POO: Peter Saville Record Cover Artwork

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Peter Saville's design for the new New Order album has been posted online. I think it's dissapointing but many others seem to like it. What is your favourite Peter Saville record cover artwork?

Mine is the cover for Joy Division's "Closer". It's from a photograph by Bernard Pierre-Wolfe that appeared in Photo Magazine of a carving from the Staglieno cemetery in Genoa. There still appears to be a debate about whether it is an actual carving or a mock photo of people covered in dust. On the 24 Hour Party People dvd, in an interview with Tony Wilson, Saville says that the cover was one of the finest bits of art direction by Ian Curtis.

http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/Joy_Division_Closer_a.jpg

Other designs by Peter Saville can be found here:
http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/ANTGALLERY1.htm

Photos from the Staglieno cemetery can be found here:
http://northstargallery.com/staglieno/

Neil FC (Neil FC), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the new one like?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

NO NO NONONONONONONONO! You can't start a Peter Saville thread with the word "Poo"!!!!! It isn't right!

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/New_Order_Technique_a.jpg

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you guys seen the new New Order sleeve? Christ almighty the angels have come down from heaven. As if the music wasn't enough!

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like it much. But i appear to be in the minority. Having said that, it's currently the background image on my desktop, and it does look mighty fine.

Neil FC (Neil FC), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

God this is harder than I thought. Leon's pretty well OTM but this is damn near impossible to narrow down. Tie between that and the "Blue Monday" vinyl and the first OMD vinyl, the latter two for their conceptual elements as tactile pieces of work.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i forgot about this one. gorgeous.

http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/Electronic_Getting_Away_With_It_a.jpg

john'n'chicago, Friday, 11 February 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes I remember him saying it was all about those 70's liquor ads.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone did suggest that the design of the new New Order cover was kinda like a periodic table. Maybe the front cover is part of a much bigger design that we won't see until the cd comes out.

Neil FC (Neil FC), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I do recall my jaw dropping when Saville said on the extras of the 24 Hour Party People DVD that Ian Curtis PICKED that Closer sleeve, himself.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It is difficult to narrow down. Maybe i should have made this thread POX instead of POO. (POX is just as bad as POO - apologies to Bimble)

Neil FC (Neil FC), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

No, really I understand. I started a Robyn Hitchcock thread once where I only wanted 5 albums, so it had to be "POV". A little awkward.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.enkiri.com/joy/records/fine_time1.jpg

KeithW (kmw), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i have second Nicole's pick, I love that cover; the statue recalls the Closer sleeve, but the bright colors really reference the bright electronic joy of songs like "Fine Time".

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

The colors are also "psychedelic" (the whole Technique "campaign" if you will, started with the "Fine Time" pills cover - I like the yellow version on the 12" even more), referencing rave and drugs culture.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

more than any other NO albu, Technique defintely sounds and looks like Joy Division on E

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, heretical as it may be, I enjoy this version:

http://www.magmabooks.com/images/large/3272.jpg

A bit more than the original.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

movement: blue cover vs. white and burgandy cover? You can't even find the white cd anymore (I prefer it).

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooooh Ned, I have to completely disagree with you there. It's nice enough, but it's not the decaying-star-digital-computer-speaking-the-cosmos-through-mathmatics perfection of the original.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, it's a bit crazy of me to say it! The original *is* absolute perfection, down to the texturing. But the way that this becomes a new piece of art in its own right -- suggesting frozen mountain ranges in the ether, or something slamming into the plane of existence from below the horizion -- to my mind is really captivating.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, horizon.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

Yes, Ned, I'm afraid that's heretical if you've owned more than one black t-shirt with the original design on it. But hey, to each his own.
I had a bit from some science magazine on my wall for years of some measurements astronomers had done of stars or something, and it looked suspiciously like the sleeve for "Unknown Pleasures".

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

what is that from?

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Ned, I'm afraid that's heretical if you've owned more than one black t-shirt with the original design on it

I've only owned one! ;-)

what is that from?

Why it's the cover of the greatest book ever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like $17 at Amazon.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only owned one! ;-)

Well you're off the hook, then. I've had two.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never bought this shirt because the design is inevitably too big. It should be smaller than the entire from of the t-shirt, with a huge "Joy Division" across the top in the wrong font.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Re: The book.

Ned, you krafty, mysterious beast you. You're scaring me. Are you joking? You've been slyly being far too quiet. I don't trust you anymore. You're playing a trick on my eyes. Is the book real?

Incidentally: Oh damn that Republic cover shite. I HATE IT.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

off the hook

Off the hook, get it? Off the Hook? HA HA HA HA!

BAD NEW ORDER JOKES COME ON LET's do 'em!

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you joking?

Fuck no.

Republic designs rule. Early Photoshop tweaking that still holds up.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll stand by the Republic cover. It's fantastic to look at and witty too.

Peter Saville is the reason I'm a designer at all. I'm not sure I could pick one thing as a favorite. Obviously Power, Corruption and Lies is probably the most successful thing he's done conceptually and it works aesthetically (which is a big part of the conceptual success), but this week, I'm loving this:

http://pry.com/codeine/va_ameanstoanend_cover_print.jpg

(that's Studio City, btw).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Just because I thought it was sooo cool as a computer geek kid when I was 12 when I first bought it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/collective/dnaimages/030606/saville_bluemonday.jpg

donut christ (donut), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I had an unknown pleasures shirt that had the design very small in the center, but I've never been able to find another one; the huge ones look ridiculous

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Although while this doesn't look jawdropping on the outside, the INSIDE kaleidoscope, with its fluidity and stark contrast from the outside makes this a very close second:

http://www.gullbuy.com/images/section25.jpg

donut christ (donut), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I wrote an art history paper that included a discussion of the "Blue Monday" cover at Berkeley and actually included a copy with my paper - my professor thought it was very cool and thanked me profusely! I left the $1.99 tag on so that he knew I wasn't trying to bribe him or something.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

..and I was strictly nominating the vinyl version of Section 25's Always Now. Sadly the CD doesn't re-represent the original in the same way.

donut christ (donut), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I find this whole Northwest flag thing hilarious:

http://www.itsnecessary.co.uk/page.asp?content=flag

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Section 25 album cover: Yes, it would make a good t-shirt.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Also I do remember it being a real nice fold-out that Section 25 record. A CD just can't do that sort of design justice.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the NO/JD sleeves, especially Low life but to buck the trend I'll go for this....

http://uk.sonymusic.co.uk/suede/music/packshots/head_music.jpg

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

yuck, that's not a very good image of that.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drd500/d536/d536799du9x.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a bit too dark, yeah.

Ha, xpost! Much better.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

how classic is this???

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00009KSEZ.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep forgetting he did that one, I always remember Flesh and Blood instead.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the gay dad stuff! and i always dug the suede covers he did- corny records, but great covers.

Antonio DePietro, Friday, 11 February 2005 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think the Suede records are corny in the least!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000025EP3.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Prolly this one:

http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/True_Faith_a.jpg

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoops! http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/True_Faith_a.jpg

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

so what IS the new one like?

jed_ (jed), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

so what if i just started buying records based on the fact that he did the cover? would i made any huge missteps that way?

Lukas (lukas), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

made any huge missteps

other than grammatically?

Lukas (lukas), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

definitely Technique. most of the other ones on here suck.

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

It keeps bothering me that donut's picture of the blue monday sleeve doesn't have those holes cut out of it. Maybe it just looks like they aren't cut out because the inner sleeve/record isn't inside?

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

God, how beautiful and mysterious were these:
http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/New_Order_Thieves_Like_Us_a.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I regret lending someone my vinyl copy of Low-life with the tracing paper overlay because i never got it back. I have the boxed tape version and the cd which both have four individual covers inside a folded piece of tracing paper. Every time i dig out the cd to play it, i change which cover is at the front. Does anyone else do this or is it just me that's sad?

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B000046QAF.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif

Neil FC (Neil FC), Saturday, 12 February 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah that Theives Like Us one is a killer. Even if you didn't know what record it was you'd still be like WTF?

Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 12 February 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I really love the one for OMD's Architecture and Morality...the shade of green, the simplistic/minimalist design, that snatch of a stairwell...

Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never bought this shirt because the design is inevitably too big. It should be smaller than the entire from of the t-shirt, with a huge "Joy Division" across the top in the wrong font.

the original ones were more sensibly sized than the ones you can pick up now. not that I was cutting about in one when I was, um, two.

coco, Saturday, 12 February 2005 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I never knew he did a Dream Academy cover!

Anyway, this'n:
http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/Joy_Division_Love_Will_Tear_Us_Apart_UK7inch_a.jpg

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 12 February 2005 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

If I can only go with one, despite my love for New Order/Joy Division, I still must go with....

http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/King_Crimson_Discipline.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 12 February 2005 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

the new order fonts are available for download!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Saturday, 12 February 2005 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a bit from some science magazine on my wall for years of some measurements astronomers had done of stars or something, and it looked suspiciously like the sleeve for "Unknown Pleasures".

"The cover art is from an illustration in Cambridge Encyclopaedia Of Astronomy, depicting pulses received from Pulsar CP1919."

Wow, the appeal of that Technique cover must be more understandable if you know the music.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 12 February 2005 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a scan from the encyclopaedia, I think the story is that Saville was presented with this image by the group, but realised by inversing the artwork to a white diagram against a black background it would make a more powerfull sleeve. Looks like he was right!

http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/cambridge.jpg

Calla, Saturday, 12 February 2005 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that Saville story does ring a bell, actually. Maybe from the extras on the DVD to 24 Hour Party People as well? But back when I had the science magazine picture on my wall, I had no way of knowing if there was any real connection or not.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 12 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer, have you been to Zakka on Grand Street? If not, you should check it out next time you are in NYC. Lots of design-y stuff.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 12 February 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the "always now" cover is a joy ... i ripped off the typography for a factory mix CD once (i'll see if i can find it). i think it's probably my all-time favourite: for the uninitiated, the sleeve folds out like a book of matches, revealing a marbled interior. it is breathtaking.

other picks ...

many, many times i have considered getting this as a tattoo:

http://home.dialix.com/~u3336/factory/images/047.gif

this is a piece of under-rated genius:

http://home.dialix.com/~u3336/factory/images/039.jpg

the original of this, ie not the one with the LTM banner, is another all-time favourite ... the colours on the poles follow some kind of decodable pattern, although i can't remember if it's the same as PCL or not.

http://home.dialix.com/~u3336/factory/images/090.gif

and this is a joy:

http://www.connollyco.com/discography/omd/dazzle.jpg

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 13 February 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

here's my rip-off, heheheh. what a fantastic CD this was, though:

http://homepage.mac.com/weesimon/oyo.jpg

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 13 February 2005 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

well done!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 13 February 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, those are some great choices, grimly! And your CD is heartwarming!

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 13 February 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Great CD design (and track selection)... whose album is it with the poles? I can't make out the type on this computer screen...

Telephonething, Sunday, 13 February 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the "From The Hip" album by Section 25. The music is great, too.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 13 February 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

can anyone post the new NO cover?

derrick (derrick), Monday, 14 February 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

check the New Order thread or worldinmotion.net

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 February 2005 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.showstudio.com/2007/04/13/kilgour_img04.jpg

Spencer Chow, Monday, 2 July 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.showstudio.com/2007/04/13/kilgour_img06.jpg

Spencer Chow, Monday, 2 July 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

That's Saville btw. He's also the art director on the shoot (Nick Knight took the pix).

Spencer Chow, Monday, 2 July 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

i just got an orig. pressing of dazzle ships, really great sleeve. this guy is tight as hell.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 2 July 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

wasn't he broke like real recently? maybe the sales of the complete factory catalogue have helped.

pisces, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

Supposedly he's never been very good with money.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

bless his heart

henry s, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

Here's a strange one. Some kind of tribute to architypal shoegazing covers:

http://www.rudde.se/Tripping%20The%20Live%20Fantastic%20-%20Highlights.jpg

everything, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

Except with shitty lettering.

everything, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

Well! The version of "Jet" therein is Macca's attempt at shoegaze, I guess.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Saville does a little something for Audi and their A5 (my favorite car at the moment in fact)

http://www.audi.co.uk/audi/uk/en2/new_cars/A5/petersaville.html

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 15 December 2007 00:36 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.showstudio.com/2007/04/13/kilgour_img06.jpg

y'see? no plaid in sight, elmo.

pc user, Saturday, 15 December 2007 01:43 (eighteen years ago)

fucking genius.

pc user, Saturday, 15 December 2007 01:44 (eighteen years ago)

that whole series is amazing

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 15 December 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

"intelligent design"

pc user, Saturday, 15 December 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

saville curates arkitip mag. comes with prints.

http://www.arkitip.com/magazines/issue49.php

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Friday, 21 November 2008 03:37 (seventeen years ago)

oooh that yellow and black "Hazard" design is downright sexy.

Chunk o' Funk (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 21 November 2008 03:51 (seventeen years ago)

The Joy Division cover is pretty good, a nice tribute that's very true to the original.

Chunk o' Funk (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 21 November 2008 03:54 (seventeen years ago)

oh shit that last post was supposed to go on the LCD Soundsystem thread. Sorry

Chunk o' Funk (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 21 November 2008 03:54 (seventeen years ago)

haha i wouldn't have even noticed if you hadn't said that

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Friday, 21 November 2008 04:03 (seventeen years ago)

LOL bimble

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 21 November 2008 04:10 (seventeen years ago)

jim, to your knowledge is this mag available locally? those prints are fiiiiine.

fela cooties (haitch), Friday, 21 November 2008 04:17 (seventeen years ago)

it might be, but i would anticipate it would be well more expensive trying to track it locally - i ordered mine from arkitip

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Friday, 21 November 2008 04:18 (seventeen years ago)

where do you all live

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 21 November 2008 04:22 (seventeen years ago)

au

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Friday, 21 November 2008 04:23 (seventeen years ago)

oh yeah, just order online

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 21 November 2008 04:24 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.btinternet.com/~comme6/saville/New_Order_Power_Corruption_and_Lies.jpg

daavid, Friday, 21 November 2008 04:29 (seventeen years ago)

i don't know if you are all brainwashed or what, but i've never understood the appeal of saville. the designs are boring. the ones that are "striking" are so because they are just bad photoshop filters. is it because you love the music inside so much?

jaxon, Friday, 21 November 2008 05:01 (seventeen years ago)

i don't think photoshop was around in 1979

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Friday, 21 November 2008 05:02 (seventeen years ago)

seriously, closer? come on, center aligned type and a photo? maybe you like the photo, but that's not graphic design. that's terrible. i'd get fired if i did that at my job. that'd take me 1 second to do.

jaxon, Friday, 21 November 2008 05:03 (seventeen years ago)

xpost, but all his new shit is just like guasian blur or posterize or some bullshit.

jaxon, Friday, 21 November 2008 05:03 (seventeen years ago)

i'm all for minimalism, but this isn't doing it for me. swiss design = wonderful, this = crap

jaxon, Friday, 21 November 2008 05:04 (seventeen years ago)

i'm not interested in getting into any taste-based arguments but the idea that the quality of something is in any way based on how long it took to do is completely and utterly ridiculous.

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Friday, 21 November 2008 05:05 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...
three months pass...

http://www.designboom.com/cms/images/andrea09/saville01.gif

jed_, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Not a record cover, but this is what Peter Saville has been up to recently: http://www.footballshirtculture.com/11/12-kits/england-11-13-umbro-home-kit-update.html

Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 12:26 (fifteen years ago)

wow!

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://creativereview.co.uk/images/uploads/2010/10/blog_dsc3646_0.jpg

jed_, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

http://creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2010/october/peter-saville-anthony-wilson-headstone

jed_, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://creativereview.co.uk/images/uploads/2010/10/blog_dsc3670_0.jpg

jed_, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

Holy heck.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

and it only took 3 years.

jed_, Friday, 22 October 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

Wouldn't be a Saville creation if it was on time. A note in the comments:

I believe that it took 3 years down to long discussions with family members. As with all things that surround Peter Saville he wanted it to be 'just so'

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

Amazing.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 22 October 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

wow

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

JD NO & OMD sleeves for all the obvious reasons. But just as his minimalist approach captured the aesthetic of those bands, he pretty much summed up the Happy Mondays by going in the opposite direction:

http://www.leahfaust.com/fausthaus_blog/peter_saville.jpg

That tombstone is totally awesome & beautiful btw

lol @ dog w/ sunglasses (Pillbox), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

But Pillbox, he didn't do the Happy Mondays sleeves! That was Central Station Design IIRC.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)

dude wtf my world is shattered

lol @ dog w/ sunglasses (Pillbox), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

I missed the Dream Academy thing upthread. Had NO IDEA and it's one of my favorite covers ever.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

http://homepage2.nifty.com/truefaith/tosq/petersaville/largeimages/1985-00-byn6.jpg

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

It's amazing how perfect and even sublime type can be.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

Saville has done the jacket design for Brian Cox's new pop-physics book:
http://coffee-cake-kern.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/20110717-072604.jpg

Spencer Chow, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

US readers will of course get this version designed by, er, the internet?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31laSAnHFQL._SS500_.jpg

Spencer Chow, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

nice lens flare on the cat.

jed_, Monday, 7 November 2011 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

seven years pass...

https://i.imgur.com/egIzFwG.png

, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:36 (seven years ago)

four months pass...

Has anyone noted the source (besides Giorgio de Chirico) for the numbers in the "Thieves Like Us" single:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/arts/design/jews-money-myth-antisemitism-exhibition-london.html

I would not have expected it to be "The New and Fashionable Game of the Jew":

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/20/arts/20JEWS-MONEY-MYTH-5/20JEWS-MONEY-MYTH-5-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp

with hidden noise, Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:02 (six years ago)

gosh, good spot

kolarov spring (NickB), Thursday, 21 March 2019 07:21 (six years ago)

whoa

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 21 March 2019 08:34 (six years ago)

Wow, exactly the same positioning of the numbers.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:13 (six years ago)

The 9 and the 3 have been swapped on the sleeve, not entirely sure why as it's obvious where it comes from.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 21 March 2019 11:27 (six years ago)

googling the game, the numbers appear in different positions in different versions, so maybe saville was just copying from a different edition of the game? there is a difference in the font too

kolarov spring (NickB), Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:45 (six years ago)

The numbers on the cover of Thieves Likes Us were taken from a board-game on a painted table in Blair Castle. Peter Saville found the picture from a magazine called Country Life.
From this wonderfully old school website: http://www.worldinmotion.net/neworder/discography/singles/1984/thieveslikeus.htm

dorsalstop, Thursday, 21 March 2019 20:16 (six years ago)

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/21926/new-and-fashionable-game-jew

Cloth-backed, hand-colored folding engraving with slip cover. Shows a publication date of May 27th, 1807. Board is 18.5 x 16", cover is 7 x 5".

Game is played with two six-sided dice, but while I have pictures of the case and board, I can find no explantion of game play other than this quote from "Deconstructing Sondheim", a March 8, 1993 New Yorker article by Stephen Schiff:

When you enter his five-story town house in midtown Manhattan, the first thing you notice, besides an enormous black poodle named Max, is his antique-game collection: on the walls, in glass museum cases, on various low tables. Most of the items look faintly sinister: here is something called Schimmel, or Ball and Hammer and here an inscrutable British concoction, Squails, and, behind the sofa, his earliest acquisition—the ghastly New and Fashionable Game of the Jew, a dice game devised in 1811 that, according to Sondheim, "taught kids to be anti-Semitic. But all the games you see here are very nice to look at and real boring," he adds. "This thing about games—I'm not really fascinated with games."

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Looks to be a variation of Gluckshaus. Roll both dice and pay the amount rolled onto the space of the same value. If there is something already on the space, collect it instead. Rolling a 7 always pays to the Jew space. Rolling a 12 collects all the counters on the board.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 March 2019 20:29 (six years ago)

First published by the London printer and games specialist John Wallis Snr of 13 Warwick Square, on June 16, 1807, the aim of this simple dice and board game was to collect as many counters as possible to emulate the stereotypical Jewish banker pictured in the centre of the board with his money bags.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 March 2019 20:34 (six years ago)


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