Forgotten 90's alternative rock masterpieces WANTED

Long, sprawling alt-prog masterpiece that takes years to chew through.

I've already done a Google search for 'ilx six by seven' and found no single thread that summed up what I wanted to do here. :-(

Anyway, c'mon now, I'll bet you know a few answers to my question!

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ALT-PROG MASTERPIECE = I BUY

Which took five seconds to find.

Mansun mixed with Foetus = OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG, so bear in mind that you've built this one up a bit. Ideally it should be music that knows not when to stop, and aims to be the grandest, coolest, most innovative listening experience KNOWN TO MAN.

free downloads - http://www.cardiacs.com/downloads/

Plus, one more shout for Ultrasound. Not crucial but it might float your boat.

The final track on that Ultrasound album is FORTY MINUTES LONG

When I planned my perfect album as a 16 year-old, I promised myself that it would have a 30-minute closer. But FORTY?! Based upon that and the album-cover ALONE I am buying that album.

I repeat: music that knows not when to stop, but seeks perfection. :-)

OK, now I have a 2-album shopping-list. But where to find them? HMV, you're having a laugh...

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Scrawl--Nature Film
Can't go wrong here. A great cover of PIL's Public Image, and excellent originals like "Charles." I got a copy on amazon.com used for one cent.

Also check out Girls Against Boys - Venus Luxure No 1 Baby
and of course anything by Redd Kross, The Youngs Gods, Screaming Trees , Unwound, Blonde Redhead etc.

and Louis do you never answer your emails at that hotmail address?

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and

overlooked 90's groups
most important/influential albums of 90's (name 5)
What are some obscure alternative hits from the early 90's?
Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

Search function = fuxxored, but, the Beta Band?

I think Louis would love to visit me and listen to my cds and lps.

Oh, and everything, I may just do that. :-)

*starts researching ur recommendations up Allmusic*

Nada Surf were one of the prototypical 90s one hit wonder bands, with Popular. They're currently one of the 2 or 3 best power pop bands in the world. Last year's The Weight Is A Gift is an instant classic. I don't see anybody writing catchier songs than them right now.

how about Mexican Pets? The Voice of Trucker Youth, which is all you need, is like Pixiesaur Jr. tunes and a dual-guitar sound either band would kill for. kicks as much ass as i remember.

Further? talk about a band that could be ridiculously great. Sometimes Chimes, man. and the Grimes Golden EP. those CDs sum up everything i care to remember about '90s alt rock.

into the '00s, it's all about Ooberman for me. the JP version of Hey Petrunko, or anywhere else you'll find "Summer Nights in June." this is indie-prog done right. fuck yeah.

I sense that Amazon may well be my friend in this forthcoming quest, actually.

My other perrenial entries on lists like these are The Nightblooms' 24 Days At Catastrofe Cafe and (sorry Jim from Australia) Magic Dirt's Friends In Danger.

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I just reacqainted myself today with something I listened to almost continuously in 1992, The Beautiful's Storybook. Jane's Addiction-isms aside, it's a great (and great sounding) rock record that's totally rotten and fucked up at its core.

are you Zayeda Alvarez?

Before Sarah Harmer became Sarah Harmer, she was in Weeping Tile (terrible name), whose second album Cold Snap got dropped down a sidewalk grate by Atlantic's weird little "alternative" outpost, TAG Recordings. At the time, it was the pure pop album I wanted the Breeders to make after Last Splash. Harmer's lyrics were impressionistic and alien-obsessed and the music, while unremarkably guitar-poppy, had some great hooks. Her voice was in excellent form, too.

Nobody on earth liked New Jersey's Shirk Circus but me (and I have several dozen shows' worth of spartan attendance to back that up), but their Bar/None debut, Words to Say owned my life for about three years. I even dropped out of college for a year to tour with them. Anyway, I still think this is a fine album; Josh Silverman was a sterling songwriter and guitar player, and if they weren't exactly on the Husker Du level as a scrappy power trio, it's got some beautiful songs. I only wish Ray Ketchem's soundboard-mix production job had been carried over to their flabby and overproduced second disc.

All of these albums can probably be had for a quarter apiece at any discerning indie record shop nowadays.

Also, when Joe Christmas broke up, lead singer Zachary Gresham formed Summer Hymns, who achieved some notoriety with their debut, Voice Brother and Sister (it even made it onto Pitchfork's year-end top 20 in 1999), but seem to have been almost completely forgotten now.

it was OK, but the EP they released on Epitaph a year or two later was awesome.

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Sammy had another record besides Great Neck? What's it called? Is it good?

They also had a few singles, and some of the b-sides are worth tracking down, esp. a song called "Cafeteria Hawker."

Jesse Hartman re-did a few Sammy tracks on a Laptop single (that came out in Norway, I think, some years ago) that's kind of interesting.

Unrest, Perfect Teeth
Blue Mountain, Dog Days
Dianogah, As Seen from Above (someone really needs to reissue this one)
Trumans Water, Spasm Smash XXXOXOX Ox and Ass

and someone already said Lotion, but I'm going to second that. all three of their albums are pretty great.

Would the Jesus Lizard be obscure enought to fit here? If so, Liar is an absolute must.

In terms of the Wildhearts, Louis, I would go fro Fishing For Luckies, if available, as it indulges in all their proggiest tendencies.

cheers everyone, and keep it going! this is truly a treasure-trove, and all from my favourite musical decade ever! (yep, the 90's PWN) (but this thread isn't one of those stupid decade debates you probably grew tired of in 2001, so enough)

and remember, the more ridiculously ambitious, the better...

Also, I don't think anyone's mentioned Pony Express Record from Shudder to Think. OMG OMG!

Dog Faced Hermans were the best live band I've ever seen, and their last couple of records--Those Deep Buds, the one pictured above, and the live Bump & Swing--are thoroughly wonderful. The earlier ones ain't bad either. (I wrote the liner notes for the Loveletter reissue of Humans Fly/Everyday Time Bomb.)

Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 I've been known to go on about at length before--don't know if more than six people bought their final album (with the worst-title-ever Bob Dinners and Larry Noodles Present Tubby Turdner's Celebrity Avalanche), but I think it's their best record, which is saying something.

Both of the Nightblooms' albums are great, but they're so different people have occasionally asked if they were by the same Nightblooms. (They are.)

The Chills' Submarine Bells is indeed lovely; I probably like Brave Words even better. Just went to Amazon to see if I could sadly report that the latter was selling for 20 cents, and discovered that used copies start at $74.49 and go up to $105.00. HOLLY HECK.

Pretty Mighty Mighty - Ugly

OMG are you joking? I know I've got it around here somewhere, but I have no idea where it is.

Bison - Space Evader

We sounded somewhat like Sugar and Jawbox with a hint of Rush thrown in for good measure.

I was surprised to find some French website offering the record to download. I'm pretty sure no one has ever purchased it intentionally.

search everything by:

This Is The Strapping Fieldhands Thread Cuz I'm Drinking Beers And Feeling Nostalgic

and (almost) everything on:

Siltbreeze Records: Search! Destroy!

I briefly got excited cos I've got that CD and don't really care for it much. But it's still in print! WTF Amazon sellers.

http://www.101cd.com/detail.aspx?productid=1578782

Also: Comet Chandelier Musings

PMM's Ugly held up well on replay last night. though these days i'm hearing it less as Dambuilders meets Heavy Vegetable and more like Simon House sits in on Isn't Anything.

one more to add: Dark Star - Twenty Twenty Sound. if you like Mansun and Six by Seven, Scourage, this can't miss. one of the post-Levitation spin-off bands. they have a unique sound. the missing link between Porcupine Tree and Primal Scream.

Yeah, that was good. You'd figure David Baker would have more of a career as a producer.

So, yeah, I know they have the worst name in the history of music, but give them a listen.

There's a whole bunch of stuff I'd love to recommend here but I don't think it's quite in the mood the threadstarter was hoping for and there'd only be a lot of "but that's not forgotten" so I'll go off and think a bit harder about it first.

That's why I haven't contributed further, since the "duh, of course I've heard of the Beta Band" comments upthread. I don't fucking know what bands have been heard of and what haven't by any one individual on ILX, and I'm not searching to find out. Threads like this have and may continue to prove useful to any number of people reading it, not just Louis, and in my head Six by Seven and The Beta Band inhabit the same sort of space so I thought they were worth a mention.

Sorry for being so fucking obvious.

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or are those too pedestrian for youse?

Lush - Split
Pretty ambitious post Cocteaus/MBV shoegaze prog, with short sharp pop songs in there too.

Also if you don't know Bardo Pond then you should.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Jesus. What an awful record.

also the swirlies wrote a rock opera about how much they hated a friend of mine because she gave them a bad review once.

What is the awful lot of shite, btw?

oh, wow. seconded, thirded, fourthed, etc.

'hammock style' is an absolutely amazing, flawless album. so massive, so inventive, so hard, so soft...it's pretty much everything an album should be.

I managed to see them only once. and then they were gone.

'scuse me, I have something in my eye...*sniff*

The Glands - Double Thriller

and although it's from early 2000, technically making it ineligible:

The Glands - The Glands

THis is one of the best alternative rock albums of the last ten years. You cannot go wrong with this, or the debut. I still don't understand why Glands-mania never swept the world.

man, this record!! prob in my all-time top 20... like the clientele only catchier tunes and more varied arrangements. SERIOUS KILLER POP interspersed with ECHO-SOAKED AMBIENT PRE-POP INSTRUMENTALS! 2 songs (out of 20) I could do without ("her name i don't remember", the one that starts "you left the keys blah blah"), but the rest are gorgeous and perfect and that's a pretty good deal there

are we just talking albums here?

the velocette album on wiiija was universally ignored and is actually really good. their b-sides were amazing too - esp 'slow dancing angels' and the entire 'spoiled children' single..

Space Needle - The Moray Eels Eats The Space Needle

Hetch Hetchy: Classic Or Dud?

(although that thread kinda sucks cuz i was the only one who had heard the albums)

The Official Sugar Plant Thread

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And while I want to mention things like Unrest's Imperial and Bedhead's What Fun Life Was, I don't think those are exactly "forgotten" records. Still in print, still much loved and mentioned.

These are some records, though, that seem to have ceased. While most of 'em were once associated with some kind of trend or another, the bands eventually crapped out or lost their followings, and their scenes became unfashionable:

Pain Teens - Born In Blood (1990)
Psychedelic goth industrial whatever. Via Texas, so there's a whole lot more rock guitar than you'd think - not that far, really, from the Butthole Surfers, but way more sultry. The early stuff was too "avant" for us beer-swilling types, and after this they went downhill FAST, but Born In Blood still sounds classic after all these years.

Claw Hammer - Claw Hammer (1990)
Excellent hard rock/prog with blues and punk roots. Technical, but sweaty, loose and agressive enough to keep things manly. The band went on to some degree of popularity (I think...), but they never really topped the debut. Available everywhere for no money at all. So desperately uncool that even your uncool friends will look at you funny when you play it.

The Mike Gunn - Hemp for Victory (1991 ???)
A totally lost record from a band named for a mythically lost guy. Tom Carter went on to Charalambides, and everyone goes nuts for them, but where is the love for The Mike Gunn? Thick, evil, lo-fi indie sludgemetal like they used to make back then. Sabbath and Green River run through the Butthole discombobulator. "Produced" by Pain Teens guy Scott Ayres. Sounds like it was recorded with cardboard microphones onto tape made of dry glue. Rad.

Steel Pole Bath Tub - Tulip (1991)
Just a great, noisy ROCK punk record from a band that never really got their due. Best thing they ever did - metal edges, punk attack, noise interludes, a million weird ideas and some damn catchy tunes. Not forgotten, maybe, but not often enough remembered, either.

Terminal Cheesecake - Angels In Pigtails (1994)
Yet another record that I'm gonna describe by invoking the Butthole Surfers (sigh for lazy). Does it sound like them? Not really, but it's thick, gravylike, psychedelic goo music, so what the fuck, you know? Made by English people this time, so it kinda sucks, but kinda rules, too. Awesome, dubby basslines, buried drums and holler, colossal rivers of feedback.

Red Red Meat - Red Red Meat (1994)
Maybe I shouldn't mention this, but even though they went on to be all famous and "post-rock" and shit, nobody seems to remember how great and how immediate this debut was. It's got all the sexy slur and twang of the later stuff, but it's got TUNES, too. And jams! A measure of vaguely conscious energy! Lags a bit towards the end, but it's a long record, and there are at least 8 fantastic songs here. For my money, it's even better than Jimmywine Majestic.

Cheater Slicks - Whiskey (1995)
Same category as Red Red meat, above. Though they got kinda safe and therefore dull as they rode along, this early recording is just amazingly misanthropic. Shambling drunk and ugly as hell, but crackling with hate and electric juices. The American Country Teasers.

A.R. Kane - 69 (1988)
Yeah, okay, it came out in '88, but I don't care. This is one of the greatest records ever made, and no one seems to know it. Sooooo fucking lush and wild and totally psychic. Shoegaze noise soul? Fuck, yes.

Haven't listened to it much yet, but so far it seems to be a fairly awesome display of guitar/drum interplay, with 9and I'll give them this) the greatest song-titles EVER SEEN BY MORTAL MAN. Can 'Dick Suffers Is Furious With You' be beaten? Probably not...

Yet more awesome leads, don't know where to start really (probably with the massive Cardiacs/assorted others consignment everything1967 is sending) :-) but the juicier ones will I promise be followed up!

I don't JUST like prog, btw, but it helps!

Oh, and that '35 minute noise freakout' at the end of Everything Picture? It's only 15 minutes long, then there's a GAP full of SILENCE :-(

the 90's = indescribably awesome

Indeed! It drags in places, but that opener with the massive horn charts is a true lost masterpiece. As fine a mix of loud and horns as the Saints' Eternally Yours.

Also, Karl Hendricks played in some versions of Thee Speaking Canaries, IIRC.

I do want to say I bought the Lusk album yesterday because of this thread. Thank you.

I found a copy of Almaron by the Mike Gunn recently. Sounded nothing like what I expected, given that I was anticipating some proto-Charalambides lamina thing. I was more switched on by some other September Gurls records I found at the same time, by the Linus Pauling Quartet (s/t) and Primordial Undermind. Both Houston bands?? The Linus Pauling thing is heavy!! T'internet tells me they also have a record called 'Ashes in the Bong of God'. Of course. Definitely check the self-titled one though.

LPQ are so hit-or-miss. often within the same track. they walk that fine sublime/ridiculous line. i think i prefer Dunlavy. also remember the Project Grimm stuff being pretty good.

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(oh, and whipping boy's heartworm seconded, yes)

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This is the thread where we reminisce over not particularly good Evening Session bands from the late 90s

Louis, I think you would enjoy those threads.

Carry on...

scott, did you ever hear donkey, the band some of them formed after? i saw them live once, and have a 7 inch i bought at the show somewhere....they were pretty cool too.

Right, Lusk. I can't go any longer without talking about their album again. It's absolutely incredible.

...AND...

...was responsible for my new WORST REVIEW OF EVER nomination. Congrats, Pitchfork!

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/19548/Lusk_Free_Mars

2) good to see some love for ganger here. my mate played bass (or was it guitar? can't actually remember) with them very briefly towards the end of their natural lifespan. of course: aereogramme are better.

3) THE GREATEST FORGOTTEN 90s BAND OF THEM ALL:

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yes kids, it's earl brutus. and, having finally tracked down a mint CD copy of "your majesty we are here", i'm beginning to think they might actually be the GREATEST BAND OF THEM ALL. EVER.

Nonsense! Their second album (of two!) is my favourite record ever made.

I remember seeing Macrocosmica a few times as well (Brendan O'Hare's other band), and them being great, but that was a good few years ago and I haven't given them a second thought until now, so I may be way off the mark with this.

there's meant to be a pic of earl brutus there but perhaps someone got arsey about the bandwidth theft. sorry. but yes: shin-yu was said chap's name; and yes, although he was officially credited as a guitarist, his basic role seemed to be to drink beer and occasionally shout/swear at the audience in japanese.

heresy! I do like aereogramme, but they've never caressed my very soul the way ganger did.

marcrocosmica were indeed excellent. aren't they still going though? they released an album relatively recently.

Shin Yu was 'out brutused' at Reading Festival when the Brutus were on uberdrive.A care in the community/assertive outreach type chap stood on stage and played drinking Kestrel whilst slowly pissing his grey Bowie slacks.

I remember the old enough to know worse Brutus guys trashing their attempt at a backdrop and PISS/OFF sign - playing their 12 noon opener clearly fucked up.
It was majestic .

They will return.Scum Rock

I've had ten pints.

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warms me old cynical heart : )

Not only do I know it, I have it, and when it came out so did a lot of people I know. I also know there's more than a few ARKane fans on here (such as RickyT for eg).

This thread's a bit depressing, some of the bands were so talked about at the time by everyone... and then I dont know what happened, indie got stained with idiocy somewhere along the line and everyone disowned it as shite and now everyone says things like "who remembers Lush" and "remember the Chills? Cant get that album anywhere" and my brain is going ARGH SURELY I AM NOT THAT OLD :(

Trailer Bride's "Whine De Lune" never got the national following it deserved, tho' G. Marcus gave them a lot of love.

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Probably the best two albums of the 90s.

And just about everything else they did that decade.

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Noooooooooooooo! That second album is great.

"i like me some elvis," i said, almost as drunkenly. "but he wasn't a patch on earl brutus." we chatted for a bit and this old dude promised me he'd try to hear some :)

Oh, and Skeleton Key was a favorite too. Neat packaging got them a Grammy, but no one buys albums on the strength of a packaging award.

Are Superchunk, Superdrag or Possum Dixon forgotten enough?

all good.

not a masterpiece, but sounds awfully good to me. do not know anything about them, though.

And while I bring up Crypt records from that time, it's hard not take a breath without remembering all the great Estrus records too - geez, the Mono Men could put on a show! Pick up Wrecker! and Sin and Tonic for good backyard party music, Scourge!

Another one I thought would have been a 'given' would be Drive Like Jehu's 1994 entry 'Yank Crime' - I'm listening to it now and for a record mixed and engineered by the drummer of the band, I'd have to say, I've never heard such great guitar presentation in all of the '90s ...

albums bought, received and listened to since start of thread: ultrasound 'everything picture', lusk 'free mars', hum 'downward is heavenward', quickspace 'precious falling', and six by seven 'the things we make', with dark star 'twenty twenty sound', echoboy 'volume one', amp 'stenorette', and the wildhearts 'fishing for luckies' in the post, along with about 10 CDs everything1967 has sent all the way from canada. :-)

i wonder if we could categorise all the suggestions given so far?

I'm gonna do a preliminary Pitchfork on my purchases, thusly:

Ultrasound, Everything Picture 9.7
Lusk, Free Mars 9.4
The Wildhearts, Fishing For Luckies 9.2
Six By Seven, The Things We Make 8.7
Quickspace, Precious Falling 8.4
Hum, Downward Is Heavenward, 8.3
Amp, Stenorette 8.0

with Echoboy - Volume One and Dark Star - Twenty Twenty Sound yet to be bought/decided upon.

seriously, 'Do The Channel Bop' might have the greatest two-part chorus ever heard. plus, the album gets MUCHOS crucial bonus epic points!

I got Vol. One today, but can't obviously make a call yet. 'Kit And Holly' definitely stands out already, however.

(Soul Searching On The Planet Earth (Different Kind Of Love), Schitzophonic, Sick Of Drugs and Sky Babies are also amazing, btw)

(and they all begin with the letter S)

really? go on ...

"giraffe" is excellent but TBH i've always preferred the much-maligned and unfairly overlooked "volume 2".

This thread, it is fair to say, has actually managed to change my music taste a little.

(Hey, you asked for it... I was willing to let the whole thing go.)

Anything by Guided By Voices!

Just plain smart well-crafted pop tunes, right?

Superdrag

Both their debut "Regretfully Yours" from '96 and their final "Last Call for Vitriol" (their masterpiece) from '02. The 1-2 rock punch of "I Can't Wait" and "The Staggering Genius" on Vitriol is incredible.

Also: Gigolo Aunts' "Flippin' Out" and "Minor Chords and Major Themes"

Oh, it's a joke. Har-

Cobra Verde - Viva La Muerte & Egomania (Love Songs)

I like every song on both of these records. There is some decent stuff on some of their other records, but it wasn't quite the same.

Engine Kid - Angel Wings

I think in hindsight these guys were a bit in front of the wave. They got slogged off as some Slint wannabees, which is there somewhat, but there is also some mathy near metal in their sound. It is heavy, moody and kind of catchy at points. I think it holds up really well.

I don't know if I'd have Scourage down as a Cardiacs type on the whole

lol

there's a lot of stuff on this thread that i still need to get hold of

Hey, I aintn't never been right on ILX before and I wasn't about to start then. You were being all proggy-but-contemplative/postrock then (as far as I'd noticed, which is not generally very far) and I thought brash pronking+bending might not be yr bag.

Tell me you did check out the Monsoon Bassoon though and that Best Of Badluck 97 is the best thing ever, right? Apart from maybe all the other best things ever on that there album.

(I am impressed by your devotion to all things 90s, and only a little tempted to talk up the shit I bought then and will never be able to sell while sticking it on Amazon Marketplace and hoping...)

Cake's 1997 cover version of "I Will Survive": we fucking with this song or not?

Tell me you did check out the Monsoon Bassoon though

LOL!!! Check out the time and date of the following post:

if there's one song i wish more people had heard, that song is "commando"

-- Just got offed, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:06 (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

As long as it's artistically uncompromising, unexpected, and thrilling, I'll probably give it love.

I'd like to recommend 'The Magic City ' by Helium as a lost gem from 1995.

The most orphaned thread I ever did start on ILX: The band: Bicycle. The album: Bicycle. Not quite a masterpiece but an enjoyable and totally overlooked album...

Also, the Moonbabies' first record, June and Novas as well as the first (I think self-titled) album by Azure Ray - both very dreamy, hushed, pretty albums. Moonbabies have a few rockout moments. I never heard any of the stuff they did later but I gather it went for more of a coffee shop vibe?

In a similar vein (with more drama and mood swings, and atonal warbling) there's always Jeremy Enigk (Sunny Day Real Estate)'s solo joint, Return of the Frog Queen.

The Glands' Double Thriller seconded - that is a fucking great CD, totally sublimates delay pedal flourishes into all the beauty and ache of sitting on a porch wondering where the hell your life is going.

Must comment any time somebody mentions The Glands. Possibly the most overlooked indie band ever. Double Thriller is great but the 2nd record is their masterpiece.

RE: The Glands - yes, buy them both and somebody get that Shapiro dude back in the studio.

For further discussion and insight: The Glands from Athens, GA

No Bugskull?

As long as it's artistically uncompromising, unexpected, and thrilling, I'll probably give it love.

-- Just got offed, Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

90s alternative rock 4 u

I wouldn't use the word "masterpiece," but I rediscovered the Latin Playboys recently and they make really nice background music (I don't mean that as an insult at all!).

Soooo yeah The Swirlies. 100%. They are written off as shoegaze but they do way more than any other shoegaze band has done. They just bend their guitar chords and stuff. Which I LOVE.

lol this was all things told my most successful thread

Engine Kid - Angel Wings

I think in hindsight these guys were a bit in front of the wave. They got slogged off as some Slint wannabees, which is there somewhat, but there is also some mathy near metal in their sound. It is heavy, moody and kind of catchy at points. I think it holds up really well.

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^^to increase possible interest in engine kid....the band was led by one Mr. Greg Anderson, of Southern Lord and Sunn O))) fame. great band.

acetone made some pretty good records in this vein

There's a story I often tell, about the time I was in NY and walked into an East Village eatery, where I was approached by a member of staff who asked if I was (who I am). Not realizing I was wearing a jacket with my name on it I was quite surprised, although I am sometimes recognized, usually for being someone else (used to be Elliot Sharp, when I was younger, now it's Jean Reno).

I was offered a drink on the house, so I asked why. I was told that "you sent me the best rejection letter I ever got." It was one of the guys from Sammy, who had sent me a demo of their 1st album. I apparently sent him a note thanking him for the advance copy of the new Pavement record.

You can't make this shit up.

scarce - deadsexy

esp. "all sideways"

BINGO TRAPPERS!!!!

also, Guv'ner.

For the most part, that Sammy/Pavement thing needs to be put to bed. Xpost. I think there's like one or two tracks on debut album that sound remotely pavementy, and the vocals are totally diff. (Lou Reed Preppie vs. Mark E. Preppie)

guvner is so tite

GUV'NER vs BUTTERGLORY

(used to be Elliot Sharp, when I was younger, now it's Jean Reno).

I read this as "Janet Reno" and was all 0_o

scarce - deadsexy

Never got round to hearing to Scarce. That was Chick Graning (sp?) from Anastasia Screamed, wasn't it?

yeah. they had a couple of really good songs. i liked 'hope' a lot

Woah Matt. Had no idea Greg Anderson was in Engine Kid. went to a friend's (plays in Sunn) house last week and he had a rec around that was Greg and the dude from Iceburn. Didn't hear it, but was kinda floored to even be reminded of Iceburn. Forgot abt them and Engine Kid too..

yep Engine Kid is the weird connection between Silkworm and Sunn O))) i think one of the dudes in silkworm's brothers was in engine kid...or something...

oh yeah...I should say:

ALL THE SILKWORM ALBUMS belong on this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjnsBQRPbpA

Found a copy of the Red Aunts' #1 Chicken for a buck a while back, and it's a very fine buzzsawfest.

Heres one: Milf. The album "Ha Ha Bus" is really great.

I read a pretty intriguing review (now forgotten) of that Milf album once and could never find a copy of it pre-internet; from time to time I take a look for a torrent, but searching for "milf" on the internet is, y'know...

Well when you add Ha Ha Bus! to the search in narrows things down a bit. Heres some obscure Milf stuff that I started with:

http://wilfullyobscure.blogspot.com/search?q=milf+

seriously guys...Remy Zero's first album dropped a year before OK Computer, and is so much better (and was kind of a defining influence on the best-album-of-the-90s standby)

forget the Coldplay-before-Coldplay hype, that came later...first album is Southern post-rock and thrilling shoegazer with all sorts of shifting sonic textures...

Probably not a masterpiece but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks40lw9fluw

Really enjoying that obscure Milf stuff Evan.. now I have a task ahead of me hearing all the Milf stuff + searching this and other 90's threads now that I'm on a fix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cklb7L0OA1c

still love this song

I'm really glad you like Milf! They really had something, and until now not many people I talk to care too much about it. They're sick of my own 90s fix for the past year I bet. They don't get my love for the moodier or lo-fi stuff I've been digging up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yrlw8FuJko

man, Scarce. hadn't thought about them in a while. "All Sideways," "Scorpion Tray"

think I only have a 7" not the album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCHNL3-FZOA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBE3VRc8mc

WTF where is "Brimful Of Asha" on youtube???!?!?!?

wtf also no Summercamp "Drawer"

I now recognize this as Jeff Buckley covering Oasis....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NgLV056kB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzibA7YP7VM

ok i'll stop now

I also heard that Dildo of the Insignificant Specks is producing two tracks on the new Glovebox 12-inch with two of the Hosebags singing background vocals and Don Roth playing...

Wheat - Medeiros

Hope and Adams is good too, John in Chicago. "Don't I hold you" in particular?

It is time to revive.
This thread, it is fair to say, has actually managed to change my music taste a little.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:40 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what can we do to change your internet usage?
― jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:55 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

get me a fucking gf?
― quod erat demonstrandum (Haberdager), Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:04 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A man that knows his own heart.

Reviving this simply because this appears to be the most discussion on ILM about the Seattle band Engine Kid, ie one of Greg Anderson's earliest bands before Sunn 0))) but quite good in their own right. Very sad news that's been going around about their drummer Chris Vandebrooke:

http://www.thestranger.com/music/2017/01/18/24804818/seattle-remembers-chris-vandebrooke

Some quick thoughts of my own, due to a very small connection with him:

http://nedraggett.tumblr.com/post/156043572182/seattle-remembers-chris-vandebrooke

Reading this thread title reminded me of this awesome song my friend and I loved in high school!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmtbsZIYSJs