New Outkast: "Idlewild" Movie and Soundtrack. Come Here to Anticipate or Hate!

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Is this going to be any good? That trailer looks like it could go either way. What do you think?

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Quite a cast! And I love me some Bruce Bruce!

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:19 (twenty years ago)

i have come to anticipate the hate.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Duh. It's Outkast. Of course it's gonna kick ass.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:28 (twenty years ago)

So this is their Under the Cherry Moon maneuver?

disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

Though damn, if the whole album sounds like Outkast doing a Dr. Buzzard's-gone-Dixieland routine I'll forgive 'em for that '03 trainwreck.

disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

lmao @ el-p stan dissing outkast cd as "trainwreck"

,, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

What's cooler than being cool?:

http://www.woxy.com/media/artists/idlewild.jpg

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Dude I haven't listened to Fantastic Damage in like a year and a half

disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:55 (twenty years ago)

(I usually just wind up putting Gary Numan and Black Sabbath and Wu-Tang on shuffle instead)

disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:56 (twenty years ago)

lmao @ eclectic namedropping

,, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:00 (twenty years ago)

But at least you know what you're getting going into that shit (logorrhea MCing over beats that are really only that amazing the first time and then the next few runthroughs you have to be drunk/depressed/watching 9/11 footage to "enjoy" them); nobody buys an Outkast record and flips out saying "man I hope there are bad drum'n'bass experiments and Around the World in a Day outtakes on this"

xp how the fuck else do you describe that new wave/doom-addled/post-RZA schtick he's got? Sorry for listening to more than one genre

disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:03 (twenty years ago)

yeah but speakerboxxx is still dope

,, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Well yeah.

disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

also el-p's gossip folks freestyle

,, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

where ARE my panties?

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

im just hoping it sounds more like
http://www.down-south.com/images/covers/georgia/DungeonFamily-EvenInDarkness.JPG
and less like
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Prince_Crystal.jpg

,, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

So this is their Under the Cherry Moon maneuver?
-- disco violence (discoviolenc...), January 17th, 2006.

otm. exactly this i'd have thought.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe the album will be better than "got that purp v. 2"

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Why Under the Cherry Moon as opposed to Purple Rain?

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)

"Crystal Ball" beats "Even In Darkness" hands down

Under the Cherry Moon's soundtrack (aka "Parade") sounds closer to "doing a Dr. Buzzard's-gone-Dixieland routine" than "Purple Rain" does.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Back when this was originally scheduled for a November '05 release, the Amazon listing said it would be copy protected (like Got Purp? vol 2). Hopefully the recent Sony debacle has convinced them to back down, but I'm not counting on it.

telephone thing, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:22 (twenty years ago)

outkast is a tight band.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:45 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
so what the hell is up with this record? Supposedly pushed back to today, but well geez, here's today, and no Idlewild soundtrack.

ample parking (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I've come to hate.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

why can't they just make a normal album?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)

the movie is pushed back to like october or some shit

,,, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

wtf is with the trailier being full of speakerboxxx/tlb songs (plus big boi's character is named "rooster" so that song will probably be in there somewhere too), that record is 2 and a half years old now.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Nothing about this looks promising. Please fastforward to 2008 when their respective solo albums (with guest cuts from each other) are doing well on the charts.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 01:28 (twenty years ago)

why can't they just make a normal album?

becasue Andre's a multilayered artist maaaaan

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 03:54 (twenty years ago)

And absolutely nothing to do with all the increased opportunities for making lots more lovely money by using different media to cash in on their recent success, obv.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I'm pretty sure Big Boi wouldn't be making any movies if it wasn't the only way to cunningly finesse Dre into making an Outkast record.

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 10:20 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
The first single "The Mighty O", produced by Organized Noize:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pgifc4

It's a radio rip and the sound quality is terrible.. but Andre raps which is enough to make me get amped for this.. don't really like the chorus (yet).

Oh and the release dates are now June 27th for the soundtrack and August 25th for the movie.

Guy Incognito (Guy Incognito), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds cool, but not like a hit. Can't wait to hear this in better sound quality.

Rodney/Genius (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

I recall everyone hating "The Way You Move" for the first few weeks.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

and look how well that turned out

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure what you mean, but "The Way You Move" is outstanding.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds good to me. I'm stoked for the soundtrack now.

Harpal (harpal), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds wicked, can't wait till' it leaks

Erock Lazron, Thursday, 4 May 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

I recall everyone hating "The Way You Move" for the first few weeks.

I loved "The Way You Move" when I first heard it. I have no desire to ever again hear it (or "Hey Ya", for that matter), but it's a damn good song.

Rodney/Genius (R. J. Greene), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:21 (nineteen years ago)

I was 'that guy' that didn't like TWYM at first. The new one sounds good and could sound great depending on what I'm not hearing in that shitty rip. I'm feeling Big Boi's flow more than usual, he should slow it down more often.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

FISHBONE ARE IN THIS MOVIE THEY HAVE BIG PARTS

city of gyros (chaki), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

'The Mighty O' in full quality:

http://rapidshare.de/files/19975528/01_MIGHT_O.mp3.html

Guy Incognito (Guy Incognito), Monday, 8 May 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
The trailer:

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/universal/idlewild/

Seems like it could go either way.

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Sunday, 18 June 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
Tom Breihan: If you loved The Love Below, you should probably take my opinion on Idlewild with a huge grain of salt, especially considering that I only heard the album once. But here it is: Idlewild is a terrible album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

FISHBONE ARE IN THIS MOVIE THEY HAVE BIG PARTS

I heard that they did songs w/ Outkast for OST, is this also true!?!?!

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I hate "The Mighty O" for its hook but love the verses and vice versa for "Morris Brown."

Tape Store (Tape Store), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not feeling any of the three singles so far; they're all pretty boring at best.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

I heart "Morris Brown"!

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Friday, 11 August 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

i just listened to "Morris Brown"

it is still wonderful.

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

"The Mighty O" = the mighty yaaawn.

But "Morris Brown" is great! "Hollywood Divorce" is pretty good too. I think I'm looking forward to this.

Roz (Roz), Saturday, 12 August 2006 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

Say what you will, but whenever I put on 'The Mighty O' the crowd goes wild. Perhaps a drink helps the experience, but the audience responds. Loving the Brazilian/Marching Band thing.

Criff (Criff), Saturday, 12 August 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

saw the video for....i tthink it was called "idlewild blues"?

it sucked.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Saturday, 12 August 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

I love Mighty O for its hook and the bassline.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 13 August 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

I expect the album to be bad, but the movie to be good. Care to fight me?

regular roundups (Dave M), Sunday, 13 August 2006 07:31 (nineteen years ago)

'Morris Brown' is a ridiculous mess. Talk about losing it. Makes the worst bits of the last album (which I still defend generally) look a lot better.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

this album is...not good.

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not, like, aghast at its badness or anything, because of how much i disliked the last one, but i'm thinking maybe at this point they just shoulda kept a their chocolate and peanut butter separate. even the halfway decent rap tracks are ruined by the "creamy" vocal hooks and crap playing.

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

the few times andre deigns fit to descend from olympus to sully himself by rapping it's so boring it almost makes me want to cry.

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

i sort of hate outkast now

gear (gear), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

because of how much i disliked the last one

Is your name Jess Harvell?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

...

gear (gear), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

No I dont really like this album much either..

Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

my favourite group have become really shit.

tigertiger (tigertiger), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

But then they never have produced two albums that sounded alike.

Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that's the thing--this is bad, but it really doesn't sound like any of their other albums.

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

haha except that it's kinda like the worst parts of love below laid over speakerboxxx

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

i actually get angry when something from speakerboxxx/tlb comes up on my itunes. i should really delete that.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

oh come on there's great stuff on Speakerboxxx. Love Below's songs are all like a minute too long. I'll give this a listen, but I'm skeptical - might be time to retire and just do something else (uh, besides make questionable films)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not listening to any bad-talk about this until I actually hear it.

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 17 August 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

The only stuff I stil listen to from S/TLB is Tomb of the Boom, Way You Move, and Bowtie.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

i don't hate the album and i think the song with Snoop is great. dunno what the singles would be as nothing stood out that much and it's wicked long

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 17 August 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

they just shoulda kept a their chocolate and peanut butter separate
-- PARTYMAN (wt...), August 15th, 2006 5:47 PM. (dubplatestyle)


what can i say, i like my chocolate in my peanut butter
-- jaxon (jaso...), July 26th, 2006 7:05 PM. (jaxon)

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 17 August 2006 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

Is it just me or does "Idlewild Blue" sound like a mashup of "Higher Ground" and "Personal Jesus"?

This album is, unfortunately, as disappointing as I feared it would be after hearing "The Mighty 'O'"

EZ Snappin (EZSnappin), Thursday, 17 August 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

whoa jaxon & jess conversing THRU TIME

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 August 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm finding it very hard to find a track I really like. So far: "Chronomentrophobia" and that's about it. That's tough.

JoB (JoB), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

First impressions, First impressions...thing about *most* hip hop albums is that they're annoying on first lesson, for some reason. I've listened to this all the way through about 7 or 8 times now, and there's some brilliant stuff going on - so playful. I think a lot of it feels half-formed, but in a really interesting way.
Also, I love that they've embraced the Sleepy Brown / Janelle style hooks. The whole Dungeon Fam is built on that stuff, and it just feels great.
At this point these songs are as good as anything they've done:

N2U (with Khujo Goodie) channels Prince more effectively than anything on TLB
Chronomentrophobia is really, really smart
Hollywood divorce with Lil Wayne and Snoop is fantastic
In your dreams with Sleepy is just this big melodic thing that's so hard to hate

paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

After eight or nine plays, the only thing sticking is Life Is Like a Musical, and that's primarily 'cause it's a flagrant rip of Terry Callier's Ordinary Joe.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

you can hear the whole album on myspace.

grady (grady), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw the HBO "First Look" 30 min. piece on the movie. I will go see it, but I cannot see the soundtrack displacing any of the older ones in my playlists.

Esquire, Bitch. (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

WTF? 9 tracks and this better start sucking soon or y'all have some splainin' to do. Actually, so far the Outkast album this reminds me most of is Aquemini. It has that same kind of laid-back fuck vibe to it.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

...laid back FUNK vibe...

Or at least I think that's what I meant.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Zingalamaduni !!!!

Sorry, I don't know what got into me...

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

First time I heard it, I disliked it cause it just sounded extremely wishwashy and didn't seem to have any hits on it. It still doesn't seem as though it has hit potential (in re to singles), but maybe that's just me (and my crap ears). That said, I really love the record. It does sound like an OST but it's very consistent and has some great tracks on it. I love Hollywood Divorce, Morris Brown, Makes no sense at all and Mighty O. It doesn't sound really daring, a bit sepia coloured.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

I think "Morris Brown" would be huge at any time other than right now. Right now hip-hop radio is so invested in the post-crunk diaspora that anything that doesn't make at least nominal nod to crunk sounds way out of line. I think that's why "Deja Vu" didn't do well either. (Both of those are top 5 singles of the year to me.)

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, maybe they went completely the opposite way as not to sound like everyone else? Not sure... just guessing. I love the record, I really do.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with you. This is great. Much better than SB/TLB or (braces to be jumped) Stankonia (which I never "got". Its the only Outkast record I've never played obsessively every day at some point in my life).

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't sound a lot messier than SB/TLB to you?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

No, in a sense it sounds very *samey*. That's the positive and negative aspect of it. :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

It's a good album if you ignore the skits and the last four songs.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't sound a lot messier than SB/TLB to you?

Messier than SB/TLB??? Like that's possible.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

'Morris Brown' arrangement esp. percussion seems a lot messier than anything on SB/TLB, except maybe the 'My Favourite Things' thing but that was deliberate messing around not a lead single!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

To me, "Morris Brown" is perfectly constructed, not a note out of place, so I'm not following.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

God damn I love that song, I just have to say.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you meant messier as an album. Yeah, the production on SB/TLB was super super clean, so it wouldn't be hard to get messier.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I misinterpreted that too. (Though the production on Idlewild is also super-clean, so again, not following.)

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

With 'Morris Brown' in particular I think there's too much of the marching band drums tinkering along underneath the rhymes and chorus which I found irritating and distracting. But at the same time the brass and beat sound quite flat and there's not enough punch/weight to it - presumably because of the relative complexity of the duo's vocals (but again I think they're stretching too far here) with the assortment of noises scattered throughout the track (even tho I so often love 'packing it in' e.g. Basement Jaxx). Sorry, I really don't like it and just trying to reason why!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

they're really into pumping the historically black colleges

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

x-post: "Call the Law" could do with a Basement Jaxx remix!

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Call the Law" could do with a Basement Jaxx remix!

YES

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

Aww the beat on Hollywood Divorce is nice. It's really New Orleans.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

And I don't care if Morris Brown is messy, it's hot. The reversed afro-cuban cowbell shit is sweet.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't mind messy, but this is muddy. It needs some sharper edges.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's an apple, I wish it was an orange.

It's muddy for a reason. I think they consciously did not aim for something sharp and edgy. It'd sound too modern.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think the word we are looking for is "sloppy." As in, "They are getting sloppy." Right? Right.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

it's really just a case of too many annoying little drum and brass sounds in a beat this slow, compared to 'The Whole World' which was a much simpler, better production imo.

it sounds really undisciplined and all over the place whereas SB/TLB was disciplined, it was just some of the ideas themselves that were dubious.

(don't wanna keep going on about it but just wanted to pinpoint source of my gripe).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking of TWW cuz that's the first place I heard them rap straight over a triplet-based beat, and that is ALL over the place on this record.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

x-post The whole album could use a Basement Jaxx remix.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

reading this thread, and weighing up the 'this isnt very good'
'no it's okay' type arguing, it's looking like they've pulled a jaxx on us. but then i didn't like tlb/spkrboxx much at all.

pisces (piscesx), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

reading this thread, and weighing up the 'this isnt very good'
'no it's okay' type arguing, it's looking like they've pulled a jaxx on us.

I'm pretty sure there was a much stronger consensus in favor of the last jaxx record than for this new Outkast one.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

pulled a jaxx

Explain?

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

It helps to come to this record with very low expectations, I guess.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

the paradoxical thing about this alb is that's its completely overstuffed and yet also has a weirdly (and unappealing) uniformity of sound

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

that said, i do like about half of it

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

uniformity of sound obv having something to do with being flick sndtrk

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

I generally prefer more uniform albums. ATLiens is my favorite Outkast.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

i just hate this particularly uniformity

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT THE BLUES, RIGHT

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

stfu, dre

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Fair enough.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

stfu, dre

Unfortunately OTM.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

it's really just a case of too many annoying little drum and brass sounds in a beat this slow,

It's not slow at all, the 12/8 feel just makes it seem that way. It's actually around the same tempo as, I don't know, 'Lose Control'.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

yeh i know. it's just shuffle beats can be awkward enough without the drums clutter you have here (and i do love countless tracks with this sort of beat inc. other Outkast tracks as mentioned).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

so, uh, that album closer, huh?

tom west (thomp), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

Mutron Angels should be the last track. Everything after is a bit pants.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Friday, 25 August 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

i really like the last note (or did on one play) - i guess it's aiming at funkadelic, not getting there. the delay on the drums and the droning piano chords make it sound like can in a very miserable moment or something instead. one review i read called it "eight minutes of feedback" which eh? i dunno.

tom west (thomp), Friday, 25 August 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah. It seemed to me it was totally going for "Maggot Brain".

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Friday, 25 August 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

are there tape edits/manipulation in maggot brain? one night i was sure there were but maybe i was stoned.

tom west (thomp), Friday, 25 August 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, this album is infuriating and three-quarters baked but I sure am listening to it a lot.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 August 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Completely the opposite for me, I havent listened to it more than once or twice since I got it.

Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Friday, 25 August 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Few film critics are passing up an Under the Cherry Moon joke.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, except parade is masterpiece

PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

plz to link to review comparing to under the cherry moon cuz at least 90% of idelewild (movie or soundtrack) reviews i've seen have engaged in some sort of 'it is a marriage of convenience and once they contrast fed their creativity but alas no more', a different tack HIGHLY welcome at this point (even if it's just rehased 'outkast = prince' for the nineteenhundredth time); movie sounds to be better than the album (cf 'roses' video vs. 'roses' song). it's kinda funny that not only is big boi making (MUCH) better music than dre now but go figure his movie career's reaped more dividends too.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://nypress.com/19/34/film/ArmondWhite.cfm

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

saw that coming!

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

maybe stanley crouch reviewed it too

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

you should def give them pimp lessons, Jerome.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

so did any film critics that have heard of outkast before this (or even, if it's not asking too much, before the notoriously too gangsta for ny 'hey ya') compare it to under the cherry moon?

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 25 August 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

A. white-authored hiphop books > jcunt's

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 August 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

(cf 'roses' video vs. 'roses' song)

The "Roses" video is atrocious. The song's alright, but two minutes too long.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 27 August 2006 06:44 (nineteen years ago)

churl

psycho pete (pete38), Sunday, 27 August 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

Some background on actual Idlewild

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
I absolutely *love* "Morris Brown".

Turangalila (Salvador), Sunday, 24 September 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
Was this album a total, no question flop? How many copies has it sold? Is that the biggest sales drop-off - from smash to stinker - in recent memory?

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Movie, btw, cost $15 mil, made $12 mil. Ouch.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, here it is: 400,000 or so. That's higher than I thought!

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

can i just say i play ATLiens over and over and it never ever bores me? can i?

rizzx (rizzx), Thursday, 26 October 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

To put that 400,000 tally in perspective, that's less than "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below" sold its first week.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 26 October 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

can i just say i play ATLiens over and over and it never ever bores me? can i?

Go for it. Shit, I'll even throw in that Southernplayalistic... is debatably the best rap album of '94.

nate p. (natepatrin), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Say, how was the fishbonin'?

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Listened to this yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to be reminded that the first half of the album is actually excellent. Morris Brown is huge.

chap, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)

Go for it. Shit, I'll even throw in that Southernplayalistic... is debatably the best rap album of '94.

-- nate p. (natepatrin), Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:16 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

you would lose that debate

and what, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:36 (seventeen years ago)

he's gone man, let him go

goole, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

hahahaha

skygreenleopard, Friday, 8 August 2008 20:40 (seventeen years ago)

"Morris Brown" is one of the weird summer jams that sounds totally sublime during the summer and completely unlistenable during the winter.

Go for it. Shit, I'll even throw in that Southernplayalistic... is debatably the best rap album of '94.

-- nate p. (natepatrin), Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:16 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Naw, I feel this. I think I did pick it in the best rap album of 94 poll.

The Reverend, Friday, 8 August 2008 22:28 (seventeen years ago)

i really liked Idlewild, and wasn't a big fan of Speakerboxx/Love Below

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 9 August 2008 02:52 (seventeen years ago)

"Morris Brown" is extremely underrated. Exhilarating and beautiful.

Turangalila, Saturday, 9 August 2008 13:14 (seventeen years ago)

music makes the world go round

Turangalila, Sunday, 10 August 2008 03:24 (seventeen years ago)

hollerin hey baby

The Reverend, Sunday, 10 August 2008 06:09 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNoLHZauCZs

most underrated song of the decade?

SORRY ASS IMPRESSIONS (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 11:05 (sixteen years ago)

Morris Brown and The Train are great track too.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)


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