Defend The Indefensible: The Lyrics to 'I Predict A Riot'

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Seems very anti-Yorkshire (or is it Lancashire?) to me

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What? It's essentially a re-write of Pulp's 'Mis-Shapes'. Criticising the stereotypical people who go out on the town wearing sports casual, getting drunk and fighting in the streets...it's an indie staple, and the writer usually succeeds in getting the audience to sympathise with them more than the people they're attacking. The stereotype referred to in the song is a horrible one so it's fine by me.

This strikes me as an excellent reason to use it, fight the tyranny of youth. T'Chiefs are no spring chickens looking at them.

No, it's the antithesis of Pulp. (x-post) There's no compassion here whatsover, and as for an awareness of class issues... It's just about ignorant contempt.

Criticising the stereotypical people who go out on the town wearing sports casual, getting drunk and fighting in the streets...it's an indie staple

Does that make it a good thing?

and the writer usually succeeds in getting the audience to sympathise with them more than the people they're attacking.

Not in this case, surely. Where is the empathy or sympathy here for the chip-fat girls?

The stereotype referred to in the song is a horrible one so it's fine by me.

Oh well that's alright then! This is the argument that always crops up about the term 'chav': "I don't think it's a slur because I think chavs are horrible!" - obvious parallels need not be listed.

What makes me cringe is the line from 'Everyday I Love You Less And Less'- 'I can't believe that you and me once did sex'.

I Predict A Riot, meanwhile, is about getting pissed in a crap Northern town where there is nothing for the population to do other than get pissed, shag and throw up over the streets. The kind of place where people 'live for the weekend' because there's nothing else to live for. I don't think it's anti-chav in particular....I recognise where I grew up from the lyrics, a place where *everyone* is a 'chav'.

Eh?

Well it all just came out in the lyrics really. I used to DJ at this indie club in Leeds and would have to drive past this horrible mainstream club where everybody was pissed and police vans were packing people in. So in that case we are using social commentary but then again we’re not.

Quoted without comment.

The blood, the sweat, the tears. He's paid his dues and no mistake.

non-industrial employment = work that didn't involve packing biscuits or medical supplies. The only jobs available were factory work, cleaning and low-grade clerical - nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's not what all of us want. And if it wasn't what you wanted, you were a 'snob'. To say nothing of the casual racism and homophobia....

I'#m not surprised one of my fellow town-ers went on to be one of Selfish Cunt. If he'd stayed he would have ended up in a RATM covers band if he were lucky...

Roger and the Mechanics?

non-industrial employment = work that didn't involve packing biscuits or medical supplies. The only jobs available were factory work, cleaning and low-grade clerical - nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's not what all of us want. And if it wasn't what you wanted, you were a 'snob'. To say nothing of the casual racism and homophobia....

I'#m not surprised one of my fellow town-ers went on to be one of Selfish Cunt. If he'd stayed he would have ended up in a RATM covers band if he were lucky...

Maybe antithesis isn't quite right, but... 'Mis-Shapes' is about the rough deal people who are marginalised get in all sorts of ways - arguably Jarvis' first instinct is always to symapthise with the 'weird' poor, then the 'mainstream' poor - with the well-off 'weird' some distance behind, however much they then took his songs to be for them. And if you've been given a smack in the mouth or actively harassed for dressing/being different, then yeah, fair enough, be angry at the person or people who did that.

But 'I Predict A Riot' is really about people who dress like the Kaiser Chiefs (who, ten years on, have enough critical mass to have their own orthodoxy in a city as big as Leeds) doing exactly that - sneering at people for dressing/being different. And note the diminishment of what these nasty 'mainstream' people have done to the poor 'indie' types: now all that has to be endured by yer Kaiser Chief is to drive past the horrible mainstream club!

The delivery of that line sounds kind of futile and desperate to me

nor does 'what's the point of being rich*, if you can't think what to do with it, cos you're so bleedin' think', particularly - though I do love this line too personally.

*referring to 'commoners' winning the Lottery

Thing is though it's just Menswe@r's Hollywood Girl but not as good.

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Yeah, my mum used to read that to me as a kid.

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We can't help it, we're so thick we can't think
can't think of anything but shit, sleep and drink
Oh, and we like women
"up the women" we say
and if we get lucky
we might even meet some one day

OTM flyboy

-- LRJP! (ell.arr.j...), August 23rd, 2005.

to me that last line changes it all. Surely JC is sympathising with the people he is talking about. The women stay away from them and everybody else thinks that they just 'shit, sleep and drink'. But that last line hints at a different life that they can only hope for.

You Reckon? As sung it always felt like a sneer to me. But i should clarify that like Kanye's Mum I'm not about to complain about ambivalence or contradiction...

I think it's more likely to be a timely (wel, timely in 2003) schtick steal from this chap:

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Cut through the city on a Saturday night
Watching the boys on their motorbikes
I wanna be like those guys, I wanna wear my clothes tight
Matching jackets and a fistful of notes
New sneakers and a fresh pack of smokes

P-p-p-pneumothorax is a word that is long
They’re just tryin’ to put the punk back into punctured lung
Pe pe pe panic over party off party on
We are birds of a feather and you can be the fat one

!?

I thought i didn't care about Kaiser Chiefs but now it turns out i can't stand them!

since when was 'cutting through the city' viable? surely in these days of one way systems and traffic it takes a lot longer.

I also like the way the Killers sing about Norman Whiteside

what the fuck is that

(the chip fat bit is my favourite)

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Still not as bad as The Killers, though. Which song was their only decent one a lyrical lift from?

Is this a Soccer AM thing?

Factory workers: get one culture. Maybe you could sit in your bedroom reading Philip Larkin and listening to The Smiths, safe in the knowledge how better you are than everyone else.

Because that's the thing, people are only poor because they're lazy. If mans down on the production lines just put effort into it, they could all go to Oxbridge, thanks to Britain's totally fair class system.

MC Pitman to thread...

Ah, the Kaisers are for kids. I can't be bothered hating on them.

Maybe we should do a "Kaisers vs McFly" type thread.

MF get points for not having a member with a wacky nickname as well.

The opposite of punctum is studium.

People should get out of Stoke Newington more I think.

Life In A Northern Town is more the flipside to IPAR, surely - the old Coronation Street style Northerness.

So would you critice the Kaiser Chiefs (mainstream culture) for not trying anything their friends don't do (going to rough clubs, drinking and fucking)?

OMG PEOPLE GET PISSED OFF AT US SKATERS BECAUSE WE CLOG UP THE ENTIRE TOWN CENTRE AND KNOCK PENSIONERS DOWN WITH OUR 27TH RATE CLYDE SINGLETON IMPRESSIONS.

As rekkids go, it isn't all that terrible, but the bravery's one is a little bit better.

Are Kaisers mainstream culture? They'd get slapped for dressing like that down my way. I'm sure if they lived in the same sort of places they would have tried it just for lack of anything else to do/friends not wanting to go further afield. This is becoming a circular argument now. All that needs saying is that I went off the Kaisers when I realised all their songs went 'wooooooooooooargh' and like noticing a vocal tick they were never the same.

Most 'chavs' are better off than I am

lmao @ straw man.

Oh and thanks Pash for that!

xpost

Oh and thanks Pash for that! City hobs I mean. xpost

Well, apart from Clinic, and it's ace when they do it.

I don't have a car, or an expensive wardrobe, or my own house, (property prices are higher where I live now mind),or lots of jewellry, or a mobile or a DVD player. Part of this might be down to being a student when people from my home town most often left school at sixteen to work (if they didn't start a family a couple of years or so later); part of it might be down to spending my money on records and books instead (and getting bullied at school then looked askance at at work because of it). There are so many people I knew with expensive stereo systems and two CDs to play on them - a NOW R+B compilation and Bonkers 5.

Although hang on...was this the 'defend Mippy' thread here? Can we go back to Da Music now please? In short - Mis-shapes good, The Streets good (apart from Dry Your Eyes which makes me never want to hear music again, or read any article telling me how utterly moving it is) Kaiser Chiefs need to go for a run around the park and a lie down.

I never thought "Mis-Shapes" was all that; it sounded like a bad West End musical tune and everyone bought that record because of "Sorted For Es And Whizz" anyway.

You can read it as pure observation though can't you, only the 'not very sensible' line serves as judgement, and surely he is right there (girls wearing so little on a cold night just in order to attract men like the one in the tracksuit fighting over the taxi).

I have no idea what inverse snobbery yr referring to, M. The KC's single seems to be getting heavily playlisted on R1, IE I hear it on the way to work and on the way home as well.

I like "thee", except they shoulkd have used it genesis p orridge style. Also "ov".

"ok dad" haha tom.

I don't see the point of an expensive set up with barely anything to play on it, though. It's more about status then. It's what put me off getting an iPod...music shouldn't be about hardware. Or perhaps that's the indie snob in me talking.

The only trouble we ever had in a taxi rank was lunchtime at Oxford on a Monday when some idiot brat in a suit tried to jump midway into the queue. He ended up jumping from one foot to the other after I thoughtfully deposited his large and heavy bag on his feet at a great speed from a high distance.

Well indeed. Nine months later...

You could legitimately add "Tony" to that first sentence there. "Sensational sound of When I Need You, oh and I needed you Tessa WHY DID YOU WALK OUT ON ME BOO HOO etc."

On the Other hand "Not very pretty I tell thee" vs "Ain't no use in shining out a light babe/ it's a light I never knowed."

LRJP OTM, Joyriders is so much better a song to compare this with. I don't think the last line is a get-out at all, I think he's finished putting the boot in, and then puts the knife in. So to speak.

A different era and a different attitude to the working class, he sees them as downtrodden and passive rather than violent and aggressive but still essentially self-limiting and stupid.

Some bad emo band must have written a song called 'We Hate Chavs' by now....I thinks ome DJ did on some tin;ot local station. If not, there's always C.Moyles' hil-ar-ious parody 'I Predict A Diet'.

you can't really hear the lyrics, so it doesn't really matter.

My old man’s drunker than a barrel full of monkeys
And my old lady she don’t care
My sister looks cute in her braces and boots
A handful of grease in her hair

Don’t give us none of your aggravation
We had it with your discipline
Saturday night’s alright for fighting
Get a little action in

Get about as oiled as a diesel train
Gonna set this dance alight
`cause saturday night’s the night I like
Saturday night’s alright alright alright

Well they’re packed pretty tight in here tonight
I’m looking for a dolly who’ll see me right
I may use a little muscle to get what I need
I may sink a little drink and shout out she’s with me!

A couple of the sound that I really like
Are the sounds of a switchblade and a motorbike
I’m a juvenile product of the working class
Whose best friend floats in the bottom of a glass

when students are 50% of the 18-21 demo, will they still be such a soft target for interweb hardmen?

"This isn't the type of music our party would ever want to be associated with, like rap music we think it's wrong to play this stuff. What's wrong with Beethoven?"

but is that a spoof?

the new single (and video), 'Angry Mob', seems to touch on similarly essentialised issues with the working classes. They sure like to assert their class superiority, these Kaiser lads.

Hahaha, this is the thread that led to the British ILX scene changing forever. Awesome.

L.Jagger: this thread is effectively your birthright.

Sod off Passatino

OTM

23/08 changed everything

I predict LBZC

23/08 changed everything

-- Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 12:47 (3 hours ago) Link

^^ my actual birthday

i miss flyboy. not.

Fly-bye?

You with the sad eyes
don't be discouraged
oh I realize
it's hard to take courage
in a world full of people
you can lose sight of it all
and the darkness inside you
can make you fell so small

But I see your true colors
shining through
I see your true colors
and that's why I love you
so don't be afraid to let them show
your true colors
true colors are beautiful
like a rainbow

Show me a smile then
don't be unhappy, can't remember
when I last saw you laughing
if this world makes you crazy
and you've taken all you can bear
you call me up
because you know I'll be there

And I'll see your true colors
shining through
I see your true colors
and that's why I love you
so don't be afraid to let them show
your true colors
true colors are beautiful
like a rainbow

flyboy is cool

He was right about shit and evil, anyway.

ah jesus i HAVE contributed to this thread and it WASN'T funny

Hey there Delilah
What's it like in New York City?
I'm a thousand miles away
But girl, tonight you look so pretty
Yes you do
Times Square can't shine as bright as you
I swear it's true

Hey there Delilah
Don't you worry about the distance
I'm right there if you get lonely
Give this song another listen
Close your eyes
Listen to my voice, it's my disguise
I'm by your side

Oh it's what you do to me
Oh it's what you do to me
Oh it's what you do to me
Oh it's what you do to me
What you do to me

Hey there Delilah
I know times are getting hard
But just believe me, girl
Someday I'll pay the bills with this guitar
We'll have it good
We'll have the life we knew we would
My word is good

Hey there Delilah
I've got so much left to say
If every simple song I wrote to you
Would take your breath away
I'd write it all
Even more in love with me you'd fall
We'd have it all

Oh it's what you do to me
Oh it's what you do to me
Oh it's what you do to me
Oh it's what you do to me

A thousand miles seems pretty far
But they've got planes and trains and cars
I'd walk to you if I had no other way
Our friends would all make fun of us
and we'll just laugh along because we know
That none of them have felt this way
Delilah I can promise you
That by the time we get through
The world will never ever be the same
And you're to blame

Hey there Delilah
You be good and don't you miss me
Two more years and you'll be done with school
And I'll be making history like I do
You'll know it's all because of you
We can do whatever we want to
Hey there Delilah here's to you
This ones for you

Oh it's what you do to me
Oh it's what you do to me
Oh it's what you do to me
Oh it's what you do to me
What you do to me.

ban pre-'07 LJ

right wing: the working classes are nasty and violent

left wing: the working classes are nasty and violent and cool and exciting

^^^The kinda poster this thread opened the doors for

i don't agree with either of those strawmen views articulated by strawmen i just made up.

i think max r is a strawman designed by a LZBC member to promote anger and intolerance towards newbies.

Louis I love you so I'm posting this to thwart the inevitable zing you've just set yrself up for.

Im from the streets of
I couldnt be a chief
Got girls on my case so
I couldnt be a chief
If its arms we can meet cos
I couldnt be a chief
I put u in ur place cos
I couldnt be a chief

my back is got, cheers bro!

if the zing's funny, to be fair, i don't honestly mind these days.

You tossed a dude off

what's wrong with that, eh?

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Bump for nu-ILX era

Dunno about the lyrics, but it's a great song nevertheless.

There we go.

It's a really good song. I thought the album was a bit patchy. Not sure what everyone is talking about really here, the lyrics are just a bit cheeky and funny. A lot better than just "Ruby, Ruby, Ruby!"

^^^The kinda poster this thread opened the doors for

-- Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 16:40 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Yes, isn't it awful how those who hate recent bands writing great melodic songs meet with opposition on ILM these days? Wasn't it so much better back in 2001 when everyone agreed that melodic music should be buried forever and white males with guitars should never again be allowed to make music?

Shut the fuck up, I listened to a Hefner album within the last month.

And I put some Toto tracks on my iPod.

I guess Toto are old enough for you to accept then. It's the idea of a band formed after the mid 80s and writing traditional songs that you cannot accept.

Exterminate! Exterminate!

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How 'traditional' can a song written after the mid-80s be?

A lot better than just "Ruby, Ruby, Ruby!"

Is that a song about getting a post-pub curry after predicting the afformentioned riot?

Sarfahl was, I believe, the first to ask why a Yorkshire band would be using Cockney slang in a song.

How 'traditional' can a song written after the mid-80s be?

geir plse define "traditional music"

-- Thomas, Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:42 PM (1 hour ago)

Folk music. Music made by non-professional musicians. All things "ethnic".

-- Geir Hongro, Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:56 PM (1 hour ago)

That last one sounds like a place you buy Christmas presents in a mad panic on Dec 23

bit like "But is is Melodic" in Reading town centre?

Or "Norwegian Douchebag" just off Tottenham Court Road

"Isn't it good, Norwegian Prude"

Or "Norwegian Douchebag" just off Tottenham Court Road

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oh wait

Man, this song gets better every time I hear it

lol jk

where's that jpg of you performing it at karaoke?

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I've lost weight since then, obv

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What if you dont care what bands look like and never pay attention to lyrics? Are you still allowed to like this song?

Dom, you might be the only poster ever to repeatedly creep-revive themself.

by default.

Dom, you might be the only poster ever to repeatedly creep-revive themself.

-- Matt DC, Monday, 19 May 2008 00:48 (12 hours ago) Bookmark Link

I'm just paying tribute to the original LBZC thread. I bet you're the kind of guy who hassles WWII memorial services.

Much of the indie scene has become "very boring", with record labels pushing bands playing "indie by numbers", the Kaiser Chiefs have said.

Singer Ricky Wilson said some bands "didn't seem to be enjoying themselves" and were "going through the motions".

He told the BBC that the band - one of Britain's biggest indie groups - had made their third album "weird and fresh and radical" in response.

The album, Off With Their Heads, is released in the UK on 13 October.

Their new single, Never Miss A Beat, will come out a week before.

"Indie bands are big, so a lot of record companies are pushing indie bands and going 'we've got one and they dress in vests'," Wilson said. "That indie by numbers is boring."

Songwriter and drummer Nick Hodgson added: "It's very, very boring."

Wilson continued: "We're not going to point fingers or name names, but we've noticed that [other bands] didn't seem to be enjoying themselves on their new records, they seemed to be going through the motions."

Grant Connor: Okay boys, this bear's gonna make a dash for freedom. Unless we take him down.
Cletus: Yeah, *all* the way down.
Grant Connor: What you said didn't really add much
Cletus: I know. I just wanted to belong.
Grant Connor: Well, we all feel that way sometimes.

I like how the best gimmick they could come up was to "dress in vests", exactly like a certain Leeds-based band with a podgy frontman.