The thread where people who think M.I.A is rubbish say M.I.A. is rubbish.

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I think M.I.A. is rubbish.

― moogman, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

So do I.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

you have to be joking..

― james cooper, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

I think M.I.A. is rubbish.

― green uno skip card (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

I think M.I.A. is mostly rubbish.

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

zzzzzzzzz

― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

So how many seconds until we get a "The thread where people who think people who think MIA is rubbish say people who think MIA is rubbish are rubbish"?

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

I thought this was going to be about daft punk

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

M.I.A. is awesome.

What?

Oh.

Fuck.

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

I think M.I.A. is roffle

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

MIA no longer exists as music to me, purely as discourse. Although not actually having the album or mp3s with me is surely a part of that.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

M.I.A. is an abstract concept in my mind because I didn't like the mp3's and deleted them and can only vaguely remember what they sound like.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

zzzzzzzzz

-- heywood jablomi (emot...), March 16th, 2005 7:15 PM.

yeah that was my reaction to her music too.

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

Let the backlash begin!

― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

I like M.I.A.'s music well-enough. But is she the Barry Bonds to everyone else's Joe McEwing? NO, FFS!! She's more like mid-period Mike Sweeney, when every swing produced an RBI!

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

I think M.I.A. is M.E.H.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

That was semi-cathartic. But what I really need is a thread where people who *still* think modern top 40 country is rubbish (even Big & Rich) can say so.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

Let the backlash begin!

To be fair, I've been riding the fence since the beginning. ;-)

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

Without fear of reprisals, right? Cuz the worry that you are gonna get a bullet in the head for daring to let fly with this shocking opinions is one which haunts your every waking minute, yeah.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

i just heard this today!!!

there's this band is SF called cRaCk:WEAREROCK from a couple years ago that all of you MIA people should be checking out.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

i don't think they're nearly as trendy and they're much noisier and have more chaotic beats but MIA's got the same gist down.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

Without fear of reprisals, right? Cuz the worry that you are gonna get a bullet in the head for daring to let fly with this shocking opinions is one which haunts your every waking minute, yeah.

This internet music shit's no joke kid.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember them sounding much like this.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

http://www.crackcave.com/

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

"This internet music shit's no joke kid."

Uh sure.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

give them guys much much better hooks and much much better beats and you might have a point gygax!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

thank god rock is back, huh guys?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

we can be 35 forever!!!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

will out of shape white guys ever run out of fascinating sounds they can make with guitars?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

I'm wondering who is missing the joke here more.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

Uh sure.

It was a joke...in all honesty, I'm not really riding the fence, i just don't care either way. And no, I don't expect anyone to be shocked by or care what i have to say on the matter.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

let's hope not! mia (and um whoever else is trendy and only talked about on the internet anyway unlike rock n roll which definitely still has the PULSE OF THE NATION!!!) is rubbish! 35 (at heart) forever!!!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

funhaters must be this tall to ride this ride (sorry deej, you're out)

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

I don't even understand whats going on.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

this one time i was listening to college radio and omg it changed my life

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

man that new will oldham is great

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

Your body must be 0% straw to ride this ride.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

the great thing about noise bands is the sense of community, the sense that the music matters and is doing something fresh and new

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

not sure what j blount is on about, as i have yet to hear this "rock" person (who is apparently back you say?). but i do agree with the rubbish part, so right on blount you pundit!

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

yeah I think gygax brushed his elbow against a candlestick that was actually the switch that initiates blount's launch sequence.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

you should listen to some college radio man, that shit will blow your mind.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

CHILL

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

YOU MUST CHILL! I HAVE HIDDEN YOUR KEYS!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

this one time this dude on the college radio played a track and at first it was just some really halfassed garage rock like from around 1966 only played like some new york record geeks from 1986 only they only played that part for like a minute or so like it was 1981 or something and then it was just blaargh feedback for like fifteen minutes or so, fucking mindblowing man, like nothing you've barely heard before.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

"college radio" - oh, like The Four Freshmen?

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

i can't chill al, college radio has set me free! halfassed retreads + 'a sense of community' + dead air = liberation brother! join in!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

eman liberation is merely six strings away brother, take a walk with me

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

somebody get the smelling salts, he's gone into an epileptic seizure of snarky sarcasm!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

when nate young promises not to come in your mouth it's the sweetest lie ever told

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)

Um, not sure what rock music seeming a bit exhausted right now has to do with whether or not MIA is any good.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

who is nate young and what does he have to do with me not liking my dancehall watered-down?

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

Especially when ILM's sacred cow of modern country music sounds a lot like warmed over rock music.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

o no! sacred cows! thank god for college radio!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)

Uh, like I said, mentioning college radio =/= making it clear what's so great about M.I.A.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

hold on: are you characterizing college radio as being in opposition of M.I.A.?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:20 (twenty years ago)

Seriously though, I think if I was at a good dance party, I could probably get down to MIA, so maybe "meh" is too negative a characterization.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:20 (twenty years ago)

i didn't go to college. y'see my father was a leader of a rebel army... ;@)

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:22 (twenty years ago)

I have a bit of a gut reaction against someone who compares herself to the PLO and uses it as a badge of cool.

And by the way, I like the Superwolf disc just fine, thanks. A couple of really good songs, the rest is not too bad.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:23 (twenty years ago)

See, I'm basically just Jim DeRogatis, except what he'd be like if he got laid.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

i'm just wondering why everybody didn't represent on the appropriate thread? was college radio blowing your mind that day? maybe some cornell graduate was changing your ideas of what country music is? maybe some brown students were totally rererewriting the rules of rock? or maybe there wasn't enough press to define yourself against yet?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

hurting which badges of cool meet your approval?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

I didn't represent because, like I said, I just found her sort of "meh". Didn't have strong enough feelings at the time. Still don't, really, but felt an urge to weigh in. Wouldn't say "rubbish" though. Good dance music, not fucking mind-blowing.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:29 (twenty years ago)

what is fucking mind blowing?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:29 (twenty years ago)

Blount, uh, maybe ones that don't portray me as a fanged baby-killing devil?

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

which song was that again? wait - are we talking about x-clan all of sudden? (do you hate x-clan?)

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:31 (twenty years ago)

Ok Blount, I'll take your goddamn bait. Albums I've been liking a lot lately:

Miles Davis Live at Fillmore East
Jay-Z - The Blueprint
William Parker - And William Danced
Blonde Redhead - Melody of Certain Damages Lemons

Ok, you happy? Go ahead, make your point.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

hey eman represent on the pop dancehall 2005 better than mia tip recommends already? is it gonna happen this year too? or is it gonna roll to pop reggaeton? or even pop grime? o no, wait, strike that last one - FORTIFY TREEHOUSE! REPEAT: FORTIFY TREEHOUSE!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

The PLO line is in Sunshowers.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)

xxxxxxxxpost - i didn't know about the "appropriate thread" so excuuuse me, Sir Pantiesinnabunch!

(at this point i'm just baiting blount for kicks... yes, i'm that bored)

from that thread:
And M.I.A. is better than just about everybody who came out of Jamaica since "Under Me Sleng Teng"

jesus, that thread is obviously completely retarded coming out the gates with a statement like that. why waste my time?

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:37 (twenty years ago)

PLO we don't surrender = portraying you as a fanged baby-killing devil??!!? WTF?

― More Baffled in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

wait - what badges of cool do those records have exactly?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

No dude, PLO portraying me as a fanged baby-killing devil.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

They HAVE?!?! Where?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

Wait, are you Ariel Sharon?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

dude snrub's the second poster on this thread so how 'retarded' a thread is coming out of the gates is clearly not a problem for you!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

Um, I didn't say those records have badges of cool. You asked me what I think is "mind-blowingly good" lately.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

hurting you're not ariel sharon by chance are you?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

Alex, don't play dumb. I mean Jews. This is pretty well known.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

Pretty well known where? I've not seen any PLO literature that accuses me or my family of being fanged baby killers.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)

Ok, Ok, I'm Ariel Sharon.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)

Got it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

hurting is it your position that plo should've surrendered? i mean when cube (or dre i forget) said he was suicidal like nirvana he wasn't advocating boston riffs

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

http://www.carbuyingtips.com/pics/crash23.jpg

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

hurting do you hate jan and dean?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

xxxxxxxpost - comparing Mr. Snrub's post of "so do I" with chuck eddy dismissing all of modern dancehall with a wave of his hand????

hahahahah!

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.shalomjerusalem.com/jerusalem/jerusalem14.htm

I hate to cite these incendiary Israel propaganda sites, but there's a list of quotes from official PA newspapers if you scroll down.

Anyway, I guess it's arguable that she in no other way relates to the PLO, but that seems unlikely to me.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

I don't even know who Jan and Dean are. May I leave the stand now?

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

deej otm rofflelol

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

dude don't plead ignorance on Jan and Dean, remember the time Blount took dk to task for not knowing who Nelson were!?!?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

AND THEN IT TURNED OUT DK WAS GUNNAR NELSON! MINDS WERE FUCKING BLOWN! IT WAS LIKE THAT EPISODE OF THE PRACTICE!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

or wait was that Jess? (xpost)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

http://www.wchstv.com/abc/thepractice/dylanmcdermott.jpg

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

if we can use the Spader pic as a bridge into some kind of brat pack thing and my Say Anything reference we can really bring this full circle

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:02 (twenty years ago)

Know what I like? that new show that takes place in boston, the one with captain kirk and murphy brown.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:02 (twenty years ago)

For the defense:
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/91/pics/91gcavemanlawyer3.jpg

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

it always confuses me that there have been a bunch of different network shows in the past 10 years with the names Boston Legal, Boston Common and Boston Public.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)

http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/MMPH/250553.jpg

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

That one's boston legal, right? Boston Public didn't last very long, did it. Boston Common was one of the worst sitcoms i've ever seen.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

yeah i think you've ID'd them correctly. I had a friend who was obsessed with Boston Public, I could never suss out if it was an ironic/guilty pleasure OC type thing.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

Boston Common was pretty terrible though yeah. one of those 90s NBC shows that couldn't do shit even with a Friends/Seinfeld lead-in.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:08 (twenty years ago)

that's all david kelley's fault al (well not boston common i don't think). i like boston legal alot more than them other shows.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:08 (twenty years ago)

top 10 best/worst short-lived "must see tv" nbc shows:
hope & gloria

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

the single guy!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

To add to the confusion ... the principal from Boston Public was on this weeks episode of Boston Legal playing ... a high school principal! Good times.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

boston public was the school one right? they changed the cast of that show like every two years. fyvush finkel was on it.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

was it the same character or did he have a different name? (xp)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

There were so many hot teachers at that school.

xp don't recall what his name was on either show.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

yeah Boston Public had Fyvush Finkel. and Michael Rapaport!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

haha yeah they really seemed to keep coming back to the "teacher sleeps with a student" plotline over and over like it was shocking every time

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

even Joey Slotnick tasted the forbidden fruit, if i'm not mistaken

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

i think some apologies are in order for Mr. Snrub.

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

and Slotnick was on The Single Guy! cirlces within circles!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

does anyone want to hear me go on about why Paul Giamatti is a poor man's Joey Slotnick?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

Is Fyvush still alive? I think its clear when I was talking of "hot teachers" I was clearly referring only to him.

(incidently, Al = http://www.microcontentnews.com/defuse.jpg)

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

usa used to show those failed nbc sitcoms weekday mornings

xpost - al yes!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

hahaha yeah right before Wings!

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

what the hell is that? was there a school bombing default plot too? (xp)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

haha and Lowell Mather was the other guy in Sideways! WE'RE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS HERE, PEOPLE

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

(That's you diffusing the thread, xp)

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

Back to Boston Public - it was amazing to me how much the principal seemed in countdown to heartattack mode nearly every episode. My high school superintendent looked like the guy from the Men's Warehouse, "I guarantee it."

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

that's me pouring out the thread and spreading it freely? (xp)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

haha is it spelled difusing then? Weird, that doesn't look right.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

oh and the principal on BP was also a janitor on The John Larroquette Show! more must-see tv!

(with bombs it's "defuse")

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

although i think diffuse is actually more accurate here, but it didn't fit the bomb pic

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

ohhh defusing. xp

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

Wings' Tony Shaloub played a lawyer in The Man Who Wasn't There, which featured Michael Badalucco from...

THE PRACTICE

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

ok guys help me with the must see tv top/bottom 10, or i'm gonna start posting pictures of Eddie Vedder again

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

"Veronica's Closet"

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

These guys must just wait in an NBC basement for someone to call their number, at which point they're ushered into stock roles for a season or two until inevitable cancellation.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

"Caroline In the City"

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

"Coupling"

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

haha yes, thank you! also Caroline & Veronica's were on for a few seasons each, i'm looking for the one season wonders really

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

also=although

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

Check out this site:
http://www.cse.psu.edu/~butler/mustsee.html

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

haha "Stark Raving Mad."

"Suddenly Susan."

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

oh awesome that's going to be my new browser home page

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

haha 'good morning miami'

THANK YOU DEEJ

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

oh man nevermind it doesn't even list a lot of the really bad mid-season replacements :(

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

remember the failed attempt by NBC to push prime time half an hour earlier, when they put five incredibly shitty sitcoms into the 6:30/7:30 slot??

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

oh man Madman of the People! Dabney Coleman had a pretty amazing run of duds back then.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

'final appeal' - i have no memory of this show - what was it about? lawyer sitcom i'm guessing?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

Drexell's Class!!!!!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

Easy Street, starring Ernest Borgnine and Loni Anderson, was one of these sitcoms. Christ, I was 11 at the time, how do I know this??

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

"Final Appeal: From The Files of Unsolved Mysteries"

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

I watch too much TV, or not enough, depending on your perspective wrt must-see-tv.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

so far Union Square is the only one on that page or mentioned in this thread that isn't ringing any bells at all

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

remember "Law and Order: Health Inspector"?

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

They should do "Law and Order: Parking Patrol"

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

ah thanx al. what's this show 'townies' that apparently had molly ringwald, ron livingston, gilmore mom, and jenna elfman?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Plot Summary for
"Union Square" (1997)

Set in a New York diner called Union Square, this sitcom tells the story of a lawyer turned play-writer, an aspiring actress who just got to the Big Apple, an ex-con, an absent-minded waiter, and a neurotic real estate broker.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

i remember Townies!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

I didn't discover the Hughes canon until later on so I didn't understand the significance of the (failed) Ringwald comeback attempt at the time.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

Hard to believe that wasn't a massive smash.

Other bad sitcoms on other networks: that horrible dharma and greg (wtf why did people watch this) and that new Cosby show.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

i'm feeling super denied for never getting to experience it!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

gilmore mom is another one that got kicked around soooo many network shows

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

for a while she was the worst thing to happen to Newsradio pre-Hartman's death

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

remember when John Lovitz guest-starred on Newsradio on 2 seperate occasions as 2 different/unrelated characters, and then post-Hartman was added to the cast as a 3rd character!?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

matt leblanc was on the married with children spinoff which lasted maybe four episodes (i saw one)

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

o man when was gilmore mom on newsradio? i'm totally blanking on that

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

according to IMDB, 4 episodes in season 4

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

if you check out the history of guest actors on Law and Order, there are many semi-known character actors who showed up playing different bad guys/lawyers. Jerry Orbach guest-starred on an early L&O as some sleazeball, I think.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

she was like an 'efficiency expert' who's brought in to evaluate people and decide who to fire

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

she's on like three l&o's in a row too! that's unheard of!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone remember "Nurses"? The "Empty Nest" spinoff?

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

yeah! Empty Nest! man!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

TV is funny. G'Night guys.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

and the guy who was Joe Isuzu!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

haha - the sassy lady who wasn't richard mulligan's daughter was on it right? christ - to think that 'empty nest' had a spinoff.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

Kristy McNicol was HOT in that show. She reminded me of those hot white trash chicks I grew up with, who always seemed a little bit older than everyone else because they smoked and drank and--rumor had it--gave surreptitious blowjobs beneath the bleachers. How she was related in any way to Richard Mulligan was never satisfactorily explained, unless I missed the episode where Dinah Manoff, in an effort to piss her off, spills the beans that she was adopted. Of course in the end, she isn't pissed anymore and loves Mulligan as her father, and neighbor David Leisure provides needed comic relief in an otherwise Very Special Episode by dropping by to sleazily grope at some tit.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

don't forget that Empty Nest was a Golden Girls spin-off! so it was a spin-off of a spin-off!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

omg - "fired up"! i know i watched a couple of episodes of this cuz leah remini was on it and i was 'hey - that girl from saved by the bell that one summer!'

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

mmmm leah remini, speaking of white hot white trash

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

o man, check out this poor bastard - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0275417/

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

man I can't wait for people to see the triple digit post # on this thread in the morning and click expecting more juicy authenticity/Tamil Tigers debate and getting this big ol' raspberry instead.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

I always hated "Mad About You". It's like a show featuring annoying acquaintances of Seinfeld's crew, except we're stuck with them the entire time. Remember when the show bowed off the air? I don't either. Who knew Paul Reiser could be more hateful than he was in Aliens? This might have been worse than "My Two Dads", which had a Stamos-esque Greg Evigan and that daughter, who was hot, at least when I was 13 anyway.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

actually, has Paul Reiser had the most worthless career in Hollywood? He peaked when he was eaten by that alien.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

one of my all-time favorite SNL sketches where they lazily mashed up 2 of the host's projects was Mad About You Alien

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

I went through a brief, dark period last year where I realized that Mad About You came on the Lifetime network late at night and watched it for about a week. I don't want to talk about it.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

sometimes you really hope when you click 'submit' that someone else posted and it gives you the "check for new messages" chance to rethink it, and it goes through with no problems.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

"Just Shoot Me"!

fuck's sake, NBC.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

guys do you think Christgau will write about this thread in the Voice!?!?!?!?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

NBC has aired more sitcoms than anyone else that they're tried to force down our throats A Time to Kill-McConaughey stylee shouting, "This is a CLASSIC, watch me or be IRRELEVANT!" than any other network.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

Christgau probably dropped an "A-" on fucking "Day By Day", so maybe he will.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

word, although I think FOX has more of a tendency toward oppressively aggressive ad campaigns for new shows.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

true, but man, there's just this horrible NYC white yuppie market niche that NBC pwned years ago and doesn't want to give up on. Hard to believe it's the same network that aired "Night Court".

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

haha i just spent ten minutes looking for present day pictures of an actress who played a girl other than winnie who got kevin arnold's attention for four episodes back in 1988.

xpost - "HER FATHER IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY!!!"

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

oh man I was watching Night Court since I was way too young to get half the jokes. is it in reruns anywhere on cable these days?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

I was reading this thread and being entertained, and then I started pretending I'd never heard of any of the people being talked about, and I was even more entertained. I luv ILM.

(btw, I discoverd you can get that Charly 3-CD Treasure Isle rocksteady compilation from assorted vendors thru Amazon for like 7 bucks. which has nothing to do with anything except that it's really cheap and really good and I'm listening to it now so I thought I'd just say, like, people who hate M.I.A. and people who love M.I.A. probably all love rocksteady. right? 54 tracks! with a booklet and everything. not quite internet music, but almost)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

you're getting us off-topic! gypsy mothra how do you feel about Paul Reiser?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

He was great in Diner!

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

(and he was good as the evil corporate guy in Aliens, too.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

I have this theory, also, that Diner is the root of all '90s urban/urbane sitcoms. Not just Mad About You, obv., but Seinfeld, Friends, etc. Diner basically set the blueprint -- young mostly single friends sitting around endlessly wisecracking and arguing with illogical intensity about pop culture (like the Mathis-Sinatra debate, which Mickey Rourke disrupts by picking Elvis).

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

interesting theory. i heart diner and i kinda don't wanna blame all the good and bad associated with that theory on it but it kinda fits.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

So Reiser's the culprit, after all.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

the scene w/ Daniel Stern bullying his girlfriend about how important his records are and how he knows everything about them and she shouldn't touch them is ILM personified

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

also when I think Gutenberg makes his fiancee answer a sports trivia quiz to make or break the engagement

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

I want to know how the horrible Kathy Griffin stole Vicki Lewis' fame.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

god, what a hateful little movie. so classic. (xp)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

yeah there must've been a real "there's not enough room in this town for 2 sassy redheads" vibe at the NBC parties back then

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

The power rankings of 30-ish redheads playing acerbic, hypersexual assistants are as follows:

1) Vicki Lewis, "Newsradio"

some others

351) Kathy Griffin, "Suddenly Susan"

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

of course Vicki Lewis gets to drift peacefully into obscurity while Kathy Griffin becomes the next Joan Rivers, so who's the real loser here?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

and VL did voices in Finding Nemo! beat that!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

yes that's right, Kathy, Charlotte Rae is ahead of you.

Well, that's a good point. but I think Joan Rivers might actually be funnier than Kathy Griffin.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

yeah, KG isn't even that good at being JR. JR is clueless in a kind of forgiveable old people way where she doesn't recognized younger celebrities, whereas KG is clueless in that she keeps trying to crack wise with lame obscure references that have nothing to do with whoever they're talking to on the red carpet and either go over their heads or make them want to get away from her even quicker than otherwise.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

the scene w/ Daniel Stern bullying his girlfriend about how important his records are and how he knows everything about them and she shouldn't touch them is ILM personified

"You never ask me what's on the B-side!"

See, that scene is like a whole Seinfeld episode in abstract.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

All I know is Helen Hunt was no Markie Post.

ihttp://celebritypictures.duble.com/picturesphotospics/M/markiepost/1.jpg

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

http://www.jimsplace.com/jim/mp/mp07.jpg

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

starring j blount as some awesome jacked-up, knife-fight james spader...

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

Arent' we a little off the point here? The point is, M.I.A. is rubbish!!!

― dmun, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Fuck off the point, this is the best sidetrack on a thread in a long while!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

KISS ME I'M RUBBISH

http://www.embellishments.us/images/st%20pats/Shamrock%20Hat.jpg

― eman go bragh (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

I heard that Diplo wears a trucker hat stitched together out of pages from style magazines.

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

this thread has become so awesome

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

i think blount is talking about elastica way way way upthread but i can't be sure.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

you can tell this is a music board 'cos you guys know jack shit about movies. Missing In Action is one of, if not the, crowning achievement in Chuck Norris's straight to video career.

― Lee F# (fsharp), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

missing in action wasn't straight to video, that thing grossed twice as much as broadway danny rose. THEATRICAL!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Movies, shmoovies...

Grime, dancehall and LCD Soundsystem are the only things anyone should be allowed to listen to! The way that Murphy of LCD appropriates the Fall, and postpunk, and Eno without using any radical chic lyrics shows that he is so much more original than M.I.A. He clearly comes from somewhere not nowhere like that rubbish M.I.A.!!!!!

― steve-k, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Get back to movies. Don't let me interfere...

― steve-k, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

this thread has become so awesome

Yes!

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

What are you talking about!? 'Schwarzweiss' is Awesome!

― Jena (JenaP), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Kathy Griffin standup special on Comedy Central right now! GEAR AVERT YOUR EYES

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Tracking back it was all because Blount mentioned The Practice. An inspired move.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

big ups to joy press

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

That was semi-cathartic. But what I really need is a thread where people who *still* think modern top 40 country is rubbish (even Big & Rich) can say so.

HI DERE

Regardless of derail, M.I.A. represents to me the moment where I stopped taking recommendations from ILM forever.

― BARMS, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

and he did that because I misidentified Harvell as him on an old thread! stupidity wins! (xp)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

the only really duddy thing that ilm made me buy was that avalanches album.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

so even though it was safely contained to it's own thread, negative comments about MIA aren't allowed on ILM at all? the trollkiller becomes the troll? (starring sonny bono as j blount)

― jlskdfa, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Forever, forever, forever...

Doesn't a kid say that real dramatically in that baseball movie "The Sandlot"

Nobody said negative comments weren't allowed...

― steve-k, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

The secret with modern top 40 country is that while there have been some very good discussions as to how the format has had to change/readapt to fit the times, it's still as ultimately comfortable as an old shoe for me most of the time as I encounter it (again that's pretty much on visits home but I always like giving an ear and wondering what's currently being played in my dad's car stereo). I might not really actively love it for many reasons but I can't get annoyed with it much either.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Not enough must see tv.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

This may also be the problem with MIA.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

negative comments are allowed, but they have to be based on politics. because it can't possibly be the music you have a problem with, oh no!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

oh, and that fennesz album that ilm made me buy. i didn't really care for that. and that junior boys album i bought for maria for christmas. that was kinda duddy. and maria bought that xiu xiu album, but i don't know if it was cuzza ilm, but that was pretty crappy.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

Nobody said negative comments weren't allowed...

Well, it's more a matter of hyperenthusiasm being met with hypercriticism in the case of MIA, and similar things have happened all the time for many things artistic and otherwise. When you end up feeling middling about the music (me, mostly, like I've muttered MIA's music's nice enough and I would have enjoyed the show but I'm not actively flying the flag), it's slightly awkward.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

oh, and that fennesz album that ilm made me buy. i didn't really care for that. and that junior boys album i bought for maria for christmas. that was kinda duddy

:-(

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i like the mia music. sounds cool. i haven't heard a whole album yet though.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

what can i say, ned? i just never want to hear it. whereas, that kompakt stuff that ilm made me buy, i could listen to that all day.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

I think M.I.A. has watched some NBC shows.

http://www.xlrecordings.com/images/broadcast/posters/galang.jpg

I mean, I could see Dorothy Zbornak wearing that top.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

whereas, that kompakt stuff that ilm made me buy, i could listen to that all day.

:-) (On the other issue, I tease, good sir, opinion difference = rah!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm getting some amusing mental images based on the idea that ILM 'made' anyone buy anything. did a message board march you down to the record store and sternly look on as you took its picks to the checkout counter, scott?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

It doesn't 'make' but it sure as heck hothouses things well.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

i've never trusted ILM as a tastemaker (and even certain posters very conditionally) and when it starts talking crazy talk to me I just turn the shit off (or start posting about must see tv)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

I saw Markie Post walking around Manhattan once.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

diplo is pals with my friend cosmo. cosmo is the one who turned me on to all that baltimore stuff that changed my life. thus, any friend of cosmo's...

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

the 'galang' video isn't that far off from that one credit opening for veronica's closet that one year they used a moby theme. kathy najimy's a better dancer obv.

xpost - stence tell more. was this recently?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

YOU TRENDOID, SCOTT.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

i mean people here like to make fun of people who snap up every Pitchfork "best new music" pick but looking at some people's end of year lists ILM might as well have the same Oprah book club mentality (xp ok fuck it let's talk Night Court)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

scott is cosmo's last name kramer!?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

man I can't wait for people to see the triple digit post # on this thread in the morning and click expecting more juicy authenticity/Tamil Tigers debate and getting this big ol' raspberry instead.

You don't know how happy I am that the thread got derailed in this fashion.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I could see Dorothy Zbornak wearing that top.

I thought that photo was of Hillary Banks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

if i hear enough good stuff about something on ilm and i want to hear something new, i will take recommmendations here seriously. not from everyone obviously, but i know people's tastes on here well enough to figure things out for myself. and no, nobody "made" me buy anthing.but ilm is where i find myself on the internet, so names that pop up on here a lot become stuck in my head. i probably never would have bought a kompakt cd if i didn't hear about them here. i don't read about that stuff elsewhere.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that's reasonable, i was just giving you a hard time, i know

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

blount, this was 2001, I was in NYC on bidness. went up to central park wit my friend lisa on a sunday to hang out, chat, all that. we left the park and were somewhere around columbus circle (or maybe lincoln center, i forget), and there was markie post walking down the street, looking like she was auditioning for a bit part on "sex and the city" wardrobe-stylee, with her IDENTICAL LOOKING AND DRESSED MAYBE 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER. It was WEIRD.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

i should mention that the good stuff i have bought after reading about them on ilm far outweighs the bad. and the truth is, i just don't buy a lot of new stuff. on cd. so i wanna make sure that the stuff i buy is good when i do.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Whoever posted the pic of Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer should be elected to office. (Trivia: What was U.C.L.'s name? Answer below, after my M.I.A. comment.)

I find grime in general sort of disorienting and therefore more interesting than enjoyable. Some of M.I.A.'s stuff (and Dizzee for that matter) gets me revved up initially, but I can only take it in limited doses.

(Answer: Ki-Rok)

― ClevelandPat, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

ILM's never really convinced me to buy anything and certainly I only really joined to chat about what I did know already, especially pop, which seems less of a going concern since the halcyon days of 2002-3 9rolling singles threads excepted, but only the major acts garner that sort of attention now, AFAIK). However, some of the stuff ILM has lead me to download or be gmailed was really beyond a bore. Of course, I'm a cynic when it comes to human nature, so the less expectations you have of people, the less botherd you are.

(Best ILM tips: Kiley Dean, Rex The Dog and Stars. And a couple of Kompakt thingies. Worst: everything else (this does not necessarily include the gmails))

― BARMS, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

But but but BARMS, surely Disco Inferno also counts. *sniffles*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

"It's just 'Kirok' your honor"

or my favorite: "Kirok's words are as true now as they were in his time."

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

i am really enjoying the new grime comp i got in the mail(the one on vice). and no, ilm did not send it to me in the mail.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and later got thawed out by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuses me! Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my BMW.. and run off into the hills, or wherever.. Sometimes when I get a message on my fax machine, I wonder: "Did little demons get inside and type it?" I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts. But there is one thing I do know - when a man like my client slips and falls on a sidewalk in front of a public library, then he is entitled to no less than two million in compensatory damages, and two million in punitive damages. Thank you.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

phil hartman is the secret hero of this thread

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Phil Hartman is the not-so-secret hero of life.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

"I'm sorry your honor, I was listening to the voices coming out of this STRANGE MODERN INVENTION!"

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

But but but BARMS, surely Disco Inferno also counts.

In the 'crap' column, yeah.

― BARMS, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I could see Dorothy Zbornak wearing that top.

This is true. Although it also looks like something Jo Polniaczek might have worn, too. She strikes me as being more secondary character on Facts of Life than a Golden Girl.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Psyche! I couldn't rip your disc to iTunes, but still ;-). They belong in the 'good' after Stars.

― BARMS, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Psyche!

I was about to say, jeez!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

OMG, you are so right, Leon. I bet M.I.A. buys her clothes at Over Our Heads.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

. Although it also looks like something Jo Polniaczek might have worn, too.

Yeah, either way, she's got a definite 1980s Polish TV character vibe.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

I like the idea of Cosmo Kramer getting down to b-more club. He would be accompanied by a laugh track.

― deej., Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Markie Post is 55! wtf

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

put her on that sexy over 45 thread.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

who/what is MIA?

― mikeybreeze, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

a question a child might ask, but not a childish question.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

M.I.A. is the new name given to an artist who lacks talent but who is hyped beyond comprehension by a select few internet forum fanatics.

― moogman, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

I think MIA is more-or-less rubbish.

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

she's pretty good, ian!

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

Well, gosh, this thread has made me go back to MIAs site and I've listened to Galang a few more times. There is *something* about it. It does get stuck in my head. The production is subtly original. Her voice is sort of infectious, and I like the way she doesn't quite look like a celebrity, wears baggy shirts to cover up her apparent lack of a figure, and her funny-looking dance moves. The way she says "Geddan geddan geddan" keeps echoing in my ears. The other songs don't sound different enough to me from that one, so I still predict this is something everyone will get tired of pretty quickly. But like I said, I think I could get my groove on to this.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

I.A.N.

― MVP (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

me licky boom boom down

http://www.fluxmunki.com/obsessions/snow/i/snow2.jpg

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

John Laroquette Show! It wasn't thursdays tho, but some other day? Anyone remember? The pynchon episode!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

I.A.N.
Bitch, who called me?

I remember The John Larroquette Show! I can't remember any of the episodes, but my mother always made tapes of it for my father while he was in jail.

― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

http://heat.iwarp.com/Sounds/greatass.wav

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

john larroquette show was a great show! i know for a fact this has been discussed on ilx. it should've been on thursdays, nbc fucked him right up his emmy winning ass.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

I think Markie Post was the first older woman that I was really attracted to.

― Lingbertt, Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

All this Night Court talk and no mention of Bull?

[Grandpa Simpson]For shaaaaame![/Grandpa Simpson]

― ClevelandPat, Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

Ahem...
Shouldn't we wait until the artist in question becomes mainstream superhuge before we start with the backlash and accusations of "selling out"?
Granted, for the record, i've only heard one MIA track ("Bannanaskit") if thats represents the standard quality of an MIA track, then she really does suck eggs with the horsepower of a 17amp shop-vac.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)

The further the conversation gets from "Must See TV," the worse it is.

― deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

(although it would appear that we're always no more than 2 degrees from a once-actor from NBC's late 90s golden era of cancellation)

― deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:17 (twenty years ago)

M.I.A. is rubbish!

Wait, am I in the right thread still?

― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't see how this could be the right thread for anything.
Anyway, I've listened extensively to Arular and Piracy and caught her live and the bottom line is that she's fun.
Diplo is fucking amazing.
Ya'll haters got issues.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

i don't hate her or the music, i just find her mc'ing/singing to be wack like Timmy Hilfiger.

― eman (eman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

(cue Night Court bassline)

― eman (eman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

her apparent lack of a figure

I heard she doesn't actually have a physical body at all. She's like a hologram of something.

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 17 March 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

I think I had a crush on Markie Post when I was little. I guess it's justified.

― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

One of the members of cRACK:WAR was behind Alex in SF when he blurted out their name last night and she glanced at our table!

She was the white out-of-shape 35-year old guy with the guitar.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

Also: Fuck Chipper Jones, Tag Team, and Billy Beer. ;-D

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

wait, I like M.I.A.

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

She was the white out-of-shape 35-year old guy with the guitar.

-- gygax! (gygax0...) (webmail), March 18th, 2005.

??????????????????

― Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 18 March 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

well, dr. tyrell, I don't.
(*pokes out Dr Tyrells eyes*)

― Roger Batty (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 18 March 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.americasbabes.com/shecats/markie-post-609.jpg

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 18 March 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

MIA is quite good and little more.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...

http://azizisbored.com/videos/MIA%20Story.mov

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

that's funny!

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

yeah! his website is worth a look.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Having just read through this entire thread, I've concluded that Must See TV is about a million times more interesting than MIA.

No mention of The Michael Richards Show? My buddy and I anticipated that show for months our freshman year of college.

Also, the post upthread about how Diner spawned the whole mid-1990s sitcom phenom (friends sitting around talking about shit) failed to mention that Tim Daly (of Must See TV Wings fame) was in that movie.

― PB, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

This thread should have been locked after the first post! I'm still amazed that people don't get horribly embarrassed when they find themselves agreeing with Mr. Snrub.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

http://www.arcadeflyers.net/flyers/konami/png/18005602.png
is gud

― beatles fan, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

aziz ansari is a badass

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086770/

My 7th grade honors english teacher once took the time to explain to the class that Night Court really wasn't how things worked.

Also: Harry Anderson's mullet on Night Court vs Harry Anderson's mullet on Dave's World(the show featuring Meshach Taylor, best known as Hollywood from the Mannequin movies, ALSO starring James Spader!)

Plus, John Larroquette's show was great for the first two years when it was dark as fuck and about a recovering alcoholic rather than the season three retool where he got a wife & a kid.

that show was the first place i ever saw Bob Goldthwait break character.

oh yeah, and check out the list of Night Court guest stars

― kingfish completely hatstand (Kingfish), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

so.. uh, getting back to MIA. yeah, she's crap. no one will remember this album in november.

― michael burble, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

MIA is rubbish.

So was Becker.

― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Guys, guys. There was a mistake in the marketing of this record. This is something called "pop" music which appeals to a certain type of listener. Please return to the joyless ghetto of corny indie fuxxorcisms on pitchfork.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, pop music right now is truly joy-inspiring. Pitchfork is sucking all the joy out of music, etc etc.

― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Spencer Chow in...The Fuxxorcism

― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Spencer, you're from LA

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

EVERYONE EVERYWHERE, EVEN PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY LIKE IT ARE HAVING TO CONSTANTLY FIGHT PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPULSES REAFFIRMING TO THEM THAT MIA IS PUTRIFYING ELK VOMIT! IN OTHER WORDS, MIA IS THIS YEAR'S 3 O'CLOCK.

― michael burble, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

This argument would make sense if you were talking about The Killers or Fall Out Boy. However, you aren't.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Spencer's like Candyman...say M.I.A. three times and he magically appears...

― Candicissima (candicissima), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Well anyway, MIA: still rubbish.

― David Merryweather Goes To Far (scarlet), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

L.A. is rubbish too and Spencer is a NERRRRRRD!

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

Spencer's like Candyman...say M.I.A. three times and he magically appears...

So Candyman responds to the repetition of "MIA" as well?

― michael burble, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that was the big twist for the next sequel

― Candicissima (candicissima), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Warrior Queen > MIA

― ugly and mean, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

People are completely glossing over the Mr. Snrub issue.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Spencer and Dan OTM

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

There's that goddamn acronym again. The OTHER stupid acronym besides MIA.

― michael burble, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

OH NOES AN ARCONYM! FLEE1111!!!!!!!!!

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

LOL, DAN OF ILM OTM RE MIA

― michael burble, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

^_^

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

I was considering making a post in the Kala thread saying "is there a thread where I can express my total lack of enthusiasm for anything M.I.A." but wouldn't out of fear of reprisal and my accompanying lack of nerve.

― mehlt, Saturday, 25 August 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

M.I.A. is rubbish, thanks for saying it.

― Bimble, Saturday, 25 August 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

i can't believe the tv show derail was two years ago :-O

― deej, Saturday, 25 August 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

;(

― am0n, Saturday, 25 August 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

so.. uh, getting back to MIA. yeah, she's crap. no one will remember this album in november.
-- michael burble, Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:35 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

― Jordan Sargent, Saturday, 25 August 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

Still hilarious.

― jim, Saturday, 25 August 2007 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

will out of shape white guys ever run out of fascinating sounds they can make with guitars?
-- j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:46 PM (2 years ago)

oh, the ironing.....

― gershy, Saturday, 25 August 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

maya is fly her tracks are not

― luriqua, Saturday, 25 August 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

she needs new mentors otr

― luriqua, Saturday, 25 August 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

I think MIA is rubbish, and I haven't even heard them.

But who cares what music sounds like, anyway?

― PhilK, Sunday, 26 August 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

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