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19 year old Art Student from Ireland. Likes Animal Collective, Matmos, Van Dyke Parks, cLOUDDEAD, Blondie, The Hidden Cameras, MF Doom, Laurie Anderson, Bjork, Gastr del Sol, Sunburned Hand of the Man, Ornette Coleman, Broadcast, Television, Neutral Milk Hotel and Roxy Music.

I'm a magazine addict and that list is probably not half as eclectic as I think it is...

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Heya and welcome. There's actually a couple of 'introduce yourself' threads around so it's always better to revive those! (The search function will be your friend.) This said, you're already coming across as more together than the previous 19 year old student to start posting here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

interesting list & it is pretty eclectic by (almost) anyones standards.

welcome.

Hidden Cameras are awful though.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, everytime I hear music is my boyfriend I make this stupid face and can't stop smiling...

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

that's a good enough reason to like anything!

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

OH wait, okay, right. I get how this thing works. Sorry, I thought by selecting the introduction thingy on the drop down list that I WAS adding it to one of those threads. I AM new to this so forgive me.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, no worries. Just browse around the various categories some more, you'll get the hang of it!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

welcome!

http://www.cuddlecards.com/ccimages/brown_sugar_baby_hugs-1.gif

Do you like Talk Talk? Your list makes me think you would.

― trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think I would like Talk Talk but everytime I look for them in a record store I find around a billion different BEST OFs. And have yet to actually see one of their albums. And whenever I buy best of's I never ever listen to them...*

*The above comment contains exaggerations.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Best ofs? Oyez! Try to get 'Spirit of Eden.' That's all you need by them...though 'Laugh Stock' is good, too.

― trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

This ain't fair. From The Ends makes the grievous mistake of starting his/her (guessing her) own 'welcome' thread and gets a huggle doggie picture from Cuddlecards.

In making the same error I got a picture of some circling buzzards and another of a boy about to be shot in the head...

Welcome in, anyway :)

Which era Roxy Music? I'm currently listening to For Your Pleasure, one of their two classics (the s/t debut being the other)...

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Stranded's my favourite, then the two you mentioned. And I'm not a girl.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oi, Ned, just spotted your little sly dig in the second post of the thread...what you mistook for insanity was probably more overconfidence and eagerness to impress. Unless you meant...whoops, my left patella's just scarpered, back in a sec...

Not a girl? Whoops, sorry 'bout that... :S Blasted internet...

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Another suggestion, Louis -- drop the ellipses. Specifically, drop using them EVERY TIME. (I use them myself but not as a tic. I have emoticons for that.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

My Achilles heel. Very well, I shall make a special effort.

(You have no idea how tough that last full-stop was)

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Incidentally, why did you think I was a girl. No offense taken by the way.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot believe MF Doom was in the middle of the list, that really caught me off guard you are splendid!

― Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Which era Roxy Music? I'm currently listening to For Your Pleasure, one of their two classics (the s/t debut being the other)...

The 1st 5 are classics.
And welcome to ILX.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and do you like My Bloody Valentine?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

i think the hidden cameras are great. nothing spectacular; just good indie pop fun. i'd love to see them live again.

welcome!

― Emily B (Emily B), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Erm, it was probably the cuddling dogs that threw me, either that or the line 'I make this stupid face and can't stop smiling'. I obviously need to lose some of my masculine, testosterone-fuelled preconceptions, perhaps that men can't be tender and emotive as well as ladies

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, god. I LOVE my bloody valentine. Especially that song "I only said". Ah... Have you ever heard their REALLY early stuff? It's different alright.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think you just passed the ILM test.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Test?

well i have 'you made me realise' live at san fran 02-03-92 on my itunes lol z0mg

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

QUIT TRYING SO HARD, LOUIS, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO PASS A KIDNEY STONE OF COOLNESS.

― Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jeez, I was satirising the 'need for cool mbv references' culture. Don't take everything so goddamn seriously!

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dentalgentlecare.com/images/HEADACHE-couple-web8.JPG

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Um... what does that picture mean?

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

40something parents despairing at their teenage offspring?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Why are 19 year olds suddenly appearing on ILM? [ILM turns 6 in a months time, so these youths would have been 13 when ILM started in August 2000.]

makes a change from NME brainwashed youth

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm 18, fuck you grampa

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

― Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

we iz not brianwashed i mean da Arctic Monkeys dey are da best fing like EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like you know how da NEM sez dey rote da fith best Brittish album of all time, well, i fink dey iz RONG!!!!!! it is at leats like the FIRD best at the very leastest!!!!!!!!!! ;) i mean fifty squazillllllion peeps cant be rong!!!!!! it iz well brilliant and it iz so true. i mean, look at da words dey use to put wiv da music (which iz also amazing an unbeleevabal) and dey iz like da most true wrods eva spoken about culcher an yooth an the like an they iz like the speaksman for our entiar jeneration, you know its true!!!!!!!!!! an dey play da mos amazzzzing nu sound it iz like nuffink ive eva herd b4 it iz a nu ideer like james blunt who invented beautifol music or maybe colplay dey iz awesome maybe da most inventiv band like eva altho sometimes dey iz a bit too weird for me!!!!!!! :-/ but yeh da Arctic Monkeys evry1 sez dere da best so dey must be rite innit lol!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D dey are da bigest band in da world eva an i cant wate for dere next single!!!!!!!!!!!

DA ARCIC MONKEEYZS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE OVA DA WORDL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dentalgentlecare.com/images/HEADACHE-couple-web8.JPG

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Louis, you are not funny. In fact, you are showing yourself to be painfully unfunny, patently unfunny, a grotesque heap of overreaching humor-impaired desperation. It makes us wish you were dead, which is a sad state of affairs. Now either shut up and calm down or get used to the fact that your presence on a thread will be met with despair. (Doubtless others have said similar about me, but this is part of why I can tell YOU this.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

i should change that logo from NTI to ILX

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Good idea, actually.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

ned you're just bitter because louis's sarcastic vitriol threatens to make your eternal optimism and garrulous chatter obsolete

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

It's like Ian R-M and Nowell had a baby. A SCARY BABY, like in "Demon Seed."

― Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

from The ends of your fingers - whereabouts in ireland you from? i was also a 19-year old student from ireland when i came across ilm.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

ned you're just bitter because louis's sarcastic vitriol threatens to make your eternal optimism and garrulous chatter obsolete

Help help!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

How old would Nowell be these days?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I like to divide my time between Limerick and Galway.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I was 17 when I first posted on ILM. Please tell me I was never as bad as young Mr. Jagger here.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

The first two sentences of that post, Ned, have been safely copied and pasted for future reference. Hey - from your 90's records list I gathered you were a safe dude with an astoundingly perceptive taste in music, but NOW, I'm thinking that you're...

...pretty perceptive when it comes to people too. Sorry, but I'm off to find a chair, a light-fitting and a rope. Enjoy the rest of your life.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

(make that first THREE sentences)

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus. I just wanted to say hello. For the love of God.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

There should be a standard introduction form for ILM so people can get a handle on you quickly, y'know, the way paedos fire off an A/S/L.
A/S/L/MBV? But that wouldn't fit with the arcane initiations.

Anways, hiya, how's it going, welcome welcome. I'm Irish and a recidivist student myself, just wrote off four years of trinity for a DIT course I barely know anything about (Oy!). You're doing art? Dun Laoighre, NCAD or something? I'm a Galwegian myself.

Also Louis, it's possible you have too much sugar in your diet, try switching to wholewheats and other slow releasing foods, green tea and decaf coffee, less cola, a little valerian before bed even.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

in one of my first posts here, I made the terrible mistake of shit-talking Durham. then a certain goat-y fellow chewed me out and I felt so bad I apologized to him at a concert a couple weeks later.

I'll bet that motherfucker still hasn't even played Metal Gear Solid 3, either.

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Mate (Alfonso), I'm the one reeling in shock at what's going on here. How can this have happened? Is what I've done really so completely criminal?

Off now, so you can thank your lucky stars you'll be safe for a while.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

No, relaxing in my hometown of Galway right now but I do painting in Limerick School of Art & Design. We are part of LIT but since we have a separate campus we like to pretend we are in some way superior. By we I don't mean me by the way.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

I was 17 when I first posted on ILM. Please tell me I was never as bad as young Mr. Jagger here.

i guess i was 19 when i first posted, too. my first was something genuinely serious like "PITCHFORKGATE: ARE THEY FUDGING THE YEAR-END POLLS??" hahaha.. i'm pretty, er, benign nowadays.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

There are people on ILX who still don't realize the genius of late Roxy Music?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jagger, you didn't get any huggies because... well, you like (and will defend) Oceansize.

Also, I would like to express my dismay at some of the ageism expressed on this particular thread. Patently unfunny, eager-to-impress, shit-eating types come in all shapes, sizes and ages. So do people who know what the hell they're talking about (or those who keep quiet until they have something decent to contribute). So quit the generalized 'these yung'uns' bitching, not only because it's rude to the younger ILXor set who know (or want to know more) about what we're speaking, but because it makes you sound like a bunch of old ninnies.

― trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

okay here it is:

http://oberlin.edu/student/lfamular/headache.jpg

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

enjoy

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

trees OTM. Meanwhile...

― Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

I hope ilx is still around in the future so I can introduce my firstborn son to it on his 18th birthday

and then call him out for the token martian pick on his year-end list

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

is that funny?

xpost

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

All right, I apologise for the Arctic Monkeys outburst, it WON'T happen again, it WASN'T big nor clever, and I WILL try to act more reasonably in future. You won't catch me conforming to a 'music-critic snarky stereotype' though.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Paul Morley on the telly talking about how great the Arctic Monkeys are. It was really disappointing. He said they were the best British band of the moment.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Louis, just tone it down a little & stop apologising. you'll be fine. in fact you already are. "It makes us wish you were dead, which is a sad state of affairs." is pretty vile & not just because of the assumed "us".

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there's always using the royal we.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

i believe that's exactly what you did

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

:-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, was this all part of the 'troll campaign' on the 'Ban Louis Jagger' moderator thread? Just curious, y'see.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

This is the first I've heard about said thread or some supposed campaign, thank you very much. Now that you've called attention to this thread I will look into it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Likes Neutral Milk Hotel

Sweet let's be friends.

― Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Chill louis, it isn't necessary to reply to EVERYTHING here.

I think they were vultures by the way.

― tolstoy (tolstoy), Sunday, 30 July 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

oh dear i hadn't seen that Modreq thread and now realise i haven't been folowing this saga as closely as others (probably just as well).

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 30 July 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

modreq is the dark side of ilx

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

No Pink Floyd jokes please.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 30 July 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

sorry unintentional

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

I meant jokes after what you said.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 30 July 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

He means like:

Classic or Dud is the Meddle of ilx

Newbies are the Momentary Lapse of Reason of ilx

like that right?

trolls are the Obscued by Clouds of ilx

or...

cause they're NOT funny

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Sunday, 30 July 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

if newbies are the Momentary Lapse Of Reason of ilx,

i'm probably The Dogs Of War

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 30 July 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://oberlin.edu/student/lfamular/headache.jpg

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

yeah all those jokes were really bad; i shouldn't have dwelt on it

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

All thats needed now is Custos.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 31 July 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

Shit like this is why I lurk.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 31 July 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hello fellow Irisher. Ignore all the unpleastantness, things'll calm down soon enough.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

Now there are a few Irish here, I suggest we all get a tricolour and go and watch Christy Moore.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

Or create a "I Love Trad" board.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, sweaty Christy Moore. Seen as the very pinnacle of singer-songwriter entertainment in Ireland. His only concession to showmanship is mentioning place names in songs, at which the audience usually goes mental. And making very simplistic political analogies. And sounding like he's on the verge of a heart-attack ALL THE TIME. He's a superstar, no doubt.

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

it's the Saw Doctors for me. esp. when Ollie Jennings organises a whole alternative to the Galway Arts Festival just so he can have them play on Eyre Square. hehe.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

Any band that calls a song 'I'd Like To Bang The Bangles' has got to be....shit.
Still, 'I Used To Love Her' (sadly not a Guns n'Roses cover) toppled The Sultans Of Ping's 'Where's Me Jumper?' for a brief period as Ireland's alternative national anthem. We are a proud nation.

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

The Saw Doctors played my village hall. Boyzone were once meant to, but then they started to get traction and moved to a bigger venue.. Claregalway. Of course they're shit, it's Gaa shirt rock.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

I may break out an LOL for the term 'GAA Shirt Rock'. That's inspired.

LOL!

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Where's the love for the Hothouse Flowers? Have you people no hearts?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

The Saw Doctors played an important role in the 80s, when it was vital that Irish people could look up to a band whose wardrobe you could buy in Dunnes Stores.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

anyone hear Christy's Radiohead album, 'Emergency Culture'? it has to be heard to be believed. imagine the human league after 5 pints of guinness and a jameson chaser.

― Michael B (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

The Saw Doctors, good GOD. (A coworker around here likes them a lot. I acknowledge this and move on.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

I saw this documentary about the Saw Doctors where John Waters babbled on about them being in this Yeats-ian literary tradition. But their fanbase is pretty different from, say, Final Fantasy...

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

John WATERS? You're kidding me, right?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

The Irish journalist now. Not the guy with the transvetites eating faeces and Tab Hunter.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

irish journo, ned, not the gross out movie director

OP10: GAA Shirt Rock

The Pogues\The Dubliners - The Irish Rover
The Sawdoctors - N17
The Waterboys - Bang on the ear
The Stunning - Brewing up a storm

errr.....

― Michael B (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

sorry feces

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, thank you, for a second my world view was about to collapse and die.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

John Waters was married to Sinead 0'Connor or if not married at least her partner, he lost the kids to her in raging custody battle. Rants in his column in the Irish Times about father's rights. He's an old bollix.

The Hothouse Flowers... I grew up beside Fiachna's family's summer home. We had Liam and Fiachna around the beach regularly. I think one of them had a girlfriend who swam naked in front of everyone eliciting outrage and lolling tongues. I loved their album Home when it came out (I was very young. Liam's turned into self styled sean-nós singer, typical delusions of the gaelgóir set.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Wikipedia:

John Waters (born Castlerea, Co.Roscommon, Rep. of Ireland) is a columnist with The Irish Times and former editor of Magill, an Irish political magazine. His career began with the political/music magazine Hot Press. He is also the father of a daughter named Roisin with singer Sinéad O'Connor. John has vociferously campaigned on fathers' rights in Ireland.

n 2006, Waters wrote a song for the Eurovision song contest which wasn't accepted. He referred to people who had publicly criticised his song as "Corner Boys" in a column in Village magazine. During an appearance on David McWilliams's discussion programme The Big Bite, he repeatedly interrupted a music critic, also appearing on the show, by saying "Look at the critic!" until asked to not interrupt by the host. On this programme he claimed that all book reviewers read was the first and last chapters and filled in the gap in between themselves.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Moany old c-bag. Funny how that's not in the wikipedia...

Was dragged about 2 years ago to a HF (who I don't actually like) gig by some lady friends of a certain age (25-32 odd) who can remember when the bare foot one was a sex god. He isn't anymore but christ, the pushing and screaming by the ladies in the crowd. Myself and another friend were the only men there not on stage (or so it seemed). The gig wasn't too bad actually, more instrumental than I could have hoped for :)

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

haha
I think they probably appeal to that type of woman who just wants hairy sex with a New Age Traveller but also wants him to be hygenic.
They played at the Edge's sister's birthday. I thought that was perfect:
U2's wedding band.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Coincidentally, I brought the first Plague Monkeys EP to work with me today, and it does veer very close to the dreaded 'Celtic mysticism'. Fantatstic record, though.

Like most elder statesmen of Irish journalism, John Waters is an hilarious old bastard. His relationship with Sinead O'Connor was a more lively version of the Tony Parsons/Julie Birchill mismatch, except with reggae, religion and Bjork ripoffs.

And if we're talking Hothouse Flowers, we've talking the Rolling Stones to their Beatles, The Four Of Us. Man, the 80s was a great time for band names, wasn't it?

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

OP10: GAA Shirt Rock

The Pogues\The Dubliners - The Irish Rover
The Sawdoctors - N17
The Waterboys - Bang on the ear
The Stunning - Brewing up a storm

The Four of Us - Mary
Sultans of Ping - Where's Me Jumper?
Hothouse Flowers - Don't Go (mmaybeee)
A House - Here Come The Good Times
Thin Lizzy - The Boys Are Back In Town

I'm short one. Shay Healy to thread

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Aslan - This Is

Released every five minutes

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Aslan - Crazy World
So GAA Shirt Rock it hurts. HURTS.

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, its yours.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Most gracious of you, Ends of Your Fingers. And hello + welcome, by the way.

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Trivia fact I listened to RTE 2 Dave Fanning's Rock Show 8pm - 10pm in West Wales on FM radio before new ilxor (prosper.strummer.) was born in the mid 1980s !

my fav Irish 80s album: Cactus World News - Urban Beaches released May 1986 !

watch on You Tube:

Cactus World News - Worlds Apart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZowqTxy8Ig

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Representing Northern Ireland: My faves: That Petrol Emotion

Watch on You Tube:

That Petrol Emotion - Keen (A single from September 1985)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfSANgRA6cE

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Martian you should take on Hotpress as an object of bitter mockery alongside NME, it's if anything far worse. Julie Roberts interview:
Q: "What's your favourite colour?" I don't remember the answer, I remember the incredulity.

I always find it funny that Welsh people listen to RTÉ. I've not listened to Dave Motormouth Fanning in a long time. I miss his cinema show on the telly. He has a new slot on RTÉ radio one in their new longer format drive time show. RTÉ figured out they could boost Listnership figures by making the shows longer! Hah.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Hotpress is worse than NME.
I remember Fred Durst being on the cover and a lot of enthusiasm for Linkin Park.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

In the mid 80s, Radio 1 before 10pm [John Peel] was still on medium wave, i preferred listening to RTE 2 on FM !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not the world's biggest HotPress fan, and it seems like an extraordinarily insular publication, but worse than NME? That's quite a gauntlet to throw down.

I remember seeing Dave Fanning's cinema programme and thinking, I bet he just goes into the RTE offices and says 'I fancy doing a cinema programme', and the bosses went 'Whatever'. I think he got carte blanche because, for a while, he was the only person under 60 actually working at RTE (apart from Ray Darcy).

Does Donal Dineen still have a radio show?

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Donal Dineen - Today FM
http://www.todayfm.com/sectional.asp?id=905

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

I miss his frankly bizarre intros on No Disco. And Uaneen Fitzsimons :(

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Used to get Hot Press sent for free to the trinity publications office, so I inevitably ended up looking through it. Ugly arsehole for the PR industry. And Stokes still edits it, weird. They make you pay for their website too don't they? NME don't swallow nearly as much PR bullshit and re-publish it as articles. The Nokia society pages at the back, the bacardi breezer sponsored pieces, etc etc. Random people on the cover because they're pushing a new film. So much trash to filter through. I feel sort of guilty for being so critical, I imagine it's not easy in a small market not to take every penny you can.

I always forget that there are radio DJs in Ireland I like. Dineen on Today FM being one. The good old days of Eamon Dunphy, Followed by John Kelly, followed by Donal Dineen.... ahhh I miss them. I enjoy An Taobh Tuathal on Radio na Gaeltachta as well, glad they got rid of the No English rule for modern music.

Speaking of, John Kelly got more and more "old" on Radio 1, and now he's on drivetime on Lyric... weeeurdd. He had Bono and Elvis Costello phone in on his last Mystery Train.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I heard they're thinking of dumping Rattlebag too. I mentioned it to the NUIG dancer in residence and her friend (don't ask) at a dance recital during the Arts festival (don't ask) and they got all high horsey and then the interview came. Soon they'll just rewire a toaster to talk like Larry Gogan and hey presto! I don't think Liveline even requires a host anyway (?).

I don't really accept the excuses you make for Hotpress. Foggy Notions went for a more international focus and made a magazine that's good. The free Tomlab CD was great too. AND I came across Hey Willpower there. (I really hope the European tour in October stops by Ireland, so many before haven't)

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

...sorry

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

interesting list & it is pretty eclectic by (almost) anyones standards.

Ah come on, you gotta be ironic? I mean, sure, these are gR34T artists but eclectic? It seems obsessively musically correct to be honest.

I'm a magazine addict and that list is probably not half as eclectic as I think it is...

No, pretty selfconscious.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Jeez...

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Musically correct by what standards?

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Nathalie, you're being a dick. that list is eclectic, certainly for a 19 year old.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

no sufjan, no credibility

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I've read that somewhere. Wasn't that from some debate about the Wire's end of year list?

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

oh, necessarily

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hidden Cameras and Neutral Milk Hotel are musically, and every other way, INCORRECT.

which is to say that whether it's a good list or not is up to you but i didn't know many Ornette Coleman fans when i was just starting uni.

xposts

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

They're not thinking of dumping rattle bag, they are, it's gone as soon as the current run ends. More time for liveline and an expanded mid-day shite radio slot. They promised a new show, but at some ridiculous hour of the night arouns 11 or something, meaning all RTE arts coverage will be at night (the only other coverage being the View... God, to even have Cursaí Ealaíne back). RTÉ One radio annoys the fuck out of me. Newstalk is going national which I think is great, their Arts and Entertainment show on sat and sun mornings is a good listen,

"the excuses you make for Hotpress."

Did someone make excuses for it? I called it the ugly arsehole of the PR industry.

also Nathalie's comment: lacking decency, goodwill, warmth or any modicum of friendliness etc. Get a grip.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not saying it's a crap list, just not very eclectic. *shrug* Oh whatever, I'm probably being a dick. I just hate it when people use that word. :-) I just think it's so painfully correct. I like people to have really weird obsessions: like listen to Ornette Coleman but also love, I don't know, schlager music or eighties Cher music. Know what I mean? Ah hell, I don't know, whatever. :-)

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

DISCLAIMER

I listen to fuck all jazz, Only Ornette Coleman and Alice Coltrane.

And Van Dyke Parks and Neutral Milk Hotel rank equally with me.

Oh, and Sun Ra, but I've got fuck all.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

And I know its not very eclectic. I like to try out different music, but its evidence of what a boring bastard I am that the stuff I really like is not that dissimilar.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer people to not listen to ornette coleman at all, but I catch your drift

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost)

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Rank equally at number one. That is.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I never did like Neutral Milk Hotel, except IAOTS. That one nearly made me cry. But, ah hell, I couldn't cry cause I'm a dick and all.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

sorry Nathalie, you're not a dick! maybe my OWN taste is a bit too correct. it's worth thinking about!

xpost

sorry sorry sorry

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, hell, I was being trollish. I'm probably too self-aware of my own inconsistent taste. lejospopo@gmail.com, I'm probably just jealous cause I was listening to Ocean Colour Scene and Paul Weller at your age. *roffle*

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

why is akron/family so good you guys

and will they ever play anywhere near here

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT FILL BORING TUESDAY AFTERNOONS AT WORK

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

it is tuesday right?

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

C'mere, the list is probably on the sedate side. Mainly due to the butchering the last 19year old got. (See ABOVE!). I'm not really trying to impress anyone, I just figured it was so everyone knew pretty much where everyone else stood on general things without having to wait for it to emerge. I wasn't really putting it there for scrutiny. And I prefer Psychocandy to Loveless. So there.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, no LOVELESS over Psychocandy. I think. (MBV?)

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

My second chance to use this!

http://static.flickr.com/65/204226703_41e6a0c07a_o.gif

muahahaha

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

MBV, yes. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

And I STILL haven't even heard Akron/Family.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

more for the rest of us

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Aren't people already being influenced by them?

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

But I like Sufjan too. I burnt Illinois for about five people at college and they all now claim it is their favourite album ever.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

truth is, i didn't think it was THAT eclectic a list but i thought it would be welcoming to say it was and i was trying to pre-empt the haters, ILM being what it is now.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

(seriously though, check out "Running, Returning" or "Shoes" or "Future Myth" or just go ahead and buy both albums. it's like The Jungle Book with the Flaming Lips as Mowgli, Animal Collective as Baloo, and Radiohead as that creepy snake)

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I keep meaning to dammit! I've got a heap of indie stuff I've been catching up with lately, (Imperial Teen totally passed me by and I was never really that bothered by Devendra or Yo La Tengo and until lately, see, boring bastard) It makes sense now. I was pretty surprised that people actually thought it was eclectic. I just meant I'd LIKE to think it was. But I know that's not true. Italo is something I never woulda come across outside of this place, so I was really hoping I could broaden my horizons. There's no point limiting yourself to New Weird-lite and Indie Pop unless you know that's all you like. And I don't know that.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

And I'm a 19 year old art student. I'm supposed to be self concious.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

There's no point limiting yourself to New Weird-lite and Indie Pop unless you know that's all you like. And I don't know that.

Quite right. You're doing fine -- just never stop discovering things and surprising yourself.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

seeing Akron/Family labelled as "New Weird-lite" has caused a wave of nausea to wash over me, which can only be reversed by listening to more Akron/Family

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I NEVER called Akron Family that. I couldn't. I meant my own tast of Devendra Banhart and Joanna Newsom. I told you. I've never heard Akron/Family only heard of them. I couldn't label something I've never heard. Sorry if that was unclear.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

no, it's okay, I'm starting to think the nausea may have been delayed-reaction heatstroke

the important thing is, thanks to you I am now listening to Akron/Family again for, like, the eighth time in the past two days

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Um... don't mention it.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

b-but I already--!

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

this board is truly a weird place sometimes

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, right. Now you've really peaked my interest in Akron/Family. They were in my get round to them eventually list. I still haven't heard this new Aleesha from Misteeq song for chrissakes, and I kinda implied I had by arguing about it elsewhere. Something I'm never doing again btw (pointless? I think so.) Hang on while I at least myspace them.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

to myspace is a verb now? I fear for the future...

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Well... it must be. Right?

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

to myspace is a verb now? I fear for the future...

Let me google that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, I DID try that before. Fucking thing won't play!

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Late to thread, but all the talk of GAA shirt rock - Tom Dunne should do a compilation - reminds of a Hothouse Flowers story from their 'heyday'. Big baggy black T- shirts with long sleeves were the raggle taggle look of choice back then and the Flowers tour manager wanted their merchandiser to do up a small run of tour shirts especially for the crew and described what he wanted over the phone; the band logo as small crest on the front and the word 'crew' spaced out along the length of the sleeve; they came back with the words 'crew spaced out' along the sleeve....

― sonofstan (sonofstan), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost

at least Murdoch doesn't own Google the way he owns Fox, MySpace and the Labour Party...

know any good communes Ned?

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

He probably will soon though.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

to myspace is a verb now? I fear for the future...

Let me google that.

i'll have to wikipedia both of those terms...

― J. Grizzle--Here Comes Treble (trainsmoke), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

I wish Dogpile had been a more succesful search engine and reached verbification level.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Also, if anyone could tell me anything about this band Smile Kick who appear on the Rabid Chords VU Tribute compilation that would be great! I got nothin' and their version of the Black Angel Death Song is great.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

1. It isn't an eclectic list, Nathalie. But I'm pretty certain that you weren't some sort of wild queen of eclecticism when you were 19 either.

2. Akron/Family are really a bunch of boring shite, fingers. The lyrics are enough to make me want to scream. And the music is bland.
Also, if anything, they are influenced by others. Not influencing anyone.

3. THAT HUGGIES THING WAS MINE ALFONSO.

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

Have you ever seen Akron/Family live though?

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

To go back to the Irish discussion, yeah I always forget Donal Dineen exists too, the guy is the only genuinely alternative host in Ireland. He comes into the shop where I work and buys Border Community 12s=respect.

As for HP, think Major Alfonso pretty much nailed it. As a former writer I'm hardly impartial but........well FUCK THEM.

: )

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 08:26 (nineteen years ago)

Care to do a little self-promotion, Ronan? I'm back in the motherland over the Electric Picnic weekend, and I never get enough time to explore the new record shops that have popped up in the few years that I've been away (I presume you're Dublin-based).

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

2. Akron/Family are really a bunch of boring shite, fingers. The lyrics are enough to make me want to scream. And the music is bland.

o shit yr right

sorry never mind fingers

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

I liked "Here comes the night" and "Headphones" are they still on? Also Phantom FM, what's the story?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

YES! Electric Picnic should be class!

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

I work in Carbon inside the Urban Outfitters in Temple Bar, so easy to find, it's good for dance/indie/soul type stuff mostly. I'd say most people could find some stuff they like there.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

Indeed, I remember getting Tortoise's 'Standards', a Shaolin Soul comp and a Tom Brock CD in a 3 for 25euro sale there. I'll be sure to check it out again!

So, who of the ILX Irishers (or otherwise) are going to Electric Picnic?

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

My favourite place is Plugd in Cork.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

haha, trees, I know the huggies thing is yours but there isn't enough hugs on ilm, I just wanted to spread the love (esp recently).

Ronan, I remember narking you when you were working on Hotpress for not giving respect to the review section when I did read reviews in the Ticket and the Tribune, sorry about that! (I don't buy an Irish Sunday paper anymore, none of them are worth it). But yeah, I wouldn't give HP my money. I'm also now completely ignorant as to what's happening music wise in Ireland...
Never bought anything in Carbon, I always forget it exists. Urban Outfitters' clothes are muy expensive. Must remember Carbon's in there though.
I have an Electric Picnic ticket but not entirely sure I'm going yet. Ought to be though.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

*ahem* Plugging mine own thread here:

Electric Picnic in September...

Hot Press is woejus. I like Foggy Notions. Not the Tomlab CD though, sorry Mr. End of Fingers.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

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