― Tom, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Patrick, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― jel, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ally, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Pihkal Boy, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Uncut is better - has better writers and an overall less stuffy outlook. They need to cut down the amount of 'Americana' though, and they seem to fall for any singer songwriter who comes along (Slaid Cleaves, Eileen Rose, Jim White -no thanks). We could do without coverage of Neil Young's every fart, too. That said, I have to say it's great as Mr. Jones the esteemed editor and doyen of rock journos is a neighbour and we use the same fish and chip shop. OK - no more namedropping in future.
― Dr. C, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Uncut covers more of what I like but in a True Path Of Rebel Rock way I find increasingly rubbish. Too much mythology, not enough insight.
― Andy, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Omar, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ally C, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Take the March issue for example. Though it has a disturbing amount of space devoted to ELP and a wretch inducingly hideous front cover, there is a really fantastic article on the Pixies by David Cavanagh. It is worth buying just for that, though I did feel embarassed buying it.
― Nicole, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― alex thomson, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Duane Zarakov, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― D.Zarakov, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tom, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
But on other occasions when covering people I like, Mojo pull it off magnificently. The Gainsbourg piece was the last such example.
Tom and Dr C are right about Uncut, I think. Half the time it's fascinating (Reynolds's Kid A thinkpiece, Paul Morley's everlasting way with the language, Chris Roberts making even the hackwork of the film soundtracks roundup read as though he's taking the utmost pleasure from the whole thing), but often you feel as though those involved should get out a little more and stop thinking Americana and singer-songwriters are, like, timeless and worth covering in perpetuity. It's all Jonesy's fault, of course. I could rerun some of Taylor Parkes's jokes about Jones spending most of his spare time roaming the prairie but actually knowing so little that he thought a Jimmy Nail track was by Mark Eitzel, etc., but you've probably got the idea.
I think there'd be a consensus round here about who the good and the bad Uncut writers are. And the bad ones would be those who would fit best into Mojo.
― Robin Carmody, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Whatever I may have thought of Mojo, I've never considered it to be nauseatingly smug and self-satisfied as Q is. Q, after all, is edited by the sort of people who jack it all in to write scripts for EastEnders.
Anyway let me spring to the defence of Allan Jones. I think it's to his credit that he's managed to put together so many interesting writers (Penman, McDonald, Morley, Stubbs, Roberts) on one journal. For that we should let him have the odd Waylon Jennings interview.
Does anyone else find Nigel "5 stars" Williamson as unintentionally funny as I do. Is there an artist or genre that this man does NOT like? He seems to give everything from Spooky Tooth to Sade the same cheerily favourable review.
― Dr. C, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
"Anyway let me spring to the defence of Allan Jones."
Oh, I wasn't trying to criticise him - I think even the MM writers who took the piss had a respect for him, and an admiration for him; he wrote hardly at all for the Maker in his last few years there, and he was probably wise to adopt a background role, but he's clearly the sort of person who knows how to hold the thing together (more than he actually knew the music it was covering by then), and he mercifully steered it away from dumbed-down discourse, tacky features and flagwaving during his last 3 years there (when such things were already a disease over at the NME). Jones was the sort of editor whose importance you didn't realise until he left; the speed of the MM's decline immediately after his departure in March 97 proves that, and I'm ultimately prepared to forgive him however many dodgy things he may like. Reynolds excepted, you've listed all the "good" Uncut writers I was thinking of.
"Does anyone else find Nigel '5 stars' Williamson as unintentionally funny as I do"
He was the sort of "bad" Uncut writer I was thinking of. Dreadfully gushing writing and horribly retrogressive tastes for the most part. Uncut's bland dadrock downside.
― Robin Carmody, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Question: How come all the obsessive mags like this come out of the U.K.? Are there ANY American mags that cover music in the manner of a Mojo? I honestly can't think of one. Somebody point me in the right direction.
― Mark Richardson, Saturday, 10 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Nicole, Saturday, 10 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
DUD!!!
― Marcos, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― mark emsley, Tuesday, 13 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Mark, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― scott p., Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― George Gosset, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
But the long historical pieces I do find useful, especially when regarding acts/artists about whose history I feel I ought to know more, e.g. Patto or ELO.
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tom, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Billy Dods, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― desmond abladey, Monday, 22 May 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Monday, 22 May 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link
As great as The Beatles, David Bowie, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan and Neil Young are, there is still a limit to how much new stuff you are able to dig out about them.
Which makes Mojo more interesting because they aren't afraid to do a feature on Gerry & The Pacemakers, The Moody Blues, The Animals, Pete Seeger or David Crosby instead.
Plus Mojo does actually attempt to turn their (mainly 30-40-50 something) readers into more recent stuff too, that is, recent stuff that Mojo finds good (and the Mojo staff has a considerably broader taste in recent music compared to the Americana crazed Uncut staff)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Stevie Chick does get some good bands in Mojo(and Kerrang too).I suppose having read Mojo for years now ive read about every band they cover. If they stopped repeating themselves and covered some more obscure acts I either haven't read much about/or heard of, i might buy. Then again would that sell?
Its time they gave Parliament/Funkadelic a front cover and just devoted the entire magazine to them and all the spin offs. That would make great reading.
Someone should write a really good pfunk book.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link
(I speak from the perspective of someone who for two years unsuccessfully lobbied U***t to give Todd Rundgren the front cover and 30 pages inside)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 07:00 (eighteen years ago) link
4-5 Public EnemyEvens Beastie Boys7-4 Outkast 2-1 Eminem4-1 Wu Tang Clan (Up from 5-1)8-1 Jay Z 12-1 50 Cent (down from 8-1)15-1 Run DMC/LL Cool J40-1 Dizzee Rascal50-1 bar
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Odds to appear on the front cover
Wire 20-1Throwing Muses 40-1The Stranglers 75-1Underworld 100-1King Crimson 200-1Killing Joke 250-1The Associates 400-1The Chameleons 500-1Rush 1000-1Porcupine Tree 10,000-1
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Nick Hornby - evens
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Again that's the problem about funk/hip-hop fans. Your extreme intolerance towards anything that is not funk/hip-hop/R&B related.
Mojo have never devoted their entire magazine to one single genre, and never will. They have done funk specials, and they will again. They have also done hip-hop specials, and the likelyness of Mojo putting Public Enemy on their front page is way bigger than the likeliness of Mixmag or Kingsize putting Coldplay on their front page. Who who is the most intolerant here?
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Daddy you're a fool to cry....
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link
weirdly, i wouldn't have thought that would be a tough pitch there - isn't paul lester a huge Todd fan?
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link
As for Todd Rundgren, you would have been more likely to succeed with Mojo. Select usually prefer "safe" cover stories.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link
You couldn't get a huger Todd fan than PL. But neither of us was able to get past Jonesey Customs...
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:20 (eighteen years ago) link
And, btw. they have yet to make a "Mind Games" special, a "Tug Of War" special, a "Flowers In The Dirt" special or a "Cloud Nine" special. All of those were way better albums than "Plastic Ono Band".
There is an inhouse rule in Select that if they are ever to do a cover story of a more obscure act, it will always have to be some Americana act. :)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Where is Duke Ellingham Swing Band band?
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link
But I guess they are sort of too narrow for the Mojo readership. Whenever they do keyboard based 80s music they do something a bit broader and more commercial.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:01 (eighteen years ago) link
The quality of an album has no bearing on whether the story behind it is interesting or not.
I guess it's unlikely Duran*2 will ever aquiesce to do a 'making of' "Thank You" special, but hey it must have been interesting making a totally rub* album.
*received wisdom, haven't heared any of it.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, Les Harvey.
― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Geir's reply is the funniest thing I've ever read on here by him.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Sometime in the future a hip-hop band will sample that piano riff on clocks.
x-post
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link
But didnt some hip-hop/RnB bands do a phil collins tribute?
In a hip-hop style. Doing it in Collins' original style would have been very unlikely.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link
That just doesn't count. When will a hip-hop band do a cover of "Clocks" that contain every single verse sung from the beginning to the end, containing absolutely no rap parts, and with a backing track containing all the chords of the original, over a straight 4/4-beat?
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Then the brilliant "A Trick Of The Tail" and "Wind And Wuthering" albums would never have happened. (And as for his 80s solo work, it cannot compare to the brilliance of the 70s Genesis stuff, but it is at least a lot better than anything ever released in the hip-hop genre)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link
When will Coldplay, Travis, Keane cover rap songs while actually rapping instead of singing?
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Geir Hongro
http://images.google.co.uk/images?svnum=10&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official_s&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=nme+cover+coldplay&spell=1
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link
meanwhile nominations are in for this year's MOJO Honourshttp://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/article570939.ece
The nominations
Best New Act
Corinne Bailey Rae
Guillemots
Amadou and Mariam
Teddy Thompson
Archie Bronson Outfit
The Raconteurs
Inspiration Award
Sparks
Johnny Cash
Buzzcocks
Paul Weller
The Fall
Icon
David Bowie
Scott Walker
Neil Young
Van Morrison
Songwriter Award
Joe Strummer
Richard Hawley
Nick Cave
Chrissie Hynde
Kate Bush
Catalogue Release of the Year
Johnny Cash: Legend
Talking Heads: Reissue Series
Orange Juice: The Glasgow School
Various: Anthems in Eden
Various: Strangely Strange But Oddly Normal
Jeff Wayne: War of the Worlds
Vision Award
Kraftwerk: Minimum-Maximum
Bob Dylan: No Direction Home
Ramones: The Story of the Ramones
Dig! [documentary on the Dandy Warhols and the Brian Jonestown Massacre]
The Flaming Lips: The Fearless Freaks
Mayor of the Sunset Strip [documentary on the history of fame]
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― FACEBRACE (FACEBRACE), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link
the stax CD comp that comes with the amy winehouse cover is pretty awesome.
the article about her is "okay" i felt bad for the writer cuz he was supposed to have a big interview with her than she has a meltdown and he's gotta do the story anyway.
i haven't read the stax feature but it will probably be cool cuz it's about stax.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
also had a buried treasure about some band called Home that was a weirdo/roots-rock/prog/concept album deal that featured cliff richard from AC/DC!
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Cliff WIlliams??
― Bill Magill, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
duh haha yeah williams not the elvis of england dude
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Hahaha!
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 14 January 2008 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I thought you might have meant Cliff Burton.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 14 January 2008 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm sorry, I'm off to the paralell universe that has Cliff Richard of AC/DC in it!
― Mark G, Monday, 14 January 2008 23:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Mojo is still a quality mag, but it's about time the CD coming with the mag contains some decent music soon.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link
the free CD's with mojo are the best reason to buy it
― Michael B, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually they have done a pretty good historical job with those CDs lately. The only thing lacking now is that they choose some good genres to make CDs from. They write about a lot of great genres, so I am sure it'll happen...
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i used to wonder what james brown had to do to get on the cover of mojo. apparently dying wasn't enough. when he was given the mojo honors lifetime achievement award, the cover went to jimmy page, winner of the far-more-coveted best dvd award.
― Lawrence the Looter, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:27 (sixteen years ago) link
The Heavy Nuggets thing is awesome. Thanks Mojo.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Was that the one before the Amy Winehouse/Stax one?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link
yes.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I bought it today, for the electronica CD on the cover. John Foxx! Gary Numan! Tangerine Dream! Great stuff.
― Neil S, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link
this month's free CD is great..comp of old school Ska and Reggae stuff.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link
That's last months, UK dudes.
This months is a Paul Weller gets someone to pick stuff that they reckons Paul Weller probably thinks is endemic to what Paul Weller is all about, plus three Paul Weller Rarities. (being: One cover version of one of his very first songs that he never recorde dwith The Jam, one etc...)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link
well it's new to me! but yeah i guess we are late.
i don't really like the specials that much but i really enjoyed the article about them a lot.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Just reading "SKa'd for Life" Horace Panter's book, he the bassman of the specials.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Updated (2008) odds for the first hip-hop act to get a full Mojo front cover:
4-5 Beastie Boys (up from evens) evens Public Enemy (down from 4-5) 3-1 Kanye West 4-1 Wu Tang Clan 5-1 Outkast (down from 7-4) 6-1 Eminem (down from 2-1) 8-1 Jay Z 20-1 50 Cent (down from 12-1) 25-1 Run DMC/LL Cool J (down from 20-1) 33-1 T-Pain/Li'l Wayne 40-1 Dizzee Rascal 50-1 bar
I fancy a punt on Jay-Z, especially if he pulls off Glastonbury.
― Billy Dods, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
probably won't be wu-tang because they just did a big feature on them recently that pretty much covered everything...
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Yep, but they managed to prove to themselves that they can cover rap and do it interestingly.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Mojo hardly ever features new acts on the cover.
If Mojo ever put rap on the front it's gonna be "canonical" stuff like Public Enemy or De La or something. Maybe in five years time 36 Chambers will be some sort of fogey rock-crit classic, who knows?
― Bodrick III, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm unloading about 23kg of Mojos from the mid-late 1990s. I'm going to dump them all on eBay, but if there's anyone here looking for fills drop me an email - I'd rather folks here got first dibs.
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 10 January 2009 05:27 (fifteen years ago) link
will swap 8lb 4oz of UNCUTs?
― schlump, Saturday, 10 January 2009 05:55 (fifteen years ago) link
i've been trying to give away my deadweight of mojos for ages now.free to anyone - collection basis only.issue 45 onwards with one missing (richie edwards cover, ended up in river avon)
― mark e, Saturday, 10 January 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
One thing I absolutely love Love LOVE about Mojo: The layout. You can read the whole thing cover-to-cover and not have to do any backtracking. They print each story IN FULL and don't start the next one til the previous one is finished - none of this infuriating "Continued on page 83" nonsense like you'll find in "Rolling Stone" or other inferior rags.
I don't know if this admirable approach is Mojo-specific, or if it's typical of other UK magazines (music or otherwise). Either way, it earns my approval. If only other magazines (newspapers even) could follow their example...
― Random trolling, brutal snubs, darted zings & decisive bans (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 September 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, i have the opposite experience. the only US mag i read with any regularity is Wired and the 'continued..' thing in that bugs me silly (especially when the continued piece is less than a full page or if the continued bit is itself continued)
(Wired has recently felt like it's 50% adverts. there used to be a lot but recently they've been more noticeable, probably because they switched to the right hand page of each spread. that and the bloody stiff pages they insert, normally for things like cigarettes made by native americans, stuff i couldn't buy even if i wanted to.) (offtopic!)
― koogs, Friday, 18 September 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
cigarettes made by native americans
LOL!
― Hobocamp, Friday, 18 September 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
currently selling my mojo archive for a wallte busting 99p : (#45 > #195)so had to clear them out of the attic.quite interesting to see the gradual change in the magazines layout also, it really drives home just how few women are given cover status.out of the 150 issues, only 5 have been by women guesses for the 4 that have been awarded this status most welcome (one woman was granted the priviledge twice)may have to count up the total of beatles/related covers just to see ..
― mark e, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 08:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Kate Bush, Joni Mitchell, Aretha Franklin, Tiffany.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 08:54 (thirteen years ago) link
kate bush : correct #111, #145
― mark e, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Debbie Harry was a cover for an NYC punk package, wasn't she? And that was that bizarre Amy Winehouse cover story a couple of years ago ..
― ithappens, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:05 (thirteen years ago) link
ithappens hits the spot :
debbie harry : #63amy winehouse : #170
so, who's the last one ..
― mark e, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Mo Tucker?
Hang on: Yoko!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:17 (thirteen years ago) link
actually, thats a good point re yoko.
but dont recall seeing her gracing one amongst the pile i have
i could have sworn she did !
unless that the one that ended up in bristol harbour.
― mark e, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Janis?
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link
That leaves Sandy Denny and Madonna.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:23 (thirteen years ago) link
ok, she is on a cover with john.
therefore not part of this gang (solo covers)
same goes for abba.
xpost : bravo - janis .. #79
― mark e, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link
which is pretty shocking i think.
i mean it was something i was aware of, but to see the stats so black and white it really drives it home.
also, out of 150 issues, 15 of them are beatles/related (more if including oasis .. )
― mark e, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Compare it to any other British music publication of the era you'd get an equivalent percentage I reckon.
― Uncharted: Nick Drake's Fortune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:28 (thirteen years ago) link
"of the era" = back in the sixties?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link
The 60s were a lot less obnoxiously 60s-ish than the last 20 years.
― Uncharted: Nick Drake's Fortune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link
true.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link
ok, shall we do black solo artists next ?
i suspect the list will be even more limited ..
― mark e, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Michael Jackson
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link
CurtisJimi Hendrix
I might just be speaking for myself here but I reckon ILM is not short of "is the music press and its audience a bit racist?" threads.
― Uncharted: Nick Drake's Fortune (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Amazed there's not a Joni cover in there.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:42 (thirteen years ago) link
re rascist point.
i aint saying that at all. especially for mojo given the artists covered over the years.just the cover choices are always so predictable/limited.
re joni : agree.
― mark e, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link
was looking at this for the first time in forever at the newsstand the other day (ok, truth be told it was a borders, but that doesn't sound as romantic). anyhow there are some pretty good pieces in the current issue devoted to the heyday of elektra. they shoulda put a shirtless jac holzman on the cover instead of jim morrison, though
― dude (del), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link
have to admit, i had a little emotional moment as the man who got my mojo magazine archive for 99p drove away into the sunset.
― mark e, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost I dunno, all the Borders' are gorn in the UK, so...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Has Mojo just stopped doing a cover mounted cd after like a decade and whatever.Wasn't sure what to think when I saw a new edition with no cd on its front.Monkees as cover stars.,Oh yeah finally got the Album Classics set of solo Michael Nesmith cos i wanted to check my credit card was working on Tuesday morning thanks to the nonsense with 3 not topping up my phone
― Stevolende, Saturday, 15 January 2022 16:38 (two years ago) link
That used to blow my mind how magazines and sometimes newspapers in the UK had CD's in them. Especially felt that way the first time I ever visited the UK was around 2007 or 2008, when publishing was already collapsing in the U.S. I also noticed a LOT more people reading magazines and especially newspapers everywhere I went, so I guess that helps prop up the cost of doing so.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 15 January 2022 17:57 (two years ago) link
a few years ago i decided to call it quits re mojo (same stories, same bands, no longer relevant to what i listen to etc etc)so, i went online and logged into my account place, and cancelled my sub.for about 9 months after i was still getting it sent to me.do like the whole subscribers covers thing though.they are much better than the covers with all the text all over the place.also, i do miss the monthly drop through the letterbox and the quick flick through to find the odd reviews for electronic music ...
― mark e, Saturday, 15 January 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link
I think Mojo are testing the waters with regard the free cd withdrawal.
There’s a note in the mag about it, production costs, etc. Think there’ll be one next month.
But. Didn’t do Flexipop any good!
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 January 2022 08:02 (two years ago) link
right, I've just seen th ecover.Maybe the format is getting less popular. A download code or some music platform playlist might substitute but doesn't work with th eway I listen to those things. Not sure if it would get the multiple plays these things do for me .
― Stevolende, Thursday, 20 January 2022 10:36 (two years ago) link
Something that still makes me chuckle from the cover of Viz "Free Prince CD for Eddie Reader! If you are Eddie Reader, don't hesitate to contact us today to claim your FREE Prince CD"
― Fried Egg Sandwich, Thursday, 20 January 2022 12:29 (two years ago) link
I remember when Mojo didn’t always have a CD!
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 20 January 2022 14:30 (two years ago) link
I do too it's just a very long time ago. IK remember when they started being an occasional thing and normally seemed to be done quite well. Which might be why it became a standing thing
― Stevolende, Thursday, 20 January 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link
I thought the CD production costs were covered by the ludicrous amount magazines charge the artists/labels for inclusion, maybe not then
― the great replacement bus service (Matt #2), Thursday, 20 January 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link
I have kept 2x MoJo CDs, both great compilations
https://www.discogs.com/release/2088114-The-Amorphous-Androgynous-A-Monstrous-Psychedelic-Bubble-Exploding-In-Your-Mind
https://www.discogs.com/release/782404-Various-Made-In-Britain
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 20 January 2022 16:00 (two years ago) link
Yes, and also these ‘artist compiled’ jobs:
https://www.discogs.com/release/6137554-Various-Its-A-Wonderfull-Life-A-Journey-Into-Sound
https://www.discogs.com/release/2290694-Various-Step-Right-Up
Hmm, what to have as a closing track?
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 January 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link
I still have a “Drugs in Music” one from nearly 20 years ago. It came in a plastic baggie. But for the last decade or so those CDs have been not of interest to me. All those “Current Indie Bands Play ‘Revolver’” are just landfill.
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 20 January 2022 17:26 (two years ago) link
Yeah, you have to keep an eye on them for the occasional goodie.
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 January 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link
This is my all-time favorite Mojo comp, an excellent addendum to the Nuggets box:https://www.discogs.com/release/520015-Various-Instant-Garage-Music-Guide-Vol1
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 20 January 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link
i found that the best ones were the cds that stuck to a particular genre.the AA is brilliant and sits in amongst my FSOL/AA collection as opposed to in my box of Mojo freebies.also, that Instant Garage one is really good, as GMM says, totally fits with Nuggets.oh, the reggae based ones are always superb.
― mark e, Thursday, 20 January 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link
Oh those music guide ones were nice, about four of them I believe
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 January 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link
yeah, they really were.the "Raw Soul" or the "Roots of Hip Hop" one was originally meant to be a David Holmes sequenced mixtape, but problems re track clearance, meant it ended up as a standard compilation.
― mark e, Thursday, 20 January 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link
I still have several of those CDs around: Instant Garage, Raw Soul, Roots of Hip Hop, and Stax Soul Power. Had the Made in England one but let it go out in a purge.
There's a review of my book in the latest issue of Mojo, which is kinda cool if you're me.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 20 January 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link
My favourite Mojo CD is Change The Beat (14 Tracks From Madonna's New York Scene):https://www.discogs.com/release/6614131-Various-Change-The-Beat-14-Tracks-From-Madonnas-New-York-Scene
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 20 January 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link
― but also fuck you (unperson)
ooh this is very cool.bravo.going to have to try and find a copy and have a scan to figure out which review.don't have access to a WH Smiths these days (or a lunch hour !) which was always the way to check on reviews/articles without buying the magazine.
― mark e, Thursday, 20 January 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link
Clostridium
Ok, how did my spelling corrector get that word from me typing xpost?
Anyway.. message starts:
Xpost (but yes that is cool)
Yeah, that’s another mojo save cd.
I’m loathe to throw cds away (but have done) so I have a lot of the uncut/mojo cds going back. Some have sold to completion nuts (I assume) via discogs. Some have made it to my ‘keep’ boxes, most if not all of the ones mentioned so far (I think someone bought that ‘drugs in music’ one but)
Will check out others that are in the keep box…
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 January 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link
Heavy modHeavy soulheavy nuggets
Most o fthe psychedelic ones even going back to early days have been good. The stuff like the Grapefruit compis on hard rock, britfolk and things I think there's at least one New York Punk one.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 20 January 2022 20:50 (two years ago) link
Yeah I've got a handful I keep around that I like, even relatively recent ones:
In Search of Syd: MOJO Presents 15 Mind-Bending Freak-Outs!This Is A Call! (15 Brainmelting Dispatches From The Golden Age Of U.S. Alt-Rock) (despite the Foo Fighters namecheck, it's a nice little comp with The Grifters, Built to Spill, Shudder to Think, Red Red Meat)
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 January 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link
Yeah those Music Guide ones were great! Lovely cover art too; I’ve still got them and I’ve chucked out a million other free CDs.
― piscesx, Thursday, 20 January 2022 21:10 (two years ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/release/9092883-Lou-Reed-A-Life-In-Music
One track from each of his first (however many) solo albums.
Including Metal Machine Music!
― Mark G, Friday, 21 January 2022 00:36 (two years ago) link
The fave Mojo comp is The Score, an outstanding comp of movie soundtrack music.https://www.discogs.com/release/979016-Various-The-Score
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 January 2022 22:11 (two years ago) link
^ Yes, that’s one of the ones I’ve kept
― Josefa, Saturday, 22 January 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link
I missed that one!
― Mark G, Saturday, 22 January 2022 13:32 (two years ago) link
what would be nice is of this thread could be bumped every time mojo has an interesting cd on the front of it to prompt me to visit whsmiths...
Punk Nuggets this month featuring a few bands i know but no individual tracks.
but i think that one is only on the shops for a few more days - someone on Twitter posted that he already had his subscription copy of the next one, smiths cover
― koogs, Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:14 (ten months ago) link
actually, found it...
It scares the health out of me... Here we go, the full tracklisting of this month's delectable @MOJOmagazine CD. In UK shops by Tuesday; in subscribers' letterboxes already, or imminently. pic.twitter.com/O893LoeS4U— John Mulvey (@JohnRMulvey) August 12, 2023
― koogs, Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:15 (ten months ago) link
The Beatles avant garde CD looked pretty cool, but annoyingly the mailer the magazine came in split and it fell out en transit.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 12 August 2023 21:32 (ten months ago) link
Ugh, sorry
― No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 August 2023 21:43 (ten months ago) link
Note that US newsstand copies no longer have the CDs, only way you can get them in the US is with a print subscription.
― Jeff Wright, Saturday, 12 August 2023 21:59 (ten months ago) link
Completely missed that Beatles avant-garde CD. Going to have to buy it second hand now, it looks great.
This was the last one I bought on the strength of the CD https://www.discogs.com/release/15945258-Various-Escape-From-Reality-15-Baroque-N-Roll-Art-Rock-Fandangos
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 13 August 2023 06:30 (ten months ago) link
The Smiths cover posted above is now in shops so i've just bought my second copy of Mojo in 5 days
― koogs, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 08:56 (ten months ago) link
Mojo is the only mag that I still persist with, my wife used to get a copy sent to her workplace for years too.
I do enjoy reading it although if I'm honest, it's probably out of habit really as the subscriptions are very cheap and nowadays I live nowhere near decent newsagents. I don't have all of them but I've been buying it since the beginning and have a bunch stacked away in a Kallax shelf that I can reach for. I dug out an issue the other day that was made when Blur were recording The Great Escape.
I suppose they're akin to the back catalogue departments of record companies, and can keep knocking out articles about heritage acts and only filter through newer bands that they feel are in keeping with the general aesthetic rather than worrying about having to write about more modern, off-brand trends.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 09:20 (ten months ago) link
there's a smiths cover every year, a beatles cover probably every 6 months
(seemingly)
― koogs, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 10:20 (ten months ago) link
I think people still share the cd on pirate bay regularly.
― Stevo, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 10:33 (ten months ago) link
I get a digital subscription and the music is not included, unlike The Wire.
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 11:33 (ten months ago) link
Sometimes, when flicking through this at the big supermarket, the CD will fall off into my trolley and only be discovered once I have left the shop.
dardnest thing....
Last time that happened was the Grateful Dead live CD.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 13:21 (ten months ago) link
I tried that with the Bob Dylan "Blonde on Blonde"
#WhatThese2LPSOfficer?
#notreally
― Mark G, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 14:11 (ten months ago) link
Someone has been posting the monthly PDFs of the magazine to usenet since 2015. Also, they're very easy to find on slsk, just search on "mojo 2023 pdf" (or whatever year). You can find many other mags on slsk the same way.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 17 August 2023 07:31 (ten months ago) link
30th anniversary edition out now
"THIS MONTH’S COVERMOUNT CD is Buried Treasures – a compendium of tracks from the secret classic albums uncovered by MOJO’s Buried Treasures column. Features The Prisoners, R.J. McMahon, Joe Meek, Nic Jones, Connie Converse, The Beau Brummels, Third World War and more!"
didn't actually pick up a copy because the contents didn't look great, Dylan, oasis... probably more
― koogs, Sunday, 24 September 2023 13:42 (eight months ago) link
It’s a rather self indulgent issue. Includes a short article for each year of the magazine’s existence featuring the usual suspects among a bunch of articles on how great the magazine is and has been. The cover disc is pretty good though.
― treefell, Sunday, 24 September 2023 15:22 (eight months ago) link
yeah enjoyed teh cd. Still don't have it all elsewhere which just ain't it.Don't know why I don't have Third World War& hadn't heard of that closing folk track.
I keep buying magazines that I don't read all of and still intend to. Mainly reading books and not keeping up with what I'm picking up there either. May be reading more tahn I did last year still though not sure.
― Stevo, Sunday, 24 September 2023 15:29 (eight months ago) link
They've announced that starting with this 30th anniversary issue, the CDs will once again be available on international newsstand copies.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 September 2023 15:49 (eight months ago) link
my experience of working on magazines when they achieve eg their 30th is that everyone (justifably) sees it as a good excuse for a little holiday
hence all the reprinting of ancient content: it doesn't need re-copyreading or re-proofing so we have time pat ourselves properly on the back for longevity and general amazeballsness
― mark s, Sunday, 24 September 2023 15:55 (eight months ago) link
I'm still waiting on mine.
It's in the shops, but.
― Mark G, Monday, 25 September 2023 06:36 (eight months ago) link
Rolling Stones and a cd of "old weird blues"
https://images.bauerhosting.com/marketing/sites/16/2023/10/MOJO-361-cover-Rolling-Stones.jpg?auto=format&w=1200&q=80
― koogs, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:33 (seven months ago) link
Disappointing that "Bob Dylan's Secret Treasures" isn't a revelation that he's been burying caches of gold along the stops of the never-ending tour for dedicated fans to find after he's passed.
― blatherskite, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:57 (seven months ago) link
was kinda hoping the people who regularly get Mojo would update this thread on every new issue, save me having to make a special trip to whsmiths every month (or whs as it is now)
anyway, i think december's cd was a roundup of the year, featuring nobody that i can remember, and january's, which is in the shops now, is another Heavy Nuggets volume
― koogs, Sunday, 24 December 2023 17:02 (five months ago) link
I get the digital version which does not come with the cds or even a download, which I somewhat regret. I’m generally not a fan of the new stuff Mojo champions but I liked the heavy nuggets series in the past and other historical trawls.
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 24 December 2023 17:26 (five months ago) link
(December was a Beatles cover, Jan is Stevie wonder
i could just post this and then have to remember to click it once a monthhttps://www.mojo4music.com/magazine/latest-issues/ )
― koogs, Sunday, 24 December 2023 17:49 (five months ago) link
Doesn't sound completely terrible xps
THIS MONTH’S COVERMOUNT CD is The Best Of 2023. Features tracks from MOJO’s favourite albums, by artists including: Lankum; Everything But The Girl; Rickie Lee Jones; The Coral; Wilco; Grian Chatten; Julie Byrne; Young Fathers and more!
― groovypanda, Sunday, 24 December 2023 17:59 (five months ago) link
Last act calculated to outrage the Mojo core reader on name alone
― bae (sic), Sunday, 24 December 2023 18:16 (five months ago) link
Still very “chuffed” the album I made the art for won Mojo’s Best Electronic Album Of The Year. Been reading this magazine for 20 something years, I think.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 25 December 2023 00:34 (five months ago) link
Congrats!
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 December 2023 02:19 (five months ago) link
Thanks!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 25 December 2023 08:09 (five months ago) link
It's a great album (and cover).Still think of James Holden as a progressive/trance DJ so didn't realise he was now making albums like this
― groovypanda, Monday, 25 December 2023 11:25 (five months ago) link
Thanks, groovypanda.His albums have morphed and progressed over the last few releases. Check out his Animal Spirits project if you haven't. It was a huge honor and surprise to be asked to contribute since I've been a fan of his recordings for a while.As for the artwork - I also made a 12 page booklet that comes with the vinyl and cd (and pdf with Bandcamp digi) versions of the album.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 25 December 2023 11:48 (five months ago) link
It's a lovely sleeve, Captain - congrats!
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Monday, 25 December 2023 13:23 (five months ago) link
I'm obliged to mention that someone Out There is posting most/all of the Mojo CD comps to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.rock. If you know what that is, you'll know how to find them.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 January 2024 03:40 (four months ago) link
Feb was Wings, including a compilation called Jet
Mar is The North Will Rise Again with a compilation of Manchester bands and liam on the cover. didn't entice me to buy it.
― koogs, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:16 (three months ago) link
sucks so bad that as a digital subscriber I don't have access to the CDs.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:16 (three months ago) link
Must have been in another thread that I posted this, but it also sucks that Mojo and Uncut seem to have largely disappeared around here. Between a nearby killer newsstand and the local Barnes & Noble I was always able to pick these up, but I haven't seen a new issue of either in many months.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:18 (three months ago) link
supermarket stocks mojo so i do notice when they change. anyway the new one.
Jun 2024
Kate Bush – The Early Years is this month’s cover story. Everything from her early demos through Wuthering Heights to Never For Ever. Plus! An insider relives the incredible Tour Of Life. Also in the issue: The Yardbirds – the whole story; Scott Walker’s Climate Of Hunter at 40; Beth Gibbons returns; Tangerine Dream’s synth madness; Labi Siffre – famous at last. And: Crowded House; Curtis Mayfield; Anita Pallenberg; Steve Harley; Nirvana; Leyla McCalla; Richard Thompson; Lou Reed; Buzzcocks; Minutemen.
THIS MONTH’S COVERMOUNT CD is MOJO WORKING!: 15 slices of raucous, raving, rumbustious British R&B by The Yardbirds, Manfred Mann, Graham Bond, Cyril Davies, Geno Washington, Alexis Korner and more!
― koogs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:35 (one month ago) link
I wrote the Minutemen story - 4-page oral history on the making of Double Nickels, with new/unpublished interviews with Mike Watt, Bob Mould, Kira Roessler, Joe Baiza, Joe Carducci, Ray Farrell and David Fricke.
Buy magazines, they rule.
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 13:58 (one month ago) link
Greatt article! Gotta go back and listen to the album
― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:30 (one month ago) link
Haven't read it in age, but I was at an airport, saw it and thought now is the time. Enjoyed all of it, but especially the Minutemen article - nice work stevie! Quite moving tbh.
― woof, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:37 (one month ago) link
Yeah Mojo and The Wire have just completely disappeared around here, haven't seen an issue in bookstores or newsstands for many, many months.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:10 (one month ago) link
For me it's that I don't really go into newsagents much any more - I never see it to think about buying it. Anyway, just subscribed.
― woof, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:17 (one month ago) link
Ah thanks Boring and Woof! Have interviewed Mike W a number of ties and he never fails to leave me verklempt - the thing about thinking Ulysses was a happy, exciting book until rereading it when he was 40 ("The book didn't change, but I had") hit me hard on this one.
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:17 (one month ago) link
yeah it was very insightful. I love autodidacts
― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:26 (one month ago) link
[xp by which I mean when he reread it at 40 he found it to be a sad book]
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:33 (one month ago) link
Wonderful. I was actually hoping for this earlier this month when I played through all of their records after seeing so many people on social media commemorate D. Boon's birthday on April 1. Still frustrating that Mike Watt was never able to release an uncut remastered edition of Double Nickels - he definitely tried but I guess Greg Ginn blew him off.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:33 (one month ago) link
Have yet to hear anyone (other than Mugger) speak fondly of Ginn.
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:52 (one month ago) link
How did other bands get their masters back? Offer Ginn a lot of money or go through the courts? Money something I assume Watt and others don't have.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:21 (one month ago) link
Mojo is absolutely killing it as of late. I know rock is dead and all but it's kind of wild that there's no American magazine left that's going to put Pearl Jam on a cover in 2024
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:26 (one month ago) link
xp I think you just need to get some solid lawyers to confront SST and Ginn rolls over. A couple of catches: doesn't work if the band members can't agree to terms and clear the way for lawyers to move forward (see Hüsker Dü) and even if Ginn concedes, he hasn't done shit to properly maintain or store the masters, so even though you get back the rights, the physical masters may be lose (see Meat Puppets)
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:29 (one month ago) link
*lost
I know it's the wrong mag, but Select has a cover mount of Can Live tracks this month..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:21 (one month ago) link
I think that's Uncut, didn't Select go away a long time ago?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:24 (one month ago) link
Oh yeah. Uncut. Opps.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:13 (one month ago) link
― birdistheword, Tuesday, April 30, 2024 3:29 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
i spoke with this directly with terry katzman about the husker du stuff (terry ran reflex records for the huskers) before he died, they did have lawyers - the same lawyers that dino jr. and meat puppets used i think he said -- but the husker contract was different and had some more onerous language in it that they could not overcome. the band was actually all fairly united (at least as united as huskers get) and behind the project. ginn does not just roll over by any means.
so they could do the savage young du boxset, because that was largely based on terry's tapes and pre-sst. the original plan was to work with numero on a reissue series of the entire catalog - i think he said the idea was to have sets where it would be a remastered album then another disc of outtakes and/or live performances of that era.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:22 (one month ago) link
^^^ oh maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:31 (one month ago) link
yeah it's a tragedy that it never happened and now that Terry is gone it never will, he had so much energy to make it happen he cared way more about that band than the members did
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:41 (one month ago) link
Yeah, the impression Bob gave me last time I interviewed him is that they had lawyers, they'd approached Ginn, but that it was just too hard, and in the end he's just written it all off as a lost cause. It's such a shame.
SST seem to have bumped up their vinyl represses over the last couple of years, but I don't see them doing any deluxe reissues with outtakes, etc, and that's a shame. I remember telling Carducci when I was researching my Flag book that it was a tragedy they weren't celebrating the back catalog that way, and that the CDs didn't sound great and could do with a remaster at the very least, but he argued that they sound fine. Still...
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:44 (one month ago) link
Interesting and very sad. I was going by that interview Grant did where he claimed Bob was asking for too much control and too big of a share of the catalog in order to get it away from SST, but I guess a lot happened after that bump in the road.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:56 (one month ago) link
https://www.mojo4music.com/magazine/latest-issues/mojo-368-july-2024-paul-weller/
Weller cover, Byrds related cover cd
― koogs, Saturday, 18 May 2024 18:49 (one month ago) link