― hank (hank s), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)
Also otm about old music - I've hardly bought anything new this year and it's totally down to hearing something on comps.
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)
srsy, "the trip" introduced some incredible songs to me.
― derrick (derrick), Saturday, 11 November 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)
Bob Stanley and Pete Wiggs also compiled the two-disc Glen Campbell compilation The Capitol Years...anybody with a passing interest in Glen might consider this a one-stop shopping trip...also, Bob has compiled a number of girl-group collections, also for RPM...
― hank (hank s), Saturday, 11 November 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)
― timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 11 November 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael B (Michael B), Saturday, 11 November 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 12 November 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)
Link: http://www.saintetienne.com/eclipse1
― zebedee (zebedee), Sunday, 12 November 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)
― hank (hank s), Sunday, 12 November 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
― mikef (mfleming), Sunday, 12 November 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)
Is this the same Bob Stanley? He's a member of St. Etienne and wrote this article for the Guardian about an obscure movie doc about 60s London...
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 12 November 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 12 November 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)
this looks good too:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Its-So-Fine-Pye-Girls/dp/tracks/B0009HL0OO/ref=dp_tracks_all_1/202-3189635-6772613#disc_1
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 12 November 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 12 November 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 12 November 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)
― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Sunday, 12 November 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Arthurgh! A Music War (Arthur), Sunday, 12 November 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 November 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)
Think harder. Folk Is Not a Four Letter Word, Prog Is Not a Four Letter Word, Vertigo Mixed, Welsh Rare Beat, Songs in the Key of Death, Music to Watch Girls Cry: unbeatable run there.
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Monday, 13 November 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)
― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Monday, 13 November 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Arthurgh! A Music War (Arthur), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)
ps hiya arthur!
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)
I have to say, though, that the Finders Keepers releases I own do not get into the rotation as much as, say, The Trip or Velvet Tinmine...
― hank (hank s), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)
Mind you, I'm glad they do. The St Et The Trip comp is exceptional (will somebody tell me more about Mandy More?) and the Selda album which Votel's recently reissued is a thing of wonder.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)
Can't tell you anything about her, but here's a few titbits online about her LP:
- from a Q&A with Bob Stanley @ saintetienne.com:
"Ember Glance asks who the hell is Mandy More. Well, her mindblowing If Not By Fire appeared on The Trip. It's from an album called But That Is Me on Philips in 1972 (which includes a great cover of God Only Knows, an almost impossible feat!). I know she did a few equally intriguing non album singles including Coffee Cups which is very proto Kate Bush. Most of the album is, too."
- review @ the vinylvulture.co.uk forum:
"Mandy More – But that is me, Philips 1972A beautiful and moving album, one I know nothing about. On playing it through I discovered that ‘If Not by Fire’ was familiar – featured on St Etienne’s Trip compilation. This is one of the 2 tracks which features some great electronic / moogy effects (freaking out at the end) and is mighty fine. But the album is so not a 1-tracker, it is one of those perfectly formed complete albums. A little like Melanie’s earlier LPs, but IMHO so much better. Mandy More has a great voice and the arrangements are gloriously baroque – strings, harp, layers of voices, piano – and great songs too. Highlights, if I must pick them are: ‘But That is Me’ (almost a single – catchy uplifting song), ‘Listen Babe’ (gentle grooving number), ‘Come to me Jesus’ (lush complex orchestral, with a great twisting and swelling ending); ‘If I smiled on Saturdays’ (catchy uptempo number featuring congas and melodica). For me the best is the closing number – a fantastic cover of ‘God only Knows’ – the moog comes back (or it might be guitar through effects) and the drums are funky even has a harmonica solo from Mandy! Produced by a certain Tony Hall, if that means anything to anyone.... Find this album if you can, you need it!"
― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)
related to xposts: can anybody tell me more about Esther Williams (not the swimmer who turned up on the cover of the first Blur LP, but the soul singer whose "Last Night Changed It All" appears on The Trip)?
― hank (hank s), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)
I liked that Folk Is Not A Four Letter Word comp Votel did, and the welsh one he did with Gruff Rhys, but thought the prog one was just dreadful. Though I'd probably have dug the song selection if I was out at a club and those were the records a dj was playing. It didn't work so well as an at home listening experience for me.
― bastowe (bastowe), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)
those 2cd Virgin compilations were so beautiful.... i'm the only fan of "monster, robot and bugmen" compiled by simon hopkins and "jazz satellites" by kevin martin )and "kosmic kuruschi monster (vol.1, sigh....))? wish kevin martin would/could compile more...
― minerva estassi (minerva estassi), Monday, 13 November 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)
― hank (hank s), Monday, 13 November 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)
Was going to say a similar thing but wanted to articulate *how* and not sure i can right now.
― dh (djh), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Nedpoleon (NedBeauman), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)
I've been waiting for eons for Vol. 2. Jazz Satellites Vol. 1 was a life-changer. Some key person at Virgin must've got sacked, because it seems like all those amazing comps stopped issuing forth about 5 years ago.
Check out this lineup for the unreleased second volume: http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures/articles/satellites.htm
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 03:22 (nineteen years ago)
talking of wire/tony harrington compiled comps, the wire 3cd box on Mute i think is really good, but have never seen reviewed or talked about. Check the tracklist: http://www.discogs.com/release/125213
― minerva estassi (minerva estassi), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)
Anyway bored that downloading will actually be a pain for little (or big) records companies that will decide so that to issue comps, and the problems about it (licensing), it's no long useful and profitable (even if of unavailable music).
― minerva estassi (minerva estassi), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)
― hank (hank s), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)
The Garbarek-Coltrane-23 Skidoo-Melle stretch on Jazz Satellites is one of my favorite sequences.
― Pamplaxico Polancobon (Andy_K), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Tyler W (tylerw), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Tyler W (tylerw), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)
― So Ho La (So Ho La), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)
― opalescent arcs (Da ve Segal), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)
― hank (hank s), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)
― everything (everything), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)
― calvin johnson has ruined rock for an entire generation (orion), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)
― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)
big list of comps here:http://www.saintetiennedisco.com/compile.html
― Brio, Friday, 8 May 2009 15:12 (sixteen years ago)
that there website is a great source, thanks to whoever is doing it!...hopefully, it will be updated over time...(off the top of my head, I can think of two omissions: The Bobbie Gentry Capitol Years comp and the liner notes for the Jasmine Minks Soul Station Creation comp...I think Stanley/Wiggs also did a Dusty Springfield comp)...
― henry s, Friday, 8 May 2009 16:29 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, it's actually far from complete. anyone got something better?
― Brio, Friday, 8 May 2009 17:42 (sixteen years ago)
psyched 2 read
http://thequietus.com/articles/13523-bob-stanley-yeah-yeah-yeah-interview
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, mine arrives tomorrow.
― Mark G, Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:17 (twelve years ago)
I was just reading someone’s account of going to a birthday party as a kid and one of the parents brought over ‘Tiger Feet’ by Mud and said, ‘You’ve got to play this, nobody has a party without playing the current Number 1!’
Oh, I was actually that kid!
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:06 (twelve years ago)
Tiger Feet was the Gangnam Style of 1974 I guess.
― everything, Sunday, 6 October 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)
and then the Cat crept in.
― Mark G, Sunday, 6 October 2013 23:11 (twelve years ago)
Got this for my birthday!
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Monday, 7 October 2013 09:18 (twelve years ago)
Happy birthday!
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 October 2013 09:42 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, yeah. (yeah)
― Mark G, Monday, 7 October 2013 09:43 (twelve years ago)
only skimmed it so far (it seems like a book that warrants skimming really), but yeah yeah yeah, his history of pop seems interesting, though it seems to have zero interest in recent pop, and its all a bit too much of a flash through pop, never really getting deep into it. inevitable i know, but, it felt like a very post-internet way of writing about music history (should probably sit down with it a bit longer first, its just that after all the amazingly positive reviews, i think i expected something a bit better. the faber book jon savage and hanif kureishi did seems a slightly better approach to what stanley is trying to do, if more skewed towards rock, stanley is more open minded, and more equal in his appreciation of diff genres).
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 7 September 2014 07:16 (eleven years ago)
ok, so you have skimmed it, and it seems not to have much depth, right?
Advice: start at page one and read it properly and don't skip chunks, then you should find it more rewarding.
For all that books that attempt to encapsulate the history of pop either tell me little I didn't know, or end up opaque to the point of being impossible to read, this book manages to be entertaining and informative.
― Mark G, Sunday, 7 September 2014 11:55 (eleven years ago)
The guy's got a problem with Neil Young, that's for sure.
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 7 September 2014 12:29 (eleven years ago)
i'm just getting into it -- obviously a very british perspective happening here. seems to be hitting its stride in the mid 60s.
― tylerw, Sunday, 7 September 2014 15:20 (eleven years ago)
i'm about halfway through and enjoying it. he wears his enthusiasms on his sleeve and he's most useful when describing things he really likes. he's funniest when describing things he doesn't. his chapters are skillful encapsulations and like mark g says it acquires depth as the stories accumulate.
note the u.s. edition is trimmed down by more than 100 pages but gains exclamation points in its title. i'm reading the u.k. version.
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 7 September 2014 16:20 (eleven years ago)
He's quite pro-Neil Young isn't he (y'know, having covered Only Love Can Break Your Heart and all that)? Patti Smith and Joe Strummer and David Crosby come in for quite a bit of stick if I remember correctly.
Best thing about the book are the little anecdotes he drops in about various artists, plus the chapters where he covers scenes I don't know much about. Any book with such scope is only going to scratch the surface but it's an excellent overview and he does a good job at joining the lines between scenes - like how disco developed for example. And there are always more obscure records in there as well as the obvious stuff.
There's very little attention given to much post-Crazy In Love but you have to draw the line somewhere, even if I don't really agree with his drawing of the end of the Modern Pop era (I'm not sure I agree much with the concept in the first place).
― Matt DC, Sunday, 7 September 2014 17:47 (eleven years ago)
Oh great, you made me go and get the book. Alright then: "Neil Young [...] had a definitive line in self-pity [...]: 'I went down to the radio interview, found myself at the microphone.' Poor lamb."
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 7 September 2014 18:07 (eleven years ago)
The stuff I knew about felt largely like potted music history, which made me suspicious of the rest. He seems to make the same point over and over--when rock and pop parted ways, it was bad. I guess the Abba chapter was good, but again, is any of that new?
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 7 September 2014 18:09 (eleven years ago)
Shifting gears back to the particular subject of the thread, his Croydon Municipal label he started last year has been consistently good fun. Emphasis on public domain pop and jazz from the fifties and sixties, various compilations with an emphasis on female singers. He's got a related blog site for it:
http://croydonmunicipal.blogspot.com/
But there's no official site for the label itself as far as I can tell. It's a Cherry Red sublabel and pretty easy to find through their site and other spots.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 September 2014 18:15 (eleven years ago)
x-post
Christgau weighs in. I think there's also talk of the book on the ilm good books about music thread.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/review/anti-rockisms-hall-of-fame/
Discussing Bob Stanley's book. From July 2014
― curmudgeon, Monday, 8 September 2014 15:25 (eleven years ago)
It took me hours just to get through the first chapter of this because I kept having to stop and cross-reference things on YouTube / Wikipedia. Really enjoyable though. I saw him do a talk last year (interviewed by old-ILX's own JtN) and he seemed incredibly charming and humble, and didn't seem too annoyed when the first question from the audience was about what he thought about jazz music.
― monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:31 (eleven years ago)
this book is awesome for making spotify playlists. the one i pulled from the pre-beatles english rock and roll chapter is great.
― adam, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:30 (eleven years ago)
If you search Spotify for Bob Stanley playlists, you'll find the crowdsourced playlists for Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 8 September 2014 17:54 (eleven years ago)
Much I love Bob Stanley and his work, I found the book tough going. His style too condensed and telegraphic to comfortably read at length. There's no-one more qualified to summarize the last forty years of Phil Spector's career in a single sentence (and btw he's great at this kind of thing) or the solo careers of the Beatles in a paragraph, but it's just too exhausting to go through page after page of such condensed history.
― everything, Monday, 8 September 2014 18:13 (eleven years ago)
I read it on the bus for about a month. It works very well in 20-30 minute intervals.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 8 September 2014 20:33 (eleven years ago)
Yes, every chapter is like an article in Mojo or whatever. Also it's too personal in terms of what he thinks is important. He is a true music nerd's music nerd and he's a master on historical details, influences, product minutiae, anecdotes, industry movers and shakers, who-did-it-first type claims etc. But to him every single scene is centered around the music. Fashion, economics, class and so on are given short shrift. So it's clear he sees a difference between "skeletal" and "spindly" guitar sounds but for fashion it's not more like "trousers got wider". eg. he sees no significance whatsoever in Dexys' coming out in Brooks Brothers suits (he's amazed it WAS a huge deal at the time), but vast significance in their lyrics. Or he quotes Joe Strummer "like trousers like brain" without attempting to put it in context or explain it.
Not that I think he really understands the Clash anyway - another complaint I have is that his likes and dislikes (particularly his quick disposal of so many US bands) are petty and personal and detract from the overall theme of the book which I think is supposed to be a comprehensive overview of how the history of popular music is currently dissected, pigeonholed and defined. Ultimately I think it tells us a lot of details about stuff that Bob appreciates (which, don't get me wrong, is very broad) but there's not really an overall point to it.
― everything, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:47 (eleven years ago)
FInally got around to reading this, seems pretty fantastic so far. Read through the 80s chapters then went back to start from the beginning. Been buried in it for the past 48 hours, avoiding the Christmas relatives. Wonderful to read through alongside the Spotify playlists -- don't think I've been so engrossed in a music book since Revolution in the Head. There's lots of information here, but it never reads info-dumpy. And even when he gets it wrong (only a third of a page on Madness, dissing Langer & Winstanley), he writes without arrogance or Maconie-esque mateyness.
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 28 December 2014 00:45 (ten years ago)
I got this book for Christmas. Stoked.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Sunday, 28 December 2014 08:36 (ten years ago)
Finishing "Yeah Yeah Yeah". It reminded me of Nick Cohn more than anything else - this sort of conversational style, with a pinch of "hey others like it tho so I might be wrong!", more like talking to a friend than an attempt at canon building. This is the kind of music criticism I find easiest to take, these days, though it has its limitations.
So is Bob Stanley still doing his compiler work? I would've thought CD compilations (always one of my fav mediums) would've been totally slaughtered by streaming now, but Ace records for example still seems to be chugging along...
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:36 (nine years ago)
So is Bob Stanley still doing his compiler work?Yep, his label Croydon Municipal is churning compilations out on a regular basis; the quality is consistently high.
http://croydonmunicipal.com
― Jeff W, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:46 (nine years ago)
hmm, that website hasn't been updated for over a year (RIP websites) but there have been 2016 releases
― Jeff W, Monday, 21 November 2016 10:52 (nine years ago)
i'm about 100 pages in. the bit about The Everly Brothers is incredibly exciting, shaping up to be the best music book i've read since Rip It Up And Start Again.
― piscesx, Monday, 21 November 2016 12:14 (nine years ago)
This one's up to date I think: http://www.cherryred.co.uk/label/croydon-municipal/
― Tim, Monday, 21 November 2016 12:18 (nine years ago)
i liked yeah yeah yeah a lot - it's insanely ambitious but it's a really easy read and it pointed me in the direction of lots of stuff i'd never heard before
― not all those who chunder are sloshed (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 November 2016 13:19 (nine years ago)
Thanks, definitley getting that "Songs For A London Winter" thing!
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 21 November 2016 13:52 (nine years ago)
http://acerecords.co.uk/bob-stanley-and-pete-wiggs-present-english-weather
The autumnal sound of Britain at the turn of the 70s, looking out through wet window panes to a new decade with a mixture of melancholy and optimism for what might come next. With the Beatles gone and the pound sinking, a new and distinctive sound emerges, led by flutes and mellotrons. Available in 18-track CD and 19-track double LP formats. The LP version is pressed on 180g clear vinyl in heavy-duty gatefold sleeve.
http://acerecords.co.uk/cache/images/EnglishWeatherCD_72d_1_383_383.jpg
― nomar, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:57 (eight years ago)
Nice. I spent a lot of last year getting a slew of his/their old comps so great to see a new one surface.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:59 (eight years ago)
English Weather comp is so great, that moment right at the beginning of the 70s, the tipping point just before psychedelia turned into prog, is probably my favourite era of music I know very little about.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 19 February 2017 13:30 (eight years ago)
got the vinyl of that coming this week
― nomar, Sunday, 19 February 2017 16:21 (eight years ago)
For me, the timing of this comp is extraordinary. I'm currently selling a large collection of 45s, mostly from 1970 to 1974, and featuring a lot of this kind of stuff. In fact, a friend, when looking through the list a couple of months ago, commented that parts of it read like a shortlist for a Bob Stanley compilation. And now, here it is! Four of my collection are on there - Belle Gonzalez, Offspring, Camel, Prelude - and I'm already familiar with the Daevid Allen and Matching Mole tracks, too. (Shame he faded out the Allen just as it got to the three-minute Gilli Smyth "space whisper" outro, though!)
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 19 February 2017 22:32 (eight years ago)
The T2 vocalist sounds a lot like Ray Davies.
Van Der Graaf Generator's "Refugees" is gorgeous. Also "Caroline" by Matching Mole, been a long time since a love song touched me that deeply.
The Daevid Allen track could work in a Balearic set I reckogn.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:42 (eight years ago)
https://about.sainsburys.co.uk/news/latest-news/2017/01-11-2017-vinyl
I was totally ready to roll my eyes at this, but these compilations are great - as they would be, being Stanley compilations. Got the only copies I found in Camden Sainsburys - I gather they're selling pretty fast. I find it appealingly mad that Sainsburys' debut record release includes Sequent C by Tangerine Dream.
Tracklistings:https://www.discogs.com/Various-Coming-Into-Los-Angeles-A-Taste-Of-West-Coast/release/11098234 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Hi-Fidelity-A-Taste-Of-Stereo-Sound/release/11098310
― bamboohouses, Sunday, 19 November 2017 18:49 (eight years ago)
I asked Sainsbury's themselves where to find the stores that have these in stocks, they didn't know.
― Mark G, Sunday, 19 November 2017 18:53 (eight years ago)
I asked a grain of sand where to find the beach; she didn't know.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Sunday, 19 November 2017 19:30 (eight years ago)
Well, I've seen them in Heyford Hill (Oxford). I realise that might not help much.
― djh, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:44 (eight years ago)
Xpost that's beautiful man.
Nonxpost more useful than the message before yours..
― Mark G, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:00 (eight years ago)
Corporations are people, my friend.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 20 November 2017 00:55 (eight years ago)
Yes. I asked if there were 'vinyl stockists' (shud) in my locality, the person who replied said no. But if I was to try further afield, I should ring the particular store.
― Mark G, Monday, 20 November 2017 07:52 (eight years ago)
If you're really desperate message me.
― djh, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:56 (eight years ago)
Thanks, but I'm not too worried.
― Mark G, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:59 (eight years ago)
I'm a bit confused about these. I figure Stanley's usual target audience will already own, say, Forever Changes, let alone "Dedicated To The One I Love" or "What A Fool Believes", but a more casual type would be lost at sea with some of these other selections?
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 20 November 2017 22:01 (eight years ago)
isn't the point that they'll be listening to similar sounding artists in the context of ones they know and like
― Number None, Monday, 20 November 2017 22:51 (eight years ago)
Yeah, I guess that makes sense, and is good.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:58 (eight years ago)
i'm guessing a 15 year old gifted with these by an uncle wouldn't know any of it? or not much at least.
i wish he'd do 80s and 90s comps as i find the 60s and pre punk 70s dull as owt. a Bob Stanley 80s synth-pop/indie-pop comp would rock.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 13:29 (eight years ago)
How many 15-year olds do you know with a turntable to play them on?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 13:52 (eight years ago)
those crosley portable turntables were all tha rage a couple of years ago
― koogs, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 14:04 (eight years ago)
I don't know many 15 year olds but I'd guess half the teenagers I do know (NB: not many) have access to a turntable. Sample size: my friends' children. Other consideration: such children also have access to my friends' record collections, poor blighters.
― Tim, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 14:49 (eight years ago)
yeah these are nice comps but i'm also wondering how 'useful' they are and who would want them, especially in the age of Spotify recommended playlists etc
― Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 14:58 (eight years ago)
These look like v. good compilations full of stuff that will sound great on vinyl and a good balance of familiar and unfamiliar stuff. Obviously the really familar stuff will be in lots of people's collections (probably on CD) and virtually all of it will be available on streaming services but that's not really the point is it?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:02 (eight years ago)
i guess it's a bigger question of what purpose compilations serve in the age of streaming. I like having things on vinyl for all the usual reasons, so that's one thing. The familiar stuff has obvs been included to hook shoppers in with the hope of introducing them to the other stuff, but still it's an interesting thing to market through a grocery supermarket. I hope it works.
― Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:09 (eight years ago)
As a once-prolific buyer of physical-format music, I find that compilations are mainly what I look for these days, in the record store. (And lavishly-packaged box sets/reissues too, of course.) If I want to hear the latest album by, whoever, I can probably find it on Spotify, but the tracks on the more obscure comps (esp. the Stanley/Wiggs ones like English Weather, Tea & Symphony, Songs for Mario's Cafe, etc.), I'd be hard-pressed to find them all on any streaming service.
― henry s, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:20 (eight years ago)
Yeah, I think it's possible to over-think this. They're nice compilations - had the LA one on at the weekend, it's a good end-to-end listen with some unfamiliar stuff (to me) in there alongside the familiar classics - clearly not meant to be a Soul Jazz / Light In The Attic-style archival deep dive. The design's nice, and Stanley's essay inside ties it all together very pleasantly.
Sainsburys clearly shifts enough vinyl for this to be worthwhile for them - but given that I suspect they're mainly selling either Mumsnet fare like Rag & Bone Man and Adele or expensive reissues of very very overexposed classics, this is a surprising toe in slightly more adventurous waters.
― bamboohouses, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:21 (eight years ago)
i like the cover designs.very library styled.
― mark e, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:21 (eight years ago)
I guess the target market is people who have just got their first turntable and are in an enthusiastic early buying phase + older people who have just bought a turntable again after keeping all their vinyl in the loft for a decade. They'll sell enough to people who are doing the weekly shop and just buy them on the spur of the moment, I guess.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:25 (eight years ago)
> yeah these are nice comps but i'm also wondering how 'useful' they are and who would want them, especially in the age of Spotify recommended playlists etc
Merry Christmas, i got you a spotify playlist...
― koogs, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:47 (eight years ago)
Yeah, I don’t really buy the argument that the comp is redundant in the age of the Spotify playlist, given that Spotify also has *whole albums* too and no one (on this thread at least) is saying these are obsolete too. Don’t want to overstate the case for these Sainsbury’s albums, but a physical compilation can be a lovely thing.
― bamboohouses, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:39 (eight years ago)
you guys have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME about 15 year olds not having access to turntables?
http://theday.co.uk/arts/teenagers-are-leading-the-vinyl-revivalhttps://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/why-does-my-teenage-daughter-want-a-22-vinyl-record/https://www.seeker.com/are-teenagers-keeping-vinyl-records-alive-1862002918.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/21/crosley-generation-record-player-has-the-kids-spinninghttp://www.nme.com/news/music/various-artists-598-1200543http://www.nme.com/news/music/various-artists-496-1198503
― piscesx, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 12:13 (eight years ago)
That somehow ties into my slightly snarky theory that a lot of teenagers will go crazy for vinyl until they actually have to move it all into/away from college.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 12:21 (eight years ago)
So many Spotify playlists, even useful ones, are 250-tracks long with entire albums shunted in there and no thought to flow or confluence or anything else. Curation matters.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:35 (eight years ago)
Spotify also has *whole albums* too and no one (on this thread at least) is saying these are obsolete too
*bursts in sweating*
― nashwan, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 14:06 (eight years ago)
For those looking for more Stanley curation goodness, I'm listening to his Soho Radio show on mixcloud, and it's pretty fucking solid (though the discrepancies in volume between the songs and his voice can annoy).
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 20:05 (eight years ago)
http://acerecords.co.uk/when-the-day-is-done-the-orchestrations-of-robert-kirby
New Robert Kirby comp compiled by Stanley.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:35 (seven years ago)
Must have!
― henry s, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:50 (seven years ago)
Love that Keith Christmas track. Had no idea Kirby was involved. Comp looks great.
― groovypanda, Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:26 (seven years ago)
New Bob and Pete comp soon
A new project from @rocking_bob & @petewiggs due in May. More details shortly 👇 pic.twitter.com/7l7bAeIwXx— Ace Records (@AceRecordsLtd) March 20, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:50 (seven years ago)
Ooooh!
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:09 (seven years ago)
wow at that sleeve.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)
Fantastic sleeve and title, yeah -- we have details:
http://acerecords.co.uk/bob-stanley-pete-wiggs-present-paris-in-the-spring
The events of May '68 are seen as a turning point in France's social history - pictures of the barricades are still potent images. Lines were drawn politically, culturally, socially, and pop music was not exempt.“Paris In The Spring” is a collection of the new music, put together by Saint Etienne's Bob Stanley and Pete Wiggs, that emerged from France between 1968 and the mid-seventies, an extraordinary blend of several previously independent strains – French chanson and yé -yé, American jazz and funk, British chamber pop - shot through with the era's underlying mixture of optimism, uncertainty and darkness. This is the first collection of its kind, released on the 50th anniversary of the Paris uprising.Serge Gainsbourg – a jazz pianist with a chanson past and a pop present – was in a position to play a key role in soundtracking France in flux over the next five years. His “Histoire de Melody Nelson”, with its heavily atmospheric arrangements by Jean-Claude Vannier, was the acme of this new, unsettling French sound. “Paris In The Spring” includes other equally dazzling Vannier arrangements (for Léonie) and Gainsbourg compositions (for Jane Birkin and Mireille Darc).Prior to 1968, sixties French pop had been dominated by yé -yé, the country's unique brand of upbeat pop, a world of primary colours, mini-jupes and discotheques (a French invention, after all). Its stars either faded fast after May '68 or adapted to the new era: Jacques Dutronc (‘Le Métaphore’) and France Gall (‘Chanson Pour Que Tu M'aimes un Peu’) discovered a moody side that they had previously kept hidden, and Françoise Hardy released the Brazilian-influenced, after-hours classic “La Question”, from which we have picked ‘Viens’.New bands like Triangle emerged, influenced by Soft Machine and Gong who became regulars on the Paris club scene. French library music from Janko Nilovic and film soundtracks (François De Roubaix, Karl-Heinz Schäfer) reflected the era's edginess. All are represented on “Paris In The Spring”, making it a continental cousin to Stanley and Wiggs's 2017 Ace compilation “English Weather”.01 La Victime (Part 1) - Karl Heinz Schäfer02 Hélicoptère - Mireille Darc03 Les Aventures Extraordinaires D'Un Billet De Banque - Bernard Lavilliers04 Roses And Revolvers - Janko Nilovic05 L'Élu - Ilous & Decuyper06 La Métaphore - Jacques Dutronc07 Dommage Que Tu Sois Mort - Brigitte Fontaine08 Les Gardes Volent Au Secours Du Roi (Alternate version) - Jean-Claude Vannier09 Looking For You - Nino Ferrer10 Chanson D'Un Jour D'Hiver - Cortex11 Viens - Françoise Hardy12 Couleurs - Léonie13 Leslie Simone - William Sheller14 Litanies - Triangle15 Baleines - François De Roubaix16 Encore Lui - Jane Birkin17 Evelyne - Serge Gainsbourg18 Le Bal Des Laze - Michel Polnareff19 Lilith - Léonie20 Ystor - Ys21 Chanson Pour Que Tu M'Aimes Un Peu - France Gall22 La Victime (Part 2) - Karl Heinz Schäfer23 La Chanson D'Hélène - Romy Schneider & Michel Piccoli
“Paris In The Spring” is a collection of the new music, put together by Saint Etienne's Bob Stanley and Pete Wiggs, that emerged from France between 1968 and the mid-seventies, an extraordinary blend of several previously independent strains – French chanson and yé -yé, American jazz and funk, British chamber pop - shot through with the era's underlying mixture of optimism, uncertainty and darkness. This is the first collection of its kind, released on the 50th anniversary of the Paris uprising.
Serge Gainsbourg – a jazz pianist with a chanson past and a pop present – was in a position to play a key role in soundtracking France in flux over the next five years. His “Histoire de Melody Nelson”, with its heavily atmospheric arrangements by Jean-Claude Vannier, was the acme of this new, unsettling French sound. “Paris In The Spring” includes other equally dazzling Vannier arrangements (for Léonie) and Gainsbourg compositions (for Jane Birkin and Mireille Darc).
Prior to 1968, sixties French pop had been dominated by yé -yé, the country's unique brand of upbeat pop, a world of primary colours, mini-jupes and discotheques (a French invention, after all). Its stars either faded fast after May '68 or adapted to the new era: Jacques Dutronc (‘Le Métaphore’) and France Gall (‘Chanson Pour Que Tu M'aimes un Peu’) discovered a moody side that they had previously kept hidden, and Françoise Hardy released the Brazilian-influenced, after-hours classic “La Question”, from which we have picked ‘Viens’.
New bands like Triangle emerged, influenced by Soft Machine and Gong who became regulars on the Paris club scene. French library music from Janko Nilovic and film soundtracks (François De Roubaix, Karl-Heinz Schäfer) reflected the era's edginess. All are represented on “Paris In The Spring”, making it a continental cousin to Stanley and Wiggs's 2017 Ace compilation “English Weather”.
01 La Victime (Part 1) - Karl Heinz Schäfer02 Hélicoptère - Mireille Darc03 Les Aventures Extraordinaires D'Un Billet De Banque - Bernard Lavilliers04 Roses And Revolvers - Janko Nilovic05 L'Élu - Ilous & Decuyper06 La Métaphore - Jacques Dutronc07 Dommage Que Tu Sois Mort - Brigitte Fontaine08 Les Gardes Volent Au Secours Du Roi (Alternate version) - Jean-Claude Vannier09 Looking For You - Nino Ferrer10 Chanson D'Un Jour D'Hiver - Cortex11 Viens - Françoise Hardy12 Couleurs - Léonie13 Leslie Simone - William Sheller14 Litanies - Triangle15 Baleines - François De Roubaix16 Encore Lui - Jane Birkin17 Evelyne - Serge Gainsbourg18 Le Bal Des Laze - Michel Polnareff19 Lilith - Léonie20 Ystor - Ys21 Chanson Pour Que Tu M'Aimes Un Peu - France Gall22 La Victime (Part 2) - Karl Heinz Schäfer23 La Chanson D'Hélène - Romy Schneider & Michel Piccoli
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:17 (seven years ago)
great cover, will buy
― omar little, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:22 (seven years ago)
Awesone! I'd been picking up stray moments of this kinda stuff - that Nino Ferrer album that got spotlit in Aquarium Drunkyard, Léo Ferré's 1970 record w/ a rock group - and really welcome a curation of it. Roubaix is an all-time fave, too.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)
WANT
― Jeff W, Friday, 23 March 2018 19:20 (seven years ago)
English Weather was really outstanding - it was probably my most played record of last year - so hopes are high.
― mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 March 2018 13:37 (seven years ago)
There isn't a single song on English Weather that is any less than wonderful.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 24 March 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De7xjRYWkAAoAk8.jpg
New Bob 80s synth comp. He couldn't clear Kraftwerk or Depeche he says on Twitter
― piscesx, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:42 (seven years ago)
Track list:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De6hOOrXkAEiDeI.jpg
All gold.
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:35 (seven years ago)
There's also a Shadows / Hank Marvin / Welch & Farrar comp if that's more your bag.
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:37 (seven years ago)
Good to see some 80's deep cuts there. And Phil Lynott? Whynott!
― henry s, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
He's good when he's exploring genres most people don't know about - showcasing the best stuff that's often never been reissued or available on CD or whatever. But I don't get why he's compiling for Sainsburys like this which are largely tracks that everyone knows in genres that have been comped to death.
― everything, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:28 (seven years ago)
I kinda agree but otoh people under 30 do buy vinyl and many would probably also be into this sort of primer (somehow only heard 'Videotheque' for the first time last year myself)
― nashwan, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:35 (seven years ago)
*puts now that's what i call music 1 on shuffle*
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:40 (seven years ago)
No way anyone under 30 knows Lawn Chairs or Peter Schilling or Bill Nelson or B Movie or some forgotten China Crisis and Buggles singles. Comped to death, really?
― piscesx, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
I guarantee a huge % of under 30s know these, at least in Europe. I know lots of under 30s who know this stuff inside out and back to front; a 24 year old friend of mine is an uber Bill Nelson fan. Also, Peter Schilling had a massive revival last year.
Anyhow, Bob is a compilation compling god but come on, this one must have taken 15 mins max. I hope Sainsbury's paid him handsomely.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:50 (seven years ago)
Like he needs the money.
― everything, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)
I'll Stan up for the Hank one, mainly because I'd asked him yonks ago about "Other Shadows tracks that are as great as" Stingray", (album tracks tend towards MOR safety) and he'd suggested some. Trouble is, not that they are rare as in pricey, but rare as in hard-to-find, there's not that many of those singles out there.
So, yeah I'm quite pleased about that one.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)
Gave Paris In The Spring a cursory listen - CD player's in the repair shop so I succumbed and bought the vinyl. A lot of Gainsbourg-adjacent stuff, as was to be expected, I get to feel smug about having played stuff off of Les Gants Blancs Du Diable on my radio show before I knew Stanley's championing it - he's got three tracks from it on here!
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 11 June 2018 12:41 (seven years ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jul/23/now-pop-compilation-100-that-s-what-i-call-music
Stanley's alternative 100th NOW compilation (with Spotify playlist)
― Number None, Monday, 23 July 2018 20:01 (seven years ago)
Man, Stanley and Wiggs are on a roll with their late 60s themed comps:
https://acerecords.co.uk/bob-stanley-pete-wiggs-present-state-of-the-union-the-american-dream-in-crisis
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:43 (seven years ago)
has "4th of july" ever appeared anywhere else since the "good vibrations" box set? that song really is underheard
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:53 (seven years ago)
First time the Beach Boys' Fourth Of July has been on vinyl. Really happy with this one - hats off to @liz_buckley for making light of some very tricky licensing work! https://t.co/Iecrh6CUH9— bob stanley (@rocking_bob) September 10, 2018
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 09:56 (seven years ago)
Handy reminder
FINALLY!! Out today. “Bob Stanley & Pete Wiggs Present: State of the Union - The American Dream In Crisis”, available on CD and double vinyl. https://t.co/A3lMVyHPQa pic.twitter.com/gd6Luw9Q8W— Liz Buckley (@liz_buckley) October 26, 2018
― Jeff W, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:30 (seven years ago)
This is a fantastic compilation. Is there a sadder song than 'The Train' by Sinatra?
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Sunday, 28 October 2018 12:15 (seven years ago)
New interview with him via Pete Paphides on the Ace Records podcast, and the first question out of the gate is about putting together comps, so.
https://soundcloud.com/ace-records-ltd/the-ace-records-podcast-6-bob-stanley
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 November 2018 17:21 (seven years ago)
This was posted about 10 years ago but I think it's complete at this point:http://www.saintetiennedisco.com/compileb.html
I really need to check out most of these.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 16 November 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
Yeah, got most of them. Happily so.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 November 2018 18:26 (seven years ago)
i've got all of those Saint Etienne compilations except for the London Winter one. Need to get Paris in the Spring and the new one. Plus there are so many others, including a bunch released via Croydon Municipal that aren't specifically Stanley-curated but bear his influence.
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/label/croydon-municipal/
― omar little, Friday, 16 November 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)
New one! Just in time for Brexit innithttps://acerecords.co.uk/three-day-week-when-the-lights-went-out-1972-1975
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 16:34 (six years ago)
My copy arrived today! Have only listened to the first part so far, but it's ace.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:12 (six years ago)
the state of the union comp is great. looking forward to this one.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:17 (six years ago)
Yeah, I started off lukewarm on the concept of that one - songs about social strife from the 60's, yawn - the fact that it's mostly about how the squares and the olds reacted to that upheaval really makes it something special. That spooky Tokens track has been in my head for days.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 28 March 2019 16:20 (six years ago)
Three Day Week is excellent and strongly aligned to my interests. I fear it may have niche appeal, but hope I'm proven wrong.
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 12:49 (six years ago)
I think all of Bob Stanley's stuff for Ace is pretty niche. No bad thing obv!
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 13:05 (six years ago)
State Of The Union is so good. This track is a bit on the nose (a common thread amongst the album's squares-doing-protest theme), and I don't think either waves or bombs go "zzzz", but it still kills me, such a simple concept.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0wPbQoB_oU
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 19 April 2019 11:53 (six years ago)
I got my first working stereo system w/ record player in nearly 20 years and first thing I got for it was the 'English Weather' comp, it was a very good choice.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 19 April 2019 12:39 (six years ago)
Wonder what this'll turn out to be...
Working on a compilation album with @rocking_bob ; )— Tim Burgess (@Tim_Burgess) June 10, 2019
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 June 2019 17:31 (six years ago)
Available for pre-order on Ace - “THE DAISY AGE”. De La Soul, Monie Love, Jungle Brothers! Happy, summer music, compiled by Bob Stanley. Available on CD, 2LP and exclusive daffodil-coloured vinyl edition via Rough Trade https://t.co/4rALue1G41 pic.twitter.com/v3Lwxn1Azn— Liz Buckley (@liz_buckley) July 10, 2019
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:22 (six years ago)
Cool
― Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 11:03 (six years ago)
No PM Dawn but still, great idea.
― henry s, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 11:35 (six years ago)
I kept this Frosties box (with flexidisc attached) almost 30 years knowing it would come in useful one day. pic.twitter.com/VWd3PWdex3— bob stanley (@rocking_bob) July 10, 2019
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:26 (six years ago)
Tim Burgess posted a few days back saying he and Bob are working on a comp together, no indication of what it'll be yet.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:45 (six years ago)
Ah, duh, as I posted upthread! Anyway.
Did you know they pulled the town hall down?
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 16:28 (six years ago)
That is a compilation of good records but a bad Daisy Age comilation imo
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:59 (six years ago)
I listened to a Spotify playlist of Three Day Week yesterday, filling in some of the gaps via YouTube. Released in March, it's barely been mentioned on this thread. Sadly, it's not very good - too many raggedy, tossed-off B-sides - and thematically it doesn't live up to the claims made for it in the blurb. At best, it's a moderately interesting one-off listen, but you wouldn't want to return to much of it again.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 11 July 2019 10:52 (six years ago)
Xpost
Curious to know what you think should be on it.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:52 (six years ago)
Hard to extract four sides under the umbrella of Daisy Age, Who Me? would have been a better KMD cut though.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 11 July 2019 12:08 (six years ago)
I don't think it's missing "Delasoul" as that's like having a mersey beat comp and having the Beatles on, it's not really needed.
I'd have added "Wear your love like heaven" Definition of sound, but hey.
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:53 (six years ago)
Clearly its not missing de la soul at all. Ach.
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:54 (six years ago)
too many raggedy, tossed-off B-sides
A selling point!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:28 (six years ago)
no he said raggeDy
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:43 (six years ago)
I must insist
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:47 (six years ago)
Bit odd not having any Arrested Development on it but I suppose they're seen as a bit naff
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:16 (six years ago)
Fu-Schnickens would have worked in there somewhere too, imho.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:34 (six years ago)
they're on the vinyl version but not the CD
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:05 (six years ago)
You're all just moaning about copyright and budget issues though surely?
― kraudive, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:15 (six years ago)
New comp done with Tim Burgess
https://acerecords.co.uk/tim-burgess-bob-stanley-present-tim-peaks-songs-for-a-late-night-diner
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 16:26 (six years ago)
Gotta say that's a really interesting net being cast there -- very ILMish in certain ways.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 16:30 (six years ago)
There's something called "Tears of technology" coming up, I believe..
― Mark G, Friday, 11 October 2019 07:17 (six years ago)
Tea & Symphony enhanced reissue on Ace, now available to pre-orderhttps://acerecords.co.uk/tea-symphony-the-english-baroque-sound-1968-1974-1
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:50 (five years ago)
Better to say 'alternate' rather than 'enhanced,' I'm looking at my old copy and there are a number of tracks on that that aren't on this one.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:52 (five years ago)
"New and improved" is how it's described on the site. The first version went out of print pretty quickly, I certainly was never able to find a copy. Glad I'll be able to check that box off now. Has been something of a used-bin holy grail search for me.
― henry s, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:01 (five years ago)
Yeah, hold on, this is almost a totally different release using the same name.
Here's the original via Discogs:
1 –John Kerruish Time To Wander
2 –Graham Gouldman Nowhere To Go
3 –Jon Plum Alice
4 –Vigrass* Stop
5 –Kate Strange Girl
6 –Lea Nixon Off To Find A New Land
7 –Honeybus For Where Have You Been
8 –Eddie Addenbury* Captain Jones
9 –Nimbo Maisie Jones
10 –Almond Marzipan Summer Love
11 –Les Payne Very Well
12 –David Reilly Nothing Else To Say
13 –Lori Balmer Here Before The Sun
14 –Consortium Copper Coloured Years
15 –Marc Reid My World Turns Around You
16 –Roger Charles Watching The Boat
17 –The Tremeloes Till The Sun Goes Down
18 –Graham Gouldman Growing Older
19 –Steve Elgin Seductress
20 –Julian Brooks Justine
21 –Junior Campbell If I Call Your Name
22 –Quiet World Of Lea & John* There Is A Mountain
23 –The Humblebums Her Father Didn't Like Me Anyway
24 –Tuesday Sewing Machine
And the new one:
01 Pictures - Ray Brooks02 I Can't Let Maggie Go - The Honeybus03 Off To Find A New Land - Lea Nixon04 Alice - Jon Plum05 When The City Sleeps - Bombadil06 Fading Yellow - Mike Batt07 Say You Don't Mind - Colin Blunstone08 The Seventh Hour - Gordon Waller09 Mary Jane - Erasmus Chorum10 Shapes And Shadows - Tandem11 Please Believe Me - Nirvana12 Forever Autumn - Vigrass & Osborne13 Oh Girl - Richard Henry14 Very Well - Les Payne15 You're Lovely - Sunchariot16 Pollution Song - Mike Sedgewick17 Epitaph (When Times Were Good) - Bill Kenwright18 Coathanger - Clifford T Ward19 The Race - Christopher20 Closing My Eyes - David McIvor21 Lifetime - The Bliss22 Two Sugars - Matthew Bones
There's only three specific tracks in common, at least on the CD version of this new one! I won't complain for that reason, but if you're hoping for a true repress with extras of the original, that's not what you're getting.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:58 (five years ago)
Hmmm, that's odd. Why not just tack on a "Vol. 2" at the end?
Of all the Stanley/Wiggs comps out there, this is the one that just cannot be found, at least at a decent price. I wonder if it got issued w/o officially acquiring the rights to some of those tracks - maybe that's why it disappeared so quickly and completely?
― henry s, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:05 (five years ago)
Maybe? I always figured it was label collapse. (I did spend a pretty penny getting my copy a few years back.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:20 (five years ago)
I wondered that too, but their other comps of that genre/era (Early Morning Hush, Gather in The Mushrooms) came out on the same label and seem to be readily available, not cheap but not $$$ either.
― henry s, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:42 (five years ago)
Here’s that ‘Tears of technology’ 80s synth comp that Mark G referred to upthread.https://acerecords.co.uk/bob-stanley-pete-wiggs-present-the-tears-of-technology-1
― Jeff W, Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:51 (five years ago)
Nice range, and a whole lotta obscurities to boot (to me at least). Another one to order!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:55 (five years ago)
That Turquoise Swimming Pools (David Balfe and I think Troy Tate?) song is great, glad to see it available on CD
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:35 (five years ago)
Meantime, got the new Tea & Symphony today and the issues/questions raised are addressed by Bob in the liners, at least:
The first TEA & SYMPHONY collection was released back in 2007 on the now-defunct Sanctuary label. It was the first official compilation of its kind, but the sudden demise of the record company meant it hardly made it into the shops (this compilation has four tracks in common with its ancient ancestor)....To the delight of people who thought the mine was exhausted, previously undiscovered gems by the likes of Matthew Bones, Erasmus Chorum and Les Payne continue to be unearthed.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 February 2020 00:04 (five years ago)
Well, that 'splains that! Still leaves the original issue on my holy grail list...
― henry s, Sunday, 9 February 2020 00:57 (five years ago)
... And now, everyone else's too
― Mark G, Sunday, 9 February 2020 12:22 (five years ago)
My Tears of Technology arrived today along with a card announcing the next comp he and Wiggs doing -- Occasional Rain, which based on the title, font choice and photo is some sort of sequel to English Weather.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 March 2020 22:00 (five years ago)
Would have guessed a symphonic-soul comp based on that title, but I suppose that's not exactly their wheelhouse. And I also guess that someday soon Stanley and Wiggs will do a comp with "wheelhouse" in the title.
― henry s, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:41 (five years ago)
Dunno if Stanley has a wheelhouse, as a compiler. Recent releases include Baroque Pop, Glitter Rock and DAISY Age Hip-Hop, I don't think Symphonic Soul would be too much of a strech.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 09:52 (five years ago)
First glimpse of Occasional Rain?
In this time of financial hardship all I ask is that @rocking_bob and @petewiggs stop releasing brilliant compilations through @AceRecordsLtd pic.twitter.com/CO3jlj00cu— Andrew Male (@Andr6wMale) March 4, 2020
― Jeff W, Thursday, 5 March 2020 12:56 (five years ago)
Yep
https://acerecords.co.uk/bob-stanley-pete-wiggs-present-occasional-rain
― groovypanda, Friday, 6 March 2020 11:04 (five years ago)
Mott's "Waterlow" is so pastorally out of character for those hustlers, and really wonderful.
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:09 (five years ago)
English Weather is like the ultimate comp for very early January, the sadness of the party being over, excited there's a sequel.
― Matt DC, Friday, 6 March 2020 17:15 (five years ago)
really wish the vinyl versions of these weren't so expensive, i would pick up a bunch but £29 is just too much
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:22 (five years ago)
The Rough Trade shops edition of The Tears of Technology is cheaper than the standard edition (at £24.99) and you get a bonus track. Very limited though so you’d need to be quick.
― Jeff W, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:09 (five years ago)
Thread-adjacent: Saint Etienne have been releasing playlists on Spotify. Listening to the first one right now and it's brill.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 12 April 2020 16:32 (five years ago)
are these playlists on the page for the band, or under some other account?
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:47 (five years ago)
Yeah, they don't turn up on Spotify US on the band's page...
― henry s, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:10 (five years ago)
I third a request for being navigated/pointed in the right direction for these
― Cysteine Chapo (Craig D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:05 (five years ago)
#1 Hannah and Her Sisters:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1W3IFQSThNbmwbDs2wkSRL
#2 Picnic at Hanging Rock:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3dqpFvVJO1yVcEetltNtqO
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:05 (five years ago)
Thanks!
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 10:54 (five years ago)
Sorry, should have noted. It's under a Saint Etienne account but not the band's account.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 11:00 (five years ago)
It's interesting finding those personal accounts from artists. Kelsey Lu makes some good playlists
https://open.spotify.com/user/kelseylu69?si=F2MBHMeOR2CAfMNU3xl2gA
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 14:54 (five years ago)
― Tim, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 19:43 (five years ago)
Sorry -posted in error (but I am noting these, thanks).
― Tim, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 19:44 (five years ago)
Okay, new comp announced focusing on Thom Bell's production work:
https://acerecords.co.uk/ready-or-not-thom-bells-philly-soul-arrangements-productions-1965-1978
01 Here I Go Again - Archie Bell & The Drells02 I Can't Take It - The Orlons03 You've Been Untrue - The Delfonics04 Look The Other Way - Lesley Gore05 Tick-Tock - Connie Stevens06 What I See - Three Degrees07 Moody Woman - Jerry Butler08 What Kind Of Lady - Dee Dee Sharp09 Ready Or Not Here I Come (Can't Hide From Love) - The Delfonics10 I Wanna Be A Free Girl - Dusty Springfield11 It's The Same Old Love - The Courtship12 People Make The World Go Round (Single edit) - The Stylistics13 Back Stabbers - The O'Jays14 One Man Band (Plays All Alone) - Ronnie Dyson15 Do You Remember Yesterday - The Intruders16 I'm Doin' Fine Now - New York City17 Life Is A Song Worth Singing (Album version) - Johnny Mathis18 Something For Nothing - MFSB featuring Thom Bell19 Could It Be I'm Falling In Love - The Spinners20 You Make Me Feel Brand New (Album version) - The Stylistics21 Close The Door (Single edit) - Teddy Pendergrass22 It's Gonna Take A Miracle - Laura Nyro & Labelle23 Track Of The Cat (Album version) - Dionne Warwick
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:00 (five years ago)
Bob Stanley’s sleeve notes - with a rare exclusive interview with Bell himself - and a wealth of rare photos are icing on the cake.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:01 (five years ago)
Thom Bell did "Moody Woman"? Blimey, never knew that. And "Life Is A Song Worth Singing" is ALL TIME.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:44 (five years ago)
Moar!
"Saint Etienne Present Songs For The Fountain Coffee Room" is due: 31 July 2020 👍 pic.twitter.com/dY6TaZJzeM— Ace Records (@AceRecordsLtd) June 4, 2020
― Jeff W, Thursday, 4 June 2020 16:31 (five years ago)
English Weather sequel as good as the first one so far.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 5 June 2020 09:33 (five years ago)
Back to the diner theme!
https://acerecords.co.uk/saint-etienne-present-songs-for-the-fountain-coffee-room
https://acerecords.co.uk/cache/images/CDCHD-1575_1200_1200.jpg
The latest in the popular “Saint Etienne Present” series – soundtracks for places both real and imaginary. This time, Sarah Cracknell, Bob Stanley and Pete Wiggs have put together a selection to fit a bar in mid-70s Los Angeles, the kind of place where Warren Beatty and Julie Christie might meet in the afternoon for a secret rendezvous between shooting scenes for Shampoo.--01 Only Love - Bill Quateman02 Where Are We Going? - Marvin Gaye03 Get Closer - Seals & Crofts04 Tell Her She's Lovely - Batteaux05 One Way Or The Other - The Fifth Avenue Band06 Lilly (Are You Happy) - Daryl Hall & John Oates07 Love Is The Answer - Utopia08 Oh Honey - Delegation09 Easy To Love - Leo Sayer10 A House For Sale (Single version) - Millie Jackson11 Tin Man - John Edwards12 Thunder In The Afternoon - Bobbie Gentry13 Save It For A Rainy Day - Stephen Bishop14 Love Don't Come No Stronger (Than Yours And Mine) - Jeff Perry15 Hollywood - Boz Scaggs16 A Love Of Your Own (Album version) - Ned Doheny17 Natural High (Single version) - Bloodstone18 Hickory - Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons19 Touch Me Baby (Reaching Out For Your Love) - Tamiko Jones20 Sunshower - Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band
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01 Only Love - Bill Quateman02 Where Are We Going? - Marvin Gaye03 Get Closer - Seals & Crofts04 Tell Her She's Lovely - Batteaux05 One Way Or The Other - The Fifth Avenue Band06 Lilly (Are You Happy) - Daryl Hall & John Oates07 Love Is The Answer - Utopia08 Oh Honey - Delegation09 Easy To Love - Leo Sayer10 A House For Sale (Single version) - Millie Jackson11 Tin Man - John Edwards12 Thunder In The Afternoon - Bobbie Gentry13 Save It For A Rainy Day - Stephen Bishop14 Love Don't Come No Stronger (Than Yours And Mine) - Jeff Perry15 Hollywood - Boz Scaggs16 A Love Of Your Own (Album version) - Ned Doheny17 Natural High (Single version) - Bloodstone18 Hickory - Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons19 Touch Me Baby (Reaching Out For Your Love) - Tamiko Jones20 Sunshower - Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 02:50 (five years ago)
Ah missed Jeff's post there. Well a double notation, then!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 02:53 (five years ago)
Ooooh, my kind of thing. That Jeff Perry track is a particular favourite, I’ve played it out many times.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 07:22 (five years ago)
Good to have the track list, Ned. This looks like a must buy.
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 09:57 (five years ago)
"Natural High" I remember, the others I couldn't approximate the tune or.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:14 (five years ago)
Friend of mine who knows Bob took him to the actual spot named, thus the title. Apparently it's amazing.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 16:15 (five years ago)
It never rains but it... um, never rains
Bob Stanley presents "76 In The Shade" is due 31st August ☀️ (link in bio) pic.twitter.com/HkgXONJmT0— Ace Records (@AceRecordsLtd) July 7, 2020
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:00 (five years ago)
Great! He had mentioned this was coming down the pike in a recent Ace podcast interview.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:06 (five years ago)
The months without rain and airless days and nights might not have been something out of the ordinary in the Algarve or the south of France, but it was without precedent in Britain. The Summer of 1976 has remained a benchmark for long, hot summers – there may have been scorchers since, but none have seemed quite as relentless or enervating. The country melted into a collective puddle. “76 In The Shade” probably wasn’t anyone’s real life soundtrack of the year – that could have included Bowie’s “Station To Station” and Abba’s “Greatest Hits”. Instead, Saint Etienne’s Bob Stanley has put a compilation together that sonically evokes the summer of 1976 itself, its sweet heat and almost narcotic lethargy.01 Walking So Free - Spike Janson02 Sugar Shuffle - Lynsey De Paul03 Miracles (Single version) - Jefferson Starship04 Get Out Of Town - Smokey Robinson05 I'm Mandy Fly Me (Album version) - 10cc06 Stoned Out - Simon Park07 Nothing To Remind Me - Cliff Richard08 Discover Me - David Ruffin09 You're The Song (That I Can't Stop Singing) - Hollywood Freeway10 You Are My Love - Liverpool Express11 Liquid Sunshine - John Cameron12 Not On The Outside - Sylvia13 Stay With Me - Blue Mink14 Wild Mountain Honey - Steve Miller Band15 Fallin' In Love - Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds16 Flowers - The Emotions17 Montreal City - Azimuth18 Rock'n'Roll Star - Barclay James Harvest19 Miss My Love today - Gilbert O'Sullivan20 Music - Carmen McRae
01 Walking So Free - Spike Janson02 Sugar Shuffle - Lynsey De Paul03 Miracles (Single version) - Jefferson Starship04 Get Out Of Town - Smokey Robinson05 I'm Mandy Fly Me (Album version) - 10cc06 Stoned Out - Simon Park07 Nothing To Remind Me - Cliff Richard08 Discover Me - David Ruffin09 You're The Song (That I Can't Stop Singing) - Hollywood Freeway10 You Are My Love - Liverpool Express11 Liquid Sunshine - John Cameron12 Not On The Outside - Sylvia13 Stay With Me - Blue Mink14 Wild Mountain Honey - Steve Miller Band15 Fallin' In Love - Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds16 Flowers - The Emotions17 Montreal City - Azimuth18 Rock'n'Roll Star - Barclay James Harvest19 Miss My Love today - Gilbert O'Sullivan20 Music - Carmen McRae
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:07 (five years ago)
Surprised not to see 'Oh Lori' by Alessi on that compilation - released on a 1976 album, although not a hit single until 1977.
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:32 (five years ago)
lol dude needs to slow down!
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 10:49 (five years ago)
There was a curious exchange on Twitter where someone suggested that Bob makes all these compilations but actually spends his evenings listening to the Lighthouse Family.
"I don't get it," replied Bob.
I was bemused he engaged, to be honest.
― djh, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:22 (five years ago)
This is out today... almost forgot to mention it! Actually suits the weather. Didn’t see that coming. pic.twitter.com/qCVDYIzQ16— Saint Etienne (@bobpetesarah) July 31, 2020
― brimstead, Sunday, 2 August 2020 22:44 (five years ago)
Yeah, I was streaming this over the weekend and it sounded wonderful.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 3 August 2020 08:04 (five years ago)
When Bowie and Iggy escaped LA to go interrailing in the mid 70s they heard a new European music that was largely devoid of Anglo American rock influence. In Berlin one of their favourite haunts was Cafe Exil - this is it’s imaginary soundtrack. Out in December. pic.twitter.com/udkClxv7ev— bob stanley (@rocking_bob) October 5, 2020
― Jeff W, Monday, 5 October 2020 09:38 (five years ago)
Track list:
https://acerecords.co.uk/cafe-exil-new-adventures-in-european-music-1972-1980-1
― djh, Monday, 5 October 2020 17:30 (five years ago)
would buy for the cover alone
― henry s, Monday, 5 October 2020 17:33 (five years ago)
I already know and adore Jan Hammer Group "Don't You Know", the rest look intriguing.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 5 October 2020 18:08 (five years ago)
Allegedly a new one on the horizon called Choctaw Ridge Country Fables but no details yet.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:05 (four years ago)
The Cafe Exil comp is fantastic, really does take you on a journey.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:53 (four years ago)
Drunk thought: I wonder how long Bob (and collaborators) spend compiling these?
(I'm not really sure how widely he can draw from?)
― djh, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:55 (four years ago)
I did discuss an idea with him (online) which happened about 2 years later. I don't know if he'd already thought of it before, but.
― Mark G, Sunday, 17 January 2021 10:15 (four years ago)
anyone else stuck between not wanting to buy CDS any more but finding it hard to justify £29 for the LP? :-(
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Sunday, 17 January 2021 11:01 (four years ago)
I’m not quite at the ‘no more CDs’ stage but yeah the price is driving my format choice in the case of these Ace comps
― Jeff W, Sunday, 17 January 2021 13:30 (four years ago)
Finally picked this one up at the end of last year and it's so great - concept/execution etc. Hadn't given ISAN much thought for 15 years but in context it's perfect.
The second CD of The Trip *still* gets a monthly airing, pretty much
― technopolis, Sunday, 17 January 2021 13:58 (four years ago)
I've managed to avoid paying £29 for the doubles, but yeah.
One on ebay was £12, because the seller "was expecting something else" when buying it. Nm, his loss, my gain (it's great - the three-day-week one).
― Mark G, Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:24 (four years ago)
> Hadn't given ISAN much thought for 15 years but in context it's perfect.
that track is about 23 years old (which is about 8 years older then i'd've guessed) was a single in '98
― koogs, Monday, 18 January 2021 10:05 (four years ago)
Think I first heard it on the excellent Blue Room mix cd that came with the October 2002 edition of Muzik magazine
https://www.discogs.com/Chris-Coco-Rob-Da-Bank-The-Blue-Room-70-Mins-Of-Lazy-Space-Grooves/release/63182
― groovypanda, Monday, 18 January 2021 10:56 (four years ago)
ISAN are worth keeping up with. I like this from last year: https://wiaiwya.bandcamp.com/album/nothing-picked-and-placed-nowhere
― djh, Monday, 18 January 2021 13:23 (four years ago)
Thanks - will investigate. I've just realised how much ISAN product there is from the past 20 years...
Cafe Exil also now acquired and is a joy
Another favourite from a few years back is: https://acerecords.co.uk/saint-etienne-present-songs-for-the-carnegie-deli. You sense he could churn these out in his sleep, but the hit rate here is incredibly high and it's low-key glorious throughout
I think my very favourite Bobcomps are those where he's trying to evoke an incredibly vague ill-defined mood, rather than the sort of 'primer in genre X' ones. But maybe they're all this really, to some extent
― technopolis, Monday, 18 January 2021 15:29 (four years ago)
My favs of this recentish crop that I haven't seen receive much acclaim: State Of The Union (the squares react to the social changes of the 1960's, in a liberal rather than reactionary mold - semi socially conscious tracks from Sinatra, Dean Martin, Elvis) and 76 In The Shade (very much in that vague mood setting technopolis mentions, just these lazy, hazy grooves from all sorts of mid 70's sources).
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 10:50 (four years ago)
I'm super jealous of Bob Stanley, and dig what he does.
Is there really almost anyone else who gets to do what he does, these days? Make comps (not like Numero does, of mostly-unheard, primary-source stuff, but of good stuff of all levels of known-ness) that get pressed into physical media? I've got a few dozen Musicophilia mixes I'd love to see go legit like that...
― Soundslike, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:40 (four years ago)
Oh hello
I'm working on a compilation of 98bpm tracks, all from 1990/91 - hypnotic, post -acid, neo-psych (at least that's how I hear it), ... does this sound even have a name? Things like this by One Dove... it'll be beautiful. https://t.co/nnxDVJXpZH— bob stanley (@rocking_bob) April 13, 2021
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:30 (four years ago)
street soul revival is firmly underway!
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:54 (four years ago)
is that track Stanley posted street soul?
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 09:27 (four years ago)
I feel like I should know the answer to this ... but is there significance to 98bpm?
― djh, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 09:35 (four years ago)
Was a bit of a thing at the time
http://www.oakenfoldmixes.com/press-articles/mixmag-october-1995
In 1990, Paul Oakenfold bailed on house music. "The scene split, the scene went rave and I didn't feel comfortable with rave music. The noises were more cheesy and we were more song-oriented. Where I wanted to go was keep the energy and go downtempo. We'd be caning it for four years, we were ready to go out on a different vibe. "That's the kind of person I am musically. I could have made a fortune out of being a big rave DJ - I played all those Biology's and Sunrise's - but it wasn't about that for me." So began his 98bpm movement, a combination of dance grooves, indie rock and hip hop that ended up finally reappearing as indie dance with old Future regulars, the Happy Mondays and Stone Roses, at the helm. And on his releases as Movement 98, top slowed up groovers like 'Joy And Heartbreak'.
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 09:40 (four years ago)
Thanks groovypanda.
I was trying to work out in my head if there would be a particular physical sensation related to it. It's sort of top of resting heart rate or maybe bottom of moderately exercising heart rate in a young un'.
― djh, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 10:45 (four years ago)
"Joy And Heartbreak" is such an incredibly perfect song
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 15 April 2021 09:15 (four years ago)
Anyway, to answer your question, Jon Savage's latest collection 1972-1976 is one I'm currently on. It might be because it's the only correct reissue of the Faust polydor 7" of "So Far", um, so far.
― Mark G, Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:59 (four years ago)
Waltz Darling doesn't fit genre-wise but the BPM and the era work just about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOGX-x9UlLs
― piscesx, Friday, 16 April 2021 01:05 (four years ago)
New from Ace Records: ‘Chocktaw Ridge’, compiled by Bob with Martin Greenhttps://acerecords.co.uk/choctaw-ridge-new-fables-from-the-american-south-1968-1973
― Jeff W, Sunday, 13 June 2021 08:38 (four years ago)
Best songs from Elvis' 60s movies. That's what a colleague of mine reckons will be a Bob Stanley compilation project in the future.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 June 2021 09:31 (four years ago)
Followed by the best songs from Cliff Richard movies.
― speaking the language of goals, going forward (Matt #2), Sunday, 13 June 2021 13:57 (four years ago)
Lol
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 June 2021 14:13 (four years ago)
A guy's gotta pay the rent.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 June 2021 14:31 (four years ago)
remembered the 98bpm chat earlier this week and the mention of a compilation being put together.well, it has just been announced :
https://acerecords.co.uk/fell-from-the-sun-1
― mark e, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:41 (three years ago)
He has an Oh Brother I haven't heard yet too. JUst getting the John Leckie one starting at the moment.
― Stevolende, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:29 (three years ago)
So that new comp is about out -- meantime Bob had a few separate single-artist/producer comps out over the past few months as well:
https://www.acerecords.co.uk/the-more-things-change-film-tv-studio-work-1968-1973
https://www.acerecords.co.uk/looks-like-stormy-weather-1969-1975
https://www.acerecords.co.uk/psychedelic-soul-produced-by-norman-whitfield
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 July 2022 03:51 (three years ago)
Loving 'Fell from the Sun' and adding more tracks to it. It's like a bit like a sequel to this all-time great "Volume 1" comp that never had a volume 2:https://i.discogs.com/gxfEk4ZuG1E1cB4JfwPdaPZKsWIf5PHjNTBCsIvByOE/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:599/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE0NDUz/NS0xMTc3NTg5OTU2/LmpwZWc.jpeghttps://www.discogs.com/release/144535-Various-Classic-Balearic-Mastercuts-Volume-1
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 1 July 2022 14:27 (three years ago)
I wish Movement 98 "Joy & Heartbreak" was on it, it would slot in perfectly
― boxedjoy, Friday, 1 July 2022 16:18 (three years ago)
Fell from the Sun is so good. Just spent a pleasant Saturday morning listening & reading the sleevenotes (status: fully ascended Mojo dad) which have a nice 'Rock Family Trees: Chart Show edition' feel.
(Feeling old moment - realising we're twice as far away from this stuff as this stuff is from his 76 in the Shade comp.)
― woof, Saturday, 2 July 2022 12:57 (three years ago)
Two thirds through Let's Do It and the one big complaint I have so far is the lack of coverage of Latin music, which was surely very influential to this period (enough for Bing Crosby to record "South America, Take It Away"); so far the only references to it I've seen in there are a British bandleader claiming to have lived in Brazil and Duke Ellington recording a latin novelty song, which is shown as evidence that he was in a creative slump. Hoping he'll give Bossa Nova its due at least.
There's also a bit of a problem in making it about both US and UK pop. I get why he does it - UK pop is underexplored and a book solely about it would sell less - but it's really not fair, these huge developments in the US and then every time it goes back to Britain the scenario feels much the same as anywhere else in Europe (in fact I think histories of pre-Rock French and Italian Pop might have more juice!).
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 7 October 2022 11:01 (three years ago)
Excellent points, Daniel. I read it over the summer and if memory serves, there's a paragraph at the very beginning, possibly in the foreword, about how there was clearly a story to tell about non-English-speaking pop but for the purposes of the book he'd restricted himself (and his comprehensive research) to UK/US pop.
― giraffe, Friday, 7 October 2022 12:54 (three years ago)
I think that's fair and certainly a book on all pop worldwide in the pre-rock era would be far too daunting, but it doesn't imo let him off the hook for the latin thing, as the influences of mambo, latin jazz and bossa nova to give just a few examples were huge on English speaking pop of that time.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 7 October 2022 13:50 (three years ago)
New punk-era compilation, Winter of Discontent, about to drop:
https://acerecords.co.uk/winter-of-discontent
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 5 January 2023 11:09 (two years ago)
Post-punk rather than punk.
― Aw naw, no' an Antonioni wan oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 January 2023 12:17 (two years ago)
More goodness on the way: https://acerecords.co.uk/tribal-rites-of-the-new-saturday-night
― giraffe, Monday, 22 May 2023 12:12 (two years ago)
That looks pretty solid!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:13 (two years ago)
Yeah, these things just keep getting better and better. Wonder if Ace has a Bob Stanley Plan you can sign up for.
― henry s, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:57 (two years ago)
Looks amazing.
Is there a site where all these Saint Etienne/Bob Stanley comps listed? It's tough to keep up!
― omar little, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:59 (two years ago)
Here you go: http://www.saintetiennedisco.com/index2.html
― Tim, Monday, 22 May 2023 20:57 (two years ago)
he's got a new Bee Gees bio out which sounds quite good
― Number None, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:44 (two years ago)
Various ArtistsLatin Freestyle New York / Miami 1983 - 1992Ace
Another stunning compilation compiled by Bob Stanley. Latin Freestyle was a dizzying, passionate, ultra- modern music. It was the aural equivalent of a can of thirst-quenching Quatro or a Spanish Harlem dance-off, and it became the electronically constructed bridge between disco and house. Freestyle grew out of the electro sound of the early 80s, combined clean staccato rhythms with morse code synth hooks, and topped them off with emotive, usually female, frequently Latina vocals. There was plenty more going on besides: proto- house piano lines, Cuban percussion, high emotion and synth hooks to die for. Put together and annotated by Bob Stanley (who also compiled the acclaimed The Daisy Age and Fell From The Sun), Latin Freestyle is the first compilation to cover the whole gamut of Freestyle from its early 80s breakthrough to its early 90s revival. So many classics... Lisa Lisa made the UK top ten with the 808 joy of ‘I Wonder If I Take You Home’. Stacey Q’s cosmically great ‘Two Of Hearts’ came out in 1986, while 1987 saw the likes of Company B’s ‘Fascinated’ and Exposé’s ‘Point Of No Return’ become huge UK club hits. Today, Freestyle is a scene with a solid collector’s market, and rarities like Janelle’s ‘Don’t Be Shy’ sell for hundreds of dollars. It’s a classic summer soundtrack, finally condensed in one Ace Records compilation – Latin Freestyle.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 22 July 2023 11:15 (two years ago)
I approve. Some good choices in there. Interesting that he went with "Let's Go" by Nocera which is slightly less known than her "Summertime, Summertime," but I love both. He went with all female singers, which is a choice. There are two or three Cynthia tracks I'd pick before "Thief of Heart," but there are no losers here.
I would have a hard time choosing only that number of tracks for an all-encompassing freestyle comp, even going with just one track per artist.
― Josefa, Saturday, 22 July 2023 13:53 (two years ago)
Looking again at his 16 selections on this comp, I think my own freestyle comp would include exactly eight of those 16 tracks. And then I could come up with eight better ones.
Alfred to thread. I know he’s posted a best of freestyle list here.
― Josefa, Saturday, 22 July 2023 18:01 (two years ago)
How's the Bee Gees book?
I was kind of thinking "It's Bob! Maybe I've just not really got the Bee Gees and this might convince me otherwise?" but the excerpt in the Guardian didn't convince me to part with money.
― djh, Sunday, 23 July 2023 19:46 (two years ago)
I enjoyed the Bee Gees book a great deal, their story is unusual and interesting, sometimes bewildering and sometimes sad. I thought I knew a bit about the Bee Gees but didn't know the half of it. IT looks like a thick book but it skips along at a pace, there's a lot of Bee Gees to get through. I am pleased that he gives proper attention to the brothers' production work in the 80s.
Bob observes at the start that the Bee Gees have never really been a fashionable name to drop, haven't been the subject of much of a critical re-evaluation (compared to The Beach Boys or The Kinks, both of whom have had periods in and out of fashion). He doesn't ever really get to why he thinks that is, aside from a few observations about how they never really fitted in to the pop world, and often seemed to shy away from any kind of cutting edge. I'm quite glad the book doesn't give a direct answer to that question, but I'd pay to read Bob music on why the Bee Gees seem immune to being a cool name to drop.
― Tim, Monday, 24 July 2023 16:04 (two years ago)
Thanks Tim.
― djh, Monday, 24 July 2023 20:17 (two years ago)
London A To Z is great grey sky listening. The blurb on the John & Beverley Martyn track unpleasantly flippant if you've listened to the Andrew Hickey podcast ep on the artists tho.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 13:47 (two years ago)
A friend recently gifted me Tribal Rites on CD. It’s excellent, particularly the second half. As I’m currently working on a project with the veteran DJ Greg Wilson, I told him about it and he was v.excited by the track listing, particularly for the Sons Of Robin Stone track. So that’s a strong expert endorsement for you there!
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 14:08 (two years ago)
Man I've been slack on catching up on the various comps in general. Had missed London A To Z for instance.
Meantime, the other day I'm shopping in Amoeba and I noticed these two comps from him that I had missed completely! (Which of course I bought immediately.)
https://acerecords.co.uk/folk-funk-beyond-the-arrangements-of-john-cameron
https://acerecords.co.uk/incident-at-a-free-festival-1
The latter one is in series with English Weather and Occasional Rain, this time being 1972.
Next up is a Cafe Exil sequel:
https://acerecords.co.uk/fantastic-voyage-1
Plus a really interesting one to me, a Lou Christie comp focusing on 1967. (I keep being very surprised at how Christie barely factors into wider 60s retrospections -- was he too much of a flash in the pan in the end?)
https://acerecords.co.uk/gypsy-bells-columbia-recordings-1967
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 December 2023 17:33 (one year ago)
Thanks for the head's up, Ned! I too have lost track of these comps, which is a shame because I almost invariably enjoy the hell out of them.
I own 76 In The Shade, Occasional Rain, Three Day Week, English Weather (my fave), Paris In the Spring, Tears of Technology, and State of the Union. Aside from this latest batch, are there any other crucial ones I'm missing, aside from Cafe Exil (which I can never seem to find)?
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 30 December 2023 18:01 (one year ago)
Having gotten them all I can't be truly objective but per the new John Cameron one, gotta give credit to his very interesting producer/arranger overview choices -- the Thom Bell and Norman Whitfield comps arguably work in more familiar territory but they're solid overviews (Bell's own thoughts in the liners are great), but the Robert Kirby one was really striking, a way to open up a view into a lot of 70s UK folk-and-related work I wouldn't have really assayed otherwise.
Meantime I've just now noticed that that 'A Taste Of' series he did for Sainsbury's, which I thought was vinyl only, did have at least some CD issues as well so I may have to start tracking those down.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 December 2023 18:14 (one year ago)
They sure are coming in thick and fast these days. My hometown record store always has a great compilation section, and when I was just back for the holidays I picked up the Cameron and Free Festival ones, as well as Tribal Rites of the New Saturday Night. Still on the hunt for London A-Z and the Latin Freestyle one. Also got the new Bobby Gillespie weepy ballad comp, also on Ace.
― henry s, Saturday, 30 December 2023 19:28 (one year ago)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, December 30, 2023 6:14 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink Curious. I've never seen the CDs (and only fleetingly saw the vinyl) despite shopping in Sainsbury's regularly. I don't recall the track listings for the ones I saw being that interesting??
― djh, Saturday, 30 December 2023 22:11 (one year ago)
(I might be being unfair/grumpy in that assessment).
― djh, Saturday, 30 December 2023 22:12 (one year ago)
"Cafe Exil" is my favorite comp of the last number of years, such a great ride. Very excited about the sequel even if its tracks are far more familiar than CE.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 30 December 2023 23:00 (one year ago)
The Sainsburys releases were basically "here's a basic ass selection with a few hidden gems snuck in", which is honestly very fair considering the target audience (it ain't us). Would still have picked them up if they had them at my local ofc.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 31 December 2023 12:04 (one year ago)
Sounds a reasonable assessment.
― djh, Sunday, 31 December 2023 12:13 (one year ago)
"Fell From The Sun" is decent though shocked to discover that One Dove's Fallen wasn't as good as I remember (at least in the version on here).
― djh, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 20:08 (one year ago)
Compiling some tracks recently [the ones on the Tarwater thread] and being a bit indecisive on the track-listing, I found myself wondering "What would Bob Stanley do??"
― djh, Monday, 12 February 2024 21:51 (one year ago)
"Fantastic Voyage" is another top tier compilation, lives up to the title!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 00:05 (one year ago)
Here's the next one: Thom Bell - Didn't I Blow Your Mind? The Sound Of Philadelphia Soul 1969 - 1983
https://acerecords.co.uk/thom-bell-didnt-i-blow-your-mind-the-sound-of-philadelphia-soul-1969-1983
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:53 (one year ago)
That’s…weird. He already did a Thom Bell comp a few years back! Hell it’s linked on that page. Is this a complementary set?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:10 (one year ago)
This is the sequel to “Ready Or Not”, Ace’s first acclaimed compilation of the late Thom Bell’s productions and arrangements.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:20 (one year ago)
Clarity!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:56 (one year ago)
Bob has been busy again. https://www.acerecords.co.uk/tomorrows-fashions-library-electronica-1972-1987
― giraffe, Thursday, 2 May 2024 09:11 (one year ago)
I used to own hundreds upon hundreds of these albums. I sold a lot on eBay ages ago, but probably still own several hundred, and I still have CD-Rs of many of those I sold.
The one track on here I really love is John Cameron’s ‘Northern Lights’. For some reason it always evokes for me not the northern lights but gazing out on the River Thames at night, in the 1980s or early 1990s, at somewhere like Battersea. There’s an ominousness to it or a feeling of lost time, or something. That's what goes through my head anyway every time I listen to it.
A lot of the others have aspects to them that I like, but things I don’t like as well. Sometimes the drums and bass sound a bit like jazz funk, but a bit plodding, not sprightly. Then there are certain chord changes that I find annoying. You can hear the loosely prog rock background of some of these composers and the changes they use are not always to my taste.
― dubmill, Thursday, 2 May 2024 13:25 (one year ago)
And speaking of that comp, new Ace Records Podcast episode with Bob talking about it:
https://soundcloud.com/ace-records-ltd/the-ace-records-podcast-31-bob-stanley
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 July 2024 17:14 (one year ago)
Bought the Paul Williams Songbook comp w/o knowing that it is compiled and annotated by Stanley, so there's another one for completists.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 30 September 2024 11:06 (one year ago)
Yeah, they come at you thick and fast. I picked up a Dusty Springfield comp some time ago, and sure enough, Bob Stanley.
― henry s, Monday, 30 September 2024 12:40 (one year ago)
The link I posted in 2018 is still updated.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 30 September 2024 13:05 (one year ago)
Thanks! That is a well-annotated web page. Do you happen to know what the red asterisks indicate?
― henry s, Monday, 30 September 2024 13:57 (one year ago)
I do not. At first I thought it might indicate "out of print" but that's not the case.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 30 September 2024 17:32 (one year ago)
Bob’s Patreon is excellent, a constant stream of quality content.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 30 September 2024 17:55 (one year ago)
Always a bit surprised when ppl I'd considered Proper Famous (within the music world, not saying joe average would know him) have patreons but I guess that's where we're at now. Will def suscribe!
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 30 September 2024 20:59 (one year ago)
https://acerecords.co.uk/american-baroque-chamber-pop-and-beyond-1967-1971-1
"American Baroque - Chamber Pop And Beyond 1967 - 1971" - will be released: 31.01.2025. The heyday of American baroque pop – or chamber pop - ran from 1966 to the turn of the seventies. It used string quartets, harpsichords and woodwinds to create a summer-into-autumn melancholy that was quite new, and quite far removed from rock’n’roll as Eddie Cochran would have known it. Baroque pop’s musicians often came from a folk background, with an affinity for acoustic instrumentation. Linda Ronstadt's first band the Stone Poneys had introduced the autoharp to their line-ups in 1965, while the likes of Bonnie Dobson and Nico experimented with a string quartet’s, searching for different, post-electric Dylan directions.You can trace it back to the Left Banke who created a sound that was soft but insistently sad - where were the guitars? Their guitarist Rick Brand claimed their lyrics "were written as rather self-consciously beautiful musical whimsy, as you find in the latter 18th-century Romantic music, pre-Beethoven". They had a huge hit with ‘Walk Away Renee’ and effectively invented a genre before combusting after just one album. Splinter group Montage produced a very rare album and singer Steve Martin Caro an equally rare single - both are represented on “American Baroque”.Though the baroque sound was quickly forced into a corner by the back-to-basics stance of power trios like Cream and Blue Cheer, many musicians weren’t yet ready to ditch cellos and harpsichords. Some groups like the Blades of Grass aimed their minor key melodies at an early or even pre-teen following. And others like Emmit Rhodes' Merry Go Round, H.P. Lovecraft and Appaloosa simply loved the feel of string quartets and woodwinds and continued to explore orchestral pop further, into the early seventies.In doing so, they created this tapestry of delights. There was no single blueprint for the American baroque sound – it could be bordering on the gothic (Russ Giguere of the Association’s extraordinary ‘My Plan’) or as small and precise as a music box (Tom Northcott’s ‘Other Times’).1. YOU'RE A VERY LOVELY WOMAN -The Merry-Go-Round2. I SHALL CALL HER MARY - The Montage3. RAGGEDY ANN - John Randolph Marr4. TULU ROGERS - Appaloosa5. TURNAWAY - The Pleasure Fair6. DIFFERENT DRUM –The Stone Poneys featuring Linda Ronstadt7. EMILY'S ILLNESS - Nora Guthrie8. BAREFOOT GENTLEMAN - The Association9. LAND OF SENSATIONS & DELIGHTS - J.K. & CO10. BLUE JACK OF DIAMONDS - H.P. Lovecraft11. TIME - Bonnie Dobson12. SATIN SLIPPER - The Blades Of Grass13. MY SILENT SYMPHONY - Chris & Peter Allen14. MR WEBSTER - The Monkees15. AGAIN AGAIN - Eternity's Children16. MY PLAN - Russ Giguere17. THE FAIREST OF THE SEASONS - Nico18. OTHER TIMES - Tom Northcott19. YOU LIED - The Neon Philharmonic20. CLOSE TO CARMEL - The Fun & Games21. HOME BEFORE DARK - Nora Guthrie22. I HAVE BEEN ALONE - The Common People23. TWO BY TWO (I'M LOSING YOU) - Steve Martin24. LORELEI – Rosebud
The heyday of American baroque pop – or chamber pop - ran from 1966 to the turn of the seventies. It used string quartets, harpsichords and woodwinds to create a summer-into-autumn melancholy that was quite new, and quite far removed from rock’n’roll as Eddie Cochran would have known it. Baroque pop’s musicians often came from a folk background, with an affinity for acoustic instrumentation. Linda Ronstadt's first band the Stone Poneys had introduced the autoharp to their line-ups in 1965, while the likes of Bonnie Dobson and Nico experimented with a string quartet’s, searching for different, post-electric Dylan directions.
You can trace it back to the Left Banke who created a sound that was soft but insistently sad - where were the guitars? Their guitarist Rick Brand claimed their lyrics "were written as rather self-consciously beautiful musical whimsy, as you find in the latter 18th-century Romantic music, pre-Beethoven". They had a huge hit with ‘Walk Away Renee’ and effectively invented a genre before combusting after just one album. Splinter group Montage produced a very rare album and singer Steve Martin Caro an equally rare single - both are represented on “American Baroque”.
Though the baroque sound was quickly forced into a corner by the back-to-basics stance of power trios like Cream and Blue Cheer, many musicians weren’t yet ready to ditch cellos and harpsichords. Some groups like the Blades of Grass aimed their minor key melodies at an early or even pre-teen following. And others like Emmit Rhodes' Merry Go Round, H.P. Lovecraft and Appaloosa simply loved the feel of string quartets and woodwinds and continued to explore orchestral pop further, into the early seventies.
In doing so, they created this tapestry of delights. There was no single blueprint for the American baroque sound – it could be bordering on the gothic (Russ Giguere of the Association’s extraordinary ‘My Plan’) or as small and precise as a music box (Tom Northcott’s ‘Other Times’).
1. YOU'RE A VERY LOVELY WOMAN -The Merry-Go-Round2. I SHALL CALL HER MARY - The Montage3. RAGGEDY ANN - John Randolph Marr4. TULU ROGERS - Appaloosa5. TURNAWAY - The Pleasure Fair6. DIFFERENT DRUM –The Stone Poneys featuring Linda Ronstadt7. EMILY'S ILLNESS - Nora Guthrie8. BAREFOOT GENTLEMAN - The Association9. LAND OF SENSATIONS & DELIGHTS - J.K. & CO10. BLUE JACK OF DIAMONDS - H.P. Lovecraft11. TIME - Bonnie Dobson12. SATIN SLIPPER - The Blades Of Grass13. MY SILENT SYMPHONY - Chris & Peter Allen14. MR WEBSTER - The Monkees15. AGAIN AGAIN - Eternity's Children16. MY PLAN - Russ Giguere17. THE FAIREST OF THE SEASONS - Nico18. OTHER TIMES - Tom Northcott19. YOU LIED - The Neon Philharmonic20. CLOSE TO CARMEL - The Fun & Games21. HOME BEFORE DARK - Nora Guthrie22. I HAVE BEEN ALONE - The Common People23. TWO BY TWO (I'M LOSING YOU) - Steve Martin24. LORELEI – Rosebud
― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 November 2024 17:50 (one year ago)
Saw a listing for that the other day! Complement to the Tea & Symphony comps I'd guess. Got the Paul Williams, library electronica and New Jill Swing sets last week.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 November 2024 18:10 (one year ago)
All look good
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 November 2024 18:17 (one year ago)
"Bob Stanley Presents Liverpool Sunset - The City After Merseybeat 1964-1969" will be released: 28.02.2025‘Waterloo Sunset’ is now regarded as the greatest song about London. It comes as a shock, then, to discover it was originally about another city altogether. Watching acts who had been huge stars just three years earlier but now couldn’t buy a hit – The Searchers, Billy J Kramer, Gerry and the Pacemakers – the Kinks’ Ray Davies wrote ‘Liverpool Sunset’ in sympathy.Compiled by Saint Etienne’s Bob Stanley, with comprehensive sleevenotes, “Liverpool Sunset” investigates a thrilling but overlooked era in the city’s musical history, covering soul, R&B, psychedelia and freakbeat.As this collection makes clear, the city was still producing new acts in the late 60s, and still making great records, it was just that the world had started looking elsewhere for its musical fix.By 1965 the Iron Door club, once the Searchers’ Merseybeat home, was beginning to host soul all-nighters where local band the Chants were often on the bill. The Cavern was by now hosting the likes of Solomon Burke, Stevie Wonder and Ben E King.All of this music was an inspiration to the next wave of Liverpool acts like Just Four Men, Tiffany’s Thoughts and the Clayton Squares. The latter were so highly regarded that breaking out nationally seemed a formality: they had two singles released on Decca, a six-week stint in Hamburg, a Ready Steady Go performance, and management by both the Cavern’s owner Bob Wooler and London tough-nut Don Arden.“Liverpool Sunset” also includes overlooked tracks by some of the original Merseybeat stars, Billy J Kramer’s soulful ‘We’re Doing Fine’ deserves to be better known, and Cilla Black’s wildly odd ‘Abyssinian Secret’ in 1968 was considered too outré by Parlophone and ended up buried on an EP. Adventurousness wasn’t an issue. Joe Meek produced both the Cryin’ Shames and Billy Fury’s brother Jason Eddie, while McGough and McGear had Jimi Hendrix helping out on the terrific psych-pop So ‘Much In Love’.Here are two dozen lost gems; 60s Liverpool classics once hidden now uncovered…1. IT'S A CRIME - The Kirkbys2. FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING –Tiffany with the Thoughts3. NOBODY LIKE MY BABE - The Dennisons4. JUST TO BE WITH YOU –Johnny Gustafson(aka Johnny Gus & Johnny Gus Set)5. IT'S ALMOST GOOD - Eddie Cave & the FYX6. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WHISPER - The Dimensions7. WHATCHA GONNA DO –Jason Eddie & the Centremen8. DON'T LET A LITTLE PRIDE (STAND IN YOUR WAY) –Billy Fury9. IMAGINATION - The Clayton Squares10. COME ON BACK -Paul & Ritchie & the Crying Shames11. NEVER LEAVE YOUR BABY'S SIDE - Tony Jackson12. THE CAT - The Merseys13. ATMOSPHERES – The Wimple Winch14. SO MUCH TO LOVE - McGough & McGear15. MICHAELANGELO - 23rd Turnoff16. SUMMER COMES SUNDAY - Swinging Blue Jeans17. A MAN WITHOUT A FACE - The Chants18. ABYSSINIAN SECRET - Cilla Black19. WE'RE DOING FINE - Billy J Kramer & the Dakotas20. COME ON - The Carrolls21. CONSTANTLY CHANGING - The Koobas22. GIRL ON THE CORNER - Focal Point23. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME - Crackers24. INTO MY LIFE SHE CAME - The Penny Peeps
‘Waterloo Sunset’ is now regarded as the greatest song about London. It comes as a shock, then, to discover it was originally about another city altogether. Watching acts who had been huge stars just three years earlier but now couldn’t buy a hit – The Searchers, Billy J Kramer, Gerry and the Pacemakers – the Kinks’ Ray Davies wrote ‘Liverpool Sunset’ in sympathy.
Compiled by Saint Etienne’s Bob Stanley, with comprehensive sleevenotes, “Liverpool Sunset” investigates a thrilling but overlooked era in the city’s musical history, covering soul, R&B, psychedelia and freakbeat.
As this collection makes clear, the city was still producing new acts in the late 60s, and still making great records, it was just that the world had started looking elsewhere for its musical fix.
By 1965 the Iron Door club, once the Searchers’ Merseybeat home, was beginning to host soul all-nighters where local band the Chants were often on the bill. The Cavern was by now hosting the likes of Solomon Burke, Stevie Wonder and Ben E King.
All of this music was an inspiration to the next wave of Liverpool acts like Just Four Men, Tiffany’s Thoughts and the Clayton Squares. The latter were so highly regarded that breaking out nationally seemed a formality: they had two singles released on Decca, a six-week stint in Hamburg, a Ready Steady Go performance, and management by both the Cavern’s owner Bob Wooler and London tough-nut Don Arden.
“Liverpool Sunset” also includes overlooked tracks by some of the original Merseybeat stars, Billy J Kramer’s soulful ‘We’re Doing Fine’ deserves to be better known, and Cilla Black’s wildly odd ‘Abyssinian Secret’ in 1968 was considered too outré by Parlophone and ended up buried on an EP. Adventurousness wasn’t an issue. Joe Meek produced both the Cryin’ Shames and Billy Fury’s brother Jason Eddie, while McGough and McGear had Jimi Hendrix helping out on the terrific psych-pop So ‘Much In Love’.
Here are two dozen lost gems; 60s Liverpool classics once hidden now uncovered…
1. IT'S A CRIME - The Kirkbys2. FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING –Tiffany with the Thoughts3. NOBODY LIKE MY BABE - The Dennisons4. JUST TO BE WITH YOU –Johnny Gustafson(aka Johnny Gus & Johnny Gus Set)5. IT'S ALMOST GOOD - Eddie Cave & the FYX6. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WHISPER - The Dimensions7. WHATCHA GONNA DO –Jason Eddie & the Centremen8. DON'T LET A LITTLE PRIDE (STAND IN YOUR WAY) –Billy Fury9. IMAGINATION - The Clayton Squares10. COME ON BACK -Paul & Ritchie & the Crying Shames11. NEVER LEAVE YOUR BABY'S SIDE - Tony Jackson12. THE CAT - The Merseys13. ATMOSPHERES – The Wimple Winch14. SO MUCH TO LOVE - McGough & McGear15. MICHAELANGELO - 23rd Turnoff16. SUMMER COMES SUNDAY - Swinging Blue Jeans17. A MAN WITHOUT A FACE - The Chants18. ABYSSINIAN SECRET - Cilla Black19. WE'RE DOING FINE - Billy J Kramer & the Dakotas20. COME ON - The Carrolls21. CONSTANTLY CHANGING - The Koobas22. GIRL ON THE CORNER - Focal Point23. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME - Crackers24. INTO MY LIFE SHE CAME - The Penny Peeps
― Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 January 2025 15:33 (ten months ago)
https://www.acerecords.co.uk/liverpool-sunset
― Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 January 2025 15:36 (ten months ago)
Looks solid!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 January 2025 18:38 (ten months ago)
"Gather In The Mushrooms: The British Folk Underground 1969-1975" will be released on CD & 2LP gatefold: 25.04.2025 🙏Compiled by Bob Stanley to document the acid folk scene, “Gather In The Mushrooms” was first issued in 2004 on Sanctuary as a CD-only release; it proved popular enough for a sequel entitled “Early Morning Hush” two years later.This new edition of “Gather In The Mushrooms” contains the cream of both long-deleted compilations with a few additions – COB, Roy Harper, Fotheringay – that weren’t available to Sanctuary at the time. Though they aren’t traditional, these songs have an authenticity of their own, an autumnal atmosphere and a naivety which proved influential in the 00s neo-folk boom (Devendra Banhart, Joanna Newsom, Alasdair Roberts, Tunng et al) but impossible to replicate. For many of these acts at the end of the 60s, folk music and the hippy world that surrounded them was a way of life, a way of opting out from the Vietnam war, Angry Brigade and three-day-week early 70s. Anne Briggs lived in a caravan in Suffolk, Shelagh McDonald lived in a tent, Vashti Bunyan eschewed electricity; they weren’t part-timers. Listening to “Gather In The Mushrooms”, we are transported to a time when no one used the term post-modernist.It may not have resonated with dyed-in-the wool political folkies, but over five decades later this music sounds very evocative of an England of yore – not necessarily one of poachers and pedlars, but one of long-haired youths in tie-dye T-shirts, bikers and hippies, acoustic guitars played in white stone cottages. Groups like Stone Angel (Bonus Track), Midwinter and Oberon made primitive, privately recorded folk albums; today they sound as distant and mystical as the field recordings of Alan Lomax. The sincerity and folk knowledge of a group like Forest becomes irrelevant once you hear something as eerie and evocative as ‘Graveyard’. Home-made, homely, warm as soup or chilling as a hoar frost, this is music of innocence and rare beauty.1. CORN RIGS – MAGNET and PAUL GIOVANNI LP Silva Screen FILMCD 330 (2002) 2.362. MORNING WAY - TRADER HORNE LP Dawn DNLS 3004 (1970) 4.243. NOTTANUM TOWN - OBERON LP OBE LPS 1 (1971) 4.414. GRAVEYARD - FOREST LP Harvest SHVL 784 (1970) 5.425. THE SKATER - MIDWINTER CD Kissing Spell KSCD 9320 (1993)3.206. WINTER WINDS - FOTHERINGAY LP Island ILPS 9125 (1970) 2.117. LORD AND MASTER - HERON LP Dawn DNLS 3010 (1970) 4.508. FLY HIGH - BRIDGET ST JOHN Dandelion 2001-280 (1972) 3.179. SHEEP SEASON - MELLOW CANDLE LP Deram SDL 7 (1972) 4.5810. THE SEAGULLS SCREAM - CHRISTINE QUAYLE LP Sentinel SENS 1001 (1970) 4.0111. FOREST AND THE SHORE - KEITH CHRISTMAS B&C CAS 1041 (1971) 7.0412. ROSEMARY HILL - FRESH MAGGOTS LP RCA SF 8205 (1971) 3.3313. FINE HORSEMAN - ANNE BRIGGS LP RCA S64612 (1971) 3.0214. THE WEREWOLF - BARRY DRANSFIELD LP Polydor Folk Mill 2383 160 (1972) 3.4615. ANOTHER DAY - ROY HARPER LP Harvest SHVL 766 (1969) 2.5816. WINDOW OVER THE BAY - VASHTI BUNYAN LP Philips 6308 019 (1970) 1.4717. ELEVEN WILLOWS - COB (CLIVE’S ORIGINAL BAND) LP Polydor Folk Mill 2383 161 (1972) 2.2418. THE HERALD - COMUS LP Dawn DNLS 3019 (1971) 12.10
Compiled by Bob Stanley to document the acid folk scene, “Gather In The Mushrooms” was first issued in 2004 on Sanctuary as a CD-only release; it proved popular enough for a sequel entitled “Early Morning Hush” two years later.
This new edition of “Gather In The Mushrooms” contains the cream of both long-deleted compilations with a few additions – COB, Roy Harper, Fotheringay – that weren’t available to Sanctuary at the time. Though they aren’t traditional, these songs have an authenticity of their own, an autumnal atmosphere and a naivety which proved influential in the 00s neo-folk boom (Devendra Banhart, Joanna Newsom, Alasdair Roberts, Tunng et al) but impossible to replicate. For many of these acts at the end of the 60s, folk music and the hippy world that surrounded them was a way of life, a way of opting out from the Vietnam war, Angry Brigade and three-day-week early 70s. Anne Briggs lived in a caravan in Suffolk, Shelagh McDonald lived in a tent, Vashti Bunyan eschewed electricity; they weren’t part-timers. Listening to “Gather In The Mushrooms”, we are transported to a time when no one used the term post-modernist.
It may not have resonated with dyed-in-the wool political folkies, but over five decades later this music sounds very evocative of an England of yore – not necessarily one of poachers and pedlars, but one of long-haired youths in tie-dye T-shirts, bikers and hippies, acoustic guitars played in white stone cottages. Groups like Stone Angel (Bonus Track), Midwinter and Oberon made primitive, privately recorded folk albums; today they sound as distant and mystical as the field recordings of Alan Lomax. The sincerity and folk knowledge of a group like Forest becomes irrelevant once you hear something as eerie and evocative as ‘Graveyard’. Home-made, homely, warm as soup or chilling as a hoar frost, this is music of innocence and rare beauty.
1. CORN RIGS – MAGNET and PAUL GIOVANNI LP Silva Screen FILMCD 330 (2002) 2.362. MORNING WAY - TRADER HORNE LP Dawn DNLS 3004 (1970) 4.243. NOTTANUM TOWN - OBERON LP OBE LPS 1 (1971) 4.414. GRAVEYARD - FOREST LP Harvest SHVL 784 (1970) 5.425. THE SKATER - MIDWINTER CD Kissing Spell KSCD 9320 (1993)3.206. WINTER WINDS - FOTHERINGAY LP Island ILPS 9125 (1970) 2.117. LORD AND MASTER - HERON LP Dawn DNLS 3010 (1970) 4.508. FLY HIGH - BRIDGET ST JOHN Dandelion 2001-280 (1972) 3.179. SHEEP SEASON - MELLOW CANDLE LP Deram SDL 7 (1972) 4.5810. THE SEAGULLS SCREAM - CHRISTINE QUAYLE LP Sentinel SENS 1001 (1970) 4.0111. FOREST AND THE SHORE - KEITH CHRISTMAS B&C CAS 1041 (1971) 7.0412. ROSEMARY HILL - FRESH MAGGOTS LP RCA SF 8205 (1971) 3.3313. FINE HORSEMAN - ANNE BRIGGS LP RCA S64612 (1971) 3.0214. THE WEREWOLF - BARRY DRANSFIELD LP Polydor Folk Mill 2383 160 (1972) 3.4615. ANOTHER DAY - ROY HARPER LP Harvest SHVL 766 (1969) 2.5816. WINDOW OVER THE BAY - VASHTI BUNYAN LP Philips 6308 019 (1970) 1.4717. ELEVEN WILLOWS - COB (CLIVE’S ORIGINAL BAND) LP Polydor Folk Mill 2383 161 (1972) 2.2418. THE HERALD - COMUS LP Dawn DNLS 3019 (1971) 12.10
― Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 March 2025 17:56 (eight months ago)
https://acerecords.co.uk/gather-in-the-mushrooms-1
― Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 March 2025 17:57 (eight months ago)
That's pretty cool -- I have both the original comps on CD but I might get this for the new additions.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 March 2025 18:38 (eight months ago)
So this is almost the case where this specific ILX thread inspired a whole piece of mine! And here it is!
https://theshfl.com/guide/Bob-Stanley-Compiler
For Shfl, guides like these max out at 20, so I could have included more but I wanted a good sense of range over the moons.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 May 2025 18:25 (six months ago)
I especially like his compilations that attempt to soundtrack a particular place (Cafe Exil, Mario's Cafe, Fountain Coffee Room, Tim Peaks, etc.) My irl local hangouts are shite compared to these!
― henry s, Thursday, 15 May 2025 22:04 (six months ago)
Haha yeah, you keep wanting to imagine being there and enjoying the food and drink just so
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 May 2025 02:06 (six months ago)
He puts together some great playlists on his Patreon, as well.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 16 May 2025 10:15 (six months ago)
Incident at a Free Festival sorely overlooked, "Out Demons Out" by the Edgar Broughton Band was a revelation of sorts
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 16 May 2025 10:18 (six months ago)
The one I'd have added more than anything else is 76 In The Shade, which I come back to every summer.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 16 May 2025 11:05 (six months ago)
Can't Stop Won't Stop Chip Shop Pop
At the turn of the 70s, songwriters like Tony Macaulay (‘Love Grows Where My Rosemary Goes’), Cook and Greenaway (‘Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart’), Lynsey De Paul and Barry Blue (‘Storm In A Teacup’) and John Carter (‘Beach Baby’) were bossing the singles charts and Radio 1 while more serious acts like Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd concentrated on album sales.“Chip Shop Pop” is a stellar collection of super-melodic, expertly crafted songs; it gathers two dozen of the songs that got away, all potential hits written by these Denmark Street-schooled songwriters. You might have only heard these records once or twice before, coming out of a passing kid's transistor radio, or in the background in a cafe, or a chippie, and then they disappeared into the ether never to be heard again - until now.Aside from the Fortunes, Marty Wilde and Candlewick Green, very few of these names will be at all familiar but the harmonies, the string and brass arrangements and top session musician playing will all be familiar to anyone who loves the sound of ‘My Baby Loves Lovin'’, ‘Silver Lady’ or ‘(If Paradise Is) Half As Nice’. They are all incredibly catchy.Compiled by Bob Stanley from his sizeable collection of 70s 7" singles, ”Chip Shop Pop” revives records on Bell, UK, Young Blood and Bradley's, labels that were home to these unabashed radio-friendly sounds that would disappear when first disco, then punk, came along later in the 70s.Dormant for decades, many unavailable for more than fifty years, here is a perfect collection of sunshine-friendly pop with a capital P.01 Hello Hello Hello - Stormy Petrel02 Melanie Makes Me Smile - Tony Burrows03 Tip Of My Tongue - Brotherly Love04 Lost And Found - Whiskey Mac05 On a Plane to Nowhere - Barracade06 Leave A Little Love - Candlewick Green07 Lady Pearl - Currant Kraze08 On The Run - Scorched Earth09 I Want To Be Where You Are - Scarecrow10 Telltale - Patches11 Rusty Hands Of Time - Peter Doyle12. A Little Thing Like Love - River13 Dreams Are Ten a Penny - John Kincade14 In the Morning - Bitter Almond15 Every Little Move She Makes - White Plains16 Schoolgirl Notion - Janie & The Marlettes17 Here Comes That Rainy Day Feeling Again - Fortunes18 Yellow Bird (Have You No Home) - Design19 Clovelly - Roger Holman & Simon May20 I Need Your Everlasting Love - Liberty Helm21 Bye Goodbye - Silver Lining22 It's Getting Sweeter All The Time - Shorty23 Caterpillar - Cold Fly24 This Is My Life - Wei Wei Wong
“Chip Shop Pop” is a stellar collection of super-melodic, expertly crafted songs; it gathers two dozen of the songs that got away, all potential hits written by these Denmark Street-schooled songwriters. You might have only heard these records once or twice before, coming out of a passing kid's transistor radio, or in the background in a cafe, or a chippie, and then they disappeared into the ether never to be heard again - until now.
Aside from the Fortunes, Marty Wilde and Candlewick Green, very few of these names will be at all familiar but the harmonies, the string and brass arrangements and top session musician playing will all be familiar to anyone who loves the sound of ‘My Baby Loves Lovin'’, ‘Silver Lady’ or ‘(If Paradise Is) Half As Nice’. They are all incredibly catchy.
Compiled by Bob Stanley from his sizeable collection of 70s 7" singles, ”Chip Shop Pop” revives records on Bell, UK, Young Blood and Bradley's, labels that were home to these unabashed radio-friendly sounds that would disappear when first disco, then punk, came along later in the 70s.
Dormant for decades, many unavailable for more than fifty years, here is a perfect collection of sunshine-friendly pop with a capital P.
01 Hello Hello Hello - Stormy Petrel02 Melanie Makes Me Smile - Tony Burrows03 Tip Of My Tongue - Brotherly Love04 Lost And Found - Whiskey Mac05 On a Plane to Nowhere - Barracade06 Leave A Little Love - Candlewick Green07 Lady Pearl - Currant Kraze08 On The Run - Scorched Earth09 I Want To Be Where You Are - Scarecrow10 Telltale - Patches11 Rusty Hands Of Time - Peter Doyle12. A Little Thing Like Love - River13 Dreams Are Ten a Penny - John Kincade14 In the Morning - Bitter Almond15 Every Little Move She Makes - White Plains16 Schoolgirl Notion - Janie & The Marlettes17 Here Comes That Rainy Day Feeling Again - Fortunes18 Yellow Bird (Have You No Home) - Design19 Clovelly - Roger Holman & Simon May20 I Need Your Everlasting Love - Liberty Helm21 Bye Goodbye - Silver Lining22 It's Getting Sweeter All The Time - Shorty23 Caterpillar - Cold Fly24 This Is My Life - Wei Wei Wong
https://acerecords.co.uk/chip-shop-pop
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:31 (six months ago)
Man not EVERYTHING there is obscure as such, I know I've heard "Here Comes That Rainy Day Feeling Again" a few times -- think it was on a Have a Nice Day volume.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:47 (six months ago)
(Nothing against Bob, obv! But sometimes the ad copy needs to mellow. :-D )
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:48 (six months ago)
Looks good. I know the Kincade track, and I recognise the names of a few others that I inherited and sold on.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 17:52 (six months ago)
This looks very up my street. Reminds me of the britgum canon, such as it is, although Bob's compilation extends further in scope and time. Give how toytown pop has been anthologised at least twice it's nice to see its evolution into high quality, similarly somewhat faceless/session musician-heavy but less whimsical 70s pop get more of an outlet.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 18:39 (six months ago)
I've checked, and 12 of these 24 have passed through my hands, selling for a total of £43.80. So if I get the CD, I'm quids in!
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 23:02 (six months ago)
I really didn't expect to get blown away by a compilation of 60's beat pop in 2025 - figured I'd long exhausted that genre's best stuff - but Liverpool Sunset, the CD only comp Stanley brought out earlier this year, is really strong stuff. Doubly surprised to find my favourite track on it is by Billy Fury:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMA7x8I-YJ0
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 7 September 2025 17:59 (two months ago)
I really didn't expect to get blown away by a compilation of 60's beat pop in 2025 - figured I'd long exhausted that genre's best stuff - but Liverpool Sunset, the CD only comp Stanley brought out earlier this year, is really strong stuff. Doubly surprised to find my favourite track on it is by Billy Fury:📹
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Why can I hear the 5th Dimension singing this in my mind?
― Dumpy's Rusty Nuts Gimmick Poster (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 7 September 2025 19:19 (two months ago)
I thought it would be about "Halfway to Paradise."
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 September 2025 01:49 (two months ago)
"Safe In My Garden - American Pop In the Shadows 1967-1972" will be released 31.10.2025 🙏Peace and love in late 60s America did not come without parallel feelings of fear and confusion about the social situation – specifically about Vietnam. “Safe In My Garden” is the latest Ace compilation in an acclaimed series compiled by Bob Stanley – it’s a companion piece to the much-praised “State Of The Union (The American Dream In Crisis 1967 – 1973” Ace CDCHD 1533/XXQLP2 057 2018).The music on “Safe In My Garden” is harmony-laden, beautifully produced soft rock. Sunshine pop, even - a melodic, innovative style of American music that grew in the mid-60s out of the folk and surf scenes, exemplified the Beach Boys and the Mamas and Papas. You will hear orchestral arrangements, and soft boy-girl vocals. But it wasn’t made in isolation from what was going on in the outside world. There are clouds and minor chords, plenty of melancholy in those harmonies.“Safe In My Garden” includes songs of escape (Mark Eric’s ‘Move With The Dawn’, the Groop’s ‘A Famous Myth’), loss (the Eighth Day’s ‘How Can I Stop Loving You’, the New Colony Six’s ‘Prairie Grey’), dreamscapes (Tommy James and the Shondells’ ‘She’, Nancy Priddy’s ‘You’ve Come This Way Before’), rebirth (Smokey and his Sister’s ‘Creators Of Rain’), a simpler world (the Free Design’s ‘My Brother Woody’) and a philosophically sounder future (Chad & Jeremy’s ‘The Ark’, Best of Friends’ ‘Summer Sound’).It contains some surprisingly dark messages paired with beautiful melodies, as well as songs of hope. Thousands of young musicians in cities, suburbs and small towns across the States from the mid to late 60s spent their mornings hiding from the mailman, dreading the draft. This is the Sound of Young America in the late 60s, keeping its fingers crossed.1. ALWAYS YOU - THE SUNDOWNERS LP Decca DL 75036 (1969) 2.582. MOVE WITH THE DAWN - MARK ERIC LP Revue RS 7210 (1969) 2.433. SHE - TOMMY JAMES AND THE SHONDELLS Roulette R-7066 (1969) 2.104. A FAMOUS MYTH - THE GROOP Bell 800 (1969) 2.245. DREAMIN' IN THE SHADE (DOWN IN L.A.) - BREWER & SHIPLEY LP A&M SP 4154 (1968) 2.116. I DON'T THINK I KNOW HER - TEE & CARA LP United Artists UAS 6683 (1968) 2.467. KNOCK ON WOOD - HARPERS BIZARRE LP Warner Bros., Seven Arts WS 1784 (1969) 2.098. THE VISIT (SHE WAS HERE) - THE CYRKLE Columbia 4-43965 (1967) 2.189. I SEE IT NOW - FARGO LP RCA LSP-4178 (1969) 2.2510. SUMMER SOUND - BEST OF FRIENDS LP Quartin LP-RSQ-4 (1971) 2.5011. A MOMENT OF BEING WITH YOU - THE CRITTERS LP Project 3 Total Sound PR 4001 SD (1968) 2.4412. BLIGHT - THE MILLENNIUM 3-CD Sundazed Music SC 11102 (2001) 2.52*13. JILL - GARY LEWIS AND THE PLAYBOYS Liberty 55985 (1967) 2.1814. I CAN SEE ONLY YOU - ROGER NICHOLS AND THE SMALL CIRCLE OF FRIENDS LP A&M SP 4139 (1968) 2.5215. LITTLE DREAMS - THE NEW WAVE LP Canterbury CLPS 1501 (1967) 2.2416. MY BROTHER WOODY - THE FREE DESIGN LP Project 3 Total Sound PR 5019 SD (1967) 2.3217. CHRISTINA'S WORLD - NANCY PRIDDY LP Dot DLP 25893 (1968) 2.4218. THE ARK - CHAD & JEREMY LP Columbia CS 9699 (1968) 4.5219. CREATORS OF RAIN - SMOKEY AND HIS SISTER Columbia 4-43995 (1967) 2.4220. HOW CAN I STOP LOVING YOU - THE EIGHTH DAY LP Kapp KS 3554 (1968) 2.4621. LOVE IS A RAINY SUNDAY - LOVE GENERATION LP Imperial LP-12408 (1968) 2.4022. SPRINGTIME MEADOWS - THE SUNSHINE COMPANY LP Imperial LP-12399 (1968) 4.2723. THE WORD IS LOVE - THOMAS AND RICHARD FROST Imperial 66405 (1969) 2.4224. PRAIRIE GREY - NEW COLONY SIX LP Mercury SR 61228 (1969) 2.43
Peace and love in late 60s America did not come without parallel feelings of fear and confusion about the social situation – specifically about Vietnam. “Safe In My Garden” is the latest Ace compilation in an acclaimed series compiled by Bob Stanley – it’s a companion piece to the much-praised “State Of The Union (The American Dream In Crisis 1967 – 1973” Ace CDCHD 1533/XXQLP2 057 2018).
The music on “Safe In My Garden” is harmony-laden, beautifully produced soft rock. Sunshine pop, even - a melodic, innovative style of American music that grew in the mid-60s out of the folk and surf scenes, exemplified the Beach Boys and the Mamas and Papas. You will hear orchestral arrangements, and soft boy-girl vocals. But it wasn’t made in isolation from what was going on in the outside world. There are clouds and minor chords, plenty of melancholy in those harmonies.
“Safe In My Garden” includes songs of escape (Mark Eric’s ‘Move With The Dawn’, the Groop’s ‘A Famous Myth’), loss (the Eighth Day’s ‘How Can I Stop Loving You’, the New Colony Six’s ‘Prairie Grey’), dreamscapes (Tommy James and the Shondells’ ‘She’, Nancy Priddy’s ‘You’ve Come This Way Before’), rebirth (Smokey and his Sister’s ‘Creators Of Rain’), a simpler world (the Free Design’s ‘My Brother Woody’) and a philosophically sounder future (Chad & Jeremy’s ‘The Ark’, Best of Friends’ ‘Summer Sound’).
It contains some surprisingly dark messages paired with beautiful melodies, as well as songs of hope. Thousands of young musicians in cities, suburbs and small towns across the States from the mid to late 60s spent their mornings hiding from the mailman, dreading the draft. This is the Sound of Young America in the late 60s, keeping its fingers crossed.
1. ALWAYS YOU - THE SUNDOWNERS LP Decca DL 75036 (1969) 2.582. MOVE WITH THE DAWN - MARK ERIC LP Revue RS 7210 (1969) 2.433. SHE - TOMMY JAMES AND THE SHONDELLS Roulette R-7066 (1969) 2.104. A FAMOUS MYTH - THE GROOP Bell 800 (1969) 2.245. DREAMIN' IN THE SHADE (DOWN IN L.A.) - BREWER & SHIPLEY LP A&M SP 4154 (1968) 2.116. I DON'T THINK I KNOW HER - TEE & CARA LP United Artists UAS 6683 (1968) 2.467. KNOCK ON WOOD - HARPERS BIZARRE LP Warner Bros., Seven Arts WS 1784 (1969) 2.098. THE VISIT (SHE WAS HERE) - THE CYRKLE Columbia 4-43965 (1967) 2.189. I SEE IT NOW - FARGO LP RCA LSP-4178 (1969) 2.2510. SUMMER SOUND - BEST OF FRIENDS LP Quartin LP-RSQ-4 (1971) 2.5011. A MOMENT OF BEING WITH YOU - THE CRITTERS LP Project 3 Total Sound PR 4001 SD (1968) 2.4412. BLIGHT - THE MILLENNIUM 3-CD Sundazed Music SC 11102 (2001) 2.52*13. JILL - GARY LEWIS AND THE PLAYBOYS Liberty 55985 (1967) 2.1814. I CAN SEE ONLY YOU - ROGER NICHOLS AND THE SMALL CIRCLE OF FRIENDS LP A&M SP 4139 (1968) 2.5215. LITTLE DREAMS - THE NEW WAVE LP Canterbury CLPS 1501 (1967) 2.2416. MY BROTHER WOODY - THE FREE DESIGN LP Project 3 Total Sound PR 5019 SD (1967) 2.3217. CHRISTINA'S WORLD - NANCY PRIDDY LP Dot DLP 25893 (1968) 2.4218. THE ARK - CHAD & JEREMY LP Columbia CS 9699 (1968) 4.5219. CREATORS OF RAIN - SMOKEY AND HIS SISTER Columbia 4-43995 (1967) 2.4220. HOW CAN I STOP LOVING YOU - THE EIGHTH DAY LP Kapp KS 3554 (1968) 2.4621. LOVE IS A RAINY SUNDAY - LOVE GENERATION LP Imperial LP-12408 (1968) 2.4022. SPRINGTIME MEADOWS - THE SUNSHINE COMPANY LP Imperial LP-12399 (1968) 4.2723. THE WORD IS LOVE - THOMAS AND RICHARD FROST Imperial 66405 (1969) 2.4224. PRAIRIE GREY - NEW COLONY SIX LP Mercury SR 61228 (1969) 2.43
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 September 2025 20:11 (two months ago)
Final Boss Material -- Freddie & The Dreamers box over at Cherry Red: https://www.cherryred.co.uk/freddie-and-the-dreamers-you-were-made-for-me-the-complete-recordings-1963-1970-5cd
• The complete recordings by Manchester beat group Freddie And The Dreamers for EMI in the 1960s compiled and annotated by respected author and pop historian Bob Stanley of St. Etienne.• Includes the UK Top 10 hits ‘If You Want To Make A Fool Of Somebody’ (#3), ‘I’m Tellin’ You Now’ (#2), ‘You Were Made For Me’ (#3) and ‘I Understand’ (#5) and all their albums including their UK Top 5 self-titled debut.• The band were also loved in the USA where they were part of the “British Invasion”, ‘I’m Tellin’ You Now’ topped The Billboard Hot 100 and they reached the Top 20 with ‘Do The Freddie’.• Two albums, Sing-Along Party (1965) and what Bob Stanley refers to as a “psychedelic pop primer for kids” Oliver In The Overworld (1970) are issued on CD for the first time plus another makes its debut on CD in the UK, King Freddie And His Dreaming Knights (1967).Bob Stanley writes in the the box's booklet notes that:"Freddie & The Dreamers were the jokers in the pack of the British beat boom, or what America knew as the British Invasion. They were a great visual act and, especially, a conduit for children who may have loved The Beatles too but wanted someone of their own. TV shows like Crackerjack and Blue Peter were happy to invite them on, and gave them a ready-made audience. The Monkees may have been tagged the Pre-Fab Four, but there’s little doubt some of their zaniness sprung from the on-stage antics of Freddie Garrity and the group’s candy beat, proto-bubblegum music."
• Includes the UK Top 10 hits ‘If You Want To Make A Fool Of Somebody’ (#3), ‘I’m Tellin’ You Now’ (#2), ‘You Were Made For Me’ (#3) and ‘I Understand’ (#5) and all their albums including their UK Top 5 self-titled debut.
• The band were also loved in the USA where they were part of the “British Invasion”, ‘I’m Tellin’ You Now’ topped The Billboard Hot 100 and they reached the Top 20 with ‘Do The Freddie’.
• Two albums, Sing-Along Party (1965) and what Bob Stanley refers to as a “psychedelic pop primer for kids” Oliver In The Overworld (1970) are issued on CD for the first time plus another makes its debut on CD in the UK, King Freddie And His Dreaming Knights (1967).
Bob Stanley writes in the the box's booklet notes that:
"Freddie & The Dreamers were the jokers in the pack of the British beat boom, or what America knew as the British Invasion. They were a great visual act and, especially, a conduit for children who may have loved The Beatles too but wanted someone of their own. TV shows like Crackerjack and Blue Peter were happy to invite them on, and gave them a ready-made audience. The Monkees may have been tagged the Pre-Fab Four, but there’s little doubt some of their zaniness sprung from the on-stage antics of Freddie Garrity and the group’s candy beat, proto-bubblegum music."
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 November 2025 20:24 (three weeks ago)
Drink This It’ll Make You Sleep.
Scariest song title ever!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 01:02 (two weeks ago)
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJJ1HyBVXWvPfp46zDFPz6d8Lng7RGwPOGK8zQDLuI8y9Uz4PzIZUZrbKO&s=10
Kelsey Grammer Freddie Garrity looks like a motherfucker with some dark secrets
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 03:23 (two weeks ago)
Their 1978 album has one of the most baffling, not to say unfortunate, sleeves of the age
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 08:50 (two weeks ago)
Stanley on patreon the other day was praising a Freddie & The Dreamers track and then went "or maybe I just have stockholm syndrome", explaining he was working on this box. It kinda reminds me of when one of the movie critics I follow falls into some rabbit hole of cinephilia and ends up reviewing twenty films made by some mediocre journeyman trying to tease out if there's something special there. Truly fascinating to see someone attempt that with Freddie & The Dreamers but the complete recordings...I don't think I can handle that.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 11:35 (two weeks ago)
I would recommend the CBS version of the "Oliver in the Overworld" soundtrack - it's not in this box but the original version is.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 13:11 (two weeks ago)
Oh wow
https://i.discogs.com/JZYGxy5-E0hPrQev52r5P94xPDaV8n9mR1D_m1d8p6g/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:576/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTI4Nzky/MjUtMTQ4NTYwNDY5/MC05NDcwLmpwZWc.jpeg
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 November 2025 19:12 (two weeks ago)
I mean, I love Bob to the moon and back, but Freddie & The Dreamers? Really?
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 4 November 2025 22:48 (two weeks ago)
I'm reminded of a moment years ago when a friend of mine told me that a friend of his had told him he looked like the guitarist of Freddie & the Dreamers. "I don't see it at all," said my friend.
In fact, he was the spitting image of Freddie Garrity himself, and I found it funny that he was unable to see that the message got garbled and obviously his friend meant that he looked like Freddie.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 01:28 (two weeks ago)
what exactly does "compiled by" mean in the context of "the complete recordings" ?
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 03:38 (two weeks ago)
i pretty much have time for any british invasion band's (1) 1967-ish psychedelic cash-in record and/or (2) 1970-ish rootsy sepia-sleeved record. the '67 and '70 freddie records are hard to come by. whether they offer anything interesting, i have no idea, but all the research i've done (admittedly not much) has indicated no
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 03:47 (two weeks ago)
XP I think it's just a catch-all for producing/cheerleading/instigating/realizing the project.
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 November 2025 03:49 (two weeks ago)
Even for "complete recordings" there are decisions to be made regarding the presentation and ordering of the material, annotations, etc.
― visiting, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 04:35 (two weeks ago)
When I read Yeah Yeah Yeah: The Story of Pop Music, I made a Spotify playlist of every song mentioned, if anyone wants to give it a go. It took me two years to listen to it as my go-to “I don’t know what to listen to” walk the dog playlist
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3seDeDLhycytZX5WxUNvkl?si=k0mtofByTIqka1fxtTvWBw&pi=Y9gDsx0HTaWhB
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 08:22 (two weeks ago)
Nice, thanks! Once upon a time I started a Spotify playlist called Stanley Sez, and was meant to include all of the more obscure/unexpected songs that he's championed over the years, in liner notes, reviews, blog entries, etc. A daunting list, as you can imagine! I bailed not too long after I started, but one day...
― henry s, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 14:12 (two weeks ago)
Scrolling to the bottom of the 3145 song playlist to see what Spotify suggests was left out. Waterloo Sunset, lol.
― bendy, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 15:52 (two weeks ago)
lool!
― Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 November 2025 23:27 (one week ago)
I mentioned, some years ago, the song "Drink this up, it'll help you sleep" from the first F&TD album, to Bob. I couldn't bring myself to listen to it, seeing as how that's the creepiest song title I've ever seen.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 18 November 2025 00:04 (six days ago)