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Thought is best to start an individual thread, as the Reissues thread is way long and should be kept on that topic really.

So, a quick update and a couple of wee questions.

So far...

Meathook - Marquee 79
AM/In Your House (early) - Birmingham 79
10:15 Sat Night - Paris 80
Another Day - Stockholm 80
Primary (yellow) - Rennes 80
I'm Cold - Rennes 80
Do You Wanna Touch? - Rennes 80 or unspecified 85
Fire In Cairo - Werchter 81
The Holy Hour - Werchter 81
Charlotte Sometimes (early version) - Sydney 81
Forever - Sydney 81
A Short Term Effect - Paris 82 or Glasgow 82
Pornography - Paris 82
Lament - Elephant Fayre 83
Bananafishbones - s'Hertogenbosch 84
Bird Mad Girl - s'Hertogenbosch 84
Secrets - Washington 84
Happy The Man - Washington 84
Caterpillar - Washington 84
Wailing Wall - Washington 84
The Hanging Garden - Ludwigshafen 85
Screw - Ludwigshafen 85
The Baby Screams - Camden Palace 85
A Night Like This - Camden Palace 85 or Glastonbury 86
Push - Glastonbury 86
The Blood - Houston 86
Torture - Birmingham 87
A Japanese Dream - Birmingham 87
Snakepit - Birmingham 87

This is where I'm up to in the mastering, should take me another week or so to do 87-04, I've been really geeked out on Cure, but it's enjoyable.

So, any more KM-KM-KM era? Catch/Like Cockatoos/If Tonight.../Why Can't I Be You/Hot Hot Hot/Just Like Heaven??

I've been leaning heavily on The Top era and Head On The Door mainly because these aren't really represented much in the live albums (plus they sound so great, The Blood for instance is just fantastic) which means I'm not too sure which Disintegration and Wish tracks to go for because these are featured heavily on Show/Entreat obv.

Also, I was planning to crossfade the tracks to make it sound almost seamless like any live album, anyone have a reason not to do this, apart from I-Pod grumbles?

It's going to be 4 CD's I think, a box set, Yo!

Any suggestions welcome.

― mzui (mzui), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

Er...keep doing what you're doing as I trust your judgment? :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 14 May 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

I'm rather excited about this.

Any news mzui?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 26 May 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

Indeed, I'll have the finished tracklist done for the weekend or early next week, and once I do (a kind hearted ILX'r) will be getting the artwork together and I'll get it printed up and then we will be good to go.

Found a CD of a drunken Cure around a hotel piano playing silly versions of some songs but the quality is a bit meh, I might put one track in somewhere as a hidden bonus.

― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 26 May 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Argh, I had such high hopes of getting a finished tracklist up on ILM before I go on holiday.

Ah well then, apologies all round, I'll be back at work in 10 days or so then I promise I'll put a lid on this soon after.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

you are still a golden god!

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Yes yes! :-) I await happily, including the drunk performance or even a bit of one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

You are so awesome.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Righty-Ho,

This week is hopefully when I finally finish the masters.

I'm nearly done with the tracklist, been waiting for a few upgrades of certain shows which I've managed to get and am really happy with the quality, only the first 26 mins of CD1 is sourced from my tapes and even though it's bootleg quality, I guarantee it's never as bad as Heroin Face!

So, as a taster here is the final, final track list for CD1.

1. Meathook - London 79
2. A.M./In Your House (early version) - Birmingham 79
3. 10:15 Sat Night - Paris 80
4. Another Day - Stockholm 80
5. Primary (yellow/cold colours version) - Rennes 80
6. I'm Cold - Rennes 80
7. Plastic Passion - Amsterdam 80
8. Jumping Someone Else's/Another Journey By Train - Amsterdam 80
9. Fire In Cairo - Werchter 81
10. The Holy Hour - Sydney 81
11. Charlotte Sometimes (early version) - Sydney 81
12. Forever - Sydney 81
13. A Short Term Effect - Paris 82
14. Cold - Paris 82
15. Pornography - Paris 82
16. Lament - Elephant Fayre 83
17. Bananafishbones - s'Hertogenbosch 84
18. Bird Mad Girl - s'Hertogenbosch 84
19. Secrets - Washington 84

Stay tuned for CD's 2/3/4.

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

This just looks ridiculously good already. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 June 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

Indeed! it's going to be very cool, CD2 will be done tomorrow.

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 20 June 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I really enjoy that whole Washington 84 show. Don't know where I got it, but I am always pleased when it comes up in the shuffle.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 20 June 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit. You are the greatest human being on the planet.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 June 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

It's a great gig alright, the 84 Cure lineup is aces, Vince Ely and Andy Anderson are very underrated.

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 20 June 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

how did i miss this before???

it looks absolutely awesome.

how do i get me one? goddamn.

ummm, how are you on "the kiss" tour? I've barely heard any kmkmkm stuff live, but i bet a load of it is phenomenal, especially when amped up in arena/stadium venues.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 20 June 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

That reminds me, I am still looking for a sponsor I think to burn me a set after the initial dispersal to the lucky (I think that is how it was going to work). I'll obv reimburse shipping and whatnot. Just shoot me an email if you are one of the lucky early getters. Thx.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 20 June 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

At the moment there are 4 tracks from KMKMKM lined up:

Fight
Torture
A Japanese Dream
Snakepit

I have been thinking about putting more in, 'Like Cockatoos' or 'If Tonight...' fr'instance.

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 20 June 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

Put me on for a copy of these, too, please! They look fantastic!

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 20 June 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, if you've got a nice version of "Like Cockatoos"...!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 June 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

Heheheh. Wouldn't it be nice.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 June 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes! And another tiny fist in the air in favor of Cuckatoos. It could maybe replace Fight? but, hey, it's yr party...

Maybe we can set up relays for further copies? I'll gladly take care of EU folks.

― Die Emanzipation von Baaderonixx (redukt) (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)

Here is the final, final tracklist for CD2.

Disc 2.

1. The Walk - Washington 84
2. The Wailing Wall - Washington 84
3. Happy The Man - Washington 84
4. Caterpillar - Washington 84
5. The Hanging Garden - Ludwigshafen 85
6. Screw - Ludwigshafen 85
7. The Baby Screams - London Camden Palace 85
8. A Night Like This - Glastonbury 86
9. Push - Glastonbury 86
10. A Forest - Glastonbury 86
11. Sinking - Glastonbury 86
12. The Blood - Houston 86
13. Torture - Birmingham 87
14. A Japanese Dream - Birmingham 87
15. Like Cockatoos - Santa Barbara 87
16. How Beautiful You Are - Santa Barbara 87
17. The Perfect Girl - Santa Barbara 87
18. Why Can't I Be You? - Santa Barbara 87
19. It's Not You (acoustic) - Bordeaux 89

I ditched Snakepit cause it's really quite a dull (and long) song live, so apologies to any Snakepit fans.

The Glasto 86 tracks are something else, very atmospheric and the
version of The Hanging Garden is awesomely tribal, can't wait for
you all to hear them.

Next is the Disintegration/Wish era which as we all know is quite well represented by live albums, any thoughts welcome as always.

Disc 3 up next week, after Glasto.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

I ditched Snakepit cause it's really quite a dull (and long) song live, so apologies to any Snakepit fans.

*sniffles*

That aside, ay-yi-yi this looks astoundingly great.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

YAY COCKATOOS

for 89-92 stuff just try and pick versions that are the least similar to the released live versions? interesting variations or jams or tags or fuckups?

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Wow!! These look great!! How do I get one?

― Pete Baumann, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

Pete, they are initially being sent out to 14 or so (I forget) people who dibbed them a while ago, a few kind souls are willing to send them on.
Stay tuned, I still have to pester Josh for artwork and get the printing happening so it'll be a little while yet before posting.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

I still want in on this via any means. One of the lucky 14 can email me and let me know anything I need to do. This looks amazing.

― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Thanks mzui!

Hopefully I can trick someone into copying them for me!!

― pete baumann, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

I sent you a sample cover design a couple of weeks ago! I'll re-send, maybe it got caught in a spam filter or something. I need to stop mentioning viagra bestiality in my subject lines.

― Petroski (petroski), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Holy spam, it's been ages, but the finishing line is in sight.

Tracklists for CD's 3 & 4 coming very soon!

― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 21 July 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

In the next day or two that is.

― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 21 July 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

That day or two having now passed.... ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

Oh heck, yes

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

Yes, yes indeed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 August 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

It's nearly done Ned honest, I'm waiting for a Curiosa show from last year that's supposed to be brilliant for those last few tracks...!

― mzui (mzui), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Rah! But but but could you post the tracklisting from number three if that's settled?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Okay then, I'll post CD3 tomorrow (files are at work) just for you Ned
:)

― mzui (mzui), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

*merry* Thanks!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Okay folks, I'm waiting for one last item (a video of The Cure Play Out) from E-Bay and then we will be ready to duplicate and get the artwork finalised. I will be contacting all you peeps by email at the end of next week. Just thought I'd better post cause it's been ages and I apologise.

― mzui (mzui), Saturday, 13 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

No worries! Rah!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 August 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm trying desperately to locate some lossless versions of the new 3 piece Cure live stuff but it's proving mightily elusive inna non-mp3 state.

― mzui (mzui), Saturday, 13 August 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

I kiss you.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Saturday, 13 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Shouldn't that be "I kiss you kiss you kiss you"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 August 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

OH OH Oh, oh please contact me by email
I could relay some copies if need be...

― kephm (kephm), Sunday, 14 August 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

Pete, they are initially being sent out to 14 or so (I forget) people who dibbed them a while ago, a few kind souls are willing to send them on.

ok, missed this bit, i am officially looking for a kind soul to send one on to me.

― kephm (kephm), Sunday, 14 August 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

whoot whoot!

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 14 August 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

did I dib? oh lordy, i hope i dibbed.

if not, i rely on the largess of ilm to provide me with the necessary succour...

:-)

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 14 August 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah! I'm torrenting a Cure 2005 show, I pray that the sucker is good enough quality. That will bring me bang up to date, I'll be posting a final list of peeps and mailing you all tomorrow (fri) to get posting info.

― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

:-D (I'll be away from the Net for a couple of days starting tomorrow afternoon but I'll get a hold of you as soon as I can.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

everything except the two Launch tracks has been four-piece though, hasn't it?

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 19 August 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

With Porl, yes indeed.

Got it this morning, it's not bad quality at-all, here is the tracklist.

CD1 :

1/Plainsong
2/Open
3/Fascination street
4/Alt.end
5/The blood
6/Shake dog shake
7/A night like this
8/The end of the world
9/Push
10/Just like heaven
11/A letter to elise
12/Lullaby
13/Never enough
14/Us or them
15/From the edge of the deep green sea
16/Signal to noise

CD2 :

17/The baby screams
18/One hundred years
19/End
20/Disintegration
21/At night
22/M
23/Play for today
24/A forest
25/Primary
26/Boys don't cry
27/10:15 saturday night

― mzui (mzui), Friday, 19 August 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)

slightly off-topic, but has anyone managed a successful bootleg of "The Blood" and Justin Timberlake's "Like I Love You"?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 19 August 2005 06:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm psyched to see that they're playing Primary again. Never worked with a 5-piece IMHO, so I'm intrigued to hear how it sounds now.

― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Friday, 19 August 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

"The Baby Screams"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That totally makes up for yet another round of "Push"!

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, let's have that one on the set.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 August 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

And "At Night" too!

― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Friday, 19 August 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

"At Night" is so ridiculously brilliant.

Actually, what would be totally brilliant would be a ten-minute long version of "Lost" that flowed into a ten-minute long version of "The Kiss".

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

1. Onimo
2. Ned
3. Kit Brash
4. Joshua Allen
5. Dr C
6. Petrowski
7. Dan Perry
8. Flowersdie
9. Teeny
10. Fortunate Hazel
11. Ian Reese Moraine
12. Kyle
13. Baader
14. kephm
15. Charlie No4

You've all been mailed, Flowersdie your mail has bounced back so please get in touch, I've added Kephm and Charlie to the list because I am a superstitious fool.

At Night, The Baby Screams & Primary gotcha thanks!

― mzui (mzui), Friday, 19 August 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Just replied! a BIG THANK YOU to you, Sir!

― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Rah!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

HOO RAH

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

If I could get a copy from someone I would be so happy. Will send extra blanks CD-Rs, even, or copy for someone else.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Yes, we'll develop a tree-like system to take over the world shortly.

― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

YAY

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Now let's have that tracklisting. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Patience, I'm still tweaking here and there.

― mzui (mzui), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

PUT DOWN THE DRUGS AND GIVE US OUR TRACKLISTING

(heh)

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

for instance I've just uncovered an awesomely trippy version of Shake Dog Shake from a gig in London 97 with what sounds like a siter or drobey keyboard things going on, really odd. Also a version of Close To Me (closer mix) but LIVE from the same gig, first time played too, sounds great!

― mzui (mzui), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

sitar......droney...film at eleven.

― mzui (mzui), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

can i get in on this?
i'll happily find someway to be helpful cause this is some damned fine buisiness

― bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Wish I could find that recording I had of their 11/85 Radio City show. I was there. It was magic. I am old.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Ditto on the YAY

― kephm (kephm), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

1. Intro/Plainsong - Essen Germany 89
2. Fire In Cairo (acoustic) - Birmingham 89
3. A Strange Day - Glastonbury 90
4. Lullaby - Glastonbury 90
5. Disintegration - Glastonbury 90
6. The Big Hand - London Secret Gig 91
7. Harold & Joe - Jonathan Ross Show London 91
8. Doing The Unstuck - London 92
9. Wendy Time - London 92
10. Friday I'm In Love - London 92
11. Three Imaginary Boys - London 92
12. Want - Manchester 96
13. Trap - Manchester 96
14. Shiver & Shake - Manchester 96
15. Bare - Manchester 96
16. Shake Dog Shake - London 97
17. Wrong Number - London 97

I've avoided too much Disintegration/Wish material here, you all have Entreat and Show right? But are we fans of Wrong Number? I've missed off Club America, Mint Car, The 13th could this be a mistake, opinions needed thx.

― mzui (mzui), Sunday, 21 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Hmmmm, nice and thank you. Leaving off "Mint Car" was VERY VERY wise. And "Wrong Number" will be cool to hear live -- I admit I would love to hear a live "The 13th."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 August 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

yes a live 13th is ESSENTIAL! a live Club America would be good if there's a particularly great version, but don't go sacrificing Harold & Joe or Wendy Time y'know? and I hope we are all fans of Wrong Number, yes.

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)

Okay lovelies,
I'm still missing details for:

Dr C
Petrowski
Flowersdie
Fortunate Hazel
Ian Reese Moraine

There's no mad hurry but it would be nice to have the addresses ready.

I'll squeeze a 13th in there too.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

So where are we on this?

― Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

I await patiently. But I still cry.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

(heheheh I'm now actually expecting the 4th CD to be a "Push"acopia.)

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Is it too early to start a "This is the thread where we anticipate the release of the Cure's new album in spring 2006"?

― Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

How about "This is the thread where we debate whether mzui can get Redux out before Bob Smith can cobble together a new album"?

:-P

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Oh, no, not too early at all. *starts slapping arm to raise vein* NEED FIX.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Apparently Porl will indeed be staying for the album.

― Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

OH DARN

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Info posted on Chain of Flowers that a fellow who interviewed the band in Spain passed on:

- New album next april 2006 with a new Cure World Tour.

- The album will be produced by Robert himself !! Robert told us that Ross Robinson is a great man and he will be involved in the making of the new album but not as a Producer.

- Robert told us that the new album will have keyboards !! Robert and Porl will play them and at the moment they are not thinking about a new cure member.

- Robert is in contact with Severin and maybe he is going to do a collaboration in the new album but not like a new Cure member.

- Robert is really happy with this new line-up. He thinks it was important to take a "new direction" now.

- About Roger : Robert told us that he is a great musician but maybe he wasn't a part of "The Cure soul" . . . they had differences in the way of working and about the future of The Cure so . . . it was better to continue with this new line up.

(after listening to Robert 's words we could suppose that Robert thinks that Roger is an excellent musician but maybe they are people with great "differences" and minds . . .)

- About Perry : This is different beceause : Robert told us that He and Porl had a drink with Perry in an English pub one week before Benicassim and they still have a great relationship. Robert told us that Perry admires Porl as one of the best guitar players in Great Britain.

After listening to Robert's words we thought that maybe Robert and Porl had been thinking about " Porl's comeback" for a long time . . . we saw that
Porl and Robert are more like band members. They were together all night long ( Jason and Simon were in the backstage area), so we understood that Porl has been always a Cure member even when he left the band. Porl told us that he is always in contact with Robert ... so when Robert is recording a new song or just thinking about the future of The Cure . . . Porl supports Robert. For example : Robert told us that they played " Signal To Noise" because Porl wanted to play this song !! so we tought that it's easy to believe that when Robert was thinking about this song (in 2001),
maybe Porl was helping him.

For this reason we all ( Hispacure members ) thought after the meeting that . . . maybe Robert and Porl have been thinking about Porl's comeback for a long time. "The official news" were that Roger and Perry left the band and after Porl would returnto The Cure . . .

But we think that Robert was unhappy with The Cure line up for different reasons.

Roger : they had different opinions . . .

Perry : maybe Robert wanted Porl in the band again and it was better that Perry left. We think that Perry had been the first guitar during more than a decade ... and if Porl returned it'd become a difficult situation for Perry (even if Perry admires Porl). He would have been a second guitar ... and this is really difficult to accept or understand.

- so Robert told us that he is now really happy with the new line up : full of energy . . .

We also spoke about football !! spanish football : Real Madrid and Valencia !! and he told us that he is still a Queen's Park Rangers' supporter.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha now watch him ask Lol back and dump Jason for Boris!

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

BACK TO THE FUTURE IV

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

It's coming! *cry*

― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

IT'S IN THE TREES!

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

YEAH RIGHT MZUI. What you think we're all just waiting on your kindness because we're lazy bums? Oh wait.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

I have a lovely Cranes CD for you Ned, and I will remove it from your package if you give me any more lip sonny jim, especially in capitals!

― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

*is meek*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Robert is really happy with this new line-up. He thinks it was important to take a "new direction" now.

I love how they trot out this line as if it's a fresh concept and the Cure's lineup *doesn't* change every ten minutes.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

ooh, I'd be willing to make copies of this to send out to others if someone can send a copy to me... damn this looks like some fine work!

― patita (patita), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

and dump Jason for Boris!

PLEAAAASE!

I love how they trot out this line as if it's a fresh concept and the Cure's lineup *doesn't* change every ten minutes.

The previous line-up had been solid for almost ten years, that's longer than most bands' entire careers.

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 9 September 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

*whimper*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

*streches*
*waits*

― Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Oy Vey...

CD 4 tracklisting in an hour or two.

I still need addresses from:

Dr C
Petrowski
Flowersdie
Fortunate Hazel
Ian Reese Moraine

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

We're calm folks, mzui, don't worry. *breaks down into floods of tears*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry Ned but my only decent copy of The 13th has two tape flips in it, so it doesn't make the cut (it was only played live a dozen times y'know) sorry bout that...

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Alas! (Though hmmm...any way interested parties could ask after a fifth bonus disc? I hear they're all the rage these days!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

I don't see a problem with that, but it is severely disrupted.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Eh, no worries -- another time. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

i'd almost, almost forgotten about this...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Actually Ned, If I can find a CD of a Paris 96 gig you might be in luck.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

oooh, i would love to hear the stuff from the top and the head on the door.

― tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

can anyone recommend any bootleg shows from that period?

this seems like a really cool and daunting project btw.

― tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I'd recommend:

Washington Post Pavillon - 84
Nanako Sun Plaza - 84
'Stained Glass Smile' Various Locations - 85
Glastonbury Festival - 86 (BBC Broadcast)
And the Top Demos...

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

thanks!

― tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Okay guys, here is the final, final tracklist...

Disc 1.

Disc 2.

Disc 3.

Disc 4.

1. Close To Me - (Live 'Closer Mix' Version) London 97
2. The Last Day Of Summer - Los Angeles 00
3. The Loudest Sound - Mansfield MA 00
4. 39 - Mansfield MA 00
5. Before Three - Everett WA 04
6. Lost - Everett WA
7. The Promise - Imola Italy 04
8. Us Or Them - Imola Italy 04
9. The Lovecats - Coachella Festival 04
10. Hey You - London Barfly 04
11. I Dig You - London Barfly 04
12. I'm A Cult Hero - London Barfly 04
13. A Letter To Elise - Belgium 05
14. The Baby Screams - Belgium 05
15. At Night - Belgium 05
16. 10:15 Saturday Night - Saint Pere 05

71 Tracks of heaven.

There will also be a bonus MP3 CD of the following complete concerts:

1. Olympia Theatre, Paris 1982
2. Washington 1984
3. Hamburg 1985
4. London Olympia 1992
5. Belgium, Grote Kaal 2005
6. Hotel Konrad Sessions (drunken, apres show pissing about on a piano singing cure songs, good fun)

And, if I get my act together (and I'm not promising I will) a DVD of pre 86 live material.

So, I just have to mail the final tracklisting to Josh for the artwork and get the dupes ready, I still need those addresses so if anybody knows the people who still haven't gotten in contact (upthread a bit), please give them a nudge for me or else they will miss out as I only intend to make 15.

And thanks to you all for yer patience, it is much appreciated...

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

GOD AMONGST MEN RIGHT HERE

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Now you know why it took me so damn long..:)

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Good lord man. I take back all my whining and complaints, as you are THE MAN. Or indeed the god!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

3. The Loudest Sound - Mansfield MA 00
4. 39 - Mansfield MA 00

I WAS AT THIS SHOW

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Your girlish screams are immortalized forever.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

I think I dropped a line about my interest in this back in the other thread, but I'm not sure anymore. Any chance to still get in on this?

― jonviachicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

YAY YAY YAY

(you can put an MP3 of the dodgy 13th on the MP3 disc!)

(and btw that Sydney "Forever" is offishully called "Three")

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

*sigh.* Oh well.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

once the copies go out to the lucky 15, then everyone else can start hassling said 15 for copies (and I think we're all happy to keep waiting if it means the DVD (!) will happen)

― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

hey, wow... that looks pretty amazing. especially if you're like me and only have a handful of cure bootlegs on vinyl.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Hazel, could you mail me a posting address sometime soon, thanks!

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

Jay Vee, I have a feeling that a couple of the people on the original list may miss the boat, a couple of my initial emails bounced back so I may be re-jigging the original list of 15, stay tuned.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

Hurray!

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

I was just about to revive this thread with a polite cough! Good work mzui!

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Awesome awesome awesome. I can't wait to hear the Brussels Hotel Conrad session (how the hell did that find its way on th enet?)

― Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

I suspect it was a covert recording by some fans, I've heard tales of Rob & Co taking over public rooms in hotels after gigs and having drunken singalongs with fans before. The quality ain't all that, it's just for a bit of a laugh really.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I wish I was a Cure fan, as opposed to someone who just dips his toe in the water now and again, as this looks quite an achievement.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm thinking about a 2 CD New Order one next, 80-89 only mind.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

I think I'd be interested in that ;-)

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

I've got a few great NO live boots if yr interested (when the time comes).

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

address has been emailed! sorry, i don't know what happened to the first one.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 29 September 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

I know I shouldn't be impatient, but I admit I am curious. Har har. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 October 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

I stare at the window
Stare at the window
Waiting for the day
To go

― Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Hurrah, DVD is go, artwork for the cd's is being finished now by the mighty Josh.

I still need postal addresses for:

Ian Reese Moraine
Flowersdie
Dr C
Petrowski

If anyone knows these people, can you give them a nudge from me.

Here is the DVD tracklist in-case yr interested..

1. French TV - Paris 16/11/79 Killing An Arab
2. Top Of The Pops - 1980 Primary
3. Amsterdam 1980 - Jumping/Another/Grinding Halt
4. Werchter Festival 7/81 - Fire In Cairo/Play For Today/A Forest
5. USA TV 17/10/81 - Three Imaginary Boys
6. AlabamaHalle Munich 1984 - Shake Dog Shake/Primary/Piggy In The Mirror/100 Years/Bananafishbones/Pornography
7. UK TV Old Grey Whistle Test 1985 - Interview/In Between Days/Close To Me/A Forest
8. Spanish TV 1985 - Charlotte Sometimes/Three Imaginary Boys
9. Rokskilde Festival 6/85 - 100 Years/Give Me It/A Forest
10. French TV 12/6/87 - Why Can't I Be You?

Hang in there, I'm nearly done.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Wow - this is turning into a mighty package!

― Baaderonixx says DANCE!! TAKE A CHANCE!!! are you ready for... TRUE ROMANCE (baa, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

I think the band itself is gonna want a copy of this it's so good. I hope one of the lucky initial recipients can remember me when the time comes. Just tell me what you need to make me a copy and I'll provide.

― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

you think you're tired now
but wait until three
laughing at the christmas lights
you remember
from december

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

The two of us, together again?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

I should note I have Dr. C's address should Mzui still need it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I sent mzui the final artwork a couple of weeks ago. Please stop burning effigies with fright-wig hair on my lawn. It was funny at first but now I have to get a landscaper over here to fix everything.

― Petroski (petroski), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

We're just a bit antsy, is all. *buries voodoo doll*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

As posted by Mzui elsewhere:

Back from NYC, all is good, I've started the packages, done the cd dupes, just waiting for a good moment to slip down to the expo shop and get the covers printed and cut.
-- mzui (mzu...), December 10th, 2005. (later)

:-D

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

*droooooools*

(mzui, you still got my details?)

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

If, for any reason, I can squeeze in on the list (if some of the original recipients have dropped off the face of the planet) --- 'cause this thing is just Hubba Hubba

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

but christmas falls late now
flatter and colder

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 22 December 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

So mzui said something on the Wire reissue thread that gives me much hope...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

every time i forget about this thread and its wondrous contents, somebody revives it and my interest is piqued once again...

so mzui, how's it all going?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I'll be ready to post out by the weekend, then once I have done a few I'll straighten out if there's anyone still missing addresses etc: I got Flowersdie's address so thats cool.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

good god. this looks awesome. so how's this going to work? are people who get initial copies going to offer up more to others? to be blunt: how can i get my greedy little hands on this amazing-looking set? hmm?

― Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:42 (twenty years ago)

*hopeful look*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 January 2006 05:59 (twenty years ago)

So alone into the cold new year without another word

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 16 January 2006 12:36 (twenty years ago)

http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/badger/Badgers-Mom_with_2cubs.jpg

l-r: lurker, Ned, Und.

― Dan (Poor Mzui) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 January 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

A fairly accurate photo, that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 January 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

First batch, in the post today..!

*mock-faints with exhaustion*

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

WOOT!

― Dan (You Are Awesome) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

:-D

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Brilliant! Well done mzui, I had every faith.

― Onimo (Dan Perry is RITE) um, onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks to y'all for being patient, I'm working through the list this week a few at a time so hang in there.

Kudos to K1T for sending me a mint quality copy of the Sydney Faith tour recording, and especially to Josh for the fantastic artwork, they make a very handsome set, so much so that I think when I print the next batch of covers I'll do it in better qualty paper...

I mentioned upthread that I'm considering a New Order '80-'89 2 CD set, so get thinking about tracks peeps.

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

You have, of course, posted the furthest-away earliest...

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

Indeed.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

I KISS YOU (KISS YOU KISS YOU)

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

Awwwww YEAH!!

― Baaderonixx, born again in Xixax (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

And Gerry's cause he was one of the 3 badgers :)

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

May I ask again if anyone here likes me enough to make me a copy. Just let me know what I have to do, on your own time. Thanks for all your work mzui.

― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I guess we can talk about that soon, when all 15 have gone out. There were some kind souls offering up thread, I'm sure there still are, I can YSI Josh's artwork when the time comes.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm happy to copy disks and send them around the UK for a few people if it helps.

Email my gmail (removing the cunning spam filter) with address details.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Me too! Me too! And I'll have stuff to contribute to the NO comp.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Glad the artwork turned out OK, and of course I'll be happy to send around some copies, too.

― Petroski (petroski), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Just noticed that the last song on disc four has a couple of inexplicable minutes of silence at the end, I'm sorting this out but it shouldn't hopefully affect anyone's enjoyment, there isn't a hidden track as much as it might appear!

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Does that mean I get a "rare early pressing featuring a cover of 4'33" removed from later editions"?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone got it yet?

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Not yet...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I got mine mzui, thanks! Excellent stuff, great quality throughout. Today I have mostly been listening to disc 3.

I'm doing copies for a couple of friends and I'm happy to do a few more if anyone wants to email me.

Could you possibly YSI the artwork?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

It has arrived.

:-D :-D

More later.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, utterly brilliant, but! There's a tracklisting error -- "Charlotte Sometimes" comes first on disc one, after "Fire in Cairo"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

But that quibble aside -- mzui, you are a genius man and a half. This has all been worth the wait and I thank ya greatly. :-)

I will happily volunteer to help burn copies for folks here in the States, but to avoid doing it forever I'll limit it to the first five folks who respond *and* who are willing to post here saying they'll burn copies for five more, etc. Write me at my e-mail below and be prepared to send five CDRs -- I have no DVD burning capability at present, regrettably, so that will have to be set aside in this tree.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

is there any tiny chance to get this wonder as far as in moscow, russialand, please?

― nique (nique), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

Have any Canadians received a copy?

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

mzui , did you get my change of address email ? think i sent it out about a month ago.

― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

The version of "The Wailing Wall" = aw yeah.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't received it :-(

― Baaderonixx, born again in Xixax (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Can I get on someone's "tree" (ha hah) once they receive theirs? I'm willing to burn/ship 5 of the CD-R sets (don't have a DVD burner, unfortunately) in return.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Please to note, dear Jay Vee, that therefore you should write me directly like I said. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

GINORMOUS HAPPY FACE EMOTICON

― Dan (Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Happy the Dan.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

nervous impatient teeth-gritting emoticon

― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

Another minor thing for the artwork, Mzui, if you're going to YSI it -- "Us or Them" isn't listed for disc four. The actual song is there on the disc, though, so all's good!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 06:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ned I would love a copy as well. We are practically neighbors and I have a brand new computer with all the bells and whistles (CD/DVD burner with LightScribe technology). So we can get these burns out to people in the States if they are so inclined. That is my e-mail and will be getting an e-mail from me sometime tomorrow.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

So on my second relisten through the whole main set and really, this is such a wonderful collection. A lot of performances that are monstrously good -- the version of "Want," jeeps. And "The Promise!" I always regretted missing the 2004 tour and now I'm kicking myself.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

What's the footage on the DVD like?

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

That will be my viewing tonight.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Mzui, did I not make the cut? In that case, I would beg a euro-ilxor to accept my on the second draft...

― Baaderonixx, born again in Xixax (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

And though I'd already heard them elsewhere, of course in the end it's all about:

http://www.afoolisharrangement.com/Cure/pictures/CultHero/cultherolive030504_001.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Baader, I think you did, I have the list at work, bear with me till tomorrow, not all packages have been sent, been staggering it across two weeks cause of postal expenses etc:

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

dear mzui,
is there any chance to get this little wonder as far as in moscow, russialand, very please?
i can take postal expenses on myself, just in case..

― nique (nique), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

Been watching some of the DVD just now -- I really honestly love how, far from being a distraction, the age of the source tapes and the cloudier images actually make everything seem frighteningly up to date! Bands out there now are spending all this mean just to look that way as with the TOTP clip of "Primary" and all that -- all the visual glitches look incredibly intentional!

Also really nice to see the visuals that go with the "Fuck Robert Palmer!" take of "A Forest" (the Rock Werther 1981 version) and a six song set from the 1984 era band, just to see Andy Anderson on drums (as well as the bizarro bop 'yeah I'm getting into it!' take on bass courtesy of Mr. Thornalley).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 February 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

We will work this out! Ned and I will get together soon to make copies. So if you are in the States and want a copy (only audio, only DVD or both) post in this thread so we can see how many we need to burn and all that. If you want to get a hold of us by e-mail instead both are valid.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 9 February 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

Here is a link for the artwork, this will have the two typos that Ned pointed out, unless Josh fancies rejigging the two pages, this is how they stand folks.

http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=39PO1W4JSGXZC1EMCOA0P6R1JD

― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 9 February 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Regardless, this look fantastic and was a monumental effort across the board. Thanks so much mzui, Josh, and all other contributors.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 9 February 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Baader, you are on the original list, so hang tight.

― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 9 February 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Mzui, did you get my home address?

New email address is:- splintereinherhead2003@yahoo.com

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 9 February 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Awww yeah!

― Baaderonixx, born again in Xixax (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

erm, or even splinteredinherhead2003@yahoo.com

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

mzui, whats up? am i still on the original list? muchos gracias

― kephm (kephm), Friday, 10 February 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

Just another 'liner note' correction, but this time on the DVD -- the final track on the AlabamaHalle 1984 set is "Wailing Wall," not "Pornograpy."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 February 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

Er, "Pornography." You get the idea.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 February 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

No, never mind, let me correct that again! The running of the end credits from the original show confused my brain -- "Wailing Wall" is immediately followed by "Pornography." Bonus cut!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 February 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

...and the version of "A Forest" listed at the end of the Old Grey Whistle Test set is from another appearance when Thornalley and Anderson were still in the band, but isn't from the AlabamaHalle show.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 February 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops -- I'll update the artwork tomorrow and post a new YSI link. If anyone notices any other errors, please post them.

― Petroski (petroski), Friday, 10 February 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

Dang, the Washington 84 show is good stuff. Love the version of "Primary!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Is today going to be the day when I can listen to disc 2 all the way through without interruption??? WE'LL FIND OUT!

― Dan (I'm Going In) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

It really should be the day, yes.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

FOILED BY TRACK 3

― Dan (I Hate Cubicles) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

UPDATE: I still don't like "Push".

― Dan (Stupid Song) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahah.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

OK chums the corrected artwork is here:
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2N1S7298IJH6G2X6SCQVR0QTTO

― Petroski (petroski), Friday, 10 February 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

If you want to get in on the action let us know. I'm going to help burn the DVD for a quite a few ILMers next week, along with the audio. Ned may have a few slots left and I haven't put a cap on how many I will do as of yet. If the demand is too great and starts to cost too much money than I will rethink that but right now is the time to let us know if you are interested in a copy of this collection.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 11 February 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry everyone, something major has come up. So I'm not going to be able to get to this for about another week...again sorry but real life is a bitch right now.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 16 February 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

mine still hasn't turned up :(

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 16 February 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

mine either..

― Baaderonixx, born again in Xixax (baaderonixx), Thursday, 16 February 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to try and get this done asap for you guys who are waiting. Real life got in the way for a bit but should have the burns done by the end of the week if everything goes as planned.

It's also not too late for those who have missed this thead but the door is closing. E-mail me if interested...

― BeeOK (boo radley), Sunday, 26 February 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

i'm drunk! i'm going to put on the cure, not joy division.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 26 February 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

still hasn't turned up :(²

― kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 26 February 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to get involved with this. Is it strictly a "hard copy" thing, or would it be possible for the discs to be ripped and then distributed as files via YSI? Or is that going against the spirit of the project?

― cdwill (cdwill), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hard copy is simply the most practical given the file sizes on the four main discs themselves -- that said, presumably if someone wanted to make a torrent using FLAC or a similar standard, then it could circulate that way. Don't know how useful that would be for the DVD, though.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'd be willing to create a torrent of these in FLAC, but the source files would have to be .wav files, or else encoding to lossless would be pointless (and not truly lossless)- I'm not sure what the source(s) of these tracks are, format-wise.

The DVD would have to travel separately from the audio tracks on most or all torrent sites, but I guess they could be cross-referenced or something.

― cdwill (cdwill), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, you need to read the thread over, my friend. ;-) mzui was very specific about getting these directly from non-mp3 sources -- there is the bonus mp3 disc, but that was initially separate.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't clear: I saw that he's recording from master recordings, but if the discs themselves weren't .wav files burned to disc (but instead were .wav --> .mp3 --> burned to disc), they couldn't be ripped from disc and encoded to FLAC and be truly lossless.

― cdwill (cdwill), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

*blink* Okay, call me hopelessly naive perhaps, but surely the context of all his posts was to indicate that he was finding those master recordings to burn WAV/AIFF files to disc rather than burning mp3s reconverted to audio files.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'd assume so, but I didn't see anything specifically mentioned about it.

― cdwill (cdwill), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Guess what I have in my hot little hands. So anyone waiting for Ned (because I’m burning the DVD’s for him) or myself, the wait is almost over. So if everything goes as planned I will be burning all weekend and get these out on Monday or Tuesday. Thanks for being patient but it’s almost time.

BTW, the DVD kicks ass, we really need a part two to that because it’s so great and also really only goes through The Top era with only a couple of songs past that point.

Regardless BIG props to Mzui for this amazing collection! Thanks also to ILM for contributing the songs to this collection as it’s something special.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

still hasn't turned up :( ³

― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 4 March 2006 05:38 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Very excited!! i love the sorta-goofy-yet-completely-awesome Thornalley/Anderson lineup of the band.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 4 March 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

still empty handed here :(

― kephm (kephm), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Done!

I will try and get this off to everyone today but most likely tomorrow. The thing is I have burned an extra set. So the reason for bumping this thread is to ask if anyone wants it? If so e-mail me at the address below and we will go from there.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

not fair! let the original list get theirs before the blow-ins!

― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

Still nothing here :(

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

me neither :(

― Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 March 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

Boy, is this thing mighty. Thanks, mzui and baaderonix and BeeOK and all involved.
And did anyone notice the guy playing bass in the Munich '84 concert isn't Phil Thornalley. It's some guy named Norman Fisher Jones. Who he? Love his Mick Karn'ish head bopping, as Ned noted above.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 16 March 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

Don't know why I thanked you there, Baaderonix but - er -

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 16 March 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

I thought that it should be hitting mail boxes around now. It's amazing, that is for sure, and you are welcome.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 16 March 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

And did anyone notice the guy playing bass in the Munich '84 concert isn't Phil Thornalley. It's some guy named Norman Fisher Jones. Who he?

Whoa, weird. (Am about to give another copy to a friend of mine around here, rah. Thanks again, BeeOK!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 March 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

Back at you Ned, glad to see that they made it home saftly.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 16 March 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

I thought that it should be hitting mail boxes around now

OH COME ON ORIGINAL LIST PEOPLE AND ACTUAL CONTRIBUTORS FIRST PLEEEEASE

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 16 March 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

we're the lost generation...

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Thursday, 16 March 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

I admit I'm a bit curious and sad about this strange delay for you guys! :-/

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I promise my blank discs are on the way soon Ned and BeeOk. I haven't gotten a chance to go buy a DVD-R, but it will happen.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I still haven't seen mine, either. I did the artwork! I used my very own pirated copy of Photoshop and everything!

― Petroski (petroski), Thursday, 16 March 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

mzui said they'd be rolling out slowly as time and finances allow.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone in the UK looking for a copy can email me.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 17 March 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

mzui said they'd be rolling out slowly as time and finances allow

Yes, but it would be nice if Ned and Bee could have held off on making copies for non-contributing people until the original list had gotten theirs.

― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 18 March 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

I can understand your frustration. Things came up all the time so it still took about a month for me to get anything done anyways. I felt bad to these people that I promised because it took that long.

If there is anything I can do to help get this out to people e-mail me at the address below so we can work out something, if there is still a problem.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 18 March 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

Holy awesomeness. (Thanks for the burn, Ned)

― remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yez welcome. (I should note that if I knew the angst this was all going to cause I would have refrained from burning for other folk for a bit! I'd volunteer to get them to those still in need but since I've no DVD burner Bee and Onimo are probably better candidates in the end.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

Offer is still open because of these problems...

― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

So is it over then for us, the lost tribe of the first generation?

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Friday, 31 March 2006 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Is everyone happy?

― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

Bee, you may be the patron saint of all this yet.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

is there a way to get the tracklisting?

― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

It's way upthread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Still nothing :(

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 07:20 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

a distant pipe dream...

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, who else never got a copy, then?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

I had hoped for a kind soul to run me off a copy at some point. I can pay for shipping and all that.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

I can make copies. I think I offered somewhere for UK people to contact me to obtain one. If anyone further afield is having trouble I can always send a copy though it would obviously be better if someone nearer offered.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in Belgium, so if anyone around these shores is willing to spread the love...

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

I never got one.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm in the States (Boston), but I'll cover the cost from wherever. It's not like I can go out to Ye Olde Recorde Shoppe and find this stuff, so it's worth it.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

I never got one.

! :-(

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

BOS: Email me.

― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I sent out four copies of this and gave Ned an additional five DVD's. So a bunch of ILMers got it but if not you can still get a hold fo me, email below.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the DVDs were sent out along with burned sets to folks hither and yon, so I know it should be easily circulating...I have stumbled across an extra DVD just now, and so I'd be willing to burn off one more copy of the full set to go with that. Otherwise this is all best handled by people who can burn both CDs and DVDs.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still waiting too, as my frequent plaintive howling upthread has indicated. BRING DVD TO SYDNEY NED

― Kit (kit brash), Thursday, 27 July 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

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