Ciara - Promise

come enjoy the life
baby take a ride
i just wanna find
you ?

I'm kinda iffy on the Milian song, but the backing is good.

tracklist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32u7TCSNaXQ

It's very Janet isn't it? So sensual.

Or just Roger Troutman.

It's so brilliant that the video for this fucking ballad is a dancing video. Talk about playing to your strengths. Ciara or someone very close to her is a genius.

i think the fact that ciara trained as a dancer rather than a singer is so key to her music - her sense of rhythm is impeccable, even on a lush, sprawling ballad like 'promise'. basically she sings as if she's dancing, her phrasing seems choreographed!

very much agree with this. i love this girl so much!

the song is very 'rock the boat', isn't it? but bigger.

this song is simply astonishing.

album out in january now, i can't wait.

yeah it explains why her vocals are so weak. i dont have a total problem with that though - she seems to know how to play to her strengths, and its hard to find fault with her singles.

(well that's how I do)

And I disagree that the actual tune doesn't have any personality... it's dripping with it! What do you mean?

http://www.autorevue.cz/Obrazky/2006/01leden/mondeo/Ext%20si%201.jpg

or a spanish mountain.

I haven't heard this track either. But it's ok I don't think the Lex knows who I am.

here is the video! with some excellent dancing & tracksuits. obv i do not mind if anyone hasn't heard it yet but the resounding silence which has greeted this thread since it was started is a little saddening esp given the kind of thing which gets 100+ answers in 10 minutes hereabouts.

def pronounced see-air-uh i thought, which isn't how one normally pronounces it but the girl knows best.

Video is teh hawt for sure.

Is it actually released yet, in physical vinyl goodness?

I'm not sure if it signifies anything, but I'm loving it. And they're all very "futuristic"/Timbaland(esque) slow jams. I can listen to this stuff for a good long time. And Lex I haven't been talking about "Promise" because I've been too busy listening to it on repeat.

Spoken interludes in R&B have always been a real favorite of mine:
"I mean everything that I say
From the bottom of my heart
I would never, ever, ever hurt you
I open my heart"

I mean it's no "I Miss You" by Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes spoken interlude, but it'll do for me.

And I disagree that the actual tune doesn't have any personality... it's dripping with it! What do you mean?

-- The Brainwasher (teignmout...), November 13th, 2006.

this is what i like to hear!!!

I would never, ever, ever hurt you

the extra 'ever' is just amazing!

I open my heart

and then the massive bridge after that!

here is the sandbox thread on it.

'like a boy' is - i think and hope - the next single.

dip it polow.

the bass on 'bang it up' is incredible, it's about as majestic as 'what you know' but instead of TI swaggering over the top you've got Miss C skittering playfully around at top speed. DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, BOY, BE ABOUT IT, IF U GOT IT WE CAN SEE ABOUT IT, SHORTY WHAT'S UP?

* 2004: "Fallen (Zone 4 Remix) also known as (Polow Da Don Mix)" by Mya (featuring Chingy)
* 2005: "Party Starter" by Will Smith
* 2005: "Pimpin' All Over The World" by Ludacris (featuring Bobby Valentino)
* 2005: "Break a N***a Off" by Gangsta Boo, Lil' Fate & Rich Boy
* 2005: "DJ Play a Love Song" by Jamie Foxx (featuring Twista)
* 2005: "Luxurious Remix" by Gwen Stefani, Ludacris
* 2005: "Flirt" (Bonus) by Pussycat Dolls
* 2006: "Buttons" by Pussycat Dolls (featuring Snoop Dogg)
* 2006: "Baby Bend Over" by Field Mob
* 2006: "London Bridge" by Fergie
* 2006: "Glamorous" by Fergie (featuring Ludacris)
* 2006: "Throw Some D's" by Rich Boy (featuring Polow Da Don)
* 2006: "Blindfold Me" by Kelis (featuring Nas)
* 2006: "Runaway Love" by Ludacris (featuring Mary J. Blige)
* 2006: "Promise" by Ciara
* 2006: "Bang It Up" by Ciara
* 2006: "Get Up Rmx" by Ciara
* 2006: "Crying Out For Me" by Mario (singer)
* 2006: "Where Did He Go" by Keri Hilson
* 2006: "Shake It" by Mya
* 2006: "Tears" by Lil Fizz (featuring Bobby Valentino)

a whole load of some of my favourite songs there. i'm not even sure i can identify a particular production trademark - he's applying himself to a whole lot of styles and most of the time pulling them off.

Field Mob - "At The Park"
Bubba Sparxxx f/ Pastor Troy, Rich Boy & Sean Paul of The Youngbloodz - "Back In The Mudd (Zone 4 Remix)"
Tru Life f/ Tara Lynn - "This Is The Life"
Juvenile f/ UTP - "First Piece"
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Is the "Throw Some D's" remix he talks about out yet? With Jim Jones, Andre 3000, and The Game... crazy.

DAMN Ciara turned it out on the BET Awards last night.

yeah, the old Cassie really is something.

Promise Pt. 2?:

Ciara to the stage
Ciara to the stage
Ciara to the stage
I'M CUUUUMMMMINNNNNNNNN!!

It's sad that basically all the demos from Fantasy Ride leaked and "Go Girl" flopped so she's been forced to rexord a brand new album now, because this tune, "Echo," "Work," "Supernatural", etc. would've made an excellent album and now they'll probably never get released :(

oh ffs she deserves better than to be r&b's joe lean & the jing jang jongs

I don't know what that means but okay.

'promise' is the best song ever. I have to give a listen to more of this new stuff.

track w/t pain on her myspace didn't do much for me, tho.

^^ ditto ditto ditto

echo is awesome

so is go girl, which is bound to go down as an underrated t-pain jam

not even i care for 'go girl' that much.

'echo' on the other hand...flows so hard. my favourite bit is in the second verse - "speakers thumpin' hard to that 2pac and 50 track, they runnin' to the corner yellin' who dat, who dat" and then suddenly that glorious shift upwards for a second w/the backing vox, "run it back!"

i would love to hear what logic there could possibly have been behind releasing 'go girl' as the lead single instead of 'high price', 'work' or 'echo', cuz i have no fucking idea

haven't heard the others but "High Price" was pretty annoying.

i'm not denying it's a bit of a love/hate proposition but it's got a hell of a lot more presence than 'go girl'

Yeah, I have a real soft spot for CiCi, but "Go Girl" was one of the more DOA singles of the year. "Explode" is extra nice. I'd take an album of variations on this theme to be honest. To be honest both of Beyonce's singles seemed just as uneventful on first listen as "Go Girl" but I guess that wasn't the case. Plus, wasn't CiCi going for a the same sort of double album split personality thing? Her career seems way too young and potential-filled to be taking a significant downturn so early, but it's hard to know what will happen in today's major label landscape.

she's been forced to rexord a brand new album now, because this tune, "Echo," "Work," "Supernatural", etc. would've made an excellent album and now they'll probably never get released

has there been any actual indication that this is what's happening? was there a statement to this effect or is it just a hunch due to the delayed release? i mean, a retooling certainly, but Echo and High Price are too strong to just be left by the wayside...no? rerecording an entire album seems a bit drastic.

i would love to hear what logic there could possibly have been behind releasing 'go girl' as the lead single instead of 'high price', 'work' or 'echo', cuz i have no fucking idea

― lex pretend, Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Year Song Chart positions Album
U.S. Hot 100 U.S. R&B U.S. Pop
2006 "U and Dat" (E-40 feat. T-Pain & Kandi Girl) 9 8 17 My Ghetto Report Card
2007 "I'm a Flirt (Remix)" (R. Kelly feat. T.I. & T-Pain) 10 2 25 Double Up
"Outta My System" (Bow Wow feat. T-Pain) 22 12 33 The Price of Fame
"Shawty" (Plies feat. T-Pain) 8 2 27 The Real Testament
"Baby Don't Go" (Fabolous feat. T-Pain) 23 23 32 From Nothin' to Somethin'
"Cyclone" (Baby Bash feat. T-Pain) 7 11 7 Cyclone
"I'm So Hood" (DJ Khaled feat. Rick Ross, Trick Daddy, Plies & T-Pain) 19 9 33 We the Best
"Kiss Kiss" (Chris Brown feat. T-Pain) 1 2 3 Exclusive
"Good Life" (Kanye West feat. T-Pain) 4 3 18 Graduation
"Low" (Flo Rida feat. T-Pain) 1 9 1 Mail on Sunday
"Who the Fuck Is That?" (Dolla feat. T-Pain & Tay Dizm) 82 42 66 A Dolla and a Dream
2008 "Shawty Get Loose" (Lil Mama feat. Chris Brown & T-Pain) 10 43 15 VYP (Voice of the Young People)
"The Boss" (Rick Ross feat. T-Pain) 9 5 53 Trilla
"She Got It" (2 Pistols feat. T-Pain & Tay Dizm) 24 9 44 Death Before Dishonor
"I Can't Wait" (Akon feat. T-Pain) 102 — - Konvicted
"Cash Flow" (Ace Hood feat. T-Pain & Rick Ross) 120 55 — Gutta
"Got Money" (Lil Wayne feat. T-Pain) 10 7 17

has there been any actual indication that this is what's happening? was there a statement to this effect or is it just a hunch due to the delayed release? i mean, a retooling certainly, but Echo and High Price are too strong to just be left by the wayside...no? rerecording an entire album seems a bit drastic.

― the other Alex in MTL, in fact (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 22:05 (50 minutes ago)

Yeah, the album has been pushed back to Spring '09 and she's still in the studio - working with Bloodshy & Avant, Dream & Tricky, Justin Timberlake, Danja, etc.

ok so 'i'm on' is fucking JACKING and i can't get enough

"i don't need nobody else, i can do damage by myself - walk in the club, everybody like damn, she can do damage by herself"

'walk on the wall' is pretty banging also - love that there are barely any token gestures to notions of songcraft, these are straight-up dance tracks pure & simple

Yeah, the album has been pushed back to Spring '09 and she's still in the studio - working with Bloodshy & Avant, Dream & Tricky, Justin Timberlake, Danja, etc.

add missy and jeezy to that. she discusses the album a minute in to this interview.

can't even tell you how in love w/ her i am since i found out she's a hawks fan.

Just downloaded all the leaked tracks. 'Work' is fucking brilliant.

Yes.

Nah.

Yeah!

ok so i think "never ever" is kind of tremendous - where do we stand on, with distance, on this failed single?

for the first time in like 18 months or something i can definitively say that young jeezy's presence on this song is not only unnecessary but detrimental

yeah i think it's pretty great personally...for all I know Polow bit that melody from another software preset but it's still gorgeous. feels kinda soon to call it failed but it certainly isn't catching on very fast.

idk dude it's been out for a month and it's not even got into the rap/r&b top 50

btw i once declared "whatever you like" a failure so you know...

anyway the song, i think it's a nice kid brother to "promise" - not as mind-numbing obv but it's got that weightlessness and drama for sure

so in other words...kinda soon to call it failed but it certainly isn't catching on very fast.

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yeah..."Promise" is one of my favorite songs of the past few years, and I was never really too into most of Ciara's uptempo singles to begin with, so I have no problem with her going back to the well for more songs like that.

how many leaks of this do i have to download before i get all the fucking tracks

ha this is the official single dude

she might as well change the album's name to THIS IS FOR CLEARANCE USE ONLY and package it w/ no packaging like that one system of a down album

oh yeah i've heard this before actually...must have been on the radio? dope song no doubt, and yeah the jeezy collab is totally unnecessary. i assume you guys have heard "exclusive", the 'echo' reworking which suffers the same superfluous-jeezy-verse fate as this.

is it the same song w/ a jeezy verse or did they switch up the beat or something

uhh i only heard it once, but iirc it's essentially the same song. it's on the r&b kings part 2, if you've got that

*listening* no it's the same beat and everything

i guess id imagine that jeezy would be alright on that song since the thing amounts to shit talking, he's kind of way out of his league on a sad breakup song

lol i was listening to it right now and i was reading something and totally missed the jeezy verse. it's that pointless

yeah... beats a verse from yung joc i guess

needs to reunite w/ jazze and petey imo for a fun song - i think this overwrought project is weighing her down

'never ever' has grown on me loads though i think 'promise' is way offbase as a comparison, apart from the slower tempo they have so little in common - 'never ever' is far more conventional, there isn't much special about the arrangement...it's going for sweet and bruised rather than epic, rich and devotional. i really like jeezy on it! something about his gruff tones really complements the weird burst of triumphalism in that "let me see you two-step if you know he loves you" section. i really don't have a problem w/this track at all except as a lead single - though apparently in the UK they'll be going with something called 'magic', featuring justin timberlake - yes you heard right there is at least one song from the album which they've managed to keep under wraps

http://i42.tinypic.com/23r31c5.gif

aww.

btw is there an agreed-upon tracklist for fantasy ride yet?

nope

a bunch of new stuff leaked recently:

Rattla
Turntables (w/ Chris Brown) - BANGERRRRR could've been big but given what happened with Chris it's DOA
I'm A G

someone must really hate Ciara, I swear this is the most leaked project ever

cassie has leaked like four albums

they should just have akon or something record chris' vocals

maybe get an asher roth guest verse, everything will be gravy

lol

lol

i need to find these tracks

'rattla' is 'oh' redux but still excellent - "i know you ride the beat when you recline that seat"...

i think Ciara's had so many leaks in part because her release date has been 'a few weeks away' for like 6 months straight, so some/most of them might be deliberate, whereas Cassie has never gotten close to actually dropping her album.

finally hearing the whole album... too bad it never dropped, would've been top 15 of the year for sure and "echo" would've been a top 10 single. even "oh" jr "rattla" works and it doesn't even have a guest verse, love the ballads too esp the light as a cloud one w/ dream. even the 'generic' ones like "click/flash" and a few of the ballads somehow transcend their on paper trappings. listening back has confirmed for me that "high price" was the most ridiculous song of last year, obv because of the insane operatic singing, of course punctuated by "SOFTER THAN A MCDONALD'S HAMBURGER BUN" which like.... how she managed to sing that in that voice w/ a straight face is truly and forever beyond me

yeah that song is o_O in a bad way for me, i don't know how people ever got behind that as a potential single. it's funny how you're talking about the album in the past tense already like it's never going to come out, though.

ummmmm.... here's her new single with Justin Timberlake:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/55897746bdcafa0d/

pullin out all the stops huh

seriously why don't they just film a video for 'echo' or 'high price' or 'work' and be done with it? i actually like 'love and sex and magic' a lot but it sounds like justin timberlake ft. ciara, not the other way round.

the album is definitely "definitely" coming out in april btw, i talked to ciara last week about it.

name dropperrrrrrr

lex did you show her any of the flop.gif's and make her cry?

its use here is masterful

anybody got an mp3rip of the mix or just this remix?

oh hah the name is in the tracklisting. the cory bold remix.

mix: http://www.mediafire.com/?psyx7r47k8boj34

remix: http://www.mediafire.com/?yhfjafdoob4b7oi

thanks ty!

my friend pointed out to me that the song samples this bit from breakin', and the music video is pretty much a direct homage to this scene too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVrWDPi12zE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTYkMDwvqZs

(also referenced in "Get Up")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTYkMDwvqZs

most overt r&b vid homage to that scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEyNlAIQ4v0