― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 13 April 2006 00:47 (twenty years ago)
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― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 13 April 2006 01:52 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:08 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:09 (twenty years ago)
reason #7 seconded
10. the sound of the rhythm guitar in "Coyote"
― sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:13 (twenty years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:52 (twenty years ago)
mingus gets a bad rap, but that part when the party chimes in for the chorus on "God Must Be a Boogie Man" is retardedly genius
― Jaxon von Jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:54 (twenty years ago)
― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:56 (twenty years ago)
― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 13 April 2006 03:00 (twenty years ago)
I think the idea of flaxen-haired Joni cooing about Birdland did turn a few people off, yes.
but that part when the party chimes in for the chorus on "God Must Be a Boogie Man" is retardedly genius
YES. Really, the whole thing is pretty engaging musically.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 13 April 2006 03:02 (twenty years ago)
Either he's gonna have to stand and fightOr take off out of here
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 13 April 2006 03:25 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 13 April 2006 06:34 (twenty years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 13 April 2006 07:13 (twenty years ago)
Also, it's interesting how Don Juan's Reckless Daughter has suddenly emerged as The Great Lost Joni Album...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:01 (twenty years ago)
I hate to say it's become not so much the "great lost album" as "the great difficult "true fan" favourite". That thing where people recommend first the most outre parts of an artists discography so they can feel somehow superior?
I want to listen to Heijira again now...
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:24 (twenty years ago)
Such an evocative image...and that funny little micro-yodel stuck in the middle of the word "cowgirl"...
― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:06 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:10 (twenty years ago)
― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:11 (twenty years ago)
Was it written then? I don't have it in front of me, but was that not one of the Mingus-written songs?
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:14 (twenty years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:16 (twenty years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― Vornado, Thursday, 13 April 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)
I think I've read that this song was lying around for a while.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)
Except, of course, that this song is written from the perspective of David Geffen.
Tho one could argue that knowing David Geffen well enough to write this sort of song bespeaks an even more ridiculous level of privilege.
― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Thursday, 13 April 2006 21:41 (twenty years ago)
However am I the only one who thinks the cold war metaphor in "Blue Motel Room" is brilliant?
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:52 (twenty years ago)
Geffen was not exactly unreachable back then, he was an up-and-comer - anybody opening for anybody at the Troub from '72-'78 coulda made friends with DG
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:35 (twenty years ago)
It really works as a somewhat exhausted, 10 at night cooking session record. I never realised how vast, how high she was aiming on this. Not all of it works (and it's no Heijera) but it's prime Joni all the same.
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 1 July 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 1 July 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)
― sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 1 July 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Sunday, 2 July 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)
And I count myself among her fans. But . . . shit.
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 2 July 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 2 July 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 2 July 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Sunday, 2 July 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)
― sonofstan (sonofstan), Sunday, 2 July 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)
I always used to think the song was slightly patronising, it's only been in the last year or so that I've felt like I really got the lyrics. And this has been one of my absolute favourite albums for ten years. Odd how sometimes things just slide over you like that.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 2 July 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Vornado (Vornado), Monday, 3 July 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 19 January 2007 10:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:38 (nineteen years ago)
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:15 (nineteen years ago)
Likewise Joni could very well have been a diva bitch one minute and then felt deeply uncomfortable with success the next.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)
Night Ride Home carried me through autumn, that thing is underrated - even her gigantic-ego resetting of a Yeats poem works for me
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:29 (nineteen years ago)
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:32 (nineteen years ago)
― M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:32 (nineteen years ago)
Not so good, nowhere near as good... and occasionally fucking terrible.
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:00 (nineteen years ago)
Joni is nearly always bad at those straight rock'n'roll-ish tracks.
I really should get round to hearing/owning Taming The Tiger, Shadows And Light (Live)... and maybe Both Sides Now and Travelogue just to complete things.
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:00 (nineteen years ago)
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:04 (nineteen years ago)
Does anyone else fucking HATE Jaco's playing and tone on Hejira...drives me nuts, mr. bloop bleeeeeble ddee whale humping sound maker beret dude.
― M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)
I never understand the hate toward "Furry Sings the Blues," tbh.
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)
But I love the work with Joni.
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:12 (nineteen years ago)
I guess the Jaco thing is mostly cuz I prefer the more forward moving vers. of Coyote on The Last Waltz so much better...it feels like low flying crop spraying plane zooming over empty fields (on the Last Waltz)
― M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:17 (nineteen years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:46 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Period period period (Period period period), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:55 (nineteen years ago)
This counts as another reason to love this record
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYF6T6bfCw4
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:09 (fourteen years ago)
iirc, Hejira is Prince's all-time favorite record, by anyone.
I love Hejira almost as much as Court and Spark, but this is as far as I've gotten, chronologically, in Joni's discography. I took a stab at Mingus but, to echo some of the comments upthread, I just can't get with that fretless bass guitar sound. Intellectually, I can recognize and appreciate the importance of what Jaco did, but I can't stand to listen to it.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:19 (fourteen years ago)
Get Night Ride Home!
― Tim F, Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:37 (fourteen years ago)
That might be 'Hissing' I think.
― sleigh tracks (1933-1969) (MaresNest), Saturday, 18 February 2012 11:28 (fourteen years ago)
I bought Night Ride Home thanks to this thread. I've never been able to call it anything other than a good minor record with a couple of tremendous tunes (e.g. "Come in From the Cold").
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 February 2012 13:30 (fourteen years ago)
Naw I think there's so much amazing stuff on here (beyond "Come In From The Cold" which I agree is stunning). The chilling "old as the hills" vibe of "When All The Slaves Free" (her reedily murmured "ecstasy"... "tragedy"...), the heart-cutting double-tracked vocals on "Cherokee Louise", the perfect Tango in the Night pop of "Nothing Can Be Done", the absolute desolation of "Two Grey Rooms"...
I love the sound of her voice here too, damaged by smoking but still just supple enough to hit the targets it aims for, making the damage into just a metaphor for emotional damage, the sense of having seen too much that runs through the album. After this it got to the point where she just sounded limited a lot of the time (though she did use her vocals to great effect on particular songs here and there).
― Tim F, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
It was only recently that I realized furry sings the blues was about a real singer, furry lewis
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
yeah he's good. wasn't happy about the song tho"The way I feel" says Furry "is that your name is proper only to you, and when you use it you should get results from it. She shouldn't have used my name in no way, shape, form or faction without consultin' me 'bout it first. The woman came over here and I treated her right, just like I does everybody that comes over. She wanted to hear 'bout the old days, said it was for her own personal self, and I told it to her like it was, gave her straight oil from the can." He stares at the surrealistic photo on the Hejira cover. "But then she goes and puts it all down on a record, using my name and not giving me nothing! I can't stop nobody from talkie' 'bout Beale Street, 'cause the street belongs to everybody. But when she says 'Furry,' well that belongs to me!" (Though Joni Mitchell had no response to Furry's comments, her manager, Elliot Roberts, responded: "All she said about him was, 'Furry sings the blues' the rest is about the neighborhood. She doesn't even mention his last name. She really enjoyed meeting him, and wrote about her impressions of the meeting, He did tell her that he didn't like her, but we can't pay him royalties for that. I don't pay royalties to everybody who says they don't like me. I'd go broke.")
― tylerw, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
look, i realize this is coming a bit late, but since it seems to have been revived about a year ago... i feel the need to point something out. when joni mention's she is 'not familiar with what you play' she is referring to WC Handy, who's 'cast in bronze, and he's standin in a little park, with his trumpet in his hand, like he's listenin back... -so throughout the song she is comparing her limited knowledge of one legend, with her experience of meeting a dying one, in a city which reflects them, and which they embody -she is clearly an outsider, but an admirer. i am so surprised that so many people who seem to otherwise know her well, or at least this album, did not catch this?!
as for reasons to love hejira (the album)...the beginning and energy throughout black crowand'palm trees in the porchlight like slick black cellophane'
― ramblin rose, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 19:11 (thirteen years ago)
welcome to ILX, ramblin rose! if you want, here is an introduction thread:
Introduce Yourselves!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 20:45 (thirteen years ago)
wow - never read that story about Furry liking her even less after Hejira!
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 17 January 2013 10:13 (thirteen years ago)
Here's the RS article:
Furry Lewis is Furious at Joniby Mark Seal - February 24, 1977
MEMPHIS - There's an electrical wire hanging down in front of bluesman Furry Lewis' small, olive green duplex. It drapes across his front porch, and Furry is so worried about it he can hardly get drunk and have fun with the people who have come to visit, "Somebody call up the 'lectric department to fix that thing!" he yells, sitting in the bed that has become his stage and pouring a dose of Ten High bourbon into a well-worn shot glass. "l know I've always been a rascal, but I ain't never done nothin' bad enough to be in the 'lectric chair."
Age and cataracts have dulled Furry's eyesight - though not his feisty spirit - and his public appearances have been whittled down to a cherished few, but Furry's still got the world at his bedside. Guests, from young neighborhood kids seeking guitar lessons to celebrities, stream into his three-room flat.
Lewis played his slide-driven, talking guitar blues with the father of the blues, W.C Handy, on Beale Street in the early 1900s. Today, the street is crumbling, and a small statue of Handy toting a horn overlooks the ruins. To Furry Lewis, Beale Street was "where somebody was killed every Saturday night and born every Sunday."
At arm's reach from his bed, Furry's got all his daily necessities: battered Martin electric guitar and small amp, two half gallons of Ten High, a .38 revolver stashed inside a drawer, his walking stick, a teddy bear and a cigar box labeled "Business". "I'm 83 years old half blind and gots a wooden leg," he says. "But I sure gots a lot of friends. "
But Furry's got his problems, too. Just a few weeks ago, he explains, he played at a local club and still hasn't been paid. And then there's "that woman" who recorded a song about him.
The song, "Furry Sings the Blues," is on Joni Mitchell's latest album, Hejira. In it, Mitchell paints Furry "down and out in Memphis, Tennessee," and his music "mostly muttering now and sideshow spiel." She had visited the aging bluesman and the pitiful situation on Beale Street had led her to write:
Furry sings the bluesFallin' to hard luckAnd time and other thievesWhile our limo is shining on his shanty street.Old Furry sings the blues.
"The way I feel " says Furry "is that your name is proper only to you, and when you use it you should get results from it. She shouldn't have used my name in no way, shape, form or faction without consultin' me 'bout it first. The woman came over here and I treated her right, just like I does everybody that comes over. She wanted to hear 'bout the old days, said it was for her own personal self, and I told it to her like it was, gave her straight oil from the can." He stares at the surrealistic photo on the Hejira cover. "But then she goes and puts it all down on a record, using my name and not giving me nothing! I can't stop nobody from talkie' 'bout Beale Street, 'cause the street belongs to everybody. But when she says 'Furry,' well that belongs to me!" (Though Joni Mitchell had no response to Furry's comments, her manager, Elliot Roberts, responded: "All she said about him was, 'Furry sings the blues' the rest is about the neighborhood. She doesn't even mention his last name. She really enjoyed meeting him, and wrote about her impressions of the meeting, He did tell her that he didn't like her, but we can't pay him royalties for that. I don't pay royalties to everybody who says they don't like me. I'd go broke.")
Still, Furry can't deny the truths of "Furry Sings the Blues," with its references to Beale Street's doom, that "history falls/ To parking lots and shopping malls."
"They only make a statue of you when you dead and gone," Furry says. "I've known a whole lots of musicianers in my life and lots of 'em are dead now. But I guess that Handy's the only one that's ant a statue of him. But then I ain't gone yet.
"Now I know I ain't a star," he says, reaching for his glass and winking with a wise old grin "But I sure might be a moon."
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 17 January 2013 13:23 (thirteen years ago)
Don't judge Joni on "Free Man In Paris", it's one of her most awkward songs lyrically.However am I the only one who thinks the cold war metaphor in "Blue Motel Room" is brilliant?― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, April 13, 2006
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, April 13, 2006
I think there were country songs almost ten years prior that also had puns on Cold War with relationship subjects
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 29 May 2014 18:51 (eleven years ago)
http://www.atomicplatters.com/platters.php?id=C0_9_1
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 29 May 2014 23:05 (eleven years ago)
shit....Floyd Tillman's 1949 country classic "This Cold War With You". Don't know if there are others
It's not so much the fact of the Cold War pun as the way she runs with the metaphor:
"We're gonna have to hold ourselves a peace talkIn some neutral cafeYou lay down your... sneeeeeaking round the town, honeyand I'll lay down the highways"
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 May 2014 23:23 (eleven years ago)
oh yeah, no doubt, those are great lyrics. not that anyone here would care, but i was interested to learn that the male love interest on this record is the playwright Sam Shepard ("Coyote")
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 29 May 2014 23:26 (eleven years ago)
xpost to me this has always been one (possible) hallmark of a good "literary" lyricist, not just simply drawing analogies between things but getting across the detailed structure of the analogy with a few carefully curated side-shots of the same idea.
Another joni example that always comes to mind is in "The Boho Dance": "like a priest with a pornographic watch, looking in longing on the sly", which evokes a much broader metaphor of musical-authenticity/class-authenticity as hypocritical religious conviction and self-denial.
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 May 2014 23:29 (eleven years ago)
"Between the forceps and the stone"
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 06:37 (seven years ago)
i love this album, and I love everything between Court and Spark through to Don Juan. but i tried to listen to Blue yesterday and I'm still having real difficulty with it. I guess I'm just not into folk Joni
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 07:24 (seven years ago)
I would wager that some day you probably will be, Blue is a grower
― niels, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 07:26 (seven years ago)
“California” is insane, the vocal melody alone is maybe her best thing ever. I say this as a devotee of Hissing and Hejira, and I’m about 50-50 on the rest of Blue. Well ... 70-30.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 08:12 (seven years ago)
This thread brings such a smile to my face. Hejira is the album I've probably listened to the most in my life.
I love Blue, too (as well as pretty much every record she made in the 70s). dog latin, have you tried For the Roses? It's like a midway point between the folky starkness of Blue and the more heavily arranged later output.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 10:39 (seven years ago)
god for the roses is so good, finally clicked with me last year. incrementally jazzier joni against very frail arrangements
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:06 (seven years ago)
Yeah, there isn't really a dividing line in her career for me - right from the start she used a lot of out chords and key changes. I love every album without reservation.
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:11 (seven years ago)
FTR took the longest to click: the tension between the acoustic arrangements with the occasional orchestral flourish was at first bracing. Now I enjoy it more than Blue tbh. And if there's a Joni album that Prince listened to it's FTR more than Hissing.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
Hejira is the only of her 70s albums that I don't wholly adore, and I can't puzzle out why. Even Mingus for all its slightness contains far more moment-to-moment drama... on Hejira there is something fussy about her vocal performance and something too-straight about the band, or something
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)
ahaaa, a challop!
― niels, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:11 (seven years ago)
Nooooo I keep trying at it! I love the versions of "Hejira" and "Amelia" on Travelogue!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:22 (seven years ago)
^ Funny, I like some of the reworkings on Travelogue but the Hejira originals remain untouchable for me!
Also, this might sound embarrassingly nerdy but since English is not my first language I tried translating all the Hejira lyrics when I first became obsessed with the record at the age of 13 or 14. Of course most of the metaphors/similes/wordplay/etc. were totally lost on me back then (what with all these white lines or picking somebody's scents on your fingers!) but poring over OED trying to decipher what Joni was on about definitely expanded my vocabulary and the general cultural competence (?), or at least my sense of AmE style. Joanna Newsom's Ys probably took it to another, more abstract level when it came out about three years later. Anyway--yes, I did try to squeeze being "porous with travel fever" and seeing "a city's flickering wasteland" into my ESL homework essays, no matter the topic, which probably explains both the bewilderment of my teachers and my virginity remaining intact for most of my high school years. Thank you, Joni.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)
haha, that's great
what's your first language?
― niels, Thursday, 9 August 2018 10:25 (seven years ago)
which probably explains both the bewilderment of my teachers and my virginity remaining intact for most of my high school years
Ah, so the curse of the high school art rock nerd is universal
― doug watson, Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:15 (seven years ago)
My first language is Polish.
And yeah, the curse is real and it stretches across borders. I still remember those blank stares on my crushes' faces when I tried to play them Joni, or Kate Bush, or Aphex Twin, or PJ Harvey, or Radiohead, or Björk, or Sonic Youth etc. all those years ago. Streaming has definitely changed the game, I wonder if it gives today's teenagers more opportunty to get stuck in genre rabbit holes, or if it's all more uniform.
But speaking of Hejra and not understanding its lyrics at first, the line that used to stand out to me when I was a kid was:
Pawn shops glitter like gold tooth capsin the gray decay,they chew the last few dollars offold Beale Street's carcass.Carrion and mercy.Blue and silver sparkling drums,cheap guitars, eye shades and gunsaimed at the hot blood of being no onedown and out in Memphis, Tennessee.
I mean, she could've been singing just gibberish but her delivery made these words sound so musical and meaningful, even if I didn't get the meaning until a few years later.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)
That passage is classic Joni, the way she sets up the metaphor and then runs with it.
― Tim F, Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:30 (seven years ago)
Wow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvUNlJ9szFM
― flappy bird, Monday, 13 August 2018 06:25 (seven years ago)
yes
but who will fix the pitch
― niels, Monday, 13 August 2018 14:35 (seven years ago)
Yeah I was like 'what's up with this' and then she started singing and my computer exploded
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 13 August 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
I'm kinda into it, but I regularly slow down/speed up songs I love that I've burned out on. Probably why I love live recordings. Nice to hear her killer guitar playing so fast & tight here. Fixing the pitch would be easy, it's just a tape speed issue. If I weren't busy I would bounce that to tape and reupload it. Maybe in a couple weeks.
― flappy bird, Monday, 13 August 2018 22:50 (seven years ago)
I was going to fix the pitch on that but I had a hunch and was right - the whole show's up in perfect pitch here:
http://ia801406.us.archive.org/21/items/JoniMitchell1979ForestHills/JoniMitchell1979ForestHills.mp3?cnt=0
setlist:
http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/JoniMitchell1979ForestHills.html
― whitehallunity, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 13:28 (seven years ago)
also noticed in that youtube video that her strat has a Gibson headstock decal - just a photoshop joke or was she hanging out with EVH??
― whitehallunity, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 13:30 (seven years ago)
Amazed how little from Blue makes it on that setlist
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 20 August 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)
Doesn't sit well against her mid/late 70s records imo
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 07:14 (seven years ago)
any idea what phaser is used all over this album? whatever it is, it seems like they set it all the way to the slowest rate and just left it on throughout the entire recording session.
for a long time, i would have easily said blue or court and spark were my favorite joni album, but hejira has been the one i go back to most frequently the last few years. there's just something different and transcendent about this album. the older i get, the more i find that my favorite music is stuff that i just love, without any real way to exactly articulate why — besides just saying that i love how it sounds; which isn't very descriptive, but also feels like the best way for me to put it.
anyway. it's exceptionally good.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:52 (five years ago)
I find its the one that suits my mood the most, definitely. can't hear a phaser, sure it's not your copy?
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:27 (five years ago)
The Boss CE-1 chorus/vibrato pedal was released in 1976 and was the first chorus effect in a pedal format to be available; it is very likely a part of the guitar sound on Hejira, along with a phaser pedal giving a "liquid" swirling effect - likely the MXR Phase 90 which had been released in 1974 and was the first product sold by MXR. Then one or two more layers of guitars, including an acoustic, would be added and then be panned left, center and right, giving the album its lush panoramic texture full of modulated movement.
https://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=4622
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:36 (five years ago)
then you have mad Jaco on top playing with a delay pedal that sounds like a chorus (iirc). very cool sounding album. I can't abide folk Joni but this is an all-timer for me
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:39 (five years ago)
Seems like they're guessing, though.xp
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:44 (five years ago)
Killer Live show from around the Hejira days https://youtu.be/bLKb9Ms68ME
― calstars, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 20:42 (five years ago)
yeah, i was wondering if it was just a good old phase 90; i know the effects market was infinitely smaller back then and it could've only been one of a handful. i play a phase 90 a lot in my own music because, again, i just love how it sounds. makes sense, even if it is just an educated guess.
thanks for that link, cal. will definitely check it out later.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:44 (five years ago)
!!! that band
― ACABincalifornia (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:59 (five years ago)
yeah shadows and light is a great live album, and I love that dvd. persuasions on the title track *shivers*
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 June 2020 18:18 (five years ago)
love the version of dreamland too
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 June 2020 18:20 (five years ago)
Oh, it was the Shadows and Light show? That's my favourite Joni some/many days.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 June 2020 19:11 (five years ago)
and now is the time for me to admit that i just now learned about the existence of that album.
off to discogs!
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 12 June 2020 01:07 (five years ago)
I was always under the impression that the modulation sounds on the album were from Roland Jazz Chorus amps. I used to have a 70s one and could get the same chorus/vibrato sounds (though the chorus circuit in the amp is basically the same as the CE-1). Joni actually claimed a few times that the amp was actually designed for her, but I've never found any corroboration for that.
― whitehallunity, Friday, 12 June 2020 02:37 (five years ago)
The Roland jazz chorus is the most trebly amp I’ve ever played through as a humble guitar player. Not for everyone.
― calstars, Friday, 12 June 2020 03:24 (five years ago)
Free manhttps://open.spotify.com/track/60eqXSs8J3c4QERz7AqvBH?si=NVaPkBIRQVOHEEe4GVvALw
― calstars, Friday, 12 June 2020 03:27 (five years ago)
it definitely sounds like the precursor to those Jazz Chorus sounds that were so big in the 80s
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 June 2020 03:53 (five years ago)
Shame they didn’t play Help Me. Would have kicked with this group
― calstars, Friday, 12 June 2020 04:03 (five years ago)
man, a Phase 90 and a CE-1. the most basic modulation setup for guitar. Leg
― flappy bird, Monday, 15 June 2020 04:43 (five years ago)
― calstars, Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:24 PM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Thin as paper
― flappy bird, Monday, 15 June 2020 04:44 (five years ago)
If you haven't seen this ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxMwGTQ1bzU
― lukas, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:54 (five years ago)
oh heck the whole thing is available https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKb9Ms68ME
― lukas, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:59 (five years ago)
just looked at the comments and ... apparently a pristine concert performance by a once-in-a-lifetime supergroup is already pretty well known? news to me anyway.
― lukas, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:45 (five years ago)
Yeah, I was aware of that concert on YouTube. But always worth spreading the word
― Duke, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 11:24 (five years ago)
i was not aware, thanks!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:04 (five years ago)
Terrific review (10!)
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/joni-mitchell-hejira/
― jaymc, Sunday, 4 December 2022 05:23 (three years ago)
was an 8.0 last time. gonna go read this now
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 4 December 2022 05:44 (three years ago)
that review is wonderful
― estela, Sunday, 4 December 2022 07:57 (three years ago)
yeah like hanging out with a super-literate friend who loves the album as much as I do
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 4 December 2022 08:04 (three years ago)
yes, thanks for sharing
haven't listened to the album since it was taken off spotify
now I'm listening again
it is the best
― corrs unplugged, Sunday, 4 December 2022 09:15 (three years ago)
that’s funny because I haven’t listened to Spotify since then
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 4 December 2022 12:22 (three years ago)
touché
― corrs unplugged, Sunday, 4 December 2022 12:59 (three years ago)
bit of a dickish comment from me tbh
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 4 December 2022 13:14 (three years ago)
goat album. outstanding review. accurate score.
― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Sunday, 4 December 2022 14:40 (three years ago)
As someone who benefits greatly from context and narrative, this may be personal, but to me, a great review falls somewhere between reading and listening. Even as you're reading it there are subtle recalibrations of sense memory taking place, different positions from which to view experience opening up; I return to the music altered, the music changed too. Hard to explain. Anyway, that was a great review.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Sunday, 4 December 2022 14:51 (three years ago)
blue motel room perfectly understated, suits hejira like buckets of rain does blood on the tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Raw8Hmlj4c
honey tell 'em you've got... ggggeeeerrrms
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 11:43 (two years ago)
Thank you; we've got our first cold morning in Savannah and this will be the perfect thing to listen to while driving the kids to school.
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 11:48 (two years ago)
Coyote's in the coffee shopHe's staring a hole in his scrambled eggsHe picks up my scent on his fingersWhile he's watching the waitresses' legs
awful good
― corrs unplugged, Sunday, 18 February 2024 12:45 (two years ago)
The lyrics are just next level, the sheer craft of them.
Something I was struck by recently is how perfectly each opening line sets up the song’s story (not in the sense of encapsulating it; more like dropping a pin on a map and then exploring outwards from there) and draws you in:
- “No regrets, Coyote / we just come from such different sets of circumstance”- “I was driving across the burning desert when I spotted six jet planes / Leaving six white vapor trails across the bleak terrain”
etc.
You immediately want to know what is coming.
― Tim F, Sunday, 18 February 2024 21:27 (two years ago)
This is my favourite JM album. Going to listen again right now.
― Duke, Sunday, 18 February 2024 23:18 (two years ago)
https://i.postimg.cc/QNwMpKvS/Screenshot-20240530-213416-Firefox.jpg
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Friday, 31 May 2024 04:38 (one year ago)
Great deep dive into Hejira in the new Uncut, (featuring a few bits, I must confess, by me)https://www.uncut.co.uk/publications/uncut-july-2024-146032/
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 31 May 2024 11:51 (one year ago)
I'll have to get my hands on it!
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 31 May 2024 17:51 (one year ago)
There are some good live videos of this era of Joni Mitchell and her all star jazz band with Jaco, Pat Metheny, Michael Brecker and Don Alias online.
Definitely worth looking up on the tube.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 31 May 2024 19:43 (one year ago)
This is my favorite Joni album (although Court comes close) but it only hits at full impact in mid-late Autumn.
― Slim is an Alien, Friday, 31 May 2024 20:02 (one year ago)
Hejira demo (working title "Traveling") released as part of archives vol. 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wLysKasGU
sounds great, haven't had time to dive in proper
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 6 September 2024 08:06 (one year ago)
in case that embed is coming up as unavailable for anyone elsehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9h2UmEXYuo
― hott ogo (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 September 2024 19:59 (one year ago)
my favorite Joni album by a long way. I don't always love Jaco and Larry Carlton but they're both perfect on it.
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Saturday, 7 September 2024 03:37 (one year ago)
wow the Hejira album demos on this Archives release are just exquisite. So alive.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 22 October 2024 05:34 (one year ago)