Great Japanese Pop

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I've got into the likes of shonen knife, cornelius and the fantastic plastic machine lately, anyone know some other great Japanese pop bands?

naz, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

SMAP. (hah!)

helenfordsdale, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Corniche Cammomile!

Pop-off Tuesday!

jel, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I always liked Mr. Children for the name value. I mean, that's a *lovely* group name.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So is Mr Mister, Ned. ;-)

helenfordsdale, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah. Too adult. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Incomplete list: Citrus, Crazy Curl, Buffalo Daughter, Yximalloo, Yukari Fresh, Takako Minekawa, Kahimi Karie, Hirono Nishiyama, Nobukazu Takemura, Nobuyasu Sakonda, Aki Tsuyuko, Asao Kikuchi... and of course the Boredoms.

Momus, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pop Off Tuesday.

Chris Lyons, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh shoot, someone already said them.

Chris Lyons, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Esrevnoc.

John Darnielle, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chara, particularly the stuff she did on Junior Sweet and that duet she did with...umm...I forget her name. Yuki, perhaps?

Michael Daddino, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Spiders, The Carnabeats, The Tigers, and The Jaguars are all good examples of 60's Japanese garage rock (called GS or Group Sounds in Japan). The "GS I love you" compilations are great, but a little pricey.

The last 10 years has seen some decent if a little uneven garage action from Teengenerate, The 5-6-7-8's, Texaco Leatherman, Gasoline, Guitar Wolf, The King Bros. and The Zoobombs.

A friend of mine once gave me a tape by a really good indie rock japanese band, mid-nineties. They had a song called "White Volkswagen". Female vocals, mostly in english. I can't remember what they were called, but I think it began with an S. Ring any bells with anyone?

fritz, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sugar Plant, esp. "Happy/Trance Mellow" (or is it "Happy Trance/Mellow"?)

Curt, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No one's mentioned Tomoe Shinohara?

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

can i say that Ms Kahimi rules my small universe , etc. that and you have to listen to momus when he says such things cause he knows her

anthony, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Try Yukari Fresh as well

Jez, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

er why has no one mentioned Pizzicato Five? much better than the ever so overrated cornelius.

david, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Curt is spot-on about that Sugarplant record, one of my favorite things about the past several years. Although I can imagine it making more than a few ILMers want to puke.

If the first disc is "Happy" and the second disc is "Trance/Mellow," then the whole thing would be ... ummm ... curses, who knows.

Nitsuh, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Color Filter = good. Sugar Plant = good. Kahimi Karie = good. She and Momus played a show together in LA a couple of years back, great fun. Etc., etc.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll second Takako Minekawa. And does Cibo Matto count? I never get tired of 'Sci-fi Wasabi'

Dave225, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I heard something at a party once & can't find it now. It was something like "Shugkounikina" .. any ideas?

Dave225, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There is a song called "Panda Riot" by a group called Our Hour on an old Darla comp. It's good!!

jel, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Shiina Ringo is sehr cute and plays guitar and has weird outfits and writes neato songs. And UA too--she is cool, gorgeously low voice. Avoid the mainstream Japanese stars, and avoid Puffy AmiYumi. They are cute but songs so bad!

Mickey Black Eyes, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yo Eugene, nice to see u here! What I've heard of Cornelius' new album "Point" is very good. Even better than "Fantasma". All I've heard of Takako Minekawa was "Fantastic cat" and it's rubbish.

Michael Bourke, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

there's a couple of Sadistic Mika Band songs that are quite good, even if the covers of their records were the best thing about them.

philT, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Takako Minekawa!!! Not rubbish at all. Though I believe she recently married Cornelius and had a baby, so may not release anything new for a while. The stuff Ned already mentioned. Also Chocolat, Hideki Kaji, Pizzicato 5 (obviously), 800 Cherries, other stuff on Trattoria like Bridge, and the magazine Beikoku Ongaku, which features more indiepop style stuff (Japanese and otherwise).

g, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Shiina Ringo is my role model.

Honda, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I must say, though, that while J-pop is great, Thai pop is better. A friend puts the difference between Japanese pop and most other Asian pop musics (save China, which is a whole different deal) thus: "Japanese pop songs are like dissertations about themselves." Which is true and is part of what makes them great, but the Thai stuff -- Zaza, Bubble Girls, Tata Young, Nicole Theriault, the almost unbelievable Triple Shake -- has a sort of unforced abandon to it. Or as unforced an abandon as can be simulated by ProTools.

John Darnielle, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Morning Musume!

A Nairn, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I just got Mr. Children's Deep Sea (i think), it's fukai ume. It has that extremely catchy hit "mashingan wo futsu hanase" (i think). I would compare them to the goo goo dolls, and they've got some cool Cornelius style TV channel switching on the album. Overall not bad, but it's what you would expect from japanese top forty.

A Nairn, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that's all nice, but WHERE can I find all that stuff... any www download options maby...?

richelleux, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Puffy are periodically capable of greatness. The first six or so singles (approximately from "Asia no Jun Shin" to "Ta Ra Ra Ran") have a unique blend of Japanese charm and trad western swirling pop structure. And Konishi's remix of "Kore Ga.." is genius.

Also Mansfield's mini-album - can't recall the name - the one with his astonishing version of "The New Pollution" with Yukari Fresh.

Don't know much current 2002 J-pop, but Morning Musume are amusingly inept and occasionally hit the POP! button, while Speed's "White Love" has to be my all-time favourite quasi-sophisticated teenage pop guff.

Any more advice would be cool as I'm going to be DJ at a "cool J-pop" night in London soon.

Darren, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thx!

naz, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

most anything on trattoria records is quality. salon music, seagull screaming kiss her kiss her, dots + borders, yoshie, kahimi, hideki kaji, citrus, indian rope, takako minekawa...

escalator is also a great label for that type of stuff... yukari fresh, losfeld, neil + iraiza, american rock, cubismo grafico, miniflex (miniflex is GREAT)...

buffalo daughter is of cuorse great, they have a new one coming out in about 2 weeks called "i"... check that out most definately.

also investigate maher shalal hash baz and nagisa ni te, who have recently had retrospectives released on Stephen Pastel's Geographic Records in the UK. much different stuff, more of a belle and sebastian/syd barrett/neil young circa "on the beach" feel to it... good savant psych pop. they have become 2 of my favorite bands as of recent.

and, i back nick (momus) wholeheartedly when i say

BOREDOMSBOREDOMBOREDOBOREDBOREBORBOB

also check out OOIOO, yoshimi from boredoms' other semi-main band... feather float has been issued in the US on birdman and i pretty easy to get, and their last LP gold & green is also essential... and if you like that there's a remix LP of those 2 albums out on shock city/trattoria...

for some classic j-pop try the plastics, 80's new wave japanese devo shit... or pink lady, 70's japanese bizarro abba type shit...

i know i am missing stuff but there is a lot of great shit...

dig in and enjoy!!

mike j, Saturday, 19 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

related to this, does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Lailove (Laila France) ep "L'Amour Sese Fomridable" (or something) that was released on L'appareil Photo?

thanks

g, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
ok I am certainly liking shiina ringo

a websearch turned up some joker hosting her new album online, I'd mention Shuukyo and Stem, who can tell me more?

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 05:26 (twenty years ago)

Music in Japan costs too damn much!

IAMNOTMOMUS, Friday, 4 June 2004 05:28 (twenty years ago)

good god, I just read the translation of the album title -- "Chlorine, Semen, Chestnut Flower"

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 05:44 (twenty years ago)

Plus-Tech Squeeze Box, PATE (formed from the remnants of Bridge) and Fab Cushion to thread - actually, the whole of Vroom Records kick butt.

Trattoria has become 1ct Records if I remember correctly.

Crickets Dance On Tequila Booty (Barima), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:12 (twenty years ago)

http://cif.rochester.edu/~xm/Buffalo%20Daughter%20featuring%20Cibo%20Matto%20-%20Stereotype%20C.mp3

HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:23 (twenty years ago)

On a more guitar-glam tip, Plastic Tree.

Anybody remember when Pink Lady had a weekly variety show on U.S. teevee? I think it was a summer replacement thing, mid-70s. That shit was wierd.

briania (briania), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah milton just get all her stuff. probably in this order: 2nd album, 3rd, 1st, cover song double album, and live triple mini-album.

and then... 2004 Pop albums from Japan I like to varying degrees:
Sweets - Sweets
Ex-Girl - Endangered Species
Tommy February6 - Tommy Airline
Olivia - Lost Lolli
W - Duo Uandu
Yukari Rotten - Not Dead

scissors (Honda), Friday, 4 June 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago)

the cover song album seems scary. she sounds very different & constrained singing in english (I found samples here). it's certainly mainstream but I like some of the singles very much.

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Anybody remember when Pink Lady had a weekly variety show on U.S. teevee? I think it was a summer replacement thing, mid-70s. That shit was
wierd.

Late seventies.

In celebration

It's on DVD

I saw the damn thing when it first aired!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago)

i love japanese chixxx :(

HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Oh, crap, how could I have forgotten Pink Lady's sidekick "Jeff"? In a just world, he should have been able to parlay this connection into huge stardom in Japan.

briania (briania), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I was wondering if that would come out on DVD, and had assumed it never would!

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago)

that Shiina Ringo album (which I also just got and promptly ordered all of her other albums) is INCREDIBLE

ryan (ryan), Friday, 4 June 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago)

which shiina ringo album?

Karuki Zamen Kuri no Hana?

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:32 (twenty years ago)

yes!

ryan (ryan), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago)

most of the lyrics are pop beyond shame but I like shuukyo.

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:11 (twenty years ago)

and morphine.

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:26 (twenty years ago)

Cibo Matto and Butter 08. Also, Deerhoof's vocalist is a Japanese female.

Adrienne Nero, Saturday, 5 June 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago)

i love japanese chixxx

Yeah... but who doesn't?

Ever try staying a week in Tokyo or Yokohama without having your head explode from all the hot chicks walking around like the end of the world is not near? Damn near impossible!

lucas (lucas), Sunday, 6 June 2004 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Ever try staying a week in Tokyo or Yokohama without having your head explode from all the hot chicks walking around like the end of the world is not near? Damn near impossible!

The same's true for Nagoya, Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima, Fukuoka - the whole place is ridiculous.

Also

SUPERCAR

are the best band in Japan.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 7 June 2004 03:00 (twenty years ago)

Also, Deerhoof's vocalist is a Japanese female.

uh... japanese-american. they're from san francisco, california, usa.

not really "pop" either...

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 7 June 2004 05:59 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...
Came across a new J-pop site in English. It's got some pretty good information about bands that maybe a lot of people haven't heard of yet.

nippop

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 21 February 2005 04:54 (twenty years ago)

http://nippop.com/

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 21 February 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
What's up in 2006 pleaszze.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 1 April 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B000BVXFQ4.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.keikaku.net/reviews/102

it should be noted that I really don't like about 99% of j-pop though, it gives me the rabies. but I've been listening to Adult 2-5 times a week since it came out in January.

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 2 April 2006 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

I got a really good album by Maaya Sakamoto in the mail the other day; it's on Geneon (which mostly releases anime soundtracks) in the U.S. All the music is composed and produced by Yoko Kanno, who composed the music for Cowboy Bebop, Macross Plus and my personal favorite, Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

I recently heard a song by Yuki for the first time, "I U Mee Him" I think it's called, and thought it was bee-u-teefull. Anybody know more about her music and what to seek out?

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

As usual, I agree with Milton.

And thanks for the link to that site! I hadn't seen it before...not bad.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 2 April 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm liking Adult.

I'm looking for something that's really poppy and dancey though. I want like a japanese girls aloud.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 2 April 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

Don't we all! I know next to nothing about japanese girl groups, though, there seems to be this really strong gender divide, all the english-language j-pop blogs seem to be guys going on about hello!project/morning musume/girl idols and the j-pop livejournals are girls chatting Johnny's Entertainment/wFl/general boybandism. Which as far as I can tell is surprisingly enough a reflection of how it is in japan, boybands for teenage girls as standard but girl-groups not, aimed instead at yer sliiiightly older males. But then female solo artists of the singer-songwriter type and female-fronted guitar/etc type groups are often for the girls as well, in Japan even if not in western j-pop fandom (stuff like AI, Every Little Thing, Mika Nakashima, all that).

I'm not really feeling j-pop 2006 yet, it doesn't feel like anything very exciting has happened, musically at least (the current number one selling like 750,000 copies in its first week is more uhm culturally interesting?). Otsuka Ai has a new single out, which is supercute (music video on youtube here), but LOVE COOK was a bit of a disappointment, so I'm not expecting too much. Morning Musume's last single was good, if a bit typical.

The j-pop i'm listening to most at the moment is straightforward pop-rock and eighties chartpop, though, not post-shibuyakei stuff. Also m-flo, who are a.ma.zing, but more r'n'b/hiphop than j-pop. 2004's 'astromantic' is the album to go for with them.

permanent revolution (cis), Sunday, 2 April 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Here are some new Japanese pop albums that I expect to be pretty great, based on the song samples.

Yukihiro Takahashi - Blue Moon Blue

http://www.neowing.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=TOCT-25939

If you listen to the samples, you'll see it's in a similar vein as the Takahashi/Hosono Sketch Show collaborations, though bordering slightly more on the pop than electronic side.

Tomita Lab - Shiplaunching

http://www.neowing.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=AICL-1731

Jazzy pop with lots of guest vocalists (including Takahashi on one track).

Buffalo Daughter - Euphorica

Can't find samples for this...but they're one of the more well-known j-pop bands I suppose.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

I really like the Yo Hitoto song "Hito-Shian", but I've never been able to find it outside my rip from the ending of a movie.

jackl (jackl), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Fancy Dick

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Domofuki Murata

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Massage Emancipator

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Crispity Nuggets

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

Been listening excessively to a rather sweet post-Shibuya-kei record from last year: Refely's 9-Cliches. It's like a three way between Cornelius/Flipper's Guitar, Max Tundra and Shiina Ringo.

BARMS, Monday, 3 April 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the elepop band The Aprils have three fantastic crossbreed indie-electroclash-Game Boy-good time pop albums, all released over the past 3 years.

BARMS, Monday, 3 April 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and on a Yuki tip, her 2005 album "Joy" is v v good.

permanent revolution (cis), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

The Happy End from the seventies and Flipper's Guitar. Venus Peter. Are Jumprope an originally japanese band? Japancakes.

antonio, Monday, 3 April 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for the Yuki tip. I was wondering if anybody noticed.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone mention Tujiko Noriko? I love her much.

Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

i would have replied quicker about Yuki but I started listening to the album and forgot about posting! (actually I often - shamefully? - get Yuki confused with Chara, that same slightly countrified, gentle acoustic pop with the high girl voice breathy rather than squeaky, so I had to check before i recced.)

The great thing about 'joy' is that I expect the usual gentle sweetness, but the first song is so startlingly synthpop (crypto-rave, even!) --
http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=153YM54R40SLM0PQ01UOPX10PR

permanent revolution (cis), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

check out Denki Groove who at their pinnacle (that's "A" and "Orange") are a combination of boredomsy shouting, slick high speed rapping, rephlexesque techno geekery with nods & winks to devo, supercamp electro pop disco house etc, daft sing songy songs, football chants, vangelis, and the list goes on.
unfortunately they were kind of off the boil before and after these two albums.

bob snoom (vestibule), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

They don't have any new stuff out because they broke up a year ago, but please check out Supercar. They put so many of the artists mentioned on this thread to shame.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Can't say I've grounds to agree with that so far.

BARMS, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Xinlisupreme

S- (sgh), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, permanent revolution! Thanks for the ysi!
I've never heard of Chara, but then again I really haven't heard of most of the music on this thread, I'd really like to though, I'm just barely discovering this stuff.
Has anybody heard the album "Prismic", by Yuki?? I've heard good stuff about it so far.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:45 (nineteen years ago)

Is there some place I can buy some of this stuff on CD for non-ridiculous prices? (Even a bargain download site might be good.)

Also compilations would be a good idea, as brought up on another thread.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 8 April 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.timeinc.net/time/asia/images/covers/501030811cov_white.gif

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 8 April 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Another yes to comps. I've got a chunk of Pizzicato Five, which I guess I like but never really want to listen to, but I'm sure there must be more out there. Is there one of those ILM "Rough Guide" lists out there somewhere?

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Saturday, 8 April 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.yesasia.com/ seems to be what most people use, I've no idea how good it is though. amazon.jp ship internationally as well.

"non-ridiculous prices" - Japanese albums tend to cost ¥3000 or so, which is, what, $25 US? The price is usually pretty fixed, it's written on the cd packaging even. Alas ebookoff - second-hand and hence not cripplingly expensive - don't seem to deliver outside japan. Sometimes yesasia will stock an 'international version' (ie a general non-japan asian version i think?) which is drastically cheaper though.

permanent revolution (cis), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh. This thread reminds me that I lost all of my j-pop in the Great MP3 Player Crash of '05, and it makes me very sad.

I will second (third? fourth?) the Yuki recommendations in this thread wholeheartedly. Except I'll add that her solo albums (and, to some extent, her work with Judy & Mary) don't really have many of the tropes that one might associate with prototypical j-pop. Musically, I think they probably sound much less foreign to Western ears, but they're very solid and well worth checking out.

Here's the video for Yuki's "End Of Shite" (from Prismic, which is indeed great):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrC7zxjGCGc&search=Pv

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Probably should mention that said video is maybe just slightly NSFW (for brief simulated masturbation, upskirt exploration of cartoon gnomes).

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Does anybody have the new Kurahashi Yoeko album 'Tadaima'? There's a review of it on the keikaku site Milton linked to. I haven't heard it yet, but I have 'Tokyo Piano', which I think is really cool. It's got more of an old-school '70s/80s J-pop vibe. However, her vocals are always really off key and hard to take. I mean I think she must do it on purpose...they'll definitely turn off a lot of listeners. I'm hoping they're slightly more restrained on 'Tadaima'.

I'm going to order 'Tadaima' and the Yukihiro Takahashi album 'Blue Moon Blue' from cdjapan.co.jp

Never used yesasia...but cdjapan is at least reliable.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

So what would be worth checking out by Judy and Mary??

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 9 April 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

eight years pass...

http://www.waxpoetics.com/music/mixtape/citypop-japanese-aor-mixtape

Japanese DJ Bawxxx recently hipped us to his mix of citypop (Japanese AOR), lovingly called Melancholy of Suburbia, and we’re feeling this! Good luck ever finding these records! We don’t know much about Mr. Bawxxx, but with a little snooping we found out that he apparently hails from Nagoya and eats quite well!

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:32 (ten years ago)

i've been listening to tons of japanese electronic pop of the 1980s, esp. 1980-84, lately. there doesn't seem to be as much of a division between what we might consider "pop" versus "experimental" in japan. that goes for music as much as, say, film. people like hosono and others move freely--even on a single album--between modes. i like that aspect a lot. not that western pop music doesn't have its experimental elements.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:34 (ten years ago)

that said, the "city pop" of the kind on that mix is not very experimental, but it can be very enjoyable. i don't have my laptop to hand to check out the names of the bands/albums in that mode that i've been enjoying, but i can check later. if anyone cares.

the album i've been addicted to in particular is a one-off studio group called "aragon" (that's what the album is called, too). it's a kind of electronic MOR/jazz fusion/4th world/ambient thing. which could sound terrible. amazingly my fave track is on youtube, i'm curious what others think. i think it's lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAqNzycK7rY

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:37 (ten years ago)

oh yeah, I love the closer on that aragon album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSBH2EGcNHo

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:51 (ten years ago)

oh man, somebody else who knows this record! it seems hopelessly obscure. good luck finding an actual copy in the states.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:01 (ten years ago)

don't have a physical copy myself, but yeah, it's a good one!

if you haven't heard it, I'd recommend the ichiko hashimoto's beauty if you dig that aragon lp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UELvVDDXEG0

similar understated experimental '4th world' pop vibe on a couple tracks (it's pretty eclectic tho, others are nothing like that one)

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:22 (ten years ago)

these 80s japanese LPs are some of things i don't feel bad about downloading, since in many cases i'd never find a copy. in some cases there have been reissues but given typical japanese prices and exchange rates they'd be like $50+

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:36 (ten years ago)

also it'd be hard for me to even look them up since i don't read kanji :(

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:36 (ten years ago)

haha yeah :-/

going back to this - there doesn't seem to be as much of a division between what we might consider "pop" versus "experimental"

def also really like that about hosono & lots of his contemporaries from that era. his work in the 80s kinda straddles the line between the two but even his ambient music has this abstracted catchiness to it. maybe bc a lot of this crew also did work for movies, anime, video games, commercials, etc.?

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:46 (ten years ago)

*bookmarked*

the all man brothers (clouds), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:51 (ten years ago)

ooh that hashimoto track is nice

here's one from colored music LP from 1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHL2e9VkiyU

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:22 (ten years ago)

here's some hosono-produced weirdness from 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTiY4RbIaZc

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:29 (ten years ago)

that's not a takahashi track? it's on one of his solo lps, so just assumed it was

super hilarious hosono cmaeos in this sandii vid btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxSV8Xu0RUk

original bgm, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:38 (ten years ago)

i think takahashi did it first, def his roxy music track -- so good.

the all man brothers (clouds), Thursday, 30 October 2014 04:47 (ten years ago)

re: finding aragon in the US...probably like 4 or 5 years ago i found a copy in the collection of a weird reclusive ex-EBM DJ from florida that used to be a buyer at princeton record exchange back in the day. still had the store-made hype sticker from (i'm assuming) the 80s, which immediately had me pretty stoked:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/spencerd63/IMG_6603_zps37d828c7.jpg

not sure how to post pictures here, hopefully that worked. but yeah, remarkable album. there's a really weird "making-of" type LP called "the studio works" that was issued the same year made up of studio demos and outtakes, worth seeking out if you're a fan. nishimatsu kazuhiro (the vocalist) has a solo album form the same time too, though it's titled a little too far into schmaltz territory for my taste.

Spencer D (reassemblage), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:08 (ten years ago)

you're the same spencer d that did the "fairlights mallets and bamboo" mixes, yeah?

clouds, Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:38 (ten years ago)

yup.

and oops, i meant tilted, not titled.

Spencer D (reassemblage), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:56 (ten years ago)

sweet, love those mixes and play them often

clouds, Thursday, 30 October 2014 19:15 (ten years ago)

yeah those mixes are the best, i bow to you spencer.

btw the aragon vocals are sometimes "in japanese" per the sticker but i think a lot of them are just wordless oohs and aaahs etc.

there's a really weird "making-of" type LP called "the studio works" that was issued the same year made up of studio demos and outtakes, worth seeking out if you're a fan.

ha, i'm not likely to find this anywhere. YSI?

the album i've been listening to the last few days is satoshi ashikawa's "wave notation 2: still way" which is pretty purely ambient, and yet like some of hosono's ambient work (or eno's for that matter) there's a subliminal catchiness to it. i believe you can download the whole thing on root blog, just google around and you'll find it.

what else? there's the mallet-heavy yet (yet?) awesome mkawju ensemble LP from 1981, most of it written/produced by future film-score god joe hsaishi. can't seem to find a clip on youtube.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 31 October 2014 04:47 (ten years ago)

<3 still way so much. is it really the only thing ashikawa did? was never able to find any info about other recordings.

original bgm, Friday, 31 October 2014 16:03 (ten years ago)

can we talk abt how great miharu koshi's "boy soprano" is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8EPTE41c5Q

clouds, Friday, 31 October 2014 16:28 (ten years ago)

Lost that one in a crash. Only have one song now from it. Rice Music from Ippu Do also.

Digging the second volume of Fairlights, Mallets and Bamboo.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:31 (ten years ago)

"sur la terra" - super beautiful hosono production

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKUcR2Z9DYY

original bgm, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 06:20 (ten years ago)

starts ~4mins in

original bgm, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 06:23 (ten years ago)

New music from Furukawa Miki:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KS1qzueR90

Tokyo Crow, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 18:49 (ten years ago)

I pretty much consider this the perfect pop song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tdMHZRiGd8

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 21:58 (ten years ago)

this city pop mix is p tight overall but mariya takeuchi "plastic love" at 31:20 is a monster:
https://soundcloud.com/bawxxx/melancholy-of-suburbia#t=31:20

original bgm, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:33 (ten years ago)

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14RxICxtM5Q

So good. Been listening to Miharu Koshi all across youtube. Lots of cool stuff.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:00 (nine years ago)

And yes it does have a Led Zeppelin reference in the lyrics.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:01 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsPXl-OxW28

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:02 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZSpj5R5L4

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 03:10 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIVGQ-B9G38&list=PL36B51C25BBF3B00B

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 03:13 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2wW--l1OHk

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 03:14 (nine years ago)

electro prom in the foggy forest

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 03:14 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSYWR6jKjpA

The intro to this is straight out of a Final Fantasy boss.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 04:58 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u393a9VJo2Y

Mariah Carey cover

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 05:10 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTOfH3Sjb9U

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 05:10 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73e-gV50SKk

The piano necktie on a miniature red piano is amazing. So 80s.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 05:18 (nine years ago)

eleven months pass...

RIP

Yumi Ito
1941 - 2016

Death of Yumi Ito of twin pop duo The Peanuts confirmed

meisenfek, Monday, 11 July 2016 13:53 (eight years ago)

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX0rrArs46A

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 05:56 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR7GAvKBIO4

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 06:04 (eight years ago)

man I could tell in the first 5 seconds that was Hosono

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:19 (eight years ago)

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Arg36CZvHA

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:41 (eight years ago)

Not 80s but Nihonjin:
https://open.spotify.com/track/4mrih3yZgEBes83YSy3WXM

calstars, Saturday, 22 April 2017 00:29 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KKCt_Ur2ik

i've been listening to Salon Music's "My Girl Friday" (1983). i absolutely love the opener song "Muscle Daughter". kind of reminds me of The Vaselines.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:48 (eight years ago)

was surprised when they apparently got robert fripp in to do the guitar solo

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:53 (eight years ago)

yeah that solo rules

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:56 (eight years ago)

also that must be an early mix (i think for a vinyl release) on the album, she sings first. can't get enough of this song lol. every time i hear it sounds more and more like an alien version of Roxy Music.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:36 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLi5M7iQhE

i downloaded this from youtube a few years ago, it's not online anymore so i re-uploaded it. wish i had the full thing but it's not easy to find this stuff.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 14 May 2017 19:28 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

the video for "muscle daughter" by salon music has been taken down and i can't find much of their music available legally or illegally in the u.s. if anyone has any leads on how i can get that song specifically or their albums in general, i would appreciate the info. i asked my one friend who has lived in japan for years and is into indie/punk/shoegaze music and she had never even heard of them.

na (NA), Saturday, 17 June 2017 21:33 (seven years ago)

i ended up buying two Salon Music LPs off ebay, "My Girl Friday" (which opens w "Muscle Daughter") and "La Paloma Show". both really cool records. "Muscle Daughter" feels like the intersection of Roxy Music and Beat Happening. they have a kind of amateur DIY sound at times but clearly have a lot of good influences (they cover "See Emily Play" and a lot of songs seem to ape Brian Eno's pop albums (Frippertronic guitars throughout)). "Din of Love" is cool, it has a Bollywood style to it. "Hunting on Paris" was a guitar-and-organ indie hit single and is a really cool New Wave pop song. they did a remake of it for a wonderful Trattoria compilation called "Bend It! Japan '98". the "La Paloma Show" album has a more synth pop feel to it, "Voyager of the Beagle" is a trippy early stab at exotica revival, "Paradise Lost" is pretty cool cold war synthpop ("Too much doubt/in America/Too little trust/in Russia"). overall i really love these two albums and recommend picking them up on vinyl. they can be had for under $25 w shipping.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 June 2017 22:04 (seven years ago)

XP - sent you a mail NA

MaresNest, Saturday, 17 June 2017 23:02 (seven years ago)

What? Give the drummer some

calstars, Saturday, 17 June 2017 23:12 (seven years ago)

https://we.tl/IMAu8QFWSU

MaresNest, Sunday, 18 June 2017 14:09 (seven years ago)

thanks dudes

na (NA), Sunday, 18 June 2017 17:13 (seven years ago)

ty listening to "Chew It In A Bite" right now "Paper Doll" this is some solid 90s alternative rock right here w Japanese punk flavor. love it.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 June 2017 03:21 (seven years ago)

"Paper Dog" rather

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 June 2017 03:21 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLZ8ddRbQ5o

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 June 2017 03:23 (seven years ago)

Salon Music good at shoegaze

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 June 2017 03:24 (seven years ago)

Nice one

calstars, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:19 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhetXL7KmZA

this is some really sick 80s dance pop. that snare is pure cocaine.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:22 (seven years ago)

yes! all late 80s toshiki is fucking awesome ("sea is a lady" is my favorite)

clouds, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 00:32 (seven years ago)

oh this one, yeah, i have this comp called "made in the eighties" that has this and some other great stuff, dee-dee-phone by the ab's, dress down by kaoru akimoto, free way 5 to south by fujimal yoshino...

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:22 (seven years ago)

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVYqqrw6eQU

been listening to this cos of the amazing album cover. also the Hosono production!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:40 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZac0bNJqw

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:58 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brec06BA6JU

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:53 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT5BlCZsiCQ
nonstop doopees for me the past 3 weeks. I've become a treble head for Caroline's vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlhukAkkSN8

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:57 (seven years ago)

untootooku gets posted in these threads like once a year (not complaining, it's amazing)

clouds, Thursday, 12 October 2017 15:58 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUQjdwRno5g

cheeseburger, Thursday, 12 October 2017 16:12 (seven years ago)

why is none of this music on spotify?

niels, Sunday, 15 October 2017 08:12 (seven years ago)

spotify hasn't been in japan very long and is missing many label deals there. digital music also just never quite caught on in japan in the way it did elsewhere etc

ufo, Sunday, 15 October 2017 08:26 (seven years ago)

ah yeah, I seem to recall Tower records thriving in Japan...

niels, Sunday, 15 October 2017 08:30 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

This guy runs a little engine with 30 something hours of City Pop and leaves it streaming on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOIZMzsiZw

MaresNest, Sunday, 10 December 2017 16:18 (seven years ago)

five years pass...

Poison Girl Friend - Fact 2 (from Melting Moment)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZ7O7GWuN0

omar little, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 21:21 (two years ago)

oh word, i listened to that EP for the first time last week and have had the same track in heavy rotation since. love it.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:34 (two years ago)

original love, tomoyo harada, olivia, clammbon

CerebralCaustic, Friday, 20 January 2023 13:39 (two years ago)


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