Scritti Politti - White Bread, Black Beer

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1. The Boom Boom Bap
2. No Fine Lines
3. Snow in Sun
4. Cooking
5. Throw
6. Dr. Abernathy
7. After Six
8. Empty
9. E11th Nuts
10. Window Wide Open
11. Road to No Regret
12. Kylie Ballad
13. Mrs. Hughes
14. Robin Hood

RTRADCD270, release date April 10.

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

That voice, swoon. Current favourite is "E11th Nuts", maybe the most electronic track. In all, a great comeback.

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

I really thought Anomie was a hesitant wash, so is this notably different?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

"The Boom Boom Bap"? A sequel to "Boom! There She Goes"?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

what is the source of the album title?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Source is official Rough Trade promo CD-R. It's a very different album to Anomie, with Green singing gentle songs over mostly quite subtle production/arrangements. His (multi-tracked) voice takes center stage throughout. No noticeable hip-hop influence other than a Brand Nubian quote in "Dr. Abernathy"...

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I clean my gun with a riprod
Here comes the God who don't eat pig lard

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

i like it already!

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

(Oh, and the beats of the last minute-and-half of "Mrs. Hughes" could be considered hip-hop derived - Mos Def nowhere to be seen, anyway).

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ Andy. It's actually "punks jump up to get beat down".

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

I assume "Kylie Ballad" is better than the actual Kylie ballad on Body Language to which he contributed vocals.

― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

damn, I was just about to say KYLIE BALLAD?!?!?!

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Hyperfuckingventilating, to say the least.

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

I am the world's only source to the new Scritti album, am I not? This would have pleased the teenage JoB from the '80s no end.

"Kylie Ballad" lyric quote: People want a part of you but who they get is never who you seem / (Who she seems) / But when I'm with you baby, I know just who I am / And no-one understands the way that you do, darling

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Currently playing low-key shows in London as "Double-G and the Traitorous Three". Saw him/them a few weeks back, and was very impressed indeed. Very un-hiphop, and much more abrasive than any of the post-Songs To Remember stuff, though not as spiky as the early records. Lots of very short (2-minute-or-less) songs with odd structures (not yr normal verse/chorus type affairs). "The Boom Boom Bap" was a definite stand out.

― harvey.w (harvey.w), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Can we start talking about a N American tour (that will probably come nowhere near me!).

― peepee (peepee), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

re: I am the world's only source to the new Scritti album, am I not?

correct, no mention on google, yahoo or on meta search engine: clusty

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

oof, bad title.

― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure what I'm most psyched about, this or the Scott Walker album.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

March 30 Amsterdam show! See you there...

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

― mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm playing keyboards in the live band; having heard the album I can confidently say that yep, the songs are stunning. Dr Abernathy is a blast!

― Rhodri (rhodri), Sunday, 19 March 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

Ex-fucking-cited here.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 19 March 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

(Unnecessary Gossip) Word on the street is that Green got married recently. That's all I have found out the album, which is nothing.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 19 March 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

The enthusiastic nature of this thread is contagious. *bangs gavel*

― The Sound of Walls (Bimble...), Sunday, 19 March 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmmmmm... Green.. Grooooo

― Mads Storm Andersen, Sunday, 19 March 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wow! I am so curious how it will sound. Since Green uses Reason music-software there's a chance he uses one of my sounds :)

That really would be something. But well, I think it will be another unique Scritti album anyway. With the sweetest voice!

/Marco

― Marco Raaphorst, Sunday, 19 March 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

This all very exciting. Come, let us have the album !

― Ernst Overbosch, Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

www.cdon.com has the album title as...white BEER black beer.........

― justin bindley, Monday, 20 March 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Hefeweizen Stout

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

hi!!!
what does "WOOD BEEZ" mean?
tks
Pedro.

― pedro, Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

would be's.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

"Wood Beez" is lesbian slang for the sexual act of a woman inserting her strap-on dildo in the anus of another woman.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

"There's nothing I wouldn't take.."

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah a new album. The last one was a mess wasn't it? Some nice stuff, but it just sounded like dicking around in a studio with no focus.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

I hear that Aretha Franklin was fond of this practice.

No, I don't know if it she was giving or recieving...

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

lol bouncing back

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

Well if you pray like AF, you'd be on yr knees. Fillintherestyersel'

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but it's "each time I go to bed I pray like Aretha Franklin". IN BED!

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Then again..."There's nothing I wouldn't take / Oh, even intravenous"

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

exactly.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Article in a spanish music site, Zona Musical (www.zm.nu):

http://zm.nu/detalle.php?base=zmnews&lay=cgi&form=detalle&tok4=notici&tok5=&id=13407

― Juan Rebenaque, Saturday, 8 April 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Just was curious...are you all understanding what the Boom Bap is? And the significance of the band's name?

― Lawrence, Monday, 10 April 2006 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

Well, 'Boom Bap' means hard beats (unless there's another definition I'm aware of), and Scritti Politti refers to Gramsci's political writings.

What are you getting at?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 10 April 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

I just find it odd that someone said there was no hip-hop influence, when there's such a noticeable one. Boom Boom Bap is a paean to hip-hop entirely! "The 'Yes, yes, y'all!' was the siren call...", and so on...and yeah, the "boom boom bap" is a hip-hop beat. And in "Double G And The Traitorous 3 (Plus 2)", we have nods to both Double D and The Funky Four (Plus 1). And so on...

― Lawrence, Monday, 10 April 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think the release date might have been delayed...

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's June 5, in the UK at least.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

is "traitorous" even a word?...

― hank (hank s), Monday, 10 April 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

Have seen the track is featured on the Q top 50 downloads but has no address to download it,where can I get it?

― Joel Martin, Monday, 10 April 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

Is it actually possible this record is good? 'Anomie and Bonhomie'was an aural abortion, I couldn't make it through three tracks. Some of the worst production I've ever heard.

― I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 10 April 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Boom Boom Bap:
http://homepage.mac.com/johnhyde/iMovieTheater327.html

― hangthedj (hangthedj), Monday, 10 April 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Love that tune.

― Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

If you like Scritti the voice you'll like the album, cos its well voiced, and there is some nice stuff there - but its a little under worked and I'd have rather seen him try to go down a more commercial route, but hey ho.

― garax lord snowy cadet, Friday, 14 April 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

'underworked' sounds like a good approach to me. in general.

― Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Some of Anomie and Bonhomie was pretty good, imho!

― Father Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

I agree "Brushed with Oil....."is one of his most beautiful songs ever,roll on the 24th!!

― joel martin, Sunday, 16 April 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

The definitive tracklist in Zona Musical (www.zm.nu):
http://zm.nu/detalle.php?base=zmnews&lay=cgi&form=detalle&tok4=notici&tok5=Noticias&id=13542

― Juan Rebenaque, Monday, 17 April 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Boom Boom Bap" es fantastico.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 17 April 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

it really is a great song.

― dan (dan), Monday, 17 April 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

fuck YES it is .. wow, I am really excited about this.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 17 April 2006 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://bibbly-o-tek.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/whitebreadblackbeer.jpg

That's the cover. No, really.

― Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 28 April 2006 05:52 (nineteen years ago)

That's really cool. I really would like to know what this sounds like, despite not caring about a Scritti Politti album for twenty years.

― honorary joy division roadie (Bimble...), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

we've put some video's of recent live-shows on the new Scritti blog:
http://bibbly-o-tek.com/

Check it out, I think you will love it!

― Marco Raaphorst, Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

i love this album so very very much

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

According to Amazon.com, it looks like no U.S. release, only the June 8th European release. Anyone have any other information that may refute this? I'd LOVE to not have to pay $25 plus shipping for the damn thing. (By the way, promo copies have been going on eBay for over 100 pounds!)

― Matthew Holley, Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot wait to hear this new album
Anomie & Bonhomie was a mish mash of styles
Still I've been a fan so long i'll ride those peaks & troughs!!!!

― never-a-dull-moment, Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

this sounded amazing on first listen yesterday - somehow i'd been anticipating that most of the album would be scratchy lo-fi stuff (because of the gigs, i guess), so to hear something so luscious was a great surprise.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 19 May 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

I still think the title is more "Chas and Dave"

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:01 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Green Gartside sure has proved in the past that he may make excellent music. So if he will just tone down the rapping slightly, and use synths to the same extent he used to do in the 80s, then I guess the new album may be OK again, unlike the disappointing "Anomie and Bonhomie".

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

US release via Nonesuch in late July. Lots more info here: bibbly-o-tek.com

― rrrmmmhhh, Sunday, 21 May 2006 06:54 (nineteen years ago)

geir, i predict you will love this album. it is entirely beach boys-esque in places...

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Sunday, 21 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

reviewed in OMM
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/reviews/story/0,,1777081,00.html

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 21 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

The review seems promising. If the album sounds anything like "Cupid & Psyche" and "Provision", it will be a welcome return to form.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 21 May 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

live scritti politti on mark radcliffe show tonight

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/radcliffe/
10.30pm - midnight

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

NOW !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

The review seems promising. If the album sounds anything like "Cupid & Psyche" and "Provision", it will be a welcome return to form.

And if it does something bold, new and wonderful, that's okay too.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Love the new album. Green has a voice that makes you want to melt! I'm purring like a cat

― Antony level, Monday, 29 May 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

And if it does something bold, new and wonderful, that's okay too.

Only if it's wonderful, something which bold and new stuff rarely tend to be.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 29 May 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Is it just me who isn't really feeling this record? "The Boom Boom Bap" is one of the best and most affecting things he's ever done, but I think my initial overestimation of the album was down to basic "he's back" relief. The rest of it is pleasant enough, but I'm not sure it's anything more than that.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 06:42 (nineteen years ago)

I know what Marcello is getting at. Very tempting to dish out hosannas just on hearing That Voice again, which if anything is more sumptious than it's ever been. Listening to thw album does feel like eating a very large cream cake.

But there is some great writing in there too, amidst all the prettiness. And not just in "Boom Boom Bap" (his greatest ever song, I think). I'm thinking of the extraordinary "Cooking" in particular. "Dr Abernathy" also has more to it than at first meets the ear. The whole of the first half is strong, in fact.

― Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

oh and technical notes:

Track 8 is now called "Petrococadollar", and track 12 is "Locked"
The artwork (in the didgipack version anyway) is great!

― Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

(I have got this record.)

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Noel,

I would like to swap my mint condition White Bread Black Beer for a mint condition Cuckooland by Robert Wyatt.

Any takers?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

The banker is offering you:

Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone wants to privately send a track from this album, I'll let you think of ways for me to repay your kindness.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'll play on.

[Applause]

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I think I'm better off with this album than with Cuckooland.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I've heard about half of it now and I don't think there's anything really wrong with it. I can understand folks who say "more synths!" but I find the lazy, minimal summer breeze easiness of it seductive.

― Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 June 2006 07:35 (nineteen years ago)

"The Boom Boom Bap" is marvelous.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

I roadtested it on my Discman while wandering around London this hot and sunny weekend. It does have charm and meaning in that context but I'm still not convinced about its worth as a whole. I will think it through on CoM at some point this week, though.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 June 2006 06:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still undecided, but after a few listens I'll submit that it sounds like the Magnetic Fields' best album.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

no one else has a kinda "oof, bad trip hop" reaction to this, as steadfastly green gartside as green gartside might be?

― tom west (thomp), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

definitely a fair-weather album, as Marcello opined...if you're in a good mood, it will certainly put a little more pep in your step...if you're in a blah mood, this ain't the record to turn that frown upside down...a pleasant listen, but no uplifting qualities whatsoever...(hmmm, this also describes my perception of Green Gartside, for what it's worth)...

― hank (hank s), Friday, 9 June 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

At its best it sounds like a Stephen Merritt collab with William Orbit in 1997.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Some great songs and Greens voice is lovely doing those BB's harmonies but the albums as a whole has a "cheap / under-worked / demo-like" sound to it I find a bit hard to like.

― MusicLover1970 (MusicLover1970), Saturday, 10 June 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

the songs are wonderful (they're like xtc-lite, without the cloyingness) but the production feels too laptoppy and half-assed.

― intensity in tent cities (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

"Lap Toppy And Half Assed"

That's pretty good.

― Trend Bucking, Bend Trucking (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, the next time you have to say something to your friend you don't want to say you just say "Hey, I don't mean to get all laptoppy and half assed on you, but..."

― Trend Bucking, Bend Trucking (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

i love it. i'd like to hear what it would have sounded like with a budget and a producer and a studio, but i doubt i'd enjoy it as much.

― dan (dan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

"Snow in sun" is so pretty.

― Roz (Roz), Sunday, 11 June 2006 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I like the album enough to keep playing it a few times in a row, that's all I know for now.

― Trend Bucking, Bend Trucking (Bimble...), Sunday, 11 June 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

there is a small piece at the back of today's scottish news of the world about scritti politti, written by a friend of mine. apparently green's playing his first-ever scottish gig this/next month. it has the couldn't-make-it-up headline "NOW IT'S ... SCOT-TI POLITTI".

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 11 June 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

oh where's the gig do you know?

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 11 June 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

hang on ... [rustle, rustle] ... the liquid room, edinburgh, on august 7 (as part of T on the fringe). tickets on sale tomorrow (mon). call 0870 169 0100 or go to

― a public-service announcement brought to you by grimly fiendish inc (grimlord), Sunday, 11 June 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

eh? where did my fucking link go?

i meant to say "go to the T on the fringe website"

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 11 June 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

You're trying to make me jealous again Grimly!! GRRRRRRRRRRRR

You already saw A Certain Ratio! You've had your day in the sun already, it's not fair.

― Fryin' Berry, Buck Cherry (Bimble...), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

There's no domestic release date is there - for White Bread, Black Beer, there's no U.S. release is there? eh? See I told you I'm cursed.

I'm listening to a song on BBC Radio 6 "Nemone:the Dream Ticket" this show from 6th of June with the La's and Icicle Works and they even played a smashing Ian Dury track that made me die for a moment. And now I'm hearing what sounds like a new band but I can't figure out who it is. And I want to kill them for not publishing the tracklisting properly. My friend is a German guy in his 40's who gets to watch the world cup in so many different cool locations in his home town.

I have much to be jealous of. Also global warming is making Seattle greyer than it should be. It poured down rain Friday night. IN JUNE. It's a sin. A SIN I say. You do not pour down rain in Seattle in June without expecting a beating in an alley by the pub. God's arse needs a whoopin'.

― Fryin' Berry, Buck Cherry (Bimble...), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Still, I get to see Buzzcocks at the end of July, not bad for a yank in 2006, eh?

― Fryin' Berry, Buck Cherry, Bryan Ferry, Chuck Berry (Bimble...), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

thanks for that info, grimly!

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 12 June 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

I sold my copy of this album. I kept thinking of Green Gartside as The Human Worming Pill and it put me off.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 12 June 2006 07:32 (nineteen years ago)

Why do you buy stuff and sell it a couple of days later, PJM? You're always saying this.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Monday, 12 June 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a great way to make a living.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 June 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

No, I usually take them back to the shop.

I had this one for at least a week, if not two, and listened to it enough to know I was never going to really like it.

It's not a great way to make a living, no, but in this case I was just cutting my losses.

With DVDs, I buy them, watch them and then sell them, and it works out about the same as renting them.

Same with books, except people aren't so keen on buying those.

I am de-cluttering my life.

Which raise the question, why do I clutter it in the first place? Boredom, I suppose.

None of it is a good advertisement for my mental health, but still.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 12 June 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Just spoke to the fella in Ripping Records, the tickets for the t on the fringe gig should be in on Wednesday or Thursday.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Green live in a lift, as up close as you've ever seen him...

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

that's a great video!

― dan (dan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

uk tour on sale today... apparently they played "the sweetest girl" at hay on wye a couple of weeks ago.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 16 June 2006 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

oh and that video is awesome!

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'd better go and get my ticket tomorrow. I mentioned the gig to a friend last night and now neither of us can get 'wood beez' out of our heads.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

I've got a burn of this on the way! I'm excited, even if it turns out not to be as great as "Cupid," like what could be?

Now, is you guys yankin' my chain about "wood beez" and the 'Retha strap-on thing?

As I type, I rest my coffee mug on a plastic Scritti "Anomie Bonhomie" coaster I got years ago! But I never heard the album!

― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Bought it today.

First of all, I like this album. I really like it. A great pop album all the way through.

That being said, apart from Green's voice, it sounds nothing like Scritti Politti to me. For instance, it must be the first ever Scritti Politti album completely devoid of reggae-influenced upbeats.

Never before has Green been so musically close to the Pet Shop Boys/Saint Etienne/Lightning Seeds/Gangway/Prefab Sprout kind of pop - keyboard based but sophisticated and melodic.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

As I type, I rest my coffee mug on a plastic Scritti "Anomie Bonhomie" coaster I got years ago! But I never heard the album!

Having just listened again this weekend, I can assure you, that's no coaster...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

OK, just got the record today! and shit, I like it!! it's basic, but god the melodies are great! this might turn out to be my summer record, along with Lone Official's awesome "Tuckassee Take," which might well be the greatest record ever made by a Nashville rock band. (just to make a perhaps insupportable statement, but what the hell, the sun is out in Nashville, and I'm in a rare great mood. drinking some iced tea resting on my "coaster," NTI....:)

― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I have it now , and it's great! Really looking forward to getting deeper into this.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 07:01 (nineteen years ago)

I got my ticket on Saturday, will pick up the album soon.

― leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

Can I just use this opportunity to bitch about the fact that this isn't out in the U.S.? I really like it enough to buy it and be a good citizen but 30 fackin' dollars?? It's so unfair.

― Vampire Business (Bimble...), Sunday, 25 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's got a real "Wild Honey" kinda vibe. "Snow in Sun" and "Cooking" are my faves right now.

― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

i just cannot get into this for some reason. i utterly hate "boom boom bap," and while i like the rest of it, there's something preventing me from loving it. it's a little too...thin? empty? sketchy? neither here nor there?

― Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 June 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I was wrong about this album. But then you knew that already. It is quite sad, in a way that sets it apart from Simply Red (that last bit for PF, who says it sounds like Simply Red). I apologise to Mr Gartside for calling him the Human Worming Pill. It was entirely the fault of Mr Reynolds' s book anyway, which put me off my tea with its descriptions of Scritt anarcho-filth.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 30 June 2006 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

I'm pleased to say I suddenly found this for a much better price than $30. Yay!

― Vampire Business (Bimble...), Friday, 30 June 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

Pause & Play shows a US release date of July 25 (on Nonesuch).

― Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Saturday, 1 July 2006 02:31 (eighteen years ago)

Woah! Jeff! Was thinking about you just the other day and how I didn't expect I'd see you 'round these parts again! I wrote you re:latest Church album maybe a month back, didn't hear back.

― Vampire Business (Bimble...), Sunday, 2 July 2006 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

Much like Green, Jeff is a man of exquisite taste and refinement.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 2 July 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago)

I bet he knows how cool the power pop of American 70's band the Quick is.

Also I just wanted him to know that even though we used to argue about who was the greatest guitarist in the world (I said Johnny Marr, he said Vini Reilly) I concede defeat. Vini Reilly is indeed the best guitarist in the world.

― Vampire Business (Bimble...), Sunday, 2 July 2006 05:31 (eighteen years ago)

I got the 7" single version.

Wither any chart position?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 3 July 2006 07:35 (eighteen years ago)

Your verb is appropriate.

Possibly selling fewer copies than the new Beth Orton single.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 July 2006 09:54 (eighteen years ago)

I love the little badge pictured inside the sleeve that says "Double G and the Traitorous 3". Something about that and the rough drawing of him opposite makes me feel like a little kid.

― Vampire Business (Bimble...), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 01:29 (eighteen years ago)

Wait - there's something magical that happens between Mrs. Hughes and Robin Hood. It just sweeps the rest of the album under the floor, it gets really FUNKY all of a sudden. But then it ends and Robin Hood is brilliant in its own right.

― Lenny Koggins (Bimble...), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

Next time you're stuck in traffic, frustrated -

"It's GREEN you dipshit! GREEN!"

― Lenny Koggins (Bimble...), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:53 (eighteen years ago)

Of course my favourite song in the world is New Order "Everything's Gone Green"

― Lenny Koggins (Bimble...), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I've been listening to it for a week or two. The problem here is the production I'm afraid. But it's good. Quite good. And Dr. Abernathy is stuck in me head now.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

My problem with it is, it's sneaky. It slips by my unconscious, real subtle. And the next thing I know I can hear a lot of the songs in my head. And then I find that even the boring parts are seeping into my brain like cement.

― Lenny Koggins (Bimble...), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

Of course my favourite song in the world is New Order "Everything's Gone Green"

-- Lenny Koggins (bimble87...), July 4th, 2006.

Mine too!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 05:47 (eighteen years ago)

Great, uplifting album. "Dr Abernathy" reminds me of Elliott Smith ca. XO.

― willem -- (willem), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 05:58 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know about uplifting. Whar made me start to like it was when I suddenly clocked all of its sadness.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, so it'll be even better in the time to come! (when I listen to music I hardly pay attention to the lyrics so if (if) I do get something out of them it's mostly only after I've heard the music numerous times)

― willem -- (willem), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

He's on tour at the moment, is he worth spending £18 (well £36 for two) on to see live seeing as he's barely ever performed live in the last 26 years?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

It's worth it for ILM Credibility Points alone!

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Haha. well, I just managed to get some free tickets, so I guess I'll be going now, I'll let you know if he's up to snuff.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 6 July 2006 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

Free tickets = extra points!

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

So who was there last night

He did pretty much all the new album, the same couple of rap-rock covers (I think) from Luminaire gigs, and three 'former life' songs: 'Skank Bloc Bologna', 'Sweetest Girl' and 'Wood Beez'.

SBB: Meanderingly, spikily wonderful - I hope FF and Maximo Park were there at the back taking notes on what post-punk really means

T'S'G: Faithful to the original, but a bit more skank-heavy which gave it some extra lift.

WB: We all thought he'd 'do' the unreleased STR-era band version, but to everyone's surprise they did a fantastic job of replicating the single, complete with live drum fills, trills and keyboards solo.

― darren (darren), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 08:15 (eighteen years ago)

I spotted Toby there. And a fella who looked like the decaying body of Errol Flynn/Ron Mael. Sadly no Princess Di hairdos to be seen - just lots of foax who looked like they might be professors of cultural studies at provincial universities.

I enjoyed the King Crimson feel they brought to SpagBol Bologna and the Dave Gilmour guitar employed on Wood Beez! Disappointed they didn't do Locked.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

just lots of foax who looked like they might be professors of cultural studies at provincial universities.

That really is the pot calling the kettle black, Jerry - unless you didn't have your glasses on.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:11 (eighteen years ago)

Sadly no Princess Di hairdos to be seen

Ooh I definitely saw a couple of gel-heavy flicks.

Green really objected to cries of Hypnotize, Absolute, etc. Oh please, he kept saying, as though about to explode. He looks quite hard, and I'd have loved to see him actually go down into the crowd and say 'that's shouting for the old stuff' in his sweetest, soothingest, American choirgirlest voice as he planted his head in their chest.

― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

That "Early" CD is £6.99 in the Virgin sale.

Too expensive for me!

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

I think Fopp has the 80s ones for a fiver each.

― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:14 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe no Princess Di lookalikes, but there was one bloke about three rows in who had a hair/jacket/tie combination straight out of Talk Talk circa 1982 if that's any help.

― darren (darren), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

I spotted Toby there

ah, i thought i saw you push past me at one point.

SBB was amazing, i thought. in fact the whole gig was great. i hope they play more old stuff in the future - not because the new stuff isn't great, but just because there's so many great songs they've never played.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

Green really objected to cries of Hypnotize, Absolute, etc. Oh please, he kept saying, as though about to explode

I was pondering earlier on how many times I've heard someone shout for a song at a gig, and the band say "oh, good idea, all right then," and then play it. Not many.

I also imagine that shouting for old stuff can come across as code for "your new stuff is crap", even if that's not what was intended. Someone shouted for "Mrs Hughes" in Portsmouth, bless them, and boosted morale tenfold.

― Rhodri (rhodri), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i think that's exactly right. it came across as really rude to keep shouting, when it obviously made green uncomfortable, and it's hard to imagine that you were about to launch into an unrehearsed version of "absolute" or whatever, anyway.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 13 July 2006 06:58 (eighteen years ago)

Playing "Early" the other day, was thinking "They really should do "Confidence" there's nothing wrong with this song at all"

(context: Green thinks a lot of his early stuff was trying too hard. Confidence is certainly relaxed in style.)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 13 July 2006 07:18 (eighteen years ago)

>>I was pondering earlier on how many times I've heard someone shout for a song at a gig, and the band say "oh, good idea, all right then," and then play it. Not many.

But it's always great when they do, isn't it? I saw Richard Hawley play a show a couple of weeks back. When the band reappeared for the encore, he announced "right, now we're gonna play some rockabilly. Anything anyone wants to hear?" A punter piped up with "Mystery Train", to which Richard responded with, "oh, nice one!" and started playing it, much to the bemusement of his combo, who had clearly rehearsed "That's All Right" for this spot. Still, being pros they caught on remarkably quickly (c'mon, it's not a tricky number to play).

A great live moment. Spontaneity is great.

― harvey.w (harvey.w), Thursday, 13 July 2006 07:47 (eighteen years ago)

Rhodri, I know it's rare for a band to agree to do a song based on audience shouts, but my comment was more about Green's incredibly awkward reaction - he seemed to take it as a genuine affront, whereas most bands, singers etc will just laugh it off.

― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Thursday, 13 July 2006 08:23 (eighteen years ago)

I would like to play "Mystery Train".

I will have to make do with listening to it.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

but most bands etc don't avoid playing live for 26 years due to stage fright, though...

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 13 July 2006 11:11 (eighteen years ago)

I take that point, completely, Toby.

― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Thursday, 13 July 2006 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

I just bought the record, and so far I like it a lot. Several people here -- e.g., JoB, I.M., Intensity In Tent Cities, Esteban Buttez -- didn't like the way the album was produced (although they apparently all thought the songs were strong). I'm curious. What about the production didn't you like? What sounds, techniques or flourishes would you have put in? What would you have taken out?

I'm not trying to be critical at all. I'm just interested in learning more about how production techniques affect the sound and mood of a record.

― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

my friend is in this band. this 'Green' chap is a bit of a prat, i hear.

― teh_kit haev been evicted, oh noes! (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

i actually wrote a review of this this week that unfortunately didn't have enough space to be much more than a retelling of the scritti story for americans who only know "perfect way." but the one thing i noticed in the writing of it--considering i used the word "brilliant" to describe it--is that i realize i've actually come to love this album.

it actually reminded me that when i first heard cupid and psyche as a grown up, having not heard it since i was probably 10, and after falling in love with the first scritti records in my early 20s, that i just could not get my head around it. like, how synthetic it was. it actually took some time to acclimate myself to, to immerse myself in, and now of course it's one of my favorite records. white bread was the exact same thing, except instead of having to work my way around the immense and inhuman surface of it, i needed to acclimate myself to the kind of spare, tossed-off qualities of the songwriting and the production.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

haha when i also planned on writing the review, ages ago, i had no idea this album was going to be written about so much! especially in america. this must be more (good) press (over here, anyway) than he's gotten since c & s. (i mean, the new yorker and the times??)

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, you feel like the songwriting is tossed-off?

The production style is one of my favorite things about this, but I can see how it might be strange for some. This sounds like a back-room home-computer recording, only not in the cruddy/hissy way people associated with home recording during the tape era; this sounds like software effects, USB guitar inputs, pantyhose windscreens, lots of mouse clicks, and no staff. And I think that's terrific, really, because it makes this one of the first albums I've heard where homemade process goes together with a kind of big-studio ambition: it has that intimate feeling, the one-person's-labor charm, but that's coexisting with that one person making an effort at really luscious sounds. There's something nice about hearing those stabs at sparkle and swoon in this setting, rather than always hearing them with a massive budget somewhere behind them.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

when i say "songwriting" i think i mean to include the production. i don't think you can extricate them in this instance.

i've grown to like it, obviously! i think i said something like "hissing of the tea-kettle blending with the hissing of the drum machine's high hats." it feels very wombing and domesticated, very much like large parts of it were written in those golden, late afternoon moments when you're not sure if you want a nap or not.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

(it's pretty perfect as nap music, btw. a positive.)

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

"Road to No Regret" is the most poignant number, "Robin Hood" the perfect closer.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

Yes yes, totally -- I seriously can't help but imagine him recording most of this around 4:30pm in winter, staring out the window with a cat in his lap.

It still always "reminds" me of XTC's Oranges and Lemons, which is odd because Oranges and Lemons always seemed influenced by old Scritti.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

xpost!!

i also agree with whoever said it reminded them of xtc. it reminds me very much of a digital version of the apple venus/wasp star stuff. plus i am a sucker for pop music that manages to deal with middle age and settling down without coming off like, well, how most pop music comes off when dealing with middle age and settling down. the whole "this is where green shucks his language games and gets down to the nitty gritty" subtext is sorta heightened by his age. there's something charming about someone writing their first stabs at a straightforward lovesong at 51.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

haha get out of my brain nitsuh

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

also, yes, quite a sad record. i think i would identify with it even more than i do if it had come out in one of my, uh, heroic drinking periods.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

Several people here -- e.g., JoB, I.M., Intensity In Tent Cities, Esteban Buttez -- didn't like the way the album was produced (although they apparently all thought the songs were strong).

i take it back. i've really come around to it! i've been playing this record a ton lately. my favorite bit is the "no one underSTANDS me like you DO" part at the end of "locked."

― Jonas Bronck (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

definition of a grower.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

i also agree with whoever said it reminded them of xtc.

xtc and... simon and garfunkel.

― Jonas Bronck (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

hmmm. yes.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.slate.com/id/2146447/

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Copied over from Rolling London Gigging Thread for those that may not know:

Anyone up for this?:

Late at Tate Britain

Friday 4 August 2006, 18.00–22.00

Short listed for the 2006 Nationwide Mercury Prize, Scritti Politti play in the open air (weather permitting!) in a Rough Trade showcase, with support from The Long Blondes and 1990s, plus a DJ set from Ben Ayres (Cornershop). Bar and barbecue outside. See the Constable: The Great Landscapes and Howard Hodgkin exhibitions for half price, and enjoy the summer, while it lasts.

Performance times (approx):
18.00–18.45 DJ
18.45–19.30 1990s
19.45–20.30 The Long Blondes
20.45–21.30 Scritti Politti

http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/eventseducation/lateattatebritain/lateattatebritain2006august.htm

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

deej are you just mass spaming that link today?

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

My favorite bit = "hold my fucking hands."

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

"hold my fucking hands."

haha yup

― Jonas Bronck (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

took her
to the
jersey
shore

― Jonas Bronck (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

I will certainly be at the Tate show.

JBR is right about 'Locked' - I love the guitar on that song.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

deej are you just mass spaming that link today?

I was trying to think of how to work it into the rolling stones thread but it seemed a little forced.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

white britons playing black america music! not exactly a stretch.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

white britons: playing black american music so white americans don't have to.

― Jonas Bronck (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

so where can i find an mp3 of the 1982 version of "wood beez"?!

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

Haha the 'hold my fucking hands' bit makes me cringe every time.

I find his voice a bit cloying on this record.

― robert in SLC (robert in SLC), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

Toby: http://bibbly-o-tek.com/audio/

― robert in SLC (robert in SLC), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

This is the far away Tate, isn't it? I would like to go. Except I ph3ar the other acts.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 06:25 (eighteen years ago)

We're often told that the music press is dead and places like ILM are where really substantial music talk is going on, but what really startles me about this thread is a total absence of any talk of thematics. Okay, not total, because David Allen Grier talks about the theme of middle age. But surely any longterm Scritti fan would want to ask how this record fits into the unfolding Scritlock narrative of:

NARCISSISM / SICKNESS / SWEETNESS / EQUALITY

So I, as someone who's only heard session tracks so far, would like to put this question to the people who've been living with the record for a while now, because I think it's crucial. And I don't just mean "What do the lyrics say?" Because I think music and lyrics and production all hold each other in place in a subtle dynamic. For instance, there's always been a "mirrors and coke" element to Green's work ("I am my own ideal") which he's always offset by mentions of sickness on the one hand, and political engagement on the other. So does this offsetting still work? Does he "still support the revolution"? Or has that part of the Scritti equation narrowed down to a vague nostalgia for Robin Hood? And if so, is the sweetness / narcissism / sickness part still bearable? Didn't it need to be held in counterbalance with something?

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 06:52 (eighteen years ago)

Funnily enough, I spent an enjoyably boozy afternoon with GG a couple of months ago during which he told me that the original title for the record was 'Is Richard Rorty Right or Wrong?'. His missus had to talk him out of it. Doesn't really answer your question, except in an implicit way, but I thought you would enjoy the anecdote, Momus. But really, Kerplunk and Grimey Simey have been worrying the thematix to death.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 07:05 (eighteen years ago)

For instance: "I find his voice a bit cloying on this record." That's interesting. His voice really hasn't changed at all, but what has changed is the way its sweetness was counterbalanced, before, by hardness. Sweetness, when it isn't held in place by hardness texturally, gets "cloying". There's no way Green hasn't thought about these issues. Any artist has to. And it would be interesting if, for instance, this album won the Mercury Prize, to see whether a decision on Green's part to let a sort of fragmented consumerist narcissism triumph on the new record, untempered by the equality and hardness parts he incorporated before, was actually massively endorsed by a fragmented, consumerist-narcissist Britain.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 07:05 (eighteen years ago)

Xposted. Interesting, Jerry. And my question was also about whether a BB really can replace a good critic / magazine review. Will investigate those links now.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 07:06 (eighteen years ago)

Simon Reynolds quotes Barney Hoskyns quotes Green:

"And as regards, say, the "sweetness" of 'The "Sweetest Girl"'... well, I think there is a dirt, a criminality if you like, in sweetness itself"--Green Gartside

(from Scritti Politti interview by Barney Hoskyns, NME, 31 October 1981)

BANG! There it is. A beautiful answer to my question. Although it steers me in the direction of "guilty pleasures", and I resist that, because it simply re-inscribes puritanism rather than offering a way out of it.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 07:19 (eighteen years ago)

(Incidentally, what connects RR to GG here is "Trotsky and the Wild Orchids". )

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 07:24 (eighteen years ago)

Simon's piece is great -- "White Bread: you could say that Green removes the wholesome Grain of the Voice as theorised by Barthes". But the fact that he refers so much to Hoskyns, and digs up everything of worth from the post-structuralist music press in the early 1980s, suggests that maybe the sort of thematics I'm looking for is living forever in 1983, just as rock music is living forever in 1969. When you can't outdo a Hendrix or a Hoskyns, why even try? It's all a Dicrescenzo after that. Just buy the ringtones and organize the festival tickets.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 07:44 (eighteen years ago)

I think the first song is about the murder of that man out of Run DMC and it is very very sad.

Perhaps that is blindingly obvious, which might be why I haven't read it anywhere, in which case I shall retire to the cloakroom.

The Rorty title is much better than the eventual title.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 09:02 (eighteen years ago)

I still don't like the production but by golly, it's a grower of an album.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 10:15 (eighteen years ago)

(Even through I recognise and appreciate the "Home Computer and USB Guitar Cables" in the back room production feel of it.)

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 10:17 (eighteen years ago)

listen to the record, momus! i bet you'd like it a lot.

― dan (dan), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

does anyone else have the urge to sing "get up, stand up" along with the end of "mrs. hughes"?

― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

My problem with the album is not enough dirt and criminality; that and the "home computer and USB guitar cable" production (in Esteban's wonderful phrase) mute the album's impact.

Does he "still support the revolution"? Or has that part of the Scritti equation narrowed down to a vague nostalgia for Robin Hood?

It's clear that "Robin Hood" is a call-to-arms of sorts. As I wrote in my review, I haven't hears lyrics all year as poignant as "I’ve been wishing my life away/For Robin Hood to be king one day/We’ll share the treasures of the world/I will get the girl." The revolution no longer has world-historic intentions (if it ever did); now it's a cheerful, mildly Walt Disney-ish exhortation to embrace positive thinking.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

Is the USB cable production noticeable if you don't know it's USB production? I think not.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

by the way that was nitsuh not esteban.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

If this a grower, it could be easily my favourite of the year, since I've only heard it once, and I instantly liked cca. the 50% of the songs.

― zeus (zeus), Thursday, 3 August 2006 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

I may venture to the Tate Modern gig.

Though the Rotunda information desk should have been renamed the Brewski Point.

And really the tickets should have gone on sale via British Home Stores in Hackney.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone going to the show tonight?

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 7 August 2006 08:29 (eighteen years ago)

The Tate gig was great--Scritti and Long Blondes both fantastic--thank fuck I was on the guest list though the as queue for tickets was about 2000 people long and it would have been nowhere near as good if I wasn't on the little patch of grass in front of the stage. I kept an eye out for any ILXors but didn't see any :(

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

Is the USB cable production noticeable if you don't know it's USB production? I think not.

I think it's somewhat noticeable, yeah -- both the feel of the production and the arrangements have that quality, the sound and vibe of one guy with an upscale home-computer recording set-up. That isn't a bad thing. Most people wouldn't associate that sound with any technology in particular -- the record would just have a certain feel to it -- but the feel of softsynths and modeling software and so on is all in there.

The main clue to this kind of stuff is that digital recording can give you really slick, clean sounds without making a big production of it -- so you'll get an album like this, where it feels very bedroomy and one-man (no big arrangements, fairly small number of parts, only "played" instruments are guitar and voice), and yet the sounds are those of what once might have been a big-budget studio production. Plus there's just the basic set-up, where it's one guy programming pop songs with software and then recording in vocals and guitar.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

2000 people in the queue, eh? By coincidence, that's how many copies the album has sold. Good heavens.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

my friend is in this band. this 'Green' chap is a bit of a prat, i hear.

-- teh_kit haev been evicted, oh noes! (kittenslikemil...), August 1st, 2006 4:20 PM.

is it the girl in the band (who The Lex also knows)?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

I think most in the queue may have been for the Long Blondes, although Scritti got an excellent response and there were a couple of older geezers going up to Green looking very excited when he was walking around before the show. I was the only person throwing my hands in the air when commanded tho'. The live show made me dance and made me like the album more which seems about as much as you can ask.

I met the bass playing girl briefly and she seemed nice, as was the long haired gtr dude.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 7 August 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Probably been said before, but this album immediately dissolved into my brain like warm glocuse lotion on the scalp.

If you have any affinity to XTC or the Beach Boys, especially the Fuzzy Warbles stuff or Love You, respectively, you'll really like this. It's absolutely Geirtastic.

― dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

If I like 'WBBB', would I like 'Anomie & Bonhomie'? I'm afraid that's very different from this Beach Boys/XTC sound.

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 7 August 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

A&B's a bit Foo Fighters meets Mos Def, as sung by Green, if you can imagine such a thing. (Mos Def is actually on it, Dave Grohl is not.)

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 7 August 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

My spies tell me that Kylie was at the Edinburgh gig on Monday (which was fab), I didn't see her but the balcony was closed off for much of the night.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 08:23 (eighteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

SCRITTI POLITTI
Double Door, 11/4, on sale noon Saturday (9/9)

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 7 September 2006 03:30 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

I'm not a concert-goer, but just saw Scritti in Toronto last night...great show, better than anticipated. (Though very sparsely attended, unfortunately.) Green's singing was absolutely ACE throughout, especially on "Word Girl" and "Boom Boom Bap." Great selections off the new album (though they did the only song off the album I don't care for at all--the "monkey in the middle" one), with a smattering of other things. It was a bit heavy on some not-entirely-successful hip-hop tracks (from Anhomie & Bonhomie, I assume--don't know much of that record), and a few of the heavier songs (i.e., "Dr. Abernathy") seemed slightly rushed--at one point it looked like the guitarist was attempting to slow Green down a bit--but really, those are minor points, it was otherwise a superb show, and the band sounded amazing. Green seemed both kind of nervous and wholly engaging. If they're coming your way and you're a fan--go see 'em.

― s w00ds (sw00ds), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

Did he perform "The Sweetest Girl" or anything off Provision? (btw my new favorite WBBB track is "After Six" – the one that goes "Jesus, please take your love away from me").

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

when i saw him: "sweetest girl" yes, nothing off provision, but two tracks off anomie & bonhomie ("die alone" and "brushed with oil, dusted with powder"). he did "after six" too!

and jeru the damaga's "come clean," which was sorta fun.

― the 48 states competition (1939) (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

no money to see this show tomorrow. gutted. :-(

― bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

(btw my new favorite WBBB track is "After Six" – the one that goes "Jesus, please take your love away from me").

excellent. you finally succumbed.

― mike powell (mike powell), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

excellent. you finally succumbed.

It took long enough!

Did Green play much guitar, Scott?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

He did play "Sweetest Girl," also "Skank Bloc Bologna," both of which were highlights, the latter really emphasizing the song's funkiness. And yeah, he played guitar through most of it--I think only not playing it for "Sweetest Girl." He also did "Petrococadollar," which I was dying to hear--all the slower stuff from WBBB were the highlights, in my view (but then, those are my favourites). I confess I may have missed a second encore, if they did one (the first encore had two songs, it was getting late for us, so...). Oh, and my wife bought a t-shirt, and I wish I did too (even though I'm even less of a band t-shirt guy than a concertgoing guy--anything to put money in his pockets for more music in the future!).

― s w00ds (sw00ds), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

the synth-bass part in "Wood Beez" sounded sooo massive live--the mix overall truly was brilliant, and every band member shone in their own way.

― s w00ds (sw00ds), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm, pity to have missed this out here. Ah well, regrets, I've had a few, etc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

no money to see this show tomorrow. gutted. :-(

-- bo janglin (wt...), November 7th, 2006.

have you considered giving blood plasm or sperm?

― Login Name consigliere (consigliere), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

This album is easily in my top three.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

It occurred to me at the Chicago show Saturday that I've never seen anyone replicate that sort of Material synth-rap-funk stuff live, so it was a pleasure to watch "Wood Beez" performed. Also, while Green doesn't have mad flow, he does have some sort of flow, so the Jeru cover and the Mad Skillz rhymes fit right in. Somehow. My friend was pleasantly perplexed by the whole thing, esp. the welcome lack of irony.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

Green was wearing a Beastie Boys t-shirt, btw.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I'd say Scritti's "Wood Beez" surpasses anything Material ever released.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

Well, that song's essentially the Material guys, sans Laswell, right?

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:05 (eighteen years ago)

Another artist forgets the existence of the Pacific Northwest. Has someone been cutting us out of US maps or something? Is it just not cool to come up here anymore? (/bitch mode)

― A Rush of Cold Blood To The Head (Bimble...), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:00 (eighteen years ago)

This album is easily in my top three.
-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (soto.alfre...), November 7th, 2006.

Mine too.

― zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

i have just heard 'the boom boom bap' for the first time. WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS, THIS MUSIC IS INCREDIBLE

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

Was listening to this last night for the first time in a month or two and thinking how it was prob my fave of the year but if not, as has been said, definitely top 3.

― mms (mms), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

favourite of the year, easy.

as for scritti vs. material--not even a competition. that material record from the '80s--the one with nona hendryx and (i think) whitney houston--beyond dullsville, no pop instincts whatsoever, etc.

― s w00ds (sw00ds), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

i have just heard 'the boom boom bap' for the first time. WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS, THIS MUSIC IS INCREDIBLE

funny i'm pretty bored of it now. too minimal ;)

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

show was absolutely wonderful. green complained about a cold but he sounded fine throughough. only minor technical glitches -- when they started "wood beez" it sounded off by a beat or so and continued to throughout the song -- but they kind of added to the charm. i was terrified by the mention of the jeru and mad skillz covers on this thread, but they were adorable. the show also really, finally, sold me on the album as one of the best of the year.

oh and that bass player was a fox.

― bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

This is a much better album then when I first listened to it!

― wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

but yeah, VERY sparsely attended. which is par for the course in a city this size, i guess, but i was still kinda surprised. totally bizarre audience too. not many youngish hipsters. lotsa badly dressed guys, a few older couples, and of course a smattering of people wondering what the hell all these new songs are and where's the hits.

and i'm pretty sure ian mackaye was standing next to me.

― bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

the bass player is my friend alyssa. she's lovely.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, hold on, your friend's the bass player and you only just heard the album? Some friend you are!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

this is why i've been saying for MONTHS that i should hear the album!

(she's not a very close friend, i met her through my flatmate)

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

lotsa badly dressed guys,

!!!

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

My friends are the guitarist and keyboard player! Small world.

― teh_kit returns! (g-kit), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah I was talking Green last night over tea and...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Why would I lie? ;_;

― teh_kit returns! (g-kit), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

I met Alyssa. She seemed nice. She knows my friend pretty well. And I talked to the guitarist after the Tate show. He seemed nice as well.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

D1cky M00re, amirite?

― teh_kit returns! (g-kit), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

If that's directed at me, I dunno him. Or has he got a moustache coz then I know who you mean but don't know him.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

He's never had a moustache! Maybe a patchy beard. Long hair, like mane of lion.

― teh_kit returns! (g-kit), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

haha i included myself in the badly dressed guys column.

my audience comments were mostly meant to indicate that i'm wondering what, for all the blanket alt press goodwill this album is getting, the audience for scritti politti in america even is at this point.

― bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

at the l.a. (roxy) show: it was well attended. it was cool how many black people were in attendance -- some latethirtysomething african-american women, and about five old rasta guys (probably expats from brixton or something). nobody in the audience looked exceptionally hipsterish, but that may be due to age.

― the 48 states competition (1939) (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

That is nothing, Jerry the Nipper hangs out with them in the toilets.

I think I would quite like to go to a concert by this group.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 10 November 2006 08:55 (eighteen years ago)

I thought you flogged the LP within days PJM? I'd like to see em too. The album is really very good indeed - I hope there's another one before too long. A live one might be good - it would be great to hear a mixture of old and new all done with the current band. I can't see SP as a live album band though - it's too much like rock and roll to release one.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 November 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago)

Since we're all name dropping, I believe Carsmile knows Rhodri the keyboard player.

Incidentally, here's Rhodri's piece in today's Grauniad about Scritti supporting Brian Wilson:
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,1943183,00.html

― Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 10 November 2006 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

I did, Doc.

Then I got it again, because I was wrong!

I know, I know.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 10 November 2006 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

I've never done that myself of course.....oh no, definitely not.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 November 2006 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

That happened to me with Smiths' Hatful of Hollow actually.

― A Chocolate Ball of Sweet Confectionary Fire (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 November 2006 08:14 (eighteen years ago)

caught him/them last night, in Boston...last stop on the tour...pretty sparsely attended (100 people or so), but that didn't stop Green and band from putting on a tremendous show...loved the rapping bits (nothing like hearing Green Gartside spout "put your muthafuckin hands up!" in that mellifluous voice)...all albums represented except Provision (sob), but none of those songs woulda fit the vibe, and anyway I have heard that Green has long since disowned it...well, let's hope it won't be 26 more years before the next tour...

― hank (hank s), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

He's disowned Provision - wtf! His best album, I reckon.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 09:12 (eighteen years ago)

agreed

― hank (hank s), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

I'll be honest this album's initial effect on me was obsessive for awhile and then I just...quit suddenly...for months. It was like a hit of crack, an intense high that didn't last long. I pretty much expected to see it languish in my stacks untouched forevermore, but something made me pull it out again and it's just so rich in variety...from acoustic quiet numbers to funky "laptoppy" electro things...I'm surprised to still be so impressed with it. 2006 wasn't a bad year.

― A Tiny Footpath (Bimble...), Saturday, 3 February 2007 07:57 (eighteen years ago)

I had a dream about this album. Can't remember anything about it though, which is just as well.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Saturday, 3 February 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG PETROCOCADOLLAR IS MY FAVOURITE SONG

― Bimble, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

I just started listening to this again this afternoon and it sounds great. Any new news?

― Eyewona (admrl), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

"Robin Hood" is so lovely.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago)

The whole album makes me think of a winter afternoon in a London suburb when the sun breaks through just before going down. Crisp air and long shadows.

― Eyewona (admrl), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago)

this is perfect for sipping a cocktail alone in the evening.

― zorn_bond.mp3, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago)

parts of this are like brian wils scoring a late night cinemax movie

― we did it, internet! (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 03:40 (fourteen years ago)

"cinemax" = zorn_bond.mp3 is NOT british

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (admrl), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 04:55 (fourteen years ago)

lol

― we did it, internet! (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 05:54 (fourteen years ago)

nine years pass...

Man, I really slept on this record (mostly because of its shit title), it's bloody amazing and I'm an idiot.

― Maresn3st, Friday, 17 April 2020 15:28 (five years ago)

I love the title

― brimstead, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:19 (five years ago)

aye I like the title

― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:21 (five years ago)

My favourite Scritti album.

― kitchen person, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:23 (five years ago)

I love the artwork.

― henry s, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:54 (five years ago)

And the album.

― henry s, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:55 (five years ago)

It's good innit. It got stuck on repeat in my car CD player all over again last year before that noughties poll. Maybe it could have been trimmed down by a few tracks, but I always favour brevity, so...

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 18 April 2020 01:14 (five years ago)

four years pass...

the way Green says "methamphetamine" is always profoundly delicious to me

― the news is terrible, i'm in the clear (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 August 2024 14:49 (ten months ago)

eight months pass...

One of the joys of trying to sort out my CDs has been rediscovering this.

― djh, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 20:06 (two months ago)

this is perfect for sipping a cocktail alone in the evening.

― zorn_bond.mp3, Monday, August 16, 2010

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 20:24 (two months ago)

Is there any hope of a new album? It's close to 20 years since this came out.

― Position Position, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 21:31 (two months ago)

he's been working on a new album for ages, there's a bunch of interviews from a few years ago where he talks about how he has hundreds of unfinished songs but is very bad at finishing them. no idea if anyone will ever get him to finish it though

https://www.classicpopmag.com/2021/06/interview-scritti-polittis-green-gartside/

https://www.stereogum.com/2156880/scritti-politti-green-gartside-interview/interviews/qa/

― ufo, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 22:11 (two months ago)

Nice work if you can get it.

― Nuts, whole hazelnuts (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 22:22 (two months ago)

He was in fine form on the tour for this album. I posted way up there "let's hope it won't be 26 more years until the next tour", but here we're well on the way there at this point.

― henry s, Wednesday, 23 April 2025 22:23 (two months ago)

God, we gotta think he invested his C&P '85 album so well to survive this long.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 23:56 (two months ago)

I vaguely remember him saying in some interview many years ago that having a track on that Madonna album is what kept him going.

― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 24 April 2025 00:18 (two months ago)

one month passes...

Green is 70 years old today.

Still love 'White Bread, Black Beer' and hope that someone can persuade him to finish the tracks he's been working on.

― Wry & Slobby (Portsmouth Bubblejet), Sunday, 22 June 2025 16:51 (six days ago)

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