The White Stripes - "Get Behind Me Satan"

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I haven't heard it or anything, but I reckoned it needed a thread.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

what daring and original cover art (if in fact that is the cover art)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah... what's he got there?!

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

a loaf of bread?

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a nice picture no matter what!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

you want daring and original cover art i got an out hud album here i can sell ya

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

new thread for "daring and original" cover art?

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I quite like them.

The song titles of the new album are very cool, I think. I hope they sound good, too.

PB, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a great cover, I agree.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

what daring and original cover art (if in fact that is the cover art)

those objects in their hands (is that a plastic apple? and what's he carrying?) remind me of matthew barney.

it's a very nice cover; whatever they're doing with their spare hands reminds me of:

http://no-direction-home.at/saved.jpg

also: nice bouffant!!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

That cover is really great.

buck van morrison (Buck Van Smack), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

From xfm:

The couple are facing away from each other with a white microphone hanging behind their heads, but their hands are close to joining behind them. For reasons that one can only imagine are massively symbolic, Meg is holding a pure white apple (the first single to be taken from the album Blue Orchid features this detail as its cover) while Jack seems to be cradling a large albino marrow.

buck van morrison (Buck Van Smack), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit, I forgot to add this to the post...

...Or maybe its a butternut squash. It's hard to tell.

buck van morrison (Buck Van Smack), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not a bouffant, duder.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

and that aint no squash.

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the whole album a bunch of good wacky crude soul-funk trax like "Blue Orchid?" Because if so, then - yay.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

John Gillis (Aaron W), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Jack's holding a scroll.

Joe McCombs didn't feel like logging in, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Jack White in Parade era Prince sorta look shocker.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Jack White in Purtian preacher shockah.

giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

what the spare hand thing reminded me of:
http://plaza.rakuten.co.jp/img/user/80/17/5918017/4.jpg

But yeah, if this is their 'coke-album' (White Blood Cells meets White Lines), I'm looking forward to hearing it.

willem (willem), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

What's with the massive pic/link/ad on Stylus?

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

this is widely thought to be their worst/most commercial/experimental failure to diversify their sound/cant believe they went out like this album isnt it? at least thats the reports ive read so far.... admittedly only on channel 4 teletext but hey.

theblahbariancossomeonehasregisteredwiththisnameivebeenusingformonths, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i reckon it could be their best album so far. certainly, 'red rain' and 'take take take' and 'the nurse' are stikingly great songs. 'blue orchid' is a red herring, though - while the album hangs together perfectly, there isn't a song that sounds like another song on the album throughout (is that clear?).

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

For reasons that one can only imagine are massively symbolic

xfm are such idiots.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I've heard it. Get ready for some weak, weak melodies.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

the cover to the promo vinyl is better - meg as frontwoman of a raucous chicano rockabilly band

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Coldplay album out same day - get ready for even weaker melodies.

Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

so promos are out there now? so is it pants or what? honestly?

blahbariantheoriginal, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

honestly?

'take take take', 'red rain' and 'the nurse' are among my favourite white stripes songs. there's not a bad song on there. its not pants whatsoever.

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.theknish.com/images/12pic1.jpg

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

is it them going commercial? cos while i do like the single, that riff and the production sounds a bit too FM rock radio-ready to me. its a good way of combining their sound with more accessibility though without compromising too distressingly though.

ppp, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't decide whether Meg looks really, really hot or really, really ugly with her new hairdo.

John Hunter, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

They're both behind each other = they both think the other is Satan! Yikes.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

is it them going commercial?

Yeah, White Stripes have been an underground concern with no mainstream coverage for far too long!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

AT LAST THE PUBLICITY THEY NEED

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

At least, I was hoping the music was hinting at them becoming the Jonzun Crew or something, given that this is the only logical next fashion step for them.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

what i mean, is while THEY have been in the charts and popular, they havent significantly altered their sound, really, have they?

ppp, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

jack is holding one of the those jumbo wiffle ball bats

dan (dan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

He did it like this, he did it like that...

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(OK, now I wanna hear the White Stripes cover "Paul Revere" so I know something's wrong with me)

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

That really is a great cover.

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

This is going to be the biggest goth record in years.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I like reading the title of the song in an Irish brogue.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

jack reminds me a bit of johnny depp in that picture

6335, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know about their recycling of country-gospel motifs as kitsch, it seems i dunno a bit too easy. unless jack white has had some real religious conversion or something (i doubt it).

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Jack needs to shave off his mustache. NOW.

lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know, the hand thing looks like an obvious reference to the sistine chapel, god and adam nearly touching . . . isn't that what dylan and et are also referencing?

sanchito, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

unless jack white has had some real religious conversion or something (i doubt it).

hasn't jack always been quietly religious?

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Unlike me, who is quietly contemptuous. (Of everything, because I am full of hate.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

an obvious reference to the sistine chapel

i was thinking more of the title of the record, which is a holy-roller sort of phrase.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, yes. It's actually a near-direct quote from the New Testament.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)


Matthew 16:23. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Mark 8:33. But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

Luke 4:8. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Rock being of god, everyone's happy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Inspiration for Jack White's tash:

http://www.davecov.com/comedy/whispersfromwalmington/website_images/walkerhead.jpg

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i know it's from the bible. but different folks tend to quote different passages of the bible, and i tend to associate the use of this phrase with american holy-roller evangelism. you probably wouldn't hear it much in a catholic church, for example.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

this seems an extremely odd title to me. even though it's from the bible, it seems deliberately out-of-context enough to be taken the opposite way from its intended meaning. very curious indeed. i wonder what it's supposed to signify.

Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

well this has leaked, apparently. anyone heard it? i wanna wait til it hits the shops before i hear it.

ppp, Friday, 20 May 2005 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like old White Stripes with pounding piano instead of pounding guitar, and acoustic guitar and mariamba songs. I've only had a few listens but it seems like their punchiest record so far-- a "total distillation" (like a new Spoon record, kind of) of everything they used to stand for, but more cracked and interesting than ever before. Good stuff, even if the rip is a bit dodgy.

Eric Seguy, Friday, 20 May 2005 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

is the sound and production still raw like before or is it all like blue orchid? cool to hear they have pounding piano - im sick of the piano being used merely as an elegant instrument in rock these days.

ppp, Friday, 20 May 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish it was called Get Behind Me Stan.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 20 May 2005 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

God I fucking hate the White Stripes

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 20 May 2005 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It's cowboy goth!

Kaiser of Köln (Kaiser of Köln), Friday, 20 May 2005 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

its the fruit of the tree!

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 20 May 2005 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.blanchemusic.com/

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 20 May 2005 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"It sounds like the album Spoon would make if they were all addicted to crack."

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

It's cowboy goth!

ihttp://www.jungle-records.demon.co.uk/photos/fields-dusty%20early%20group%20pic.jpg

"MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONCHILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLD!!!!!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Pounding piano & drums from a two piece band?

Sounds familiar.

Without having heard this yet....

Taking Sides: The White Stripes Vs. The Dresden Dolls anyone?

fandango (fandango), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Not quite, no.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the OMM review:

The White Stripes, Get Behind Me Satan

**** Jack and Meg's sublime back catalogue pours scorn on the notion that size is everything. But now, frets Craig McLean, for all their bursts of brilliance, they're in danger of taking their lo-fi stance too far

Sunday May 22, 2005

AD 2005: the summer of big albums, big festivals and big tours. The new records from Coldplay and Oasis are already infamous for their elephantine gestations and back-to-the-drawing-board restarts... Gorillaz's high-concept second outing has been precision-tooled by pop scientists... With a fallow year looming in '06, Glastonbury is more feverishly anticipated than ever; all the other weekend events sold-out extra quickly... U2 bring their Vertigo tour to the nation's stadiums, closely followed by REM in some of our loveliest country parks...

Elsewhere in places with no roofs: Green Day, Morrissey, the battlin' Gallaghers, and Chris Martin and his merry men... Three cheers, then, for the White Stripes and their heroic stand against a music industry gripped by gigantism. This fifth album was written and recorded in several days for the cost of (it seems) a pencil and paper to scratch out some lyrics, a baby's rattle for Meg, a new Mexican hat for Jack, a couple of children's instruments (batteries not included), and a marimba. Although musical arcana-loving Jack probably would have bought the latter anyway.

When this no-faffing approach works, it really works. 'Blue Orchid' motors along on disco beats and ferociously clipped riffs. It is - unbelievable but true - the best song Daft Punk never did. 'My Doorbell' is a honky-tonkin' rhythm'n'blues tune that has Jack yelping like he's got cat scratch fever. 'As Ugly As I Seem' sounds like a fresh-as-cut-grass demo, a woodsy folk song with endearingly shonky tom-toms. Just as elegantly ramshackle is 'Take, Take, Take', a Stonesy rough'n'tumble, although quite why a doorbell rings during it I'm not sure. All good, thrillingly raw stuff.

But elsewhere, there's a sense that for the Stripes, the medium has become the message. Never mind the songs, look at how quickly and cheaply we can make records... Last album Elephant may have been recorded on vintage kit in a particularly grotty part of troubled London borough Hackney, but at least the songs were ballsy and coherent. The culprits here? 'The Nurse', which suggests 'Don't Cry for Me Argentina' redone for Elvis's Blue Hawaii (that marimba sounds more Polynesian than Mexican), before it's stomped all over by random crunchy riffs and Les Dawson on piano; the plodding 'White Moon', which for some reason features the sound of a box of cutlery being knocked over; the by-the-numbers shuffle of 'Instinct Blues'; and 'Little Ghost', a banjo-led strum that was perhaps too anodyne even for the underwhelming Loretta Lynn album Jack produced. Also wanting: the lyrics of 'Passive Manipulation', an otherwise cute micro-song that Meg trills, which rehashes the old White siblings/couple 'intrigue'.

Still, when it comes to being defiantly different, no one tops them. 'Red Rain' mixes up slide guitar and toy bells, and 'Forever For Her (is Over for Me)' is a beautiful, spectral lament. And if you've ever wondered what lo-fi Led Zep would sound like, the White Stripes present 'The Denial Twist'.

Cracking album title, too.

blahbariantheoriginal, Monday, 23 May 2005 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, These guy are total cowboy goth..

http://www.newwavephotos.com/vinyls/Vinyl01.jpg

"KID SHYLEEEEEEN!"

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 23 May 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Heard it yesterday, kinda funky, Beck-ish.

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Monday, 23 May 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Good, surprisingly they use a lot of pianos. But that's a good thing.

zeus, Monday, 23 May 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought they covered "Get Behind Me Satan, and Push".

Ian Riese-Moraine is on toffuti break! (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 23 May 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

well, i just heard this for the first time and...

...shit me, it's dreadful. what a terrible album. there doesn't seem to be a single good song on it.

will this grow on me, or is it really as awful as it seems?

Lee F# (fsharp), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

If you don't like "My Doorbell," you have no soul.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

everytime I try to acquire this through nefarious means I am defeated. surely it is on the dc++ now?

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It should still be lurking on torrentspy.com, I think.

John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

> cool to hear they have pounding piano - im sick of the piano being used merely as an elegant instrument in rock these days.


YES. I like the piano best when it's used as a percussion instrument.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

the piano reminds me of whatever piano rjd2 sampled on "let the good times roll pt 1", this albums a mess - ALOT of people are gonna be disappointed (not nearly as much guitar or rock as you might expect) - but it has it's moments, it's an interesting curio.

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"My Doorbell" is fantastic.

zeus, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

oh well, only about three weeks to go....

blahbariantheoriginal, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)

if i said "My Doorbell" kinda sounds like Hanson, can you hear where i'm coming from at all? it's mostly in the sound of the vocal, although it's in the vocal melody of the chorus too.

Lee F# (fsharp), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the ballads on white stripes album tend to be a tad boring most of the time, so if thats what this new album is like, i cant imagine being too into it.

blahbariantheoriginal, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not a big Stripehead, but I like it. Less capital-A Ambitious than Elephant, more playful, with fewer arbitrary rules. Does not sound like a "feeling the pressure of expectations" album a'tall.

The piano is indeed nicely percussive ("we-get-high-in-back-seats-of-cars..."). Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I'd say less "country-gospel" than appalachiana-spiritual. With the usual happy dose of Page'n'Plant, and some welcome Headphone! Friendly! Studio! Trickery! (e.g., the multitracked vox on "Take, Take, Take")

no comment on boringness of ballads except to say that "I'm Lonely (But I Ain't That Lonely Yet)" is a lovely bit of, okay, fine, gospel with a smidge of "Still Crazy After All These Years". Will make a nice pair with "Crazy For You (But Not That Crazy)" on some mixtape...

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 30 May 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

if i said "My Doorbell" kinda sounds like Hanson.

I don't know why but this seems like a plus to me. Heh.

Haven't heard the album but looking forward to it now!

Roz (Roz), Monday, 30 May 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i definitely hear hanson in "my doorbell"

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 30 May 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear Jackson 5.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 30 May 2005 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

...and you can hear the Jackson 5 in Hanson as well.

zeus, Monday, 30 May 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

It's come full circle!

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 30 May 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

But yeah, if this is their 'coke-album'

is this true?

rizzx (rizzx), Monday, 30 May 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Indeed it is.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

got 'proof'? they said that in interviews?

rizzx (rizzx), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think they would admit to being coked up in interviews. One needs only to listen to "The Nurse" to see that this is their drug record.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

hehe, will give it a spin in a moment

rizzx (rizzx), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe how anyone can seriously see that promo pic and not fall head-over-heels in love with Meg White.

tryin to slsk it right now..

Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Monday, 30 May 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone heard the new b-sides? bought both CDs today. the 'baby' one is kinda weird, not as interesting as it could have been, but its almost like plodding 'experimental' hip hop tempos/rhythms meets something beck might have done on stereopathic a decade or so ago. only heard it once so far so maybe it will sound different next time. the other one is far more intriguing, i forget the title but its cut by jack alone and features vocals sped up to sound like full on kanye west samples! sort of like how prince used to have his sped up camille character or george clinton had sir nose, except jack does it even more chipmunkish! strange. almost not too good and a bit too kanye-like, but the song is recorded quite weirdly and seems to have cut up splices which are unusual for jack. thats the best b-side of the lot but the pitched up vocals have weirded me out. was hoping the instrumental would be more freakish or avant gardeish.

blahbariantheoriginal, Monday, 30 May 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

There's an actual cd rip of it out there now. The vinyl rip sounded terrible, and may have had something to do with a lousy first impression.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the vinyl rip, and am not crazy about it. Is there that much of a difference? Frankly, I have a hard time believing that that's the problem. I'm trying to like it, but I'm having a hard time.

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, the vinyl rip sounded so flat I really just didn't want to pay attention to it. So I guess I'm really just hearing it for the first time.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The vinyl rip is obviously very bad. I didn't even bother to listen to it after I scanned a few seconds from each track. Looking for the CD rip now.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

CD rip is up on Pirate Bay.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm Lonely (But I Ain't That Lonely Yet)" is a lovely bit of, okay, fine, gospel with a smidge of "Still Crazy After All These Years". Will make a nice pair with "Crazy For You (But Not That Crazy)" on some mixtape...

Or "I'm lonely (But I love it)"!

Sym Sym (sym), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the nurse is really intriguing, but what the fuck are all those sudden, out of sync bursts of guitar/kick drum clanging doing in there? being noisy and experimental is all very well and really quite great, but at least chuck it in there for a reason at the right time!

is it a ref to zellwegger in nruse betty?

jackblack, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Those b-sides that blahbariantheoriginal referred to are not doing anything for me. I like the idea of them pulling some weird Ween-ish stuff, but "Big Baby" just goes ON and ON. And the "Though I Hear You Calling" one is just sort of quiet in every way.

On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

its cool when the nurse rocks out at the end and builds up to it but the big bursts of noise on the track are odd and a bit jarring and uneccesary. i think jack is just fucking around and putting these weird things in there for the sake of it, like the chipmunk thing. in a way though, its as though jack has shed the shackles of being so minimalist and rigid with the rules. at the same time though, its as though he doesnt know quite what hes doing yet, its like hes just found out about other things you can do in a record apart from have guitar and drums. shame he didnt bother tinkering around first, before recording. if the rest of the album is like this, i hope they release a new one soonish. this seems like a stopgap album, not one to last for two years. big baby is a boring bside, one which needs some more ideas badly, the other one - though i hear you calling- is much better, a better song, more interesting, nicely distorted too, but the chipmunk thing - argh!

percypisspantyliners, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe how anyone can seriously see that promo pic and not fall head-over-heels in love with Meg White.

Because her teeth are made out of blocks of wood!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

just saw the review of this in mojo - basically seemed to be saying 'get back to what you used to do, more electic guitars please, less experimentation would be better, more normal pop songs - where are they?' still looking forward to hearing this.

ppp, Friday, 3 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

this suX0rz.

reminds me of why i wanted them offstage when they opened for pavement...
blah. bland as bland can be...
somebody tell jacky boy his herky-jerky gtr kicks were far and away a better deal, please+thanx.

eedd, Friday, 3 June 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

oh, and they're "coke" albums' been done already.
twice over even.

this is they're "too much herbs and spices" album

eedd, Friday, 3 June 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

coke albums?

this sounds like its their 'wow i have just found out about trickery with technology and im going to record everything before ive even mastered what i can do with it' album.

ppp, Friday, 3 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

ILM makes it sound interesting VS. the single is even more horrible, boring, and pointless than I'd ever expected from the White Stripes. And I don't much go for the White Stripes. I was thoroughly baffled as to what anyone was getting out of their last little chart-climber single, and if this one does the same I'll be confused times ten.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 3 June 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

MOJO make it sound like their 'Kid A'.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 3 June 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

what a shame that mojo and their disgustingly small minded ilk arent praising the stripes for trying to do something new, challenge their fans, and in a way, the rock audience as a whole. its not perfect but at least theyre trying.

KiDB, Friday, 3 June 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

keith harris on the album:

http://villagevoice.com/music/0523,harris,64666,22.html

xhuxk, Friday, 3 June 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

The White Stripes - "It's Not Perfect But At Least We're Trying": C or D?

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 3 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

what a shame that mojo and their disgustingly small minded ilk arent praising the stripes for trying to do something new, challenge their fans, and in a way, the rock audience as a whole.

patience, grasshopper. the balance will be redressed very soon...

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

it's not small minded to criticize a band for doing something new, when that newness sheds the band of everything that was appealing to begin with...its absurd to think that the band deserves credit for "trying" - this isn't Little League....charges that this is their "coke album" seem inaccurate also, its simply the sound of the WS's ideas running dry...I haven't given up on them yet, but this is their first album that I will not purchase

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

that VV review, by the way, is as weak as the album it attempts to analyze...the "until we boys get our own Courtney Love" line made me cringe...the writer is so concerned with finding some type of meaning within the lyrics,examining Jack's celebrity and judging his status as a "moody artsy" type, that he forgets to talk about the MUSIC

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

i think it's fine (and I've only heard the vinyl rip); it doesn't strike me as a massive departure, though.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

If I mildly disliked everything they've released so far but enjoyed the new single, should I buy this?

The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

if you want more stuff that sounds like the single, I'd say no as it's definitely the only thing that sounds like that.

I'm enjoying it, though I'm a touch suprised at how little guitar is on there. it reminds me a lot of the quieter parts of de stijl.

his ignorance is encyclopedic (haitch), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0009LDNBI.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

The hell is that?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

cover of the blue orchid single!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Those people are much more attractive than the Whites, that should be the cover of the album.

I don't like this record. Hanson would have known not to make "My Doorbell" 4 minutes long. "Red Rain" is what they do best -- Zep knock-offs made unrecognizably perverse. "The Nurse" could have been okay, too, but also overlong. Maybe if they'd taken twice as long to record half as many songs that were half as long this would have been a great EP.

Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)


uhh.. Did they do a sponsorship tie-in with Crest?

http://banananutrament.blogspot.com/2005/06/white-stripes-white-light-no-heat.html

alistair headerly, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

yeah they were giving the blue orchid 7" away for free at scotti's last week

That One Guy (That One Guy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

This album is stupendous.

Honest.

PB, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

this is sooooo much better than elephant

That One Guy (That One Guy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

this album is soooo a waste of time.
hell, even the new trail of dead sounds better! that's saying something as i consider it the album to avoid so far this year....

i'll give the WS's this, if this is thier attempt to shake the fanbase they've got up till this point, they've out-done themselves in making something that'll do the trick!

way to flake out, Jack.

eedd, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Everyone from the fans to the critics seem more split than ever.

IMO it's going to come down to the familiarity factor: as we feed and get fed this thing all summer long and into the fall, the relentless media machine will plug away until we believe this is a classic.


ubx, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

"My Doorbell" hits my ears as a splendid twist on early '70s pop OR the poor stepbaby of Wings' "Let 'Em In"

ubx, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

IMO it's going to come down to the familiarity factor

not for me, i swear. if they'd re-released 'De Stijl' with different song names it'd be on constant rotation and i'd be hailing it as album of the year.

Lee F# (fsharp), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

The album's fine. I dig it.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Despite the hype, Jack White never has given us the greatest thing since sliced bread, just songs that sound like timeless blues-rock classics when you hear them three years later. Which may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, actually.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

I hate this album. That is all.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

I love this so much.

I had to double-check that "Forever for Her" wasn't actually a Stones song that I downloaded accidentally. I've been a little surprised that people compare them to Zeppelin so often considered how stripped down they are. It's mostly supposed to be in the voice, yes? But I do see it a bit in "My Doorbell". Kinda like late Zep pop-rock as done by two kids in the basement?

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:30 (twenty years ago)

I tend to think of the Violent Femmes going for Zep rather than Zep itself going somewhere. And yeah its mainly in White's Plantisms.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

though Meg pulls the occasional "Ocean" beat.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

'Cos Meg ain't beating out many Bonhamisms! (ha VF going for Zep is brilliant.)

haha xpost Really?! Isn't that one in 5 against 4?!

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

I've listened to this about 5 times today at work, and I love it. Their best work yet.

buck van morrison (Buck Van Smack), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)

This album rules!!

Much better than Elephant. Not that Elephant was bad.

Actually, I'm only 2/3 way through -- listening right now. Bought it yesterday after work but then I was so tired and stressed my next stop after that was the bar and then to bed. So, first proper listen going on now. I'm on "Instinct Blues" -- much better than all the naysaying reviewers had made it out to be...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)

um, I don't know if I can pull a tech ref on it (five on the whatnow?) but she swings behind the beat sometimes. I know there's some song or two on the new album I thought of "The Ocean."

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

and Sundar OTM -- "Forever For Her" does sound very slow-Stones-circa-Sticky Fingers, I was thinking the same thing.

"My Doorbell" is awesome. That's gotta be the next single.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

Miccio, that's exactly what was going through my head too. I knew there was a Zep sound going on.

buck van morrison (Buck Van Smack), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

The beat in "My Doorbell" is kind of "Ocean"-ic actually. I guess what I think of when I think of "The Ocean" is the cross-rhythm between the guitar and drum lines.

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

"Ugly As I Seem" is as pretty a quiet, acoustic song as the Stones ever did.

PB, Thursday, 9 June 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

never been a fan, but I think I like it.
OTM the Zeppelin and Stones comparisons: in a slightly fucked-up way.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

jack makes his first contact with a black person in the booklet.

mwahaahwah, Thursday, 9 June 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

...and "My doorbell" sounds a bit like the Steve Miller Band...

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

i thought it was obvious that they blatantly sounded like led zep on the earlier albums?

palptean mist, Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I've never been a huge White Stripes fan, but I'm curious to hear what they've done on this. I've always thought that the White Stripes had potential, but somehow it never quite clicked with me. Since everyone who loved their older stuff hates this, maybe they've made that little adjustment that will make me finally get into them. Chances are they haven't, but I'm curious.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

My goodness. I love this record. I love everything they've released and this is right up there with their best.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

"As Ugly As I Seem" actually reminds me a bit of the Velvets' "Lady Godiva's Operation". I can't say whether the album's better than Elephant. That was a great full-on rock album, this is a great rootsy sprawl.

(I can also see how something like "Instinct Blues" has sort of the blues-noise dirge feel of some early Zep.)

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

i can never remember how "as ugly as i seem" goes cuz as soon as i think of/see the title i think of keef's "as wicked as it seems" and it gets stuck in my head.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

i have to say, this isnt as big a departure as i had hoped. its still good though, theres another song with a riff like my doorbell later in the album oddly, which is a bit of a shame, but its still good. the other thing about this album is that the songs do seem a bit bitty, but theyre still good. its like jack white is recording shit like prince these days, ultra fast, but not always finishing things off properly. but overall, this isnt THAT big of a suprise, its just some new twists and turns to the usual stripes ouvre.

blahbariantheoriginal, Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

i can never remember how "as ugly as i seem" goes cuz as soon as i think of/see the title i think of keef's "as wicked as it seems" and it gets stuck in my head.

OTM!

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

it's not enough, it's not enough for me...

rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

I loved Keith's through-the-celeb-culture-looking-glass Village Voice review. (Now "Janie Jones" is playing in my head for some reason.) This passage completely captures what makes the band enduringly weird:

"Even with the marimba flourishes and thudding piano that expand his rhythmic and dynamic range, White never colors carelessly outside the blocky lines that Meg, bless her metronomic heart, stolidly provides. At their core, after all, the White Stripes remain a wickedly righteous design scheme: a perfectly realized minimalist art project that rocks."

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 10 June 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

is this coming out on LP?

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 10 June 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

x-post

Actually, at his best, I like to think of Jack as a delivery system for Meg White.

Her beats are astoundingly great. Dude, the Violent Femmes aren't known for their bass drum...

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 10 June 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

"My Doorbell" is FUCKING MAGNIFICENT.

Jetlag Willy (noodle vague), Friday, 10 June 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

This is rubbish, but very entertaining rubbish. I predict the French media are even now proclaiming it a masterpiece. And its sure to turn up 20 tears from now in an Unknown Pleasures-style book of lost classics and curios.

Kinda like late Zep pop-rock as done by two kids in the basement?
This describes a lot of the LP very well.

I like "Take, Take, Take" best so far.

Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

Does Dylan get a credit on "Little Ghost" ? It sounds as much like "I Believe in You" as Flaming Lips "Fight Test" does Cat Stevens "Father and Son."

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Mark, I think you mean "As Ugly As I Seem," and almost every review of the album has mentioned Dylan's song, as almost every Yoshimi review mentioned "Father and Son."

But, and having never heard Dylan's song enough to criticise any similarities, "As Ugly As I Seem" may be the best song Jack White has written. It's lovely.

PB, Friday, 10 June 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

o. nate and other curious parties -- you can stream the album here.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

("20 tears" in my last post = 20 *years* of course. Then again...)

Does anyone agree this album could have been mixed better? The sound is matt where it really should be gloss. (Same goes for the CD booklet - instead of that nice photo at the top of this thread on glossy paper you get a really muddy reproduction of it on card.)

Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

is this coming out on LP?

Supposedly it will be released on vinyl as a one-take live version of the album.

PB, Friday, 10 June 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Hmm -- apparently my MP3 tags are messed up. "As Ugly As I Seem" it is.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 10 June 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I've only heard half of this album two times so far, but I can't seem to find any reason to complain about it at all.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 June 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

is it just me or does jack sound a lot like kurt cobain in "red rain"?

That One Guy (That One Guy), Saturday, 11 June 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

i like this but find some of it a bit sketchy, spontaneous yeah, but a bit rushed all the same. i also seem to think it a bit amateurish at times, not sure why.

blahbariantheoriginal, Saturday, 11 June 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

Jeff W - I totally agree with you. The mix on the album is not "bright" at all. Although I did hear an interview with Jack White on NPR where he commented on the mix of the album, something new they tried and result was being warmer than other albums...

Marc B, Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

i wonder how that one-take LP version will sound

That One Guy (That One Guy), Saturday, 11 June 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

anyone else notice that my doorbell gets an unofficial 'part 2' a couple of songs down the line? bit of a waste of a track there....

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 11 June 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

On first listen I think I have to say they've broken their "improving with every record" run. Still a good album all the same. My wife and I are split on My Doorbell, she thinks it's annoyingly repetitive and over long, I love it.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 11 June 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

There may be songs from other albums that I enjoy more than the ones on Satan, but overall this might be my favorite album front to back....

We'll see how things change down the line.

PB, Saturday, 11 June 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand how they manage to do Zeppelin in such a pleasing way that it doesn't make me want to yell "RIPOFFS!" They're very artful and careful about it, unlike LCD Soundsystem's blatant Zep ripoff "Never As Tired..."

I know this will probably bother anti-Buckleyites here, but of all the bands/artists around today, I think White Stripes do Jeff Buckley proud. I mean if he were still alive today I can so see him doing this kind of thing, and there were spots on Elephant that reminded me of him as well.

"I'm Lonely" is a bit overwrought for me, and Meg doesn't exactly have the best singing ability on "Passive Manipulation", but it's a simple and short tune that adds to the variety here. "Blue Orchid" is a little more catchy than I'd like to admit. Not that great of a song, really, but damn if it doesn't get stuck in my head. Overall these are minor quibbles. This is a very satisfying album, and I'm glad I went down to the shop and bought it the old fashioned way.

Fabulous sleeve/booklet artwork too!!!

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 June 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Except that Jeff Buckley had no sense of humor.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 12 June 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha. I assume you're being sarcastic!

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 June 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

White Stripes do Jeff Buckley proud

What an odd comparison....I don't see anything in Jeff's work that would have pointed to anything Jack White does..


PB, Sunday, 12 June 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Robert Plant impersonations

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 12 June 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

blues explosion

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 12 June 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

this shit is good, yo

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 13 June 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

I am decidedly not impressed. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 13 June 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

Orbit!

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 13 June 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

awesome record.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 13 June 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

it really is. blimey. their best yet.

Masked Gazza, Monday, 13 June 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

"Except that Jeff Buckley had no sense of humor."

The White Stripes do? I mean, I don't know; I'm asking. I hadn't noticed it in what I've heard.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 13 June 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

they have a ditty or two on each album that's sort of whimsical and humorous. Plus their whole image is a running gag, to some degree.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 13 June 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

It's not a funny gag, though. I mean, it's about as funny as a Target commercial.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 13 June 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

that is also true

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 13 June 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
http://jv.gilead.org.il/FAQ/pics/Meliesmoon.jpg
DUDE FROM WHITE STRIPES HIT IN EYE WITH SPACESHIP?!?!?!

3, Friday, 15 July 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Earlier in this thread I had mentioned Jeff Buckley. That seemed to confound some folks. Although Miccio was learned enough to note that Buckley did indeed do Robert Plant impersonations even just for comedic effect as between-song banter, as is documented on "Live At Sin E".

It has been said many times that Buckley actually was singing Led Zeppelin as he swam to his death in the Mississippi River. I see no reason to doubt such reports. No one to my knowledge has disputed them.

If one wishes to hear Buckley at his MOST Led Zep, I recommend a few songs on the posthumous "Songs To No One: 1991-1992" release, which with all due respect he might not have accomplished without ex-Beefheart musician Gary Lucas' fine guitar playing. Still, one must hear "Harem Man" & "Cruel" from this CD and THEN scoff at White Stripes/Led Zep/Jeff Buckley comparisons. That is all.

And by the way, "Get Behind Me Satan" is easily one of the best albums of the year. Maybe "Elephant" really was this good and I just don't recall correctly, but I doubt it.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

or, you know, just check out his cover of "Night Flight" (which is awesome)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Yes, you are correct. I'm quite sorry. I find it painful to listen to things like that. I avoid it because I miss him so. Thanks.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Seeing them play this live at Glastonbury (on TV) really put me off bothering to hear this.

"My Doorbell" is really drab for them. I hear it and wish Meg would leave that cymbal alone, not hit it *constantly* throughout! Her drumming doesn't usually irritate me in the slightest.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

I really want to see the vinyl promo album cover stevie mentions waaaayyy upthread^^^.....

Loving it so much too though, miles more than most of Elephant (though never really fell for most of it like with the first 3 records). Glad I'm not the only one who thought of De Stijl when I first heard this too, even if I can't exactly work out *why* i did. some of this album feels like I'm hearing them for the first time all over again (eg 'The Nurse')...
'Lets Shake Hands' slayed every other track (new & old) in that Glasto [tv] set though, imho..

Jon Benet Taxidermy (piratestyle), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Even though I've probably heard this album about 12 times so far over several weeks, and certainly enjoyed it quite a bit, it's only tonight I've decided I am completely obsessed with it. No it isn't perfect, never said it was. But hey...you could do worse. I actually endured the sound of Lynard Skynard in a bar tonight with a friend. TWICE I endured Skynard. I can do anything.

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Saturday, 30 July 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Hey, this is pretty good so far.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 1 October 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

I have only hear White Orchid and I like it enough but I can't stand the "whoooo" sound Jack makes about halfway into the song.

Headlights,white lines, black tar rivers (feminazi), Saturday, 1 October 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
Finally got this (a present for my wife for Xmas)...anyway..it's GOOD! I really like all the songs where he plays more piano....overall, aside from maybe Instinct Blues and the Meg singing song, it's pretty great!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

the meg singing song is only 25 seconds long, fortunately!

gear (gear), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
One year later, what's the sentiment toward this one?

magnagardner (New Media Intern), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

i still like it.

M@tt He1geson, Rendolent Ding-Dong (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Weren't they supposed to do a vinyl release of this after they had toured the songs? I can't find any evidence that this ever happened. Bummer.

I still like the album, but I think I kinda wore it out after awhile, wasn't as interesting after a certain number of plays.

Lenny Koggins (Bimble...), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

i still love this record. 'forever for her is over for me' is the best thing jack's ever done.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 07:32 (nineteen years ago)

> Weren't they supposed to do a vinyl release of this after they had toured the songs?

something was listed, i think, in this week's Sister Ray mailout. 'alt versions' i think it said and was def vinyl.

ha, here:
http://www.sisterray.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=121922&osCsid=5c76b01836a49316c9fdd93bbe0182d8

stunningly short on details 8)

koogy wonderland (koogs), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

having that!

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

thinking its seriously one of the great albums of all time.

I actually just listened to it this past Saturday! in fact, when I saw this thread in new answers I assumed I must have drunkenly revived it...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

Still their best.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

yes.

Alicia Fucking Silverstone (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

def. one of their best, my favorite since De Stijl. White Blood Cells is the weak one.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

bah.
decidedly the worst.
easily.
makes me want to listen to Stephen Malkmus solo stuff.
yeah, it's that bad...

edde (edde), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

> Weren't they supposed to do a vinyl release of this after they had toured the songs?
something was listed, i think, in this week's Sister Ray mailout. 'alt versions' i think it said and was def vinyl.

ha, here:
http://www.sisterray.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=121922&osCsid=5c76b01836a49316c9fdd93bbe0182d8

stunningly short on details 8)

-- koogy wonderland (il...) (webmail), Tuesday 9:32 AM. (later) (link)


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having that!
-- mark grout (mark.grou...) (webmail), Tuesday 9:56 AM. (later) (link)

It just arrived (blimey, quick or what!)

It looks like a bootleg. It could be an official issue to get round the 'promise' of an alternative version as stated previously. I don't know.

It's a compilation of radio session and/or live versions of all the tracks, same running order, different versions you see?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Here is what it looks like:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/White-Stripes-get-behind-me-satan_W0QQitemZ220006254834QQihZ012QQcategoryZ2262QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Whenevr I listen to this (or "Elephant") it sounds like an absolute classic. But I find I have to force myself to put it on. I have no idea what that means.

totph (Totph), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

probably my least favorite WS album, but it has a handful of great tracks.

Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 13 July 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch, Mark. That record has a crap cover. So is it any good? How is the sound quality?

Lenny Koggins (Bimble...), Thursday, 13 July 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Heh. The main photo used on the cover of that vinyl LP is available on RollingStone.com (here). It's from the White Stripes' September 22, 2005 show in Boston (coincidentally, I was looking at those pics myself earlier today). So, yeah, I'm pretty certain it is a bootleg. Sorry, man.

How does it sound, though? Any good? Does it have any details about each track? I wonder if whoever created that LP took the songs from live recordings circulating of shows from the White Stripes' 2005-2006 tour for GBMS off of sites like Dimeadozen.org or something. Hmm... Probably.

I wish Jack and Meg would've actually released the live vinyl version of Get Behind Me Satan they had promised. It doesn't look like that's ever gonna happen. :(

Mama Roux (Mama Roux), Friday, 14 July 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

When I saw them in Chicago last year on the tour, the first half of the set was just Get Behind Me Satan in its entirety from start to finish .... then a brief intermission, then old songs ..

I never even bothered to inquire, but .. were the other stops on the tour like that?

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 14 July 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

You know what gets me is from what I've heard of Jack & Meg's attitude toward downloading, they'd probably be hopping mad if they knew about that LP. But hey, they said they were going to do this and didn't, so what do they expect?

Lenny Koggins (Bimble...), Friday, 14 July 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

fourteen years pass...

This has aged better than I thought, but it's also just an odd, not quite there album in a lot of ways. Doorbell and denial twist are more tolerable now but they really are infuriating to listen to and still sound quite contrived in their 'catchiness'. They manage to be both irritatingly chipper while also strangely leaden. Or is it that the piano is a bit out of tune? Idk.

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