jacques lu cont: can do no wrong....defend/refute

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there are three kinds of touching...
good kinds...bad kinds.... and JlC kinds... he touches me where i pee.... and i think i like...his mixes make me hate the originals for what they were...and love them for what they're not

irrigation can save your people, Saturday, 12 February 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Refute: Zoot Woman.

But, other than that, remarkably consistent.

Jacob (Jacob), Saturday, 12 February 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

i like quite a few Zoot Woman tracks. if there was anything that was going to show him up it would be remixing Starsailor but he even pulled that off brilliantly.

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Saturday, 12 February 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was about to say, I really liked some of the ZW tracks. Can't really say I enjoyed his dj sets. :-(

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Saturday, 12 February 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

What Stevem said - to make stodgy old Starsailor sound breezily contemporary is an achievement even JLC must have been chuffed with.

At this stage - yep, JLC can do no wrong. And if Zoot Woman can stop sounding too much like the Buggles then he'll be unassailable.

darren (darren), Saturday, 12 February 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

now what if Jacques could get his hands on some Momus demos ....

darren (darren), Saturday, 12 February 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

at the moment, it kind of feels like he can do no wrong, yes

coco, Saturday, 12 February 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

hmm.. they all sound very alike to me... and i don't see the problem with zoot woman..

bolloxx, Saturday, 12 February 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

they do all have a signature sound, but it works every time...I mean, he made fuckin Bela Lugosi herself (Madonna) sound good!

kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Saturday, 12 February 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

Zoot Woman are great!

Jacques is a hard working professional.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 12 February 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

He's done some great remixes but... Mr. Brightside's Killers???? I found it awful.

El Golfo, Sunday, 13 February 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

What Starsailor track did he do?!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 13 February 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

So Thin White Duke = JLC ? Had no idea.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 13 February 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)

He made Four To The Floor which became a great hit over France last Xmas.

El Golfo, Sunday, 13 February 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

Jacques is quite a talent, I agree. Some of his best remixes are:

Gwen Stefani - What You Waiting For

The remix of this is a total change in tone from the original. Where Gwen's version was boppy, loud and a bit obnoxious, this mix gives the song a sort of sad, 80's nostalgic quality. I have no idea why. His dub is fantastic too.

Madonna - Hollywood

The remix shits all over the original in every way. No wonder Madonna used it for that infamous lesbian-ish MTV awards show performance.

No Doubt - It's My Life

Not really something to dance to, but sort of relaxed and peaceful in a way, as opposed to No Doubt's screechy original.

Felix Da Housecat - Silver Screen Shower Scene

A total overhaul that sounds nothing like the original. An unexpected surprise.

Goldfrapp - Twist

Really really weird stuff. But good. And sorta creepy too. Love the way at the end of it how everything comes too a noisy clangy clashy stop with weird breathing noises. Sounds like a machine breaking down!

Britney Spears - Breathe On Me

Took a while to grow on me but it has some great moments.

Can anyone recommended some other great mixes by Jacques?

InsertNameHere (InsertNameHere), Sunday, 13 February 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

fischerspooner - just let go

but i think i blew it and supersaturated myself with JLC this weekend. but what a weekend!

irrigation can save your people, Sunday, 13 February 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Fischerspooner seconded!

Seb (Seb), Sunday, 13 February 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

whirlpool productions.

disco to disco

a remix so good its on his album as a LRD track.

danny boy (danny boy), Sunday, 13 February 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

wasn't he the first one to start the whole 80's synth revival thing back in '99? I remember the same people who are now into all things synthesized laughing at "Hey you, what's thats sound?" and his red acid-washed jeans. No one seemed to take his music seriously, but I'm glad to see that's changed.

He also needs ever so much to release another LRD album....like NOW.

kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Sunday, 13 February 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

The older LRD remixes are more my cup of tea, like the LHOOQ, Mono & Beck ones. His productions for the Two Culture Clash cd were amasing and i wouldn't complain if he'd went on in that direction, rather than produce handbag house like Juliet - Avalon

bolloxx, Sunday, 13 February 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

the best thing about Disco to Disco is that is is the link between JACQUES and JUSTUS

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

JLC = the bizness. There are few people working today whose Kool-Aid I guzzle with more enthusiasm (although oddly enough I can't get into the Gwen Stefani one). At this point I listen to his remix of Danger! High Voltage more than the original - something about that rolling warlike drum crossed with that plinky synth works really well on me, and then all the whooshing synths start. Also, nobody's brought up his remix of Payback Time by the Dysfunctional Psychedelic Waltons, which is actually good enough to overcome their monstrously shitty band name.

Also: He remixed Mr. Brightside!?!!?! Good or bad, I fucking HAVE to find that. Where'd you hear it?

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Sunday, 13 February 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

I hate the Killers and hence can't get into the remix.

Jacques should remix the Ratpure.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

I saw him DJ last night, he played that "Danger! High Voltage" remix, AND the Stefani remix, AND "From Disco To Disco"! I am fine with admitting that I (and everyone else in the place) went mental every time, it was populist crowd manipulation of the best possible kind.

haitch (haitch), Sunday, 13 February 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

We had a house party last night, a good 50-60 people stuffed into this living room, played the JLQ-Gwen remix and people loved it; the sudden entrance of the drums a minute or two in was the best. There was lots of clapping. So much fun.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 13 February 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

yeah it was odd when I saw him, he played every single remix he's ever done I think, and many of his own tracks. that stefani remix is a floorfiller, for sure, always works.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

the bass in that track is so massive. i didn't like it at first because of the vocals/lyrics, but i am now completely won over.

it's tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

He is going to be so so big by the end of this year.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

"jacques your body"!

it's tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern_california/10892795.htm?1c

Grammy award winner!!!

Best Remixed Recording, Non-Classical: Jacques Lu Cont, "It's My Life (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix)."

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

what about his classical remixes?!?! dude was robbed!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 14 February 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

like many JLC/TWD remixes, 'mr. brightside's' only flaw is its inclusion of the original vocals. the first minute-thirty makes me want to finally figure out how to carry a pregnancy to term as a male. because harboring his living seed inside of me is the only thing that could be better. [ow, i feel gross.]

irrigation can save your people, Monday, 14 February 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

the Felix remix is still the greatest piece of music ever

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Monday, 14 February 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Why has no one mentioned the CeCile song yet? Because it's THE BEST THING EVER.

That said, I'm not sure how much I like some of the older LRD stuff. I'll have to go listen to it again.

Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

i still like 'Hey You What's That Sound' tho i think he's come on in leaps and bounds since then. 'Sometimes' is still nice.

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

I know nothing about Jacques Lu Cont except for the Na Na Na Na Na song that Fluxblog had up last year sometime, which is AMAAAAAAZING.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Ahem:

CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, gotta love that one. The Faint spend their entire career whiffing at one pitch only to watch JLC knock it out of the park on his only swing.

This is, of course, EXACTLY why I want to hear the Mr. Brightside remix.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 14 February 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

i love that faint remix!! i remember listening to it on headphones in my kitchen late at night, kinda wasted, doing dishes, i played it about 3 times in a row.

but i gotta say i still find the gwen stefani remix a little flat & boring!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Cassisus 1999 remix is good.

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Monday, 14 February 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

There is a JLC remix album coming out later this year on Astralwerks.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

And wow, that Starsailor remix is awesome.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

i love how he takes these solipsistic pop-star-on-a-crucifix songs and tears the shit out of them. goth! the starsailor remix is ace fer shure.

it's tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

"There is a JLC remix album coming out later this year on Astralwerks."

A collection of his remixes or all new? Either way, I kiss you, this is beautiful news.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm guessing it is older remixes, no word on the tracklisting yet.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

that Starsailor remix is the greatest pig's ear -> silk purse transformation EVER. I mean, have you all heard the original?? jesus it's bad!

haitch (haitch), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

Yeah there´s something so plodding and overblown about the original, it´s like a train crash in slow motion. JLC´s version is so sleek!

I think you begin to understand Ronan´s point about the importance of remixes lately when you contemplate all these remix collections and the breathless excitement they generate - remixes have always been the bread and butter of dance music but it seems like now more than ever the key players´ reputations are being forged through their remixes.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

I think that JLC remix album is promo'd - there's a clear tracklist theme to the ones I've acquired over the last couple days (inspired by this thread). Last one I listened to was the Grammy winner before I even knew it had won it.

Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

The intro is so beautiful, like Jacques standing up for DJ Sammy or something.

Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Tim otm, I mean Jacques or Tiefschwarz or Ewan Pearson before them have hardly released a single thing that isn't a remix in their recent spells of popularity.

There's something about it that suggests a healthiness and frenetic side to the scene at the moment, like could artists really be prolific enough if they were releasing all individual singles and not popping up as remixers everywhere? It really allows for an individual sound to emerge, it's a weird phenomenon of the electro-house explosion, though perhaps there are parallels with other points in history or genres, dancehall even?

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

I am v.into the JLC remix of Juliet's 'Avalon' at the moment (see gmail thread) but perhaps it is terrible, I don't know!

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

Alba's work on the gmail thread has done a sterling job for the 'JLC can do no wrong' argument. I have been convinced.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure about the Thin White Duke remix of Fischerspooner's 'Just Let Go', though.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

What I like about JLC is you could get away with playing all his remixes in a row at a house party or something and most people would think you were playing a really great set, mixing popular and cool dance stuff effortlessly. Jacques does it all for you.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

i rather like that Gwen remix and i fuckin hate that track so that's really saying something.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

well i mean i the chorus of that song is so horrible i still have to switch it off, remix or no remix. the verses remind me of "somewhere in my heart" by aztec camera, bizarrely enough.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

No - you're right!

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

barely a chorus there to hate

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

Go here for the video of LRD's "Sometimes", which is still one of the most wonderful music videos I've ever seen:

http://www.thedirectorsbureau.com/

Oh, and Jacques is ace, by the way!

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh, yeah, that site is a little goofy to navigate. It's under Mike Mills. Ignore all the "security" crap, it's strictly a gag.

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

Based on all the remixes I've downloaded and heard today, ridiculously classic. And yes that Faint remix is a killer (and I love me the Faint too, so hey).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

I think the gwen remix is still my favorite, although its the only one i've actually danced to in a party situation so i might be biased. I paid 11 bucks for the vinyl single!

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

that video is fantastic. i can't believe i haven't seen it before

it's strange to think that darkdancer still fits in with the sort of music around now, even though it was released around 10 years ago. I'd never thought that it would be a CD that still gets really great reaction when I dj.

It wasn't that much of a success around the time of the release was it?

jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Refute - his remix of The Music that's doing the rounds on the Gmail exchange thread. Its good to know that some music is so terrible even JLC can't save it - it sounds like Sting. Especially the drum bit at the end.

Everything else = amazing. Including the Killers mix.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

I am still in awe of the brilliance of the Starsailor mix. The Gwen Mix is probably #2.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

I'm not convinced by the Killers mix, I think it's still too much of a sow's ear for me. no one can deny JLC's er ambition in taking this shit on though.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

He's one of the producers of the new New Order album AND he's going to be remixing them as well.

Seez, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

was he Paper Faces?

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

The recent ones are not as good as the original wave of them, for me, not to be all things were better way back in erm...2002.

my top 10 jacques remixes, I hope I don't forget any!

1. silver screen shower scene
2. hollywood
3. the faint
4. zoot woman-gem (this one is AMAZING in a club, his most banging record ever I reckon)
5. zoot woman-grey day
6. zoot woman-living in a magazine
7. starsailor
8. gwen stefani
9. lrd-sometimes (lrd remix)
10. cassius-my feeling for you (lrd remix)

did I forget any? I think that's pretty comprehensive, a really mixed bag of styles too!


x-post yeah he's Paper Faces too!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

the paper faces stuff tends to be kind of warm tech house. he's remixed like 3 scissor sisters tracks, the "Laura" one is kind of cool, as is the "Comfortably Numb" one.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Who could forget his triumphant remix of Placebo's 'Pure Morning'???

(actually, I could. Again with the too much sow's ear thing)

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

wait ppl don't like the remix of The Music? I thought shit was killer.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

wasn't his remix of bis' "eurodisco" pretty swish?

etc, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

remix for LHOOQ's Losing Hand is a killer, too

bolloxx, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

'Losing Hand'!

Mixes for Placebo and Mekon a bit phoned in, but that's all I got so far.

Paper Faces is collaborative, at least according to an mp3 I got - Stuart + 1 Zoot Woman.

Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

why all the love for that ce'cile track?
it was the worst thing she's ever featured on - and if you can make her sound dull, you really *are* doing something wrong.
only the kid 606 and ward 21 track on that whole "wall of sound go missionary: trendy london label brings poor, dumb jamaicans, into the 21st century" comp actually worked.

stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

can you show us the scientific research on that one

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

Dave Wall of Sound are hardly trendy! I haven't even heard the comp but I suspect you're characterising it unfairly. And I agreed with you on the whole real dancehall/fake dancehall thing.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

it's not as though the artists were forced to work in the Wall of Sound sweatshop for a black crust of bread. presumably they were into the idea.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

The love here is seriously tempting me to do a TS/POX: Cornelius as a remixer vs every other remixer.

Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

no it's not a trendy label, but they are too cool for school as people and have the attitudes to match.
the vast majority of people did that comp for easy money - and so would i for god's sake.
dancehall artists work every rhythm going, plenty of them ones that they're not feeling too much, so why should that project be any different?
i don't think that x artist having featured necessarily means that they were into it or is an implicit statment of approval, just that it was there to do.
The whole thing was totally clueless - Gee Jam studios is considered a joke in JA and when the likes of Sizzla and Bounty Killer were approached to be, they laughed the idea out of town.
And, Ronan, I don't need to show empirical scientific data to say whether or not a track works or not - I just know.
And this isn't a real/fake dancehallissue, either. Gentleman, a white German, has made on of my fave reggae record this year, voiced on a rhythm made in Cologne (Superior on Pow Pow Productions' Superior Rhythm), Kardinal Offishal, a Canadian, did a great verion of Black Chiney's Kopa rhythm and the mash-up of Spragga Benz over the FWD rhythm is great - it's more an issue of music being crap or not.

stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

you're the one who said "wall of sound go missionary: trendy london label brings poor, dumb jamaicans, into the 21st century" comp actually worked.

didn't seem to be simply an issue of whether you liked the music or not way back 10 minutes ago.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

also wall of sound as "trendy label" is kind of a stretch

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

they are london media trendies, the lot of them, and i don't take that back.
and it is an issue of "understanding" music, knowing what to do with it and not fucking it up, this making a good and exciting vocalist totally snoozesome!
so, yes, lu cont can do some wrong - especially getting involved with this ill-advised project (which absolutely tanked, btw).
doesn't mean he's not perfectly good when he works within the limited parameters of what he can do.
the kid 606 on worked because he at least has some affinity with the music he was drawing from.
this is totally about music being good or not, but there's always more to this than just the music itself.

stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

This is a bit like watching two Rottweilers circling one another and wondering which one is going to tear in first.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

that's nonsense. i'm totally calm and happy in the knowledge that i'm right.

stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

and even if i wasn't (which i am) it's hardly anything to fall out about.

stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

I know, I was just being flippant.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

ffs Matt.

Wall of Sound is surely an ailing untrendy label by now, I think the project was quite light-hearted and never really claiming to be hardcore dancehall, it is called "Two Culture Clash" and to be honest I think the result is just a quirky and slightly odd mash up of some fairly incongruous sounds.

I don't rate the record very highly, alot of it was just boring for me. But I did enjoy one of the Jacques tracks and I thought the Jon Carter one was ok too, to be honest. The Jacques one with the male vocalist fits the quirkiness I mentioned above, it sounded like one of his own productions really.

I don't see the record as greatly cynical or sinister though, most of it sounds like a fairly off the cuff partyish project. I didn't see it reviewed as "real dancehall" either but if it was I can understand how that'd be annoying.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

I mean, you say the dancehall artists did it for the cash and cos it was there, I think the same is probably true of most of the Wall of Sound artists.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

I liked the song ok, its not the best thing i've heard ce'cile do by any stretch but i thought it was relatively interesting.

Much more fascinating, however, is this: baby got book

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

well, not so off-the-cuff when you consider that they thought it was so important that they should make a film about it, launched it at the jamaican consulate in london and said things like this:

"The ideals and vision of this project is to assimilate leading artists from both genres into a face-to-face environment and create an album that brings experimentalism and accessibility, the world famous and the underground together, ‘live’ in Jamaica. This is a record that has to be made, for musical history’s sake."

now "assimilate" has a pretty icky ring to it in this case. anyway, we're way off-topic here and for the record, i have enjoyed a few things lu cont has done, just not this stuff.

stelfox, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

So I went to go see Gabriel & Dresden last night and they played at least 4 JLC tracks: the Juliet remix, the dub version of "Bleed From Within", "Living In A Magazine", and the Mr. Brightside remix.

To say that the Mr. Brightside remix annihilated everyone there would be a gross understatement. I was absolutely not the only person jumping and singing like a jackass. I was actually in line to go to the bathroom but BOLTED to the dancefloor when I heard that synth intro.

I am very much a fan of that mix now.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

Arthur last night played the Gwen Stefani remix at Akbar and the crowd went wild, as they say. Mr. LeCont is one cool dude.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

i heard he shits solid gold remixes and Mylo scours the sewer for them.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Am I weird that I like the original Mr. Brightside more than the remix? Normally I prefer dance remixes to original indie rock blahs but in this case the only thing JLC seems to tell me is "i could have done so much more"

djdee (djdee2005), Monday, 7 March 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

I can actually buy that; I hate the Killers with a passion, but they really knocked it out of the park with that one. I just kinda wish there were, y'know, more of it. Hence my lurve for the JLC mix, which isn't necessarily better to dance to but is certainly Bigger and Longer.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 7 March 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

that Juliete track is bloody fantastic

coco, Monday, 7 March 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

there are two lucont brightside mixes, right? a lucont dub and a thin white duke mix or something?

jermaine (jnoble), Monday, 7 March 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

There is a dub, a vocal edit, and a full length vocal mix

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

oh which version is which? I might have the vocal edit.

djdee (djdee2005), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

The dub version doesn't begin with the keyboard riff

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

the only jlc remixes I haven't really been taken with are the aloud and starsailor ones. atm i'd probably rank the killers' one among his top 5.

Mil (Mil), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

The Juliet track actually is amazing. I had a weird gut feeling leaving the house to go and DJ on Thursday, that it might be worth bringing, so burned it onto CD before I left. Sure enough I played it and it worked really well.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

I said it was fantastic to you on AIM and you were all like 'meh'.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

I've had a JLC marathon over the past few weeks. My conclusion is that there are still a few remixers/remixes I'll take over him and moreover, I don't find his tracks (mainly the mixes) very home listening-friendly, unlike, say, Rex or Ewan or Shep (and by this, I also mean that I wasn't inspired to dance around my living room or strut down the street). Most of the LRD stuff also left me cold, either through ageing issues or either being cheesy or ponderous (and I've tried over the years to like anything LRD related besides 'Hey You'). The ponderous issue today also applies somewhat to the Paper Faces mixes.

So, my POV would be:

1. 'It's My Life'
2. 'Avalon'
3. 'What You Waiting For?'
4. 'Hey You (What's That Sound?)'
5. 'Four To The Floor'

I'm interested in hearing the Killers mix, and some of the others have their moments. I'd like to hear him in a 4-min pop song environment (outside Zoot Woman anyway). Some good rights and some dull wrongs, but I'm always open to change.

BARMS, Monday, 14 March 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

I like the "It's My Life" mix but it strikes me as perhaps the most straightforwardly, er, dancey of JLC's recent mixes, the song pretty much sacrificed to the spacey electro-prog drift.

I've come to the conclusion that maybe "Four To The Floor" is his most all-round, um, successful mix, which is odd because at the time of the chart success of the other similar electro remix over here I tried to convince myself I was unfazed by it. Listening back to it now (partially helped by hearing the crappy original), it just seems like such an amazing balance of groove and tears and blustering and just a huge sense of cosmic loneliness.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 14 March 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

I like the "It's My Life" mix but it strikes me as perhaps the most straightforwardly, er, dancey of JLC's recent mixes, the song pretty much sacrificed to the spacey electro-prog drift.

I feel that way about the 'Breathe On Me' mix - definitely prefer the original there (possibly lack of an extended outro aside). Also, I like my prog sweetened to taste.

BARMS, Monday, 14 March 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

I haven't heard the "Breathe On Me" mix (I've heard James Holden's mix of it though - I could imagine them being a bit similar actually!). Hard to top the original i'd reckon.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 14 March 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

JCL's is a lot more disco than Holden's.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

I know I was meh about the Juliet tune before. I meant to include that or imply it in my post above!

I think all the aliases have very very strong moments of success, Paper Faces mix of "Living In A Magazine", and "Gem" are really amazing.

The Felix mix is far and away my favourite of all the remixes and I think the best, but his style has changed since then and maybe I'm inclined to agree with Tim as regards recent stuff/Starsailor.

It is a very persistent track, the Starsailor one, doesn't seem to lose its lustre.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

someone needs to put all of his mixes in a folder and YSI it.


I've only heard "Just Let Go," "Breathe On Me," "Mr. Brightside" and that Bloc Party remix. The first two are brill.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

I've also heard that Starsailor mix. Good stuff.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Blow: A Jacques Lu Cont Mix

JoB (JoB), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

BLOC PARTY REMIX!!?!?

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Did he do a dub of the Starsailor one?

Mil (Mil), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

todd the godd

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

I actually really like the "Mr Brightside" remix! I haven't heard the original, mind. It could be the original that's secretly doing it for me underneath all the synth cumulus clouds. But it's so pretty! And the chorus so aching! Mind you he's pretty good generally at recontextualising vocals so that they're suggestive of a quite different original song.

Hey did anyone download that "In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up" mix DJ Xiu put up? The second half was all like this!

I'm gonna write something about Lu Cont I think.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

i bet Jacques really loves The Killers, it wasn't just for the money

Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

That Stylus file JoB links - why is it so large? Is it a mix (as in continuous) or a track remix?

BARMS, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

It's a 34 minute mix. Did you not see the tracklist?

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

No, I was on the way to dinner.

BARMS, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

We should have a Lu Cont sweepstake and take guesses at what he is going to remix next.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps it will be THE BRAVERY.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

1. Starsailor - Four To The Floor
2. Gwen - What You Waiting For
3. Killers - Mr Brightside
4. The Faint - Conductor
5. Electric Six (if only for the "fire in the disco" and then HUGE bit).

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna say the Bravery or Doves.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

jacques lu cont shd rmx my version of "since yesterday".

I think the only thing I like I've heard of jlc's so far is his "what you waiting for?" rmx, and then I like tim f's story abt felix da starting off his set with the interminable stefani tick tocks even more.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Cozen - I put his Fischerspooner and Juliet mixes on that CDR I gave you.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

Sorry - I missed the 'I like'.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

HOW COULD YOU NOT LIKE THE JULIET?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

I am listening to it now, CAPS man.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Coldplay, "Talk (Jacques Lu Cont Is Going To Turn This Rubbish Song Back Into Kraftwerk mix)"

'haitch' (haitch), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

cozen can i hear your 'since yesterday'??

Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

alba: good god I take back what I said and kneel down in catatonic supplication before my new god, mr. jacques. le. cont.

stevem: only if jlc rmxs it.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

What the hell is Amy Phillips talking about in her review of the "Mr Brightside" remix? DEFINITELY better than the original, there's no question in my mind. Also I'm pretty sure it has come out on vinyl and is thus not an "iTunes exclusive".

i am nervous (cochere), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

1. Silver Screen Shower Scene
2. Avalon
3. What You Waiting For
4. Hey You What's That Sound
5. Its My Life

For me, anyway. The Killers and Britney ones are good but the Starsailor mix is ruined for me by the vocals.

The Bloc Party remix is Paul Epworth, isn't it?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Matt, re: 2 -5: get out of my head ;-).

BARMS, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't including original tracks by LRD!

But if I was, I'd have Jacques Your Body/Sometimes in a top 10.

Also still want to know what the track he opened with in Dublin was, it had a huge Vitalicesque snare drum and a riff that was like something from an Abba song (and may have been) looping over and over, sounded very decadent.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

No, Amy Phillips is right. The worst part is the "touching his chest" line, which in the original introduces a heavier feel and a darker harmonic tone, but which JLC doesn't do anything with and thus it just feels sorta weightless.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I can understand why someone might like the remix, anyway, but really, how does it improve the original?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

that "ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja-ja" bit off the Fabric mix is one of my favourite things he's done haha

Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc (and amy) otm, it's really not much better than the original in my mind, although it offers hints of what might have been...

deej., Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I prefer the Lindbergh Palace remix actually...

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

What is this I hear about a paper faces remix to "Ready 2 Wear" by Felix??? The fact that this track exists and I havent heard it yet is killing me on the inside. Someone here has to be on slsk so I can dl this gem.

modernaire, Friday, 18 March 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

OMG if they find it GMAIL to me immediately! ddrake at geemail dot com

deej., Friday, 18 March 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

but of course

modernaire, Friday, 18 March 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, there's a benny banassi remix to Ready 2 Wear floating around too

modernaire, Friday, 18 March 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

it's sort of disappointing actually! don't have an mp3 but heard the vinyl a few times.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

What is this I hear about a paper faces remix to "Ready 2 Wear" by Felix??? The fact that this track exists and I havent heard it yet is killing me on the inside. Someone here has to be on slsk so I can dl this gem.
-- modernaire (rubblerubbl...), March 18th, 2005.

Shouldn't exactly be difficult to find. It's on the b side of the 12 inch.

coco, Friday, 18 March 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
Juliet's Avalon (with the JLC remix on the flip) gets a proper release this week. £2.99 in all good chain stores...

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

mr. finney weighs in with a close reading of mr. price's "mr. brightside" remix. ace.

http://getphysical.blogspot.com/

martin turenne, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Both Jacques and Tim have this knack of making the source material in this case much better than it is. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
What has he been up to lately? Anyone know?

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 8 May 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

I love the Paper Faces mixes of "Filthy Gorgeous" and "Ready 2 Wear" if it helps at all, but they're a bit different to his JLC/TWD approach.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 8 May 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

The Paper Faces mix of "Mary" is nice too.

I am going to see Jacques on Friday, hooray!

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 8 May 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Did Missy Elliott sample Les Rythmes Digitales on her new single and if not, where does that "Music makes you lose control" sample come from originally?

JoB (JoB), Sunday, 8 May 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

What has he been up to lately? Anyone know?

He did a lot of work on the new album by Juliet called Random Order.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 8 May 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

where does that "Music makes you lose control" sample come from originally?

i'm not sure but it also features on the 1990 remixed version of 'Sucker DJ' by Dimples D if not the original of that so my guess is that it comes from a late 70s funk/disco/early rap band.

$V£N! (blueski), Sunday, 8 May 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Apparently there is a song called "Music Makes You Lose Control" by Twin Amp on vol. 8 of the 2 Many DJ's mix CD series. Could anyone verify wether this is indeed it?

JoB (JoB), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

i thought I read somewhere that new order were going to have him remix stuff from the new album because they liked his mix of the gwen stefani song so much. what happened with that?

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

x-post, I've found out that it is not. Kyle, you are aware of SP's production jobs on the NO album? One of them ("Jetstream") is the new single, remixed by Tom Neville and Richard X.

JoB (JoB), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

new order were going to have him remix stuff from the new album because they liked his mix of the gwen stefani song so much

a little ironing there given how the Gwen remix reminded some people a little of Electronic's 'Getting Away With It' (NB: reminding of does not necess. mean they sound alike, and indeed they don't)

$V£N! (blueski), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

haha, I didn't realize until JUST NOW that Stuart Price and Jacques Lu Cont were the same person!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

there's also a jlc remix of jetstream too, right?

jermaine (jnoble), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
yeah, and I listened to it a LOT for a week. tasty.

HYPNOTIC ROBOTIC HYPNOTIC ROBOTIC ROCKYOBODY

W i l l (common_person), Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

his remixes (remix, dub, edit) of missy's "lose control" have leaked . . .

locus solus, Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

YSI!!!

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

check the YSI/gmail request thread!

W i l l (common_person), Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

His "Lose Control" remix totally apes his remix of the Faint! Not that it is a bad thing....

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Ahem:

CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

There's also a new Juliet remix...

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know if there will ever be another Les Rythmes Digitales akbum?.

That One Guy (That One Guy), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

His "Mr Brightside" remix is my single favorite moment this year.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 25 June 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

"Jacques Your Body" is getting a rerelease with new mixes due to the Citroën ad, but no sign of a new LRD record and I wouldn't bet on any new stuff - he hasn't used the moniker in five years, not even for remixes.

BTW: spoof of the dancing robot ad

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 26 June 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

That Missy remix is a thing of joy and beauty. Manages the rare feat of improving on a near perfect work.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 26 June 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
does anybody know where to get hold of his remix of missy elliotts lose control, heard it on zane lowe last night and it was absolutely mind-blowing!

Andy Lambert, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

that's what this thread is for This is the NEW (third) thread for requesting and offering songs via YSI/Gmail/Etc.

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

uh, this is the 80s revival guy from 'bout 1998, yeah? even then i think i said 'daft punk knock-off'. and somehow his lp is now knocking around the front racks at fopp. wtf?

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

you were a real prodigy!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

"WHAT YEAR IS THIS????? WHO IS PRESIDENT????? WHY IS JACQUES LU CONT POPULAR NOW? REMIXES YOU SAY??? 300 OF THEM YOU SAY???? BECOMING SUPERSTAR DJ YOU SAY????"

Enrique, naked in an unfamiliar future where corporations run the world (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

people still do remixes? quaint.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

his prolificness/quantity-quality ratio is impressive but the only case of me preferring his remix to the original lately has been 'Mr Brightside' - tho I haven't heard the original mix of Juliet's 'Avalon' I don't think (I watched the video on a website but the music was identical to the JLC mix so I assume they used that mix for airplay generally?).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

his remix of missy is in the top 5 worst things i've heard this year.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

haha! I think it's probably quite good, if it's the track I think it is, but I've only heard it out.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

give me 5 minutes and i'll yousendit.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

I have it downloading already but I'm sure others want to hear it

the vocal version is fucking awful, on first listen. the dub must be the one erol and co are playing.

(2 mins later, after toast)the vocal version is actually absolutely dire, it's still playing here, the missy vocal just sounds so so wrong. so I'll see what the dub is like in a few minutes.


(i typed this bit earlier) on a more general level jacques dj sets are really a travesty by now, the guy hasn't bought or even listened to a new record since making the fabric mix.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

it's the vocal mix. the first minute is ok but when the vocal comes in he just slaughters it. anyway, here it is - http://s34.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1F4R0Y069EKKO1E9J1VGNPO53X

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

wasn't he the first one to start the whole 80's synth revival thing back in '99? I remember the same people who are now into all things synthesized laughing at "Hey you, what's thats sound?" and his red acid-washed jeans. No one seemed to take his music seriously, but I'm glad to see that's changed.

-- kevin says relax (surl... ), February 13th, 2005.

er right, so some hipsters now like it so what *was* yawnsome and decadent is now a-ok. his horrible jeans are still horribly 80s.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

oh fuck off, you didn't even know the guy was still producing until 5 minutes ago and now we're supposed to accept that you have any idea about what electronic revivals are yawnsome and decadent and what aren't.

honestly "decadent"! jacques lu cont and his cronies are making the streets of Great Britain a far more dangerous place. Why just last week I saw a gang of tracksuited youths making fun of war veterans while playing Avenue D.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

calm down, ro, the reasoni paid no mind to him till 5 mins ago is because i thought lrd was boring when i first heard it a very long time ago. it felt decadent *then*, fuck knows how it sounds now. if i find something yawnsome it's entirely a matter for me, i need no credentials there. so 'we' don't have to 'accept' anything, but then 'i' don't need to 'accept' that an electro revival (4th? 5th) is what the world needs either.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

The day ILM gets intolerant of arguments made in total ignorance is the day it dies.

I have been loving the JLC mixes I've heard, including the Missy one, it's not as if the vocal line on "Lose Control" was particularly stunning anyway.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

I would just like a new LRD single I think. He really loved being/acting a pop star at one point.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh I am calm, I didn't mean fuck off in a furious way, you are indie to the core though nr_q.

I like the dub alot better than the vocal version, the music is very similar to some of the other mixes but it's still good.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

LRD is dance for indie kids!!!! How do you think I heard of it in the first place!?!

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

I meant the "decadent" stuff etc.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

oh, i'm just trolling, but mainly cos upthread ppl though LRD held out some hope for a kind of re-entry into the mainstream of proper dance, i think; whereas i kind of lost interest way back when *because* of cassius/LRD ( i wasn't very proper dance, but i wasn't indie by then ). but i said 'decadent' because of all the 80s stuff.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I would like a new Cassius single as well.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/release/429408

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Jesus, I LOVE this "Don't U Want" me single, what he does with the "I Like To Move It" synth line... the name "Philippe 'Zdar'" rang a bell but I didn't know it was a half of Cassius.

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

oohh, anyone got a rip they can ysi?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

"Don't U Want" = http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2S2ULNPS3P0C61BFZNI2UF17SL

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

don't i want to THANK YOU!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

is the lose control remix ever coming out on vinyl?

danny boy, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

surely it'll be in a HMV near you (and me) very soon.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

His lose control mix is great. What the fuck?

deej.., Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

Diego, good taste.

Negativa, True Believer (Sheryl Crow in a Britney costume) (Barima), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

who the fuck am I, Al Usher now????

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

; )

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

i didn't know that about philippe 'zdar either. he did some really nice remixes of the last (?) telepopmusik single. they're poppy melancholy downtempo house goodness.

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

yeah I like those too actually.

I am not sure he is amazing, but I think he is good.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

yeah, he didn't come up with the paper faces remix of "gem" for example.

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

N_RQ, the simple answer to your trolling is that JLC sounds very different to the LRD album now.

"decadence" still applies maybe, but it's a different kind of decadence, the decadence of "One More Time" and "Digital Love" - ie. the sonic decisions (and, in the case of retro-isms, sonic quotations) are partially determined and wholly transformed by the emotional content of the music. What decadence there is is a certain emotional over-investment. Of course not all his work is emotional in the specific, soppy sense of the "Mr. Brightside" or "What Ya Waitin' For" remixes, but even stuff like the Juliet or Fischerspooner remixes feel somehow larger than life, unsustainable in their monolithic grandeur.

Whereas the decadence you attribute to LRD would be, if I'm on the same page as you, something rather opposite: an investment in structure and form over and against emotional content - which wouldn't be an issue (this is dance music) if the music wasn't so retro. "Now" sonics in dance music tend to be their own justification, but revivalism seems to make most people (myself included) want to impose the burden of proof on the artist in demonstrating that there was a suffienciently good reason for it.

I like how, to the extent that JLC still does feel 80s-ish (and this is reduced too; his remix of Juliet's "Avalon" is like a weird combination of electro-house production and mid-90s salsa-house), the stylistic quotations in his recent work can be really counter-intuitive and confusing. When I wrote about the "Mr. Brightside" remix on Skykicking I was really struggling to pin-down what his assortment of sighing and twinkling synthesisers were intentionally or unintentionally referencing, if anything: New Order yeah, but also the kind of uses of synthesisers you would expect from exactly the srt of rock bands who fall outside the parameters of electroclash 80s revival - The Cure circa Disintegration, The Chameleons, Tears for Fears, mid-to-late 80s U2, Big Country, Marillion... Actually I'd love to see what Glenn from The War Against Sound would think of it!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Whereas the decadence you attribute to LRD would be, if I'm on the same page as you, something rather opposite: an investment in structure and form over and against emotional content - which wouldn't be an issue (this is dance music) if the music wasn't so retro. "Now" sonics in dance music tend to be their own justification, but revivalism seems to make most people (myself included) want to impose the burden of proof on the artist in demonstrating that there was a suffienciently good reason for it.

the decadence line takes me into autobiog. basically i see LRD as big beat: i liked big beat, but by 1998 was a bit bored with it, mainly because of the preponderance of 'comedy' in, eg, bentley rhythm ace, midfield general, etc. and LRD, who was on wall of sound, ur-big beat label, fitted this pattern. his clothes, his fake-frenchness, his 80sness, were all about the roffles. people laughed because he wanted them to laugh. and electro refs, iirc, were staples of big beat but not generally in dahnce at that point in time.

following daft punk (who i loved), he was kicking off an 80s revival, and 1998 was in some ways the height of the 70s revival (boogie nights, lots of disco-house). so i guess it was refreshing for some people.

but anyway, 'now' sonics don't justify themselves -- it has to rock -- but yeah revivalists really have to bring some serious game. and i suppose back then LRD was like the dahnce jurassic five for me. and, lo, missy has now boosted both -- it's funny cos back then i had J5 and LRD down as 'indie'.

but how do you mean that being dance music exempts you from having to provide "emotional content" -- how, in fact, do you discern this from the actual physical means by which emotional content is produced (ie 'form')?

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

I agree about the Big Beat connection.

Big Beat's Biggest Fan (blueski), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

i probably first heard LRD on mary anne hobbes' 'teh breezeblock', but thought thatmight be a bit uk-specific for the timster.

nb -- somebody somewhere asked where the 'music make you lose control' sample comes from. it's on the tip of my tongue, *and* i think it was on a big beat record, but i'm not so keen on listening to my old big beat records (except for 'not another drugstore' which is awesome).

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

ergh, not Teh Warfield ;)

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

justin 'more flava than a packet of macaroni' warfield. how much flava is that -- not much, i'm saying.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

if you look retrospectively at LRD, was it all actually big beat?

"Jacques Your Body" and "From Disco To Disco" are house!

Also I don't think Jacques Lu Cont wanted people to laugh at him or was being ironic, this is a guy who actually wasn't allowed to watch the news or listen to the radio until after a nervous breakdown his parents changed their minds, when he was 16 or something.

And Tim didn't say being dance music doesn't mean you have to have emotional content, how can a record not have emotional content anyhow, he did say it doesn't have to be artistic intention number 1, if I'm reading the distinction correctly.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

also I'm not sure you can say what JLC is doing is entirely retro, EVEN IF it did sound like a specific band (and as Tim hints it doesn't really), afterall, what lone dance producer remixing big name artists has used the same reference points and methods?

And surely the nature of the artists being remixed is important in each case, as regards context etc.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

yeah, in musicological terms it wasn't exactly big beat (but then big beat contained lots of stuff from pseudo-dancehall to pseudo-hip-hop to uh indie-dance). but it was sorta received that way and i think most of his original fans (like my friends) were big beat people -- that didn't mean we disliked other things, obviously, 'music sounds better with you' that year was played in 'big beat' contexts too.

i didn't know that about him, though i guess it's again about how he was placed, by WoS and the dahnce media; it was received as ironic kitsch, anyway, cos the 80s revival didn't really start till 2000 i suppose.

tim said 'investment in structure and form over and against emotional content' was something dance often did. what i'm saying is that you can only get to the content thru the form (and also that i don't know who maid down that rule abt dance). music *is* form. the content is what 'happens' to you/inside you while you are listening to it.

xp -- again, i don't know any of his post-darkdancer stuff, so dunno. his *refs* (ie sleeve design, 'image, ect) were as 80s as, say, ocean colour scene's were 60s, although his *sounds* may have advanced more than theirs.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

well, I think that story about him only emerged after he was strictly speaking a WoS artist, ie in the last 2 years. Before that as far as I know WoS thought "this guy is 17 or 18, and looks like a school kid, so how do we market that", and they concocted this identity for him.

I think JLC himself is about as serious a producer as they come, I think at least he's proven as much as anyone that he's doing the style he does out of genuine interest in it, I mean when he ploughs a furrow he really really ploughs it, also he's not fame hungry or, I suspect, image conscious. He is kind of reclusive I think, doesn't drink etc.

In any case, regardless of how he first appeared, this argument that something has elements of irony in it and is therefore null and void has been wheeled out on ILM so many times, mostly re Discovery. I don't believe artists make records for a laugh, not least when the records are very well recieved.

As regards form/content, surely the absence of lyrics in most dance music leaves the content far more open than in other genres? "what happens to you/inside you while you are listening to it" is not dictated on an emotional level so much as a physical one, at least that's the by the book synopses anyway. But loosely accurate.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

i love discovery, and also don't think there's that big a break between daft punk 95-8 and daft punk 2000-5. i don't think irony is null and void either; maybe it comes down to cases, though, maybe i was harsh because that was where i was then (though as i say, i wuvved daft punk).

i never dance to dance music, so for me it has different meanings, which are physical even if i'm not moving -- bear in mind most 60s rock music was devised as dance music. fucking can be emotional; feeling good, emotinally, makes you feel good.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah I am not saying that dance is emotionless, far from it, that's like misconception number one, but I don't think it's crafted in the same way emotionally speaking as other genres, you start with the groove and the emotions are kind of inherent, might be a good way to describe it. plus so many dance songs are ambiguous, emotionally, and are simultaneously happy/sad.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

that's true -- rave always seemed amazingly melancholy. unlike big beat!

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

there is some bad big beat type stuff on Darkdancer, but there is also some stuff which still holds up very well indeed.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

N_RQ I've tried to follow your arguments but I'm really confused! why don't you like JLC's remixes again?

pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

i'e never heard them, pete. basically i was bemused he was still around 7 years on, ie 'darkdancer' is still on the shelves. i was bemused cos i thought he was a 80s revivalist back in 'the day' (1998), which provided me with a clue as to why i'd up on being a music fan.

N_Rq, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

He pre-empted a particular 80s electro/disco revival, he effectively dictated the trend for Dance Music five years or so in advance.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

I seriously think he played a massive part in giving producer the green light to revive ideas, themes and elements from 15-20 years before, updating them for the now. Daft Punk followed this up large with 'Discovery', a record actually too sequinned and spangled as to be beyond JLC's conception it seems - assuming at one point that he was wanting people to make music like that (tho the likes of 'Veridis Quo' and 'Short Circuit' could totally have come from JLC, or at least I'd like to think so!). I think Felix was also big in forcing this through. Both has a bona-fide appreciation of the brightest, gayest pop and sought to work that back into the mix, but not so that it would be confined underground.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that's otm. he is the modern lovers of the late 90s or something.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

i see. it's a shame if you've let JLC turn you off music. there's lots of other music out there!

pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

haha, there were other factors (my cd player broke, the nme went shit...)

N_RQ, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

New Madonna single produced by Stuart Price

JoB (JoB), Monday, 1 August 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
He also played keyboards on her last two tours and collaborated with her for the whole new album, says RS.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Can't be bad for his wallet.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Has there been any news on that remix comp?

Telephonething (Telephonething), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

so 'jaques your body' is getting re-released/has been re-released. it fits in amazingly well. i can't imagine how, say, fatboy slim's 'rockerfeller skank' or wiseguys' 'ooh la la' (it's contemporaries in big beat '98 style) would play if re-released.

Enrique, naked in an unfamiliar future where corporations run the world... (Enri, Monday, 15 August 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to know . . . how many mix\Djset of JLC you have there ? Because i have only 14 mix of him and i would like to find more !

-=MR-PIOPIO=-, Friday, 19 August 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

No news on the comp yet, sadly.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Funny how JLC barely registers in (continental) Europe since a few years and seems to become one of those "successful overseas" producer-DJs, while his mainstreamish (if inventive) remixes are politely being ignored back where he was initially raised and supported.

Happens a lot i guess.

blunt (blunt), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, just read the whole thread and started a bunch of downloads.

I got into LRD with Darkdancer, side tracked onto Zoot Woman ("Jessie" is my favourite) and then onto his mixes.

I discovered Phoenix because Zoot Woman did an excellent remix of Too Young (the original of which has since appeared in Lost in Translation). And whose track "Heatwave" was reworked as a vocal track in the form of DB Boulevard's "Point of View".

My favourites of his recent work:
. The Killers' "Mr Brightside" (TWD Mix)
. Star Sailor "Four to the Floor" (TWD Mix)
. Gwen Stefani "What You Waiting For?" (TWD Mix, esp the Dub)

If anybody has the Dub mix of Mr Brightside could you pleae share? I've not managed to track down his Electric Six mix, either.

My favourites from his old stuff:
. Phoenix's "Too Young" (ZW Mix)
. Cassius' "My Feeling For You" (LRD Mix)
. Mono "Silicone" (LRD Mix)

Other stuff I have not seen mentioned:
. We In Music "Now That The Love Has Gone" (LRD Mix) - awesome
. Akasha "Brown Sugar (LRD Mix)" - a chillout mix
. The video for LRD's "(Hey You) What's That Sound" (sampling Skee-Lo's "I Wish")
http://www.astralwerks.com/lrd/visuals.html
. The first Les Rythmes Digitales album "Liberation" - not my cuppa

Also, see: http://www.discogs.com

Great thread.
matt

Matt Sephton (emsef), Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

tell me you've heard his remix of 'Silver Screen Shower Scene'? still the best thing he has ever done.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

yeah if you've not heard that a treat is in store!

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I have it.

What's the best way to keep track of this thread? RSS?

Matt Sephton (emsef), Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
Oh my. His new dub of the new Madonna single is a massive anthem, perhaps the closest he's come to trance. He really works the Abba sample perfectly.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:27 (nineteen years ago)

ysi-i-i-i-i--i-i-i-i-p-i-;lease

firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:14 (nineteen years ago)

link

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:45 (nineteen years ago)

Heard a snip of this on Radio 1 last night, had to go out before they played it though. Downloading it now.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

epic dub! thanks for the link

willem (willem), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

haha amazing! he opened with that in Dublin when he played for us.

it is so fucking euro! brilliant!

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that's GREAT.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Is D SP's middle initial?

JoB (JoB), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Best use of ABBA's "Gimme Gimme Gimme" since http://www.discogs.com/release/228074

JoB (JoB), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's odd that it's under the Stuart Price name instead of TWD or JLC. I don't think there is any stylistic difference between the three?

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

Turns out that he's also produced the title track on Princess Superstar's rather excellent - no, really - "My Machine" album.

Can YSI the song if anyone wants it.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

Listening to the clips in iTunes, I'd say he's produced another three on there also.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

He also did 'Artery'. A lot of the rest of it was done by Arthur Baker. Even Armand Van Helden did one.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yo - who the heck is LRD?

Disstroy, Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Les Rythmes Digitales, a Lu Cont alias. Did the whole retro-80s thing very early on.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

One of the songs "Jacques Your Body" from that "Dark Dancer" album can be heard on the Citroen ad with the dancing transformer robot/car.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

i need some help please................ what the f$%^ is this song i heard it goes "hypnotic robotic hypnoticrobotic...." i heard a bit of it just as i was leaving a club the other night and has been stuck in my head ever since it is awesome please email me with answer it would be fantastic thank you all very much

hoges, Sunday, 16 October 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Possibly JLC's remix of Missy Elliott's "Lose Control."

telephone thing, Sunday, 16 October 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Does the non-remixed version of this Madonna single use the same clock noise as his Gwen Stefani remix?

mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 17 October 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

There are a few similarities. I'm betting Madge is as big a fan as we are of the WYWF remixes

Matt Sephton (emsef), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think (although not 100% sure) that the "Lose Control" remix is under the Thin White Duke alias if you're looking for it. It's one of his best, although still behind "Dagnger (High Voltage)".

Nick H (Nick H), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

JLC is amazing, saw him DJ in june and he played his dub mix of madonna hung up and he was filming us all. i asked him what he was filming for but he wouldnt say and apparently he was showing the footage to Madonna so they could decide upon the final tracklisting for the album! definately my fave DJ and his remixes are amazing!

has anyone heard or got any info on his mix of Royksopp - What Else is There??
pete tong played it on radio 1 last friday after his interview with JLC and its amazing - i ripped it from the listen again feature onto my mp3 player and its been playing none stop since then.
any info welcome thanks

cbithell2005, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

I think (although not 100% sure) that the "Lose Control" remix is under the Thin White Duke alias

It's a Jacques lu Cont mix and dub, actually. Anyway, no one knows whether SDP are his initials and if so, what the D is for?

JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

I stand corrected. He certainly works under a lot of names; LRD, TWD, JLC, SP, Zoot Woman (although there's other members too).

Nick H (Nick H), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

yes SDP are his initials and its either david or daniel - forgotten now tho!

cbithell, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

PS did anyone else see JLC DJing earlier this year (around april - june time) and notice he was filming the crowd? i think thats quite a cool way of selecting tracks for the madonna album!

cbithell, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

just saw the madonna 'secret' thingy on the mtv. go stuart! i think...

irrigation can save your people (irrigation can save your peopl), Saturday, 22 October 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

wow, I had no idea he was the Les Rhythm Digitales guy. Fuck me he must be loaded! And one of the most prolific producers going!

That Missy remix alone makes up for 10 other possible wrongs already. Which might be every track on the Madonna album if the singles any indication but fuckit - Les Classique!

login name (fandango), Saturday, 22 October 2005 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

His remix of Fischerspooner "Just Let Go" also has the ticking clock sound.

Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 22 October 2005 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Check out the photo gallery at www.misshapes.com

JLC brought Madonna along with him to Misshapes in new york at the weekend and they did DJed together! Pretty cool methinks. Lets hope the album is as good as the rave reviews its been getting...

cbithell, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Link for the lazy:

http://www.misshapes.com/pages/photoDetail.php?d=10-22-05&id=270&c=300

cbithell, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

you are lazy. there is a WONDERFUL thread on this.

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

Why do so many people hate the "Lose Control" remix so?

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's awesome deej. I will be playing it at some opportune moment during my forthcoming "I handed in my thesis, celebrate me" party.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

The Royksopp remix is another irresitble winner for JLC. This surely is turning on to be *his* year, no?

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 28 October 2005 05:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.popjustice.co.uk/features/stuartprice/

:)

Matt Sephton (emsef), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

this one too
http://www.channel4.com/music/features/S/stuartprice.html

but the popjustice one is better

jellybean (jellybean), Saturday, 29 October 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

"The Royksopp remix is another irresitble winner for JLC. This surely is turning on to be *his* year, no? "

This is beautiful! How does he keep doing it?

My iPod playlist of his remixes is my favourite imaginary album of the year.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 7 November 2005 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I think it might be mine too! I've played the Royksopp mix a lot lately. I almost feel like he's found this utopian point where the line between track-based dance music and out-and-out pop doesn't exist.

It's a shame the remix compilation album that was mentioned by Astralwerks has not come to fruitition yet. There's probably licensing issues...

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 7 November 2005 07:32 (nineteen years ago)

"I almost feel like he's found this utopian point where the line between track-based dance music and out-and-out pop doesn't exist."

There's a thread on Dissensus at the moment about (among other things) whether there's any formal innovation left in dance music, and I've been arguing precisely the above as being JLC's "formal innovation' - my argument probably won't be accepted but I passionately believe it. The synths may not be groundbreaking in some scientific sense, but the whole thing hangs together in a way that I can't imagine anyone but JLC doing. It's fitting that it's this song too - this remix is the most winsome, romantic piece of dance music since the Rex the Dog remix of "Heartbeats".

I've also been overdosing on his remix of "The Conductor" lately.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 7 November 2005 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

Can anybody stick this Royksopp track on you sent it? Thanks!

Matt Sephton (emsef), Monday, 7 November 2005 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

The Paper Faces remix of Chromeo is amazing, and set to be huge I'd say.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 7 November 2005 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think I let the Royksopp one slip by me, it is pretty amazing yeah. It's like he stole the Benny Benassi "Ready 2 Wear" tricks and decheesed the bad dance parts but ramped up the good pop ones!

I wonder can I play this and the Trentemoller one on Thursday, decisions decisions, not right after each other of course!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 7 November 2005 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

My iPod playlist of his remixes is my favourite imaginary album of the year.

I did a CD of these, and yes, yes it is. (And I haven't even heard the Royksopp one.)

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 November 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

attention chaps who are banging on about this ere fantasy album of the year, what is your tracklist? are yers including '...brightside' and the gwen track? give us details here lex, tim, michael etc.

piscesboy, Monday, 7 November 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Here's my iPod playlist - much more material than an album.

Brown Sugar (Les Rythmes Digitales Mix) Akasha
Sex And Sun Part 1 (Thin White Duke Remix) Aloud
Eurodisco (Les Rythmes Digitales Mix) Bis
Feeling For You (Les Rythmes Digitales-Dreamix / Short Remix) Cassius
Is It Love (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix) Chili Hifly
Sleep On the Left Side (Les Rythmes Digitales Mix) Cornershop
My Beatbox (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix) Deejay Punk Roc
Disco Dancing Machines (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix) Dirty Beatniks
Payback Time (Jacques Lu Cont's TWD Mix Edit) The Dysfunctional Psychedelic Waltons
Payback Time (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix) The Dysfunctional Psychedelic Waltons
Death Disco (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix) E-Klektik
Maracana Madness (Zoot Woman Mix) E-Klektik
Danger! High Voltage (Thin White Duke Remix) Electric Six
The Conductor (Thin White Duke Remix) The Faint
Ready To Wear (Paper Faces Mix) Felix Da Housecat
Silver Screen Shower Scene (Jacques Lu Cont Remix) Felix Da Housecat
Just Let Go (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix) Fischerspooner
Twist (Jacques Lu Cont's Conversion Perversion Mix) Goldfrapp
What You Waiting For (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Dub) Gwen Stefani
What You Waiting For (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix) Gwen Stefani
What You Waiting For (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Short Version) Gwen Stefani
Avalon (Jacques Lu Cont Versus Remix Radio Edit) Juliet
Avalon (Jacques Lu Cont Versus Remix) Juliet Remix
Mr. Brightside (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix) The Killers
Mr. Brightside (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Short Version) The Killers
Nothing to Declare (Les Rythmes Digitales Mix) Laptop
Sometimes (Zoot Woman Mix) Les Rythmes Digitales
Hollywood (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duck Mix) Madonna
Hung Up (SDP's Extended Dub) Madonna
Phatty's Lunchbox (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix) Mekon
Naive Song (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix) Mirwais
Miss You (Thin White Duke Remix) Mirwais ft. Craig Wedren
Lose Control (Jacques Lu Cont Dub) Missy Elliott
Silicone (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix) Mono
It's My Life (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix) No Doubt
Too Young (Zoot Woman Remix) Phoenix
Pure Morning (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix) Placebo
Comfortably Numb (Paper Faces Mix) Scissor Sisters
Laura (Paper Faces Remix) Scissor Sisters
Filthy Gorgeous (Paper Faces Vocal Mix) Scissor Sisters
Four to the Floor (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Remix) Starsailor
Gold Is Your Metal (Paper Faces Remix) Themroc
Now That The Love Has Gone (Les Rythmes Digitales Mix) We In Music
Living In A Magazine (Paper Faces Remix) Zoot Woman

Matt Sephton (emsef), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

my cd track list (obviously limited by what i actually have):

1. Electric Six - Danger! High Voltage
2. Goldfrapp - Twist
3. Fischerspooner - Just Let Go
4. Missy Elliott ft Ciara - Lose Control
5. Two Culture Clash ft Ce'Cile & General Degree - Na Na Na Na
6. Whirlpool Productions - From: Disco To: Disco
7. Gwen Stefani - What You Waiting For?
8. Madonna - Hollywood
9. Britney Spears - Breathe On Me
10. Juliet - Avalon
11. The Killers - Mr Brightside

(i made it before 'hung up' leaked)

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

I think we can safely say Matt's will be the most extensive.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

:)

I left New Order off because I couldn't find a non-radio rip.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

There is also going to be a JLC remix of "A Pain That I'm Used To" (As well as a Goldfrapp remix!!!) by Depeche Mode - comes out Dec. 12th I think.

djschool, Monday, 7 November 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

The playlist on my iPod, which kinda accidentally has a good flow:

The Faint - The Conductor (Thin White Duke Mix)
The Killers - Mr. Brightside (Thin White Duke Mix)
Starsailor - Four to the Floor (Thin White Duke Mix)
Juliet - Avalon (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
Missy Elliot - Lose Control (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
Gwen Stefani - What Ya Waitin' For (Thin White Duke Dub)
Zoot Woman - Grey Day (Paper Faces Mix)
Britney Spears - Breathe On Me (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
Felix Da Housecat - Ready 2 Wear (Paper Faces Mix)
Goldfrapp - Twist (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
Madonna - Hollywood (Thin White Duke Mix)
Scissor Sisters - Comfortably Numb (Paper Faces Mix)
Electric Six - Danger! High Voltage! (Thin White Due Mix)
Fischerspooner - Just Let Go (Thin White Duke Mix)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

dude it is criminal that you don't have silver screen shower scene on there!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Slocki I've just had it on so many other CDs and mixes and things that I would very quickly burn out on it. I do love it though.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe that remix was 2 years ago. I used to take drugs every weekend back then!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

I had no idea that a dub existed for the Gwen Stefani remix. What's it like?

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

20 seconds longer and with bare minimum of vocals - excellent! Here it is - share and share alike:

What You Waiting For (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Dub)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M3XKMC7N

Am I missing any other than New Order and Britney? ;)

I have to say the remixes just keep getting better. Röyksopp being the most recent, at about 5:25 in that I start grinning like a fool - the man is one fire! Can't wait for the Madonna album myself.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

Niiice. Although it should have been called "What You Dubbing For"

Mr. Dubside (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

to be honest nothing he's produced since has done it for me like silver screen shower scene

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

just heard the madonna album and the tracks he has produced are smokin red hot! make sure u all check out "Sorry". the melody is a bit poppy, but f**k me! its so catchy and powerful! That ascending bassline just grips me and wont let go lol - the man is officially on fire!! (as if you all didnt know that already)

cbithell05, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

He really seems to have that key factor -- the ability to make great bands/singers keep sounding great while making the bad ones immeasurably improved. (And lest someone here assumes I speak only of the Killers and Gwen, I don't think anyone defends Starsailor and the Music as they are.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

for what it is[n't] worth, the gwen dub is what convinced me disco stu price needed his own thread.

irrigation can save your people (irrigation can save your peopl), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

So, have we all heard the Madonna album? http://tinyurl.com/73nkk

Here's my list of influences I've spotted on there, whether they be sounds, lyrics or melodies:

Kylie, Donna Summer, The Beatles, Daft Punk, Kraftwerk, Yazoo, Fleetwood Mac, Lisa Marie, Royksopp, Todd Terry, The Nightcrawlers and The Police.

Any others? ;)

Matt Sephton (emsef), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

Re: madonna album influences - there's a part on "get together" toward the end that steals from the streets' "blinded by the lights". Sounds great though!

djschool, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

I've not got that Streets album, but I've just listened to it on iTunes Music Store and - blimey - you're not wrong! Great stuff.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ignore me for this mad banter, but i was just out walking the streets of North London by night and wondered if Madonna referred to Mr Price as Stoo-art or Stew-art?

I know - I need to get out more!

Matt Sephton (emsef), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

Arpeggiated basslines courtesy of:

"Sorry" = Azul y Negro "The Night"
"Hung Up" = NY Models "Love on Video"

I don't think the production on "Get Together" is so much influenced by The Streets as it is "Music Sounds Better..." which has "Holiday" as it's influence, but whatever.

kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

I thought maybe, you know, trance tracks.

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

sort of like, Madonna and Skinner are both referencing 'big dance anthem past.'

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, thats the impression I get listening to "Mandarine Girl" too, its like a heavily toned down rave-anthemism thing, and rhythmically it sounds a lot like both songs. Am I crazy?

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

heavily toned down nostalgia-of-rave-anthemism thing, really.

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

That royksopp mix is arguably turning out to be his biggest one yet - Zane Lowe and Annie Mac play it every show without fail. Such a powerful record. Stuart Price is god!

cbithell, Friday, 11 November 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

deej I think that about Mandarine Girl too, the riff is so...what's the word? emblematic? meta-rave? it's a reference-rich record anyway.

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

I take it you're meaning the Booka Shade track?
I dont know what all the fuss is about that track personally, but then again i'm not overly into minimal.
Also, I can sorta see the similarities between the synths used on the streets track & on madarine girl, and the streets riff is *kind of slightly* similar to madonnas get together track but i'm not quite getting this whole meta-rave / anthemism thing you've both been saying...

cbithell, Sunday, 13 November 2005 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, anyone heard JLC's mix of the new depeche mode song? or his paper faces mix of Chromeo - Needy Girl? spotted them on the buzz chart/pete tong's playlists but not heard them yet.

by the way it seems to me that he is growing into or exposing his "uber producer" side if that makes any sense. What with trancey type tracks like Madonna - Get Together, & also his remix of Juliet - Ride the Pain. Some of his newer stuff seems to be a bit more, duno whats the word? thats why i used uber. But then you here stuff like I Love NY & Sorry from the M album and you realise hes not changed, just showing different areas of his multi-talented-ness! I repeat, the man is a legend.

cbithell, Sunday, 13 November 2005 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

anyone heard JLC's mix of the new depeche mode song? or his paper faces mix of Chromeo - Needy Girl?

You can hear both tracks on my radio show from last night (RealAudio, "uur 1").

JoB (JoB), Sunday, 20 November 2005 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

i heard his production for PRINCESS SUPERSTAR and My machine is a reremix of Elvis economics that he remixed long time ago. Don't know if this is true? Anyone can tell me?

PIOPIO, Thursday, 1 December 2005 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Anyone else see him at fabric this friday just gone? it was top set from the man price! i think he played some sort of work-in-progress remix of 'madonna - let it will be' which went down a treat! Loved the way he got everyone at the front chanting "i wana ride a white horse" when he played that goldfrapp track. A good night was had by all!

cbithell, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

The Depeche Mode mix is right near the top of my current favourites.

Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 19 December 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Catching up on this... the Gwen Stefani track IS perfect isn't it? Next up, Starsailor.

Mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

I just found a very extensive collection of remixes on oink. Any of you on that might be interested. Filled in any gaps I had in what remixes i had of his:

Jacques Lu Cont Remixes

1998 Placebo - Pure Morning (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix)
1999 Orbital - Nothing Left (Les Rhythmes Digitales Remix)
1999 Les Rythmes Digitales – Sometimes (Zoot Woman Remix)
1999 Les Rythmes Digitales - (Hey You) Whats That Sound (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix)
1999 Les Rythmes Digitales - Music Makes You Loose Control (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix)
2000 Chili Hi Fly - Is It Love? (Les Rythmes Digitales Remix)
2000 Phoenix – Too Young (Zoot Woman Remix)
2001 Zoot Woman - It's Automatic (Paper Faces Mix)
2001 We In Music - Now That Love Has Gone (Remix By Les Rythmes Digitales)
2002 Felix Da Housecat - Silver Screen Shower Scene (Jacques Lu Cont Remix)
2003 Mirwais - Miss You (Thin White Duke Mix)
2003 Madonna - Hollywood (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duck Mix)
2003 The Dysfunctional Psychedelic Waltons - Payback Time (Jacques Lu Cont's TWD Mix)
2003 Goldfrapp - Twist (Conversion Perversion Mix)
2003 No Doubt – It’s My Life (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
2003 The Faint - The Conductor (Thin White Duke's Remix)
2003 Scissor Sisters - Comfortably Numb (Paper Faces Mix)
2003 Zoot Woman – Grey Day (Paper Faces Mix)
2003 Ralph Myerz & The Jack Herren Band – Casino (Zoot Woman Remix)
2004 Starsailor - Four To The Floor (Thin White Duke Mix)
2004 Aloud - Sex & Sun (Thin White Duke Remix)
2004 Gwen Stefani - What You Waiting For? (Jacques Lu Cont's TWD Mix)
2004 Scissor Sisters - Laura (Paper Faces Remix)
2004 Zoot Woman - Gem (Paper Faces' Remix)
2004 Britney Spears – Breathe On Me (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
2005 The Killers – Mr Brightside (Jacques Lu Cont’s TWD Mix)
2005 The Music – Bleed From Within (Jacques Lu Cont’s TWD Mix)
2005 Juliet – Avalon (Jacques Lu Cont’s TWD Mix)
2005 Fischerspooner – Just Let Go (Jacques Lu Cont’s TWD Mix)
2005 Scissor Sisters – Filthy / Gorgeous (Paper Faces Remix)
2005 Felix Da Housecat – Ready 2 Wear (Paper Faces Mix)
2005 New Order – Jetstream (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
2005 Juliet – Ride The Pain (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
2005 Missy Elliott – Lose Control (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
2005 Royksopp - What Else Is There (Jacques Lu Cont Edit)
2005 Madonna - Hung up (SDP Extended Remix Dub)

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

What is this oink you mention?

Matt Sephton (emsef), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

It's a very good bittorrent site. Unfortunately it works on an invite system but they have an IRC channel that you can usually get invites from. Or failing that maybe I will get some more one day.

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

the remix if eurodisco by bis was utter shite. just can't get enough comedy pastiche nonsense. sounds uncannily like a depeche mode soundalike band from the east end of glasgow i knew in 86.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

What's the Ready 2 Wear (Paper Faces Remix) like? I think that's the only song I still like off that Felix album...

natedey (ndeyoung), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Funny how the remix he did for me (on the Medicine-As You Do single on wall of sound 2004 ) never gets mentioned. I thought it was rather nice, but then I would....

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

I have that one! I can't remember how it sounds but it's quite odd as far as I remember.

(I also took alot of drugs listening to "Capital Rocka" in 2002)

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Captital rocka is by the Impostor Medicine, not me.. They ended up calling themselevs medicine 8 or something equally wack...

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

ah that's weird, I always thought that single on Wall of Sound was the same Medicine...

you are the rock Medicine?

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

si señor, we did an album and 3 singles on WOS post-imposter medicine. It's a long silly story...

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I think the other ones are finished now....

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

bwah ha ha !

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

2002 Felix Da Housecat - Silver Screen Shower Scene (Jacques Lu Cont Remix)

still the best.


where are Medicine 8?! i really love their production.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

yeah I thought they were cool.

I don't know where they are! But Discogs tell me they record as "We Are" too, and I know Erol and co have been playing some tune by "We Are" recently.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

In the Dub remix of "A Pain That I'm Used To" You can hear a sample of "Living In A Magazine"

MR-PIOPIO, Thursday, 22 December 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
hi all, not much action on here lately - happy new year first of all.

Any news on any of his new remixes or anything? looking forward to something new. Hope he remixes madonnas new single Sorry! I heard the Pet Shop Boys, of all people, have done a remix but that's about it so far. oh and apparently tim westwood is rumoured to make a cameo appearance in the promo video. (????)

cbithell, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's so Tim Westwood can say sorry for all the years of him acting like a complete prat?

Matt Sephton (emsef), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

hahaa indeed.
no i heard it was going to be some sort of pimp my ride style video (westwood does the appauling uk version of it on MTV). could be "interesting"

cbithell, Thursday, 12 January 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

according to some madonna website i looked at earlier he's done 2 new remixes:

Madonna - Sorry (Man With Guitar mix)
Madonna - Let it Will Be (Paper Faces mix)

nice to see the man with guitar name getting used again. heard him play his "Let it will be" remix a few weeks back and it sounded great. roll on february!

cbithell, Monday, 16 January 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

jesus christ the man is god

last night pete tong played his remix of Madonna - Sorry & an exclusive premier of his remix of Coldplay - Talk

Listen to the show here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/petetong/tracklistingsarchive.shtml

both mixes sound amazing
ps - why am i the only one posting on here lately? hehe

cbithell, Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god! I was just thinking today, "Gee, "Talk" is like the best Coldplay song since "Clocks" by far and probably better, JLC should remix it!"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

Tom and I had a great pub conversation not so long ago along the lines of 'mediocre 90s indie records that Jacques Lu Cont should remix and make amazing'. We decided that letting him loose on Wide Open Space by Mansun would be the best thing ever.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

Geneva - Tranquilizer!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

(although if i recall that's not mediocre)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

This Coldplay mix is fantastic, btw.

Was Tranquilizer the one that went "let us be happy while we're still young?" JLC could loop that bit again and again and build it up with fuzzy So Much Love To Give synths and OMG OMG OMG!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

ATTENTION STEVEM - Please make this remix a reality.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

That is EXACTLY what I imagined Matt!

Puressence - "This Feeling" would also go down a treat.

"I get this feeling/I get this feeling/tumbling around around around around around around around around around around around around..."

Mind you now I'm just listing all my very favourite indie guilt pleasures.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Placebo - Teenage Angst:

"Shine the headlight/straight into my eyes!"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Placebo - Teenage Angst would work as well, if he expunged Brian Molko altogether and just filtered the guitar riff.

IIRC we also mangled our brains trying to work out how the JLC Paranoid Android mix would sound.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Argh xpost WTF?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

whoa, mindmeld.

I was thinking the exact same thing about that Coldplay tune, ie their best thing in ages. We are all melody suckers!

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit that remix is very very like "Carnival" isn't it? Beautiful!

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

AND MANY SUNS ARE SHINING AT ONCE AND COLDPLAY ALWAYS WERE GOOD

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

jacques MUST produce a rock record soon...

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Entire JLC Killers album please.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

I've yet to hear the Coldplay mix is it anything like the RIAA Kraftplay mashup? As for classic indie remixes, I for one would love to hear Suede's Beautiful Ones (Jacques Lu Cont extended dub).

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

I also vote for the Puressence remix!

AND - surely we all know Coldplay's Talk lifts the riff and melody from Kraftwerk's Computer Love don't we? They even got permission to do so!

Matt Sephton (emsef), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Also, can somebody please share/yousendit these new remixes?

Matt Sephton (emsef), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was Speed Of Sound that had the Computer Love lift? Or have they been really lazy and included it in two songs?

Joyously, the Kraftwerk is all present and correct in the remix.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wow, I must check that out. Kraftwerk+JLC+best Coldplay song sounds like the motherlode of dancefloor heaven.

Matt, you were aware that Oakenfold remixed Wide Open Space?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Saturday, 21 January 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

you are all insane!

i don't want to hear the jlc coldplay mix as i think 'talk' is fucking disgusting. melody is good but not on horrible widescreen stadium guitar!

i think jlc should stay very firmly away from the bad indie. AS SHOULD YOU ALL.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 21 January 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

i like the killers remix. it is...nostalgic

i haven't heard his new remix of morten gamst pedersen yet, but i'm anticipating good things from it

terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 21 January 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha!

lex his crowning moment involved tearing the shit out of that awful starsailor track, he should go near MORE indie as long as he's going to do a similar job.

controversial buffalo stance (haitch), Saturday, 21 January 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I actually kinda like the widescreen stadium guitar riff in "Talk", the whole thing reminds me a bit of The Smashing Pumpkins' Adore (OH MY GOD JLC REMIX OF "1979" NOW!). However Lex I appreciate yr ministry and the work you're doing here.

"Placebo - Teenage Angst would work as well, if he expunged Brian Molko altogether and just filtered the guitar riff. "

Ha ha! Yes it was the guitar riff I was primarily thinking of.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 21 January 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Shit i seem to have started something here!

Anyone who gets hold of the coldplay or either of the 2 madonna mixes in decent full length quality then please email me!

This coldplay mix is really really special - been on loop on my player since tong played it on friday night!

cbithell05, Sunday, 22 January 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

after listening to the coldplay track a few times i can sense a JLC dub surficing in a few weeks along similar lines to his depeche mode / killers dubs (more epic & prog than his original remix) This is SO gonna be the B-side to coldplay's next single!

cbithell05, Sunday, 22 January 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

lex his crowning moment involved tearing the shit out of that awful starsailor track, he should go near MORE indie as long as he's going to do a similar job.

the trouble with that starsailor mix is that he doesn't treat the vocals enough - everything is perfect apart from the starsailor bloke's awful portentous whine (and ugh the lyrics). however, if he can do to 'talk' what he did to 'mr brightside'...

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 22 January 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

This is my favorite thread to consistently reappear on ILX - every time I see it pop up on New Answers, I know I've got something really incredible to keep an eye out for, which this time appears to be the Coldplay mix.

Also CLEARLY the indie band JLC needs to be working with is Snow Patrol.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Entire JLC Killers album please.

"Hey wait, my vocals aren't anywhere on the album!"

"There there, Brandon, you go and play with your drugs."

I really should hear the "Talk" remix if you promise me that Chris Martin is not on it, nothing of the original song is on it, and in fact the original band had nothing to do with it at all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

i think the fact that this has only just surfaced now - weeks after the Talk single release, means that like the Killers remix it's just something hes done of his own accord so to speak.
which makes it even more special, maybe...

still waiting to properly hear his paper faces remix of madge's "let it will be"

cbithell05, Monday, 23 January 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

ned v much otm

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 23 January 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Starsailor, Madonna, The Killers, Coldplay....

Why is he working ONLY with godawful vocalists?? Thank god Oasis or The Stereophonics are too hetero-real-music obsessed to ask for b-side fodder from him!


fandango (fandango), Monday, 23 January 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Why is he... ooops

fandango (fandango), Monday, 23 January 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

You can download the thin white duke mix of talk on 7digital - available through coldplay's website

download, Monday, 23 January 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost - obviously I should have read the rest of the thread... weird how the shit into gold ones seem to be his most loudly acclaimed though!)

fandango (fandango), Monday, 23 January 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kinda surprised (tho I guess I shldnt be) that Lex doesn't like the Killers more. I mean "Somebody Told Me" has big-ass Lil Jon style synths! I think I may have talked shit about this song in the past but I was wrong. Oh yeah, and "Talk" is awesome, can't wait to hear the remix. Whats w that crazy dissensus thread where everybody is suddenly against meta referencing because its done by coldplay and not grime artists.

deej....., Monday, 23 January 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

We decided that letting him loose on Wide Open Space by Mansun would be the best thing ever.

YES! Although the Perfecto mix on the single might be close enough.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 23 January 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I mean you're all forgetting that a lot of late 90s indie singles already have trancey-house remixes on the single! granted none of them are probably as good as present day JLC but still.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 23 January 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

You can download the thin white duke mix of talk on 7digital

Can I buy it as an mp3 anywhere? I'd even settle for m4a, so long as I can listen to it on my iPod.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 23 January 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

The WMA they sell at 7digital are also Mac incompatible. :/

Matt Sephton (emsef), Monday, 23 January 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I agree about that Dissensus thread Deej, although I think that ILM's initial thread on the topic struck a similar tone! I only realised that "Talk" was the Kraftwerk-referencing tune after I'd already started to like it.

I think Lex needs his indie-hate, I don't want to take it away from him, and dissensus of course need their hate of anything pronounced middlebrow - but of course these sorts of broad-brush rejections of entire swathes of music are quite removed from how I think music mostly actually works. What is it about a Coldplay or The Killers song which makes it automatically bad? More specifically, is it a foregone conclusion that the (yes, mostly quite cloying) vocals on Starsailor songs will sound awful in every setting and context imaginable?

I was watching this multi-part documentary last night called "Race: the Power of an Illusion", and the episode was focusing on the issue of the links between genes/DNA and racial characteristics (actual or presumed). This scientist was talking about how it's entirely erroneous to talk about the "gene for sports" or the "gene for music", when most human physical characteristics and certainly soemthing as subtle as a talent or aptitude are created by the infinitely complex interaction of genes - with eachother, and then with the environment as well. A corollary of this point is the fact that there is no "race" wherein every member will have one particular type of gene which is not shared by member of others races.

And it struck me that you could easily do a series on music called "Style: The Power of an Illusion"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 23 January 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

The WMA they sell at 7digital are also Mac incompatible. :/
so it seems, yes. unbelievable. wankers. (let's see if they read their mail. and do something with/about it)

willem -- (willem), Monday, 23 January 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

This site has the "Talk" remix converted to Mp3: http://digitaleargasm.blogspot.com/2006/01/coldplay-for-playing.html

Mugged Outside the Jabberjaw, 1993 (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 23 January 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

god he really can do no wrong!!

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 23 January 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

let's talk, let's talk, let's talk, let's talk, let's talk, let's talk, LET'S TALK, LET'S TALK, LET'S TALK!!!!!!

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 23 January 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's pretty great! I love that trick of changing the chords under the melody - it never gets old!

Mugged Outside the Jabberjaw, 1993 (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 23 January 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

holy fuck it's incredible

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

it'd be even better, though, if they translated the wonky chris martin vocals into german and got a woman to sing it, but i think that about most things

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

: D

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

: D : D :D

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

So, Stuart's on fire. I'm betting after the Madonna gig he's never going to have to work again. Good on him!

If most people wer in his position I'm betting they'd likely fall into a downward spiral not knowing what to do with the rest of their lives. Yet Stuart gets out of bed and creates this Coldplay remix just for the hell of it. What a guy! I can imagine him dancing round his bedroom studio thinking "Ha! I've done it again!"

Matt Sephton (emsef), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

cozen emphatically OTM.

controversial buffalo stance (haitch), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm playing my laptop like a record deck here!!

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

R...E...M...I...X!
love it!

and does anyone know what that little tune is - right at the very very end of the mix? i'm sure its off some old cartoon or something like that (???)

cbithell05, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think Lex needs his indie-hate, I don't want to take it away from him, and dissensus of course need their hate of anything pronounced middlebrow - but of course these sorts of broad-brush rejections of entire swathes of music are quite removed from how I think music mostly actually works.

but the punchline to my indie hate is that i like some indie when it's good! but the bits which i have kneejerk reactions to aren't really v big swathes of music - all this coldplay killers franz ferdinand futureheads nonsense basically belongs to a pretty narrow genre of indie.

What is it about a Coldplay or The Killers song which makes it automatically bad?

a) vocals
b) lyrics
c) arrangement

More specifically, is it a foregone conclusion that the (yes, mostly quite cloying) vocals on Starsailor songs will sound awful in every setting and context imaginable?

starsailor is an extreme example to which i would answer YES, but there are some indie voices which can be redeemed, like on the killers remix. i'm not sure whether chris martin's can be, though am prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt until i've heard it.

if jlc must remix indie, i think joanna newsom's voice and melodies would be fucking awesome in an electro setting. also ariel pink!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

'immune to emotion' jlc rmx NOW PLEASE

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

indietown, population lex.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

a) vocals
b) lyrics
c) arrangement

MY FRIEND. (Though the lyrics is bottom of the list for me.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

also ariel pink!

Hey, that would be inspired...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Q:

What is it about a Coldplay or The Killers song which makes it automatically bad?

A:

a) vocals
b) lyrics
c) arrangement

this is an INDIE answer in that it overemphasizes the two least important elements of the songs and somehow manages to entirely miss out one of the most important: the song itself!

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

vocals + lyrics + arrangement + melody = song!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't liked anything he's done lately as much as "Avalon" or "Jetstream" :(

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

holy shit

:-o

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

He's definitely sounding a lot better here. At the least Chris Martin should junk the band and become the Thom Yorke for swinging lovers.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Okay Lex, but you've actually listed three things about Coldplay and The Killers which make them bad, and you're listing the symptoms of their badness rather than the cause (sort of like if I complained, "Why do I have a cold?" and you told me "because you have a blocked nose and a persistant cough"). Of course symptoms are causes too (blocked noses cause persistant coughs), but when you don't know much about physiology they're more likely to appear like mysterious manifestations, and I think we know a lot more about the physiology of the body than we do about the physiology of the song.

What I'm trying to get at is that there is no root cause for these groups being unlikeable (and I agree that they are often are, more so in Coldplay's case), what we've got is a set of variable causes and symptoms that can be tweaked to produce different effects. (I think you've already impliedly agreed with me on this point though)

In a strange way I think it's important that JLC does do this sort of sow's ear to silk purse surgical transformation work because it demonstrates a... what? "Lost potentiality in indie" sounds too melodramatic, but it does point out that this stuff is not beyond saving, that it could still be interesting if better choices were being made by the original artists.

For a while I've been thinking that what I used to call the "MOR-indie cancer" was basically the act of divorcing of anti-masculine indie guitar rock from many of its previous habitual signifiers - the camp, the fey, the gothic, the ethereal, the truly androgynous, the child-like, the mystical. A fusion of late-90s Manic Street Preachers with Jeff Buckley at his most conservative. This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours remains one of the most dramatic examples of the early spread of MOR-indie cancer, but perhaps in truth the seeds were sown in the pub-rock-with-Mike-Hedges-production of Everything Must Go, an album I liked a lot at the time (significantly, perhaps, I tried to work out which song from this album JLC could remix and I don't think any of them would suit - the vocals are actually much less suitable than Starsailor's... although perhaps that's impossible to know in advance of the finished product?)

But it all came to fruition with Travis's "Why Does It Always Rain On Me", a song I hated with a passionate fervour 5-6 years ago, precisely because it seemed like a deliberate disavowal of all the qualities (listed above) I enjoyed in superficially quite similar previous indie - and the sense of the finality of its severance can be seen in comparison to the more likeable "Writing To Reach You" which preceded it.

But indie rock is weakened by such things rather than lost irretrievably - maybe what some of us like about Coldplay's most U2-like efforts ("Clocks", "Talk") is how they perhaps inadvertantly reimagine links back to a different type of anti-masculine indie guitar-rock, where sound and melody triumph over "the song", or where different sorts of songs are valued (it's faint though, almost like a memory of a dream about something).

What JLC does on his most songful remixes - apart from contributing these awesome monolithic grooves - is to recreate as many links to outside signifiers as possible. So the "Four To The Floor" remix takes the original stodgily dramatic string-swept torpor and transforms it into future-goth splendour (the portentous opening synths remind me of some of the music in A Clockwork Orange, I think maybe the scene where Alex is demonstrating his reprogramming by trying and failing to touch a woman's breasts) - simultaneously fey, camp, gothic, ethereal, androgynous, childlike...

The difference in order of success b/w that track and his remix of "Mr. Brightside" (not nearly as effective as a dance track) is perhaps simply that where the former is clearly sow's ear to silk purse, with the latter you start to doubt whethere the original ever really was a sow's ear (and I think it mostly actually is), so subtle and yet so dramatic is the revamping, so massive and yet so natural this outward expansion of the song's limits.

Funnily enough I simply can't agree with the idea of JLC remixing Newsom or Ariel Pink, the idea actually turns me off massively, and it's not that I dislike the artists in question (Ariel Pink though, especially... his songs are so frail that I don't think anything of them would survive the JLC treatment - why bother at all?).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

hmmm, i've been mulling this one since my last intemperate intervention. i kind of think you're not giving the original productions of these indie tracks the time of day -- or more specifically 'mr brightside', which i've now heard through phones, and which i think is a more interesting production & arrangement than lu cont's mix; it has things like peaks, troughs, tension and release, and sonic texture, not this relentless driving thing jlc goes for; it's also more compact (of course jlc's version is for the dancefloor; but this doesn't concern me).

perhaps in truth the seeds were sown in the pub-rock-with-Mike-Hedges-production of Everything Must Go, an album I liked a lot at the time (significantly, perhaps, I tried to work out which song from this album JLC could remix and I don't think any of them would suit - the vocals are actually much less suitable than Starsailor's... although perhaps that's impossible to know in advance of the finished product?)

iirc the chemical bros mix of 'everthing must go' was ok (sort of previewed *their* move towards relentless grooves...) but the jon carter of 'kevin carter', not so much.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

I despise Joanna Newsome! It actually makes me cringe listening to it!

x-post it also has the cynicism of indie posturing by the bagful

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

What I'm trying to get at is that there is no root cause for these groups being unlikeable (and I agree that they are often are, more so in Coldplay's case), what we've got is a set of variable causes and symptoms that can be tweaked to produce different effects. (I think you've already impliedly agreed with me on this point though)

I can definitely agree re The Killers because, well, it's been proven - without a great deal of actual tweaking all the original constituent parts suddenly became magnificent rather than stodgy. But I think certain indie bands ARE at root unlikeable, Starsailor being one of them, and then mainly because of that awful voice - however while I think JLC's 'Four To The Floor' remix didn't quite succeed I can still see how and why it might have done.

But assuming that the vocals etc are the symptoms rather than the cause, doesn't this mean that no music is unsalvageable? (I'd say that the cause of the dreadful vocals and lyrics is these indie band's fundamental outlook on life which can be easily changed!) And hence the lost potentiality isn't really an indie-specific thing (unless you mean that it's their friendliness with melody which makes them so salvageable for JLC - I doubt he could redeem some of Coldplay's more insubstantial pieces).

this stuff is not beyond saving, that it could still be interesting if better choices were being made by the original artists.

But isn't the cause of their unlikeability the fact that the original artists are not the sort of people who would ever make the choices you're talking about?

the camp, the fey, the gothic, the ethereal, the truly androgynous, the child-like, the mystical.

Haha this is otm - the indie artists who spring to mind who have retained these qualities are Newsom and Pink though! Maybe this is why you feel they don't need rescuing by JLC or similar? I think 'Immune To Emotion' and 'Oblivious Peninsula' are strong and propulsive enough to be successful remix choices - as for Newsom I listened to as much of her as I could bear last night and it's not JLC who should remix her, it's Tiefschwarz or Black Strobe or Trentemoller, someone who can counteract her twee with super-fucked-up techno sounds.

(Ronan I can understand anyone who hates J Newsom - I like her in small doses - but she is surely preferable than Coldplay/Killers/Arctic Twats guitar boringness!)


(significantly, perhaps, I tried to work out which song from this album JLC could remix and I don't think any of them would suit - the vocals are actually much less suitable than Starsailor's... although perhaps that's impossible to know in advance of the finished product?)

I can only remember 'A Design For Life' which I can't imagine as a JLC remix - oh hang on maybe 'The Everlasting'? It's definitely potentially epic. Although I think a JLC Jeff Buckley remix would be ACE - Buckley can at root hold notes without sounding punchable, the trouble would be finding a Buckley song with enough melody to carry a remix.

But indie rock is weakened by such things rather than lost irretrievably - maybe what some of us like about Coldplay's most U2-like efforts ("Clocks", "Talk") is how they perhaps inadvertantly reimagine links back to a different type of anti-masculine indie guitar-rock, where sound and melody triumph over "the song", or where different sorts of songs are valued (it's faint though, almost like a memory of a dream about something).

It's a different kind of anti-masculinity for me - wet and soppy and pathetic rather than androgynous. In fact I find it very anti-androgynous - Coldplay et al are very definitely hetero and masculine, just that faintly embarrassing 'sensitive' masculinity which Fucking Nick Hornby appears to have made acceptable over the last decade. It's all very I-don't-understand-girls rather than maybe-I-am-a-girl.

The difference in order of success b/w that track and his remix of "Mr. Brightside" (not nearly as effective as a dance track) is perhaps simply that where the former is clearly sow's ear to silk purse, with the latter you start to doubt whethere the original ever really was a sow's ear (and I think it mostly actually is), so subtle and yet so dramatic is the revamping, so massive and yet so natural this outward expansion of the song's limits.

yes! All is made clear when you actually listen to the original though, as when I asked a DJing friend to play 'Mr Brightside' assuming she would play the JLC remix and she played the original :(

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

It might be worth remembering here that some people (okay maybe just me) who like JLC generally but remain generally indifferent about The Killers (as opposed to cartoon hate) hold the 'Mr Brightside' remix and the original in equal esteem (s'alright s'pose).

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

And I suppose my problem with JLC's remixes of The Killers, Coldplay, Starsailor is that he fails, in my opinion, to really elevate the tracks to the extent that whatever bothered me about the band/track before evaporates. It's interesting that this does work for other people. But it seems the only JLC remixes I really like are the ones for songs I loved in their original form anyway (Felix, Gwen, Royksopp etc.).

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

For me this is quite the contrary, I abhor Gwen Sefani and I think I could say I dislike Starsailor but I adore both of those JLC remixes. Perhaps I even love the Gwen Dub. But it's just, like, music, man.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

the other jlc sow's ear/silk purse remix which springs to mind is Madonna's 'Hollywood' - it's very obvious how he makes it great (cutting up her vocals so it becomes a paean to everything the original criticises), but it kind of shows that his silk purse capacity isn't limited to indie.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

The weird thing about the Mr Brightside mix is (despite the JLC mix being much, much better), how it's the only remix he's done that actually makes the song LESS danceable.

The ultimate silk/sow JLC remix is What Ya Waiting For, in that it removes almost all traces of Gwen Stefani and for that matter the original and just loops the four good bars again and again and makes them sound sublime. Whereas conversely its Richard X who succeeds in doing to Cool what JLC does to Mr Brightside - coax out the essential quality of the tune that original arrangement is too clumsy to achieve.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

(Although I think about it, said Mr Brightside dance usually entails me grabbing the nearest girl by both hands, spinning round really fast and then falling over)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Most of the JLC rock remixes are not very concerned with being danceable at all.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

I flirted with the idea of the original "Mr. Brightside" being good also, but I just never ever ever want to listen to it. And there are aspects of Flowers' perfomance which work a lot better in JLC's remix than in the original. Also I really just don't understand this:

"it has things like peaks, troughs, tension and release, and sonic texture, not this relentless driving thing jlc goes for"

If anything I'd see it as the reverse - JLC invents peaks and troughs that weren't there in the original, and the pomp-eighties keyboard sound interests me more than the Killers standard (if pleasant) guitar attack. Also I think it's one of JLC's least "relentless driving" remixes ever!

"But isn't the cause of their unlikeability the fact that the original artists are not the sort of people who would ever make the choices you're talking about?"

Lex, perhaps not, I don't know! I don't know a single thing about the Starsailor guy and have no desire to. I think your "outlook on life" cause'n'effect argument is tenuous though, I'm not sure why a particular outlook on life necessarily leads to certain musical choices, and these seem like very ad hominem observations which are hard to ground in the music. The "outlook on life" which a particular indie song or band conveys strikes me as being another "symptom" (my point is that it's all symptoms). And yes, that does mean that in theory there is no music beyond saving - however the profusion of particularly virulent and unpleasant symptoms would place many songs beyond the realistic possibility of sonic redemption.

"It's a different kind of anti-masculinity for me - wet and soppy and pathetic rather than androgynous. In fact I find it very anti-androgynous - Coldplay et al are very definitely hetero and masculine, just that faintly embarrassing 'sensitive' masculinity which Fucking Nick Hornby appears to have made acceptable over the last decade. It's all very I-don't-understand-girls rather than maybe-I-am-a-girl."

Yes well if it wasn't clear I was saying this is exactly the type of anti-masculine rock music that most of Coldplay's music (and Travis and Starsailor etc.) aspires to, and that occasionally - only occasionally - one hears hints of an alternative path they might have taken. Lex you probably don't know how well I understand you on this point, some of my earliest posts on Skykicking almost 6 years ago were incensed rants against Travis for this very thing!

"Haha this is otm - the indie artists who spring to mind who have retained these qualities are Newsom and Pink though! Maybe this is why you feel they don't need rescuing by JLC or similar?"

Actually I think this might be right. I just feel like part of JLC's modus operandi is to attack the self-contained substantiality of the conventional rock-or-pop song - to take a song which is secure in but also limited by its own sense of comfortable self-identity, and to make it bigger but also more ambiguous. Whereas by contrast the very insubstantiality of Newsom or Pink - the fact that they seem to be nothing but the implication of those signifiers I listed - means that he has nowhere to take them, other than make some unrelated dance track with snippets of their vocals arbitrarily weaved through it.

Re Madonna - utterly OTM.

Matt you are sadly wrong about "Cool", which is much better in its original form than in Richard X's (though I do like the latter). In my head I can hear a Richard X remix of "Cool" that is closer to his Freeform Five remix, and ends up sounding like Future Bible Heroes' "Real Summer".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

That Madonna remix is better than anything he produced for Madonna on the latest album. Yes even the blatant and great "Mandarine Girl" rip!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

There's nothing clumsy about the original 'Cool'! It's just very soppy.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

My thing re JLC's Stefani remix is: I'd rather hear that great synth line and the other added bits elsewhere, outside the confines of the original context. That remix would work better for me as an original track. It sounds a bit like a mash-up with Stefani's vocal floating on top. This doesn't really make the song any better as the original was euphoric and zany enough - it's as if he was just trying to make Stefani tolerable for the people who couldn't stand her, but by throwing some good ideas in as he usually does.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't the "Mandarine Girl" rip not even one of JLC's tracks?

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 26 January 2006 05:15 (nineteen years ago)

i dont like the coldplay remix very much. im not sure i understand. i have heard the original, but only on television, both this and the remix seem...forgettable

terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

it always surprises me that many people with otherwise acceptable taste are Stefani haters. I can understand where most Stefani haters are coming from but I mostly feel profound pity for them! In my mind 'What You Waiting For?' and 'Cool' and 'Hollaback Girl' and all the remixes I've heard of all of them are completely awesome in their various ways.

Re the Madonna album - I think any failings it has are down to the fact that Madonna didn't really bother to write any particularly strong songs other than 'Hung Up', some of the production ('Push', 'Let It Will Be' and 'I Love New York' especially) is just immense, so immense that the lack of actual songs doesn't even seem like a failing.

I think your "outlook on life" cause'n'effect argument is tenuous though, I'm not sure why a particular outlook on life necessarily leads to certain musical choices, and these seem like very ad hominem observations which are hard to ground in the music. The "outlook on life" which a particular indie song or band conveys strikes me as being another "symptom" (my point is that it's all symptoms).

I should have written 'outlook on music': at the root of the musical choices bands like The Killers and Starsailor make is a very fundamental perception on What Proper Music Is and How It Should Be Made and Who Should Make It - these indie bloke types can often be found spouting off at length about these things in interviews, the one who springs to mind is him out of Stereophonics (aha! aha! now if anyone is beyond redemption it is THEM! I challenge anyone to find any way in which any Stereophonics song could be made great without every trace of the original being removed from it!).

And yes, that does mean that in theory there is no music beyond saving - however the profusion of particularly virulent and unpleasant symptoms would place many songs beyond the realistic possibility of sonic redemption.

For me, in many cases, this would be the vocals.

Actually I think this might be right. I just feel like part of JLC's modus operandi is to attack the self-contained substantiality of the conventional rock-or-pop song - to take a song which is secure in but also limited by its own sense of comfortable self-identity, and to make it bigger but also more ambiguous.

Yes, this makes a lot of sense - of all the electrohouse remixers JLC is probably the only one who'll retain many elements of the song's original structure, its verse-chorus-verse, where others would take vocal and instrumental fragments only. And yes, while I think some Newsom and Pink songs would be strong enough to withstand the JLC treatment they're not as traditionally songful as what JLC usually works with...which makes the un-songful Confessions On A Dance Floor something of an anomaly, and weird to listen to, because unlike the remixes where the song came first it's very obvious that the production came first.

My favourite JLC moments are the ones where he has diva vocals to work with - he's very good at magnifying both the longingness and world-filling ego in them: Juliet, Gwen, Madonna, Britney, Ciara. In fact I think he should do a remix of 'You Got The Love' asap.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't much like Gwen because I find her simpering-woman-girly-girly-boo-boo lip wobble voice & act about as appealing as Mr. Bright Eyes' male equivalent. I don't mind Hollaback Girl though.

And Madonna ruins that album by saving some of her ugliest singing ever for it and covering some great backing tracks with the most graceless & stilted delivery I've heard since er... M.I.A. (need other reference points!... oh fuck it, it'll do).

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

i'm with gareth in that i don't find the Coldplay mix special, not that it's unpleasant at all. but then i wonder what other JLC gareth likes apart from the Killers remix?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I challenge anyone to find any way in which any Stereophonics song could be made great without every trace of the original being removed from it

they won a few people back last year with 'Dakota'. not quite me though. was there a 'Dakota' remix? I imagine JLC could work his formula very well on that.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

oh let us not speak of the 'Dakota' debacle, I blame racistjustice entirely for it! that song was NO BETTER than the usual dreadfulness.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

'which makes the un-songful Confessions On A Dance Floor something of an anomaly, and weird to listen to, because unlike the remixes where the song came first it's very obvious that the production came first."

Ha ha I was discussing precisely this point with my friend Catherine last night! The Madonna songs sound more like dance tracks with sampled vocals than JLC's remixes do!

"oh let us not speak of the 'Dakota' debacle, I blame racistjustice entirely for it! that song was NO BETTER than the usual dreadfulness. "

Oh no I liked "Dakota", am I racist?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

hmm lots of action on here lately

as for new music (!!!) I've just noticed that Annie Mac played something potentially very interesting earlier on tonight:

Armand Van Helden - Sugar (Paper Faces Remix)

not heard it yet as i missed the show but we can all use the listen again feature to check it out. will listen tomorrow on my lunch break.

go here for the tracklistings of her radio show:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/anniemac/tracklistings.shtml
(also check out the Aquasky mini-mix - theres like 150 tracks in 5 minutes!)

as far as i'm aware theres now (excluding the coldplay mix) 3 new JLC mixes to look forward to:

Madonna - Let It Will Be (Paper Faces Remix)
Madonna - Sorry (Man With Guitar Remix)
Armand Van Helden - Sugar (Paper Faces Remix)

cbithell05, Friday, 27 January 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

the Lu Cont one has leaked and it is absolutely gorgeous

manuel (manuel), Friday, 27 January 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0UYPK8Y7R08V12BGMSE2I7R6BP

manuel (manuel), Friday, 27 January 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

I can understand where most Stefani haters are coming from but I mostly feel profound pity for them!

You have no idea. Live out here for a while and find your tune changing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 January 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I'd hear "Cool" more. And "Hollaback Girl" less.

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 27 January 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha I was discussing precisely this point with my friend Catherine last night! The Madonna songs sound more like dance tracks with sampled vocals than JLC's remixes do!

...and the JLC remixes of them will probably sound more like proper songs! The bizarre thing is how little it matters when you're listening.

Oh no I liked "Dakota", am I racist?

no, just wrong! (racistjustice is still racist though.) Tim this is the first time our tastes have diverged :(

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 27 January 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha Lex you haven't seen the half of my indie closet.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

my favorite bit of Talk = that whooshing noise that comes in just as he kicks it up yet another emotional notch for the final minute

its like standing in front of a jetliner as it takes off

this is what trance should have been

lu cont is a genius. he just painted his masterpiece

bugged out, Saturday, 28 January 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

Tim you haven't seen mine, either.

The Coldplay remix, like the Starsailor one, would be incredible if it didn't have those unbearable vocals left on.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 28 January 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

my favorite bit of Talk = that whooshing noise that comes in just as he kicks it up yet another emotional notch for the final minute
its like standing in front of a jetliner as it takes off

this is what trance should have been

lu cont is a genius. he just painted his masterpiece
There's a similar bit in the Royksopp remix with a couple of minutes to go. Shivers down my spine every time.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Saturday, 28 January 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

The Coldplay remix, like the Starsailor one, would be incredible if it didn't have those unbearable vocals left on.

no, it would be just another dance track. lu cont's skill with vocals is what sets him apart. he's epic, coldplay's epic, he redeems them musically, they fit each other perfectly.

bugged out, Saturday, 28 January 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

really just don't understand this:
"it has things like peaks, troughs, tension and release, and sonic texture, not this relentless driving thing jlc goes for"

If anything I'd see it as the reverse - JLC invents peaks and troughs that weren't there in the original, and the pomp-eighties keyboard sound interests me more than the Killers standard (if pleasant) guitar attack. Also I think it's one of JLC's least "relentless driving" remixes ever!

what i mean by texture is, i suppose, juxtaposition of textures whci the original has and jlc does not -- the '80s keyboards are in there, with the guitars, i don't think you've actually heard it tbh! and as someone else mentioned somewhere, the vocal line just *doesn't work* in the remix because of jlc's smoothing out of the peaks 'n' troughs. i'm w. steve on this i think.

but apparently that's big beat guilt for you and the fact i'm underwhelmed by jlc (and i've made an effort, honest miss) is just an index of how i don;t get the bigger picture, i think.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Madonna - Let It Will Be (Paper Faces mix)

OMG!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 12 February 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

is the version posted to YSI #9 distorted or is it supposed to sound like that? sounds like it was recorded way into the red.

biz, Sunday, 12 February 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

"what i mean by texture is, i suppose, juxtaposition of textures whci the original has and jlc does not -- the '80s keyboards are in there, with the guitars, i don't think you've actually heard it tbh! and as someone else mentioned somewhere, the vocal line just *doesn't work* in the remix because of jlc's smoothing out of the peaks 'n' troughs. i'm w. steve on this i think."

The vocals sound so boring on the original! So much more interesting and nuanced on the remix! JLC even manages to give the repeated sole verse entirely different meanings by varying the musical backing! Now I wonder if you've heard the right remix (as I understand it there's a shorter and inferior version of it). Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 13 February 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

yes: Killers Jacques Lu Cont mix = lame
Killers Thin White Duke mix = tits.

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 13 February 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know which one i have.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Monday, 13 February 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

the crap one's about five minutes, and the nice one's about eight minutes.

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 13 February 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

oh, mine's about 8 i think. i guess we'll have to disagree on this.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Monday, 13 February 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get all the excitement about the "Talk" remix, definitely a nice track, but it's a bit cookie-cutter by his standards.

About the Killers remixes, four versions are around:

TWD Mix (the well-known one)
TWD Dub (the "other" one)
TWD Short Version (an shortened edit of the Mix)
TWD Short Version With Intro (as above + the synthy intro from the long Mix)

Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 13 February 2006 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

That version of Madonna - Let it Will Be (Paper Faces Remix) is a dodgy rip from a promo cd/vinyl & its all distorted. HOPEFULLY thats not how it sounded on the original promo & HOPEFULLY for gods sake someone at warners record company realises this in time for the actual single release or there will be a lot of angry Madonna & JLC fans around! lol

cbithell, Monday, 13 February 2006 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, this may be me just being stupid/lazy.... but I recently heard the Coldplay remix on Zane (sycophantic wanker) Lowe's show and I really want to download it to send to my mate in China (can't get on the BBC website in China! I know from personal experience!)... and also want to hear some of these other remixes, seeing as they seem to have sparked so much debate!!!

Any ideas where I can find them? I read about halfway down this thred looking for a link for them and, having not found one, just got damn bored! so if anyone can help i'd be really grateful!!

nice one!

Tom Coulton, Monday, 13 February 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Someone recently reposted a link to the Talk mix on the YSI thread.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
Is there any love for Jacques' new Texas remix? I find it a bit hard to get past the vocals... and the tune is a bit crap. (It's called "What About Us".)

JoB (JoB), Thursday, 9 March 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

he's remixed texas? dear god there is such a thing as taking the sow's ear thing TOO FAR (coldplay was worse though)

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

rockist

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

no-one ever mentions "man with guitar", do they? that is a belter, that one. even if it is three years old or whatever. it is like the prototype for juliet's "avalon", sans diva vocal but with added crazy synth wig-out.

electrogrouse (haitch), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'd put the best of Texas and Coldplay on about the same level of creativity actually. Which isn't overpraising or (knee-jerk) overhating either of them I'd hope.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Can anybody share this Texas remix?

Matt Sephton (emsef), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

good that we finally found a GIRL with guitar you can hate though Lex ;)

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

(j/k! I'm glad nobody pays much attention to me on this board, I'd hate to have to be constantly defending some caricature people had created of me in threads all the time)

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

The song Texas did with Gregg Alexander was terrific! And Say What You Want isn't bad either.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Inner Smile was almost fantastic. Shame Sharleen's probably too set in her ways to be JLC's next Juliet or Madonna really 'cos I could imagine her being better at it than either of them.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

shudder

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 9 March 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

is jacques going to appear with peter kay or what-have-you?

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 9 March 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

i think texas have a couple of good songs! i mean both those good songs are literally note-for-note steals from better (and REALLY FAMOUS) songs, but 'say what you want' and the one which is basically tlc's 'creep' are ok. but they were, like, yearz ago.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

sharleen spiteri is a dreadful woman though. i blame her for the popularity of all those 'tasteful' people like k melua, rhyming slang blunt, et al, she is their spiritual forebear. her and the imbruglia woman.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

in the pub the other week, we thought a jlc remix of the cardigans lovefool, might be a good idea

what is a less good idea, but, it came into my head this morning on the bus, and, really, i dont want to have to bear this alone, but

i sort of imagined, in my head

a thomas bangalter remix of

that james blunt song, youre beautiful

i mean, you know how it would go, right?

im sorry about this

terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

its sick and wrong isnt it? but, you can see it, i know you can

terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I want to erase the last ten minutes so that I wouldn't have this vision in my head. It's driving me crazy!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 11 March 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Gareth, the harm you have inadvertantly wrought. :-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

I think there's some really excellent non-singles on Texas' The Hush (especially "Tell Me The Answer") and "Inner Smile" is totally fun. Can't wait to hear the JLC mix.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=137EPFY8XQNMX3U4RQJV17DTRP

Dirty Job (JoB), Sunday, 12 March 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome, JCL takes on sophisto-dance! I'm imagining people in tuxedos and evening gowns dancing to it. Unfortunately many of them are too cool to break a sweat.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 12 March 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

Err, JLC.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 12 March 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

ahh they're all coming out the woodwork now, im pretty sure he played a work in progress version of this texas track at fabric. like it when the vocals come in but its not the best thing hes done. still a good mix though. thanks for the file! i'm still waiting for another one of his remixes he played that that had his signature style all over it. cant remember now how it went apart from it having an extremely catchy bassline & putting a big smile on our faces. Hoping it surfaces soon in some form or another.

cbithell05, Monday, 13 March 2006 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

sugar is pretty fab

bugged out, Monday, 13 March 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

Jetsteam (JLC Dub) is awesome !

MR-PIOPIO, Monday, 13 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
The JLC mix of "What About Us" is wonderful. It is, as I said to my friend Tim the other day, totally Ice-Age Mammoth. It's a particularly impressive feat (as ever with Mr Price), given that the original sounds like Dido on valium - some pretty synth sounds, but nothing you would call 'arresting'. The opening of the Jacques lu Cont mix, however, sounds like the soundtrack to a great sweeping shot of an arctic landscape: huge, shattering ice blocks falling into the sea, spectacular tundra - an image taken from a helicopter flying over a land before time, a time before humans, when everything was gargantuan...

Tim makes the claim that the remix is actually a trance track. I want to hear more about this - Tim Finney to thread!

Catherine Ryan (and so this is catherine), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

It is totally a trance track, but then again most 2006 house I hear appears to be sneaking trance in through the back door.

The thing that sets it apart is the BIG DRUMS, which I swear are louder than any other JLC remix.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

Catherine it's not really trance but a lot of trancey dance-pop has sounded like this in the past... although others here will have to help me with examples as my mind is shamefully blanking. I guess Jam & Spoon's "Right In The Night" is the great ancestor. Chicane's track with Lisa Gerrard from about 98/99 is in the same ballpark too.

I guess where this differs slightly from the pop-trance that was big circa 6/7 years ago (and its off-spring still lurking on Nova playlists today) is that that stuff was mostly very straightforwardly riffish, very much music that could easily be reproduced as ringtones (I'm thinking Alice Deejay's "Better Off Alone", although mentioning that track is unfair b/c it was basically the worst that pop-trance of that era had to offer). Whereas as you'd expect from a JLC remix this is more about the overall atmospheric juggernaut. But those cool synth melodies are totally trance, as are all the build-ups and breakdowns. And the wispy meaningless female vox sample. And its general vibe of serious euro austerity. My favourite thing about it though is that little oriental riff in the second-half, and then it all comes back so HEAVY.

Matt's right about the drums... and about the strange omnipresence of trance affectations at the moment. Catherine I will have to put Booka Shade's "In White Room" onto a CD for you. The Tiga "Out of the Trance Closet" remix of LCD Soundsystem's "Tribulations" is relevant too.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

(btw "cool synth melodies" as in COLD!)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

anyone heard anything of the 2 new madonna remixes hes done?

"i love new york (thin white duke remix)"
cant wait for this one as the original album version sounds itself like a poppy Thin White Duke mix

& "get together (jacques lu cont remix)"
which could also be quite tasty

cbithell, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

As much as it pains me to say it, the best word to describe those two mixes is probably "unsatisfying". This could just be his yearly downswing, though - he started off both last year and 2004 with a retardedly classic indie-rock rescue job, then kinda slipped into a non-essential fugue until resurfacing in the fall with a fistful of batshit electro craziness. (Richard X managed to fill the dead space quite nicely both years, btw)

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

Has anybody heard the new Arthur Baker tune featuring Tim Wheeler of Ash? It's like a poor man's JLC remix

Matt Sephton (emsef), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=H988D6XD

http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=OO293M4Q

Enjoy !

Mr-PIOPIO, Friday, 7 April 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry to bring things back to Texas but that remix is really wonderful. Catherine right on with the "arctic landscape" description, I myself was picturing some post-apoctolyptic nuclear winter type setting.

I'm thinking that the supposed Astralwerks remix compilation (if compiled wisely) would probably be the best "Greatest Hits"-style collection ever.

gaseous (gaseous), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

Wow I finally listened to the original version of Talk and feel like I now truly apprehend the breathtaking scale of JLC's genius

(And I already thought it was pretty large-scale)

Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

Why didn't anyone tell me there were two remixes of What Else Is There? I'd only heard the shorter, slightly dull fuzz-bass one and not the 8min absolutely glorious French house one. I think the latter might just have surpassed Lose Control as my favourite JLC remix.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

I've not heard the short version, care to upload it? The long version has the most spine tingling crescendo I've ever heard. Gets me every time.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

agree it's one of his best. i even like his remix better than trentemoeller's (which may be blasphemy round these parts).

friendship7, Friday, 21 April 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't know there were two JLC mixes of the Royksopp.

I take it his remix of Depeche Mode's 'A Pain That I'm Used To' is not noteworthy then?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I like it quite a lot but some of those Paper Facey blank surge-type tracks tend to blend into one another. Actually this would probably apply to the "Talk" remix too if it didn't seem so perverse having Chris Martin's vocals all over it. Whereas we're more used to hearing Dave Gahan in a dance remix context (speaking of which, how fucking savvy are DM at picking remixers these days! Michael Mayer, Misc, Motor, Jacques Lu Cont, James Holden, Metope...)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Moby's also been pretty savvy as of late with his remixers.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I really dislike that Holden remix... I haven't heard the JLC one but I'm not sure why anyone would want to listen to a house remix with Dave Gahan's voice on these days. It just sounds like an instrument designed to drag records down. Whereas Chris Martin's has always sounded like he's going "look at me! I'm uplifting!" without the musical backing to really make it work.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 21 April 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Matt have you heard the Holden dub? Agreed the normal remix ain't so good. I can't remember the vocals on the JLC remix being too noticable actually, perhaps because JLC has worked with vaguely similar vocalists before. Gahan's deliberate politeness on "Precious" works really well on Misc's nasty remix though!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 22 April 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

I need to hear that Nasty remix

Json Bate, Saturday, 22 April 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
been a bit quiet on here lately, anyone smelt any new remixes in the air? and whens that texas single out??

cbithell, Sunday, 14 May 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

3 July

JoB (JoB), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

"Out of the Trance Closet"

haha

Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 14 May 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

I have his remix for New Order "i told you so" (Stuart Price mix) But it's more like a ZootWoman track (It reminds me Calmer).

Mr-PIOPIO, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Hi,

Oh dear. 'Let It Will Be (Paper Faces Remix) - Madonna' ... it's horribly distorted. :( And this is from the CD ! What is going on with the audio industry these days ? Have they all been replaced by chimps ?

Proof that record companies don't listen to their output. They're only interested in the damn money.

How can something like this get to release stage ? I'm disgusted. The irony for me is that I bet I could find a better version of this track by illegal downloading .. probably.

Note to all audio engineers : digital clipping is BAD. NO-ONE WANTS IT. Analogue distortion CAN sometimes be good. Remember your training !

Thanks all.

Chenz.

Chenz, Thursday, 1 June 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
What has Stuart been up to lately?

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Keane remix PROBABLY

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

c'mon he must have SOME standards.

2manyROFLs (haitch), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Lol @ the keane remix idea...

No, hes produced Madonna's confessions 2006 world tour & hes currently on that with her. thought everyone knew that!

As far as remixings concerned hes probably not up to much at the moment although he BADLY needs to do a remix of the new Muse single "Starlight" out in a month or two... Check it out if you havent already.

Oh and some girl he knows called Bee Hatherley has temporarily replaced him in Zoot Woman whilst he's on tour with Madge...

cbithell05 (cbithell05), Friday, 7 July 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I love Stuart Price (JLC) and I first saw him on a documentary on c4 called Im going to tell you a secret, For you who dont know, it was a documentary about Madonnas reinvention tour. His character grabbed me. I wanted to know more about him so i researched stuart madonna and soon stumbled across his name stuart price and many of his aliases. And so it began, the piecing of his story. I soon found out he was the man behind lrd and that famous car ad. I started to listen to his remixes and then I came across his band Zoot woman. I listened to that and started to realises the amount of work he has actually done. His child hood story is one of twists and may have been glamourised by a certain label to gain some lime light. His lrd album was seen as ahead of its time and zoot woman seems to have success but isnt well known. Anyway, all this lead to inspiration and ive started the long trail to the top where he is and oh my word its a long one. I stumbled across this forum and i love it and the support you people give as well so a thanks there. I would like your support. Ive started music producing and i am a long way off but you got to start some where. If you get time please visit www.myspace.com/jacquesdeuxmusic and listen to the tunes. They arent the 80's revival tunes, they are electro house french type tunes but due to my resources its all i can produce at the moment but i hope to recreate what he did so i need your support. I welcome suggestions 100% and please realise that i am 17 years of age so i have a lot of work ahead as i hav been producing for about 6 months and about 99% of that has been learning how to produce. Please take a look and have a listen, add me if you have myspace and drop me some comments.

Many thanks JLC fans :)

Jacques Deux (Jacques Deux), Sunday, 9 July 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
His Scissor Sisters remix is surprisingly non-cringe inducing.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 08:59 (eighteen years ago)

....he's referring to the new Paper Faces remix of Scissor Sisters - I Dont Feel Like Dancing & yeah once again its quite special.

All these Scissor Sisters remixes (Adam & him have done a Paper Faces mix of every Sisters single bar 'Take Your Mama' - oh and plus the production he did on that new order/ana matronic collaboration)makes me wonder whether hes had a hand in producing their upcoming album...

Chris B (cbithell05), Monday, 7 August 2006 08:34 (eighteen years ago)

I would be perfectly happy for him to produce the whole thing.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 7 August 2006 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

Ugh, that would be horrible.

Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 7 August 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

like Madonna's vocals?

/troll

fandango (fandango), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...
fair play to him for working with madonna but i wish he'd finish the tour already and get back into his attic. That and the Fabric DJ booth. Anyone know whats going on with Zoot Woman? Bee Hatherley has damn near replaced him on bass these days...

Chris B (cbithell05), Saturday, 9 September 2006 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

They're playing here (Netherlands) next month, so I'm guessing/hoping there's new material coming up sometime soon.

willem -- (willem), Saturday, 9 September 2006 06:36 (eighteen years ago)

i want new les rythmes digitales. anyone know if this will ever happen?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Saturday, 9 September 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

Thre's new lu cont remixes for the killers "when you were young". three versions: 1) When You Were Young (Jacque Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Radio Edit) 2) When You Were Young (Jacque Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix) 3) When You Were Young (Jacque Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix). That's the facts.

Gregory T (tubesocks), Saturday, 9 September 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Oops third one is:

3) When You Were Young (Jacque Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Dub)

Gregory T (tubesocks), Saturday, 9 September 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Can't wait to hear the new Killers remixes.

It has to be noted that this dry patch whilst hes been on tour with Madge has been filled in quite nicely so to speak by what I'd consider to be the rest of the 'amazing remixers' elite; namely Paul Epworth aka "Phones", Switch/Solid Groove, MSTRKRFT, Alan Braxe & Fred Falke, Digitalism, The DFA, & quite a few others...

Check out Alan Braxe & Fred Falke's new remixes of 'Van She - Kelly' and 'Keith - Mona Lisa's Child'

Great stuff!

Chris B (cbithell05), Monday, 11 September 2006 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

Braxe and Falke have been on an incredible run ever since that remix of Royksopp's "49 Percent" last year. I've been particularly impressed with Falke's work, although that might be at least partially because I'd never really heard his except with Braxe.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 11 September 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

Anybody able to upload the new Killers remixes? Patiently awaiting their Springsteen influenced album, here.

Matt Sephton (emsef), Monday, 11 September 2006 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

You can find one here.

Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 07:26 (eighteen years ago)

Forget the radio edit; look on soulseek for the full remix along with the Dub.

Somewhat confusingly, Price seems to always go down a different route on his dub.. Compare the Killers Brightside & Depeche Mode dubs to the New Order Jetstream dub. Worlds apart.

The only common factor seems to be the chord arrangement which is usually more tonic and repetitive than his original remix. I've never really understood Dub remixes in the 'dance' world though, so perhaps I'm missing something. Dub to me means letting the instrumentation shine & adding some cut up word bitz via the echo chamber...

Jesus Christ though; either Madonna's given him his own mobile studio or he has the most pimped out laptop on the planet. Much respect to the man Lu Cont for coming up with the goods, even when he's on tour with Mrs Macrobiotic Veronica Ashtanga Ciccone-Ritchie 5 nights a week.

LRD, Zoot Woman, and 'Jacques Lu Cont the man who rocks Fabric' are calling his name. He is such a good solo performer, bass player, and DJ that it's only a matter of time before he responds

Chris B (cbithell05), Saturday, 16 September 2006 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...
You can see Stuart posing (badly) in the new H&M "Madonna & Crew" print adverts in girls and mens fashion mags

Matt Sephton (emsef), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:19 (eighteen years ago)

They had a billboard sized version of that poster wrapped round the side of a building here recently, and I thought they all looked pretty good to be honest - it made a nice change from the usual generic models that most clothes labels employ (I know H&M have a history of using actors etc for advertising). Mr Price was front and centre on the one I saw and gave off a "second-in-command" vibe to my mind!

Bill A (Bill A), Friday, 27 October 2006 11:39 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...
Bump

any new info on JLC remixes/productions? think he's doing the new zoot woman album & possibly some LRD stuff. his kasabian remixes that came out around christmas time are good, following a tried and tested formula but still very good...

cbithell05, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...
New mix for Gwen Stefani,4 In The Morning (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix)

Only had a couple of listens but this is already producing familiar JLC related tingling sensations in my brane and body. It's less *obvious* than the last Killers remix and all the better for it.

Bill A, Monday, 23 April 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

OMG this could be awesome.

Matt DC, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:08 (eighteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/lucontstencil.jpg

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

I love this.

Alba, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

knoxville hearts jacques lu cont

roxymuzak, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

I'm disappointed by it. It'd be hard to make such a weak Gwen song work as well as WYWF I guess.

NI, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

"Sex & Sun" is my favorite right now

deej, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 00:40 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

"calvin harris" persona is a bit of a step backwards

That one guy that quit, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

JOEK

blueski, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Harris uses an Amiga computer and OctaMED tracker software to make some of his music.

makin it harder to dislike him...

blueski, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

oh, this is him?

i liked "acceptable in the 80s"

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

no they are not the same person but presumably Harris discovered 'Darkdancer' a couple of years back and figured it might actually work now chart wise.

blueski, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Tip: listen to the Angello & Ingrosso remix of Justin Timberlake "My Love" and tell me it's not JLC.

Siegbran, Friday, 1 June 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

I got momentarily scared by the suggestion that Calvin Harris is JLC. It's nice that "Acceptable in the 80s" jacks Madonna rather than other 80s but that's the only nice thing about it and "The Greatest Hit" did that idea better.

Tim F, Saturday, 2 June 2007 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

Just a quick heads up that you know who has produced the new Seal album, out November 13th. Single out now - not sure what I think of it just yet.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,164549.shtml

emsef, Thursday, 25 October 2007 11:28 (seventeen years ago)

Good Lord.

Not sure how I feel about his remix of D.A.N.C.E - sounds like a match made in heaven but it goes a bit wrong after the first couple of minutes. He's discovered the scuzzy blog house noise and I'm not convinced it's the path he should be going down.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 October 2007 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

Just listening to the album and it's cheese central. Not impressed.

emsef, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 00:38 (seventeen years ago)

The Seal album, I mean.

emsef, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 00:39 (seventeen years ago)

I actually like it. It's like the dreams you have that night after listening to Confessions on a Dancefloor.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 00:41 (seventeen years ago)

i think the dance remix is great

s1ocki, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 01:36 (seventeen years ago)

definitely not what i expected, nor the way id have wanted him to go, but im kind of addicted to it.

s1ocki, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

he's produced the *SEAL* album??

pisces, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

INCOMING! New Zoot Woman

http://www.popjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1976&Itemid=206

With new - female - band member!

emsef, Sunday, 9 December 2007 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, and also - according to wikipedia (Stuart Price and Killers articles):

"in an interview with Pete Tong on BBC Radio One, Stuart Price confirmed that he would be producing at least part of The Killers' third studio album."

Oh my, yes please!

emsef, Sunday, 9 December 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago)

four weeks pass...

man that coldplay remix still bangs

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 04:27 (seventeen years ago)

Yep.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2008 04:31 (seventeen years ago)

if jlc must remix indie, i think joanna newsom's voice and melodies would be fucking awesome in an electro setting. also ariel pink!

-- The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:48 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

..........

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

in response to him remixing COLDPLAY

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

wish lex was still around to weigh in one the timbaland/onerepublic remix with bun b & lil wayne

and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

so true about coldplay remix. EPIC.

s1ocki, Monday, 7 January 2008 06:23 (seventeen years ago)

my favorite is still gwen but the remix of 'sex and sun' is cool for being kind of singular w/in his regular style

deej, Monday, 7 January 2008 06:23 (seventeen years ago)

felix rmx still all-time hall-of-fame.

s1ocki, Monday, 7 January 2008 06:30 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Dude is producing the Killers album according to 6music right now. My god, I'm suddenly actually looking forward to it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

i'm still enjoying his dance mix of Seal's 'Amazing' - the other Seal album tracks didn't sound so hot

blueski, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 15:35 (seventeen years ago)

sex and SUNNNNN

deej, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

Dude is producing the Killers album according to 6music right now. My god, I'm suddenly actually looking forward to it.

if this is for real and not an april fool's joke I fully expect this to be my favorite album of this year.

jamescobo, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 15:55 (seventeen years ago)

ITS WHERE I LONG TO BEEEEEEEEEE

deej, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

jacque lu cont mix of dance is dope as fuckbut i never need to hear the little kid vocals ever again does anybody have a dub/instrumental?

and what, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

lost classic is the paper faces remix of zoot woman's automatic

and what, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

i onbly have the vocal mixes. which i love, it's awesome when the kids come back in at like the 7min or so mark

s1ocki, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

Dude is producing the Killers album according to 6music right now. My god, I'm suddenly actually looking forward to it.

if this is for real and not an april fool's joke I fully expect this to be my favorite album of this year.

-- jamescobo, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 15:55 (36 minutes ago) Link

this is the type of move i thought the killers should have done for their second album...they squandered a perfect opportunity to be the one cool rock band you could dance to

if this is true I'm EXCITED

Preview of the Matrix 12, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

he's producing the keane album too
i laughed when i first heard that but then i heard the amazing (!!!) brian eno produced coldplay track VIVA LA VIDA and i'm really excited now to see if stuart can better it.
actually does anyone reckon viva la vida sounds a more than a bit Lu Cont? he HAS to do a remix of it !!

cbithell05, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

he's already remixed coldplay once, and that worked out pretty damn fine.

mark e, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Really looking forward to the new Killers album give this news, and also interested to hear he's behind the new Keane album as I thought their first track off that was really rather good

emsef, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 14:24 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

hes also done the frankmusik album and some of the tracks from the innerpartysystem album

+ 2 new remixes...
Coldplay - Viva La Vida (Thin White Duke Remix)
Frankmusik - 3 Little Words (Paper Faces Remix)

anyone heard these yet?

cbithell05, Sunday, 26 October 2008 03:57 (sixteen years ago)

So what do folks think about "Human"? I completely dismissed it upon initial listen. But this thread has made me listen again a few times and I'm starting to think it may actually capture that Killers+Lu Cont magic.

matt2, Sunday, 26 October 2008 05:11 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

I don't know about wrong, but those Killers and Keane albums were not terribly right. Methinks Madonna spoiled the guy (both figuratively and literally), but hopefully the guy has spent all his money on equipment, not drugs, and plans to come back swinging. I mean, that "Wrong" remix is OK, but he can do better.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 May 2009 12:45 (sixteen years ago)

He hasn't done anything particularly good since Confessions on a Dancefloor, although maybe the great Coldplay mix was after that. He had a longer and more prolific purple patch than most though.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 May 2009 12:51 (sixteen years ago)

great OP

s1ocki, Saturday, 2 May 2009 16:57 (sixteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/lucontstencil.jpg

I passed this same building just today! <3

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Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Monday, 4 May 2009 00:23 (sixteen years ago)

Still amazing.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Monday, 4 May 2009 00:23 (sixteen years ago)

R...E...M...I...X

we know gay coop (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 May 2009 00:35 (sixteen years ago)

coldplay mix def came out after the madonna record. nothing since has even come near the quality, 'cept maybe the 'D.A.N.C.E.' remix.

golden period mixtape:

'from: disco to: disco' rmx
'hey you what's that sound'
'jacques your body'
'silver screen shower scene' rmx
'miss you' rmx
'payback time' rmx
'danger! high voltage' rmx
'the conductor' rmx
'man with guitar'
'four to the floor' rmx
'just let go' rmx
'what you waiting for?' rmx
'mr. brightside' rmx
'avalon' rmx
'hung up'
'talk' rmx

juniper jazz (haitch), Monday, 4 May 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

challop: i always preferred the other mixes of that royksopp track

juniper jazz (haitch), Monday, 4 May 2009 01:02 (sixteen years ago)

xp hott mix, he truly has so much good stuff, i may have said this before but a single disc of his greatest remixes might be the best comp of the decade

QE II, Monday, 4 May 2009 01:06 (sixteen years ago)

still haven't heard new zoot woman. is he still with them?

QE II, Monday, 4 May 2009 01:07 (sixteen years ago)

i thought he was them

we know gay coop (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 May 2009 01:08 (sixteen years ago)

it was him and two other dudes when they started.. now i think there's a 4th member?

QE II, Monday, 4 May 2009 01:35 (sixteen years ago)

Finally he's back, the remix for Friendly Fires is remarkable.

kaiser, Monday, 4 May 2009 08:13 (sixteen years ago)

The Kevorkian Dub mix of Talk narrowly beats the JLC mix for me. Don't know waht it is about that song, pretty mediocre in it's original form but turns into gold when somebody else gets hold of it.

featuring Strawberry and the Shortcakes (Billy Dods), Monday, 4 May 2009 08:30 (sixteen years ago)

In some sense, isn't the Coldplay "original" something of a remix itself?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 May 2009 11:58 (sixteen years ago)

?

we know gay coop (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 May 2009 11:58 (sixteen years ago)

bcz of kraftwerk i guess

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Monday, 4 May 2009 12:00 (sixteen years ago)

thats not a remix

we know gay coop (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 May 2009 12:00 (sixteen years ago)

in a sense we are all remixes. in a very real sense god is like a remix.

Local Garda, Monday, 4 May 2009 12:04 (sixteen years ago)

god is the master tape. we are all 128kbps mp3 copies of that master tape, posted on blogs

juniper jazz (haitch), Monday, 4 May 2009 12:15 (sixteen years ago)

With viruses.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 May 2009 12:53 (sixteen years ago)

challop: i always preferred the other mixes of that royksopp track

That's not really a challop - the Trentemoller remix of Royksopp knocks almost everything JLC has done into a cocked hat.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Monday, 4 May 2009 13:54 (sixteen years ago)

no way, that's not even trentemoller's best remix.

jlc felix remix is above and beyond most everything...

Local Garda, Monday, 4 May 2009 13:57 (sixteen years ago)

haitch's otherwise a+ golden period mixtape is missing his mix of missy & ciara's 'lose control' which may well be my actual favourite

what's the best trentemøller rmx if not 'what else is there?' ronan?

lex pretend, Monday, 4 May 2009 14:03 (sixteen years ago)

unai-oh you and i (trentemoller mix) is my favourite...can't find it on youtube or spotify...

Local Garda, Monday, 4 May 2009 14:12 (sixteen years ago)

http://open.spotify.com/track/4bhV7lK7p24eAb7TFArcM9

actually there it is, mixed with what sounds like extrawelt on the way in and something else on the way out

Local Garda, Monday, 4 May 2009 14:14 (sixteen years ago)

helped by the fact the original is also better, actually kind of a blueprint for the royksopp one imo

Local Garda, Monday, 4 May 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)

Trentemoeller's Robyn mix is also pretty good. I hear he's got a mix of Seven Nation Army that makes motherfuckers' headz cave in and shit.

also to return to the subject at hand, JLC's mix of the Friendly Fires' "Cool in the Pool" is being hailed as some sort of return but I ain't buying it. the best thing he's produced since that Coldplay mix is easily Frankmusik's "3 Little Words".

jamescobo, Monday, 4 May 2009 16:24 (sixteen years ago)

love 'Jump In The Pool' but hoping he's slowed it down a bit while empthasising the euphoric chord patterns and the lush synth voices more. it's a v obvious choice of track for him to do his typical thing tho.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Monday, 4 May 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)

Haha it sounds almost exactly like that, lush and warm and euphoric and slowbuilding. He does something very nice with carnival drums at the end, looping them throughout. It's a really good track.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Monday, 4 May 2009 16:40 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks to James for pointing out its existence, I didn't know about it.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Monday, 4 May 2009 16:41 (sixteen years ago)

He keeps all the best bits of the song in and kind of puts them in different places, the enormous swell with the "keep breathing, keep searching, keep holding on" bit and the big drum smashes is all present and correct but just made bigger.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Monday, 4 May 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

JLC produced Frankmusik? I had no idea.

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Monday, 4 May 2009 16:51 (sixteen years ago)

friendly fires seems to inspire really great remixes.

my favourite jlc remix is of britney's "breathe on me"! so good. (was also gonna rep for his mix of new order's jetstream but then realized the one i was thinking of was by richard x. whoops.)

Roz, Monday, 4 May 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

I think he produced Frankmusik's entire last EP, but I'm certain he at least produced "3 Little Words".

jamescobo, Monday, 4 May 2009 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

yes, "breathe on me" is awesome

we know gay coop (roxymuzak), Friday, 8 May 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

bit disappointed with the FF remix in the end but maybe just because i really do like the original

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 8 May 2009 20:29 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

Have to say that the Frankmusik album is just glorious (a couple of duds) and sounds almost entirely like a new LRD album.

emsef, Friday, 14 August 2009 10:47 (fifteen years ago)

His Sneaky Sound System remix is glorious.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 August 2009 10:57 (fifteen years ago)

paper faces remix of fdh isn't up to much

NI, Friday, 14 August 2009 11:09 (fifteen years ago)

the first two tracks off the FM album sound like LRD, the rest gets weaker as it goes on which is a shame. I wonder what happened between the EPs and the album?

emsef, Friday, 14 August 2009 12:08 (fifteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jul/15/robbie-williams-rejoins-take-that1

They secretly wrote and recorded six songs that became the foundation for the forthcoming album, produced by Stuart Price.

piscesx, Thursday, 15 July 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sure this will be up to the consistently high standard we've all come to expect from Stuart Price since Confessions on a Dancefloor.

Matt DC, Thursday, 15 July 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)

For many, Take That were the original template for boyband success.

This isn't the first place I've seen that claim, and maybe it's just a Britisher-centric observation, but New Edition and New Kids on the Block both came before them and were pretty successful the world over iirc.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 15 July 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)

mm. well in fact original manager NM Smith based TT on NKOTB in the first place. the original advert for band members actually said 'dancers wanted for Britain's answer to New Kids..' or words to that effect.

piscesx, Thursday, 15 July 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

op here
still love this tonight... only 4 bars of every song = perfection.
and no one does the start-to-finish strings remixes (felix, even starsailor)

give me new jlc!
or alternatively, what went wrong? besides becoming a proper producer

le hague, Saturday, 1 January 2011 13:52 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

Still hoping for a compilation of his career-peak remixes to turn up at some point...

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Friday, 22 April 2011 12:48 (fourteen years ago)

nine months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3SNTpZdFhwo

ayyy

MPx4A, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

really not feeling the new stuff. too justice.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

would have been huge for me in 2006. still like it. i suppose that's an endorsement.

le hague, Sunday, 12 February 2012 05:08 (thirteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

https://soundcloud.com/tiga/tiga-plush-jacques-lu-cont-4

Woah when he decide to go all ravey again? This is great.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 January 2013 18:56 (twelve years ago)

Nice.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 January 2013 19:00 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

i'm in an i hate fun mood, but this is winning me over a bit.
https://soundcloud.com/tracques/tracques-album-sampler

andrew m., Friday, 26 April 2013 01:31 (twelve years ago)

lunartick put me in the mind of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp48QzSerT8

andrew m., Friday, 26 April 2013 01:34 (twelve years ago)

not quite as dramatic tho

andrew m., Friday, 26 April 2013 01:36 (twelve years ago)

anyway, yeah, this tracques is a cut above

andrew m., Friday, 26 April 2013 01:39 (twelve years ago)

four years pass...

i've suddenly had to listen to the mr brightside remix every day for the last week

mookieproof, Friday, 29 December 2017 23:30 (seven years ago)


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