Meaningless Grammy Awards

I'm unlikely to be very fond of the music that wins the Grammy, but I don't quite see what the beef is. I always liked award shows though. Its all part of showbiz innit?

I don't know how to measure integrity but telling people to stick something up their ass probably wouldn't be it.

Maybe you are right that the most brilliant records of the year are unknown - we'd probably disagree which ones... next you'll be suggesting the music business isn't a meritocracy.

Oh and Ned, not sure I follow your equation, one is a tautology and the other an oxymoron no?

They can work around this if they want to, though. Kid A and Paul Simon's 2000 album were both released after the deadline in 2000, and both were up for Best Album last year.

Or did I miss something again?

I like the Oscars (identically pointless, exactlly as flawed etc etc) much better though. I think most folks do, the Oscars are a big deal and the Grammys are a small deal and the smaller music awards (Brits, Mobos, etc) are even less of a deal.

Its not that I disagree with any of the absurdities posted above either, its just, I feel kinda... um, well... I mean obviously an award ceremony is a lot of bollocks, lets make it entertaining and fun and learn to live with the inherent problems.

(i realise that P.BOULEZ is here for conducting not composing, but i'd say he on his OWN matches and trumps yr triumphant jeer of RYAN ADAMS and STING)

Grammys trimming more than 30 categories.

Meghan Trainor is this year's best new artist
i love that literally no one cares; no grammy thread this year at all!

My twitter feed is full of people watching the Grammies, tho, some of them ILXors! Who knew?

the awards show is bad

I take it from the Twitter yelling that Taylor just beat Kendrick for AOTY?

I know ILM is probably going to pounce on the word "challenging" if ILM has any teeth left, but has a "challenging" record ever won the AOY grammy?

This year's Grammy winners: Ed Sheeran, Jimmy Carter, Lin Manuel Miranda, Antonio Sanchez, Arturo O'Farrill, Louis CK, Abby Washburn, Mavis Staples, The Fairfield Four, Cecile McLorin Salvant, Little Big Town, D'Angelo, Kendrick, Taylor, Ghost, Chris Stapleton, Lalah Hathaway, The Weeknd, Muse, Alabama Shakes, Snarky Puppy, Skrillex, Mark Ronson.

Natalia Lafourcade and Pitbull tied somehow, can you do that?

Joni Mitchell beating out four scholars for best liner notes; always an annoying category to see dilettantes score.

Meet your grammy winning remix of the year, spoiler it is not very good /spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWkwufz_L2M

kendrick wins every rap category he was nominated for and loses everything else
d'angelo wins every r&b category he was nominated for and loses everything else
we have an excellent pigeonhole for you right over here gentlemen

wanna say again now and forever: FUCK UPTOWN FUNK

I'm honestly a bit surprised that 1989 won. Usually the Grammy's are pretty allergic to any pop album with any sort of a pulse or synthesizers. Of course next year they'll probably give it to Adele.

This year's Grammy winners: Ed Sheeran

Why I pay no attention to this shit.

Was looking for Grammy thread earlier, wanted to confirm that it was Nathan East on bass during Lionel RIchie segment.

Was happy to see Clark Terry during the In Memoriam bit.

I know ILM is probably going to pounce on the word "challenging" if ILM has any teeth left, but has a "challenging" record ever won the AOY grammy?

As in, more challenging than Herbie Hancock's River? Probably not but I haven't heard all of the s/t Blood, Sweat, and Tears.

Is the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill considered challenging? It did manage to beat Madonna, Sheryl Crow, and Shania Twain that year, which I find rather surprising.

I had forgotten that, but maybe that was one time the grammys got it right.

I guess there are a few more good records on this list than I remembered, but there are still so many bad or forgettable ones:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Album_of_the_Year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf9V0hwJ6qk

I have two grammy nominations that my father got rid of. I keep the plaque in the bathroom and i have no idea where the medallion is

the winners seem less random than usual. popular stuff that critics are ok with. ed sheeran excepted.

skrillex is still around?

Yeah, I mean, there are always the questions of "challenging to whom?", "challenging how?", etc. Sgt Pepper probably challenged many listeners in 1967/68 (although it was hugely popular)? Also, I put on the BST while going to sleep last night. There's some cool stuff on it.

Is the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill considered challenging?

No.

lol just remembered that one time Arcade Fire won AOTY

Was happy to see Clark Terry during the In Memoriam bit.

― Have I The Right Profile? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:05 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fell asleep before this; glad to hear Terry got a mention.

Also, I put on the BST while going to sleep last night. There's some cool stuff on it.

Two fun facts about BS&T I recently learned:

- drummer Bobby Colomby produced the Jacksons' Destiny

- before settling on David Clatyton-Thomas as their singer, BS&T briefly considered Alex Chilton.

I don't usually pay attention to the Grammys but even I had to raise an eyebrow over Meghan Trainor winning Best New Artist.

Yeah, I mean, there are always the questions of "challenging to whom?", "challenging how?", etc. Sgt Pepper probably challenged many listeners in 1967/68 (although it was hugely popular)? Also, I put on the BST while going to sleep last night. There's some cool stuff on it.

― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 11:03 (3 hours ago) Permalink

Yeah I only meant relatively to the pool of albums that could be considered, not talking about Metal Machine Music or anything. It seems like it's rare that they even pick the most interesting of the nominees, and often the result is annointing an album that is destined to be forgotten and irrelevant in a decade.

the miguel bit with michael jackson's face above was bewildering.

I read that Taylor Swift is not the first woman to win Album of Year award twice. Lauryn Hill got a second one as producer of Supernatural as well.

the miguel bit with michael jackson's face above was bewildering.

just came here to voice my shock that Meghan Trainor won Best New Artist and my first exposure to her was in ILX rolling worst music of 2015 which he easily won for me. i know that duh it's the Grammys it has nothing to do with talent or good taste but just wow this is hilarious. lol music industry.

The other shock about Meghan Trainor winning Best New Artist was the fact that she was nominated for several Grammy's last year. What does "New" even mean anymore?

Miguel sang a song from Off The Wall and then talked about Spike Lee's new documentary about Off The Wall and about how MJ won his first Grammy for that album

the MJ and Lionel Richie tributes did seem kind of like they should've been dumped from the show since there were already 4 tribute performances for people who died in the past year.

no wait, not even 4, it was 5 (Bowie, Maurice, Lemmy, BB and Glenn)

x-post

It was Greg P accompanying Miguel. Just saw that Spike doc on Off the Wall with Greg in it

The Lionel Richie tribute was because of that separate Grammy related MusicCares award to him, I guess

Richie is being honored as the 2016 MusiCares Person of the Year in recognition of his significant creative accomplishments as well as his career-spanning charitable work, which has included support for an impressive range of causes over the years, ranging from AIDS and human rights to famine, poverty, human trafficking and women's issues. He is also a longtime contributor to the United Negro College Fund.

just caught kendrick's grammy performance; this guy is his generation's greatest talent.

what, no Chris Squire tribute!?

no i am xp

j/k it's kendrick

Wtf was up with that guitar during Adele's performance? I've never heard the original but I can't imagine that's the way it's supposed to sound.

i'm thinking grammy voters selected meghan trainor as best new artist in hopes that winning the category would curse her into irrelevance w/ all due swiftness

when i heard that song i thought it was a sub-sub-"Fridays" style novelty. like a bizarro Disney ride version of Nicki Minaj's "Anaconda", just this hollow robotic status quo friendly chimera mockery of a real, potent, and vital celebration of the physical. fuck the Grammys.

i heard it last in a N Georgia dept store that was like a bombed out Big Lots, living in a post-Obamalyptic wasteland with $10 yoga mats and discount plastic furniture

the flickering blown florescent lights complimented Trainor's song by inducing a sickening feeling. the music video was offensively over saturated.

‏@Adele
The piano mics fell on to the piano strings, that's what the guitar sound was. It made it sound out of tune. Shit happens. X

Oh sweetie, that's not the only thing that made it sound out of tune

imo a mic falling on piano strings is more of a hi-hat sound

wow that chorus is rough

Did the piano mics falling onto the strings make your passaggio tighten up and keep you from transitioning into your head voice on those higher notes, too?

Prepared piano! If I hadn't fallen asleep by that point, I woulda been freaking out about OMG ADELE IS PAYING TRIBUTE TO JOHN CAGE.

Seems to be a minor twitter kerfuffle over Natalie Cole not getting a full tribute. More Grammies than David Bowie! (lol)

yeah she could not hit the notes. unless she was relying on hearing the piano and the mics falling meant she couldn't for some reason. she sounded bad.

Listening back, yeah that was totally a mic bouncing around inside the piano, which I think distracted her and caused her to start pushing, which annihilated her pitch and started a vicious cycle that spiraled out of control as the song went on.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/699481347065311234

so that it's preserved for future generations, that tweet from the AP is "Taylor Swift wows in bitty top, bestie Selena in sexy blue"

oh man the bridge, no wonder she was about to cry

oh i didn't make it to the bridge the last time i watched it

this is a real car crash

So yeah, decided to check out the Adele performance. That was fucking painful.

I feel like a lot of you are not singers

singing, for someone with training and a musical ear who cares -- three things that describe Adele -- is a self-imposed feedback loop with a lot of variables to consciously or subconsciously control. you hear your voice come out either reassuringly and worryingly, and that relaxes you. this both physically puts all the moving parts where they need to be and psychologically allows you to continue to relax. it also allows you to think about everything else you've got to think about: emotion, resonance, whether the way you are singing is actually healthy (something I'm sure Adele is quite fixated on lately.)

however, this works the opposite way as well; if you start to flat you KNOW you start to flat, and everything kicks in reverse. it's also much, much harder for a lot of singers to find their way back to the original pitch than to just continue on the pitch they drifted onto; the difficulty multiplies with more and more singers. (certain keys, even, are notorious for this among choir directors -- F is one). it's a deadly spiral, and in this case recognizing that you're in a deadly spiral only makes it worse.

I feel like a lot of you are not singers

o rly

i've been singing for 24 years and that explanation is O_O to me

idk if you're gonna throw around words like "passaggio" (which does not mean what you think it means) it's fair

so you are saying passaggio DOESN'T refer to the transition point between registers of your voice AND telling me I am not a singer

okay

I mean not to say "if it's this way for me, it's this way for everybody", but I sure as hell wouldn't expect to keep a paid singing gig if I suddenly started to go flat and just shrugged and said "nothin to be done, i've already gone flat, don't know how to get out of it". any performer with their salt should be able to correct it because *it happens*.

xxpost oh my God

*gets opera glasses and popcorn*

katherine, DJP
I was wondering if after all these years you'd like to meet

also, you are going to take the exact point I was making in a compressed post and use two paragraphs to rewrite it, including the same critical phrase I used, yet I don't know what I am talking about

would you like for me to post a fucking performance resume for you before I'm allowed to have an opinion on someone's performance?

Listening back, yeah that was totally a mic bouncing around inside the piano, which I think distracted her and caused her to start pushing, which annihilated her pitch and started a vicious cycle that spiraled out of control as the song went on.

― its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tho this makes sense

passaggio refers to a transition point between vocal registers, but it's not a piece of anatomy that can "tighten up."

I did not literally mean "the body part called the passaggio", I meant "she was at a transition point, ie in her passaggio, and her voice was tightening up as she tried to muscle through it"

in context it sure didn't sound to me like he meant it as a piece of anatomy

xpost that's how it came across to me fwiw

DJP otm itt essentially

my point was that hearing piano/mic/key fuckery going on would naturally rattle someone who has cause to be not automatically assured about how her vocal performances will go -- especially on a song she's gone on record as pushing her vocal limits. re-listening to the performance, the first real bum note came after the sound essentially dropped out.

I am assuming that you did not read what I wrote here since you are saying THE EXACT SAME THING while saying that I know nothing about singing:

Listening back, yeah that was totally a mic bouncing around inside the piano, which I think distracted her and caused her to start pushing, which annihilated her pitch and started a vicious cycle that spiraled out of control as the song went on.

― its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and fwiw when I read the phrase "make your passaggio tighten up" it comes off to me, quite understandably(?) as "make your passaggio tighten up," so I'm not sure where this argument is coming from, particularly because I agree with you on parts of this! (and, also, have no idea who you, in particular, are besides three capital letters.)

bootyflakes

when old school posters don't recognize other old school posters

Meanwhile, backstage at American Idol...

well this was entertaining

at any rate I apologize for assuming things that weren't true; it's just not always the most common trait for a person on a message board -- even one about rock music! -- to hold

Paul McCartney refused entry to a Grammy after-party... uh...

http://www.tmz.com/2016/02/16/paul-mccartney-denied-beck-taylor-hawkins-video/

Tried watching the Kendrick Lamar performance. Still don't like the sound of his voice, and honestly the prison bit at the beginning reminded me of Elvis's Jailhouse Rock number more than anything else.

Katherine, DJP,

Aren't you practically neighbors?

Tried watching the Kendrick Lamar performance. Still don't like the sound of his voice, and honestly the prison bit at the beginning reminded me of Elvis's Jailhouse Rock number more than anything else.

― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:04 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

While I don't agree with this opinion, I lol'd pretty hard and appreciate your honesty

when old school posters don't recognize other old school posters

hey Wyatt Cenac was nominated for comedy album

Passaggio notes

the little big town song 'oh no it's not really about lesbianism' sucks and so do they

the eagles without glen frey were boring

I do not like that sam smith or that james bey or the other hairy guy who won something

they shoulda brought a mummified Glen on stage

B-b-but Jackson Browne!!!

If they were indeed singing live, they nailed it. Kudos.

The "Best Rock Album" award was deemed so inconsequential this year that it wasn't even shown as part of the broadcast.

I tell you this really was the year where i couldn’t escape that Bonnie Raitt song. It felt like it was everywhere!

I’m surprised Beyoncé lost AOTY yet again - given her massive popularity you’d think she get it by now, especially when she’s won more of those trophies than anyone else.

I’m surprised Beyoncé lost AOTY yet again - given her massive popularity you’d think she get it by now, especially when she’s won more of those trophies than anyone else.

Oop sorry for the double post. Also I honestly have never heard that Raitt song outside of the show I attended at the Beacon. Had no idea it was a hit at all.

The video awards have me bookmarking Rosalia's TikTok Live video and Neil Young's A Band A Brotherhood A Barn, directed by Darryl Hannah (both on YouTube).

I'm shocked you haven't heard that Raitt song. All summer long it was booming from jeeps, playing at every shoe store, the closer at every club...

The 50 years of hip-hop medley was fun but weird to have Scarface but no Willie D, Rakim but no Eric B.

Scarface is a record exec and Rakim is a much in demand touring artist. feels like hip hop is going to be sorely tested with the haves and the have nots during the anniversary wrt who gets bookings.

50th hiphop thing was fun but also no Doug E Fresh & Slick Rick, no Nas, no Snoop

all strictly Roots

lol

I'm a Bonnie Raitt fan in general but that song is some treacle, jeez. But there were so many big-name contenders in that category I guess she benefited from there not being an obvious pop fave, which meant the Boomer nostalgia votes were enough to win.

So many Grammy voters are lazy boomers. Best new artist Samara Joy is a 23 year old jazz singer with skills . But her Verve album has her doing covers of “Misty” and “Someone to Watch Over Me” which Grammy voters like, but really do we need more generic covers of those tunes

Lizzo did a better job looking surprised than Harry Styles did

https://www.complex.com/music/chris-brown-rips-robert-glasper-winning-best-r-and-b-album-grammy?fbclid=IwAR3Xv9pkqhJhtkA0J1Xp6EFzWt3HxYxh_i6PRe4Y-1-CbiNs89l-NKsqJ0k&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Chris Brown going after Robert Glasper

few musical artists have been so resolutely, determinedly unlikeable as Chris Brown

the hip hop thing was mostly awesome but the jump from the lox to lil baby was very abrupt

It needed a movie intertitle: "30 Years Later ..."

https://i.ibb.co/fHNTW6h/FB-IMG-1675706746846.jpg

Took a while to find this clip:

50-year anniversary of hip-hop performance at the #GRAMMYs by some of the greats including RunDMC, LL Cool J, Salt N Peppa, Ice T, Queen Latifah, Wu-Tang, Big Boi, Busta Rhymes, Missy Elliott, Nelly, Too Short, GloRilla, The Roots, and more... pic.twitter.com/HmGB0bvGZX

— Leon Carrington (@LeonCarrington) February 6, 2023

okay, "unknown blues singer" is just mean

I feel like it was a dumb copyeditor, it is the Mail after all

okay, i hadn't seen the performance yet and it's good
lots of omissions and i think future generations will be confused by some of the closers but yeah

Thanks, Josh!

lol

It's not surprising to see a satanic ritual at the Grammy's. Satanism is the worship of the self. Much of modern pop music is satanic in this sense. Leftism is satanism. The only change is that now they're being more explicit about it.

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) February 6, 2023

god i love satan

can we create i love satan borad

great, here comes the new "ok groomer"

Ok, demon

— Antisocial Heffer 💭 (@Flipflopcroc) February 6, 2023

questlove did some 'splainin' about the hip-hop 50 performance:

general ?s answered about last night: (some are asking if we are playing erasure games so uh....yeah I don't play that so---in answering the questions of "why wasn't dada there?)

1. already booked
2. declined our offer straight up
3. or a third option im not gonna get into

— Dr. Love (@questlove) February 6, 2023

I just watched the first half of that performance on YouTube and was amazed by how emotionally affected I was by it. I felt like one of those old people you see sitting immobile and silent in the nursing home, and then someone puts on music from when they were a teenager and they start shaking and weeping in their wheelchair. I mean, I listened to so much rap between ~1983 and ~1994 that it was a kind of sensory overload, sucking me straight back to my teenage years in a time tunnel.

Edgar Winter received a Grammy Award nomination for Best Contemporary Blues Album after releasing Brother Johnny in 2022. Why is one nomination such an interesting story leading up to the award show on Sunday, Feb. 5?

It’s because Winter hasn’t been nominated in half of a century, and the album that got him back in the conversation is a heartfelt tribute to his late brother.

https://wmgk.com/2023/01/12/emotional-story-edgar-winter-grammy-nomination/

He's 76.

Edgar Winter won that Grammy

I really enjoyed the hip-hop tribute — snippets of so many bangers, and it was fun to see everybody. I also liked Jay-Z's long-ass verse on "God Did" even though DJ Khaled's virtues continue to elude me.

you must be new here, he the best, man

I hear that a lot, from him mostly.

hip-hop medley was well done, and better than i would've expected. i was impressed by how many people they *got* as opposed to bummed about omissions. i figured there were good reason for the obvious ones. it's not like Quest is booking Rakim but passing on Eric B.

what do we think the #3 is in his tweet up there? beefs or something?

for those who didn't click thru, Questlove explains a lot more and answers questions in that thread. stuff like acting kept a lot of people away, two rappers bailed at the last second, hard to do duos because you only get so many bars, etc. interesting stuff.

I guess the hip hop medley isn't up on Youtube for real yet? I only happened on it right before Queen Latifah came out, the only YT version I can find sounds like it was recorded off a TV through a tin can.

The most glaring absence to me was KRS-One. Who knows what happened there.

xp See Josh's tweet embed above. that's the cleanest I've come across. The sound of the entire broadcast was absolutely terrible fwiw!

Quest in that thread is talking about some "2 hour August taping". Looking forward to that.

All awards shows these days seem to have awful, hollow-sounding audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg_Ql89fWy4

This was the best version I heard and it still sounds like shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OS3n8w8dGI

classic legacy media stupidity - the one buzzworthy moment from the telecast is now impossible to find anywhere

for those who didn't click thru, Questlove explains a lot more and answers questions in that thread. stuff like acting kept a lot of people away, two rappers bailed at the last second, hard to do duos because you only get so many bars, etc. interesting stuff.

― alpine static, Monday, February 6, 2023 10:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

This article mentions Will Smith:

Smith — who has hardly appeared onstage, let alone on live TV, since slapping Chris Rock at the Academy Awards — had planned to be there, too. “Will Smith was all of 99.4 percent in,” Questlove said, but the actor was due on set for “Bad Boys 4.” The drummer had suggested that Smith take it all the way back to DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince’s “Brand New Funk.”

Also says a bit more about the August show Questlove references:

On the telecast, LL Cool J got ahead of those criticisms from the outset. “We wish we could have included every single hip-hop artist from 1973 to 2023 — I know, I know, I know,” he cautioned. (Harvey Mason Jr., the chief executive of the Recording Academy, said in an interview that a “full two-hour celebration” of hip-hop, hosted by the Grammys, was being planned for August.)

why not make it six hours

every Wu-Tang member gets his own bit

Managed to watch the hip-hop tribute with my son (who absolutely loved it!) via a decent video last night, but went to watch it again with my wife and it has been pulled. Baffling that they are going to such lengths to keep it from going viral.

30 minute segment devoted to Hyphy

Just noticed Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot actually won two Grammys for best historical album and best liner notes with Tweedy being one of three recipients of the former, the others being the reissue producer Cheryl Pawelski and the mastering engineer Bob Ludwig. I actually remember when Chicago area critics/writers grumbled when the album didn't get any nominations (and IIRC Tweedy even addressed it at his next show when he named several nominees in "Heavy Metal Drummer," adding "I'm not bitter!") so it's kind of a nice consolation to get one twenty years later.

And that liner notes Grammy is Bob Mehr's second - he won one for the Dead Man's Pop but he accepted it via Zoom due to the pandemic. Nice to see him on the red carpet than going up on stage to accept his award.

the transition from scarface (so glad to see him up and about!) to ice-t in the break room to Latifah doing UNITY was genuinely thrilling

I actually remember when Chicago area critics/writers grumbled when the album didn't get any nominations so it's kind of a nice consolation stupid and very Grammy like to get one twenty years later

LOL yeah, par for the course I guess.

I'm not even the biggest Yankee Hotel Foxtrot fan on ILX (not a high bar) but here's what they nominated for album of the year that year, as a reminder:

Come Away with Me - Norah Jones
The Eminem Show - Eminem
Home - Dixie Chicks
Nellyville - Nelly
The Rising - Bruce Springsteen

Eminem's has a few great cuts and Springsteen's is half good, but pretty disappointing. It wasn't a bad year either, there's a lot I still listen to from 2002 - The Roots, Missy Elliott, Spoon, Sleater-Kinney, Sonic Youth, Drive-By Truckers, the Mekons, the Flaming Lips, Beck, Wilco, etc.

lol I just realized that Donda was nominated for aoty last year

Official video for the hip-hop anniversary segment is up:

https://www.grammy.com/videos/ll-cool-j-run-dmc-chuck-d-flavor-flav-dj-jazzy-jeff-grandmaster-flash-2023-grammys-65th-grammy-awards-watch-hip-hop-50-tribute-performance-live

2025 Grammy Awards start at 8 pm US eastern time on tv network CBS. There will likely be much to complain about. I haven't even looked at who was nominated, and who wasn't ; or what categories they got rid of recently

Congrats to the Beatles on their big win

plucky underdogs from liverpool

I'm completely detached from Grammys like I never am with Oscars.

a vulture.com writer back in November grumbled about some nominations and omissions--

Jacob Collier is back, baby.
Of the bizarre 2021 Grammys slate, Jacob Collier’s AOTY nom for Djesse Vol. 3 seemed like the most shocking: Collier’s project had never even charted on the “Billboard 200.” Turns out, it wasn’t a fluke. Collier is up for the same award, with Djesse Vol. 4, the final installment in his cerebral series. He also earned a nod in the arrangement categories for the sixth straight year. Call him your favorite musician’s favorite musician.

...Andre 3000 jazz flute album got an album of the year nomination plus a few more

Shaboozey’s runaway hit, “A Bar Song (Tipsy),” was somehow snubbed in Record of the Year, usually the category that most reflects the charts. Yet the track still got some general-category love in Song of the Year,

Exactly zero of the acts up for Best Rock Performance, Best Rock Song, or Best Rock Album are first-time nominees. Yet again, rock voters are sticking to what they’re familiar with: Pearl Jam, Green Day, the Black Keys, St. Vincent, and, of course, the Beatles and the Stones. Congrats to the Black Crowes on their first nomination since 1991, I guess?

https://www.vulture.com/article/grammy-nominations-2025-snubs-and-surprises.html

Nick Cave and Kim Gordon got their first ever nominations -both in Best Alternative Music Performance and Album

Were the Grammys on?

also discussion here

rock performance: the beatles
rock album: the rolling stones

Performances in general have been good, inventive arrangements and productions. Sabrina Carpenter, Doechii, Chappell Roan all very good. Roan won best new artist as she should have (as opposed to Carpenter, who was somehow nominated for it for her sixth album — but Carpenter won pop vocal album, so she's still happy). It will be kinda funny if Beyonce gets blanked for album of the year again while winning country album.

lol "Not Like Us" winning Record of the Year, quite a journey for that song.

very funny to hear the "A minor" line in the background as Kendrick stepped up to the stage

And a week from now I assume we'll hear at least some of it in the halftime show.

Just walked in to see Not Like Us win, having not known any nominations — also v amused at him timing the walk to get “A minorrrr” as fanfare

I guess Drake has to sue the Grammys now too.

Most Grammy voters are bots

It gets Song of the Year too. Plus the hip-hop awards it won earlier.

Jay-Z's shaming the Grammys about never giving Beyonce album of the year worked!

glad she can finally put that nightmare behind her

Rare W for the super-rich.

I got pulled away.

ranked performances:

1. Doechii "Catfish" "Denial Is a River"
2. Chappell Roan "Pink Pony Club"
3. Sabrina Carpenter "Espresso" "Please Please Please"
4. Charli XCX "Von Dutch" "Guess"
5. The Weeknd Playboi Carti "Cry for Me" "Timeless"

Worst had to be Chris Martin and who are Khruangbin?

I like Khruangbin who have recently started reaching a larger audience after lots of touring. Yes to Doechi, NPR's Ann Powers is hailing Doechi and Sabrina as" the dynamism of Gen Z."

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/03/nx-s1-5285269/gen-z-stars-conquer-grammys-sabrina-carpenter-chappell-roan