Justin Timberlake, "FutureSex/LoveSounds"

Rick Rubin also worked on it, no?

You can hear the single on his website.

"If I'm not going to push it, then who's going to push it?"

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gee - I'm glad he's all over it... I was worried about the future of pop music.

Sorry, I still can't take him seriously.

Does he say that? I only heard "take it to the chorus".

I don't really like it either, although I really want to.

this is aight

All this future-y sounding shit though just makes me wish "Gnarls Barkley" had happened between Cee-Lo & Timb instead of DM.

"Hey now hey now ow ow ow owieeee oh ladies the bridge WAIIIIIEEEEE! *pause* Drum machine. *clunk*"

apparently there is a bridge.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2591/407/320/062506_justinsexybacklyrics.jpg

The term may also be used to refer to the section between the verse and the chorus. Although this is more commonly referred to as the pre-chorus, it is not completely incorrect, as often the transition between the two themes of a sonata form in classical music is similarly referred to as a bridge.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/track_reviews/Justin_Timberlake_My_Love_ft_T_I_

You can obv. do whatever you like, L.Jag -- but I think he's responsible for some of the best pop music of this decade (the four singles from Justified are all virtually flawless), so I'm interested in what he does, yeah.

fwiw, I'm in agreement with the Justin love in theory, it's just that he's unfortunately nauseatingly smug and unlikeable as a vocalist/performer to my ear :(

This means of course I half-like SexyBack! can't hear him properly = good.

No, we're s'posed to dislike him. I Love Music is just an ironic title, we hate all music equally. We're actually deaf and don't have a clue what music actually sounds like.

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I'm only teasing Louis, I know you've caught some flak here (to put it mildly) but I'm not having a go. Just rolling my eyes at the weak sarcasm/weak comeback merry-go-round a little.

Getting back to the topic would be good (me included).

(Some of this is actually true.)

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NO, no he can't!

yes you HAVE to love justin, louis. it's the rules.

and damon allbran is a twat ffs. start listening to proper music!

I thought their relationship was on the rocks!

I appeciate PFM's oft-forgotten specialty of making a music review double as piece of celebrity gossip i.e. "The beats to Beyoncè's new single make you want to bounce harder than the mattress springs she shares with superstar rapper/boyfriend Jay-Z! The icy synths that creep in during the bridge leave you colder than the way Beyoncè left Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams and command more authority than her domineering father/manager, Mathew Knowles!" Ba-zing!

Calming his love of MBV, toning down his hatred of Justin Timberlake. Ned Raggett is a man of patience and tolerance in 2006.

And both of them still able to make good music sometimes despite of this.

Maybe he should try it though, as he's persisting with this eclectic voyage? And it would be more Lex funnies ;)

Hmm.

Quite amused by all his fronting on all this really.

mindyou i was just about getting sick of all the mirrorball album sleeves of late - madonna, lcd soundsystem etc

I had thought it was an attempt to make people think of (and so class this alongside) Speakerboxx/The Love Below.

he's biting his lip.

this is a good thing.

i'll bet that's a dior suit he's wearing.

there was an amazing photoshopped version of the arena photo doing the rounds back then.

you just get the feeling if he really had any imagination he could (and should, he's simply not a born artist) be doing better than this. And I can't help wishing he would.

although given that you could well be describing PARIS and she is fantastic, the argument is not really valid!

god that's certainly not what I want from an ex-boybander! yuck yuck yuck.

(nb who is byrne?)

he has got more tolerable over time for sure

what I want from (most) ex-boy banders is probably for them to all fuck off and do something else with their money other making more money with it!

not much interested in his namedropping either really.

"My Love" is definitely okay though. The happy hardcore giggle is kind of odd though, in a "hey let's put something odd here 'cos it needs to be odd to be Timbaland" way...

If anything, I see his whole stature as a lot less secure than that, its only too easy to become tomorrow's christina milian and get dropped. If anything that Janet Jackson incident proved how slippery his position was as 'white boy soulman #1'

xpost yeah, deej, that's a point.

you know he did electronic stuff in the 70's yeah?

xpost- thanks cis, that's much more what I'm getting at. The "money" thing is a bit of a red herring. It's basically the same unlikeability present in George Bush, however it came to be.

Saying that though, he IS working on it, he irritates me less & less these days.

how can you possibly ask this question?

how 'imaginative' (in sound or message) can this sort of pop be before it becomes something else antirely anyway?

There's also a younger generation for whom Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were faint memories. Like those teens who came of age in the mid '90s remembering NKOTB.

Not that any of that matters. Anyway, I give the guy a lot of credit for waiting four years between records instead of crapping out a "Justified" sequell ASAP. He also stayed off the road. Leave them wanting more, and all that.

The Janet Jackson incident is one thing - but you have to admire the way he handled the aftermath of that, and how incredibly sincere and likeable he appeared while apologizing at the Grammys. I also remember an interview where he talked about making the "Cry Me A River" video and how he knew exactly what people's reaction to it would be, it was all very calculated and very cynical. The guy is very, very talented at managing his public persona.

As for his music, he doesn't seem to strike me as someone who simply works with hot producers. I think he's very careful in choosing his collaborators - people who can maximise his ideas and it's something he's been doing since NSync's last album. It seems a little weird that back then, there was a lot of talk about Britney being Madonna's heir, because I think Justin has a lot more in common with Madge than Michael Jackson.

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-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (soto.alfre...), September 5th, 2006.

Alfred, if you're referring to my post, I regret to inform you that I was just one of many pulling Lex's leg.

Apparently you've never heard Byrne's cover of "I Wanna Dance With Somebody."

I wonder if it was scheduling or preference that made him go almost all Timbaland this time? Maybe Rick Rubin was a one-off attempt to capture the live-in-the-studio Neptunes vibe?

Ugh, I have.

"My Love" is okay, nothing special.

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The reason there are no Neptunes productions is because they refused to work with JT unless Jive (which both JT & the Clipse are on) released the Clipse album they'd shelved, which has yet to materialize.

yes - the slowing down of the 'lovestoned' melody, the sadness creeping into it, the meaning of the phrase "lovestoned" itself gradually changing until justin comes out the other side jaded and hurt.

Lex's willful naivete is beginning to seriously grate. I've been known to do it, too -- esp. since there's lots of classic-rock tunes I don't know -- but jeez, at least I have a passing familiarity with David fucking Byrne.

it's not wilful naivete, i have no idea who david fucking byrne is (and certainly don't know who to believe on this thread) and i resent the assumption that i should.

My friend just said something about "mental machine music"; who the fuck does he think he is? (8 new answers)
Don't fucking tell me what music you think I would like, Amazon.com (1 new answer, 160 total)
I wish everybody would stop talking about that crotchety old rapper Kneel Yung (93 new answers, 524 total)

let's talk about the amazing crack song! it works in the same way as the best powerballads, all obvious "CRY HERE" signifiers piled and piled and piled on top of each other, and the children's choir is a kind of amazing final straw. also, um, the first time i wasn't paying attention to the words, and the sound is a little bit post-coital! and it comes at that stage of the album, too.

cool but then probably best not to say 'who is that?' or declare you don't know them, just let it go - if you do want to avoid this sort of thing on ILM. also it's extremely easy to find out who they are if you want to anyway.

i listened to this album in full last night but cannot think of anything to say about it just yet.

lex tends to go for first-name-only artistes. this could be key.

this surely will help lex see that byrne is not a smelly old codger (?)

'buy this, it's the best thing ever; but bear in mind i have never heard any other records.'

So he should pretend to know who DB after googling his name? I mean, seriously, is there soe pre-requisite knowledge we should have before we engage in a discussion here on ILX? I was unaware of those rules. I don't think it's grating at all that Lex doesn't know who DB is. Why should he? Because JT does? (Nor should JT know who DB is for that matter.) I love Lex' opinion on pop music, in a way he's completely Pop.

There's nothing wrong with knowing or not being aware of any artist.

I hate it when people saying he's being contrary for the sake of it. Maybe he just doesn't care one iota (or note or whatever).

Anyway, I need to get the record. Now.

and i don't scurry to the shop to buy stuff by everyone that people i like reference because a) popstars have dodgy taste and b) i have finite time and money.

xp - thanks nathalie! with a lot of these people i've never heard of i only care a little bit, and usually not enough to grapple with a massive back catalogue to sift out any stuff i might actually love. i mean, finances apart, i have no idea where people find the time to listen to and take in all this music!

i totally agree, and it's part of why i quit writing about music. but i'm going out on a rockist limb to say FUCKING HELL IT'S TALKING HEADS FFS!

not only that but they used to be on the radio pretty often, and on tv, and in films...

http://www.perezhilton.com/000fz6zb-1.jpg

Not quite as good as that other RS cover, though.

i mean, no one called matt dc out when he said he hadn't heard of paris hilton until four months ago, and she's much more famous.

get 1x talking heads album. i dunno which, i like 'fear of music' best. JDI.

Well, yes frankly. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to know who David Byrne is on a board like ILM. Of course you don't have to LIKE him. I generally think the more someone knows the better they are in whatever field they're operating in (but esp. as a critic).

If it were me I would probably just google them without asking on ILM as I wouldn't want to have the piss taken out of me. I don't think there's anything wrong with this. ILM is not Wikipedia after all.

I did e-mail him privately to call him an out-of-touch nincompoop but fair point.

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If Lex would just use less hyperbole and gushing over pop stars who's talent is highly questionable (now in this case I'm referring much more to the Paris Hilton thread than this one. While I'm no fan of Justin either, at least he became popular based on his musical abilities), I really think he would receive less abuse here at ILM.

should i expect people to know who teairra marí, dinky, matias aguayo, lisa germano and sparkle are then?

There's a whole world of stuff out there - does none of it spark your curiosity?

i spend the vast majority of my spare time doing culture-related stuff, learning about new things and so on! i fundamentally don't like tv or radio though, and have concentration/commitment issues with films

They were still getting play on the radio when I was a young'un -- "Burning Down the House", "Once In A Lifetime", and "And She Was"

never heard of any of these (unless the first is the same as that TERRIBLE tom jones song

no because none of them are as famous as Byrne - you should just accept that.

even i have heard one neil young album (harvest; i think it's ghastly and have investigated no further)

i have no internet connection at home

and the somewhat better Tiga song!

how, then, to explain my having heard of them but not him?

I think the appeal is that we don't have the same knowledge. This is how we learn about different opinion, different artists,...

Can someone give me the manual with what I need to know. I mean, FFS. Should I also know who Fela Kuti is? Or not? Should know I know the backcatalogue of the Dead Boys? Or maybe Basic Channel? What about Early Polyphonic Music? Hmm, I think we should appoint someone who will test every newbie to check if s/he knows enough to vent about Paris Hilton. Otherwise how can we trust his/her opinion!

Anyway, I think Talking Heads is poopoo anyway. ;-) Don't bother with'em, Lex, instead rave on about Paris et al. :-)

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Come on Lex, now you're just being deliberately obtuse.

but there's no appeal to having the thread derailed because somebody asks 'who is X (person who had several hit singles, albums, sell out tours or that awesome Powerpoint lecture)' and someone explaining - that's just basic stuff you can pick up elsewhere easily.

i think it's because ILM is (or has always seemed to me at least) v critic-orientated board so of course comments like 'who is byrne' will be met with mockery.

Dictionary.com offers the following definitions for the word "rave":

1. to talk wildly, as in delirium.
2. to talk or write with extravagant enthusiasm: She raved about her trip to Europe.
3. (of wind, water, storms, etc.) to make a wild or furious sound; rage.
4. to utter as if in madness.
5. an act of raving.
6. an extravagantly enthusiastic appraisal or review of something.
7. Chiefly British Slang. a boisterous party, esp. a dance.
–adjective
8. extravagantly flattering or enthusiastic: rave reviews of a new play.

Now Nathalie, while I'm certain you were using definitions 6 and 8 in your request to Lex, it seems that the majority here at ILM (the popular vote?) would choose definitions 1 and 4 when considering Lex's enthusiasm for pop stars and apparent lack of interest in musicians regarded as canonical by the vast majority of the population, let alone ILMers.

Jeez, that sentence is still running away from me!

;-)

yeah with her top ten hits, sell out shows and thirty years in the biz, what fewl wouldn't know her name?

not far enough

Despite the fact that we seem to be in complete agreement on this thread, fuck you very much Konal!

;)

The point everyone is missing is that at my first ever FAP, [LONG TIME ILXER WHO WILL REMAIN NAMELESS] told me a story about David Byrne secretly being a coprophiliac. Which is clearly what Justin is getting at, the filthy deviant = the back is sexy because it is COVERED IN FAECES.

if that were true he wouldn't have asked 'who is Byrne' he would've said 'i don't know who Byrne is :D' altho that's probably what he meant.

xposts

Which, a lot of people will notice is a common theme on the Paris Hilton album.

(xpost - no it means, 'I don't know who David Byrne is and I am SHOWING OFF ABOUT THIS FACT because it's for people I disapprove of')

i thought that was justin out of the darkness.

I'd like to know what "the fact that Timberlake mentioned "David Byrne" specifically and not "Talking Heads"" means, did I not notice its being explained upthread?

Yeah, keep imagining.

If Beyonce were ever to namecheck the Pistols we'd never hear the end of it (see also every article on Dizzee Rascal for two years mentioning that his favourite album was In Utero, even if it wasn't).

thanks for letting us know. if you don't like ILM anymore maybe you shouldn't read/post/be a mod here?

For the record, it wouldn't bother me half as much if Lex didn't write about music

do you seriously think that whether i have heard/not heard of one of the fucking MILLIONS of old before-my-time bands who may possibly have influenced the music i write about in my time makes my writing better/worse? it's not as if i have a blanket ignorance of music made before 1991 but ffs if you expect me or any other writer to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of every obscure marginal musician, however canon-beloved, then, well, i certainly don't want to read your writing.

More boring than Lex's faux ignorance?
An argument about Lex's faux ignorance.

i also really fucking object to the assumption that i'm pretending not to know whoever the fuck this person is. it's knee-jerk snarkiness along the lines of "of COURSE paris hilton can't POSSIBLY have made a good name" which reveals the whole lot of you to have CLOSED MINDS.

because there are still plenty of americans here who dont make me want my goverment to bomb europe off the face of the earth. like blount's real talk above.

bunch of bitter cunts on internet hate me
nice real life people love me

this is a situation i can live with, frankly

Actually, it takes (0.29 seconds)

she has a good name too obv

It might do, it might not.

Jess do you know how dumb you sound when you make this a USA vs Europe thing? It's a pity.

Lex, I really don't expect this. For one, this whole argument is all very ironic to me because a lot of my friends get exasperated with me when I admit ignorance about something in a "Why would I have heard of that?" way. Which happens a fair amount!

So I agree with you that good writing about music need not come from someone with an encyclopedic knowledge of canonical acts. In fact, privately, I've always fretted about the fact that I don't know enough, that I don't own enough records, that I'm not an "expert" in the way some of my peers are -- but I've trusted that my writing skills, combined with my curiosity and insight, will ultimately win out. And this is why I've really enjoyed writing the "On First Listen" column for Stylus every now and then: you're starting from a point of ignorance and attempting to understand an unfamiliar artist as best you can.

All that said, I wouldn't even dream of writing about music at all if I didn't have at least a cursory knowledge of some of the biggest figures in popular music of the last few decades. Maybe that's just my own insecurities, though, I dunno.

PS: What do you think of Trick Daddy's "Sugar (On My Tongue)"?

I hope that's not a reference to me.

why is 'chop me up' not getting more love? I loved "Right for me", on the first album, J-Timberlake and Bubba Sparxxx, "we must be the fly-est-of-south-er-ner-men", and this has Timberlake amping up the accent for all it's worth, the southern gentleman schtick, which really makes me smile. It seems kind of camped-up, lite, poppified, pastiche-y, the loop of funeral piano and string snip so obvious, the "look at us referencing screwed and chopped!" of the chorus, the lines they come out with ("we can watch sex in the city, or desperate housewives" omg timba i love you so much) - it just feels really fun, in this comfortable laid-back welcoming way.

"Give Justin Timberlake credit for this: he has ambition. He may not have good instincts and may bungle his execution, but he sure has ambition and has ever since he was the leading heartthrob in *NSYNC. He drove the teen pop quintet to the top of the charts, far exceeding their peers the Backstreet Boys, and when the group could achieve no more, he eased into a solo career that earned him great sales and a fair amount of praise, largely centered on how he reworked the dynamic sound of early Michael Jackson at a time when Jacko was so hapless he turned away songs that later became JT hits, as in the Neptunes-propelled "Rock Your Body." That song and "Cry Me a River" turned his 2002 solo debut, Justified, into a blockbuster, which in turn meant that he started to be taken seriously — not just by teens-turned-adult, but also some rock critics and Hollywood, who gave him no less than three starring roles in the wake of Justified. Those films all fell victim to endless delays — Alpha Dog aired at Sundance 2006 but didn't see release that year, nor did Black Snake Moan, which got pushed back until 2007, leaving Edison Force, a roundly panned Shattered Glass-styled thriller that sneaked out onto video, as the first Timberlake film to see the light of day — but even if silver screen stardom proved elusive, Justin didn't seem phased at all, and his fall 2006 album FutureSex/LoveSounds proves why: he'd been pouring all his energy into his second album to ensure that he doesn't have a sophomore slump.

If Michael Jackson was the touchstone for Justified, Prince provides the cornerstone of FutureSex/LoveSounds, at least to a certain extent — Timbaland, Timberlake's chief collaborator here (a move that invites endless endlessly funny "Timbaland/Timberlake" jokes), does indeed spend plenty of time on FutureSex refurbishing the electro-funk of Prince's early-'80s recordings, just like he did with Nelly Furtado's Loose, and Timberlake's obsession with sex does indeed recall Prince's carnivorous carnality of the early '80s. But execution is everything, particularly with Timberlake, and if the clumsy title of FutureSex/LoveSounds wasn't a big enough tip-off that something is amiss here — the clear allusion to Speakerboxxx/The Love Below would seem like an homage if there weren't the nagging suspicion that Timberlake didn't realize that the OutKast album bore that title because it was two records in one — a quick listen to the album's opening triptych proves that Justin doesn't quite bring the robotic retro-future funk he's designed to life. Hell, a quick look at the titles of those first three songs shows some cracks in the album's architecture, as they reveal how desperate and literal Timberlake's sex moves are. Each of the three opening songs has "sex" sandwiched somewhere within its title, as if mere repetition of the word will magically conjure a sex vibe, when in truth it has the opposite effect: it makes it seem that Justin is singing about it because he's not getting it. Surely, his innuendos are bluntly obvious, packing lots of swagger but no machismo or grace. They merely recycle familiar scenarios — making out on the beach, dancing under hot lights, acting like a pimp — in familiar fashions, marrying them to grinding, squealing synths that never sound sweaty or sexy; if they're anything, they're the sound of bad anonymous sex in a club, not an epic freaky night with a sex machine like, say, Prince. But Prince isn't the only idol Justin Timberlake wants to emulate here. Like any young man with a complex about his maturity, he wants to prove that he's an adult now by singing not just about sex but also serious stuff, too — meaning, of course, that drugs are bad and can ruin lives. Like the Arctic Monkeys deploring the scummy men who pick up cheap hookers in Sheffield, Justin has read about the pipe and the damage done — he may not have seen it, but he sure knows that it happens somewhere, and he's put together an absurd Stevie Wonder-esque slice of protest pop in "Losing My Way," where he writes in character of a man who had it all and threw it all away...or, to use Justin's words, "Hi, my name is Bob/And I work at my job," which only goes to show that Timberlake lacks a sense of grace no matter what he chooses to write about.

Graceless he may be, but Timberlake is nevertheless kind of fascinating on FutureSex/LoveSounds since his fuses a clear musical vision — misguided, yes, but clear all the same — with a hammyness that only a child entertainer turned omnipresent 21st century celebrity can be. Timberlake yearns to be taken seriously, to be a soulful loverman like Marvin Gaye coupled with the musical audaciousness of Prince, yet still sell more records than Michael Jackson — and he not only yearns for that recognition, he feels entitled to it, so he's cut and pasted pieces from all their careers, cobbling together his own blueprint, following it in a fashion where every wrong move is simultaneously obvious and surprising. There is no subtlety to his music, nor is there much style — he's charmless in his affectations, and there's nothing but affectations in his music. At least this accumulation of affectations does amount to a semblance of personality this time around — he's still a slick cipher as a singer, yet he is undeniably an auteur of some sort, one who has created an album that's stilted and robotic, but one who doggedly carries it through to its logical conclusion, so the club jams and slow jams both feel equally distant and calculated. And also kind of tuneless and hookless, if the truth be told — there may be flair within the production, particularly in how foreign yet familiar its retro-future vibe sounds at first, but the novelty fades away rapidly, even within the course of one song. That's because there's not much there — Timbaland may have set Timberlake up with a set of sounds, but Justin didn't deliver a set of songs, or even much to hang the productions on. He prances like a frisky young colt but doesn't carry through on his act. Which really shouldn't come as a surprise: when Justin was pranked on Punk'd, his first instinct was to call his mommy, and when he tore away Janet's top and unleashed her demon boob, the first thing he did was run away and apologize. He casually bragged how he took Britney's virginity while shaking his head at the mess she's gotten herself into with K-Fed, and he attacked American Idol winner Taylor Hicks as a hack, as if being a veteran of The New Mickey Mouse Club has considerably more street cred. Timberlake may have a tough act, but he crumbles like a sand castle the instant he's scrutinized, which is something this weirdly sexless sex record proves in spades."

a) Lex wrote one review for Stylus around two years ago, and hasn't done a review since.
b) James, I thought you said you'd never ever ever read Stylus. Make your mind up.

Now I'm ILM' most read print journalist (370,000 readers a day, kiddies), I'm not going to get involved in pissing matches anymore (hosepipe to a water pistol fight, y'know?), so I'm gonna find other threads to bait Lex on. Cheerio.

Is this true??

Until he finally said "Prince" at the end I was gonna say, "UM YEAH, LIKE PRINCE CIRCA 1999???"

"I Wanna Be Your Lover."
"Dirty Mind"
"When U Were Mine"
"Head"
"Sister"
"Jack U Off"
"Feel U Up"

i sort of like this line! it's like the beginning of a thomas pynchon song.

According to a Pharrell interview I saw, this is definitely true of "Senorita". I don't know about "Rock Your Body".

I will go home now, and cry.

Predating the Lex himself, then?

yeah i really didn't want to let this pass unremarked upon, but...

To be fair, he burst out of Liam Gallager's chest in 1997, but you're on the right track.

Ha! That would explain that "Ring The Alarm" bullshit.

My second favorite line in that review, next to the "My name is Bob/I have a job" reference. New albums by Timberlake, Jessica Simpson, Beyonce and Christina Aguilara all in recent weeks. With a new album by Smash Mouth and Third Eye Blind on the way, can the long-awaited follow up from LEN be far behind? The Summer of 1999 Strikes Back, indeed.

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yeah otm there. trax 1-7 are album of the year stuff so i don't really mind but yeah a real loveangelmusicbaby job.

we need a new name for albums that do this..

RING THE ALARM IS AWESOME

yeah, it's not so much the value of the song itself (one of the weakest on the album, I'd say, but still nice for the reasons you mentioned). It's more that I don't think I'd EVER have picked it out as Rubin's track.

No! Tuneless, tuneless, tuneless. It brings out my inner Geir!

Predating the Lex himself, then?

-- Matt DC (runmd...), September 6th, 2006.

Actually - I meant I've been coming here since 2001, but I've thought it over, and I realize that first Alex in NYC caught my eye. Because I was signing my stuff as Alexis and it was confusing. But now I'm Lex and he's Lex and.. it's fun.

You both wear hats.

Just another point in my thesis that all pop sounds the same.

He tries too hard.

Tell me more, O Wise One.

Tom Petty agrees with you.

i think this album starts out very very fine indeed

and then drops off to expertly produced tedium

does anyone agree??

i like some of the conceits of the later songs in theory but they don't do anything for me in practice

i've only listened intently to this lp three times though.

Of what I've heard, his singing on this album is much more on the "Rock Your Body"/"Senorita" end of the spectrum than "Like I Love You"/"Cry Me A River", so I haven't had as much of a negative reaction to his vocals as I did to his first album.

He makes a point of telling me, in front of various engineers, programmers and friends, that he's off the pipe again (prompting one of them to say, "C'mon, Justin - you brought sexy back, why don't ya bring the chronic back too?"). When he gets to work, he runs around the studio like a madman, layering clavinet figures, live drums, synth percussion and other assorted flairs onto the track. As with FutureSex/LoveSounds, his working process is distinctly improvisational, and distinctly impressive.

does ste do that typical ste thing of ridiculous hedging?

"while this album may not be viewed as a comeback, it is actually viewed as a comeback. and while it can't be said that the vibe is mellow, it can also be said that the vibe is distinctively mellow." ad infinfuckingitum.

this clause is worthy of keats

Would you let your daughter marry a Rolling Stone Justin Timberlake?

It starts with somebody going, "O.. M.. G. You just lost your motherfreakin' mind!!"

Yes, they say "O" "M" "G"

"My Love" sounds like something begging to be covered by Marilyn Manson, doesn't it?

When Justin Timberlake's sophomore disc debuts at No. 1 on the chart next week, the Beatles era will officially be over.

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maroon 5

overlooking the fact that the review is not very good, i cannot express how happy those two sentences make me :D :D

IF ONLY!

maroon 5

haha i didn't see anyone jumping on amateurist for not knowing this!!! why is that i wonder. (actually i do because there is no consistency in getting shocked about my non-knowledge of talking heads bloke and not getting shocked at this)

Is that the "woah...woah oh oh" song? If so, that's a good tune.

Didn't Lester Bangs say that in a Lou Reed interview?

First, the concert was supposed to start at 9:00pm. He had no opener, no other entertainment and still failed to come on until 10:15pm. Around 10:00, the crowd started booing him for taking so long. When he finally came on, his stage presence was HORRIBLE. He literally stood in one place almost the entire time. His dance moves included copying Michael Jackson and moonwalking about 10% of the time all while bouncing his arms and grabbing his crotch.

During "Cry Me a River," he repeatedly gave the finger, humped the ground-himself-the air and made blow job faces. He also changed a few words in the song so that he could curse more frequently.

His quote of the night was, "Hey guys! Thanks for coming. My album comes out next month and I hope you like it. If not ... -insert laughter- ... fuck you."

To listen to Justin's album Click Here

Source: ONTD
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JUSTIN I CAN HELP YOU HERE

also, why google when you guys can provide with information and free snarls?!

funny (but if you google talking heads : 35 300 000)

thanks a big one, ilx.

usually what happens is i then post about it six months later

my g/f fell down once, drunk during the second time. I helped her up and we continued dancing.

and you can't deny that article was spot on...

LINE OF THE YEAR

(btw thanks so much for the PG track. It's quite lovely)

Fucking wow! This makes up for the crappy "SexyBack" video a hundred times over. Best vid I've seen in a long time. I love the flying instruments and the girl with T.I. is...mmmmm.

dfa pls not to become the neptunes.

More boring than Lex's faux ignorance?
An argument about Lex's faux ignorance.

i also really fucking object to the assumption that i'm pretending not to know whoever the fuck this person is. it's knee-jerk snarkiness along the lines of "of COURSE paris hilton can't POSSIBLY have made a good name" which reveals the whole lot of you to have CLOSED MINDS.

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...) (webmail), September 6th, 2006 5:16 PM. (The Lex) (link)

Oh and I prefer Kelly Clarkson...

The new Omarion single > the JT singles

"Entourage" or a newer one? Cuz "Entourage" is pretty awesome.

I can't really see "What Goes Around" as a single, as I can't really imagine it except in it's entirety. "Lovestoned" and "Damn Girl" are my future bets.

Yeah I wouldn't enjoy hearing "LoveStoned" on the radio with "I Think That She Knows" removed.

i hope a full 'lovestoned/i think she knows' is the next single, or maybe 'chop me up'. 'what goes around' would be ok as a single but i fear 'damn girl'.

Anyone else heard "Take Control"?

Basically, it sounds kinda like "1 Thing", but less minimal and less good, but you probably already guessed that. Of course, there's a lot of room between "1 Thing" and "bad", and this falls somewhere in there. Rich Harrison is Rich Harrison, (or someone else is Rich Harrison, that's been happening a lot lately) big horns, extraneous percussion, etc. I like the dark surf guitar and the use of the male background vocals. (That whole pre-chorus section is a nice build.) Amerie's singing is more soul shouter-ly than usual (which in my book is a plus, though I realize a lot of ILMers don't like soul shouters, but boo to them). The best moment is at the begining of the second verse. "I gotta tell you how much I love it/ When you kiss my neck in public/ I try my best not to blush" and totally sings that last line with a blush. The song needs more a hook though.

-- Rodney... (rodneyjgreen...), October 20th, 2006.

'lovestoned' is a really terrific club track without the ending, those slivers of strings are just awesome, though i agree the interlude makes it even better.

'chop me up' is NOT ehh! it's so smooth and it has the funniest lines, probably. it's the song which goes best with jt's new besuited image.

My thoughts exactly.

Dan: And it's in the key of B major and starts on a B major chord.

Someone in the comments says that it's supposed to be a "posse cut" (since it is possibly from Timbaland's forthcoming album and has him supposedly targeting Scott Storch and Nelly F targeting Esthero). I dunno how much of any of that is true, but I guess part of the Prince diss seems like it's definitely aimed at his post-Emmys comments. And Janet definitely does work the mumble. Thoughts? I'll have to say that a Timbaland/Timberlake/Furtado diss track is one of the most surprising and least menacing diss track ideas to come along.

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i think i saw this comment on xxl once

(also 10 quid says danja handz ghosted every popular tim beat this year)

Finally got around to playing Justin's album this week. Has anybody pointed out that his singing sounds really, really consticted this time out? Maybe it did last time too, and I didn't notice, but this album is nowhere near as great as his first one. Maybe that's what comes from trying to imitate Prince instead of Michael Jackson? I dunno. I guess "Summer Love" is pretty good. Am I alone in this? (I haven't really been paying attention to the discussion about that album, at all, so it's not really clear to me what people think about it. -- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 4th, 2006.

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Uh, that was pretty incoherent of me, wasn't it? I meant am I alone in thinking the first Justin album was lively and effevescent and fun and funky pretty much from beginnning to end, and the new one sounds totally reigned-in, Timbaland or no Timbaland? Are people interpreting this as a "maturity" move, or what? Am I just confused?

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 4th, 2006.

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It's possibly less effervescent - although I think that perception w/r/t Justified puts disproprortionate weight on the singles as representative ("Senorita" and "Rock Your Body" in particular) - but I definitely wouldn't describe FutureSex/LoveSounds as reined in. If anything I'd say the opposite: most of the album tracks on Justified are content to generate just enough energy to be noticeable and perhaps vaguely interesting, whereas almost everything on the new one feels like it's constantly spilling over with ideas (good and bad), going in diferent directions, while not abandoning a commitment to pop-as-pop.
But yes, the singing is perhaps even more constricted. But I'm not really into Justin for his pipes per se.

-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), November 4th, 2006.

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Well, ok Tim, let me put it another way: Is there an equivalent of "Senorita" or "Rock Your Body" (or "Cry Me A River" or "Like I Love You") on the new one that I'm missing? I guess you're saying the new one is more consistent, which I don't really hear, but either way, who cares about consistency if there are no great songs? Though maybe people think are great songs, and maybe I just haven't noticed them yet. (Do people who prefer the new one to Justified tend to be people who prefer Prince to Michael Jackson? I sure don't. And the Prince that Justin's new album -- and specifically, say, "Damn Girl" -- reminds me of is Prince after I stopped giving a shit about him. '90s Jam-band-funk Prince, not early '80s new wave funk Prince. Snore. But maybe I'm missing something. Bottom line, on the new album, I just don't hear hooks. And the whole thing is hitting me as extremely cold and detached.)
Brooke Hogan's album, on the other hand, is growing on me a little.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 4th, 2006.

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I think there are great songs - possibly none as truly great as "Rock Your Body" but that just means that "Rock Your Body" is an awesome single, not that Justified is a great album (although i take the point that sometimes one or two great songs are enough to make an album venture seem worthwhile). And anyway the awesomeness of "Rock Your Body" only became completely clear when it was released as a single, when you'd hear it at a club when you were dancing with some girl/boy and you both couldn't resist choosing to perform the duet interchange as you danced.
I think that this album is mostly too dark/intense to recreate that situation, but it's too soon to tell really - I could imagine people singing along to "Damn Girl" perhaps. I don't think "mature" quite captures this album. It's more serious and intense and caught up in perfecting signifiers from other genres (hip hop, funk, Prince), and certainly pop albums have gone wrong before by focusing on these things rather than on simply great songs, but there's no reason why they can't also go right by doing this as well. In fact this is precisely what Justified did relative to Justin's N'Sync days, so it makes perfect sense that Justin would seek to go further down that path.

I agree that Justin is perhaps drawing as much or more from 90s Prince than 80s Prince, but for me this is actually a point in its favour (although I'd say it's more "Get Off"/"Sexy MF" Prince than, say, The Rainbow Children) - the dubiousness of this proposition relative to the safer option of emulating 80s Prince/MJ makes the album's success even more interesting. Though I recognise my argument rests on the premise that the album is a success.

-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), November 4th, 2006.

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Ha ha, "intense" is what people call lots of boring indie rock, too.
And "Sexy MF" would be on my short list of least sexy songs of all time.

Which isn't to say that I might not wind up liking Future Love/Sex Sounds a lot, someday -- right, like maybe when a few tracks hit me as singles. (Confession: I originally liked Nick Carter's solo album more than Justified!!) Though I gotta say, most of what Tim's saying really does not make me optimistic.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 4th, 2006.

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Different kind of intensity, I'd argue: closer to how I'd use the word when talking about rap or dancehall, and it's not necessarily adverse to chart success either - I'd call "Get Busy" "intense" (nothing on FutureSex/LoveSounds is as good as "Get Busy" but "Get Busy" is one of the best songs ever - I must say though that I was surprised that it was as big as it was, I'd previously thought it was too relentless to be so successful).

Of course FutureSex/LoveSouinds will necessarily be a disappointment if you specifically want Justin to be "lively and effevescent and fun", this is pretty clear from even a superficial sampling of both records.

Whether that makes it a failure as a pop album is a different question of course, as a lot of pop music becomes better pop to the exact extent that it seeks to run away from those attributes - e.g. Kelly Clarkson is a better pop star when she's singing "Since You've Been Gone" or "Behind These Velvet Eyes" or even "Because Of You" than when she's singing "Walk Away" (not a bad song, mind). Which is not to say that these songs don't often end up also being lively and effervescent and fun in a different kind of way, but whatever that way is it's mediated through the music's statement that it is or does not want to be any of those things.

Quite a few people decried "Like I Love You" and "Cry Me A River" as being try-hard, pretentious, enslaved to standards of musicality or style which took them away from being good pop songs. And, as much as I disagreed with those people, I felt there was a kernel of truth there: esp. with "Like I Love You", at first I found all of the carefully underscored and highlighted stylistic decisions (the deliberately naturalist drums etc.) to be almost obnoxious in their desire to be noticed and valued. A couple of months of radio play totally normalised the song though and now it sounds basically like good pop (it helps that several people subsequently attempted to make their own equivalents of this song). And, more than that, it's not good pop in spite of all the affectations, but because of them.

PS. I would at least agree that "Sexy MF" isn't as sexy as it holds itself out to be. The same applies to all the songs with "Sex/Sexy" in their titles on Justin's album. Somehow though the allusion to/desire for/aspiration to/simulcrum of "sexiness" is totally endearing in both cases, and perhaps more loveable than actual sexiness would be (I tend to think it's a core component of Justin's success that he in fact falls so short of his intentions on so many levels).

-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), November 5th, 2006.

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Well of course my problem with F L/S S so far is that it doesn't hit me as "dark" at all ("Cry Me A River" sounded darker than anything here -- almost goth!); I mean, I obviously might not mind the forfeiture of energy and fun if they were replaced with something, but so far as I can tell, they're not. The first album had more beauty to it, too (which isn't suprpising, given the less constricted singing). Tim's starting to convince me that this is going to be considered Justin's Pet Sounds or something. (The titles even almost rhyme!) But I'll take the early Beach Boys over PS anyday. (And "Sexy MF" isn't merely unsexy; it's horrible.)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 5th, 2006.

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Chuck I think you're reading more into my argument than I mean to be there if you're thinking I'm trying to set up the album as a Pet Sounds equivalent!
For me a better pop album comparison point might be Madonna's Erotica (perhaps not-coincidentally my favourite Madonna album, followed by her debut).

-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), November 5th, 2006.

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Some might argue that it's too soon for Justin to make his Erotica but if you count the N'Sync albums then the timing is about right.
-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), November 5th, 2006.

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Yeah, I can see that. But I never had any use for Erotica either, truth be told. When Justin makes his You Can Dance (or even True Blue or Ray of Light or I'm Breathless) (or, hell, Immaculate Collection),I'll listen.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 5th, 2006.

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(I'd pick her debut #1, though. But right, he's past that point.)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 5th, 2006.

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Timberlake's album as a whole is destined to look more sophomoric with time, but an album by a retro-futurist former child star with powerful friends, arty ambitions and amateurish tendencies is enough to entertain a lot of pop-crits for now. I like it a little more than Justified (fewer whinnies, makes more of his dorky side) but less than Confessions.
-- Zwan (anthonyisrigh...), November 5th, 2006.

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re chuck's objections to futuresex/lovesounds:
i don't really think of it as dark and would agree that 'cry me a river' is darker than anything here, though i know what tim means by intense - there's something in the loving attention to texture throughout which is very overwhelming, the way each sliver of sound seems completely perfect. i disagree that it forfeits energy and fun, too, but it's a different kind of fun: slicker, more poised, less bouncy and innocent. i actually think 'rock your body' is the worst justin single to date though i do like it, but to my ears 'lovestoned', 'sexyback' and 'chop me up' are more than its equal in terms of dancefloor fun.

i could see an argument in saying the justified singles are superior to the fs/ls ones, though bear in mind we've only had two of the latter (and i think 'my love' is the best yet, but then i would). and i'm not usually one to rate consistent albums over albums with great singles - but fs/ls is just such a coherent statement that it makes justified seem even more singles-and-filler than it did at the time.

bearing in mind that i also think erotica is, like, madonna's PINNACLE (and by extension pop music in general's pinnacle), we may have to put this down to never-the-twain-shall-meet differing tastes.

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), November 8th, 2006.

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Yes, I was pleased when I thought of the Erotica comparison b/c it seems like such a good analogy for why some people will/won't like the album. You're right that FS/LS isn't really dark - again, it's not-really-dark in the same way that Erotica is, insofar as that the album seems dark in retrospect if you don't think about it too closely.
Do you really not like "Rock Your Body" so much?

-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), November 8th, 2006.

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i do like 'rock your body', and i like it about a million times better on the dancefloor than anywhere else, but it falls way short of all the other justin singles for me. it's a bit...cheap-sounding? i think justin and uncredited girl do a really excellent vocal job with a rather pedestrian backing.
both erotica and fs/ls are cumulatively dark rather than song-by-song dark (though erotica much much more so, in that 'in this life' and 'bad girl' are much more staring-into-the-void than anything justin tries to do, and erotica explicitly deals with death as well as sex - justin's crack song, as good as it is, is not quite so bleak). but yeah, the darker moments somehow infect the less overt songs and make them dark by proxy.

the most successful dark moment on fs/ls is the '...comes around' coda! i'm not so keen on 'what goes around' because i feel it does absolutely nothing to build on the template already perfected by 'cry me a river' and 'nowhere', but the coda just sounds so...vitriolic and vengeful, and totally makes the song.

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), November 8th, 2006.

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Frank, do you know that Mandaryna also did "Here I Go Again" a few years ago? (Along with a smashing single from 2005 that might have been a cover but i really don't know called "Ev'ry Night").
Tim's comparison's good, but I heart Erotica and _hate_ FS/LS.

-- edward o (edwardo...), November 8th, 2006.

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do you really not like the rest of fs/ls ed, or is it just 'sexyback'?
-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), November 8th, 2006.

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It went through me and had almost no impact whatsoever. I mean, I'm all for imagination, but when some of this stuff is the output of a high priority pop act, the pendulum has swung too far.
"My Love" is OK. But then again, I only really liked "Rock Your Body" off the first one because it was such a joyous ray of technicolour exuberance. But at least Justified had actual SONGS ON IT.

-- edward o (edwardo...), November 8th, 2006.

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i don't get what's so non-songlike about anything on fs/ls!
-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), November 8th, 2006.

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Well, there's no bloody tunes innit. I can discern that the tunelessness is probably Justin's input, as when he was basically just doing change-a-word-take-a-third on the last one, there were at least some there.
Why are you trying to reason with me on this? My JT hate is well documented and rather irrational.

-- edward o (edwardo...), November 8th, 2006.

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i just listened to 'chop me up' five times in a row and the tune is MASSIVE.
-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), November 8th, 2006.

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Edward, I made "Ev'ry Night" my song of the day a couple of months back. Go to my MySpace blog and search for Mandaryna, where I refer to her tragic story.
I've only heard three tracks from the Timberlake - this won't stop me from jumping into this convo when I get the chance, but I have a lot to do in the next five days.-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), November 9th, 2006.

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Listening to Justin again. Maybe it will sink in this weekend, but I'm still not optimistic. "What Goes Around" is quite pretty. Most of the rest is sounding like a lifeless voice atop "interesting" sound effects. The music doesn't dance, it doesn't rock. The attempts at Prince-funk sound as forced at recent Prince. It just sounds failed to me, like whatever Timba and Timber were trying to do, they didn't pull off, like a zillion other records in the past quarter century that tried to add "ominionousness" to dance music, as if ominousness wasn't already there. Except records on Wax Trax were usually a lot funnier than this. Which is to say I wish Justin had a German accent maybe. (Wait, do people think of those illbegotten Ying Yang/Banner whisper tedium moves as an inspiration for this, in any way? I might buy that. Either way, I am proud to have finally used the word illbegotten for once in my life, though I probably spelled it wrong.) The slow songs seem less snoozeworthy than the (presumably less generic, given Timba-beats that tend not to be making me care about them) dance tracks. I'm really concluding that what people like about this thing is its ambition, but I don't get what's so impresssive about even that. As "serious artsy dance albums" go, it mmostly comes off half-assed. But I'll keep trying.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 11th, 2006.

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Also, just about the only thing that really makes me think it's even trying to sound "ominous" is just that it's just so fucking slow. And uh, occasional lines where Justin tells me he's "losing [his] way," I guess. Which just sound like words. He doesn't sound lost. But probably I'm still missing something.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 11th, 2006.

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One guess about what I'm missing: The beauty. Which I hear some in the ballads, in a dime-a-dozen hookless-soul-ballad-wannabe way, a lot less in the non-ballads. (I.e. - maybe this time the Usher comparisons make sense? But I've never really cared about anything Usher did.) Frank will probably hear the album eventually and hear beauty in the sound effects, like he often does in hip-hop where I have trouble hearing past the otherwise ugly vocals to hear what's beneath. In Justin's case, better melodies sure would have helped.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 11th, 2006.

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The music doesn't dance, it doesn't rock.

i don't think it sets out to do either though - the fact that several of the songs are very danceable seems incidental to the overall aim of the album, which is to be this gorgeously textured, lush, sprawling thing which isn't necessarily meant to do anything active to.

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), November 11th, 2006.

"LoveStoned/I Think That She Knows" gets more amazing the more I hear it: the way the strings cut into JT's beatboxing, the yelps JT interjects at unexpected moments. The first half works on its own terms; "I Think That She Knows" is what makes it impressive.

Apart from the chorus, I'm not as high on "My Love" as some people are. I'm more enamoured with the title track, which uses an "Erotica" falsetto and space in a way reminiscent (the latter, I mean) of the first Missy Elliott album.

'lovestoned' is not a 'great song' whatever it is.

it's mroe geir territory, really, but i just find it really uhnderwhelming as a song; and as a production, it's a lot less... exciting than 'rock your body'.

Oh baloney, Al. I like Justin fine, I like Timbaland fine, and I like Justin's cheese-funk fine when I can detect hooks in it. (If anything, my problem with the new album is that it isn't cheesy enough. That said, though, I think parts of it are starting to grow on me.) (Though not "Sexyback," which I might always hate.)

i think some people still have a lot of 'issues' with rhythmic hooks as opposed to melodic ones.

That's probably true. but given the zillions of funk, disco, hip-hop, techno, Latin, and industrial albums I've loved over the years, I'm pretty sure said category has never included me. (At any rate, "Futuresex/Lovesounds," "My Love," and "Lovestoned" are on the upswing for me. "Damn Girl" still sounds ridiculous, in a really strained way -- Justin striving to be Prince after Prince started humorlessly spinning wheels and throwing cheese out the window.
Most of the album still feels like an art attempt to me. And yeah, maybe an okay one. But way too cautiously "innovative" to be cheesy.)

in case you missed it:
Beenie Man - King Of The Dancehall (SexyBack Riddim)

you know that's a blend right? a dreadful, dreadful blend.

a "blend"? u and ur fancy lingo

i should put my 'sexyback/over and over' thing up

haha i forget what people call them now? mashup, there u go.

Over and Over like Fleetwood Mac or Hot Chip?

not Mac

LoveStoned video out. Not worth watching imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbkcvDtAghE

It seems to have disappeared via copyright claim. There isn't a "Sumer Love" video, is there? Interesting.

he REALLY should have released this instead of fucking "Summer Love."

"Summer Love" is AWESOME!

Really...I could listen to that synth line for hours!

I did just hear "Lovestoned" on the radio for the first time a few days back. The radio edit is rather masterful, cutting straight from the chorus after the guitar break into the Coldplay section and re-introducing the funk guitar line into the Coldplay section at the end. It was Canadian radio, though, so I wouldn't it above them to cheat.

Speaking of "Lovestoned", this is the best thing ever: some really quite talented writer concocts a piece of Fall Out Boy/Panic! at the Disco slash-fiction based on my review of Justin Timberlake for Pitchfork.

You should feel honored.

Notes: Subheadings thanks to Tim Finney, who might someday Google his name, find this, and be confused.

"really quite talented" is a bit pat actually. It's an excellent piece of writing. I don't quite understand the discourse in which it's situated though. The commentary on the story though all suggests that there is broad consensus that Ryan from Panic! actually is a damaged, needy, masochistic gay twink. Maybe he is though!

so is 'lovestoned' going to be the next single then? (he hasn't got round to 'summer love' over here yet.) the video sucks, it's like a windows media screensaver. and justin is really getting less and less hot.

and justin is really getting less and less hot.

NOT TRUE

lovestoned radio edit physically pains me. goldtrix remix tho.

holds up well 18 months on.

i love this

so you know what? i don't think this is awful! i actually really like it but he says sex one too many times

i'd rather hear the sex in his voice than have him spell it out

but, it's pretty freakin awesome

how did this chart?

i feel like all i heard from it was sexyback which i hated.

dude, there were like four singles at least.

FutureSex/LoveSounds was released in the United States on September 12, 2006. The album debuted at number one in the United States with first week sales of over 684,000.

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The success of the album is evident from its 8+ million unit sales worldwide to date. The album has yielded three number-one singles and six Top 20 singles in the United States.

nice

Saw his HBO special on tv the other day, and was reminded how much i enjoyed the album. even the ott "crack is bad" track. also, i don't think I paid enough attention to "damn girl" the first time around.

loved a couple singles but the album as a whole was really loathsome to me, between the blatant Prince rips, the blatant Timbo recycling, the blatant smugness, and generally thinner songwriting than on Justified or even the later N Sync stuff.

interesting.

loved this album.

see i haven't really heard any of his other stuff so i dunno

title track is my favorite

is that the 1st one? love that

Justified was half great, half filler. This one was mostly great, partly filler.

I think FSLS works better as an album than Justified, which is worthless after track 10 or thereabouts, but Justified probably had higher highs.

I wish "(And She Said) Take Me Now" was on FS/LS.

still love this, btw. the songwriting overall is way better than justified.

yeah, Justified definitely feels more uneven and sharply divided between killer and filler. I just don't think anything on FS/LS (outside of "My Love") is really killer other than relative to the total crap.

xpost

i think some of it's pretty killer, though probably badly derivative

omg do you ever stop

The four songs on FS/LS that weren't singles kill Justified's album tracks, sure – and I'm not even that fond of "Damn Girl" or "Sexy Ladies" (I actually had to look up the latter's title).

i am fond of 'damn girl'

brainwasher, stop what?

my love is summery

uh, the song My Love

o_O

"Nothin' Else" = most underrated JT song...more slinky Stevie Wonder songz plz

http://www.zshare.net/audio/52838912ecde9d1e/

some str8 up disco here

feelin this

^new track prod. by tim ft. t.i. - sounds like a single to me

tip's feeble singing on the bridge is uhhh cute? i'm feeling generous

that intro is awful but i'm glad i kept listening

not so into it once T.I. comes in tho

hai i'm liveblogging this song

chorus ain't so hot the second time around

that intro is awful

yeah **BEATBOX OVERLOAD**, tim

fuck yes!!!

basically i loved "rock your body" and im pretty sure i love this even though they might as well bill it as a 'duet'

plz dance with me, jt!!!!

bassline is a frankie beverly rip:

yeah, that's a lot of T.I.

took me a whole minute to figure out that the "takin' turns gettin' our faces decorated" line wasn't T.I. saying he lets his girl put makeup on him or something.

here is my final verdict

http://www.maltese-diamond.com/exhibitions/photo/97.jpg

ok surprisingly i like the T.I. singing

took me a whole minute to figure out that the "takin' turns gettin' our faces decorated" line wasn't T.I. saying he lets his girl put makeup on him or something.

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i disagree w/ your verdict, though, i'm just gonna stream this the once and never DL it

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jk

did you hear the Timbo track on the Jennifer Hudson album!? actually did the played out beatboxing style in a good way.

was that the one w/ luda? i liked that a lot

is that an actual subtle use of autotune on t.i.'s voice?

xpost: Never mind what haters say, ignore them 'til they fade away.
Amazing they ungrateful after all the game I gave away.
Safe to say I paved the way, for you cats to get paid today.

hahaha