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lame rip off of suicide? or do they have something going for them?

― minna, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lame rip off. Nowhere near the bite or tunes of prime Suicide.

― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

different league. saying that, i saw both of them live in 2001 and a.r.e. weapons were better but only because suicide were an embarassment to their heritage.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

WOAAAAAHHHHH!

― DV, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

WOAAAHHHH!!!

― ARE Weapons, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why are all these bands so ugly?

― gareth, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I never thought I would one day be old enough to hear the words "Suicide were an embarrassment to their heritage."

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You didn't hear them you read them - hold the pension book!

― Tom, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

not once but twice live were suicide dreadful. saying that, i saw them in 1987 and they were amazing.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thread hijack! Everyone keep calm!

You're the third person to warn me away from seeing Suicide live, so I guess I'll pass on them if they come around here despite my new- found passion for the band.

BTW, anyone hear anything about the album that they are putting out next month? Does it glow or does it blow?

― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

i just heard a track ("hey world"?) from their album on the radio and fuck me if it wasn't the worst thing i've heard all year. I eventually came to like the previous two singles but this is just terrible. The guy is 'singing' in some hideous sub-Lou Reed way, fucking awful lyrics, the only semi-ok thing about it is the weedy synth..

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 4 April 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I just heard "Don't Be Scared" thanks to Spencer, and it's the best thing I've heard so far this year. I'm really drunk right now, don't know if I'll feel the same tomorrow. But life is meant to be awesome!!!

― Arthur (Arthur), Saturday, 5 April 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I became fascinated by ARE Weapons after seeing a photograph of them. Their, eh, unwashed character and wife-beater chic made them a source of endless jokes round the vicarage. But sadly, when I actually heard one of their tracks ('New York Muscle') I found it to be unbelievably lame poncey synthpop. I therefore feel let down by ARE Weapons.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 5 April 2003 06:55 (twenty-two years ago)

What do the initials A.R.E. stand for?

I heard the band before I saw what the looked like. I agree -- they are entirely incongruous, and huge Suicide fans.

Cover art = still frame of Satan's face from "The Excorcist."

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't but believe there is a large amount of humor in what they do.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Saturday, 5 April 2003 07:34 (twenty-two years ago)

A.R.E. S.H.I.T

― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Saturday, 5 April 2003 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)

wow that made me laugh and also totally made me change my mind.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Saturday, 5 April 2003 07:42 (twenty-two years ago)

ceddy to thread, since he is the only person i've yet seen who likes this band

― Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 5 April 2003 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)

"don't be scared" and "hey world" = amazing. i think maybe yancey said somewhere that these were the best songs on the album? i've actually not yet heard the songs in between. i really should.

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 5 April 2003 09:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't Be Scared is great.

ARE stands for Attitude Raw Energy, I've come to understand. Take them with a grain of salt and it's kinda fun. I'd listen to their album 1000 times before I listen to a single Yeah Yeah Yeahs piece of shit.

I dunno, I kinda have a soft spot for them, as fashionista and contrived as it all is. Plus, as I've said many times on this board, their previous bands (Army of Ghosts / Aylers Angels) were KILLER.

Oh yeah, and "Hey World" is atrocious - someone here comapred it to Love Stinks, which is OTM, but the Geils band rocked...ARE Weapons, on that song, certainly do not.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 April 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

i think some parts of the album sounds like bad Marilyn Manson songs.
Too bad because i really liked the singles!

― Jens (brighter), Sunday, 6 April 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

ARE stands for Attitude Raw Energy

I still have never heard anything by them but this explanation makes me want to beat them savagely with a rusty pipe.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 April 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked them more before I saw their picture.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 6 April 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

there was just something on tv talking about how the dude from a.r.e. weapons (ugly mofo) got into a fight with sean lennon at a club because lennon knocked off the dude's hat.

"don't you know, you don't mess with a man's hat. that's universal."

haha.

he also thought possibly there was a nyc band rivalry and that was the motivation for the hat knocking.

they're going to court now.

― JasonD (JasonD), Sunday, 6 April 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Punks suing punks. Awesome. Can't motherfuckers just have a fight anymore and get on with it?

That said, I got the back of anyone who rumbles with any artist who's ever had anything to do with Grand Royal ever.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hey World" is an amazing song! As is "Don't Be Scared." I hate linking to my own shit, but someone's gotta defend this record (which is my fave of the year thus far)!

http://www.citypages.com/databank/24/1165/article11161.asp

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Atomic Revenge Extreme

― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Monday, 7 April 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't stop listening to the CD, and I didn't really want to like it. The paradox of super hipster downtown dipshits making music which apparantly screams for street cred resolves itself with one of the better albums of the year. Put another way, if Original Pirate Material made all yr top tens, so will this.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I've heard "Atomic Revenge Extreme" too.

I can't explain why I'm drawn to the music/schtick. On paper (and initially to the ears), it's really lame/amateur/verging on the retarded. However, it's almost endearing how uncool it actually is, like it's made by really enthusiastic (for Suicide, 'The Warriors', Apocalypse Now etc) nerds (Suicide were big nerds too). Plus, I like the organ stab on "NY Muscle". Also, in some interview, they said something along the lines of "We're not influenced by Suicide, we want to be Suicide", which is part of the same logic.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree totally, Spencer.

It may very well be the guiltiest pleasure of the year.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's the Voice live review: http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0315/sotc.php

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

too

much

irony

can't

procesggghhhrrrrgghhhhh

― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Life must be awesome.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

It may very well be the guiltiest pleasure of the year.

Down with guilt! Up with enjoyment! :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Two things: 1) It's uncanny how similar my City Pages piece is language-wise to the SotC brief 2) Chloe did not look hot! She's gotten fat and her face is HUGE!!!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

(haha... and in the first draft of my piece i had the phrase "in a world gone mad" but decided it was too over the top)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I think maybe the key word is "heavy."

in attendance and looking hot in heavy eyeliner and a tutu

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Greil Marcus weighs in on ARE with his first RLRTX column for City Pages:

1) A.R.E. Weapons, A.R.E. Weapons (Rough Trade) New York City, very self-mocking about their street smarts, very anguished about the street, and utterly expert in a way that hides all craft. Guys come hunching down the sidewalk in their leather jackets: "Let's hear it for America," says the singer, sarcastic and completely straight. As a heartfelt adolescent plea for parental forbearance, "Hey World" has the defiant lift of the Yeah Yeah Yeah's "Our Time" and the regret of the Clash's "This Is England"--you can imagine it coming out of Claire on Six Feet Under, and it's stirring. "You're either part of the problem," you hear as the band sets you up to ignore its clichés, "or you're part of the fucking miserable solution we call life."

http://www.citypages.com/databank/24/1166/article11172.asp

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

He had me until he referenced the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Rookie mistake.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I agree. How insightful, Greil -- to compare a band to another band within its own cohort (and completely pushing aside the fact that "Our Time" is about a hipster revolution and "Hey World" simply says to the acne-inflicted, teenage masses, "You've gotta friend.").

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

...you can imagine it coming out of Claire on Six Feet Under...

More like My So-Called Life's Rayanne Graff.

― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I still think "Don't Be Scared" is song of the year so far. I'm not drunk anymore. "Hey World" is a very corny, but I like corn. Not that crazy about the album as a whole, but Spencer's right, their enthusiasm and goofiness is a big plus.

I love it when he says, "So everyone thinks you're a spazz...so what, Spazz! Spazz out!" Or something like that.

― Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

And look out for next week in the Voice for a review from our very own Frank Kogan...

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh Mary, I meant to tell you, my friend got let go from the Gilmore Girls. Damn them! It happened the day I read your piece. I was gonna print up the article and have him bring it into work. Oh well.

I guess now I can tune into the final Buffy episodes without feeling guilty.

― Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm listening to this now and it was interesting to read your thoughts.

I'm uhhhhh, really enjoying it, and it's so not my thing. I feel bad and dirty.

Apparently there was so much coke at their London debut you could see it on people's faces.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 14 April 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG, this song that's playing right now...(I don't have a tracklist)...one about kids with nothing to do...RIDICULOUS lyrics...HEY! hey world...it's it's it's the best thing I've heard in ages! I think. But it is late. Oh, it was the last song. Last songs are great. Don't hold me any of this, btw.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 14 April 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

oh my god just thinking about the lyrics to that song makes me feel itchy

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 14 April 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

It's horrible. But compelling.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 14 April 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

No, Nordicskillz, it's AMAZING. It's the album of the year, no question. And "Hey World" is great, no matter what the haters say.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 14 April 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0316/kogan.php

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I shake my fist at you, Kellman!

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:45:23|PM&sql=A2kmsa9cgw23h

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha! Andy roolz, mang.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Could someone please post the quadratic equation? I read Frank's review and can't remember it. It makes me feel dummm.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I really wanna hear this.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

IT'S THE GREATEST ALBUM EVER!!! (this is to spite Andy)

felicity, I don't remember the quadratic equation either!!!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/qimg544.gif

OMG. I can't believe I was just momementarily "that" person. You know, the one who could look up info on google but doesn't.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

ARE Weapons' biggest fan = Nich-aid spokesman and VENOM (not a band) member Sly Rax

― Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

A.R.E. = Actually Really Embarrassing

― mosurock (mosurock), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

meh. seriously meh. like i guess they're "different" and so fun to write and talk about and sort of adorable but who would actually want to y'know *listen* to their samey almost-but-not-quite-dancable thudding for any period of time?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Me. For a month or so it was the only record I listened to...

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Me too. I loved it! It is much better than the Streets. I'm gonna listen to it again and again.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

It is much better than the Streets

Damn Aaron, comin' with the controversy. You could get lynched around these parts, for such a deliberately inflammatory statement.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Yancey, tell me/us why you like/d the record so much? I can't remember the last record that was (figuratively) glued to my CD player for a whole month - apart from Avril Lavigne, but I'm not sure that necessarily counts.

I find that even if I fully adore an album and tell everyone how fantastic it is ad nauseam, I don't listen to it constantly for any real length of tim,e for fear of missing out on something else I could be listening to in that time. It seems like, I dunno, literally a waste of time.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 17 April 2003 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Yanc3y sez: http://www.citypages.com/databank/24/1166/article11172.asp

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 17 April 2003 08:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Oops, delete plz. I meant Yanc3y sez: http://www.citypages.com/databank/24/1165/article11161.asp

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 17 April 2003 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks Nordicskillz. That City Pages thing sums up my feelings pretty succinctly.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 17 April 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

THEY'RE ROBOT RAMONES BLOWING UP THE TURNBULL A.C.'S WITH G.I. JOE BAZOOKAS AND I LOVE THEM

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 3 May 2003 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

'Sorry, I don't think boredom is an explanation for knife fights any more than it's an explanation for algebra: "Hey, if you had my shitty life, you'd be doing quadratic equations too."'

Yay Frank Kogan!

I saw ARE Weapons play at an As 4 party once. I think I was doing quadratic equations through their set because I just remember strobes and bass throb. Milla Jovovich was there, and Fischerspooner, and...

― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 3 May 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I see they are playing The Underworld in a few weeks...any ILX0rs thinking of going?

(NB I once flamed a friend of mine for going to see them about a year ago. Oh, the hypocrisy!)

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Bitch on, Bitchfork! This review makes me love the record even more!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 16 May 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the last paragraph. The one that's actually ABOUT THE MUSIC.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 16 May 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I'm no rent-a-cop: this pistol's loaded with the cold truth, and A.R.E. Weapons aren't getting a dime.

What an utterly sad wanker!

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 May 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, that's really, really fucking depressing. Another example of failing to engage the music, not yr preconceptions about the music. But that's just The Pitchfork Way, I guess. And anyone who says this entire record is a Suicide rip hasn't listened to it yet. And "Hey World" gets compared to Conor Oberst's supergroup??? I guess the writer's never heard of Mike & the Mechanics, then...

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

anyone who says this entire record is a Suicide rip hasn't listened to it yet

SO true, I'm not really sure where this comes from. Suicide clearly had/have an entirely different agenda and sound. It's all about the sleaze. I love this album more and more each day.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Chris Ott any relation to Mike Ott of Sound Virus?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

ARE weapons are the Rules of Attraction of the music world.

― Paul Isaacs (genewilder2), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Speak of the devil! (see above)

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

shhh be careful or he'll hear you

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i just love that the ultimate pitchfork criticism is "style over substance." ummm.... what's pfork again???

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(i ain't no pfork h8r, by the way)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw them live in Toronto and some ceiling fibreglass fell on the singer. The rest of the show was less fun.

Other bands with a song called "Hey World" include LA Guns and the Crack City Rockers.

Whatever happened to LA Guns? Nowthere was a band.

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Bring back Paul!

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

anyone who says this entire record is a Suicide rip hasn't listened to it yet

Anyone who says this entire record is a Suicide rip hasn't listened to Suicide.

Yancey - I did finally get the record and listen to it a lot, pretty much every day for a couple weeks. It still rubs me the wrong way; it sounds goofy to me. I think they're maybe putting one over on me, the lyrics are so simplistic. It sounds planned, overly conceptual, thought out. I just don't trust A.R.E. Weapons. I still listen to it though, and not because I'm a masochist.

― scott m (mcd), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

So it sounds like you don't dislike it, you just aren't willing to like it? Fair enough. The best way to dig it: Divorce the idea of who they are in real life from the album. You're right that it is goofy, but they ain't trying to pull leather over yr eyes... I've said it a million times already, but the record's so fucking sincere it's heartbreaking.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Any Suicide comparison is obviously all about ARE Weapons's look, not their sound. Which makes it painfully ironic that Pitchfork should criticise them for being "style over substance". Reads like they've looked at a picture but never actually listened to the music.

― Jason J, Friday, 16 May 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

It feels like the kid in my class at school who was cooler than me and always made remarks about bands I liked and such and I could never tell if he was making fun of me or not. I mean, I still thought he was sorta cool but I couldn't like him.

That is A.R.E. Weapons.

― scott m (mcd), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

the record's so fucking sincere

Apologies for the dull question (and I'm sure you've actually answered it for these guys) but how does any listener know if something they hear is 'sincere' or not?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

You normally can't. We've had long talks about this on ILM before. But what makes me think ARE really really really mean what they have to say is how divorced their lyrics are from how their image. Some people are calling this irony, but it really isn't. Based on what I know of them personally through friends, encounters, etc., I think that they set out to make a record that spoke to "the kids" in the same way that music spoke to them when they were preteens. If you look at my review of the record linked upthread you might have a better idea of what I mean. I'm not doing a great job of articulating it here...

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

that was an awful diss review. should have stopped after "the fucking pet shop boys".

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, those pet shop boys sure do suck-diddly-uck

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw them play last night (a.r.e., not the pet shop boys). i think i'd have had to heard their music before to really enjoy it. they're no gold chains, that's for sure.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

they're terrible live

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

ok good, i thought it was just me. they actually did close their set w/ a killer tune, i can't tell you what it was but it was built around a ragga dancehall sample/riff. that's pretty much where i derived the GC comparison, accurate or not.

and at the end of the set, some little punk with a mohawk threw a beer bottle at the singer from about thirty feet away. it missed his head by like two feet and smashed against the brick wall behind him, but he didn't flinch, which was fucking tough, because i jumped like a foot in the air.

also, paul's gangsta-print versace hoodie: fucking classic.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, Chris Ott is an even worse writer than I thought he was!

― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 17 May 2003 07:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I'M NO RENT-A-COP

Still can't get over that. Do you reckon if we say his name 3 times we get a tribal style war?

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 May 2003 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)

One side or the other will feel stupid in 6 months. And it won't be the haters.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 17 May 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Then why say "one side or the other"?

I wonder if this many people hated the Ramones.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 17 May 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't ya just wanna hug them?

"I want people to say we sound like the Wu-Tang, but nobody does," he laughs. "Lou Reed was cool back in the day, but Jay-Z is cool now. We want to be modern, although we don't want to be a white rap group either. Still, if you throw a party, you can play Blondie records all night -- only a few people will dance. When you throw on Jay-Z or 50 Cent, people go fucking crazy. Hip-hop is the new rock 'n' roll.

"And fuck, I'll pistol-whip electroclash," McPeck stresses. "We're not about pretending to be from the '80s. Those kids have their funny little haircuts and their ties, they're just as fucking retarded as I am -- it's all just a retard riot. But I don't give a shit if people call us electroclash. Like, you can call me a girl, or a fucking monkey, but I know I'm a dude."

http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_05.29.03/thebeat/areweapons.html

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know, now they seem even more obnoxious. More for that last sentence than anything else.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

The sentiment is admirable, but the words betray it. Trust me, Yanc3y is spot on, it's a very good album.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Retard Riot needs to be an album title, like, now!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I do enjoy the confusion over 'please compare us to the Wu-Tang Clan even though we're not a white rap group' -- it's sort of a Dismemberment Plan type wish fulfillment which is charming but limiting. "We're hip! Really! We know what the kids like!" That's nice, dear.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah xxxcept the D-Plan don't know that they're d00ds cuz Travis has turned into kindofa whiny beeyatch.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The explanation for their breakup made manifest!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

That's nice, dear.

Ned in sounding-just-like-my-mum shockah?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Aw, does that mean I'm invited to the wedding?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

If you wear a pretty dress.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 29 May 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

always with the weddings.

"don't be scared" is in my top 10 singles so far i think. still havent heard the album.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 29 May 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Would it be wrong of me to tell you that you may already heard the best song on it , then? Hey World runs it close.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 29 May 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

heh, well if i do hear the album, i wont be buying it if you get my drift, so no harm no foul

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 29 May 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

not that I want to be a killjoy. the rest of it is well worth hearing.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 29 May 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

seriously, every dplan band meeting turns into trav going, "boys. BOYS! look at my vag some more, mkay?"

jess, get "street gang" and "hey world" and yr set. the rest ain't so hot but those three alone make the record the best, ya know, like, ever!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 29 May 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Saw them at the underworld last night. May be the best example yet of something not crossing the atlantic well...

The outfits better than the music, but this might've been because the synth wasn't up high enough and they ended up sounding like a weedy Limp Bizkit....

― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 29 May 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck it, I really wanna hear this album. And I did BEFORE it got compared to a weedy Limp Bizkit.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 30 May 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

a.r.s.e weapons more like

― haha, Saturday, 31 May 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

OK, worth seeing live? They're playing in Minneapolis soon.

― Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Monday, 14 July 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

No. Don't see them live. They're awful.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 14 July 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

Snakes On A Plane!

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 28 February 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

Could someone plz seriously ysi me that what the fuck song?

― W4LTER, Thursday, 28 February 2008 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

huh? which one?

sometimes i listen to hey world when i need a chuckle

― electricsound, Thursday, 28 February 2008 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

a.r.s.e weapons more like

-- haha, Saturday, 31 May 2003 20:10 (4 years ago)

These are always the best posts.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 28 February 2008 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 5,330,000 for a.r.e. garbage. (0.24 seconds)

― electricsound, Thursday, 28 February 2008 12:42 (seventeen years ago)

haven't some of them died or something?

― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 28 February 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

re death.
yup : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.R.E._Weapons

― mark e, Thursday, 28 February 2008 13:43 (seventeen years ago)

Trivia

* J Allard, leader of the Microsoft team that created the Zune is a fan.[1]

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 28 February 2008 13:43 (seventeen years ago)

"Hey World" and "Don't Be Scared" are both awesome.

― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, 28 February 2008 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

Both of those songs had that 'hugely famous former pro-wrestler delivers positive lifestyle speech to teenage fans' vibe to them. It's a shame there wasn't one called 'Stay Away From Drugs'.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 28 February 2008 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

I still like this band. Anyone heard the new one, Darker Blue?

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 12 July 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

bump

― the food has a top snake of 1 (ulillillia), Thursday, 15 July 2010 01:18 (fifteen years ago)

God we played with these guys once. Sucked.

― Nate Carson, Thursday, 15 July 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)

someone in that a.r.e. weapons band is related to someone famous/talented, iirc.

nme listed them as a band-of-the-future, or some such nonsense, in the early part of the last decade.

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 15 July 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)

One of them is Chloe Sevigny's brother. "Don't Be Scared" is still one of my favorite songs of the last several years.

― Becky Facelift, Thursday, 15 July 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

The two guys from A.R.E who aren't Paul Sevigny or Thomas Bullock (pre-Sevigny) have another project that's slightly different called TV Baby. It's still pretty Suicide but maybe a bit more Metal Urbain.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 15 July 2010 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

I like the new album okay, though definitely not as much as the first one, and probably not as much as the third. (Didn't like the second, at least not at the time.) Best cut is easily "Confusion Is The Sign," which is basically a Velvet Underground pastiche. After that, probably "Jeffrey Lee" (presumably about Pierce) and "Street Justice." "Radio Radio" isn't a Costello cover.

― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 July 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

And yeah, the one time I saw them live, they were horrible -- Probably the worst show I've ever seen by a band supporting an album I liked enough to put on my Pazz & Jop ballot (the debut).

― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 July 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

one of the worst things we ever had at our club but super nice guys. we had been warned before how "rock n' roll" they were so when they asked if they could get the keys to my place before the end of the night i headed home later expecting the worst. arrived back to find one of them tucked up in bed, one of them reading charles dickens and the other one (thomas) doing my dishes.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 15 July 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

six years pass...

If somebody have that: "The Wasteland Tapes Vol.1" album of A.R.E.'s and want to sell it to me, please contact me: filip_ilie✧✧✧@ya✧✧✧.c✧✧

― kill4Acandy, Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:52 (nine years ago)

If somebody have that: "The Wasteland Tapes Vol.1" album of A.R.E.'s and want to sell it to me, please contact me: filip_ilieski @yahoo.com
Regards
Filip

― kill4Acandy, Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:53 (nine years ago)

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