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Got this yesterday! It's pretty great. Would anybody be interested in me YSI a couple of songs or something?

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Plz!

― oni0n_kid, Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm upping the first track now but it's being extreeemly slow.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

here's the first track:

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=03JM5OGGTPVVC2P860WWDMANS3

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Holy Shit, I didn't even know about this. Thanks so much...

― Nostalgic for the Pre-Conservative Hendrie (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

hari - KEEP IT COMING!

― peter smith (plsmith), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, they weren't kidding when they talked about having the beats 'front and center'. This is pretty goddamn great.

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm uploading track two now, these files are big goddammit!

My favourite so far is 'Street Dude'. Oh man. You wait til you guys hear that.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

where did you get this?

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

someone gave my a YSI of a zip file yesterday

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I've been looking on slsk the past couple days since I found out when it was going to be released- but no luck. Hari, did your zip file happen to include any of the proposed remixes? Supposedly Vladislav Delay and the DFA are doing them for the track "Smiling Off".

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

AH unfortunately not. I'd love to hear DFA take on 'Smiling Off' though.

YSI for that track is nearly done

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

oh shit, was that some NOISE HOUSE in there??

i like what i hear. thanks hari!

― sleep (sleep), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1YS6KIW0MM7371BMBOUA183LCD

here is track 2!

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, Hari- this is amazing. I really thought Hisham's leaving was going to rob them of a lot of the creative momentum they had going, but that is definitely not the case (at least with these two tracks).

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Track 3 is upping at the moment. This next one is really gorgeous, in it's way. Everyone will be pleased to know that 'Twins' (track 7) features handclaps and is obviously awesome.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Here's track 3 "heavy manners"

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=18IBUTRVTY5HS3DIC0LRPWRUMI

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

thanks so much! what's the official release date?

xpost: handclaps! yay! :-)

― willem (willem), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

I think it's september, i have no idea though.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I heard it was Sept. 6th.

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Ok here is track 4

this track makes me feel really weird if i concentrate to hard on it.

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3E7GJC9S3UA9L3OOR0SAQHJELA

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

the promo's on eBay. Can't believe the cover!
http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/8a/e2/ff_1_b.JPG
back:
http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/8a/e3/07_1_b.JPG

― willem (willem), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/8a/e3/07_1_b.JPG

― willem (willem), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

my no. 1 record of 2005, without even having heard it.

is that justifiable?

thanks so much Hari!

― rizzx (rizzx), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Track 5!

this was my favourite until about an hour ago but it's been usurped

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2632JQUCCFPC32ZE62ND9C1DVJ

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Track 6

this is the one with handclaps!

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2XBPEQHRM2RDO18LEOAF6PXXGH

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

downloading these for later and feeling guilty also cos i can't help thinking that uploading an entire unreleased album on here is a really fucking bad idea.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Street Dude is fantastic, I'm digging the guitar and the quick static washes in this. x-post

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

hm, jed why do you think this is a bad idea? I haven't uplaoded anything here before. If it is a bad idea perhaps a mod could remove the links for now and i could send them to emails or something?

anyway last track: http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=30WXZFA49FZBW391RQTONY36QM

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

perhaps if the title of the thread was changed to "important work documents nothing to see here". or something.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Well the ysi links will expire anyway, so I don't think it'll be a big deal.

xpost haha

― sleep (sleep), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

i'm being hypocritical since i am grabbing them harri (and thanks) but em... can you really not see how uploading an entire unreleased record (thats not due to come out for 2 months) to a public messageboard could be a bad thing?

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Yeah i can definitely see the problem. But I thought that this kind of thing happened a lot. With the multitude of YSI links handed out here. But if it's not cool then i won't do it again.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Also i'm still pretty ignorant of how public this site is. Is it possible for someone to search for Black Dice and find this thread?

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Dude the internet was made for this kind of thing. Tnk U!

― oni0n_kid, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

xpost - you put all those gaps in track 6 so we wouldn't have the full thing, didn't you?

thx for this btw. they sound even more stoned than last record esp. 'heavy manners'

― ?ÎÓDDDJHKHVBNM (eman), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Track 4 has expired. Damn

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Fuck they went quickly. Could someone re-up 2, 3 & 6 plz?

― oni0n_kid, Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

it's not available in Lanarkshire!

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

jed> Nothings available in lanarkshire! Most record shops have closed down! (except in East Kilbride)

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

7 is gone already?

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

hari could you re-up the last track?

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

ahh i'm off out now but if it's not around when i get home tonight i will

probably best if i send it to an email if thats possible?

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

slsk plz

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

hari, i'll shoot you an email.

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

As will I. Good looks man, this is pretty great.

― - (smile), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

grr now i missed that last track! I'll email u as well

― rizzx (rizzx), Saturday, 23 July 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

you people are animals.

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 23 July 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Good work, people. We'll be in touch.

― Black Dice's lawyer (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 23 July 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

slsk who's got it
these links are done :((((

― jared%%, Saturday, 23 July 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

haha here's the press release
quotes from Rolling Stone and Spin!

and band photos!
http://girlieaction.com/Band%20Pages/black%20dice/blackdice-172.jpg

― jared&&, Saturday, 23 July 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Look out for the first single, "Smiling Off", with remixes by DFA, Luomo, and ZZ Pot in October and Black Dice’s Fall tour!

Dude, ZZ Pot is Matt Brinkman aka Mystery Brinkman aka Meerk Puffy (Forcefield/Mindflayer). I am psyched to hear this!!!!!!!

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

LUOMO

They did this just for me, I know it.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

am told said single will be 2x12"s

― Beta (abeta), Saturday, 23 July 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

that single looks awesome. i hope it rules like the juan maclean 2 x 12". luomo remixing black dice: stuff dreams are made of... :-)

― willem (willem), Saturday, 23 July 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Hey i'm not gonna be able to do any upping tonight, i'm having a bit of a virus nightmare! So just trying to download various things to get rid of. Sorry to those who emailed, if i get this sorted then perhaps tommorow.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 July 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

i grabbed 3 tracks before they expired:

Snarly Yow
Street Dude
Twins

I need the tracks I missed, this is a great record - drop me a line at SWAfan@gmail.com if anyone wants to swap.

― SWA fan (SWA fan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

I was just listening to SWA about two hours ago.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 23 July 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

would someone who has this whole thing please ysi it again?

thank you

― That One Guy (MichaelCostello1), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02TCEN8KLEGRZ3IAF5G1JY76MW

Track 6 - Twins

― SWA fan (SWA fan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3O7FI1ME95P7M04WP0YIHG9WND

Track 5 - Street Dude

― SWA fan (SWA fan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1J43ZZYQE6FFJ1NJGAACOD1S35

Track 1 - Snarly Yow

― SWA fan (SWA fan), Sunday, 24 July 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

got them all but the final track....a natural progression from Creature Comforts, wonderful stoned deconstruction, I look forward to spending time with this...could someone upload that last track? (or email)

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

definately progression yes, it has a distinct backbone now and that's something that was lacking on Creature Comforts

― rizzx (Rizz), Sunday, 24 July 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

i loved everything up until Creature Comforts, which i can't stand. this new material is stunning.

can someone help me out with the missing cuts (via YSI or email?)

― SWA fan (SWA fan), Sunday, 24 July 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

This group is the single really thrilling hope for pop music, which without them would be desperately dull (even—especially—the "new" Boredoms record).

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 24 July 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

hardly popmusic, but i agree, i've said this before: black dice are one of the few (very few) who have a progressive adventurous attitude

― rizzx (Rizz), Sunday, 24 July 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Momus -- haven't you heard Yamantaka Eye's new House 12" .. sheez!

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

whoa, this is way less noodly than i was expecting. i love it.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Sunday, 24 July 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

xxpost
tell more about this 12 please...i have not heard about it

― jared77, Sunday, 24 July 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/title/house/detail_133843.php

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

whoa, this is way less noodly than i was expecting. i love it.
yeah, same here. they've (re)injected a bit of "cone toaster" into this album, i feel.

― willem (willem), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

The concept of KAZOO

However as for KAZOO (カズー), being that and cheap of
course, you taste and are deep, are possible anyone, mosquito ズ

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

As for the activity which begins Boredoms the person of the strange
talent which one "new worldwide standard" has already been converted,
EYE.

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

The super ド class dance track/truck which is by EYE of review topic,
finally appearance! As for the activity which begins Boredoms the
person of the strange talent which one "new worldwide standard" has

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Eye has the worst taste in music of anyone I've ever known.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

you know EYE?

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

Yes. I also know the guys from Air and Sigur Ros and they say you suck.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

ADAM, SETH PUTNAM OF EUROPEAN DANCE MUSIC FOLKS!

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't even know who that is!!!

(Is it the singer from Anal Cunt?)

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

Can someone YSI the last track of this?

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

(Yes.)

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

New Eye Record!

― Tumililingan (ex machina), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.jeffsmusclestudio.com/graphics/breakinitup.JPG

― ?ÎÓDDDJHKHVBNM (eman), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

Recorded in Australia huh? Must've been during WIM festival.

Yeah, this album is great. Strange how listenable it is; I've had it on headphones walking around the city all day. I'm sure it's been annoying the shit out of fellow travellers - BBbbzzzz, Brrraaaahhhh, chughcuhghchuhg, BBBBzzznbbaarrrraaaa...

Many thanx Hari

― Mika, Monday, 25 July 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)

they recorded in byron bay....

― glenny g2003 (glenny g2003), Monday, 25 July 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

don't mean to be a pest, but missed a couple of the ysi's above. anyone who could help with 2, 3, 4, and 7 would be super sweet.

thanks.

― wolves! (wolves!), Monday, 25 July 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

ear candy, track 2:
http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CXZAVT9IVZOH11HCD9CK0VST7

― willem (willem), Monday, 25 July 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

lighten up, here's track 3:
http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RYRZ7CXLA3ZG33TK9WAGDATI4

― willem (willem), Monday, 25 July 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

where's benny? track 4:
http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=39ROL3TE0S2K92TA3Q50KDE4M7

― willem (willem), Monday, 25 July 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

....emptiness, track 7:
http://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=16F3WBSW9IGZB0BFVU0OGQN3GA

― willem (willem), Monday, 25 July 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

willem - you are very kind. i thank you.

― wolves! (wolves!), Monday, 25 July 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Totally. Thanks.

― - (smile), Monday, 25 July 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

I like it a lot.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 25 July 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

The new album is strong. I am grateful to the kind folks who have made it available.
But..of all the posts above, I have to say I find Momus' comments quite sad. He really has become a pathetic shell of a man. He was once a great musician and now he's just trying to latch onto the tastes and coattails of other musicians more talented than he. Momus, shut up and give us some good music of your own.

― Marybeth, Monday, 25 July 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your comment, Marybeth. But I've always been a fan of musicians more extreme than I am, people who take risks and change the sonic language of music, the grammar of pop (and yes, Black Dice make pop records). I don't think that's a terribly sinister attitude to have, or a sign that I'm "a pathetic shell of a man"!

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 25 July 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

I agree with you Marybeth. It's like listening to your dad tell you what albums of yours are good. Sigh.

― DavidC, Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

It's like listening to your dad tell you what albums of yours are good. Sigh.

B-but, some dads have great musical taste. Why imply that all dads have crap taste? It's time somebody stood up for dads everywhere. They've been strawmen for too long.

That being said, disregard Momus' comment about Boredoms' new album; it is zee bomb.

― original plagiarist (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

I don't question anyone's dad's musical taste. Just that if your dad likes it, it isn't as cool.

Sorry, just a fact of life.

That Boredoms' album is better than a really good breakfast. And that's a compliment.

― DavidC, Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

gotta admit I sort of agree with momus on the general thrust of his post. music has seemed really lacking of late. that said I did find the boredoms record to be a beacon of light.

― simon 803 (simon 803), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

if your dad likes it, it isn't as cool

This is horrific ageism right here on this thread. Basically you can't be 45 and right?

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't question anyone's dad's musical taste. Just that if your dad likes it, it isn't as cool.
Sorry, just a fact of life.
That Boredoms' album is better than a really good breakfast. And that's a compliment.

-- DavidC (edi...), July 31st, 2005.

My Dad had personal correspondance with Derrida, he founded a radical philosophy journal in the 70s and has written 5 books on such things as Occidentalism. His favourite band are The Cure but he mainly listens to electronic music such as Black Dice, Kim Hoirthy, Alan Braxe, Felix Da Housecat.

But none of that matters because he birthed a son.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 31 July 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

Well, not technically birthed - that would be mighty impressive - but you get what I mean.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 31 July 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

and yes, Black Dice make pop records

don't be all serious and than say this

― rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 31 July 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

hi, i have tracks 2, 3, 4, & 7. Would anyone happen to have the rest? Thanks very much.

― lz, Sunday, 31 July 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

Momus, rereading my post, or should I say my emotional outburst, I have to apologize for the shell of a man comment. I just get frustrated reading your grandiose proclamations, e.g. single thrilling hope for pop music. I mean, c'mon now Nick, the fellows in Black Dice are not going to put your quote on the packaging of their latest disc. You're beginning to sound a little bloated, ala Roger Ebert. Also, as a pop musician yourself, why aren't you "the single thrilling hope for pop music"? Make an album as strong as Circus Maximus, Hippopotomomus, or the Ultraconformist, and stop trying to chase after the elusive cover shot/article on/in the Wire magazine!
Also, my original comments were not at all directed towards your age. My dad too listens to amazing music...and I still listen to his advice.

― Marybeth, Sunday, 31 July 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Black Dice was "exciting" like 4 fucking years ago!!!!

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Sunday, 31 July 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

No, they were a pretty average hardcore band four years ago playing guitar, bass, drums.

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 31 July 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

The excitement you speak of has become boring. The danger has become safe. As Stylus puts it, I think rightly:

"There was a time when Black Dice, for all their chair-slinging tantrums and exaggerated aura of danger, seemed remarkably easy to figure out. They were over-the-top in their intensity and the ample doses of violence – both in concert and on record – soundly met the needs of those looking to nihilistically flog their sensory organs with fits of deconstructionist hardcore. But for all their brutality and claustrophobia, the first Black Dice records rarely shed the vestiges of the hardcore template they threatened to explode, and the band’s rapid-fire detonations soon became a “harder-faster-louder” safety net peeking out from under their anarchic outbursts. The Black Dice sound remained a bracing amalgamation of early-80s no-wave hysterics and extreme electronics, but their speed-and-bloodshed delivery felt increasingly stilted and suffocating with each passing release. Broken bones, bloody noses, and ruptured eardrums will always hurt, but they become a little less life-affirming after the fiftieth assault – especially if your aggressor insists on the same tactics each time. The release of Beaches and Canyons, therefore, marked not only an exploration into more graceful sonic territory but a drastic change in the Black Dice approach to structure... The [Lost Valley] EP succeeds, however, as a glimpse into the creative process of one of the most conceptually inscrutable and sonically inventive bands currently in existence. Think of it as the contextual postscript to Beaches and Canyons , as a document capturing the band in moments of experimentation amidst a strange sort of metamorphosis."

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 31 July 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

I think he might have been talking about them being exciting ca. Beaches and Canyons which was THREE YEARS AGO, JW, NOT FOUR.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 31 July 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

what "new boredoms album" are you guys talking about? have they done something since seadrum or are you still actually listening to that thing?

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Sunday, 31 July 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Er, the 2005 album, Fetchboy. Not new enough for you? Since it's five years since the last one I wouldn't hold your breath...

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 31 July 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

I just heard this album last night at 4am. I think I have to listen to it again because i didn't like it. It's probably because I was tired.

― Voodoo Child, Sunday, 31 July 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

i thought it was a 2004 release. Regardless, it doesn't take too many listens to get bored with it, particularly that 2nd track.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Sunday, 31 July 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

willem, thanks for posting some of the tracks for us late comers. play nice everyone. momus, i enjoy your blog very much. i will now go listen to the tunes while i try and write try and finish this new draft. anyone want to come here a reading of my new play on female terrorists in nyc? xken

― ken urban (mainloop), Sunday, 31 July 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

willem, thanks for posting some of the tracks for us late comers. play nice everyone. momus, i enjoy your blog very much. i will now go listen to the tunes while i try and try and finish this new draft. anyone want to come here a reading of my new play on female terrorists in nyc? xken

― ken urban (mainloop), Sunday, 31 July 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

Black Dice are to hardcore as Wire were to punk.

Looking foward to that Luomo remix, hopefully it will fully realise the Basic Channel influence that permeate some of the deeper moments of the album.

― coral/coral/coral, Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

No, they were a pretty average hardcore band four years ago playing guitar, bass, drums.

-- Momus (nic...) (webmail), July 31st, 2005 5:42 PM. (Momus) (later) (link)

1. They were already playing "Beaches" style material live. 2) You never listened to the old records, you just parrot what other people tell you. Semen of the Sun is nothing like an average hardcore record. The Troubleman EPs sound nothing like average hardcore. Please get off your ass and listen to records yourself instead of relying on what other people say about them.

Er, the 2005 album, Fetchboy. Not new enough for you? Since it's five years since the last one I wouldn't hold your breath...

-- Momus (nic...) (webmail), July 31st, 2005 6:44 PM. (Momus) (later) (link)

It was a 2004 release in Japan. Do you even listen to records other than the shit you get from Vice for free?

(Also, on a less snarky note, there is a new V0o0o0Oredoms live record due out eventually, but it looks like it was postponed for now.)

It must be nice to be SOOOOO SMART that you can learn everything you need to know about any given band or genre from listening to promo records and hearsay from all your "with it" friends.

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8088/11204278702346uo.gif

― coral/coral/coral, Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

they were never an average hardcore band. when I saw them play twice in 1999 they were one of the shittiest, most pointless unmusical piles of shit hardcore bands I have ever seen.
when I saw them after beaches and canyons came out I had to sit down for 30 minutes after they played cos they were so fucking awesome.

― simon 803 (simon 803), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

unmusical piles of shit hardcore bands

Most hardcore kinda sounds like your description.

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)

Marybeth, get a clue. Momus' last two albums are far more musically adventurous and fun than those oldies. Have some respect.

― Patrick South (Patrick South), Monday, 1 August 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

That said, I think Black Dice are annoying.

― Patrick South (Patrick South), Monday, 1 August 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

Er, the 2005 album

it's from 2004 actually

― rizzx (rizzx), Monday, 1 August 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

Geez Momus that album's from 2004 man

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 1 August 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

That Stylus review's incredibly retarded. Were they supposed to reinvent hardcore before they'd gotten round to making any or something? Like, Hal reinvented the FUCK out of hardcore just now, their album sounds like 60s pop! And it's their debut! No timewasting w/actual records of the genre in question like those lumbering dullards Black DUMBASSES.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 1 August 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

By the time this comes out we'll have discussed it to death. I've only heard a couple of cuts from this so far but it's sounding like the best thing they've done since Beaches and Canyons, and while being a bit more accessible it's still just as interesting, and involving than any of the others. What did people think of Creature Comforts btw?

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 1 August 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

Creature Comforts for me was like walking through a digital forest, an extremely pleasant experience if given the time and stonededness...but this one surpasses that in my opinion, and may reach the heights of beaches and canyons....re: Stylus, I've given up on them, with the exception of one or two writers...

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

zades from stairway has this. full album.

http://www.fionasforum.com/Stairway/posts/05-08-01/191919.shtml

― 123slamD (123slamD), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

CC was lacking a backbone in my opinion, I think you could hear they were struggling with Hisham's leaving. They've done a nice job on this one in proving they don't need him perse. although he needs to get back asap!

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Broken Ear reminds me a lot of CC, just given that "backbone". The actual sounds involved could almost have been lifted from sessions for CC, and arranged into neater, more even units for BE.

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

hisham left after CC. and i think the band would laugh at the verb of 'struggling' used with his departure.

― Beta (abeta), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah of course they would, but somehow i get that feeling. hisham left after miles of smiles

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

How are they using drums in this one? I heard they didn't use any drum machines for the beats.

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

I think they are using "samples". I was fairly familiar with their equipment circa "Beaches" but I have no idea now.

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Geez Momus that album's from 2004 man

Look, if you want to get pedantic, the actual recording was made sometime in the late 90s. 2005 is when it was released in the US.

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

was it? the reviews were all in 2004

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

they reviewed the jap ed, obv, dude.

― Boring Satanic Space Jazz (sexyDancer), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

the european release was in 2004, dude

i don't think zines review jap editions before the actual U.S. editions get released

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh here's the new Boredoms live record:

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=1091748

The album ' Seadrum/House Of Sun which release is done after a long time ' with the ボアダムス which pulls out the degree liver of the listener. That work release it is not done in the foreign country, in spite, received high appraisal even with the other side of the sea e.g., it is picked up in the overseas magazine. As for 2005 years overseas release, power activity such as live activity and event starring is developed, real activity starts more and more. As for the latest sound source in the live sound source which inserted chorus 20 it was done in Christmas of 2004 years, those which were compiled including the new sound source. As for their activities which are not restricted by genre as for now giving one time intense impact to the music fan of the entire world inevitability! Large attention one!

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

mix up on my part, i was thinking of Creature Comforts. sorry!

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

i don't think zines review jap editions before the actual U.S. editions get released
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/b/boredoms/seadrum-house-of-sun.shtml

OCTOBER 25TH, 2004

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

yep i knew they did that one.

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

what are you concerned about?

― Boring Satanic Space Jazz (sexyDancer), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Well, maybe they reviewed a promo and you downloaded mp3s, but I have the actual CD of "Seadrum/House Of Sun" in my hands here and it clearly says on it "p 2005 Warner Music Japan".

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Is that one of the Vice-licensed copies?

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I smell "Vice promo".

BUY ONE CD, it came out 9/23/2004 (or 23/9/2004) in Japan.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Black Dice 4 years ago was NOT hardcore guitar/bass/drums, despite all the "Weren't-There"s' insistence.

Keep that dream alive if it makes you feel cool though.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Black Dice - Cold Hands LP 2001

Long known primarily for their violent/brutal live shows, Black Dice turn a corner with Cold Hands moving further away from the Harry Pussy/Void hardcore spazz that helped make their reputation. In contrast to the pure chaos of their earlier work, Cold Hands shows signs of careful orchestration — though its overall sound is still just as confrontational. The band is clearly fascinated with manipulating and reenvisioning song structure: warped melodies, driving (or, alternately, scattered) rhythms, strange hums and drones, malfunctioning equipment, vocal screech, guitar squall and god knows how many more ideas are sutured together into a powerful, uneasy whole. Easy reference points might include This Heat, Can, or even Whitehouse, though these really only scratch the surface of what Black Dice are doing here. Cold Hands shows the beginnings of a mindbending new direction for Black Dice, a direction that should prove to be very important.

Edition of 750 copies. Standard LP jackets, four-color process printing

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Gygax!, did you see my posts upthread? :D

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

From BLASTITUDE #3, DECEMBER 2000:

BLACK DICE: Number 3 10-inch (TROUBLEMAN UNLIMITED)
...
We get home and I put it on and out comes this hilarious squealing, lurching, stumbling noise pattern that DEFINITELY isn't a song, it's an action, or an event, or a thing, but not a song at all, and my wife goes "My God!" her face turning up in near horror. "Why don't you get a record that's finished next time?" she asks, which is actually kind of an original putdown of this sort of thing. I just stared back and played air guitar to the shit, which is pretty fun, you should try it some time. Then the vocals by "Eric" started coming in, and they're fantastic - death metal vocals that aren't even trying to form words and phrases. He's just standing there with the mic making scary monster noises that actually are kinda scary. My wife has always dug the Melvins, but her look still increased in horror somewhat when she realized that 'that sound' was the lead singer singing. "How much did you spend on this?" was her next question. I said "nine bucks" and she actually seemed to think that was a pretty good deal.
I think so too, even if Side One isn't even over yet. I mean, it's nice just to hold and look at, coming as it does in a cool pink-and-white cover, with an included mondo artsy 10-page full-color-covered booklet featuring abstract doodlings that are actually Black Dice scores, many psychedelic collages, and even a thanks list. Oops, side one just got done and even though it looks like it's broken up into a bunch of short tracks (and I just saw on the Wherehouse website that the CD version also begins with 6-7 consecutive 30 second tracks), don't let it fool ya; at least it sounds to me like one continuous performance of that one thing/event/action-that-definitely-isn't-a-song that I described above. Immediate reflections: about two minutes into the side, a big low-end hum came in underneath the boxing/spitting/lurching/belching that made me think for a second that I needed to re-ground my turntable, and even after I realized it was just the band making the sound and not my equipment it was still pretty easy to imagine Black Dice, all four of 'em and their instruments, inside my stereo trying to beat their way out, fucking up the circuitry and wiring by randomly jamming their guitar necks into circuit boards while the drummer smashed his floor tom against the inside walls.
Side Two is probably even better, it actually has what sound like three separate 'movements,' and the first and third are actually 'songs' this time, not unlike the 30-second death-belches on the 7-inch released by Vermin Scum (reviewed last ish). Even more out there, though -- the last track is definitely a song, but the mixing and recording of it are bizarre. (Eric can be heard screaming away, lyrics even, but it sounds like he isn't even in the room, or maybe not even in the house, and is in fact probably being phoned in from the bottom of some Arctic ocean. If you're familiar with the last five minutes or so of Alvin Lucier's "I Am Sitting in a Room," that's actually what his voice sounds like, decayed and ghostly, like sound coming not from inside a room but from behind the funhouse mirror on its wall. The second might be a song too in some kind of damaged This Heat sense -- the drums repeat a crude fill while a few sharp broken-amp electronic tones take near-serialist turns ringing against each other. Who knows, if This Heat had been ugly Americans, or if Side Two of The Operation of the Sonne would've been about 10 minutes longer, we might've already heard something like this, but things being as they are I think Black Dice are tunneling deeper into a mine that is 99.9% their very own. Buy this record for snapshots from the trip.

http://www.blastitude.com/3/pg2.htm

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

got the japan release as well, gonna look when i get home hut i bought it in november 2004

i'm concerned about nothing, nothing at alllll

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

hut = but

obv.

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

http://archives.thedaily.washington.edu/1995/111795/pile.gif

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Pitchfork News reported in March 2005:

"the newest Boredoms album, titled Seadrum/House Of Sun... surfaced last year in Japan, but we won't have easy access to it until May 10, when Vice Recordings is scheduled to release it in North America."

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

http://www.amazon.co.jp/

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

You could also purchase it at Kim's Underground in NYC and surely Aquarius and Amoeba by October 2004.

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

it doesn't matter whether it came out 10 or 2 months ago, it's just surprising that people are still discussing it. i mean, it's two songs. one is VCN-Lite and the other's a token i-finally-got-around-to-buying-a-tambura-and-i-got-no-idea-what-to-do-with-it song.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Dorks.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Fetchboy

clueless

:-(

― Rizz (Rizz), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

On "House of Sun," Boredoms are handing you the keys to the holiest shrine of dronedom, and you thoughtlessly toss them into the sewer.

― original plagiarist (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

This thread got pretty gaynal pretty fast.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

yeah, what about a list of fav. black dice releases

1. cone toaster
2. beaches & canyons
3. miles of smiles
4. black dice/wolf eyes split
5. cold hands
6. creature comforts

― rizzx (rizzx), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

The first thing I heard by them was actually Creature Comforts which I bought on a whim. I do quite like it but I think if I'd heard Beaches and Canyons first, I'd probably hate it.
I like the way so many reviewers describe their sound, particularly on Creature Comforts as being like listening to a bunch of Dinobots on a prehistoric beach.

I've only listened to this album once, and while I think it's their best one yet, I must say it's seems a little less confrontational than the last two albums - almost like it's a little too streamlined? Also, although it is a slight change in sound, it's not a complete overhaul. I think the Black Dice have hit the top of their current peak, and while I love this sound, they'll need a big shift in style for the next record.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

i bought the last boredoms record as a christmas present for someone, they loved it

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Wait, don't tell me, they live in a teepee in Wales and don't have electricity but listen to the CD by means of crystals, rays and ley lines?

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Black Dice should definitely rename themselves the Dinobots.

― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

no, they live in south manchester, in a house, with a cd player in it, which has a copy of seadrum in it, sometimes. has done since last christmas, if i remember correctly

― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

I had another listen to Broken Ear Record today at lunch. It struck me that despite being sonically similar, this is a very different record in execution to the previous records. In essence, I listen to it in a different way. The title says it all really, whereas Beaches and Canyons conjured up images of incredible landscapes and Creature Comforts made me think of bleak woodland, the images on this record are of broken machinery - a band messing with their instruments; not unlike the sound Autechre have been going for of late.

The previous releases indulged in their subtleties - you'd be forgiven for thinking these were not a rock band playing and more field sampling and ambient synthesis, thus working on several different levels i.e. it is noise with a true organic feeling that manages to bring out a lot of feeling and character to the bizarre textures being created by what is essentially a rock band. Creature Comforts focused on a great spatial awareness, like being stranded on an isolated coastline. B&C did this too but juxtaposed the calmer parts with bigger more violent spazzouts, only revealing Black Dice as the ex-hardcore band they were in the last fifth of the album.

BER is different here. Despite it being more accessible, easier to listen to and believe-it-or-not "catchier" than these previous two, I don't get much more imagery than a jazz rock band being caught up in a threshing machine, or perhaps an infinite amount of monkeys who having neglected their entire works of Shakespeare decided to master the art of delay pedals. It literally is "Broken Ear" music.

Gone is the feeling of that ominous bleak space left by the other albums - there's a heck of a lot, sometimes even too much going on in this album and maybe this is why it's actually easier to listen to. For one, it's more colourful - the huge bass drones that perpetuate the second track on the album are reminiscent of Jungle or Dub; the welcome return of a more obvious vocal presence add a human touch to the unworldly sounds of previous ventures. It is also a bit more obvious that this is music being played by several different band members, whereas before the ambiguity of "who was doing what" made the overall listening experience a bit more fun imho.

Yet this is all at the expense of the dynamic range. One of my favourite parts of Beaches and Canyons is the end of track 4 in which the sounds of rolling waves (either sampled or synthetically produced) lap in and out for nearly five minutes, lulling you into a false sense of secure psychedelic bliss before the hardcore squall of the fifth and ultimate track.

So while the album is easier to listen to, a lot of the many intricacies are lost as there is little juxtaposition between the different levels on the album. It IS interesting, but it works better as background music, seeing as extended intensive listening can get a bit grinding.

That said, if I were to recommend a starting point for newcomers to Black Dice, this would be the first to check out, then B&C and lastly Creature Comforts.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

sorry if that didn't make a lot of sense, I was rambling and at work.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0316358509.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Boring Satanic Space Jazz (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

"On "House of Sun," Boredoms are handing you the keys to the holiest shrine of dronedom, and you thoughtlessly toss them into the sewer."

wrong. house of sun is shitty drone.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

How about shut up everyone about House of Sun huh?

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

And yeh, it is shit. It's like Ravi Shankar tuning up for 30 minutes.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

BD are coming to Baton Rouge in oct.
FUCKIN'A

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Fetchboy, do you know where they're playing? I'm leaving LA soon, but I'm curious to know which venue booked them.

― Ethan Forrest (ethanf), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

it's still TBA

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

"On "House of Sun," Boredoms are handing you the keys to the holiest shrine of dronedom, and you thoughtlessly toss them into the sewer."
wrong. house of sun is shitty drone.

-- Fetchboy (wangchungvsah...), August 2nd, 2005.

There are actually people arguing over a drone. This is why I love ILM.

"Seadrum" is fantastic tho and i feel sorry for you if you don't think so. Maybe you should put it on half an hour before you go to sleep and just lay down and close your eyes and listen to it.

― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

its all about 'Seadrum'

'Seadrum' owns everythang

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

And yeh, it is shit. It's like Ravi Shankar tuning up for 30 minutes.

That's a tamboura on "House of Sun," not a sitar (and the track's 20 minutes long). If you're gonna hate, at least be accurate. I pity anyone whose mind is so unpsychedelically inclined he/she can't feel the majesty of this track.

― original plagiarist (Da ve Segal), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/cartoon/images/miscellaneous/book-tintin.JPG

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

HI! WE'VE ALREADY HAD A THREAD ABOUT HOUSE OF SUN!!!!!

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

I like "CC" a lot more than "BaC", so does my fellow BD fan

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

do you keep him in your pocket?

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Her, no

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna ask if anyone preferred CC to B&C but you have already answered. Care to say why Andrew?

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

I dig CC better, it's more their album than their influences.
dig:
http://sifyimg.speedera.net/sify.com/shopping/images/landmark/tintin/big/0749704608.jpg

― Boring Satanic Space Jazz (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

CC>>>>>>>B&C

― Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

IS ANYONE STILL HERE?

CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME GET A COPY OF THE NEW BD

PLEASE

acorncoral at hotmail dot com

― ACORN CORAL, Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

intermessagboard automatic reply:

We're sorry but we will be away from the boards until Oct. 14. Please direct all requests to slsk during that time. Thanking you.

The Management

― I Love Music (eman), Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

this album is pretty good! so far, B&C>=CC>BER, but yneverknow

― petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Which will be Black Dice's Castafiore Emerald?

― Old School (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

I think I like BER better than CC. There are moments on "Motorcycle" where I think they might have invented a new kind of music. It's not "pleasant" exactly, but it's as hypnotic as I've heard them, even on B&C. It's like being pulled behind a rickety tractor but instead of feeling bruised and scraped, it's kind of fun.

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

FUCK YES SMILING OFF IS THE SHIT

― FUCK YES, Sunday, 4 September 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm.. I listened to this loads but just haven't been in the mood for it in a few weeks. I still reckon B&C is their best one, but this is the most accomplished and solid album.

― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 4 September 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

i bought the wrong disc yesterday, but it was amazing anyways.

― anthony, Sunday, 4 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

I just bought this properly. Any more thoughts?

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

What's the several-weeks-after-release verdict? Worth buying, or should I save my money for other noize?

― Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

It's a perfectly good noize album as far as things go, although I personally prefer Beaches and Canyons.

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I really like the Miles of Smiles EP

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I need to check that one out properly. Am I the only person who thought Cone Toaster was wack?

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

way better than anything else they've ever done.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

They are one of those groups that actually suck but make people feel cool about themselves for "getting" their music.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

right.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Oh and I suppose you think the Yeah Yeah Yeahs are good?

xpost

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't like the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and their name sucks.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I guess it sounds like I hate Black Dice from that post, but I don't. I just think they are given more credit than they deserve. My favorite song off of Broken Ear Record is "Smiling Off". I liked Beaches and Canyons, and the song "Skeleton" from Creature Comforts. Apologies for being a troll.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

i do kind of get what you mean r.o., they're not the most sociable listening and i can imagine there's a certain degree of "i get it but you don't" to their fanbase. I appreciate their stuff on it's own terms and I don't try and shove it down the throats of my friends. I am a big fan though I don't actually understand WHY i like them - i just do.

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

BD was excellent last night. i like the new record, but was fairly unprepared for their sound last night. heavy, tribal stuff - slow, soupy beats from triggered drumsticks, buncha vocal processing, and guitar looping. it took me a song or two to get acclimated, but once they and i settled in, they sounded AWESOME. super woozy, hypnotic, much murkier than last i saw them. they sort of reminded me of gang gang dance more than they have before.

dom, i dont know if youll get a chance to see this tour, or if you already have, but if you love "motorcycle," you will LOVE their live show.

― petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

yes, I saw them in Chicago and had fun. I actually thought they were a lot more power-noisy than the record. 13 & God opened, and more than half the room cleared when BD came on.

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

cold hands-era = "i don't live today"
beaches & canyons/cone toaster = "third stone from the sun"
post-miles of smiles = "are you experienced?" (only the backwards parts) (of the jimi, not BD)

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

Don't follow you.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 November 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

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