Luciano's Sci.Fi.Hi.Fi is corkscrewing a hole in my brain

FFS thats a month away!!! no fair!!!

Ewan Pearson's installment was like that too...if that turns out to be a theme of sorts for the series I will be overjoyed. Pearson's had so many great tunes that were new to me, and after that seeing the second has a tracklisting full of artists I've never heard of is wonderfully exciting in a perverse way.

er....

fucks sake. dear folks, please come visit me another weekend, thnx bye

-- jimnaseum

Rhetorical question.

no-one seems to want to go w.me

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sleeparchive/monolake is totally the kind of show you could go to by yourself. i think it's better that way. i saw monolake at WMF in berlin last year and it was one of the most stunning and immersive shows i've ever seen. you won't be able to speak or even notice the people around you--it's a bit like the third hour of an acid trip--so it's better to go alone.

anyway, luciano's sci.fi.hi.fi, a month away huh? : /

i just got his set from escape club, in bucharest from last october (and a 5 hr sven vath set from same club), plip-plop is popular in bucharest it seems!

the magical quality of monolake really depends on the sound system, though. their music needs a great sound system and a really big space. the summer location of wmf last year was perfect for this because it's half indoors and half outdoors, so it's really airy and there's space to move around, and there are plenty of odd dark little corners to hide in (if you get too lost in music.) and if you look up you can see the stars, which is always a big plus.

hmmmmm 17.21...22.56
05.55....10.51

well

wtf is this club closing at 3 for?!?!!?

as for plip-plop seems to be popular absolutely everywhere except for scotland. if you substitute "england" for scotland" this might be about right. with the sort of acts appearing up there (eg er...at yr night!) im not sure this applies. but essentially, yeah, fuck the british isles.

i mean, i know what promoters at clubs are saying "oh its not popular, it wont get enough people in" but srriously thats fucked up given how big it is elsewhere, in civilisation

i dunno, if a trapez night can be the main draw at somewhere like the key, it has to be pretty popular?

and seattle.

but compare any of these to berlin, and it makes you cry...

fabric is a really good place for it, and they have amazing line ups, but it just eats everywhere else. what id like is for all those people to platy plastic people and it not be so rammed as fabric can get. er, so thats gonna happen.....never

WELL...

lost are starting a friday night club called spacebase, at plastic people. i think lost have gone plipplop!

guess whos playing nitsa in BCN sat night too? Ada (live!!!) and patrick chardonnet. thanks, europe.

well i get mandy tomorrow i guess

anyway, sorry philip for the major thread derailment. must get a listen to luciano's cd.

(oh and we don't count tokyo)

Singapore has seriously some of the best sound systems you're ever likely to hear and who plays on them? Hed Kandi. Euch.

Really? that surprises me. I'd always assumed Glasgow would be pretty receptive to interesting artists like that.

Dj Koze is playing down in Brighton tomorrow (which everyone is probably sick of me posting on here) at The Concorde 2, which is a pretty big venue. Kliks, the people who are promoting it, starting off 2 and a half years ago putting on Tobias Thomas at a 150-capacity venue, and for the last 18 months have had a mostly succesfull bi-monthly residency at a 300 capacity venue - but this is another step up again to a venue which holds almost 600, so it will be interesting to see just how popular this music is in Brighton.

I think the minimal 'scene' as it is, has started to take off down here. In the last month, a new night 'Bleeps' has put on both Magda and Trentemoller in 300 capacity venues, and they also run an after-party in a 100-capacity bar from 2am-8am every Saturday which seems to be fairly popular to.

First half hardly know the artists. Second half is quite familiar but looks very strong.

Luciano is pretty regular at Fabric (which now goes till 9.30am). He's back here soon too.

With Berghain you could have a sleep on Saturday evening and rock up around 9am on Sunday morning.

I've noticed Luciano isn't playing as the date was rescheduled, but the line-up still looks great, so I'll try my best to go

Luciano IS playing at Fabric on the 29th of April though. FAP anyone?

watergate is a nice club that is a bit more subdued, they have pretty neat line ups. theres a trapez label night coming up there sometime. its right by the river spree, so you can see across through the huge windows.

on-topic - don't know about corkscrewing, but i'm really looking forward to this mix even though i only know one track :-)

I think the scariest part of going around Pride in Brighton is how shockingly banal all the music is, which I guess won't be a problem at Panoramabar!

http://rapidshare.de/files/15202125/LUCIANO_DAVE_LIVE_SODOMA_7.12.2005__pt1_.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/15154224/LUCIANO_DAVE_LIVE_SODOMA_7.12.2005__pt2_.mp3.html

Although ... the Salif Keita remix is amazing and holding me over nicely.

i just cheated and skipped straight to "father" - awesome! can't wait to listen to this mix properly tomorrow. i realy hope it lives up to my expectations.

Mayer also played last night, was pretty cool, he played Steve Silk Hurley "Jack Your Body"!

Great track to open it, haven't heard it before, really pretty; it really takes off at track 4 with Luciano's 'Bateria lup!' which is followed by two nice bass heavy cuts by people-I've-never-heard-of-but-obviously-should-have which kinda keeps the elevated mood (I would be dancing my ass off at this juncture if I was to hear this set out); ah, track 8 and back to familiar territory - Serafin's "Starship discotheque", excellent; and its back to discogs for the next track, why haven't I heard of this?!; now it's Matt John who subtly samples Matias Aguayo's "Drums and feathers" if I'm not mistaken, thumbs up for that; the Solieb track is insane; Phage and Daniel Dreier now, haven't heard of the latter but the former is in Pan-Pot and is living up to their high standards here; a trio of chilenos now with a long transition from Alejandro Vivanco to Ichso (which in the context of this set seems eminently danceable) into Luciano and Melchior's 'Father'; ah and we're done with some Japanese twinky twonky niceness to finish precedings.

Verdict: fantastisch. I was thoroughly engaged the whole time, has turned me on to a bunch of folk I was hitherto completely ignorant of, and it will now serve as the introduction to plip-plop for my many nay-saying acquaintances.

also psyched to see tech-house stalwarts john thomas, donnacha costello, adam beyer, thomas melchior and jesper dahlback get their props.

and ... 2000 And One? whoa ... early 90s deep techno flashback!!

Return of the techno house producers from yesteryear

Totally off topic

who da heck is pat bodmer???? bet he didn't play a perlon record. edinburgh is great - we do a monthly night there and it is always very special but they deffo don't go for anything too mindwarping.

okay, yeah. there hasn't been a 12" or EP or full-length in a while. i'd just like to hear some full-on "Luciano" tracks. i realize he hasn't been sleeping in a closet ... i just want to hear some more Luciano!

:)

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"This mix was made with Nuo5 Ecler Mixer."

"also psyched to see tech-house stalwarts john thomas, donnacha costello, adam beyer, thomas melchior and jesper dahlback get their props."

I think these guys get their props in microhouse mixes pretty regularly (esp. Thomas Melchior and both Dahlbacks - and Beyer gets on everything ever since he moved from only harder tech to making the occasional micro track).

but beyer's fabric set was better than akufen's so there.

thank god we'll always have proles and their exquisite taste in dance music ;-)

He's correct. That doesn't make it bad music. The one time I saw Beyer with Geeta he was really good! Though physically tiring, and not really conducive to our plan of staying up dancing all night. But it is a lot like a slightly more refined hard house. Except that you don't see scarily muscular, scarily tanned women in black lyrcra boob tubes and hot pants at DJ nights playing Beyer-type music like you would at a hard house night (and no, I'm not just fantasising about what a hard house night is like, that is what they actually are like).

The way the first track segues into the second, each time the new percussion comes in I manage to convince myself that it's just a new, inspired convolution of the original groove...and suddenly it all changes into the second track. And the first three tracks altogether are just such an immaculate sequence, and then the final track which is like the return of all three (again arising out of an inspired mixing segue). I almost wish the entire mix was like those four tracks, they constitute such a distinctive and gorgeous aesthetic. What is it? Slo-mo arpeggiated balearic electro-house...

I like Luciano's productions a lot. I like the look of tracklist of this CD. So why was I among only the last ten left when he played Tokyo last? Over 4 hours, the guy slooooowly cleared the dancefloor! I guess people just want their main floor to bang harder?

hahahaha.

"Drumcode" style techno doesn't do much for me, it gets boring after an hour or so. Just sort of find it lame that all those guys are now playing Trentemoller etc.

although i stand by my statement that beyer's fabric mix is as good as any of the other "minimal" mixes for the label.

xpost when ronan said "flabby techno producers" who have made overtures to ye olde World O' Minimal i must admit the first person i thought of was this guy:

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saw patrick bodmer and jesper dahlback on friday, and whichever one was on before the abysmal DK7, was better. mainly cos he played HARZEROLLER OMG!!!!

also, erotic discourse makes a lot of sense to me now, in other news! but i wouldnt sit in my living room and listen to it.

still no comment on luciano cos i still have a month to wait for this.

ambrose! have you heard the new dominik eulberg remix of pier bucci's 'l'nuit'? go get it now!

On a related note, does anyone else like Kiki's "Boogybytes vol. 1" mix? I do, a lot. Most of the tracks will be old + familiar to many of you, but it contains some great interpellations of Kiki's own stuff over the top of other tracks...
The cover is classic too (apparently he's caught in mid head bang)...

I'd have to agree, I was pretty surprised just how much I enjoyed his mix - it just had that little twist which made it stand out.

Saw MANDY on Saturday night and again on Sunday afternoon, they were in great form. Certainly some of the most fun and charismatic guys around imo.

explain yrself cozen.

"i am coming around to enjoying this type of mix far more than the immaculate mincing precision of benjamin wild, the hypercity mix, "feeb-house." when i saw pantytec in NYC they were also really jammy. "

Tracer haven't you always been down on Hypercity? Is this really that much of a new development for you?

the vocal sample that comes in during 'father' isn't some vaguely mystical claptrap--it's an indian swami (and i think i know exactly which one) reciting passages, translated from sanskrit into english, from the seventh chapter of the ancient scripture the bhagavad-gita, which happens to be the book i was named after (the spelling of my name was supposed to be 'gita', but my parents changed it.) 'i am the radiance in the sun and the moon...' etc etc. it's an extremely beautiful passage, one of the most poetic in the book--i was forced to read these scriptures as a child--but this track made me question pretty much everything about my childhood, my past, where i am now, and the 'spirituality' of house and techno music in general. i'm not sure if this makes any sense; i'm also not sure if they cleared the rights for the sample, which is rather long--i can't imagine that the guy who is speaking would have wanted to be sampled in a techno track. but whatever--it sounds good and works well in the mix, right? isn't that what matters? would it bother me -- or at least inflict me with a deep-seated guilt, rooted in hazy childhood memory -- to see really fucked up people dancing to this in a big club? it might, and i guess i'm trying to understand why. i guess the concept of 'spirituality' in dance music is kind of tricky; house and disco are generally referred to as more 'spiritual' or 'soulful' than techno, or that's at least been my experience. i think techno is very spiritual, in a different sort of way--there's certainly stuff over the years that i've been moved by in some deeper, spaced-out way that i can't understand--some detroit, some basic channel stuff esp. maurizio, some earlier wolfgang voigt stuff, some of the extremely minimal newer stuff...but anyway, i'll stop now and get to bed before i start posting in sanskrit.

the first time i opened up alice coltrane's "universal consciousness" i saw a reprinted baha'i prayer - i have been more or less estranged from the religion for a while. well, i've been sort of ignoring it, a fact i've been glossing over, or at least being coy about, when these things come up between me and my family.

[how would it feel to see]fucked up people dancing to this in a big club?

...

i guess the concept of 'spirituality' in dance music is kind of tricky

Personally I don't see anything problematic with people using virtually any sounds in music.

Those fucked up people dancing, whether they happen to be dancing to a rabid preacher sample, an MLK sample, a swami sample or some random sex noises ARE having a spiritual experience of their own. If you can admit that midwestern christianity and hinduism are both valid forms of spirituality then surely searching for assorted sonics that push the right 'spirituality' buttons on the dancefloor is valid too? And drugs as a route to spirituality, isn't that valid as well?

Sure it might strike a bit of a wrong note for people for whom these sonics are particularly meaningful in a context outside of music, but I don't think that makes it a cheap or reprehensible tactic on the part of the artist.

Apart from anything else if you had to excise all music that trespassed on any form of spiritual or religious territory you'd not be left with much...

! i'm really glad you said that, i nearly made some drug references in a comment the other day, so i'll avoid that in future...

re: cultural politics etc, was there a similar (well, related) discussion about this (involving geeta?) about truth hurts' "addictive" a few years back, or am i imagining that?

Truth Hurts - Addictive; Hey, what's the name of the Indian song playing in the background?

I remember a lot of the early house anthems were saturated with gospel and that was not meant to denigrate black religous music but rather to reaffirm the spirituality inherent on the dance floor. Going to the club was a form of going to worship. That is how I always viewed it anyways.

There's a dual nature to this sort of thing; some people go out to have a spriritual experience, others think of it as just a good night out dancing. I'd be more likely to dismiss misplaced intentions in anything that's dancefloor-bound since there's less emphasis on lyrical content, but there are people who would view two distinct realms here: entertainment and serious religious content. They wouldn't show up to church high, and they wouldn't expect to be religious (moral) on the dancefloor.

On the other hand, I think that it's partially cultural relativism that leads people to think that a gospel choir is fine but MLK is not, or that sampled voices reading the Koran are fine when someone reading another text may not be due to a language barrier. Maybe it becomes a consensus issue, i.e. whatever doesn't offend my listeners, I can use.

There's a completely different context due to what level you understand the source content. Some Muslims felt offended by Eno and Byrne's sampling, and geeta (among others, I would bet) note an entirely different context to that Truth Hurts song. It's not really a cultural imperialism as much as it is a misunderstanding.

Don't mean to quote pop culture, but if you remember Ray the movie there was an incredible outpouring of rage when Ray Charles incorporated gospel into his music.

jacob i think this is the source of the ambivalence - a conflicting vision of spirituality as the result of and continuing precondition for reflection, inquiry and concentration vs. spirituality as a perhaps slightly ethnic "vibe" to be summoned with a button-push.

personally, reading what geeta said about the track and the origins of the sample was v interesting - i wasn't aware of it before, and it kind of enhanced it for me.

(i love the mix generally, even though i sometimes find plip-plop stuff a bit...impenetrable. it takes a while to lift off but after it does ('love song') it barely lets up! 'ichso' sounds amazing in this context, i love the donnacha costello and adam beyer tracks, and the closing song is heavenly.)

on saturday night, tim goldsworthy (or someone - i was fucked by then and couldn't have told you my own name let alone the dj's) closed the night with something unspeakably mental involving a recitation of psalm 23, which is/was as holy/meaningful to some people as the text sampled in 'father' is to geeta.

i'm not sure where i'm going with this other than maybe it's not so much that these examples are or could be potential egregiously cheap'n'thoughtless button-pushers, as that maybe we all hold certain things too dear to be used in this way? but that a massive amount of house/techno sampling is based on things in this vein?

it was 'blackout' by lil louis. last time i played that in london i got attacked by some girl who said it was unacceptable to bring religion to the dancefloor! funnily enough, someone said something similar to me in london on saturday when i played dimensional holofonic sound's 'house of god'.

i enjoyed those examples of religion on the dancefloor precisely because of my xtian upbringing, it's like oh look one more nail in that coffin muahahaha.

He thanks Jesus and the almighty creator on The Meaning (which is total e-as-sacrament house IMHO.)

'Blackout' such a grim track. The times I have heard it play out I couldn't help stop dancing, a shame really because musically it's brilliant.

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Kiki or Sacsha Funke or something else?

I always love that sound, it reminds me of My Bloody Valentine wooziness, and I actually wish producers would incorporate sounds like that into their tracks!

In fact it sometimes disapoints me when a track comes in, and then suddenly there's this really cool pitch-bend sound, and I think the whole track is going to sound like that, and then the next time the track get to the same part of the bar, I realise the track is a lot more boring than I hoped it would be.

I have nothing to add except I hope this has arrived for me when I get home tonight! (acquired a promo)

DJ Koze that exact 'twonking' technique on a bunch of his records! Gives it this great drunken lurching feel.

"(Bpitch) is setting the pace for virtually every form of techno that matters today." - Philip Sherburne, XLR8R

That said describing it (kiki mix) as a "fine, finnish pastry" wasn't quite OTM, but it still intrigued a little bit.

I am going to try Luciano's SciFiHiFi (again, I fell asleep on the plane to NYC listening to it, after taking a sleeping tablet) but I dunno, I love the Pier Bucci album, have gotten really into Dominik Eulberg, REALLY love "Octagonal" but beyond that can't get into Luciano or Villalobos.

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mmm, I don't think so (I would say dub values), but i'll start gathering wood so we can burn him at the rockism stake. ;)

something else i've noticed is a lot of incredibly rudimentary "effects" which i assume have been added to the mix via a sampler or sequencer ... he seems to use them like ragga DJs use their siren sound effects or whatever, to add an instant jolt of liveness to things, remind you that this is happening right now (and obv. also to create some drama or build-up that's not actually there in the record, when and if it's called for)

this is an actual real verb?

Copy-protected I think. It chokes up a load of white noise beginning at track 6 in Winamp and WM player. That'll teach me.

Boom, boom! (pun intentional?)

i still cant hear luciano so i still have nothign to say about that

but that fabric mix :o!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?"£!"?£!"?£!"$

But this mix... wheeee! *happy dance*

real spackle is made by drexciya and aux 88.

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on the subject of this thread, i'm still at the liking-a-lot-but-not-loving stage with scifihifi. guess it just needs more listens.

god knows how the mixmag readers are going to take him. did anyone see that article? it was... something.

I still love it.

oh, sorry it was DJ-Mag. Is that what it's called? The English one. The latest issue has a rather effusive feature on Luciano with some moody pics. i hope it wasn't written by anyone here!

DJ-Mag seems to inhabit a bizarro world where UK progressive house and trance DJs are still #1. it's really very strange to see them dealing with German minimal techno stuff with the same star DJ/having it/next big thing mindset.

I thought he played electro-clash/house... I can't keep up.

What kind of question is this? Are we in 2006? Or 1996?

I'm liking this Luciano mix. It's not too dissimilar from the Audion Fabric CD, except that mix has polarized this board whereas the Luciano one has received almost universal praise. But Audion's mix meanders and doesn't go anywhere AFAIC, unlike Luciano's -- so, mystery solved.

hi dere, outside of london this is still the case in clubland. therefore, the mags (all 2 of them haw haw) reflect this. minimal stuff here only makes it into big clubs at places where the audience go anyway and have no idea whos playing, they have very little draw on their own merits as far as i can tell.

Yo Ambrose I finally picked up Poker Flat Volume 4 cos I saw it cheap. I've listened to the first disc, it's okay I guess, but I love love love that Alexi Delano track! It's even more LFO/Forgemasters than any recent Get Physical!

Hahahah.

Another set has been posted here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HCK5RBWH

Update: Ambrose that Jeff Samuels mix is amazing! Nearly every track is a stunner! Actually it's a really good survey of current minimal, which is ironic considering it's all Poker Flat tracks. I also really like the Samuel tracks/remixes, maybe I'd just heard the wrong stuff cos I'd always found him too dry, but here he's all bouncy! Maybe's he like the Euro Derrick Carter.

DC-10 2006: Mixed By Luciano & Tania Vulcano

The irony is he's shoehorned himself into this scene anyway, he was electroclash 2 or 3 years ago, there's nothing wrong with evolving or changing but surely Villalobos and Luciano and co were playing minimal back then too?

the original is good too with more overt big room style. reminds a bit of "in white rooms" although this year i might say that about every record with the delayed one-note bass riff.

i was a naysayer but i 'got it' a month or so ago. before, i thought it was too fast, and that it didn't have much emotional depth. now i love it but not for any concrete reason (i am used to the tempo now, and i do know the songs. that could be enough). perhaps part of it is that i feel like there's been a dearth of good new mixes in the past month or two, so i've been going back to old MANDY sets and Eulberg and Sascha Funke and this.

And kind of the Magda mix too (can I just swap it for Min2Max? please?)

Her tune selection is always amazingness too. Equal parts impeccable current goodness and amazing "god what IS that record? I MUST have it" crate digging. Often I'll hardly manage to get bored of them before the next one comes along! ehh /offtopic ok

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CD1::Cadenza Contemporary 0.1
1. Argenis Brito – Amplified
2. Digitaline – Honolulu (Digitaline’s Kamehameha)
3. Petre Inspirescu – Racakadoom
4. Luciano&Digitaline–Honolulu (Luciano’s Liliukalani)
5. Andomat 3000 & Jan – L Delay
6. Rhadoo – Woa Ovuls
7. Petre Inspirescu – Galantar
8. Alejandro Vivanco – Madre Tierra
9. Luciano – Tonerres
10. Pikaya – Fango

CD 2:: Cadenza Classics
1. Luciano & Quenum – Orange Mistake
2. Luciano & Pier Bucci – Amael
3. Quenum & Lee Van Dowski – Extension
4. Lucicano & Serafin – Funk Excursion
5. N.S.I. – Max Binski
6. Luciano - Bomberos

coming out in november i think.

needs boxset treatment.

d(-_-)b

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that's as close as i can get to corkscrewing a hole