EDWYN COLLINS is seriously ill in hospital after suffering a brain haemorrhage (...back in 2005; he's much better now).

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Get well soon, Edwyn!

http://www.nme.com/news/111515.htm

Andy Jay, Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

not good

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

:-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh fuck

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

shit

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

He'll be OK.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

He'll be OK.
well that depends on how 'heavy' the haemorrhage was. my supervisor was struck by one and it took him several years to recover, more or less. still has a hard time concentrating and having conversations in a group of people. never managed to get back to his old job (science). on the other hand i know of a person who made a full recovery within half a year.
regardless, i wish him the best of luck.

willem (willem), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"He was out for the count and when he awoke he was laughing uncontrollably as one might at a joke."

Well, let's hope so anyway.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

: ((((((((((

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus! I hope he's OK!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry - that wasn't really medical opinion, just hopefulness.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

oh feh. :-(((((

nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope he gets through this with no major problems.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's hope for a 'post-brain hemmorage musical output TS: Edwyn Collins vs. Paul Kantner' thread in a short time.

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm betting that Edwyn takes him pretty easily.

Still, hope he makes a full recovery. This is really bumming me out.

Hutlock (Hutlock), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder what brought it on?

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

This is terrible news! Just when I read about being ill I was listening to an interview with Collins that I did last year that I coincidentally was planning to re-run on Monday. He is one of the nicest, smartest, and funniest and lovelies people I have ever interviewed! Hope he recovers. :-(

Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

about *him* being ill

Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was going through old tapes last night and came across Hope & Despair which I haven't listened to in far too long. Weird when things like that happen.

Get well soon to one of my first, and longest-standing, musical heroes.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 24 February 2005 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I found the 12" single I own of his (I forget which one though) last night. He's gotta make full recovery.

Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Thursday, 24 February 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

that is shitty news. here's to a speedy recovery.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 24 February 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

from the Beeb...


Singer Edwyn Collins 'very ill'
Edwyn Collins
A Girl Like You was a hit at the height of Britpop
Singer Edwyn Collins, known for fronting 1980s band Orange Juice and his 1990s solo success, is seriously ill after a brain haemorrhage.

He was taken ill on Sunday night, his wife Grace wrote on his website.

"He is being well looked after in hospital. When there is more to report, I'll let you all know," she wrote.

Edinburgh-born Collins, 45, led Orange Juice to a number three UK hit with Rip It Up in 1983. Solo single A Girl Like You reached number four in 1995.

Global hit

A spokesperson added that doctors were trying to stabilise his condition.

Collins was a leading figure on the alternative Scottish scene in the late 1970s and 1980s, forming his first band, Nu-Sonics, aged 17.

They became Orange Juice, who were independent favourites and briefly broke into the mainstream with Rip It Up.


The band Orange Juice

Edwyn Collins' solo pop path
He pursued a solo career with mixed results until A Girl Like You, at the height of Britpop, which was a top 10 hit in seven countries and reached the top 40 in the US.

In 1999, he created and starred in Channel 4 sitcom West Heath Yard, which featured cameo performances from Jarvis Cocker, Natalie Imbruglia and Alan McGee.

He surfaced again as a guest on Rolf Harris' album after being impressed by the Australian icon's rendition of A Girl Like You.

He had recently turned to producing new bands including Sons and Daughters, The Cribs and Little Barrie.

A compilation of his early songs, The Glasgow School, is due to be released in May.

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

wife? for some reason i thought he was gay.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG OMG ... I interviewed him twice in my student days and could barely stop shaking, he was such a hero. "Simply Thrilled Honey" was my song of a generation, the fanzine I never started and the word phrase I cherished the most. And gigs too - Burberries in Brum in 88 and the 'Riot' gig on the NME stage at Reading when he refused to leave the stage.

Get well soon and fully Edwyn !!

darren (darren), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Good grief! This is dreadful. My own brain recently fucked up, and I fondly remember listening to "Heather's On Fire" and "YKHYLF" A LOT while convalescing. Shit! Shit! Shit!

"He was out for the count and when he awoke he was laughing uncontrollably as one might at a joke."

Fingers and toes crossed. : (

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

the 'Riot' gig on the NME stage at Reading when he refused to leave the stage.

Is it true that he said from the stage at this show, "I know that's you, Bobby Gillespie -- shut the fuck up!"

(I'm not trying to make light of the serious situation, just want to get some good vibes going with the good wishes for recovery.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha! If he did, that's fantastic!

Get better soon, Edywn!



By the way, how is Marc Almond doing after his really nasty accident?

Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 24 February 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

horrible news, I hope he'll be ok. :(

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 25 February 2005 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I sorely wanted to be Edwyn Collins when I was in my teens. naturally i wish him a full and speedy recovery.

Ian, Marc Almond has made an amazing recovery, by the sounds of things: http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,,1396320,00.html

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Friday, 25 February 2005 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Poor old soul... :(

Adam Faithless (Adam Faithless), Friday, 25 February 2005 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1396280,00.html

Recent Marc Almond interview (he's on the mend!!!!)

Kim Tortoise, Friday, 25 February 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"the 'Riot' gig on the NME stage at Reading when he refused to leave the stage."

Sorry to shatter any illusions but there was no "riot" and actually Edwyn did leave the stage very dutifully, having only been allowed time to perform a couple of numbers because the tossers managing the (second) stage had allowed so many earlier acts to overrun.

Consequently quite a few of us refused to leave the tent and started shaking the central tent poles and loosening the guide ropes and generally threatening to pull the thing down; but when it became apparent that Edwyn had gone and there was no chance of geting hom back and that all we were actually doing was running up a nice big overtime payment for the incompetent twats who'd caused the situation in the first place, we all just gave up and went home.

"Is it true that he said from the stage at this show, "I know that's you, Bobby Gillespie -- shut the fuck up!""

I don't think so; it would certainly have been an extremely strange thing for him to have said, since the band that was playing on the main stage at the time was James.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Bobby might have been going "boo let's riot and that" stage right...

MarkG, Friday, 25 February 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

wife? for some reason i thought he was gay

The film clip for the magic piper of love may have lead you to believe that.

the other kate (ffs!) (papa november), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Some of the "riot" footage is on the Phantasmagoria video that Edwyn released about a decade back. I mean, the whole set is there, but it doesn't really show a "riot" at the end or whatever, though the incident is clearly there. There's even a disclaimer on the sleeve for you not to tell the "shock ending" to your friends, if I remember right...

And I still want to grow up and be Edwyn Collins.

Hutlock (Hutlock), Friday, 25 February 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I once went to a record signing he did in Inverness when Hellbent on Compromise came out, and I was the only person that turned up. Poor guy, all that way, and one sad lassie with the entire Orange Juice back catalogue for him to sign :)

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 25 February 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember seeing him on Conan O'Brien and he was telling a story about a gig gone horribly wrong where he wound up kicking a bouncer in the testicles.

I heard about this this morning on the radio and they should really be ashamed of themselves. This is basically what I heard : "Edwyn Collins was hospitalized after suffering a brain hemorrhage. You may remember his '95 hit 'A Girl like You' even though he probably doesn't anymore." What an asinine thing to say.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 25 February 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Orange Juice and Jonathan Richman at the Hammersmith Odeon in '84. He was great. I hope he recovers.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i am hearing that the prognosis is v. v. grim.

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

:-( Yeeps.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2005/feb05/20050227_edwyncollins.html

Edwyn Collins Remains In Serious Condition

by Paul Cashmere

27 February 2005

Scottish singer Edwyn Collins is fighting for his life after suffering from a brain hemorrhage last weekend (February 20).

One week after Collins was taken to hospital his condition has not improved.

Collins is best known for the 1995 hit single 'A Girl Like You'. Before breaking out as a solo artist he was the lead singer of Scottish band Orange Juice. Orange Juice disbanded in 1984.

He was born in Edinburgh in 1959. He lives in London with his wife Grace who is updating fans at his website.

Collins latest work was as producer for the debut album by Little Barrie.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 27 February 2005 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Update on website:

Edwyn had an emergency operation on Friday 25th Febuary.

He has come through it as well as can be hoped for and is continuing to fight.
Thank you for all the loving thoughts.

D> D>, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

:(

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

For serious

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

He has come through it as well as can be hoped for and is continuing to fight.
Thank you for all the loving thoughts.

As I'm not familiar with the results of brain haemorrhage, I don't know what this means. I only hope he recovers. :-(

nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4311119.stm

Singer Edwyn Collins has undergone emergency brain surgery after suffering a haemorrhage last month.

The 45-year-old Scottish musician's wife Grace Maxwell said the former Orange Juice frontman was recovering and is "as well as can be hoped for".

Collins, who also had success as a solo artist, is in a London hospital while his condition is being stabilised.

Ms Maxwell, also Collins' manager, added in a message posted on his website he was "continuing to fight".

'Loving thoughts'

She also thanked fans and well-wishers for their "loving thoughts", and said she would keep them informed of any developments in the singer's condition.

Collins' biggest hit with Orange Juice was Rip It Up in 1983, which reached number three, and in 1995 he scored a big solo hit with A Girl Like You.

On BBC 6 Music's radio show Roundtable on 18 February, Collins said he had recently been ill.

"I suddenly got a horrible sense of vertigo, the room started spinning around and I started puking up," he said.

But he put it down to food poisoning at the time, adding: "I'm two days into recuperation and I should be fine."

Global hit

Collins was a leading figure on the alternative Scottish scene in the late 1970s and 1980s, forming his first band, Nu-Sonics, aged 17.

They became Orange Juice, who were independent favourites and briefly broke into the mainstream with Rip It Up.


The band Orange Juice

Edwyn Collins' pop path

He pursued a solo career with mixed results until A Girl Like You, at the height of Britpop, which was a top 10 hit in seven countries and reached the top 40 in the US.

In 1999, he created and starred in Channel 4 sitcom West Heath Yard, which featured cameo performances from Jarvis Cocker, Natalie Imbruglia and Alan McGee.

He surfaced again as a guest on Rolf Harris' album after being impressed by the Australian icon's rendition of A Girl Like You.

He had recently turned to producing new bands including Sons and Daughters, The Cribs and Little Barrie.

A compilation of his early songs, The Glasgow School, is due to be released in May.

Andy Jay, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dying Day" is one of my all time favorite songs. I really hope that his is still far away.

Maxwell von Bismarck (maxwell von bismarck), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm taking some meagre solace in the fact that surgery is still considered a worthwhile endeavour. :(

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 3 March 2005 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

In 1999, he created and starred in Channel 4 sitcom West Heath Yard, which featured cameo performances from Jarvis Cocker, Natalie Imbruglia and Alan McGee.

I didn't know that. Was this good, was it?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 3 March 2005 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Never heard of it! Hope Edwyn is getting better.

Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember liking the episode I saw but mostly in a "Cor! Edwyn Collins acting! What a treat!" way. I don't recall the celeb cameos. It has no IMDB entry, which is pretty remarkable.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I wish I'd seen it! He'd be much better than Alan Cummings and Forbes Masson. He might have been the new John Gorgon Sinclair.

Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Edwyn Collins Suffers Second Haemorrhage

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Not good

Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd go so far as to say extremely not good.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn. This is actually making me feel a bit sick. Poor Edwyn, I hope he does pull through ok.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

So do I, this is not good news but I'm still hoping everything turns out ok.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

BBC 6 Music reports his wife Grace saying Edwyn is doing well. "Each day is a better day". It seems the operation was performed after the second haemorrhage, although the news of them seems to have come the other way around.

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Pashmina OTM.

Incidentally, I saw you Momus on prime-time TV just last night, discussing parasites and eye damage at some length on a BBC doco. Nasty! (and not the way one would've hoped you'd broaden your antipodean audience!) : (

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 4 March 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I got the chance to see a live show and meet him while he was barnstorming America in support of "A Girl Like You" (with Paul Cook in his band!). A very funny, kind guy. These two girls kept screeching his name while he was onstage; he mocked them in the nicest way by screaming back "ED-WEEEN!" He also signed my vinyl copy of 'You Can't Hide Your Love Forever' and chatted with me about Creedence and TLC.

Best wishes.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i quite liked West Heath Yard despite it's general naffness. Edwyn was a lot better in it than he was in that one episode of Shooting Stars where he rather clumsily did a line about 'the danger of receiving faulty electrical goods' or something - still rather endearingly amusing tho, and 'A Girl Like You' in a club style surpasses the original version for me...stay with us Ed!

Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Any news?

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

There are some wonderful, wonderful photos of Orange Juice in this month’s Uncut (or is it Mojo) in an article about Postcard records. They look so young, happy, optimistic. The sound of Young Scotland indeed.

Poor Edwyn, I really hope for the best for him.

Bidfurd, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Things seem to be looking up, a little

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Grace notes more progress on Edwyn's site:

"Dear All This is the most relaxed I've felt
about giving you news since this all began.
I think we can say that Edwyn is now virtually out of immediate danger.
We are organising his next move, to intensive neuro rehabilitation,
which should happen in the next few weeks at the latest.
This is a tough challenge, but you know he's beaten the odds already
and I fully expect him to go on in his customary stubborn manner.
He is aware of the wonderful support he has received and I'm printing
all the messages out so he can read them when he is able in the near future.
If you wish, you can send cards to him at:
West Heath Studios,
West Heath Yard,
174 Mill Lane,
London, NW6 1TB.

Meanwhile, his doctors are delighted and a bit confounded at his progress. He's Edwyn.
Love to you all Grace"

Momus (Momus), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, Momus. It's good to hear.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

It is. (Bump, cause I nearly missed this myself..)

mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 19 March 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:56:47 PM
Grace wrote:

Latest from his website (good news):

"Dearest All, Thank you for all the continuing messages. I read them all and draw strength from every heartfelt thought. He's such an unsentimental person in every day life I wonder how he will react when he realises what you have all done for him. Meanwhile his progress continues. He breathes for himself, he's eating real food again (as of today), he's communicating and battling for returning mobility. I have complete faith in him. Today is our best day yet. Thanks for everything, Love Grace and William (who is, by the way, a hero.)"

Manfred, Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Some further interesting news from Grace at Edwyn's bulletin board:

On: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:22:09 AM

Well, Edwyn's surgery went off without incident. He was understandably wiped out for a couple of days. He still has some infection in there which they are doing battle with. His fighting powers against these predatory infections is consistently ridiculously strong but I'm sure you all get it when I say I'm right back in the worry zone. Giving you these updates isn't a bother for me. On the contrary I've come to rely on your messages to get me off to sleep. Hmm. I've a feeling Edwyn might call this attention seeking. By the way, he has been singing these past few days. His tuning needs working on...Love Grace

AND

On: Friday, April 22, 2005 09:04:09 PM

The [Sunday Times] (don't know if it's the Scottish version or nationally) plan to run a story on Sunday about Edwyn and MRSA. I have not spoken to them, will not speak to them and would like to state once more for the record that we owe a serious debt of gratitude to the doctors and nurses and domestic staff of the Royal Free whose skill, professionalism, compassion and kindness have got Edwyn through this ordeal. He continues to improve every day and we hope to be back to the rehab unit before very long. With love to you, his real supporters, Grace

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 24 April 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
Singer Collins battling MRSA bug

Edwyn Collins had a global solo hit with A Girl Like You in 1995
Singer Edwyn Collins is being treated for the MRSA bug after a surgical scar became infected.
The 45-year-old, who suffered two brain haemorrhages in February, is said to be responding to treatment for the bug at London's Royal Free Hospital.

His wife Grace Maxwell wrote on his website that the infection has been "very difficult to get under control".

Collins, who had hits with Rip It Up and A Girl Like You, required further surgery to remove infected scar tissue.

'Enduring gratitude'

Mrs Maxwell also said: "I'm hopeful that we've turned a corner. Edwyn continues to feel quite well in himself."

It emerged that Collins has been suffering with the so-called "superbug" for some weeks.

A piece of bone which was replaced at the beginning of April had to be removed again after an infection was detected.


Collins (right) burst onto the music scene with his band Orange Juice

The former frontman of Scottish pop group Orange Juice had left the north London hospital to be treated at a rehabilitation centre, but returned a day later.

A statement from the Royal Free Hospital said: "Grace and the family would like to restate their enduring gratitude to staff for the lifesaving care they have given to Edwyn."

It added that "he continues to improve under the watchful eye of the medical team".

Collins was taken to hospital on 20 February, several days after complaining of vertigo and vomiting.

The Edinburgh-born singer-songwriter then had emergency surgery after suffering a second haemorrhage.


Manfred, Sunday, 8 May 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Grace seems to be reacting with defensiveness to the implication that Edwyn has aquired this MRSA infection due to poor hospital hygiene. There's also a political element in the fact that the Sunday Times is a right wing paper and the Tories ran during the election with a very prominent campaign theme about dirty NHS hospitals. Nevertheless, hospital-acquired infections are a huge problem, and way too common. Just because the Tories said it doesn't automatically make it wrong, and it can surely be combatted without the Tories' solution, creeping privatisation.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 8 May 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

Well, exactly. The Govt didn't create MRSA anymore than umm whatever.

Noted: The Cons slogan "A brighter Britain" like they were promising better weather.

Anyhow I digress.

The MRSA problem has been known about for a very long time. It predates

Actually, I shall leave it there.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 8 May 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

and it was the Tories who contracted out the cleaning of hospitals to the lowest tender with the inevitable fall in standards.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 8 May 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Quite. Which was why the issue was quietly dropped.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

Is Edwyn Collins NHS? You would think, etc. blah blah. Reading Hospital was very dirty when we were there. It was Easter weekend, but the MRSA bug knows no bank holidays.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

Nor bank balances.

log me out quick! (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

"Reading Hospital was very dirty when we were there."

Being dirty is one of the very least of Reading hospitals' problems when compared with the absolutely breathtaking incompetence of some it's medical staff, the even more breathtaking arrogance of some of it's Consultants and the pathetically toothless, spineless, feeble ineffectuality of it's Complaints Department and procedures.

Believe me, you really don't want to get me started on all this right now.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

But its occupational heath dept is fine. Well, at least one.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

Gastroenterology also full marks.

A&E could do better.

Neurology negligent and incompetent.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, thanks to Gastroenterology, circa 1987, I'm still here.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Thanks to one specific Neurology Consultant (whose identity will be revealed very soon all over the front pages of a newspaper near you, if I have anything to do with it) it's taken 11 months to diagnose the fact that my girlfriend had a stroke last year (despite the fact that she was admitted to, investigated for, and then actually discharged from the Royal Berks. while still displaying an almost classic, textbook set of symptoms) by which time of course it was far too late to try and do anything about minimising the effects of the extensive brain damage she'd suffered..

Not that he's bothered of course - he's evidently still far more interested in manipulating his statistics by repeatedly taking her off his waiting list as a supposedly "succesful" case; and sending her back via her GP right to the back of his 4-month waiting list again; than he is in trying to find a diagnosis, a course of treatment or even any pain relief for the constant pain she's been in as a result of the auto-immune disorder (almost certainly triggered by the stroke - another text book classic of course) that's been making her body's natural defence systems go into overdrive and start attacking and destroying perfectly good body tissue and internal organs for the whole of the last 11 months.

And people wonder why I can get just the teensy weensiest bit grumpy sometimes....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I was a bit worried I might start something with that comment. Basically, the toilets were dirty, both patients' and visitors'.

Operating theatre 'Birth Crew' really truly excellent. Just the aftercare, or lack of it, was a bit disappointing. No slur on the overworked staff, you understand. Well, only a bit of a slur.

I thought Reading hospital would be good, you know.

Attempts to get an appointment for a hip scan have proved furitless too, so we have to go to Ascot instead.

I have never been to Ascot, so that's OK.

Sorry to hear about that, Stewart. Good luck. I picked up some How To Complain leaflets, but it seemed like a waste of time. Our problems were very minor though.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

"I picked up some How To Complain leaflets, but it seemed like a waste of time."

It's reached the point where the Compliants Co-Ordinator, her assiastant and the Head of The Patient Advice and Liaison Service all recognise both of our voices the moment we come on the 'phone.

All very friendly, all very sympathetic, all very helpful-sounding - and all ultimately about as much actual use as a chocolate teapot and an ashtray on a motorbike.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Ooh - I've just bought one of those. Are they no good then?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
He's out of the hospital.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Awww, good to hear he's better.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

"I was out for the count the first weeks, but thank you for all the support," he dictated through his wife and manager Grace Maxwell.

.. and when he awoke .... ?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

.. he was laughing, uncontrollably...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Reading between the lines it sounds like he's got a fair bit of rehabilitation ahead of him, but to get to this stage and bearing in mind the trials he's been through is nothing short of a miracle.

Likewise his peer Marc Almond, those post punk stars are made of strong stuff.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Some fantastic news which may have been missed.

As most of you know, Edwyn suffered a brain haemorrhage in February of this
year. Following neurosurgery and a long stay in hospital, he came in August,
where he continues his daily fight for recovery.

This fight is on many fronts, but his progress is such that today finds him
back at work in his studio for the first time. He is continuing to mix his
new album with the wonderful assistance of Sebastian Lewsley, his right hand
man and sparring partner for the last 12 years. They take up today where
they left off in February.

A day to remember.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

fantastic indeed, thanks for the info.

willem (willem), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Wow, great news.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

According to the Daily Record:

"FORMER Orange Juice star Edwyn Collins is back in the studio - eight months after suffering a brain haemorrhage. Collins, 46, also contracted the MRSA bug in hospital. But he's now putting the finishing touches to his next album. The singer still has little movement in his right arm and has communication problems."

A month ago the Record told us:

"SINGER Edwyn Collins has a "love-hate relationship" with his recovery from a double brain haemorrhage, his wife has revealed.

Grace Maxwell admitted that the ex-Orange Juice frontman, 46, is still having problems speaking and using his right arm.

But the Scot, who had a smash hit with A Girl Like You in 1995, is determined to overcome his "communication problems".

Grace said: "Edwyn continues to have a love-hate relationship with his recovery schedule.

"He wants his old life of Reilly back immediately, but appreciates that without all the hard work he wouldn't be improving so well.

"To give you an idea - Edwyn walks further and with better style all the time. His right arm still doesn't work at all but we live in hope as his intensive therapy continues.

"Perhaps the most frustrating things are his communication problems.

"Edwyn has expressive dysphasia, which affects his ability to find the things he wishes to say and his reading andwriting.

"To begin with, all this was gone, so you can imagine how hard he has worked to get to the level he has, which is amazing.

"He still seems nowhere near his potential but this is scary stuff for this incredible man.

"He's taking none of this lying down. In his own words, 'I can't accept it, I won't accept it."' Last month, guitarist Edwyn was allowed home after six months in a London hospital following brain surgery."

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 13 October 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I wonder what brought it on?
-- Michael White (Sanmichel...), February 24th, 2005 9:25 AM. (Hereward)

i'm wayyyy late to this thread but I thought this innocent-enough question may have had some implications (as brain hemorrhages go hand-in-hand with some nasty habits).

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 13 October 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Yes, like genetic hypertension.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

(potentially) good news, folks. this, from Edwyn's son Will, as posted on dad's MySpace bulletin:

Date: 12 Jun 2007, 18:43
Subject plans for later
Body: hi will here im hardly on my dads myspace but my dad wants to tell everyone that theres alot going on this year for my dad. first thing my dads album home again is planned to come out this year he also is dying to do a gig he has been rehearsing like mad and believe me every day i hear him singing like mad i hear blue boy, girl like you and some of his new songs every day help only joking its great to hear him sing so hopefully he will do a gig this year he has also been in the studio working on his equipment seeing if he can still rock out.He has been at a few gigs in the last few months including the cribs little barrie and my mates licotine what a party animal
he has got the band back together including paul cook and andy hackett.He has been working on his health his strumming hand is still in a bad shape but he is still a blue boy in his heart well thats all for now but if you want to know any more info on his album or his idea on his gig vist HIS NEW INTERNETSITE.Thats right we have finally editing his website after to make it fresh and styllish it will be there in the next 48 hours like the other top british band websites wow bet thats made you gasp anyway thats all for now if you have any questions message me or my dad and hopefully we will get back to you on any questions bye for now kick out the jams

CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 08:58 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6925973.stm

Pop singer Edwyn Collins is returning to music as he continues to recover from a life-threatening illness.

The 47-year-old, best known for A Girl Like You, releases a new single, You'll Never Know, on 10 September.

It is followed a week later by Home Again - the album he was working on when he fell ill in February 2005.

The ex-Orange Juice singer suffered two brain haemorrhages and spent six months in hospital after a surgical scar became infected with the MRSA bug.

The illness affected his movement and speech, but Edinburgh-born Collins was determined to return to the studio.

"I'm learning to live again," the singer wrote on his website.

"I'm very pleased with the album and songs. I'm getting there and I feel grateful at last."

The Scottish star says he is currently rehearsing with a band and hopes to return to the stage later this year.

"I sing every day," he wrote. "It's important for me. Music, it's everything to me."

Solo Career

Collins was a leading figure on the alternative Scottish scene in the late 1970s and 1980s, forming his first band, Nu-Sonics, aged 17.

They became Orange Juice, who were independent favourites and briefly broke into the mainstream with Rip It Up in 1983.

He went on to pursue a solo career, making an impact with A Girl Like You, a top 10 hit in seven countries in 1995.

Collins, who is based in London, has also produced records for bands like Sons and Daughters, The Cribs and Little Barrie.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

"He was out for the count and when he awoke he was laughing uncontrollably as one might at a joke."

...falling and laughing...

(sorry)

filthy dylan, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

Wow -- this is so great to hear. It sounds like he's still in rough shape, tho...

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

really good news.

Hamildan, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://music.guardian.co.uk/rock/story/0,,2150203,00.html

dad a, Friday, 17 August 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Good 4 him!

Mark G, Friday, 17 August 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

I used to serve Edwyn Collins occasionally when I worked in Oxfam in West Hampstead. I was always too shy to actually say anything to him though! He was pleasant. Used to buy secondhand books.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 17 August 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

Glad to hear he's doing OK.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 17 August 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

I'm still really loving watching him with Orange Juice on the Old Grey Whistle Test doing "Rip It Up.." They got a really interesting synth sound different than the record.

Good for him, indeed.

Bimble, Saturday, 18 August 2007 03:29 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

I have got a spare ticket for tomorrow night's concert in case anyone wants it. It costs fourteen pounds, which is ten pounds ticket plus four pounds booking nonsense. The concert is at DINGWALLS in Camden on London's Trendy Northern Line. If you want it, please email me, or answer here. I will check back later.

It would involve meeting me outside, but as it is standing only, you don't have to sit next to me all night or anything, although as I am going on my own I would be quite glad of some company, if only to make me look less of a SAD OLD GIT.

I think it will be a good concert. I mean, we weren't expecting this upthread.

PJ Miller, Saturday, 27 October 2007 11:45 (eighteen years ago)

PJ Miller, Saturday, 27 October 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/05/01/review.edwyn/index.html

This sounds like it was amazing.

HI DERE, Thursday, 1 May 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

You said it. (New hero: Roddy Frame.)

Collins described how hard it was to cope with dysphasia, which means he struggles to find words. "I'm fighting to get language back," he said, adding that, "I used to have all the beautiful words but they've gone now."

Heartwrenching.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 May 2008 19:55 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

A book with a happy ending?

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/richmedia/images/cover.gif

DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:48 (sixteen years ago)

Hmm, what happened there?

http://img.tesco.com/pi/Books/L/92/9780091929992.jpg

DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

Not finished reading it yet but it's a lovely book.

Edwyn's own "Some British Birds" even more so - I admit it combines four interests of mine, succinctly.

djh, Saturday, 27 June 2009 21:12 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Terrific feature.

willem, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

Story in this month's Mojo was really nice, too.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

cool! thanks for posting that link. the bbc doc about edwyn totally made me cry, especially the scenes with his wife and him playing guitar. eesh.

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

What BBC doc? Link, por favor?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 18 November 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)

Ah, thank you for linking that. Will watch tonight.

willem, Thursday, 18 November 2010 06:23 (fifteen years ago)

Really really wish I could have found room for post-OJ EC in this, re the box:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-10-01/music/orange-juice-for-everyone

dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

Damn! Sorry for the typo It came out today, not Oct. 10
http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-12-01/music/orange-juice-for-everyone

dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

OK, this might have been put somewhere already 'cos it's old but it's new to me. So great to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBPwNtIlTRs

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder if we should have some amendment to the title of this thread because I know that every time I see it revived I think 'oh no!'...(even tho i have just revived it).

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)

Better?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:33 (fourteen years ago)

Much better!

i can't, i won't (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

I was at that TFC/Edwyn gig and it was easily one of the best I've ever seen.

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

Via Klive Humberstone of In the Nursery just now on FB:

Just bumped into Edwyn Collins in Town. How bizarre and how lovely. He's in Sheffield to 'jam' with Richard Hawley (hope that's not supposed to be a secret!). Had a brilliant chat.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

eight months pass...

Not sure if many people round here still keep up with his solo stuff, his last album was terrific and his new one is out next week. It's streaming right now if anyone wants a listen.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2013/mar/18/edwyn-collins-understated-stream

I just love this man. I saw him in Leeds in 2010 and it was one of the best gigs I've ever seen. He did a few of the old Orange Juice classics and a great selection from his solo years including my personal favourite, Make Me Feel Again from Gorgeous George.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 09:53 (twelve years ago)

"A Girl Like You" was such a terrible song that it killed my interest in him stone dead and retroactively tainted Orange Juice forever.

poking pocong (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 10:02 (twelve years ago)

oh for the love of

that would be a fecal matter (electricsound), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 10:06 (twelve years ago)

Seriously? You're missing out on so many great songs. The Orange Juice stuff still sounds great today, just forget A Girl Like You exists.

New album is fantastic, up there with his best solo work.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 10:10 (twelve years ago)

an album of nothing but farts would not diminish one second of the heather's on fire or ostrich churchyard

that would be a fecal matter (electricsound), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 10:11 (twelve years ago)

believe me guys i loved Orange Juice a long way back but all i think of when i hear is name now is that turgid 60s hackjob

poking pocong (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 10:21 (twelve years ago)

anyway just an observation, hope he keeps on keeping on and avoids jamming with people

poking pocong (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 10:24 (twelve years ago)

two years pass...

Britishers, the documentary is on film4 on tuesday night:

http://www.film4.com/reviews/2014/the-possibilities-are-endless

koogs, Saturday, 12 December 2015 18:12 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

I lieu of a proper Edwyn Collins general discussion topic, I am upping this one to extol the brilliant all-over-the-place-ness of his 1997 weird pop mini-masterpiece I'm Not Following You.

He sandwiches so much into fifty-five minutes, it's great.

Austin, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:12 (eight years ago)

Yeah it is his best non-Orange Juice album imo. Quite close to Texas Fever in its execution. Brilliant production - experimental in the best way: guitars going off all over the place, flashes of feedback or weird noises coming in but its all about the great songs (great anti-britpop song in there too). Don't really like Mark E. Smith's song but otherwise it's really, really good.

everything, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:41 (eight years ago)

ah thanks for the bump, will check.

Ludo, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:43 (eight years ago)

Also, I love that it was basically his follow-up to 'A Girl Like You.' Such open defiance of even remotely caring about continuing with that momentum.

Austin, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:56 (eight years ago)

He casually declares his independence or openly dismisses the idea of being marketed alongside the other bands of the time in maybe half the songs here! Very amusingly worded too! haha.

everything, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:03 (eight years ago)

Doing your own thing and not caring about money or success is the theme of the album.

everything, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:05 (eight years ago)

six years pass...

maybe my favorite thing he ever did?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULZtVYBCL08

"means to an end" (1990)

"another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 06:56 (two years ago)

from the album hellbent on compromise♥︎

"another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 06:59 (two years ago)

i'm honestly slightly aghast at how much no one seems to care/know about this song. <800 listsners and <2000 scrobbles on last.fm, not on streaming, and <1000 views on youtube. i just happened on a used cd copy years ago by complete chance and that's the first track. the rest of the album is kind of a standard jangly 1990 alterna-thing. none of it retains that same eerie atmosphere as on "means to an end." the song was co-written with paul quinn (who goes way back w/ec). anyway, what a tune.

"another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 07:15 (two years ago)

kind of has a leonard cohen thing going on

budo jeru, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 18:54 (two years ago)

one year passes...

this is lovely
https://thequietus.com/interviews/bakers-dozen/all-for-the-songs-edwyn-collins-favourite-music/

willem, Wednesday, 12 March 2025 09:55 (one year ago)

Album seems fairly decent.

djh, Saturday, 15 March 2025 22:11 (one year ago)

Bandsplain recently had an episode about how “A Girl Like You” is a perfect song and it had a lot of Collins & OJ background info. I got into Orange Juice randomly when all of their albums were reissued for Record Store Day several years ago; they were cheap and I grabbed all of them without ever hearing them. I fell in love but didn’t realize it was the”Girl Like You” guy until very recently.

The podcast prompted me to buy a copy of Gorgeous George and it’s really good. The production is probably a little dated but it reminds me so much of Pulp. The lyrics, his manner of singing, the music. I guess it needs some funky synths. Thankfully I wasn’t around radio or MTV so the big hit doesn’t bug me.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 29 March 2025 20:33 (eleven months ago)

Not an OJ fan but I do dig Gorgeous George, really varied album with some great guitar sounds

brimstead, Saturday, 29 March 2025 20:57 (eleven months ago)

“Low Expectations” might be my favorite off of it. Is “Gorgeous George” about Boy George? I want it to be about Boy George.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 29 March 2025 21:03 (eleven months ago)

Album seems fairly decent.

― djh

Will check---what a relief to see that this revive wasn't an RIP!

About a very thorough and good Orange Juice CD/DVD round-up, Coals To Newcastle (2010)---
originally in the Village Voice, archived here because ancient Voice links can go astray:

https://myvil.blogspot.com/2016/06/you-young-eccentric.html

dow, Saturday, 29 March 2025 21:08 (eleven months ago)

Gorgeous George has a song called “North of Heaven,” which is a sad, straight-forward country-tinged love song that for absolutely no reason has the following lyrics: “Some mother’s talking ‘bout Guns ‘n’ Roses, as if I give a fuck. At best I think they suck. I’m too preoccupied with my memories, not nonentities.”

Cow_Art, Saturday, 29 March 2025 21:24 (eleven months ago)

Really love the ez disco-y “if you could love me”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PTde0LIbX4

brimstead, Sunday, 30 March 2025 00:13 (eleven months ago)

> Gorgeous George

i know the name from a famous wrestler

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgeous_George

> George Raymond Wagner (March 24, 1915 – December 26, 1963) was an American professional wrestler known by his ring name Gorgeous George.

koogs, Sunday, 30 March 2025 16:20 (eleven months ago)

Also a nickname for George Galloway, though I suspect he came up with it himself.

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 March 2025 16:57 (eleven months ago)

That Gorgeous George wiki is a trip in itself---dunno if all its claims are true, but yeah Muhammad Ali and James Brown acknowledged his influence---makes me think of early 70s Alice Cooper too, screwing with the audience---ditto Andy Kaufman, who even worked wrestling into his act, and made that take-off on My Dinner with Andre Kaufman's film short was the raucousBreakfast With Blassie, co-starring the George opponent mentioned by Wiki.
(And I think George is in that early 70s Creem cover feature, The Androgyny Hall of Fame.)

dow, Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:26 (eleven months ago)

Yeah, I had heard of the wrestler but nothing in the song really pins it to him. I still think it’s about Boy George.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:34 (eleven months ago)

Not an OJ fan but I do dig Gorgeous George, really varied album with some great guitar sounds

― brimstead

yeah the thing i like about that album is it's kinda like one of those free cds that used to come with guitar mags where they do an fx pedal rundown and demo each one

doe on a hill (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:38 (eleven months ago)

two weeks pass...

new album -which is indeed decent- prompted a revisit to i'm not following you. my controp here is a positive one: i think that's his best solo album. it's so much fun and just kaleidoscopic in its subjects. i love 'mess' albums and it exemplifies how that could go accidentally right in the mid-90s. love it so much. and mes is on it!

also idk when this happened, but his jangly 1990 album hellbent on compromise has hit streaming platforms in the usa. very recommended.

Constance Mischievous (Austin), Monday, 14 April 2025 21:01 (eleven months ago)

one month passes...

Come to think of it, Coals To Newcastle, review of which I linked above, is now 15 years old, so you might could get some good deals on a used or even sealed copy---like it says in there, has

OJ's apparently very, very complete output, including tracks rescued from flexi-discs, B-side stingers, 12-inch dub mixes, and demos, alongside the two and a half albums completed and released during the band's 1979–1985 active status: 124 remastered audio tracks total, including 16 previously unreleased. The DVD adds a couple early videos for singles to the TV performances and concert footage previously issued on VHS as Dada With (the) Juice.

dow, Sunday, 18 May 2025 23:30 (ten months ago)


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