Rolling Psych/Drone/Freak 2005 Thread

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Because I said. And hey, it works with everything else, so why not? Crossovers into stuff like the Metal thread appreciated, or anything else really.

Inspired by the release and enjoyment by me of the rather delayed but finally about out Mason Jones-curated Hall of Mirrors two CD compilation on Emperor Jones, which you can find a full tracklist/description of here (I'll be writing the review of it). All I have to say right now is: holy shit, where have some of these bands been all my life? The Gravitar track is fucking insane, and now I've found out they broke up, dammit!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Is Escapade's "4:33" the "4:33"?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

The credits would imply otherwise.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

It's being seeded at indie torrents.

― Léèê (Leee), Saturday, 9 April 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

I'd say that the Kinski is my favorite, I think, and that includes the exclusive Bardo cut.

― Léèê (Leee), Saturday, 9 April 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

I was about to say, this is new.

MANY good tracks on the whole thing, and the Kinski is a killer. But I'd also give love to Circle, Overhang Party, Vocokesh, Numinous, AMT, Primordial and Rubble in particular.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 April 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

aaah this looks delicious, ysi anyone?

― rizzx (rizzx), Saturday, 9 April 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

wow, i havent heard most of that...i missed DMBQ last week, but have heard nothing but raves.

― b b, Monday, 11 April 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Up-Tight's "five psychedelic pieces" album is very enjoyable if more than a little rough-round-the-edges

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

The Gravitar track is fucking insane, and now I've found out they broke up, dammit!

they released a ton of stuff, though. go back, ned raggett! get copies of "now the road of knives" and "you must first learn to draw the real!"

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

they released a ton of stuff, though. go back, ned raggett

Yeah, no worries, I checked out the webpages -- happily good contact info is listed for all the bands in the CD booklet. Which is why you should all get it instead of downloading it like punks. Oh wait I download never mind.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

cant find it on slsk though

― rizzx (rizzx), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

I love Up-Tight. Really chewy. This comp looks interesting.

DMBQ just released a record on I think Estrus? Does this strike anyone as odd? I haven't heard the record so I don't know. The EP I heard was kinda meh but they supposedly rule the kingdom live.

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

the new boris is pretty ridiculous. (check out the cover art)

mp3 here http://stonerrock.com/store/info.asp?item_num=ATH-2761

― toothy philanthropist, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Tokyo Flashback 5 is out, too, and it is SICK. Lots of cool weird stuff on there running the gamut from super sludgy to soft 'n dreamy. Track list:

1. Aural Fit / Behind 20, Beyond 20K
2. White Heaven / Mandrax Town (Live Version)
3. Kyoaku no Intention / Kyoaku blues II
4. Kabemimi / Midori no hitomi
5. Suisho no fune / Kuroi kage
6. Keiji Haino / Chushin yori wazuka 2cm no tokoro ni uchimachigawareta ³.²
7. Hisato Higuchi / cluster of lights
8. Tsurunoko / Mitai
9. Overhang Party / Prayer of a fool
10. Marble Sheep / FLA FLA HEAVEN

Other stuff:
Pharoah Overlord #3
Birchville Cat Motel Chi Vampires

That's all I can think of right now.

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

So far exercycle nitemaring with Chilean electropunks Panico's Subliminal Kill. Anybody heard Thai Beat A-Go-Go Vol. 2 yet?

― don, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

Aight, so who knows anything about Portland mystery group Visitations? I got in quick on Time-Lag's 78 rpm two weeks ago and it is this great hippie, campfire, femme vocal psychedelic shit that knocked my socks off (and has me looking for a better 78 player than the crappy travelling suitcase looking one I have now). I see Fakejazz reviewed their CDR last year and Time Lag mentions about another forthcoming CDR, but I want to know MORE.

― jared, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

V/A - By The Fruits You Shall See The Roots - Eclipse/Time-Lag triple LP. Sides by: Matt Valentine & Erika Elder & Chris Corsano, Jack Rose, Dredd Foole, Joshua and Kemialliset Ystavat, Fursaxa and Six Organs of Admittance. Amazing packaging, mostly up to par jams. The Jack Rose side features a lengthy version of "Sun Dogs" which was broadcast in a short version on the Peel show--bowed(? e-bowed?) drone with lots of dissonant overtones produced. MV/EE/CC piece is unfocused. I like Corsano way more in the free jazz realm; when expecting typical MV/EE string melt, it feels cluttered and too unfocused. Six Organs side is good, Fursaxa side is tops, and the Joshua Side is good, even though it could have used more vocals. Dredd Foole side is two tracks, one long one short. Short one's good. Long one's uninteresting sound poetry type stuff (maybe you'll like it if yr into that.) Second track, much shorter, is Jandekian moan/strum. In the vein of recent Ecstatic Peace LP.

Huge foldout six panel poster with the artists listed in conventionally psychedelic script. Other side is big foldout of patches and liner notes on some fancy paper type jam. Pretty.

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

So far exercycle nitemaring with Chilean electropunks Panico's Subliminal Kill

Yeah, great stuff isn't it? :-)

Aight, so who knows anything about Portland mystery group Visitations?

Heheh. Weirdly enough, I just had some dude e-mail me about this very band since I had mentioned the first CDR last year on FT. Said dude was from Russia, which I thought was very cool. :-) I just refer people to Nemo at this point.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

WOLFIZE

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

Ned, what did you think of the Satwa reissue?

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I loved it -- what, didn't I say more on the Satwa thread? Weird. I wrote it up for a quick blog post at the OC Weekly site.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

great hippie, campfire, femme vocal psychedelic

Hello, tell mle more.

― Leeenge de Bruijn (Leee), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

The more I can tell you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

DMBQ played live on Joe Belock's show on WFMU today. Caught the tail end and it seemed quite good. Link to the mp3 archive:

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/14724

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

I found the Visitations CDR on Slsk and it is fucking fantastic! Like the best elements of Campfire Songs and Folkscene done even more lo-fi and intensely with the sci-fi madness of An Electric Storm sprinkled in there (probably took their name from track on that record).

― jared, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

you sharing it on slsk?

― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

sure, user disco texxx
folder is '2004 - unknown album'

― jared, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

A Long Losing Battle With Eloquence And Intimance: that's the title of the new Dredd Foole LP (might be on aluminum-coated paper too, if yall prefer). Yes, Eloquence and Intimance wins; the mere-er side of freakiness loses (in terms of mere vocal gnarliness, which Ian describes above, re By Their Fruits--well, the last track does have a few minutes of such, but after he's already given us the good words, so you don't gotta listen to the mere). Also a Losing Battle with Fate or somethin, but unrepentant as unforgiven sings the Foole! Check forcedexposure.com, and also they may still have copies of a zine from Smallflowers Press: epic "open fire biographs (mostly interviews, but not too rambly) of Dredd Foole, Sunburned Hand of the Man, and Chris Corsaro." Or check d'rectly: smallflowers@yahoo.com

― don, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

I got in quick on Time-Lag's 78 rpm two weeks ago

It's on a 78????

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

Yup. Lathe-cut and everything, I believe.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

WHERE ARE THE 16 RPM RECORDS WE WERE PROMISED?

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

You get nothing.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Yup. Lathe-cut and everything, I believe.

What?! Must find this! What's it called? What label is it on? Where can I get it??

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

*cough*

I got in quick on Time-Lag's 78 rpm two weeks ago

...as Ian posted. Time-Lag = label. Nemo = person who runs label. Nemo is your friend. Google can also be your friend. ;-)

http://www.time-lagrecords.com/

(Sorry to be flip; it's just that I think it was already made clear!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Well yeah I already checked there and I couldn't find "Visitations" under either Catalog or Distributed Items.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Just drop Nemo a line. He's the one on the other end of the e-mail address listed on the page.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

you missed out on the 78. it was an edition of 30 or something and it sold out in about an hour.

― a, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Ah well. I was going to order one myself but as I have nothing to play something at 78 it would be kinda pointless.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Residual Echoes anyone? Sounds like German Oak gone psych garage with lotsa noise freak outs.
I second the Birchville Cat Hotel "Chi Vampires."
Anyone digging that Islaja from Finland? I find it haunting, in a female"Jandek meets a fairy in the woods" sense.
Those two James Blackshaw CDs are off the hook too. You can pick them up on Volcanic Tongue.
Just got the Aural Fit "Livestock" album. If you like Les Rallizes Denudes, you'll love this.
I highly, highly recommend Mountains on Apestaartje. A little more on the organica side of things, but seriously, mindbendingly beautiful. Lots of field recordings mixed with processed acoustic guitar ruminations and pinging, beatific keys.

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Fuck YES Residual Echoes! Chi Vampires rules, too. Most everything talked about on this thread is stuff I am fully digging. Well, the stuff that I have had a chance to hear, anyway.
Got a chance to see Astral Blessing play, and they were great. So the was the Spiral Joy Band. Mike Gangloff plus two other guys bowing tamboura, rubbing prayer bowls, banging gongs...generally getting it on.
Mike's solo banjo set was a stark but wonderful contrast.

― Trip Maker (Sean Witzman), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

you missed out

get used to seeing this when shopping for time-lag stuff.

i love the first islaja cd, but i'd say lau nau's "kuutarha" might be even better. i'm real curious about residual echoes - the one comp track i've heard by them thus far was garbage. i'm hoping the cd's better.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

Urdog's site reports of new record!! Anyone heard?

― jared, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

Oh it's not out 'til the 19th
anyway the track on Secret Eye's website sounds good

― jared, Thursday, 14 April 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Trip - i just released that Astral Blessing show - www.geocities.com/berriesaswell. FYI

― He Who Doesn't Wish To Be Named, Thursday, 14 April 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

Saw Magik Markers play tonight with Corsano sitting in for Pete; totally killer.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 14 April 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the link, nameless one.

― Trip Maker (Sean Witzman), Thursday, 14 April 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Sanso Xtro's new Sentimental: tiny components, like girlmuscles--look out now!

― don, Friday, 15 April 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

actually a hypen (sanso-xtro)

― don, Friday, 15 April 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

I'm focusing on reviewing music in this realm on my blog, if anyone
is interested.
http://hippriest.blogspot.com

― Brooker B (Brooker B), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

fwiw, we -- esp Byron Coley & Thurston Moore in their lengthy Bull Tongue column, which appears in every ish -- cover all this increasingly wonderful stuff regularly in Arthur magazine, have done for the last two and half years... New ish out next week... blah blah.. Yes, Residiual Echoes is all that!
More infos at
http://www.arthurmag.com

― Jay Babcock (Jay Babcock), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Rah for Arthur! I have to apologize to you dudes, I really haven't kept up with that as regularly as I wished, and I even offered to write for y'all if you could stand it. But whenever I come across an issue I lurv it. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

agreed. Arthur rules, best mag since Muckraker, and not just because i get mentioned in there and they printed my letter once

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Principles Of Geometry: although almost-all instrumental, with (analog) keyboards instead of telegraph keys, and hip hop beats (sometimes) rather than funk, and sneakier (beard-curtained), bare more than passing resemblance to descendents of Silver Apples (not too far from the tree)

― don, Saturday, 16 April 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

the Arthur party at SXSW was just great. Saw a lot of good bands that afternoon and it really reconciled me with music.
I also met Adam from Residual Echoes: very curious to listen to his band!

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Just got back from Dead Meadow/Jennifer Gentle/Out Crowd show. Of the highly spiff. Dead Meadow played for two hours. Jennifer Gentle were massive crowd favorites and everyone was in a great mood. Yay to finally meeting them! Must sleep now. More later.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Ned, let me know EVERYTHING!

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

hey folks: Thanks for the kind words re Arthur. Sorry it's hard to find sometimes. New ish out next week with 5,500-word M.I.A. interview cover story plus tons of other shit. Hope you dig it.
hey Ned: Not sure if I ever received yr offer to write for the mag...?

― JayBabcock (jabbercocky), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

what's Arthur's URL, Jay? Possible to purchase single copies from there-?

― don, Monday, 18 April 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

Don- Yeah, the URL is
http://www.arthurmag.com
Yes, you can buy single copies there, subscriptions, CDs (including new studio album by Sunburned Hand of the Man), new t-shirts by Arik 'they call him Moonhawk' Roper, etc.
Nice to hear that people were having it at the Jennifer Gentle/Dead Meadow Spaceland show... there was that same sort of giddy mood during their sets at the SXSW show we did at the Church of the Friendly Ghost. Hard to explain, a joy to witness...

― JayBabcock (jabbercocky), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I need to write up something about that for Plan B as a brief live review, as well as telling Marco about it all some more!

Jay, it was a really quick exchange of mails back in late 2002 and my mind was dwelling on several different things at once, so I doubt I was even slightly coherent for much of them. If you're up for a pitch or two I'll drop you a line.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

late to the party, but the hall of mirrors comp is rad. glad that I finally got to hear Circle via it, love the drone + metal croak vocals! the Uptight track is ace as well, they're like the velvets gone baaaaad.

any other good new psych, drone or indeed freak to look out for?

― haitch (haitch), Sunday, 22 May 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

Black Boned Angel's "Supereclipse" rules it. It's Campbell Kneale (Birchville Cat Motel) flexing his metal drone in a huge way.
I'm really digging Burning Star Core's The Very Heart of the World and their collab with Comets on Fire. I like the BXC disc more than the collab one, though.
I'm still reeling from the Boredoms show on Saturday night in Chicago.
Seadrum/House of Sun should be the next thing on everyone's list that doesn't already own it.

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 23 May 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

speaking of birchville, i'm thirding chi vampires. the title track is like david maranha metal.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 23 May 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Has anybody mentioned acid king, drunk horse, esemerine, et sans, indian jewerly, parchman farm, pure reason revolution, or the works yet? do they even count? i dunno, but i like all of them, i think.

And yeah, Kinski is really good, too.

― xhuxk, Monday, 23 May 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Rah for Kinski! And hey Chuck, I was seriously about to pitch you a review of the Works! Did you want to reserve that one for yourself?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 May 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Nah, doubt I'd get around to it, Ned. As I just said in my email, feel free to send me something short on spec, if you want...thanks!

By the way, though, I am totally sure I prefer the Works (and most of the other bands I just mentioned) to Dungen, who I still don't think I really get -- definitely more than the album of Dungen's early recordings that just came out, which, it's about time somebody pointed out, is boooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrring!!

― xhuxk, Monday, 23 May 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I thought that reissue of the first Dungen album was a bit flat too, though it grew a bit on me with a relisten. But yeah, the Works album is a nice surprise, I just figured, "Oh right, a Dungen side project I guess," but I was really taken with it! Very immediate and enjoyable.

Now about those other bands you mention, aside from the quite great Acid King I've not heard of them. Recommendations/descriptions?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 May 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Heard good things about Parchman Farm. A friend of mine stumbled into one of their Bay Area shows and Dickie Peterson was up on stage with them.

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 23 May 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

saw parchman farm open for jennifer gentle/dead meadow in baltimore. they were pretty good in their channelling of blue cheer, but the lead singer was sort of biting constantine maroulis. good riffs, loud, but i think ill just listen to blue cheer...

― peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 23 May 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

i saw drunk horse in austin and they played really good, leather-clad 70's rock. friendly people too.

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Monday, 23 May 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

That Dungen reissue is spectacular. Gotta listen to it stoned though.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 23 May 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

IN YOUR SLIPPERS.

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 23 May 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm listening to the new Tom Carter/Marcia Bassett collaboration, and I'm really enjoying it. Quiet drones on what I think is two lapsteel guitars.

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

i'll take yr word Ian..ive been wondering about those...

― b b, Monday, 23 May 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

also, I don't really know if this fits with the vein of the thread, but Marissa Nadler's new album is gorgeous. Droney fingerpicked folk w. reverbed vox

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Esmerine's new album "Aurora" 2nded (I assume that's what you're speaking of, xhuxk. Not sure if it is that psych/drone/freakish, but it's really great regardless. The Et Sans album is definitely in this category though. I'm not sure when it was released, but the Buried Civilizations "tunnels to other chambers" CD-R on Jeweled Antler is very nice. All of the songs seem like incomplete 4-track sessions, but I like it that way.
And Ian, I recently heard/played on the radio Tom Carter's 'Monuments', which if you don't have you should seek out for sure. I'd really like to hear the collab with Marcia Bassett. Is that "Zaika"?

― superultramega (superultramarinated), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

I'll take one of everything from the Celebrate Psi Phenomenon label, please.

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

SupUltMeg: Yeah, that's Zaika I-IV. It's very very smooth and calming and thin. Really a nice change from the overpowering drone of Double Leopards.

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Not really 2005, but does anyone have opinions of the Million Tongues Festival CD? I found a subdued Makoto Kawabata+Kinski drone track, and it's really great.

― Leeeee (Leee), Monday, 30 May 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Hm! What label did it appear on?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 May 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Bastet. Dusted reviews it. And finally a YSI of the track.

― Leeeee (Leee), Monday, 30 May 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

eyes and arms of smoke - birthing timbers 3" cdr on chondritic is the best thing i've heard all week.

― brock (brock), Monday, 30 May 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

for those who are innerested: "Million Tongues" available from us at
http://www.arthurmag.com/store/bastet_cds.php

― JayBabcock (jabbercocky), Monday, 30 May 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

>Now about those other bands you mention, aside from the quite great Acid King I've not heard of them. Recommendations/descriptions? <

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0523,dozen,64668,22.html

― xhuxk, Friday, 3 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

A quick heads up that the mighty fine Visitations, whose self-released CDR last year was quite a treat, is about to release its first 'formal' effort via Time-Lag. Nemo just posted this about it:

VISITATIONS “VISITATIONS” cdr $12.00
first proper release from portland (Maine)’s finest cosmic wonders. after the ultra-limited, self released debut cdr and the even more limited time-lag hand-cut 78, here’s a dose for the masses. featuring 4 extended tracks culled from live recording of the bands very earliest live performances, and presenting the group at their most blissed-out, eyes to the cosmos glory. if you dig chills down yr spine, look no further, cuz this stuff seeps spirit, love and melancholy like few others out there, past or present. damaged, beautiful & ecstatic male & female vocals, acoustic & electric guitars, swirling
waves of lo-fi drone, plus flutes, saw, and various other noisemarkers. largely improvised, constantly flowing, and extremely psychedelic stuff, laced with plenty of ritual, mystery & acid... packaged in a tri-fold art paper cover, each title uniquely hand embossed by the band, plus primitively screenprinted polybags in multiple colors, fold-out poster insert, stamped black bottom cdrs, and absolutely no information. numbered edition of 140 copies.

Get 'em while they're hot. Also they're carrying the vinyl of the Charalambides Our Bed is Green reissue.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

This "the Tone of the Universe (=the Tone of the Earth)" compilation has some really great drone tracks on it. I'm in love with the Birchville Cat Motel piece.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm intrigued already!

Also, I have the latest Visitations stuff from Time-Lag and it might be time to start a separate thread for them if they don't have it already...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Who has seen the Skaters/Double Leopards tour? Anyone? Anyone?

They played brooklyn a few days ago, but I had to work. They're playing manhattan on the 8th and chances are I am gonna go. Double Leopards are hit and miss (that being the nature of improvisation), but mostly hit. Skaters I saw live once and they blew my mind. Recordings spottier. (Dark Rye Bread remains classic, and I like also Palm Shaper.)

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I hear DL and Skaters are playing together at that date, which could be cool. Didn't Skaters have a hand in the Hototogisu Green album? They seem to be mentioned a lot lately. I have only heard the Ohpa's Shadow rec, which is good, I guess.

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I had never heard of Skaters pre-summe 2004, but they were one of the best at pasture fest.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Skaters, eh? Like the name a lot for some reason.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

they're also on that Tone comp.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it's a GREAT name; I think we can all agree on that.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

I read in the Wire that the name comes from a John Ashbury poem about ice skating.

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Ian, I caught the Philly date. Sound was way muddy even for the bands in question. They're playing the 8th at Tonic right? I'd assume the sound should be much better in that case. I'd never seen either band live before and didn't really know what to expect, but both lived up to expectations. Line 6 delay modelers all over the damn place. Fun, stoned time.

― - (smile), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Jesus. That post makes no sense. I think I meant that I liked it but didn't know what to expect.

― - (smile), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

there's video evidence of the tour on the ecstatic peace page.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

i have a post lined up for circusoffools.blogspot.com

includes The (great) Skaters + Birchville Cat Motel and Six Organs of Admittance

later 2nite yo

― rizzx (Rizz), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

yeah it's up for those who are interested

http://circusoffools.blogspot.com/

― rizzx (rizzx), Thursday, 4 August 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

what are some reliable places online to buy this sort of stuff...

anyone order from http://www.apexonline.com/melodybar/intro~1.htm ?

places in the u.s. are prefered

thanks!

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

http://www.eclipse-records.com

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

eclipse records totally OTM.

also fusetron & forced exposure.

― Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

t0dd, also try aquariusrecords.org

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

www.midheaven.com

― superultramega (superultramarinated), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

double leopards are playing tonight in DC at this show space on florida ave - they were great at that "noise v facism" thing at the black cat. not sure if im gonna make it out, aince im already starting to nod off, but if youre in the area and havent seen em, theyre worth seeing. heres the announcement - apparently, this is part of that DL/skaters tour.

shoot, now im torn.

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Excepter - Self Destruction

listening to promo now - this is their self-described "house" record. It has beats sometimes, but it also lots of queasy moan-vox.

― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Reminds me of the Jackofficers (at least by description).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

peter smith: skaters were really good live last summer. go to the show! i've seen double leopards tons of times and still try to see them when they play--they're excellent most of the time.

not related: i got a pauline oliveros album today. it rules. "accordion & voice." What to get next?

― Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

"crone music" is really good.

― dan (dan), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

xpost: side 2 of that LP is like the perfect breakfast music

― Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

( xxpost forcedexposure.com is good amerikanski soundsource too) If you like Pauline, try Meredith Monk.

― don, Friday, 5 August 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

hey excepter didn't say SELFD is a house record. and lets recall that the ad copy from which that statement comes included an "if xenakis made one" punchline. not that it was really funny or anything, but just for the record.

― noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

favorite three oliveros:
Electronic Music
Non Stop Flight (for the last 50 minute track)
& Roots of the Moment for fuckin' real
and that 30 minute 'Little Noise In The System' track on that sub rosa compilation -- jesus that is just brutal and relentless

I think there's a thread where I said too much as per usual

saw the Skaters last month at Lobot Gallery, liked them very much. am glad they are now local.

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Pauline's brain beats Alvin's brain

― Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

it's true, her side is much more feisty

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

If is that Alvin Lucier? I really like his "Sferics," on Toop's luvly Strange Weather, which I reviewed for Voice.Re Pauline, post mentioned her voice and accordian, that's what made me think of Meredith (but Pauline's work is more varied). More mercurial vocaltronica: Pamela Z's A Delay Is Better (and special guests on her "Geekspeak," where dusty denizens expound on kluges on hacks onward and upward)

― don, Friday, 5 August 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

lets get back on the drone horse and talk about popol vuh! i know there was some talk on the delia/gavin thread about PV, but i want more! also, anything else relevant to psy/dr/frq!

― petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 19 September 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I recently got my Rh Band lp on HP Cycle back out (its name is a date; the date it was recorded, I guess) and it's warm tones bathed me in good vibes. Got a skaters cdr mix from a dude on the WWVV tape trading list and it is mind-warping. Love their song titles.
Gonna take some allergy medicine now.

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 19 September 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

But it's about 2005 psych etc. So have Popul Vuh put out a new album? ;-)

There are a couple of great reissues I've heard lately, though, and I've got some goodness on order...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 September 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I quite like both the RH Band LPs I have. Think they deserve a bit more attention than they currently get (basically none).

As to Popol Vuh, if it's the droning electronics you like then get Affenstunde or In Den Garten des Pharaohs. Post those albums, they dropped the eclectronics and became a bit more of a conventional droney-rock outfit. A wonderful one, but certainly less experimental and more song-orientated. My favorites of that period are in no particular order: Herz aus Glas, Letzte Tage letzte Nacht, and Einsjäger und Siebenjäger. Dadaismus in this thread really covers it all better than I ever could:
s/d popol vuh

― Joel (aquabahn), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone digging the new Fursaxa? It's her most immediate effort, that's for sure.

Wasn't real keen on the August Born after two listens. But then again, the "L" record never did a whole lot for me, either. Seems like a bit of a regression after Chasny's "School of The Flower", spontaneous collaboration or not.

Excited to hear there's a new Residual Echoes LP on the way. It was on the Yod list today.

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

"Excepter - Self Destruction
listening to promo now - this is their self-described "house" record. It has beats sometimes, but it also lots of queasy moan-vox.

-- Dominique, August 5th, 2005

*sigh*
well i tried.
i do think leone can write. i do wish that this conceit had been deaded a bit though. for instance, maybe Adult Contemporary or something?
i think that if one can make the stretch to comparing 'bad vibration' to an arthur russell-ish palette, then the House thing would be a bit more understood.
but (and now i'm prattling) there is also so much Old American Music in there. and like a tom waits vibe too. in fact i recently heard a dis involving the proclamation that tom waits' last record was more hip hop than whatever that one indie hip hop guy who supposedly sounds like tom waits's was. thats what i'm talking about. . .if we can go ahead and stretch all these things together now while i'm at it.
but oh well.
also BB & B needs to be heard (properly) on vinyl. and that one's more Hip-House anyway really ;)

― noizem duke (noize duke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

Invisible Pyramid - Elegy Box just released! BF/BS, thee mighty Bardo, and Fursaxa! 7.5 hours of psyche in tribute to extinct animals. Anyone cool/ballsy enough to have heard this yet?

― Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I want to hear more modern music on 78!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Goldang, Leeeee. But where the hell is the order info for it? The original Invisible Pyramid comp is a treat.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Meanwhile, here's the album I was going to mention a bit ago -- Lula Cortes and Ze Ramalho's Paebiru:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg900/g986/g98676swzqs.jpg

My AMG review of same, it's quite excellent. Meantime I've gotten some new goodies from Foxy Digitalis, the best being the first in a new comp series called Wailing Bones -- the Tom Carter and Drona Parva tracks were my faves but I like the Alligator Crystal Moth well enough. No question that the real winner is the upcoming Gold Leaf Branches 3 disc comp...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

DMBQ (referenced earlier) playing at the FMU record fair in November.

― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

Bravo, Neddissimo. Lula rula. And the last tyme I checked (at t-lag syte and with forcedex, just in case) Satwa was still in print! Unlike most time-lag of course and alas.

― don, Monday, 26 September 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

guitar notes 1) bandleg of gig in York PA, "Go Play Outside," possibly in re thatOne Girl Who Won't Shut The Fuck Up Even Or Especially When Buddy Bolden Comes Back To Jam With Jimi (boy she's got a full 'leg schedule, all over the barworld) indicates that Notekillers are grooving closer and closer to secret ideal of John Fahey's New YardBirds 2005 A.D., at least tracks 5-10 are. Back into studio soon.2) Alex Chilton playing (some)very sick rolling psychdronefreak gtr. on prev. known Big Star Live, good halves of Nobody Can Dance and Columbia; tortures chamber piece on new studio Big Star In Space; and now unearth Live In Tuscaloosa 86, where even does same to Yardbirds Torture Garden (but also 60s-garage-psych-rock-club plausible)mix of "Look Of Love.""My Life Is White" noise and more(andmoreagaine).

― dmxza@yahoo.com, Monday, 26 September 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

First thing on this site, Ned: http://www.lastvisibledog.com/catalog.htm

― Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 26 September 2005 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

what are some reliable places online to buy this sort of stuff...

Volcanic Tongue

Barl Fire

― Venus Glow (1411), Monday, 26 September 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

So is that Gris Gris album as boring as it sounds, or am I missing something? (Not even sure they belong here; just though I'd ask.)

― xhuxk, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

Ya'll can bet I'll be picking up one of those Elegy Boxes on LVD when I'm in Providence this coming weekend.

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

damn..i got to get through this moving thing so i can spend money...those elegy boxes sound like the sort of thing i need.

― bb (bbrz), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

nyeh elegy bones nyeh nyice nyame. Do they do "I Met Her In Church,"nyehhheh!

― Red Lorre Yellow Lorre, Monday, 26 September 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Listening to Burning Star Core's new one now. Second track is just dumb. The rest is...okay, I guess. But is there supposed to be something distinctive about these guys? If so, I'm not hearing it. Seems like just another pleasant noisy freaky drone CD to me, ho hum

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hm, never heard of them. What label?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

Thin Wrist. Somebody mentions the album upthread; apparently there's some connection with Comets on Fire. They seem to mix in plenty of electronics and keyboards (also a clarinet or two); parts of it kinda remind me of ye olde skool early '80s industrial noise. but some reason it's not hitting me like, say, that new angel of decay album eventually did. basically, i'm bored by it. but maybe that's just me.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

They did a split album/ep thing with Comets On Fire.
I quite like them.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently the new album is pretty out there. Spencer Yeh (who I think is the main man, really) also does some pretty inspired vocals too. Two microphones, flapping lips and a lot o' spit.

― davidcorp ltd (davidcorp), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

hella, *homeboy*: is it my imagination, or has this band gotten more boring with every subsequent release they've put out? nope, not my imagination, i don't think. either way, this one appear to be a real snoozer.

― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Anybody heard the new Davenport on Time Lag? I think it's great. But I am new to this drone stuff, so what do I know?

― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Davenport put on a great set in St Louis on the first of a two night psych blowout with the Finnish family. It wasn't like any of the records of their's that I own, which range from tape recordings of farm jamming (Family Field Tales) to psych noise (Starry Connections) to country folk (Free Country). The set I witnessed was loud improv rock, more drone than anything else I've heard em do.
Lau Nau played Don Cherry's theme from Holy Mountain (which knocked me out) and Islaja were FAR more psychedelic and rocking than on the Fonal cd, Meritie, that I picked up. It's a good album, but it doesn't have any of the electric guitar and bass duo male/female vocal stuff like they were doing at the show.
A friend of mine that just moved to NYC caught the Finns at their Anthology Film Archives show, where they all collectively jammed along with a film collage. Really wish I could have seen that!

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Feathers LP out now. Order through Fusetron. Also out: Shackamaxon LP. These are things I'm gonna pick up this weekend after work. Excited, excited.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Not feelin new Black Halos or Major Stars. But Bardo Pond, Psychic Paramount, o hell yes. (xxhuxx thanxx 4 peepee, who r they) Fursaxa's good too, but sometimes her voice gets too in front of more interesting music. (That's the main way the much-hyped "Nico" comparison rings true, but I like 'em both, for the most part.)

― don, Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Anybody heard the new Davenport on Time Lag?

Just got it in the mail, have yet to listen!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

>Apparently the new album is pretty out there. <

Eh. It (the Burning Star Core CD) is mostly pleasant, just like a lot of this stuff, but I don't get what's supposed to be so "out there" about it. Just 'cause they use some noisy electronics? I dunno. (The second track just seems like an unfunny sound-effect-collage goof; it's annoying, and in a kitsch way more than any kinda avant way.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Psychic Paramount with Circle+Mouthus+others at CMJ, and they were the weakest link in the set (aside from c4rl0s g1ff0n1's dj skillz)

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

and also, the best Burning Star Core stuff I've heard is on a tape from a few years ago on Chondritic Sound--"Tell Me Something." Two tracks of long electronic/organic drones. None of the crappy vocal gibbering or rock band immitation.

That said, I would like to hear the Comets on Fire collab.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Feathers LP ,Psychic Paramount, Major Stars ive all bought and I love all of them. I need to get the Comets On Fire/Major Stars lp(the mp3s i have are fantastic) and the Burning Star Core split as well.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

The Paramount CD (studio, I think, but no booklet to say so) is uneven, but darn good overall. This stuff is hard to get just right, all of the time (notice I restrained myself from saying "thee tyme," for once.) But that adds to the suspense: will they just turn into yetmoreagain glibbledeegabble Cometsbiters, or not!?

― don, Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

my roommate josh recorded the last psychic paramount album. he said that when he finally heard it finished he was dissapointed at how fuzzed out they made it.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I just got word this morning of the 2 Million Tongues Festival happening November 4-6 in Chicago at the Empty Bottle. Thursday night features Tony Conrad, among others. Gary Higgins, Hototogisu, Miminokoto, Jackie O Motherfucker, Whitehouse, Josephine Foster, and others all scheduled to perform. I deleted the night by night breakdown, though, like a dumbass.
Think I'll make the trip for Conrad.

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

I meant Nov 3-6. Starts on Thursday and ends on Sunday.

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I love the Major Stars 'Black Road' 7"! And I know I've mentioned Elevator 'August' somewhere on ILM before, but it's great too, especially 'Hick Wall'. On the drone side of things, I picked up Zaika I-IV (thanks Ian) and Zaimph 'Moon's Pool' at a Christina Carter/Marcia Bassett/Fursaxa show. Both great. Zaika is already mentioned upthread, and i quite like it, though one piece (I or III - the sides are not evidently marked) did not seem to gel as well as the rest. Zaimph is M. Bassett electric guitar drone, with a wonderful haunting piano making an appearance on the last piece.

Lastly, if a recording of Mouthus live at the EarThunder festival ever surfaces, grab it quick. I know they were taping everything that weekend, and Mouthus' set in the trees at dusk was incredible.

― superultramega (superultramarinated), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I heard the record "Field Recordings on the Sun" by Comets on Fire last nite at a friends house. I was kinda drunk, but it was sweet.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 29 September 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking about placing a decently big order from Important Records right now. It looks like they have some great shit.

Vibracathedral Orchestra - Tuning To The Rooster
The Acid Mothers Temple & The Cosmic Inferno - Just Another Band from the Cosmic Inferno
The Birds - Birds Birds Birds In the World
Merzbow - Merzbuddha
Kawabata Makato - O Si Amos A Sighire A Essere Duas Umbras?

Any advice here? Any albums I should leave out or replace with others? I'm thinking about dropping the Vibra Orc because well, I need money, and that cover art is simply hideous. This label seems awesome.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 30 September 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know the Birds, the rest are good to great (I'm not a Merzbow fetishist myself). That said, I've not heard these releases in particular by them. I'd almost suggest going to Eclipse Records and seeing what they have in stock too.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 September 2005 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

Other than buying them second hand, I'd imagine I couldn't find them cheaper than the label. Is that a bad assumption to make?

― Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 30 September 2005 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

don't forget to come to the next rilly big shows on martha's vineyard. i will be wearing my ankle-bells.

SIX ORGANS OF ADMITTANCE + HUSH ARBOURS + COYOTE

SATURDAY OCTOBER 8TH
AT ABOVEGROUND RECORDS
EDGARTOWN, MA
7PM / ALL AGES / $5 DONATION

www.sixorgansofadmittance.com
www.dragcity.com

* * *

AWOL FEST!

SATURDAY OCTOBER 22ND
AT THE KATHERINE CORNELL THEATER
VINEYARD HAVEN, MA

5PM / ALL AGES / PRICE TBA

FEAT PERFORMANCES BY:
DREDD FOOLE, COYOTE, SEAN SMITH, FURSAXA, GLENN JONES, JOSHUA, MATTHEW
DEGENARRO + MORE TBA

* * *

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 30 September 2005 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

Holy Moly. Skot, xxuxx bought my Acyde Ffolke roundup, a handful of it, anyway; some of your visitors were in there, but not sure which will be sacrificed to propitiate Count Word, so won't yet call ye Roll. Yet ultimattely, all will be together againe in Paradise (on the Blogspot of freelancementalists).

― don, Friday, 30 September 2005 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

also: has anybody decided yet which is more deadassed boring, the new grizzy bear album or the new excepter album? so far i think grizzly bear, but i must say it's a pretty close call! (i didn't listen to the grizzly bear remixes album yet, and doubt i will. i never heard anything like by them before anyway. i did hear some excepter stuff i liked last year though.)

― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

(oh yeah, in case they each have 50 new releases i don't know about out, which they probably do since none of these sorts of groups have EDITORS, dammit, the ones i'm referring to would be *horn of plenty* for grizzly bear -- *horn of plenty of boring songs*, more like! -- and *self destruction* for excepter, which i have on now and ok maybe isn't completely horrible, i dunno.)

― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh my god ian. i was SO close to being at that show. we could have had an accidental reunion. damnit!

i trekked out to the hook's industral wasteland two nights prior for all of the providince shit which im sure youre bored of.

how the FUCK ARE YOU?

― emma cleveland (emma cleveland), Friday, 30 September 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha i'm surprised yr alive, emma.
i'm good! no schoool, just workin all the time. may move down to bond with BROCK sometime before the winter.. maybe... maybe.

it would have been funny to see you. we were wasted & smoking weed outside between bands.

― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 1 October 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

alright, so this feathers LP.. is basically the CDr plus some tracks. I'm a little disappointed that they kept ALL the songs from the CDr--especialyl the one I don't like (2nd to last track; don't recall the name off hand. the one that's really strained vocally.)

But the songs are good, especially when they shake off the ISB vibe a little and channel the grateful dead. Vocal harmonies are nice most of the time--sometimes lyrics cloyingly twee.

― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 1 October 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

let's make that "the songs are mostly good." that's an important word.

― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 1 October 2005 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

move to shitmond? i saw brock the other weekend at open dj night in our little ass town. he seems well. he told me hes going to live with his openminded fratty friends. that sounds about right. i dont think he meant you though, even though you might qualify. ha

in 11 days im going to be in italy working as a nanny. (with a swift weeklong stopoff in barcelona.)

― emma cleveland (emma cleveland), Saturday, 1 October 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Are you going to kick ass and take names?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 October 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

i guess (?)...
i dont know what im going to do. im not very domestic.

― emma cleveland (emma cleveland), Saturday, 1 October 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

lets get back on the drone horse and talk about popol vuh!

i think i have all the reissues (so far) and they are all worth getting. i particularly like "die nacht der seele" and "das hohelied salamos."

Any advice here? Any albums I should leave out or replace with others? I'm thinking about dropping the Vibra Orc because well, I need money, and that cover art is simply hideous.

ha otm about the cover, wtf is up with that. but the samples i listened to at the aquarius records site sound awesome.

― amon (eman), Saturday, 1 October 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

im not very domestic.

Travel around cheaply. Where in Italy will you be?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 October 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

parma. its fairly close to milan (a little over an hour), but i dont know if the things im travelling to barcelona for exist in milan. mainly...music.

lets rename this thread emma's personal biography and friend relocation.

― emma cleveland (emma cleveland), Saturday, 1 October 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Aw. (I was in Italy for a bit in July visiting friends in Padova, also got to Venice, Verona and Ferrara -- had a wonderful time.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

its also about an hour and a half to venice but i cant picture that place being like anything but disneyland.

― emma cleveland (emma cleveland), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Emma or emma would be a good name for a psychish band.(Emmaland?) Also Nanny or nanny. (Nannyland?)On same bill with Pram. xpost Vuh, re concern about what not to buy: the title track is the only track I like on City Raga. The notes are mostly fan letters from an expat wasting away in Yucatan, I think it was. She sent Fricke tapes of her extemporizing vocal lines, which sound really nice, kind of in between Bjork and Nelly Furtado, and "City Raga" suits her; guess she might've inspired it, cos most of the rest just sounds like second-rate car commercials. Hope she got paid, but anyway the only other note is from Fricke's daughter, thanking her for the tapes. Get it, but *cheap,* just for that track. (Though, come to think of it,"City Raga" was also on a couple of various artists promos you might be able to google.)

― don, Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

i cant picture that place being like anything but disneyland

Precisely. But it's simple -- just walk down the side roads where the tourists aren't.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ian - I simply refuse to believe you don't like "Past the Moon" - it's the best Feathers song!!!! And also one of my favorite songs of the year! Listen again! (haven't heard the LP yet though)

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Stepping back a bit, a demi-Visitations side project that came out on Time-Lag earlier this year (and is now as far as I can tell totally out of print), Garm's The Acid Skull 205, has as it turns out one of the best Black Sabbath covers I've ever heard. There's actually two, though "War Pigs" is a bit too muffled and fragmentary. "Symptom of the Universe," though, gets a full-on cover in a decades-old/field-recording guy-and-guitar style and just sounds amazing.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

ROGER ADULTERY.

dude, CLOYINGLY TWEE. ANNOYING VOCALS. MORE ELECTRIC GUITAR + POLYRHYTHMS PLS.

― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahahhaa. I dunno, man, I think that song is incredible. I think Kurt is my favorite. He's definitely the most twee, but seems almost helplessly sincere. I am never not in the mood to hear that song.

What are you doing tonight and or monday? I'm doing some solo shows in the big city. Got any cocaine?

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

xpost"on Time-Lag earlier this year (and is now as far as I can tell totally out of print"): alas! Only Lula's Satwa remains in their catalog, right? No dis, but so glad his Paebiru is on Shadoks instead.

― don, Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

whaddya mean, no diss? Shadoks rules but Time-Lag rules just as much.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

where ya playing tonight jaymez? got no cocaine..

― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 1 October 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

i just saw Mister Russell Waterpipe; had I known I would have asked him about it.

― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 1 October 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

oh, it's at pete's candy store.

― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 1 October 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Time-Lag rules but lags in time it keeps things in catalogue (but at least we can get 'em while we can, and its cut-outs are more findable then prev issues of those albums)

― don, Sunday, 2 October 2005 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

mailing list!!!

time-lag shit goes for MONEY on ebay. someone told me that espers LP went for over $250 recently.

― ian j @ laura & jon (laurah), Sunday, 2 October 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, why is this shit made in such limited copies? I love copy of Davenport's "The Hands of Worm Heaven" I got from Time Lag, number 158 out of only 223. I know more than 223 copies of this CD can sell. Why is this stuff so rare? It's really hard to get into psych/drone/freak stuff when you don't have a record player or use Soulseek.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 2 October 2005 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

damn, i really really want that espers LP. maybe i will just have to buy the british version.

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Sunday, 2 October 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

whaddya mean, no diss? Shadoks rules but Time-Lag rules just as much.

like, keep shit in print for more than a month. then we'll talk about "rules."

― el sabor de "already sold out" (yournullfame), Sunday, 2 October 2005 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

Just wanted to point out that the Feathers songs that are repeats from the CDr are very different recordings (multitracked instead of live). Roger, thank you for liking my song. I've been hearing such good reactions to the record and also found Ian's reaction very refreshing.

― Kurt, Thursday, 6 October 2005 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

So I like the new Koenjihyakkei album way more than the new Ruins album (the latter of which is okay, but basically sounds the same as the other Ruins albums I've heard, all of which I thought were okay, none of which have ever blown me away, though I'm sure there are a few hundred I've never heard, so who knows?) Is that weird?

― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

fuck no - koenjihyakkei is more awesome than Ruins

(and it's surreal to me to read chuck eddy posting about koenjihyakkei!!)

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Re: Time Lag. Doesn't lack of supply inflate demand? It's a psych/drone/freak headgame!

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

I play the Feathers vinyl a lot. Where can i get the cdr?

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Time-Lag: maybe ltd. rights to material? Artists may not even own a lot of those anymore, as Lars, for instance, discovered when trying to track down masters and compile/release originals of Garage Inc. covers.(He did, but it took a while, and think could only do it as ltd. ed.)

― don, Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

>it's surreal to me to read chuck eddy posting about koenjihyakkei!<

why?

on the other hand, Made in Mexico = bleh.

(Maybe even worse than Sleeptyime Gorilla Museum, I dunno.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, I guess it's kind of like seeing one of your friends namechecked in People. fwiw, the Ruins that's coming out on Skin Graft (Pallaschtom) is actually a remaster of an album that originally came out in 2000 - and this version does indeed sound better, harder to my ears

I'm all for the word about Koenjihyeakkei getting spread as far as possible btw

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 6 October 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

burning star core cd gets a lot better toward the end of the final 14-minute track "through me", it turns out. but not much before the climactic ending really hold my attention (after playing the CD a whole bunch of times), and again, that second track "nyarlathotep" is unbearable bullshit.

― xhuxk, Friday, 7 October 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

I am really enjoying this album Nadja: Truth Becomes Death.
http://www.alien8recordings.com/aliencd58.php3

I think i'll be buying this when I can.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 10 October 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

wow, mr. eddy is quite the "hatah" on this board. seems myself and him differ a lot

― irio, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

also, rereading his posts everthing is "booooooring" "a real snoozer" and "deadassed boring", maybe mr. eddy shouldn't be listening to and posting on the rolling psych/drone thread??

poor guy needs some coffee, he just can't seem to hear anything that interests him!!!

wahhh

― irio, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I find plenty (see upthread, among many other places). Actually, if anything, I probably find *too many* records that interest me.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

dunno, sounds like catty snap judgments to me

― irio, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, if there's something remotely interesting about those records, why not tell me what it is? Not saying I might not be wrong. I *wanted* to like them, or else I wouldn't have spent time with them to begin with. If I'm missing something, what is it?

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Hell, I even went *back* to the Burning Star Core one after being bored with it. That's not a snap judgement; that's *dedication,* dude.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

So has anyone plunged into the Elegy Box yet? What are the highlights?

― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 24 October 2005 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard the box set yet.

But I would like to recommend the Finnish band Tivol. Theres a new vinyl release out that combines both cdr eps.

I believe one of them used to be in Circle.
Reminds me a bit of early Ash ra Tempel.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 24 October 2005 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

The Bardo track is completely crazy!!

― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 24 October 2005 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

The Bardo Pond track on the Buck Paco split is really good.

Also I ordered the 3 cdr live boris box from archivd and I've just got my hands on the mp3s and it is rocking!

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 24 October 2005 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

The Bardo Pond track on the Buck Paco split is really good.

So true! It starts off slowly, and I caught myself doubting in the majesty of the Pond, but halfway through it shifts and starts whipping me.

And here's a Fursaxa track from the Elegy Box: Fursaxa - Tura Tura and The Light Of The New Crescent

― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 24 October 2005 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

So sad to read back at the start of the thread the bits of talk about DMBQ. :-/

But life continues -- and so, to top off all the other amazing compilations this year has provided, Digitalis brings you (and us all) Gold Leaf Branches:

DISC ONE

1. "thousand birds (live on air)" - six organs of admittance
2. "haava" - kuupuu
3. "first steps" - stuart busby
4. "fanfare" - hala strana
5. "epicenter crystals" - alligator crystal moth
6. "rune of the moon and endymion" - the gray field recordings
7. "wayke up" - maniacs dream
8. "insolación de soles aledaños" - courtis
9. "no ghosts" - james blackshaw
10. "beauty of decay" - robert horton
11. "you were on my side (guitar)" - annelies monseré
12. "kronosdilutze" - soarwhole
13. "just before" - keijo & the free players
14. "friday morning" - timothy, revelator
15. "blast beach" - pefkin
16. "untitled" - visitations
17. "duneuuic" - itdreamedtome
18. "corporelijck punieren" - silvester anfang
19. "ruination of the runaways" - elephant micah
20. "milkstone" - oxblood reincarnations
21. "hiljaa hiivin pois aurinkoon" - kulkija
22. "untitled" - snake oil

DISC TWO

1. "as-yet-untitled" - hertta lussu ässä
2. "i dance because she likes it" - WOLFMANGLER
3. "voice box" - charalambides
4. "guiwenneth of the green wood" - the north sea
5. "missing peace" - brothers of the occult sisterhood
6. "soda jerk (sex with strangers)" - the weird weeds (the laudable pus)
7. "here i give thanks no. 1" - leighton craig & eugene carchesio
8. "the tidal draw" - rameses iii
9. "love style one" - snowfoxx
10. "song from a wasted orchard" - xenis emputae travelling band
11. "being here has caused me sorrow" - the magickal folk of the faraway tree
12. "amongst slow dust of 60 years" - claypipe
13. "fall city" - wax ghost
14. "grower's communion" - the golden oaks
15. "rice leaves" - m. jarvis & a. jarvis
16. "debris" - 6majik9
17. "metsä mansikka mehu lasi" - lamppukello
18. "jazz" - plat ypus
19. "lily, henry, & the willow trees" - marissa nadler

DISC THREE

1. "possibilities" (live @ vpro) - drekka
2. "vines through the window" - anvil salute
3. "far away i have been" - hush arbors
4. "death dances" - the lost domain
5. "hidas kuula" - lau nau
6. "death dealer blues" - wood & wand (feat. the rose)
7. "sea lions" - friendly keys
8. "moving beyond" - keijo
9. "a mess of cedars" - the juniper meadows
10. "innumerable night" - agitated radio pilot
11. "sky love this day" - terracid
12. "we will not whisper" - dead raven choir
13. "saunankatolla 2004" - master qsh
14. "unborn child" (live) - nick castro (w/ b'eirth)
15. "last sunbeams in a darkening hall" - jani hellén
16. "lullaby" - the does
17. "no more dripping from windsor's beard" - mike tamburo
18. "kuu putoaa" – braspyreet

Majorly kickass. Just got my copy today and will probably spend Saturday day happily blasting it out as I catch up on some needed writing work.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 November 2005 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

looks good,there have been 2 compilations released this year that knock me off my feet the whole way through. By the Fruits You Shall Know the Roots and The Tone of the Universe = the Tone of the Earth

dunno the labels anymore but both are stuffed with the best drone/psych/freak released this year. i see u already talked about this up thread though. good

― rizzx, Friday, 18 November 2005 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

I would definitely like to hear By the Fruits at some point.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

I am really enjoying this album Nadja: Truth Becomes Death.
http://www.alien8recordings.com/aliencd58.php3
I think i'll be buying this when I can.

-- Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (pfunkbo...), October 10th, 2005.

Man, the only mentions of Nadja that come up in the search are made by you and I. I love Body Cage the mostest. If only I could find a record store that carried it.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

I finally got myself a cd of this. Impossible to track down the other stuff.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 10 March 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

any of you guys heard the lesli dabala record, lung tree? any good? (i see stuart dempster plays on it)

― 696, Sunday, 20 May 2007 09:11 (eighteen years ago)

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