John Phillips' "Wolf King of L.A." to be reissued and expanded!

Das Spiel: What "theory" do you speak of? It's the sound of a man descending into drug-addled darkness, being compelled to lay down his demons onto wax. I don't find it to have been composed under any self-conscious theory.

Thanks, David Fricke.

Just thought I'd be helpful and share. Sorry to disturb everyone's peace with my incredibly disruptive thread.

xp

this grammar bugs me

I'm off to listen to my CSS (joke.)

It's things like this that make me feel good about getting a sealed copy on cd last year at a record show for ten bucks. The guy I bought it from even said, "Ah, man that's a great album" when I paid him.

Then again, I'm also reminded of the fairly pristine vinyl copy I missed picking up at a used book store around the time Phillips died. It couldn't have been more than five dollars. Oh well.

Damn near perfect record.
Was never a Mama's & Papa's fan aside from a few of the hits ("California Dreamin" included) but I finally saw a cheap copy of it. Goddamn, so good. Like Spooner Oldham arranging for Gene Clark. Great piano throughout. Excellent rainy summer night jam.

im surprised u never listened to this, it seems right up ur alley

and yeah totally dope record

Yeah, I just never saw it around and I don't download things. It rules.

really great record, totally nails the post-hippie comedown of early 70s LA. there was a comp of previously unreleased post-Wolf King material that came out a while back, a few good cuts on it but the drugs were starting to take their toll on phillips. lol heroin.

i like this a lot too btw

More staying power than If I Could Only Remember My Name IMHO.

^for reall.

I even dig the maybe sometimes ott gospel-y backing vocals

Just got this sent to me in the mail and I am befuddled.

Wow, how could it possibly be "enhanced"!

seems to be john's own recordings of the stuff he wrote for his flop musical, with a lot of help from his wife. i think a couple of those tunes have been on the recent post-Wolfking stuff that has come out. as much as i love Wolfking,it is very clear the drugs started to take their toll on his ability to write coherently in the period after the solo record, so you have interesting tunes here and there amongst a lot of iffy material.

The booklet with the disc goes into all the detail -- pretty sad/crazy stuff, especially with the instant flop reception of the musical.

That said, giving a listen to this now and whatever the merits of the overarching story of the musical, the songs are pleasant at the least and performed very nicely -- basic arrangements as suit recordings for a larger project. "Andy's Talkin' Blues" probably my favorite so far, but the von Braun impersonation on "Song of Introduction," complete with accent, wins for WTFness.

I had no clue Andy Warhol Presents Man on the Moon existed until this very instant. Too bad the musical wasn't a hit because then we would've gotten a flop movie musical.

If you haven't heard this album, you are a grade-A creep.

always loved this

“Don’t hate my father,” Mackenzie Phillipstells PEOPLE.

But in a tell-all book out Wednesday, the former childhood actress reveals that her dad, musician John Phillips of the ’60s band the Mamas and the Papas, engaged with her in a long-term incestuous relationship.

Phillips, 49, who has survived drug addiction, arrests and divorce, writes in the book “High on Arrival” that she was already a star playing a boy-crazy teen on the TV sitcom “One Day at a Time” when her father had sex with her on the night before she was to marry Jeff Sessler, a member of the Rolling Stones entourage, in 1979.

“On the eve of my wedding, my father showed up, determined to stop it,” writes Phillips, who was 19 and a heavy drug user at the time. “I had tons of pills, and Dad had tons of everything too. Eventually I passed out on Dad’s bed.”

“My father was not a man with boundaries. He was full of love, and he was sick with drugs. I woke up that night from a blackout to find myself having sex with my own father.

“Had this happened before? I didn’t know. All I can say is it was the first time I was aware of it. For a moment I was in my body, in that horrible truth, and then I slid back into a blackout.”

Phillips’ life began to spiral out of control. In 1980, she was fired from “One Day at a Time” because of her constant drug use. That same year, she went to rehab — with her father. She even toured with him in a band called the New Mamas and the Papas. Her sexual relationship with him had become consensual.

“I was a fragment of a person, and my secret isolated me,” she writes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32976391/ns/entertainment-celebrities/

whoa.

fucking hell!

irl wolf

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hxdnntF5Nso/SmypheVWgXI/AAAAAAAAEXA/BhAk6itfZtE/s400/macPhillips.jpg

Is it OK if I still want to hear this record after reading that bit above?

holy shit

This is making me feel crazy.

xxp

i put it on right when i read that story.
the pic of him on the back cover looks really freaky now

^^ha was just thinking that

^lol me too.
MAn, I like that record, but I don't know when I'll put it on next without thinking about this first.

"reissued and expanded"

yeah jeeze, what a bummer :\

“One night Dad said, ‘We could just run away to a country where no one would look down on us. There are countries where this is an accepted practice. Maybe Fiji.’

OOOOOOOOO_o

ya feel pretty conflicted about this album now

nuts

eurgh

barf

“One night Dad said, ‘We could just run away to a country where no one would look down on us. There are countries where this is an accepted practice. Maybe Fiji.’

the secret meaning of "kokomo" revealed

There are countries where this is an accepted practice.

I don't think so.

he really does seem like the horriblest person.

*shudder*

lol i switched on my iPod this morning and "Drum" was the first song that came up on random

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/chynna-phillips-2009239

He was nice enough to share her with Mick Jagger, however.

so is this gonna also out Mick Jagger as a pedophile?? she kinda threw him under the bus, can't look good for Mick to have someon say on Oprah that he wanted to bang a 10 year old girl!

This is especially snarling up my insides bcuz as a grade school age One Day At A Time watcher I definitely had some kind pre-sexual crush on MP. Dear god the squickiness. 10 years?!?! Ka-barf!

She's cute as a button in American Graffiti. Wonder if she was already on the stuff even then.

so is this gonna also out Mick Jagger as a pedophile?? she kinda threw him under the bus, can't look good for Mick to have someon say on Oprah that he wanted to bang a 10 year old girl!

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:57 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

didn't like every rock star of the 70s have an underage girlfriend?

It just gets more and more gross... last night when I first heard about it all I heard was that he raped her after getting her high. Then I heard that it went on. Then I heard that they had sex the night before she got married. Then I heard it went on for ten years. Then I started listening to a bunch of noise records to try and block the whole thing from my mind. Not working.

One more utterly sad angle is that now the brother and sisters are beginning to comment, and it all seems to amount to "sigh... yeah." Whether they knew about before or not, just this acceptance of how truly fucked up their family was. It is so depressing.

Delete california, money, cocaine.

i never realized just how many famous or slightly famous people were in this family, jeez the press is gonna be knocking down the doors of every last one of 'em for months

interesting how chynna basically is 180 degrees away from her mom on this one.

i already thought he was one of the scariest people ever after reading his book. and that was HIS side of the story.

so is this gonna also out Mick Jagger as a pedophile??
Actually, Jagger was gentlemanly enough to wait until her 18th birthday before he jumped her. The story, as told by MacKenzie years ago, is that Jagger seduced her while John was on the other side of the door, pleading with him to be gentle with her.

What a reality TV show that family would have made.

like i said on the other thread, michelle is probably feeling like her legacy is on the line so she's lashing out. i wouldn't be surprised if she relented in the near future, esp. if the other siblings come forward and back mackenzie

"What a reality TV show that family would have made."

Yeah, darn. If only there were TV cameras to document it all!

Oh lord... please let there not be videos...

fucking your own daughter... dood what are you thinking.

I always really loved Wolfking dark moments and all. But hearing that record he did with Mick and Keith, "Pussycats"(especially the song "She's Just 14") creeped me out. Now this. Yeesh.

fucking your own daughter... dood what are you thinking.

(some jokes are too wrong even for me)

yeah, the post-wolfking stuff that's been coming out def has a pronounced sleazy aspect. i put that down mostly to drugz but it's way beyond that apparently

This is just so fucked up. I mean, he MADE her, how the fuck can you fancy your own blood and then even fuck her for a DECADE. And shooting up his own daughter. It's just unbelievable. In a way I refuse to believe this. Really.

"My family is and always will be a decrepit bowl of dog urine compared to Nityananda of Ganeshpuri. That is how great Nityananda is." The Indian yogi died in 1961. "Worship Nityananda, not the Phillips family. Nityananda can protect you," said Tamerlane.

for the curious:

http://www.last.fm/music/John+Phillips/_/She%27s+Just+14

Ah, good ol' "family values...."

"I am stunned by Mackenzie's terrible allegations about her father," Waite, John Phillips' third wife, wrote in a statement released to "The Oprah Winfrey Show." Mackenzie Phillips appeared on the show Wednesday. "I would often complain about her overly familiar attitudes towards him, and he said it was just her way. John was a good man. ... He was incapable, no matter how drunk or drugged he was, to have sexual relations with his own child."

yep, it was all MacKenzie's fault, poor John being seduced like that, what a victim

"My family is and always will be a decrepit bowl of dog urine compared to Nityananda of Ganeshpuri. That is how great Nityananda is." The Indian yogi died in 1961. "Worship Nityananda, not the Phillips family. Nityananda can protect you," said Tamerlane.

wait wtf link plz

naming one of his kids Tamerlane is probably the only cool thing he ever did

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/not_his_faves_WMaXcjAtNGqu31Am4Rem6L

naming one of his kids Tamerlane is probably the only cool thing he ever did

― Hat Trick Swayze (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:14 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well also his music was pretty good

Comments on the NYP item are hilarious, since the item ran two days before the real allegations came out.

"Hey Mackenzie, do us all a favor, do something worth talking about and come back to us... Otherwise, let's move on!"

http://payplay.fm/phillipscann

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my drummer worked on tamarlane's album last year, I just remembered. he said that was...interesting.

looking at the person who started this thread, I must ask . . . . who's a "grade A creep" now, eh?

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Listening to Pay, Pack and Follow (yes, the one with "She's Just 14" on it" - pretty great song, actually, sorry) for the first time today since it came out. I remember liking it OK when it came out - was generally pretty underwhelmed after being such a big fan of the Wolfking album - and filed it away. But today it's sounding terrific - got that X-Pensive Winos / solo Ron Wood sound, ie Stones without Brenda at the reins. Lotta filler, even for a 9 song album, but the Stones-iest numbers here are A+.

ooo, I saw a copy of this, this very lunchtime.

And, in the spirit of this thread (specifically the early posts), this thread has obviously been revived because I saw it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpTczmWqcII

such a beautiful record

on this album, his grasp on vocal melody is really something

Some things are too good and they go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hytnbs1sVGg

What's his next-best record ?

All the others. =)

"Chinatown" from the Jack of Diamonds record is great,would totally fit on Wolf King

this is a wish and a prayer but would any ilxor out there have mp3s of this album??

if i could get them from you it you would be doing me a huge solid

thanks

oops sentence structure

I'd recommend soulseek

ysi?

tylerw came thru