CracKKKer rapper deathmatch : Sage Francis + fans VS. El P, Cage, Def Jux allstars and token Black guy

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Who would win and why ?

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Elli$. That's a "token black guy." He didn't actually choose to be there at all. After all, you and I, we really know what black people are like, don't we? We know that other black guy in the background, he's a token, too. If black people don't like what you & I like, they're hardly black at all, are they?

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.iprintfromhome.com/i/CamuPants/600/camujeans.jpg

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

but there's an asian in the sage francis photo

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

also, there are multiple black doodz in the background of the weathermen pic

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

wait, that might be can ox

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

also, there are multiple black doodz in the background of the weathermen pic
-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), December 30th, 2005.

wait, that might be can ox
-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), December 30th, 2005.

are they like twice the size of normal humans or what?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

they are on uncle sam stilts

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

i Believe those blacks are Can Ox and the Camu Tao dood in the size 28 girls Wranglers posted above.

Mr Straight Toxic is obviously unaware that El P keeps severeal large, musty looking black men in his basement to be used for token-black-in-picture purposes when his "i don't care what anybody on the internet sez about Def Jux being a label for mutant crackers in trucker hats and skull t-shirts, Company Flow were thanked on a Gang Starr lp in 1998!!!!" rants start falling on deaf ears when Def Jux's relevance to rap is questioned.

I wonder if Sage and the Asian kid in the sweater tag-teamed that slore in the front row after he finished rapping about enchanted forrests for the evening. I bet the Asian dude straight ripped up that pussy.

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

they opened up the wormhole and out popped evil-patrin

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, I'm the good one?

― disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck you !!!!!!!!

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― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cinemacom.com/50s-sci-fi/when-worlds-collide.jpg

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

More like "when one world stumbles onto another world and mutters 'what the fuck, man, this is weird' and leaves"

― disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Cage sez : Snaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrffffffffffffff, nigga.

http://www.ecrecs.com/CKFACE.JPG

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.canyonart.com/Images/Jemez/p745.jpg

― John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

posting pictures of Cage's grill veers dangerously close to sub-Trifean

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.icecreamman.com/images/thumbs/tmb_050927cage23.jpg

http://www.icecreamman.com/images/thumbs/tmb_050927cage18.jpg

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

game recognize game eh Ellis? My man!

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Black people don't care about black people.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

copywrite is a seriously dope rapper
el-p is trash on the mic but hes cooked a few good beats and i respect his grind
cage could be brilliant before he went emo - smut peddlers got me thru h.s. and i still go back to the lyrical depth on cuts like 'weather people' but hes a long haired nerd rap fag now
camu tau was the wackest mc in mhz but his sparse thuggish style on the nighthawks collab led to some classic verses
cann ox are wack, sloppy, derivative rappers w/ occasional decent punches that got endlessly dissected by new-jack internet herbs
sage francis is 100% garbage, shit aint even rap music

in conclusion quit tryna be me 4 yrs ago

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 07:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/gypsyfrocksbedlam/eminem-052.jpg

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 08:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ayo, Ethan, as R.P can attest you've been bitin'/plagarizing us original '98 -'01 rap board trolls here on indie rock/euro-techno.com for the past 4 years and are using terms i created by accident 6 years ago like "nerd-rap" in this very thread.

We Don King-ed the original Def Jux/white rapper backlash and orchestrated Cage getting herbed on air, El P justifying his relevance to rap before taking his message board down in a fit of rage and Vordul getting knocked out at his own show over 5 years ago..

..you are some hick who writes for indie rock websites, who "got through hs by listening to Smut Peddlers" and who got his head gassed up from the lames on this site by having slightly better taste in rap than utterly clueless bitchmade jewish rap fans from Minnesota like Nate Patrin

Play yer position here, lil' man

― ELLI$, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

are you fucking kidding

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

how old are you anyway?

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

i mean arent you like 30

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

See, this is what happens when you let hardcore punk fans "discover" rap

― disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Karp ruled.

Worst Case Scenario were probably the last great hardcore band of the 90s before the whole scene turned lame. The 7" on Lookout is probably their best release. I was also at that show in R.I. Very underrated group.

Young Ginns were, at best, decent.

Unwound wise, i'm a "new plastic ideas" and all the 7" s around that time (teh one on Gravity, "m.k ultra"/"totality" and the one on Troubleman) kinda guy.

I never checked the Replikants.

-- ELLI$ (ayo88...), November 10th, 2005.

YOU'RE THE LAST REAL NIGGA ALIVE

― disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

(also you probably wouldn't be listening to rap if it weren't for Rick Rubin, shove your anti-semitism up your ughh.com ass)

― disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

..but hes a long haired nerd rap fag now

sage francis is 100% garbage, shit aint even rap music

lol on both counts

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

for real, maybe hating on def jux was funny in the cann ox/fan dam era but nobody even rolls with em now

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Karp ruled.
Worst Case Scenario were probably the last great hardcore band of the 90s before the whole scene turned lame. The 7" on Lookout is probably their best release. I was also at that show in R.I. Very underrated group.
Young Ginns were, at best, decent.
Unwound wise, i'm a "new plastic ideas" and all the 7" s around that time (teh one on Gravity, "m.k ultra"/"totality" and the one on Troubleman) kinda guy.
I never checked the Replikants.
-- ELLI$ (ayo88...), November 10th, 2005.
YOU'RE THE LAST REAL NIGGA ALIVE

-- disco violence (discoviolenc...), January 3rd, 2006. (disco violence)

hahhaha ooouch!

altho....ELLI$ is right about Karp and earlier Unwoud- sweet stuff!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

using terms i created by accident 6 years ago like "nerd-rap" in this very thread.

― 'Twan (miccio), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

ok yall was i this embarrassing back in the day??

― $#@!!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

as long as you never told anyone on a message board to "play your position", then no.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i hear that, a grown man e-thuggin bout who dissed sage francis on the internet first is some pathetic shit

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

ethan I hold you somewhat responsible for poseurs like ellis here

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

i said the same thing to eddie vedder once

― 'Twan (miccio), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

and now look at him

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.rexfordgbrown.com/its_your_fault.jpg

― yuengling participle (rotten03), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

lately i only fuck with that gza/muggs album anywayz

― $#@!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

in conclusion quit tryna be me 4 yrs ago

I'm in TEARS right now

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - is that good then? i'm liking the ghostface/trife da god cd

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

real real lyrical

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

seriously is that grandmasters record any good or were you being sarcastic? i can never tell. i like the idea of it but i thought it was for corny old dudes (like me) and i wouldn't wanna join a club that would have me for a member etc.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

nah dude i played that like 6000 times since it dropped - 'patriotic huslters that killed for presidents / concealed the truth but cant hide the evidence / under the watchful eye of federal agents / collecting cans while they were disguised as vagrants'

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

does muggs still "have it" ?

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

fake rza beats???? yes

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

for real he sounds like hes biting mathematics now but i was deep into 'beneath the surface' so fuck it

― $#@!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

some of the cuts are almost on 4th disciple's level

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha, but muggs did fake rza beats before rza but anyway it sounds nice, i'll pick it up

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

I only sorta like it but what I really love about it is that its a total nerd rap album.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

Like the beats are cool because they're so psuedo-rza but its kinda boring after a while. Maybe I just need to listen to it more.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

...story of lots of underground rap now. I like Little Brother's psuedo-pete rock but rhythmically talk about a one-trick pony.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

remember that cut w/ gza off soul assassins??? dopest ever

― $#@!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

that little brother is real nice too i dont get why every true skooler wants to shit on dudes

― $#@!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

i even liked most of "legends of the liquid sword"

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

i think i was hating wu back when that dropped

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

how many disciples are there!!?!

― howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

12 ?

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

that little brother is real nice too i dont get why every true skooler wants to shit on dudes

27707! I am happier than I should be that you like lb, it's been awful watching everybody harsh on them during their come-up

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Legends of the Liquid Swords is awesome! Luminal is amazing!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah Legends of a LS is really good - I mean, as long as you know what yr getting into going into it (rhymes caught up in Juice Crew-style, GZA always sounded like a throwback even in '95 I think, the gimmick track like "Animal Planet," low budget beats). But "Knock Knock," "Autobio," "Stay in Line," "Animal Planet" and the title track destroy.

Reviews of the Little Brother album have been really unfair. I donno I bought the Listening back when that dropped, I remember some big controversy after HHI gave it a negative review back when HHI existed. MORE RAP MESSAGE BOARD DRAMA. And I liked it quite a bit. But I never really pulled it out in the intervening years, and I kinda wish the beats moved beyond the latter-day tribe/jay dee/pete rock axis they rock just because i think they would definitely benefit from some more mercenary (pop) production. But yeah Minstrel Show's negative reviews seem rather unjustified, like they are being forced to pay the price for rap reviewers who wish they'd taken Cash Money as seriously as Rawkus. Or maybe it just isn't trendy, I donno.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

haha in mid 2004 the shitty uk rap mag hip-hop connection "discovered" the south and started doin shit like spend a whole charizma review on how the "absolutely fantastic" lil flip kills anything on the stones throw label & they actually even did a cash money vs rawkus feature a while back

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kinda glad HHC does that though, because at least it pisses off the majority of their readers who'll write in and be all "WHY IS THERE NO 24 PAGE ARTICLE ON BRAINTAX IN THIS ISSUE?"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

ethan i got grandmasters. loving it. thanks.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

well yeah about the only thing worse than shilling for wack irrelevant bullshit like jackie o and slim thug is actually talking about uk hiphop

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

now now e

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

9th/Buckshot Chemistry 17,410 7/12/2005
Access Immortal Shades of Reality 54 5/31/2005
Aesop Rock Fast Cars..EP 29,382 2/22/2005
Atmosphere You Can't Imagine... 64,793 10/4/2005
AZ AWOL 42,068 4/26/2005
Big Shug Who's Hard? 4,141 9/13/2005
Black Market Militia Black Market Militia 4,036 03/2005
Blackalicious The Craft 37,901 9/27/2005
Blockhead Downtown Science 3,076 10/18/2005
Blueprint 1988 10,985 03/2005
Boom Bap Project Reprogram 5,381 6/21/2005
C Rayz Walz Year of the Beast 8,390 05/2005
Cage Hell's Winter 11,303 9/20/2005
Casual Smash Rockwell 3,039 9/6/2005
Cesar Comanche Squirrel... 724 9/20/2005
Dangerdoom Mouse and Mask 82,706 10/11/2005
Edan Beauty and the Beat 9,102 03/2005
Felt Felt 2 23,176 7/2/2005
Ge-ology Ge-ology... 976 6/21/2005
Grayskul Deadlivers 6,079 2/12/2005
J-Live The Hearafter 5,543 5/24/2005
JuJu Mob Black Candles 793 5/17/2005
Jus Allah All Fates Have Changed 4,995 5/10/2005
Kev Brown I Do... 1,863 9/20/2005
Lady Sovereign Vertically Challenged 4,745 11/15/2005
Ladybug Mecca Trip the Light Fantastic 2,352 6/7/2005
Lawless Element Soundvision... 1,679 7/26/2005
Little Brother Chitlin Circuit 19,902 6/21/2005
Little Brother Minstrel Show 56,629 9/13/2005
M.O.P. St. Marxmen 8,783 10/18/2005
Maspyke Static 321 9/20/2005
Mathematics Problem 11,797 6/28/2005
MED Push Comes... 4,228 3/22/05
Muggz/GZA Grandmasters 25,244 10/25/2005
Necro Sexorcist 6,039 8/2/2005
Ohmega Watts The Find 3,067 9/13/2005
One Be Lo Sonagram 13,313 02/8/2005
Perceptionists Black Dialogue 16,567 3/22/2005
Platinum Pied Pipers Triple P 6,334 5/10/2005
Pumpkinhead Orange Moon... 824 8/23/2005
Purple City Road to the Riches 35,418 03/2005
Quasimoto The Further Adventures... 27,418 03/2005
R.A. the Rigged Man Die Rugged... 9,793 11/16/2005
Reef the Lost Cause Feast... 693 9/20/2005
Sadat X Experience... 2,007 10/25/2005
Sage Francis Healthy Distrust 42,559 02/2005
Self Scientific Change 1,258 10/25/2005
Skillz Confessions... 3,650 9/13/2005
Slum Village Slum Village 9,480 9/27/2005
Strong Arm Steady Volume 1 1,650 10/4/2005
Supastition Chain Letters 739 10/25/2005
Supernatural SPIT 1,861 11/15/2005
Think Differently Wu-Tamg Meets 24,096 10/18/2005
U-God Mr. Xcitement 3,694 9/13/2005
Vast Aire/Mighty Best Damn Rap SHow 3,566 5/4/200

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

thats a depressing number for the actually-decent Sadat X record.
Good to see AZ could sell at least six digits.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

he could?

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

jeez poor U-God only moved 3600! damn....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

mp3 file-sharing is killing the music industry.

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I paid 16.99 for that AZ record, seriously! I couldn't find it cheap anywhere.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

all white dude edition, in descending sales order-

Atmosphere You Can't Imagine... 64,793 10/4/2005
Sage Francis Healthy Distrust 42,559 02/2005
Felt Felt 2 23,176 7/2/2005
Cage Hell's Winter 11,303 9/20/2005
R.A. the Rigged Man Die Rugged... 9,793 11/16/2005
Edan Beauty and the Beat 9,102 03/2005
Necro Sexorcist 6,039 8/2/2005
Lady Sovereign Vertically Challenged 4,745 11/15/2005
Blockhead Downtown Science 3,076 10/18/2005
Purple City Road to the Riches 35,418 03/2005 (just playin)

haha watch edan get his dick sucked by rock critics while no-promo (cept XXL) r.a. moves 600 more units

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

...Also, I liked Big Tone's album more than Little Brothers. I can't remember exactly how he's related to them but I think they have the same distributer or something. He was down with Jay Dee for a while and is from DETROIT. No one talked about him this year. : (

xp roffle @ Necro outselling Lady Sov.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

$600 is nothing to sneeze at

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

dude on a underground label thats more like $5000

― $#@!!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

no underground label has ever fudged accounting or cheated an artist however

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

admittedly i'm guessing ra's rider isn't too hefty

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

but yeah shit is wrong when you got atomsphere & sage francis doin 15x the numbers of vets like MOP & casual

― %$#@!!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

xpost too easy dude...

― %$#@!!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

and MIA!

xpost

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

roffle @ Necro outselling Lady Sov

this shit needs to get posted on every ilm thread about sov/mia/diplo/who the fuck ever blowing up in the rap game just cuz pharrell pretended to know who they were in a fashion mag interview

― $#@!!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

xp roffle @ Necro outselling Lady Sov.

-- deej.. (clublonel...), January 4th, 2006. (deej..) (later)

Sex appeal sells.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

lmao @ me & dom quoting the same shit

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Remember when Pharrell was going to work with Jentina? Anybody? No?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

JuJu Mob Black Candles 793 5/17/2005
9th/Buckshot Chemistry 17,410 7/12/2005
Think Differently Wu-Tamg Meets 24,096 10/18/2005
Skillz Confessions... 3,650 9/13/2005
Mathematics Problem 11,797 6/28/2005
AZ AWOL 42,068 4/26/2005
Platinum Pied Pipers Triple P 6,334 5/10/2005
Black Market Militia Black Market Militia 4,036 03/2005
R.A. the Rigged Man Die Rugged... 9,793 11/16/2005
Casual Smash Rockwell 3,039 9/6/2005
Reef the Lost Cause Feast... 693 9/20/2005
Jus Allah All Fates Have Changed 4,995 5/10/2005

these are all pretty dope

― $#@!!!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

hiphop connection is the only thing that ever published anything i wrote. they said they were gonna pay me and never fucking did.

― 3333333333, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

jeez poor U-God only moved 3600! damn....

-- M@tt He1geson (matt@game[remove]informer.com), January 4th, 2006 4:40 PM. (Matt Helgeson)

just look at his weak tracklisting:

1. Blow Yo Mind Intro
2. It's A Wrap featuring Letha Face
3. Hit 'Em Up, Roll Out featuring Letha Face
4. Get Down featuring Boo Kapone, Squeak Ru and MC Eiht
5. Don King Speaks To U-God
6. I'm Talkin' To You
7. Kick Azz
8. You Don't Want To Dance
9. Go Get Pretty Like Me
10. A Long Time Ago featuring Ebony Burke
11. Stop (Carry On) featuring Ebony Burke
12. Bump
13. Dedication Skit
14. Don't Love The Drugs
15. Heart of Stone
16. Jenny

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

the dj premier track on the AZ album is lovely.

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

nas and premo, guys. get ready.

― 333333, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

5. Don King Speaks To U-God

YSI?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

I didnt like the Buckshot album much at all. Even if you like 9th Wonder, dude does not sound good over jay dee snares.
BTW best songs on Minstrel Show are "Hiding Place" and "Slow it Down." I thought the Big Shug album was fun, if you like DJ Premier beats that could have dropped any time in the last 15 years.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

AND YOU DO

― $#@#!!!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

that's the beauty of that dj premier beats. it's like that line from dazed & confused when the dude says "that's what i like about high school girls - i keep getting older, they stay the same age".

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 5 January 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

OTM

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

all white dude edition, in descending sales order-
Felt Felt 2 23,176 7/2/2005

http://www.allhiphop.com/CelebImages/feat_murs.gif
yeah I know Murs is probably not the reason a lotta people bought the Felt record but still.

(also I would play the "Slug is like totally mixed and shit" card but even the dude who does the college radio rap show up in Mpls. didn't know until recently.)

― disco violence (disco violence), Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

Murs sounds a lot like Aceyalone.
I listened to the new Aceyalone album all-prod. by RJD2 and I don't remember liking it too much which is sad because I love old Ace1 and I'm an RJD2 fan too, more or less.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

and I think I got a promo of that RA CD and never found anyone who'd run a review; it's got "Black and White" on it so that alone would have me leaning positive.

xp I haven't listened too hard to the Aceyalone album yet but (a) the beats seem good at first listen and (b) the accompanying press kit has a photo of RJ where he totally looks like the lost member of Franz Ferdinand

― disco violence (disco violence), Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

i usedta fuck w/ acey & i love rjd2 when he actually makes beats instead of fake dj shadow or rock music but that new cd is the worst shit ever

― $##@!!!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:24 (nineteen years ago)

nas and premo, guys. get ready.

-- 333333 (33333...), January 4th, 2006 5:40 PM.

what? when?

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

Haha I know Scratch said that Nas + Premo promised to do an album together but I don't see it happening. I'll check it out, right after I check out the Rakim and Dre album.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that whole article seemed pretty desperate and forced, like even in the interviews they were kinda shrugging like "sure...it could happen". I love Scratch but I guess it was a matter of time until they needed to shart shoehorning rappers who don't even pretend to produce on the cover.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

Nate Patrin be formulating lies

E---- P------ be copy and pasting G.B posts

Streets is watchin', lil niggers.

― ELLI$, Thursday, 5 January 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

those Sage Francis numbers are crazy, wtf? I would've thought "Fast Cars" would outsell that pretty easy - also, why's he not on the all white dude edition?

Ellis btw nobody gives a shit how real you are OK

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

can somebody edit my name off this dumbass thread

― $#@!!!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

unless bret ea$ton elli$ wants to post his personal info too

― $#@!!!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

not holding my breath for that act of testicle-having to take place

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

play yer position here, lil' man

― $#@!!!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is pathetic.

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6967/cenabloodycloseup4ev1cl.jpg

― disco violence (disco violence), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

thats what happened when john cena fucked w/ esoteric

― $##@!!!!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ esoteric outselling cena

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

lmao @ esoteric calling himself 'esoterrorist'

― $#@$!!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

who does he think he is, hakim bey?

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ hakim bey outselling lady sov

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

just so you know, the correct placement of the apostrophe is as follows: "li'l" - placing the apostrophe at the end is meaningless

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

eric bey & hakim

― $#@!$@!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

also, the KKK is an organization predicated on the belief that whites are superior to blacks, and that black culture is inferior to white culture; Sage Francis is a white underground rapper participating in a culture that's essentially black, so to conflate him with the Klan betrays either a total lack of understanding about the nature of the Klan, southern history, American history in general & rap music, or a willful desire to misrepresent same

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

bitch

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ fall out boy outselling mountain goats

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

haha sorry john, i couldn't resist

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

yo john gimme ur soundscan so i can put you on the all white list

― $#@!!!!@, Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha
40,000 and climbing baby

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

sorry about the li'l correction, it just drives me nuts

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

rofl @ jus allah outselling microhouse

― $#@!!!#, Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

I am lying about the scans btw, I don't actually have any idea

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

john do you think its possible for white rock dudes to be racist? what about white jazz musicians?

― $#@!$!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ bix biderbecke outselling louis armstrong

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck around and you gonna get Vordulled outta the game, lil' nigger

..it all started in 1997 of course. a little nobody netcee called Fard Muhammad Jeagraves did an inflammatory rhyme entitled "JESUS CHRIST IS A LIE" in order to drum up controversy and make people notice him. In all likelihood, it all would have died out after a month ro two and he'd have been relegated to being the footnote in internet ip-Hop history he desere to be.

Instead, I battled him.

At the time, I was in the duel role of beig the big hero at Sethro's and the big villain at Davey D's (bear with me here, netceeing was just a tad bit dramatic back in the olden days). Becuse of this, when I battle Fard, it instantly transformed him into a hero at Davey's, one of the most popular guys there. He used that shine to start his own site, Fard's Temple. In '99, he converted the Temple into Hip Hop Infinity, dropped the Muslim act and because Jay Seagraves The Angry Atheist, and moved into the big time as the wemaster of a major indie Hip-Hop site.

And so for eight or so years now, I've been carrying the weight of responsibility for this megalomaniacal buffoon with the temperment of a small child's continued paticipation in the internet Hip-Hop arena. But now...sweet, sweet freedom...

Now I wonder how he's gonna do in that election running on the "If you're not an atheist, you're an idiot" ticket...

― ELLI$, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

slow clap

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

12:03 PM, 05 Jan 06 CracKKKer rapper deathmatch : Sage Francis + fans VS. El P, Cage, Def Jux allstars and token Black guy deleted by cancer prone fat guy (oops, my finger slipped)

― $#@!!!$, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

a chilling vision of the future

― %$#@!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

― , Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

― , Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

dude at least have the balls to troll under yr initial fake name

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

this is some sad shit!

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

for real dude give it up

― $#@!!$, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

did elli$ go off his meds or something

― $#@!!$, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

[government name removed]

― JESS HAV3LL, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

i almost want to leave that up as a testament

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

did hip hop infinity have moderators?? all i know about dudes was they rolled with even gayer rap than ilm

― $#@#!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

every 00s underground board had a dude who wouldnt shut up about his classic 13 page HHI thread where they found dose one's girlfriend's friendster page or some bullshit

― $#@#!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

[government name removed]

― JESSICA MARVELL, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

KID PLEAWSE..U GOT THEM HHI THREADS PRINTED OUT ON YER WALL

― BIG JUSS SED : "REMOVE THAT REVIEW HOMIE", Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

best thread of '06 so far

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Going up against some fucking heavy competition, too.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

WHY U DELETE MY PATRIN THREAD, HARVELL ?

― ELLI$, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Elli$ how long have you been on ILM? has it just been the last few weeks that I've noticed, or have you been stalking these dudes for a long time?

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

john do you think its possible for white rock dudes to be racist? what about white jazz musicians?

mathematically impossible!

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

i havent seen such flagrant e-thuggin since the days of RealTalk on iap-tv

― $#@!$!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

"netceeing" is a word?!? my lord, what have we become as a society?

ELLI$, you are making me ashamed to be an Unwound fan....that's ill homie. Leaves turn an e-thug inside out, for realz.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

ILM SINCE 2000

HARVELL = SHOOK

― ELLI$ PADGETT, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Mission of Burma is gully as hell. I'm rocking their new iTunes live EP. Church.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

MISSION OF BURMA = DUD

GANG GREEN = CLASSIC

ME = ICON

MATT HELGESON = GAY

― ELLI$ HE1GESON, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

there are better ways to wind people up, ELLI$

― $#@#!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, claiming Gang Green is a good band is a cry for help.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

aight that last post was not me - 'wind people up'??

― $#@#@!!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

EP, I always told you that eventually one of your Stans would try to gun you down

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

through the looking glass here, folks

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

ETHAN =

http://www.faceparty.com/public/18/images/juddnelson_618583.jpg

― ELLI$ PADGETT, Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

and also that constantly using nonsense pseudonyms makes it MUCH easier for them to impersonate you (xp)

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Live Through This is gully as hell

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

2.7 for everyone today.

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.vassarclements.com/pics/g4b.jpg

"The Bluefield Boys", 1940's - Gerald Clements, Vassar,
Bobby Green, Carroll Clements, Ellis Padgett

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

lmao @ "netceeing" beef outsonning a wite kid

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

lol @ esoteric outselling cena

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

lmao @ esoteric calling himself 'esoterrorist'

-- $#@$!!! ($...), January 5th, 2006.

who does he think he is, hakim bey?

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

― ,,,,,,,,,, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

haha wtf

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

2.7 for everyone today.

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

― ,,,,,,,,, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

kudos

― sanskrit, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

hoo boy

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:51 (eighteen years ago)

RIP.

― jim, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

I say this way too much as it is, but... hahahaha oh maaaaaaan

― bernard snowy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

Ellis was a flame that burned too soon.

-- Dom Passantino, Thursday, March 1, 2007 9:38 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link

― deej, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

who does he think he is, hakim bey?

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

that shit is classic

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

ILM SINCE 2000
HARVELL = SHOOK

-- ELLI$ PADGETT, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:55 (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

qft

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 6 July 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

this thread could have saved the world

― J0hn D., Sunday, 8 July 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

I like Sage Francis.

― Jeff, Sunday, 8 July 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

no necro in this thread?

― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 8 July 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

ELLI$, you are making me ashamed to be an Unwound fan.

-- M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:49 (1 year ago) Link

― and what, Saturday, 22 September 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha love m@tt no homo

― deej, Saturday, 22 September 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

eric bey & hakim

― am0n, Saturday, 22 September 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

that was the best part

― s1ocki, Saturday, 22 September 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

White Doodz rap about Philip K Dick and Natalie Portman, amirite?

― mulla atari, Sunday, 23 September 2007 03:25 (seventeen years ago)

IML ILIKE ELP THE BEATS ARE GOOD THE RAPOING ISNYT AS UP TO SNUFF UNDIEINDIE RAPPERS ARENT M,Y BAG BUT I LIKE THE BEATS

― latebloomer, Sunday, 23 September 2007 03:31 (seventeen years ago)

i'm a bit durnk rite now but this thred is like the best thing ever.

― gff, Sunday, 23 September 2007 03:57 (seventeen years ago)

Who uses the phrase "Don't taze me, bro" in a song first?

a) Aesop Rock
b) MC Paul Barman
c) Sage Francis
d) Camron comes up with it on his own

― mulla atari, Sunday, 23 September 2007 04:23 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.definitivejux.net/news/895

― Ron Polarik, PhD (and what), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not buying it from Wayne, he's way more just plain "dumb" then he is "avante guard" or "strange". We all have known that guy who is as dumb as a pile of bricks, who would get stoned and say crazy off the wall shit. That guy isn't a genius, he's slow and his brain can't handle deep thoughts so it spits out random nuggets of nonsense that HAPPEN to be funny. Wayne is the rap equivalent to that guy.

There's no argument here that he has vastly improved since he first came out with the Cash Money Millionaires but even with that improvement, he's still just Lil Wayne.

haha wow

― some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ esoteric outselling cena
-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

HOES ALL OVER THE WORLD
I GOT MORE STYLE THAN A RIC FLAIR ROBE

― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

y'know who else is terrible? that soulja boy character!

― mensrightsguy (internet person), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.prefixmag.com/site_media/uploads/images/in_text/features/b/blockhead/259Blockhead-2.jpg

― you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

posted in the cut and i'm lookin for a blockhead

― you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

i won't lie, i still really like some of the beats on labor days

― some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

I stopped reading definitive jux dot net a few years ago

― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:07 (sixteen years ago)

they jumped out, and hit his ass with the taser
fifty thousand volts turned him into joe frazier

― Dr. Yakubius (and what), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

lol @ bix biderbecke outselling louis armstrong

haw

― velko, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:55 (fifteen years ago)

Not in a -'You have a vagina so I think you're stupid' kinda way but more in a - 'I rarely meet a girl who I think is cool' - kinda way. To be fair, I rarely meet a cool guy either but I can bond with dumb men about shit like sports and tits so it lessens the issue. As much as I feel like a total misogynist sometimes when I think about it, I'm nowhere near as bad as certain guys, and those certain guys are?

Normal guys.

― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 09:09 (fifteen years ago)

was checkin out the phi1afl@va board where rollie pemberton used to post, shit is all "fag" jokes & ppl trying to come up w/ the most estalker-y ways of talking shit & getting each others' skin, basically the kind of environment elli$ was spawned in. real depressing to read tbh

― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

there are some good people at pf that know their shit but yeah reading it for more than five minutes makes me despair.

― david cam'ron (tpp), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

pretty sure i know who this elli$ guy is too haha

― david cam'ron (tpp), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

gang green is better than i give them credit for on this thread tbh

― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

yeah its a good spot to keep an eye out for record leaks & shit you may have missed but the level of discourse about actual music is awful

― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago)

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