― Nick Sylvester, Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)
― Gypsy King (Twilight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:25 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:25 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:25 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)
― H (Heruy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)
― PONY (hstencil), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)
― metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)
You're just jealous of my wit.
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)
IE GET YOURSELF A FUCKING GOOD SHRINK
IE BETTER THAN MINE
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)
...
I have to see her tomorrow.
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)
That said, mixtapes should really be bought on the sidewalk. Keep it real!
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)
― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Thursday, 9 June 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)
― On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 9 June 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 9 June 2005 06:20 (twenty years ago)
"I fought the law...and the law won"
― Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 9 June 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)
― Nick Sylvester, Thursday, 9 June 2005 06:42 (twenty years ago)
yeah, fwiw i used to get way more attitude from the dumbass teenagers who rang up my dinosaur-rock cds at the wiz. every other transaction i've had at kim's has resulted in the clerk saying something like "hey, great record! i didn't know this got reissued!" or "did you know these guys are playing tomorrow night?" or "wasn't this the dude that used to be in _____?" mr. kim may be a prick, but i've never had a bad experience with his employees.
― metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 06:56 (twenty years ago)
hmmm, I take that back. I guess that isn't so odd, is it?
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)
Word. I don't remember one unpleasant conversation with a Kim's/OM/Etherea record store clerk, and I spent a lot of time in those establishments. At worst the cashier would silently take my $ and bag my record, but it never felt personal.
I get much more attitude at Vintage Vinyl in STL.
― mike a, Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)
i was in there yesterday—looking at, erm, porno selections. After about three minutes of discrete browsing, my shoulder was tapped, and I nearly jumped out of my skin to see that the tapper was a shorts clad cop. "Had porno become illegal as of 12:30pm?" I thought for a split second…
He told me to leave the store immediately— the clerks on the third floor were lined up, as were their counterparts on the second and ground floors.
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)
totally. there are complaints about other, as well, and i've always been treated well there. bitch all you want about the aggressive record store employee, but the aggressive record dork customer is always gonna be worse.
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)
Vintage Vinyl in Jersey is clerked exclusively by assholes.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
― mike a, Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)
I have never EVER been able to get anyone to sell me anything at that kiosk, and gave up all hope of trying ages ago. NOBODY IS EVER THERE.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)
― Beta (abeta), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)
― nabiscothingy (nory), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
My advice: run uptown and rent bootleg "The High Life" (BBC, 1995) before it goes away forever!
― nabiscothingy (nory), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
― mosurock (mosurock), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
Really? Those folks were always really friendly to me. (Although I guess I did see 'em be kind of dick-y to some other folks.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)
― Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
― Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
I think it's because people see the hairdo's and the attitude and think, "hey, this person is cool like me," and then become miffed that the person doesn't want to immediately be their friend in the middle of their boring shift at low-paying job.
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
the thing about arresting the clerks is simple and bizarre: there are a number of blue law statutes (and that type of thing) that make the clerk/bartender type responsible rather than the business itself. it's one of those things that makes me shake my head about political "scientists" who still by any notion of pluralism - that is, that the little guy doesn't get screwed over most of the time on the bigger guys behalf.
i could've been arrested for renting porn to minors while i was still at the store, and nothing would've happened to the store itself. in fact, in PA i broke "pandering" laws by "recommending" porn titles to customers. heavy civil disobedience!
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)
uh, no, not even remotely.
― jersey, Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
― carly (carly), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
― feminazi (feminazi), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
― Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― b b, Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
― b b, Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)
― feminazi (feminazi), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)
-- feminazi (feminaz...) (webmail), June 9th, 2005 12:26 PM. (feminazi) (later) (link)
I mean that's just seriously ghetto.
I'm not sure what the intent was here.
― Cool Hand Luuke (ex machina), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
― noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
OK, I'll go into detail on another thread, but the irony here is so fucking high, I can't control myself.
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)
― noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
Once again, Hip Hop fucks things up for everyone. Thanks alot, shitty Hip Hop.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)
― Dude of Death, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)
self?
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)
the one guy who was (a) rather rude and (b) sort of a genius about asian cinema at the smaller kim's died last year or t he year before last.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
― Dude of Death, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
-- o. nate (syne_wav...), June 9th, 2005. (later)------------------------------------------------------------------------
yeah, it's obviously hip-hop's fault, Alex, not shady business practice nor an overzealous watchdog group.
Learn to know when I'm joking.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)
Learn how to use emoticons or learn to deal with the misinterpretations if you refuse to use emoticons.
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
― b b, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
No. Cancer, I believe.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
Went home. Checked. Stew Copeland WAS in Curved Air. THAT FUCKER WAS WRONG!
PS: Curved Air fucking SUCK!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)
Emoticons are for pantsless chat room predators.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine. Exposing ambitious careerists as charlatans since 1986. (East, Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)
Don't pick on the Kim's peops, they're goddamned superheroes and you should be grateful that this town has something that even approaches 1/4 of an Amoeba. If they close you'll probably not see a store that size again in this town unless it opens in Long Island or something. These peops are up against a lot working that joint, I can vouch having been there circa 95-96.
― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)
I'm totally with you here, Brian, but why would it really take that long a time for another record store or chain thereof to open again in NYC? Is there just an interminable permit/business license wait? Retail real estate is even more astronomical? Because if Border's or Barnes & Nobles in Soho can do well, Amoeba could *kill* there.. (not to try to wish on anything that would hurt Other Music or what have you.).. but since I don't know about the business of creating a retail business in records in NYC - Manhattan, specifically -- I thought I'd ask.
― donut e-goon (donut), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), June 9th, 2005.
HahahahaHA! [Shakes head admiringly]
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)
― On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)
― On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)
FWIW, the mixtape vendors on 14th & 6th (SW side of the street) are always there. They're the best. Just stand in front of their CD rack and one of them will pop out and help you.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)
no no it's the peeps locked up although i heard they are out now. the store was open again last nite!
― noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
I fail to see the heroism.
― Cool Hand Luuke (ex machina), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)
― utterly without pants (m0stly clean), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)
― Cool Hand Luuke (ex machina), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)
So when's the police auction?
― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)
― feminazi (feminazi), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)
― concentric, Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)
― urban in nature (deangulberry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)
― nabiscothingy, Friday, 10 June 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)
If this raid prevents at least one hip hop artist from releasing a record it was worth it.
― feminazi (feminazi), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)
the whole point is that mixtapes are selling because they're better than anything the labels have to sell. these aren't bootlegs, and a really good mix doesn't sound like piracy, it sounds new. five arrested!
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)
--- In nyhappenings@yahoogroups.com, Brian Turner wrote:> Not tax evasion, according to MTV.com:> -brian> > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1503863/20050609/50_cent.jhtml?headlines=true> > New York police, in cooperation with the RIAA, arrested five employees of > Kim's Video . one of the East Village's most beloved independent video and > music stores . during a Wednesday afternoon raid that netted 500 pirated > CD-Rs.
Where is the disconnect that has the employees and not owners getting nabbed? I suppose you could say the buyers are as guilty as Mr. Kim himself, but the underpaid clerks?
> Those arrested were charged with trademark counterfeiting, and police also > seized 27 music DVDs, nine DVD burners and several store computers. All of > the CD-Rs and DVDs were described by an RIAA spokesperson as "urban in > nature" . mixtapes, featuring music by artists such as 50 Cent, Nelly, > Alicia Keyes and Jay-Z.
Thank god it's urban in nature...I'd hate to see Vini Reilly get any money from the Durutti Column DVD I just bought. And yes, like many of Kim's bootleg DVDs, it's glitchy. I had to return the krautrock DVD and have never had the chance to see the La Dusseldorf video. They're getting what they deserve.
kidding, of course.
The sad truth being bootleg mixtapes are one illegal medium that can be said to introduce people to an artist, and lead to an actual purchase. Go after bootleg copies of the record if you want, but leave the mixtape/CD alone!
dan
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)
i dont know, maybe its four months being in a town with only a wal mart, maybe its realizing that amazing peices of music are being held randsome or ignored, maybe its endless, fucking record companies stealing from artists, maybe its becuase im so sick and fucking tired of not hearing anything new, maybe its because no one thinks that someone cannot like hip hop and chart country and bach and eveything else--but the sheer agreesiveness in destroying the puryveyours of digital media, they wont win--the rabbit is out of the hat.
FUCK EM
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)
Analog LOL.
http://hometown.aol.com/heartsinexile/true-cassette-front.jpg
― feminazi (feminazi), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)
Police Raid Video Store in East Village in Piracy Case
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)
I see the mtv link, but where are the other two?
~C
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 10 June 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)
― Jon Whitney Houston, Friday, 10 June 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)
I wonder if this has had a sudden effect on the stock at other nearby stores.
― dlp9001, Friday, 10 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)
My video store is TLA; no attitude at all.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 June 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
So so so so otm.
― Jesse Dorris (rubber gloves), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)
― cdwill, Friday, 10 June 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)
Mixtapes: Before We Had A Cluehttp://www.mtv.com/bands/m/mixtape/news_feature_021003/index7.jhtml
All the links on the right column will give you a sense of the picture, especially in context with their story on the Kim's raid.
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 10 June 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)
There will always be lemonade stands.
― donut e-goon (donut), Friday, 10 June 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Friday, 10 June 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)
looks like he was arrested, according to the NYT.
hopefully this will result in a loud, ungainly, terrible noise in weeks to come.
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)
― strng hlkngtn, Friday, 10 June 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)
if they have any clue whatsoever, they'll drop these charges before this becomes a Negativland level debacle
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
prophetic
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)
Meanwhile, at Other Music...
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
― strng hlkngtn, Friday, 10 June 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)
A few months or 20 years?
― Mr. Serious, Friday, 10 June 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)
this happened to my friend bj who used to work at midnight records about a year ago.
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)
Dude went way out of his way (in a nice way) to sell me a Sunroof! CD, though...if that counts.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)
― something about a tarantula coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)
from an employee there:
Subject: Yes, i was arrested and in jail....for working at Kim's AllheadersDear Loving Friends,On June 8, 2005, i along w/ 4 other Kim's employees werearrested during a raid on Kim's. The RIAA hired some pigsto come and bust the store, the arrest was totatllyarbitary. They were supoosed to be busting down onbootlegs, thanks to the media exposure on Star Warsbootlegs (it happened to be a live 50 cent concert, so ifhe was involved in any way FUCK 50 Cent!). They took mesince i am the manager on the 2nd floor. Mr. Kim was nowhere to be found.The store was shut down, employees lined up, a few of usgot cuffed w/out being told we are being arrested and without utilzing our miranda rights. We were taken to theholding cell, where we waited approx 5 hrs before theyfingerprinted us and put us into a chain gang to take usdowntown (despite them telling us they were going to giveus desk passes so we would not have to spend the night injail...FUCK THE POLICE!!!). So we went downtown, beforehand they confisicated our cellphones and thanks to technology, was not able to memorizeanyone's phone numbers. The pigs still have my cellphone & ipod. So we got put into a pen w/ a bunch ofother dudes. The cells were packed constantly, filled w/30 or so people at a time, having 10 bull pens down there,body heat made things harder in the dank cells. Hours later i was separted from the rest of my co-workersand put into a different cell, separated from the one guywhom had the name & number to the Kim's lawyer. Thosewhom don't know, i have a hard time w/ authority. i spent 30+ hrs in jail for working at Kim's. All theother employees were released from there cells before me, ihad a panic attack that was prompted by all this stress,not eating (jail is not really vegan friendly) nor sleepingthe entire time i was in. i got really claustrophobic,thought everyone was stealing my air (for those who live inNY, the jail cell was 10x hotter then the 2nd ave. F stop)my heartrate doubled, i couldn't breath and i started tocrack. i started to waddle back and forth like orphans dofrom not being mothered long enough or at all.My man Jerry Lim, whom is the only numbered i remembered,for we call each other every day. He worked his ass offto help me out, big ups for Lim, whne you see him, hug himand buy him a drink. Calling mutual friends whom havelawyers and money to help bail me out. The CorrectionOfficers were very reluctant to help him help me out in anyway. When i bummed a quarter off a fellow inmate, i was at thepoint of cracking, mumbling w/ the entire cell yelling andoverall carrying on like it was a party for them. Somealso had arbitrary arrests, like walking through the parkat night or some for more "serious" crimes like sellingweed. i would like to take this moment to give Guiliani &Bloomberg a big fuck you! i can honestly say i hate thesemen. Hours later, at a point i was almost convinced i was goingto spend 72 hrs or more in jail (they can legally hold youfor 72 hrs, but if it falls on the weekend, you stay overthe weekend regardless), i got called, went to myarrainment and senteced to one day of community service. i was arrested apparently for making and distrobutingbootleg material (a felony offense aka your going toRykers), which is not true, obviously. Charges werelowered to a misdeamor and i was sentenced to a day ofcommunity service. That was a relief in a since. Youcan only imagine how intensely pissede i am at Mr. Kim atthis moment and was ready to quit when i go out. Below isa clipping from NY Times, which article helped speed up ourarrainment (so i hear). Mr. Kim is supposedly turninghimself in on monday, i have no idea was it going out (thatis how it was the entire time i was locked up, the pigsliked to keep you in the dark). So, i am sorry i can't call everyone right now, but ithought this may be best way for mass communication. Needless to say i hate cops even more now and have evenless faith in the united states legal system. Thanks for all your support. Hope to see you all soon.luv,chu
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 June 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine comes explosive! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 11 June 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 11 June 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)
-- Alex in SF (clobberthesauru...) (webmail), June 10th, 2005.
Every single employee there can be charged with conspiracy to infringe copyright, which is a felony. About half the people convicted of that charge do in fact get some prison time.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 11 June 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Saturday, 11 June 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)
Yes, I realize that. I just don't think they will in this case. But I've been surprised before.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 11 June 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)
― strng hlkngtn, Saturday, 11 June 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)
Fuck this sucks.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 11 June 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)
I'm really hoping Chris Ryan, who used to do some posting here and writes for Spin among others, wasn't among the 5. (I'm hoping everyone wasn't among the 5, though obviously this is impossible.) This is just horrible. The minute they set up a legal defense fund, I'm contributing. I've bought too many good records there to not do it.
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)
The employees charged with counterfeiting were identified as Theo Frimpong, 39, of the Bronx; Diana Kinscherf, 19, of Queens; Donald Stahl, 26, and Charles Bettis, 29, both of Brooklyn; and Craig Willingham, 32, of Manhattan.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 11 June 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)
Wasn't there a case where a store was raided for bootlegs, the store sued back, and the store won the suit? (I thought the story was posted here, but I tried searching, but to no avail. I'll ask my other resources.)
That Mr. Kim is "supposedly going to turn himself in" statement is really interesting, which leads me to believe three scenarios:
a) boots of 50 cent or other stuff were being made/manufactured at the store
b) kim's did not make the bootlegs, had the questionable stuff in stock, and were the unlucky target of a raid, and can't deal with the legal costs to fight this, or
c) kim's did not make the bootlegs, had the questionable stuff in stock, and were the unlucky target of a raid, however many other facets of Mr. Kim's manner of operating his stores has already opened a can of worms, so to speak, and he's just giving up.
I'm inclined to believe "c" right now.
But that "supposedly" up there must be stressed. Perhaps Kim will legally fight back. I can't imagine why he wouldn't, to be frank, if he's got nothing to lose.. unless that can of worms is a really big can.
Legit large stores across the country are probably going to follow Amoeba's lead, unfortunately... however, this is only going to concentrate the bootleg/mix market to smaller more underground operations, and -- most of all -- the internet.
If the RIAA thought that this was going to help squash the bootleg/mix market, they basically splattered the market into a gazillion other channels that will only get more syncopated and harder for them to crack. They basically did the equivalent of spraying ants on a kitchen table, with the bigger goal of wanting to eventually destroy the ant species. Haha. Just when I thought the RIAA did the stupidest move yet, along comes *thee* stupidest move yet.
― donut e-goon (donut), Saturday, 11 June 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 11 June 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 11 June 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)
I have to leave this thread for a while. MY BLOOD IS BOILING.
― donut e-goon (donut), Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)
One of my local CD chains has only just started carrying mixtapes. I thought about warning the clerks at the one I frequent about the raid, but I figure they wouldn't know enough (and tell me 'oh we only sell legal mixtapes,' ha) and they aren't big enough to be on anyone's radar.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)
I'm so lonely in NC
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 12 June 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)
refer to countless DOJ press releases (news, speeches, etc) from Ashcroft that mention that piracy, much like buying drugs, eventually puts money into the hands of terrorists in the middle east (no I'm not joking)
re: kim fighting back legally
I don't understand this? he comitted a crime and the authorities are punishing him as the law states they should - how exactly does he fight this legally?
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 12 June 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)
― feminazi (feminazi), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)
So you know he committed a crime? What crime was it then, in this case?
Last I checked, having bootlegs in one's record store is not a crime -- at least according to the previous court case ruling I saw on this.
― donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)
― metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)
I was wondering about the general legality of selling bootlegs. How much burden of proof rests on the seller? If someone comes in with a box of professional-looking CDs - color artwork, copyright info, etc., claiming to be a new independent distributor/label, how am I supposed to know if the music has been cleared?
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)
haha dude's in jail and all he can think about is whether a cow was inconvenienced during the making of his cheese sandwich?
― metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)
― metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)
http://www.ussc.gov/2001guid/2b5_3.htm
§2B5.3.Criminal Infringement of Copyright or Trademark
it doesn't actually have a section that clearly states that selling bootlegs constitutes "criminal infringement of copyright." in fact, "criminal infringement of copyright" isn't defined within the law. one point to counter this though:
(3)If the offense was not committed for commercial advantage or private financial gain, decrease by 2 levels, but the resulting offense level shall be not less than level 8.
there is no denying that mixtapes (and from this thread discussion, I presume numerous other products) are in fact copyright infringing items (as defined in the text). so, by the language of this law, it seems as though it was drafted assuming that the copyright infringement it exists to punish is for the purpose of making money -- ie, selling bootlegs. as for your court case, I haven't heard about that, so I really don't have anything to add, except...
http://www.cybercrime.gov/singh2Sent.htm
here's a case of a dude who (quote): Kishan Singh, 33 of Lanham, Maryland, was sentenced by the Honorable T.S. Ellis, III, United States District Judge in the Eastern District of Virginia, for distributing pirated software over the Internet in violation of federal criminal copyright infringement laws. Kishan Singh previously pled guilty to a single count Information on October 14, 2004, charging him with infringement of a copyright. [...] Kishan Singh operated a pay-for-access website through which he offered pirated copies of business software which had been altered by the removal of copyright protection devices.
this was as recent as january 7th. what difference is there between operating a store that sells copyright infringing items on the internet, or in some two story space in nyc? like kim, this guy didn't crack the software himself or in any other way manufacture the infringing items. he only sold them. the only difference I can imagine is that this dude in the above article got the extra 2 points tacked onto his sentence for uploading infringing items on the internet. score!
also...
http://www.cybercrime.gov/tobolskySent.htm
another guy selling cracked software.
and finally...
http://www.cybercrime.gov/rodriguezArrest.htm
here's one that really resembles the story with kim! DAVID N. KELLEY, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, announced that ALEX RODRIGUEZ was arrested today on federal charges stemming from his alleged sale of, and supplying others with, pirated computer software in Manhattan.
According to a criminal Complaint unsealed today, RODRIGUEZ operated a stand on East 14th Street in Manhattan, from which he sold unauthorized copies of copyrighted computer software. According to the Complaint, in July and August 2004, RODRIGUEZ, operating from this stand, twice sold pirated software to an undercover FBI agent. On one of those occasions, the Complaint alleges, RODRIGUEZ sold an illegal copy of Macromedia Flash MX – a program related to Web site development that normally retails for approximately $499 – to the undercover agent for $30.
in the above 3 cases, their sentences haven't been decided yet, so I can't say that they are headed to prison, although it is likely.
what I can say is this: here's 3 recent cases very similar to kim's. if these guys all got busted (and convicted in a court) then I don't see what hope kim really has other than fleeing the country rather than turning himself in.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)
-- donut e-goon (do...), June 12th, 2005 12:45 AM.
from the articles i've read, they confiscated burners in the raid and the charges are that they were not only selling them but making them.
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)
That's exactly the criteria used by the defense in that court case I'm referring to where the store won, if I recall it correctly.
Not that I've ever been to jail to experience jailfood firsthand, but if you haven't eaten meat in a long time, and you're forced to eat third-rate meat in a JAIL SETTING, the last thing you want to add to your anxieties is indigestion -- especially in that setting, where you probably have to shit in a bucket in front of a bunch of other cellmates. And I don't think the guy was given something as glamorous as a cheese sandwich.
Well, you only stated two cases, and provided a link to a law.. but in those two cases, the entire operation was piracy. A record store is not assumed to be all about piracy (if it's anything more than a tent and a table with CDs at a flea market, that is.). And the corollary you quote above is very vague. And also, reread what Milo said.
― donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:09 (twenty years ago)
Well, i obviously wanted hiding in Kim's when this happened, so I can't prove what happened and what didn't. But this is the first I heard about actual evidence of piracy happening at the store. If that is the case, then, yeah, Mr. Kim is SOL. (if the five who were arrested don't get to him first.)
― donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)
ok, so maybe all he sold was bootlegs and nothing legit. kim doesn't sell only bootlegs, but other things also. when it comes to the law, what difference does that make?
if I sell cocaine in my grandmother's handwoven fine art cocaine holding bags, am I not still selling cocaine?
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)
and er, from following it pretty closely the past year, I'd have to say that kim here is fucked. I can't see how his case would be any different from the countless others... the 3 guys cases I pasted above (and there's more) are exactly the same, just dudes selling warez (be that warez music or software, the law sees no differences) which they didn't have anything to do with the manufacture of.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)
But anyway, back to the topic, I haven't been following the Kim situation closely, but if there was active pirating happening on store premises, then again -- Kim is indeed SOL.
― donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)
whether it's NYPD or DOJ, the real man behind the curtain is the RIAA and MPAA. what's strange is who they're working with now. I wonder what the politics behind this change is... is gonzalez not as friendly to spending so many resources on copyright infringement? I doubt that's the case, but wouldn't it be nice!
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)
Hey, we're given news articles. What else are we supposed to assume about Kim's? I was trying to be objective here.. but, hell, I'll stop being objective now, cuz I'm guessing (and I stress the word "guessing") that this sting was triggered by some secret whistleblower who used to work at Kim's, and it was the camelback-breaking straw, so to speak. I can't begin to tell you how many disgruntled ex-Kim's employees I know.. and I live on the opposite coast! So, of course, I would trust Mr. Kim as much as I would trust some meth kids on Broadway to use any money I theoretically gave them to "donate to charity." But, in a court of law, I'm not the judge. Someone who doesn't know Mr. Kim would be.
― donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:25 (twenty years ago)
― donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)
*snip*
Hope to see you all soon.luv,
I like Kim's. Really, I do. They get DVDs a week before everyone else does and has a fine used section. That said, the grammatical errors in this e-mail do little to enddear me to their staff, whom [sic] regardless of innocence or guilt, ARE dicks.
― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)
pass the mustard, dear.
― donut e-goon (donut), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)
if you're getting busted for warez, try to get the FBI to do it instead of the NYPD. the FBI are generally pretty nice about it and all, considering, but the NYPD put you in jail for a few days.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 12 June 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 12 June 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
That's great/
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 16 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
http://villagevoice.com/music/0525,sylvester,65083,22.html
― xhuxk, Thursday, 16 June 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 June 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)
given what Sanneh says about Atlantic, TVT, Tommy Boy, and Interscope's sending contributions for Faison's funeral fund, I wonder--if Sony's behind the Kim's bust, does that mean there'll be some kind of inter-record label beef now?
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)
I've been a bit unnerved at this whole situation since, and -- despite my better judgement in shoving it off in the wake of Katrina and other more important things to think about -- I'm curious if this is just going to be forgotten or not.
any day now, sure. just like they'll clean up canal street.
Eerily prophetic.
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)
Granted, it's just one source. I never heard of Contact Music before. Maybe this is bullshit. *shrug*
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
so I know the rental vid collection is moving, but is the St Marks retail biz just closing up rather than relocating?
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)
they closed the Uptown one
― gabbneb, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:44 (seventeen years ago)
the way I understand it, the whole rental collection is being sold. the rest of the store (vinyl, CDs, DVDs for sale) is moving to 1st Ave
http://racked.com/archives/2008/10/14/discontinued_is_st_marks_place_losing_mondo_kims.php
― dmr, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:54 (seventeen years ago)
:(
― SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)
oh wait not sold, they're trying to find someone to "adopt" the vid collection and still keep it available (?? seems unlikely)
― dmr, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)
tho u know if i had to choose one im def picking the internet
― SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:56 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, and they want it to be kept as a whole, single collection, which is scaring peopole away.
― mizzell, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)
I rented there for the first time in months last week, and the clerk said they had a buyer for the video-rental collection and it wd be moving to somewhere in the EV.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)
How long before there are no video stores and it's all Netflix and On Demand?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:26 (seventeen years ago)
7 years
― SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Monday, 10 November 2008 18:26 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah I'm thinking it might even be less. Esp. the way streaming video has improved lately.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)
the tubes have to be sorted def but the biggie is the battle for who will deliver the content
― SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Monday, 10 November 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)
huh! well that's good. you obviously have got the more recent update, all I had heard was from a couple of blog posts
― dmr, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:37 (seventeen years ago)
I don't think I ever got a genuine, branded VHS tape from Kim's in all my years of renting there.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)
Argh I have already said this upthread :(
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:45 (seventeen years ago)
I noticed the sign on the 1st ave location just this past saturday. Was confused. Didn't notice if it's open or anything.
― dan selzer, Monday, 10 November 2008 19:16 (seventeen years ago)
1st ave is open, and has been since at least last week.. it's a weird space. Selection looked weak, but they're still moving things from the St. Mark's location I think.
― ian, Monday, 10 November 2008 20:39 (seventeen years ago)
but i just bought my girlfriend a bunch of kim money!
― poortheatre, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:50 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.nomad4ever.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/money_changer_bali_seminyak.jpg
― ian, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:51 (seventeen years ago)
KIM
― poortheatre, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:54 (seventeen years ago)
NO CHEATNO TRICK
― Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:55 (seventeen years ago)
Well it wasn't long ago that everyone was complainin and moanin about the death of the typewriter store, but we seem to get by just fine ordering our typewriters on the internet.
― Albert Jeans (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 01:21 (seventeen years ago)
There will be specialty video stores for the foreseeable future.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 21:01 (seventeen years ago)
maybe in YOUR foreseeable future; some of us have fifty, sixty years ahead of us!
;) ;) xoxoxoxo ;) ;)
― ian, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
Kim Money only buys Kimya Dawson CRAP
― LUTE JOINTS (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 22:29 (seventeen years ago)
last time i was in the st. marks store (a few months ago) it was dispiriting. the used music selection seemed understocked (presumably they're buying a lot less stuff these days) and it all just felt kinda dead.
― tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 23:00 (seventeen years ago)
new Kim's on 1st Ave kinda sucks imo. looks ok for DVDs but barely any vinyl
also it looks like Etherea (former Adult Crash) on Ave A is closing at the end of the month. everything's on sale. the guy behind the counter said the owner is pulling out and he (guy behind counter) is trying to find backers to go partners with and keep the place for himself .... but doesn't have very long to make it happen. didn't seem too likely to work out but maybe I'll be surprised
― dmr, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 23:44 (seventeen years ago)
On the Etherea blog it looks like they're only open by appointment now. Are they really still open generally until the end of the month? I'd like to check out the sales...
― jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 23:54 (seventeen years ago)
I was there last Monday and they were open. I thought I overheard the guy saying he had two or three weeks to get something together
― dmr, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 00:27 (seventeen years ago)
but I can't say 100% yes they're open
― dmr, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 00:28 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-09-12/film/kims-%20video-Sicily/
― am0n, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)
What a fascinating article. It's almost like a Roberto Bolaño novel or something!
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)
yeah pretty interesting. best thing I've read in the Voice in ages.
― dmr, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)
pretty sweet gig for that one guy digitizing everything tho.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)
all three posts ^^^ are otm
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)
just nuts.
I didn't get a Mondo Kim's membership til about 3 months before the end cuz I figured I had FOREVER to watch all their shit. Also p sure I got a snarky rental comment from the pre-"famous" Alex Ross Perry, true to the store rep.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)
i still want to see mr. kim's film.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)
I want to see "his" 55,000 films that he shipped off to FUCKING SICILY.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:33 (thirteen years ago)
get a karagarga invite
― am0n, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:42 (thirteen years ago)
i can understand that the vacation flight was already booked but when she finally got into the collection and met the man digitizing it i wish she'd been like, fuck that flight, i've finally got a source and i'm going to have more than a 2-minute conversation with him about it
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)
yeah kinda. or like, have someone with you who knows English and Italian so you can speak more than five words to each other.
― dmr, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)
don't know how the boyfriend would have felt about sharing a room with a translator though
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:22 (thirteen years ago)
well, it's Karina Longworth.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)
that doesn't mean anything to me morbs. is she famous for writing stories off the back of her vacations?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)
no, but it's a testament to the pull of the Kim's story that even she couldn't screw it up.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)
I really like her writing.
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)
lol this article
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)
v enjoyable
i agree! it's an a amazing story and i'd tell my friends about it if it were me, it's just too bad the vacation logistics ended up trumping the payoff
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)
I think the plot of Expendables 3 should be a commando raid to bring the collection back to Gotham.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)
that actually sounds like the plot of a donald westlake novel, complete with high-speed chase through the streets of new york at the climax.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 15:49 (thirteen years ago)