This sounds like the worst thing

Ice Cold: Right. Now how can you listen to that and think we’re talking about killing all white people?

Tone Def: Fact. We were talking about one specific whitey. Whitey Deluca our ex-manager.

Tasty Taste: He ripped us off for 70 grand.

Ice Cold: That’s right. And Whitey Deluca wasn’t even white. He was Italian. He was one of those olive complexion MFs you know.

Live shows have included such esteemed bands and DJs as TV on the Radio, Ghost Exits, Avenue D, Crash Test Dummies, Quieve & Tha Pumpsta, Dragons of Zynth, Matchbox 20 and Celena Glenn.

What the eff? Crash Test Dummies?

I don't think I can handle NYC for much longer.

Here's Fiddy's chance to walk the walk...

By the way, 50 lives in Farmington, Connecticut. [50 Cent party]

damn the white liberal knows everything doesnt he. if you dont share his vast knowledge. too bad, you just dont get it. fuck! this does indeed, sound like the worst thing. i though regular old hipster "dance parties" were dumb enough.

Casady was raised in Santa Barbara, Calif., but quickly notes her worldliness by listing the cities where she has lived along the trail to Brooklyn. A regular Kill Whitie partygoer, she tried the conventional (that is, non-hipster) hip-hop clubs but found the men "really hard-core." In this vastly whiter scene, Casady said that "it's a safe environment to be freaky."

I'v never been able to explain away my scoffing refusal to go to caucasian-dominated hip-hop club nights without sounding like a jerk.

And I still won't be able to, but for me

this. is. perfect.

PS- Williamsburg really is a horrible place, in case you're wondering. Everyone looks like they walked out of a Weezer or BRMC video. EVERYONE.

uh, only if you ignore the hasids and the hispanics and the poles, ya dumbass.

I realized that a) I didn't want to live anywhere near this Weezer video hell and b) That I didn't need her help.

I'd rather go to a club where people go to dance and get down and not pose like they came to dance and get down. I bet the lights there are always up so people can see each other doing their best nouveau black face. I'd rather go to Chief Ike's or the Blue Room.

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yeah, there are plenty of "regular people" in williamsburg/greenpoint, you just have to walk about four blocks in any direction away from the Bedford L stop.

LOLZ :D

Um, I yeah I guess I was way off the mark, as I figured that people on a music thread would probably be going to Williamsburg to check out THE MUSIC SCENE.

And based on that, I'll hold my ground on what I said. The dozen or so friends I have who live there say the same thing.

Don't blame me for the fact that just about every article covering Williamsburg in the last five years has not done so without making the place sound obnoxious beyond belief. Also not my fault that NO ONE in music circles writes about, or has interest in, Willaimsburg's diverse ethnic community.

But thanks for the insult, champ.

aka don't blame me for BELIEVING EVERYTHING I READ.

I mean really, I lived in NYC long enough and have enough friends that still live there, quite a few in Williamburg.

You're REALLY going to try and front that Williamsburg, especially via the topic of this thread, and the many other club nights and the types of people who live there and attend such nights to make them a "story", has NOT become OBNOXIOUS?

BRING IT THE FUCK ON!!!

M.I.A. IS THE FUTURE OF MUSIC
IRAQ WAS BEHIND 9/11
BLACK IS WHITE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

Journalists in reducing everything to black and white shocka!

My neighborhood, which I am told is on the far east boundary of Williamburg, is overwhelmingly black, Dominican and Puerto Rican. There are 4 record stores on my street and I doubt any of them have TV on the Radio cds.

It's nothing like this.

it's like they are unaware of the ways of the world. Dammit, this folks need education. what if we were to found a school for this? we can dub it, "Freak Academy." Clueless scenesters of all shades shall be welcome.

shit, it's friday, isn't it?

xpizzost

It's like the rent there- you moved there because it was cheaper, then everyone else did, and now it's expensive, but how can you complain?

"Let's kick out all the white people- except me!"

I cill you for saying that, after I cill my landlord.

Dude, it was a Thursday afternoon. I didn't even order pad thai.

Yes, Chai is good. I won't go to SEA, I went to the one in the east village and hated it.

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Come on, dude, Da Pumpsta's got 34 friends on MySpace -- I just knows your MySpace universe is bigger than that!

And now we're on an all-purpose New York City trash-talkin' thread!

Yeah, article was more than a little snide. But I didn't feel that bad for him.

Shakey, trust me. I go out each Friday around 11 pm and flyer the bulk of Williamsburg, and it's nothing like the magazines make it sound. Pretty fucking boring in comparison.

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no, i don't feel bad for him either. i just think by picking such an easy target you can lapse into judging how uncool it is versus just talking about the other issues involved here. there was definitely a snide element to the article which is totally unecessary/bad journalism i think.

Reggie refrains.

mr. stencil it's all BRANDING! when you dj you need a cooler dj name and a cool name to yr party. My various parties are only kinda ok, that's why they don't do so well. You also need to play more 90s hip-hop and have friends who like the dancing.

And as far as hipsters go, we have plenty of them in the Mission. It cracks me up how much time and money people will spend in order to look bad (ironically, of course!).

-- mucho (mlopez10...), August 26th, 2005.

just by the way, the bianca casady in question is the girl from Coco Rosie

I want to approach, but I unfortunately too quickly digress into "Williamsburg is full of hipster idiots" type commentary in the early discourse.

Dan started it upthread w/r/t this being some attempt at humor via white appropriation of black culture, but again, I can't go there quite yet...

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and Dan just brought it back up...

well since my last attempt at a party failed on its first night due to ROYAL OAK being run by DOUCHEBAG FLAKEY JERKS IN SKINNY TIES AND EYELINER i've kinda given up. and there is NOTHING cooler than the name FUCK IT as a party name. just didn't get a chance to succeed since some dudes are fucking double-booking idiots.

You also need to play more 90s hip-hop and have friends who like the dancing.

no, i need to know more people who realize that "church of anthrax" is dance music!

It's easy to make fun of Williamsburg, only because it's easy to find something to make fun of in Williamsburg, even though every large neighborhood/city has something equally lame to make fun of.. but Williamsburg is still in the spotlight now... hence..

I think Williamsburg is the target of a lot of sniping because the neighborhood -- and by this I mean the hipster influx -- has some very evident conceits... the whole neo-bohemian thing. The New York press takes its potshots at W'burg pretty regularly. Less frequent is the Washington Post getting into it.

A staggering amount of sense has just been made.

sometimes I think flyering is the biggest waste of fucking time, but i'm afraid NOT to flyer for shows.

what schwantz just said, too

(and to try and hatch out the more interesting argument to come here..)

Also, I hate ironic dancing more than you know, but making fun of hip-hop or even any aspect of black culture does not make someone an immediate racist.

i do fliering for the aesthetic, because i like to have people compliment me on fliers that took me 5 minutes to make because it's fun!

My flyers say FREE BEER really big on them...

Can we please see a few attempts at equasions that sum up exactly what this guy's deal is supposed to be?

But that might be considered false advertising to some

saying you can't grind guys in "conventional hip-hop clubs" because they're too "hardcore" is approaching borderline in my book.

Well hell.

easy. mission: douchebag

I'm all equeasy now.

you've got like, me, rich zerbo and brian degraw, for what it's worth.

I just don't get the whole "ironic DJ" thing at all, in any context. And even more confounding are the people who come and dance along. If you don't REALLY like the music, then don't play it (or dance to it). If you DO really like it, then have the balls to admit it.

They like the music and they like dancing to it of course. The "humor" and "irony" part adds several things, like distance, like the ability to convince yourself that you're NOT uncomfortably appropriating somebody elses culture(i know, I know, it's all backwards), protection from admitting earnestly liking something you're not supposed to like etc etc.

I've heard nothing but questionable things about royal oak and their attitudes towards music/djs etc.

anyway, never been to a hollertronix party, I just looked at their website and it's the same thing, I mean, the image/graphics are clearly trying to represent something, which is fine, it's all marketing, but is that what hollertronix is all about? Black dudes and girls in thongs?

when you tell white kids they can get in for free if they bring a bucket of chicken, I think that qualifies...

Surely you mean flip-flops.

Lit has a strict no flip-flop policy.

I forgot about that part. That sucks.

i think brian stole my headphones and gave them to josh. : (

Come to daddy.

PRESS RELEASE
_______________________

Williamsburg Warriors and Kill Whitie present:
REZONE THIS!
@ CLUB EXIT
Greenpoint, Brooklyn
April 28th, 2005
Tickets $12.50 advance, $15.00 door. Available Tuesday, April 19th at EAT Records / 124
Messerole Avenue / Greenpoint / Brooklyn / 718-389-8083 / www.eatrecords.com
Doors open at 8:00pm, show starts at 9:00pm

Featuring TV on the Radio, Dragons of Zynth, Turing Machine, Apollo
Heights, Roxy Pain, and Tha Pumpsta with Chief Quievie

REZONE THIS! a show organized by local Williamsburg / Greenpoint community groups features a show / dance party to raise awareness of the city’s plan for OUR waterfront rezoning. REZONE THIS! anticipates a sold-out event at CLUB EXIT in Greenpoint, Brooklyn on the 28th of April. Attracting more than 900 special individuals with local and regional press coverage.

Kill Whitie! Dance party to follow.
Please direct any questions to:
Jeremy Parker
xxx-xxx-xxxx
jeremyparker@milkthebeef.com
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http://www.williamsburgwarriors.org/rezonethis.pdf

The thing is, I'm sure all of those links exhibited cock vacuum pumps.

*drum break*

plz tell me you guys are all referring an NYC club, and not to the yuppie gentrified hell just north of Detroit...

what is this, your fucking blog? What music is "now playing"? How's that crush going? Can I be added to your friend list?

it's a williamsburg bar named after yuppie gentrified hell north of detroit.

confounded, lighten up.

hstencil, I think counfounded is making an "inside" joke to me.

And an excellent one at that!

"might as well be" being the very key phrase here. Obviously, Diplo and co. are not admitting people in free if they bring in a bucket of chicken, etc... ok, obvious Pumpsta vs. Holler differences established. (although take away Diplo's weed. You never know! Ok, I kid I kid.)

I don't immediately agree, actually -- mainly because of Susan's cogent points above in the article.. mainly, we're inducing the clientele of any DJ night where a white guy plays bootie music mostly made by black people based on what that girl says about men at the "real" clubs being "too hardcore." for her. Articles rarely care about getting an overall accurate feel of an audience being discussed in an article such as this. The writers want to narrow down the few that have something titillating (no pun intended) to say.

The thing they succumb to is really prevalent now -- being eclectic for eclecticism's sake. I don't need you to mix from a 135 bpm Cure song into a 68 bpm Southern hip-hop song. The beats might match, but you're fucking up the whole feel of my dancing.

As for their relation to black culture, I haven't thought about it enough to pontificate yet...

donut touches on something key here, fact is, I throw a disco party where sometimes I actually play disco. I'd like to think that my goal is to have a mixed crowd, and I find that if you look at the stuff I play, you'd see that it was always quite diverse, that much of the history of disco and hip-hop is way more diverse then most people give it credit for. I'm not free of the problematic use of terms white and black to define nebulously different degrees of "funkiness" in the music, but would like to think that a good disco party doesn't seem so minstrely. I think with hip-hop parties there's a fine line that you can cross and I know it when I see it. A bunch of kids, white or otherwise dancing to hip-hop isn't inherently evil, but sometimes something happens to the vibe where it suddenly makes my white-liberal-guilt ass feel pretty uncomfortable. Obviously Hollertronix flirt with that line, and the Pumpster goes way beyond it.

christ, i knew that plenty of michigan people moved to brooklyn after they graduated but this is fucking ridiculous.

too late now...

Really? Where is Capone's?

(now 18)

and while on the self-promo tip-

http://igetrvng.com/shop_mx4.html

JOKES

xpost YES PAPPAWHEELIE WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE BEST OF EDDIE MURPHY HENCE "CILL MY LANDLORD" UPTHREAD.

Surely, it's after the MI suburb and not the U.S. alliance with England/Wales/N. Ireland at all.

(Actually, I don't know! But just sayin' that "Royal Oak" seems to have an older legacy than the name of a city in Michigan, I'd gather.)

More like Generation Y, who has been told for their entire childhood that belonging to a culture is a cool thing and they went crazy when they reached a certain age and realized that they're totally without ethnicity and think they're marooned. Your culture is whatever you want. You don't have to act ridiculous if you like something, nobody's going to beat you down for "appropriating" anything if you actually like something.

If Dan's link to alldisco.net didn't answer it clearly enough, Capone's is one of the free pizza places bars in williamsburg.

221 n 9th
btwn roebling & driggs

Pumpsta Fans Shed Irony - Flock To Capone's In Wool Tunics

I won't comment on a Hollertronix/Diplo night as I've never seen either, which is why I asked the question way upthread. (yeah, I saw Diplo "perform" behind M.I.A. live, but that's a whole other kettle there... please, no sex jokes. I'm holy)...

But, I think this all just links backs to arguments involving white kids dancing to music played by white performers/DJs where the music has roots in black culture; and whether there's concerted minstrelsy going on for any given event that fits these parameters.. and the answer usually is: "it depends, but it's usually white kids who just like this type of stuff, and yeah maybe some of the people there feel more comfortable than attending a mostly black attended event of similar music, when they shouldn't HAVE to feel uncomfortable, but this fact can't be used to infer a general stereotype of racism amongst all the white attendees, or maybe it can, but it CAN't. OH YES IT CAN! blah blah blah fight fight fight..."

(now 18)

Wait, do you mean DJ Pumpsta? The guy who used to DJ a krautrock party wearing nothing but a leather military cap and jackboots?

And I beat her to death.

No jury would convict you.

At my school it was a 'dress like a townie' party where everyone was supposed to 'wear' mullets and wife-beaters. A friend of mine wrote an editorial about how it was incredibly offensive. They called him an 'elitist' for not 'getting' the joke.

And it's a lot better than the fucking New York Press.

jesus fucking christ. BEATDOWN REQUIRED.

hehe.. Williamsburg's too cool for me. the only time i go is to visit BAM or my friends at Pratt. I'll check out Capone's, though. I get back to nyc in two weeks.

New York press. Lower case 'p', big chief.

As for the NYP, they've got some of the best snarkiness out there. Paper's going down the tubes financially, but oh well.

Williamsburg... still a blight on Brooklyn.

Naw, that's Ft. Greene near downtown Brooklyn.

STAY OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

nyp has been going down the tubes since day 1, right?

Not sure. I know the editor resigned in March rather than be suspended by the publisher.

And their managing editor left in 1998 -- he's now the Times' culture editor.

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"YOU THINK LIFE IS TOUGH!"

This is a party for idiots thrown by idiots that unfortunately reflects poorly on the non-idiot caucasian gentrifiers of Williamsburg. And of course the idiot press goes and gives them a story, and then all of us idiots give it even more attention by commenting to death on it.

I wish it wasn't Friday and I wish I liked my job more- I wouldn't have bothered....

Yeah, ok, it gets a little silly when all of Bedford Avenue is jammed with 20-something hipsters, but so what. I have a good time when I go there.

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Cause these guys blow right past the line between wanksta and blackface.

(no offense meant gear)

"No, come on guys! Kill whitey! Hahaha! Right? Haha!"

ok, one, David, but he's always there.

Granted, it's very hard to know a person's intentions, but I think most of the people going to DJ Pumpsta genuinely like the stuff that's being played. Who would they be faking it for? Everyone who likes rap, including ILM posters and African-American hip-hop fans, likes it for basically the same reasons. Everybody laughs at the funny stuff, and everybody gets similarly excited at the super sexual stuff. Sadly, the Pumpsta people see it as a guilty pleasure, something most people around here got over years ago. So they call it irony and brush off detractors who just don't get the joke. Understandably, "Get it? We're white and we're into Trick Daddy" makes no sense to those people who don't hate themselves for listening to rap.

What's distasteful about it, I think, is that when people invoke irony in this situation, they are effectively suggesting that they're above it-- that they can only appreciate it as a cultural artifact. While there are jerks who think that way, I feel like most of those claiming ironic detachment are just as into it as any out-of-the-closet hip hop fan.

Point is the fried chicken bit is way over the line, and DJ Pumpsta's probably a total drag to hang out with. But chances are most of the people at his dances are not racists, but squares.

Leon, this is totally OTM. However, I see a larger problem with the way these specific parties are themed.

But calling it "Kill Whitey" and having this theme of "killing the whiteness inside," basically translates to, "let's all act BLACK for a night," where black=loose, crazy, hyper-sexual, etc. The organizer, ironically or not, treats it like some kind of role-play. That's why it crosses the line.

Of course, it's not active confrontional racism because it sounds like the whole point is that there's no black people there! But, it's NYC, so there's probably a token or 3 around. I wish they would've gotten interviewed, but then again they'd probably echo the "if you can't get the joke, I can't help you" sentiment.

I've been trying to think of a reverse type party and the closest I can come to is an Afropunk type deal. They share a "trying to be myself away and enjoy what I like with people like me" but Kill Whitey is all about the blackface where Afropunk parties are "finally I don't have to be the only one!"

xpost Heh Morley.

Hell, back in Ann Arbor, they call it The Bang, which takes more cues from mod than anything else. It's not that there isn't plenty of a irony; they don't actually DJ, they just play mixtapes prepared earlier that day. fortunately, the bullshit racial element isn't there.

man, if nothing else, it's interesting what mental/cultural gymnastics are needed to get uptight indie kids anywhere to a dance party/club. Perhaps this is what happens when you don't have a new drug flooding the scene which facilitates such behavior.

I live in LA so my Hollertronix exposure is limited to seeing Diplo w/ MIA twice, first in February at the Knitting Factory show (apparently a more typical set, where he spun for about 30 minutes before MIA went on and then on into the night after her set wound down), and then a few months ago on the tour with LCD (where he spun for like 10-15 minutes, no joke).

I don't think it's very fair to judge the LCD/MIA performance since it wasn't the best environment for DJs in general (not that the World's Most Joyless Audience Ever helped anything out - HOW THE FUCK WAS I THE ONLY PERSON DANCING TO "HOT LIKE WE" FFS), but the Knitting Factory show sure didn't seem like it was being appreciated ironically - the second half of Diplo's set (where he started dropping then-new-to-me baile stuff like the remix of "Sweet Dreams") had the floor moving crazier than most of my e'd-up trips to Spundae. It's worth pointing out that the Knitting Factory show may have been the most racially diverse show I've ever been to, although it's also worth pointing out that black people might have been the most underrepresented group there (or maybe my memory is just fogged with memories of all the unbelievably hot Indian & Filipino girls out that night).

All the stories about Diplo flying down to Rio to buy records definitely tempts me to give him a bit of a pass on cultural appropriation. Stuff like the leaving-the-artists-names-off-the-CD bit still make me uncomfortable (I mean that's literally exactly what I do when I can't resist showing off for my friends when I make them mix CDs), but actually buying a plane ticket is a whole different level of commitment.

Also, I'm reading Turn The Beat Around right now and wondering whether straight people dancing to disco in any way reflects on this. I don't DJ (although I'd like to), but wouldn't it be somewhat culturally uncomfortable to play something like "Menergy" to a non-gay audience, regardless of the song's merits?

In conclusion: someone should park a Bonneville in Pumpsta's urethra.

I hasten to add that in order to match up with the article, one would have to start a night called something atrocious like "DANCE LIKE TEH FAGGOTZ" and offer free admission to anyone who brings a tube of KY or something.

GENERATION L! THEY'RE ALL LISA SUCKDOG FANS!

Did anyone see Lisa Carver's essay in this month's Glamour magazine about her son "Zach"?

an far as playing menergy to non-gay audiences, I mean, disco was always so much predominantly gay, and so many hits are menergetic, both in style and lyrical content that I'd say it'd be harder to play a disco set and avoid such things!

What is more condescending is how Diplo packages his mix tape’s second volume, Favela Strikes Back, so that it’s more palatable to North American ears. A seasoned hip-hop masher, Diplo fills out the beats and layers the baile over James Brown, Rick James, Prodigy, and Annie Lennox breaks until it’s not even folk music anymore. The tracks don’t have names and the liner notes offer no clarifying information—does Mr. Piracy Funds Terrorism even own the rights?—so it’s impossible to ascertain the identities of the MCs you hear. So between the screamy guy repeating “Idelizia” on track 10 and the pre-pubescent boy’s nasal vowels on track 8, you get a fresh, lively crossover dance record that is, while interesting, kind of insulting to the real Rio baile funk Diplo obviously adores.

http://www.citypaper.com/music/recordreview.asp?id=9194

-- kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (jdsalmo...), August 26th, 2005.

Is it really named after Royal Oak MI?! Seriously?

Two things:

1. It is completely yuppie now, but it was totally bohemian up until like 5 years ago. Now they moved to Ferndale.
2. ...I live in Royal Oak. This makes me sad.

It’s condescending in a way, because it implies baile funk is like hip-hop with a Rain Man IQ, and the implication is that by listening to this stuff we can somehow learn to really party—like Brazilians do.

Just because YOU read that into it doesn't mean that's what Diplo is doing!

give me some names pls - I like the Herb and Skills camp alright but they can be a little strident, beyond them the only Athens stuff I've heard is Iron Triangle, which I did really like.

When I got to the show
Yo, ho, ho
I could tell that you had been crying, crying
It's that same sing song and the DJ sucks
It makes me sad
I tried to turn it off
To say goodbye, my love
That radio song
Hey, hey, hey

Check it out
What are you saying
What are you playing
Who are you obeying
Day out day in?
Baby, baby, baby, baby
That stuff is driving me crazy
DJs communicate to the masses
Sex and violent classes
Now our children grow up prisoners
All their lives radio listeners

Right, exactly. That was my point in highlighting the quote.

But for the record, I think Baile Funk is some of the most boring crap I've ever heard, and I don't see why people are so excited about Booty Bass (which was mostly boring the first time) done in another language.

???

in this particular case, it's not cool to actually give a fuck and care about popular black music, but to have a bit of fun with it, to regard popular black music as a joke and to play-act for a few hours, that's fine. because it shouldn't be taken seriously, right?

yeah exactly, i'm sure he puts on his best I DONT WANT NO TROUBLE face out on the street too lol

aight its been years since i lived there so im gonna try to remember everybody i actually knew back then- outside of bubba there was 2 more dungeon fam affiliates in athens everybody always forgets which is the group LOW DOWN N DUDDY, they would occasionally hype for him if he was doin a local show and duddy ken has rapped on a couple of his albums, had their own cd out too called GA MOBBIN in '00 or '01 which i used to have a copy of but let dude borrow it and never got it back, some thoughtful, strugglin type lyrics and then some get buck/sex jam tracks, i believe at least one organized noize cut but mostly self produced. the alpha omega label i worked for had a full line-up before they went bankrupt (they were on broad street at the cab place next to jamaica me crazy- all the rappers also drove taxis), LIL NOC was the only dude who actually had a cd and video done (CLASSIC CITY LIVIN, his biggest song was the 'a.t.h. thuggin') but my favorite rapper outta that click was a man by the name of TAT who had a kinda deep scarface/z-ro style, his cd never dropped tho (duddy ken outta low down n duddy did some production for alpha omega and lil noc back then as well- he worked on iron triangle too!! duddy is a legend in athens hiphop). the alpha-omega ppl usedta throw big dirty south field fests out towards watkinsville but they ran outta cash eventually and fucked up so much that most of the drivers quit or went to other cab places. also there was dreaded mindz if you like that freestyle boho shit (i dunno if you count them as the herb & skillz camp or not- ishues solo cd was aight in a 90s way, good beats), theres a mystikal type cat named mr noid from the west side who dropped a solid album called GUTTAMUZIK, there was a 90s southern group called rockwilders who had a couple singles out at least, and i knew a clarke central kid who did some freestyles over no limit beats back in 02 and had a cd-r you could get at mixtape spots. i think thats about it unless you wanna count danger mouse or some shit!!

as stated elsewhere, this is also pretty standard fare for djs of all styles, so people can't bite what you're playing, so it's less likely you'll get sued, etc.

i gave an E-40 cd to a co-worker who is white, midwestern and cites hiphop as her favorite type of music. i probably know less about hiphop than the average person, but have an E-40 cd, probably b/c he's crossed the indie threshold. so i gave her my lone E-40 cd, b/c i think its pretty good. she listened and got this really SOUR expression on her face. then turned to me and said.."this is WEIRD, this isn't like Snoop Dogg. i like stuff that's got an edge like Snoop Dogg and Eminem. i was like yeah, i don't know well, its older. she said "yeah. ....i think its OLD SCHOOL or something....its weird". she looked at me like she'd been spooked. i'm not sure what that example is for..but it was just a really curious conversation.

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Sunday, August 28, 2005
The Washington Post: “The Whitie We are Trying to Kill.”
On August 26, 2005, The Washington Post published Deejay's Appeal: 'Kill The Whiteness Inside': an article describing the party Kill Whitie as an all white scene that’s attempting to appropriate blackness. MSNBC, as well as other national publications also ran the story. The founders of Kill Whitie, including co-promoter, Lil Rae Rae, co-deejay Sha na na na, and choreographer, da Wondaho, all women of color, sat down to appropriate a little culture of their own over dumplings and noodles. The topic of the conversation was their absence from the Post’s article. The distraught, but not discouraged, Pumpsta listened as Sha na na na stated:

“This is bull-shit, we both dined with Michelle Garcia from The Washington Post, drank wine, she was bumming cigarettes off me. How can you talk to someone for hours and then pretend that [Sha na na na] merits no mention.”

Lil Rae Rae jumps in. “What did you expect? It’s The Washington Post.”

“I was the only one in the article, how could I be doing this by myself, we all started this together.” Pumpsta adds.

Wondaho shakes her head in disgust. “Man it’s just another black voice lost”

Lil Rae Rae concludes. “They want to know what Kill Whitie is, they’ll never know because they’re the whitie we’re trying to kill.”

In an infantile act to create racial boundaries The Washington Post omitted truths, attempting to achieve the obscure angel they desire. It is questionable that the Post would choose to run such a fraudulent article in the Nation section, when there are so many more prominent acts of racial bias that should be addressed. There is no reason to travel all the way to Brooklyn to witness the whitewashing of this country. Perhaps the Washington post should focus their attention on the Whities closer to home.

-KILL WHITIE

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The fried chicken thing, naming it "kill whitie" and the way this is promoted still stink to high heaven. The ironic championing of a "black" or otherwise ethnic culture as superior or at least comical sucks. The difference I see between this and Hollertronix is that this shit seems to have the undercurrent of "hah, we know something they don't but we enjoy this music despite that knowledge" whereas Hollertronix seems to be more about recognizing that people creating this "other" music know something that we don't so it's worth seeking out.

I believe those women are "co-founders" of this party like I believe Benzino is "co-founder" of The Source. Funny how these co-founders and co-deejays have never been mentioned once in all the flyers printed for the event:
http://www.milkthebeef.com/kw/kw_flyers_updateframe.htm

This is a sad bit of last-minute "I have Black friends!" damage control.

http://www.flatblacknova.com/buszek/PoMoSeminar/PoMoReadings/BangsWhite.pdf

Yes. It is. Thanks for your link. I didn't realize they had mixtapes with credits on them! In any case, outside of hip-hop, I've seen thousands of disco, house, techno, club etc mix tapes all with just the song-name. I-F did this with Mixed Up At the Hague as well. And countless club and hip-hop bootlegs. It's a very common practice. What, do you think I made that up?

Jeremy voyaged from Atlanta to New York, where he began playing with the Williamsburg, Brooklyn consciousness by spray-painting the phrase "Kill Whitie" on various pieces of garbage and altered vintage clothing couture. This mysterious message was an ironic commentary on the rising tide of white urban hipsters that were rapidly massing in the area like so many waterlogged umbrellas to umbrella holders. Soon the message was everywhere and Jeremy decided it was time to open the floodgates and promote a party that few could envision, but none would forget. Influenced by the hip-hop spirit of areas like Southern Bangladesh, Atlanta and Miami, Jeremy, and his baby cousin Lil Rae-Rae, set about crafting a party that would appeal to an ample audience, from young politicians to old Dominicans, and bring a hot and profound dance party to a largely gentrification nation invasion. Kill Whitie, the party, was created in the humid and sexy summer of 2001.

It's so on!

People love kissing ass and after all, who doesn't enjoy killing Whitie?

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white urban hipsters like Jeremy himself.

this quote will be extremely helpful in future ILM threads!

Monday, August 29th 2005
Tha Pumpsta DJs & MCs the Frying Pan
Pier 63 North River
West 23rd Street & the Westside Highway
Behind Basketball City, 1 pier North of Chelsea Piers
C E to 23rd
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one could extend this to the adoption of working class trappings; PBR, trucker hats, "ironic" mustaches, etc.

Lil Rae Rae jumps in. “What did you expect? It’s The Washington Post.”

wtf? are these more of those Vice conservatives we've heard about?

exactly. one could extend this to the adoption of working class trappings; PBR, trucker hats, "ironic" mustaches, etc.

Lil Rae Rae jumps in. “What did you expect? It’s The Washington Post.”

wtf? are these more of those Vice conservatives we've heard about?

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oops, now look what I did. I'm just as bad now.

I'd say these days they've got more than 5 cop cars outside Insomnia during events. They've even instated this anti-cruising law (proclaimed by a dorky sign on the corner of Hull & Clayton) that you've violated if you pass the same spot more than once/hour. Interestingly this seems to be in enforced only on the nights Insomnia is open. Of course, that's not hipsters' fault, but neither do they question such measures. When I told some people I had gone there earlier in the night, they looked incredulous, like "where's your stab wound?"

cuz i usually claim georgia hipsters are just earnest sonic youth dudes or fat beardy pet sounds nerds and arent struck by the hollertronix/pumpsta strain of whiteboy gangsta irony of new york vice magazine kids but this totally kills that!!! haha, is the ESG cover band implicated in this as well?

Not to telegraph my jokes, but I once had a dog that looked like that... whose name was Whitey.

He was a good dog and, seriously, no one should kill him.

Is that what they're calling getting drunk and sniffing a lot of blow nowadays?

This williamsburg pride thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. What's up with equating "hipster" culture with long-standing ethnicities and cultures in the neighborhood? Every time I see things spelled out like "old Polish women, Puerto Ricans, Hasidic Jews.." I wonder why there's some lame attempt to pretend there's an all-conquering "hipster culture" that should be represented instead of just saying that it's young people that moved there because they liked the diversity and culture of the neighborhood. I'd imagine there are a lot of people who fit that description who live there and don't give a shit about half the stuff that is spouted off. You can do your own thing and respect other cultures without trying to co-opt race and gender issues and make them your own. Unless your shtick is co-opting race and gender issues, I guess.

Do the ladies really grind up on Da Pumpsta though? Or is that yet another fabrication?

Who remembers that Onion headline:

Ironic Porn Purchase Leads to Unironic Ejaculation

-- Eve Sibley (ev...), September 1st, 2005.

I'm scratching my head a little at this.

So, basically this is the party version of www.we-love-black-people-gay-people-and-well-other-types-of-people-too-and-oh-yeah-smack-dat-ass.com ?

i completely agree. at hllrtrnx [am i the only person on this thread that actually attends this?] its all about having fun and hearing new stuff. in fact, its one of the few events in philly where not-so-obvious music is played to large crowds. yeah, there's some obvious stuff played as well but i think its done with real enthusiasm. the crowd at hllrtrnx is pretty varied, in my opinion. the only downside is that these days, fights keep breaking out at it, so i stopped going.

i get the impression that KW is about something completely different, something very kitschy.

It's over. Nothing to see here. Shoo!

I've been and totally hated it. In a way, what really is the difference between that and this party -- minus free entry with a bucket of chicken? Corny white people all "ohmigod, look at this flyer! Thugs and big booty hoes..that's so rad! We can go 'pop' our booties like a video ho! Haha...I can't wait to tell the girls in my yoga class that I could 'drop it like it's hot' because of the exercises we've been doing!" White people have liked/been dancing/been experiencing hip hop damned near from the beginning. You're not special nor unique just because you put down the Smog long enough to see a Lil Jon video last week. You are not on some "next level" shit. You want to go dance at a hip hop party? Go to a fucking club like everyone else does. Or at least admit that you're a pussy who gets uncomfortable in situations where you're not the majority and don't want to deal with that. Because news flash every non-white person who has non-stereotypical tastes has to do it all the time.

Yo Nick,

No disrespect, but I wouldn't say that about my work at all. We keeps it hot this year.

That's your boy...

Kanye

it even stays crunchy in milk. how could you not give in?

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Last one there's a stiff whitey!

Sounds vaguely familiar...

Direct this question to Mark Grubstein, a 36-year-old artist, and he says the Kill Whitie parties speak to something inside of him. "I make art about that, that's my life," he said. "It's based on the idea that things that are funny are the deepest."

He shrugs.

"If you don't see it's funny," he said, "I can't help you."

fvkctuard

This is not something I stay up at night thinking about. You, on the other hand, seem to have a problem with the idea that anyone might find you worth making fun of, or perhaps worth anything at all. Please let me assure you, as a fellow Person of Whiteness, that in fact your ass would not be worth pissing on even if your hemorrhoids were on fire, and that the rest of you probably should consider removing your brain as a sign of righteous protest. If your brain is in fact IN your ass causing the hemorrhoids, then that is not terribly surprising.

Now, having said that, kill yourself, and please bury your body in an unmarked grave so it won't get dug up and hung in effigy.

what, u fvkctuard

I talked to tha Pumpsta on Wednesday and he said he was interested in holding a benefit night for the victims of the hurricane. What are you doing?

calling u (and the Pumpsta) fvkctuards

You are a liar.

haha "i have black friends too!"

stick to what you know, which is presumably recreational coke habits and american apparel

Like I said, you're a liar.

This "Jamie" seems like a real find--young, hip, vocally stupid AND a "South Park Republican".

MOMMY MAKE IT STOP

Perhaps being where I am I fail to see the "equality" of your friends ironic t-shirt and some black comedian's jokes about honkeys or whatever--as far as I can tell, it's generally white people who have the positions of authority and privilege to back up their "jokes" with the threat of prejudicial oppression. You're correct in a strict, ideal sense that all racial jokes are racist--or equally somehow not-racist-if-ironical. But it's naive to pretend that the power behind the words isn't far different. I'm willing to bet you wouldn't take your "rad party" to Bed-Stuy or Harlem, no? That'd be one instance where your privilege to make these kind of fun jokes wouldn't get you very far.

You're right, s1ocki. Can't be real. But why would a freeper bother with ILM?

True, but as Eve whatshername posted here, one never knows.

s1ocki otm!

I'm sorry, but bullshit. This guy knows how all this would look to people in parts of Brooklyn other than Williamsburg, parts he wouldn't take his schtick to. Not even to mention the liberal whites who've "can't be helped" because they don't get it.

He played with fire because he knew it was fire, and he knew it would burn, and he knew he could get away with it in his safe little micro-world. Not even spoilt Williamsburg trust funders could be so naive to think it was "just fun".

..and if not, go..

http://shopping.yahoo.com/video/images/muze/vhs/sm/02/106002.jpg MELON CRAZY!!!!!

"...In a discussion with one of the owners we got the following clever quotes: 'I think at first there was a little bit of (doing it for shock value), but now there's some backtracking..well what does it all mean...but it was initially (for shock value)...The whole idea of color never crossed my mind...Nobody wants to get rid of their whiteness, that would be stupid...It's just about busting balls.'

...After reaching an impasse with one of the women who ran the party we asked if Tha Pumpsta could come out. He came out smug and cocky and upon being challenged by one of the women about the bucket of chicken = free entrance offer he asked her whether she'd actually been to one of his parties. She said no. He said "Well come in and dance." Another woman said she wasn't certain it was the kind of place where she would want to dance as the whole thing seemed racist. He then turned his back called another woman of color who was standing out there and told her to "Come dance with the racist", she dutifully followed, and that was that with him..."

I advise everyone to click on the link and read the full LJ entry. It's far more telling than the already telling quotes above here.

He quoted the Severed Heads album title incorrectly.

Bless you, Ned. I hope Dan S., Dan P., and the Aus Pausse caught that, at the very least.

"GUILT.. TEE HEE!"

JP: Honestly, the core people who have been coming to Kill Whitie have been coming for four years. I've known a lot them from Atlanta, that's just the music they listen to. It's about dancing and it's a very sincere thing. People come to Kill Whitie ready to dance, and they're so amazed at how many people are actually dancing in a city where nobody dances, where you can't dance.

I was in New York last summer.. I barely did anything that qualifies as "adventurous" for an NYC visit yet I easily found myself at three dance parties with almost zero effort (thanks to Dan S., Andy B., Aaron W., Phil-2, stence, lauren, DDB, and many others.) Didn't have to wear any t-shirts that ironically said "WIGGA", "JUNGLE", or "SEGREGATION" either (is that what Pumpsta's t-shirt above says?)

"a city where nobody dances"

(With all due respect Nick, while it's good to have a succinct piece that gets their side of the story.. I'm still looking for the elusive objective take on all of this. Jay's comes the closest since he and friends were actually there. I've met Jay, and I'm quite confident he wouldn't lie about shit like that.)

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-Jeremy Parker (Tha Pumpsta)

The median income for a household in the county is $58,289, and the median income for a family is $67,649. Males have a median income of $45,362 versus $33,453 for females.

The racial makeup of the county is 72.40% White, 18.80% Black or African American, 0.26% Native American, 3.06% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 3.58% from other races, and 1.87% from two or more races.

"I offered free admission to ONE of my parties because it was the debut of "MAMMY!". I often collaborate with individuals of all races who work in circuses and who embrace goth culture, so we are often in blackface at "I-chRONIC". I am a goth! I always wear blackface. My intentions are not racist, vulgar, or insincere."

you did luck out...it's really hard to throw/find a good dance party in nyc.

Seriously? Well, I take that back then.

I got majorly screwed by MTA almost the entire time though, but got really lucky with dance parties.. so karma, yin, yang, etc.

Did I mention he looks like a tool? Seriously, he looks like some kid who used to shove me in gym class in middle school.

'Kill' and 'Whitie' are words (well, 'kill' is...).

SF: It's ridiculous that people don't have anything better to do than to sit on the computer and blog Kill Whitie.

RR: ...

Gee, do you think maybe he's coming across as a "smug insincere fucktard" because he just spent a week defending obviously false racist charges aimed at both himself and his party?

Also, suggesting he is "using his minority women friends as springboard props" is a ridiculous charge. You're suggesting that white people are only friends with black people for reasons of exploitation and black culture credibility.

I originally took offense at this party, the fried chicken gimmick, and the WP article quotes, and posted as such. Now that I have all the information, it's clear the only thing to find offensive is the people who are still bothering to try to label this guy a racist.

The smear still being lauched at this guy and his party on this thread rings like some neo-con morality police bullshit and it's sickening.

YEAH! KILL WHITIE!

but to use miccio's logic w/r/t yyt's "wait", criticize at your own self-revealing risk. maybe the guy just really likes fried chicken. i mean i fucking love fried chicken. i like po boys too. i'm not sure that's how tha pumpsta means it, but it's sorta shitty to racebait kneejerk like this, because in practice things are more nuanced, less (ha) black and white.

new tshirt! new tshirt! somebody get Neighborhoodies on the phone!

The Washington Post assumed the role of labeling what is 'white' music and what is 'black' music

.....

Another thing you said about the shittiness of "racebait kneejerk"-ing.. are you still referring to The Pumpsta in that context? Or the detractors in this thread? Or both?

I would tend to disagree.

racist = ignorant

ignorant = idiot

racist = idiot

...then I see your point.

This guy's not a "I hate black people" racist, though. He's just an idiot who doesn't realize that his poor attempts at humor and irony come off as racist and offensive to many people. And I think, despite the free publicity angle, he's been paying for it recently.

Other events I don't feel impelled to travel across the country to attend prior to passing judgment: Republican National Conventions, Klan rallies, R. Kelly concerts... (not that any of these are necessarily analogous to Kill Whitey dance parties, just examples to illustrate one does not have to jump off a cliff to verify that it isn't a good idea).

...his guy's not a "I hate black people" racist, though. He's just an idiot who doesn't realize that his poor attempts at humor and irony come off as racist and offensive to many people.

You know, Jsoulja, the one thing I haven't called the guy is a racist because it would be too easy really. The guy is a smug insincere fucktard because he's off feeling the flames of public opinion/disapproval on his ass since he bared is so thoroughly and his defense is "it's a joke!"/"I've got a race pass, I can do what I want." I don't really care if the NAACP is co-sponsoring his party and holding bake sales there when the flyers promise free entry with a bucket of chicken and their promotional tools is to use disembodied black body parts/symbolism to indicate that they are promising a good old crunk time without the "hassle" of "agressive" black people there to "spoil" the fun. He is using his friends as a springboard prop to say "they agree and are helping, so it's okay." Yet it's not okay. Even if the party was 99.9% black except for Tha Pumpsta, it would not be not okay because fuck it, the bottom line is that there really has to be some form of creativity besides "big black ass here (well not really), come get loose!" in 2005. People like Tha Pumpsta are almost worse than the hooded types because their racism and prejudice is so coded that you really must be just be a killjoy if you don't "get" their humor. The fact that he is so obstinant and unrepentant in his loathsomeness makes me want to crawl on Bedford Avenue naked rather than give a dime to support him, that party, or that venue.

OK, I call bullshit, Nick. Sorry. I've seen flyers for ghetto-tech/DJ assult type stuff. I remember flyers back in the day for Miami Bass.. and also late 80s L.A. techno/scratching... yes, disembodied asses have always been a constant symbol of club iconography. But black asses were never exclusive and still are not exclusive to ANY of these, except Kill Whitie, and a lot of purposely lewd hip hop/club promoted by and for predominantly black audiences. In more shocking news, latin based bootie club nights feature a lot of *gasp* disembodied latina asses. It sounds like you're trying to make this more complex than it really is, Nick.

Casady was raised in Santa Barbara, Calif., but quickly notes her worldliness by listing the cities where she has lived along the trail to Brooklyn. A regular Kill Whitie partygoer, she tried the conventional (that is, non-hipster) hip-hop clubs but found the men "really hard-core." In this vastly whiter scene, Casady said that "it's a safe environment to be freaky."

dude look at the quotes. what you think she says is the effect of what's betwixt. how do i know? i do the same exact shit. it's not journalism, but i never act like what i do is. this article is all about michelle garcia exposing extremely strawmanned racism. and you bought into it, like most every other fucking clown on the internet anxious to Make A Point about something, Anything, hook/line/etc.

because the other parties cassidy is talking about are scary. lots of really junky dudes, many of them bridge n tunnel, raging drunk, big muscles, anxious to fuck. that's what she meant by hardcore. it has nothing to do with clubs being predominantly black, which last time i checked, there might be like 3 or 4 clubs like that in manhattan. these parties have hefty covers, expensive drinks, and call it ageism, but people over 40 wearing party shirts and swinging around freak me the fuck out. if i was a girl just looking to dance to hip-hop music, it's a variable i wouldn't want to deal with.

which brings me all the way back to this being not a black vs. white thing so much as a young vs. old thing. but who wants to talk about that.

xpost: donut please, black asses aren't exclusive to kill whitie either.

xpost: shawn d please, i spent 500 words on this out of the 5000 i wrote this week, this isn't gonna be anybody's watergate, not even yours (the d's for deepthroat, right; suck a dick)

you obviously more than usual have no fucking clue what you're talking about, you asinine fucking hack.

you obviously more than usual have no fucking clue what you're talking about, you asinine fucking hack.

you obviously more than usual have no fucking clue what you're talking about, you asinine fucking hack.

which brings me all the way back to this being not a black vs. white thing so much as a young vs. old thing. but who wants to talk about that.

I'm not shedding a tear nor really caring to defend the WaPo writers, mind you. I'm just wondering why Pumpsta thought his consistent theme is a good idea to keep consistent. While I'd cringe, I could deal with "Kill Whitie" and all it entails being a one-off, minus the free-entrance-with-fried-chicken thing and similar. But to keep it consistent, and to have people adorned in Wham! video takes on ironic words associated with racial guilt is not only an uncomfortable concept to me, but also really fucking weird the more I think about it...

xpost: donut please, black asses aren't exclusive to kill whitie either.

I've never seen the entire oeuvre of the Kill Whitie flyer collection, sadly, so I apologize if I assumed they were predominantly black asses. Given the name of his event is called "Kill Whitie", I ASS-U-ME'd. (Nyuk nyuk nyuk.)

I guess my point is.. can't he just phase the theme out? I don't doubt the success of his parties, but I doubt they'd require the theme to succeed. I don't think anyone here is defending the theme; they're defending Da Pumpsta. Now, unless I'm blind to NYC cabaret law politics, and Bloomberg gives grants to dance clubs that promote shocking and titillating feelings about racial guilt as "art statements" or something, I don't see a fucking reason for "Kill Whitie", but I have nothing against dance parties with asses on the promo flyers thrown by Da Pumpsta. Just kill the "Kill Whitie" part.

What an amazingly intelligent retort.

i'm more interested in simply pointing out that reading anything Tha Pumpsta says is like watching someone who can't punch their way out of a wet paper bag. And at least bad stand-up comics refrain from saying shit like "if you don't see it's funny, I can't help you." When they bomb, the audience lets them know and they have to eat it.

this is also a good point that got lost in the mire:

ha, even if this shit isn't racist, it's classist. keep it hipster and safe and fake and distanced and as a "commentary", y'all, stay away from the real people at ground level, because then you wouldn't be special "performance artists", you'd be just like everyone else.

-- gear (speed.to.roa...), September 1st, 2005 6:03 PM.

If you scratch beyond their art-school shock tactic veneer, you find it's just a smokescreen, and what's being covered up (lack of talent, substance, etc.) is worth being discussed. and maybe even that young vs. old thing, if only to get Nick S. to stfu.

at best, assuming Tha Pumpsta is as 'down from day 1' and sincere as he says he is, he's still catering to retards who can't just get to down to the fucking music without feeling superior and distanced and he knows it, knew it before the first party began.

oh noes, the thread is dying!

WHAT DID NICK KNOW AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?

i know it's not funny, just trying to learn how to post pictures like the other trolls.

(posted in a new thread cos i didn't see this one -- thanks ned.)

DOUCHEBAG

Is Kill Whitie still killing whities?

http://www.savoystyle.com/whiteys_lindy_hoppers.html

Kill Whitie party maven Tha Pumpsta holds it down in NYC this weekend to celebrate double LP release of Bass Black Treble White.

“The ultimate postmodern lothario” – CMJ

“11! It’s all good as long as you’re really stoned and/or drunk.“ – Vice

“I have to admit his presence is electric, as if The Doors’ Jim Morrison and 2 Live Crew’s Luther Campbell had merged into one body.” – Jason Tanz OPP: A Shadow History of Hip-Hop in White America (Bloomsbury Press)

Inspired by the Martin Luther King Jr. quote “I believe that a day will come when all God’s children from bass black to treble white will be significant on the constitution’s keyboard.” Tha Pumpsta aka Jeremy Parker’s second album Bass Black Treble White tackles the paradox of the seven sins (“treble white”) and seven virtues (“bass black”) represented by the fourteen tracks.

If you’re in the NYC area, join us this weekend for special performances by Tha Pumpsta and Living Days to celebrate the release of the 2XLP edition of Bass Black Treble White. One black vinyl representing the seven virtues and one white vinyl representing the seven sins. Then follow along to the after party featuring DJs Leb Laze, Stay High, Tha Pumpsta, Taka, and Elizabeth. Info below.

Tha Pumpsta Live:
Milk The Beef and Fanatic Presents:
Live performances from: Tha Pumpsta (LINK) and Living Days (LINK). Featuring DJs: Taka and Elizabeth.
Sat. August 23, 2008 from 7:00pm - 10:00pm. Login and RSVP at Facebook HERE.
Capricious Space, Brooklyn (LINK) (103 Broadway btw Bedford and Berry)
Celebrate the release of the limited edition 2XLP version of Bass Black Treble White.
JMZ to Hewes or L to Lormier. Walk south on Broadway to Hewes.

Milk The Beef and Fanatic Presents:
Celebrate the release of the limited edition 2XLP version of Bass Black Treble White.
Sat. August 23, 2008 from 10:00pm - 4:00am. Login and RSVP at Facebook HERE.
With DJs: Leb Laze, Stay High, Tha Pumpsta, DJ Taka, and Elizabeth.
Trophy Bar, Brooklyn (351 Broadway btw Keap and Rodney)
JMZ to Marcy. Walk south on Broadway or L to Bedford. Walk south ‘til Broadway.

More about Bass Black Treble White:
Hit singles from Bass Black Treble White include “Move It” which offers a sexy duo between Tha Pumpsta and newcomer Autumn as well as “Octopus Armed” (MP3), a gluttonous-grime New York track. In addition there is also “Breath” that has an unmistakable Nine Inch Nails feel, “Don Juan” has a Baltimore two-step sound. Of course being from the ATL, Tha Pumpsta’s Bass Black Treble White is undeniably durty south.

“Kill Whitie!” addresses the hype and true nature of the party Kill Whitie! which was made famous by the controversial Washington Post piece (LINK). The track tells the story of a party that began with “Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, and lesbians” crowding the doorless bathroom of the stinger club to do bad street cocaine. The album doesn’t limit itself to any particular single sound, this is evident in “Nothing” in which Tha Pumpsta takes a moment to unearth his sensitive gay ass over what might as well be a My Bloody Valentine track. From Bass Black Treble White, Tha Pumpsta don’t discriminate.

Tha Pumpsta works alongside a diverse collection of homies including Black Cracker best known with her production work with CocoRosie and Bunny Rabbit. Long time musical partner and friend Derierre aka Shannon Funchess who regularly tours with !!! and sings with TV On The Radio. Derierre also shares the stage with Tha Pumpsta who are both front men of the notorious live rock / booty party band Durty Nanas.

The enhanced audio CD includes Grant Worth’s music video “Freeky” (VIDEO) filmed at an abandoned insane asylum in upstate New York the day before Halloween 2006. Tha Pumpsta also contributed his brilliant editing skills by hacking an early 90’s marine commercial for the music video “Temple.” (VIDEO) The Limited edition two-disk vinyl consists of one black vinyl and one white vinyl in a clear gatefold.

Bass Black Treble White Tracklisting:
National Release Date: September 2nd, 2008

01. 1987
02. Move It
03. Sallie Mae
04. Octopus Armed (MP3) | (VIDEO)
05. Add
06. Temple (VIDEO)
07. Don Juan
08. Breath
09. Spesh
10. Kill Whitie!
11. Clapp
12. Whoop Revisited
13. Freeky (VIDEO)
14. Nothing

More about Tha Pumpsta:
“I am Tha Pumpsta. What that means precisely is debatable. I tend to believe that I am Tha Pumpsta because I, like most people from the durty durty live life a little ‘crunk’.

Currently I am working on a third album and a 12-inch release titled “Tha Charm” with the song ‘L-0-V-E (No Crying at The Disco)’ which will include remixes by Black Cracker featuring Shunda K of Yo! Majesty and others. I just released Bass Black Treble White with the amazing people at Milk The Beef Records! National re-release this Fall. In addition to an enhanced audio CD, there is also a limited edition two-piece vinyl. One black vinyl representing the seven virtues and one white vinyl representing the seven sins. It is available in select stores and on pumpsta.com. (buy from me, it’s cheaper!) The audio CD comes enhanced with the music videos “Freeky” (VIDEO) by Grant Worth as well as “Temple” (VIDEO) a re-edit of some nostalgic marines footage I made myself. Watch it online or better yet, buy the album!

Also under my belt is the first Pumpsta album titled Alphabitize The Nation! I understand “alphabitize” is misspelled, but it was too late and Photoshop doesn’t have spell check so “alphabetize” stuck. I have done all the design and layout for my work including the new “Peace and Pumpsta” oversized UNI-T. This is also available on pumpsta.com or in select fancy boutiques, once again buy from me it’s cheaper!

I have worked with a whole slew of kats including Avenue D, Black Cracker and Bunny Rabbit, Gio Black Peter, Will Lemon, Gustavo Andrade and Stephonik and of course the amazing Shannon Funchess aka Derrière of !!!, TV on The Radio and every other amazing band you’ve ever heard in your life. As well as lots and lots of others I am sure I am forgetting to mention.

I love life, people, and music... Besides the recorder, my first “real” instrument was the trumpet in middle school. I was your typical overweight nerd who knew every word to “Whoop There It Is” by Tag Team (there is a cover of it on Bass Black Treble White.)

For three years I played in a band called Durty Nanas. In a safety deposit box rests recordings that under the guidance of God will be released one day. But only when humanity is ready… LOVE ALWAYS!

On The Web:
www.pumpsta.com
www.myspace.com/thapumpsta
www.milkthebeef.com

I was your typical overweight nerd who knew every word to “Whoop There It Is” by Tag Team

intersting

you obviously more than usual have no fucking clue what you're talking about, you asinine fucking hack.
classic thread

and of course followed by, "And I'm actually not irate at all..."

The whole party sounds like this themed Columbia kids house party that my friend dragged me to. It was "Ghetto Fabulous" which apparently means a lot of track suits, headbands, and wife beaters. Some chick turned to me and was like "what do you think about this outfit? Authentic, right?"
And I beat her to death.

― Candicissima (candicissima), Friday, August 26, 2005 4:42 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink