BTW: I have posted two of these on indietorrents right now with plans to up the rest in weeks to come.
― not a food, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)
― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)
Gärdet 12.6.1970 is killer -- guess it's officially released? or something. hard to tell. whatever, it rocks.
― tylerw, Friday, 27 May 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
It is officially released (Subliminal Sounds) and I was listening to it this morning!:)
― Marco Damiani, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
me too! high five! so awesome.
― tylerw, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
One of the twins particularly enjoyed the music and danced to their version of Satisfaction - or at least he tried to. Maoist psych rock for children!
― Marco Damiani, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
Check Mors Mors for a totally killer 26 minute Sommerlaten.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
Also officially released.
basically everything this band has recorded is golden, imo. what i reallllly should spend more time with is the Parson Sound material. listened to the box in its entirety maybe 3-5 times after i bought it, having not heard the CD in years. time for another sesh.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 27 May 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i haven't heard everything by a long shot, but everything i have heard is gold.
― tylerw, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
i really like their new album from a year or two ago! it's good!
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 27 May 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
i heard this band on ian's radio show and now i am listening to some seriously extended jamsthis band rules
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 12:31 (fourteen years ago)
I like two pre-Trad acts better, but yeah they are still great.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
what are those bands? i'm totally uninformed.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
There are actually three: Parsson Sound, Harvester and International Harvester.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
oh! i do know a bit of int'l harvester. will have to dig up some of those releases. on a big trad gras kick lately.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
Both int'l albums are great. The cd's have bonus tracks that are worth your while. Not sure if lp copies are available, anyway.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
Oh the second album is credited to just "Harvester," by the way.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
Harvester "Hemat" is a record I have been searching for for some time now! One of my most played CDs.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
Can someone help me find something that is not this when I search for International Harvester?
http://www.healthtrucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/International-Harvester.jpg
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
http://primitive-future.blogspot.com/2010/05/international-harvester-sov-gott-rose.html
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
:)))thankee!
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:19 (fourteen years ago)
it's an incredible record tbh, i think you'll love it.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
yup it's truly something else
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
i will report back once i listen to it!
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL-1AEYyw1k
― rip nyc chicken (am0n), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
Being is more than life, imo
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
http://thehornsoundingfaraway.blogspot.com/2010/05/2010-05-27-cca-glasgow-trad-gras-och.html
http://thehornsoundingfaraway.blogspot.com/2010/05/2010-04-28-cumberland-arms-newcastle.html
― rip nyc chicken (am0n), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
thanx amon.
tbh, that baby grandmothers record will never touch the harvester/trad gras stuff.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
^real talk
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMvPXOdJ2w4
― rip nyc chicken (am0n), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
ok i love this! the combo of song/incidental noises/birds is so dreamy.
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
whoa"i mourn you" is so good -- sounds like it's underwater, but it kinda reminds me of listening to unpracticed marching bands for some reasonoverall, A+ thank you!!
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
I am a huge Arbete och Fritid fan.Swedish prog folk^First (and maybe only?) ILM thread I started.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
listened to international harvester tonight and it is totally hypnoticlove
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 03:42 (fourteen years ago)
I binged on them after this thread revive.Gonna bring Parson Sound to the radio show tomorrow night.Check that one out, for real. It's got a cool radio session medley of It's Only Love->I Mourn You->Sov Gott Rose Marie.And two more hours of unbelievably great Swedish power drone psych wizardry.
That Swedish Prog Folk thread is totally not the only ILM thread I've started lol
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 04:03 (fourteen years ago)
I have no idea what took me so long, but I finally heard the Parson Sound s/t album. LOVE. I'll just repost what I said 7 mo ago:
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, July 7, 2011 1:51 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:40 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp6ldaGVjEY
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)
best track on their final lp imo.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:00 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnQgKjdwc9A
― Trip Maker, Saturday, 3 March 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)
i am listening to this ^^ right now in order to drown out my coworker's conversation. it's working!
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)
fuck, awful news. thomas mera gartz, the drummer from pärson sound and träd, gräs och stenar has died, just a couple of days ago. apparently he fell ill and was rushed to the hospital but died the following day, just like that. RIP.
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)
Oh, that's sad. RIP.
I just found this and it's really good -- long instrumental solo in the middle-end, as I had hoped. anyone heard his solo stuff? I never have (until today). kinda reminds me of bill fay?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukobdt7J-jM
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)
:(
― the endless white snow has never felt more textile (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)
aww damn. RIP. guy was a monster drummer.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)
Seconded
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)
RIP.
― C.C. Sabbathian of the Doom York Yankees (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 04:35 (thirteen years ago)
RIP, time to play the Parson Sound box
― sleeve, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)
shit i loved his drumming. he was the best part of seeing them live, very fluid.
― am0n, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)
his solo album was posted to mutant sounds apparentlyi can't check to see if the link still works b/c i am at work, but http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/05/thomas-mera-gartz-sngerlp1976sweden.html
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)
coooool, never heard that. link appears to still be functioning. i take it it's not available to buy?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)
I can't say, but I can now vouch for it being totally 100% worth checking out. Shamanjobbarens Sång may inspire some spontaneous folk dancing if played at the appropriate time during the course of an evening. As a whole, it's rather jubilant!
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 03:32 (thirteen years ago)
That's not to say that there aren't lots of contemplative moments too. There are, and freakouts too. It's v enjoyable!
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 03:36 (thirteen years ago)
never heard that, thanks
― am0n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)
i believe this was thomas mera gartz youtube channel, its got a lot of videos by him and featuring his musichttp://www.youtube.com/user/Meramorr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spvxUKZeibw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcRS587VN8
― am0n, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)
this has some early footage of live trad gras och stenar @ 1:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXqDKV4MOFA
― am0n, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)
Stephen Malkmus was given a live album with Träd Gräs och Stenar by some Swedish friends - and it knocked him off his feet.So when Malkmus appeared in Sweden for concerts in Stockholm and Gothenburg, he asked the old progg dudes if they wanted to be his support act. "Of course," they said.Sonic asked, of course, if Malkmus wanted to interview his Swedish heroes. "Sure," he said.Stephen Malkmus, former frontman of lo-fi pioneers and slacker kings Pavement, was amazed by Träd Gräs och Stenars progressive improvisations as soon as he heard them, on the album "Gärdet 06.12.1970”.- I've always liked groups like Velvet Underground and Can. And Trees, Grass and Stones sounds like a Velvet Underground with traditional Swedish tunes. Some of their stuff is just astonishing, he says.It's after the concert at the Göta Källare in Stockholm and in the provisory back stage area a quite peculiar combination of American indie rock musicians about thirty and Swedish prog veterans in their fifties are squeezed in.For Torbjörn Abelli, Jakob Sjöholm, Bo Anders Persson and Thomas Mera Gartz in Trees, Grass and Stones the gig was special. They had not been committed to an American artist/band since they were called International Harvester and played the support slot for The Doors Concert Hall in 1968.- The first time I heard about Stephen was when he talked about us in "Musikbyrån" about two years ago, says Torbjörn Abelli. I only have his latest album. First, I didn’t get it. The songs are so modest, it does not seem to matter if you play a bit off in terms of lo fi. But the album grows with each listening and now I love it.Malkmus smiles at the praise and seems to completely forget to live up to the media image of himself as a difficult and cool indie intellectual. Instead, he seems almost childishly delighted by the chance to interview his favorite Swedish band. Cause that's why we're here.A half-empty bottle of Finlandia is on the table, a few cans of Fanta is passed around, the tape’s rolling.Stephen Malkmus (SM): The live album from that concert you did outdoors, which was released on CD not long ago, there is a picture of a girl who does this (waving his arms). Who is it?Thomas Mera Gartz (TMG): That’s Sonja, used to be Bo Anders wife.SM: Did she live in your commune?TMG: Yes, Bo Anders had a little house in the south of Stockholm, where I and my girlfriend, he and his girlfriend and some other friends lived. And some other people.SM: You just hung out there, cultivating vegetables?TMG: Yes, but it was also a community characterized by music, art, literature and film.SM: Did you ever play music to the films?TMG: Absolutely, we even made our own movies.Bo Anders Persson (BAP): We used them when we jammed, Super 8 movies.TMG: We had a light show of slides and served food. People could use our instruments and we arranged a lot of happenings. We tried to live as our audience.SM: OK, which of you was in the group Harvester?TMG: I, Bo Anders and Torbjörn and a few others that we do not have contact with.SM: I have that album too. I got it from a guy in Malmö. It’s very expensive in the U.S., a real collector's item.TMG: (Laughs flattered) Harvester resembled Pärson Sound.SM: Yes, about the same guys playing in both groups, right? Pärson Sound sounded very primitive too, almost ancient.TMG: So you have an album of Pärson Sound?SM: I just got hold of it. Awesome. How was that thing with Jimi Hendrix? I've heard that you jammed with him.BAP: Yep, it was Thomas who did that.SM: Was he cool?TMG: Yeah, very. I was in a group called Mecki Mark Men in those days and we did some gigs with Jimi in Sweden. As a support act, of course. Off stage, he was very calm and relaxed. Jimi talked alot, especially at night.BAP: He played as effortless as we speak, it was as natural as birdsong.SM: Yeah.BAP: I remember one time. Jimi played under a remarkably beautiful, big, open sky and he looked up at it and ... it was like he disappeared off into the sky. He just flew away. Whoossshh!SM: Yeah. Well, what did you see in the Rolling Stones? You’ve done a few covers of their songs. One was "Satisfaction" and the other was "The Last Time." "The Last Time" is great.BAP: Nah, you know what, we probably shouldn’t have done that.SM: Was it the blues of the Rolling Stones music that appealed to you?TMG: Nah, it was their proletarian-rock'n'roll.SM: What?TMG: They made music for the working class.SM: Once upon a time, yes. But then they turned into something completely different.TMG: That is correct. But for a while their music was of the English working class and the Stones were more appealing than the Beatles art pop.SM: Do you like the Beatles now?TMG: Well, yes.BAP: There are many Beatles albums that just sweeps you away.TMG: But back then, at the time, I felt they were not for me.SM: I can see what you mean, but sometimes you're amazed at how much the Beatles could get out of a song.TMG: They were nice, wrote wonderful songs, but they lacked focus.SM: Did you ever tour abroad?TMG: We toured Scandinavia only. Denmark, Finland…Jakob Sjöholm (JS): But we toured a lot.SM: Oh, so you could make a living off your music?TMG: We tried. It worked occasionally but mostly we were very poor.BAP: But professional. Professional, poor people on the left. Poor lefties (laughs). We grew our own food that we took with us everywhere.SM: What did you grow? Beans?BAP: Beans, potatoes, onions, carrots ...TMG: Especially carrots. They are easy to grow.SM: What was it that made your commune fall apart? Was the food too bad?JS: (Laughs) No, the ideals faded away. This was around 1972.TMG: The political situation worsened and became more difficult to manage. Heroin and speed became more common, and it destroyed a lot. Police and drug pushers, that combination eventually became unsustainable. It was a disaster. The ”progg movement” also became more involved with populist tendencies in politics and eventually died out.SM: Hmm.BAP: I actually thought that your set was best in the beginning, when it was a bit more stripped down and simple.SM: Huh? Oh. Well, we went in and ran through some pop songs in the beginning after your experimental set. Four or five "ba-ba-ba"-songs for the kids you know.BAP: I think it saved the evening.SM: Oh, stop it, you got good response from the audience.BAP: You had a very nice attitude, but the bass was too loud. It erased the nuances and almost ruined the over all impression. Boom-boom-boom...SM: Blame it on the sound engineer.TMG: Your guitar playing was good.SM: Thank you. Some things are rehearsed, others I make up along the way. I don't care if I miss a note or two.TMG: The thick bass meant that I could not hear as much of your singing though.SM: It gets a little loud at times.TMG: In Sweden, your music’s usually called lo-fi.SM: Yeah. At least that’s what it was called when I was in Pavement. We recorded ourselves - without really knowing how it was supposed to be done - and apparently that became lo-fi. You really ought to come and play in the U.S., you would probably go down really well in New York.JS: Maybe we should, do you think it would work?SM: Sure.BAP: Nah, it's time to go home. My wife’s waiting. Do you know the way to dance the old Swedish folk dance ”polska”?SM: No.BAP: Then I'll show you how. Tomorrow.SM: Really looking forward to that. Rock on.
― am0n, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)
^that's niceJust listened to Mors Mors. Their cover of "The Last Time" is great.
― Trip Maker, Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)
It's unfortunate that it took his death to call my attention to his music, but I've listened to Thomas 'Mera' Gartz's album that I posted about upthread so much this year. It has brought me a lot of happiness. His vocals still remind me a lot of Bill Fay, but with a more ecstatic/joyful sound to the music and songs, generally speaking. Shamanjobbarens Sång only has 8 listeners on last.fm :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGTaPTSMOjI
― passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 17 December 2012 00:02 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=433399
― MaresNest, Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:08 (thirteen years ago)
Thomas Mera Gartz is one of the two drummers on the upcoming Fire! Orchestra album Exit! on Rune Grammofon. I think it might be his last recorded appearance. It's a great record, too; large-scale free jazz (31 people in all) meets Krautrock.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)
nuh uhthat sounds GREAT, can't wait to hear it. too bad he has to be dead :(
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)
thinkin about these guys today while i cleaned the kitchen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrkCgwtNtE4&feature=youtu.be
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Sunday, 27 July 2014 15:24 (eleven years ago)
hey i had a terrible/great idea yesterdayTG&S-esque cover of Don't Fear the Reaper -- slowed down, spaced out, -cowbell/+methomas mera gartz was really a fantastic drummer. RIP.
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 22:55 (eleven years ago)
i'd be down for that
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:03 (eleven years ago)
aaaaawesomei'll keep practicing it! i totally love their approach to classic songs
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:06 (eleven years ago)
hmmmhttp://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10246129_1634159286812134_1828689062_n.jpgposted on endless boogie's instagram acct
― tylerw, Monday, 19 January 2015 23:49 (eleven years ago)
just trying to imagine what they'd do with the mighty quinn (would love to hear this!)
― no lime tangier, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 01:18 (eleven years ago)
I know! Hard to imagine. Hopefully it is being prepped for release.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 02:42 (eleven years ago)
Seriously! I don't even like that song very much but this band slayed everything so
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 02:44 (eleven years ago)
holy guacamole!http://www.anthologyrecordings.com/albums/box-set/
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:19 (ten years ago)
That works!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:27 (ten years ago)
ugh just saw that the unreleased stuff will only be on the $$$$ vinyl set? UGH.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:52 (ten years ago)
that description makes no sense, refers both to 3xLP and 6xLP, refers to the unreleased one as a double so that would mean a 4LP set?!?!?
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:59 (ten years ago)
yeahhseems like it's Djungelns Lag = 2LPMors, Mors = 2LPKom Tillsammans = 2LP? and then the CD version is just Djungelns Lag + Mors, Mors?lamesville, I can't afford these vinyl box sets!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:03 (ten years ago)
Phil F. suggested that it means the vinyl set is the only way to get the unreleased stuff ON vinyl, whereas the CDs for each release will be sold separately. It is pretty damn strangely worded.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:03 (ten years ago)
hmm yeah maybe!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:07 (ten years ago)
Actually, I don't think the CDs will be individually packaged, either - I think it's just a 3CD set. I'm in, though. (I've emailed the label about getting an advance so I can pitch a review to The Wire, of course.)
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:29 (ten years ago)
that's fine - if it's a 3CD set w/ everything for $20, it's a steal.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:34 (ten years ago)
Absolutely. And I'm as excited about the remastered albums as the new material - my copies of those are MP3s sourced from old vinyl.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:40 (ten years ago)
that's fine - if it's a 3CD set w/ everything for $20, it's a steal
Completely agreed. Just finally got the Parson Sound comp properly a couple of months back as well.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:41 (ten years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftvzatGoytchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa3n02pNB-I
― am0n, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:51 (nine years ago)
neat!
― tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2016 23:21 (nine years ago)
Been making my way through the box for several days, off and on--so far (heard about 3/4), about an hour's worth really grabbed me, but the rest either starts well, then loses the momentum, or fades out too soon, or seems utterly predictable, in that jam band way, from any era--or just seems inconsequential, at least to non-specialist ears (that nevertheless have listened to lots and lots of jams, in my case). But I'll keep listening; it ain't painful (I've heard much, much worse).
― dow, Friday, 19 February 2016 23:33 (nine years ago)
^ i thought i was the only one
― nerve_pylon, Friday, 19 February 2016 23:40 (nine years ago)
cool, I can't afford that thing anyway
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Saturday, 20 February 2016 01:00 (nine years ago)
http://battellemedia.com/images/fox03f.jpg
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Saturday, 20 February 2016 01:01 (nine years ago)
cd version much more affordable, like $32 w shipping
― adam, Saturday, 20 February 2016 01:12 (nine years ago)
Is there anything on the box as good as this? Because this is all I've ever wanted / needed by *Trad Gras:
www.discogs.com/Träd-Gräs-Och-Stenar-Live-1972/release/1090659
*(International Harvester and Parson Sound is another matter)
― Wimmels, Saturday, 20 February 2016 02:35 (nine years ago)
i just bought the 3CD set from mexican summer/archive for 20 bucks. i felt like that was the nice price. the two 2-album sets are almost 30 each and the box is like 80 bucks. viva CD!
― scott seward, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:20 (nine years ago)
with u my man
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Friday, 8 April 2016 15:20 (nine years ago)
huzzah for cheap compact discs! can't wait to grab this one.
― tylerw, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:21 (nine years ago)
mine is in "the post" as the european shipping confirmation email said
― adam, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:37 (nine years ago)
I guess CD version has like 30 minutes less of music than the LPs/mp3s, but otherwise CD is a steal.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:01 (nine years ago)
Yeah, I was wondering about this - the publicist sent me the full digital package, but it would have been a 4CD set for sure if everything was available physically.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)
Yeah it's a little bummer that CD loses out on the 17 minute version of "The Last Time", but nearly four hours seems like plenty of music to me.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:34 (nine years ago)
does the LP set have split tracks (i.e spread over 2 sides) like the Parson Sound 3LP?
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:37 (nine years ago)
It does.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:31 (nine years ago)
thanks, I hate that
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:37 (nine years ago)
Did that extended Last Time already appear as bonus material on a previous version of Mors Mors? Cos I think I have at least one extended version of it. Not sure where my cd is though.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:47 (nine years ago)
i think the 3CD thing will be plenty of jammage for me.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 19:08 (nine years ago)
apologies if this has been covered already but is the sound better on the CDs?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 9 April 2016 19:50 (nine years ago)
The remastering of the old albums definitely improves the sound where it's possible to improve it - however, some of the recordings are barely above bootleg quality, and always were, so you get what you were gonna get there.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 9 April 2016 19:59 (nine years ago)
True. Sound quality of the promo digital is very reasonable considering the sources. Music quality, like I said upthread: less could def be more. But it's good to be able to choose your own keepers and sell the originals (not xpost $80-worth good though; jeez)
― dow, Saturday, 9 April 2016 21:53 (nine years ago)
i know totally sane people who absolutely WORSHIP these people. a lot of freaky musicians i know, for instance.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:04 (nine years ago)
thanks, this is what i expectedhowever, some of the recordings are barely above bootleg quality, and always were, so you get what you were gonna get there.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 10 April 2016 01:40 (nine years ago)
xpost Scott (but also applies to sound quality discussion) No doubt, and everybody should enjoy as much of it (and a lot of other things)as they can, for as long as they can. (PS: by "the originals," I meant purchases, not trying to do anything with the promo downloads)
― dow, Sunday, 10 April 2016 01:43 (nine years ago)
this 3CD thing is packed with so many jams.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:02 (nine years ago)
i know i already asked about the sound quality but
can someone who has heard these CDs tell me specifically if the drums are more audible?i like to play along with this band sometimes and usually when i play with a recording, i can easily hear distinctions between what i'm playing and what is on the recording* but with their songs (and international harvester in partic) i can't. either i am the second coming of thomas 'mera' gartz (extremely unlikely) or the drums are barely audible
*first, i am not that good and second, sometimes i like to play a differently accented beat
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:25 (nine years ago)
i'm about 2/3 through and the drums are definitely audible. sound quality is better than i expected, really! seriously it is great -- definitely worth the $20.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:27 (nine years ago)
yeah, the CDs sounded good to me. i'm glad they had the option. get a little bummed when there is no normal option and only some extra-deluxe thing.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:30 (nine years ago)
ok thank yousold!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:30 (nine years ago)
vinyl box is sold out, i think. but the cd set and the individual albums still available.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:35 (nine years ago)
CD set is better for driving purposes
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:36 (nine years ago)
and as noted, like $60 cheaper
a thousand boxed sets. that's impressive. they are already going for more than retail online.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:38 (nine years ago)
yeah the CD box is amazing, sounds great, total jams, highly recommended
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 04:13 (nine years ago)
Well I didn't expect this but just announced:
http://forcedexposure.com/Catalog/trad-gras-och-stenar-tack-for-kaffet-thanks-for-the-coffee-cd/SUBL.119CD.html
The long-awaited new album from the legendary pioneers of transcendental psychedelic rock music and DIY culture in general. Tack För Kaffet (Thanks For The Coffee) is a tribute to the deceased band members and dearest friends Torbjörn Abelli and Thomas Mera Gartz. It becomes something of a farewell show for the old Träd, Gräs Och Stenar because all the old and new members, including founder Bo Anders, Torbjörn and Mera, and Reine Fiske (Dungen, The Amazing), are all contributing to this album. The sounds were captured on tape in their music workshop in the countryside and consists mainly of improvised moments where the sounds travels beyond time and space, something that has been TGS hallmark over the years. Perhaps there's a form of melancholy over some of the album, much depending on how cruelly and suddenly Mera and Torbjörn passed away, but also on a little lighter and crazier whim. Everything is recorded live so there are no euphemistic circumstances, rather everything is pared down, bared bone drones, sounds traveling in the magical improvised unknown with no makeup, just as life can be when the feeling has control. A manifestation of improvised timelessly organic music and free creation. Real life!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 April 2017 15:51 (eight years ago)
hell yeah
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 7 April 2017 18:32 (eight years ago)
Wow, I'm quoted in the PR email (from my AMG review of their last album, from 2009).
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 7 April 2017 18:44 (eight years ago)
guess whati played three versions of "all along the watchtower" (dylan, hendrix, these guys) for my students and which one did they like the best? this one!! they said it sounded "like it was supposed to" (dirgey?) and one student wisely noted, after i told her what the band's name translated to, that it sounded "earthy"
even the 20 year old liked it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmrql7Zhg-c
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 12:49 (seven years ago)
the kids are alright
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 13:12 (seven years ago)
uh i just saw this in my "early warnings" email from my trusty local weekly and now i wonder who their new drummer will be?! are they really touring the USA?!
Träd Gräs och Stenar, Endless Boogie When: Thu., Oct. 4, 9 p.m.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:07 (seven years ago)
plying nyc too.
i fuckin caved and bought the international harvester box which is v spendy but also v awesome
― adam, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:45 (seven years ago)
is that box on CD yet?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:51 (seven years ago)
current version of the band features Jakob Sjöholm, Reine Fiske (of Dungen fame), and Sigge Krantz on bass and Hanna Österberg on drums.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:22 (seven years ago)
iiiiiiiiinterestingi already put it on my calendar, who am i kidding
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:23 (seven years ago)
yeah i'm sure it'll be a blast, even if it's not exactly OG TGOS. and endless boogie for god's sake! which band will be able to ride one riff for the longest!!!???
― tylerw, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)
will i get a seat at the show that is the question
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:29 (seven years ago)
So, saw Trad Gras (and Endless Boogie) Friday night, both opening for Ryley Walker, good night all around. To answer tylerw's question just above, Endless Boogie did two songs...but one was very long. So there's your answer!
Anyway, seeing Trad Gras was kinda like seeing faUSt earlier this summer -- it may be down to one last original member, but it was a way of capturing the spirit and keeping it going, as Reine Fiske said briefly towards the end of the set, and Sigge's presence is its own continuity at this point. Would have been great if I could have seen them in earlier years of the reunion but I was awfully glad to see this, the performances were strong and I was very much in the mood. Glad to have caught them.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
have been listening to the new record traden a lot last month or so. it's excellent! "tamburan".... mmm. getting excited to see them later this week!
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 05:06 (seven years ago)
man, they were really great last night. everyone locked into this beautiful, fluid sound. loved it.
thought their current drummer hanna was particularly good. her heavy, lumbering playing driving things forward. perfectly complimented the rest of the band.
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Saturday, 29 September 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)
finally got the träden record months after seeing them with endless boogie, and just here to say how good it is.
― dronestreet, Sunday, 20 January 2019 20:47 (seven years ago)
i hadn't listened to the new träden until a couple weeks ago and uhhh yeah it is amazing!
― tylerw, Sunday, 20 January 2019 20:50 (seven years ago)
I didn't know this band, but they are playing Marfa Myths in April and after listening to Träden I am v. excited to see them play live!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 14 February 2019 17:56 (six years ago)
nice! you will enjoy -- and if you do there is a lot more where that came from!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:20 (six years ago)
Awww man I missed they had a new album???
― aquaman goes to college (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:52 (six years ago)
it's really good!
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:59 (six years ago)
I'll give it a listen this weekend!
― aquaman goes to college (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 14 February 2019 22:01 (six years ago)
The old speakers of Träd, Gräs och Stenar is up for sale on Swedish eBay. Hand built and just simply beautiful. A work of art! pic.twitter.com/2KJCZwVZLs— Beta Max (@rhizome_in_) June 4, 2022
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 4 June 2022 08:56 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SXOItN8zEw
― MaresNest, Monday, 5 June 2023 20:57 (two years ago)
The band's oral history book is out now in English, so I made it and them the subject of this week's Substack newsletter.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 16:53 (two years ago)
thank you for pointing this out; book looks great. hopefully my family also reads burning ambulance and are getting some good ideas for christmas presents
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:17 (two years ago)
this revive has made me realize that I can buy the LP-only tracks from that huge live box digitally via Bandcamp, hell yeah
I think there are even another two tracks that are digital-only? https://tradgrasochstenar.bandcamp.com/album/tr-d-gr-s-och-stenar
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:27 (two years ago)
Hoping my book gets here soon.
On another note, does anyone know anything about the label Arcangelo? Amazon shows listings for three upcoming releases from International Harvester on the label - Remains 1, Remains 2 and Remains 3. Looks like a CD reissue of the Remains box set, but weird that it's broken into three discs @ $32 each.
https://www.amazon.com/Remains-2-International-Harvester/dp/B0CL4L21FB
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 15:30 (two years ago)
Ordered my book the other day, very happy for that!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 16:19 (two years ago)
Discogs says Arcangelo is a Japanese label specializing in prog reissues and archival stuff, so this could be a legit license (and could explain the price).
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 16:40 (two years ago)
Thanks, just curious. I've been hoping that would get a CD reissue at some point.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 16:41 (two years ago)
Me, too, since there was never any digital version at all — the files I downloaded have (very mild) vinyl crackle because they come from someone ripping their (presumably brand-new at the time) LPs.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 16:51 (two years ago)
Recorded over their two day residency, 9.9.16 spans the pastoral, the brooding, and the free-form progg moments of Trad Gras in one oozing zip folder. Their seemingly endless, bucolic bass lines and humble DIY approach create an ever expanding atmosphere of good will - these are surely the nicest guys in rock? The opening 'track' is a 25 minute wigged out version of Harvester's 'När Lingonen Mognar', and 'Stina' is a never before recorded folk-rock track written by the band's close friend Mats G Bengtsson. Spread the word my friends. Reine Fiske / guitar, vocalsSigge Krantz / bass, vocalsTom Watts / drumsJakob Sjöholm / guitar, vocalTracklisting:1. När Lingonen Mognar - 24:182. Kaffe med Tårta - 12:523. Down in the Basement - 11:07 4. Stina - 7:125. Sommarlåten - 13:54 6. Silverffloden - 11:39Recorded live at Cafe OTO on the 9th and 10th of September, 2016 by Simon Holliday and Shaun Crook.
Reine Fiske / guitar, vocalsSigge Krantz / bass, vocalsTom Watts / drumsJakob Sjöholm / guitar, vocal
Tracklisting:
1. När Lingonen Mognar - 24:182. Kaffe med Tårta - 12:523. Down in the Basement - 11:07 4. Stina - 7:125. Sommarlåten - 13:54 6. Silverffloden - 11:39
Recorded live at Cafe OTO on the 9th and 10th of September, 2016 by Simon Holliday and Shaun Crook.
https://www.cafeoto.co.uk/shop/trad-gras-och-stenar-9916/
― Barnaby, Hardly, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 07:45 (two years ago)