Is there an official PAZZ & JOPP 2005 THREAD or should we just use old, vaguely related threads to talk about it?

(Already voted but I need to think up something vaguely interesting for the comments.)

1. Depeche Mode, Playing the Angel
2. New Order, Waiting For The Sirens' Call

Singles:

1. Depeche Mode, "Precious"
2. New Order, "Krafty"

3. Bloc Party, "Banquet"

I think trying to overexplain all your specific votes as some sort of general comment on the State of the World is a mug's game. In this case I'm only planning to talk about compilations and how this year seemed to almost drown in them (a good thing).

Alfred's prediction on the albums is accurate but the singles votes are off -- they are 2 and 3 instead. ;-) xpost -- Jaymc's almost got it! "Banquet" was my number one single, but I didn't vote for Silent Alarm as an album if only because I didn't play it as much as the "Banquet" EP straight up.

I must be more jealous than you, because whenever I read the comments, I invariably think that I could do better than 90% of what's out there if I was passing a basketball-sized kidney stone. And, um, if I actually bothered to sit down & write something (& put my words where my ego went).

1) you loved music instead of hated it
2) you loved fun instead of hated it
3) you felt this would be a fine way to counteract the dispiriting effects of 9/11

I found this line of argument uncompelling.

oh wait, that was last year.

no wait, sorry, the year before.

my bad, it was the year before that.

ad infinitum

1. M.I.A. - Arular - XL (23)
2. The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (22)
3. The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (20)
4. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-a-Fella (5)
5. A Frames - Black Forest - Sub Pop (5)
6. DJ Koze - Kosi Comes Around - Kompakt (5)
7. The Go-Betweens - Oceans Apart - Yep Roc (5)
8. Crazy Frog - Crazy Frog Presents Crazy Hits - Next Plateau/Universal (5)
9. Kiki & Herb - Kiki & Herb Will Die for You - Evolver (5)
10. DangerDoom - The Mouse and the Mask - Epitaph (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Three 6 Mafia ft. Young Buck, Eightball & MJG - Stay Fly - Hypnotize Minds/Columbia
2. Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings - How Long Do I Have to Wait for You? - Daptone
3. The Legendary K.O. - George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People - MP3
4. Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Welcome to Jamrock - Universal/Tuff Gong
5. Brad Paisley - Alcohol - Arista Nashville
6. The Field - Love vs. Distance - Kompakt
7. Paul Wall ft. Big Pokey - Sittin' Sideways - Atlantic
8. Capone - U So Craaazzzy - Fastlife
9. Kanye West - Hey Mama - Roc-a-Fella
10. Of Montreal - Wraith Pinned to the Mist and Other Games - Polyvinyl

(but boo: you people and your "Stay Fly" love)

Yay! I'm glad I'm not the only one who voted for this. I hope lots of people do. And you know, I never saw them perform, so if anyone's wondering if it works just as an album, oh yeah. In its way I think it's the most -- and best -- punk record of the year. And even though I don't listen to the monologuey bits every time through, they're great too.

xpost: Tim, that is shocking

1. Paul McCartney, Chaos & Creation in the Backyard

Absolutely nobody will guess my number ten selection for albums or singles.

Albums
10. Scott Stapp - The Great Divide - Sony

Singles
10. Ying Yang Twins - Wait (The Whisper Song) (Chopped & Screwed by Michael "5000" Watts for the Swisha House) - TVT

Cuz they're listening to Scott Stapp?

And it took exactly one nanosecond for me to go "FUCK!! WHY DIDN'T I VOTE FOR X INSTEAD OF Y?!"

x = "george bush doesn't care about black people"
y = "gold digger"

Don't be like me, kids!

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Dalek - Absence - Ipecac (20)
2. Jesu - Jesu - Hydra Head (17)
3. Farm Fresh - Time Is Running Out - Peanuts & Corn (15)
4. Orthrelm - OV - Ipecac (13)
5. M.I.A. - Arular - XL/Interscope (8)
6. Clipse - We Got It 4 Cheap, Vol. 2 - No Label (6)
7. Odd Nosdam - Burner - Anticon (6)
8. Mouthus - Slow Globes - Troubleman Unlimited (5)
9. FM3 - The Buddha Machine - Staalplaat (5)
10. Animal Collective - Feels - FatCat (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Ying Yang Twins - Wait (The Whisper Song) - TVT
2. My Chemical Romance - Helena - Reprise
3. Fall Out Boy - Sugar, We're Going Down - Island
4. D4L - Laffy Taffy - Asylum/Atlantic
5. LCD Soundsystem - Daft Punk Is Playing At My House - DFA/EMI
6. David Banner - Play - Universal
7. Kanye West ft. Jamie Foxx - Gold Digger - Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam
8. Four Tet - Smile Around The Face - Domino
9. Mike Jones Ft. Slim Thug and Paul Wall - Still Tippin' -
Swishahouse/Warner Bros.
10. Antony And The Johnsons - Hope There's Someone - Secretly Canadian

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Konono No. 1 - Congotronics - Crammed Disc (12)
2. Amadou and Mariam - Dimanche a Bamako - Nonesuch (12)
3. M.I.A. - Arular - Interscope (10)
4. Ha-Ash - Mundos Opuestos - Sony International (10)
5. Various Artists - Run the Road - Vice Records (10)
6. Luny Tunes & Baby Ranks - Mas Flow 2 - Universal Latino (10)
7. Kate Bush - Aerial - Sony (10)
8. Kiki & Herb - Kiki & Herb Will Die for You - Evolver (10)
9. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Sub Pop (8)
10. T.O.K. - Unknown Language - Vp/Universal (8)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Daddy Yankee - Gasolina - Universal
2. Lady Sovereign - Random - Chocolate Industries
3. LCD Soundsystem - Daft Punk Is Playing at My House - DFA
4. Ciara - Oh - La Face
5. Rihanna - Pon de Replay - Def Jam
6. Mike Jones - Still Tippin' - Asylum
7. The Last Town Chorus - Modern Love (Live) - Free download at
lasttownchorus.com
8. Baby Ranks, Daddy Yankee et al - Mayor que Yo - Universal Latino
9. Foxy Brown ft. Sizzla - Come Fly With Me - Def Jam
10. Tori Alamaze - Don't Cha - Universal

-- pdf

Ha! that reminds me--the wire didn't ask me to do a top 10 this year. i should check to make sure i'm still on their radar (i contributed to maybe half of their issues in 2005)...anyway, it's probably just as well because I don't have a top 10 to submit! pazz & jop is going to be hard to do this year, i think. i just want to forget 2005 altogether, to be honest. what a fucking terrible year, in every way possible.

YUP (although there were some records i liked)

Albums
1. M.I.A. - Arular (17)
2. Hold Steady - Separation Sunday (17)
3. Kanye West - Late Registration (14)
4. Various Artists - Big Boi Presents Got Purp?, Vol. 2 (12)
5. Franz Ferdinand - You Could Have it So Much Better (9)
6. Raveonettes - Pretty in Black (8)
7. Various Artists - Run the Road (8)
8. Dangerdoom - The Mouse and the Mask (5)
9. Jason Forrest - Shamelessly Exciting (5)
10. Masafumi Takada & Jun Fukuda - killer7 OST (5)

Singles
1. Three 6 Mafia ft. Young Buck, Eightball and MJG - Stay Fly
2. Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc.
3. Paul Wall ft. Big Pokey - Sittin' Sideways
4. Ladytron - Destroy Everything You Touch
5. Basement Jaxx - Oh My Gosh
6. LCD Soundsystem - Tribulations
7. Atmopshere - Watch Out
8. The White Stripes - My Doorbell
9. Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings - Just Dropped In (To See What
Condition My Condition Was In)
10. Beck - Girl

Fuckin' a, this year was weeeeeird. I'm still not entirely sure if I top-ten-liked that Beck song.

Dear Raymond Cummings:

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Nedelle - From The Lion’s Mouth - Kill Rock Stars (15)
2. M.I.A. - Arular - XL/Beggars US (14)
3. Stephen Malkmus - Face The Truth - Matador (13)
4. Aoki Takamasa + Tujiko Noriko - 28 - Paw Tracks (12)
5. Dead Machines - Futures - Troubleman Unlimited (11)
6. Billy Corgan - TheFutureEmbrace - Warner Brothers (9)
7. Why? - Elephant Eyelash - Anticon (8)
8. Excepter - Throne - Load (7)
9. The Fiery Furnaces - Rehearsing My Choir - Rough Trade (6)
10. Animal Collective - Feels - Fat Cat (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Nine Inch Nails - Only - Nothing/Interscope
2. Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc. - Virgin
3. Gwen Stefani - Cool - Interscope
4. Liz Phair - Got My Own Thing - Capitol
5. Madonna - Hung Up - Warner Brothers
6. White Stripes - My Doorbell - V2
7. Love As Laugher - Idol Worship! Idol Worship! - Sub Pop
8. Deerhoof - After Me The Deluge - Kill Rock Stars/5 Rue Christie 9. Regina Spektor - Your Honor - Sire
10. Japanther - The Gravy - Menlo Park

Avenged Sevenfold, City Of Evil
Bebe, Pafuera Telarañas
Jaguares, Cronicas De Un Laberinto
Mike Jones, Who Is Mike Jones?
Opeth, Ghost Reveries

Haha,OTM!

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine - Epic/Clean Slate (15)
2. New Pornographers - Twin Cinema - Matador (14)
3. M.I.A. - Arular - Interscope (13)
4. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa (12)
5. A Frames - Black Forest - Sub Pop (11)
6. Spoon - Gimme Fiction - Merge (10)
7. Girls Aloud - Chemistry - Polydor (7)
8. Fiery Furnaces - Rehearsing My Choir - Rough Trade (7)
9. Stephen Malkmus - Face The Truth - Matador (6)
10. Broadcast - Tender Buttons - Warp (5)

Runners up: Missy Elliott, Goldfrapp, LCD Soundsystem, Kanye West, Mike Jones, White Stripes, Hank Collective, Paul Wall

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
2. Maxi Geil & Playcolt - Makin' Love In The Sunshine - Roebling Hall
3. Mike Jones - Still Tippin' - Asylum
4. Spektrum - May Day - Non Stop
5. Out Hud - It's For You - Kranky
6. Sugababes - Push The Button - Island
7. Rachel Stevens - I Said Never Again (But Here We Are) - Polydor
8. Pipettes - Dirty Mind - Memphis Industries
9. Lady Sovereign - Random - Chocolate Industries
10. Rinocerose - Bitch - V2

I wanted to include R. Kelly's "Trapped In The Closet" for the singles list, but there was a rule stating that each part of that song was to be counted as a discrete entity, and since I couldn't single out a favorite chapter and had no desire to split the song's vote, I opted to omit it from my list entirely. I'm kinda annoyed about that. With this list, I followed three self-imposed rules - the songs must have been released as an actual single in 2005 (so no album tracks, disqualifying a lot of remarkable material), no songs from artists on the albums list, and only one song per artist. (This is why Mike Jones' "Back Then" was omitted.)

Huh. My vote for it in general was accepted (but perhaps that just means it'll be junked). I suppose if anything I was voting for the DVD.

Not me! I strongly endorse everything on my list, and there was a LOT of stuff I wish I could have included. There was a lot of great stuff in 2005, I think many of you are being crazy.

the 'still tippin' remix ft nicole wray, however, is probably eligible. also i prefer it to the original. it's quite different.

Sleater-Kinney, Cam’ron, Mary Timony, Metalux, Deerhoof, Prurient, Jimmy Chamberlin Complex, Love As Laughter, Wooden Wand, Black Dice.

...and there were so many many MANY more deserving records (and singles, come to think of it) that didn’t make it that I almost wanna cry! I could’ve come up with a top 40 this year for the first time ever.

Dude it's the promise that Ying Yang, David Banner and Young Gunz were making all year--a whole album that sounds like skeletal Kraftwerk samples with like a single 808 hit. "Laffy Taffy" is the catchiest one so far.

I get first dibs on calling it "microhop!"

Plus, I like both asses and taffy.

I thought this was a parody of a rote Pazz & Jop comment at first! (It actually made me laugh, then I realized it wasn't supposed to):

>With all due respect to the awful shit that went down in the world, this was a fine enough year for music. <

It's also TRUE, but I STILL thought it was a parody.

(As for the Pazz and Jop poll in general: No comment.)

And this is different than a Kanye / Bush comment because...

a rock critic imagining kanye collaborating with his favorite past-prime rocker

Wasn't that the point?

There's no really reason it shouldn't count.

-- Matthew C Perpetua (perpetu...), December 7th, 2005.

Mathew, I see you gave the New P's Twin Cinema your 2nd slot with 14 points, do you like this one as much and/or more than their prior efforts? I was a fan of their earlier releases, but found this one on 3 listens or so fairly rote. Maybe I need to listen to it some more, or maybe it just is not a very good year for music and an average New Ps cd can chart.

Albums

1. Of Montreal - The Sunlandic Twins Polyvinyl 25
2. Todd Tamanend Clark - Nova Psychedelia - Anopheles 20
3. Paul McCartney - Chaos and Creation in the Backyard Capitol 15
4. Michael Angelo - self-titled (aka "The Guinn Album") Void 10
5. Various Artists - Prog Is Not a Four Letter Word Delay 68 5
6. Clap - Have You Reached Yet? Skyf Zol 5
7. Milk 'n' Cookies - self-titled RPM 5
8. Creme Soda - Tricky Zingers Radioactive 5
9. Jennifer Gentle - Valende Sub Pop 5
10. Architecture in Helsinki - In Case We Die Bar/None 5

Singles

1. Of Montreal "The Party's Crashing Us" Polyvinyl
2. Of Montreal "So Begins Our Alabee" Polyvinyl
3. Of Montreal "Wraith Pinned to the Mist and Other Games" Polyvinyl
4. The Howling Hex 'Apache Energy Plan" Drag City
5. The Mystery Jets "You Can't Fool Me, Dennis" 679
6. Fatty Koo "Bounce" Sony BMG
7. Mazarin "Another One Goes By" I and Ear
8. Jennifer Gentle "I Do Dream You" Sub Pop
9. Architecture in Helsinki "Do the Whirlwind" Bar/None
10. Beck "Girl" Geffen

It's my favorite New Pornographers album, which is saying quite a lot since I really love Mass Romantic and Electric Version. I am quite confident in my opinion that Twin Cinema is a full-on masterpiece. It took me a few months to arrive at that opinion, though.

I encountered that as well, and found a similar solution. Reported it to Chuck who said he'll pass it on to the new media bods.

I don't want to just choose songs from albums as my favorite singles of the year, but I figure all of these were at least "focus tracks" or whatever.

The first two albums were fine case studies in pop-formalist overload. Twin Cinema is less relentless. Matthew's right: it's their best.

But certainly one can enjoy being cynical about music!

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/01/images/George_Will_2.jpg

These are the candidates, order tentative, obviously. Albums/EPs I haven't yet listened to include the Yolanda Perez, Tatu, Ivy Queen, and Iraqi and Burmese Sublime Frequencies comps, as well as several reggaeton comps; and I don't even have copies of likely good disks such as the Lady Sovereign, Madonna, Lindsay Lohan, Shakira, Juelz Santana, Run the Road Vol. 2 comp, Kanye West, Rolling Stones, Hilary Duff, Young Jeezy, Ying Yang Twins, Electric Six, Toby Keith, and Daddy Yankee. I haven't heard most albums from Houston, not to mention about nine-tenths of what's appearing on other lists here. By the way, was there ever a Jacques La Cont/Thin White Duke remix alb?

I want to make a special plug for Kultur Shock, who simultaneously whip System of a Down's and Gogol Bordello's butts.

SINGLES
Kelly Clarkson "Since U Been Gone"
Rich Boy "Get to Poppin'"
Ashlee Simpson "La La"
T. Waters "Throw'd Off"
Deana Carter "The Girl You Left Me For"
Miranda Lambert "Kerosene"
Foxy Brown f. Sizzla "Come Fly With Me"
Pharrell Williams f. Gwen Stefani "Can I Have It Like That"
Ciara f. Ludacris "Oh"
Daddy Yankee "Gasolina"
Ebony Eyez "In Ya Face"
Ashlee Simpson "L.O.V.E."
The Game "Put You on the Game"
Madonna "Hung Up"
Johnny Prez "Tu Pum Pum"
Marion Raven "Break You"
Kelly Osbourne "One Word"

ALBUMS
Fannypack See You Next Tuesday
Ashlee Simpson I Am Me
Various Artists Run the Road
M.I.A. Arular
Annie Anniemal
Deana Carter The Story of My Life
Various Artists Crunk Hits
Kultur Shock Kultura-Diktatura
Mannie Fresh The Mind of Mannie Fresh
Miranda Lambert Kerosene
Franz Ferdinand You Could Have It So Much Better
The Hold Steady Separation Sunday
Living Things Ahead of the Lions
Dungen Ta Det Lugnt
Various Artists Radio Phnom Penh
Shooter Jennings Put the O Back in Country
Gary Allan Tough All Over

(I might make room by disqualifying the Crunk comp, depending on what hits my eardrums in the next 20 days.)

As almost always happens with albums (but not singles), a previous Kogan winner (Big & Rich) didn't make the playoffs with the followup. In fact, the only time a Kogan winner has placed its followup was when I voted Dylan's Love and Theft number eight several years after naming the "Albert Hall bootleg" my number one - though I don't think this should even count, since I'd owned "Albert Hall" since 1971 or so and it was recorded in 1966.

There ya go. (The next few weeks are, to put it mildly, going to be busy.)

This is what I get for half of the conversation being in my head, I know.

xpost - Frank, why should I be so worried about December releases? I heard a great many of them, I don't feel like I'm giving the month short shrift at all. I was going to wait, but realized that the preliminary list was tremendously unlikely to change, so I went ahead with it.

(xpost)

As I noted upthread, I will be voting at the last possible moment, there's way too much music still to consider. I do not understand all you "enthusiastic" indie-poppers voting early.

1) Bonnie Prince Billy/Matt Sweeney - Superwolf
2) A Frames - Black Forest
3) STNNNG - Dignified Sissy
4) Wilderness - s/t
5) Sicbay - Suspicious Icons
6) Low - The Great Destroyer
7) The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree
8) Belles of Skin City - Ha Ha Boardroom Thinktank Tantrums
9) Clipse & The Re-Up Gang - We Got It 4 Cheap Mixtape Vol. 2
10) Deerhoof - The Runners Four
11) Blind Shake - Rizzograph
12) R Kelly - Trapped in the Closet 1-12 (single? maybe whatever it is)
13) The Ponys - Celebration Castle
14) Stephen Malkmus - Face the Truth
15) Falcon Crest - Taste the Thunder Raise the Flag
16) Rogue Wave - Descended Like Vultures
17) The Evens - s/t
18) Matson Jones - s/t
19) Rank Strangers - Chop Chop
20) Sleater-Kinney - The Woods
21) The Nein - Wrath of Circuits
22) Children of Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the Second Psychedelic Era 1975-1995 (box set)
23) Beanie Sigel - The B-Coming

xpost

(xpost)

P.S. Did everyone forget Amerie after all?

[Both "1 Thing" and "Crazy In Love" are Rich Harrison productions, right?]

"1 Thing" is #1 for me.

Thank fuck for that.

I would not mind "1 Thing" being number one but I'm not het up either way in the end.

BEST ALBUMS 0F 2005 (NOW 33 LISTS COMBINED)
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/572849

Yeah "Gold Digger" pretty much exists to become the basis for this song--my number one probably.

-- 'Twan (anthonyisrigh...), December 7th, 2005.

I'm not sure if I follow. Because the singer is pretty? I've seen the video plenty of times but loved the song for months before there was a video, and it didn't really effect my opinion either way. Also do you mean the Hitch version or the Eve version?

This really is the greatest single of the year! Bravo to those who voted it greatest single of the year. In the future, if we are lucky, more songs will sound like this song! I love it!

It *was* a great year for Jan-March album releases (+ leaks). Most years feel backloaded, with lots of great autumn releases that clog my year-end lists come December. But this year, very few records made a strong impression on me from September onward.

2.
M.I.A
Arular
XL/Beggars
10

3.
Gogol Bordello
Gypsy Punks
Side One Dummy
10

4.
Earwhigs
Earwhigs
Not Signed
10

5.
Cowboy Troy
Loco Motive
Warner Brother/Wea
10

6.
Brad Paisley
Time Well Wasted
Arista
10

7.
Neko Case
The Tigers Have Spoken
Chocolate Industries
10

8.
Lee Ann Womack
There's More Where That Came From
MCA:Nashville
10

9.
Annie
Anniemal
Big Beat/Ada
10

10.
The Veronicas
The Secret Life of The Veronicas
Sire
10

1.
Will Young
Switch It On
Sony BMG

2.
Daddy Yankee
Gasolina
Vi Music

3.
Vitalic
You Prefer Cocaine
Play It Again Sam

4.
Madonna
Hung Up
Warner/Maverick

5.
Arctic Monkeys
Bigger Girls and Stolen Sweethears
Dominos

6.
Kayne West
Golddigger
Roc-a-Fella

7.
Crazy Frog
Axel F
?

8.
Lee Ann Womack
20 years and Two Husbands Ago
MCA:Nashville

9.
Jessica Simpson
These Boots were Made For Walking
Warner

10.
The Mountain Goats
This Year
4AD/ADA

1. Jason Forrest - Shamelessly Exciting - Sonig (20)
2. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - Asthmatic Kitty (16)
3. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-A-Fella (16)
4. Jan Jelinek - Kosmischer Pitch - ~scape (12)
5. Eluvium - Talk Amongst the Trees - Temporary Residence Limited (9)
6. Electric Six - Senor Smoke - Warner Bros. (7)
7. Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (5)
8. Okkervil River - Black Sheep Boy - Jagjaguwar (5)
9. Mike Jones - Who Is Mike Jones? - Swishahouse/Asylum (5)
10. Miranda Lambert - Kerosene - Epic (5)

Singles

1. Chemical Brothers - Hold Tight London - Astralwerks
2. Mountain Goats - Dilaudid - 4AD
3. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
4. Shooter Jennings feat. George Jones - 4th of July - Universal South
5. Tori Alamaze - Don't Cha - Universal
6. Ada - Blondix 1 - Areal
7. Ciara feat. Ludacris - Oh - LaFace
8. Brad Paisley - Alcohol - Arista Nashville
9. Sebastian Tellier - La Ritournelle - Lucky Number
10. Capone - U So Craaazzzy - Fastlife

Mercenary 11 Dreams (30) Century Media
Lightning Bolt Hypermagic Mountain (15) Load
Liquor & Poker sampler (12) L&P
Trail of Dead Worlds Apart (10) interscope
The Mind of Mannie Fresh (8) Cash Money/ Universal
Run the Road (5) 679/ Vice
Orishas El Kilo (5) Surco/ Universal Latino
Against Me! Searching for a Former Clarity (5) Fat Wreck Chords
Rod Lee Vol.5: The Official (5) Club Kingz/ Morphius Urban
Alacranes Musical/Banda Lamento Show Piquetes y Lamentos: Grandes Exitos (5) Univision

Singles

King's X "Mudd" (InsideOut)
Conjunto Primavera "Moño Negro" (Fonovisa)
Mercenary "Music Non Stop" (Century Media)
Natasha Bedingfield "These Words" (Sony)
Courtney Jaye "Can’t Behave" (Island)
Diana Reyes "Se Fue" (Musimex/ Universal Latino)
Weezer "Beverly Hills" (Geffen)
Collective Soul "Better Now" (El Music Group)
Kanye West "Gold Digger" (Roc-a-Fella)
Dr. Charles G. Hayes and the Warriors "Jesus Can Work It Out (Remix)" (ICEE Inspirational)

I hope not too many people vote for Black Mountain, because that album wasn't good. Was I supposed to get an email confirmation of my vote, or should I just trust my little individualized ballot when it tells me they got it? I don't want Mercenary to miss the top spot just because of some technical glitch!

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelley Polar - Love Songs of the Hanging Gardens - Environ (18)
2. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - Asthmatic Kitty (16)
3. Out Hud - Let Us Never Speak of It Again - Kranky (13)
4. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - Vice (13)
5. Isolee - Wearemonster - Playhouse (10)
6. Stars - Set Yourself on Fire - Arts and Crafts (10)
7. Vitalic - OK Cowboy - PIAS (5)
8. M.I.A. - Arular - XL/Beggars (5)
9. Superpitcher - Today - Kompakt (5)
10. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
2. Robyn - Be Mine! - Konichiwa
3. Snoop Dogg ft. Justin Timberlake - Signs - Geffen
4. Lindsay Lohan - First - Universal
5. Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl - Interscope
6. Broken Social Scene - 7/4 (Shoreline) - Arts and Crafts
7. Amerie - 1 Thing - Columbia
8. The Killers - Mr. Brightside - Island
9. Death From Above 1979 - Black History Month (Alan Braxe & Fred Falke
Remix) - Vice
10. The Game ft. 50 Cent - Hate It or Love It - Aftermath

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. T.O.K. - Unknown Language - VP/Universal (20)
2. Beanie Sigel - The B. Coming - Def Jam (20)
3. OG Ron C - F-Action 40 - Brickmade (15)
4. Three-6 Mafia - Most Known Unknowns - Sony (10)
5. M.A.N.D.Y. - Body Language - Get Physical (10)
6. DJ Quik - Trauma - Mad Science (5)
7. Trina - The Glamorest Life - Atlantic (5)
8. Young Jeezy - Let's Get It: Thug Motivation 101 - Def Jam (5)
9. Lil Wayne - The Carter II - Cash Money (5)
10. Sean Paul - The Trinity - Atlantic (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Three-6 Mafia, Young Buck, 8Ball & MJG - Stay Fly - Sony
2. Daddy Yankee - Rompe - Interscope
3. Mariah Carey - We Belong Together - Island
4. T.I. - A.S.A.P. - Atlantic
5. Robyn - Be Mine! - Konichiwa
6. Booka Shade - Mandarine Girl - Get Physical
7. T.O.K. - Footprints - VP/Universal
8. Z-Ro featuring Paul Wall and Lil Flip - From the South -
Asylum/Rap-a-Lot
9. Young Jeezy featuring Akon - Soul Survivor - Def Jam
10. Lil Rob - Summer Nights - Upstairs

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (15)
2. The Go-Betweens – Oceans Apart – Jetset (14)
3. M.I.A. - Arular - XL (13)
4. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-a-Fella (12)
5. The New Pornographers – Twin Cinema – Matador (11)
6. LCD Soundsystem – LCD Sounsystem - DFA (9)
7. The Rolling Stones – A Bigger Bang – Columbia (8)
8. The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (7)
9. Spoon – Gimme Fiction – Matador (6)
10. Kate Bush – Aerial – Columbia (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. The Killers – Mr. Brightside (Jacques Lu Cont remix)
2. Kelly Clarkson – Since U Been Gone
3. Madonna – Hung Up
4. Snoop feat. Justin Timberlake and Uncle Charlie – Signs
5. Franz Ferdinand – Do You Want To?
6. Annie – Heartbeat
7. Mariah Carey – We Belong Together
8. 50 Cent – Just A Lil Bit
9. LCD Soundsystem – Tribulations
10. Gorillaz feat. De La Soul – Feel Good, Inc

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (20)
2. M.I.A. - Arular - XL (17)
3. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-a-Fella (17)
4. The Perceptionists - Black Dialogue - Def Jux (10)
5. Bobby Pinson - Man Like Me - RCA (8)
6. Amy Rigby - Little Fugitive - Signiture Sounds (7)
7. Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock and Roll - Fierce Panda (6)
8. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Sub Pop (5)
9. Miranda Lambert - Kerosene - Epic (5)
10. Gogol Bordello - Gypsy Punks: Underdog World Strike - Side One Dummy
(5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. The Legendary K.O. - "George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People" - NO
LABEL
2. Brad Paisley - "Alcohol" - Arista Nashville
3. Miranda Lambert - "Kerosene" - Epic
4. Kanye West - "Heard Em Say" - Roc-a-Fella
5. Amerie - "1 Thing" - Sony
6. Lee Ann Womack - "I May Hate Myself in the Morning" - MCA Nashville
7. Lady Sovereign - "Random" - Chocolate Industries
8. Kelly Clarkson - "Since U Been Gone" - RCA
9. Three 6 Mafia - "Stay Fly" - Hypnotize Minds
10. Gary Allan - "Best I Ever Had" - MCA Nashville

"IMPORTANT: IF YOU WISH TO VOTE FOR ONLY SINGLES (NO ALBUMS), YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE ONLINE FORM. PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR BALLOT TO ceddy@villagevoice.com (please cc: musicintern@villagevoice.com), SPECIFYING "PAZZ & JOP" IN THE SUBJECT HEADING"

twas a misunderstanding-based glitch on the voice techies' part; apparently too late to fix the template on the website for this year (and I wasn't aware of it til I saw scott's post, so thanks, scott, and sorry. actually, I think five people voted only for singles last year, and I seriously doubt any did it just to be "cool," jeez.)

stefan's acclaimed music forum - meta type 2005 albums list
UPDATE DEC 21TH : BEST ALBUMS OF 2005 (NOW INCLUDING 85 LISTS)
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/576906

people who only vote for albums = dorx
people who only vote for singles = the antidorx

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. System of a Down - Mezmerize - Sony (15)
2. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa (14)
3. DJ Target - Aim High, Vol. 2 - Aim High (13)
4. Keith Anderson - Three Chord Country and American Rock & Roll -
Arista
(12)
5. Rachel Stevens - Come and Get It - Universal International (11)
6. Mannie Fresh - The Mind of Mannie Fresh - Cash Money (9)
7. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - Asthmatic Kitty (8)
8. Fannypack - See You Next Tuesday - Tommy Boy (7)
9. Lee Ann Womack - There's More Where That Came From - MCA Nashville
(6)
10. Architecture in Helsinki - In Case We Die - Bar None Records (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Amerie - 1 Thing - Sony
2. Robyn - Be Mine - Konichiwa
3. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
4. Madonna - Hung Up - Warner Brothers
5. Shooter Jennings - 4th of July - Universal South
6. Killers - Mr. Brightside - Island
7. My Chemical Romance - Helena - Reprise
8. Brad Paisley - Alcohol - Arista
9. Game feat. 50 Cent - Hate It or Love It - Aftermath
10. Dierks Bentley - Lot of Leavin' Left to Do - Liberty

Glad my singles vote will count, though god, I was all ready to post it two nights ago so I could get on with comments/christmas shopping/life/etc., and now I'm messed up again figuring out the two or three bottom slots on the list (my first six or seven are locked down, the rest will come from a pool of about 15-20 candidates, same as it works for me almost every year). (Though I've also got a sub-pool of 25-30 other candidates--stuff I dropped from the list early on--and am wondering if I should give a quick listen to some of those as well...the mere thought of figuring albums into this--I did hear a few this year I thought were okay--gives me a headache.)

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Deana Carter - The Story Of My Life - Vanguard (15)
2. Go-Kart Mozart - Tearing Up The Album Chart - West Midlands (14)
3. Ulver - Blood Inside - The End (13)
4. DJ Lil Jay - Operation:Playtime - Club Kingz/Morphius Urban (12)
5. Various Artists - The Ikon Records Story - Frantic (11)
6. Primordial - The Gathering Wilderness - Metal Blade (9)
7. Kylesa - To Walk A Middle Course - Prosthetic (8)
8. Various Artists - Crunk Hits - TVT (7)
9. Gospel - The Moon Is A Dead World - Level Plane (6)
10. Raging Speedhorn - How The Great Have Fallen - Steamhammer/SPV (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
2. Three 6 Mafia ft. Young Buck & Eightball & MJG - Stay Fly - Sony
3. Rod Lee - Dance My Pain Away - Club Kingz
4. Mia Doi Todd - The Way - Plug Research
5. O-Solo - 6 Minutes - TVT
6. Brad Paisley - Alcohol - Arista
7. Lady Sovereign - Cha Ching (Cheque 1, 2 Remix) - Vice
8. Joe Nichols - Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off - Universal South
9. Transistor Transistor - Empathy - Level Plane
10. TV On The Radio - Dry Drunk Emperor - Touch & Go

primordial: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/reviews/may2005/primordial.aspx

http://www.decibelmagazine.com/reviews/nov2005/ed_gein.aspx

(and i have a blast doing it. it is the ruling magazine on the block.)

SINGLES
1. Kelly Clarkson -- "Since U Been Gone" -- RCA
2. Rich Boy -- "Get to Poppin'" -- Zone 4/Interscope
3. Ashlee Simpson -- "La La" -- Geffen
4. T. Waters -- "Throw'd Off" -- So So Def/Virgin
5. Deana Carter -- "The Girl You Left Me For" -- Vanguard
6. Miranda Lambert -- "Kerosene" -- Epic
7. Foxy Brown f. Sizzla -- "Come Fly With Me" -- Roc-A-Fella
8. Pharrell Williams f. Gwen Stefani -- "Can I Have It Like That?" -- Star Trak/Interscope
9. Ciara f. Ludacris -- "Oh" -- LaFace
10. Daddy Yankee -- "Gasolina" -- V.I.

Albums

1. Petra Haden Sings: The Who Sell Out Bar/None 10
2. Kate Bush Aerial Sony 10
3. Fiery Furnaces Rehearsing My Choir Rough Trade 10
4. Gang Gang Dance God's Money The Social Registry 10
5. Out Hud Let Us Never Speak Of It Again Kranky 10
6. Dengue Fever Escape From Dragon House BRG 10
7. Kinski Alpine Static Sub Pop 10
8. Konono N°1 Congotronics Crammed Discs 10
9. Kiki and Herb Will Die For You Evolver 10
10. Various Artists Não Wave: Brazil Post Punk 1982-1988 Man Recordings 10

Singles

1. Mountain Goats Dance Music 4AD
2. Madonna Hung Up Warner Bros.
3. M.I.A. Hombre XL/Beggars
4. Basement Jaxx Oh My Gosh XL
5. Calla It Dawned On Me Beggars US
6. Legendary K.O. George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People no label
7. Laura Cantrell 14th Street Matador
8. Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In) Daptone
9. Kelly Osbourne Sound of the Crowd Sanctuary
10. Kelly Clarkson Since U Been Gone RCA

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Deadly Snakes - Porcella - In the Red (25)
2. Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock and Roll - Fierce Panda (15)
3. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Sub Pop (10)
4. Go! Team - Thunder, Lightning, Strike - Memphis Industries (10)
5. Serena Maneesh - Serena Maneesh - Honeymilk (10)
6. Wilderness - Wilderness - Jagjaguwar (10)
7. National - Alligator - Beggars Banquet (5)
8. Isolee - Wearemonster - Playhouse (5)
9. Franz Ferdinand - You Could Have It So Much Better - Sony (5)
10. Stephen Malkmus - Face the Truth - Matador (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Deadly Snakes - Gore Veil - In the Red
2. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
3. Madonna - Hung Up - Warner Bros.
4. Jason Forrest - New Wave Folk Austerity - Soniq
5. Akron/Family - Future Myth - Young Gods
6. Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl - Interscope
7. Sufjan Stevens - Come On! Feel The Illinoise! - Asthmatic Kitty
8. Franz Ferdinand - Do You Want To? - Sony
9. Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict A Riot - Universal
10. Silver Jews - K-Hole - Drag City

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (18)
2. Electric Six - Senor Smoke - WEA Import (18)
3. Louis XIV - The Best Little Secrets Are Kept - Pineapple/Atlantic
(15)
4. Spoon - Gimme Fiction - Merge (10)
5. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa import (10)
6. Queens Of The Stone Age - Lullabies To Paralyze - Interscope (7)
7. Mannie Fresh - The Mind Of Mannie Fresh - Cash Money (6)
8. Brakes - Give Blood - Rough Trade (6)
9. R. Kelly - TP3.Reloaded - Jive (5)
10. Darkness - One Way Ticket To Hell And Back - Atlantic (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Trick Daddy feat. Cee-Lo & Ludacris - Sugar (Gimme Some) - Atlantic
2. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
3. Killers - Mr. Brightside - Island/Def Jam
4. M83 - Don't Save Us From Flames - Mute
5. Natalie - Goin' Crazy - Universal
6. Queens Of The Stone Age - Little Sister - Interscope
7. Pitbull feat. Lil Jon - Toma - TVT
8. Robyn - Be Mine! - Konichiwa
9. R. Kelly - In The Kitchen - Jive
10. Rilo Kiley - Portions For Foxes - Warner Bros

Anthony and the Johnsons - I Am a Bird Now - 10
Cam'ron - Purple Haze - 10
Big Boi and the Purple Ribbon All Stars - Got Purp? Vol. II - 10
Minna Daisuki Katamari Damacy (We Love Katamari Video Game OST) - 10
Silvana Deluigi - Yo! - 10
June Carter Cash - Keep On the Sunny Side: Her Life In Music - 10
Lady Sovereign - Vertically Challenged - 10
Gonzales - Solo Piano - 10
Feist - Let It Die - 10
Iron and Wine - Woman King - 10

SINGLES:

Three 6 Mafia with MJG and Eightball - Stay Fly
Amerie - 1 Thing
Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl
Missy Elliott - Lose Control
Mariah Carey- Shake It Off
Slim Thug, Mike Jones + Paul Wall - Still Tippin'
Big Boi and the Purple Ribbon All-Stars - Kryptonite (I'm On It)
Gorillaz - Feel Good, Inc.
Ying Yang Twins with Pitbull - Shake
Anthony and the Johnsons - Hope There's Someone

Why, because I included his last name? Anyway, it rocks.

I doubt it. Not everyone at Stylus or Pitchfork post on ILM, and it made both their lists.

1. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa (15)
2. Brooke Valentine - Chain Letter - Virgin Records (15)
3. Fiery Furnaces - Rehearsing My Choir - Rough Trade (15)
4. Bratz - Rock Angels - Hip-O Records (10)
5. Electric Six - Senor Smoke - WEA (10)
6. System of a Down - Mezmerize - Sony (10)
7. MIA - Arular - XL/Beggars (10)
8. Bunky - Born to Be a Motorcycle - Asthmatic Kitty (5)
9. Certified Bananas - August mix - no label (5)
10. Missy Elliott - The Cookbook - Atlantic/WEA (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Missy Elliott - Lose Control (Jacques Lu Cont Remix) - Atlantic/WEA
2. Rihanna - Pon De Replay - Def Jam
3. The Killers - Mr. Brightside (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix) -
Universal
4. Backstreet Boys - Incomplete - Jive
5. Maxi Geil - Making Love in the Sunshine - Roebling Hall
6. Amerie - 1 Thing - Sony
7. Vitalic - My Friend Dario - PIAS
8. Rachel Stevens - I Said Never Again (But Here We Are) - Universal
9. R. Kelly - In the Kitchen (Remix) - Jive
10. Weezer - Beverly Hills - Geffen

Just missed because of not being quite good enough: "No One Takes Your Freedom." Just missed because they're on albums I voted for: "Be Mine," "Rock 'n' Roll Evacuation," which would probably be pretty high up.

Very Near misses on albums:
Missy Elliott - The Cookbook
Annie - Anniemal
Ying Yang Twins - USA
The Ark - State of the Ark
Konono No.1 - Congotronics
Vybz Kartel - Up 2 Di Time
Himuro - Mild Fantasy Violence
Fatlip - The Loneliest Punk
Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings - Naturally
R. Kelly - TP.3 Reloaded
Amadou and Mariam - Dimanche a Bamako
Gwen Stefani - Love. Angel. Music. Baby
Mannie Fresh - The Mind of Mannie Fresh
Beanie Sigel - The B. Coming
Ludacris - Red Light District
Malcolm Holcombe - I Never Heard You Knockin'
Richard Thompson - Front Parlour Balladas
13 + God - 13 + God
Del McCoury Band - The Company We Keep
Common - The Corner
Kanye West - Late Registration
Jim White - Searching for the Wrong Eyed Jesus OST
Uncle Earl - Uncle Earl
Colleen - The Golden Morning
A Hawk and a Hacksaw - Darkness at Noon
Doveman - The Acrobat
Broken Flowers OST
White Stripes - Get Behind Me, Satan
Jimmie Dale Gilmore - Come On Back

Things I really should have listened to by now or need to listen to more still that could have impacted any list (based on recommendation, reputation, etc):
Z-Ro - Let the Truth Be Told
David Banner - Certified
Emiliana Torrini - Fisherman's Woman
Clipse - We Got It For Cheap Mixtape
One Kiss Can Lead To Another Box Set
Charlie Poole - You Ain't Talkin' To Me Box Set
Dizzy Gillespie + Charlie Parker - Town Hall NYC
John Coltrane - One Down, One Up
Lightning Bolt - Hypermagic Mountain
Kraftwerk - Minimum/Maximum
Andrew Bird - ""and the Mysterious Production of Eggs
Edan - Beauty and the Beat
Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock + Roll
Jamie Lidell - Multiply
Gorillaz - Demon Days
Electric Six - Senor Smoke
Broken Social Scene - BSS
Dengue Fever - Escape from Dragon House
Laura Cantrell - Humming By the Flowered Vine
3-6 Mafia - The Most Known Unknown
Robyn - Robyn
Pitbull - Money Is Still a Major Issue

And likely another thirty for every category that just isn't coming to mind right now.

What the shit

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. System of a Down - Mezmerize - Sony/Columbia (25)
2. My Morning Jacket - Z - RCA/ATO (15)
3. Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine - Sony/Epic (15)
4. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - Atlantic (10)
5. Ying Yang Twins - USA: United State of Atlanta - TVT (10)
6. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Sub Pop (5)
7. Beck - Guero - Interscope (5)
8. Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings - Naturally - Daptone (5)
9. Mastodon - Leviathan - Relapse (5)
10. System of a Down - Hypnotize - Sony/Columbia (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kanye West f/ Cam'Ron and Consequence - "Gone" - Roc-a-fella
2. Kanye West f/Jamie Foxx - "Gold Digger" - Roc-a-fella
3. Kanye West f/ Paul Wall - "Drive Slow" - Roc-a-fella
4. Kanye West f/ Adam Levine - "Heard 'Em Say" - Roc-a-fella
5. Kanye West - "Hey Mama" - Roc-a-fella
6. Kanye West f/ Jay-Z - "Diamonds From Sierra Leone" - Roc-a-fella
7. Kanye West f/ Nas - "We Major" - Roc-a-fella
8. Kanye West - "Roses" - Roc-a-fella
9. Common f/ Kanye West & the Last Poets - "The Corner" - Roc-a-fella
10. R. Kelly - "Trapped in the Closet Pts. 1-12" - Jive

20 1. Aimee Mann, The Forgotten Arm (SuperEgo)
20 2. Bocephus King, All Children Believe in Heaven (Tonic)
13 3. Jason Mraz, Mr. A-Z (Atlantic)
10 4. Alison Moyet, Voice (Sanctuary)
10 5. Roger Joseph Manning Jr., Solid State Warrior (Weed/self-release)
7 6. The Clientele, Strange Geometry (Merge)
5 7. Franz Ferdinand, You Could Have It So Much Better (Sony)
5 8. Robbie Williams, Intensive Care (EMI)
5 9. Al Green, Everything's OK (Blue Note)
5 10. Tryst, Hotel Two-Way (MH)

Singles:

1. Amerie, "1 Thing" (Sony)
2. Doves, "Black & White Town" (Capitol)
3. Jason Mraz, "Life Is Wonderful" (Atlantic)
4. Andy Bell, "Crazy" (Sanctuary)
5. Gorillaz f/ De La Soul, "Feel Good Inc." (Virgin)
6. Futureheads, "Hounds of Love" (Sire)
7. Maroon 5, "Sunday Morning" (Octone/J)
8. Churchills, "I'm a Sucker for a Girl in Uniform" (Near)
9. Missy Elliott f/ Ciara and Fat Man Scoop, "Lose Control" (Atlantic)
10. KT Tunstall, "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree" (Relentless/Virgin)

Honorable mentions on singles: Roger Joseph Manning Jr., "What You Don't Know About the Girl"; Matisyahu, "King Without a Crown"; Aimee Mann, "She Really Wants You" and "Goodbye Caroline"; Rob Thomas, "Lonely No More"; Bocephus King, "Wreck of the Century"; Ross Copperman, "Ordinary"; White Stripes, "Blue Orchid"; Rihanna, "Pon De Replay."

Wasn't Leviathan 2004? That's how I remember it, and Amazon confirms a release date of 8/31/34,

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Various Artists - Target Presents Aim High Volume 2 - Aim High Records
(20)
2. Kate Bush - Aerial - EMI (20)
3. Various Artists - Body Language Vol. 1 Mixed By M.A.N.D.Y. - Get
Physical (15)
4. Isolee - Wearemonster - Playhouse (10)
5. T.O.K. - Unknown Language - VP Records (10)
6. Rachel Stevens - Come and Get It - 19 Records/Polydor (5)
7. Various Artists - Rebel Futurism Session Two Mixed By Damian Lazarus -
Crosstown Rebels (5)
8. Brooke Valentine - Chain Letter - Virgin (5)
9. Various Artists - DFA Records Holiday Mix 2005 - DFA Records/EMI (5)
10. Pitbull - Money Is Still A Major Issue - TVT Records (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. The Killers - Mr. Brightside (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duke Mix) -
Universal
2. Katy Pearl - Mr. DJ - Paperchase
3. Gwen Stefani - Cool - Interscope Records
4. Booka Shade - Mandarine Girl - Get Physical
5. Three 6 Mafia - Stay Fly - Columbia Records
6. Ludacris - Pimpin' All Over The World - Def Jam
7. Girls Aloud - Biology - Polydor
8. The MFA - The Difference It Makes (Superpitcher Mix) - Kompakt
9. Robyn - Be Mine - Konchiwa Records
10. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA Records

The following stuff could easily have been substituted into the two lists:

albums: Matias Aguayo - Are You Really Lost?; Girls Aloud - Chemistry; Freeform Five - Misch Masch; Dominik Eulberg - Kreucht & Fleucht; Superpitcher - Today; Roison Murphy - Ruby Blue; M.I.A. - Arular

songs: Imogen Heap - Hide & Seek; Royksopp - 49 Percent; Le Dust Sucker - Mean Boy (Dominik Eulberg Mix); Freeform Five - No More Conversations (Richard X Mix); Fischerspooner - Just Let Go (Thin White Duke Mix); Bobby Valentino - Give Me A Chance; Royksopp - What Else Is There? (Trentemoller Mix); Daddy Yankee - Tu Principe; Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl; The Veronicas - 4 Eva; Rihanna - Pon De Replay & If It's Lovin'; DJ T vs Freestyle Man - Beat The Streets; JME - Serious; Amerie - 1 Thing; Sugababes - Push The Button; Snoop Dogg - Signs; Roll Deep - When I'm 'Ere; Mariah Carey - We Belong Together; Missy Elliot - Lose Control (Jacques Lu Cont Mix); Girls Aloud - Long Hot Summer; Rachel Stevens - Negotiate With Love; Ashanti - Only You (Reggaeton Mix); Juan Maclean - Tito's Way (Reverso 68 Mix); Pitbull - Toma.

The albums I really wish I'd heard before voting: Sugababes, Madonna, Depeche Mode, Animal Collective, Three 6 Mafia, the new Black Strobe mix; the new DJ Naughty mix, the new Ewan Pearson mix, Ellen Allien.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Electrelane - Axes - Too Pure (20)
2. Fantomas - Suspended Animation - Ipecac (17)
3. High on Fire - Blessed Black Wings - Relapse (13)
4. Various Artists - Total 6 - Kompakt (10)
5. David Banner - Certified - SRC/Universal (10)
6. Konono No. 1 - Congotronics - Crammed Discs (9)
7. Mu - Out of Breach (Manchester's Revenge) - Output (6)
8. Jackson & His Computer Band - Smash - Warp (5)
9. Opeth - Ghost Reveries - Roadrunner (5)
10. Antony & the Johnsons - I Am a Bird Now - Secretly Canadian (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone
2. Kanye West - Gold Digger
3. Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl
4. Blood on the Wall - Keep Your Eyes
5. Killers - Mr. Brightside
6. Amerie - One Thing
7. Gorillaz - Dare
8. Antony and the Johnsons - Hope There's Someone
9. David Banner - Play
10. Spoon - Sister Jack

1. Mariah Carey - The Emancipation of Mimi - Island (20)
2. Gang Gang Dance - Social Registry - Social Registry (19)
3. Animal Collective - Feels - Fat Cat (13)
4. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-a-Fella (9)
5. The Game - The Documentary - Aftermath (9)
6. A Frames - Black Forest - Sub Pop (7)
7. Dr. Dog - Easy Beat - Future Farmer (7)
8. Damien Marley - Welcome to Jamrock - Universal (6)
9. Lil Kim - The Naked Truth - Atlantic (5)
10. Mannie Fresh - The Mind of Mannie Fresh - Cash Money (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Mary J Blige - MJB Da MVP - Geffen
2. Tori Alamaze - Don't Cha - Universal
3. The Game - Hate It or Love It - Aftermath
4. Three Six Mafia - Stay Fly - Sony
5. Mike Jones - Still Tippin' - Asylum
6. Ciara - Oh - La Face
7. Kanye West - Gold Digger - Roc-a-Fella
8. Mariah Carey - We Belong Together - Island
9. Amerie - 1 Thing - Sony
10. Jennifer Lopez - Get Right - Sony

Dear Barry Bruner:

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Sigur Ros - Takk... - Geffen (17)
2. M83 - Before the Dawn Heals Us - Gooom/Mute (16)
3. Depeche Mode - Playing the Angel - Mute (14)
4. Animal Collective - Feels - Fat Cat (13)
5. Rhythm and Sound - See Mi Yah - Burial Mix (10)
6. Low - The Great Destroyer - Sub Pop (9)
7. Jesu - Jesu - Hydra Head (6)
8. Broadcast - Tender Buttons - Warp (5)
9. Silver Mt Zion Memorial Orchestra&Tra-La-La Band - Horses In the Sky -
Constellation (5)
10. Ellen Allien - Thrills - Bpitch Control (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. t.A.T.u. - All About Us - Interscope
2. Polmo Polpo - Kiss Me Again and Again - Intr_version
3. MFA - The Difference It Makes - Kompakt Pop
4. Madonna - Hung Up - Warner
5. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
6. Killers - All These Things That I've Done - Island
7. M83 - Don't Save Us From the Flames - Gooom/Mute
8. New Order - Krafty - London
9. Ciara - Oh - LaFace
10. Of Montreal - So Begins Our Abalee - Polyvinyl

Dear Maura Johnston:

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Celebration - Celebration - 4AD (21)
2. Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine - Clean Slate/Epic (14)
3. Wilderness - Wilderness - Jagjaguwar (12)
4. Mary Timony - Ex Hex - Lookout! (10)
5. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Sub Pop (10)
6. Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (10)
7. Bettye LaVette - I've Got My Own Hell to Raise - Anti- (8)
8. Franz Ferdinand - You Could Have It So Much Better - Sony (5)
9. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem - Capitol (5)
10. Broadcast - Haha Sound - Warp (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. My Chemical Romance - Helena - Reprise
2. Amerie - 1 Thing - Sony
3. Deerhoof - Spiral Golden Town - Menlo Park
4. R. Kelly - Sex in the Kitchen (Remix) - Jive
5. !!! - Take Ecstasy With Me - Touch and Go
6. Spinto Band - Oh Mandy - Bar/None
7. National - Abel - Beggars
8. Lady Sovereign - 9 to 5 - Universal
9. Mariah Carey - Shake it Off - Island
10. Ciara feat. Ludacris - Oh - La Face

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Mariah Carey - The Emancipation of Mimi - Island (25)
2. Ladytron - The Witching Hour - Emperor Norton (15)
3. The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (15)
4. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem - Capitol (10)
5. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa (10)
6. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-a-fella (5)
7. A-Frames - Black Forest - Sub Pop (5)
8. Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine (Jon Brion Version) - NO LABEL (BECAUSE I AM INDIE MOTHERFUCKER) (5)
9. Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock & Roll - Fierce Panda (5)
10. The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema - Matador (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - BMG
2. Amerie - 1 Thing - Sony / Columbia
3. Mariah Carey - We Belong Together - Island
4. Game - Hate It or Love It - Universal
5. New Pornographers - Use It - Matador
6. Robyn - Konichiwa Bitches - Konichiwa (BECAUSE I AM INDIE MOTHERFUCKER)
7. Futureheads - Hounds of Love - WEA International
8. Purple Ribbon All-Stars - Kryptonite - Virgin
9. Interpol - Evil - Matador
10. New Order - Krafty - Warner Bros. / WEA

Mr. Weingarten: Maybe I just haven't spent enough time with Hypnotize, or maybe I just like the more light-hearted side of SOAD better, but yeah, pretty secure in that choice.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. amadou & mariam - Dimanche A Bamako - nonesuch (11)
2. sufjan stevens - illinois - asthmatic kitty (11)
3. Various Artists - minna daisuki katamari (we love katamari original
soundtrack) - namco (15)
4. 13 & god - s/t - anticon (11)
5. Various Artists - big boi presents got purp? vol. 2 - purple ribbon (11)
6. letta mbulu - sings/free soul (reissue) - stateside (9)
7. lula cortez e ze ramalho - paebiru (reissue) - shadoks (8)
8. Various Artists - nao wave - man (8)
9. maximum joy - unlimited 1979-83 - crippled dick (8)
10. geraldo pino & the heartbeats - heavy heavy heavy (reissue) -
retroafric (8)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. amerie - one thing - sony
2. anthony and the johnsons - hope there's someone - secretly canadian
3. 3 6 mafia - stay fly - sony
4. missy elliott - lose control - goldmind
5. trick daddy & cee-lo & lil' kim - sugar (2004, but more impact in 2005) - atlantic
6. the ark - this piece of poetry is meant to do harm - virgin
7. pizazz! - pizazz! (gonna give it to ya!) - no label
8. snoop dogg & justin timberlake & charlie wilson - signs - universal
9. jamie lidell - multiply - warp
10. fannypack - nu nu (yeah yeah) - tommy boy

Email Chuck right away with your real list, explaining the screwup.

I am wearing my Indie-Rock Boy hat this year:

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem - Capitol (16)
2. The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema - Matador (14)
3. Various Artists - One Kiss Can Lead To Another: Girl Group Sounds Lost
and Found - Rhino (12)
4. The Fall - The Complete Peel Sessions - Sanctuary (12)
5. Sufjan Stevens - Come On Feel the Illinoise - Asthmatic Kitty (11)
6. Judee Sill - Dreams Come True - Water (9)
7. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Sub Pop (8)
8. Various Artists - You Ain't Talkin' to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots
of Country Music - Sony Legacy (7)
9. The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (6)
10. Princess Superstar - My Machine - !K7 (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Supersystem - Everybody Sings - Touch and Go
2. The Legendary K.O. - George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People - no
label
3. The White Stripes - Walking With a Ghost - V2
4. The Juan Maclean - Tito's Way - Astralwerks
5. Franz Ferdinand - Do You Want To - Epic
6. Ying Yang Twins - Wait (The Whisper Song) - TVT
7. Glass Candy and the Shattered Theatre - Life After Sundown - Troubleman
8. Teenage Fanclub - It's All In My Mind - Merge
9. Melt-Banana - Sweeper - Sounds of Subterrania
10. Fireball - Arsonist - High Roller Society

Douglas, when did that Glass Candy single come out? I have the Iko Iko EP, which I totally forgot to put in my singles.

Also, I left out part of the title of the Girl Group comp, but enough people have voted for it, they'll figure it out.

1. Annie - Anniemal - Warner Bros (10)
2. Electrelane - Axes - Too Pure (10)
3. Heartless Bastards - Stairs and Elevators - Fat Possum (10)
4. M.I.A. - Arular - Interscope (10)
5. Original Soundtrack - Broken Flowers - Decca (10)
6. Out Hud - Let Us Never Speak Of It Again - Kranky (10)
7. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa (10)
8. Various Artists - Children of Nuggets: Original Artyfacts From The
Second Psychedelic Era 1976-1995 - Rhino (10)
9. Various Artists - Girl Group Sounds: Lost & Found - Rhino (10)
10. Various Artists - Nao Wave: Brazilian Post-Punk - Man Recordings (10)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
2. Missy Elliott - Lose Control - Atlantic
3. Franz Ferdinand - Do You Want To - Epic
4. Gorillaz - Dare - Virgin
5. Madonna - Hung Up - Warner Bros
6. Pipettes - Dirty Mind - Memphis Industries
7. Rihana - Pon De Replay - Def Jam
8. Sleater Kinney - Jumpers - Sub Pop
9. Spinto Band - Oh Mandy - Stolen Transmission
10. Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl - Interscope

Singles
1. Molotov - Amateur - Universal Latino
2. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
3. Amerie - 1 Thing - Sony Urban
4. Javier Garcia - La Rumba - Surco
5. Grupo Montez de Durango - Quiero Saber de Ti - Disa
6. Gary Allan - Best I Ever Had - MCA Nashville
7. Shakira f/ Alejandro Sanz - La Tortura - Sony
8. Trickbaby - Sabse Bada Rupaiyya - Sa Re Ga Ma
9. Hollaback Girl - Gwen Stefani - Interscope
10. Crooked Stilo - Retraselo - Univision

Bummed that I left out
Intocable, Stevie
Wonder, Cuizinier

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. M.I.A. - Arular - XL (15)
2. Ponys - Celebration Castle - In the Red (15)
3. Various Artists - The Rough Guide to Boogaloo - World Music Network (12)
4. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-A-Fella (10)
5. Various Artists - Love's a Real Thing: The Funky Fuzzy Sounds of West Africa - Luaka Bop (10)
6. Thelonious Monk Quartet With John Coltrane - At Carnegie Hall - Blue Note/Thelonious (10)
7. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem - Capitol/DFA (10)
8. Annie - Anniemal - Big Beat/679 (8)
9. Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (5)
10. Nortec Collective - Tijuana Sessions Vol. 3 - Nacional (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Amerie - 1 Thing - Columbia
2. Jennifer Lopez - Get Right - Columbia
3. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
4. Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl - Interscope
5. Trick Daddy featuring Ludacris, Lil Kim & Cee-Lo - Sugar (Gimme Some) - Atlantic
6. Brendan Benson - Spit It Out - V2
7. Raveonettes - Love in a Trashcan - Columbia/The Orchard
8. Damian "Junior Gong" Marley - Welcome to Jamrock - Universal
9. Patty Loveless - Keep Your Distance - Epic
10. Tori Alamaze - Don't Cha - unreleased

1. Isolee - Wearemonster - Playhouse (20)
2. Animal Collective - Feels - Fat Cat (10)
3. DJ Target - Aim High Vol 2 - Aim High (10)
4. DJ Koze - Kosi Comes Around - Kompakt (10)
5. Konono No. 1 - Congotronics - Crammed Discs (10)
6. Various Artists - Body Language 1 mixed by M.A.N.D.Y. - Get Physical
(10)
7. Jamie Lidell - Multiply - Warp (10)
8. Justus Kohncke - Doppelleben - Kompakt (10)
9. Boards of Canada - The Campfire Headphase - Warp (5)
10. Various Artists - Choubi Choubi! Folk and Pop Songs from Iraq - Sublime
Frequencies (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Three 6 Mafia - Stay Fly - Columbia
2. Amerie - 1 Thing - Sony
3. Isolee - My Hi-Matic - Playhouse
4. Lindstrom - I Feel Space - Feedelity
5. Gorillaz - Dare (DFA remix) - Parlaphone(?)
6. M83 - Don't Save Us From the Flames (Superpitcher remix) - Mute
7. Tori Alamaze - Don't Cha - Universal
8. Feist - Inside and Out (Ewan Pearson and Al Usher Elektronische Dub) -
Polydor France
9. Missy Elliott - Lose Control (Jacques Lu Cont mix) - Atlantic/WEA
10. Mathew Jonson - Return of the Zombie Bikers - Wagon Repair

Yeah, this one's fascinating, track three especially ("unknown artist: 'Oh Mother, The Handsome Man Tortures Me'"), which sounds like thrash electronica played by regular acoustic percussionists.

1. M.I.A. - Arular - XL (174) (14)
2. Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (89) (8)
3. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-A-Fella (88) (7)
4. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa (82) (8)
5. Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (79) (5)
6. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - Asthmatic Kitty (62) (5)
7. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Sub Pop (54) (7)
8. Mariah Carey - The Emancipation of Mimi - Island (53) (3)
9. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem - Capitol (50) (5)
10. Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine - Epic/Clean Slate (49) (4)
11. Animal Collective - Feels - Fat Cat (46) (5)
12. Kate Bush - Aerial - Sony (45) (4)
12. Isolee - Wearemonster - Playhouse (45) (4)
14. New Pornographers - Twin Cinema - Matador (44) (4)
15. DJ Target - Aim High, Vol. 2 - Aim High (43) (3)

this was great, but i didn't play it enough to make it a favorite. that's not the album's fault, it's my fault for not organizing my cd-r collection well enough to know where anything is.

Kelly Clarkson "Since U Been Gone" 19
Amerie "1 Thing" 14
Three 6 Mafia "Stay Fly" 12
Madonna "Hung Up" 8
Killers "Mr. Brightside" 7
Gwen Stefani "Hollaback Girl" 7
Missy Elliott "Lose Control" 6
Mike Jones "Still Tippin'" 5
Robyn "Be Mine!" 5
Brad Paisley "Alcohol" 5

(Any of these I'd have been glad to vote for myself, except "Alcohol" and "Brightside" (and I haven't heard the Stuart Price remix that accounted for three of its votes).)

To be fair I'm not even exactly sure myself why I hate this song so much - maybe if i'd heard it without seeing the attendant video clip I wouldn't hate it so much, but, there it is.

3 perhaps biased explanations:

1) As with "She Wants To Move", that deep-swelling throb seems like such an open attempt to make people who don't dance think "woah great groove", in the vein of Dead Prez's "Hip Hop" (or the secret track on Arular) I guess except that "Hip Hop" is great whereas this just sounds ennervated (although, yes, deep swelling and throbbing). The people who made "Nothin" and "Nigga Please" and "Pass The Courvoisier Pt 2" should know that it's possible to be far more foreboding than this while not sounding so self-conscious about it.

2) No objections to Gwen here (although she's made to look like a bit of an idiot in the video clip, which is a shame because all her own video clips are awesome), except that it's such a perfunctory hook, there's no zing in the "can I have it like that"/"you got it like that" exchange (compare contrast with the awe-inspiring call and response on "Rock Your Body").

3) More fundamentally and unfairly, I think I'm automatically ill-disposed towards any attempt by Pharrell to have people take him seriously as an artist, and while having animated versions of himself and talking about "Skateboard P" and the like may not be everyone's idea of "seriousness", but with Pharrell it feels serious, very deliberately "this is (the hip hop model of) me", whereas I liked the way the (first version of the) first N.E.R.D. album negotiated quite eloquently that space between "Neptunes genericism" (no bad thing at the time) and a more personal, distinctive take, in a way that felt natural and almost unconscious, like it didn't occur to them that they weren't the same as everything else - same goes for "Frontin".

On the other hand, I agree with you entirely about "Niggaz Get To Poppin" (esp. the Pitbull version), even though Spizzazz loathe it, and I usually take Spizzazz hate v. seriously.

I'm also kinda annoyed that I wasn't able to squeeze in a vote for Bobby Valentino, esp. "Gimmie A Chance".

I actually lost my copy about 2 months ago and haven't had the chance to replace it (I refuse to buy replacement copies of anything full price) so I'm going more on memory than anything else.

Mariah Carey "We Belong Together" 5

It's uncommon, but it's happened...

2002: Missy Elliott's "Work It" (212) vs. Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (201)
1992: Arrested Development's "Tennessee" (100) vs. their 3 Years, 5 Months and 2 Days in the Life of... (97)
1985: Artists United Against Apartheid's "Sun City" (101) vs. Talking Heads, Little Creatures (99)
1982: Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five's "The Message" (156) AND Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing" (104) vs. Elvis Costello's Imperial Bedroom (87)

Tim, your point three's interesting in that when I first heard it, "Can I Have It Like That?" seemed almost as obvious and manipulative as "Wait (The Whisper Song)." But also, trying to get people to take you seriously as an artist isn't necessarily bad for one's music: was bad for Beatles and Madonna, good for Dylan and Ashlee (so far), for Marion Raven haven't heard enough clips to tell yet.

Ciara "Oh" 6

Kelly Clarkson "Since U Been Gone" 19
Amerie "1 Thing" 14
Three 6 Mafia "Stay Fly" 12
Madonna "Hung Up" 8
Killers "Mr. Brightside" 7
Gwen Stefani "Hollaback Girl" 7
Ciara "Oh" 6
Missy Elliott "Lose Control" 6
Tori Alamaze "Don't Cha" 5
Kanye West "Gold Digger" 5
Mariah Carey "We Belong Together" 5
Mike Jones "Still Tippin'" 5
Robyn "Be Mine!" 5
Brad Paisley "Alcohol" 5

xpost dammit!

Why do people vote for "Laffy Taffy," "Sittin' Sideways," and "Best I Ever Had" when they're all, like, the 6th or 7th best tracks on the albums they're on, at best? (Um...because they're actual SINGLES maybe? Just a guess.) (Not that I voted for all actual singles myself.)

ok yeah i remember the goats got hella love on our ballots thread last year and like robyn this year too this is probably a very ilxish blip rather than representative.

But yeah, that is pretty weird.

nah, "since u been gone" will do fine, don't worry! (and no "closet" votes will be thrown out.) (and *thick as a brick* wasn't a single either.)

singles not weighted; never were.

In other words, you'd end up with basically the same list if the singles ballots were composed just like the albums ballots. I do agree that a weighted singles ballot would be useful because more detail = a more precise reflection of one's personal preferences. But once each individual preference is averaged into 1000 others (i.e. the weight of relatively few 20's cancelled out by a whole lotta 5's), the end result is essentially the same. Welcome to mass polling.

ranking albums according to # of votes doesn't result in a list that's fairly similar to ranking them according to # of points.

I meant: you get a similar list when ranking albums according to # of votes as you do when ranking them according to # of points.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:
1. Various Artists - Guitars of the Golden Triangle - Sublime Frequencies
(20)
2. Antony & the Johnsons - I Am a Bird Now - Merge (20)
3. Six Organs of Admittance - School of the Flower - Drag City (20)
4. Isolee - Wearemonster - Playhouse (10)
5. Swan Silvertones - 1946-1951 - Acrobat (5)
6. Richard Thompson - "Grizzly Man" soundtrack - Cooking Vinyl (5)
7. The Bats - At the National Grid - Magic Marker (5)
8. Triptych Myth - The Beautiful - Aum (5)
9. Cass McCombs - PREfection - Monitor/ 4AD (5)
10. Various Artists - Never the Same: Leave-Taking from the British Folk
Revival - Honest Jon's (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:
1. Jamie Lidell - "Multiply' - Warp
2. Lady Sovereign - "Random" - Chocolate Industries
3. R. Kelly - "Trapped in the Closet" (all parts) - Jive
4. Gary Higgins - "Thicker Than a Smokey" - Drag City
5. Animal Collective - "Grass" - Fat Cat
6. White Stripes - "My Doorbell" - V2
7. Missy Elliott - "On & On" - Atlantic
8. M.I.A. - "Bucky Done Gun - XL
9. Amerie - "1 Thing" - Sony
10. Edan - "Rock & Roll" - Lewis Ent

Also to think nobody checked their watch/visited the bathroom during the R Kelly DVD is even funnier (and anticipation 12 times = 12 singles, not one. Math doesn't scare *me*)

EPs still make the singles chart in England last time I checked by the way. But that doesn't make them singles. (And believe me, I have nothing against EPs. I fucking *love* EPs.)

which one does th e midget shit himself in? yeah, that's not the one i want to vote for...

with a few exceptions (*wee small hours*, *village green*) i prefer my concept records either half-baked (*sell out*, *aeroplane*, *sf sorrow*, *zen arcade*) or kind of insane (*trapped*, a hundred psych-folk albums i can't think the names of right now, *2112*).

also, i have an isolee song on my blog this week, if you want to hear something from that record.

my only problem is that ilx is such a crack binge type thing -- and it's really hard for me to do anything in moderation, you know?

the few times i've really spent time on here it's been like 5AM on a friday and the last thing i remember is logging on here 42 hours earlier...

I think I misplaced my shoebox of Coltrane 7"s

Also: "Trapped in the Closet" is the most overrated phenomenon of the year.

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Living Things - Ahead of the Lions - Jive (24)
2. 50 Foot Wave - Golden Ocean - Reincarnate (23)
3. Opeth - Ghost Reveries - Roadrunner (9)
4. Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (8)
5. Rolling Stones - A Bigger Bang - Virgin (7)
6. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Sub Pop (6)
7. Mean Reds - Together At Last And This Is Our Wedding - Record Collection
(6)
8. Pelican - The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon The Thaw - Hydra Head (6)
9. Gogol Bordello - Gypsy Punks - Side One Dummy (6)
10. Supagroup - Rules - Foodchain (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
2. Madonna - Hung Up - Warner Bros
3. Fuck It Up - Towers of London - TVT
4. Golddigger - Kanye West - Roc-a-Fella
5. Holiday - Green Day - Reprise
6. Pon De Replay - Rihanna - Def Jam
7. Entertain - Sleater-Kinney - Sub Pop
8. Club Foot - Kasabian - RCA
9. Helena - My Chemical Romance - Reprise
10. Do You Want To - Franz Ferdinand - Sony

i kinda agree, but i'm not being real vociferous about that, cuz i like the concept and hating on r. kelly is like hating on santa claus.

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And by some strange coincidence, the last time I watched the *Trapped in the Closet* DVD all the way through was on Thanksgiving night! (But did all 12 chapters really get radio play?? Where and when?)

trapped in the chimney, pts. 1-12

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Ry Cooder - Chavez Ravine - Nonesuch (10)
2. Bettye LaVette - I've Got My Own Hell To Raise - Anti- (10)
3. Marty Stuart & His Fabulous Superlatives - Souls' Chapel - Superlatone
(10)
4. Beck - Guero - Interscope (10)
5. The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - French Kiss (10)
6. The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (10)
7. Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings - Naturally - Dap-Tone (10)
8. Emiliana Torrini - Fisherman's Woman - Rough Trade (10)
9. My Morning Jacket - Z - ATO (10)
10. Lizz Wright - Dreaming Wide Awake - Verve (10)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Miranda Lambert - Kerosene - Sony
2. Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings - This Land Is Your Land - Dap-Tone
3. The Legendary K.O. - George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People -
k-otix.com
4. Gary Allan - Best I Ever Had - MCA Nashville
5. The Killers - Mr. Brightside - Island
6. Beck - Girl - Interscope
7. The Mountain Goats - Dance Music - 4AD
8. Deana Carter - The Girl You Left Me For - Vanguard
9. Kanye West - Hey Mama - Roc-A-Fella
10. Kelly Clarkson - Since You Been Gone - MCA

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. I Self Devine - Self Destruction - Rhymesayers (30)
2. Atmosphere - You Can't Imagine How Much Fun We're Having - Rhymesayers
(30)
3. United State of Electronica - United State of Electronica - Sonic Boom
(5)
4. Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (5)
5. Madonna - Confessions on a Dance Floor - Warner Bros. (5)
6. Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (5)
7. White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan - V2 (5)
8. Low - The Great Destroyer - Sub Pop (5)
9. Mint Condition - Livin' the Luxury Brown - Image/Cagedbird (5)
10. Various Artists - The Rough Guide to Boogaloo - World Music Network (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Legendary K.O. - George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People - mp3
2. Atmosphere - Pour Me Another - Rhymesayers
3. Low - Monkey - Sub Pop
4. I Self Devine - Ice Cold - Rhymesayers
5. White Stripes - Blue Orchid - V2
6. Kill the Vultures - The Vultures - JIB
7. Ying Yang Twins - Wait (The Whisper Song) - TVT
8. Mint Condition - Luxury Brown - Image/Cagedbird
9. Trama - Praise God - K.E.P.
10. Public Enemy - Hell No We Ain't All Right! - Slam Jamz

Meant to vote for (and forgot): Bob Mould - "(Shine Your) Light Love Hope" - Yep Roc

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane-at Carnegie Hall-Blue Note (24)
2. Cam'Ron - Purple Haze - Def Jam (12)
3. Mannie Fresh - The Mind of Mannie Fresh - Cash Money (11)
4. Animal Collective - Feels - Fat Cat (10)
5. The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute - GSL/Strummer (9)
6. Isolee - Wearemonster - Playhouse (8)
7. Tod Dockstader - Ariel - Sub Rosa (8)
8. Ennio Morricone - Crime & Disonance - Ipecac (8)
9. Clipse - We Got it for Cheap, Vol. 2 - Mixunit.com (5)
10. M.I.A. - Arular - Interscope (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. The Game feat. 50 Cent - Hate It or Love It - Aftermath
2. Amerie - 1 Thing - Columbia
3. Three 6 Mafia ft. Young Buck, Eightball & MJG - Stay Fly - Columbia
4. Mike Jones ft. Slim Thug and Paul Wall - Still Tippin' - Swishahouse
5. Trick Daddy ft. Ludacris - Sugar - Atlantic
6. Tori Alamaze - Don't Cha - Universal
7. Fannypack - 718 - Tommy Boy
8. Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl - Interscope
9. T.I. - Bring 'Em Out - Atlantic
10. Ying Yang Twins - Wait (The Whisper Song) - TVT

Psychic friends can disagree! I think Chavez Ravine is gorgeous and funny and sad and you can dance to it. Plus, it's as punchy a protest as GBDCABP. Eminent domain and ageism to thread.

It is the dearth of Young Jeezy love, isn't it?

actually, PLEASE just take that as a rhetorical question and leave it alone. or there'll be tears on the blogger dashboard.

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1. Kanye West, Late Registration

2. The Rolling Stones, A Bigger Bang

3. White Stripes, Get Behind Me Satan

4. Fiona Apple, Extraordinary Machine

5. Bruce Springsteen, Devils and Dust

6. My Morning Jacket, Z

7. Beck, Guero

8. Bright Eyes, I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning

9. Sufjan Stevens, Illinois

10. 50 Cent, The Massacre

(Yes yes I know it has come up several times in the voting on this thread and I voted for the Killer7 soundtrack so judge not etc.)

I still laugh out loud every time he gets to George Bush, "he walkin' in like 'haaay' "

But I didn't vote for it, mostly because of the "freshness" blurt over the first refrain, the sloppy cut after the first verse, and K.O.'s frequent lapsing into mimickry of Kanye's delivery style. Couldn't bring myself to allow my politics to trump my aesthetics like that.

yeah, me too (well not out loud but you know). I think the song's apparent lightness is one of the things that adds to its overall power, though--brings you in to hear what they have to say, which isn't pretty.

1. M.I.A. - Arular - XL (179) (15)
2. Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (104) (10)
3. Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (102) (8)
4. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-A-Fella (88) (7)
5. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa (82) (8)
6. Isolee - Wearemonster - Playhouse (63) (6)
7. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - Asthmatic Kitty (62) (5)
8. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods - Sub Pop (60) (8)
9. Animal Collective - Feels - Fat Cat (56) (6)
10. Mariah Carey - The Emancipation of Mimi - Island (53) (3)
11. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem - Capitol (50) (5)
12. Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine - Epic/Clean Slate (49) (4)
12. Mannie Fresh - The Mind of Mannie Fresh - Cash Money (49) (4)
13. Kate Bush - Aerial - Sony (45) (4)
15. New Pornographers - Twin Cinema - Matador (44) (4)

-- stirmonster (jd_*!!!!...), December 30th, 2005. (later)

just so ppl know, this isn't actually the artist formerly known as banana nutrament

it's pretty funny though

I'll just crawl back into my cave, then

i'm that blogger but don't have a persona here on ILM. i try to read the board from time to time, but i don't need another addiction.

you made me roffle big time on a Rappin Duke thread once. holler at me if you want to guest post.

people please bid

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Metric - Live It Out - Last Gang (23)
2. New Order - Waiting For the Siren's Call - Warner Bros (15)
3. Beck - Guero - Interscope (12)
4. M.I.A. - Arular - XL (10)
5. Marianne Faithfull - Before the Poison - Anti- (9)
6. The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (8)
7. Richard Thompson - Front Parlour Ballads - Cooking Vinyl (7)
8. Controller.Controller - X-Amounts - Paper Bag (6)
9. Dwight Yoakam - Blame the Vain - New West (5)
10. Neil Young - Prairie Wind - Reprise (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Annie - Chewing Gum - Big Beat
2. The Mountain Goats - This Year - 4AD
3. Hot Hot Heat - Pickin' It Up - Sub Pop
4. M.I.A. - Bucky Done Gun - XL
5. Puffy Ami Yumi - Hi Hi - Epic
6. K'Naan - What's Hardcore - Sony BMG
7. Eliza Gilkyson - Man of God - Red House
8. New Order - Krafty - Warner Bros.
9. Marianne Faithfull - Desperanto - Anti-
10. Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc. - Parlophone

voting is over, isn't it? what are people bidding on?

shut up dude

testerona would
have been easily in my
list for sure! *REGRET*

1. Anubian Lights - Phantascope - Rhythmbank Entertainment (10)
2. Wedding Present - Take Fountain - Manifesto (10)
3. Marianne Faithfull - Before the Poison - Anti- (10)
4. Teenage Fanclub - Man-Made - Merge (10)
5. Orange Juice - The Glasgow School - Domino (10)
6. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem - Capitol (10)
7. A Frames - Black Forest - Sub Pop (10)
8. Raveonettes - Pretty in Black - Columbia (10)
9. Devendra Banhart - Cripple Crow - XL (10)
10. Various Artists - Children of Nuggets - Rhino (10)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

A Frames - Eva Braun - Sub Pop
Beck - Hell Yes - Geffen
Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
Cowboy Troy - I Play Chicken (With the Train) - Warner Bros
Crazy Frog - Axel F - Universal
Marianne Faithfull - Last Song - Anti-
LCD Soundsystem - Tribulations - Capitol
Madonna - Hung Up - Warner Bros
Raveonettes - Here Comes Mary - Columbia
Wedding Present - It's For You - Manifesto

I'm listening to this right now and it's achingly gorgeous and energetically ratty at the same time. If I'd been able to give it more than a cursory listen before the deadline it would have been a strong candidate. The title grabs your attention but is a bit misleading, since this is voice and song music at least as much as it's guitar music. The tracks were recorded in the '70s, but as far as the electric American influence, no one seems to have heard anything recorded later than 1967. No power chords and no sustain. A fellow named Saing Saing Maw, who's got a whole bunch of tracks, sings in a relaxed almost rockabilly style, somewhat reminiscent of Ricky Nelson, and like Nelson he has an intense band and a guitarist slinging ice pellets at us. He also - I'm serious - seems to have heard the Seeds' "Pushin' Too Hard," hence chords are played with a similar push. Other performers do tunes with an early '60s lilt. Not that my listing these influences gives much of an idea what the record sounds like. It's fundamentally Asian, with vocals that rise to a ringing high-pitch, and sad little descents. From a part of Myanmar [Burma] that's reputed to be lawless and to be inaccessible to outsiders.

Am going to try to get "outtakes" from that on the next YETI CD (#4); we'll see.

I love it when you hear music that you've always wanted to hear but had no idea existed -- Henry Flynt's country and western jams that pit drone-based fiddle and pedal steel into a country rock-ish framework were/ are like that for me.

This collection is to my ears the strongest yet from Sublime Frequencies. I adore everything about that label, and "punk rock ethnography" in general.

If I could vote for a music DVD for the year it would be the one Hisham Mayet shot in Niger and released on Sublime -- the other one that he shot amongst the matriarchal tribe the Tuareg is, well, sublime, as well.

"Check this box if A) You are a newspaper journalist who stumbled upon the music reviewing gig and held onto it because it's more fun than obituaries; B) You do not listen to more than fifty albums a year or what you're assigned to review, C) You are a hack; D) You're one of the nutbags who voted for R. Kelly's "Trapped in the Closet Pts. 1-12; or E) All of the above."

-- Michael J McGonigal (yetimik...), January 1st, 2006.

I'm with Matos here, I don't consider a reissue (or a greatest hits) part of the "music from a given year" no matter how it sells or what waves it makes, but I think the whole topic is really interesting and there are good things to be said on either side of the question

Me too. That's always been my rule in year-end listmaking, but it's a personal choice and not a judgement on what is "proper".

Um, *Golden Triangle* was obv. on my radar (I'm SOMEONE damn it!), and quite a few folks *I* know are deeply into the releases on Sublime Frequencies, though most are people who don't get their records for free.

I feel like every Sublime release deserves to exist even if I am not so into some of them (that new Korean one creeps me out but it's a fascinating document).

It seems to me there is a whole movement of what we might lazily term D.I.Y. ethnography coupled with some highly original and (to me) very necessary reissue/archival-based labels happening now.

These are people clearly influenced by Revenant, Yazoo, The Anthology, Secret Museum series, et al but they're at times making even more elaborate and personal connections, and/or unearthing some deep stuff: Dust to Digital, Mississippi Records, and Case Quarter come to mind first.

Sublime is itself a punk-ish take on Nonesuch Explorer; even the releases culled from cassette tapes are made by people who've spent quite a bit of time in that particular region. So I do feel that these reissues are part of a really interesting and radically postcolonial recontextualizization that can be seen as both troublesome and freeing, for obvious reasons.

Anyway, as to voting for them? I miss the reissue category on the ballot, a lot more than I miss being able to vote for EPs. But I feel that reissued music can have as profound an impact as new releases, though of course the instances of this actually happening are probably pretty rare and arcane.

When not listening for work, I listen to old school gospel and drone-based music a hell of a lot more than I listen to newer acts of any stripe. But I just vote for what I listen to the most in any given year rather than what I think I am supposed to be listening to and will impress the other cool kids the most, despite honestly being tempted in that direction.

Many of the bands topping folks' lists just sound themselves like half-baked reissues of older bands anyway (or at best tribute acts) to these ears -- which is to say I have officially become old.

For those who wonder/ care, the Swan Silvertones reissue is the first CD I know of to collect all of that amazing golden age gospel quartet's early 78-era material. And it blows my mind even though I like their VeeJay stuff from the '50s better.

And the *Leave Taking* comp. collects recordings on the awesome Leader label, this really cool folk indie from the '70s. The LP version of the reissue presented my first opportunity to own the amazing Nic Jones on vinyl since becoming obsessed with him a few years ago (!) while beyond that this collection has turned me on to a bunch of amazing Brit. Isles artists: Lal Waterson, Dorothy Elliott, Alistair Anderson, Dick Gaughan, Dave Burland, Aly Bain, The Boys of the Lough, Tony Rose. Almost all of them wonderful, and I'd never heard a one before.

Huzzah.

Now, I know that you arrived at the 30 year figure precisely because I said I voted for six albums (all totally obscure stuff) from the '70s amirite?

I do wonder what examples of this you had in mind, though.

I vote for what was released and “moved me” the most in a given year, whether it's a reissue or not. And if the reissue category were reinstated I'd gladly only vote for “new” stuff. OK now *I’m* bored with the subject.

xp Tim: The most obvious example would be *The Anthology* what with its spearheading the whole folk revival, for better and worse, and it being basically a very enthused bootleg comp. Plus I think it’s well understood that Lenny Kaye's *Nuggets* launched a hell of a lot of punk bands. To a lesser degree, the *Back from the Grave* and Nuggets Jr. (*Pebbles*, etc.) series from the '80s and '90s influenced a ton of garage acts.

Then on a lesser level, there are reissues from any given year that seem to influence people 'cause it just sounds so new and fresh and awesome -- Dreamies, Vashti Bunyan, Trad Gras, Fahey's first *American Primitive* antholo., the Fela reissues in the ‘80s, those Carter Family “Roses Bloom Again” reissues that were done so well and are out of print already, I could go on... These influenced a small group of people, but influenced them greatly, you dig?

I was actually wondering what some examples would be of reissues/archival collections that people praised merely because they were obscure or over-praised as genius when they really weren't.

langley school might not get played a lot, but it's a gem.

x-post: no I was not "bitching" about it

Xgau's explanation for killing it should have begun "Given that the Pazz & Jop workload is absolutely incredibly fucking insane and that..."

Without the workload, they'd still have reissues. I don't know this as a fact, but I can't imagine that the given reason for killing it was sufficient.

But I guess you could kinda say the same thing at this point re: singles.

since I'm as much or more guilty of this than anyone: Os Mutantes, who I raved about back in '99 and haven't listened to since. I'm sure those records are still good, but I cringe when I think of how gushing I was toward them.

I vote for what was released and “moved me” the most in a given year, whether it's a reissue or not. And if the reissue category were reinstated I'd gladly only vote for “new” stuff.

This is totally fair; I'm hardly mocking or sneering at people who vote for both in P&J. I just outlined the reasons I don't.

But there is much surprise and adventure one can get from music of the past.

"no one knew it existed before therefore it must be better than EVERYTHING ELSE"

Well, change this to "it's new and no one in my circle knows it exists, therefore it must be better than EVERYTHING ELSE" and you get pretty much the same thing. New or old, you always want to be the one to discover something or discover a new way of looking at it. Not a bad impulse. Probably better to trumpet Os Mutantes and then feel embarrassed than to fail to trumpet something that really deserves it.

i'm still waiting for this confession to make its way to an avalanches thread on ilm.

By the way, if I'd heard Guitars of the Golden Triangle a week earlier it'd have been on my ballot for sure (at the expense of either Annie or Franz).

my favorite album of the decade so far. so no, not in 100 years.

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my new year's resolution is to illegally download with a vengeance.( i just don't have the money to spend like i used to.)

matos, you will know what i'm talking about vis a vis that whole emp conference thing. i got an e-mail about that and i immediately thought about my alarming and ever-growing obsession with Michael Franks. i'm thinking of turning my interest into a book-length zine.

I am a total horse.

"With apologies to Mike Doskocil for unauthorized use of one of his more memorable lines, the following are CSTB’s in-house picks for the year’s finest popular recordings:

Sun Kil Moon - Tiny Cities Made Of Ashes (Calo Verde)
The Dirtbombs - If You Don’t Already, Have A Look (In The Red)
Spoon - “I Summon You” (Merge)
Bob Mould - “Paralyzed” (Yep Roc)
Sensational - Speaks For Itself (Quartermass)
Howard Hello - “More Of The Same” (Temporary Residence)
Boards Of Canada - “Dayvan Cowboy” (Warp)
Jason Forrest- Shamelessly Exciting (Sonig)
The Futureheads - “Man Ray” (Sire)
John Parish - ‘Once Upon A Little Time’ (Thrill Jockey)
Pissed Jeans - Shallow (Parts Unknown)
Tom Sharpling & Jon Wurster - Hippy Justice (Stereolaffs)
The Rebel - Kit (Hook Or Crook)

Please note that titles associated with any of CSTB’s business interests (with one exception) were ineligible. If you’d like to submit your own list via our comments section, please, feel free to do so. Unless you were planning on including the Hold Steady, in which case you can fuck off."

In a more intelligent universe we wouldn't have junkies and hoodrats and lots of mixed-up kids making mixed-up decisions so the Hold Steady would have to write all their songs about, I don't know, how tasty hamburgers are or something.

SINGLES:
1. Robyn -- "Be Mine!" (but only if it gets released somewhere where they speak English in 2006)
2. Young Jeezy -- "Trap Star"
3. Marion Raven -- "Break You" (the alb is being released in Denmark this month, so I can count this as 2006, since I didn't vote for it yet)
4. Marion Raven -- "The End of Me" (ditto)
5. Beyoncé -- "Check On It"
6. Amy Diamond -- "What's In It for Me?"
7. Veronicas -- "4Ever"
8. Morningwood -- "Nth Degree"

ALBUMS:
Electric Six -- Señor Smoke
Marion Raven -- Here I Am (this vote being contingent on my actually hearing the entire album and liking it)

everyone in mpls that saw them "back then" said they were like a force of nature live.

i only saw them after grave dancers and they were lame live.

i believe pazz n jop's street date is feb 1 (next week)...

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Jesu - Jesu - Hydra Head (18)
2. Manegarm - Vredens Tid - Displeased (14)
3. Pantheist - Amartia - Firedoom (12)
4. M.I.A - Arular - XL (11)
5. Louis XIV - The Best Little Secrets Are Kept - Atlantic (10)
6. DangerDoom - The Mouse And The Mask - Epitaph (9)
7. Early Man - Closing In - Matador (8)
8. Blueprint - 1988 - Rhymesayers (7)
9. Midnattsol - Where Twilight Dwells - Napalm (6)
10. Witchcraft - Firewood - Candlelight (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

You didn't submit any singles

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I changed my votes for a later deadline. I forgot The Epoxies so that was on the list, bumping the Witchcraft disc.

(Geeta, did you get my email?)