Is there anything remotely close to "I only have eyes for you?" in the Doo Wop universe?

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The Flamingos "I Only Have Eyes For You" is an extraordinary track, so last year I got it in my head that I should be checking out more Doo Wop. So far I haven't heard anything else approaching the coolness of this song though. Was it just one of those special moments, or were there other recordings in the genre that possess that kind of magic? Hey thanks!

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Matos and Dan and Banana to thread. It is one of the greatest songs -- greatest *things* -- in this our weary world.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

i think "sh-boom" by the chords is as good (ie, great)!

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

ooh - and "why do fools fall in love?"!

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

"Why Do Fools Fall In Love?" comes close but "Sh-Boom" isn't even in the same universe.

Seriously, "I Only Have Eyes For You" is one of the greatest songs ever recorded.

Dan (So Amazing) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Great Fugees sample, too.

It's not doo wop, but "Harlem Shuffle" by Bob & Earl delivers the same chill up my back.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

whaaaa? what's wrong with "sh-boom"? not enough pathos?

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

"Sh Boom" doesn't quite have the same "In Xanadu did Kublah Khan a Pleasuredom erect" quality as IOHEFY.

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I'd say "Harlem Shuffle" is in the same borough, so to speak - but the thing that makes "I Only Have Eyes For You" so amazing is partly that there really isn't anything else like it. I don't know of any earlier doo-wop (or rock, for that matter) instance of taking a light pop standard and so completely owning it, reshaping it in the image of the new artist's own vision. For me, the nearest analogous tune is Coltrane's treatment of "Greensleeves," but Coltrane 1) is already regarded as a badass, and 2) is operating in a still-new but extant jazz tradition of making "jazz versions" of standards.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

I don't know of any earlier doo-wop (or rock, for that matter) instance of taking a light pop standard and so completely owning it, reshaping it in the image of the new artist's own vision.

well, there WAS that elvis dude.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

which light-pop standards do you have in mind?

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

well, there WAS that elvis dude.

Oh, don't even start.

Dan (SO FUCKING OVERRATED) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Elvis' version of "Blue Moon" is close, but too minimal to overcome the endless lushness of the Flamingos.

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

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elvis's version of "i don't care if the sun don't shine," for example.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

and i'm not saying that's a better recording than "i only have eyes for you" -- it doesn't hold a candle to "i only have eyes for you" -- i'm just saying that the flamingos didn't invent the idea of remaking pop standards in their image.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

(I think "Can't Help Falling In Love With You" is the only Elvis song I can actually stand and it does actually approach the awesomeness of "I Only Have Eyes For You" but it has nothing to do with doo-wop.)

Dan (BN OTM Re: Uniqueness) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Elvis aside, how about the obvious choices? "In the Still of the Nite" and "Earth Angel"?

Chuck B, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the person who said that this song was recorded in space by benevolent aliens who sent it to us so we wouldn't be so lame anymore is OTM.

"Little Star," by the Elegants, is in the same league though.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

The Wind, Nolan Strong & the Diablos.

lastdance, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Howbout the Platters? I think "Only You" and "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" sound as pretty as "IOHEFY" to my ears. (Which probably only demonstrates how far out of my element I am when discussing this sort of music.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I think "In the Still of the Nite" used to be the Number One Oldie, based on a tabulation of votes cast by the Oldies Lovers Consortium. Maybe "Earth Angel" was Number Two.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

The Oldies Lovers Consortium? WHAT THE HOLY FUCK< KEN< WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOU/

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

It's not doowop but Angel Baby conveys a similar feeling but in a great garage way. And FWIW Angel Baby is the #1 oldie for LA.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm making shiznit up, Matt. 'Tis the holiday season, after all. Gotta get through it somehow.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

OK, I found a website that said it was Number 1 on the WCBS-FM listeners poll for eighteen years straight. When it came out it was a B-side.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Wait, I've found one:

"Metal Postcard" - Siouxsie and the Banshees

Dan ("In The Still Of The Night" Is Awesome And Possibly As Good) Perry (Dan Per, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

"Teenager in Love" is probably the greatest song ever, but it is chipper in its heartbreak. "I Only Have Eyes..." and "Little Star" have weird spooky melancholy production, which is I think what is being discussed. I mean, I love "Only You" beyond hope, but it's pretty damn straightforward.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Here (assuming this works) is somebody's posting of the top WCBS oldies for 1997, with slots one and two as advertised. I don't even remember how number three goes, and number four I almost posted for consideration.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

63. Tokens - Lion Sleeps Tonight

Dan (Another Contender) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Not doowop but how about This Magic Moment?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Of course, once these things get started, they have a certain momentum. And so, 1.6 points furhter up the FM dial, the number one song was always "Won't Get Fooled Again."

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

To answer a different question- the best doowop video I ever saw was on the Sonny and Cher show when the golden statues in the museum came to life to sing "Little Darlin'." And froze back onto their pedestals when it was over.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

My inner child just shat his pants.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Exactly what factors makes one of these songs "doo-wop" or not?

(Not argumentative - genuinely curious.)

Myonga Von Boggle (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

To me "doo wop" means that the song is dominated by male harmony vocals.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

and i'm not saying that's a better recording than "i only have eyes for you" -- it doesn't hold a candle to "i only have eyes for you" -- i'm just saying that the flamingos didn't invent the idea of remaking pop standards in their image.

yeah but Elvis's "Blue Moon" really isn't very different from the standard - just different instrumentation. The tempo's the same, the delivery's not really "now here's the rock version" nor even particularly "here's the Elvis version" - he's doin' his thing, but he's not doing what Flamingos do, which is to completely reimagine the song in a way nobody would have guessed at. "Blue Moon" is clever; "I Only Have Eyes" is radical, disjunctive, all them fifty-cent words one uses to say "unbelievably asskicking." That's all I mean: that while others did "jazz versions" or "rock versions" or what have you, this one's different insofar as it really reimagines the song from top to bottom.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

add to the list:

paul anka "Put Your Head on my Shoulder"
roy orbison "Only the Lonely" and "Crying" and "Dream Baby"

neither of those are very doo wop tho. yeah, i think doo wop involves harmony action. "doo wop" being the kind of vocalization that might come behind the person singing word lyrics.
m.

msp (mspa), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Something that comes nearly as close: "There's A Moon Out Tonight" by the Capris

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I mean, if I heard a song by a primarily vocal quartet, heavy on the wordless backup vocals and the C-Am-F-G - to me, that screams "doo-wop". (Or croons doo-wop, maybe.)

(kinda x-post)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

If we're gonna mention Elvis' "Blue Moon," we should also mention The Marcels.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i'm not sure it's even properly doo-wop, and if it is it transcends the doo-wop universe. while it is one of the all-time greats, from the doowop world, i'd class the two uptempo Del-Vikings hits (Come Go With Me and Whispering Bells) with it.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

my actual candidate, which will cause Dan to kill me I fear, is "Lonesome Town" by the Cramps

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

i was introduced to this by AMERICAN GRAFITTI. love it.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

What sets IOHEFY apart for me is how damn slow it is. Plus the whole arrangment is just surreal. Two other nice lil slow-burners by the Flamingos are: Mio Amore and Love Walked In.

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

my actual candidate, which will cause Dan to kill me I fear, is "Lonesome Town" by the Cramps

As great as the Cramps are, the Ricky Nelson version is actually better.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

agreed w/ the general consensus that "iohefy" is pretty unreplicable, but a few other doo-wop (or doo-wop-esque) songs that might work up a similar ghostliness: the solitaires' "i don't stand a ghost of a chance," harvey and the moonglows' "ten commandments of love," the fleetwoods' "tragedy," lots of stuff by the orioles, and the flamingos' own "ladder of love" and "golden teardrops."

zzxjoanw, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

the moonglows a good call

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

"Runaround Sue" counts, right? That song is total perfection.

musically (musically), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

How about "It's Too Soon to Know" by the Orioles?

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Yes to Nolan Strong and the Capris.

While none of these quite match the Flamingos' record, I would also mention:

Sleepwalk/Santo and Johnny
Hushabye/Mystics
Image of a Girl/Safaris (NOT Surfaris of “Wipe Out” fame)

Also very fond of Dion's "Can't Help But Wonder Where I'm Bound." With or without strings. And speaking of the Flamingos, also love "Lovers Never Say Goodbye."

JAS, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

the ink spots "reprocessed" a lot of standards by their own mode: the whole bass voice recitation, the guitar arpeggios, the tenor lead. this is sort of a standard move of vocal groups, actually. not to take anything away from the flamingos' record which is beautiful.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

fact: there are 100s of beautiful doo-wop records, and we could go all week just listing them.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

Yes. The Ink Spots mention reminds me of one of my favorites- "Gloria" by the Cadillacs, which was a remake of a Mills Brothers song- well it turns out the Mills Brothers version was a cover too.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

i think the idea of a "cover" is sort of anachronistic here. people wrote songs, and other people sang them.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

pedantic note: historically the idea of the "cover" record emerged from the record industry practice of making a near-identical version of a record by a different artist and putting that record out with greater distribution, hence smothering (covering) the commercial potential of the original. there was often (but not always) a racial dimension to this.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Also beautiful: "Over the Mountain, Across the Sea" by, I think, Johnnie and Joe

Chuck B, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

there's a doo-wop universe?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I thought the word "cover" was a little dodgy as I typed it.

there's a doo-wop universe?
Well, there certainly is a dooo-wop cafe where, in fact, the history of the doo-wop "Gloria" is explained.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

As to "taking a light pop standard and reshaping it in the image of the new artist's own vision", two doowop classics are "Where or When" by the Belmonts and "The Way You Look Tonight" by the Jaguars.

Allen Baekeland (Allen Baekeland), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
The Flamingos are in a league of their own and you just can't stop at "I only have Eyes For You." Being an avid collector of what we now call "Doo Wop" for 50 years - take or give a year; there is no music like it - never will be and the Flamingos are at the top of the ladder in my book.It was a style like this and many others that prompted a life-long journey into a genre of an addictive and seductive nature.

George Waller, Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm no doo-wopologist, but I've heard a fair deal of it. To my admittedly incomplete knowledge, "Sea of Love" by Phil Philips is the only other doo-wopoid song that has the same "gift from benevolent aliens" quality that "I Only Have Eyes for You" has.

O-Keigh (O-Keigh), Thursday, 20 April 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

maybe by the chantels is in this category.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 20 April 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

and of course santo and johnny's sleepwalk.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 20 April 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

i know the flamingoes' song from the american graffitti soundtrack, and it sounds so brilliant on there, all echoey and even more ghostly and beautifully fucked up because its coming from a car stereo. some of those great, great songs don't sound any better than they do in this movie.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 21 April 2006 08:06 (nineteen years ago)

"Tenderness" by Paul Simon. Not neccessarily a doo-wop-song per se, but it has a lot of the same musical elements as "I Only Have Eyes For You" and it is a well-known fact that Paul Simon is a huge doo-wop fan.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
Now that WCBS-FM is gone, it's a good thing the PBS stations are keeping the oldies alive, at least during pledge week.

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

as of right now I would say "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" is very nearly as good, but the singer's register is brash whereas the dude in the Flamingos is just constantly in the sweet spot

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

had this song on repeat all night. it's hitting me so hard

gynecologic pop (The Reverend), Saturday, 19 December 2009 05:32 (sixteen years ago)

still have it on repeat tbh

gynecologic pop (The Reverend), Saturday, 19 December 2009 05:42 (sixteen years ago)

feelin kinda like fuck all other music ever made

gynecologic pop (The Reverend), Saturday, 19 December 2009 05:47 (sixteen years ago)

I don't know if we're in a garden

just a moonful of sugar (Abbott), Saturday, 19 December 2009 05:51 (sixteen years ago)

or on a crowded avenue

just a moonful of sugar (Abbott), Saturday, 19 December 2009 05:51 (sixteen years ago)

oobopshoobop

mojitos (a cocktail) (Cave17Matt), Saturday, 19 December 2009 05:54 (sixteen years ago)

It's not necessarily doo-wop, but sonically the closest I've heard to "I Only Have Eyes For You" is the original "Goin' Out Of My Head."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkCa5l_UGAk

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 December 2009 08:07 (sixteen years ago)

this fucking song!

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 19 December 2009 08:24 (sixteen years ago)

"daddy's home" deserves a mention here

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 19 December 2009 08:40 (sixteen years ago)

I just read Greg Milner's fabulous book on audio recording, Perfecting Sound Forever, and I'm thinking about "I Only Have Eyes" in its terms right now. The way it sounds is the most crucial thing about it--the book talks about the longstanding tension between adherents of music-capturing without adornments like room noise (Milner dubs them Edisons: Thomas Alva idealized getting down the instruments only) and those who wanted the sound bouncing off the walls as well as coming from the players' fingers. "I Only Have Eyes" is a clear example of the latter, and there's so much mystery to it, coming from its drenched, echoing sonic quality. The instruments seem to blur, though there's plenty of definition; the echo conjures a vast space. It's enormous but the arrangement and especially the vocals are super-delicate; it's one of the most uniquely proportioned records I know of. It's a great ambient record while at the same time being an interpretive masterpiece.

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Saturday, 19 December 2009 09:44 (sixteen years ago)

Great post. I think the main thing is how it takes a rather minimal arrangement and fills this huge space with it.

gynecologic pop (The Reverend), Saturday, 19 December 2009 14:42 (sixteen years ago)

worth remembering I think that it is a live recording - not minimizing the choices made by the engineers about mic/instrument/amp placement & the choices made by the musicians about how to play, but the fact that what you're hearing is taking place in real space & time contributes, I think to the wonder & to the ambient quality matos notes: the ambience is real and palpable.

Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Saturday, 19 December 2009 14:59 (sixteen years ago)

(however according to Terry Johnson vocal reverb was added in mastering, and reverb's an essential part of the overall sonic picture, so the point is if not moot reduced)

Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Saturday, 19 December 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

I wrote something about this song a couple years ago & I was pretty happy with it, so what the hell:

http://pitchfork.com/features/resonant-frequency/6555-resonant-frequency-44/

Mark, Saturday, 19 December 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

That book looks interesting. Thanks for the recommendation, Matos.

Cage, Trintignant, Sheen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 December 2009 15:23 (sixteen years ago)

great post matos, OTM all the way

see it's songs like this that make me realize i'm not just being and "audiophile" d-bag (or at least i hope i'm not)...but the way records are recorded now would strange every bit of life out of this song...

frankly anymore i think - outside of hip hop - i probably like music just as much based on its recording...i really feel like good sounding records are such a dying breed, like i wanna support ppl on the good side of the battle...

jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 19 December 2009 15:33 (sixteen years ago)

he records me a lot, so puttin that on the table, but scott solter is old-school love-of-sound engineer all the way - I don't know if much/any of what he records would be in your neighborhood but if you listen to what he does just at a sonic level, he is truly incredible

Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Saturday, 19 December 2009 15:56 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

this song is the Rite of Spring of doo-wop

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 June 2014 02:41 (eleven years ago)

Meaning French bohemians pelted each other with fruit upon hearing it?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 June 2014 02:48 (eleven years ago)

Damn, can't post the Busby Berkeley "dames" clip from an iPad.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:04 (eleven years ago)

"I Only Have Eyes for You" > "Sh-Boom" by the Crew-Cuts > all other songs ever recorded

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:04 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA52-IbB98o

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:07 (eleven years ago)

Only know the Chords' version of "Sh-Boom," which is great.

That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 June 2014 04:07 (eleven years ago)

Huh, so you've never heard "A-nonny ding dong, a-lang a-lang a-lang. Boom bah-doh, bah-doo, bah-doodle-ay" and "Sh-boom, sh-boom. A-ya-da-da, da-da-da, da-da-da da"? Well, we'll have to fix that right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9G0-4TWwew

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 19 June 2014 10:31 (eleven years ago)

This song, which was featured prominently in Charlie Brooker's Black Mirror sounds quite similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vbgaKcikE

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 19 June 2014 10:46 (eleven years ago)

Peeps upthread are correct w/r/t the Orioles' "It's Too Soon To Know":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1q7xXXVoCY

Tim F, Thursday, 19 June 2014 12:58 (eleven years ago)

Meaning French bohemians pelted each other with fruit upon hearing it?

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:48 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Stupid late-night drunk thread revival, but there is something very shocking to the ear about it (in a beautiful way).

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:10 (eleven years ago)

Fans of this kind of thing would probably enjoy the final tune on the last Dirty Projectors record (I hope):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7p6lD66MHo

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:12 (eleven years ago)

It's Too Soon To Know otm

g simmel, Thursday, 19 June 2014 22:58 (eleven years ago)

This song, which was featured prominently in Charlie Brooker's Black Mirror sounds quite similar.

IIRC this was written by randy newman

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 19 June 2014 22:59 (eleven years ago)

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57tK6aQS_H0

what what

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:00 (eleven years ago)

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIUf6dOGc1c

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:04 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggwKYZlPBaE

billstevejim, Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:50 (ten years ago)

not sure why but this song strikes me as super intense, dreamy and psychedelic.

billstevejim, Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:51 (ten years ago)

it is!

niels, Thursday, 24 March 2016 22:30 (ten years ago)

nothing matches "i only have eyes for you", but these songs are special:

the mellows and lilian leach - smoke from your cigarette

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVetDItX6Z0

the spaniels - you gave me peace of mind (check out gerald gregory's bass vocals):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iNppW4MCO8

i suppose this is cheating when talking about other-worldly doo-wop, but i have a great fondness for the dissonant harmonies (wait, is that actually even possible?) of the nu sounds' "black sky and blue moon":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryh-2x3ERvE

diana krallice (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 March 2016 22:54 (ten years ago)

"Lilacs In The Rain" sounds like nothing else I've heard, for some reason that I'm not able to ID right now. I heard it this afternoon for the first time and I thought of this thread right away, where most of the suggestions seem to answer "What are some classic doo-wop singles?" rather than "What are the most otherworldly druggy jams that did not reach what The Flamingos achieved but at least came sorta close?"

I think "Black Sky and The Blue Moon" fits the criteria though. Those other two sound pretty cool.

billstevejim, Friday, 25 March 2016 00:18 (ten years ago)

Not had a chance to read through whole thread so will just assume that the story of their background has come up. Apparently Flamingoes were black jews so they grew up with a different singing model than the more prevalent Christian church alumni.
I have a full length cd of Flamingoes material and I'm not sure how comprehensive of their work it is.
Great group and that song has always been a fav of mine.
Mercury Rev did a pretty good version around the turn of the milenium.

Stevolende, Friday, 25 March 2016 00:35 (ten years ago)

the "black hebrew" aspect seems... complicated. not because the flamingos weren't formed out of a black hebrew israelite congregation- they were- but i'm not sure how much documentation there is on the singing model of black hebrew israelite congregations versus black christian congregations of the era.

for instance, here's a contemporary recording from a black hebrew congregation. now i'm not an expert on gospel tradition, but this seems pretty similar to christian gospel recordings, to the point where one of the singers, presumably out of habit, keeps invoking jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxSbeHZpvdY

it's possible that in the '40s and '50s black hebrew israelite musical styles diverged from black christian gospel before re-converging at some later date, but given the, uh, racism-abetted lack of strong historical links between black hebrew israelites and other forms of judaism, i'm skeptical of making too much of the flamingos' black hebrew israelite background.

diana krallice (rushomancy), Friday, 25 March 2016 10:58 (ten years ago)


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