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pretty good

'playhouses' is great

― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Better than the last record. It is their 'Pet Sounds.'

― ng-unit, Friday, 24 February 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

This is the thread where we do not ask for a YSI, just to prove we can.

xpost.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

what is the source of the album title?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Release Date 21/4/06

Tracklisting

01 "Playhouses"
02 "I Was A Lover"
03 "Province"
04 "Snakes + Martyrs"
05 "Wolf Like Me"
06 "Tonight"
07 "Dirty Whirlwind"
08 "A Method"
09 "Let The Devil In"
10 "Blues From Down Here"
11 "Wash The Day Away"

http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=73376&st=0

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)

can anyone confirm the album title?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:27 (twenty years ago)

The album title is confirmed.

― ng-unit, Friday, 24 February 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

where ? on da web

link please

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)

TRUST ME.

― ng-unit, Friday, 24 February 2006 16:58 (twenty years ago)

where has an album title actually been named on this thread? i just see the name of the first song in the q

― marc h. (marc h.), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Don't be so lazy, DJ Martian: http://www.beggarsgroup.de/dates/

― ng-unit, Friday, 24 February 2006 17:01 (twenty years ago)

― marc h. (marc h.), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:02 (twenty years ago)

has their sound developed more? because if it hasn't, then it's guaranteed to be booooooooorrrrrriiiiinnnggggg.

― trees (treesessplode), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:04 (twenty years ago)

If boring is a new was of saying amazing, sure.

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Trees speaks wisdom.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I hear they're all Four Seasons covers.

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Not to be all scenester-as-fuck, but i walked past Sitek's studio a couple times when they were working on it. Heard some flutes. Heard some strings I think. Heard lots of cool noises that gave me pause.

Should be a fucking beast.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:13 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.kompaktkiste.de/cd/virgin/pgcd7.jpg

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

I've just heard it once, but it seems this is the record I was hoping from them after the Young Liars EP.

― snowballing (snowballing), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

I searched 4ad website, official TVonthe Radio website, HMV, Amazon, Google News...hardly lazy

so it's:
Return To Cookie Mountain

as mentioned on atease thread

Sounds like something from Seasame Street

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I was just bustin' yer balls, DJ Martian. Did you like the illustrative animation on the band's site?

― ng-unit, Friday, 24 February 2006 17:24 (twenty years ago)

it was a good gimmick to get email sign ups, but I want official announcements !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3100/cookiemonsterabusingcookiedoug1.png

A new TVoTR can not come fast enough for some of us.

― ng-unit, Friday, 24 February 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

expect pitchfork to report this news..soon?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)

wait....so...it's leaked right?

― dfv,jh, Friday, 24 February 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

the words leaked or leak are banned from ILM

remember:

repect the artists music

campaign for clear channel to change their music policy, put in me charge of music programming

Get rid of the RIAA sez Brainwashed

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 24 February 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

respect

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 24 February 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

i'm holding my tongue about how even the idea of this drains all my energy. i hope i don't have to hear the actual album.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 24 February 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

DJ Martian you should make a list

― midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 24 February 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

I hope it sounds like "Ambulance" to the n-th degree! And not all the songs have to be a capella.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 24 February 2006 18:49 (twenty years ago)

I heard a song of theirs some time ago. Didn't like it. Then I missed a concert I was going to and ended up watching them play two songs somewhere else. Wasn't very pleased. And now everyone seems to be in love with them.
Did NME say something or what?

― Caroline loves stars, Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:47 (twenty years ago)

Some of us loved them as soon as we heard them.

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Saturday, 25 February 2006 01:06 (twenty years ago)

+ winners of the shortlist prize

+
number 1 album of 2004 on fast 'n' bulbous
http://www.fastnbulbous.com/rock.htm

2004

1. 9+ TV On The Radio * Desperate Youth, Blood Thirsty Babes (Touch & Go)

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 25 February 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)

Brian O'Neill singlehandedly placed the record at #12 on the Pazz and Jop list that year. :)

― ng-unit, Saturday, 25 February 2006 02:40 (twenty years ago)

Is this the final mix? sounds unmastered at best.

― amethystflower, Saturday, 25 February 2006 16:33 (twenty years ago)

I know no one likes it when people ask (and I'm not looking for a ysi), but is OINK the only place where one can get this? Soulseek has one dude that I can find and I've been in line for 24 hours and it keeps dropping back.

― Blathering, Saturday, 25 February 2006 21:32 (twenty years ago)

i like them a lot, I'm surprised they're at all popular though. good for them, i guess (except for the backlash they're getting now).

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 25 February 2006 21:52 (twenty years ago)

"Playhouses" = blue balls
Holy fuck.

― juno crunch, Sunday, 26 February 2006 04:24 (twenty years ago)

anticipating v highly, I love this band..

― dar1a g (daria g), Sunday, 26 February 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)

i love dybb. nice record.

― Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Sunday, 26 February 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)

You can really taste the masterpiece...but this one stumbles. Playhouses is brilliant. In general, needs more vocal layers to create some sort of equilibrium with the wall of brilliant noise put down by Sitek. It's amazing to listen to, but I need more vocal layers. TV on the Radio is nothing without the sensous vocal work. Sculpture, folks...

― marybeth, Sunday, 26 February 2006 04:40 (twenty years ago)

Final product is going to blow minds. The next Loveless.

― amazona, Sunday, 26 February 2006 04:53 (twenty years ago)

when people describe them it usually sounds pretty good, but when i listen i hear a more pretentious less talented equally as dramatic peter gabriel. its frustrating. i'd like some ysi's tho.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:02 (twenty years ago)

Final product is going to blow minds. The next Loveless

Nice try.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:03 (twenty years ago)

A Method is pretty amazing. Someone above said Pet Sounds. Production is pretty strong. Gonna be a good year with this, Danielson, and Destoyer.

― michelleman, Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:10 (twenty years ago)

So true, Ned. Loveless is nothing compated to this one. Can't wait for the final mix. Young Liars EP production values + return to cookie mounain poorly mixed leak = WTF mind blower!

― eriksmothers, Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:46 (twenty years ago)

Your excitement over some of the most boring music ever heard amuses me to no end.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:49 (twenty years ago)

It doesn't sound all that "unmastered" to me. Different from the other records, production-wise, but not necessarily unmastered. I could of course be utterly wrong.

― Simon H. (Simon H.), Sunday, 26 February 2006 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I second Ned. Boring.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Sunday, 26 February 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

The white guy in TVotR looks like he says 'yo' a lot.

― Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Sunday, 26 February 2006 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Danielson Famille? Destroyer? TV on the Radio? It seems like some people on this board haven't realized that it's February 2006 and not late 2003/early 2004. How do you get so excited by this shit? Do you all write for Rolling Stone or something?

― trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 26 February 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I agree that the vocals could be mixed better, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's unmastered.

This album has the atmospheric quality that Desperate Youth was missing, which I think automatically makes it better.

― bill neil (inabillity), Sunday, 26 February 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

"when people describe them it usually sounds pretty good, but when i listen i hear a more pretentious less talented equally as dramatic peter gabriel."

I kinda thought this at first but their live show converted me. I'm interested to hear the new one.

― Renard (Renard), Sunday, 26 February 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

seems like some people on this board haven't realized that it's February 2006 and not late 2003/early 2004. How do you get so excited by this shit? Do you all write for Rolling Stone or something?

Yeah, that's just crazy. I mean how dare any of us follow a band for longer than the promotional cycle of a single album!!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 27 February 2006 05:03 (twenty years ago)

Weird. Uh, I like the music? There aren't a lot of new records that I've liked in the past few years. I try not to just post on ILM for the sake of bitching, though, so if a thread comes up on a band I like, I'll say something.

― dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 27 February 2006 05:43 (twenty years ago)

http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0OJSSGZOXJS5H1F9PLYMJFUBMP

― leaker, Monday, 27 February 2006 08:56 (twenty years ago)

Seriously trees, that was a really arrogant post. What music stimulates you?

― Patrick South (Patrick South), Monday, 27 February 2006 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Your comment is sooo mid 1994, trees.

― snowballing (snowballing), Monday, 27 February 2006 10:10 (twenty years ago)

New seems to turn out easier accessible than Desperate Youth...... that doesn't necessarily mean anything good, especially for a band that always seemed to me to be capable to create their own island to stand on, and, damn, you're right that Peter Gabriel reference is a stick in the eye (yet you could replace Peter Gabriel with Can who harvested the same world music ground and had to face the same exotistic hippie shit demons (only with other consequences)). I particularily miss that universal Hotblack-Desiato-feeling of the last record. I dearly hope there will be a final mix and that it bursts with all those trendy space sounds i'm so addicted to, just to have some record to dig for the moment and hate next year (see: The Knife) - after all that is what a large portion of pop is about.

I'm going to regret this.

― b0ring, Monday, 27 February 2006 13:17 (twenty years ago)

yeah trees, how dare you fly in the face of officially sanctioned above-the-line hype tsunami TM?

this record is like the bastard child of Loveless, Pet Sounds, Astral Weeks and Dark Side Of The Moon...On ACID!

this band is so Great i've had to re-calibrate my Awesometer!

― john clarkson, Monday, 27 February 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)

your awesometer is broken

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 27 February 2006 14:30 (twenty years ago)

"I was a lover" is pretty amazing, at least as good as anything on the first record.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:47 (twenty years ago)

I've never understood the Peter Gabriel comparisons with this band.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Admittedly, I was being arrogant, but all of this hype over TVotR's new thing is just kind of silly-- if their sound is the same (as I posted before) as it was on Desperate Youth, then I think it'll be boring. No evolution=no respect from trees.

― trees (treesessplode), Monday, 27 February 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

peter gabriel --> vocal style at the beginning of Staring at the Sun

plus other parts that sound like that part, plus general proggy tendencies

or at least, that's what I think people mean when they make that comparison

― Renard (Renard), Monday, 27 February 2006 17:40 (twenty years ago)

it's really the vocals. Similar leaps to falsetto, regality, phallic imagery.

― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 27 February 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)

yeah

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 27 February 2006 18:09 (twenty years ago)

its in the music too, but it wouldnt' be as apparent w/o the singer doing what he's doing throughout every song - not just Staring at the Sun.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 27 February 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I know it is elsewhere besides that song, I just thought that was the most easily recognizable example

― Renard (Renard), Monday, 27 February 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

I wish whoever does their production would go off on his own and either do instrumental stuff or underground hip hop production. This band's vocals are painfully bad. I don't understand the appeal at all, beyond some of the production. The only song I actually like the vox on is Young Liars.

― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Monday, 27 February 2006 18:59 (twenty years ago)

The vocals sound like Gary Numan to me on a few tracks. "Snakes and Martyrs" is pure "Down in the Park"!!!

― Patrick South (Patrick South), Monday, 27 February 2006 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Dry Drunk Emperor ..the free TVontheRadio mp3 download from last year

sounded like a.r.kane meets the Beta Band

the production also reminds me of early Tricky

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 27 February 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)

i hear pitchfork is gonna give it a 10.0.

― pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Monday, 27 February 2006 19:37 (twenty years ago)

i like the vocals but then i like peter gabriel too.

the second song on here is awesome.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 27 February 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

And it's going to be on Interscope.

― Binjominia (Brilhante), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:09 (twenty years ago)

i'm just quietly looking forward to it. that's all. nothing to see here. move along now.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:53 (twenty years ago)

Is it me, or was Bloodthirsty babes such an incredible letdown after the EP?

― Antonio Depietro, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 01:01 (twenty years ago)

I think that Peter Gabriel comparision fits the new one better. Kind of. It's like an "Aw, forget it, they'll get what they wanted". I said i was going to regret this. And i'm still all pro Desperate Youth..., because that's the record that gave me the urge to listen to it again and again while i never listened to the ep a third time once i took it home to me and felt assured that it was certainly of some quality.

― b0ring, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 01:49 (twenty years ago)

I see the new record has now been leaked to Usenet.

― doug watson (solid air), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)

"Is it me, or was Bloodthirsty babes such an incredible letdown after the EP?"

You're not alone, I also think Bloodthirsty sounded like some bad outtakes from the ep.

― snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:14 (twenty years ago)

"Blood Thirsty" plz (still so lame!) and yeah it's almost like they knew they couldn't bring more heat after the EP, so they threw a curveball instead

― marc h. (marc h.), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

wow, the TVOTR hate on ILX never ceases to amaze me

― fuxor, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

cf. Fiery Furnaces love

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

the new album is solid. better than "blood thirsty". not as good as the ep.

― John Jacob, Friday, 3 March 2006 02:11 (twenty years ago)

seriously, ILX is a bunch of fucking TVOTR haters
this group is the most exciting band of the past five years
this new album is fucking insanely briiliant

― woweezowee, Friday, 3 March 2006 12:30 (twenty years ago)

pro tvotr: me, kyle, brian o'neill, toaster, harvell

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 3 March 2006 12:52 (twenty years ago)

i think most of you dont know what to do if the band doesnt scream the last verse after the second chorus so you know the song is going to end. tvotr is never going to fill the space in your black heart that pines away for a libertines reunion. work your way backwards, using cynicism! what a bunch of lonely unsuccessful guitar players ! ha. btw TVOTR is original , so stay away from it SHEEP !

― darkerlander, Monday, 6 March 2006 10:00 (twenty years ago)

seriously, ILX is a bunch of fucking TVOTR haters

seriously, TVOTR fans are a bunch of fucking knobs.

I don't love the band, thought the ep lacked a lot besides "Staring at the Sun," and the first lp had nothing to offer at all. So it's really surprising how good the new lp is. Don't ruin this for me, stupid TVOTR fans. Growing to hate bands on the basis of their shithead fans has happened before.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, please Johnny, don't hate it because of us! What will the great TVotR machine do without you?

― js (honestengine), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:52 (twenty years ago)

I reserve the right to be bored by this group. Still, that EP is something amazing.

― jedidiah s. (jedidiah s), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:03 (twenty years ago)

It's like This Heat crossed with Beck!

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 07:24 (twenty years ago)

Growing to hate bands on the basis of their shithead fans has happened before.

Self important much? good lord.

― dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

hmmm
the production on this isnt as dense or interesting or futuristic as their previous stuff
it has a much more normal live sound
thats dissapointing
damn it

― hmmmhmmmhmm, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

"i think most of you dont know what to do if the band doesnt scream the last verse after the second chorus so you know the song is going to end. tvotr is never going to fill the space in your black heart that pines away for a libertines reunion. work your way backwards, using cynicism! what a bunch of lonely unsuccessful guitar players ! ha. btw TVOTR is original , so stay away from it SHEEP !"

that's amazing, for real, in how interchangeable it is with almost any random offensive defense of the dave matthews band on that epic thread. maybe there's something about a certain sound (what would that sound be?) that attracts shallowness and defensiveness, and repels people who don't want to be around shallowness and defensiveness

― mr. greaves, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:00 (twenty years ago)

'Return To Cookie Mountain' is going to be an excellent album. The production needs a bit of tweaking but the songs are stronger than on 'Desperate Youth...' and there's definitely a warmer, more engaging and less distant vibe going on than on 'Desperate Youth...'. Maybe a little too early to tell but album of the year? Oh god, I can't believe I just said that. I need a shower now to wash off the stink of ridiculous hyperbole.

By the way, Trees, I detest Bright Eyes fans due to seeing him live last year and getting dirty looks and being shushed everytime I thought of asking my friend whether he wanted a beer. This aside, I actually quite like the little fucker.

― yer mam! (yer mam!), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

yeah the production does need some work - im hoping the version thats leaked isnt the finished one
the songs ARE more immediate but i didnt mind the moodier downbeat vibe of the young liars and desperate youth stuff

― hmmhmhmhm, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Self important much? good lord.

-- dar1a g (dar1a_...), March 7th, 2006 10:45 AM. (daria g) (link)

Only online.

But this wasn't even one of those cases. It was a backhanded plea for the knobs whining all over this thread about people missing out on the genius of TVOTR to not ruin this experience of actually liking one of the band's albums for me.

Hmm, maybe my desire to live in a world without being bothered is self important. So be it.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:36 (twenty years ago)

If stuff on the Internet bothers you, turn off your computer! Simple. That would stop it from bothering you.

I'm just trying to figure out the thought process.. "hmm.. these random strangers on the Internet are all knobs, I hate them, they like this band, that means they're whining, and I'm reading it and they're going to make me hate this record! STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD"

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 03:38 (twenty years ago)

STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Who brought Metric into this?

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:00 (twenty years ago)

I turn off the Internet when I turn on my Interpod.

― nancyboy (nancyboy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:00 (twenty years ago)

somehow ended up seeing this lot live the other day! um they sounded like dalek. "whoooa skyscraper guitar i am endlessly fascinated!" they were ok when the singer hit some 80s vibe, but boring indeed yeah

― rtcotm (mwah), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:41 (twenty years ago)

apparently this isnt being released until june! im guessing theyre going to rework it between now and then.. then again there might not be much change - the songs sound quite complete really. which is a shame, i hope they do improve the production

― insider, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

They must have heard the lukewarm reaction on ILM!

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:13 (twenty years ago)

I have the album and its fucking great

― DJ sjadow, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:39 (twenty years ago)

touring with bauhaus and nine inch nails

― jeff rosenberg (pukeandburn), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:42 (twenty years ago)

I just want to say that i also think they are an exciting band - they just haven't made a great album yet. From what I've heard of the new stuff, it sounds promising. Looking forward to the new Fiery Furnaces,too!

― Antonio Depietro, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no, are TVOTR going to do their own tour after that? I'm not wanting to pay the $$$ and deal with the giant venue. Well, maybe I will, I've never seen Bauhaus, that could be a treat..

― dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

that is the weirdest bill ever

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

― regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

I deleted it from my hard drive. I don't have time to deal with this shit when I'm in the middle of discovering the actual Loveless. multiple xposts

― regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

i need to listen to it more but so far, i'm digging this a whole bunch

― micarl (micarl), Saturday, 18 March 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

"the actual Loveless"? Did they finally unearth the tapes with the actual vocals instead of the scratch tracks that got released?

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, 18 March 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

this new album kinda sucks
pretty boring
saw them live recently and they were pretty boring there too

― ppp, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Playhouses
I was a lover
Snakes and Martyrs
Dirty Whirlwind
Blues From Down Here
Wash the Day Away

would make for an excellent ep.

― brown nose (micarl), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

the problem with the last album is that it would have made a great EP but as an album had too many so-so songs as it went on. this new one is nowhere near as interesting sonically as the last one though, in spite of its flaws. im dissapointed. as someone said upthread, more sculpture please.

― ppp, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I interviewed TVOTR shortly after their young liars ep was released, and they had just formed their band and added vocals. They had just returned from dates in Europe where they had all of their electronic equipment squashed in transit. This thrusted them to quickly put together their band in support of their then signing to touch n go. At the time they were very excited to sign to tng. With the release of bloodthirsty lovers, the album and live performances were obviously a new formulation of what would become their future recorded and newly rehearsed live sound. With the upcoming release of (I'll go along and call it) return to cookie mountain, TVOTR have put together an album that is both sonically brilliant, while avoiding the considerable traps of a sophmore effort from up and coming indie artists. In short, like it or not, this album has managed to refine the efforts of the first ep, and return with a fully fleshed album that expresses the creative abilities of all members of the group while still furthering a new creative identity that stands alone against the predictable results of cousin artists the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. These two artists can be traced through their success with obvious sensational responses for the Yeah Yeah Yeahs while some have deemed TVOTR to be overrated mimics of Peter Gabriel with Bad Brains as his back up band. Either way, I predict that TVOTR is going to have a longer climb of success with broader expressions of creativity from its primary members, where as the best promises of the YYY's future will come with a band divide and a Karen O solo career quietly forgotten by 2008.

― justin starr, Monday, 27 March 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

the best promises of the YYY's future will come with a band divide and a Karen O solo career quietly forgotten by 2008.

BLASPHEMER!!!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

justin, are you the press release writer for TVOTR by any chance?

― mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 27 March 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

justin, you didnt even get their first albums name right and the point is that that very album was STILL very electronic based. this new one, fucking sucks. it sounds like some bad 80s band.

― okok, Monday, 27 March 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

This is a great album filled with quality songs and interesting sounds that are pleasing to my ears. It isn't the new Loveless and it certainly isn't their Pet Sounds, it's TV on the Radio's second album. Their career is just getting started, don't go hyping it up as something on par with Pet Sounds. It's a great album, but only time will tell if it's a classic. The music snob naysayers trying to be hipper than everyone else by not liking TV on the Radio, grow up and stop hating bands just because other people like them. The people overhyping it, please realize you're just setting other people up for disappointment when they listen and find that it's not the new Loveless and that nothing ever will be the new Loveless. Everyone whether you like the songs or not should at least be happy that there's a band that's doing their own thing and making original music that doesn't fit into some lame trend (garage rock, dance punk, Duran Duran rip off bands)

― spaceman, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

when did ILM get taken over by MORMONS?

― marc h. (marc h.), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

well i think the proper version has leaked now. cant say its bowled me over. seems kinda overlaboured, overproduced, and yet, strangely standard sounding for them. personally, i liked them for sounding electronic, this time they sound just like another band, albeit a slightly weird one.

― okok, Sunday, 21 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

[img]http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000FG82KO.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg[/img]

― wireless, Sunday, 21 May 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

ooops, i didnt realise there was another thread about this album before i made mine.

― splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 21 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

― wireless, Sunday, 21 May 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

― wireless, Sunday, 21 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

needs more cookies

― a.b. (alanbanana), Sunday, 21 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

no sir, i don't like it. i like the bird's nest, but the font is terrible. where are the cookies?

man, i thought the leaked, supposedly pre-mastering stuff was excellent. i didn't see it needing much more tweaking. is there a release date set now?

― Emily B (Emily B), Monday, 22 May 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

where's the mountain? where's the 'return' also? it doesn't make sense. perhaps there'll be a cookie theme in the video - I for one certainly hope so.

i was very disappointed to find that there weren't any 'desperate babes' on their last album cover, or 'bloodthirsty youths' for that matter.

come on TVOTR, pull your socks up!

― beeble, Monday, 22 May 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

im happy with this album, never quite saw what the hype was with the last album or ep, this one has a lot more power. its more muscular, more rock overall. they sound like a proper band too, its got a lot more ooomph.

― beedlebum, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

that is the weirdest bill ever
-- kyle (akmonda...), March 15th, 2006 11:46 PM.

Mind you, they're opening for Massive Attack at the Hollywood Bowl... (and yes, I have tickets).

― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

anyone else think the cover looks like something out of the liners for doolittle?

― Ross G. (scatter), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

It's 4AD cubed, yes.

― Cracks (Crackity), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's just the font for "Return to Cookie Album", mainly. It looks like the same used for Doolittle.

― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

after reading the stylusarticle on compression, i am wondering if this is a problem with this album. it all seems a bit too loud.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

is this out yet?

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

i think the vocals sound like creed vocals

― boonah (boonah), Friday, 16 June 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

some of the vocals sound horrible

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 17 June 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

a lot of this album sounds horrible

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 17 June 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

don't get it.

― kevin barking (arghargh), Saturday, 17 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

i'm just wondering what the problem was in the first place. i listened to the leaked tracks on both headphones, car stereo and home strereo, and they all sounded fantastic. what needed to change?

― Emily B (Emily B), Saturday, 17 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

pre-backlash backlash zuh?

― marc h. (marc h.), Saturday, 17 June 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

So I downloaded a version back in March, and I enjoy it. Is there a different version out? Looking on Oink, there only seems to be one version on there. I feel dumb right now.

― Jouster (Jouster), Sunday, 18 June 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone have a definite tracklisting for this?

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

yes, 4ad:
http://www.4ad.com/releases/return-to-cookie-mountain/

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 18 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm. Its alright, but wishes they'd have gone down a firmer "tunes" route or a firmer "avant-electro" type route, rather than this kind-of rock one. "I was a lover" and "Playhouses" are ace tho....

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000029FW.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― a.b. (alanbanana), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

wowzers

― lf (lfam), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

that album cover scared me as a child. no joke. kenny loggins terrified me. something about the beard? i dunno.

― Emily B (Emily B), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

That's an amazing cover! Where's the yacht?

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

the guardian likes it cos theyre not too experimental anymore.
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/reviews/story/0,,1808808,00.html?gusrc=rss

i like it more now. its very good.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

that guardian review was a strange 'un. "desperate youth" is not what i'd call a particularly challenging album. i loved it, mind, and i'm excited about this new one.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

desp youth = experimental production, instrumentation and sounds but not really experimental songs. if anything the songs are more experimental on this album (but the production/instrumentation etc isnt)

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

i think i'm a bit less excited now, perhaps.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

have you not heard the album yet? its on all the torrents and p2p engines... its not hard to find. get it and report back to this thread!

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

heheheh ... it's sitting there on my "albums to get" list and i'm just not doing anything about it. soon. i promise.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 1 July 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

i think a lot of people that didnt know or care about TVOTR last time like this album more than a lot of the people that really loved them before. or maybe thats just me. its still a great album though, i have to admit.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 1 July 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

you know what bothers me about that review? that its suggesting all experimentation is fucking to be laughed at and is all just up your arse indulgence. sometimes it is, yeah, but not everything has to be nice and accessible. and its funny that hes using that old strawman to make way for the argument that the new tvtor album is somehow more pop, and unlike desp youth, easier to love and listen to repeatedly. cookie mountain is just as dense and difficult to get your head around and really get into the music as their older stuff! if not, more so! its just that this time its more of a band record and theres a greater number of stronger songs! so i dont know where hes getting that. the thing im seeing with TVOTR is that all the critics who missed the boat on the last album/ep are making up for it with this one.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 1 July 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

aye. petredis is a noted cock, though, isn't he? (cf guardian threads passim.)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 1 July 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

cf qv.

― a pedant (grimlord), Saturday, 1 July 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

hes not as bad as some posters on ilx seem to think he is (even if he did praise the new primal scream album, albeit in a backhanded sort of way) but he is inherently conservative in many ways.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 1 July 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

i would have to agree with mr. village indian on this

great album
http://www.villageindian.com/village_indian/2006/07/the_bands_of_20.html

so is yellow house

i also vote for espers and whitest boy alive

― boonah (boonah), Saturday, 1 July 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Petridis is a largely loathed figure (dunno if that's just online or more generally noted tho...?) As far as "Cookie Mtn" being a more "pop" album, that's pure Bullshit, I think "Desperate Youth" had more catchy melody lines, but had an awkward lo-fi production esp the primitive electronic drums/bass (tho in parts it worked really well)... something like "Staring At The Sun" or "Ambulance" is twice as "pop" (as in melodic and melodically repetitive) than anything on "Cookie".

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 2 July 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

Also (just read the Petridis review) he hates on "Playhouses"-- the best track by a loooong way. What an idiotic prick he is.

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 2 July 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

the piece on the group in the village voice really is fucking terrific. big up the writer who did it. theres a piece in the stool pigeon paper in london thats kinda interesting too. but the voice write up is fantastic.
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0626,caramanica,73659,22.html

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Sunday, 2 July 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

with arms wide open

― kevin barking (arghargh), Monday, 3 July 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

I really could have done without the first four paragraphs of that Voice piece.

― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 3 July 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

and a few others

― Zwan (miccio), Monday, 3 July 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

some versions of this that are floating around on slsk have 'Playhouses' as the first track, which is incorrect. That 'Playhouses' is actually 'Wolf Like Me', which is the 4th or 5th track on the actual album.

― rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 3 July 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

This is the good Tricky album, as opposed to the bad Tricky album.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

i love how the pitchfork review of this praises it for not using drum machines any more and getting a real live drummer in. idiots.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 7 July 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Now that this has been released, can someone definitively answer: are the songs exactly the same as the versions that leaked months ago, or have they been fleshed out more? I got $15 that's hinging on this.

― cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I have the album and the songs are pretty much the same, other than the tracklisting being different, they segue into each other in most cases, the names have been changed here and there ('Snakes & Martyrs' is now 'Hours', 'Dirty Whirlwind' is now 'Dirtywhirl'), oh and it's been properly mastered so they sound way better than they did on the leak. 'I Was A Lover' in particular sounds a lot meatier than it did back in February.

― yer mam! (yer mam!), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

if you buy one 'indie' album this year; let this be it

― rizzx (Rizz), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite release of 2006, so far. (But read Metacritic's user comments section for the predictable reactionary blowback.)

― M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

What label is this on in the U.S., is the track order/listing the same and, for the love of god, when does it come out? Amazon doesn't even have a domestic release for advance sale yet.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

They just announced it'll be September 12, coming out on Interscope. But Other Music and others are already pushing the import.

― save the robot (save the robot), Saturday, 15 July 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

can anybody explain what the label politics of release dates are for stuff like this? does anyone actually gain anything by delaying the release of a finished album for months?

― running in circles (running in circles), Saturday, 15 July 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

its on 4ad in the uk, interscope in the US. i dont know why they think its a good idea to delay it this long, but im sure they have their reasons.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 15 July 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

wow, this record blew my mind.

― JB Young (JB Young), Saturday, 19 August 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

goddamit. still haven't bought.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 19 August 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - young liars will blow your mind more.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 19 August 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

This thing leaked almost 9 months ago. They released this album in the U.K. about a month and a half ago. Pitchfork and Stylus went apeshit. Then instead of releasing it stateside, the band (and label) went silent. Not even a word on its release. Meanwhile, their website became "Under Construction" throughout this period. Odd marketing tactics for something so hyped.

After such an interminable wait, I hope you're wrong, titchy.

― cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

I came late to the party, but I've recently developed a real liking for this band. I'm looking forward to the new stuff.

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Sunday, 20 August 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

cosmo i think it depends on if you liked their old stuff very much or not really. the new album is very good, and the songs are really qutie brilliantly dense (but weirdly immaculately constructed) so it takes a while to really get into, but its just not as interesting to me production/sound wise. i dashed off a review of it on my blog www.titchy.blogspot.com...

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Sunday, 20 August 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Having listened to this for a few months now... if only it was all like "I Was A Lover"... its a bit too organic and too much live drumming rather than primitive attempts at R'n'B drums... still an interesting band, and the first half (and last 2 songs) on "Return..." are pretty great...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 20 August 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

"Im sure its more appealing to the rock loving millions that demand everything sounds ‘live’ but they should have decided if they were going to go the full on ‘rock’ or ‘tunes’ route or do weird pro tools-driven electronic weirdness rather than sounding muddled. Bring back the computers." Off Titchy's blog--- yer absolutely OTM here...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 20 August 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

after reading the stylusarticle on compression, i am wondering if this is a problem with this album. it all seems a bit too loud.

I've not heard the leaked versions, so can't comment on them vs the final mastered release, but I will say that a; Yes RTCM is quite loud BUT b; it's a fuck of a sight quieter than the likes of Muse and Keane.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Two points Nick: Firstly destructive compression matters a lot less with deliberately over-grandiose rock like Muse where sheer massive heaviosity seems to be the main aim anyway (ie- there's no subtlety so why bother conserving all frequencies as if it were a Talk Talk record or something).
Secondly: Since reading up on the compression wars I now hear destructive compression everywhere, all the time, on all post 2000 records, its driving me utterly mental! Thanks... (I think...)

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Muse vs Smashing Pumpkins circa Siamese Dream, is all I'm saying.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 21 August 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

I dug up this thread a couple of weeks ago to see what y'all were saying about this album and was surprised at all the dismissal. I was hoping for sustained analysis from you guys! I'd love to have some help articulating why this is one of the best things I've heard this year. When I first heard the album, it sounded refreshingly linear to me -- the songs seemed to be refusing to come back around in identifiable patterns. On further listen, I think that impression maybe wasn't accurate... it's more elliptical, I guess. In any case, it was nice to be surprised, to listen to this album without having any idea where it was going, fully convinced that the band knew where it was going. Now that I know the album much better, it continues to be very gratifying -- I'm still hearing things that I missed before. Also nice to have lyrics that don't actively prevent me from enjoying an album -- that's been a real deal breaker for me lately.

― belle haleine (belle haleine), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

@ Nick: Err yes, yr right that for a loud/soft dynamic to actually work it is crucial that the soft sections are actually quieter... but I always thought Muse were just ridiculous bloated grandiosity from beginning to end (for the most part) and thus compressing the shit out of their tracks to make them comically loud and abrasive could be defended on artistic grounds...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

some ppl think the earlier TvOTr stuff is a bit muddy sounding but thats what i liked about it. it wasnt perfect and didnt sound like it was made in a typical studio setting. the new one is very loud and big and to me at least, seems to lack some of that ebb and flow of dynamic you got on their earlier stuff. there are some great songs in there though. i really really love playhouses. 'i can feel the ocean on your tongue' ( i think thats the line) could have been a bit overwrought but for some reason it sounds lovely and sincere.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

to me, RTCM is like prince's early 90s work with the NPG to prince's work with the revolution circa parade/SOTT.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, old TVOTR = revolution prince, new TVOTR = NPG prince

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

gekopple - that'd be OK if Muse didn't have quiet bits - also it's not just loss of dynamics, iut's what it does to their drum and guitar sounds, i.e. makes them totally un-abrasive and shiny sounding, losing the attack they presumably want.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Amazon has the U.S. Interscope version listed for a September 12 release with the following bonus tracks:

12. [ambient audio]
13. Snakes and Martyrs
14. Hours (El-P Remix)
15. Things You Can Do

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 24 August 2006 07:38 (nineteen years ago)

snakes... and things you can do are on the bsides to wolf like me in the uk. ill still buy the US CD though just for the el-p mix. hope its good.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 24 August 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

anyone still listening to this?

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I threw it on again the other day. whatever. it still doesn't do much for me; basically all that's changed is instead of "I Was A Lover" or "Wolf Like Me" being the only song I really enjoyed, it was "Province".

― Bernard Snowy (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

i dont really feel the urge to back to it. only song i really like is playhouses. everything else just seems to be weighed down by its own self importance. not as interesting as anything they released earlier either.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

You guys otm.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I don't go back often, but when I do it's pretty rewarding. I can understand the songs all being kind of unexciting in memory, but when you actually listen there's still tons of stuff going on.

― call all destroyer (Sean Braudis), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

There is a lot happening, but they don't really do anything to get me interested in any of it.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

weird how well received this album has been. they sound fatigued and worn out on it. maybe they spent too long working on it. i find it too leaden.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

i go back to it all the time

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

live i find it sounds better. less 'dead'.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

i got the new live EP. shitty artwork aside, i think i like all these versions better than the album versions. not so overproduced. sadly no live version of playhouses though. this is definitely worth getting though.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Saturday, 21 April 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

heard this today. i still think its over produced but damn its good. but is it just me or is tunde doing an album long bowie impression on his vocals all throughout this album?

― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Having recently got Cookie Mountain, I'm surprised at how lo-fi it is next to Dear Science. It may make me an uncool johnny-come-lately to say so, but I think a beefed-up crisper sound suits the band more. I'm digging Hours, Province, Wolf Like Me and Dirtywhirl, but am finding the rest a bit impenetrable TBH.

― chap, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

took me a while to really "get it" too.

― Ioannis, Friday, 13 February 2009 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

you guys realize "Wolf Like Me" is actually "Rebel Yell" by Billy Idol rite

― Wir fahren fahren fahren auf der Autoban (Curt1s Stephens), Saturday, 1 May 2010 06:29 (fifteen years ago)

thank you, the scales have fallen from my eyes

― WE THE VIKING (The Reverend), Saturday, 1 May 2010 07:23 (fifteen years ago)

ten years pass...

Does anyone still listen to this? Do like bits of it and all the albums that came later, but think they kind of peaked, or were most interesting pre-cookie.

― candyman, Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:59 (four years ago)

dear science is the tvotr album that has a place in my heart. cookie mountain is good too, but with some exceptions it's more of a vibe than collection of songs that i can sing back in my head. what a vibe, though.

― voodoo chili, Thursday, 25 March 2021 14:27 (four years ago)

They started to sing all affected on cookie. Dear science is the carefully constructed one, family tree is amazing, but they got kinda bland fast.

― candyman, Thursday, 25 March 2021 14:54 (four years ago)

cookie mountain is the best by a mile if we're not counting the young liars ep

― imago, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:08 (four years ago)

Dear Science is the only one I return to.

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:27 (four years ago)

"cookie mountain is the best by a mile if we're not counting the young liars ep"

1. young liars
2. desp youth (a good half of it)
3 ok calculator
4. everything else

― candyman, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:07 (four years ago)

Kinda hoping this was bumped for a new announcement.

1. Dear Science
2. Cookie Mountain
3. Desperate Youth / Young Liars (hard for me to separate these two because I absorbed them both around the same time)
4. Nine Types of Lights
5. Seeds

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:14 (four years ago)

15th anniversary so who knows, maybe they will do something for it.

― candyman, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:24 (four years ago)

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