Is there any kind of backstory to the Gene Simmons reference here? Is Thurston taking a swipe at him, or is he paying homage to him and Madonna ("ciccone")? And what is that Kiss sample that they use? It sounds like a slowed down version of "Strutter" ("I know [a thing or two about her]", but that's a Paul Stanley tune.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― autovac (autovac), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Monday, 25 April 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
CHICHICHI-CHI-CONEY
That B-side is also excellent as well.
I can't believe this didn't end up as bonus tracks on the Sister DGC reissue..
― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 25 April 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 25 April 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)
When it came out, I was an absolute SY fanatic and unemployed. I got the bus uptown the day it was due in the shops, and spent six pounds of the thirty six pound benefit cheque that I had to exist on for the following two weeks on this one piece of vinyl. Just imagine my reaction when I got it back home and stuck it on the turntable. Cheers, guys!
― Soukesian, Monday, 25 April 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)
― space2k (space2k), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
But what is U&K is the question about the KISS sample. I always thought the sample was the "She's looking good" loop. So I was wrong? Which song is it from?
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)
Ben Weasel hates measeles, mumps and rubella..
Master dik is a crap song.
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)
― Soukesian, Monday, 25 April 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)
― Failin Huxley (noodle vague), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)
Contractual obligation. You're all kidding yourselves.
― Soukesian, Monday, 25 April 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)
― Failin Huxley (noodle vague), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)
---
Yeah, there's that loop, and also the "I KNOW...", both from the version of "Strutter" on 'Kiss Alive'.
― jwd, Monday, 25 April 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)
― hjk, Monday, 25 April 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)
Sundar, there's a section at the end of 'Under the Influence of the Jesus & Mary Chain' (or is it actually called 'All-Star Jam'... can't check, I sold it in 1989) which according to Google goes like this:
[Lee:] Yo Sun Ra - let's do pipeline![Thurston:] We got Sun Ra in the studio today ladies and gentlemen. He's gonna play guitar, he's gonna sing a song, it's called 'pipeline/killtime', and if you can deal with that...Okay hey Max Roach is here, alright. Man we got an all star jam. Get down. Okay. This is great![Lee:] Holy shit it's Sonny Sharrock[Thurston:] Alright![Lee:] Hey Sonny! George Benson Ladies and Gentlemen! George Benson![Thurston:] Yeah hello, Hello. "Down Broadway... I'm going down Broadway"
So basically, it's a rock band goof-off skit. Actually a whole chunk of the record is all skit and no rock, maybe this is another aspect of their homage to hip-hop?
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)
No, that's not right at all. Daydream Nation and the singles off that were the last SY records on Blast First. And there's NO WAY that that was a "contractual obligation job". Think I'm right in saying that SY had a great relationship with Blast First and don't think they left the label under any sort of acrimony. However, it was indeed their last release on SST, and everyone seems to be down on the Ginnster and his business methods, so you might actually be closer to the truth there.
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)
That true, it was £1.99 in the UK, and if someone did really spend six quid on it, no wonder they're pissed off.
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)
Shit is actually pretty awesome. The mouth noises on "Funky Fresh" go through my head every now and again.
― Derek Erdman (Donkey King), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)
If you find this as a gatefold LP, it's a bootleg.
When it came out, I was an absolute SY fanatic and unemployed. I got the bus uptown the day it was due in the shops, and spent six pounds of the thirty six pound benefit cheque that I had to exist on for the following two weeks on this one piece of vinyl. Just imagine my reaction when I got it back home and stuck it on the turntable.
Not to rub it in, but it does say on right on the jacket "Do not pay more than 2.15" pounds for it.
I was severely confused by the failure of the tracks to match the running times listed.
They do match up. The B-side is 11-minutes or whatever, and the times listed on the record tells you when, during that duration of time, the song ends/next short piece starts. Only "Our Backyard" has its own running time.
Think I'm right in saying that SY had a great relationship with Blast First and don't think they left the label under any sort of acrimony.
Having re-read some of Our Band Could Be Your Life this weekend, I can tell you they were super-pissed at Blast First for The Walls Have Ears (done without their permission), and left for Geffen upset at the way Daydream Nation was handled in the US.
I like the 12" version better than the one Sister version. "Ready to assist you, Pee-wee!"
― Vic Funk, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)
Hard to believe this was once my favorite band!
However, my Lee Renaldo From Here To Infinity cassette (defeating the purpose of "lock grooves" is still in great shape! But, that's because I basically never listened to it.
I plan to get the essentials on CD. What am I missing?:
Sonic Youth s/tConfusion Is SexSisterDaydream NationGooEvol - (not sure if I care enough)Sonic Death - (not sure if I care enough or if it's even available)
I haven't been really paying attention since around '94, so what else is essential?
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
Hardly a patch on the Bonzos' "The Intro and the Outro" methinks
― Pradaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
Moo12 tracks of alternate studio versions for the album "Goo". Produced by J. Mascis.
In The Fishtank - someone compared this to Sonic Death, but by the description (jazz) it doesn't seem like an appropriate comparison.
And then this just has to be interesting:http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007ZSH4Y.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpgString Quartet Tribute to Sonic Youth:1. Silver Rocket 2. Theresa's Sound World 3. Kool Thing 4. Candle 5. Wish Fulfillment 6. Unmade Bed 7. Superstar 8. Hoarfrost 9. Shadow of a Doubt 10. Little Trouble Girl
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)
I liked the 12" when it came out, but I don't think I would now. Royal Tuff Titty indeed.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
doh-xpost
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)
Finally proof they are psychedelic hippies!
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)
― Plasterface Zone diet, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)
Not v "let's forget", man
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)
also, that string quartet tribute looks awesome! maybe the only one of those i'd ever consider buying. great tracklist (although "superstar" wtf)
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
boooooo. the s/t is different but it's still very good and not all that different from confusion is sex except more melodic and less noisy. i have the sst cassette version and it has all the songs on side 1 and then side 2 is side 1 played backwards!
― Amon (eman), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)
that is a great idea and I bet it actually sounds cool, too, given the sounds on that album, anyway!
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
i like how young they sound on it, and that one song where kim hisses "sssshit... fucking youth.... working youth"
― Amon (eman), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
I've just dug my copy out and by criminy I understand what you mean now. This has confused me for what, 15/16 years?
― Failin Huxley (noodle vague), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)
I wish the Sonic Death CD was broken up, instead of just 2 long tracks.
― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)
...
*imagine four pics, by Peter Anderson, of Sonic Youth doing funny poses in front of a large swirl in the corner of a white room on each of the four corners of one side of the inner sleeve, with the text forming a cross in the middle / the other side is just one big pic of Sonic Youth in one of the four pics but blown up the size of the sleeve*
MAXIMUM ROCKNROLL - NOVEMBER '87
Gentle Readers of Maximum Rock-N-Roll,
OK folks, I have been noticing a big problem is today's alternative music and it's pissing me the fuck off. No, it's not high ticket prices, violence, meat eating or any of that good stuff. I don't even know what to call it so instead I'll get to my point and explain it.
I write record reviews for a Chicago 'zine called Non-Stop Banter. It's a well put together mag but the type who's staff consists mainly of 20-30 year old ex-punks who now detest hardcore. (I don't care. I enjoy reviewing punk/hardcore/ alternative stuff although the main reason I do it is for free records. ) So it's fine with me if they don't dig punk cause I don't give a flying turtle fuck what kind of music they listen to until they start knocking hardcore in favor of total bullshit music. Hell, yes I'll name names, I'm talking about GREEN RIVER, HUSKER DU, THE REPLACEMENTS, R.E.M., SONIC YOUTH and countless others. These writers, critics and even the musicians themselves turn their noses up at punk, yet listen to stuff that either used to be loud, aggressive and meaningful and turned into lame, mindless word-spuel or else shit that is basically LED ZEPPELIN and C.C.R. rip-offs. C'mon, you know what I'm talkin' about, right? "Barren lands and barren minds/ In another place and time/ I feel I've never known myself/ Frozen in the sand again." Hmmm. JOURNEY? YES? RUSH??? No - it's another classic fucking piece of musicianship by our friends HUSKER DU!!!
Yep, it's the big thing now for halfway decent bands to regress back to the shittiest music ever created by man and call it "progression." This crap is to the eighties what disco was to the seventies and all you college artsy dorks can whine all you want but Bob Mould is a fat old man, a sell out and a joke (and he sure ain't the only one in so-called alternative music. )
Now let's take a somewhat objective look at the labels that dish this horseshit out. SST, what the fuck, when was the last time this grandpa-assed label put out a good record? It's like in order to get on SST records, you have to 1. Be really boring and pretentious 2. Hate hardcore and 3. Look like my dad.
Check this shit: "Like four men running on empty, Das Damen breathe fumes and spark combustion like a four wheel sex machine." (An actual SST ad.) Yeah, and DONNA SUMMER's riding shotgun, right? Fuck, I think LAWRENCE WELK could "blast my concept" more than these geeks. Then you've got HOMESTEAD with NICK CAVE & SONIC YOUTH (though I guess they're on SST now) who like to sing about shit that no-one understands. But there are a hell of a lot of people who pretend they do, thus making themselves feel hip while stuffing greenbacks into the pockets of the aforementioned "artists."
Now there's a word: "artist." Yes, LYDIA LUNCH, DIAMANDA GALAS & SONIC YOUTH are all artists and you and me just ain't cool enough to be diggin' their scene. I'm real fuckin' sorry, but LYDIA LUNCH getting fucked by a .357 magnum is not my idea of art. It is, however, my idea of a brilliant marketing scam. I'ts [sic] the old "Emperor has no clothes" deal. These bands and labels are full of shit but appear to be so cool and happening and with it that nobody has the balls to tell them they suck.
But let's put it where it's at. While D.R.I. & 7 SECONDS may very well be the BON JOVI & U2 of the 90's, SONIC YOUTH & HUSKER DU will be the YES & REO SPEEDWAGON. BLEEAACCHH!!!
Sure, punk has its problems - JELLO BIAFRA on MTV, Kevin Seconds and his outrageously priced shows and D.R.I. crossing over to idiocy or the big one (if I may sidetrack for a moment), "We have a right to make money off our music." I hate to have to be the one to tell these bands the score, but gimme a fuckin' break. Punk is noisy, loud, obnoxious grunge & nobody has a right (morally speaking) to make money off it. Why do bands want such high guarantees at shows? "Well, we need money to live, man." Oh and I suppose getting a fucking job would be out of the question, right? Hey, Tim Yo could probably live very comfortably on the profits of MRR but instead he puts it where it will do some good and works for his lunch. (Not implying he doesn't bust ass on the 'zine) Man, if Tim can make enough $$$ at his job to buy a yacht or a mansion in Paris, I say cool. But when you're faced with the possibility of making a decent living off your 'zine or band or whatever, I don't care who the fuck you are, you're going to end up caring more about the dough than the quality of your 'zine or music. Just look at ROLLING STONE or SUICIDAL TENDENCIES on and on and on. I think Tim realizes that and that's why he keeps the two seperate [sic]. Too bad more folks can't follow that example.
So anyway, I kinda drifted away from my point there, which is that although punk is fucked up, I honestly believe there is enough integrity in the scene to overcome such bullshit. But bands, labels and critics of the new "elitist" postpunk garbage are going nowhere fast. They constantly slag punk and its listeners so why the fuck do you support them? They think you suck so my suggestion is to stop putting your money into the pockets of those "artists" that snub you and save it for sea monkeys, pop-tarts, and silly string. Your money will be well spent and you'll have more fun. By the way, to all the bands, labels and people I forgot to mention in this letter, I'm sorry, a big, hearty "fuck you" goes out to you also and I mean that from the bottom of my immature, little hardcore heart. Bye,
Ben Weasel c/o Weasel Crue Headquarters/P.O. Box 37/Prospect Hts. IL 60070-0037
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)
― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)
― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)
But, wow, I never had the patience to read a full issue of Maximum Rock 'N Roll in the 90s, and even in the post-Timyo years, much less the 80s issues... but the level of Tim Yo worship amongst the staff -- based on this piece -- is something slightly less fundamentalist than the Jim Jones cult!
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)
― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)
― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)
I can't imagine the DKs ever having studio videos shown on 120 minutes.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)
----fuck, that bit is so so great, thanks Donut. Thurston came in to the store I worked at once on tour, saw a new Screeching Weasel Lp on the display and cracked up, he had no idea they were still going
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 5 May 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)
― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 5 May 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)
― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Thursday, 5 May 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)
― Amon (eman), Thursday, 5 May 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)
-- A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (showroo...) (webmail), May 5th, 2005 5:08 PM. (ex machina) (link)
― Andre Dawson (deangulberry), Thursday, 5 May 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 5 May 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)
― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Thursday, 5 May 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)
I see a word here that BW may have come to regret later.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)
Y'know, all this talk makes feel like going out and buying the entire Screeching Weasel back catalogue. You kids like Yes? I mean REALLY?
― Soukesian, Monday, 27 June 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― Another Allnighter (sexyDancer), Monday, 27 June 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)