Cosloy vs. ex-intern FITE!

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This strange saga inexplicably sucked up about an hour of my day yesterday. Dive in!

Who's sane and who's unhinged? You make the call!!!

― ianinportland (ianinportland), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

would be the greatest movie script ever.

― seahorse genius (seahorse genius), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, man, Gerard's point that this person's initial approach never explained who they were, or even that they were an intern at some point, kinda clinches it. If a random band I'd never heard of wanted to be my friend I'd ignore it too. And the intern getting all huffy about a random MySpace tentacle getting ignored = DUD. Obviously I am biased and inclined towards Gerard, but it still seems corny.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I think Cosloy actually comes off far better in that whole exchange (I totally understand him not wanting to be Myspace friends with a band he's never heard) -- although he'd come off even better if he walked away from it all after the first tussle.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

i was SO hoping this would be an HSTENCIL thrd.

― ddb (ddb), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

i went to message gc on myspace and discovered he had disappeared from my list..assuming as usual that i am hated in th indie rock community i emailed him directly and he informed me of his ms suicide and i thus equally sucked into th strange and hilarious saga,all th dirt is on here..http://fuckyoupayme.blogspot.com/

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

Where's Russ?

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

i totally agree with drew and jaymc. gc needs to stop appearing in everyone's comment boxes (it looks a little desperate - this is a myspace account request we're dealing with after all), but he's basically right. the girl wasn't even HIS intern!

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

Gerard seems nothing but perfectly reasonable throughout the initial exchange. TOTAL corny indie fuckitude from this silly Teeter person. Publishing private email exchange on your blog? Fat jokes?

And seriously, how lame is this 'Jessica Hopper' person? remind me why I'm supposed to care who the fuck she is again?

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

u must check out Teeters fake band on pure volume..Ley Royal Scam

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

jessica's a really good writer but she's completely off the mark here.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

i don't have time right now to read this BUT....

dude, if somebody wants you to add them as a myspace friend, who cares? add away! half the time "adding" a person or a band is more an homage... like i don't know get hustle, but get hustle is a my space friend of my band... i just dig get hustle. plain and simple.

will we all be judged by our myspace pages when jesus comes to save us from raccoon aliens?
m.

― msp (msp), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

Wait, wasn't Jessica Hopper that infamous "fake riot grrrl" that went on tv talk show all the time early 90s?
What did Dylan say abou this type? "I wan't to set fire to these people".

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

HOLLA AT LOMBARDI...HE'S SO MUCH COOLER

― ddb (ddb), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

BUT STAY AWAY FROM HIS WIFE....;)

― ddb (ddb), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

I always liked "the guy from doormat".

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Mark P's right about Hopper. I like her blog, and the few published pieces I've read by her have an uncommon panache, but I don't know what she's doing taking sides in this thing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

MAYBE SHE VIEWS COSLOY AS A FATHER-FIGURE THAT MUST BE TOPPLED, EXPOSED AND DESTROYED, REALITY BE DAMNED!!! RIOT!!!

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

everybody needs a good nonsense internet scandal once in a while. this reminds me of the time mr. fr33dom from verbally duked it out with mr. krs on a certain mailing list. yeah, that was weird.

jjj, are you threatened by toppler-type women? (TS: topplers vs. topless?!?)
m.

― msp (msp), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

Its almost as good as the EL P vs Scott Seward war that erupted when he dissed th lp in th voice..he got dezeath threatszx and shiozxt

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

please tell me that actually happened.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)

(not the death threats, just the war. i love scott.)

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)

xypost:
I lived in Oly, WA during the "RIOT" and barely escaped with my Rolling Stones records. A certain type there was always quick to identify men w/ authority as "fuckers".
That said, I'm usually attracted to the "toppler" type, topless or not. This is part of the divine balance.

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh it happened..EL P dissed his wife and got into it as only a e-ed out white rapper can when dissed in print..Im sure he will regale u w gorys shortly.

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

heres th original review pre fatwa http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0228,seward,36351,22.html

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

What was the beef between S Moon and Mr. Fr33dom Fr0m?

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

I GOT INTO ONCE WITH S. M00N ONCE, THAT GUY IS PRICKISH x 1000000

― ddb (ddb), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

by once i mean ONCE

― ddb (ddb), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

i think teeter's intial request was reasonable [hi i used to intern for your business, please add my band] and gerard's response in which he declined was equally reasonable.

everything else after that is just ridiculousness -- teeter really shouldnt have acted like the spasmatron 3000 and gerard should have just deleted / ignored any of her responses.

regardless, he still comes off as a class act.

but what fascinates me even more: who knew that mark ibold of pavement used the internet? i mean, *everyone* uses the internet so i shouldnt be surprised, but i just am.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

mark is th only member of pavement who has shopped in my basement and actually bought stuff,,talk about class act..i was hungry that day

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

"Oh it happened..EL P dissed his wife and got into it as only a e-ed out white rapper can when dissed in print..Im sure he will regale u w gorys shortly."

I've seen the original review, but I never heard about the fallout. Is El-P's dissing anywhere? Did Scott respond?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

oh my god, scott's review is MENTAL!

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

there was a defjux website where they vowed great personal harm

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

IBOLD PWNS. DOODISH IN SO MANY WAYS.

― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

EL-P IS COOL TOO, HIS....U FAGGOT LIKE SPROCKETS, MOTHER FUCK THE HOUSTON ROCKETS....GOT ME THRU SOME TUFF TIMES....SCOTT S3WARD IS ALSO A BROPHY...KEEP IT UP LADS.

― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

Drew is pretty much OTM (at the top there). Although, i think part of me thinks GC thrives a bit on his acerbic sense of humor when he's on a roll, hence him not dropping the issue right away. I'm really puzzled why JH really cared about this, unless Teeter was one of her homegirls or something(?). Teeter sounds like an extremely grating parasatic personality to me.

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

parasitic even

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

I FORGOT TO MENTION, I GOT ONE OF THOSE JON SPENCER PRIZE PACKS...(I SOLD IT)...BUT THX TEETER.

― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

i know from experience that gc does not like to be unfairly portrayed,he has no problem w valid truxx,but when they start attacking things that are clearly off bounds fangs abounds

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

"i think teeter's intial request was reasonable [hi i used to intern for your business, please add my band] and gerard's response in which he declined was equally reasonable."

Maria - Thing is, if I'm following this correctly, Teeter did not identify herself as a former intern until after she had been rebuffed. That little detail makes her response to said rebuff a bit less reasonable in my mind.

― ianinportland (ianinportland), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

dan, thats perfectly understandable. we cant always send a lawyer out each time someone slanders us.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

and the amazing zeal gerard has w a keyboard is unequalled...im startled often that he can run a company w offices in 3 cities,take a billion phone calls,listen to crappy demos,and cross post on a million blogs at once..all th while being funny and incisive and sarcastic

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

Anybody who has read the liner notes to the Pavement reissues shouldn't be too shocked by all the GC jibes/comments everywhere.. Gerard Can't Be Stopped (*insert Geto Boys parody cover here*)

None of this touches the Simon Reynolds/Franki Bones throwdown though... hahahahahahaha.

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

ian - weird, i read FYPM and from what i could read [small type + atrocious spelling/language = comprehension death] it seemed like teeter introduced herself.

GC did no wrong, introduction or not.

the larger issue at hand is that sites like myspace/friendster/etc don't allow you to specify what your relationship to a person is. its too black and white for a situation that is a huge gray area. you're either a friend, or you're not. id like to see these websites start incorporating tags, so that people know how you're related to each other [tags like "friend", "family", "former classmate", "accquaintance", etc] and spare people the drama of situations like GC's.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

i dont as a rule add anyone who is in a crap band..except my own crap band

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

dan, on my personal account im choosy like that. on plain parade's account -- whatever. we probably linked to hitler without paying attention.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

oh sure hitler..hes ok in my book

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

well, we'd say no to hitler. but you get the gist of what im saying, right?

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

oh..i just added him..damn

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

i get a lot of bands from th midwest that are godawful..i notice that the fake bunnybrains dont have any such filter..so maybe there is a use for them after all

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

does anyone remembre the time gerard got into a spat with some hack from the nme and ran rings round him? classic, classic, classic.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

Dear Dan Bunnybrain:

Thank you so much for your request to add me as your friend on MySpace. However, due to the large amount of requests I receive to be virtual friends with many worthwhile applicants as yourself, I must suspend adding you to my list for the time being. I will certainly reconsider the addition in a future date. Or you can simply remind me in a time frame no less than six months from now. Thank you very much for considering me, and I really wish you the best of friends. :)

Adolf Hitler

― Adolf Hitler, Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

I can totally identify with GC. I don't 'myspace', I 'friendster' but I only ask people to be my friendster if I have some sort of real connection to them which is why you won't find 'larry hagman' or 'portland' or somesuch goofiness clogging my list of friendsters. Not to say that people who do that are goofy or wrong, it's just that I see that stuff as clutter (and it looks like Gerard does too) and I choose to keep my friendster a bit neater than that.
I've also never been in a position where someone who is not a friend has asked to be my friendster so I might very well buckle under the pressure of 'not making waves' in that case... Hopefully though, I'll be able to say 'no thanks' in as polite a manner as Gerard did.

― ianinportland (ianinportland), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

Dan, do you have teh G@ys in teh Military ?? They are my peeps.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

but anyway, I interned for Touch & Go in the early 90s and there is no way I'd, like, randomly message Corey Rusk, let alone randomly message *without any kind of indentification*. And even if I *did* it certainly wouldn't bother me if he declined. Yeesh, what an attention grab.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

you cant be in a gg allin backing band called NY Superscum and not learn any pugilist skills..gerard taught gg where to put th soup spoon

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

gays in th military dont like me cuz i cancelled a show last year at u of chicago..they went and booked bunnybrains88 and i told them i had nuthin to do w 88 and they told me that maybe at least that incarnation would show up..so i guess i lost 2 fans or sumthing

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

If yoo luv gerard so much, dan, y don't yoo marry him???? hahahahahah!!!

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

aw shit, Dan, I didn't know that story. Well that sucks.

we can still be friends!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

does anyone remembre the time gerard got into a spat with some hack from the nme and ran rings round him? classic, classic, classic.

-- stirmonster (jd_twitc...), February 16th, 2005 4:35 PM.

haha, I DO!!!

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

uhoh scott is up from his pabst nap

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

i interned for insound but anytime ive ever contacted someone from there, ive *always* started it off by mentioning that i used to work for them -- even if they know me. its just polite.

btw, insound and matador used the same post office and we'd frequently run into their employees there. perhaps i met this teeter.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

This Teeter sounds like a real fuck-stick.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

link to the gerard / nme spat!

Also: the liner notes to Matador's 15th anniversary CD are fucking hilarious- there's a really gnarly exchange in there that keeps on and on . . .

Also: Teeter yacking about lots of other Matador peeps who are unrelated to her spat with Gerard online = serious DUD

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

like all of you guys defending mr. whinosaurus rex should like totally just go play othello or some other el dorko role playing fantasy game on your ex boxes fer shure omg.

― Fuck Off Envy Me, Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

and th fact that shes ageist just irritates us grampas

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

A round of Othello sounds really fun right about now. Or maybe Settlers of Catan . . .

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

like all of you guys defending mr. whinosaurus rex should like totally just go play othello or some other el dorko role playing fantasy game on your ex boxes fer shure omg.

I THINK I WILL THANKS!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know if the Ley Royal Scam album has leaked yet? After all this buzz, I can't wait to get it! I just hope it's better than that Teeter and the Fuck-Sticks CD; the only good songs on that one were the singles... Total disappointment.

― ianinportland (ianinportland), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

Also: Teeter yacking about lots of other Matador peeps who are unrelated to her spat with Gerard online = serious DUD

OTM OTM OTM OTM. for real.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

ian -- it leaked immediately after the new spoon record! ha. [sorry, feeble attempt to combine today's news.]

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

Is Teeter really Marissa Marchant incognito?

― ianinportland (ianinportland), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

and to think this is what gerard could have been basking in right now..http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:uSqN4dtopSQJ:www.purevolume.com/leyroyalscam+ley+royal+scam&hl=en&client=firefox-a

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

wow, they're a philly band! now plain parade definately has to book them.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)

Hey! Count me in as an "el dorko" who's into Settlers Of Catan myself! I have witnesses here on ILX to my Catan skillz yo. (I'm actually trying to program my own version of its predecessor game Kings And Things in an attempt to teach myself C# programming)

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

and to think this is what gerard could have been basking in right now..http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:uSqN4dtopSQJ:www.purevolume.com/leyroyalscam+ley+royal+scam&hl=en&client=firefox-a

Is it the low encoding or is Teeter totally being AutoTuned to hell?

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Once GC hears "Are You Feeling My Disco," he'll have to apologize and offer Ley Royal Scam a lucrative contract.

― mike a, Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

Not that the AutoTune thing would really help or hurt.. either way...

*trying hard not to laugh*

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

This whole Gerard v. Teeter online beef is endlessly entertaining (almost nostalgic) to those of us who used to devour every issue of _Conflict_ zine.

― mike a, Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

link to the gerard / nme spat!

it was on the matador europe board which doesn't seem to exist now.

i just spent an hour following this and haven't laughed so much in ages. he's a seriously funny man and has now permanently impaired my ability to ever read the words 'rotissserie chicken' again with a straight face.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

Possibly incorrect transcription of the hard hitting Ley Royal Scam's "Who's Laughin Now"

i saw the look in your eye
i didn't think you would reply
it's been two years, we've parted ways
why did you have to ruin my day
who's laughing now

you keep spinning me like a merry-go-a-round,
I'm spinning you like a merry-go-round (round)

I waited two years for you
you never came to win me back
I want to stand in for you
a curve hits by love's baseball bat (???)
who's laughing now

you keep spinning me like a merry-go-a-round,
I'm spinning you like a merry-go-round (round)

*soft piano bit than unforeseen sloppy fade back into..*

you keep spinning me like a merry-go-a-round,
I'm spinning you like a merry-go-round (round)

Wow, huh huh.

If Avril sounded more Barbie-esque and used the "Sk8ter Boi" production on all her songs, this approximates the band's sound a bit.

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

I experienced Conflict nostalgia reading about this, too.

If this is supposed to be some kind of catalog of quarrels -- I remember Cosloy's letters to MRR denying that GG pissed on his leg, and also an angry missive to Spin after Thurston Moore including some material there Gerard had written on a supposedly semi-private email list.

If only this kind of information counted on Jeopardy.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

I can't wait to hear the Cam'Ron's Foreskin

― this one goes out to mr gerard cosloy, Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

i want the ten minutes of my life i wasted reading these fucking my-first-internet-diaries back plz.

― eman (eman), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

This thread turned out to be SO much better than what I was afraid it'd become. ILM, you're swell. The plus side out of all this: when I think of rotisserie chicken, I smile.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

jjj,

topplers vs. topless... divine balance... nice!

mr ff was just being his usual provocative self and said some things that offended mr krs's feminist sensibilities... that and one person howling about "pavement sucking" and a lot of other goofy things that were instantly forgettable... it was like tigger vs. gertrude stein ...

dan, i have bunnybrains 88 on my myspace friends list... what say you wanna add my crappy band to your friends list?

― msp (msp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:46 (twenty years ago)

ah grandma

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

If someone tells you "I AM NOT A COLLECTOR" or "I AM NOT A JAPAN-O-PHILE", they are probably lying.

RED PANDAS are funny.

The cutest dog in the world is called MR WINKLE.

MYSPACE is a site for "hoochies that want to hook up".

DRUNK GIRLS are the art of PRETEND HOMOPHOBIA.

-- .ada.m. (adamr...) (webmail), January 21st, 2005 1:17 AM. (nordicskilla) (link) (admin)

― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

http://home.comcast.net/~jefframirez/gygaxtoad.jpg

― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

http://www.trackteam.org/users/krud/googleberries.jpg

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

PWNED!!

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

photoshop in a rotisserie chikn!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe this hasn't been posted:

http://community.middlebury.edu/~mobrien/covers/Matador%20of%20Shame.gif

― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.allthingschristie.com/archives/kennyRogers.jpg

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)

CONTROVERSSIAL 0th3r Mu51c Update WITCH caused HURRIED mTgS held in M4t4t0R officez:

On the new Interpol album much of the ardent cathexis on hand could be said to frequently succumb to an outright lambency. Also improved is the singer's zinc prosody, in that while it can occasionally veer toward the almost logorrheic, this detracts from it only slightly...well, not too much at all actually on this one. That was just at a few points on the last record.

Anyhow, there's a song on Antics called "Take You On a Cruise." Something more like I would want to personally hear from a guitar-driven band these days. It treats the lyrical ellipses and mordant scope of its subject matter as an opportunity to revel in general, confident sway. It might not end up being considered one of the standout songs, but it is indeed allusive of their story: quondam relegated-to-afterthought-by-the-auto-jaded band renewed by, of all things, the process of recording (a proven band-killer in their field).

Surmount the field they have done, but it is with an increasing dexterity. To the degree to where they are perhaps achieving an unmatched air about perhaps even their own expectations for the music. Again this is not the kind of thing rock bands are engaging in much these days: searching for where ambition meets grace. Some who almost appear to then seem to lose their nerve, or break up during recording/touring, and actually with most who cares as they just suck really bad INNA TEENAGER STYLEE. Interpol are now, somewhat shockingly, in a position to show how this can be done right. And they're American! And on Matador, of course. [DHo]

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

This Teeter sounds like a real fuck-stick.

In her defense, she does look like a crazier (and older) Margot Kidder.

― Vic Funk, Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

"Surmount the field they have done, but it is with an increasing dexterity."

has somebody been visiting that old post-modern generator site thingy?
m.

― msp (msp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

link to the gerard / nme spat!

Unfortunately, it's long since disappeared from the Internet. The best I can offer you is the Internet Archives, which only gives you the subject headings (scroll down to Jan 11), but you sorta get a feel for it.

― Vic Funk, Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

http://www.kcomposite.com/12/images/teeter01a_01.jpg
http://www.kcomposite.com/12/images/teeter01a_03.jpg

http://www.spiritualityhealth.com/shimages/film/napoleondynamitelrg3.jpg

― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

The hell?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

well, it was about time this thread got Jonathanwilliamsed, anyway.

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

Actually I was commenting on the whole thread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

I AM SO OTM

― Fat Anarchy on Airtube (ex machina), Thursday, 17 February 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

All those "yr"s are so irritating. Why do people still write like that?

Anyway, Mark Ibold is so cute. And what a sexy band name!

― Guitarthur and the Ecstasy Defecators (Arthur), Thursday, 17 February 2005 06:07 (twenty years ago)

If you don't know about the madwoman archetype in music, you will.

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 17 February 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

All those "yr"s are so irritating. Why do people still write like that?

but it leads up to cosloy's coinage of "tard-bonics" which is a zing and a half.

― eman (eman), Thursday, 17 February 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)

Ha! I missed that part.

― Guitarthur and the Ecstasy Defecators (Arthur), Thursday, 17 February 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

Seriously! TARD-BONICS is the single GREATEST THING ANYONE HAS WRITTEN ON TEH INTERNET evah! GC, um, "big up ya chess"!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 17 February 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

Teeter complains sumplace that she is compared to Tina Yothers..more to follow?

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I still can't deal w/her being 28

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 17 February 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Wow, all this because Gerard doesn't think she's a *friend*.

― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Are they sure she wasn't born in '46 instead of '76?

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Don't you mean 96 etc

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I dont mean that, sorry. I really doubt there're any nineyearold Riot Grrls.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I thought you meant 1896!

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

i predict they will actually become internet friends.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

i know a 9 yr old riot grrl
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/90/61/381609/8513705311381l.jpg

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

her hair is all dreaded and wack,she can skateboard like a fiend and she knows all th words to every bikini kill song..Teeter is granny bait in comparison

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Record her, I tell you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

I normally wouldn't rag on people for looking old, but I just find it funny that someone writes like a 12 yr old that's been held back a couple of years in school and who is picking on others for being old looks kind of elderly.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure if Vic Funk's link is the real Teeter, though (although I have no authority to tell or judge, myself.) Then again, I'm guessing she doesn't look like either of the young girls in her blogspot icon either.

She certainly wants to SOUND like a 12 year old girl in her "fake" band though.

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

so roffly! My favorite is the "oh i had to take all the promos to prince street p.o. boo hoo." NEXT TIME REALIZE UPS PICKS UP TWICE A DAY, DUMMY.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 February 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

now i respect GC even more.
teeter's a whiny prick

― joan vich (joan vich), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

but anyway, I interned for Touch & Go in the early 90s and there is no way I'd, like, randomly message Corey Rusk, let alone randomly message *without any kind of indentification*.

Serious. I doubt Jim and Anthony at Minty Fresh even remember me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

NEXT TIME REALIZE UPS PICKS UP TWICE A DAY, DUMMY.

In her defense (and this is pointed out in the comments of GC's blog), it was during the UPS strike of Aug 1997.

I'm not sure if Vic Funk's link is the real Teeter, though

In my defense, there's probably not too many women born in 1976 named Teeter Sperber.

― Vic Funk, Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

Hey Gang -

Thanks a million for all the posi feedback! Needless to say, none of us imagined the Gerard Myspace request would have spun out into a full-on blogosphere super war, or that people would fixate on my 'unique' stranglehold on the english language. That said, it's done and it was exhausting, although, for all parties, a chance to verbalize some incredibly funny sentiments. Snaps to Gerard for being so quick on the draw.

I'm actually 22 yrs old, that interview was intentionally misleading, I am indeed a good skateboarder and in the songs of my fake band and in speaking voice, I do sound like a chipmunk and have never been able to help it.

Sorry for all the ill-will shooting my way, but such is life, I can take it - seeing as I did inadvertantly bring it on.

Never be able to look at Rotisserie Chicken the same, f'reals -
Teeter Sperber

― Teeter Sperber, Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

So you were 14 years old when you had to haul those promos to the post office?

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

In her defense (and this is pointed out in the comments of GC's blog), it was during the UPS strike of Aug 1997.

VIC LEARN TO READ IT WAS ME WHO WROTE THAT. I was the retail intern in Aug. '97, and carried a big bag of promo mailings to Prince Street in the heat. Guess what? I lived.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 February 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)

VIC LEARN TO READ IT WAS ME WHO WROTE THAT.

Sorry d00d. I read the four different blogs that this spat was going on across at the same time, and the names in the comments sections became a blur (the "tard-bonics" didn't help matters with keeping shit str8).

I was the retail intern in Aug. '97, and carried a big bag of promo mailings to Prince Street in the heat. Guess what? I lived.

In her defense, you weren't a 14 year old girl at the time.

― Vic Funk, Friday, 18 February 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

aw, she's lost her punch now

― joan vich (joan vich), Friday, 18 February 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

I love that there is now a blog comments box on the Internet with posts by Gerard Cosloy, Jessica Hopper, Mark Ibold, Steve Albini, and Matthew Fluxblog!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

that isn't actually mark ibold, and i doubt it's steve albini.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Aww :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

How do you know? Hopper's blog seems to indicate it's Albini, unless I really can't tell all of the jokes hidden under these posts.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

1. because i talked to mr. ibold about the "intern controversy" saturday and he didn't know what i was talking about.
2. because i know that mr. albini, if he has time to dick around on the internet, he usually confines it to here, and he usually confines his activity to, like, baseball and recording equipment and fake italian.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Ah, that's good enough for me. Here is where I will now say that I once had a pleasant conversation with Mr. Ibold as he was unloading equipment before a show in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Nice dude.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

yes, he is a nice dude, and a good tipper.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

it was pretty obvious that wasn't mark ibold. and the albini poser was using an albini persona from the late 80s.

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Jandek is a "friend" of my band on Myspace! I saw him, put in the request and he approved it!!! NICE GUY!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

B&S, Interpol Soundtrack Baseball Video Game

Matthew Solarski reports:
What is it with indie rock and baseball? White Sox and Cubs hats abound among Chicagoland gig-goers, Insound harbors a borderline neurotic obsession with "Steady" Eddie Murray, and right at this very moment the P-fork brass are agonizing over Fantasy League picks. I mean, bats and guitars are similarly phallic and all, but so are badminton racquets. So what is it? Maybe we all evolved from feverishly collecting Topps and Donruss to feverishly collecting Sub Pop and Matador?

In any case, our baseball lives and our indie rock lives are about to collide in a big way, as 2K Sports unleashes Major League Baseball 2K6 this April. In addition to your typical mind-incinerating graphics, the multi-platform video game features in-game music courtesy of upstanding indie faves like Interpol, Pavement, Guided by Voices, Mogwai, and Belle and Sebastian.

That's a hearty sampling of Matador Records fare, although a few non-Matty acts made the cut as well. Here's a complete list of the artists getting their MLB on: Bear Vs Shark, Belle and Sebastian, Cornelius, DJ Spooky, Early Man, Green Carnation, Guided By Voices, Interpol, Mogwai, Pavement, Preston School of Industry, Stephen Malkmus, Pretty Girls Make Graves, the Double, the Fall of Troy, and Yo La Tengo.

According to Matador, the label simply licensed the songs to 2K after securing artist permission, so don't expect any new tunes or elaborate soundtrack cross-promotions. Also don't expect the ridiculously apropos Belle and Sebastian song "Piazza, New York Catcher", as that little ditty appears 2003's Dear Catastrophe Waitress, put out by Rough Trade and not Matador. Bummer, dudes.

* MLB2K6: http://www.2ksports.com/games/mlb2k6/

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

What is it with indie rock and baseball?

BakedBeanTeeth to thread?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

probably not the best thread to revive, jaymc.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Why's that? My commentary on the news item is solely in my choice of which thread to revive.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Eric Carr dominates P4K fantasy ball.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

nevermind, then.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Eric Carr doesn't still write for PFM, does he? I met him at a Broken Social Scene show once.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Alas, the original "Strnage Saga" link at the top is dead, and I missed this whole affair. But I did meet the woman in question when she was putting on some shows at Northsix maybe 5 or 6 years ago and she was really nice.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe we all evolved from feverishly collecting Topps and Donruss to feverishly collecting Sub Pop and Matador?

guilty as charged.

― meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

No Mendoza Line no credibility.

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Please note that I am the reigning P4K fantastic baisbol champeen, and am currently wearing my championship Neighborhoodie.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

damn, I was about to order a BALCO All-Stars hoodie for my live draft next week, but it would be almost $70.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.kcomposite.com/12/images/teeter01a_01.jpg
http://www.kcomposite.com/12/images/teeter01a_03.jpg

― blog beef, Saturday, 25 March 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

for those tuning in late:

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/index.php?p=1048
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:y2W65bjdgqAJ:tiny.abstractdynamics.org/archives/2005_02.html+tinylucky+mailbag+Gerard&hl=en
http://www.fredflare.com/diary/31cornlane.php?xid=d81377afa97e9820bfbd8b32db03fb09

― blog beef, Saturday, 25 March 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

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