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I quite like the single 'The Hand That Feeds'

anybody heard the whole thing yet?

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

The first time I heard the single I said "Oh, Trent liked the Rapture's album, too." But I'm gonna buy the damn thing anyway.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

"The Hand that Feeds" reminded me of something that should have been on the Tomb Raider soundtrack or something like that....seemed pretty standard-fare NIN, except maybe a little more dancey (in a 90s kinda way)...I like the short little squelchy, noisy synth bridge halfway through, wish that was the whole song.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm quite happily waiting.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I don't think that it's going to be great, but I'm looking forward to hearing it anyway.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Matt OTM. that bridge is great.

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

new single is horrid

― charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

The main guitar chord riff sounds a little like the one from "fight song" by Marilyn Manson.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm retracting my previous positive opinion of the single. I don't think its horrid, but it got old really, really fast. I kind of feel bad for Trent. Dude seems to be genuinely excited about his record when its probably going to get shit-canned by everyone upon release.

― jason., Monday, 11 April 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

I'm currently downloading track 13 of the album. At snails pace on dial up. But i'm excited to hear what a non-single track sounds like.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

dudes in roling stone comparing it to PIL and Gang of 4. shit i mean thats pretty lame....

― charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

How do you mean?

I love both of those bands.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Well

"Right Where It Belongs" (track 13)

is alright on first listen. It kind of sounds like Stina Nordenstam. Very Odd. Might work well in the context of the album

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

im just tired of PIL/ Gof4 comparisons.

― charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, i agree with you there. It's a comparison i really really do not get in this instance.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

you know, there's one song called "getting smaller" which i thought for *sure* would be the single - it's real lean, cacaphonous, punky - it screams "comeback! track!" the one they went with instead pales in comparison.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

has it actually leaked yet, then?!

we saw them a couple of weeks ago and they were *amazing*, one of the best gigs i've ever been to.

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

im just tired of PIL/ Gof4 comparisons.

Depends on which PiL and which Go4.

Comparing NIN to Flowers Of Romance and Mall respectively wouldn't be shocking.. (neither would it be too flattering, at least for the latter half of the equation.)

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

"getting smaller" was floating around a filesharing service by its lonesome, but it is from the new record.

i wanted to get tickets for the NY show, but they sold out during *presale*.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

i want more brooding soundscapes not big arena rock shit. someone lock trent up with brian eno and limited gear.

― kephm, Monday, 11 April 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

I was just listening to Flowers of Romance today.. total brilliance. I am very curious about this new record. I like the single more than I did on first listen & apparently TR has been listening to a lot of DFA stuff as well as the early 80's dance punk.

I'd totally go see a show but can't afford/get tix right now. But I guess they'll be on tour a while, so maybe later.

I expect Pitchfork will shit-can the album because most of their writers were probably well into NIN in their teenage years and have to be like "NOO! MUST REJECT!" :)

― daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)

I also think With Teeth is a really funny title, in a good way. Kind of wry.

― daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

After seeing them live, I'm all over the new album...and I'd say if you've half a mind to see future shows, do it, because if the warm-up shows are any indication they'll at least be giving you your money's worth. I'm digging the new single, and I'm hoping the new album will deliver the goods...I'd hate for the single to be the strongest track, etc. I *really* like the video too...nice to see him without all the bells and whistles.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 02:02 (twenty years ago)

the single sounds like Reznor singing over a corny ReBirth preset.

― Amon (eman), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, the March of the Pigs video was minus all the bells and whistles, unless you count copious amounts of makeup, and shiny pants. Surreptitiously watching 120 Minutes at like age fifteen and seeing that, it warped my fragile little mind. And it scared my cat! It did!

I'll probably go. I saw them in 1994 early in the Spiral tour before "Closer" blew up, which was a treat, and for much of it I even stopped fretting about not being sufficiently gothX0r to be there. But fuck that, T-Rez is a geek from a shitty small town, too.

― daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

That was one thing about the concert recently...it felt like 1993...hordes & swarms of decked-out goths, barely any jeans to be seen, it was kind of cool. But I still reacted the same way...'damn, I should've gothed up a little more'...

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

I heard the album at a listening party. It was alright I guess.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

yeah i went one of those listening parties in atlanta with my friend who's a MASSIVE fucking NIN nerd (and i'm a pretty sad diehard fan so that's saying something), the album sounded alright but i couldn't hear it well because the sound in the club was abysmal. plus i was drunk. i really like 'getting smaller', but the 'hand that feeds' is meh.

im going to see em live in may though, yee! then autechre a week later, so i'm psyched.

― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

To answer the thread question, yes, but I haven't heard the single.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, I wasn't a nerd enough to drive to the next city to attend a listening party.. shoot, though, I'm gonna regret not getting tix to one of the early shows if that's the vibe. Gaggles of gothlings everywhere. I never see them any more. Where do they hide?

― daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Goth clubs.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

I saw a little bit of the single's video the other day. This is the first NIN single I've heard that I haven't immediately liked; in fact, it really irritated me.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like goth disco to me.
Still, I wish I could have gotten tickets to the show.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

right where it belongs is the best of the leaked tracks so far. it sounds a lot like the more ambient material on "still," which is the direction I wanted him to go with this album.

― jason., Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

This is the first NIN single I've heard that I haven't immediately liked; in fact, it really irritated me.

yeah, the chorus is especially irritating!

what i've heard of the rest of the album sounds decent, though i'll reserve judgement 'til i hear it in its entirety, of course.

― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

i really like "the line begins to blur"

anticipation level raised to ORANGE

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I like that one too. A lot. Sludgy and doom-y.

― daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Its leaked now. I was gonna ysi, but it was takin foreva. Heres a torrent link instead:

http://tracker.piratbyran.org/torrents-details.php?id=3316739

― jason., Thursday, 14 April 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Unfortunately on dialup i can't get it :(

i have the song 'only' though. It's really good.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

what the hey, I gotta write a paper anyways:
http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LJASC5EUTG9H2KYM65I1JGCG9
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2DD6U177QPSCB1PLBFCKZRKJ3V
http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=034FNS92YGD1W3GNLK53Y6TEFN

more to come.

― jason., Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

PLEASE COME BACK PROG LOVIN, ADRIAN BELEW USING, COOL AMBIENT TEXTURES TRENT. YOU WERE SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF YOUR TIME AND WE FORGIVE YOU. PLZ DO NOT RELEASE RICHARD DIVINE SOUNDING WACKNESS OR PRETTY HATE MACHINE BACKWARDS THINKING SHIT.

― charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Jason...words cannot express how much i love you for those links.

so i will mash the keyboard instead

l.gpu.;;/ikppp;.bg;.juyfu;i/ub'

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

im skipping over the already leaked tracks. everyone who wants em should have them by now:

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1O2XD8VN0N7FX3TVE5AQK3VYV9
http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0JZWNP4JJUESF25FNI4009JZPZ
http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13LLYX371YION2MMZWQ200BHL7
a-with-a-tee-thuh

― jason., Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

this is taking so long on dial up but oh so worth it. Thanks again jason.

this is an official WITH TEETH ALL NIGHTER

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

thanks jason!

― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09NN5L26YHWAO24KZKWZ53LI9V
http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EPO7HHIIP86O1HLLTJRV50HT8
http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26SCTPAYPEI473J55BVQO7NOKM

― jason., Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0PLWTL5IYRVI308SLDET1JGOVB

That'll be it.

― jason., Thursday, 14 April 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

"Only" is the "trent

― mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 15 April 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

nine inch nails - "with baby teeth"

― harshaw (jube), Friday, 15 April 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm missing four tracks :(

if someone would gmail/yousendit or AIM me these i would be very grateful

*The Collector
*Love Is Not Enough
*Every Day Is The Same
*Beside You In Time

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 15 April 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Ok...initial thoughts:

All The Love In The World - A really low key opener for a NIN album. Infact for a comeback album. It's a pretty song though, some nice cut up drum stuff that everybody seems to be using. It almost sounds like Junior Boys.

You Know What You Are - This is more like what i expected. Super fast drum pattern and and distorted guitar that ebbs and flows through the verses. NIN by numbers chorus, but it still has some allure.

The Collector - Trying to pick out Dave Grohl's drum parts on the album is a fun game. This one sounds like it could be him. But it also sounds like Trent is telling him EXACTLY what to do. It works though. Really good beat. Big chorus. At the moment all this is still striking me as quite forgettable.

The Hand That Feeds - The single. Not much more can be said about this than what others have said. I do love the keyboard bridge though.

Love Is Not Enough - Really nice drone-y opening minute. Nothing else has grabbed me here yet though.

Everyday Is Exactly The Same - I really like the piano opening. This sounds more like Downward Spiral era stuff in a way. But at the same time i think he knows that sound is done now. So Instead it's replaced with more twisted pop. This is great. In an alternate universe i can see Britney singing this.

With Teeth - Now this has to be Grohl drumming. Another really cool beat. And some strange electronic raindrop sound that is cool at the start. Actually i just had a horrible thought. It sounds a little bit like Korn. But i love the "WITH-ah TEETH-ah" bit. Very nice. Cuts out to a piano and quiet vocals. Very much like in 'Mr Self Destruct'. Slowly builts up blah blah you know the formula by now.

Only - Somebody said this sounds like Dismemberment Plan and they are right. More twisted pop. This is really fantastic. Trent's delivery is great.

Getting Smaller - Should have been the comeback single. Really immediate.

Sunspots - This keeps passing me by in a haze of 'meh'. Though the synth or whatever sound that is around 2:30 is nice.

The Line Begins To Blur - I really like this one. The verse sounds horrible (in a good way) before giving way to one of those atmospheric NIN choruses.

Beside You In Time - Build Build Drone Build Build. This is good.

Right Where It Belongs - Nice closing song. The piano haunts the whole track while Trent employs the whole "is it me or is this track quite quiet" until everything comes fading up halfway through.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

If anyone wants to do a new YSI I will, in return, relate a completely stupid, meaningless and very short anecdote about Trent Reznor.

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

i would do one in a heartbeat if i wasn't on 56k dialup

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

If you've got bt, use that link -- I'm d/l'ing now and it's moving pretty fast.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm at work--BitTorrent is a no-go but they pay no attention to HTTP traffic. 5 hours left here, anticipating the Dizzee show tonight, waiting to hear new NIN. Fridays are sheer pain.

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Trent, when walking his dogs around the Garden District (where he lived) of New Orleans, would pretend to talk on his cell phone so no one would talk to him. What a dick. We used to share a Hollywood Video location--people there said he was kind of brusque.

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh, the horror!

Call me crazy, but this record kills. I did NOT think it would be this good. Really a big fan of "With Teeth" (the song). PWNZ ALL

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

The dog and video store thing was my Trent anecdote by the way. Good, huh?

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to be patient and wait on the album release, like I did with the Cure record last year...just stretching out the anticipation a bit. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Don't you mean "With Teeth-AH" daria g?

x-post

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

I didn't have much anticipation, more.. general curiosity, because I used to be so into them a decade ago, so it's been quite a surprise. Like I said, I wasn't expecting it to be this good. Maybe I wasn't expecting it to be good at all. I thought all sorts of stuff was painfully wrong with The Fragile and find it a pretty torturous listen. Reznor did well to get off the drugs - it's a very clearheaded record. In fact, the first single is probably the weakest track and meant to be somewhat tossed-off. And I hadn't expected that either because his general control freakery leads you to think whatever got released first was some major statement. It's not meant to be.

This dude I knew back in the day once met Marilyn Manson at a Subway restaurant in Florida. Asked him what he was ordering (a meatball sub), and then told him he'd seen their show the night before and it sucked. Hah.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

you aren't crazy, it is good.

i'm trying to be careful about saying that i love it yet because anytime i do that i grow tired of the record after about a week.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 15 April 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

OK then. I am a huge, unabashed fan of it. And I would not be in the mood to make apologies because of fandom a decade ago, if Reznor had turned out some blast of hyperdramatic, overwrought anguish. But he didn't. And somehow he doesn't sing through his nose as much, either. Much appreciated.

Obv I know what "With Teeth" sounds like if I say I like it! It works, hey. Sick, sick, sick track.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

My reaction:

Generally, noisier=better with this album. There are some very plain rock songs on here (e.g. "With Teeth", "Only"), but he really shines with the mammoth sludge-rock on tracks like "The Line Begins To Blur" (which reminds me of something that Justin Broaderick would do). "Everyday Is Exactly the Same" sounds like a future single. Just because "The Hand That Feeds" has a disco beat doesn't mean you have to bust out the Rapture or PiL comparisons.

"Beside You In Time" is the clear standout, reminscent of Six By Seven's cavernous, ultra-dense songs (such as "Ten Places to Die" or "American Beer").

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

Back up, back up – Trent was on drugs? Recently? Site your source plz

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

I haven't heard the full album, but I'm kinda into the song on Daily Refill today. ("Sunspots")

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Apparently, up to about four years ago. This isn't a secret, there was an article in the LA Times a couple days back, prob the arts listings section - it's a pretty candid interview. I gather he was a complete mess, serious alcoholic, other stuff. It's sad. OD'd on heroin in London on the last tour, but his people covered that one up. Hold on.. here you go:

http://www.calendarlive.com/music/pop/cl-ca-reznor10apr10,0,6853650.story

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

After reading Trent's comments about the music he listened to while recording the album, I withdraw my criticism of the knee-jerk PiL/Go4 comparisons

"With Teeth" (2005)
"It was mostly like old Gang of Four, Public Image Ltd.'s 'Flowers of Romance,' some Pere Ubu. It wasn't so much for songwriting, but for the spirit of those records. I wanted to avoid … over-production, which can often result in losing the human touch in the music.

I wanted the album to sound fresh and immediate."

Also, it suddenly (and shockingly) occured to me that the time elapsed between "The Downward Spiral" and "The Fragile" is less than that between "The Fragile" and "With Teeth".

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 15 April 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it's been a while. I expected a five year gap as per usual, not six.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 April 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, who has all the Halos? I DO I DO!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 April 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

I read that as sung by Kathleen Hanna circa "I Like Fucking." The unholy conflation of Ned and KH will haunt my dreams.

I sold all my Halos in a late-teenage fit of indieness. Ugh. I want to go back in time and beat myself up.

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 April 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

I have MOST of them. Should go through the collection for exact numbers.

Thanks, Daria -- I had no clue dude went through so much.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 April 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

I owned most of them and was a hardcore fan like ten (!) years ago. My "Head Like a Hole" and "Sin" singles have somehow vanished and I'm not sure quite how, and I suspect the same may have happened for the "Closer" single, I can't remember. I also went through an indie snob phase & prob tried to forget most of this part of my life, so I sold my Pretty Hate Machine and Broken CDs. I did keep dubbed cassette copies of them and a bootleg tape from the Downward Spiral tour, though, and the Downward Spiral disc itself.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 15 April 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

This isn't a commentary on the quality of those records, either - I got rid of a lot of stuff I wish I had now during the years when I tried hard to be teh indie hipness.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 15 April 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

i heard it last night. it's ok. more of the same sludge rock arena sound thing. the first track is the only one that grabs me. nice piano work there. i hate it how there are random bits of synth/sound here or there that shine, but vanish much too fast. another thing i did like was on one of the later tracks there are PHM-type vocals, which is nice.

"i used ot have a purpose, i used to have a voice'
So True!

― kephm, Friday, 15 April 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Me too. With M83 a hot prospect, can hipster discovery of Projekt be far behind? 1.5 hours til I can go home and get the NIN record. "Sunspots" is really good. xpost re: selling good stuff

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 April 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

I don't really care what hipsters think, if they do, any more. I've been slowly rebuying things I missed but I also can't afford to spent all my income on records now. Oh well.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 15 April 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

ok. beside you in time and right where you belong are well done. even if the drones are paint by number at this point, the piano and vocals from 1991trent. and usually i dont go for crowd samples but it works for the closer

so hey it starts and ends on good notes.

― kephm, Friday, 15 April 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

But it also sounds like Trent is telling him EXACTLY what to do

Ya Think?

― kephm, Friday, 15 April 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

i love the falsetto on the first track

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 15 April 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

The album has been leaked. Got it.

― elgolfo (elgolfo), Friday, 15 April 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Yes it has been leaked. Had you read the thread, you would see this is not news.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 April 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

listening to it now....i'm not quite sure if i like it or not.

― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Friday, 15 April 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

I LIKE IT

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

IT SUCKS

― charleston charge (chaki), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)

NAH DUDE

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

KIND OF

― charleston charge (chaki), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

i guess its not as bad as Guero

― charleston charge (chaki), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

Less Beck = more good.

― adam (adam), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

PWNZ ALL! So good.

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

NOOOOO WAY MAN

― charleston charge (chaki), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

My faith in Chaki-al Infallibility is shaken.

PWNZ INDEED

― adam (adam), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

dude i still like good shit i promise

― charleston charge (chaki), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)

No, uh, that's yr thing, taste is taste. I think it's amazing, though. I mean, you said you wanted ambient soundscapes! I wanted early PiL death disco.

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

no i just think its cheesy for trent to be pandering to the trendos. he was doing what he wanted to do with the fragile and it was a critical failure. this is the obvious move want to sound like pil and to me it comes off sounding a bit forced. GET ONE CHRIS VERENA.

― charleston charge (chaki), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

no vrenna plz

I like the swooshy songs.

― adam (adam), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

He was always writing lots of accessible pop songs, though. I just think on the Fragile they were badly tuned and missing some gears and didn't often function properly. I don't think it's pandering, it's just what he liked... the trendy kids were never their fanbase. I mean, wouldn't the obvious pandering move be to write some really prettified Cure influenced new wave tunes that wipe the floor with all the glossy Killers/Teh Bravery/etc. that's actually getting lots of airplay? It's not like LCD Soundsystem is selling out Madison Square.

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

this is getting better with every listen.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

I'll second that. The basic drums-bass-guitar Korn+PiL-style tracks are less interesting than the huge-sounding atmospheric noisy tracks.

xxpost

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

this album has a really strong final 5 songs.

really strong.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

huge sounding atmospheric noisy tracks? where?

― kephm, Saturday, 16 April 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

The Fragile was far more pandering than this is. I think Trent even admitted that it was basically TDS II because he thought thats what people wanted in some old interview. I remember that vaguely.

Anyways, With Teeth is better than the Fragile, which was a total uninspired bore carried by its fancy production. This new one drags in several places, but at least hes not just going through the motions through the whole thing. I like it a lot more than I was expecting.

― jason., Saturday, 16 April 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

re:chris vrenna

no, tweaker was so bloody dull.

― jason., Saturday, 16 April 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)

I don't think there are any parts that drag! Maybe it's where my head's at right now but I like this thing better than Downward Spiral. I like it better than any new record I've heard in a long time, actually. It's all kinds of cool and unexpected. After disappearing for six years after a massive sprawl of a double album, I didn't think he'd resurface with a garage band for crying out loud.

DUDES ITS REALLY GOOD

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 16 April 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

huge sounding atmospheric noisy tracks? where?

The darker, more aggressive-sounding, denser tracks (i.e. more like older NIN) as opposed to the more straight-ahead rock songs.

For instance, "You Know What You Are" and "Love Is Not Enough" recall mid-90's NIN. On the other hand, a track like "Getting Smaller" recalls mid-90's Metallica.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 16 April 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)

this is definately in the top 3 new things i've heard so far this year.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm excited for this now, thanks guys. I wish slsk wasn't being such a dick.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

I've got it, sounds really good so far.

Shit, Trent gets better live drum sounds than just about anyone.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I think the restrained (for Grohl) drum work on this is actually it's secret weapon. Every single beat is great.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Hee hee hee. This is a pleasant anticipation to wait on May 3 this way...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Is it all Grohl? Some of it really doesn't sound like him, I'm wondering if it's Trent's drummer de jour (Jerome Dillon I think, he always has amazing drummers anyway).

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

He even made Tommy Lee sound great. *avoids hordes of Motley apologists*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

It is definately Grohl and he is definately restrained (by trent). Although i can't decide if thats him on track 2 or programmed drums or what. If it's him then thats a good fucking performance.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Drums sound fantastic indeed. "Sunspots" is a monster.

Dammit, dammit, why didn't I get a ticket for the club tour. What does one do in these situations? I bought a ticket from someone outside a sold out Nick Cave show once, and nearly got ripped off because I didn't know which kind of ticket was the real one. . I am kinda naive sometimes.

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 16 April 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

He even made Tommy Lee sound great.

To what are you referring, Ned?

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 16 April 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

i'm diggin' it.

― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Saturday, 16 April 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

cf Pere Ubu, Dub Housing. Go listen.

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 16 April 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Although i can't decide if thats him on track 2 or programmed drums or what

I'm pretty positive that it's sequenced, but it sounds like him in the choruses.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 16 April 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

To what are you referring, Ned?

Check the drum credits on The Downward Spiral sometime. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Ned Raggett; superfan.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

How can I be a superfan when I'm not downloading the album yet? ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

i never got the bit about the steakhouse: tommy lee thing

― latebloomer: strawman knockdowner (latebloomer), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Only a superfan would say that Ned ;)

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

YAY WONDERFUL ME

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

i give it a 7 out of 10.
the first and 2 last songs are the only ones that scream out to me.
and....that's about it

― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Sunday, 17 April 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

i'd seriously give it an 8 (maybe a nine if it grows in me more).

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 17 April 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I listened to it a few times now. I like the done-y track and & I liked how he approached the vocals on Sunspots. All The Love... sounds like a Fragile throwaway. So far it's hit and miss for me. There's still some of the old NIN here and there which I've grown tired of and there's a few new things trent is trying which are the elements I'm finding myself more drawn to (right now).

On the 1-10 scale I'm giving it a "meh". But I'm quite sure this thing will grow on me.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 17 April 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh!

Mind In Rewind - are you hearing this too; when you listen to With Teeth: "WITH BA-TI-STAAAA"!

No? Well you probably will now.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 17 April 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

He was always writing lots of accessible pop songs, though. I just think on the Fragile they were badly tuned and missing some gears and didn't often function properly.

The first CD of The Fragile clicks seamlessly for me with certain standout tracks ("The Day The Whole World Went Away", "We're In This Together Now", "The Fragile", "The Wretched") looming larger in my mind. Having said that, there is some very odd thing about the arrangement of the first verse of "WITTN" and the chorus that makes it sound like the chorus should be a half-step below where it is; I don't know exactly what it is because it doesn't happen on the second verse but if I had to guess it is that Trent is singing a little flat at the end of the first verse because the backing track is so sparse and there aren't any supporting vocal overdubs to help him hold onto the correct pitch in the first verse.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 17 April 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

(haha I typed that last sentence in one breath)

― The Ghost of Use A Fucking Comma, Douchebag (Dan Perry), Sunday, 17 April 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

You were counterbalancing RJG's love of the humble comma.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 17 April 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 17 April 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

xxpost,,,,,

I think I actually prefer a few tracks on the second disc of Fragile, the tracks with Bone Machine type of instruments especially "The big come down." "Into the void" is a trip.

To me, a lot of Fragile sounds like a certain kind of crazy person made it. Whether the lyrics are decent or very very bad, quite a lot of them have this excessive singsong quality. It's as if it were absolutely necessary to force the words into a very strict rhyme, umm.. well, it's like a mental patient sitting in the corner saying "I can't hear you, I can't hear you" over and over. And it really beats you over the head with that. There are crazy people who blurt out streams of free associative nonsense, and then there are crazy people who keep saying the same thing. I say "crazy" with the utmost empathy, but this record often sounds desperate and pitiable to me. Can't get beyond these qualities to just appreciate the inventiveness of the music.

― daria g (daria g), Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone else downloaded the GarageBand version of "The Hand That Feeds" and tried remixing it yet?

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 24 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I anticipate today by playing The Fragile now, as I wait to eventually get off work.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

yay!

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

It's not how I forgot how weird this album is, more that it took some time away to appreciate how weird it is.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Three songs in and it's definitely much more focused than The Fragile, which isn't a complaint on that album, merely noting that its more diffused nature is both a strength and a reason why it's hard to get a grasp on as immediately (aren't half the songs on it instrumentals?). Now if I could only figure out why there's an occasional (and clearly NOT intentional) CD skip (at least there's the DVD version to play if needed).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

You know, now that I'm hearing "The Hand That Feeds" in full for the first time...it's pretty damned great. Anyway, onward.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

"Only" is actually the most amusing/interesting surprise of the disc so far, in that it combines Trent's inspired hijacking of sounds as he desires (more neo-postpunk minimal drive) with a kind of speak/sing on some of the verses that I don't think has been heard from him since the days of "Down In It."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

the 2 last songs are the only ones i think are great

― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

It does end very well. Good album but I think not as involving as I expected on first listen -- but I'll be willing to bet it gets better every time I relisten.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)

I might maybe pick this up tomorrow. has the DFA mix of "Hand That Feeds" turned up yet?

― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

Was gonna start a thread on this, but why bother?

If any of you are going to be doing an interview feature with Trent in the near future, LESS ON ADDICTIONS, MORE ON SHEDDING BANDMATES, SIDE PROJECTS, AND THE RIDICULOUSNESS OF HIS HAIRCUT ON A MAN ON THE VERGE OF 40 PLZ OK THKS BYE

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

I have only heard "the hit" once on the radio .. I suppose it was The Hand That Feeds ..? Catchy, but was the bassline ripped off from "Big Bottom"?

― diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

The last two songs kind of use the same production trick, but in slightly different ways. "Right Where It Belongs" is so compressed for the first half of the song that it really sounds like something opening up when it takes off. It's also an interesting shift, because first the guitar then the vocal start to become more clear as the crowd noise comes in.

Nine Inch Nails stuff actually does work better on better audio equipment -- I'm guessing about half the effect of most of these songs just drops off on radio. I'm listening on some crap headphones I have at work and it's noticeably different.

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Second listen through and I'm already thinking this is pretty genius. It is ultimately conservative in that for the most part Trent has a style that he works and reworks without going too much beyond, but within those parameters he comes up with more winners than not. I'm thinking all those extensive studio hibernations are his best ally, because if he was doing an album a year or something the essential sameness would be dominant, but disappearing for a long while and coming back gives everything more a sense of momentum and relative newness. (In this way he's avoided the fate of obvious role model G. Numan.) The Fragile is the exception to the general pattern, though, as I muttered above, and I think might yet be more appreciated with time for that reason.

In respects the album's greatest potential flaw is that in the same way he plundered a bit of jungle towards the end of the nineties I would have loved to have seen what he did with grime now, for instance. Ah well, roll on the live shows.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I still love it. Style? How would you describe that? I can certainly hear it but I don't know how you'd talk about it. I seem to have completely run out of language lately, and I used to be a pretty articulate person! arrgh.

― daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

Formula if you like. Not always, but often, as much of a base formula as most acts, how he sings, staccato lyrical structure, shoutalong chorus, etc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

he plundered a bit of jungle towards the end of the nineties

*SHUDDER*

I think the album's greatest flaw is how he's channeled commercial hard rock (I believe I said something similar upthread). On tracks like "Wish" he was obviously getting inspiration from mainstream metal but he made it so noisy and distorted that you couldn't possibly confuse it for anything else in the charts. Whereas a few tracks on "With Teeth" are a bit too close to the nu-metal blueprint for me.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

If anything I think nu-metal was trying to ride *his* jock!

*SHUDDER*

What, not a "Perfect Drug" fan?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I've only listened to the first six tracks or so, but I really like "You Know What You Are?" a lot better than "The Hand That Feeds," and in fact think it would have been a more successsful single.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

Merci, Ned..

That makes sense re: commercial hard rock. I was listening to a bit of System of a Down yesterday and really noticed the metal-y aggression they have was so much fiercer than anything you'd get from listening to QOTSA and such. Didn't cross my mind with Broken because I never listened to metal.

I liked the skittering beats on "Perfect Drug" but the chorus seemed kind of patched in. Still think it's rather a shame TR didn't seriously work on anything else in that style back when jungle was still somewhat fresh and interesting.

― daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Ha, "Perfect Drug" resoundingly put an end to the glory days of my NIN fandom.

And nu-metal definitely rode Trent's jock, but still, he's never sounded as nu-metal as he does on (portions of) the new album.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

Everytime I hear "Bite the Hand that Feeds", I expect to hear an announcer come on say, "Angelina Jolie....IS.....Lara Croft, Tomb Raider", then cut to a motorcycle jumping out of an explosion.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

" I was listening to a bit of System of a Down yesterday and really noticed the metal-y aggression they have was so much fiercer than anything you'd get from listening to QOTSA and such. "

i take it you've heard the new QotSA then...

i agree, but SoD suk.

― eedd, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

nuh-uh

― charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Perfect Drug is his best song!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

i bought the CD today and it sounds a lot better than the mp3s. I still really love this album.

The UK bonus tracks are a bit boring though :(

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

i take it you've heard the new QotSA then...

Yes. Well, not many times, but I've listened to it in record shops over and over, trying to figure out why I should care, and it's not grabbing me. Josh Homme's vocals strike me as too carefully mannered. Whereas SOTD are just so over the top insane they're brilliant. The QotSA was actually on when I went to the shop today and bought With Teeth (which does indeed sound a LOT better on disc).

It was funny, I was also buying a Boredoms record when I went to buy the NIN, and indie record shop guy kind of looks at me, and looks down, and is like.. "uh, are you a Boredoms fan?" And I start babbling about how much I like Pop Tatari and Chocolate Synthesizer much to my regret, because I ought to have put on my raging lunatic hat and been like OMG T-REZ RULES TEH WORLD. Just for kicks. Yes I am in yr record store and I am not cool!

― daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

I listened to The Downward Spiral today and I do declare that this new one is not a good album

― fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

i was bored at best buy so i picked this up and i have to say it does sound a lot better than the mp3's. after listening to it a few times i really, really like it but not as much as "the fragile"

― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

This review I found is hilarious!

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/mp_050305.html

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 8 May 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

That is truly ridiculous.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

ROFFLEZ

http://www.stereogum.com/archives/001458.html

― daria g (daria g), Sunday, 8 May 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

I do like the extended explanation about why the CD packaging is the way it was. It gets a bit "WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD MAN" towards the end but hey.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

oh wow. that 'hand that feeds' v. 'ghostbusters' mashup at stereogum is cruel, cruel, cruel. and accurate.

― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 8 May 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)

this is a bad record

― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 8 May 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

:-(

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

I bought it today and I'm loving it. Okay maybe it's not experimental & it's entirely within his comfort zone, it's not Broken or Pretty Hate Machine...though a lot of the beats on this one are hearkening back to those days, methinks...anyhoo what I was getting at is dammit, he's good at this, and I'm cool with him playing in the sandbox for as long as he wants. I'm a little bemused by the out and out bad reviews, because I'm just not hearing anything bad on here.

I love the beat on the title track, btw.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/musicreviews/n/nine_inch_nails.htm

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 8 May 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeowch. What a meanie...

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

"Shit sandwich" 2k5

― latebloomer: the rebel sound of grits and bacon (latebloomer), Sunday, 8 May 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

now really...

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

the review i mean.

― latebloomer: the rebel sound of grits and bacon (latebloomer), Sunday, 8 May 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

I haven't listened to NIN in more than passing since I was 15-16 (not for any other reason than I drifted away from the indistrial stylee when I was in my late teens). I'm planning on buying the album once I get paid this weekend. Would a used copy of "The Fragile" be worth picking up, too? I only remember hearing"Starfuckers, Inc." from it, which I liked at the time, but that's been like six years ago.

Trent, when walking his dogs around the Garden District (where he lived) of New Orleans, would pretend to talk on his cell phone so no one would talk to him. What a dick.

I do this too when I'm walking around sometimes. And I'm not even famous! I just hate strangers.

― sugarpants: baby's face on football! (sugarpants), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

The Fragile has some pretty worthwhile material on it. If you can get it cheap, go for it. I'm a totally casual fan and there's a bunch of good, underrated songs on that record. I was listening to a lot of NIN for the first time in ages just recently, and I was really impressed by a lot of the music on the record in particular.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

That's why I was considering buying it; I think it would be easy to get my hands on, and it always seems like it's the underrated/"disappointing" releases yield the most treats. I will take that as a recommendation. :D

Also — now that I've admitted that I fake phone conversations, how did people know that Trent was doing that? Does that mean people know when I'm doing it?! ON NOES

― sugarpants: baby's face on football! (sugarpants), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

He has been tracking your every move.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Well, whudathought - this is actually very good! Or maybe I'm just having an anticipated nostalgia crisis...

― The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Monday, 30 May 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...

Worst album of the year

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

I broke down and bought this and I really enjoy it! I even like "The Hand That Feeds" now!.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Tour dates announced with QOTSA, no idea when tix go on sale but I for one will be in line for the Arco show here at Sac. YAY!

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

That's an odd-ass double bill.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I broke down and bought this and I really enjoy it! I even like "The Hand That Feeds" now!.

-- The Ghost of Dan Perry (djperr...), June 28th, 2005.

yeah that song kinda grew on me, too. still don't like the chorus, though.

trent put up the new single 'only' as files to remix for garageband, ableton live, pro tools and acid. i made a remix in ableton live, and programmed the drums in Reason using the samples provided in the download.

http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2UV6EP4BN7EVU0ZYAU2Y1KIQU3

― latebloomer: now with 20% less cetacean content (latebloomer), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Not completely, they're both on the same corporate monolith via Interscope.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

DFA1979 is also playing a few shows with NIN/QOTSA

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

OMFG

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

That's even yet still more odder.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Braindead here, requesting more information: what's DFA1979?

I guess it is an odd double bill. I got excited because I like both of them, even if QOTSA is sans-Nick & Josh is kind of a show pony.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

DFA1979 = Death from Above 1979. Great few records (bass & drums & lots of high pitched yelling like Jeff Buckley on crack). Best heard and not seen. Once I saw them (on Conan O'Brien of all places), my opinion of them dropped several fathoms.

Fun records, though.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Hmm. They sound equal parts cool / not cool. I guess I'll find out in September, eh?

But I'm still primarily excited about NIN, because that warm-up show in Davis was a-mazing.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

The song "With Teeth" is fucking outstanding.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

That it is.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

My fave is still 'All teh Love'

― Baaderonixx le Belge (Fabfunk), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

"Beside You In Time" - k-PWNAGE

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Everytime I hear "Bite the Hand that Feeds", I expect to hear an announcer come on say, "Angelina Jolie....IS.....Lara Croft, Tomb Raider", then cut to a motorcycle jumping out of an explosion.

This is OTM and completely awesome.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

I really like the little synth breakdown in 'Hand that Feeds', which somehow reminds me of the moog solo on the Cure's 'End of the World'

― Baaderonixx le Belge (Fabfunk), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

Any reassessments?

― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

It hasn't left my stereo since it came out, but since June my stereo has been where I accidentally forgot it.. halfway across the country. oops! So I don't know, but I think Ned is right about Trent staying within fairly strict parameters here and it's kind of a shame that he does that, because I do see how some of Fragile is weirdly lots more interesting. more open.

― d g (daria g), Thursday, 15 December 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

2006 Summer US tour: Nine Inch Nails + Bauhaus (+ TV On The Radio on the first leg)

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:00 (twenty years ago)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Typical, though -- they're playing Irvine around when I was planning on being out of town up in Seattle. Hmmm.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:31 (twenty years ago)

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE LACK OF A NEW ORLEANS SHOW. BOSSIER CITY WTF

― adam (adam), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:22 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Although it looks like I should make the Irvine show after all now, which is good. Meantime, as for the recent Every Day Is Exactly the Same EP, the DFA mix of "The Hand That Feeds" turns out to be just all right (I mean, it's good and all, but it's clearly them from ten miles off), but the Photek mix of same frickin' kills.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 May 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

(Although now it seems like the Irvine show is off the schedule? Fiddlesticks. But maybe this means I can make the Legendary Pink Dots show instead...or alternately, maybe I can leave later for my trip and catch Radiohead? HMMM.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 May 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Easily his wekest album this, though "All the Love in the World" is a belter. The moment when the almost joyous piano riff bursts out of the gloom is exhilarating.

― chap, Sunday, 3 February 2008 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, the sudden transition to piano house was kind of o_O in a good way. The first two singles from this are still as awes as awes comes. But those are pretty the only three songs I can manage to give a damn about.

― The Reverend, Sunday, 3 February 2008 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

I liked the singles too!

― stephen, Sunday, 3 February 2008 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

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