Bun B of UGK - the best rapper in the south? ever?

Lil Wayne had one of the most modest cribs I'd ever seen on TV. His "kickin' it" room looked like a dorm--Bob Marley poster, pot-leaf bookends and a blacklight.

Scarface and Andre 3000 are better. Big Boi is, at least, as good.

Big Boi > Andre 3000 maybe but..
Andre Benjamin > Big Boi

Flawless, robotic superrapper can't compare with L Weezy fearlessly warping cadence and pitch and whatever into his own insane idea of what rap should be. The perfectly timed stutter on the opening line of "Get Off Tha Corner" does it for me every time--"The block. Is hot. The cops. Are swarming..." etc.

now, when i turn my knock up and bangin your block up
without pickin my glock up, i'm raisin my stock up
i got haters on lockup where they slangin rock up
and bangin makaveli seven, crankin my pac up
now ain't no stoppin when the tops start droppin
hearin fat pat rappin, your hat back cappin
in a black lac mackin, with a bop in a fade
boy we fat stack packin steady choppin on blades

say nigga i keeps my rims clean, shinin thru a dim scene
got your bitch pussy wetter than the captain of the swim team
steppin out the caddy, bitch, i'm fresher than dentyne
slicker than crisco, sweeter than nabisco
from philly to frisco, whether dom p or cisco
you better get some blades if you still ridin this, hoe
boys puttin swangas on benzes, it gotta stop
if you fitna ride foreign, then nigga you gotta chop
and southern niggas still got the nerve to ride ds
i ain't hatin on daytons, but it's 2000 nigga please
it's all about the candy paint, all about the vogues
man it's all about the slab, baby, all about the hoes
got some cons and some pros, some real and some fraud
hated on by a nigga, hated on by a broad
so long as yay sell and these boppin hoes slut
i be ridin chrome and blades, steady choppin hoes up

http://img52.exs.cx/img52/9986/candybmw-pbb00.gif

with his kids at his birthday party last month....

Ah...so THAT'S what all those ads talking about "make money at home on the Internet" are for!

Do you have any openings?

P.S. What IS Hollertronix?

Who's the rapper who raps first on that song?

"And when we hungry, U look like pie
Sweet potato-ass nigga
U lemon Meringue--Apple custard
Cherry jelly--Don't make me get tha biscuit busta (YEA)"

love it.

kinda biased cuz this show is part of the mag that i work for, but for any Bun B fans, this is a pretty great interview, methinks...

http://www.xlr8r.com/tv/54

the two reggae-ish tracks on II trill are really awesome

P.S. What IS Hollertronix?

-- M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, April 7, 2005 4:49 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

:D

Which ones are those? If It Was Up II Me and...?

Regardless, the whole thing is easily one of the strongest rap albums I've heard so far this year.

Also really feeling "Swang on 'Em"

i hear some reggae in "underground thang"

the way the horns are chopped

ALL the guests go in on this

eh maybe 'underground thang' is more blaxi but a little bit of reggae was my first inclination

I'll give it another listen. You very well could be right.

"Underground Thang" samples Steel Pulse's "Stepping Out," so there's your reggae.

I love the ghostly looped Janis Joplin banshee wail on "Getcha Issue." Making it on a UGK record has to have her dancing in her grave.

i like the bounce track!

keep it 100

the two reggae-ish tracks on II trill are really awesome

I thought you mean the one with jazze pha's fake ass patois

"we run tings round heeeere"

Who's the rapper who raps first on that song?

Mr. 3-2 ------- he's badass. He's also on Stoned Junkee, Pussy Got me Dizzy, does the chorus of Touched, lots of S.U.C. records ----

Lethal Dizzle

"'lac-drivin slab herders"

Now my candy, is sittin tall on them Vogues
It's like an alarm clock, wakin up all the hoes
My candy, is wetter than high tide
And it's lookin like I just had a blizzard inside
Of my candy, got mo' wood in it than a forest
One look'll get you hooked like a motherfuckin chorus
My candy, drips an unerasable stain
It's real magic, not like that motherfucker David Blaine
My candy, it got the woman on the front
And a Ph.D in showin niggaz how to stunt
My candy, it got the fifth up on the back
And it'll swang through your hood like it don't know how to act
My candy, the 8th wonder of the world
Like floatin downstream when you're starin at the swirls
My candy, ridin real trill, stayin true
And it's a legend in H-Town like DJ Screw

the new bun-premo is str8 garbage

i can't imagine rating bun over scarface

noz wrote abt it and bun b (and premo) now

Okay, I'm fine with the fact that I don't, and never will, understand the appeal of Drake. But it fucking depresses me when the intro to a goddamned Bun B record is all about him.

where can i hear this new bun b record?

what kind of name is Bun B? Turd C

My sarcasm meter is on the fritz today Whiney, is this a real question? Or did I miss where everyone is talking about it again?

yeah, i actually haven't read news of a leak and i would like to hear it!

what kind of name is Bun B? Turd C

Suggest B

Its out! Trill O.G. came out yesterday. Unfortunately it features Drake on two goddamned songs in addition to said intro.

bun b circa 2010 is possibly the worst rapper in the south. nearly brings tears to my eyes every time i have to drag my winamp meter past one of his guest verses

drake's presence isn't nearly as insulting as him putting trey songz on a joint with the disembodied voices of pimp c and 2pac

yeah he is consistently awful tbh

Yeah Jordan, that song sounds awful, I just shut it off in the car right before that track. I'm still willing to stan for him considering how great the last two UGK were.

it's not just that it's bad rap music; it's like, embarrassing rap music

Okay come one, I'll agree with him having been the far weaker link in UGK, but he's not that awful!

whiney, it's streaming here: http://www.spinner.com/new-releases#/4

I'll agree with him having been the far weaker link in UGK

anyway, wasn't bun generally considered the stronger rapper when pimp c was alive?

I guess that might be true, I just thought Pimp always pulled me in more with his charisma.

^^ this

yeah i totally agree, plus his singing and beats, but bun b comes off as being more technically skilled

no disrespect to the man but

Bun B > Pimp C

hold on

bun was obv absolutely classic in UGK -- he's just that bad at the moment! but he's also like 50 years old. what can you do?

i used to agree with whiney, but recently i've changed my mind

you'll be missed, fuckface

On the first couple of listens, I'm a bit disappointed in Trill O.G. as a whole—and the way the intro somehow positions Drake as Bun B's creation is just bizarre—but the album does have a lot of strong tracks on it. I think my expectations might have been too high coming off of II Trill... that last album was lively as hell; really underrated.

awww come on new bun b isn't that bad. he could really do with taking a year or so off

i haven't listened to this properly yet. i actually kinda dig 'right now' for a song featuring two dead dudes

this got 5 mics in the source lol

Wasn't that decided by like reader poll though?

I saw something on Twitter about people voting for this, Eminem, Roots, and a couple others for which would get the 5 mics.

Bun B has definitely been in a very lame predictable rut for a while now, and I have zero interest in hearing the new album, but it's kind of ridiculous how much people are exaggerating how bad he is. I mean aside from the occasional stumble he's always pretty competent, boring sure but not outright bad.

ANYTIME some kind of rap thing is left up to people on the internet to vote for, Eminem always wins, so i'm skeptical about that.

Bun B has definitely been in a very lame predictable rut for a while now, and I have zero interest in hearing the new album, but it's kind of ridiculous how much people are exaggerating how bad he is. I mean aside from the occasional stumble he's always pretty competent, boring sure but not outright bad.

― The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 Suggest Ban Permalink
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otm. he's fallen off obv, but samosa & j0rdan protest too much

Oh, this is what I saw. Apparently they gave it to Bun, but we're asking which of Drake, Eminem, Big Boi, Roots, Bun B, Rick Ross, or Fat Joe deserved it.

And you are right, by a HUGE margin Eminem is leading in the poll with 50% of the votes.

Eminem: 50%
Roots: 22%
Big Boi: 12%
Rick Ross: 7%
Drake: 4%
Bun B: 4%
Fat Joe: 1%

would have been so hilarious if the source had to give eminem 5 mics

i dont get what the problem is w trey songz on here

i think theres a good point to the OUTRAGE at wack bun verses ... what was so great about his stuff was always the lyrics. rhyming "got the big d all up in my draws / when i pull out my piece all the bitches pause" "its a grown folks party we dont need no kids / i try to blow you up girl yo pussy the sheeet" ughghgh

just stupid blah blah blah blah PAINT blah blah blah blah SAINT rhyme schemes. really nothing interesting about it at all. some rappers can get away w/ lazier lyrics & get by on charm. bun isnt one of them

god this record is weak so far

i never heard anyone say pimp c was the stronger rapper of the two until after he passed

yep

pimp was the stronger rapper in the last few years before he died but not before that

just stupid blah blah blah blah PAINT blah blah blah blah SAINT rhyme schemes. really nothing interesting about it at all. some rappers can get away w/ lazier lyrics & get by on charm. bun isnt one of them

― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 8:14 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm

ethan p was posting about how pimp c was underrated on gel & weave back in the day, compared him to how eazy e was the underrated one in NWA (another guy w/ a hi-pitched voice). bun was def considered the 'serious music fans' choice rapper or whatever. pimp was a crass personality. his death has a lot to do w/ how ppl have 180'd on pimp for sure.

I won't argue that, but you can't tell me that Pimp didn't outrap Bun on UGK4Life. Or even places on Underground Kingz.

pimp ran cirlces around bun on 4 life imo, agreed, tho the dates when the verses were recorded is pretty inevitably muddied - all of pimp's shit was, obviously, pre-death and a good amount of bun's must have been latter-day

i haven't read anything about this or anything so i'm talking outta my ass here

i mean bun wasn't a chump on that or anything

No, of course he wasn't, but I don't think when the verses were recorded matters. I don't care if Bun did indeed lay down all his verses after Pimp passed in order to finish the album -- what matters is what's on the disc, right?

no i'm just saying that it would at the very least fit the "bun b is dropping off" narrative (which is largely true imo) if you had an album in 'UGK 4 Life' made up of '07 pimp verses and '09 bun verses

I see what you're saying, but we might have seen an '09 Pimp that had widened the gulf between the two even further. Plus, we'll likely never know when Pimp recorded his contributions (maybe days before he died?) and how long after Bun did his, etc etc.

is there anything saying bun did his parts afterwards?

listening to the stream now. pretty middling but I like the jeezy track so far.

had a pretty strong urge to close out my tab during drake's introductory "UNNNH" tho.

he's also like 50 years old.

He's 37 you cheeky whippersnapper

NOW he's almost 50

When we first started putting out music, I say there might have been 50 rappers in all of Houston at the time. But when we first went to New York in ’92 to sign with Jive, the first three white people we met in New York were rappers. Like the bellman: “So what are you guys doing here? You rap? Oh man, I’m a rapper!” Pizza guy: “You’re here to sign a record deal? Put me on, I’m a rapper.” The driver the next day: “You guys rap, I guess? You’re going to the Jive building. I do a little something-something.” And all of these guys white! The weed guy was like, “You guys are rappers? I rap too.” And he was white as well.

from https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/18/arts/music/hiphop50.html#bun-b
lots of good stuff there, is the feature discussed somewhere? and... can't you print "shit" and "fuck" in an American newspaper?

great Biggie anecdote

We met Biggie in ’94. We’re on promo with Jive Records, and this is literally within three to five days of Craig Mack’s “Flava in Ya Ear” going gold. So we’re there, Craig’s there, Big’s there, and everybody’s really fawning over Craig Mack. But obviously we wanted to meet Biggie.

We go over and we introduce ourselves and he’s like, “I know who y’all are. Y’all are on the ‘Menace’ soundtrack. Y’all got the ‘Pockets’ joint — I was out there with Eiht, I told him y’all got the best record on the soundtrack.”

We were very flattered and taken aback at that. And keep in mind, this is when we’re in possession of the bootleg from Biggie, but I’m trying not to allude to that. I don’t know how he might receive it.

We had weed, we offered to smoke with him. So we go out to the car to smoke and I offer him the front seat and he’s like, nah, I’m gonna sit in the back if that’s OK. And he never closes the door on the car. I’m trying to hotbox, right? I’m trying to get the doors closed, get the windows up, but he’s not going for it. And come to find out, ’cause he didn’t really know us like that, he didn’t want to sit in the front seat ’cause he didn’t want dudes he didn’t know behind him. And he needed the door open because he would need a little bit of a head start if he needed to make a quick getaway.