― Lord Custos, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
& "yes she is my skinhead girl" is a great indie pop song.
― fritz, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
But dud, especially for "Isabel".
― Tom, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
And Ms. Bridget Cross STILL needs to get that Panax / what-have-you project off zee ground, please?
― David Raposa, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Also, Bridget Cross = minimalist bass genius.
I may even like Flin Flon better than Unrest, just on the strength of "Swift Current" and _Boo Boo_ (the first album isn't as good).
― Douglas, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
He does it by listening to a lot of "What Goes On" and '89-90 Wedding Present? j/k
Unrest must haves:
― http://gygax.pitas.com, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
further covered "isabel" on their sometimes chimes 2xLP. really strange evocative version. speeded guitar/sample sounds like a harpsichord.
David is OTM, except I wouldn't really know. Well, I have the experience of sudden shock and joy, dragging myself up those imaginary stairs. The recognition component is high. Tom, in the chapter of your book on the tension between rhythm and recognition, anonymity vs. eye contact, in (not) dance music, you've got to mention Unrest! (The rhythm component isn't bad either, but I suppose glorious=not cool.)
I prefer Perfect Teeth to Imperial f.f.r.r., 'Make Out Club' and 'Six Layer Cake' to 'Suki' and 'Cherry Cherry'. It's better when Bridget sings the songs that are not supposed to be glorious, e.g., 'Light Command'. Her version of 'Winona Ryder' is also better than Mark's.
― youn, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I have to agree with Douglas on the "imperial f.f.r.r." being the "Another Green World" of indiepop bit. Thankfully, it was this record that got me into indie rock, and not something more uniform and less minimal. My favorite pieces on this album are, as David mentioned, the more warped difficult ones, like "Firecracker" and "Imperial". Tom, "Isabel" and "Cherry Cherry" don't exactly describe this album as a whole. If anything, this record kinda approximates the feel of a Tall Dwarfs record. "Imperial f.f.r.r." is a stunning record.
And over time, so is "Perfect Teeth", though it's more of an indie- pop record. "Angel I Will Walk You Home", "Cath Carroll", "Soon It's Going To Rain", "Food and Drink Synthesizer" (maybe getting the titles wrong here), "Stylized Ampersand" are all amazing songs.
"Malcolm X Park" and "Kustom Karnal Blackxploitation" are amazing in completely different ways. Then, they seem like a band that's sorta poking fun at Dischord while really drunk... though I think they serious... maybe. Is this where the whole punk-embracing-soul thing started? Seriously... the Make*Up must have listened to "Disko Magick" and ran with it, sans humor.
― Brian MacDonald, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Miranda, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― adam, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andy K, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― g, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
FYI, "Disco Magik" rips off the Red Hot Chili Peppers ("True Men Don't Kill Cayotes"). They staggered around a lot and could be smartass/obscurantist in the worst way--I hate Fuck Pussy Galore, most of Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation, most of Perfect Teeth, and all Air Miami. (I noticed Christgau hates Imperial but he seems to have no facility for trancing.) Unrest influencde much crap, too.
Still, they made a new kind of jam minimalism that built on Sonic Youth without copying. They heard what was beautiful about Beat Happening and applied it to what they took from Joy Division. They had a mystery about them that made mail-order pop seem fun for a couple years.
Classic: "Teenage Suicide" off Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation (cover of the tune from Heathers), Malcolm X Park LP, Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl EP, Cherry Cream On EP, that Sub Pop single of covers, Imperial f.f.r.r. (American version), BPM compilation CD, "Nation Writer" off Isabel Bishop CD, "Where Are All Those Puerto Rican Boys?" off promotional Cath Carroll CD, "Angel I Will Walk You Home" off Perfect Teeth. Also: The Olympic Death Squad CD (Robinson solo) and Flin Flon live.
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 24 August 2002 20:02 (twenty-three years ago)
On a side note, what do you all think of the 24 Hour Party People flick?
― Markian Uno, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 03:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 08:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 08:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 09:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 09:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 13:57 (twenty-three years ago)
unrest never did a damn thing for me, except one song off fuck pussy galore that i can barely remember. (i want to say track three, but that'll be some horrible shambling indie pop thing and i will look the fool.)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 14:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 15:38 (twenty-three years ago)
102 Beats that publication date = 26th September by the way, i.e. six months after part 1.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 15:41 (twenty-three years ago)
I get the feeling it needs to be thought of somewhat in context to be appreciated. American indie rock coming through into the nineties was pretty much deplorably rock: the 80s models were bands like the Replacements or Fugazi, big shouty crunchy-chord American rock bands, and just before 93 -- when Perfect Teeth was released -- a great grungy shot of even rawkier influence had been injected and toppled the whole thing over toward the mainstream. Meanwhile the UK was seeing stirrings of a less traditionalist indie approach -- Too Pure, roots of post-rock or what-have-you -- but while plenty of American bands were following this, they weren't really impacting the overall course of American indie, and even the American bands flogging that stuff in the UK, like Th Faith Healers, still had heavy doses of very American grit.
Perfect Teeth was not only an antidote to that but an advancement on it. It was entirely clean-lined: Robinson's big guitar blasts pretty much lacked distortion -- in America! in 1993! -- and instead gave us that frantic sped-up jangle that's distinctively his contribution to the lexicon. The record was also spacious, and spacey. At the point Stereolab was still working its wall-of-sound drone, but a lot of the tiny blip-tone melodies Unrest were constructing pointed ahead to the stuff Stereolab would be doing during a much later phase of their career -- the backing vocals at the end of "Angel I Will Walk You Home," for instance, this sort of concrete tone-placement approach that's all over the record. They managed to turn the foreground of their music into something like a Mondrian painting, the clean-lined blocks of particular tones, in a way that seemed to turn away from most of the other things going on at the time, and the sort of techy spaciness of those tones combined with Robinson's vague leaning toward some image of a 50s-style pop combo to create and probably surpass what would, four or five years later, become a major theme in indie internationally, even though no one connected that with anything Unrest had been doing.
It seemed cleaner and spacier and more friendly and cerebral than the highly-emotive rock idiom of the moment, and more bedroomy, and more personal: "Back when I was twenty / I didn't think anyone liked me." And it managed to set all of its most fascinating impulses in context: it functioned terrifically as a rock album, as a pop album, and as an "experimental" album. Which is, I think, a lot of why it gets praised so often, but also a lot of why it gets slated as a run-of-mill record: it certainly seems continuous with most of what else was going on at the time, but really it's quite difficult to come up with anyone else who sounded quite like them, or even anyone else who's particularly followed the techniques that were actually uniquely theirs.
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:03 (twenty-three years ago)
Well, I probably shouldn't have used the term "indie-pop" so loosely, as I meant it colloquially, and not as any sort of "pop" at all. Ooops.
Don't get me wrong. "Make Out Club" and maybe "Cath Carroll" had at least some potential for radio play, IMHO. But as a whole, "Perfect Teeth" is certainly not a 'pop' record.
Nabisco did a GRATE job of his summation of said record. Though, I'll add that since listening to a heavy dose of early Factory record bands since, I can now definitely hear those elements in almost all of Unrest, unique they may be, in the 90s. Mark Robinson would be the first to admit it. (Well, "A Factory record" is pretty much an admission right there)
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)
Also I think their post-Unrest projects do a good job of pointing up what was uniquely theirs: the minimalist concrete rock of Flin Flon is really quite intriguingly assembled, and deserves credit for feeling more like the propulsion of let's say Gang of Four than most of the bands actually imitating Gang of Four; and I still think the Air Miami record is lovely, a perfect showcase for the side of Robinson that's obsessed with arranging these clean hypnotic tones into breezy beachy pop songs. It also gets at his weird habit of taking Factory-style sounds but swinging them toward punchy major-key pop (the Stockholm Monsters are maybe the only precedent I can find for this, and it's still sort of different) -- as generally "new-wave" as they sound, it's tough to find very good analogies for the approaches of "Sweet Little Heartbreaker" or "Neely."
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 18:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 07:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)
I saw them live at Maxwells after Perfect Teeth and they did this long a capella bit that was beyond goofy. Bridgid Cross started to crack up in the middle of it, which was cool.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)
The bonus tracks aren't hugely revelatory (and fans probably have 'em already, except for the demos), but do buy it for the nice remastering job.
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)
this is the truest statement on this thread. as a guitar player, "cath carroll" makes me jealous. as a songwriter, "isabel" makes me jealous. as a grammarian, this paragraph is loaded with problematic sentences, but i'm too lazy to edit it.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)
There are a million things about the album I love, but I particularly love the double-tracked vocals on "Blushing" and how they diverge into non-obvious, amazing harmonies. Or on "June" where Bridget sings a pedal note for the "How did it feel to be 26 degrees?" part along with the main vocal melody.
...or how they put two instrumentals back to back, as if to say, "These are not throwaways" - and they are indeed essential! (On the other hand, I wouldn't have cared if they had left off "Food & Drink Synthesizer" from Perfect Teeth.) You have the drum machine precision of "Champion Nines" followed by the kinda-sloppy-but-in-a-good-way drumming of "Sugarshack".
Mark's guitar sound is just perfect. I mean, when I listen to the opening notes of "Goodbye," I'm practically in tears.
How does ILX rate the Phil Krauth solo albums? I only have Silver Eyes - it's okay, didn't really inspire me to buy more, though. That Panax song that was on one of the TeenBeat samplers was great. Do they have anything else?
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)
http://64.224.76.125/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=KRAD&Product_Code=KCD016&Category_Code=IJ
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
The Panax 7" is so so so so great. Their entire output is that 7" and the comp track which is also great.
― adam (adam), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
i'm gonna have to top and say completely fucking classic! i love this band so much.
― htshell, Saturday, 15 March 2008 16:49 (seventeen years ago)
I totally love their cover of "God Gave Rock and Roll To You". After being blown away by that in the early 90s I picked up Perfect Teeth and never really got into it. But that one cover was amazing.
― Euler, Saturday, 15 March 2008 17:07 (seventeen years ago)
And right you are for it! xpost
― mehlt, Saturday, 15 March 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)
After not listening to them for a year or so I random-shuffled onto "Imperial" the other day and was elated all over again. What a great band.
― Douglas, Sunday, 16 March 2008 15:04 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, to me they are just undeniably fantastic. Its so easy to call them one of my all time favorite bands.
The comparison to "what goes on" way up thread is very otm
― later arpeggiator, Sunday, 16 March 2008 15:58 (seventeen years ago)
Was just thinking about them a bit yesterday. Very glad to have caught them twice, both times great.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 March 2008 16:12 (seventeen years ago)
I saw them the night Bill Clinton was elected! They were great.
Was just reading Matos' "great out-of-print albums" column on Perfect Teeth in Idolator the other day.
― sleeve, Sunday, 16 March 2008 16:15 (seventeen years ago)
'I do believe that you are blushing'was always a favourite of mine Beautiful. That album (Imperial...) on the wonderful and badly missed Ajax records for a while?
I have an album by Unrest in my loft that sounds more like I thought Unrest would sound - punk. And it's not the one with the girl on the cover.I've just done a fruitless, probably lazy, google and not found it. Any ideas?
― Fer Ark, Sunday, 16 March 2008 20:31 (seventeen years ago)
Sorry - talking to myself here - think it was their first album
― Fer Ark, Sunday, 16 March 2008 20:34 (seventeen years ago)
Malcolm X Park?
― Mackro Mackro, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)
One of my favorite bands of all time.
Fortunately, I was visiting friends in DC and was there for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQbUIgn7PIs. You find crazy shit on the internets.
― Bill in Chicago, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:37 (seventeen years ago)
Hmmm, I just noticed that the two Air Miami demo cassettes are available from Teenbeat on CDR. I have mp3s of one of them...not bad. May have to place an order.
― dlp9001, Monday, 17 March 2008 00:38 (seventeen years ago)
Listening to Imperial F.F.R.R. for the first time in forever (nice remastered LP reissue). Might like it better now than I did then, and that's saying a lot. A lot a lot a lot a lot. Especially digging the more abstract tracks that seemed so much less immediately appealing when I first heard it. Best semi-unheralded U.S. indie rock LP of the early 90s? I dunno. How much competition is there? More than anything, I like how of its time and genre it sounds without sounding like anything else out there. It presents itself superficially as this casually scruffy, almost tossed-off object, very much in the style of the moment, but the arrangement and sequencing are incredibly well integrated. is It doesn't "break barriers" or invent a whole new pop aesthetic, but it hums along with this oddly propulsive slackness and hits it out of the park song after song after song. I can see why some might be annoyed by the sentimental directness of "Isabel", but it's short and sweet enough for me to accept without qualms. In fact, Isabel's only deficiency is its tendency to be held up as the album's avatar (when Imperial & Loyola obviously deserve that honor). Only thing I really miss is "Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl", and maybe the 7" version of "Cherry Cherry". "Wednesday and Proud"?
Now I wanna dig out Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation and Perfect Teeth.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 02:28 (sixteen years ago)
It's just not Imperail ffrr without Yes She is My Skinhead Girl and Wednesday and Proud.
― EDB, Sunday, 11 October 2009 12:57 (sixteen years ago)
Must be a UK v. US thing - I don't associate those songs with Imperial f.f.r.r. at all. Good songs, but in my mind would tip the album toward a poppier vibe than it should be.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 October 2009 13:03 (sixteen years ago)
I'm North American but have a UK version. Those are two of the best songs on the album, and I couldn't live without them (I guess US distributers were a bit sketched out about songs about fucking skinhead girls on sandy beaches?)
Also I was shocked to find out how bored I was by Perfect Teeth about a month ago. I spent a long time looking for a copy, and now aside from utter classics like Angel I'll walk you home, Breather xoxo and six layer cake, I can barely be bothered. Not a criticism, per se, as much as a personal feeling of disappointment.
― EDB, Sunday, 11 October 2009 14:45 (sixteen years ago)
Don't think US distribs were sketched about anything. It's just that the UK version tacked on a few contemporaneous singles that might have been hard to track down outside the States. I.e., those songs really don't properly belong on Imperial F.F.R.R. Sort of standard practice for US vs. UK releases. Most of the US Fall LPs include singles not on the original UK versions.
And, yeah, I always saw Perfect Teeth as a disappointment in the wake of Imperial. Decent record on its own merits, just a bit of a let-down in comparison.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:17 (sixteen years ago)
perfect teeth is great!
― scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:31 (sixteen years ago)
so, is it weird that i LOVE almost everything i've heard from mark robinson since 1991 (cherry cherry single), but that i've heard very little before 1991? i mean, i just never sought it out. i love unrest, i love mark solo, i love flin flon, i love air miami, i like (maybe not love) grenadine. i think maybe i'm afraid i won't like the earlier stuff as much. or maybe i'm just a weirdo. and i still need a copy of origami and urbanism.
― scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)
Early stuff is very different, so your trepidation makes a kind of sense. Prior to Imperial, I don't think they really knew what they wanted to do or be, so they sort of bounced around through their influences. Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation seems like the epitome of this. Slots in with the loud guitars, funk-metal tendencies and dangerous/transgressive fascinations of early 90s indie/avant culture, but the band doesn't seem to feel terribly comfortable in that clothing. Skinhead Girl single seemed like the breakthrough at the time, the point at which they became themselves (kicking off a rush of great material on the run-up to Imperial: Factory EP, Bavarian Mods, Cherry Cherry).
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 17:02 (sixteen years ago)
Don't think US distribs were sketched about anything. Since they were on the label they ran I would say no, too. Also noteworthy that they didn't tack those on to the remaster.
Scott -The further back you go the less pop and more post-punk Mark's work is; if that's your thing, it's worth exploring. I have copies of some of the early cassette stuff but never dif out anything pre-Imperial.
x-post
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 October 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)
Picked up a copy of the Isabel Bishop EP at the shoppe this morning - after trying and failing to find the "Skinhead Girl" 45 (where do things go when you aren't looking at them?). So great, and it's especially interesting to hear Teenage Suicide and Nation Writer in the context of this discussion. They seem like the bridge between Kustom Karnal and Imperial, along with She Makes Me Shake Like a Soul Machine, which sounds totally out of place on KK.
Now I gotta track down BPM and the Cath Carrol EP...
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)
As far as I know, the two older tracks that fans of late Unrest need to hear are, "She Makes Me Shake Like a Soul Machine" and "Can't Sit Still." Not to say that the other stuff isn't worth hearing. My favorite song of theirs is still "Vibe Out!" Completists shouldn't forget the Mod Fuck Explosion soundtrack, only one song of which is on CD to my knowledge.
― dlp9001, Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:28 (sixteen years ago)
2nd Can't Sit Still - that was the song that first caught my attention, twenty goddam years ago. Would add Christina to the S list, also from Malcolm X Park.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)
"Vibe Out" is one of my favorites also, so good.
also search "Headringer" from the Magic Flowers 7" box and the acoustic "Cath Carroll".
― sleeve, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)
Forgot about Headringer! Box was called Magic Ribbons, irc. A lot of it was crap, but that's a great Unrest song it also had a whole bunch of early Sebadoh tracks, including Cyster, which I liked a lot. Plus I loved the shit out of Mystery Tramps' The Trip, though I don't think I ever heard anything else by the band. Kind of CVB-esque.
The label, Leopard Gecko put out some early Seaweed stuff, a Treehouse single that I remember half liking, cool stuff by an Melvins-y Oly band called Dangermouse and a Barbed Wire Dolls 45 that's still a guilty pleasure (vaguely reminiscent of The Cult).
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― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:33 (sixteen years ago)
Apologize for the terrible prose/grammar there. And elsewhere.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:34 (sixteen years ago)
the 'fuck pussy galore' cd has at least five tracks that would appeal to fans of the imperial-era stuff. i think it's pretty easy to find cheap secondhand
i just remembered that courtney love did a cover of 'skinhead girl' that i don't think i've ever heard, i should seek it out for laffs
― sound of contusion (electricsound), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)
those Sebadoh tracks are now on the Domino reissue of Freed Weed (xpost)
― sleeve, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:44 (sixteen years ago)
Picked up a copy of the Isabel Bishop EP at the shoppe this morning- - love love love this version of the song & also the Marine Girls cover. I wish I had access to it right now, actually, but it is buried in a box somewhere..
― cervix-a-lot (Pillbox), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:54 (sixteen years ago)
Aaaaand this afternoon I picked up BPM, just to get full coverage of the circa-Imperial singles & cetera (OCD kicking in hard). Nice that this stuff is so easily available used in indie shops. Again, the entire whoosh of songs they released between late 1990 and early '93 is just incredible. Sudden outpourings of all-genius material in otherwise uneven careers are strange. Welcome, but strange...
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Monday, 12 October 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)
Why why why hasn't some aspiring rapper sampled "Champion Nines" (off Imperial)?????
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:22 (sixteen years ago)
[nabisco]=Nabisco? Why do you hide under a different name? What's the point if everyone recognizes you anyway? Is this a quiz show?― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:42 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkN****h has googling fears, Alex -- it's to do with a thread he posted on that his mother found, but the thread itself wasn't the type of thing you'd necessarily talk to your mother about. ;-)― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:50 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:42 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkN****h has googling fears, Alex -- it's to do with a thread he posted on that his mother found, but the thread itself wasn't the type of thing you'd necessarily talk to your mother about. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:50 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Ha ha old ILM.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:23 (sixteen years ago)
Ha ha also on the new ILX automatically substituting nabisco's real name on the quote.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:24 (sixteen years ago)
Every time an Unrest thread pops up, I go to the teenbeat site and find out that there's new product. No exception now: two live shows now available. May have to investigate...
― dlp9001, Monday, 12 October 2009 02:25 (sixteen years ago)
Hey, just noticed that the copy of B.P.M. I picked up the other day tacks on three bonus tracks at the end: a three-minute version of "Make-Out Club", a short acoustic tune with Bridget singing, and a very brief instrumental version of Styx's "Sailing Away" (more a quote than a proper cover, but whatever). These songs aren't mentioned on the packaging or on Allmusic/Amazon/Discogs, so I'm wondering what the Bridget song is. Anyone know?
― from alcoholism to fleshly concerns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 19:49 (sixteen years ago)
keep repeating keep repeating
― cutty, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)
Turns out it's an acoustic version of Light Command, another Perfect Teeth track. Dunno where it comes from, or if it appears anwhere else but on BPM.
― from alcoholism to fleshly concerns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)
― scott seward, Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:31 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)
everything post KK Blaxploitation through to the end is near flawless, inc Perfect Teeth
― Remove This Vile Tweet (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)
one of my favorite bands ever, so creative
― Remove This Vile Tweet (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)
Light Command is a great song. Haven't heard that acoustic version tho.
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)
Wanna pick up a copy of Perfect Teeth now, as I haven't heard it in ages and the PT-era stuff on BPM is just as good as Imperial etc. I have a tendency to fall hard for a certain record and to look askance at whatever comes next simply because it isn't that thing. Years later I'll hear the follow-up record I once denounced and be completely shocked by how RONG I was. Perhaps this is one of those...
― from alcoholism to fleshly concerns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)
I just noticed that a kind of ok Unrest track that's not so easily found has turned up on one of them there blog things. Song is "House Proud" on the soundtrack to Hippy Porn from 1991, which was supposed to come out on Matador, but never did. It sounds a bit like one of their Air Miami demos. I like it, even if it is pretty short. I've had it on cassette for a while but could never manage to transfer to digital.
The soundtrack has a number of other big names on it (Unsane, Frogs, Cop Shoot Cop, Thurston Moore) and a very unessential Dustdevils instrumental. Googling the pertinent bits of this post will turn it up.
― dlp9001, Sunday, 15 November 2009 03:44 (sixteen years ago)
can someone tell me the name of that Mark Robinson solo album that's all cutup voice and sine waves?
― sleeve, Sunday, 6 December 2009 01:48 (sixteen years ago)
I believe you're thinking about the *Taste* EP: http://www.amazon.com/Taste-Mark-Robinson/dp/B00004TJZ1/
― ernestp, Sunday, 6 December 2009 02:02 (sixteen years ago)
Those early Unrest cassettes are available on CD from Teenbeat's site now. I'm guessing they're made to order CD-R's but I may be wrong. But to finally hear Twister and Lisa Carol Freemont after all these years of wondering.
― Sock Puppet Queso Con Concentrate, Sunday, 6 December 2009 02:10 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2010/05/04/three-unrest-lineups-to-headline-teenbeat-26th-anniversary-shows-in-july/
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)
I've got to find a way to get to one of those shows.
― kate78, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)
bummed, no west coast dates!
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
I think the Black Cat show in DC is on sale now.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)
DC area local me should get a ticket before it sells it.
Some of you might find this article that discusses the old Teenbeat house in Arlington, VA., to be of interest
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/38231/the-orange-line-revolution-the-year-that-punk-rock-left
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)
Wow Ropers opening in Hoboken SO FUCKING EXCITED!!!
― Evan, Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:18 (fifteen years ago)
great article, thanks! xp
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:32 (fifteen years ago)
I love this band so much.
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)
I saw them 3-4 times back in the day & once as Air Miami. They are an absolutely terrific live band! Such simple arrangements & yet such lockstep rhythm b/w the guitars & drums - Mark R has such a huge voice too. Hopefully it has aged well?
I might have to make my way east this July.
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:46 (fifteen years ago)
I saw them the night Clinton was elected. All I remember is them playing "Hydroplane" for 8-10 minutes and Bridget resting her head on Mark's shoulder while they effortlessly jammed out.
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:50 (fifteen years ago)
One of the best double-bills I've ever attended: Unrest & Stereolab in '93 @ St. Andrews Hall in Detroit - touring for Perfect Teeth & TRNBWA respectively.
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:29 (fifteen years ago)
^^^ was at that same show...awesome
― henry s, Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:39 (fifteen years ago)
One of the best triple bills I ever saw: Unrest, Volcano Suns, Wesding Present at the 9:30, 20 years ago. Anyone else going to the Cambridge show?
― dad a, Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:43 (fifteen years ago)
Suki is pretty catchy. I've seen a couple lists that rank Imperial ffras the number one indie album of all time - DO NOT AGREE. But I can't deny it's a pretty attractive album, all the songs are very well done. But holy shit, talk about iconoclasm. I'm sure people have seen the list I'm talking about.
― kelpolaris, Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:47 (fifteen years ago)
xxp - have we been through this before, henry s? I think we were probably at a lot of the same shows.
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)
Caught that bill out here at UC Irvine, with Idaho opening. Hell of a triple bill.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)
idaho, unrest and stereolab in one concert? why wasn't i there?
― alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 6 May 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)
I think we both piled on some thread about Detroit venues, or St. Andrews Hall, or something like that...(I live in Boston now, but am from the D, and went to a ton of shows there in the 80's and 90's)...
― henry s, Thursday, 6 May 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)
Got my tickets to the NYC show!
― kate78, Thursday, 6 May 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)
^^^jealous
one of the few bands I would be excited to see a reunion performance by (the other one was Camper Van Beethoven)
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
Gotta buy my plane tickets next!
― kate78, Thursday, 6 May 2010 23:43 (fifteen years ago)
Would killllllllllllllll to see that.
― Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Friday, 7 May 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)
Brooklyn show sold out!
― kate78, Friday, 7 May 2010 05:40 (fifteen years ago)
Come to Hoboken, people.
― Evan, Friday, 7 May 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2010/07/02/mark_robinson_and_his_little_teenbeat_label_celebrate_a_big_legacy_and_a_26th_anniversary/
― curmudgeon, Friday, 2 July 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)
huh, a designer for Houghton Mifflin
― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 July 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
I love that he writes hand-written notes for mail orders (I got one for that Maybe It's Reno CD)
will anyone be at the Friday 7/9 show in Brooklyn?
― kate78, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)
man i was so disappointed at that maybe it's reno album :\
― 69, Friday, 2 July 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
really? I thought a lot of it was very much of a piece with Perfect Teeth
― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, maybe it's reno is great. Takes a few listens to kick in.
― dlp9001, Saturday, 3 July 2010 01:04 (fifteen years ago)
I love that he writes hand-written notes for mail orders
Hah, yeah! I only ever ordered from Teenbeat once, got Vomit Launch & No Trend CDs because they were impossible to find here, and got a note from "Mark" I did wonder if it was really him ; )
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 3 July 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)
3 versions of Unrest were great in DC tonight ( Versus were as well; and Rondelles weren't bad....Missed the first band...Jonny Cohen in between band was well Jonny). Unrest did "Cath Carroll", "Teenage Suicide," "Suki," "Makeout Club" and many more. Mark's got that wonderful boyish grin as he strums away and sings.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 July 2010 06:22 (fifteen years ago)
Unrest were great in Hoboken.
― Evan, Sunday, 11 July 2010 06:28 (fifteen years ago)
a crucial influence on the transition of american indie aesthetics from B&W photocopies of skulls to colour photocopies of 70's airport lounges.
― fritz, Monday, February 18, 2002 5:00 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark
all time 2nd response HOF
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 July 2010 06:53 (fifteen years ago)
Pals of mine who dj'd at the University of Maryland's WMUC and who hung out with Robinson in the mid to late 80s and early 90s shared Mark's interest in Factory Records. While such interest may not have been prominent as a musical theme in America at the time, it was not necessarily unusual.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 July 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)
Mark's lost a ton of weight.
― kate78, Monday, 12 July 2010 02:43 (fifteen years ago)
I had not seen him in so long, I missed the heavy phase.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 12 July 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)
I was trying to determine the best Unrest record.
the first one a little too juvenalia for my tastes, and perfect teeth never did it for me. a noble failure.
that leaves malcolm x park, kustom karnal, imperial. kustom karnal is great, but a little too genre-bound. imperial has their best songs, but
malcolm x park is their best record.
― dude (del), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)
the pre-Imperial stuff I've heard seems half-formed to me. don't think I've ever listened to Malcolm X Park tho
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)
you should check it out.
"pop" song highlights-- redo of can't sit still from their first lp. ]Christina, which is a tribute to lawrence hayward vox.
other highlights-- lucifer rising not sure if this references beausoleil/jimmy page origins, but it is fab. raucous cover of kiss' Strutter. Elvis Presley cover. Cramps-informed rockabilly workout. eloquent piano instrumental, recalling vin guaraldi high on lucy shwag, mondrian.
a brilliant mix of self-indulgence and hitting just the right notes for the crowd at each prompting to change over the record. i think large part involved regurgitating influences in a compelling way and not being confined by genre.
one of the best shows i ever saw involved a capella rendition of lord shiva from kustom karnal with his bandmates looking on like "ugh, i'm so embarrassed"
― dude (del), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)
a brilliant mix of self-indulgence and hitting just the right notes for the crowd at each prompting to change over the record.
funny, i can't parse that sentence either.
what i mean, is after each song when you might be tempted to be "ugh", the next track totally switches gears.
i think their eclecticism played a large part in their genius. other big names falling under indie rock from that period, pavement, superchunk, whatever seem so stifled in comparison
― dude (del), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
can't get past how ugly the sleeve is tbh. from Imperial on all their stuff looks SO great.
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, maybe not the best artwork choice ever. i try not to pay too much attention to that stuff. i mean, "unrest" is sort of a ridiculous name for a band.
i agree, though. imperial + the singles around that time, bavarian mods, skinhead girl, etc., are perfect-looking
― dude (del), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
also, you should check out "headringer" from twister cassette. great early unrest song, man
― dude (del), Monday, 20 September 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)
if you like stuttering epiphones
― dude (del), Monday, 20 September 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
Drummer Phil Krauth is now my son's English teacher. They had some tough essays on Crime & Punishment.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)
!!
that's so cool
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)
yes!
― dude (del), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)
Just realized after 15 years of looking at them that the sleeve photos of B.P.M (1991-1994) are Pachyderm Studios in Cannon Falls (I've hung out on that overhang!), where Simon Le Bon stopped by and passively watched the band recording long enough to get a joke "producer" credit on Perfect Teeth. That album's first two songs sure stand up as something else (and very Duran Duran), I gotta say.
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)
have always wondered about that LeBon credit
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, me too!!
man "angel i will walk you home" is one hell of a song. the fast-strummy stuff is pretty obv the (deserving) focus of their late-oeuvre, but i looooove the slow pretty stuff a lot, too.
― 69, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)
^^
never got all that much into malcolm x, but when i first heard it i was a huge imperial head so maybe i'd feel differently about it now
― the groin transfer (electricsound), Monday, 20 September 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
from imperial on their stuff looks great. and uptight, anal, entirely defined by conventional (mid-to-late 20th century) thinking about "good design" and "good taste".
malcolm X park cover art seems to come from a mirror universe wr2 those buttoned-down aesthetics. raw, sloppy, deliberately ugly, crude, badly designed. somewhat appealing on that level, and representative of the messy, homemade, splattery music within.
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Monday, 20 September 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)
as a record, i can't go with malcolm x park as their best. think they were still defining themselves at that point, working to find an individual voice within a whirl of then-current punk, post-punk, art & indie influences. the follow-up, kustom karnal blaxploitation, seemed like an attempt to align themselves with the likes of sonic youth (creepy tunings, "rock" posturing, dark subject matter), and a triumph within the band of their prog over their pop tendencies, but it's a failure, and a brilliant one in that they were so quickly able to learn from it. boring as it may be to say, imperial still stands as their masterpiece. it's their sound, not an approximation of anyone else's, and it never falters, doubts itself, breaks stride.
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Monday, 20 September 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)
great post. let me think about this.
yeah, i think kustom karnal is brilliant, defiantly so, maybe
as i said above, i think imperial is the best song-wise. during that time i was blown away by their singles run of cherry, skinhead girl, factory tribute, bavarian mods. maybe i'm just a sucker for contrarianism, but i loved that they went directly from kustom karnal to jangly pop songs. kinda like writing a sparkly almost radio-ready song like skinhead girl but dousing it in four-letter words, provocative subject matter
think i like mxp so much b/c it is brash in a clueless first album sort of way...enthusiasm trumping everything. lots of confidence, too many ideas. i realize it's not their first lp, but it has that vibe almost. and i feel like it's aged really well. 'fuck pussy galore' or whatever it's called is something of a mess, kustom feels strangulated somehow and maybe too much of a pose, imperial for all of its greatness sounds thin to me sometimes, and i never really got into p. teeth.
― dude (del), Monday, 20 September 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
entirely defined by conventional (mid-to-late 20th century) thinking about "good design" and "good taste".
yeah, especially the cover of the animal park 7"!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 00:46 (fifteen years ago)
well, almost entirely ;D
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)
imperial ffrr is nice for a hot summer day
― van ingalls wilder (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
Yes.
― curmudgeon, Monday, September 20, 2010 7:19 PM
He was a hard but fair 11th grade English teacher. A "B" for the year in an IB English class is not bad. I do not know if Mr. Krauth finds any time to drum these days.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
I hope so! love his drumming
― No Broehner (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
love everything about this band, really
did you lot hear the version of hydroplane that was on the recent codeine box?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXiV6vOjqB4
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:01 (twelve years ago)
actually i'm making the assumption here that hydroplane was an unrest original or am i wrong?
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:09 (twelve years ago)
indeed it is
― prissy relay switches (electricsound), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:11 (twelve years ago)
phew! far too good a song to waste on a b-side imo
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:14 (twelve years ago)
I jammed the 33-minute "Hydro" the other day, it RULED. Love this band so much, I kinda want to be a completist but it is expen$$$ive.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:46 (twelve years ago)
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― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 21 September 2015 16:56 (ten years ago)
Never even heard of that. What is it on?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 September 2015 17:14 (ten years ago)
http://www.discogs.com/Unrest-Bavarian-Mods-And-Other-Hits/master/270879
― curmudgeon, Monday, 21 September 2015 17:17 (ten years ago)
it is so good, and I wish I could find a lyric sheet because I just hear fragments of pleas and regrets and memories ("I found my mailbox full of you", what a lovely line) and I want to get a better understanding of what's falling apart and how. I think I understand what rock and roll has to do with it though.
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 21 September 2015 17:25 (ten years ago)
so good
― sleeve, Monday, 21 September 2015 17:47 (ten years ago)
Retrospective piece in the Post today about Unrest, mostly the Imperial-to-breakup phase: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/dcs-indie-music-scene-thrived-in-the-90s-a-look-back-with-one-of-its-most-beloved-acts/2018/01/02/7f4611be-dc45-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html
https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/01/02/Magazine/Images/Unrest-Knoxville_199201_byMarkRobinson.JPG
― city worker, Thursday, 4 January 2018 18:13 (eight years ago)
Not sure how I never managed to post in this thread. Total classic & much missed.
― lingereffect (Kent Burt), Sunday, 7 January 2018 02:46 (eight years ago)
It was an unexpected thrill to hear them on the radio the other day. The Current played "Make Out Club."
― geoffreyess, Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:31 (eight years ago)
I was listening to the Isabel Bishop EP last night and realized how great the funkier version of "Isabel" is.
― geoffreyess, Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:33 (eight years ago)
Haven't heard the EP is a couple decades but how far from the original with the "Ashley's Roachclip" drum break added is it?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 7 January 2018 19:50 (eight years ago)
iirc the EP version is the same as the "Isabel Bishop" 7" - only the version on Imperial is drumless
― sleeve, Sunday, 7 January 2018 19:54 (eight years ago)
I want a Mark Robinson/Unrest anthology...
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 8 January 2018 16:45 (eight years ago)
god i love this band
― maura, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:43 (eight years ago)
Same!!
― Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:45 (eight years ago)
perfect teeth was so great, what a way to go off into the sunset
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 January 2018 20:51 (eight years ago)
love
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 8 January 2018 20:58 (eight years ago)
Any Air Miami fans?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:59 (eight years ago)
Tomas MacLoughlin8 years agothe drummer, phil krauth is my English teacher!!!how cool is that??
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:00 (eight years ago)
xp Mike Fellow is no Phil Krauth, but Air Miami are OK. Never clicked with them the same way.
― sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:03 (eight years ago)
Not to brag but I saw Unrest at Maxwells and The Ropers were the openers...
...in 2010
― Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:04 (eight years ago)
I kinda want to be a completist but it is expen$$$ive.
― sleeve, Wednesday, February 27, 2013
five years later, the only formal Unrest releases I'm still missing are the "Make Out Club" 7" and the split tape with Dust Devils, but then there are a bunch of impossible-to-find Teenbeat cassette compilations as well.
― sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:05 (eight years ago)
Were you really finding it expensive at the time? None of my Unrest records are worth that much money. I don't see a lot of interest in Unrest these days in general. I'm wondering if they will be "rediscovered" by p4k or someone and have their classic status affirmed a little more among the general public someday.
― Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:23 (eight years ago)
the really expensive one that I still don't have is the UK LP release of Perfect Teeth, it's like $80 or more
Make Out Club single is > $20 and I just can't justify it since I have all the tracks already afaik
most of this stuff is pretty affordable, I think I had to spend $40-50 on the 1st LP original
― sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:25 (eight years ago)
This one? https://www.discogs.com/Unrest-Perfect-Teeth/release/1622164
― Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:47 (eight years ago)
yes, trying to find a copy for sale in the US is very difficult
― sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:48 (eight years ago)
Based on that marketplace, Germany is hoarding all of them!
― Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:50 (eight years ago)
*raises hand
tbh I bought the Air Miami CD because I saw it 2nd hand for about £2.50 some time in the 90s because of the Unrest connection, listened to it a couple of times but didn't think that much of it. A few years later when I first started talking to my now-wife about music she was a fan (of both bands) and sent me a copy of their demo and got me to listen to the album again, and that time it clicked for me.
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 8 January 2018 22:27 (eight years ago)
Any Cotton Candy fans?
― henry s, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:53 (eight years ago)
me otm 16 years ago about flin flon and ESPECIALLY about panax's "the garden" (from the 2000 teanbeat sampler):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiP1U1DIcMM
when i was a kid in dc the teenbeat stuff felt a lot less cliquish than the dischord post hardcore cool guys and a lot more stylish than the theater dork pukka shell stylings of the dismemberment plan.
― adam, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:13 (eight years ago)
sleeve, i will keep an eye open for that one for you
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:24 (eight years ago)
<3 thank you!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:29 (eight years ago)
Oh my god, I Do Believe You Are Blushing, where have you been? Apart from, of course, on my shelf for the last decade, unlistened.
Where do I go after Imperial ffrr?
― call me by your name..or Finn (fionnland), Sunday, 4 February 2018 21:15 (seven years ago)
Perfect Teeth, immediately :)
― sleeve, Sunday, 4 February 2018 21:16 (seven years ago)
and then BPM
I do believe your blushing is their best song imo
― nostormo, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:34 (six years ago)
uh wow
Unrest 06-09-1991 Middle East
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtVDyKwVZws&feature=youtu.be
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 03:00 (six years ago)
aw man, gone already
― sold out in presale (sleeve), Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:36 (six years ago)
nah it's there, just Google "Unrest 06-09-1991 Middle East" and it'll be the first result
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:38 (six years ago)
thanks!
― sold out in presale (sleeve), Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:40 (six years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ryyk4ee5Tw
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 January 2020 18:33 (five years ago)
nice thx
― adam, Monday, 27 January 2020 20:12 (five years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndlZ3NJfZSE&feature=youtu.be
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:44 (five years ago)
what was that supposed to be?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:24 (five years ago)
oh wow is it gone already? Unrest live at the Khyber in Philly 1992
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:26 (five years ago)
https://youtu.be/ndlZ3NJfZSE
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:28 (five years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea-MgTUWkAAFAqL?format=jpg&name=medium
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 June 2020 19:25 (five years ago)
A new radio programme debuts tomorrow morning at 11AM on @wmbr. Mark & Evelyn's American Top 41 starring @evelyn0909 and Mark Robinson. http://wmbr.org
Cool! They do a lot of kitschy station identification jingles for WMBR, and every now and then pop up here in town (Cambridge/Somerville, MA) in their Cotton Candy guise, so this show should be a lot of fun.
― henry s, Saturday, 20 June 2020 23:17 (five years ago)
that's very good
― the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 20 June 2020 23:44 (five years ago)
also, this is not really related, but I'd like to post it here anyway, just for fun
https://cdslimspine.com/assets/photo-img.png
― the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 20 June 2020 23:46 (five years ago)
Terry Tolkin (R.I.P.) did a lot more besides release Imperial, but that’s where I know his name from. Mark tribute from earlier today:
Terry, me, Richard. Teenbeat 173 with Teenbeat 178 on the table. Teenbeat Banquet 1995. pic.twitter.com/JoRm4u16sO— Teen-Beat / Mark Robinson (@Teenbeat463) January 22, 2022
― Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Saturday, 22 January 2022 21:40 (three years ago)
I need to look back at that Teenbeat item re to Tolkin No. 6 label .
― curmudgeon, Monday, 24 January 2022 16:14 (three years ago)
In an email I just got
Party MilkYour Problem as a Mountain35-song single LPThe new album from the duo D. Trevor Kampmann (hollAnd) and Mark R. Robinson (UNREST). Originally dubbed FANG WIZARD, this dynmaic group of two changes their moniker with every release.
Pop experimentalism like you've never heard before. An electric, eclectic, and electrifying duo from Washington, D.C. Their unique, (mostly) lyric-less instrumentals are created by combining old school melodies with futuristic beats and bizarre, fractured howls.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 22 May 2023 14:52 (two years ago)
AIR MIAMI Me. Me. Me. Double LP gatefold 2 x 45 All 16 tracks from the session remastered — three not on the original album. On Miami orange and sea blue vinyl. New jacket design. A Teenbeat / 4AD co-release. Comes out July 28. PRE-ORDER NOW:https://t.co/b32MQ5lSJt pic.twitter.com/y2esqpCygP— Teenbeat / Mark Robinson (@Teenbeat463) June 7, 2023
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 22:05 (two years ago)
the really expensive one that I still don't have is the UK LP release of Perfect Teeth, it's like $80 or more― sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:25 (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― sleeve, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:25 (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink
sleeve, i will keep an eye open for that one for you― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:24 (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink<3 thank you!― sleeve, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:29 (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:24 (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― sleeve, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:29 (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink
is a sleeve still in need?
― NickB, Saturday, 15 July 2023 16:59 (two years ago)
no, but thank you! I found an autographed copy a while back. much appreciated!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 15 July 2023 17:32 (two years ago)
oh good stuff! finally found a copy for cheap today, guess I'll just sell it for £££ instead :)
― NickB, Saturday, 15 July 2023 17:38 (two years ago)
yah ebay that sucker!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 15 July 2023 17:39 (two years ago)
actually... if ilxor Johnny Fever is around, I think he was also looking fwiw
Here's a pretty good new interview/article about Air Miami, from the 4AD website: https://www.4ad.com/news/1340
Regarding the break-up of Unrest, it says: Unrest broke up in the winter of 1994, giving only “exhaustion” as the reason. Nearly three decades later, Cross is still vague: “The best I can say is that we were just kids and didn't know what the hell we were doing.”Then later on in the article: “But I’m still not sure what happened with Air Miami, why Phil wasn’t on it, why it wasn’t an Unrest record. And I don’t know if that’s something we even want to talk about because it’s painful, you know?”
― ernestp, Monday, 24 July 2023 22:38 (two years ago)
Thanks for sharing that. Nice Royal Trux detail
― Empty Tushy Fills (morrisp), Monday, 24 July 2023 22:43 (two years ago)
yeah that's great, thank you!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 04:21 (two years ago)
The new LP reissue of imperial f.f.r.r. is really elegant.
When all the dust settles (well it's been 30+ years), this may be one of my top 10 LPs of all time. Curious to hear what Cross is referring to regarding to the breakup. Mark seems to be coy about talking about late-era Unrest as well.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 15:46 (two years ago)
aside: Mike Fellows (the ersthile Trux member referenced in the interview) was pretty much the Drag City house drummer at that point. A couple years later he drummed on American Water.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 15:47 (two years ago)
Well I went to an Unrest show circa 2010 so whatever interpersonal issue there may have been at the time wasn't bad enough to prevent that joyous reunion show.
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 15:49 (two years ago)
The Fellows aspect is interesting, b/c it draws a connection btw. these very different bands with DC-area roots (Rites of Spring, Unrest, Trux)
― Empty Tushy Fills (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 16:44 (two years ago)
This discussion of the Unrest breakup reminded me of a small detail. I worked at Teenbeat (Mark’s house) over two days during the summer of 1994 folding singles and doing mail order. I remember at some point Mark taking a phone call and talking with the other person for a bit about their respective bands breaking up. I don’t remember any real details from the call other than after he hung up, he just said to me “That was Calvin Johnson.”
― city worker, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 17:04 (two years ago)
I've just started listening to this from Discograffiti:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jrXyJVQpwFrom the description: "Welcome to Part 1 of the longest (16 HOURS), most definitive (every single release covered), and objectively the best interview ever conducted with Unrest/Grenadine/Air Miami/Flin Flon man and Teenbeat label head Mark Robinson."
― ernestp, Sunday, 7 January 2024 20:29 (two years ago)
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 7 January 2024 20:31 (two years ago)
The full, sordid backstory of the several weeks leading up to our summit meeting, as I admittedly totally overdid it with my 204 pages of notes and endless, ultimately alienating texts and calls to him;The growth steps that had to happen for Mark to develop into one of the greatest pop songwriters of all time;And over a half-hour just on Imperial f.f.r.r. alone
Wow, so 4 hours of the 16 are available to all, but it appears you have to donate to the podcast guy’s Patreon to hear all 16!
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 20:58 (two years ago)
wtf I demand at least 2 hours on Imperial, unless he means the specific song and not the album as a whole
j/k I will never listen to this
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 21:06 (two years ago)
that guy (podcast host, I've never heard Mark Robinson on a podcast) is unsufferable
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 21:10 (two years ago)
Yeah honestly seems weird to only spend 30 mins. on that particular album, out of a 16-hour(!) convo
Maybe they run thru every numbered Teenbeat release (including the T-shirts, events, etc.)
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 21:17 (two years ago)
Would only be interested if he talks about Arlington in the 80s-early 90s
― Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 21:37 (two years ago)
Hmmm so I finished listening to the 90-min edition linked above. For some reason, I'm picturing "pushy hot dog cart street vendor" when listening to the podcast host's voice.
204 pages of notes, and the fellow didn't know that "Winona Ryder" was a cover of Family Fodder's "Debbie Harry"? And it sounded like he wasn't familiar with the original songs that were covered on "A Factory Record." He was complimenting Mark on all the melodic details in "When It All Comes Down" and Mark was like (paraphrased) "Well, we covered it exactly like the original."
Still, it's nice to hear Mark talk about these songs, and there were some factoids that stuck out in my head, like:* Mark's first electric guitar (Epiphone Genesis), obtained in 1981, was apparently the ONLY electric guitar he used for all Unrest recordings. (I took a look at the "Make Out Club" video, and yup, it checks out.)* The title "I Do Believe You Are Blushing" comes from a quote from the movie "Mermaids"! (Which starred...Winona Ryder.) The "Miss K" in the lyrics refer to a real person, with whom Mark had a sort of "Before Sunrise"-esque experience, hanging out and sleeping in Central Park.* "Isabel" and "Champion Nines" were solo Mark (bass, bells and a sample - apparently the section where the sample slows down was unintended). On "Suki" and "Cherry Cream On" it's just Mark and Phil (Mark played the bass on those two). I thought I had read somewhere that Mark played the drums on "Sugar Shack" (which would make sense, since the drumming isn't very precise), but Mark said it's Phil.* Mark said "Cherry Cream On" is just a remix of "Cherry Cherry" (I thought "CCO" was a newer recording of "CC", not a remix.) Apart from that, Mark said it took just a total of about 4 days to record "imperial f.f.r.r."!
Oh yeah - the podcast host thought "Cherry Cream On" was about a blow job (?!?!). After he said that, there was a long pause, and then Mark said it was most definitely not about that. (He didn't say what it was about, but it's pretty obvious what the song is about, right? I mean, come on, dude.)
― ernestp, Thursday, 11 January 2024 05:39 (two years ago)
Thanks, those are some nice details (lol at the host not having checked out the Miaow song…?).
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Thursday, 11 January 2024 06:34 (two years ago)
I’d be interested to hear Mark talk about making Twister with Kramer, and KKB (with Wharton Tiers)… and, yeah, just the early Arlington days.
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Thursday, 11 January 2024 06:54 (two years ago)
I encountered Mark some years ago at a street fair, manning a table where he was hawking Teenbeat product, in addition to his own musical ephemera. I gushed over Imperial and bought a couple of things, and as I was walking away he came running after me with an armful of CDs from his own collection. What a guy!
― henry s, Thursday, 11 January 2024 14:21 (two years ago)
He always comes back to DC from Massachusetts for the holidays. Saw Mark back in DC hawking Teenbeat stuff at a reunited Tuscadero gig opening for reunited Velocity Girl. He dj’d an event another night recently, showed his Butch Willis doc Amateur on Plastic, and then on another night his own Cotton Candy group played.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 January 2024 14:38 (two years ago)
Yeah, Cotton Candy are regulars at these street fairs in Somerville, Mass. Always fun to see.
― henry s, Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:08 (two years ago)
I only know Mark a tiny bit, but a band I was in was on Teenbeat, and we were really excited to use the Air Miami (or maybe Flin Flon?) snare in the studio.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 January 2024 16:11 (two years ago)
guessing at the band, but holy shit u played in a band with Kevin Barker?!? I play D&D with him every week!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 11 January 2024 16:22 (two years ago)
small freaking world
Tell Kevin I say hi! He's such a good (guitar) player.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 January 2024 16:24 (two years ago)
Dang Josh, you buried the lead... gonna listen to your guys' stuff now
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Thursday, 11 January 2024 16:50 (two years ago)
Another ILXor was in a band with Kevin out here in SF, but he doesn't post here anymore (I don't think).
Agreed that this podcaster is a challenging listen, his voice is if you were to describe what cocaine abuse sounds like.
I love Mark and someone I know pitched an oral history of imperial to him and he was not very enthusiastic so this is a start! 4 days wtf!
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 12 January 2024 00:02 (one year ago)
So Discograffiti also did an interview with Mark and Jenny Toomey, discussing the Grenadine catalog:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPdAiHiTRPEThis is a pretty fun listen. I'm actually comforted to know that someone out there loves "Goya" as much as I do.I even made a cocktail in tribute to them (which, of course, contains grenadine) named "Pinky Tuscadero."
― ernestp, Monday, 22 January 2024 01:42 (one year ago)
Perfect Teeth got reissued and Mark Robinson has a new project -
UNREST's Mark Robinson and hollAnd's Trevor Kampmann have recorded three albums under three different monikers. 2011's Fang Wizard and 2023's Party Milk albums were both instrumental. For 2025's Uncomfortable Police, they've both stepped in front of the mic and created thirty new songs, 15 of which will be pressed onto opaque black vinyl and housed in a very special full-colour jacket. We're calling it Michelin Star Hardcore.
"Bandcamp Food Stamp" b/w "Final Flur" is a companion single to the album, but will not appear on the album. These two songs are exclusive to the single
― curmudgeon, Friday, 7 March 2025 17:53 (ten months ago)
Haven't heard anything in the collaboration that has been all that interesting.
Separately, Teen Beat sent out their newsletter this morning saying that Mark Robinson "has a 45-song set prepared spanning the years 1982 to 2025" for when he plays with Ida and Tsunami at Black Cat on March 27.
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Friday, 7 March 2025 18:49 (ten months ago)
He's also being inducted into the Wakefield High School Hall of Fame in Arlington.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 March 2025 19:08 (ten months ago)
Surprised he wasn’t in the first class to be inducted. (The guy released a song called “Sweet Home Wakefield”!)
― Fervid as a flame (morrisp), Friday, 7 March 2025 19:22 (ten months ago)
https://scontent-ord5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/481016879_10239089285557071_6614856447721220599_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=VzscrrmGdpkQ7kNvgGiK8GU&_nc_oc=AdhAPRyR4DTUfmVnyN_E95sD_Og0ZVWBfkdiZXn-QwcOVuBEsYNFEyTa6R94KqZ6lxU&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-2.xx&_nc_gid=AjC-va8G5gkWMg09C1uCTig&oh=00_AYGyt6ERNrpMBPkxp4yIaJpFumQOmQu7-cqe2LFSolUvlA&oe=67D13791
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 March 2025 20:38 (ten months ago)
The Wakefield High School Education Foundation will induct five new Hall of Fame members at an awards ceremony at Wakefield High School on Monday, May 19, 2025. The induction will take place in conjunction with the Student Honors Awards ceremony beginning at 7:00 p.m. in the auditorium. There will be a reception for inductees and guests prior to the ceremony, beginning at 6:00 p.m. at Wakefield in room A134. After the ceremony guests are invited back to the reception to visit with the inductees.The eleventh class inducted into the Wakefield High School Hall of Fame consists of: a musician, photographer, mentor/teacher, martial arts champion and filmmaker.John Chung ’76, Martial Arts Champion, TeacherWilliam Cogswell, Jr. Staff, Teacher, MentorLoki Mulhoulland ’90, Filmmaker, Civil Rights ActivistMark Robinson ’85, Musician, Founder Teen Beat RecordsSusan Stone Page ’56, Photographer
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 March 2025 20:39 (ten months ago)
I think Unrest drummer Phil Krauth went to Wakefield High with Mark too, but he didn't get nominated. Krauth was later my son's math teacher at another Arlington, VA school
― curmudgeon, Monday, 10 March 2025 01:23 (ten months ago)
Loki Mulhoulland, also being inducted, is the son of a real American legend:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Trumpauer_Mulholland
I met her once, because she was one of my wife's neighbors, and she was incredible. Just a truly inspiring figure that makes you want to be a better person. Pure empathy and courage.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 March 2025 01:48 (ten months ago)
wow
― sleeve, Monday, 10 March 2025 01:55 (ten months ago)
I purchased the Imperial f.f.r.r. vinyl reissue on Bandcamp recently. It arrived with a signed note from Mark and even a little ink drawing of the cover art.
― o. nate, Monday, 10 March 2025 13:46 (ten months ago)
Oh nice . He’s a good guy
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 18 March 2025 13:45 (nine months ago)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/2025/03/19/mark-robinson-unrest-concert-dc/
In December, mere hours after Mark Robinson performed a decidedly atypical solo set at Arlington’s Galaxy Hut, conflicting rumors began to ripple across the scene. Someone in attendance told me that Robinson — hero of the indie underground; founder of Teen-Beat Records; singer-guitarist of Unrest — had performed only the first line of each song. Someone else said he only sang the choruses. A third somebody described the set as “maybe more like a medley?”
Now here’s Robinson himself on a recent video call from Taiwan, where he’s visiting his son, happy to clear everything up. “I had a list of like 50 songs, and I just went from song to song,” he says (noting that he played only the portions he could remember). “I tried to do it Fugazi-style, where I was just trying to feel what the next one was. You know how they never [used] a set list?”
He's gonna do this the same way opening for Ida & Tsunami in DC next week at Black Cat
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 March 2025 16:24 (nine months ago)
The homage soon put Unrest in contact with Carroll, who went on to release music on Teen-Beat and tour with Cross and Robinson’s post-Unrest band, Air Miami. “I kind of got the feeling that she never really liked us or wanted to be a part of this weird, young (thing),” Robinson says. “She was an actual adult.”
― Fervid as a flame (morrisp), Thursday, 20 March 2025 17:55 (nine months ago)
Looks like Disc 2 of the Perfect Teeth reissue is all stuff that’s been heard before, but I guess not surprising given how much this band loved to release scraps and bits of work product.
― Fervid as a flame (morrisp), Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:04 (nine months ago)
Oh, this is funny from 4AD… I guess a continuation of the joke:
Simon LeBon produced; he was recently awarded the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (MBE).
― Fervid as a flame (morrisp), Thursday, 20 March 2025 18:14 (nine months ago)
wonder why skinhead girl is still not reissued, one of their very best tracks.
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Thursday, 20 March 2025 20:13 (nine months ago)
unlike almost all of the rest of their stuff, it was on K Records, that might be part of it
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Thursday, 20 March 2025 20:16 (nine months ago)
Fwiw, it's on the Isabel Bishop EP and the UK (Guernica) version of Imperial f.f.r.r.
― Fervid as a flame (morrisp), Thursday, 20 March 2025 20:28 (nine months ago)
yep!
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Thursday, 20 March 2025 20:38 (nine months ago)
I think "God Gave Rock N Roll To You" has been similarly orphaned
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Thursday, 20 March 2025 20:39 (nine months ago)
linx here to my obsessive collection
https://shardsofbeauty.blogspot.com/2018/08/how-about-big-helping-of-odds-and-ends.html
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Thursday, 20 March 2025 20:40 (nine months ago)
Cool, thanxx!
― Fervid as a flame (morrisp), Thursday, 20 March 2025 20:42 (nine months ago)
sleeve, would it be possible to see tracklists for the comps? 🙏🙏
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 20 March 2025 21:50 (nine months ago)
I think I revised them later but lemme check
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Thursday, 20 March 2025 21:52 (nine months ago)
original CD
01 Headringer.mp302 The Hill Part Two.mp303 Hydroplane.mp304 Feeling Good Fixation.mp305 Deaf.mp306 UFO.mp307 Sex Machine.mp308 Caitlin Bums.mp309 Capitalist Joyride.mp310 Teenbeat Theme 91.mp311 Bavarian Mods.mp312 She Is Today (edit, I cut out the full minute of total silence).mp313 God Gave Rock & Roll To You III.mp314 Electrico.mp315 Isabel Bishop.mp316 Love To Know.mp317 Wharton Hockey Club.mp318 Teenage Suicide (Peel Session).mp319 Firecracker (Peel Session).mp320 Six Layer Cake (Peel Session).mp321 Miles Davis (Peel Session).mp322 Cath Carroll (7_).mp323 Capezio.mp324 Afternoon Train.mp325 Hey Hey Halifax.mp326 Light Command #3.mp327 International Nautical Miles.mp3
bonus tracks CD
Catchpellet:01 Communist Tart.mp302 Real Enemy.mp303 Scorpio Rising.mp304 Equator 77.mp3Cath Carroll EP:01 Cath Carroll (10cc Mix).mp302 Vibe Out!.mp303 Goodbye.mp304 Hydro.mp3Cath Carroll promo CD5:02 Cath Carrol (Acoustic Version).mp303 So Sick (Acoustic Version).mp304 Where Are All Those Puerto Rican Boys.mp3Isabel Bishop EP:04 Nation Writer.mp3Perfect Teeh 6x7" bonus tracks:Plastic Film.mp3Breather XXX.mp3comps:20 I Love Calvin.mp313 House Pourd.mp321 Castro 59 (Live).mp3
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Thursday, 20 March 2025 21:59 (nine months ago)
at some point I turned this all into a triple CD with the Mod Fuck Explosion tracks, the Teenbeat 001 tracks, the Sammy Supreme 7", etc
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Thursday, 20 March 2025 22:03 (nine months ago)
(and the original BPM tracks)
The Peel Session version of "Six Layer Cake" is so nice...
― Fervid as a flame (morrisp), Thursday, 20 March 2025 22:06 (nine months ago)
Guess I had never heard "Where Are All Those Puerto Rican Boys?" – great track as well!
― Fervid as a flame (morrisp), Thursday, 20 March 2025 22:26 (nine months ago)
originally a split tour single with Stereolab! (b/w "Mountain")
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Thursday, 20 March 2025 22:38 (nine months ago)
also love the Peel version of "Firecracker" with vocals
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Thursday, 20 March 2025 22:40 (nine months ago)
The remastered CD (Perfect Teeth) sounds terrific! Maybe a touch brighter on the high end than I would prefer, but so much is gained overall…
― uptight subreddit mod™ (morrisp), Sunday, 30 March 2025 20:25 (nine months ago)
(the packaging is disappointingly minimal – you can barely read the liner notes as reprinted on the back of the two slip cases – but I’m sure there are significant cost restraints these days.)
― uptight subreddit mod™ (morrisp), Sunday, 30 March 2025 20:28 (nine months ago)
$19.99 for the digital version?!? no thanks, altho ofc I'm curious
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:20 (nine months ago)
What exactly is “Food & Drink Synthesizer”… are they spinning something around really fast? (I’ve never known)
― uptight subreddit mod™ (morrisp), Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:29 (nine months ago)
I think so, yeah
― Hedwig and the Angry Ents (sleeve), Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:30 (nine months ago)
pretty sure it's a "whirly tube" - a flexible plastic tube that makes sounds when you spin it. my friend Bill had one around the house that he said was a give-away (looks like they sold them too). we used it c.1982 on some of our recordings. may have even beat Echo & The Bunnymen to it - they used it on "The Back Of Love" (Porcupine, 1983). I didn't know the actual name of the tube til now. an Echo blurb says they swung multiple tubes, vaguely "tuned to a natural e-e"
later I ended up playing keys in Phil's backup band from the TeenBeat North East tour summer 1996 until I moved up to NYC in 1998.
― Paul, Monday, 31 March 2025 02:13 (nine months ago)
and yes the whirlytube is what I was thinking of, I remember them
― sleeve, Monday, 31 March 2025 02:23 (nine months ago)
OMFG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi72bY_mdRU
― sleeve, Tuesday, 1 April 2025 01:53 (nine months ago)
just incredible, there are seven parts of the video
― sleeve, Tuesday, 1 April 2025 02:03 (nine months ago)
featuring Phil on drums in the last part
― sleeve, Tuesday, 1 April 2025 02:26 (nine months ago)
What a cool set!“She Makes Me Shake…” <3 <3
― uptight subreddit mod™ (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 April 2025 05:40 (nine months ago)
I own this album in a few different formats as it is, plus many of the bonus tracks on various singles/EPs, so I probably won't buy the reissue unless it's attractively packaged. (Please don't let it be attractively packaged.)
― henry s, Tuesday, 1 April 2025 10:26 (nine months ago)
It's not, but like I said, it sounds great!
― uptight subreddit mod™ (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 April 2025 15:15 (nine months ago)
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, October 12, 2009 1:22 AM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
And also why why why did it take me so long to get into this band? I had only ever Imperial but until last week that was it. Holy shit, their albums are all awesome!!
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 1 April 2025 18:12 (nine months ago)
Folks throw around the term "underrated" a lot these days, but (imo) Malcom X Park and Kustom Karnal are secretly two of the best & most underappreciated albums of their era/"scene".
― uptight subreddit mod™ (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 April 2025 18:16 (nine months ago)
Not to overdo it, but I’m so pleased with how this reish has “opened up” Perfect Teeth for me… I always considered it “good, better overall than Imperial, maybe not as strong as Air Miami”; but now it feels like a true classic.
― uptight subreddit mod™ (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 21:58 (nine months ago)
Shit, now I'm probably gonna buy it again.
― henry s, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 22:05 (nine months ago)
It kills me that 4AD didn't release the deluxe remaster of the Air Miami album on CD! I like how they mixed the three extra songs into the track list, instead of just stick them at the end. (This remaster sounds nice, too, as far as I can tell from the digital version.)
― siggi’s skyr stan (morrisp), Sunday, 13 April 2025 20:46 (eight months ago)
(I didn't know that Mike Fellows was AM's original drummer, and played on the (excellent) Airplane Rider / Stop Sign single!)
― siggi’s skyr stan (morrisp), Sunday, 13 April 2025 20:52 (eight months ago)
He was also the drummer on American Water.
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Monday, 14 April 2025 03:31 (eight months ago)
It's being weirdly underplayed in the official announcement from the Wedding Present, but their Seamonsters anniversary tour in North America next year has Mr. Robinson doing Unrest songs as the opening act. Minor detail there!
https://media.brooklynvegan.com/xxrzsfjkyw/uploads/2025/10/27/wedding-present-seamonsters-tour-2026.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 22:55 (two months ago)
@Ned: Mark's opening for Coffin Prick and Fred Frith in a couple weeks in the Richmond. First SF show since Perfect Teeth.
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 23:13 (two months ago)
https://www.4-star-movies.com/calendar-of-events/live-music-fred-frith-coffin-prick-mark-robinson
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 23:14 (two months ago)
Quite a combo there!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 23:18 (two months ago)
Mark has been doing solo medley sets where he tries to jam in as many Unrest songs as he can do in a row
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 03:43 (two months ago)
man i gotta say that does not sound good
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 12:08 (two months ago)
not to yuck other people's yum but i don't think i could sit through that and i love unrest
I dunno, I think I'd totally be up for a huge medley of Unrest tunes played at "Cath Carroll" pace.
― henry s, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 13:56 (two months ago)
Mark Robinson is a master of the 30-second song snippet, as evidenced by his Cotton Candy turn.
― henry s, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 13:58 (two months ago)
I mean if I'm going to see the Wedding Present anyway (and I am)...
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 14:06 (two months ago)
Saw him a few weeks ago. Was introduced by a comedian talking about Gen X music stuff and laying out the rules of what the performance would be - 50 songs in 30 minutes (or was it 30 songs in 50 minutes?). MR was pretty delightful/charming, but a little goes a long way / the songs really do blur together, when played truly solo. YMMV of course!
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 14:31 (two months ago)
somebody posted a video of him doing the medley set and it rules
― sleeve, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 14:41 (two months ago)
I would take either the medley or 50 mins of "Hydroplane", nothing in between.
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 15:36 (two months ago)
ha oh look I posted that video upthread six months ago
― sleeve, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 15:42 (two months ago)
Steve Shasta r u going to this: https://www.4-star-movies.com/calendar-of-events/live-music-fred-frith-coffin-prick-mark-robinson
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 6 December 2025 16:05 (one month ago)
I've really been on the fence because I'm stuck downtown until 7:30pm.
But if YOU are going perhaps that tips the scales. Plus that lineup is so weird and funny.
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Friday, 12 December 2025 16:32 (four weeks ago)
Robinson is gonna do an annual dc area holiday show with other Teenbeat acts December 28 at little Galaxy Hut in Arlington, VA
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 December 2025 22:00 (three weeks ago)