Nick Cave's Grinderman

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What a surprise from Nick Cave.Who thought he could return to his angry past again after all those years and musical changes?
great track this "no pussy blues" is, sort of a no wave meets The Stooges guitar solo.
looking forward for the album.

― emekars (emekars), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I know next to nothing about Cave except his excellent taste in women and facial hair, but "No Pussy Blues" is badass.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

This won't download for me, but I am SO up for it. The Birthday Party records meant so much to me, I missed seeing 'em live by about six months, and Nick's solo stuff just isn't in the same zone. Be amazing to see him slip back into full-on BP mode. Are they going to tour?

― Soukesian (Soukesian), Thursday, 9 November 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

GODDAMN THAT SONG RUUUUUUUULZ!

I'm super pumped up right now!

fuck I want to throw a brick at someone!

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

fuck me, this is great! it's like when reviewers say shit like "flamethrower guitars" and shit yr all like tevs dood, but the guitar on this is so brutal, awesome!

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

que rad

― what does it mean “hockey sticks”? (teenagequiet), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

ok yeah the guitar just kicked in this is awesome AWESOME i tells ya

― what does it mean “hockey sticks”? (teenagequiet), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

This is indeed pretty great. I never thought I'd be looking forward to a Nick Cave album again...

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

i think abbatoir blues/lyre of orpheus might be my fav nick ever.

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

Is that a guitar, or is that Ellis's mic'd and distorted violin?

― zach mercer (suizen), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, who knows, i never thought of that....

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

Cause that first big salvo of distortion is nice, but it doesn't really sound like a traditional guitar, but much more like the kind of noisy solos you hear someone with an amplified viola or violin playing. Plus, if you keep listening, you can hear a more traditional guitar riff kick in later on.

It's rather low quality, but I'm not hearing any other overdubs at all--a four guys, four instruments kind of deal...so where's Ellis?

― zach mercer (suizen), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

thank christ nick cave has a sense of humor again. this song's great i really can't wait to hear more.

i think he's a bit old for "full-on BP mode," as much as it pains me to say, but this is good enough for now.

― adam j (In Place of Something Clever), Friday, 10 November 2006 07:47 (eighteen years ago)

It's great! But it's not like the Birthday Party at all. Are you all saying that just because he's growling a bit?

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 10 November 2006 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, if anything, I'm thinking more of the Tupelo era.

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 November 2006 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

four guys, four instruments kind of deal...so where's Ellis?

"Warren Ellis - Electric Bouzouki, Fendocastor, Viola, Violin, Acoustic Guitar, Hohner Guitaret, Backing Vocals"

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Friday, 10 November 2006 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

"I'm thinking more of the Tupelo era"
yeah.
nick cave vocals - tupelo area+scott walker style
the guitars - stooges
the drums - mellow birthday party (dead joe)
the bass - gallon drunk

― emekars (emekars), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

x-post:

well, you obviously missed that point.

― zach mercer (suizen), Saturday, 11 November 2006 04:19 (eighteen years ago)

uh YES PRESUMABLY HE IS MAKING THE NOISE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DISTORTED VIOLA, who else are you counting in your four guys that he doesn't fit?

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Saturday, 11 November 2006 05:44 (eighteen years ago)

Oh my god! Has he gone all passionate and rock and roll again with seething eyes??? I'm so up for this shit.

― A Chocolate Ball of Sweet Confectionary Fire (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 November 2006 08:04 (eighteen years ago)

First the solo show, now this - is this the longest time he's been Mick Harvey-less?

― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 11 November 2006 09:16 (eighteen years ago)

"We're planning to do an album in the new year. In fact, that reminds me, I must ring Nick to find out what's going on as he won't talk to anybody about it. I met Jim Sclavunos in New York recently, he'd been in the studio with Nick for about three weeks, working on this Grinderman record, so I asked him about plans for the new Bad Seeds record and he said Nick wouldn't talk about it. So, I'll give him a call to find out what's going on. The last Bad Seeds record was class."

This week Harvey's getting around to touring his solo album from a year or two ago, with Thomas Wydler and James Johnston in his band.

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Sunday, 12 November 2006 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting... Thanks!

― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 12 November 2006 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

OM--what on earth are you talking about? That's what I suggested in the first place, when everyone else was talking about guitar solos. Do you have a bouzouki on that track? No? Then what are you on about?

― zach mercer (suizen), Sunday, 12 November 2006 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

Fendocastor
Fendocastor
Fendocastor
Fendocastor

― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Sunday, 12 November 2006 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

I would really like so much to hear this, but when I go to the myspace page, it keeps breaking up while it's playing, "buffering" etc. March is a long way away. We really have to wait that long for the album?

― Pump up the pumpkin, pump up the pumpkin dance dance (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 November 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

...so where's Ellis?

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Monday, 13 November 2006 08:46 (eighteen years ago)

It's floating around, as of a few hours ago. It's not quite as intense as an album as "No Pussy Blues," but it certainly is louder and more agressive generally than Cave and co. have been the last few years. There's some nice ballads on here, actually. Based on my one listen so far I like it a lot.

― Jouster (Jouster), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:10 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a Grinderman in the pale moon, in the silver moonlight... yes, I'm the Grinderman 7 days a week in the pale moonlight, in the silver rain... yes, I'm the Grinderman anyway I can...

This is so much better than his last 3 or 4 albums. Who'd have thought it?

― David V (grammy), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

suprised no one has mentioned the Ramones yet

― toe-foo (toe-foo), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

I love track 11.

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:52 (eighteen years ago)

Er... so, what is a fendocastor then? Google it and you only get a couple of results, all about Warren Ellis in Grinderman and (fendocaster) "guy goes to a guitar shop, asks for a GibPaul FendoCaster. Man behind the counter: 'let me guess: you're a drummer' " type jokes.

It doesn't exist, is that it?

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

comparing the rest of the album to the goodies of "no pussy blues" is dissapointing
it's much quieter, and less pointy and accurate than that song.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

What was the point then of getting rid of the Bad Seeds?

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

he didnt get rid of them.
it's a "side project" of sorts.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I know I know. I meant "temporarily dispense with"

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

well, it is kinda different in style and sound (though some of the songs themselvs are cave's regular stuff), and sometimes it has more "anger" on it.i'm not in nick cave's head, but the bad seeds were repeating themselvs more or less, and this one is a bit of a fresh air,than the usuall mick harvey production in the late 15 years or more.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, as much as I liked the last Bad Seeds lp, I felt it came much too late. I had already OD'ed of that sound. Looking forward to this, but I guess I'll be a fanboy and wait for the official release.

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22204

"John Hillcoat is directing 2 music videos for Grinderman and people are needed to take part in London on 30th November. Ages 20's, 30's, 40's."

― My Koogy Weighs A Ton (koogs), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

"individuals with unique & idiosyncratic dancing styles appreciated"

Damn! Can't make it.

― Soukesian (Soukesian), Thursday, 23 November 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

I love this record! Nick Cave RULES!!!

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Friday, 24 November 2006 01:31 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

no pussy blues video

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 25 January 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

That's one hairy band and one hairy bass line.

― kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

damn.

― Emily Bjurnhjam (Emily Bjurnhjam), Thursday, 25 January 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

nick cave is a BADASS! woot!

― M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 25 January 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

Nice. Reminds me a little of the Scientists.

― Soukesian (Soukesian), Thursday, 25 January 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

I saw the album at the store but didn't pick it up, because of conflicting reports. Has anyone heard it in full?

― baaderonixx, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

i know the girl who makes out in the video.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Damnit, this is out already? And I didn't look for it at the damn CD store today? ARRRRGH

― Bimble, Saturday, 3 March 2007 06:36 (eighteen years ago)

It's not out yet. You are safe until April 10!

What a long leak!

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 3 March 2007 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, that makes me feel better. But you know what? They're all long leaks nowadays. It's despicable. I go into a shop looking for something I've already heard and know I want to buy and it's...not even there. Ridiculous.

― Bimble, Saturday, 3 March 2007 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

This album is weak. "Grinderman"'s the best thing on it. Otherwise, it just seems same ol' same ol'.

― Capitaine Jay Vee, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'm thinking Tin Machine, I'm thinking garage band with a budget.

― moley, Saturday, 3 March 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

Tin Machine? That's harsh.

― Soukesian, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

And, I hope, uncalled for.

― Soukesian, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Err, this is out, at least in continental Europe. I saw it in a big retail chain.

― baaderonixx, Monday, 5 March 2007 09:06 (eighteen years ago)

It's out in Australia too.

― SeekAltRoute, Monday, 5 March 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

The song holds, like, totally unexpected promise until the first minute and 1/2. The guitar/noise thingy in the chorus is nice. The lyric's rubbish. Such gathering of facial hair per such short square metres is truly, utterly hideous. Promises to be even worse than Tin Machine. Looked afterwards for some Birthday Party stuff on YouTube. Much, much better hairstyles all around. Much, much better music too. Thanks for reminding me why I virtually stopped caring after Tender Prey.

― JML, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, thank you (on the way back from the obligatory lunchtime headphone check in ye local Megastore); Tin Machine was exactly the comparison point I was looking for. At least the Stooges make no pretence about what they're doing in 2007 and why they're doing it.

Another £11.99 saved, then *ticks off spreadsheet*...

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

buncha killjoys, you lot. i'm buying this RIGHT NOW. i love it. reductive nick cave is what i want to hear.

(i should maybe point out that i also liked tin machine, but that is neither here nor there.)

on a good day - no, really, stop laughing - i have a vague, passing, slight facial resemblance to nick cave. seeing him now, i really am considering growing that moustache back and to hell with the consquences (ie instant dumping by mrs f).

― grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I loved the single and I can't really see how the rest of the album would slide into ageing dad-rock, so maybe some people could say a few more words on how it sounds? Alternatively, of course, I could simply rush to my favorite p2p and shut up.

― baaderonixx, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

okay, bought, listened ... nothing else on there is remotely as good as "no pussy blues". it's good, and it's fun, and it rocks, but it is ultimately kinda dispensable. next time i listen i'm going to do so at two or three times the volume.

but TBH what the fuck should one expect from a side project? entertaining grindy bluesy rock does it just fine for me.

― grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Grinderman would have been much better if it had been the new Chico side project.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

i can't argue with that.

― grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

There are a few songs on this that I find really, oddly compelling. Sure the album starts with the promise of vitriol and doesn't deliver, but it depends on what style you're looking for or what you'll tolerate. A real mixed bag, even in lyrical quality. But it still seems to me I'm happier with some things on this album than I have been with his work since Boatman's Call which has proven to be the masterpiece he's likely never to match.

― Bimble, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:07 (eighteen years ago)

It's a pretty good album.

― admrl, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:37 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

Grinderman 2 and live dates on the way. You won't see a better poster than this all year:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs573.snc3/31247_394838113510_308277788510_4225809_927805_n.jpg

― Position Position, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

Ellis told The Quietus:

"It’s kind of like stoner rock meets Sly Stone via Amon Duul. It’s very diverse, and there’s a lot of stuff on there that doesn’t sound like anything we’ve done before. Nick’s got a different thing going on with the lyrics than he would have from the Bad Seeds, and he’s found a new thing from the first album. Less sex? I wouldn’t say that. It’s psychedelic, and I think it’s great. We’re really excited about it."

― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Really, really excited.

The first album was awesome.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

I totally gave up on Nick Cave at this point and didn't find the previous G-Man partic interesting but ... "Sly Stone via Amon Duul"? Hmmmm....

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 08:14 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

holy shit at this little wolf video album trailer thing

http://www.grinderman.com/

― del griffith, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

that just will not load.

― Simon H., Monday, 21 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

yah didn't work for me either

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

Same.

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

yall need to upgrade your computer softwares and log on to the digital age already

― del griffith, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

not to be all street teamy or anything but

this is the first single (and its art)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs067.ash2/36707_404974883510_308277788510_4495033_4113965_n.jpg

― del griffith, Monday, 28 June 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

New teaser trailer, directed by John Hillcoat of The Road fame.

http://www.factoryfilms.net/galleries/Grinderman_Trailer.mov

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)

Bringing back "wolf" like its 2005 again.

― Evan, Saturday, 17 July 2010 01:38 (fifteen years ago)

Extended version of the 12" features Robert Fripp on guitar. An unlikely collaboration but can't wait to hear it.

― margana (anagram), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

videoclip (warning: mammaries)

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid84902428001?bclid=9783754001&bctid=479890348001

― StanM, Monday, 9 August 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

If Nick wasn't in that I would've sworn it was some fan-made vid.

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 9 August 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

i hope the new record will be better than this lame song, but it will probably won't/

― Zeno, Monday, 9 August 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

i agree the song is very disappointing

― del griffith, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)

Lousy song and lame video.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

John Hillcoat should stick with movies.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

Wow that video haha

― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

I can't tell if its meant to be a joke or not...

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

are you serious?

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

f.f.s. he's grooving in space wearing a goddamn centurion's outfit.

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

Haha okay I can tell it's meant to be a joke, but I'm not sure why anyone would think it's funny.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Alpha male hilarity & B movies w/ a healthy dash of racial profiling thrown in... I fucking love it. The gurning madman standing behind me at the last Bad Seeds show I attended probably doesn't. Get old and laugh at yourself, full stop.

― Mr. Shirts, Monday, 9 August 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ the guy from the Hot Chip video also being this video and doing shit with his eyes AGAIN.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 August 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

I dig it. Does a good job of extending the goofy evil of the "Nick the Stripper" video thirty years on, without trying to live up to it. Same for the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5I2vEcVC_I

― bendy, Friday, 13 August 2010 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

Lousy song and lame video.

― kshighway61 revisited (electricsound), Friday, 13 August 2010 02:01 (fifteen years ago)

I thought it was a fun, taking the piss kinda video. And I don't mind the song either. (Possibly too fangirl abt Nick to give any real balanced opinion though, lol)

― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 13 August 2010 02:46 (fifteen years ago)

first time I heard the song, I stopped listening about halfway through because it seemed kind of boring and repetitive. but when I listened again and listened to the whole thing, I liked it a lot more, the repetition pays off by the end of the song. Like the video too, pumped for this album.

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 13 August 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)