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blazing world (blazingworld), Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:53 (eighteen years ago)

Here's what I like so far this year:

2007
Bomshel – Bomshel (Curb)
John Anderson – Easy Money (Warner Bros./Raybaw)
The Greencards – Viridian (Dualtone)
Daryle Singletary – Straight From The Heart (Shanachie)
John Waite – Downtown—Journey Of A Heart (No Brakes/Rounder)
Bill Kirchen – Hammer Of The Honky-Tonk Gods (Proper)

John Waite's CD counts as country since it's on Rounder and features an Alison Krauss duet. Also, I really like the following metal album from France, which somebody on the metal ILM sandbox thread said sounds country to them, though I'm not completely sure why they say that; maybe the claimant was from England and never heard country before, but I need to go back and listen to it in a country context. Sounded more like Noir Desir to me, so maybe they meant gothabilly (which could conceivably count as country, for its billy-goat part)?:

Phazm – Antebellum Death ‘N Roll (Osmose Productions)

xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 12:01 (eighteen years ago)

And oh yeah, the single on the new John Anderson album, "If Her Lovin' Don't Kill Me," strikes me as one of its least consequential tracks. My favorites so far are "Weeds," "Brown Liquor," "Easy Money" (which says making music for a living is a hard way to make easy money), "Funky Country," the extremely mysterious "Bonnie Blue" (seems to be about an interracial relationship, or maybe the South?) amd "Something To Drink About," though not necessarily in that order.

Also, there's a new Travis Tritt Very Best Of comp on my shelf that looks good, but I haven't put it on yet. And also, last week in Houston I bought the following '90s CDs in a 20% off Half-Price Books sale:

Faith Hill Faith, 1998, $2.40: More mush than her three later albums (unless I missed one), but two great singles on it ("This Kiss," "The Secret Of Life"), and I also like "Better Days" on it a lot. The rest is sometimes okay, sometimes unbearable. You can hear her trying plenty of r&b melisma, which is kind of interesting when it's not boring. She also sings songs by Sherly Crow and Aldo Nova.

Little Texas, Kick A Little, 1994, $1.80: "Amy's Back In Austin" is still great, "Redneck Like Me" is semi-tough Southern rock," "I'd Hold On To Her" is half as good as an '80s .38 Special album track, the rest is kinda boring me so far, but who knows.

Little Texas, Big Time, 1993, $0.90: Didn't play this yet.

Ronnie Milsap, Greatest Hits, 1988, $1.80: Not really his greatest hits at all, but only nine songs, so relatively painless. Haven't noticed any great ones yet, but it's all okay. "Daydreams About Night Things" not as good as Loretta's version. Overall album not as good as the album of new stuff he put out in 2006.

Kim Richey, Bitter Sweet, 1997: $1.80: A keeper. Previously I only owned her best-of CD. "Lonesome Side Of Town" on now, and it sounds wonderful, though "I Know" with the Tom Petty-like guitar riff might be my favorite so far. She's easily one of my favorite alt-country/Americana singers -- way more listenable than Lucinda Wiliams. But I'm not sure that I can quite formulate why just yet.

Pam Tills, Greatest Hits, 1997: $1.80: Includes the three by her I really remember liking when they were new ("Shake The Sugar Tree," the proto-Ricky Martin ""My Vida Loca," the great Egyptian-walking "Cleopatra, Queen of Denial"), and only 11 tracks compared to the more unweildy 16 on her 2002 Country Legends, so maybe more user-friendly though I just noticed that the longer comp has a song called "Betty's Got a Bass Boat" that's not on the shorter one so I should go back and listen to that before I settle. (Longer one also has a track called "Mandolin Rain," so I'll listen to that too.)

Rick Trevino, Rick Trevino, 1994, $1.80. Damn he's baby-faced on the cover. All the okay English-language tracks on this one seem to show up on his later Super Hits which also has the far superior Mellencampish "Bobbie Ann Mason," so maybe the debut's not worth hanging on to. What makes it kinda intersting though is the two Spanish-language tejanos (which are prettily sung, though fairly generic) at the end. There was another Trevino album at Half Price from a year or two later with no Spanish tracks, so I'm wondering whether Columbia gave up quick on the idea of him crossing over to the regional Mexican charts. (Emilio was crossing the other way around the same time, right?) A subject for future research, maybe.

(Various), Country Dance Mixes, 1993, $1.80: Best find here, probably. Nine dancefloor (and often borderline disco-fied) remixes of Confederate Railroad, Ray Kennedy, and John Michael Montgomery tracks. The Railroad ones I had already, and they're great, but the rest are pretty awesome too, especially "All She Ever Wants Is More" by Kennedy and "Life's A Dance" by Montgomery, though I've never given either artist a moment of thought before. Apparently Kennedy and Brad Smith produced all the remixes here except the two Railroad ones. I wonder if they sold this at linedance clubs, or what. The liner notes also call it "really cool headphone music, man." Nifty.

xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

And oh yeah, I also am really liking the token country track "Pop Tailgate....Woooooooo!!!" on the 2004 Chingo Bling album The Tamale Kingpin that Matt Cibula will be happy to hear I splurged $6.40 at Half-Price (most expensive CD I bought on vacation!) The rest of the album is pretty great too; faves so far include "Osama!! Who Got The Keys To My Humma??," "Waca, Waoka, Wooka," "Chingo 4 President", and maybe "F*** A Major Label" plus the more Tex-Mexy/less hip-hoppy stuff toward the start and end. Definitely way more funny than Pitbull. In fact, funnier than just about anybody. (Now I kinda wish I'd picked up his mixtape CD that was there, too.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

I AM VINDICATED

and yeah that mextape is pretty good, my #10 album of 2006 but i listen to it a lot more than most of my higher pickxs

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

howdy, everybody.

just got the two Farmer Jason CDs--that's Jason Ringenberg on the tractor on his farm west of Nashville. Good fun for the kids with Todd Snider guesting on a couple and Fats Kaplin guiding the proceedings. My favorite so far on the new one, "Rockin' in the Forest w/ Farmer J.," is "Opossum in a Pocket." Almost as good as his Scorchers stuff!

I'm a bit let down by the John Anderson record--some of that material is blehh. However, "Brown Liquor" is just about my favorite song of the moment by anyone, great stuttering a la Tillis (Mel).

And the Viridians' record is fine, but after the title track, which is just incredibly addictive, nothing quite matches it.

Don turned me onto the George Soulé record "Take a Ride," and it's country-soul, they say. Could've been fleshed out a bit more, and there are times when you wish George could've built a touch more drama into his vocals--and for my money, he sings better than 99% of all the people who are hailed as "country-soul" like Dan Penn, Eddie Hinton, et al; in fact, he's in a different league altogether--but it's good, and it says something that he does best with a song not his at all, on a record by a "neglected songwriter": Greg Cartwright's "Wait and See," a classic pop-gospel ballad in 6/8.

Tony Furtado's "Thirteen" is too mild for its own good, but he does a nice cover of "Won't Get Fooled Again," and it's pleasant enough as neo-folkie-bluegrass.

Southern Culture on the Skids show some brains in their covers on their new "Plays Countrypolitan Hits." Decent enough on "Muswell Hillbillies" and the Byrds' hoary "Have You Seen Her Face," but they don't bring much to anything, and they're a one-joke band, seems to me.

for an eloquent defense of Lucinda Williams, that doesn't totally convince me, Bill Friskics-Warren in the new No Depression. He thinks she's a great singer, I don't, but it's a good piece that made me, at least, re-think her. The Hal Willner production on her new one ought to be something...new. But I haven't heard it ("West") yet.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Happy New Year all!

I've been enjoying "Heartbreaker's Hall Of Fame" (although I'm not absolutely sure about the placement of that apostrophe, surely the Hall of Fame would belong to more than just one heartbreaker?) by Sunny Sweeney, which is a CDbaby thing, and doesn't appear to have come out on any kind of label. Jim Lauderdale guests on one song and wrote a few others. SS herself has an oddly appealing voice, considering how piercing it is. I'm not making a very good job of selling this, am I? Anyway, I've been enjoying it.

I went back to Holland while ILx was down and returned with another haul of delightfully cheap country vinyl. I now have more Susan Raye records than:
(a) I ever thought I'd even see and
(b) any sane human could ever need.

Bless those Dutch and their ways.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

Yay, I'm back.

xhuxk, is there a release date for the John Anderson? I was wondering if Raybaw had dropped him since nothing's been heard since "If Her Lovin' Don't Kill Me" (which flirted with my Nashville Scene ballot) sadly flopped.

And is the Tritt best-of a single or double?

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

new John Anderson album!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

*is there a release date for the John Anderson?


thomas, the date I have is May 15. apparently there's also a big & rich book, "all access," set for around the same time.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

MAY 15?!?!

Oh, that hurts. I've clearly gotta find my way on someone's promo list...

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

Every time I see Chingo Bling on mun2, I think he's gonna be as funny as the first Funkdoobiest album and I should go buy his CD one of these days. But that first song I heard from him (the parody of 50 Cent's "Candy Shop") was just wretched. Is the album that much better?

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

well i think so, that 50 thing was kinda half-assed compared with some of his other stuff. (the mextape has a very gross parody of "shoulder lean", but most of his best work isn't parody songs at all.) but maybe you just dont like that kind of humor, in which case...well, i like it anyway.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of promos--have any been sent out yet for the new Lee Ann Womack, Gary Allen or Tim McGraw albums?

And since the 2006 thread died prematurely, anyone up for posting their '06 ballots, lists, etc. here?

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Friday, 5 January 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

The Gary Allan's just a hits record, I believe.

Anyone heard a release date for the McGraw? For that matter, how's the single? I heard the video was supposed to premiere at 12:01am 1/1/07, but since stupid TimeWarner bumped CMT to the digital line-up, I missed it.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 5 January 2007 00:10 (eighteen years ago)

Per Ramon's request (and perhaps others will follow suit):

Chuck Eddy’s 2006 Nashville Scene Ballot

TOP 10 COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2006
1. Montgomery Gentry – Some People Change ( Columbia )
2. Toby Keith – White Trash With Money (Show Dog Nashville/Universal)
3, Victory Brothers – Kowboyz De Loz Angeleez (victorybrothers.net)
4. Dale Watson – Whiskey Or God (Palo Duro)
5. Rodney Atkins – If You’re Going Through Hell (Curb)
6. Eric Church – Sinners Like Me (EMI)
7. Trent Willmon – A Little More Livin’ ( Columbia )
8. Keith Urban – Love, Pain & The Whole Crazy Thing (EMI/Capitol)
9. (Various) – She Was Country When Country Wasn’t Cool: A Tribute To Barbara Mandrell (Sony BMG/BNA)
10. Shooter Jennings – Electric Rodeo (Universal South)

TOP 10 COUNTRY SINGLES (OR TRACKS OR WHATEVER) OF 2006
1 Carrie Underwood – “Before He Cheats” (Arista)
2 Rodney Atkins – “Cleaning This Gun (Come On In Boy)” (Curb)
3. Trent Willmon – “Surprise” ( Columbia )
4. Samantha Jo – “Time For Summer” (samanthajomartin.com)
5 Shooter Jennings – “Hair of the Dog” (Universal South)
6. Ronnie Milsap – “Somewhere Dry” (RCA)
7. Bomshel – “Bomshel Stomp” (Curb)
8. Alan Jackson – “The Fire Fly's Song” (Arista Nashville )
9. Toby Keith – Get Drunk And Be Somebody” (Show Dog Nashville/Universal)
10, Redhill – “All Night Long” (redhillrocks.com)

TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2006
1. The Kentucky Headhunters – Flying Under The Radar (CBUJ)
2. Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys – Legends Of Country Music (Columbia/Legacy)
3. Little Feat – The Best Of (Warner Bros./Rhino)
4. (Various) – Classic Country: Sweet Country Ballads (Time Life)
5. Dean Martin – Swingin’ Down Yonder (Collector’s Choice/EMI)

COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2006
1. Toby Keith
2. Eddie Montgomery
3. Troy Gentry

COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2006
1. Carrie Underwood
2. Natalie Maines
3. Shannon Brown

COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST DUOS. TRIOS, OR GROUPS OF 2006
1. Montgomery Gentry
2. Victory Brothers
3. Bomshel

COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2006
1. Victory Brothers
2. Bomshel
3. Eric Church

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 5 January 2007 02:59 (eighteen years ago)

mine, they're lame

ALBUMS
1. Jessi Colter, Out of the Ashes (Shout Factory)
2. Casey Driessen, 3-D (Sugar Hill)
3. Terrance Simien and the Zydeco Experience, Across the Parish
Line (Aim)
4. Dixie Chicks, Taking the Long Way (Open Wide/Columbia)
5. Darrell Scott, The Invisible Man (Full Light)
6. Intocable, Crossroads: Cruce de Caminos (EMI Latin)
7. Chris Knight, Enough Rope (Drifter's Church)
8. Marty Stuart and His Fabulous Superlatives, Live at the Ryman
(Superlatone/Universal South)
9. Allison Moorer, Getting Somewhere (Sugar Hill)
10. Bruce Springsteen, The Seeger Sessions (Columbia)

SINGLES
1. Los Tigres del Norte, "Ingratitud"
2. Gary Allan, "Life Ain't Always Beautiful"
3. Carrie Underwood, "Before He Cheats"
4. The Wreckers, "Leave the Pieces"
5. Dixie Chicks, "Easy Silence"
6. Eric Church, "Two Pink Lines"
7. George Strait, "It Just Comes Natural"
8. Allison Moorer, "Fairweather"
9.Intocable, "Por Ella (Poco a Poco)"
10. Dixie Chicks, "Not Ready to Make Nice"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:51 (eighteen years ago)

Roy Kasten's 2006 Nashville Scene Ballot

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2006:

1. Dixie Chicks - The Long Way Around - Sony
2. Johnny Cash - American V: A Hundred Highways - American
3. Rosanne Cash - Black Cadillac - Capitol
4. Solomon Burke - Nashville - Shout Factory!
5. The Hacienda Brothers - What's Wrong With Right - Palo Duro
6. Jessi Colter - Out of the Ashes - Shout Factory!
7. Vince Gill - These Days - MCA
8. Todd Snider - The Devil You Know - New Door
9. Various Artists – She Was Country When Country Wasn’t Cool - Sony
10. The Wreckers - Stand Still Look Pretty - Maverick

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2006:

1. Dixie Chicks - I'm Not Ready To Make Nice
2. Rodney Akins - If You're Going through Hell
3. Dierks Bentley - Settle For a Slow Down
4. Amelia White - Black Doves
5. Bob Dylan - Working Man Blues #2
6. George Strait - Give It Away
7. Gary Allan - Life Ain't Always Beautiful
8. Marit Larsen - Only a Fool
9. Hacienda Brothers - What's Wrong With Right - Palo Duro
10. Ashley Monroe - Satisfied

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 5 January 2007 04:32 (eighteen years ago)

Bill Friskics-Warren says Womack has beeen pushed back and no advances are to be had. The first single sux.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 5 January 2007 04:39 (eighteen years ago)

Albums '06

1. Pat Green- Cannonball
2. Alan Jackson- Like Red From a Rose
3. Toby Keith- White Trash With Money
4. Todd Snider- The Devil You Know
5. Keith Urban- Love, Pain...
6. Dixie Chicks- Long Way Around
7. Montgomery Gentry- Some People Change
8. Sugarland- Enjoy the Ride
9. Vince Gill- These Days
10. Rodney Atkins- If You're Going Through Hell

Tracks

1. Keith Urban- Once In a Lifetime
2. Todd Snider- Looking For a Job
3. Pat Green- Wayback Texas
4. Montgomery Gentry- Hey Country
5. Wreckers- Leave the Pieces
6. Toby Keith- Get Drunk & Be Somebody
7. Alan Jackson- Like Red on a Rose
8. Sugarland- Settlin'
9. Carrie Underwood- Before He Cheats
10. Dixie Chicks- Not Ready to Make Nice

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Friday, 5 January 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

some of you might've seen this already, but:


TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2006:

1. Alan Jackson, Like Red on a Rose (Arista Nashville)
2. Various Artists, She Was Country When Country Wasn’t Cool: A Tribute to Barbara Mandrell (BNA)
3. The Wreckers, The Wreckers (Maverick)
4. Jamey Johnson, The Dollar (BNA)
5. Hacienda Brothers, What’s Wrong with Right (Proper American)
6. Jessi Colter, Out of the Ashes (Shout! Factory)
7. Darryl Worley, Here and Now (903 Music)
8. Blaine Larsen, Rockin’ You Tonight (BNA/Giantslayer)
9. Keith Urban, Love, pain & the whole crazy thing (Capitol)
10. Montgomery Gentry, Some People Change (Columbia Nashville)

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2006:

1. Trent Willmon, "Surprise"
2. Jessi Colter, "Starman"
3. Dierks Bentley, "Every Mile a Memory"
4. Alan Jackson, "The Fire Fly's Song"
5. Keith Urban, "Once in a Lifetime"
6. Darryl Worley, "I Just Came Back from a War"
7. Marit Larsen, "Only a Fool"
8. Howard Tate, "Louisiana 1927"
9. Carrie Underwood, "Before He Cheats"
10. The Wreckers, "Leave the Pieces"

TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2006:

1. Willie Nelson, The Complete Atlantic Sessions (Atlantic/Rhino)
2. Tony Joe White, Swamp Music: The Complete Monument Recordings (Rhino)
3. Terry Manning, Home Sweet Home (Sunbeam)
4. James Talley, Got No Bread, No Milk, No Money, But We Sure Got A Lot Of Love: 30th Anniversary Edition (Cimarron)
5. Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys, Legends of Country Music (Columbia/Legacy)

6. Tom T. Hall, The Definitive Collection (Hip-O)

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

whoops, did I get that wrong in the ballot? The Wreckers, Stand Still-Look Pretty. must've been mesmerized by their prettiness!

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Some Genres Change
Frank Kogan's Country Critics Ballot, 2006

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2006:

1. Marit Larsen "Only A Fool" (EMI)
2. Carrie Underwood "Before He Cheats" (Arista)
3. Taylor Swift "Tim McGraw" (Big Machine)
4. Eric Church "How 'Bout You" (Capitol)
5. Ashley Monroe "Satisfied" (Columbia)
6. Dierks Bentley "Settle For A Slowdown" (Capitol)
7. The Dixie Chicks "Not Ready To Make Nice" (Sony)
8. LeAnn Rimes "And It Feels Like" (Curb)
9. Toby Keith "A Little Too Late" (Show Dog/Universal)
10. Little Big Town "Good As Gone" (Equity)

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2006:

1. Taylor Swift - Taylor Swift (Big Machine)
2. Various Artists - Totally Country Vol. 5 (Sony BMG)
3. Eric Church - Sinners Like Me Capitol)
4. Alan Jackson - Like Red On A Rose (Arista Nashville)
5. Toby Keith - White Tra$h With Money (Show Dog/Universal)
6. The Wreckers - Stand Still, Look Pretty (Maverick)
7. Montgomery Gentry - Some People Change (Columbia)
8. Shooter Jennings - Electric Rodeo (Universal)
9. The Dixie Chicks - Taking The Long Way (Sony)
10. Jessi Colter - Out Of The Ashes (Shout! Factory)

TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2006:

1. Various Artists - Classic Country: Sweet Country Ballads (Time Life)
2. Todd Snider - That Was Me: 1994 - 1998 (Hip-O/Universal)

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2006:

1. Alan Jackson
2. Toby Keith
3. Dierks Bentley

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2006:

1. Natalie Maines
2. Taylor Swift
3. Julie Roberts

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST SONGWRITERS OF 2006:

1. Taylor Swift
2. Liz Rose
3. Toby Keith

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST DUOS, TRIOS, OR GROUPS OF 2006:

1. Montgomery Gentry
2. The Dixie Chicks
3. The Wreckers

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST INSTRUMENTALISTS OF 2006:

1. Mark Wright
(Gonna keep voting for this guy until you add a producers category)

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2006:

1. Taylor Swift
2. Eric Church
3. Jace Everett

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST OVERALL ACTS OF 2006:

1. Taylor Swift
2. Eric Church
3. Alan Jackson

I'm fascinated by the question "What is country?" but at the same time it's not my question, since I've never thought for a moment that I myself am country. So my ballot is loose-limbed and ready to dance around the question, without caring about the answer. Germany's entry in the Eurovision contest was Texas Lightning's "No No Never," a country song, or more accurately a good little Europop tune dressed up in country hats. Is that country? It's the country of someone's imagination, would have made my list somewhere around 35 or 40, if I'd gone that long. My number one is by Marit Larsen, a playful, impish Norwegian ex-teenpopper, now a singer-songwriter who's bookish and explores the complexities of her own mind, the small self-torments that magnify and confuse. And for her one and only country song she knocks out this little hoedown that's light as angel food cake, but it's cake that's spiked with a bit of hard rum. And it's perfect and it's wonderful. Would the American country audience be interested if they heard it? Won't happen, but maybe Marit's what they're waiting for; because they've embraced the Wreckers, consisting of another two ex-teenpoppers, one of 'em, Michelle Branch, being the woman who sang modern teen confessional's first big hit in 2001. Despite her confessional sound, Michelle never had anything particularly interesting to confess-she's no secretly brilliant Ashlee-and on the page the Wreckers' lyrics are weepy and empty. But heard through the Wreckers' harmonies, the songs have the same beautiful teenpop ache as always, now welcomed in country. And girly teen Taylor Swift may be the genre's new master, creating scenes with perfect detail, sung with an unerring balance, not too heavy, not too light, but whipsmart.

[Reissues were limited to what I'd heard. I'm sure there were way more better than the Snider. Sent this with 30 seconds to spare before the deadline tolled, so didn't do right by Taylor Swift. Also, an argument over on my livejournal as to whether "Only A Fool" is Marit's only country song. Certainly there are country elements in other Marit tracks, but they only reach a critical mass in "Only A Fool."]

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

And Greg posted this over on the livejournal thread:

I have no idea where to post this and I'd do it on ILX if still up. But you mentioned somewhere about the possibility of Jewel being accepted into the country mainstream thanks to the new young artists being influenced by her. And, what do you know, just now I saw a commercial on TV for Nashville Star (the country version of American Idol), and what do you know, but who are the hosts this season? Cowboy Troy and Jewel. You don't have a TV, so you might not know that and I thought you might be interested.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I've been seeing ads for Jewel and Cowboy Trot and Nashville Star. Very interested to see it. There were some great songs on Jewel's last record, too. I think the Nashville mainstream will accept anyone/anything who/which is as good-looking and earnest/apparently pliable as Jewel. I mean if North Korea took over the world tomorrow you'd see some Kim Jung country coming out of Music City next week. Quite an adaptable mentality.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of Texas Lightning, isn't there a bit of a history of country tropes in Eurodance, going back at least to Steps "5,6,7,8" (line dancing on the beach!) and Rednex "Cotton-Eye Joe" (if not way earlier)? Or were those two anomalies?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

I'll have to go back to that Jewel album. I was so bummed by the way she ruined "Fragile Heart" on the re-recording, and by some of her godawful high-school girl-poetry metaphors, that I just gagged on it, wouldn't even give it a second listen. She's got talent; I won't dispute that.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

There's also German faux-country act The Boss Hoss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_bw3aDSOI

xp

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

My complete Nashville Scene ballot is on another PC at the moment (I'm at work), but I am thrilled and a little stunned by the love for the Barbara Mandrell tribute album. It was my #3 (#1-4 went Cash-Jackson Rose-Mandrell tribute-Jackson Memories), but I thought (mistakenly, it turns out) that I was the only one who even noticed the album. I wonder if 4 votes will be enough to get it on the list?

For the record, my top 3 singles were Cash's "God's Gonna Cut You Down," Hank Jr.'s "That's How They Do It In Dixie," and Carrie's "Before He Cheats" - I wonder if the last might win the poll, but then remember that the Chicks are likely to sweep it, sadly. (I'm of the their-politics-got-in-their-music's-way camp.)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

I'm in the Their Politics Make Their Music Camp camp. Er, that's in reference to The Boss Hoss. (Reminds me of that promo clip for The Charlotte Church Show where she's lying down on the pitch surrounded by tough football players and she's pointing at one, then another, then another, saying, "Gay. Gay. You gay? Gay. Thought so.")

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

Charlotte in a country mood.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

Better sound on this rip of "5,6,7,8".

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I thank ILM for tipping me off to both "Only a Fool" and the Mandrell trib.

I'm surprised though that nobody else seems to like Rodney Atkins' "If You're Going Through Hell." It stomps near as hard as "Kerosene," his vocals--which usually annoy me to no end--get the laughing at disaster tone right, and has a mean hook on the chorus. And as support-the-troops-sublimations go, it's crafty. Then again, I neglected to mention it till now, oh well.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

just dug out that Jewel record, which I hadn't listened to since it came out. far as I am concerned, "Only One Too" is pretty fine--I mean maybe I am wrong, but seems like Liz Phair or S. Hoffs/M. Sweet didn't do a better piece of powerpop on their last records and hell she's as purty as either one of them, maybe Hoffs has got slightly better gams? (Sweet looks like he's been livin' on high-fructose corn syrup and supermarket chimichangas, or as this guy called them the other day in the supermarket line at the Dollar General store in Pleasant View, Tenn., chickamaugas.) "Satellite" and "Words Get in the Way" strike me as pretty good superpop, too-- and just imagine Jewel joining Sugarland or duetting w/ Keith Urban. (Nicole beware!)

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

is the Tritt best-of a single or double?

Single--at least on the advance promo I have. But 20 songs, which is probably twice as long as the stodgy old cuss deserves, unless the thing was a lot more well-chosen than this one seems to be. Let's see...I remember liking "Here's A Quarter (Call Someone Who Cares)," "Country Club," and "Lord Have Mercy On The Working Man" in their day; if there are seven more approaching that level (and I don't LOVE any of those), I'll be surprised. Always kinda hated "T-R-O-U-B-L-E," but maybe that's just 'cause I was a grump back then. I feel like he's had minor hits I've liked more than these whose titles I don't see on here, but damned if I can remember their names.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 6 January 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, I gotta say Tritt has always kind of pissed me off, since he never seemed to rock half as hard as his hard-guy trapping promised. Even when he was grandstanding against Billy Ray Cyrus's hip- swiveling sex appeal, Billy Ray kicked a lot harder than Tritt did.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 6 January 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

Frank Kogan seems to like Tritt more than I do, though -- or least some apparently Allmans-like track on his last album, but I'm pretty sure I never heard that one. (Unless Frank burned it and I forgot.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 6 January 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

whoops. Just now see that Ramon snuck Atkins in at #10 on his album list but not on his singles. I didn't hear the whole record; I fear his voice is too cloying to endure for more than three minutes of banjo-driven hookery, but maybe I'm wrong. What else is good on that album, Ramon?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 6 January 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

Roy, did you not notice my list??

TOP 10 COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2006
5. Rodney Atkins – If You’re Going Through Hell (Curb)

TOP 10 COUNTRY SINGLES (OR TRACKS OR WHATEVER) OF 2006
2 Rodney Atkins – “Cleaning This Gun (Come On In Boy)” (Curb)

"If You're Going Through Hell" is, at best, the album's fourth best song -- behind the one I voted for, "These Are My People," and "In The Middle." And while he's got his cloying moments ("Watching You," about his little boy learning to say naughty words and pray just like Daddy, gag), the words there not his voice are the culprit.

His debut album was good, too, though not quite as good as the followup (which for a while I was considering for my Pazz & Jop ballot, though it slipped a bit on my list in '06's waning weeks):

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0350,eddy,49290,22.html

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

Tony Furtado
album came and I like it
Not much else to say

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

"Cleaning This Gun" (about waiting at home for the boy who's taking his teenage daughter out on a date, and completely hilarious though I do say that as the dad of a teenage daughter) DID make my Jackin' Pop (not Pazz & Jop, yikes! no such thing this year!) singles ballot.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

Roy, I was pretty happy with the first Rodney Atkins (see my review), never heard the second but was somewhat ho-hum on its two singles. I like the fellow's sentimentality: it seems hard-won, or at least like something used to extend his image rather than just to support it.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 6 January 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

Doh, I totally missed Atkins on your ballot, xhuxk. I'm gonna track down the whole album, though I didn't care for the first one, as I recall, but tastes change.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 7 January 2007 01:26 (eighteen years ago)

Some interesting predictions about country album placements in the Nashville Scene/Pazz&Jop/JackinPop polls on Frank's livejournal:

http://koganbot.livejournal.com/11711.html

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 01:34 (eighteen years ago)

Chuck, what do you like about the new Bill Kirchen? In his recent years living in the DC area, some folks I know worshiped his frequent live gigs but I just found his rootsy Americana to be just pleasant in a kinda bland way. He always seemed capable of doing more though.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 7 January 2007 05:36 (eighteen years ago)

from rolling country '06:

Bill Kirchen's album is more rock and soul and blues than anything I've heard by him before. Great title (and rocking title track): Hammer Of The Honky Tonk Gods. He does "Devil With A Blue Dress On" as a slow shuffle, closes with an Arthur Alexander song.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...) (webmail), November 17th, 2006 12:04 PM. (xheddy) (link)


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This is like Freaky Friday or something. Totally agree with xhuxk on the new Kirchen. Good song selection too.
-- Roy Kasten (rfkaste...) (webmail), November 17th, 2006 2:50 PM. (Roy Kasten) (link)


Well, actually...Freaky Friday must be over now because the Kirchen album's sounding a lot duller to me today than it was a couple days ago. Just kinda stodgy and slow and colorless, and the title track doesn't really kick all that hard after all, and why the hell would anybody want to slow down "Devil With a Blue Dress On," come to think of it? So right now, I'm on the fence, but maybe it'll kick back in, or maybe it won't.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...) (webmail), November 19th, 2006 12:53 AM. (xheddy) (link)


"One More Day" on the Kirchen album does have a nice Dock Boggs era white country blues feel to it, I guess. And I do like the Arthur Alexander cover. So I haven't written the thing off quite yet.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...) (webmail), November 19th, 2006 1:45 AM. (xheddy) (link)

"Working Man" and "Soul Cruisin'" very nice on the Kirchen album too. I should just shut my mouth and stop second-guessing everything.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...) (webmail), November 19th, 2006 2:25 AM. (xheddy) (link)


Kirchen's "Hammer of The Honky Tonk Gods" title cut kicks (or at least "signifies kicking") in a Junior Brown kind of way, I guess. There's something sorta deluded about it -- half of Nashville rocks harder; hell, Kellie Pickler might rock harder -- but it's not bad.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...) (webmail), November 19th, 2006 2:54 AM. (xheddy) (link)


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And my new maybe-favorite on Kirchen's CD is "Skid Row in My Mind."

-- xhuxk (fakemai...) (webmail), November 19th, 2006 3:19 PM. (xheddy) (link)


So yeah, in the end, I'd say the Kirchen album squeaks by more on its real good song selection than its better-than-competent performances (and singing). But it still bats at least .500 in my book. I even wound up liking the track called "Heart of Gold," which is not a "Heart of Gold" I've known before. (It's credited to one T. Johnson). Best original is "One More Day," which turns out to be more Bob Wills than Dock Boggs, more Western swing than white blues. Anybody know who Blackie Farrell, who wrote "Skid Row In My Mind," or J. New, who wrote "Soul Cruisin'," are? They're both really great. "Devil With A Blue Dress" is totally dreary in this version, though maybe I'd forgive it here if I didn't grow up on Mitch Ryder.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...) (webmail), November 19th, 2006 10:45 PM. (xheddy) (link)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 06:11 (eighteen years ago)

Blackie Farrell is a West Coast hippy honky tonk songwriter dude. Wrote for Commander Cody (hence the Kirchen connection) and also "Sonora's Death Row" which Kottke and Robert Earl Keen covered.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 7 January 2007 06:21 (eighteen years ago)

Joe New is a California songwriter who wrote the title track of Kirchen's "Tied to the Wheel" CD. he knocked around in Nashville under contract to Alamo/Irving music and then moved back to the Bay Area. Has a CD I've never heard, independently released, called "West of the West." Has had songs cut by Con Hunley and John Mellencamp. Chuck's about right on the Kirchen, but I mainly like it for his guitar playing, his singing is neither here nor there to my mind.

great comp, on Time/Life: "Gloryland: 30 Bluegrass Gospel Classics." Don Reno/Red Smiley, Rhonda Vincent, Country Gentlemen, The Seldom Scene, two discs, mighty nice Sunday-morning music.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 7 January 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

So, as anticipated above, I choose Pam Tillis's pretty darn flawless 12-song 1997 Greatest Hits over her comparatively bloated 16-song 2002 Country Legends. "Betty's Got A Bass Boat" (and other stuff to lure men even though she doesn't fish) and "Mandolin Rain" are worth a listen but I don't really care whether I own them, I decided. Plus Pam looks way cuter in her overalls on the cover of the '97 comp. Partly she looks cuter because she looks zanier, which I'm getting the idea was probably her image -- like, was she thought of as a country Cyndi Lauper or something at one time? That's what it seems like. Also: what exactly does letting her pony run and shaking her sugar tree (if you take her love for granted) consist of?

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

John Waite's CD counts as country since it's on Rounder and features an Alison Krauss duet

...namely their "Missing You 2007" remake, which is now at #43 on the country singles chart

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of Jewel (upthread), she defines herself as "Country / Pop / Rock" on her MySpace page. I'm listening to "Stephenville TX" on the MySpace; sounds OK, diary-type lyrics that pretend to be revealing without revealing much, but she does kinda make fun of herself [I think][or of someone] for looking like a blonde diety and showing a little bit of cleavage, which she surely does. Certainly I can enjoy good singers with dumb lyrics (Nelly Furtado!), but there is something about Jewel's voice and singing style that seem of a piece with dumb lyrics, even if voice/style can be likable. I'll definitely give her a relisten when her alb becomes available at the library. (Someone had it checked out yesterday.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 7 January 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

My Jackin' Pop predictions weren't spot on (I overestimated Arctic Monkeys, underestimated The Hold Steady). But I was in the general area, I guess. I'd predicted that no album would place in the top five, and I was only off by five. Highest placing finisher (albums and singles) I'd never heard of: Hot Chip. And who are Girl Talk? So, prediction for Pazz & Jop? Ghostface beats TV On The Radio. And Dylan does a tad better there. "Crazy" still goes crazy over everyone else in the singles.

Depends how you define country, but either no country finished in the album top 40, or five or so did (Dylan, Neko Case, Jenny Lewis, Band Of Horses, Dixie Chicks, Bruce Springsteen). Todd Snider came in 61st, Johnny Cash 68, Rosanne Cash 85, Drive-By Truckers 89, Calexico 110, Bonnie "Prince" Billy 135, Jerry Lee Lewis 162, Vince Gill 168.

Singles, Band of Horses was 19th (I'm not claiming they're country, but I think they're considered Americana-related or something, though I'm not sure about that, even), Dixie Chicks 23, Dixie Chicks (again) 56, tied w/ Jenny Lewis and a buncha others, Neko Case 72, Neko Case (again) 84, tied w/ Todd Snider and a buncha others, and I'm not going to go further since we're down to six votes, except that "Before He Cheats" got a measly three votes. Marit Larsen's "Only A Fool" got five (her "Don't Save Me" got seven).

http://www.idolator.com/jackinpop2006

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 7 January 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and one other person voted for Eric Church! Unfortunately, Idolator didn't program it so you could just click on an album and find out who else voted for it, so I don't know who the person is. (And I switched out Eric Church for Alan Jackson in my Pazz & Jop. Three people voted for Like Red On A Road and one person voted for Precious Memories (I remember this on one of the ballots I looked at yesterday, but I forget who). Stephen Thomas Erlewine, who tends to cover pop and teenpop for allmusic.com, made Toby Keith's White Tra$h With Money his number one.

(I was distressed at how few people wrote comments; the dearth of commentary was probably due to the rushed deadline. Unfortunately my comments therefore stand out. I'm rather embarrassed by the nastiness at the start of my ballot, though I like the analysis that follows. If anything, Idolator is worse than what I said, but I really should have found another way to say it. Also disappointed by no lists from Rob Sheffield and Joshua Clover and Edd S. Hurt and Greil Marcus, and by Xgau's only voting one single.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

Girl Talk is apparently some mash-up guy(s), from Canada perhaps, mixing up indie rock with hip-hop beats and other stuff. I never heard of him/them til a week or two ago, when the album showed up on the Rolling Stone and/or Spin end '06 list. Hot Chip are some guy(s) from England or somewhere mixing techno-dance with, um, other stuff. (It's their second album, I think, which to me seemed less good than their first one, but I'm not going to pretend I gave it much time. They seem to filling the niche Phoenix filled a couple years ago, or maybe Junior Junior, or maybe Junior Boys, or somebody like that.)

I posted this in a couple other places already, and as far as I know it has nothing whatsoever to do with country, but what the heck:

(And I had no idea til I read Michaelangelo's essay that Destroyer are considered "trad." Also, I swear I never even heard of Peter, Bjorn & John or Justice or Rhythm & Sound or Midlake before today. I'm pretty sure I heard of Camera Obscura before, but I had no idea that anybody liked them.) (And, oh yeah, the biggest surprise to me in the album finishers is Belle & Sebastian at #10. I have nothing more against them than I ever did, but I kinda figured even their fans didn't care about them anymore.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

I think Some People Change is the weakest set of Montgomery Gentry's career, though I might change my mind. That being said, "Hey Country" will seriously contend for my best single of the year, if released in 2007. It would have been top 10 this year (not just for country, for all genres). Oh hell, I don't get a vote, but here's my top 10 country singles of 2006. I didn't hear a lot of stuff (that's why I don't get a vote!), but based on what I heard:

1) Marit Larsen - "Only A Fool"
2) Carrie Underwood - "Before He Cheats"
3) Texas Lightning - "No No Never"
4) Julie Roberts - "Men and Mascara"
5) LeAnn Rimes - "And It Feels Like " (questionable eligibility)
6) Sara Evans - "Coalmine"
7) LeAnn Rimes - "Some People"
8) Toby Keith - "A Little Too Late"
9) Ashley Monroe - "Satisfied"
10) Rodney Atkins - "If You're Going Through Hell (Before the Devil Even Knows)"

This is a pretty solid top 10, even though there is stuff I didn't hear, like I said. I, as always, have a huge soft spot for Sara Evans, though "You'll Always Be My Baby" was not good at all.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 8 January 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

I'm enjoying about half of the new Holmes Brothers album State of Grace. Craig Street is overly decorous on the production, but I'm a sucker for a slow soul take on "What's So Funny About Peace Love and Understanding" and even slower country waltz time Cheap Trick ("I Want You to Want Me"). Also, I'd heard Levon Helm was singing again, but had no idea how well he's recovered. He leads the way on "I've Just Seen the Rock of Ages" and is goddam deep in the pocket.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

By the way, I am interested in hearing what the Rolling Country denizens think of Garth Brooks. All I know of him is "The Thunder Rolls" and "Friends in Low Places" both of which are really great, and I've always been interested in checking out his other work. So, is it worth it to check it out, and if so where's a good place to start?

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 04:56 (eighteen years ago)

The Hits thing, the one with the flag super imposed on his face, is pretty solid--and turns up used a lot. I think his first four albums all have their moments, but I'd start with Hits, and then maybe work forward from the first record, if you're really getting into it. Avoid the ridiculous Chris Gaines album.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 05:05 (eighteen years ago)

Garth was great, gigantic. Just obviously not as great and gigantic as he thinks he was. My favorite albums by him are probably The Chase, No Fences, Scarecrow, and Fresh Horses, more or less in that order, though yeah, Hits is the one I put on, and is obviously the place to start with the guy.

Just played Alan's Like Red On A Rose again this morning, first time I've put it on since I bumped it from by Nashville Scene ballot. Which was stupid -- if I had to do it over again, I'd have bumped the Mandrell compilation instead, and Alan probably would have more in the running for my Jackin' Pop as well. It really is a beautiful record. Jazz album of the year, easy! But one thing I figured out is that it sort of blands out in its second half, after the first six tracks or so. My bumping probably over-emphasized that.

I'd say the weakest album of Montgomery Gentry's career was their debut album, and probably rank Some People Change second or third best. Either way, there's been no more consistent musical act this decade, in any genre. I'm not even sure who would come close.

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:18 (eighteen years ago)

(Oddly, though, I don't think I've ever actually heard Garth's first album, and I retardedly didn't pay $1.60 or $2.40 or whatever it was for the copy I saw at Half-Price Books in Houston two weeks ago, opting perversably for Little Texas and Rick Trevino instead! Thing is, isn't that first album supposed to be a lot more generic, sort of a George Strait wannabe neo-trad just-another-random-hat-act type thing, from before Garth truly defined himself as Garth? Not sure why I think that -- and not sure why I think that would likely make it subpar -- but it's long been my probably misinformed impression.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:22 (eighteen years ago)

And Greg, who are Texas Lightning? I've never heard of them...

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:35 (eighteen years ago)

Jazz album of the year, easy!

Well, not counting Toby Keith's jazz album, if that counts. But better than Kenny Garrett, Ben Riley's Monk Legacy Septet, or David Ware (all of which I found extremely listenable regardless) for sure.

In other news, Don Allred forwarded me this yesterday. Interesting!!

Club Connection Announces Top Ten Country Dance Hits Of 2006

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (January 8, 2006) -- For the third year, Marco Promotion's Club Connection surveyed over 200 country nightclubs and dance instructors nationwide to determine the most played and most requested dance titles of the past 12 months.

Steve Holy blasted into 2006 with this year's number one club track, "Brand New Girlfriend." The single, which also earned Holy his second #1 radio hit, was released in February with a remix sent exclusively to clubs and dance instructors in November.

Trace Adkins dominates this year's top ten by earning the number two and number six spots with "Swing" and current radio single "Ladies Love Country Boys" respectively. Both tracks are on his 2006 Album Dangerous Man.

The number three spot belongs to Rodney Atkins and his breakout single "If You're Going Through Hell," the title track from his sophomore album on Curb Records.

CMA Award Winners Rascal Flatts capture the number four spot for their Jeffery Steele, Tony Mullins, Jon Stone penned "Me And My Gang." Brad Paisley rounds out the top 5 with "The World."

Toby Keith made his third straight appearance on the top ten with his single "Get Drunk And Be Somebody," charting at number seven.

Country newcomers closed out the 2006 top ten. Pittsburgh, PA natives the Povertyneck Hillbillies chart at number eight with their debut single "Mr. Right Now." The number nine spot belongs to Curb Recording artist Tyler Dean with "Built For Blue Jeans," a track that was released exclusively to clubs and dance instructors. Completing this year's list is Eric Church's "Two Pink Lines," the second single from his debut album Sinners Like Me.

2005's number one dance hit, Trace Adkins' "Honkytonk Badonkadonk," continued its' momentum into 2006 earning the highest re-current rotation. Bomshel's "Bomshel Stomp," which earned the duo the number six spot in 2005, took the number two re-current position. Big and Rich's club mainstay "Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy," a single that topped the 2004 club hits list and appeared as 2005's number one re-current, earned the third highest re-current rotation in 2006.

Club Connection's Top Ten Dance Hits Of 2006 are:
1. Steve Holy "Brand New Girlfriend"
2. Trace Adkins "Swing"
3. Rodney Atkins "If You're Going Through Hell"
4. Rascal Flatts "Me And My Gang"
5. Brad Paisley "The World"
6. Trace Adkins "Ladies Love Country Boys"
7. Toby Keith "Get Drunk And Be Somebody"
8. PovertyNeck Hillbillies "Mr. Right Now"
9. Tyler Dean "Built For Blue Jeans"
10. Eric Church "Two Pink Lines"

Marco Promotion's Club Connection is a division of Nashville-based publicity and promotions company, AristoMedia Group. Capitalizing on the resurgent popularity of country dance clubs, Club Connection provides services that allow artists to impact larger audiences and increase product awareness. Club Connection has created successful promotion packages for artists including Trace Adkins, Dierks Bentley, Big & Rich, Montgomery Gentry, Toby Keith and Bomshel. For more information about Marco Promotions' Club Connection, please visit www.marcopromo.com or www.marcoclubconnection.com.


xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

And oh yeah, I really wound up liking that 1988 nine-song Ronnie Milsap Greatest Hits record I bought. The guy is just totally a master of understated, sparely orchestrated, slightly soul-inflected sadness and beauty of the type that Alan and Toby seem so enamored of these days. Most of the songs don't blow me away, though "Smoky Mountain Rain" does: toally sounds like its title feels; words (song credited to Kye Fleming/Dennis W Morgan) about heading back to Nashville from LA and stopping at a phonebooth to tell her you're coming home, but she's not there -- I'm not sure if Milsap had the biggest hit with it or not. Second favorite maybe "Back On My Mind Again," with words about how Daytona's nice this time of year set to a melody seemingly partially lifted from the Beatles's wretched (I always thought, though maybe I was wrong?) "Octopus's Garden" (as was one of the melodies on one of my least favorite songs on the good mid-'90s Elevator Drops album I also bought cut-rate in Houston two weeks ago). "It Was Almost Like A Song" has a great ballad upswing to it. "Pure Love" written by Eddie Rabbit mentions Captain Crunch. "Daydreams About Night Things" may not be betta than Loretta (as I said above) but is still a great song, and in Ronnie's version he's watching the clock at his factory job where in Loretta's she's watching it at home. And I'm pretty sure Ronnie sings "Please Don't Tell Me How The Story Ends" better than Kris Kristofferson, who wrote it, could. So: worth the $1.80! (And it all lasts just 28:05, so it's easy in more ways than one.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

Texas Lightning are just an odd little band who somehow ended up being Germany's entry into Eurovision this year. They are a German band, with an Australian lead singer. Their first album Meanwhile, Back at the Ranch is mostly a silly little effort, consisting mostly of country covers of non-country tunes (such as "Like a Virgin" and "Kiss" and "Bad Case of Loving You") and a few covers of traditional country cuts by Patsy Cline and Tex Williams. Completely disposable, the country version of a Me First and the Gimme Gimmes album, and just as bad. But sitting in there is one original song, "No No Never", which is in a lot of ways just a europop song dressed up as country, but which is really pretty. I love the melody and the singer's voice. They released another single last year, another original titled "I Promise" but it wasn't too good.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

isn't that first album supposed to be a lot more generic, sort of a George Strait wannabe neo-trad just-another-random-hat-act type thing, from before Garth truly defined himself as Garth?

That's overstating things a bit, and I think the defining Garth-as-Garth has as much to do with his mega-image and arena shows, which he obviously couldn't do behind a debut. But "The Dance" is one of his biggest and most Garth songs; "Tomorrow Never Comes" and "Alabama Clay" are good too. He's always been an under-rated singer.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

RE: Garth: I agree, The Hits is great, but don't forget Double Live, either - that's the one release where you can really get what made Garth, Garth: not just the songs but the personality, the larger-than-lifeness, the interplay with the crowd. (Plus it makes for a decent best-of as well; Garth really, really needs a good 2-disc comp.)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

ronnie milsap is kind of more charlie rich than anyone else working in mainstream. his last record was pretty fine, too.

garth, hmm, the first one, '90, w/ "friends in low places," i always liked because it was a bit more relaxed, pre-mega-success. i guess i think "in pieces" is the best of all of them except the first greatest hits package. one of those guys i wish i could divorce the music from that silly-ass way he always cavorted around on stage and so forth. definitely some kind of genius of assimilationist nashville, oklahoma. give me john anderson any day, though, or even keith whitley.

jackson "jazz album of the year," eh? that's the rub, and what a lot of reviewers just seem to have missed. i was talking about charlie rich, and certainly jackson has affinities. rich always gave you a piece of himself, vocally, though, and jackson remains a bit of a cipher, but i guess i say the less "personality" in jazz-pop these days, perhaps the better. a really over-the-top singer might've ruined "like red."

xps

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

Frank, I don't know if someone else already pointed this out to you, but there's a search feature on the main page of the Idolator poll that lets you see who all voted for what.

Here's my Scene stuff:

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2006:

1. Alan Jackson – Like Red on a Rose
2. Jenny Lewis with the Watson Twins – Rabbit Fur Coat
3. Julie Roberts – Men and Mascara
4. The Wreckers – Stand Still, Look Pretty
5. Blaine Larsen – Rockin’ You Tonight
6. Rosanne Cash – Black Cadillac
7. Dixie Chicks – Taking the Long Way
8. Vince Gill – These Days
9. Toby Keith – White Trash with Money
10. Keith Urban – Love, Pain & the Whole Crazy Thing

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2006:

1. Faith Hill – “Stealing Kisses”
2. Sara Evans – “Cheatin’”
3. Carrie Underwood – “Before He Cheats”
4. Kenny Chesney – “Summertime”
5. The Wreckers – “Leave the Pieces”
6. Blaine Larsen – “I Don’t Know What She Said”
7. Toby Keith – “Get Drunk and Be Somebody”
8. Billy Currington – “Must Be Doin’ Somethin’ Right”
9. Dixie Chicks – “Not Ready to Make Nice”
10. Julie Roberts – “Men and Mascara”

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2006:

1. Alan Jackson
2. Toby Keith
3. Vince Gill

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2006:

1. Julie Roberts
2. Neko Case
3. Carrie Underwood

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST LIVE ACTS OF 2006:

1. Tim McGraw/Faith Hill
2. Dierks Bentley
3. Kenny Chesney

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST SONGWRITERS OF 2006:

1. Lori McKenna
2. Arlis Albritton
3. Robert Lee Castleman

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST DUOS, TRIOS OR GROUPS OF 2006:

1. The Wreckers
2. Dixie Chicks
3. Deadstring Bros.

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2006:

1. The Wreckers
2. Blaine Larsen
3. Jamey Johnson

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST OVERALL ACTS OF 2006:

1. Alan Jackson
2. Julie Roberts
3. Rosanne Cash

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

Josh, I thought "Bible Song" was your favorite Sara Evans cut. Maybe it wasn't a single, I dunno.

I'm sure you guys probably talked about this last year, but thoughts on "Brand New Girlfriend"? I think it's great: I love the unabashed heart-on-his-sleeve giddiness, but I can also see someone could find it annoying. None of you voted for it. A little surprised that Frank was the only one who voted for Taylor Swift's "Tim McGraw," too. Not surprised at all that we all seem to agree on the excellence of "Before He Cheats."

I'd like to hear more country this year. I didn't really hear anything until late 2005, and even last year I probably only heard about a dozen or so songs, not including the Dixie Chicks record, which I thought was just okay.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I saw a video for "Cheatin'" in '06 so I counted it - I definitely like "Bible Song" more but I never came across anything about it being a single or video (though granted I don't watch a whole lot of CMT and rarely listen to country radio).

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

The singles from Sara Evans are "Real Fine Place to Start" (definitely 05) and "Cheatin" (arguable 06 eligibility, but I count it in 05), then in '06 we had "Coalmine" and "You'll Always Be My Baby". A rather uninspired slate of selections, especially "You'll Always Be My Baby" which is I think my least favorite song on the entire album.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, "real fine" is the best single to come off sara's record. i don't think the record is as strong as her previous collection, myself.

"bible song" is kinda brilliant, though.

so I gotta give a listen to Jason Michael Carroll's "Waitin' in the Country" promo. anyone heard it yet? beyond "Alyssa Lies"? he does a duet with our new Star, Jewel...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Xposted to my blog.

5 Country Albums I liked in 2006, in no particular order:

1. Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings the Flood
2. Alan Jackson - Like Red On a Rose
3. Rosanne Cash - Black Cadillac
4. Hannah Montana - Hannah Montana Soundtrack
5. Dixie Chicks - Taking the Long Way Around

Five in one year means it's a pretty good year for me for country music. Most years have one country permanent addition to my iPod, if any at all. Unclear if Hannah Montana will be a permanent fixture (though 'Best of Both Worlds' will likely be) or Rosanna Cash, though her album strikes me as beautiful at the moment. The other 3 are no doubt permanent additions.

Amazing moments from these five albums:
1. "John couldn't read it (John couldn't read it) / Get on repeat it / John couldn't read it / Holy, Holy to the Lord" - can you hear Johnny B. Goode?
2. "at the end of the road is another town where the people want to hear a man who sings the blues."
3. "it was a black cadillac that drove you away -- one of us gets to go to heaven, one has to stay in hell" -- can you hear this and not think of joni's yellow taxi?
4. "Living two lives is... a - little weerd!"
5. " And how in the world / Can the words that I said / Send somebody so over the edge / That they'd write me a letter / Saying that I better shut up and sing / Or my life will be over."

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Actually, Frank gave me a reason why Hannah Montana isn't country, but I wonder if anyone can give me some reasons why she is? Or could be? I'm curious, outside of the television show (in which she's called a hillbilly regularly), why I'd think there was something countryish about her.

Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

don't know the hannah montana...
jason michael carroll's "waitin' in the country." this record has two songs that rhyme "steeple" and "people." the title song is about escaping to the outer exurbs; the second one uses a modal lick from folk-rock, the one that country often uses, big-ass ninth/seventh guitar lick, to begin the song, and it's also about going wild within a 100-mile radius from a base in the country. "as long as I can beat the train/and they got a passing lane" sums it up nicely. the one that I guess is something of a hit now, "alyssa lies," well, what happens when the girl is not a grown girl but a kid, and *your* kid comes home from school crying because alyssa is lying...not about stealing or cheating, but about "every bruise." and what rhymes with lie that alyssa does, since no one will do anything about anything, including the guy singing the song?

the one with jewel is totally bleh--"no good in goodbye." the best one is maybe "honky tonk friends," about a guy who hangs out with his suburban neighbors and his co-workers and even with his Godly Friends (steeple-people), but who only really loves his h.t. friends.

he gets that macho astringent deep baritone slide up to nasality quite well, and the title track, and especially "sleep when i'm dead" rock pretty good--the latter is, like, about 4 songs all jammed into one, with some amazing twists and turns and that great guitar lick. "anywhere u.s.a" was already done by jason aldean and many others--some of this is big & rich, too, he almost raps, it's a typically wordy nashville country album. not bad!

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

there's been no more consistent musical act this decade, in any genre. I'm not even sure who would come close.

Come to think of it, Toby Keith comes close. (And I haven't even heard his early albums, so it's possible he even surpasses MG.) And Craig Finn might come close if you count Lifter Puller stuff I guess. Who else?? Pink has four CDs on my shelf, but I can't say I love any of them. Field Mob have three; third one not great. Um...
Actually, the Dixie Chicks would be up in top five or so, probably. (Oh wait...Lil Wayne! Trick Daddy! Brooks & Dunn, though I only even know three '00s albums by them -- guess I need to research backwards from Steers and Queers. Gore Gore Girls, though they only have two albums and an EP. Eminem's off the list by now... and I might be starting to lose track of Lil Wayne and Trick Daddy.)

I need to give Jason Michael Carrol another shot (and had planned to; was just procrastinating.) I'd taken him for something of a wuss on first listen. (Not that being a wuss is necessarily always bad.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 02:25 (eighteen years ago)

His album seemed less wussy this morning. But I still wasn't playing super-close attention. Yet.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:00 (eighteen years ago)

"I Can Sleep When I'm Dead" (howdy Warren Zevon!) = DEFINITELY not wussy. I'm really liking "Honky Tonky Friends," too. And the Jewel duet isn't bad. Still on the fence about "Alyssa Lies," though.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

More like howdy Bon Jovi!

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

I'll post that country ballot on freelancementalists, eventually, with even more comments; rat now I don't want to drop anything on top of "Dancestand Internationale (2006!"(check it out yall). Can't access Idolator's Jackin Pop section, except for Matos' essay, and that's on three dif computers at two dif locales, and my friend the research librarian at Cornell can't get any further, even on her various kickass machines. Oh well, I'll keep checking, but Daddino's threads have imported some goodies. Meanwhile, here's the Seger bit, although I got hung up on "Persecution Smith" etc. and not as much about new album (and the amazing Greatest Hits 2, which I described in the thing for Anthony's Lefthip round, hopefully making his deadline). But the new(ish) album, Face The Promise, is more good than bad, and he's got rockin Nashville Cats like J.T. Corenflos and Steve Nathan, and the inevitable Kid Rock duet is fun too. More later on freelancementalists, but this is the gist of it: http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A117085

don (dow), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Chris Willman just forwarded this to me. It's the line-up for Coachella Festival in So. California.

Saturday, May 5, 2007: George Strait, Alan Jackson, Sara Evans, Jason Aldean, Eric Church, Willie Nelson, Lucinda Williams, Neko Case, Robert Earl Keen, Richie Furay, Chris Hillman & Herb Pederson, David Serby, Earl Scruggs, Nickel Creek, Yonder Mountain String Band, The Grascals, The John Cowan Band, Ramblin’ Jack Elliot, Riders in the Sky, Red Steagall, Waddie Mitchell, Sons of the San Joaquin, Cowboy Nation.

Sunday, May 6, 2007: Kenny Chesney, Brooks & Dunn, Sugarland, Gary Allan, Pat Green, Emmylou Harris, Kris Kristofferson, Raul Malo, Junior Brown, Drive by Truckers, Alejandro Escovedo, Railbenders, Ricky Skaggs, Doyle Lawson and Quicksilver, Marty Stuart, The Del McCoury Band, Abigail Washburn with the Sparrow Quartet featuring Ben Sollee, Sasey Driessen and Bela Fleck, The Flatlanders (Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Joe Ely, Butch Hancock), Garrison Keillor, Baxter Black, Cowboy Celtic, Don Edwards, and Katy Moffat.

Whoah.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

it's not Coachella, though it's put on by the same company at the same location (one week after Coachella), but Stagecoach

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

Ah OK. Who is sponsoring this thing? The Bank of Switzerland?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

No one's "sponsoring" it, far as I can tell. More details here.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 11 January 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

Um, surely someone is: http://www.coachella.com:81/sponsors/

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 11 January 2007 00:17 (eighteen years ago)

My bad.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 11 January 2007 00:22 (eighteen years ago)

that's gonna be like 2 days of 'grand ol opry' style 3 songs and outski stuff

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 January 2007 01:24 (eighteen years ago)

I can't wait for the Garrison Keillor-led super jam at the end.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 11 January 2007 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

I'm liking this Garth Brook's "The Hits" collection but at first couple listens nothing else strikes me as good as "Friends In Low Places" or "Thunder Rolls". I like this album, but am not feeling particularly inspired to go out and by his actual studio albums.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

So Don, have you heard Nancy McCallion's new band?:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/lastcallgirls

The border-jigging sounds pretty good; makes the music more rich than the Nancy solo album I heard last year. But the Mollys worked with a wider emotional range, though, I think. (I.e.--they could be pretty dark.) In all cases, though, I'm realizing that Nancy probably doesn't really have enough vocal presence for me -- She's a competent singer, but kind of dull. It would take a better singer than her for me to decide how good a songwriter she is. But she does seem to surround herself with fairly lively musician friends.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

nothing else strikes me as good as "Friends In Low Places" or "Thunder Rolls".

I'd say "Callin' Baton Rouge," "What She's Doing Now," "Papa Loved Mama," "Two Of A Kind Workin' On A Full House," and maybe "That Summer," and maybe "Ain't Goin' Down (Til The Sun Comes Up)"
(and probably one or two more) come pretty damn close though.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

Pretty lame--"A Different World" first single from Bucky Covington, the 2nd Country artist (after Kellie Pickler) from last season's Amer Idol with a deal. He was more of a Southern Rock guy on the show--singing stuff like "Simple Man"--though he did do a Gary Allen song on Country Night. His voice here sounds like it was run through some program that removes grit & enhances twang. Also it's a nostalgia piece for the 1980s, them good old days of lead paint and hard drinking pregnant women, back when you drank water from a garden hose rather than a bottle, back when Dwayne Wayne glasses were cool (maybe.)

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Saturday, 13 January 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

No xxhuxx, have not heard nor heard of Nancy's new band! Didn't Catherine Zavala's voice, with and without Nancy's, serve Nancy's (and Catherine's) songs pretty well? I miss her so much.Like a young, vital, yet raspystential Marianne Faithful.Apparently she's more involved in the ASU desert groves of academe nowadays (that's a geographical ref only, the groves may well be plush with learnin', for all I know). Occasionally sits in, though, incl with a St. Patricio's Day reunion in 06, or 05, how the years disappear.For anyone who didn't get this email:
Finally saw all of Broken Bridges, but it was better in bits; bet the director's done videos, maybe mostly those. Toby's a good actor though, listens carefully, then little darting quips occasionally, some of which sound improvised. All of which is true to the character, in this case (black sheep, trying to get back into good graces). And true to the aw shucks ma'am discreet black sheep backdoor man asspect of his orig persona. But I'd rather have the soundtrack, if it's got all this stuff. And soundtrack's prob the main worth of this whole project, aside from what it might do for Toby's career.(PS: bit about the listening and quips reminds me that Toby long ago said he wanted to do his own version of "Seinfeld.")

don (dow), Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:08 (eighteen years ago)

frank and i were having a conversation about the two faith hill singles, and how they were or werent country, and i kept feeling bad because i put them on my ns ballot even though i thot they were more cabaret...i was fucking with you tube last night, cause im in TO, at my friends pat and ray--who both mostly listen to modern rock and dance...playing stealing kisses, my love of which is about 1/2 high camp diva worship and 1/2 something else, and i kept saying well this isnt really country, this is her judy garland at carnagie hall moment, and pat said he couldnt understand why i didnt think it ws country (might have been the hair, in both videos, frankly) so, all that worry about it not being country enough was all for moot, if one didnt listen to country.

i also got a best of gene pitney for 6 bucks, which has been the exten t of my record buying this trip, havent listened to it fully, but planning on doing that tomorrow or monday (tonite being the super fancy bday dinner)

(though i did find a copy of carnival strippers, a relvetory, complicated, and proto2ndwavefemminist book of women hardned by love, the road, and male lust--there is a country opus, a hillbillu opera waiting to be written about it, and it made me wonder, what did carnival strippers listen to in 1972, on their circitous way around the country, what did they strip to?)

also outside the country vein, the last episode of studio 60. had the christian singer harriet being offered the role of anita pallenberg in a rolling stone movie, and her joking that tammy wynettr should have been offered, it says alot when tammy is a joke and anita pallenberg is the best role a woman can hope to play.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 13 January 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.amazon.com/Carnival-Strippers-Susan-Meiselas/dp/3882439548

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 13 January 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

recent stuff sort of on the borderline of country maybe:

over the rhine -- matt cibula who loves them probably thinks i'm always trying hard not to like these americanists, but actually just the opposite is true. of course i want to like them: they come from cincinnatti or someplace like that and their name refers to germany i suppose and i've been obsessed with the german cincannatti thing ever since i saw a book that i assume was a history of the city when i was a kid called was du ever im zizinnatti or something like that (richard riegel, please to come here and correct my spelling). thing is, over the rhine have never grabbed me, not once, not even for a song. i kind of figured that their new best-of CD would play down their amorphousness, but sadly no such luck dudes.

royal trux - interesting. i have a prejudice against these people in part because they're one of those bands (like disco inferno -- who may or may not actually exist in real life -- and gary numan) who seemingly have an extremely rabid and obsessed and deluded cult of people i can't otherwise identify on ILM who think they're the greatest artists in the universe, which may or may not be amusing but is definitely way beyond ridiculous. the one album i got all the way through by them before struck me as a shitty version of black crowes, more or less. (it was one of their mid/late '90s "sellout" albums i guess; i think i tried listening to one of their early noisier records once and it seemed completely forgettable even as background sound, at least at the time. i'm willing to concede i may have underrated both of those records though.) anyway, the new one western extermintator has some okay blues guitar jam parts (in "rat will kill") and one song that sounds like hanoi rocks drowning in your bathtub ("balls to pass") and an opening dark gypsy waltz that you might like more than me if you like tom waits or nick cave more than me. so...some of it, at least, is not bad. but mostly the music tends to muffle and distance itself into lifelessness.

cloud cult -- as country as modest mouse if not ugly casanova, which means, well, a little bit country at least. i like this! at least so far! i just don't know how much! they are an indie band from minnesota and have actual songs with words that seem to make sense, and hooks and a good singer and decent beat, but mostly melodies melodies melodies. and there's intersting things going on musically in a modest mouse type way; one of these days i'll pinpoint why i kinda like those guys. so far "the girl underground" is my favorite song, then "2x2x2" and "alien christ," but i have only just begun.

the mooney suzuki - i liked their previous record, the mainstream hard rock one where they finally came to terms with their inner eddie money for an entire album. new album's lamer, and seemingly a deadhead hippie (= roots, sort of) move overall, though the jokey drug spiel "good ol' alchohol" is a decent commander cody type joke. if i had an ipod i'd probably put it on there and chuck the rest, though i'd be intersted if somebody hears something here i don't.

eddie money - covers of great '60s songs like "expressway to your heart" and "land of a thousand dances" and "good lovin'" and "jenny take a ride" and two by the foundations plus james brown, ray charles, sam & dave, etc. which by now means people who buy country records might end up buying this too. so far seems kind of watered down, but we'll see. better than mooney suzuki's CD probably. a cool photo of eddie at 15 in his garage band the grapes of wrath inside.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

actually the cloud cult singer is more a talker than a singer, which undoubtedly helps him a lot. i'd say they're more country than the hold steady (but then so are modest mouse, and ugly casanova, and winfred e. eye if they count.) album title: the meaning of 8.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Also sometimes the Cloud Cult guy's voice swishes around like the guy from Placebo, I'm realizing. (Okay, not very county, I know.)

Water Ostanek ("Canada's Polka King and Three Time Grammy Winner" -- he does the odd numbered selections, which sometimes have slightly more intriguing song titles, likke "Hawaiian Polka" and "My Beautiful Slovenia Waltz") and Gaylord Kancnik ("Michigan Polka Hall of Fame inductee", who does the even numbered selections), Polkas United -- Consistently lively dance music behind consistently repressed singing that refuses to acknowledge that rock'n'roll, country, blues, jazz, etc, ever happened. Which might not be bad if said singing had a Polish or German accent (or if its pre-rock pop inflections had some distinction otherwise), but it doesn't.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, the Mooney Suzuki song that paperthinwalls linked to doesn't sound bad as a standalone; it'd be better if it was two minutes shorter (it kinda falls apart by the time the soul-sister backup comes in), but Eric Davidson rightly compares it to the Doobies yet ignores how good a rock album their Matrix one was:

http://paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=406

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

gary numan is the greatest artist in the universe

identify as: mark s (mark s), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I reviewed a Cloud Cult record for some online thing a while back, and I remember kind of liking its textural bias. Don't have the record any more, though. "Advice from the Happy Hippopotamus," and now I remember that I thought they were kinda like Jethro Tull meets Boards of Canada, weird melancholic evocations of lost childhood.

As for Over the Rhine, Chuck, that's a section of downtown Cincinnati that used to be a nice German part of the city and then after whiteflight days of the '50s and '60s turned into pretty much a horrible slum. It might be different now--I lived there in 2002-2003, what a weird place that was, beautiful and in many ways fascinating, a once-major city all sunk in on itself--so that area might be in the throes of urban renewal by now. The German elements in Zinzinnati weren't as obvious by the time I got there, but you could still feel it. Then there's a whole side of town that's settled by people from eastern Ky. and Tenn., the "west side," I think, the city is separated by a big ridge. Where King Records was is just a run-down slum, not much different from where Stax was in Memphis, except you ate "chili" instead of weird tamales and barbecue. Maybe they're changing all that, too. As the band Over the Rhine, never could figure out what the fuss was, boring.

as for almost-country-why-not, Ron Sexsmith. his new one I've tried to like, I mean I like it a little bit and I respect its obvious sincerity and craft, but he's just not much of a singer. He sounds a bit like Jackson Browne, which isn't too bad, and he also sounds uncannily like Ray Davies in spots. he hits the notes but he lacks drama. And the songs are good, but there's just an extra-X element lacking that could take any one of them from OK into really good. he does one about being bummed out by hearing Leadbelly as backdrop for a bookstore ambience kinda thing, and OK, but the obvious riposte is that *his* music does exactly the same thing, it sort of murmurs in that genteel way. Still, he obviously has something, but doesn't in my book deserve the praise he's gotten from lots of people, like, er, No Depression...guy there says his work "not only echoes but rivals that of the Kinks at their most exquisite," but I don't hear it. It's *not* exquisite, is the point, but rather workaday. Maybe I need to be in the right mood, like buying hundreds of dollars worth of books and magazines in Borders while eating a five-dollar muffin and drinking coffee. Plus the Kinks at their best were endearingly crass and Sexsmith doesn't seem to want to ever commit anything so energetic to disc.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

what a weird place that was, beautiful and in many ways fascinating, a once-major city all sunk in on itself--so that area might be in the throes of urban renewal by now. The German elements in Zinzinnati weren't as obvious by the time I got there

I lived there from Kindergarten to 4th Grade, so I guess around 1965 to 1969 or so. Don't remember it much (just like everything else at that time in my life), but the one time I went back to the city in the mid '80s to drop in on Richard R., the greenness and hilliness of its vistas reminded me a lot of Germany around Mainz and Bad Kreuznach, where I'd been stationed in the Army. I should go back again sometime (to both places.) And I should track down that book.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

xxxxk i know you been trying to like otr, you been bragging about how hard youve tried for about four years now but you still dont like them so how good could you be at trying?

ohio is a great fucking record because karin is a great singer and songwriter. their followup drunkard's prayer was a conscious pullback away from karin being in charge of the band; it saved their relationship and linford's fragile ego, but at the cost of her truly being able to be free to cut loose. it was boring and i said so. i saw them on both tours and the last time (after they had supposedly gotten back on track with each other) there was a palpable tension between them onstage, no adoring looks, no chemistry, no nothing. it was really weird. so anyway.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

sexsmith is sort of ubquitious here, sold in second cups, all over the cbc, and i dont think he is as good as any of the american british options

it sounds a bit like the new teddy thompson but thompson is much more beautiful.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, FALSE ALARM ALERT: The more time I spend with the Cloud Cult CD, the more unpalatably emo they sound to me. But they must have something going for them, just for grabbing me momentarily.

As slightly country-inflected indie rock goes, I'm liking Tigers & Monkeys' Loose Mouth more. Singer is Shonali Bhowmik, formerly of Atlanta-based-I-believe better-than-Breeders mid/late '90s Breeders-like art-pop-rock band Ultrababyfat, and she sings with a bit of a drawl these days. That's the country part, which is negligible but still undeniably there somewhere (and as I recall they list country as an influence) and Shonali also has a knack for repeating non-word syllables musically, in a way that sort of reminds me of Frank Blank from the Pixies a little albeit in a way I can actually stomach. But the songs that are hitting me on the album ("You Know," "Rave On," "Fire Escape" which Shonali sez is the only way out and hot hot hot, "The Ballad of the Smoking Gun" which is not a ballad) are more like if PJ Harvey (in blues-rock mode) was actually fun, and they have a decent push and bounce for indie rock, maybe even an okay one for non-indie rock. Most of the other tracks are less good though, but I haven't taken the album out of the CD changer yet. Here is their myspace if you want to judge for yerself:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=6078986

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

And so yeah, somehow Eddie Money or his producer buffs too much of the rock'n'rolling out of those Soul Survivors and Detroit Wheels and Cannibal & the Headhunters choons. The beat lags, and the vocals seem kinda congested and a wee bit thin; Ed's always been something of an ugly pug vocalwise just like visualwise (mouth at the side of his face), and though his voice has held up better than, say, Bob Seger's, that's not saying all that much. Killer song choice, though.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

I like Tigers and Monkeys, mostly because the songs remind me of the mid-1980s and because she's a good singer and kinda indie-cute, and because of Fred Armisen's cameo in the video for "Fire Escape".

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 13 January 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Eddie Money or his producer buffs too much of the rock'n'rolling out

Or maybe he just needs a better band! Somebody else figure it out.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

na na, Seger's voice has lost some of its range, judging by Face The Promise, but he's still a lot better than Eddie Money, jeezus. Money needs a better him, not just a better band. Speaking of making the most(or enough) of a limited voice, and of Blackie Farrell, Dave Alvin does a good version of Farrell's "Sonora's Death Row," which is regretful, but also excited, when he remembers what he did to get there! (And the music def concurs.)That's on West Of The West, subtitled Songs From California Songwriters. Mostly good, but I won't say more now cos might be reviewing it. When I lived in Louisville, the natives would sometimes come out with some bizarre 'billy thang, story, expression, or just extra twang, to let the yankee know: "You on our side of the river now, Buckeye".(Of course, the Greater Cincinnati Airport was on our side too.) Later, The Pagans' Mike Hudson wrote in CLE about how Ohio citydwellers were always worried about 'billies swarming into town and taking all the jobs, so yeah, not surprised there's a ridge between my mountain kin and others. However (to some extent), country singers from Thurber Country include Bobby Bare and David Allan Coe. H'mmm...

don (dow), Saturday, 13 January 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

(Can I include Coe's birthplace of Akron as "Thurber Country," even though Thurber, who was at least as unsettling and sometimes malevolent prescence as Coe ever pretended to be, at least judging by some bios and memoirs of co-workers, like Brendan Gill's Here At The New Yorker, was from Columbus, AKA Cowtown? Yes, cos a state of mind etc, and the Brit crit who summed up the brief Akroncore hype as presenting " a smelly Oz," though didn't mean it in a bad way). Also, Steubenville's own Dean Martin, at least perthose Colletors Choice reissues on xxhuxx's his Nashville ballot. Anthony, I'll check the stripper book and also, do you know about the album Songs From Chippy, stage review of songs by Jo Carol Pierce, Terry Allen, Joe Ely, Butch Hancock, Wayne Hancock, Robert Earl Keen, based on passages from The Chippy Diaries, actual diaries of women who worked the labor camps and boomtowns. And you especially might get into the comic but serious supermarket cosmography of Jo Carol's Bad Girls Upset By The Truth (only way I'll go to Hell is with Jo Carol as my guide).

don (dow), Saturday, 13 January 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno, Money had way better singles in the '80s than Seger (forget the '90s for both of them). And Seger's grunting on most of his new album is painful. But still, yeah, it is still probably better than Eddie's latest, on ambition alone (plus some of it kinda rocks.) And Bob seemed amazingly nice when I talked to him last fall. (His kids are due to go to West Bloomfield High School, where I went; he lives in Orchard Lake -- presumably on the lake, though I can't absolutely vouch for the latter.) (In the middle of Orchard Lake is Apple Island, which back in high school we were led to believe was the only school-district-owned island in the country, though in retrospect that may well have been a suburban myth.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

Willowz, Chautauqua, coming out on Dim Mak -- definitely more recognizably country than any of the other indie-rock stuff I've been gabbing about here. Also stodgier than most of it. As I recall (somebody should check this) Marcus and Christgau are both fans. I thought their debut EP a couple years ago was kinda fun, and their debut album later was consistently crafty, but this followup's mostly leaving me cold despite (or because of?) moving in a more blues and Appalachian direction. Mostly they sound like White Stripes except less good, except for the song (track #8) where they sound like Smashmouth but less good. #10 had some nice exploratory guitar in it though. (On my advance the song titles are only on the disc, not on the sleeve. Disc's still in changer, but not for long.)

"The Ballad of The Smoking Gun" on Tigers & Monkeys' album has a very cool (and very blatant) Ricky Wilson type guitar twang making it dance. "From Where I Stood" is a nice alt-countryish slow one.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 01:21 (eighteen years ago)

Or maybe Willowz sound like the Kills? (Who have never been all that exciting themselves?) (Which reminds me: Don't lots of Royal Trux fans claim White Stripes didn't do anything Royal Trux hadn't done first? Nothing I've ever heard by Royal Trux supports such a claim.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:33 (eighteen years ago)

(so like for instance "siren song" on the willowz album is a blatant old-timey jigging move with run-of-the-mill tuff-blooze-mama yowling atop, no fun at all and a lot less jubilantly poppy than when these kids were actually still kids, as i recall. the smashmouthy track is called "all i need"; the guitar jam is in "choose a side"; etc.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:20 (eighteen years ago)

(so i guess what i'm also trying to get at with a notable lack of coherence is that, whereas those first two willowz records were at least marked by a certain sense of possibility and discovery -- which sense i still hear to some extent in tigers & monkeys etc. -- the new album seems all shtick, and not even interesting shtick at that. though if somebody else hears it otherwise, i'll happily to go back and listen again. as is, they seem like yet another promising band who peaked with their debut EP then slid downhill from there.)

(and p.s: no, smashmouth really aren't very good in the first place.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)

looking at all your year-end ballots, i was struck by the complete absence of danielle peck, who made a few of my favorite songs last year (the somewhat sappy but incredibly sexy "kiss you on the mouth," the rocking kiss-off tune "sucks to be you," the rollicking "findin' a good man"). she doesn't show up anywhere on the 2006 rolling country thread either, save for an appearance in a lengthy radio airplay chart that xhuxk posted. did that album simply have no traction, no presence, or did people hear it and not like it?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 14 January 2007 05:34 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking personally, fact checkking cuz, I like the album and I like "Finding a Good Man", but neither are top 10 material, as far as I'm concerned. Just not personally my favorite type of country.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:01 (eighteen years ago)

why did no one tell me that gene pitneys mecca is so genius

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

I'm still waiting (and wanting) to hear Danielle Peck. (I still haven't heard the Taylor Swift album, either. Ditto the Wreckers; ditto '06's Sugarland; ditto '06's Shedaisy. Someday maybe I'll find cheap copies. And those are just the beginning of the list...)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

*Don't lots of Royal Trux fans claim White Stripes didn't do anything Royal Trux hadn't done first?*

interesting: last night sharon and I were talking about the white stripes and their antecedents, and she dismissed jack and his rhythmically challenged wife/sister: "they didn't do anything the flat duo jets didn't do years before." I dunno about royal trux, but I do like royal crescent mob!

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 14 January 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

I saw Flat Duo Jets live once in the early '90s in Philly. They were okay, I suppose. But just like Royal Trux: No songs that stuck. Whereas White Stripes have plenty. (Maybe to people who don't care about singing or tunes or hooks, White Stripes were just a ripoff?)

In unrelated news (though somewhat related to the Willowz' blooze-mama schtick maybe), I just listened to and couldn't stand the Amy Winehouse album (or the parts of it I could make it through before I gave up, anyway.) Strained-vocal "fine taste" "soul" malarkey from the UK; comes complete with obligatory Billie Holiday comparisons. Huge over there, apparently; could well hit here. Let's hope not.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

I reviewed the new Sexsmith for our New Times: I think I compared him to Macca without the "abject cluelessness before existence"--though I'm not sure what I meant by that. More that he's good with a melody and a sentiment, and sometimes makes existential considerations stick, but that he's hopelessly vague. New record doesn't benefit from reunion with Froom. His first album is still a keeper, though, and you could make a lovely Best Of with a couple songs from each of the rest.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

xp: Come to think of it, I guess that FDJets show I saw was more mid '90s. And again, it's possible their records were better than I remember; maybe they did have songs that deserved to get on the radio. But I doubt it. (Also not sure what they or Royal Trux did that, say, Hi Sheriffs Of Blue or the Gibson Bros. hadn't done before. And not sure what those bands did that Flamin Groovies hadn't done before. And so on and so forth, back to actual blues by black people.) (Who cares if they weren't all duos; I'm talking about the sound, not the trappings.) (There are also Detroiters who say White Stripes owe it all to the Gories, who as far as I've been able to discern basically amounted to a half-assed Cramps ripoff, and hardly the first half-assed Cramps ripoff from Detroit either.)

So, back to "actual" country: I'm definitely liking Jason Michael Carrol's rockers ("Waitin in the Country," "I Can Sleep When I'm Dead," "Honky Tonk Friends", and especially the yeah slightly rap-like "Anywhere U.S.A.") over his ballads ("Alyssa Lies," "Love Won't Let Me," "Let It Rain.") Though maybe the latter just need more time.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't have much use for that Alvin album (save the version of John Stewart's "California Bloodlines"); the whole thing really drags and he has little-to-zero voice for interpretation. Also: Tom Russell has not been a positive influence.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

I had the first Flat Duo Jets record, and saw 'em live once (opening for the equally overrated Jon Spencer Blues Explosion). They were okay but totally forgettable.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

(Ha, Jon Spencer Blue Explosion! Completely forgot about them! Yet another band who couldn't write a song to save their lives -- or wouldn't, anyway, because Jon was too busy with his stupid minstrel-shout shtick -- who White Stripes allegedly "ripped off".)

So Edd, have you figured out what exactly Alyssa is lying about in "Allysa Lies"? It's growing on me now just 'cause I'm intrigued by the apparent mystery of it, but maybe I just haven't listened closedly enough. If she a victim of sexual abuse? Bulimia? Cutting? Or is she just a chronic liar? (Her and her wife, Morgan Fairchild?)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

top four typos in previous post:

1. Blue
2. Allysa
3. closedly
4. If

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

Actually Jason Michael Carrol's talk parts are way more Eddie Rabbit than rap (though he might not be complaining when he refers to "big city hip-hop wailing when I stop," presumedly with his car.)

Maybe when Alysa lies in the classroom she's lying down (as i taking a nap.) (Totally permitted if she's in Kindergarten!)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

I like "Alyssa Lies", but yeah I'm not close to understand what's going on with it.

My goal this year is to stay up on current country, because I've been really loving this genre lately. But only for the last 1.5 years or so so I have a lot of "catching up" to do, hence the G. Brooks comments above.

OK the Greg Fanoe crash course in modern country is continuing now with Martina McBride. I was expecting to like her stuff a lot, based on the first few singles that I heard, but on first listen, none of her albums really struck me. "Independence Day", "This One's For The Girls", "When God Fearin' Women Get the Blues" I absolutely love though. I haven't liked her ballads enough because I think they rely on the strength of her voice too much, to the detriment of the songs tehmselves. "Learning to Fall" is good though.

If anybody has any suggestions at all for any essential country albums from the 90s and 00s (and nothing is too obvious/canonical that I would clearly be familiar with it, short of Dixie Chicks or Shania [both of which I love]), I'll check out any and all suggestions. Otherwise, I'll proceed in essentially random order. I think Vince Gill is up next, once I've had more time to process Martina and Garth.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 15 January 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

And sorry about this, I promise not to tie up this thread with boring "Greg's Tour Through Country" posts too much.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

But why Vince? He's as in-one-ear-out-the-other antispeptic as they come! Maybe that's what people like about him? (Uh, I think I liked a duet he did with Amy Grant once. But Amy was better without him.) (And I admittedly never heard his four-disc set. Life is too short.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:10 (eighteen years ago)

I'm guessing that Alyssa is a little girl who's being abused, and who is eventually killed, the point being that someone should have noticed earlier and done something to put a stop to it. I could be very wrong about that, mind, it's not very clear.

I also think that Jason Michael Carroll should get his bleedin' hair cut, though I suppose that's his business.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

I checked the lyrics on line, and figured it out:

Okay, so basically "Allysa Lies" is "Luka," until Allysa dies:

"Alyssa lies to the classroom,
Alyssa lies everyday at school,
Alyssa lies to the teachers
as she tries to cover every bruise"

What makes it hard to decipher is how Jason mumbles that "bruise" line.

And "Lookin' At You" is Jason's Kenny Chesney-via-"Sharks" by Jimmy Buffet summer-sun move. I like when he runs into the mailbox, I like the baseball line that (probably) inadvertently echoes "Brown Eyed Handsome Man", and I like the three of four seconds of melody that even more inadvertently echo Ryan Paris's Italodisc classic "Dolce Vita," but I'm still not sure it adds up to all that good a song.

And I totally agree about the dude's hair. He looks like he should making Shawn Mullins type music (though maybe he sometimes sorta is.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

(Greg, the nice people here are used to tolerating my know-nothingness as I keep trying to get a handle on what's going on in country, but then I'm British so at least I have an excuse of sorts. I've been having variable luck using the listings of classic contemporary country LPs here:

http://countryuniverse.wordpress.com/tag/classic-albums/ )

I'm still really enjoying this Sunny Sweeney record, which it seems has been picked up by someone or other for proper release later this year: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sunnysweeney . Just as I was patting myself on the back for winkling out an obscure gem by scouring blog lists and so on, I read that she is on heavy rotation on the ultradull UK Radio 2 country show hosted by old beardo "Whispering" Bob Harris. BAH!

Tim (Tim), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, another Jason Michael Carrol question: In "Anywhere USA," does he say what kind of music the teen queen out past her curfew in her painted on blue jeans and powder-blue Subaru is listening to? One line sounds like it might be the Eagles, but I might be imagining that; he definitely says she's "bouncing to the beat, yo," so maybe it's hip-hop. More likely, though, he doesn't specify it at all.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

That's a question which only those of you with access to promo copies or modern-young-people's-file-sharing will have a chance of answering.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

I like Tigers and Monkeys, mostly because the songs remind me of the mid-1980s and because she's a good singer and kinda indie-cute

In that case you should check out this NYC band too (whose new album Born Too Late -- debut full-length after so many demo EPs and singles I lost count -- I also like) (caveat: no country here that I can discern; maybe they'd make more sense on the teenpop thread):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=3425560

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

they're cute all right but this is what caught my eye on their MySpace page: "The Clash, Shangri-Las, Adverts, Talking Heads, Beatles, Shirelles, Blondie, Pretenders, Libertines, and much much more." DING DING DING

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

AND their semi-title-track "Born Too Late 1978" seemingly gets its bassline from Motown via the Jam's "Town Called Malice" and its title from Mott the Hoople. (My other favorites on the album are probably "Hollow Tooth," "Tickle My Spine," "Last Man" which turns into Suzi Quatro's version of "I Wanna Be Your Man" at the end, and perhaps "Kids" and "Ballad of the 9th Precinct.")

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Greg - I've played a similar game of catch-up the past couple of years as far as trying to get abreast of pop-country. From my own experience I can tell you I didn't get a whole lot out of Clint Black or George Strait (though possibly I was listening to the wrong stuff), but I instantly adored almost everything I heard from Alan Jackson. I found a good bit that I liked from McBride as well as Lee Ann Womack, Brooks and Dunn, and Faith Hill, and had pretty much hit-or-miss success with Tim McGraw and Randy Travis.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'd say Jackson's career (though less so lately, with his new album) is nearly as spotty as Randy Travis's or George Strait's, and Tim McGraw's is way more consistent than any of those guys. (Any of Tim's last five albums is worth owning -- one reason I'm stumped by the people who feel he needed a best-of last year) (So actually, he may be up there with Toby Keith and Montgomery Gentry et. al. in the most-consistent-artist-of-decade sweepstakes, come to think of it.)

Martina McBride's got a decent Greatest Hits set from 2001 that's worth picking up, though yeah, that's before her great "This One's For the Girls," which is a shame. You already named her three best songs; I'd likely put "Love's the Only House" in fourth place.

Turns out the best tracks on Tigers and Monkeys' album ("Loose Mouth," "Rave On," "The Ballad of the Smoking Gun") are among their least alt-or-whatever country. "Stay Up" and "Sweet William" and "From Where I Stand" jangle a bit, though not very compellingly.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

(And "Sweet William" is sadly not a cover of the Millie Small oldie.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

(Though checking reminds me that McGraw's career pinnacle A Place in the Sun came out pre-'00s, in 1999. So he'd be a step or two below MG or TK {and maybe the Dixie Chicks} in this decade at least.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, xhuxk, I'm really loving these three songs. A couple months ago, for something unrelated, I was sketching out my top 10 country singles of the decade (based on my still very incomplete knowledge, of course) and as I recall "This One's For the Girls" and "When God Fearin Women Get the Blues" were both on the shortlist. (I never did finish making the list, but I had settled on "Suds in the Bucket" and "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)" as numbers 1 and 2).

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't get a whole lot out of Clint Black or George Strait (though possibly I was listening to the wrong stuff)

the song that made me fall in love with george strait (and, yeah, he has been spotty) is "amarillo by morning." i'm also quite in love with the soft, almost yacht-rocky "it just comes natural," the title cut of his 2006 album.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

yeah "it just comes natural" was on my country ballot, it sounds great on the radio

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

"amarillo by morning" is indeed awesomely glen-campbell-worthy, as is "the cowboy rides away." beyond that, i've never been convinced. (but this is far from the first time i've said this, and it's not like i've been dilligent in keeping up with the guy, so who knows?_

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I mentioned Daryle Singletary Straight From The Heart (Shanachie) up above. I have no memory of his '90s hits, though supposedly (Edd said, I think) they were pretty good. New album's almost all covers (same strategy with the David Ball and Confederate Railroad albums Shanachie's putting out this season, neither of which I've heard), but the single ("Still Sing This Way," about how Daryle's willing to sell out to pop if his label wants him to but it won't work because he drawls too much) is an original, and may well be the first great country single of 2007. Other songs I like can be split between ones I've heard versions of before (Merle's "Bottle Let Me Down," John Anderson's "Black Sheep," Buck's "I've Got A Tiger By The Tail") and ones I haven't heard versions of before (Keith Whitley's "Miami, My Amy," somebody's "Lovin' On the Back Streets," somebody's "Fifteen Years Ago.") Which leaves a few more songs I don't really care about, though one of them ("Jesus And Bartenders") has a great title regardless. A real nice album overall.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

That's good to hear. I've always kinda liked Singletary. What's he doing on Shanachie?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 15 January 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Greg, for probably too many contemporary country suggestions than you're looking for, check out the best albums & singles 1989-2006 lists at countryuniverse.com. Personally, I'd suggest the last three Gary Allan CDs.

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Monday, 15 January 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, that's countryuniverse.net

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Monday, 15 January 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'll second those last three Gary Allans. (So he'd be in the running for '00s etc etc etc too.) I need to catch up with his '90s output one of these days -- The album I found in Princeton last year was pretty good, but don't people swear by Smoke Rings In The Dark or whatever it was called? Don't think I've ever heard that.

As for Shanachie, the label's clearly branching out. (They've got '90s r&b stars Silk now, too -- also doing mostly cover songs.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 15 January 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

That countryuniverse.net guy (Kevin) has rated Up above Come On Over which baffles me. Paul W Dennis has rated The Woman In Me above Come On Over which I disagree with but at least understand. Anyways, Come On Over maybe I can't be objective about but well before I liked country music I loved this album. It was the first country album I really loved, and the last modern mainstream country album I would love for at least 5 more years. The singles still hold up; I still consider "You're Still The One" to be one of the all time great country ballads, while "Whatever You Do! Don't!" et al still stand up as great upbeat tunes.

I see that Kevin has rated Martina's Wild Angels at number 20 on this list, so maybe I should give that one a shot too. Even if his review does contain a completely unnecessary and unwarranted swipe at poor Mariah Carey.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 15 January 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Had to reset my password to be able to post again, but glad to be back on the rolling thread!

Regarding Up vs. Come On Over, I rated the former higher for a couple of reasons. I thought the sheer scope of the project - the entire conceit of releasing three different versions of the same album - was wildly creative and pulled off very well. More importantly, I thought the songs were stronger and Twain's vocals were the best she's put down on record before or since. I love "You're Still the One" and "You've Got a Way", but I think "Forever and For Always" and "It Only Hurts When I'm Breathing" showcase her singing ability more.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority on that one, but I always seem to be on things like that.

As far as the Mariah swipe, maybe it's just me, but there was a stretch there where Mariah's songs were all sounding the same - 'Dreamlover', 'Fantasy', 'Heartbreaker' - and I think Martina's been doing the same thing. "Whatever You Say"="Where Would You Be"="How Far".

Kevin C. (Kevin C.), Monday, 15 January 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, that's a fair point on Up. Can't have a 100% consensus list. Actually that's not as unfair a comment on Mariah as I had initially thought (and it's definitely not just you). Mariah of that time period (mid 90s to early 00s), though, in all fairness, had probably the lowest ratio of quality of singles to quality of nonsingles of all time. She consistently avoided her best songs as singles. Still if Martina has an album as good as Mariah's Emotions I'll be surprised. Though I realize I'm almost as much a minority on that as you are on Up.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 15 January 2007 23:39 (eighteen years ago)

I remember the Emotions album. I was uber-aware of pop music around that time period, and was just getting into country. I remember there being a great song on there called "If It's Over." And I liked the single "Can't Let Go."

Kevin C. (Kevin C.), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

xp: So I decided neither of the two Little Texas CDs I bought and mentioned upthread are worth keeping. They truly were wimps -- like sub-Firefall Eagles wannabees or something, with Warrant hair on some of them but sadly no Warrant rock. "Amy's Back In Austin," "My Love," and "My Town" are okay; if they were all on the CD, I might keep it, but they're not. (I'd noticed last year that they were the favorite '90s country-pop band of some funny guy who posted lots of '80s quarterflash/springfield/.38 special-style pop-rock videos on youtube, and that got my hopes up, but they didn't live up to it.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 00:57 (eighteen years ago)

xhuxk,

Since you're digging the Kim Richey, try to locate her self-titled debut and "Rise", which are both awesome.

Pam Tillis' studio albums are also worth seeking out, and you can usually find them cheap.

Kevin C. (Kevin C.), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

i sent this in an email to edd, when we were in the sandbox, seeing the renewed interest in tim and company, i thot i would post it here...


Being a star is difficult, being a star and being a housewife is even harder. As for Tim McGraw, I think that you are missing the earnestness, the ability to present some pretty radical ideas in really nice packaging (ie the pro choice ballad red rag top, or the small town ennui anthem drugs or jesus), he has a really interesting voice, smooth and rich, with no real difficulties, which is nice to hear some times (over and over again, with nelly is a really good example of two excellent well constructed voices playing against each other, like we never loved at all is so gloss, and that gloss covers so much pain, and is so ott, camp melodramatic, while still havnig somethnig at stake, that it might as well be dionne warwick or diana ross (though i dont know if you have any truck with either of those artists), and there is also something to be written about the politics of straight masculinity, how vulenrable he can be, and how raw his emotions can be about issues that men are allowed to be vulenrable about (esp fathers). He is also incredibly fuckable , esp in the Cowboy in Me video, the best bit of wankable starmaking appatarus in a v. long time.

In conclusion, etc...I think that Tim Mcgraw has one of the strongest voices today, smooth and strong, with just enough kick; that his desire towards a kind of laconic emotional rawness threads the needle b/w not saying anything and saying too much, that his politics are intriuging in the extreme, that he is allowed to say things that other country artists arent, express doubts that seem verboten in mainstream nashville, and i really want to fuck him.

Frank might be right, in that his ballad might not be country enough for the scene, and i think it hits other buttons than country, but I think that its operatic, florid, emotional bloodletting, is a masterpeice, and used both their voices to prime effect....i dont know who did production there, but it deserves a nod just for that...(the piano in the beginning, and the use of high hats, and then letting her have that first word, with pusing out the word you, and the use of city lights, marking its sheer urbanity as a radical departure---and the line "I'm still living with your goodbyes/and your just going on with your life" is so amusingly passive agressive, and then instead of combating each other on verses, which would make sense, they wrestle with the text, adn each other, its too close, claustrophically close, for that first verse, and then he plays catch up, Tim McGraw working as puncation and accent here, is egoless, or sublimates his ego to his wife, and makes the track much stronger)

thats me defending tim, what do you make?
ase

pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 05:03 (eighteen years ago)

(Are any of you aware of anywhere in the interweb which gives long-ish range listings of shows coming up in Nashville or nearby? I'm planning another visit in March and, since the dates of the trip are flexible, would prefer not to miss out on some marvellous show by a day, through lack of planning.)

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

*So Edd, have you figured out what exactly Alyssa is lying about in "Allysa Lies"?*

well you got it already I think Chuck, it's about child abuse, I guess by her (divorced) (one's meth-addicted) (lower-middle-class) parents.
and on j.m. carroll's "anywhere u.s.a," I don't hear any specific reference to what the boys and girls are listening to, beyond "beat-yo." a great piece of pop, better than anything cheap trick could come up with, a really good production and a perfected kind of quasi-rap fast-talkin' jamming those syllables in to show that country singers got their own way of taking care of business quick song, down to the way jmc repeats "talkin' about," just so very accomplished. I like this album more and more, except I guess I hate "alyssa," OK, she is dead and child abuse is terrible. he (carroll) has a nice vocal trick all mock-grave bending down into his baritone range, and he sounds like an average guy enjoying his plot of land out in the new rural suburbia. but no, don't hear a band--I guess there's a list of perfumes for both sexes in this song, I think that's what he's saying in the 2 verses? I do hear "chattanooga to l.a.," substitute jmc's n. carolina (western) to nashville by way of the mythic properties of california perfume, and you might have it. even "love won't let me" doesn't totally suck as a ballad, usually I don't like them, but this one even has a cool key change and I like the guitar figure.

above, someone asked about gary allan. even his first record, the one with his version of a faron young song, is prime, easily as good as anything yoakam did, the same kind of cooled-out california country, played for moderate drama. "smoke rings" is a great one, too. the best one after "tough all over" is "see if I care," I'd say, the most varied, and like all of his records, cooled-out and tough-minded.

xps

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

Madly off topic but: the forthcoming Mavis Staples album on Anti- is all that and a big bag of soul food, or food for the soul, and I don't care how quaint that sounds. It's funky. Sounds good enough that the thick but precise history/politics are almost beside the point (though they're most definitely not). Best album I've heard this year--by many lengths.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

Tim: this only goes through end of Feb and is mostly indie stuff, but maybe they'll up date to March soon:
http://nashville.tourfilter.com/
also:
Pollstar for Nashville shows in March
and check the Nashville Scene web site. They may have some March in the calendar section.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 23:48 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks Roy! As a direct result of your help, I may end up taking a trip to Mcminnville to see Charlie Louvin, that might be extremely exciting. It might not, obv, but it's got to be worth a whirl.

Have any of you promo-getting types heard Charlie L's forthcoming LP? Any thoughts?

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

think charlie lives in manchester, tenn., in a house built into the side of a mountain. no windows. heard louvin's record, very understated, kind of zen-like, with great brief vocals by everyone from george jones to eef barzelay and tift merritt and tom t. hall. you can go see charlie out at the old opryland, where the opry house is these days, northeast of town, he does his thing there most weekends.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

Tim, I just realized Loretta Lynn is playing at the Opry the same night as Charlie Louvin. Well, perhaps we'll have enough time to drive out to to her ranch.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

Just got a promo of The Definitive Collection by the Stanley Brothers, three discs, have listened to disc one. I like everything, but nonetheless very little stands out distinctively so far, most of the problem being my relative unfamiliarity with the genre (late '40s and early '50s bluegrass, if the tracks are in chronological order [the promo material doesn't give that info]). As a child I'd always enjoyed the fast banjo charges on old Kingston Trio records, but I also think that the Trio were sparing in when to use them. Not that the Stanley Brothers are fundamentally banjo charges by any means. Fiddle seems at least as crucial an instrument, and they've got plenty of slow and midtempo songs. I do feel they might be better with less going on in the instruments, and my favorite track is the one that subdues the accompaniment: "Get Down On Your Knees And Pray," which, though starting with bona fide country plinks, is a good attempt at black four-part gospel. The instruments mostly stick to strums and simple runs; some moments are completely a capella. The high voice goes for a country blues poignancy - I mean "country blues" as in singers like Tommy Johnson and Robert Johnson - which is fairly rare (I think, correct me if I'm wrong) in black gospel, much less white gospel by a bluegrass group. So there's a high voice finding its way to delicacy and passion, and lower voices supporting and punctuating with bursts of harmony.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:56 (eighteen years ago)

Chuck, you like the Tigers & Monkeys singer because she reminds you of Christina Amphlett and LeAnne Kingwell.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:05 (eighteen years ago)

Had no idea upthread whom you were talking about with this Over The Rhine business, then decided that I'd probably heard them and probably had made no attempt to like them. That's all I remember. If I even remember that.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:07 (eighteen years ago)

I heard "Alyssa Lies" during my country singles cram-sessions in December, thought it was mawkish and obvious in both singing and words, and so basically my mouth was hanging open when some of you couldn't figure it out. Haven't heard anything else by the guy.

I highly recommend "You Think You Know Somebody" on the Todd Snider retrospective; won't say anything more about it, since I thought I knew where it was going (sentimental lyrics about a longstanding friendship) and then it completely caught me by surprise, and I had to relisten, this time noticing the hints... However, would be better if Mellencamp or someone like that were singing, since Snider's just not a singer (I mean, he's in tune all right, just isn't able to project much character). But his songs are worth knowing, even when his liberalism is too self-congratulatory, which isn't always.

Not in regard to country: Mariah Carey's Emotions may be my favorite album of the '90s, even though she's not particularly my sensibility.* Delivers hot emotions (and rides some hot beats) while basically heaving her voice across the sky and making no attempt to be responsible to melodies or messages, which manage to come through anyway. (But her best track is the live version of "Can't Let Go" on MTV Unplugged.)

[*Er, at this point, "even though" might be changed to "naturally enough," given that I don't know if there's anyone with my sensibility making great music][whatever I mean by "my sensibility"][and actually Brie Larson and Skye Sweetnam have had a few great moments, and I'd bet they and I have lots in common]

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 19 January 2007 07:01 (eighteen years ago)

one of these days I'll really figure out bluegrass, but for now, it's a bit math-rock to these ears. I think I like the singing more than I used to, and intellectually I get the rhythms. just sounds uptight to me, I think.
that jason m. carroll record is actually pretty strong, overall. "alyssa" strikes me as Bad Popular Art, though. (there is a great song to be written about some aspect of the fascination with, say, the jon benet ramsey case or some such--I was fairly gripped by a recent special about that case, and how it appears that *no one* will ever pay for killing her. and of course, the upper-middle-class backdrop of that is weird as well as has not much to do with the setting for "alyssa," which is probably about like where I live. a lot of people from the outside world, via ft. campbell, mixing with old guard folks in overcrowded schools and so forth, another great subject.)

grooving on Ira Louvin's 1965 solo recordings made shortly before his death in an automobile crash. best by far is "empty bottle and a broken heart," just superb, and they let him play mandolin on it, sounds like. some of the other stuff is way gooped up with chorales, but he was a great singer, maybe better than charlie.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

I know this isn't exactly of 2007 (though it counts for 2006), but I just got Hank Jr.'s That's How They Do It In Dixie: The Essential Collection, and OH MY GOD. I picked it up off eBay mainly for its title track (which should've been my #1 single in the Nashville Scene poll but was #2 instead, behind Cash), but most of it's new to me, as I've never paid ol' Jr. much attention before, other than to sneer "Oh, him, he's just a popular redneck," etc. I WAS AN IDIOT.

There's damned near not a weak track to be found here - though granted, it's way too short at only 2 tracks, with 2 of 'em new. "Born to Boogie" and "All My Rowdy Friends" are genius, almost country-big band fusion (listen to those HORNS on "Boogie"! And this was a huge country hit!) - xhuxk, I'd imagine that these are RIGHT up your alley, am I right? "A Country Boy Can Survive" and "Country State of Mind" are superb odes to, well, country livin' - but they pull it off without coming off as supremely asshat. I mean, even though I'm an El Lay guy now, I was raised on a midwestern farm and I get 'em. And "Women I've Never Had" is practically Louisiana jazz, good God.

I've already put in a bid on his 2000 'Bocephus Box' (the one covering '79-'99) on eBay. I must have MORE! And he kinda invented country-rock as we now know it, didn't he? (Not to mention Kid Rock.)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Not to mention his "Major Moves" album, which inspired the much-younger me to write a deep meaningful short story about a westerner-living-in-the-east-type guy on a let's-explore-the-west roadtrip with a Liz Wurtzel type, he ends up deciding that Hank Sr. and Hank Jr. are both necessary parts of America. OH MY GOD FOR A TIME MACHINE AND A TIRE IRON.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

I SO want to read that story now, while listening to Major Moves.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

No you bloody well do not. Many run-on sentences, much pretention in the vocab, lots of "insight" that everyone else already had first.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

FRank, if you find out you like the stanley brothers, Roscoe Holcomb should be your next step, lonesome howling, with some really isolating spareness, not raw at all, but almost intended as private music for insular people, what he does to his voice though, is quite remarkable
http://www.amazon.com/High-Lonesome-Sound-Roscoe-Holcomb/dp/B000001DK0/ref=m_art_li_0/105-1274964-6546804

heres a link to the album, and im TO now, but i will burn you the cd when i get home.(i actually have a cd burner, so people expect mixtapes)

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 20 January 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, bluegrass = the Joe Satriani or Yngwie Malmsteen of country. Usually. At least that's how it seems to me 95 percent of the time, at least. And I know I'm probably missing out on some great music by assuming that, but I still ain't gonna put on that new Tony Trischka CD on Rounder with a daunting "double banjo" in its title, even if Nate Chinen does think the Bella Fleck collaboration is a highlight.

And I just posted this on the rolling metal thread:

I finally heard the Gilby Clarke album from last year (not that I was especially looking forward to listening to it or anything -- it just basically showed up free and unnanounced at work, so I bit.) It's less bad than I expected; as post-sleaze-glam singer-songwriter stuff goes, I'd take it over, say, the new Jesse Malin album (which includes bad Springsteen cameos and a worse Replacements cover). But it still leans too much toward singer-songwriter, not enough toward sleaze-glam to my ears. Seems to improve slightly when it veers slightly toward country rock (i.e. in "Skin N Bones"), but even that just reminds me how much more fun Shooter Jennings makes such stuff.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

Good lord, xhuxk: maybe too many contemporary newgrassers have surrendered to the wank, but what do the foundational bluegrass artists--from Bill Monroe to Doyle Lawson and everything in between--have to do with any of that bullshit?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

Casey Driessen's 3D album from last year was really good, minimal wankage considering he's throwing synths and sitars in with the bluegrass. Same with Michael McGoldrick's stuff, except MM is using Celtic music instead of bluegrass.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

The wank was always there, as far as I can hear. (Trishka and Fleck and those geeks just take it to heretofore unheard of extremes.)

Great song I'd never heard before on the new Travis Tritt best-of CD (on which I otherwise haven't found much to enjoy yet, including its dime-a-dozen Marty Stuart duet): "Where The Corn Don't Grow." (I still totally approve of "Lord Have Mercy On The Working Man"'s update of Blind Alfred Reed style depression country blues, though.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

I always think I'm going to enjoy Travis Tritt a whole lot of more than I actually do. I still rep for "Here's a Quarter" though.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

I don't hear much wank in three decades of hook-tight 2:30 singles but my milage obviously varies.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

I like how the Duhks, Donna the Buffalo, the Greencards, etc., put bluegrass licks to use in the course of doing actual songs. (When they do, that is; they're all way spottier than I wish they were.) Ricky Skaggs has made a few real nice albums. Appalachian Stomp: Bluegrass Classics (Rhino, 1995, 18 songs) holds my attention as often as not. So I'm not saying I hate all bluegrass! Just most of it. (As country subgenres go, it's definitely one my least favorite.)

New Yolanda Perez album Te Sigo Amando is her most straight banda record, with the least hippity-hoppy parts, and so far seems her dullest album so far. Sounds like a maturity move or something. She was already heading this direction on her previous album, in a way, but this time she seems to have jumped the shark. None of it sounds bad per say, but not a single song has jumped out and got me excited yet either. (As tubas go, I probably prefer "Keep On Coming" on the otherwise generally useless new Ying Yang Twins album, in which the tuba sounds may or may not be made by actual tubas. The rest of the CD is a good argument against marijuana use, though. Or collard green use, as the Ying Yangs are calling it now.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

waiting on the perez, I like banda more than you do. plus I LOVE BOREDOM.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

"Where The Corn Don't Grow."

fantastic song, originally done by waylon jennings (never heard waylon's version, though). and, apropos of all the bluegrass talk, it was also covered by the grascals on their 2005 self-titled debut. travis' version is way better than that one.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

"I Can Sleep When I'm Dead" (howdy Warren Zevon!)

For whatever it's worth, the new album by longtime undie-rap bore El-P is called I'll Sleep When You're Dead, I just found out.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

and don't forget current nashville star bon jovi's "i'll sleep when i'm dead."

fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

wait, it looks like they've already not been forgotten! (howdy roy kasten!)

fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

I still rep for "Here's a Quarter" though

Yeah, I like that one too. And "Country Club" is fun, and the power ballad "Anymore" is well-sung at least. So there's enough on the Travis Tritt best-of to hang on to it, I guess. But just barely.

The Basement are Brits trying (their press release says, and you can kind of hear it in their attempt at doing a loose rollicking brothel shamble) a Band/Basement Tapes (press bio says Flying Burrito Brothers too, sure why not) kind of sound. Being Limeys, they have trouble rocking it like (even) the Deadly Snakes did on their (maybe only) good album Ode To Joy a few years ago. Singer isn't awful, but he's not-awful more in a second-tier Auteurs or Only Ones imitator kind of way than a third-tier Dylan imititator kind of way.

Taylor Swift album sounds great. Apparently Frank wasn't fibbing. So far my favorite is the song where she keeps a boy out past curfew.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 21 January 2007 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

Had a nice haul from the album store the other day that I've been listening to.

Montgomery Gentry - Carrying On: I had heard most of the songs on this one through various means, but never all at once together. This is a truly great album, one of the best country albums I've heard. "Cold One Coming On" sounds even better on the album than it does as a single. Stellar.

Gary Allan - Tough All Over: Only listened to it once, so clearly no time to absorb it yet, but on first listen it was, in fact, as good as advertised. Well worth the investment.

I also purchased Sheryl Crow and The Globe Sessions, both by Sheryl Crow, on the basis of the singles. I never thought of her as country at all, but I once saw her listed on a CMT list of "Hottest Female Country Stars" or whatever (she was #4, behind Shania, Faith, and Sara Evans). To be sure, there are definitely some country songs on both of these (e.g. "Mississippi", "Redemption Day"), and they are mostly very good. I'm not sold that "has some country songs"="is a country artist", but whatever. In any event, they are both great albums, especially Sheryl Crow.

Between these four albums, and Emotions, which I also purchased (coincidentally right before Frank was talking about it above), I'm not sure there was a not-at least very good song I heard, though some of the tracks on The Globe Sessions that are definitely not as good as the others.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Sunday, 21 January 2007 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

actually I now realize that's not a coincidence at all because I mentioned Mariah Carey because I had just bought this album and Frank mentioned it because I did.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Sunday, 21 January 2007 03:59 (eighteen years ago)

Listening to Jesse Sykes And The Sweet Hereafter. Weird voice, high and harsh in a way that's not altogether unlike recent stuff by the similarly monikered Jessi Colter (I'm not Jessi, my name is Jesse), though seems weirder and harsher than Colter's, as if Jesse had her teeth knocked out and is gumming the words. I don't know what I think yet. So far I'd say Sykes' voice feels like a mask whereas Colter's has character. But I might just be reacting negatively to the fact that weirdness has become an alt cliché (Paste calls her "country gothic" and Magnet calls her vocals "shamanistic"). Donning a mask is an interesting choice, anyway. Grief mask, fright mask, demonic mask. Mannerisms as an attempt at nonstandard forms of expression. I won't say she's not striking. And not only do she and her band list the requisite Hazlewoods and Haggards in her influence section, they also include Television and Skynyrd and Pigpen-era Dead. I'll see where repeated listens take me. She streams her album in full here.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 21 January 2007 06:02 (eighteen years ago)

I think that Sheryl's "country" because some country singers are now sounding like her. The Globe Sessions may be her last great record, unfortunately. She's gone real pale and dull in the '00s, while sometimes collaborating with the normally nonpale John Shanks. But Shanks is in the show mainly as producer and instrumentalist, not songwriter. (Shanks also produced and played on but did not help write the Wreckers' hit "Leave The Pieces," which isn't close to the best thing on their album.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 21 January 2007 06:34 (eighteen years ago)

For a while there I thought Crow--a country girl from deep Missouri/Arkansas--might turn getting burned by the world's greatest athlete into a good record, but the Hollywood glitterati have taken over her dance card.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 21 January 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

can't find my taylor swift CD, but now I need to hear. I finally listened to leanne kingwell, and not bad at all, kind of growing on me, quite new-wave. tom verlaine used to live in nashville, so maybe his licks got processed somehow for country...
saw johnny bush and buddy emmons last nite at the ernest tubb record shop's midnight jamboree, out at opryland. johnny in rough voice due to the weather, i guess, but still great. and emmons does some shit on steel that blows your mind. great musician, just fantastic.

xp

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 21 January 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

Wound up enjoying (or at least being able to tolerate) more of the Tritt best-of than I'd expected, once I gave it time. "It's A Great Day To Be Alive" is almost as clever and upbeat as "Country Club"; "I'm Gonna Be Somebody" is a not-horribly hacked if fairly blatant "Shooting Star" by Bad Company rewrite; "Take It Easy" is still a great song even if the Eagles sang it way better; "Sometimes She Forgets" is almost as likeable a ballad as "Anymore." And I was just being a grump about "T-R-O-U-B-L-E" before, I can finally admit (oddly, he actually works a very Billy Ray Cyrus-like Elvis schtick in that one; the two guys are more alike than either would admit).

xhuck (xheddy), Sunday, 21 January 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

So I assume Frank or Jon Caramanica or somebody must have pointed this out sometime when I wasn't really paying close attention, but it's totally ingenious how the first and last songs on Taylor Swift's albums are actually about themselves, to wit:

"When you think 'Tim McGraw,' I hope you think my favorite song" (from "Tim McGraw")

"I grabbed a pen and an old napkin and I wrote down...'Our Song'"
(from "Our Song").

Is that a historical first?

"A Place in the World" is the most shemo-teenpop-sounding Swift song I've noticed so far, and also my least favorite (though it's fine, really, just not one of her best). "Should've Said No"/"Mary's Song (Oh My My My)"/"Our Song" at the end of the album totally kill.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:27 (eighteen years ago)

"People say I sold out," John Mellencamp said, explaining his decision to license a song for a Chevrolet commercial. "No, I got sold out. Sometime during the '90s record companies made the decision that us guys who had been around for a long time and had sold millions of records and were household names just weren’t as interesting as girls in stretch dresses."

Well, has this guy written an interesting song since '87? Genuine question, since I haven't followed him a whole lot since then. His blues alb from several years back was a dud. Fact that Sheryl Crow scored well throughout the '90s would seem to argue that there'd have been a reasonably strong market for Mellencamp if he'd been producing more engaging material.

"Our Country": Guess those of you with a TV have been hearing this for several months. Signifiers ("science," "religion," "Dixie," "poor and common man," "bigotry," "freedom") without any elaboration on what made these words signify in the first place, or why people who wield them sometimes square off. No ribbons of poetry here. Nice start w/ good sharp guitars, voice rumbling above them. His voice has gained a few pounds, to its detriment. Melody isn't bad, but it's not great either, and the arrangement (organ, touches of gospel in the background singing) is utterly predictable, doesn't help the track to breathe. Damn, I obviously wasn't going in anticipating greatness, but didn't expect it to be so dumb and dull.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

"Our Country" is pure tedium. Mellencamp should be content--and probably is--with accusations of "selling out," as that's a useful red herring.

I disagree about Trouble No More, which is decent enough for a rockabilly-blues cover album. I like the updating of the Woody Guthrie/Carter Family tune at the end. And I'll nitpick on the post '87 decline: Big Daddy (1989) has some good songs, even if it isn't as focused and lively as Lonesome Jubilee.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Trouble No More was just too subdued for me, though maybe a problem was my expectations going back to Scarecrow and Jubilee, not to mention rockabilly and blues. I traded it for food the day after I listened to it, so didn't give it enough of a chance, I guess.

the Hollywood glitterati have taken over her dance card

Don't think I agree. On Wildflower, her latest album, Sheryl's mostly going for meadows and brooks and Hallmark Cards pastorale, albeit vaguely about relationships and feelings rather than about actual flowers. Occasionally achieves the misty beauty she's trying for, but not often. I miss the great codependent holes she used to dig herself into and then try to blast out of, "The Difficult Kind" and "My Favorite Mistake." I'm right now listening to her new track, "Try Not To Remember," for the first time, and it's one of the better things I've heard from her recently, also the most teenpop (sounds a bit like "Behind These Hazel Eyes" in the chorus, just like Chuck's least favorite song on the Taylor Swift), though it's arrangement is more womby-tweepop like Jewel or McLachlan, and it slowly bleeds to death at the end.

From Wikipedia: "At the 2006 CMA Awards, Sheryl performed the country hit Building Bridges with Brooks & Dunn and Vince Gill." "On the red carpet at the 2006 CMA Awards, Sheryl reported that she was working on a country music album, according to Entertainment Weekly."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

I'd love to be wrong about Crow--and I remember liking some of Wildflower (obviously pre-post-Armstrong). A full blown country album would be welcome. I nominate Deana Carter to produce.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

(Not sure why Hollywood glitterati wouldn't be a good sound for Sheryl - in fact has been a good sound for her. The Globe Sessions feels very Hollywood to me, "Life In The Fastlane"–style.)

Do wish the Taylor Swift rec had more loud guitars, especially "Should've Said No," which is just as shemo as "A Place In This World," but shemo of a different kind (screamo-shemo). Could imagine Evanescence doing it, though not as well. Kelly Clarkson would scorch tundras with it, though I don't know if she could put as much lilt and sadness in her hate as Taylor did.

I attribute the thematic similarities between "Tim McGraw" and "Our Song" to running out of ideas.

Best song that actually is about itself is the Buffalo Springfield's "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing," written by Neil Young but sung by Richie Furay. "Who should be sleepin', but is writing this song/Wishin' and a-hopin' he weren't so damned wrong." Neil was teeno-emo for his day, and Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere felt very high-school to me when I heard it (in high school). This much madness is too much sorrow. I should probably bring Neil up on the teenpop thread, to distress Lex.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

Sheryl Crow's "Try Not To Remember".

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

has this guy written an interesting song since '87?

I liked "Peaceful World"'s Nelly-song rewrite a lot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgwX9eVqVaU

Beyond that, well, uh, I think "Jackie Brown" was '88 or so. None of the '90s albums were anywhere near as good as their apologists claim, though; especially laughable is whenever people say they sound like "garage rock", which they never do (and which JCM through Scarecrow pretty much always did; a bunch of those pre-Scarecrow albums are rather flawless, but I've written about them on other threads.) As for his blues record, uh, it wasn't as sprightly as White Stripes, I guess. But it was as sprightly as Black Keys, I'm pretty sure. Seemed to me his best album since Lonesome Jubilee. I kept it, but it's in storage now. As for the new one, people (including the Cougstar himself in this morning's Times) say it sounds garage, so my hopes are not high, but who knows, I could still imagine being surprised by the guy. His live shows still pack a wallop (or at least the one I saw a couple years ago did). As for "Our Country," I own a TV but never watch it unless I'm watching Sopranos or Big Love or Northern Exposure episodes on Netflix, and I don't give a shit about football, so I haven't heard it. And everything everybody has said about it makes me want to hear it less. But someday I will.

Best song that actually is about itself is the Buffalo Springfield's "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing,"

Better than "You're So Vain," even?? (That's impossible, right?)

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

Though actually his best post-'87 track (one of his best tracks ever for dancing too) is a cover of this song (released as a "hidden" track on Big Daddy, I think, and on a 45, which I own and which is pictured here although this isn't John singing it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovOjaPgqr7Q

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

"Who should be sleepin', but is writing this song/Wishin' and a-hopin' he weren't so damned wrong."

followed a couple years later, of course, by "i'm singing this borrowed tune/i took from the rolling stones/alone in this empty room/too wasted to write my own."

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)

I'm rather surprised at how much I'm liking the new or newish Cary Hudson album Bittersweet Blues. He's the ex-Blue Mountain front guy (if anybody even remembers them: they made one good album Dog Days in the '90s then diminished their returns, then broke up), strong open-tuning Les Paul guitarist, unassuming but sometimes moving singer, quasi-hippy-back-to-woodsist. I haven't cared for any of the solo stuff I've heard--too heavy on the blooze for my tastes. But Bittersweet Blues is low key, less bluesy than folksy, spare to lend room to what music is there, with some realist Southern recollections--"Snow in Mississippi" and "Epitaph" (about Elvis, not so realist actually)--a well-meaning dud about Katrina (Cary says he lost all his shit in the flood, but no bigee, it's "just stuff"), a bullseyed Elizabeth Cotton cover, a "Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" cop in the form skinny dipping to the "Shoo Fly Blues" and then a nice "Lyin' Eyes" nick in the form of "2>1" in which a southern girl moves to Hollywood and falls for the lead singer in a hipster band called "White Noise." Kinda sweet.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 06:19 (eighteen years ago)

As for the new one, people (including the Cougstar himself in this morning's Times) say it sounds garage, so my hopes are not high, but who knows, I could still imagine being surprised by the guy.

listening to it for the first time now. if this is garage, then i'm ned raggett. it sounds 100 percent like every other mediocre album he's made in the past 15 or so years. i'm hearing a couple of songs i might actually like, in fact, but i'm not about to file this next to, say, the hombres.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

I previewed it on iTunes. Snoozarama of 20 second sound bytes. Seemed even more crowded with indentured soul sister vox than usual.

Does he really sing "I'm from a midwest town"?????

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Thing is, usually when I hear someone country and say "this sounds like Mellencamp," I like it. (Or maybe I'm saying "This sounds like Johnny Cougar." But actually I barely know his pre-Uh Huh stuff (in fact don't know his non-hits much at all).) Eric Church's "Two Pink Lines" feels wonderfully Mellencampian to me.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 25 January 2007 06:58 (eighteen years ago)

Possibly the most Cougaresque song on Taylor Swift's album (also my favorite at the moment, and the hardest rocking track I've taken note of so far, and a great revenge song, and maybe a good dance song too) is "Picture to Burn," where she lights things (namely a photo of her ex I guess) on fire. So it's her "Kerosene," obviously. And its arson sounded especially swell this morning in the random CD changer, seque-ing straight into Lily Allen telling some club dude "If you play with fire you're gonna get burned" in her probably most blatant disco homage (even though its beat always reminds me of "Abracadabra" by Steve Miller) "Friday Night." (And the melody in her "Littlest Things" sounds exactly like Michael Jackson's "Human Nature," by the way; not sure whether anybody on either side of the pond has noticed that before.) Also, oh yeah, most risque moment on Taylor's album I've noticed so far is the one in "Our Song" where she says "He's got one hand on the steering wheel and one hand on my....[notable pause]...heart." Charlie Feathers ("One Hand Loose") would be proud. (And oh yeah, she doesn't keep him out past curfew per se' in that song, it turns out; he's just talking slow to her on the phone 'cause it's late and his mama don't know. Pretty sexy.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 25 January 2007 12:30 (eighteen years ago)

...though sometimes that line doesn't hit me as particularly sexy or risque (or especially paused) at all--just, um, regular. (even more regular but sometimes seemingly more so is the line in that other song where she says she's "never been on the outside." could mean a lot, if outside of society is where she wants to be. but i'm hardly convinced it is. apparently it's just {"just"} a breakup song.)

most country tune on lily allen's CD is seemingly "alfie," a sweet slowish one with alpine polka oompah beat. right now it reminds me of abba (who had verging-on-country moments themselves, of course.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Friday, 26 January 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

country poll in this wk's nashville scene; here're the album/single/reissue results and a bit pulled from himes' essay:

Instead the poll belongs to insiders-turned-outsiders—the Dixie Chicks, Vince Gill, Rosanne Cash, Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash—five acts who once ruled the charts but who haven’t had a Top 20 country single between them since 2002. The voters preferred those artists who demonstrated an ability to connect with a broad country audience but who are also determined to challenge that audience rather than pander to it.

BEST ALBUMS:
1. The Dixie Chicks: Taking the Long Way (Open Wide/Columbia)
2. Vince Gill: These Days (MCA Nashville)
3. Rosanne Cash: Black Cadillac (Capitol)
4. Alan Jackson: Like Red on a Rose (Arista)
5. Johnny Cash: American V: A Hundred Highways (American/Lost Highway)
6. Solomon Burke: Nashville (Shout Factory)
7. Willie Nelson: You Don’t Know Me: The Songs of Cindy Walker (Lost Highway)
8. Neko Case: Fox Confessor Brings the Flood (Anti-)
9. Bob Dylan: Modern Times (Columbia)
10. Julie Roberts: Men & Mascara (Mercury)
11. The Wreckers: Stand Still—Look Pretty (Maverick)
12. Kris Kristofferson: This Old Road (New West)
13. Josh Turner: Your Man (MCA Nashville)
14. Dierks Bentley: Long Trip Alone (Capitol)
15. Alan Jackson: Precious Memories (Arista)
16. Keith Urban: Love, Pain & the Whole Crazy Thing (Capitol)
17. (tie) Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris: All the Roadrunning (Warner Bros./ Nonesuch)/Willie Nelson: Songbird (Lost Highway)
19. Ray Wylie Hubbard: Snake Farm (Sustain/Universal)
20. Jessi Colter: Out of the Ashes (Shout Factory)

BEST SINGLES:
1. The Dixie Chicks: “Not Ready To Make Nice” (Open Wide/Columbia)
2. Alan Jackson: “Like Red on a Rose” (Arista)
3. The Wreckers: “Leave the Pieces” (Maverick)
4. Johnny Cash: “God’s Gonna Cut You Down” (American/Lost Highway)
5. Carrie Underwood: “Before He Cheats” (Arista)
6. Rosanne Cash: “House on the Lake” (Capitol)
7. Julie Roberts: “Men & Mascara” (Mercury)
8. Josh Turner: “Would You Go With Me” (MCA Nashville)
9. Gary Allan: “Life Ain’t Always Beautiful” (MCA)
10. Brad Paisley and Dolly Parton: “When I Get Where I’m Going” (Arista)
11. George Strait: “Give It Away” (MCA)
12. Dierks Bentley: “Every Mile a Memory” (Capitol)
13. Radney Foster: “Half of My Mistakes” (Dualtone)
14. Ray Wylie Hubbard: “Snake Farm” (Sustain/Universal)
15. Jack Ingram: “Love You” (Big Machine)
16. Rodney Atkins: “If You’re Going Through Hell” (Curb)
17. Brooks & Dunn: “Believe” (Arista)
18. Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris: “This Is Us” (Warner Bros./Nonesuch)
19. Old Crow Medicine Show: “Down Home Girl” (Nettwerk)
20. Tim McGraw: “When Stars Go Blue” (Curb)

BEST REISSUES:
1. Waylon Jennings: Nashville Rebel (RCA/Legacy)
2. Johnny Cash: Live at San Quentin (Columbia/Legacy)
3. Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys: Legends of Country Music (Columbia/Legacy)
4. Willie Nelson: The Complete Atlantic Sessions (Rhino/Atlantic)
5. Dwight Yoakam: Guitars, Cadillacs (Rhino/Reprise)
6. (tie) Johnny Cash: Personal File (Columbia/Legacy)/Gram Parsons: The Complete Reprise Sessions (Reprise/Rhino)
8. Tony Joe White: Swamp Music: The Complete Monument Recordings (Rhino Handmade)
9. The Byrds: There Is a Season (Columbia/Legacy)
10. James Talley: Got No Bread, No Milk, No Money, But We Sure Got a Lot of Love (Cimarron)


edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Am I missing some reason why Toby's last LP seems to have missed lots of last year's best-of lists? Beyond, uh, the people who get to vote not liking it?

Tim (Tim), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

Didn't get the promo, and didn't get around to buying it, because did get enough other fine promos to sate, and so it seemed just a little bit superflous, judging by the singles, ditto those from Honky Tonk U. Not that I didn't enjoy him, but his reasonably sensitive, hung-up ( on u, babe)hat-in-hand, midnight plowboy all cleaned up (not the Angry Ahole, Saddamizing li'l blondes! Not tonight, Ma'am) really seems to have peaked,urgency- and perhaps cogency-wise, with Pull My Chain (If xxhuxx and Frank can boldly go where they haven't heard so much, so can I, by cracky.)But if I'd heard the whole thing, maybe he'd have gotten me again, esp considering Lari White's production, which I think we discussed last year, and I also mentioned it in my review of her "Stinky Socks," for our Overlords, http://www. paperthinwalls.com, where you can still stream the track while reading. Enjoyed the comments on the Scene roundup much, and glad that my universal lobbying for Sunny Sweeney paid off, but jeez The Wreckers and OMG that Julie Roberts thing so high up, and Jessi in last place?? Oh well. My ballot, with somewhut improved and def expanded but not unreasonably so comments, just posted on http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/ xhuxx sent me The Last Call Girls (music, not flesh, dang it), and I'll get to that, but more homework right now thx agn xhx

don (dow), Saturday, 27 January 2007 06:17 (eighteen years ago)

...that would be "superfluous," as long as I'm claiming to clean up country comments, and of course http://www.paperthinwalls.com, and before i write "I must not typo" on the blackboard another 500 times, Mellen did make some good albums in the (late) 90s, especially the hootenstential covers album I covered in "Little Punk Houses For You And Me," for the Voice. I will not forget the title of albums I have approved, I will not forget the title of al

Rudy Wontfail (dow), Saturday, 27 January 2007 06:25 (eighteen years ago)

Toby's album last year was the best one I've heard by him (and a better "country-soul" record than either Alan Jackson or Solomon Burke made last year, Will Hermes might be interested to know), and it's sad that people like Joshua Love (in that Nashscene poll section) still go out of their way to zero in on its one bad song (i.e., the seemingly anti-choice one, not that anti-choice songs are bad by defintion, see also the Sex Pistols and Graham Parker etc.) Sorry, but being a prick sometimes doesn't negate one's music per se.

Lots of dumber stuff in that poll (Himes's ridiculous "The voters preferred those artists who demonstrated an ability to connect with a broad country audience but who are also determined to challenge the audience rather than pander to it," as if Neko Case or Rossane Cash or her still dead dad or Kris Kristoferson Who Still Can't Fucking Sing etc etc do either these days; also, can somebody please explain to me what "mainstream production" is, anyway? Production that allows music to have hooks in it and lets singers actually be heard? Sorry, I don't get that at all. I heard tons of "mainsteam" Nashville albums last year, and most of them sounded very different than each other, and by the way the lyrics on them were certainly no more cliched than what I heard on Rosanne Cash's boring-assed record (which, as I said last year, given its theme, critics would have creamed their jeans about even if it had been shipped to them completely blank; they didn't even have to take the frigging shrink wrap off to rave about it -- just read the press release, since all most of the reviews did was rephrase the press release anyway). But I don't want to get my dander up (oops), so I'll shut up otherwise at least until somebody else here starts zeroing in pollwise on whatever it is they want to zero in on, jeez. Otherwise, biggest surprise of the poll was how high Julie Roberts's second album, which I honestly assumed everybody thought was a real letdown after her debut, finished; what did it have, maybe two good songs? (So, also dumbfounding: Himes's claim that Julie "has far better taste in songs" than Carrie Underwood. Not this year she didn't.) Also, who are the Zozo Sisters, who tied with the Duhks for #10 among "best groups and duos"? Never heard of them before, but they have a funny name, so I'm curious (and will probably hate them when I actually hear them, but what the heck.) I did like what Barry Mazor said in the comments about the return of Conway Twitty-style "easy, assured sexuality of grown men" to country music via songs by Josh Turner (who I still have yet to hear anything at all memorable by, but what the heck), Dierks, Blake Shelton, non-badonkadonk Trace Adkins, etc. Makes me think that I should actually investigate Twitty someday...


most country tune on lily allen's CD is seemingly "alfie,"

Unless the most country tune is "Knock 'Em Out," with its blatant Professor Longhair second-line Mardi Gras piano rolls at the start. (Has anybody pointed that out? It's really cool. And for that matter has anybody pointed out that the Lady Sovereign album has a track that sounds like classic Les Rita Mitsouko? I haven't been paying attention to the discussion, which always seems to devolve into dumb horseshit about how "real" such artists are. What about their music?)

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 27 January 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, how is making a concept CD about your dad being Johnny Cash who just died not pandering? That goes right over my head.

(And oh yeah, fwiw, the Alan Jackson gospel album didn't finish top 10, as Himes says in his essay; it finished 15th. Not that I want to nitpick about details -- I know as much or more than anybody on the planet how hard putting polls like this together are, and I do respect Geoffrey for still pulling it off every year, even if the Village Voice and all those other useless New Times rags are his paper's "sister sites." And there's plenty of smart stuff in that poll section, too, much of it from Himes himself. So nothing against him! But wow does he come up with whopper cliches sometimes.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 27 January 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

(I got the idea that what critics liked about the Vince Gill and Dixie Chicks albums was more what they stood for and how they were presented than the actual music on them too, but what the hell do I know, it's presumptuous of me to second-guess critics' motives; I get pissed off when other critics do it, and they should get pissed off when I do it to. Plus, maybe I'm wrong -- maybe I'm wrong with Rosanne, too. More likely other people just loved it and I didn't; that's the simplest explanation, and probably the most accurate one. So I apologize if it seems I'm questioning anybody's sincerity. I just think a couple things I read in that poll set me off, is all.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 27 January 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

I was surprised that Julie Roberts finished so high, too, in the poll. Won't comment on GH's essay/comments, since all I did was pull out my beloved "Chicken in Black" to illustrate, er, John R. Cash's "diversity." And Alan Jackson's "Like Red" placed higher than I initially thought. Overall, no surprises, some good comments from Mazor and Don and Anthony. Figured Kristofferson would place high, and Rosanne, oh well. As for Neko Case, to my ears that's a fairly universal record--actually, not just to my ears, my sister, whose tastes run to Sheryl Crow and classic rock and such, loves it, as do many of my friends with an active distaste for all things Americana/indie. Of course, many of them are males who have a decided taste for Ms. Case's admittedly (to my eyes, at least) fetching looks.

As for the Chix and Gill--after kinda casually listening to the Chix over months, I like one song, "Bitter End." Gill is just this year's poster boy for retro, in my book. Basically, he's Glen Campbell with a Christian wife, only he's not as good as Glen Campbell. I think you'd have to be insane to sit thru 4 discs of his new one, just like you'd have to be crazy to want to listen to Kristofferson's new one more than once (I listened to it three times out of professional responsibility.)

Chuck, the Zozo Sisters are Ann Savoy and Linda Rondstat, who did a record for Vanguard this year, "Adieu False Heart," a collection of mostly slooow Louisiana/French stuff, with a cover of the Left Banke's "Walk Away Renee" that out-genteels the original. Pretty boring, I hate to report, since the great Sam Broussard, a friend of mine who lives down in Lafayette, plays guitar on it--Sam's the real thing, and, back in the day, played on many many sessions including those Michael Martin Murphy hits like "Wildfire" some of us might remember.

Finally, just Saturday morning catch-up: read and reviewed Bobby Braddock's autobiography, "Down in Orburndale," about growing up in Florida in the '50s pre his going to Nashville, joining Marty Robbins' band, and beginning his songwriting career. As a tale of New South, just superb, very smartly done. (And, he's apparently no longer producing Blake Shelton's records, from what I hear, a shame. Braddock had the distinction in 2001 of having two country #1 hits at the same time--Toby Keith's "Wanna Talk About Me," which BB wrote, and "Austin," Shelton's single, that he produced.

And, damn, got a copy of this amazing Buddy Emmons jazz/steel/country instrumental record from around '71, "Emmons Guitar Company," just great!

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 27 January 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

also, can somebody please explain to me what "mainstream production" is, anyway?

I can't, but overly miked, limited and mixed drums + ultra-compressed vocals might be characteristics (though naturally there are plenty of exceptions).

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 27 January 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I don't work in a studio, Roy. What does it sound like?

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 27 January 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

(That question wasn't for you, obviously, since you admitted you can't explain what it is. But maybe it's for somebody.) (And I have no idea why I am so cranky on a Saturday morning, of all times.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 27 January 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

xpost. Loud, sharp, precise, up-front drumming and flattened out vocals that sit-on-top of the mix, rather than blend in dynamically. That can, by the way, sound great! I'm just trying to think of what some of the general mainstream production values might be (I have no idea what Himes would say). I mean, you're right, chuck, it is a pretty diverse sonic scene, so a blanket statement about mainstream production probably doesn't get you very far. Then again maybe I'm just talking out my butt; I don't work in a real studio either.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 27 January 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I guess those sorts of generalities about the sound kind of make sense. (It's just really hard for me to understand how singers and rhythm sections that aren't subdued by the mix, assuming they actually are there at all, can be construed as bad things.)

I guess the other thing that sort of bugs me about Himes's essay is that of course your betwixt-mainstream-and-alt types like the Chicks and the Cashes and Gill (and I guess Neko Case, who I just heard yesterday supposedly shifted 375,000 units, as they say at my current workplace, of her most recent album, which totally astounds me -- in fact, I'm skeptical that somebody may have misread the figure, so don't quote me on it or anything; also heard this week that she's gonna tour with Merle Haggard by the way) and those sorts of people finished high because, duh, both the critics who like Nashville and the alt-purists voted for them. It's just simple math; I doubt it implies as much about tastes as Himes wants to suggest.

In other news, God I love "Picture To Burn" by Taylor Swift so much. What a catchy, rocking song. It sounds a lot like some other bubble-country gal hit from the past couple years, but I can't place it: Jessica Andrews? Cyndi Thompson? Meredith Edwards? Or maybe Rebbeca Lynn Howard, "Pink Flamingo Kind of Love" or something? One of those people, I think. (Which reminds me, I keep meaning to research this: Did Alecia Elliott ever make a whole album, or just her great "I'm Diggin' It" single? I should just look it up, but I'm lazy today.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 27 January 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

(and a couple other cool things about "picture to burn" are taylor's "burn baby burn" disco inferno section and that out-of-nowhere mandolin-or-whatever break toward the end, which recalls the fiddles coming out of nowhere in britney's wacky hoedown-crunk ying yang twins collaboration "i've got that boom boom" a few years back.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 27 January 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

Re. "Ain't No Right Way": Keith doesn't grapple with the emotional/moral burdens of abortion at all (unlike Parker). Actually, he would have us believe that adoption is wrong.

But there are a couple good songs on the album; I just wish he'd get over flaunting/exploiting his ignorance.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 27 January 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i just read the lyrics to that song, fuck that guy

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 27 January 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

For whatever it's worth, I don't disgree about that one song, as my posts below from last year's rolling thread make clear. (So there's an easy solution: Ignore the song; listen to the rest of the album.)

Listening to the new Toby Keith (barely a week after I finally got his previous one), and holy shit it is sounding great. He split with DreamWorks, got Lari White (who put out her completely slept-on more-soul-than-country-and-it -said-so *Green Eyed Soul* on an indie label last year) (how many female producers are there in Nasvhille or anywhere else for that matter, especially producing macho men like Toby??), and she's filled it up with Dixieland horns and put *Dusty in Memphis*-style orchestrations here and there and she's emphasizing the laid-back *ease* Toby's always been capable of in his singing, and what you get is his most soul-music album ever, as far as far as I can tell. That laid-backedness might mean that some of the songs will detonate less on immediate impact the way his hits always have in the past, but they *sound* so good that they'll have no problem seeping in before long -- Toby's just a way more assured singer than Lari (or probably any other would-be Dusty this decade I could name), so this won't wind up just perty background music. "Note to Self" on now; sounds great. "Get Drunk and Be Somebody" is *less* laid-back, but almost in an old minstrel jazz kind of way; I can't place who it's reminding me of but I will -- one thing I *will* say though is that the way he says "BE somebody" makes me think he''s listened to Ol' Dirty Bastard at least once or twice. Damn, I'm going to be playing this a lot this summer. Could wind up being his best album, period, but I don't want to go out on limb. Right now, I'd say his best since *Unleashed* at least. (Though okay, I just noticed "Ain't No Right Way," partially written by Dean Dillon, which says ethics are black and white and seems to be anti-choice and anti-"people saying our kids aren't allowed to pray in school", what horseshit. So maybe I won''t wind up liking that one. Or maybe I will. With Toby you never know.) (And okay, "Brand New Bow" now, this is country jazz like Merle... what is that, a kazoo? Hoosier Hotshot revival in full force!) (Last song, about sex with an overweight girl, might also be iffy, but again, iffy in a country-jazzy way. Not sure if it's good-hearted yet.) (Last three songs are more of his "bus songs," I just noticed.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...) (webmail), April 4th, 2006 1:15 PM. (link)

Or uh (listening to Toby again), maybe the reason Kelefa didn't talk about the music being such a departure is because the music is NOT as much of a departure as I suggest above? I dunno. Now all the parts that *aren't* more soul or jazz than Toby's been before are jumping out at me (and, to be honest, it's not like even the jazziness, where it exists, is entirely new; he did that on *Shock n Y'all* some too, as I recall.) Still loving a lot of it, though "Ain't No Right Way" is offending me as much for the soggy-dish-rag-ness of its sound as the soggy-dish-rag-ness of its politics now. "Runnin' Block," the song about the chubby girl, is actually about playing the wing man for a buddy, still not sure what I think of it overall beyond its moral assholitude, but I actually really like the sound of its chorus, which reminds of something from the '70s and which always confuses me into thinking it's about football (which maybe it is, sort of). Something in its jazzy storytelling also somehow brings to mind Tom T Hall, and I think there are other moments on here when I think of Hall too. (He could be as jazzy as Merle, actually--and in a Dixieland minstrel way. Also as good natured as any songwriter ever; no wonder Jimmy Carter was his pal. Though his sense of ethics clearly put Toby's to shame.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...) (webmail), April 6th, 2006 3:37 PM. (link)

Toby Keith's *White Trash With Money,* which nobody else has much talked about, really holds up. Just played it this morning for the first time in over and month or two, and I'm now rating it as the year's best Nashville country album, hands down. Is "A Little Too Late" the new single (with the reportedly antifeminist dungeon six-feet-under video, which I still haven't seen)? If so, people should try to hear it apart from the video, because to my ears it's got some of Toby's most explicit soul phrasing ever. Also, I don't think I'd noticed before how good "Can't Buy You Money" is. Only real sore spot: the obligatory numbskull political statement "Ain't No Right Way," which sounds more lame ever time I hear it, and also naggingly sincere, hence way less fun than Tony's usual numbskull politics.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...) (webmail), June 28th, 2006 5:46 PM

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 27 January 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

the comment that i got published there, basically is saying what you are saying chuck, i think that something that hasnt ever really been talked about w. johnny, is how well he sold it, how much of his musical choices, werent about anything except mythologizing self (i have a recording that he did for radio in the mid 50s, and it had the sun rockabilly shit, an amazing performance of cry, cry, cry, some great gospel but also had him shilling his fan club and doing ads for something called the reserve for youth...and when he figured out, he could sell to the folk/outlaw crowd, he did that.

i dont see anything wrong with working the star mechancism, and what elvis, jerry lee, etc did is viewed as a good or value neutral thing, when johnny cash did it, hes what selling out, hes smarter then to beleive that shit...

--and the last american recordings album and black cadilliac were pandering to the extreme...but im okay being pandered to, im okay being sold to, as long as it is done well.

and i think roseanne had a difficult job, someone was expecting an album as eulogy, it was de rigeour, and her daddy did the classic one for her mommy, she used her gifts and gave as much as she could, and well why shouldnt we reward that?

(biggest suprise: josh turner)

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 28 January 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

picture to burn really pisses me off, because it does that whole gay as threatening to masculinity libel thing, i mean its a cute song, but that one line really ruins ti for

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 28 January 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

she used her gifts and gave as much as she could, and well why shouldnt we reward that?

Because it was a lousy record, maybe? Because good intentions aren't enough? And because some of us don't really care at all about her personal life, and we're tired of people assuming we should? (Also, we wish she still had her new wave haircut and did powerpop songs.)

The line in "Picture To Burn" Anthony's referring to, which I hadn't noticed because I rarely read lyric sheets unless somebody is holding a pistol to my head (since it's cheating, see) (or I'm just lazy, same difference) and I was busu getting off on the great fast rhythmic rush of words in that first verse instead, is: "State the obvious, I didn't get my perfect fantasy/I realize you love yourself more than you could ever love me/So go and tell your friends that I'm obsessive and crazy/That's fine, I'll tell mine you're gay." Which is...interesting. And may well be libel (well, if he wasn't gay, that is) (sung it'd be slander, but we're talking about a lyric sheet here remember.) Yet I'm not entirely convinced it challenges his masculinity. Off the bat, it reminds me of Tony Basil's "Mickey" or Josie Cotton's "Johnny Are You Queer." I'll have to ponder it some more before I decide if I'm offended.

xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 28 January 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

i dont think it was a lousy record, i thot it was a nessc. and overly simplified, leaden in places, didnt swing, but not lousy.

i pay too much attention to the lyrics, but since its about humilating an ex lover, how could one assume calling him gay was anything but impuging his masculinity

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 28 January 2007 12:51 (eighteen years ago)

watching this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKpgu5FONeo
i am made aware of the central point you are making (cf pansy divisions kevin) if thats teh case, things become more complicated

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 28 January 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

Shocker: country artist makes album which dives deeply into and deeply deals with her/his personal shit. In this instance that personal shit is one of a handful of the most significant artists in country history. If that's pandering, welcome to music. Pining for new wave haircuts and power pop songs = nostalgia. Rosanne had other stuff on her mind.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 28 January 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

j.m. carroll's "anywhere u.s.a," ... a great piece of pop, better than anything cheap trick could come up with, a really good production and a perfected kind of quasi-rap fast-talkin' jamming those syllables in to show that country singers got their own way of taking care of business quick song, down to the way jmc repeats "talkin' about," just so very accomplished.

it sounds to me like a dead ringer for bruce springsteen circa "nebraska" ("open all night," say) and "born in the usa," or maybe huey lewis circa the same time.

i agree with the complaints about jmc's hair upthread -- he should get a haircut or join gov't mule -- but what fascinates me most about his looks is how that very adult baritone comes out of that baby face that looks like it couldn't grow a beard if it tried.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 28 January 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

Rosanne Cash's boring-assed record (which, as I said last year, given its theme, critics would have creamed their jeans about even if it had been shipped to them completely blank; they didn't even have to take the frigging shrink wrap off to rave about it -- just read the press release, since all most of the reviews did was rephrase the press release anyway).

i'd say that that idea explains each of the top nine albums of the poll, dixie chicks through dylan. call it press-release country. this works in pretty much all genres. press-release rock and press-release hip-hop do quite well in critics' polls, too. some of 'em happen to be really good; i like the dixie chicks and alan jackson albums a lot. but to try to ascribe this to a new trend toward artists "who demonstrated an ability to connect with a broad country audience but who are also determined to challenge that audience rather than pander to it" is rather silly.

i'm also interested to know what exactly about the dixie chicks album (which, again, i liked a lot) is alleged to have "challenged" the country audience. onstage comments about george bush don't count, because last i checked, they weren't to be found anywhere on the album itself.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 28 January 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

Pining for new wave haircuts and power pop songs = nostalgia.

Er, so is pining for Johnny Cash. Even more so. But I'd rather nostalgically pine for something entertaining that added life to Rosanne's music than something "significant" that drained life from it.

xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

We went over this aplenty last year, but "Not Ready to Make Nice" obviously challenges those in their audience (and there were a lot) who sent hate mail, boycotted their shows and smashed their CDs.

Pining for someone you love who died is not nostalgic. Jesus.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

Er, wait, sorry, I think I misread xhuxk (my apologies). If you're saying fans of that album pining for her father, I'd still disagree. And I'd disagree that it sucked life from it. Rosanne has never sung better than on that record.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

xp: I wrote this based on Roy's misreading, but what the heck:

People were pining for Cash long before he died, and long after he'd stopped having hits. If that wasn't nostalgia, it was certainly a really good imitation. (I'm not talking about his daughter, who hasn't made a good album for two decades; I'm talking about critics. Hey, I miss my dad dead, too. I'm not saying that's not allowed.) And it's not like the sanctimoniousness of it all hasn't skyrocketed since Johnny Cash did die, either. With critics, it's usually just a way to avoid current music because, you know, popular country was so much better back when legends walked the earth. And it gets more irritating ever year it goes on with another comeback album that we're supposed to be reverent to no matter how stodgy and leaden it sounds. Usually it doesn't bug me much, to be honest. Usually I just ignore it, no matter how necrophilic it gets. But when people start complaining about how this stuff is better than what comes out of Nashville nowadays because what comes out of Nashville does nothing but pander to what people want to hear, the hypocrisy creeps me out. (If you pander to actual fans who tune into country radio, that's reprehensible. But pandering to folks who are above it all is okay.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

We went over this aplenty last year, but "Not Ready to Make Nice" obviously challenges those in their audience (and there were a lot) who sent hate mail, boycotted their shows and smashed their CDs.

it obviously says "fuck you" to a certain segment of the audience, but that's not quite the same thing. it says fuck you to them in the context of a mainstream pop/rock song (and the country charts are full of mainstream pop/rock songs) that very much adheres to a core country value of staying true to yourself no matter what people say. it engages the country audience in an ongoing conversation. i imagine there's a challenge implied in simply not saying "we're sorry." but being country means never having to say you're sorry, doesn't it? (unless you're toby keith, who seemingly spends half his 2006 album apologizing for missed birthdays/anniversaries/etc., but that's a whole 'nother ball of wax.) (p.s. i was not around when this was being gone over aplenty last year, so if this is an argument that doesn't need to be had again, i'm happy not to have it!)

fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

xp "my dead dad," i mean

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=14816870

xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

xpost That's quite a catch of red herrings. Plenty of critics who voted for Black Cadillac also voted for "current music"; implying otherwise is just BS. I do take your point about the absurdity of Himes pandering claim, but think your claim about Rosanne not making any good records in 20 years is wrong, but fine, my ears are different. When I saw dad Cash perform in 2000 in a school auditorium or whenever it was it wasn't pining for a legend who used to walk the earth. He was in solid voice and kicked ass.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

I need to type faster. No, I didn't mean to say we can't have this conversation. (It is weird to me how distant that "controversy" now seems, but that's probably just me.) But I think it's worth remembering that "a certain segment" of their audience = pretty much their core audience which since the controversy and with the new album has changed, maybe permanently. I don't know if their days of total system dominance are over or not. But they may well be.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 28 January 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

nostalgia was one of Johnny Cash's great subjects.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 28 January 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

Bizarrely, nostalgia is one of Taylor Swift's great subjects, too (and she's what, 17?) And one of country's great subjects in general.

Roy is obviously right about Rosanne Cash voters voting for current music ("current music" being a rather broad category, for one thing, but yeah, I'm probably full of it to suggest none of them also voted for "Before He Cheats" or whatever; point well taken). I'm talking more the entire gist of the Johnny Cash Death Cult -- I mean, compare where his post-humous albums have finished in Pazz & Jop to, I dunno, Tim McGraw's or Faith Hill's or Kenny Chesney's or Joe Dee Messina's. But yeah, I probably did open a can of red herring there I should have avoided. And I wasn't too clear, either.

xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 28 January 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

You have a point xhuxk, especially when it comes to P&J (and ND, but please for the love of god let's not go there :) ) though I would prob blame that on latent rockism (to which I'm not immune) or whatever you want to call it; David Cantwell did a good job dissecting and questioning the Cash Death Cult in ND a few issues back. And yes nostalgia is a great theme, so I'm probably full of it too, and my goddam grilled cheese sandwich just burned typing this.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 28 January 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

What a coincidence! I over-sauteed the anchovies and garlic for the gemelli with broccoli I was making! (True story.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 28 January 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

And not meant to change subjects but currently listening to the new Dale Watson (speaking of nostalgia for honky tonk past) and liking it, maybe as much as Whiskey or God, which I should have voted for, now that I think of it. More details later after I finish digesting the cinders of my lunch, which is obv < xhuxk's lunch.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 28 January 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

^^that sounds good. I need to start chopping veg for my ratatouille.

my guess is these posthumous Cash albums rarely get played. for that matter all his Rick Rubin produced albums are little too "death cult" for my tastes. I didn't even listen to Rosanne's latest cause I knew it would just remind me of my late parents and bum me out.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 28 January 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

the weird the thing about cashs album, is that i think it works w/o the whole story, its not only pining for her father, but pining for that way of life, and that sad, meloncholic nostaliga is expected of country, both current and modern.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Monday, 29 January 2007 01:18 (eighteen years ago)

dammit anthony how many times we gots to tell you, if it aint about boats or revenge or fascist politics then IT AINT COUNTRY

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)

oh sorry, also allowable: spaghetti-os and playing chicken with a train

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

Albums being streamed this week on the AOL Listening Party: Lily Allen, Travis Tritt, John Mellencamp, Clint Black.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

albums being streamed this week on cmt hear music now: jason michael carroll, clint black, kenny & amanda smith band, several others.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

where do i start with randy travis, i took no holdin back out of the libary, from 1989, and really enjoyed it, i like his swing, and his voice...

pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 1 February 2007 01:12 (eighteen years ago)

Randy Travis does a mean swingin' "Just a Closer Walk With Thee" on Worship and Faith from 2003. I forget how much I enjoyed the rest of that album, though, and it's probably not terribly representative.

I've been digging some of the Jason Michael Carroll this evening, about which edd s. hurt wrote upthread "some of this is big & rich, too, he almost raps, it's a typically wordy nashville country album. not bad!"

I totally agree! His cadence on "Waitin' in the Country" rhymes across the barlines like Andre 3000, and apparently he doesn't mind "parkin' lot jumpin' cars thumpin' hard mixin' those rhymes," though he'd rather listen to country. "I Can Sleep When I'm Dead", "Anywhere USA," and "Honky Tonk Friends" are also pretty rockin'. "Lookin' At You" is pure craft and likable for it. The Jewel song sux. As do the ballads, though I seem to remember a nice one where he went into falsetto.

You totally don't expect that voice to go with his photo. I thought he'd be a Hanson brother.

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Thursday, 1 February 2007 01:35 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose most rhymes are across the barlines. But NOT all rhymes come at the beginnings of the lines, which I think is what happens here.

Also, I have moral dilemmas about "Alyssa Lies," because it employs a cutesie country pun to describe a schoolgirl getting beaten to death. I'm trying to think of an analogy with a hypothetical 9/11 movie, but I can't come up with one.

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Thursday, 1 February 2007 01:41 (eighteen years ago)

where do i start with randy travis

Old 8x10 seems to be the one people swear by, that and maybe Storms of Life. I don't own any albums by the poor guy, have always been extremely skeptical (and voiced such on threads like this), but if I saw copies of those for a couple bucks I'd try them.

Is the new Dale Watson CD as dreary and dull as the couple cuts that have come up in my CD changer so far suggest? God, I hope not. Last album and other old songs I've heard have been rocking and funny....

Press release quotes for Gina Villalobos's CD liken her to Kathleen Edwards and Lucinda Williams, so I do not have high hopes. Then there's the John Morthland plug that compares her to "Honky Tonk Woman"-era Stones, which I predict is baloney on the level of when critics liken Shelby Lynne to music of that ilk, but we shall see.

I like Jason Michael Carrol, and I said so up above, but I still hear more Eddie Rabbit than Big N Rich in his rocking and rhyming.

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 1 February 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

is that the whiskey or god one, i reviewed it for left hip, but thats not new, just newish, i remeber thinking it was well done, but had the usual political problems

pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 1 February 2007 04:51 (eighteen years ago)

"to xhuxk, 'rocking and funny' MEANS 'the usual polital problems,' anthony!"
-- Haikalike

just kidding. nah, whiskey or god was last year's, and i loved it (see my nashscene top 10 up above.) this year's is called from the cradle to the grave, and it seems less fun. though there does seem to be at least one good truckers song so far. which no doubt has the usual political problems. not that i'll mind.

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 1 February 2007 07:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm actually liking the Gina Villalobos album, as pure throbbing in the background sound, more than that new Dale Watson, who seems to be going for a sort of Johnny Cash type atmosphere I have no use for though some here will no doubt like it way more than I do. (He gets a little open space into his sound in the title track, but that one doesn't particularly connect with me either.) Both the Villalabos and Watson seem more useful than the allegedly psychobilly White Barons on Gearhead (some okay guitar parts, but I wish that tattooed chesty white-haired girl on the cover was singing rather than just another clumsy thuggy dude who wishes he was Danzig -- at least she looks promising), and I like them all a whole lot less than the great new Sirens album also in my CD changer right now (which is mostly if not all cover versions, mostly glam rock, though sometimes maybe early rock'n'roll with a smidgen of country tinge I suppose too. They have way more Stones in their sound than Villalobos does.) Taking up the fifth spot in my changer right now: disc one of the two-disc maybe-promo-only-I'm-not-sure-yet Stax 50th Anniversary Celbration comp, which has its countryish moments as well, including one song I halfway thought was Van Morrison for a second but I didn't get to the player in time to figure out which one it is.

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 1 February 2007 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

And speaking of Johnny Cash and thug-punk, Gearhead also sent me a CD by a punk band called I Walk The Line who (inasmuch as I made it through their record anyway) sounded at least as dull and dim-witted and sexless and grooveless and humorless as the White Barons, if not more so. There's something to be written sometime about punk-oriented acts, from Social Distortion to Ministry and Nick Cave and beyond, who apparently respect Johnny Cash for, uh, how he dressed or something. Or his biography, I guess. Or maybe they actually do draw on something I never liked very much in his sound, who knows. (The latter obviously applies to Nick Cave; not so sure about those other guys. And oh yeah, Depeche Mode dressed like him too, right? And that Nine Inch Nails song sucked no matter who was singing it.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 1 February 2007 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

I'm actually liking the Gina Villalobos album, as pure throbbing in the background sound, more than that new Dale Watson

Though the problem with Gina, just like with Shelby and Lucinda and Kathleen before her, is that her voice tends to fade into the throb, inasmuch as it exists, way more than Dale's does. She's just not in the forefront enough to really put the songs over. So I predict I may end up thinking his album is better in the long run. (Track #4 on his, the partially talked one about the hillbilly in Hollywood, actually has some humor and energy to it, though it still doesn't seem to be near the level of the best tracks on his previous album.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

Honestly, another cup of coffee or two before she hits the studio next time would probably help. The more I listen, the more I can tell Gina's not gonna cut it for me. What is it with all these women (men, too, no doubt, though she reminds me of other women mainly) who sing like they've barely woken up yet? I'm sure it's supposed to sound "sexy" or "world-worn" or something (especially if you can also infer they have a smoking habit), but it just leaves me cold.

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

(That said, once in a while a guitar hook would peak out and add life, just like on that White Barons CD oddly enough. Gina's "Face On The Sheets" has a real nice one near the end. And that's where her music's throb comes from. But it's a long way from the Stones.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, that stax 2-disc set on concord sorta kicks off the big concord stax reissue program. whether they'll get around to lena zavarone or gus cannon's "walk right in" we'll see. stax even tried their hand at country, when the label existed in the '70s--so you had these second-string country singers from nashville, like connie eaton, on, like, enterprise. certainly, william bell's '62 "you don't miss your water" is one of the early great stax moves, along with "green onions" and "last night," and it's also a great country song--probably, the beginning of "country soul." (as conceived by jeb loy nichols on those "country got soul" comps on casual of a few years ago.) they're good; the best singer in that mode of "country soul" or whatever i have heard is george soulé, who is pretty obscure, but who made a record for zane last year, "take a ride." he's from mississippi, sounds it. phrases like what he has also been, a drummer. a real singer--give him a budget and some good material, perhaps a few country songs from the mill, and he could make a white-soul record right up there with van morrison. xps

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

GV can sound like she's waking up next to my ears any time.

I think the KE and LW comparisons are misplaced. The sound has crossover potential though she's too old and outside the machine for it too happen. As an homage to CE, here's what I wrote on RC06:

Has Gina Villalobos been mentioned yet? I just heard her new record "Miles Away," and a lot of it kicks, not unlike Miranda or Gretchen, but with a scratchy still wide-open voice. "Somebody Save Me" would sound great on country radio.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

a song i would have liked to have liked but unfortunately i do not: ricky skaggs and bruce hornby's "super freak." there's just nothing there.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

Was at a Sara Evans concert tonight. The opening act was Radney Foster, which was a nice surprise. I'd never really heard his music before, but it was good. He did a set of about 6 or 7 songs, none of which I knew except "Raining On Sunday", and that I only knew from the Keith Urban cover of course. Anyways, he was good.

The Sara Evans show itself was very good, but a bit short. She's a great performer though, she was working the crowd very nicely. I was worried she'd be touring her latest, not-as-good album, but it was pretty much just a compendium of all of her hit singles. Which means no "Bible Song" :(. Huge crowd reactions: "Born To Fly" (whatever, not her best), "Real Fine Place to Start" (she brought Radney out to sing this with her), "Cheatin'" (Heh, for obvious reasons), and "Suds in the Bucket" (of course). The girl next to me started crying during "There's No Place That Far". Playing her newest singles in the context of her older ones kind of highlighted how much stronger albums Restless and Born to Fly were. From her first two albums she played only "There's No Place That Far"; the show focused heavily on her last 3 albums.

The show highlighted how great a singles artist Sara Evans has been (in my opinion at least), even if her albums aren't consistently great. Anyways, worth the money despite the brevity.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Friday, 2 February 2007 04:21 (eighteen years ago)

The new Dale Watson is a dark album, and also a Cash homage, but not a reverential one, really, and that's ok with me. He and the band are having too much fun fucking around with the arrangements, though, for it to feel finally somber. Sometimes it seems as much a Porter Wagoner homage as anything. The humor when it's there is black: opening revenge song is clearly a Cash / Robbins send up of some kind, down to the horn blat at the end. Most obvious attempt at humor is the weakest: "Hollywood Hillbilly," though I still like the song ok as a fun novelty toss-off. And the music has lots of pleasures, though not of the rocking variety, though "Runaway Train" zooms at the end. I love the drumming and the double tracked vocal on my favorite song "It's Not Over Now" and the phase-shifted Waylon guitar on "You Always Get What You Always Got" (great title and line) and elsewhere. The arrangements are considered, sometimes stately, but off-kilter--great French horn sounding horns and Morricone-esque pedal steel. Rhythms are heavy on the boomchick, and Watson seems to sing in an even lower register than usual, which gives the Cash effect--Watson apparently wrote the songs in a cabin that once belonged to Johnny; so the effect is intentional--but I'm not gonna hold stupid critics' and stupid bands' ideas about the always-already dead Man In Black against him. The record still sounds swell, though it's not up to Whiskey or God.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 2 February 2007 05:38 (eighteen years ago)

Great defense, Roy. I'm still struggling with the album, but so far I'm still not hearing it. Or maybe I just don't like black humor, who knows. I definitely have problem with low-register singing that drags music down into its dump. So far, my favorite song is still your least favorite, apparently. (More and more, I'm half convinced what stupid bands and Dale Watson alike both like about Cash is some perceived "manliness," when "manly" means being a staid old bore, stuck in place, and stewing sorry-for-self in one's own shit. Which has never been the kind of man I've wanted to be, or to be around.)


xhuxk (xhuck), Friday, 2 February 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Rosanne Cash's "Runaway Train" was probably better (and it wasn't even one of the best tracks on King's Record Shop). Though okay, maybe not -- Dale's song does have a bit of a stodgy old railroad chug to it, I admit. And I am starting to like his staid old lesson to what seems to me like it could be his son "You Always Get What You Always Got," about how if you're staid and stuck in your ways (and you keep making the same stupid mistakes) you're luck ain't gonna change. And "Yellow Mama" has intriguing words -- reminds me less of Graham Parker/Landslide/Status Quo's Asian-woman fetish than the astronaut Minefield (or however you spell it) on Northern Exposure's regret over his babymama he got pregnant then abandoned while stationed in Korea. Also, the Watson album is commendably short -- 27:10, unless I'm misconstruing the counter on my stereo, which is only 2:10 too long to have qualified for Pazz & Jop's long late lamented EP ballot. So that's a good thing, too.

xhuxk (xhuck), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

(More and more, I'm half convinced what stupid bands and Dale Watson alike both like about Cash is some perceived "manliness," when "manly" means being a staid old bore, stuck in place, and stewing sorry-for-self in one's own shit. Which has never been the kind of man I've wanted to be, or to be around.)

That is as willful, and skillful, a misreading of Johnny Cash as I've ever heard.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

unless you're talking only about the rick rubin stuff, in which case you might be right, but i don't know because i never bothered with it

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, somewhat, Matt. But even more so I'm talking about people's perceptions of Cash, which may not coincide with reality -- at least are those perceptions are communicated as a musical influence. I doubt many of those influenced by him would agree with me. And I definitely do not think all of Cash' music fit that description -- believe it or not, I'm a fan of some of it. And again, I'm talking about his sound. Not his life, or words.

xp:

Or starting to not hate "You Always Get What You Always Got," at least. Partly because, as a Dad with sons, I kind of relate to it. And I wasn't typo-ing with those two "staid"'s. Dale's telling the kid to stop burning the candle at both ends because if the kid doesn't he's gonna get burned, and you sure get the idea the kid's living a more exciting life right now than Dale is. So who's the one stuck in place, Dale or his kid? And it's the stick-in-the-mudness of the album's sound that still stands in my way, and pisses me off.

xhuxk (xhuck), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

"at least as those perceptions are communicated as a musical influence" I mean (and I am admittely riffing off the top of my head, and maybe wrong.) I'm honestly not trying to be dogmatic here. I'm just trying to figure out for myself what bugs me so much about Cash worship. (And yeah, maybe what bugs me about Cash, too.) (Maybe it's even simpler -- maybe I'm just not a big fan of low registers!)

xhuxk (xhuck), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Can I add here that the San Quentin live album was probably the only country album in the entire Eddy household while I was growing up?

(My favorite Cash moment, for whatever it's worth, is the part in "Wanted Man" where he goes the wrong way into Juarez with Juanita on his lap. Nothing staid or humorless about that at all, obviously!)

xhuxk (xhuck), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

(So wow, do I subconsciously associate Johnny with my own dad??? Hmmm....)

xhuxk (xhuck), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

The bothersome thing, perhaps, about certain artists' Cash worship is that they seem to be propping up a notion that songs about murder, death, suicide, etc. are what make American music authentic. I'm not talking Watson here, but of punk rockers with JC-flipping-off-the-camera t-shirts--making Cash into a proto-Cobain--who probably don't really respond much to the actual music but to the image.

I used to listen to Cash a lot as a kid but that's because I liked funny songs and thought he was funny--"The One on the Left."

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Friday, 2 February 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

there are "masculine" virtues in cash, that the middle finger t shirt crowd arent getting and which i think are not stodgy at all, which i think are desired by a large percentage of the population, and which i think are lost, like faith, feidilty, honour, justice, protection, and moving like that fucking train...

i think chuck has a point, that cash for american music, seems patriachal, a pater familias, and how people respond to that, seems to be how they respond to daddies in general.

on other things:

i havent bought anything new country wise this year yet, i went in yesterday to buy aliasdair roberts, and picked up bridget bardot instead

ive been listening to devandrah barnhardt from the library, three or four albums, and there is something that annoys me deeply at the same time as i want to keep listening. I think he has a v. pretty voice, but his arrangements seem to impart more eccentricity and depth then he is, there is a diference between visionary and deep vs crazy and cryptic, and hes not even crazy enough to be interesting, or droney, or folky, but maybe something there? is the whole freak folk movement rooted in any country sound at all?

i got tickets to josh ritter in two weeks, 17 days. im thrilled. 11 bucks, tiny venue, shitty sound, but i really like him, and cant imagine him working in a big venue at all.

listening to lyle lovett as well, and no irony there at all is there, for someone who is assumed to be a jaded, semi ironic hipster, he seems to sing what he actually belives. the country/jazz interpolations remind me of kdlang and chris isaak, two artists who i lvoe but dont seem to be well respected.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

Agree with you about Isaak but not about lang, she's very well-respected, just not loved much anymore. But damn if Shadowlands doesn't still stand up after all this time.

Joey Wright is a bluegrass jazz guy from Canada, his new record Jalopy doesn't have much wank on it, and his "Blues for Motown" is pretty fun.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

yr right about ms lang, but her best work is ahead of her

pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe it depends which Lyle Lovett you're listening to. I only know ...and His Large Band all the way through (I think--the one with "Stand By Your Man"?), and I like a lot of it fine, but there's something in his singing that sounds forced and distanced, like he's trying for some kind of subtle jazz swing that he hasn't realized yet. Maybe he's improved. And then the lyrics have lots of big words that aren't really funny. It's like I want him to just CUT LOOSE.

But I kind of get the same thing from Diana Krall, and I don't think of her as "ironic" at all. hmmm...

He sounded better on a Sessions at West 54th in the late 90s with Allison Krauss singing backup.

(xp)

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

I really like the song about the pony on the boat.

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Also covered by the Holmes Bros on their new record--not sure that choice works.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

(So wow, do I subconsciously associate Johnny with my own dad??? Hmmm....)

This is turning out to be one of the greatest threads ever! I definitely associate Cash (and a lot of country/country-folk music) with my father, above all else, Pete Seeger, who I would probably hate otherwise, but I can't bring myself to hate my father, so that tells you something about the depth and unresolvedness of my complex. It's interesting that xhuxk's favorite song is the one where Dale sings with his Haggard-voice, a bit higher, even throwing in falsetto at the end. But I don't hear the sound of this record as staid at all--there's too many twisted and to my ears semi-comic choices made, in the sound, which Cash, obviously, also did.

And Ramon OTM.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

FYI: this here new album, From the Cradle to the Grave, comes out at the end of April on Hyena. The label is pretty generous with promos (but you didn't hear that from me).

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Didn't know where else to put this, but they're from Nashville and it's on Yep Roc so I'll say it here: the new album from Los Straitjackets, Rock en Español, Vol. 1, is completely rocking. It's a concept record, kinda -- they are covering old Spanish-language cover songs from the 1950s and 1960s, so "Poison Ivy" became "La Hiedra Venenosa," etc. These new versions are clean as hell and a lot of fun, according to me; they use guest vocalists like Little Willie G and (producer) Cesar Rojas. Loving "Lagrimas Solitarias" and "Loco te Patina el Coco" ("Lonely Teardrops" and "Wild Thing," respectively.)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

Best thing anybody ever wrote about k.d. lang (whose best album, Angel with a Lariat or whatever it was called, was back in her new wave rockabilly daze), paraphrased (I think he was talking about "Constant Craving"): "If this is torch, then Taylor Dayne is a conflagration and Teena Marie is a holocaust" -- Frank Kogan in Radio On. And I comprehend Lyle Lovett's appeal even less.

Los Staitjackets have, um, Mexican wrestler masks, right? I saw them once or twice in Philly, and didn't get it. Historically they've mainly just done instrumentals, right? And didn't even distort them like they understand Link Wray, wtf? The albums I've tried to like have been even more boring, but I haven't heard the new one that Matt is talking about, and he makes it sound promising. So who knows?

As for Johnny Cash, whatever I can say for my dad at least he did not name me Sue. So here's my question about JC and his sense o' humor: Are there Cash fans out there so humorless they think of "Boy Named Sue" (which I love by the way) as the moral equivalent of "My Dingaling," given its frivolity and commercial success? It seems there would be, somewhere, but I can't recall ever confronting them.

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:01 (eighteen years ago)

i think maybe a lot of the johnny cash fans haven't already put him in the 'humorless leaden macho-men' category, so they wouldn't be upset by this or 'chicken in black' or 'one piece at a time' or 'dirty old egg-suckin' dog' or '25 minutes to go' or 'daddy sang bass' or 'shrimpin' sailin'' or 'whirl and the suck'

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

but yeah maybe some goth country people are like 'damn sellout' but who cares what they think. also during 'boy named sue' he gets into a bloody bar fight and is about to kill his own father, that's a little gothick

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I hope so, because I would definitely respect the guy more if there was somebody, somewhere, who felt he lacked integrity, y'know?

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:22 (eighteen years ago)

why?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

Arists who are never perceived as lacking integrity are suspect by definition? (Or should be?) Doesn't necessarily mean they're bad, of course. But it's definitely a good sign that they might be.

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:59 (eighteen years ago)

Um, okay.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 3 February 2007 03:45 (eighteen years ago)

i think that johnny cash being funny is not as much of a secret as people think it is, but then i think 25 minutes to go is harrowing...that said, allgheny is funnier then any songs previously mentioned

kd lang wasnt torch on angel...but was on smoke (as torch as anything)

you dont like low key "polite" jazzsing do you xhuxk?

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 3 February 2007 04:47 (eighteen years ago)

Johnny Cash absolutely slays at karaoke, much better than any of the other classic country artists.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Saturday, 3 February 2007 05:05 (eighteen years ago)

(listening to Beale Street Caravan, on Pubic Radio:Otis Rush and Elvin Bishop opened, good juicy corrugated sustain; then Chris Smither, who done good on my Scene Ballot, posted at http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com , did a set of his thinking knotty but not knotted thoughts over received but appropriate sort of post-or-from-Delta blues [calm surface of voice, words, music, but twisty little lines of rhythmic implications pull me in]also did "Love You Like A Man," recorded and improved by young Bonnie Raitt as "Love Me Like A Man," on Give It Up, still one of the best albums of the 70s, and finally remastered) I thought a lot of Cash's best stuff was pop art, "like that other Man In Black, the one with the soup cans," as I said in my Voice review of Dixie Chicks' Home, and that was in disagreeing with their Home single that posited Pop uber Art as being Nashville's unforgivable sin, and of course invoking J.C. as the latter. Cited the damn trumpets-as-kazoos and bouncy beats in "Ring of Fire", and later on,in Nash Scene '04 comments, I mentioned The Man Comes Around, which really had an emotional range. (I think I wasn't the only one that who wondered in print if Cash knew "We'll Meet Again" from WWII radio play of Vera Lynn's teary hit, or from Kubrick's use of the same track, I think, Dr. Strangelove. Then I figured that Cash prob dug both.) Speaking of emotional range, I agree with xxhux that The Last Call Girls album lack the e.r. of Nancy McCallion's previous band, The Mollys, and yeah, it's mostly her singing. She sang higher with The Mollys more often all around Catherine Zavala's unnerving version of a young Marianne Faithful as old Marianne Faithful, bursting with cigarette smoke and Vitamin C (while the actual young M.F. was pretty restrained). Nancy's usually singing lower here, which can be sultry, but also monotonous, which is a pisser when she redoes Mollys songs. Especially since this band doesn't play as well, most of the time. The original version of "Don't Want To Outlive That Man" ("too long") is a unique lyric for western swing, but this doesn't western swing. But as long as they get a decent border polka going, they're okay at least (and "Lonesome Is" has great development), and damn she (and Neil McC., her brother, I think) got some good new songs, which she does better than she re-does the old songs. Could see Willie, Toby, Merle doing some of these.(Doug Sahm and Freddy Fender too, in honky tonk heaven) Think she's done this version of "On The Mt. High" before, anyway it's Mollysworthy too. But, for the Mollys in their late prime, see "Clockwork Pinata": http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0118,tracker_writer.inc,17290,.html and, speaking of Nash Scene 04 comments, they also include my take on (and Top Tenning of)Trouble, a album credited to Nancy McCallion & The Mollys, after Catherine left the band:
http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_archive.html Or if that link doesn't work, just go to current home page and click on 03/2004 archive in top right margin, next to current Nash Scene ballot! (Either way, you'll have to scroll slowly so won't miss excellent non-haikuiana by Matt & Steve The K.)

don (dow), Saturday, 3 February 2007 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

speaking of restrained, and faithful, check out the amazing north country maid, old old folk stuff, but just gorgeous and fully restrained, sort of a richer, darker baez

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 3 February 2007 08:02 (eighteen years ago)

you dont like low key "polite" jazzsing do you xhuxk?

I liked that Alan Jackson album last year! But he had warmth.

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 3 February 2007 11:21 (eighteen years ago)

Cash meets Dylan and turns on, even more--to me, he was a pretty classic pillhead, and if he really did run the tractor into Old Hick'ry Lake as portrayed in what could've been a country "Goodfellas," but was a decent enough movie about a pillhead, then all to the good.

I always thought the whole post-1971 rock scene was more about dress-up than necessary, and Johnny monochromed 'em all, out-Marc Bolaned, David Johansened, 'em all, more on a Robert Mitchum, pot-bust level. The Man in Black, you have to admit that's good.

But I really think he's a sort of novelty artist from the gitgo, a conflicted pillhead novelty artist with a decent budget and presumably artistic control. "Chicken in Black" was his deal-breaker for CBS in the '80s--people forget how completely out of favor he was except with his hardcore fans. Or was he? At any rate, that song is about changing identities, expressed in pretty stupid terms, but I like the real thuggishness of its conceit, esp. when he mutters the line about "give me your watches and rings." Obviously, Nashville's coffers denied to him is the bank he robs, but as *someone else*. And the chicken just keeps on pumpin' out "Folsom Prison Blues"--a damnable, adaptable rooster (it would have to be, but "rooster" is too virile for Johnny, he's all washed up), a precursor to today's hat acts.

xps

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 3 February 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

I want to write a haiku
about the new Lucinda.
But I suck at the form.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 3 February 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

on the first listen
trampled by turtles' grasscore
more fun than watson

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 3 February 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

Cash's late 60s TV show was an amazingly refreshing thing, when Nixon was pursuing the South, and the strategy of division: that Cash could honestly claim to be friends/colleagues (and recording partners) with Bob Dylan and Billy Graham, that he could have Dylan and I think Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Joan Baez when she might as well have been Hanoi Jane Fonda to many in the country audience, and that he and June and pickers could perform trad country and tops of the pops country--well, this eventually led to a lot of bourgie crossover stuff, but a lot of good stuff too. Still, yeah, Cash was pretty washed up a few years later, and not just commercially, but critical credibilty-wise, as I also pointed out vs. the Chicks railing against his martyrdom via Trashville suits, my xpost Voice review of Home. (And see http://www.robertchristgau.com re '78's Greatest Hits Volume 3.) Anthony, re acid folk's connection to country, I don't use the latter term in my forthcoming piece about Drakkar Sauna, which will soon be on PaperThinWalls, but they got the preoccupations I associate with the country state of mind, they reference their shrink and sing like the Everly Brothers sometimes. Also, as for the prototypical acid folk, the Holy Modal Rounders, who used the term "pyschedelic" in a folkabilly song in '63 blah-blah, but their travels through random canyons and capsized minds and dark hollers and iceworms and spaghetti and other traditional concerns certainly puts them round the mountainside of country, and what could be redolent of country, highland and lowland ( a really sweaty, manic mechanic), than Stampfel's voice. Start with the reissued 60s twofer, I&II, or their finally self-issued Live in '65, or thereabouts, or Have Moicy!,with them and Michael Hurley and Jeffrey Fredericks & co.

don (dow), Saturday, 3 February 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

erm, they might have used the term "psychedelic" too.

don (dow), Saturday, 3 February 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

what gives down south lucinda
this time your guitar playing
is more grooveful fun, or what?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 3 February 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

and even in '68, Malone's great Country Music U.S.A. says Cash is coming on "like a Method actor" with the Hamlet-in-tailored-black bit (did Malone know June had taken Actors Studio classes, worked with Brando and stuff?). Mainly, Malone's amused and bemused: why would Cash feel the need to push the Americana bit so hard, as if he *didn't* have his actual hard-scrabble background and actual talent,and was overcompensating? But the shock of coming out of that background, where the main thing was just to hang on to another year, like with Elvis, the shock of that, of willing yourself so far into the public eye, etc., surely has a lot to do with it. There's a new bio which reportedly peels the mythopoeic onion a bit.

don (dow), Saturday, 3 February 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

wait, wait, june did actors studios classes?

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 3 February 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, she talks about it in her books and in some of her songs. Seh met Elia Kazan in when he was in Tennessee Valley, researching for the movie about TVA flooding a valley to build a dam (The River? Been several of that title; anyway with Marilyn Monroe and Montgomery Clift). And he introduced her to Lee Strasberg, etc. She appeared in some movies and TV (live drama was big on TV back then), but music was still her default bread & butter, cos the audience knew her from all those years touring with her mother and sisters, but she'd done comic characters a lot in the stageact, felt insecure about her quirky singing,understandably so. Real intresting writer, though (books and songs).one last, Anthony: coming from the other side, some of Coe's early 70s stuff spills into acid-folkipolitan, at least in this thing I still haven't posted on thefreelancementalists yet.

don (dow), Saturday, 3 February 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

Gary Allan's "A Feelin' Like That" is streamed on his MySpace page. A nice little stomp.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 5 February 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

I'm 28 minutes into the Travis Tritt best-of, and I've finally heard a song I like, "Tell Me I Was Dreaming." The one after it, "Drift Off To Dream," is more typical. Intense in its sweetness in the verse, it drifts off into negligible niceness in the chorus. Not bad, but not making me sit up, either. In general, I've nothing against a guy with a kick-ass demeanor going sweet, but I'm not hearing enough good songs. Maybe his hits aren't his best songs. "Too Far To Turn Around" from a couple of years ago is still a total scorcher of pain; I seriously think it may be the best country track of the decade.

("T.R.O.U.B.L.E." is playing now; a good solid Jerry Lee-style rocker; it's one I've heard before, of course.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 5 February 2007 00:31 (eighteen years ago)

And I'm liking "Lord Have Mercy On The Working Man," which is neither sweet nor kickass, just a regular old honky-polka or whatever-you-call-it, too offhand to be weepy, nicely pissy, but leaving space for funny sing-along rah-rah and bright little swing solos.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 5 February 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

one the best time ive ever had in a bar, was at this rigpig palace in white court on a sat. nite, when the boys in the overalls were singing Lord Have Mercy like they were in church...the audience participation makes tritt worthwhile i think.

whats the new watson called, and where is it being released?

pinkmoose (jacklove), Monday, 5 February 2007 00:43 (eighteen years ago)

Played Joanna Newsom's Ys in the background while making lunch. Was expecting something more austere and commanding. Forgot that she's sometimes labeled "Freak Folk." Anyway, she goes neither for groove nor for song-type climax and closure, which I guess leaves storytelling, which I didn't catch since I wasn't listening to the words. I'm not falling instantly in love with the grain of her voice (or the lack of grain); but then, you wouldn't expect me to. The only thing I want to say about the alb as of now is that one of the melodies on the first track - she alternates several melodies - originally struck me as "generic" singer-songwriter folk, but not in a bad way; but then I realized it wasn't generic so much as familiar - in fact was almost identical to Nelly Furtado's "All Good Things (Come To An End)," the one Furtado wrote with Chris Martin of Coldplay. And it's by far the thing I like most (so far) on the Newsom album, but not nearly the thing I like most on the Furtado album. If Joanna's lyrics are as ridiculous as Furtado's "All Good Things (Come To An End)" I will be shocked. And it isn't as if I'm not expecting Newsom's lyrics to be ridiculous.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

Anthony, see Roy up above re Watson (where I gave its title, too):

new album, From the Cradle to the Grave, comes out at the end of April on Hyena.

xhuxk (xhuck), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:09 (eighteen years ago)

newsom's arrangement by van dyke park is wonderful, and she is an ace harp player, and it would be my album of the year if it wasnt for her voice, which grates

pinkmoose (jacklove), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:12 (eighteen years ago)

re acid folk's connection to country, I don't use the latter term in my forthcoming piece about Drakkar Sauna, which will soon be on PaperThinWalls, but they got the preoccupations I associate with the country state of mind, they reference their shrink and sing like the Everly Brothers sometimes.

This was my failed pitch to review Drakkar Sauna for Paper Thin Walls. First line probably has to do with Chris claiming that Drakkar Sauna are S&G meet Dirty Projectors or something:

I've not met the Dirty Projectors myself, and I'm not hearing any Simon & Garfunkel (Drakkar Sauna's close harmonies have more to do with old-timey country), but I am grinning a lot at this. Only one track from the current alb is streamed anywhere I can find (the delicately understated "Mongrel Of A Halfman Slave Bitch") but lots are streamed from the past, and what I'm hearing is a duo that likes to come off like clowns while inserting deep gorgeousness in the harmonies (Big & Rich without funk, maybe, though Drakkar Sauna existed before there was a Big & Rich). And the accordion (if that's what it is) is a ha-ha-ha type instrument these days, but again works its way into gorgeousness. Sometimes the voices throw a lot of hurrah in your face, sometimes they seem offhand in a Hoagy Carmichael or Slim Harpo way, sometimes they seem offhand in a glam way (I hadn't realized until this second that glam has offhand tendencies, but now I'm recalling Ray Davies camping things up while simultaneously putting a sinister or angry detachment in his voice).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:31 (eighteen years ago)

Freakytigger asks, over on his livejournal:

To what extent is the Grand Ole Opry still a centre of mainstream country music? Is it a primary motor, a big influence, a fond bit of nostalgia, a complete irrelevance, what?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

stonewall jackson is suing the opry for age discrimination, and in my last couple of years of watching the opry, it has gone from a fond bit of nostalgia to a place for professional nostalgists to something else, not quite a motor, but they are working for realvence (ie from crystal gale to brad paisley to dierks bentley)

pinkmoose (jacklove), Monday, 5 February 2007 03:04 (eighteen years ago)

Great description of the Sauna, Frank. I think the Simon & Garfunkel thing might come in re sly boys strumming: I was walking along, thinking about DS today, and realized I was subvocalizing, "We'd like to know a little bit about you for our files," although they already do, of course, they just want to compare it with your version.

don (dow), Monday, 5 February 2007 04:43 (eighteen years ago)

I'm 28 minutes into the Travis Tritt best-of, and I've finally heard a song I like, "Tell Me I Was Dreaming." The one after it, "Drift Off To Dream," is more typical...("T.R.O.U.B.L.E." is playing now

Sounds like you started listening to the album toward the end, around the two-thirds or three-quarters mark, maybe. For whatever it's worth, the better songs on Tritt's best-of do tend to be front-loaded, at least on my advance copy; of 20 tracks total, I could definitely live without everything after track #12, though I'll concede "T.R.O.U.B.L.E."'s relative quasi-rockabilly vigor (and did upthread already). So I agree -- for such an apparent Nashville presence, and somebody who obviously shares certain affinities with a kind of blue-collar Southern rock I'm generally quite open to, the guy really does seem to have a dearth of decent hits. I've listened to a couple of his albums over the years, and don't hearing much better stuff on those, though it's been a while and I could be wrong. Kandia Crazy Horse Pazz&Jopped one album by him a couple years ago, as I recall, but I don't think I ever heard that one.

xhuxk (xhuck), Monday, 5 February 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

...don't remember hearing much better stuff...

xhuxk (xhuck), Monday, 5 February 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

i dunno, tritt was always smarter than he wanted you to let on, but you couldn't help noticing the calculation. i quite like "it's a great day to be alive," the very first song on "the very best of travis tritt." you know, some of y'all were talking about john mellancamp--well, to me, even in the pix of trav in the booklet, he's kinda what mellancamp wanted to be. remember when the big thing with cougar/mellancamp was his use of "rustic" instruments? the opener, to my ears, is unique because it really goes somewhere, great arrangement, and it's so self-consciously rustic in effect. you cain't git away from the goldanged Band, even in nashville.

but yeah, it palls after a while. but i always dug some of these hits, even though travis kind of also looked stupid to me, because you knew how smart this country boy was. "where corn don't grow" is also great. his voice is like randy owen's, but the material is so much better than alabama's, and i hear tritt as pretty "authentic" on "where corn." and fuck, the even better than usually good six-second guitar lick.

far as the opry--the one out northeast of town, where all the gift shops are, and where you can still go see charlie louvin, and go to the midnite jamboree in the theatre next to the ernest tubb record shop out there--and its relevance, well, it's a sign of the times that the old downtown where the ryman sits is now tres hip indeed, and the midnite jamboree and all that out there is, like, the pre-Garth nashville and perceived as such, uh oh. (you can't git away from Garth here, even when the fat fucker's in edmond.)

xps

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds like you started listening to the album toward the end, around the two-thirds or three-quarters mark, maybe.

Well, the odd thing was that the order AOL listed the songs wasn't the order they streamed them, so I don't know where I was.

This week they're streaming Tracy Lawrence.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

i got the tracey lawerence promo from the label, and the new jason meadows, which is coming out in april. the new meadows im kind of excited about, b/c i really liked him on nashville star, but it might be more my dick then my ears.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Monday, 5 February 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

Tom Breihan on Toby Keith and Miranda Lambert:

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/2007/02/live_conservati.php

xhuxk (xhuck), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

nothing new there xhuxk.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 06:35 (eighteen years ago)

"new"? it was one of the best music pieces i've read all year, anthony (which is not to say i agree with everything in it.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 06:53 (eighteen years ago)

though i just remembered why the jay-z comparison sounded familiar:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0349,eddy,49129,22.html

xhuxk (xhuck), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 06:54 (eighteen years ago)

the peice is well written, a nice condensing of common wisdom wrt Keith, but ive read it in Rednecks and Bluenecks, Franks said it, Youve said it, Edd's said it, Don's said it.

(actually its really well written and the jay z riff is kind of awesome)

pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 07:13 (eighteen years ago)

Lambert, a onetime Nashville Star runner-up, has a thin, twangy keen, as perfectly suited for desperate, searching breakup ballads as it is for spunky, self-reliant road-songs...

the weird thing is that i cant keep underwood and lambert in check, and i keep realising that its underwood i am impressed with more than lambert...before he cheats is more violent and disruptive, the details are meaner, then Lambert's Kerosene, though Kerosene does more damage, neither have much twang and i dont think lamberts voice is v. thin...what was the desperate searching breakup ballad here? is there a single im missing?

pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 07:34 (eighteen years ago)

The guys in the horn section (two black, one white: to call them the most integrated country band I've ever seen is to say exactly nothing)

Or to say: "I need to see more country bands."

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

Roy, I think that's exactly what he's saying.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting (but only for roots-likers, Xhuxk might hate this but maybe not, not sure): Martha Scanlan's record The West Was Burning. She's in the Reeltime Travelers (O Brother soundtrack), and she's kind of a folkie sometimes but with an interesting tumbling word-flow thing, other times she sounds like a bit of a gospel-rocker ("Get Right Church" sounds like modern pretty-good Marty Stuart), and she also hoes the hell down at times. Also, Levon Helm and his daughter Amy are her drummers.

Anyway, I like it even though her voice is kind of like a grandma voice at times.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

I mentioned a new Cash bio, "said to peel the mythopoeic onion a bit": here tis, from Edward Morris's review in Bookpage, may be archived at bookpage.com, but the print edition's free at my library (and I've gotten very tired of reading on a screen when I don't have to):"Michael Striessguth, who has written extensively about Johnny Cash before, essays a final summation of the singer/songwriter's career and personal struggles in in Johnny Cash: The Biography (Da Capo...)As the author points out, Cash had a direct hand in shaping his earlier biographies, from which he emerged as a flawed but larger than life figure who ultimately had gained control of his demons. While clearly a great admirer of Cash and his music, Streissguth nevertheless chips away at the sanitized version of "The Man In Black." In so doing, he makes Cash more human and, thus, his achivements all the more remarkable." Does a ton of interviews, incl. "...numerous record company executives who witnessed and/or contributed to Cash's rise and fall. Of particular relevance...his flinty and love-withholding father, Ray,and his second wife, June Carter, who emerges as both self-sacrificing and self-aggrandizing (yeah, and well worth a Streissguthian investigation too). Obsessed by religion and the desire to live righteously, Cash, nonetheless, was more of a drug addict than he ever admitted, and, says the author, a womanizer even as he publicly trumpeted his love for June. This is the best study of Cash to date." My main intrest would be in any discussion of how this stuff affected JC's music, re shaping and reshaping of persona. As in Bernard Crick's critical bio of Orwell.

don (dow), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

So would it be crazy to fly to Nashville to see Charlie Louvin. He's not going to come to England anytime soon... ARGH! I can find anymore details of his show other than on his website so if anyone can shed any light...

FACEBRACE (FACEBRACE), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

Depends on where you're flying from. I saw Louvin last fall at the AMAs (Edd was there too). I'd never seen him before, so I'm glad I did. But you should know that his voice really is gone, far gone, and while he can still be effective, I found even a 30 minute set somewhat taxing.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

*So would it be crazy to fly to Nashville to see Charlie Louvin. He's not going to come to England anytime soon... ARGH! I can find anymore details of his show other than on his website so if anyone can shed any light...*

what show are you talking about? I know Louvin's doing an instore record-release thing on feb. 24 in Nashville, and I'm trying to get more details on what that's gonna be, since I'm set to write it up for the Scene here. I called Charlie but he didn't seem to know, so I'm gonna talk to the guy at his label. (He is doing an extensive tour for his new record--there are dates in Philly and NYC, as far as I know.) As for his voice/flying to N-ville to see him, Roy is right--his voice is kinda, well, old. Not shot totally, but thick. (His new record works, in my estimation, because it's pretty craftily designed to work around his voice--but Charlie has made noises about how the producer went in "after hours" and tinkered with it, took out things and added others. Apparently, the record was waay too Branson-ed out originally, using some of CL's old cronies, like The Banjalist, Derwin Hinson, some of whose work survived the cut.) So it'd be cool to just go to Nashville and see him, but don't expect anything too transcendent. Charlie's 79 years old. Anyway, I should be there at that record-release party on Feb. 24 at Grimey's Records.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

I was planning to fly to Nashville in the middle of March to see George Jones at the Ryman and Charlie Louvin play McMinnville, but I went and got a new job and there are things I'll have to do that weekend. I'm a bit gutted. I'd be amazed of Charlie comes to the UK again (I'm assuming he's been before but I don't knbow that for sure).

I flew to the States last year to see Lee Ann Womack and George Jones, and I had the greatest time, it wasn't crazy at all.

Mark Nevers produced the CL LP yes? I undestand he tinkers like crazy. given the opportunity.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 8 February 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

Loving The Essential Charlie Rich (two discs, new on Epic/Legacy) this morning, especially "I Washed My Hands in Muddy Water" so far.

Liking the new Elizabeth Cook album okay so far, which was more than I could say for her last one, which struck me as more tepid than its trappings promised, as I recall. This time she covers the Velvet Underground's "Sunday Morning" and it sounds very pretty, and ends with a song called "Always Tomorrow" that takes its chorus melody from the part in Hank Williams's "Honky Tonk Blues" (a song I've never totally loved, to be honest) where he says "lord I got 'em..."

Only got a few songs into the new Norah Jones, the new Rickie Jones, and the Baille from Baille and the Boys CDs last night before I wondered why I was wasting even that much time with them.

Am nearing that point with The Good, The Bad & The Queen, who are sounding more vaguely folky than I expected so far; for some reason I figured they'd be more dub or world-beat or something. They'd be more interesting if they were, probably.

Drakkar Sauna (who sent me three CDs, only one of which I've put into the CD changer so far) are sounding only slightly less vaguely folky so far; in fact, I'd probably be dismissing them as just more interchangeable anti-folk twits if Frank didn't express fondness for their alleged humor and harmonies upthread. So I will try to listen more. So far they seem more precious than funny. Ditto their song titles. But it's not like I've given them much of a chance yet.

Rhino reissue of Warren Zevon's The Envoy is sounding pretty (as in "ain't that pretty at all") good, though both "Looking For The Next Best Thing" and "Jesus Mentioned" are less lively and more boring than I'd remembered. (Rhino also sent Excitable Boy and Stand In The Fire reissues, both of which I expect to rock harder, though I may or may not like them more.)

The new album by Lucinda Williams, whose sound was no doubt instrumental in making it okay for country-oriented lady singers to cover Velvet Underground songs, has not been put on yet. I've been avoiding it. I never liked her all that much even when I liked her okay.(i.e., Car Wheels, the only album by her I've ever kept.)

Okay...Good Bad & Queen's "The Bunting Song" on now. Headline: Brit-Pop Still Sucks. Forget these twerps.

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:25 (eighteen years ago)

...Rickie LEE Jones, that is. (who this time does no songs about Chuck E. Also I liked her more when she had more saxophones.) (i.e., her debut album, only album by her I've ever cared about.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:28 (eighteen years ago)

don't have time to look it up now, but a Charlie Louvin feat. George Jones track was recently reviewed on http://www.paperthnwalls.com. You can at least stream it, even if the free download has expired.(maybe visible down the front page, or in archive, but not far down, you'll see it on the calender in there) Anthony, if you're still backdelving into acid folk, you might also consider Nirvana's MTV Unplugged, esp. covers of Vaselines, Meat Puppets, Leadbelly, not that Nirvana's own lyrics can't be pretty torturously surreal, esp. in this context, denuded of boom. Also (not so much the country connection, except as country & Leadbelly etc. also concerned with mortality etc), but more as to why any non-specialist might find *some* acid folk (incl. proto- & other predecessors)worth checking out, see my "Barred Bards" in Voice archive.

don (dow), Thursday, 8 February 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

re charlie louvin's voice: on the new album, he sounds very much like current george jones. old and weathered and creaky, for sure, but it's a nice late-night or early-morning country album. and his old and weathered and creaky voice sounds a lot better than, say, that of his middle-aged and blustery duet partner elvis costello.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 8 February 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

Loving The Essential Charlie Rich (two discs, new on Epic/Legacy) this morning

is that a repackaging of legacy's 2-disc feel like going home? a damn nice overview, that was. my all-time favorite male singer, probably.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 8 February 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

been picking up a lot of charlie rich lately. the smash stuff might just the best he ever did, which is not to say that he wasn't almost always great. (ok, the later sherrill things are kind of cloying, and i for one find his last record, "pictures and paintings," a bit underwhelming. but he was sick, i think.)

what's interesting about that louvin record is how superficially cl and george jones do sound alike. but then you hear just how full jones' voice really is, even on those couple of cameos he does--he might've learned how to sing at least in part from the louvins, but jones far outclasses charlie louvin. it's a far better record than one might've thought. even with costello in there, and i have to admit that elvis sings better now than he used to, but i just basically find his voice annoying, you know?


new incredible stringdusters record "fork in the road" is excellent neo-grass; good songs in there, some they wrote, some they found, and then there's a really lame one (great idea: don't take pictures of landscapes, just remember it real well for your Beloved One; but basically lame in its final form) by john mayer. and they actually seem to halfway mean them. the instrumental stuff has its share of surprises. real listenable for this basic non-fan of bluegrass.

xp

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 8 February 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

i treasure my charlie rich smash compilation (the complete smash sessions) and don't let anyone else near it. and i loathe pictures and paintings, which just sounds wan to me. not sure what you mean by the later sherrill things, but despite the great smash sides and the rocking sun sides, it's the classic billy sherrill hits that i love best about charlie. those are such relaxed, assured, graceful, perfect records.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 8 February 2007 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

Complete Smash Sessions yeah, and the 2-LP collection, Fully Realized (title from Guralnick's evaluation of these 60s sides, as hism most FR up to early 70s; maybe they weren't his absolute best, but in terms of producers, labels, his own inner demonds not fardling delivery, quite a set of milestones)(Guralnick also OTM re "Milky White Way," although it's only on his gospel album, far as I know; the rest of it sounds OK to me, but just a warning) The link for the PTW review (by Jesse Jarnow) of Louvin feat. George Jones rendition of "Must You Throw Dirt In My Face," which you can still stream: http://www.paperthinwalls.con/singlefile/item?id=390
Also, on there today, not country, but of interest re our discussion on here of rare soul etc., in today's PTW, Steve C. reviews Broadneck's "Psychedelic Excursion, " from The Birmingham Soul of Neal Hemphill Vol.1. Sure wish I'd heard of Hemphill's operationwhen I lived in B'ham; obviously., the local tradition of bluecollar visionaries did not end with Arthur Hardrock Gunter. Also, in the Comments, Whiney G. provides more backstory (and of course you can still downlowd as well as stream the track): http://www.paperthiwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=523 (Also today: I review a track by Amnesty, Nate reviews one by Bob and Gene.)

don (dow), Thursday, 8 February 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

my own inner demonds fardling typing: Hemphill's actual link: http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=523

don (dow), Thursday, 8 February 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

Loving The Essential Charlie Rich (two discs, new on Epic/Legacy) this morning
is that a repackaging of legacy's 2-disc feel like going home?

I dunno. But damn, the thing kills. 36 songs, from "Lonely Weekends" and "Big Boss Man" and "Mohair Sam" to "Behind Closed Doors" and "The Most Beautiful Girl" and beyond. My favorite in the past 15 minutes has probably been "River, Stay Away From My Door," either that or "When Something Is Wrong With My Baby." So far I love it all.

Elizabeth Cook is bugging me. Just too self-consciously retro, in a cloying way. Which I know is not a very coherent criticism. I do get the comparisons of her vocals to Dolly's. But it's a reigned-in, antiseptic version of a Dolly that hasn't existed for 30 years at least. So yeah, she still seems tepid to me. She means well, and she sings sweetly enough, but she'd be much more fun if her production wasn't stuck somewhere back in ancient history. The Dolly I like most was the Dolly that wasn't afraid to disco. So I don't get it.

In Warren Zevon's "The Envoy" (title track), Israel's attacking the Iraqis and Baghdad does whatever she please. Great, rocking song. And the ballad about Jesus and Graceland sounds better than this morning (though I still always prefer Warren drunk and kicking butt.)


xhuxk (xhuck), Friday, 9 February 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)

Er, obviously retro stuck-in-ancient-history production is not bad in and of itself (he says while a real good new stoner-metal CD by Hidden Hand and a pretty good new boogie-rock CD by Dirty Sweet* are also in his CD changer). It's that the particular history Elizabeth chooses either didn't have that much life in it in the first place, or if it did (which is more likely -- Dolly did!), it's been lost somowhere along the way. (But this complaint is ancient itself, duh.)

* -- their tracks that sound like Black Crowes and Jet are okay, but it's the longer, heavier stomps like "Red River" I'm really liking.

xhuxk (xhuck), Friday, 9 February 2007 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

and speaking of Drakkar Sauna, review & track just now showed up (with somewhut related tracks reviewed by Andy Beta, Jesse Jarnow, Reed Fischer, Marc Masters): http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=505

don (dow), Friday, 9 February 2007 07:51 (eighteen years ago)

the Sherrill Rich records I mean are "Behind Closed Doors" (album) and "Very Special Love Songs," both of which are monstrosities, in my opinion. but then the Epic stuff from earlier in the decade--"Boss Man" and "Fabulous Charlie Rich"--are just great.

the other Rich stuff I got includes "Big Boss Man: The Groove Sessions," '63 to '65, all done at RCA in Nashville. "Are You Still My Baby" kills. And then the Complete Smash Sessions, which includes the insane "Santa Claus' Daughter" and the amazing "Just a Little Bit of Time" and the even more amazing "Blowin' Town." And then I picked up the Koch reissues of "Set Me Free" and "Fabulous."

Sorta on the fence about Cook. Doesn't rock hard enough, and why not do "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" if you wanna do Lou Reed and shock the rubes? It is retro. Dunno, I guess I want to like it more than I do; I really liked it first time I played it, but then I got distracted. In fact, I'm gonna listen to it again this morning.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 9 February 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

I was just coming to the thread to say that I have trouble deciding whether I prefer Rich's Groove Sessions or the Smash sessions, and that on balance I think Groove wins out. The Hi sessions are pretty good too!

I always return to Behind Closed Doors thinking "this time I'll get it", and I never do. I haven't really investigated the post-Behind CLosed Doors stuff.

Except, that last LP he made - "Pictures and Paintings", something like that? - was surprisingly fine also. I love Charlie Rich.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 9 February 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

i love all of those koch reissues of charlie rich, especially the fabulous charlie rich, which has his masterpiece, "life's little ups and downs." but i must disagree with you, edd, on behind closed doors, which i think is nearly as good. the two big singles, especially "the most beautiful girl," are towering poop moments, and there's lots of other good yacht-rocky and bluesy country going on there ("sunday kind of woman" and "i take it on home," for example). (and yeah, it has its cloying moments, no doubt about that.)

my fave moments on the complete smash sessions are probably the upbeat, garage-rocky "just a little bit of time" and the slow, somewhat complicated "the best years."

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 9 February 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Listening to the Drakkar Sauna track that's streamed and Allred-reviewed over on PTW. Similar to earlier Drakkar Sauna I'd heard except that it lasts for nine minutes without any pretence of going anywhere. I paid vague attention to the lyrics, which seemed humorous once again (or "humorous," depending on how much you like 'em) about going various places and shooting oneself. Occasional interludes where the guitars leisurely drift in and out of dissonance. Once again, the tongues are supposed to be in cheek but the tunes and harmonies seem not to know this and go for straightup prettiness.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 February 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

Not my cup of meat usually, but the harmonies and lyrics kept jumping out of the murk, or jumping up and down in it, on their branch (a tree grows in Kansas)

don (dow), Friday, 9 February 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

listening to bedtime story by tammy, i can hear a bit of peggy lee, is it just me?

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 10 February 2007 07:57 (eighteen years ago)

Hi Anthony, when are our comments gonna be on lefthip.com, or did I miss them? If so, got a link?

don (dow), Saturday, 10 February 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

don, ive been meaning to email you, they will be going up as part of a seires, and the editor wants photos

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 10 February 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

No way to send a photo, just substitute a public domain cartoon face or something, please thx

don (dow), Saturday, 10 February 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

So I finally just a half hour ago heard Johnny Cougar's "Our Country" whilst sock-shopping in a discount store down the street (three pairs grey plus three pairs black for $3.98 -- good deal!), and inasmuch as I could evaluate it there (only heard the last half I think), I have to say it did not sound as horrible as I had been warned. Which is not to say it sounded good. But at least I could tell immediately who it was, and I figured out in about two seconds what it was. Which counts for something. The chorus's words are basically a defanging of Woody Guthrie telling us from the redwood forests to the gulf-stream waters this land is our land, right? Maybe too blatant for anybody to have pointed out? I suppose.

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 10 February 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

don

do you have a cartoon face in mind

chuck
i dont wear socks

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 10 February 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

Don't your feet get cold? (This time of year sometimes I wear two pairs at once myself.)

Waitin On A Train = old-timey bluegrassy strums played speedily but not especially tunefully or skilfully in any other discernible way. Boring singer with no special aptitute for power or beauty. From Pennyslvania, aparently. On The Left and George Brigman's label Bona Fide. Reputedly doing for bluegrass what the Pogues once did for Irish jigs. Not true. Basically remind me of Old Crow Medicine Show.

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 10 February 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

(Though I think even Old Crow Medicine Show have/had more rhythmic talking-blues sense. At least on their debut. Followup was a snooze.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 10 February 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

(Though er, ah, the album I think of as their "debut" wasn't per se' actually their debut, was it? O.C.M.S.M I mean. I vaguely remember that they had a couple before that, but I never heard them.)

Album by Glenn Stewart in the mail today. His cdbaby page indicates that he used to be in an '80s band (rock, I assume) (actually, hair metal I assume even more) that had some success, but he doesn't name what the band was, and a quick google search didn't help, so maybe he's embarrassed. Nowadays he wears a cowboy hat. So far I heard one love ballad I didn't like on the album (not sure its name), one Southern rocker ("Dance Little Donna") I liked a lot, and one Bon Jovi solo style power ballad ("Love Comes Knockin'") that convinces me I was right about the hair metal part. (Also he has one track intriguingly titled "My So Called Life," but I've yet to hear it.)

xhuxk (xhuck), Saturday, 10 February 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

the elastic bugs me more then my feet getting cold.

i really like randy travis.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 10 February 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

via metal thread, though it has nothing to do with metal actually:

Black Angel (cdbaby Stones-rock, sufficently DFX2-like so far though the song now "American Wedding" is nicely drawled late '70s Stones-country quoting "crimson and clover over and over" in its lyrics).
...

Wow, Black Angel's "One Beer" on now, even better Stones-country Some Girls style; dude's singing about being a country boy down at the 7-11 on Desolation Row drinking a beer for the devil and in love with the queen of hip-hop soul. (Guess I should be posting this on the country thread instead; sorry folx.)

Anyway:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/bangel

Now they're mentioning George Jones in a song called "Country Symphony."


xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 11 February 2007 00:37 (eighteen years ago)

also first published on metal thread:

From Glenn Stewart's myspace page:

Influences 1- Part JoDee Messina, for all the inspiration she has given me through her music and her being. To the fact she made me think out side the box when it came to my song writing. Part Cinderella, for if you stripped the "hair band" title and the gargling with razorblade vocals, they provided, raw, meaning full southern rock influence with a great feel ( especially Long Cold Winter.

His album is so far seeming too ballady for its own good, but "Brand New Day" is powerchorded hair-metal for sure.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/glennstewart

xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 11 February 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

Personally, I miss the gargling with razorblade vocals. But "Freight Train -- Here I Go" is good, too.

xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 11 February 2007 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

Anthony: if you could find a cartoon face with a mullet, that would be good, since I write about Seger's collection from 70s on, or a 70s Have A Nice Day smiley face (with a mullet if possible!) or a teddy bear head.

don (dow), Sunday, 11 February 2007 04:02 (eighteen years ago)

Posted this on the teenpop thread and might as well post it here as well, taken originally from my Songs Of The Day posts on my MySpace page:

let's just end with the song of the day for December 6, 2006, Taylor Swift's "Tim McGraw." The subject matter's been run into the ground (memories of first love, coming of age), but her words are exceptionally precise and evocative - no line in particular, just the way the details pile up: little black dress, box hidden under her bed, etc. "September saw a month of tears/And thanking God that you weren't here/To see me like that." Very skillful, makes not-quite-in-the-vernacular phrasing ("saw a month of tears") feel normal in context (ditto for "the moon like a spotlight on the lake"). She's canny in balancing wistfulness and self-assertion. She hopes that when the boy thinks of Tim McGraw he thinks of her favorite song. She leaves a letter on his doorstep to make sure he does.

let's just end with the song of the day for December 19, 2006, Taylor Swift's "Tim McGraw," which I already did a couple of weeks ago, but the song keeps getting richer and richer the more I hear it. She uses the word "bittersweet," and she's not kidding. The first time she sings the chorus, "When you think Tim McGraw, I hope you think my favorite song," it means "I hope you have warm memories of me," but by song's end it also means "I hope I haunt you, fucker, the way you haunted me. Sincerely, your discarded girlfriend, Taylor." It doesn't abandon the first meaning, just layers another one on top.

But this is what I wrote on a comments thread in my livejournal:

Best new lyrics I heard all year, I think. They balance so perfectly that anything I say probably overstates the mood one way or another; but in the first chorus when she goes "When you think Tim McGraw, I hope you think my favorite song" it's simply sweet, but by the third chorus those words carry hurt and bitterness and a whole expanse of sadness, and a hint of aggression, as well (as if to say, "may that song haunt you," though that overstates it) - while retaining the sweetness.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 11 February 2007 05:47 (eighteen years ago)

Keith Urban sounded pretty great on SNL tonight.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 11 February 2007 05:49 (eighteen years ago)

And this is what I wrote about the Wreckers:

let's just end with the song of the day for December 16, 2006, the Wreckers' "Stand Still, Look Pretty." "You might think it's easy being me/Just stand still, look pretty," sing a couple of gorgeous exteenpoppers. With looks like that they don't know if they have a right to their distress, but they're falling apart anyway. Interesting premise, which they don't take anywhere, so the lyrics feel whiny and empty. But with a quiet rasp in the voice and with the melody hanging around an irresolute "mi" note, the sound delivers some of the sadness that the words aren't up to.

(You can find my MySpace blog here.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 11 February 2007 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

in a whole different direction, reviewing the new alasdair roberts, adn its a collection of traditional ballads, plus work hes done, but the work hes done is lyrically so close to the childe model, that it is impossible to tell the difference, and i dont know if thats a good thing or not

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 11 February 2007 06:52 (eighteen years ago)

from rolling metal:

Bay City Rollers quote in Glenn Stewart's otherwise Heartbreak Station-worthy "Freight Train--Here I Go": "Yes, no, maybe so, Oh no, I gotta go." Thanks to the new Sirens album for reminding me.

xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 11 February 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Hey all, Charlie Louvin is in Nashville this week, and he was on WRVU on Hipbilly Jamborree last night, talking about his new album, Ira, etc. It was really fantastic. I think it starts around 8 and 1/2 minutes in.

http://wrvu.org/schedule.html

(click below the show name to stream)

He was really delightful and telling me all sorts of blonde jokes. He also sang Eddy Arnold's "Molly" to me, and I almost passed out.

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

Louvin's signing CDs at the Country Music Hall of Fame on 2/24 at 2 p.m. in Nashville, before he heads down to Grimey's. Really grown fond of the record, esp. his take on Jimmie Rodgers.
Now, got to see how Miranda Lambert's new one is...

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:59 (eighteen years ago)

WHILE ILM WAS OUT:

FRANK:
Just posted this on my mice pace profile as my song of the day (loved
the
Babys cover as well; thought the "Missing You" duet with Alison Krauss
was
tepid, though not bad):

let's just end with the song of the day for February 16, 2007, John
Waite's
"Highway 61 Revisited." It's a full-scale Chess blues reimagining of
the
song, as grimey and forceful and funny as a Muddy Waters track, but of
course w/ Dylan's collage-and-paste comic terror words, sung by Waite
with
no attempt to sound the least bit Chicago but instead using the same
late
'70s-early'80s high-pitched hair-rockpop delivery he'd used back in his
late
'70s-early '80s high-pitched hair-rockpop heyday. So it's impassioned
and
ingratiating while the blues grinds away underneath. He lets loose with
"Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah" at the end. Inspired. I can't say I was
expecting this.

[Not that I ever paid enough attention to Babys-Waite-Bad English to
have
fully formed expectations anyway]


FRANK:
The Waite is a new album, on which he reworks some of his old songs and
also
covers some other people; you would have read about it on the rolling
country thread, where Xhuxk mentioned it a few times. The duet with
Krauss
(now a Rounder labelmate) is #42 with a weak bullet on the Mediabase
country
airplay chart: a negligible jump of 50 plays nationally over the last 7
days, so my guess is that at most it goes to the mid 30s unless the vid
suddenly takes off on CMT or VH1. On the chart, it's Alison's name atop
the
marquee, not John's. Don't know where the song is on the most recent
Billboard country chart (other than it's not in the Top 25).

Here's the video, if you're interested. Alison walks into the studio,
John's
singing on one side of the glass, she's singing on the other, then
they're
on the same side but on separate mics, looking across at each other, at
the
end of the session they leave, shake hands outside the studio, she goes
off
in one direction (perhaps some stress in her face and a glistening of
the
eyes), he goes off in another direction, he's walking down a narrow
passageway, after a while he turns around, starts to head back, video
ends:

http://mp.aol.com/video.index.adp?pmmsid=1841805&referer=http%3A//music.aol.com/artist/alison-krauss/647/main&mode=1

Set in some southern city, obviously; something about it says New
Orleans,
where I've never visited so I don't know. (Would add another layer of
meaning to the phrase "missing you.") Also, the song now seems better
than
the "tepid" I labeled it in the previous email (or seeing Alison makes
*me*
feel less tepid), though it's not up there with "Highway 61" or "Isn't
It
Time."

DON:
Yikes,
not only
did I read about Waites's Rounder set on RC, I think I have that promo!
Dig I
must. (PS: Elana James's s/t solo debut is hot and cool in all the
right
places. She used to be in Hot Club of Cowtown, but is better off
without them,
seems like.Have to dig up my HC too.)

ROY:
Whenever the sand-free ILM is back--I'm sure it's futile to even ask if
anyone knows anything about an ETA--I'm certain I'll be talking about
the new Pam Tillis, which is shockingly good.

I do not get Rounder publicity. I've been writing about their records
for years--but some I get, some I don't. I'd very much like to hear the
Waite.

CHUCK:

Tillis album is okay. Haven't played it beginning to end, but in the CD changer so far it strikes me a bit too much as a folk-is-better-than-pop move (not that Pam didn't always have a few toes in folk in the first place, of course, and not that folk often *isn't* better than pop, but still.) I keep thinking "Over My Head" is going to be the Fleetwood Mac song and I'm always disappointed when it's not but I wind up liking it anyway. "Down By The Water" seems okay, too, and the John Anderson duet where he talks about purple cows. "Something Burning Out" and "Someone Somewhere Tonight" seem less good, but I haven't had time this week to pay close attention to the thing, so my thoughts could entirely flip-flop.

My country song of the week, my song of the week period, was "One Beer" on the great Dec '06 CDBaby album by Black Angel, since it predicts the Grammy Awards by toasting with one beer both "Mary J Blige the queen of hip-hop soul" and "the Dixie Chicks the queen of Texas soul." (I don't think the nominations had been made by the time the CD came out, but I could be wrong.) Like I said, though, the whole album is great, though I wish the track the steals that tough "Nutbush City Limits" riff ("Kiss It") turned into more of a song, and I wish the song that mentions (pretends to feature?) (*does* feature? though I dont' think so) Dwight Yoakam ("Drinkin' Woman") didn't sound so much like Tom Waits.

Country tune of the past couple days has been on the Detroit Cobras' new *Tried and True*. They never struck me as country before, but every time "On A Monday" (a total rockabilly two-step) comes on, I mistakingly think I love a track on the new Tillis album (which I might regardless, I just don't know yet.) "Try Love" seems fairly country too. But for all I know that might be where the Cobras' country ends; I'm not sure yet. Album is on Bloodshot, so a country move would make some sense maybe. (Bloodshot's doing the new Gore Gore Girls album, too, due out in couple months.) So far my favorite track is "Nothing But A Heartache"; that's an old Motown cover, right? Not sure if the others are covers or not. Problem is with the Cobras I've always gotten tired of their albums rather quickly; their previous one had a good song about eating hot dogs, but it's not on my shelf anymore. Though *Mink Rat or Rabbit* still is. Their singing seems to be improving, but I still tend to think they're no Gore Gore Girls for some reason. Which probaby has something to do with the lack of Amy Surdu's guitar.

That John Waite album is pretty good. And yeah, the Babys updates "Isn't It Time" and "Head First" rule. I think I also liked "New York City Girl," "St Patrick's Day", and especially "The Hard Way" (which sonically earned its title as I recall), none of which I'd ever heard in any version before. But I think I marked the tracks I liked most on the advance copy I sent to Frank, so I can't be completely sure.

MATT:
Well, at least you LIKE the Pam T. record, kinda. I don't hear 'folk' in it as much as I hear her beloved 1970s country-rock (which had a lot of folk in it natch) and some weirder stuff. Predictably, my favorite song is "Crazy by Myself," the one written by Matraca Berg; it makes emotional sense to me, even though it really ends up not making any internal sense. But yeah that duet, where they're getting all nostalgic about "Eat a Peach", and yeah the Bruce Robison song, and yeah the whole thing really.

I'm reviewing the new Tin Hat record for AllAboutJazz.com and I think they make a crucial error by going away from their occasionally-country-ish jazz sound. They've hoed down before but the new one is more like freak-folk jazz and That Will Not Stand with this reviewer. It's fine, but it's just not my flavor.

EDD:
yeah, Pam Tillis made a good record I don't find very exciting, which as usual might be the point. The players are all the same a-listers--J.T. Corenflos, who in my opinion is what makes Dierks Bentley cool to listen to, among them--and as Matt points out, the Berg song is real good. I dunno, I find myself totally in sympathy with what they're trying to do, but it does strike me as retro. Very 1974. And so this is her "personal statement" she could not sell to Music Row? She does look pretty good in that pink hat on the insert. All I know is, John Anderson is always good to hear--maybe he's a bit wasted. (Haven't gone back to his Easy Money, except to groove on "Brown Liquor," which the whole record probably should've sounded like instead of Big & Rich's lame-ass ballads. Not their strength. ) So maybe Pam's "austerity" in contrast is better?

ROY:
Edd and I talked about this in a non-group email, but I don't hear it
as especially retro; it's less retro than her tribute to her-r-r-r
fa-a-ather from a few years back. And when was the last time she had
Music Row hot and bothered? She's old enough to know better. What I
like most about the album are the songs and the way her voice, such a
cool instrument, gets all the nuances, or maybe it's the other way
around. To me it's more country-is-folk-is-pop if anything, so perhaps
it's not that far from 1974 after all.

FRANK:
On MySpace, listening to the Black Angels, who probably aren't the
Black
Angel that Chuck's talking about, but they do list 'selves as
Psychedelic,
Folk-Rock, Experimental. First track, "Black Grease" starts with the
riff to
"20th Century Boy" which is great but then the voice is more like Jack
White's jangled tonsils - which can also be great but this time isn't
(and
anyway it isn't Jack), and the track hangs back as a lethargic lysergic
drone. 'S OK, maybe. Def Leppard's "20th Century Boy" (on *their*
MySpace
and last year's covers CD) is far better.

OK, went to CDBaby and found the right "Black Angel" - "One Beer"
sounds
like country by people whose first love Stones Stones Stones ahead of
country, and that's fine with me; funny *Exile* murk (that's a
compliment,
by the way, even if the murk is one of the reasons *Exile*'s not in my
top
ten Stones albs [also self-effacement, also shortage of songs]). Not as
good
as the Stones, unsurprisingly, but worth a second listen.

Unrelated to the topic at hand and not in itself related to country,
but I'm
listening to 10 songs I dl'd for the Stylus Jukebox Sophisto-Pop
special
('80s tracks by Curiosity Killed the Cat, Bryan Ferry, Aztec Camera,
the
Style Council, etc.) and with exactly one exception - Sade's "Smooth
Operator" - they are dull dull dull dull, and not just dull but cloddy
(sayeth Simon Frith at the time: Brits can't sing!) (though I'm too
busy to
head to Wikipedia and find out which of these performers are Brits),
but
also a bad choice given the subgenre (ABC has done better stuff than
"When
Smokey Sings"; I have no idea if Blow Monkeys and Swing Out Sister did
anything better than their shitty tracks here, and I'm not likely to
find
out). And doing cloddy music in a style that draws on stuff that had
been
done more smoothly by nonhip anonymous pros in America twenty to thirty
years earlier is not "sophisticated." It may be poignant, it may be
worth
doing, it may even be passionate or pretty in spots (I like the Bryan
Ferry
track "Don't Stop The Dance" reasonably well, and he's done better;
also
like "Shattered Dreams" by Johnny Hates Jazz), but it's to
sophistication as
Jewel is to poetry. Bringing my thoughts countryward, when Alan Jackson
went
smooth jazz 'n' blues on his last album there may have been a bullshit
"respectability" element but indeed it is beautiful smooth jazz 'n'
blues,
and Toby Keith basically doing creamy quiet-storm soul (did anyone
outside
of the rolling country thread notice that that's what he's doing?) is
equally beautiful, and Gene Watson doing "What A Difference A Day
Makes"
etc. is better still.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 February 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

MORE!

FRANK:
Remember the opening scene in *Blazing Saddles* where bosses tell the
black
convicts on the chain gang to sing a work song to help with their
labor, so
the convicts break into an elegant version of "I get no kick from
champagne"? Well, the start of Christina Aguilera's "Candyman" is this
in
reverse: the lyrics start "Tarzan and Jane were swinging on a vine
(candyman, candyman)/Sippin' from a bottle of vodka double wine (sweet,
sugar, candyman)," but the music is a bona fide work-song or march-song
chant (sampled? recreated?). What follows steps halfway between Andrews
sisters swingbrat pizzazz and Stick McGhee's glug-glug party blues, but
doesn't feel retro so much as feels like Xtina being omniverous. Her
voice
still has way more chops than personality, but the songs are getting
personality. I hope Katharine McPhee is taking notes.

CHUCK:
"Since I Fell For You" by Charlie Rich on now: soul music. Third to last track on new two-CD *Essential* set, which is the best album I've heard in 2007 by far if reissues count. This is going to sound completely nuts, but I actually think the opener "Lonely Weekends" is one of my *least* favorite songs on this thing; it's totally great, but strikes me (is this idiotic?) as a fairly blatant Elvis rip, where Charlie doesn't really seem to develop his own real vocal personality until a few songs in. I guess what I'm saying is that, judging from this collection, I prefer him doing soul, blues, jazz (even "Pictures and Paintings," on now, which people on the ILM thread seemed to have mixed feelings about), countrypolitan, maybe even gospel, than rockabilly. In general anyway. Or maybe I just like him doing grown-up music more than teen music. Not that "Lonely Weekends" is (obviously) necessarily a teen song. Anyway, I could go on and on. Didn't notice til today that "I Washed My Hands in Muddy Water" is about breaking out of prison. Wonder what is wrong with Charlie's baby (and in turn Charlie) in "When Something's Is Wrong With My Baby" (am I confusing things, or did Marsh or Marcus or somebody say this was a sexual dysfunction song once? Could be.) Wonder if anybody put "River, Stay Away From My Door" on any Katrina playlists. Wonder if there are countrypolitan-hating purists stupid enough to hate "Behind Closed Doors" and "The Most Beautiful Girl." Etc. But the song that really gave me a quiet storm's worth of chills today was "Nice 'N' Easy." which I seemed to recall somewhere deep in my subconscious hearing ages ago, but I'm not sure where (okay, it was on a Charlie CD than Edd burned for me last year, but why do I feel it was something more than that? Like I heard it as a kid or something? Whitburn tells me it did not cross over pop.) Anyway, even more than lots of stuff here, it is what Alan Jackson and Toby Keith want to be, I think.

Speaking of Toby, picked up his 1997 *Dream Walkin'* at Princeton Record Exchange yesterday (along with a bunch of other other $2 to $4 country CDs from the '90s or early '00s: *The Tractors* self-titled [somebody compared them to Big N Rich on ILM a couple years ago, but the stuff I've heard on line is just passing sub-boogie, but who knows], *Coyote Ugly* soundtrack, *Rebecca Lynn Howard* self-titled, Tim McGraw *All I Want* and *Not A Moment Too Soon*). Toby's the only one I've gotten to so far; did anybody know that he did a duet with STING once? Divorce ballad with slight Police-reggae lilt parts called "I'm So Happy I Can't Stop Crying"; not bad. Most of the cuts I liked more than that ("Jacky Don Tucker" about a wild melon-stealin cop-a-feelin' uncle, "She Ran Away With A Rodeo Clown" [we also watched "freestyle bullfighting" out of Cheyenne, Wyoming. last night on TV -- it's fun and the bull doesn't get hurt!), "I Don't Understand My Girlfriend") is upbeat with a sense of humor. Also like "Dream Walkin',", and the uncharacteristically spare and forlorn "Tired," about how life winds up being a drag when, unlike Jacky Don Tucker," you *do* follow all the rules. Way better album than I'd have guessed -- I need to catch up on the rest of his early albums. (Oh yeah, also picked up some $1 vinyl, including best-ofs by Bobby Bare and Crash Craddock -- the latter of whom I'm not sure I've ever heard before -- plus the Jean Knight album with her version of "My Toot Toot" and the Henry Gross album with "Shannon," a hit about his dog dying.)

Also decided I liked Charlie Rich's rockabilly way better than the Detroit Cobras', rockabilly despite raving about the latter yesterday morning. Played all the way through, their new album is sounding thin to me, just like most of their previous ones, as I said. But I'll try more. I'm not sure why I keep hitting a wall with them.

Two other quick things: Frank wondered where Waite's/Krauss's "Missing You 2007" was in Billboard; it's #34 on the country chart, as it turns out. More curious is Big N Rich's "Lost In This Moment" at #41 -- curious because I don't *think* I've heard it (new album due May-ish, apparently), unless it's the song called "Caught Up In The Moment" from their previous album with just a slightly different name.

CHUCK:
Ha ha, the Aguilera lyrics below remind me of Toy Box and Aqua at the same time. (Frank's description does make me want to hear the song, though.)

Tractors' "Fallin' Apart": Okay, unison harmonies; sad sack sense of humor. So I do see a slight Big N Rich connection there. But only a connection to one *facet* of Big N Rich. (Or two.) (Ditto Drakkar Sauna. Who are growing on me. When I like them they remind me of the Holy Modal Rounders. Though I wish they reminded me of Holy Modal Rounders more, and more often. Lalena keeps pronouncing their name "Drunk In A Sauna," for some reason.)

New Detroit Cobras album by the way has plenty of *good* songs ("Leave My Kitten Alone," which has very cool meows; "Green Light," which is good in part because all red light green light TNT songs are good.) But something is missing.

*Coyote Ugly* soundtrack features, in addition to plenty of dancey Leann Rimes apparently, EMF and Snap and "I Need You Tonight* by INXS. The latter funks like "Shakedown Street" by the Grateful Dead or, best version, "Nighttime In The Switching Yard" by Warren Zevon. Which I just realized last week is a train song than sounds like a train, duh; why did that take me three decades to figure out?
(His live *Stand In The Fire* reissue in the CD changer now, by the way. Reminds me that "Play It All Night Long" may well be the best Drive By Truckers song of all time, and Zevon did it a couple decades before the Truckers even existed.)

ROY:
Is this Charlie Rich Essential different from the 2 disc on
Columbia/Legacy: Feel Like Going Home which came out in 97? Amazon and
Allmusic don't list any new Essentials...
Also, you're not completely nuts about "Lonely Weekend" sounding like
Elvis; he was tagged with the Elvis soundalike thing for a very little
while. Didn't take long to leave that in the dust. You gotta get the
Complete Smash Sessions, which documents how he did that most
awesomely.

I love the Sherrill stuff. But you don't have to be a purist to hate
"Behind Closed Doors." Just ask Edd. :)

DON:
Yeah, Toby complained later that the label made him record "a sucky
song"
with Sting, but I thought it was a good track. (Sting kind of stretched
his
thinner voice around Toby's sensitve brawn, which was wise.) As did all
of his
early albums, back to the first, though I haven't listened to 'em in a
while. He
sure did jump from label to label, but it all worked out pretty well,
from this
listener's point of ear, anyway.


CHUCK:
And yes, Black Angel >>> Black Angels. The former are indeed Stones-country, as I said, 90 percent of the time; besides "One Beer," my favorite songs on their newest album (apparently they have three; haven't heard the other two) are probably "O'California," "Shadows," "Soldier Boy, Soldier Girl," "American Wedding," maybe "Goodby Angelina" (about Jolie maybe), maybe "Betty's Farm." As for Black Angels, "Black Grease" is just about as good as they get, either that or "The First Vietnamese War," both from their debut EP; their full-length followup (which I probably talked briefly about on rolling metal last year) was too much of a merely okay thing. Saw them live last year; they were fine. I'd classify them with the Raveonettes in the post-Jesus and Mary Chain sweepstakes; a vaguely interesting drone-rock-pop sound; not very many real songs., Or something. And yes, Def Lep glam it up way better; no comparison.

Tractors seem to be primarly a post-Western-Swing/proto-rockabilly country boogie band transposed briefly to the country charts in 1994. They seem good-spirited in an NRBQ way. Somewhat an anamoly if they got much radio play at the time,, but not as tough as the Kentucky Headhunters, who were more or less the same era. But I like them. Last cut on their album, "Tulsa Shuffle (Revisited)," is dance-remixed Western Swing with party voices in the background.

Speaking of Black Angels, their label, Light In The Attic Records, is reissuing the two '70s albums by Betty Davis, who was married to Miles and dated Hendrix, at least as the legend goes. The label sent me an advance, promo CD that combines both albums, though they're actually being released separatelty. Most of what I wrote in *Stairway To Hell* about the marginally better of the two, *They Say I'm Different,* (which coincidentally is the only one of the two I *don't* own on vinyl now) still stands: She has way too thin a voice, can't carry a melody to save her life, and the songs mostly lack hooks, but when she just the rides the groove, she can be really good, and in songs like "Come Take Me" and "Don't Call Her No Tramp" the groove can get fairly monstrous, almost in a Jimmy Castor Bunch funk-metal way. On the other hand, white rock bands from Nazareth to Foghat to Black Oak Arkansas rocked funkier at the time, in part because they were way catchier and had way stronger singers, so big, deal, right? Though sometimes her big-afro attitude help, too, of course, though not nearly as much as people who wind up reviewing the reissues will pretend, I bet. Funniest song: Still "He Was a Big Freak," where she whips the guy with a turquoise chain. "Steppin In Her I. Miller Shoes" is both a great title and a good track. "If I'm In Luck I Might Get Picked Up" and "Game Is My Middle Name" and "Shoo-B-Doop and Cop Him" are not as good as their titles. but a few other cuts come close maybe.


EDD:
actually I don't hate "Behind." it's a deserving hit--it's the other
Sherrill stuff on the albums I don't much like. Charlie sings well,
altho
sometimes he sounds depressed, and Sherrill's overkill just isn't my
thing.

CHUCK:

Maylene and the Sons of Disaster: Good rustic thrash playing with plenty of boogiefied groove in it; invariably hard-to-take sore-throat yelling that at its *most* tolerable sounds like Alice in Chains or somebody, which means still pretty shitty (and kind of emo, even). More often the vocals are just ugly, which is a shame, since supposedly the album is a concept album about "the true tales of 1920s gangster Ma Barker and her prohibition era real-life crime family," not that you can tell, and sadly they don't cover "Ma Baker" by Boney M either. They list Willie Nelson among their influences, which is not remotely audible, but the Skynyrd influence might not be total bullshit (or at least less bullshit than in the case of Clutch, Pantera, Corrosion of Conformity, etc.), at least as far as the rhythm is concerned. Best track by far is a reasonably lovely guitar blues tapestry instrumental called "The Day Hell Broke Loose At Sicard Hollow." But Wino Weinrich's new band Hidden Hand does this backwoods kind of legend-of-wooley-swamp metal stuff a lot better on their new album, and Wino has a voice.
Flying Eyes from Maryland call themselves "pyschodelic-blooze-rock" at CDbaby; list Pink Floyd, Hendrix, Cream, Doors, Dead Meadow, Radiohead, among their influences, but none of those let you know that Allison Weiner is actually a real good lady singer (from another room, Lalena was liking it and asked if it was a country record); actually, I hear more Grace Slick or Jenny Haan from Babe Ruth or whoever sang for Curved Air (who, okay, I barely remember) in the vocals, or even the Gathering with the goth and metal taken out. Lots of beautiful psychedelic guitar solos, especially in "Song For Empy Rooms," and "Dreaming Eyes Awake," which I think is the best track on their myspace page. My other favorites are "Devastating Fire," which has an extended wah-wah solo coming out of some punchy, sinewy hard rock with real gravity to it, and "Caravan," which progresses from space rock to hippie jazz fusion with non-gloomy words trying to come to terms with dying (or something like that) ,"Also in "Our Blues" a Humvee eats somebody's family, which is not humorless. And the thing about all the solos is that Allison's singing lets them emerge naturally from songs; they don't just stand there and pointlessly noodle into the empty sky.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/theflyingeyes

CHUCK:
So yeah, I count five or six good songs out of 11 on the Pam Tillis CD, a pretty decent batting average -- "Band In the Window" (featuring a gal with '80s hair), "Train Without a Whistle," the John Anderson duet (which seems to be about a couple getting older who may or may not have stopped being a couple along the way as the countryside turned more citylike), "Crazy By Myself" (swings!), "Bettin' Money On Love" (probably my favorite -- a funny football-widow song, as talked as it is sung), maybe "That Was a Heartache" (which is the Robison song). So yup, good album after all, though I'm not sure what 1974 country-rock y'all think it sounds like -- Ronstadt? Or who? Not much rock in at all, near as I can hear. (Playing Rebecca Lynn Howard's 2000 bubble-country debut-I-assume now, and "When My Dreams Come True" feels more rock than anything on the Tillis, easy.)

John Waite album sounds like if Keith Urban liked Johnny Thunders, I decided. (JW even hears JT's "You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory" on the radio in "Downtown"!)..well, *solo* Thunders. I prefer the Heartbreakers, but I'm not complaining. (Also, Urban and Thunders might even have certain addictions in common.) High point of "New York City Girl": guitar solo. High point of "St. Patrick's Day": When you can hear the marching band drums in the background.

The Tractors can be too kitschy cornball for their own good, but they have some good jokes, too -- So far my favorite is when they start their cover of Chuck Berry's great "Thirty Days" by aping the acapella part of Humble Pie's "Thirty Days In the Hole," get it? And I think I sort of hated "My Baby Likes To Rock It" ("like a boogie woogie choo choo train," gawd) on CMT at the time, but now I like how it kinda sounds like "Sea Cruise" by Frankie Ford. They do New Orleans rhythm pretty well in general. And they have famous friends -- guest spots on the (I assume debut) album from Leon Russell, JJ Cale, Bonnie Raitt, James Burton. What the hell? (Unchecked theory: Are they studio hands who started a country band, to play bars and climb on the charts? That'd explain it.)

EDD:
I hear some GP and Grievous Angel in (Pam Tillis' Rhinestoned): , was what I was thinking of.

So, I keep playing the Dale Watson record. Sort of addicted to "Time Without You" and the amazing "You Always Get What You Always Got" (friend who is deep into AA confirms that this song would go over bigtime at meetings, and says Dale has obviously been thru some shit and come out the other side with help from various Higher Powers and so forth).

"Hollywood Hillbilly" is a bit obvious, or weak--who's it about, Dwight Yoakam? The way this record's played really shows how country of the outlaw kind derives from rockabilly, I mean the chicka-boom here, and the really great way Watson's band gets the two-stepping thing down. To me, this record is a combination of Waylonisms (and late-'60s Cash on the Barrelhead) and the Bakersfield thing, which seems just post-Beatles to me somehow. Was the Bakersfield sound in the '60s a conscious response to the British Invasion?

ROY:
At some point, yeah, but initially it was the other way around. The
Beatles were huge fans of Buck ("Act Naturally" obv) as he was of them.
But he and Don Rich had pretty much gone all electric and established
the classic Bakersfield sound before the invasion

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 February 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

New country albums in my changer now: Lantana (three Shania Twains in one band! sort of! okay not as good at that but still! plus they cover '70s REO Speedwagon!*); John Prine "& Mac Wiseman (okay, I guess I'd like just about anybody singing "Old Dogs, Children and Watermelon Wine" and "Saginaw, Michigan" and "Pistol Packin' Mama," and these old geezers sing them real purty I suppose, but most of the other songs aren't that good and even the ones I love don't make this any less pointless I don't think); Little Rachel With the Lazy Jumpers (more rockabilly than jump blues no matter what her cdbaby page implies and just as pointless as the Prine-plus-pal platter no doubt but at least her leopard skin top is more fun to look at, plus "bull ridin' mama" is dirtier than anything on the prine album I think):

http://cdbaby.com/cd/littlerachelcd

* favorite songs so far: "no tresspassin," "ride 'em cowboy." followed by "country as a city girl can be," "what turns me on." best title on the album, easy: "the juice ain't worth the squeeze," hey tell that to robert plant!

http://cdbaby.com/cd/lantanamusic

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 February 2007 02:05 (eighteen years ago)

So do links no longer work here anymore, or what? wtf?

And okay, Little Rachel's bullridin' song is jump blues, I guess.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 February 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

I just found this forum by accident trying to find Fred Neil songs - this is a goldmine! I'm happy!!!

roger whitaker, Thursday, 22 February 2007 02:21 (eighteen years ago)

I think you have to bracket your links now. Check formatting help at bottom of screen.

Glad RC 2007 is back. Tonight I'm listening to the new Two Cow Garage CD; a Springsteen move that I like, less because of the keybs, and more for the songwriting. Guitars still loud. I do plan to write something about the new Pam Tillis, which is the best country album I've heard this year.

Roy Kasten, Thursday, 22 February 2007 02:38 (eighteen years ago)

Er, okay, I was probably wrong about Little Rachel, who turns out to be at least as jump blues as she is rockabilly, if not more so. Today I'm for some reason convinced that (at least for the duration of "It's Always A Blonde" and "Bartender Baby" and "Panic Attack") she is considerably more engaging and less offensive than, um, Cherry Poppin Daddies or the Royal Crown Revue (neither of whom I hated as much as most people do) were, but I can't guarantee that opinion will last very long. So caveat emptor.

Meanwhile, on a related topic, "Candyman" by Christina Aguilera (which I have only so far heard in its Ellen Degeneres show performance on youtube version) reminded me right away of Dr. Buzzard's Original Savanah Band at least as much as it reminded me of Madonna circa Dick Tracy (wasn't that when she did her swing-band move?) I like the song, either way. Though probably not as much as most of Cory Daye's Cory And Me album.

Progressing back from jump blues to country boogie (which were always related, obviously) the Tractors turned out to have a commendable populist streak ("The Little Man," "The Blue Collar Rock," "Badly Bent" which is about not quite being broke but being very close) I didn't notice right away.

Rebbeca Lynn Howard's aforementioned 2000 debut-ish thing is, not surprisingly, best at its most bubblegum -- namely "When My Dreams Come True" and the erotically oohed and aahed "Heartsounds," plus the blatant Juice Newton poppabilly of "Tennesee In My Windshield." Most if not all of the rest of the album is slower, however, and is merely okay, though pretty.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 February 2007 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

I think you have to bracket your links now. Check formatting help at bottom of screen

I see "hyperlink" instructions, but no just plain regular link instructions.

But nope, I will not complain about how damnedably unreadable and user-unfriendly this board has become. That would be unseemly. Though I do have a headache, regardless.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 February 2007 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

I couldn't get it to work when I first tried it on the SXSW thread, but if you ignore "My Link Title" in the formatting instructions, you can make links:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/lantanamusic

Roy Kasten, Thursday, 22 February 2007 04:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://cdbaby.com/cd/littlerachelcd

cool! assuming this works.

and i am sitll liking little rachel despite my reservations about such retrofied stuff. she has a voice! and hooks, and bawdy words. and gurls singing such stuff is almost always by definition more fun than if boys were singing it.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:06 (eighteen years ago)

oops i mean:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/littlerachelcd

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

Miranda Lambert's "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend." Like her voice--she really sounds like the manager of the Fresh Foods section of the Dollar General store, and the backing seems about perfect for it. Like the one about being stuck in a dry town without a beer, and she seems sensible, maybe even essentially secular in some ways on the waltz "Love Letters." And I find it cool that the coolest song, aesthetically, on the record is called "Desperation," which advises "there's danger in frustration." She just seems like a total natural to me, which means I'm probably being fooled. Doesn't seem frustrated in the least, buy this woman a six-pack and the most she'll allow is that it's "Guilty in Here," but wonders "is it just me," since she apparently just wants to get out and have a good time in a world where the old 'uns all have a wedding ring and the young ones are just too dumb. She ain't crazy, needs to find a new and better club that suits her really fucking snazzy beats and great bridge on "Guilty in Here," perhaps move out west and make really good sandwiches in a nice, clean health-food joint in a resort town, and keep on shaking it. Fine record.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Charlie doesn't really seem to develop his own real vocal personality until a few songs in. I guess what I'm saying is that, judging from this collection, I prefer him doing soul, blues, jazz (even "Pictures and Paintings," on now, which people on the ILM thread seemed to have mixed feelings about), countrypolitan, maybe even gospel, than rockabilly. In general anyway

to get a full appreciation of charlie rich's rockabilly years, i highly recommend the 2-LP set original hits and midnight demos. not sure if it ever came out on cd or not. but it's loaded with early nuggets demonstrating that he had has his own thing going on even when he was in full-on elvis sun records mode.

fact checking cuz, sort of, Friday, 23 February 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, some updated thoughts on sundry stuff:

Little Rachel: Her retro-kitsch meter (including for "Bartender Baby," one of the songs I'd thought I was liking) is starting to inch, maybe inevitably, into the red. I think I will put her CD on the bench for a bit then get back to it.

Lantana: Not as consistently poppy and boppy as I'd hoped (or as their Shania Twain Times Three looks would suggest), but they definitely have their moments. The REO Speedwagon cover is fun. More interesting, though, might be their ability (in "Ride 'Em Cowboy" for instance oddly enough) (Save a horse ride a cowgirl?) to incorporate (often downbeat even) blues sounds without signifying remotely as "rootsy" or "retro". In fact their bluesier numbers frequently seem to be some of their best songs. Hmm...

Sunny Sweeny: Just got this. First impression is that she's got good melodies and some good specifics in her lyrics (right now she's busted down in Lufkin, wherever that is, and her baby is waking up in Morgan City, wherever that is, and I probably got the names of the towns wrong, and she's heading out to Abeline etc etc), but her voice might be a little too small and squeaky a bit too often. Though not in the Lufkin Morgan City Abeline song come to think of it (which would be "East Texas Pines.") Also not in her good cover of the great "16th Avenue," previously associated (at least to me) with the still-underrated (and never small and squeaky) Lacy J Dalton.

Renegade Rail: Another cdbaby band (link below), blistering Missouri hard rock country. Maybe even blistering grunge country -- "Need For Speed" makes a riff similar to "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (i.e., feels more like Nirvana than like the Kingsmen or Boston or Sisters of Mercy to me) swing; vocal chorus in "Crazy" seems to possibly owe its grunty technique to Alice in Chains or Temple of the Dog or somebody, though I can't think of any Alice or Temple songs I like this much. So far I'm thinking: great guitar player, great rhythm section, passable singer. Who has yet to get in the way.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/renegaderail3

xhuxk, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

oops, I will get used to this eventually I promise. (I'm adaptable!)

http://cdbaby.com/cd/renegaderail3

xhuxk, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

Renegade Rail's "Evening News" (sad lovely Southern Rock, closer to Marshall Tucker than to grunge) is intriguing: Seems to be maybe pro Iraq war, sung from the point of view of a soldier who's been overseas two years and is counting his "five days and a wakeup" (that's real Army short-timer talk! I remember!) til rotating back to the States (must've been written before tours of duty were extended?), and how the TV news never notes that they're doing a good job over there. "We fought the fight, we're almost done" seems somewhat deluded, to say the least. "We made the good guys free and the bad guys turn and run" also. But I like the mood of the song, and how it's probably better than Husker Du's "Turn on the News," and how the line "without my soldiers angels we're all done" reminds me of Beyonce'. (Also, it never mentions Iraq, so why should I read that into it? Hard not to.)

xhuxk, Friday, 23 February 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

A couple final notes about 2000's Rebecca Lynn Howard (most of the copyrights on which are 1997 or 1998, I now notice -- maybe it took the CD a while to hit the streets?): I also like "You're Real," pop-country r&b with Motown bassline and smooth-jazz sax parts and " Move Me," fun big-voiced Urban Cowboy-style country pop about looking for a guy in blue jeans. Also, one of the bubblecountry tracks raved about above, "When My Dreams True," turns out to have a light but undenaible funk lilt to it. Lyric that kinda creeps me out: "Jesus, Daddy and You," about three kinds of love.

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 February 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Little Rachel ...is considerably more engaging and less offensive than, um, Cherry Poppin Daddies ... Meanwhile, on a related topic, "Candyman" by Christina Aguilera...

...turns out to be the song that mentions cherries poppin'. Decided I like it about equally with "Girlfriend" by Avril Lavigne, and more than "Bird Flu" by M.I.A. But it's more Bette Midler doing "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy" than Dr. Buzzard doing "Cherchez La Femme," I think. Which is to say: Not all that far from Little Rachel after all. Best thing about Christina's song is the "sippin on a bottle of vodka double wine" chant done by the soldiers in the video at the beginning and in the middle; they've got more punch than she does (which is not to suggest she's punchless.) Avril's song meanwhile is hey hey you you get off of my cloud get into my car Mickey you're so fine you blow my mind hey Mickey, but not nearly as good as that implies, and not as good as most of the songs on Skye Sweetnam's debut album, either. (Not that this has anything to do with country, I guess.) M.I.A.'s song is...a confusing mess. I dunno, maybe I need to hear it more. As of now, I'd say it doesn't rank with her best stuff. I guess I'd prefer if had more of a tune to it.

Back in country country, Sunny Sweeney's album is growing on me quickly, and though I have reservations about her little girl voice, it's bigger than I'd thought. "Next Big Nothing" is funny. Lacy J Dalton cover is really great.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 February 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

(Though to the Christina song's credit, its sound does seem to open up beyond retro kitsch as the song progresses. So yeah, it's better than Avril's, I guess. Which is probably the most reigned in of the three. M.I.A.'s song hits me as art grandstanding, basically. Albeit art grandstanding bombarding you with beats, which counts for a lot, obviously. I do like it, just don't love it. Though I can imagine I might if it catches me by surprise in some public setting.) (And yeah, this all belongs on the teenpop thread. But I lost that thread's plot ages ago, and every time I try to catch up, it loses me again.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 February 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

So anyway, has anybody heard Toby Keith's "High Maintenance Woman" yet? I'm not finding it on cmt.com, and the live performance from the Dunkin Donuts Center (!?) on youtube is inaudible. Very promising title, though!

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 February 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

Can't contribute to the country musings herein, and should probably just stay off this altogether (and WILL stay out of it after this, promise), but I feel like saying something about the Aguilera/M.I.A./Avril records Chuck discusses above (in part because I'm trying to properly "review" them and am struggling). "Candyman" is the sort of song I feel I should hate on principal, but in fact, I do like it. It's the first thing I've even been able to listen to by her since "Genie in a Bottle," probably because it does remind me so much of Bette's version of "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy" (with funnier words), and I guess because, similarly, it sounds like a glam-by-assocation kind of song (though I guess you'd have to say glam-twice-removed-by-association) in that Midler made the Andrews Sisters seem like glam icons (Roxy Music's backup singers even dressed like them). It was like boogie woogie (as a sub-genre, I mean) very briefly became one of glam rock's many sideshow attractions, similar to how Cabaret made the Weimar Republic seem totally glam. (This would probably be a good place also to say something about Mika's "Grace Kelly" and the Killers's "Read My Mind," which fall into yet other wings of glitter rock--not to mention Fergie's wonderful "Glamorous"--but I digress). Like Chuck, I thought the M.I.A. was a complete mess at first, didn't hear any melody, etc., but now it's totally working for me. Chuck says, "Though I can imagine I might if it catches me by surprise in some public setting." This happened for me, sort of--the video actually provided that context in a way (not quite the same as hearing it outdoors amongst real people, granted), and it warmed me up to the song a lot. Not only is there almost no melody, there's also no chorus--it's a pretty outrageous song, all beats and artillery and bird sqwawks. I'm coming around to the Avril song, too, but don't have much to say about it--I think i just really like the delays on her voice in the chorus, and I imagine it'll be a pretty huge wedding anthem this year, and for me that's a very good thing.

(Sorry to butt in. Back to the country talk, which I enjoy reading btw, not that I'm even remotely successful at keeping up with it all.)

sw00ds, Sunday, 25 February 2007 06:09 (eighteen years ago)

It's the first thing I've even been able to listen to by her since "Genie in a Bottle,"

Me too! I liked "Ain't No Other Man" or whatever it was called last year "in theory" (i.e., the beats) (i.e., I totally understood why other people liked it), but really could've taken or leaven it myself. Didn't get "Beautiful" at all.

Avril's bleacher beats sound more glam to me than Christina's bugles though.

Now if somebody could hijack this thread back for country, that'd be great. (Which reminds me: Where are Don, Edd, Matt, Andrew, etc. this week?)

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 February 2007 09:35 (eighteen years ago)

So anyway, has anybody heard Toby Keith's "High Maintenance Woman" yet?

it's billy joel's "uptown girl"! as sung by dwight yoakam!

it's good, not great, on first listen. then again, inasmuch as he's probably human, there was no way he was going to follow up white trash with money with anything but a disappointment. and it's not a crushing disappointment at all. it rocks and it's catchy. it's just a bit by-the-numbers and ordinary.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 25 February 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

by "ordinary," i mean (a) as plumbing-as-sex-metaphor songs go, you've heard it a thousand times before and you know exactly where it's going, and (b) it's missing some of the ambition of the arrangements of both the rockers and ballads on white trash.

but it's a good country-rock song.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 25 February 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, FCC. And so, speaking (in most cases) of "just a bit by-the-numbers", here are some album-tracks-that-sound-like-album tracks that have inexplicably (for the most part) hit the country chart as singles in recent weeks, and the order in which I like them (I just re-listened to them all):

1. Montgomery Gentry – “Lucky Man”
2. Eric Church – “Guys Like Me”*
3. Little Big Town - “A Little More You”**
4. Taylor Swift – “Teardrops On My Guitar”
5. Kellie Pickler – “I Wonder”***
6. Alan Jackson – “A Woman’s Love”

* - this would actually be better if it weren't for the sappy stuff about rich girls like you who like poor guys like eric (speaking of "uptown girl').
** - sleazy porn-photographer subtext with this one, I'm now noticing.
*** - thought this was about her dad; apparently its her mom instead

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 February 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

(Mom-who-abandoned-her, in the Pickler song's case. I think. In the youtube clip from The View, she can't make it through the song without crying.)

(And no, the Little Big Town song does not hold a candle to Andrea True Connection's "More More More," Van Morrison's "Blue Money," or the Fabulous Poodles' "Tit Photographer Blues." But I still like it pretty well.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 February 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

I'm here...I'm here. They axed me to re-register, so that's me, "whisperin' edd." my tribute to bill anderson. wonder if anyone else has heard the miranda lambert, which I really like. just got something new by martina mcbride but haven't had the heart to play it yet. and the new nashville-recorded jorma kaukonen record, stars in my crown is nice, the old jefferson tuna picker can't sing a lick but sure plays nice, does a good original called "fur piece rag" on which he doesn't sing, and does all right by rev. gary davis.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 25 February 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

6. Alan Jackson – “A Woman’s Love”

Also, I just wanna say that it was boring-assed generica like this (mostly on the second half of the record) that made me underrate AJ's album last year.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 February 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Haven't heard the Miranda; is there somebody I can ask me to send me one? And yeah, Martina McBride came yesterday, and I haven't worked up the nerve to put it on, either. (I didn't like her covers album at all, for one thing.)

More highlights of Renegade Rail's album: "Just You and Me," marriage song, apparently the "single" (by Frank Kogan's reasonable definition) since it's first on their myspace page -- melody swiped from "Let Your Love Flow" by Bellamy Brothers; "If This Ain't Texas" chunky fuzzy riff at start swiped from "Money For Nothing" by Dire Straits (still the best thing about that still-annoying song); "Time Machine," Commander Cody/CDB-style talking blues about going back in time to hang with Marilyn Monroe and Jesse James and Johnny Cash and Ronnie Van Zant and get high with Jimi Hendrix; "Moonshine," tough Southern rock about what its title says; "Fat Girls and Weed," both of which they are in favor of (the latter in other less woozy songs too), and unlike Toby they're not a wingman taking one for the team; "Red Dirt," funky Skynyrd-woogie rock about going town to town on the road where "you won't hear no Mr. Mom, or songs about buying shoes" (the former clearly a Lonestar swipe, right? not sure if the shoe-buying line is aimed at Kellie Pickler or who, however); "Not Here For a Long Time," more good outlaw country-rock with excellent guitar parts. Like I said, Mike Munsterman's voice is just average, but I still like this album a whole lot.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 February 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

More Lantana highlights, often complete with high-maintenance-woman personality: "Country As a City Girl Could Be", she watches "Hee Haw" (do reruns even exist anymore?) on her satellite TV and drawls in French and teaches her friends how to honky-tonk ballet, cute though the music in this particular cut could afford to be cuter; "I Ain't Your Jailer," interesting denial-of-roleplay title, basically don't blame the gal singing if you feel tied down, buster; "Everything," high-maintenance (or not?) Shania rip where they've got simple needs but if you wanna buy them a brand-new house they won't complain; "You Know How It Is," one of my favorites, a more blatant Shania rip with powerchords topped by a unison shouting chorus that almost reminds of "Tubthumping," I swear; "Savin' It Up For Saturday Night" working-for-the-weekend two-step dance country with slight cajun undercurrent maybe; "What Turns Me On," starts with a really tough Muddy Waters style blues riff then turns into the best faux-Shania on the album, about a perfect guy who's "a marathon shopper/A coffee bar hopper/he can sit through the ballet or even the opera...Put the toilet seat downer/Serve supper, do the dishes even clean the kitchen up/He can't do enough" then back and forth between Shania-pop mode and blues-mama mode; "Feel Like Rockin' Tonight," blatant hair-metal glam-pop move with a party going on in the background. Plus lots of attractive photos to look at on the CD cover.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 February 2007 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

So I'm watching this Dixie Dregs Live At Montreux 1978 DVD that came in the mail this week (I'll be surprised if I actualy get through the thing --music DVDs are hard to get through in general, especially the live ones; what the hell are they for, anyway? and they make even less sense in the age of youtube than they did before), and the bald bassist (I guess -- they never shine the camera on him when the music's going) with the beard, whoever he is, just introduced a song called "Patchwork" as "avant-garde country music, something that's unique to us." Sound like, um....bluegrass jazz fusion, I guess. So how unique was it, Don or Matt or somebody? And in this band, is that a fiddle or a violin? And who was their audience? (The well-behaved audience on the DVD, older than I would've guessed inasmuch as its been shown, may well be more a Montreux audience than a Dregs audience, but what do I know? Did these guys reach Southern rock fans? Or were they more likely to hit prog fans?) (Which intersects at...Kansas fans?) (Next song, bald dude introduces as "a couple old country melodies that we stuck together to give the guys something to jam on." Sounded like he said it was called "The Wabash," but the DVD cover just calls it "The Bash" instead.)

xhuxk, Monday, 26 February 2007 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

right now she's busted down in Lufkin, wherever that is

Uh, in the Piney Woods, duh. Which explains the song title being "East Texas Pines." Seeing how I was just IN Lufkin the week after Xmas (true story -- Lalena's got family down there; we went four-wheeling and thrift-shopping), you'd think I'd have remembered it when Sunny Sweeney sang it.

xhuxk, Monday, 26 February 2007 00:52 (eighteen years ago)

Next to the Piney Woods one and the Lacy J one, my favorite on Sunny's album (which comes out March 6 on Big Machine, apparently, though its self-release has apparently been on cdbaby since at least late last year) is probably the auctioneer-tempoed fast-talk hoedown "If I Could." I also like "Slow Swinging Western Tunes" (especially the lovely instrumental jam at the end), and the Iris Dement cover "Mama's Opry" has enough lyric details to make me kind of understand for the first time why so many people like Iris Dement (who I don't remember ever having Sunny's energy, though this is not one of Sunny's more energetic songs, and I'm not going to pretend I've ever tried all that hard with Iris). "Here Lately" is nice too. "Next Big Nothing" and "Heartbreakers Hall of Fame" are okay, but somehow wear their cutesy classicist country cleverness on their sleeves too much not to grate on me. Worst song may well be the Jim Lauderdale duet.

xhuxk, Monday, 26 February 2007 01:18 (eighteen years ago)

let's see, the Dixie Dregs. They were plenty popular down south when I was growing up, Chuck. I suppose they were unique, I believe you mention Kansas and I know I had albums by both groups. I knew plenty of people around here, southern dope-smokers into bluegrass and so forth, who loved the Dregs. And David Grisman. But what was the first hip southern-fried instrumental post-fusion group, marketed as a group? Because I'm tellin' ya, Buddy Emmons on his solo shit from around '70 where he jazzes it up, that's certainly much the same thing. You had Barefoot Jerry, and Charlie Daniels was thought to be somewhat "jazzy" and "progressive" because he had those fiddle-guitar interlude things (again, the Kansas comparison is apposite), plus people knew he had played with Dylan so he was a dope-smoker. That Crazy Backwards Alphabet Soup or whatever that record is, with those former Beefheart musicians, the one where they cover Z.Z Top, is the spiritual descendant of the Dregs' efforts. And yeah, CMT or someone apparently still runs Hee-Haw reruns.
xp

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Did these guys reach Southern rock fans? Or were they more likely to hit prog fans?) (Which intersects at...Kansas fans?)

that intersection was literal, as dixie dregs guitarist steve morse joined kansas in the '80s. (or is that what you were saying?)

fact checking cuz, Monday, 26 February 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I thought I remembered that about Steve Morse. and now I remember another kind of similar group--Sea Level. but they were more about piano, right, sort of Charlie McCoy Tyner shit I think. And the Allman Brothers' instrumental on "Eat a Peach," the side w/o Duane, was also "fusion." They weren't strictly from the south but Little Feat did a cool instrumental on Time Loves a Hero, "Day at the Dog Races" I think it was. I don't own those original Charlie Daniels records--did he do instrumentals? And then there was Area Code 615, too. Clarence White tripping out on "Ode to Billie Joe" is cool, too. What other southern-fried boogie instrumentals from the '70s and early '80s are there, there have to be more.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 26 February 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

New Martina McBride, which I'm trying to digest in small doses, appears to have at least a couple commendably detailed story songs ("Beautiful Again," about a girl I think; "Love Land," about a lady I think) with a likeably spare piano-based sound that's not hitting me as particularly "country." In the background, they sounded sweet, catchy, not off-puttingly timid. Not sure if I'll like them more or less when I pay more attention to the actual words...

xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

Charlie Daniels was thought to be somewhat "jazzy"

Well, isn't it "The South's Gonna Do It Again" that has sections that sound exactly like Glenn Miller?

And then there was Area Code 615,

I know nothing about these guys except for "Fox Chase," which a popular sample on some old-school rap records*. Were they otherwise any good?

* =

http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=area+code+615&type=0

xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 12:32 (eighteen years ago)

btw, song I still love on Little Rachel's album: "Panic Attack," appropriately crazed-sounding wild-dame rockabilly with Jerry Lee boogie piano, Little Richard screams, Hasil Adkins cigar-box guitar clank, and funny words.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

...or a funny title, anyway. As Tony Soprano could surely tell you, there are not nearly enough songs about panic attacks in the world. And I'm realizing that one thing that sets Little Rachel apart from the Cherry Poppin' Royal Crown Big Daddy Voodoo Nut Zippers (or even from Hot Club Of Cowtown, who I always wanted to like but who let's face it sound way too polite and reserved for their own Western swing good, even when covering Aerosmith's great "Chip Away At the Stone" for crissakes), is that I can actually imagine the Gore Gore Girls or Detroit Cobras or Texas Terri liking and identifying with Little Rachel for her big raunchy voice (which is capable of doing the sweet jazzy numbers justice as well. Sounds like she might appreciate Keely Smith or Anita O'Day as much as Big Mama Thornton.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

More flip-flopping on the flat-foot floozy like a floy floy!: Um, not sure what Keely/Anita-style jazz-vocal tracks I was referring to when I made that last post over 12 hours ago (during which time nobody else has posted on this increasingly lonely thread, sigh); going back tonight and listening to Little Rachel's album front to back, closest any cut comes to that is maybe "Talk To Me," and even that one doesn't quite cut it, I don't think. "Broken" and the promsingly titled "I May Be Trouble" sound more like typically who-cares Billie Holiday attempts; "Take This Love and Bury It" more like a typically who-cares finger-snappy torch attempt, though at least that one picks up a little. I don't have any more use for those cuts that I have for Amy Winehouse or k.d. lang, to be honest. And also, to be honest, some of those other retro-swingsters I named had big and maybe even raunchy voices too. Though I don't remember of any of them rocked like "Panic Attack" or "It's Always a Blonde" or the bawdy country boogie of "Bull Ridin' Mama" (or maybe even "Bartender Baby"'s saxes amidst cornball words), which is reason enough for me to keep Rachel's album, if maybe not for you to buy it.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 02:22 (eighteen years ago)

retro-swingsters I named

meaning the Cherry Poppin etc bands, not Little Rachel's other songs

I don't remember of any of them rocked

rocked = rocking

xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, where is everyone on rollin' country '07?? frank and chuck esp. might kinda like sunny sweeney's heartbreaker's hall of fame, as her voice cuts right through, and she might be "stuck in these east texas pines" as she sings on the song of the same name, but seems to me she just about splits the diff between a cartoon voice and a real one, and she sounds as though she might actually even have a sense of humor. I like the way she underplays, and the tracks are standard-issue-plus swingin' honkytonk. really a lot better than I woulda thought. (you mention swingin' country, chuck, and seems like for ex. "next big nothing" [which is kind of like an "act naturally" rewrite] just swings so easy. in a way, this has the tone of that great elizabeth mcqueen pub-rock record of a couple years ago.) and as far as k.d. lang and all that--well, she does have one hell of a big voice. nice mood music. I like to call it all "remedial Billie" (as in Holiday, who's still just unbeatable, so sexy and sneaky). anyway, sunny is maybe my second-fave country record of the moment after dale watson's, and somewhat similar. anyway, also super-cool song selection, like keith sykes' "lavender blue" suits her fine, and she does iris dement's "mama's opry."

anyone heard the new johnny bush record, kashmere gardens mud? john morthand gives a good review in no depression.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

Edd, didn't you see my comments about Sunny Sweeney's CD only a few posts up? I do like the album -- though not the Jim Lauderdale duet so much (dullest track on the record, I think), and I'm mixed on "Next Big Nothing."

Meanwhile: the new Martina McBride is...interesting. More soon, I bet.

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 March 2007 01:35 (eighteen years ago)

I've been off thinking about writing "something I've always wanted to write" and pitching it to the Las Vegas Weekly, and I find myself avoiding working on it and doing time-wasting things instead because, er, maybe I'm bored with ideas of mine that I actually thought up 25 or 35 years ago and what I'm thinking about instead is Bald Britney (in regard to ideas I thought up about 25 or 35 years ago except of course not about Britney and baldness back then) and why Taylor Swift is the best singer in the world right now (which doesn't mean that she does the best music, since of course a lot more goes into that than being a great singer), just that the warm ache in her voice box is just about perfect and "Teardrops On My Guitar" may be my favorite song of hers I'm deciding even though it has a fairly normal country-pop in-one-ear-out-the-other it also has her warmest achingest ache in the verse, starts right off with "Drew says..." and a breath of warm air across her sensitive larynx, though the song seems not a hit type, I'm afraid; the natural hit as in Hit You With Impact would be "Should've Said No," but there's no radio format that it matches up with, I don't think.

Listening right now on AOL Listening Party to a stream of the Pagoda album, which is not country at all, just mentioning it so this thread doesn't feel lonesome. Nice background music (that's not its intention at all; 'tis rock; AOL says "The New York City quartet releases its self-titled debut album of grunge rock led by actor Michael Pitt's Cobain-esque vocals," which does not sound promising until one remembers that Cobain was pretty good, even if the Esques generally aren't). Melodies OK. Probably won't do any followup such as listening a second time, though it might be worth attention. Just didn't feel like listening to what Slim Thug is up to now. Good night.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 08:04 (eighteen years ago)

That's "Drew looks..." not "Drew says..."

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 1 March 2007 08:11 (eighteen years ago)

Interestingly (or probably not), "Teardrops On My Guitar" (which always just hits me as by-the-book confessional shemo-pop), is easily one of my least favorite tracks on Taylor Swift's CD, an album I otherwise like a lot.

Picked up from the free table at work this sampler from Cleopatra Records that takes six songs each from an upcoming covers album called An All-Star Tribute To Lynyrd Skynyrd and an upcoming double-disc compilation called [/i]Southern Outlaws: The Ultimate Southern Rock Collection[/i] (which will apparently also include Steve Earle, Merle Haggard, Drive By Truckers, Kentunky Headhunters, Wet Willie, Ozark Mountain Daredevils, "and more"). Two best tracks far and away on the tribute half of the sampler are the two heaviest -- Pat Travers doing "Gimme Back My Bullets" and Great White doing "Saturday Night Special," both of which I love. Outlaws and Blackfoot's LS covers are completely fogettable; "Free Bird" has boring singing from Charlie Daniels, whose voice appears to be shot, and competent guitars from Molly Hatchet; Atlanta Rhythm Section show off a suprisingly funky rhythm section on "Call Me the Breeze". On the half of the sampler from the compilation, once you get past the givens of Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" and .38 Special's "Hold On Loosely" (which I'm happy to say still totally holds up), the real surprise is the Rossington Collins Band's "Don't Misunderstand Me," with their female singer -- I'd forgotten how great they sound; I've got that album by them on vinyl and should dig it out one of these days. Johnny Van Zant Band and Steve Gaines tracks are okay, I guess; Artimus Pyle track pretty much sucks.

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 March 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

Still really digging the new Miranda Lambert. The last song is by Guy Clark's better half, Susanna Clark, and Emmylou Harris. Real nice. Yeah, I did see yr. Sunny Sweeney comments, Chuck, but I kinda like "Lavender Blue" with Lauderdale. They shoulda gotten her to harmonize with Charlie Louvin on his new record, she's better than Tift Merritt. Had lunch with Geoff Himes at Swett's Tuesday--old-tyme Nashville African-American meat-n-three I hadn't eaten in years, and the fried cornbread was just as good as it ever was. Anyway, he has done a piece on Louvin for somebody or another and his take was that Charlie just can't sing any more, which I don't totally agree with. He sounds like what he is, an 80-year-old man surrounded by some younger people...and George Jones and Bobby Bare, both of whom I could listen to singing the phone book. I think the Louvin record really works, as a folk record, almost like the kids singing along to "The Great Atomic Power" are just at summer camp with Uncle Charlie.

And what about the new Patty Griffin, which has gotten raves? I haven't gotten a copy; can it be as good as, say, Michael McCall says it is?

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 1 March 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Is Griffin really supposed to be any good? I'm pretty sure I got that, no idea where my copy is. Maybe I'll hunt through the hallway box this weekend.

Initial thoughts on the new McBride CD: After two big Adult Contemporary hits off her last real (i.e.: pre-useless all-covers kiss-up) album ("This One's For the Girls," "In My Daughters's Eyes"), she's clearly and blatantly trying to step beyond a country audience. Or at least that's how it sounds to me so far. First two songs on the new album are among her most "rock" (as in "Sheryl Crow" mainly) cuts ever; "If I Had Your Name" ("...I'd be changing it right now"), especially, packs a tough boogiefied punch, and the more Cali soft-rocked "Cry Cry (Til the Sun Shines)" has a real guitar solo and a lyric that sounds like Art Alexakis could have written it. Most of the rest of what's jumping out of the disc seems less rock but still pretty AC so far: "How I Feel" nicely radio-ready with an '80s-Police-ballad-style bassline and words that rhyme "Christmas Eve" with "standing up for what you believe," yikes; "Love Land" another spare-sounding after school special (Martina is after all the Queen of The Soccer Moms of course) where either a baby or a mom dies (or maybe not) and words that rhyme "Thomas Edison" with "modern medicine"; "House of a Thousand Dreams" probably better than those, kinda gloomy and literally about the house itself (as a metaphor for a broken home how much you wanna bet), and there's cracks in all the windows and flies come in through the screens, but Martina (or the working class mom she's pretending to be here) will find some yard-sale curtains and make some yellow trimming for the seams. All in all, as I said, I'm still trying to figure out if the album's any good. But it's probably the most interesting country album I've heard so far this year, in the sense of giving listeners like me something to sink our minds' teeth into.

xhuxk, Friday, 2 March 2007 12:26 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, Michael McCall raved about Griffin in the N-ville Scene last week, and the reviews have generally been really favorable. I see what Chuck means about Martina; the modal "rock" twin geetars on the opener is very interesting, and that song is "harder" and more rockin' than I would've expected. I am not sure if she's convincing in this mode, but I shall see.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

[linkhttp://cdbaby.com/cd/hollybeth2[/link]

There is nothing audibly country about Holly Beth Vincent's new solo album, but she recorded five tracks of it with musicians in Nashville, and she's not metal, and she hasn't been a teen in years (though, okay, Holly and the Italians were sort of from the Go-Gos/Tony Basil era which might connect them to the current Avril Lavigne single but who cares since everybody always ignores what I write on the teenpop thread anyway), so I guess this is the best place to talk about it. What's standing in my way from liking it more, strangely, is Holly's voice, which seems to have become much smaller and more quiet and held-back over the last quarter-century. The singing doesn't especially bug me, but it never really seems to grab me either, and I wish it was more in the forefront. What keeps me listening anyway is the abundant variety of lively dance-pop backing: dancehall days wang-chunging ("Behind 4 Walls"), straight-up Paula Abdul ("Sparkle," where Holly's voice sort of does an squeaky little A'Me Lorain thing inasmuch as I remember what A'Me Lorain sang like), Hombres letting it all hang out ("Arlington"), Nirvana smelling like teen spirit ("I Hate You"), smooth jazz getting lite-funky ("King of Fat"), Roxette doing whatever Roxette did (other places). It's not bad. Maybe the goal is to appeal to Gwen Stefani or Goldfrapp fans or something? But I keep wishing it was hitting me more.

xhuxk, Saturday, 3 March 2007 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

http://cdbaby.com/cd/hollybeth2

You know, creating links here has become a real pain in the butt.

Been listening to Tim McGraw's All I Want from 1995 tonight, too. Never liked the hit, "I Like It I Love It," very much; just always seemed really stupid or something. And not much of the rest has been hitting me -- seems like, early in Tim's career, part of him was trying to pull off a macho post-Bocephus/proto-Montgomery Gentry country-boy-can-survive thing, and he's totally unconvincing at it in tracks like "That's Just Me." Oddly though, the one song I do like a lot so far is "Renegade," convincingly tough and well-riffed biker rock. I think I prefer it to the Jay-Z/Enimem version.



xhuxk, Saturday, 3 March 2007 05:07 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, here's another good cut: "I Didn't Ask And She Didn't Say," "Fogged in in Dallas on my way to L.A...Does she think about the nights we spent on Crystal Lake...I wonder if she thinks about Jackson Hole..."), with a melody very nicely anticipating Tim's later sensitive suburban side, and a riff coming in from...Jackson Browne? Seger's "Against the Wind"? Something like that.

xhuxk, Saturday, 3 March 2007 05:27 (eighteen years ago)

So seeing how Lantana covers them on their new album I can talk about REO Speedwagon (who always had some country in their flying turkey trottage and Kevin Cronin's southern Illinois drawls, truth be told) here right? New album (REO's not Lantana's) Everyone Loves a Happy Ending has two songs I like: "Dangerous Combination," tuff Babys-style hard pop about drinking too much and thinking too much, and, more notably, the opener "Smilin' In The End," which from the hysterial hyper singing to dance-rock beat to goofy lines about "Leave me alone, I'll recover/say nasty things about my mother" and "You can beat me/mistreat me/but I'll be smiling in the end" sounds so much like the Electric Six I'm halfway convinced it's intentional. The rest isn't awful -- a vaguely pompy ballad, a closer with lyrics about the spirit guiding you that could be either born-again or new-age, and a couple cuts ("Lost On The Road Of Love," "Born To Love You") that half-palatably do a whitewashed '80s sort of Robert Palmer/Peter Gabriel/Stevie Winwood/Phil Collins/Joe Cocker fake funk thang, sometimes with soul sisters backupping. No country though, sigh.

New Jenni Rivera album Mi Vida Loca (see also: Ricky Martin, Pam Tillis), meanwhile, seems as run-of-the-mill border-pop as the new album
by her likewise formerly more hip-hoppy Fonovisa labelmate Yolanda Perez, with just two exceptions: an English language cover of "I Will Survive" more notable for its tuba-disco arrangement than for its Gaynor-clone singing, and the one track I really love, "Yo Era Su Reina/Dama Divina," which has this crazy Xuxa-playing-Dixieland-jazz'n'roll-at-the circus sound. (Maybe only the second half is the actual title; I'm not sure. Jenni has spoken parts before almost every song, which might be entertaining if I spoke Spanish, especially if they're as off-the-rocker as some of her previous CDs' liner notes, but as is there's nothing interesting about her speaking voice I can hear, and it's as irritating as the spoken parts you get on watermarked promo advance CDs.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

HOLY FUCK THIS MIRANDA LAMBERT ALBUM IS SO GREAT!!!!!!!

Feels like a hard rock album! "Getting Ready" might even sound more like the Screaming Blue Messiahs than "Kerosene" did (except her voice is reminding me of some old new wave cowpunkgal, I forget who). "Down" rocks even harder maybe. Damn she knows how to ride a big blues riff.

xhuxk, Sunday, 4 March 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

A dance album too! "Dry Town," "Famous In A Small Town," "Guilty in Here"... I'm gonna go out on a limb and make my first album-of-the-year prediction of the year. Maybe not, but way up on my list, easy. I can tell.

xhuxk, Sunday, 4 March 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

Holly Beth Vincent rhymes "Paris" with "bare ass" (unfortunately referring to the city not the reality TV star who made my second-favorite album of 2006), though does it several times too often thereby cutting the impact. Pretty good songwriting, on about half the songs really needs deep Gary Numan synths rather than guitars.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 4 March 2007 04:18 (eighteen years ago)

Last year I heard a few early '00s tracks from Patty Griffin that sounded like adult teenpop, i.e. good; borrowed a more recent album from the library that sounded like adult blahpop and garnered much praise for her being one of the great living songwriters of all time or something. Jessica said in the liner notes to A Public Affair that she and Ashlee spent Xmas 2005 holding each other and crying and listening to Patty Griffin. (Speaking of Jessica, the alb was better than I'd initially thought, though still a very mixed bag in mood, quality, etc. Nothing else as sunny as the title track, but there was a good early '90s-styled r'n'r ballad, a good early '90s-styled dance track, an interesting attempt to be experimental while doing some godawful mugging that I would have taken to be a parody of "sexiness" but is an interesting combo of country and Ohio Players nonetheless (though not nearly as good as her '05 combo of country and clave), some blah MOR, a slamming Scott Storch track that's not up to some of his even more slamming tracks for other people. Etc.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 4 March 2007 04:28 (eighteen years ago)

Singles hmmm: Montgomery Gentry's "Lucky Guy" (with unerring taste, Columbia chooses worst song on alb for new single) (though even second-rate MG is good), Little Big Town's "A Little More You" (second worst song on LBT album, which has been around for at least 16 months, seems to me), Eric Church's "Guys Like Me" (middling track from his alb; a honey wi' class falls for a nigga from tha hood, or something), Trace Adkins "Ladies Love Country Boys" (a honey wi' class falls for a nigga from tha hood, or something) (shrug). Miranda Lambert says on her Webpage that her next single's supposed to be "Famous In A Small Town," coming soon but it's not up on her MySpace yet and I haven't heard it, and she says record company weirdness has been making things uncertain. (Album's due May 1.) Toby Keith's "High Maintenance Woman" is a good bit of Southernicated Cougarish pop-rock (lady wi' class falls for nigga w/ ass, or something; melody reminds me of "I Fought The Law" and "Two Pink Lines"), getting mixed comment on this thread but I like it and according to Mediabase it's the song with the biggest country airplay jump over the the last seven days.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 4 March 2007 07:35 (eighteen years ago)

"the alb was better than I'd thought" = The Jessica Simpson alb, not the Patty Griffin alb

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 4 March 2007 07:37 (eighteen years ago)

Chris Young's new single is allegedly "You're Gonna Love Me," which as I recall (though I should go back and spin it when I have a chance) is one of the worst songs on his album, which just took the biggest leap on the country album chart, if I'm remembering this week's Billboard, after a guest spot on his old home Nashville Star. Rodney Atkins's new single is allegedly "These Are My People," which I like despite its stupid cliches about Sutthern people who live off the land or whatever the hell it is they do.

Another new favorite off Miranda's album (I'm up to at least six songs I love out of 11 so far, just from playing it in the background and not really paying attention, which is impossible, since the songs all reach out and grab me by the throat even if I'm not paying attention like no songs by anybody I've heard in months): "Gunpowder & Lead," What little girls are made of.

Worst song on MG's album was not "Lucky Man." It was "If You Wanna Keep an Angel." Now I should hunt for "High Maintenance Woman" again.

xhuxk, Sunday, 4 March 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

Holly Beth Vincent.... Pretty good songwriting

How can you tell, Frank? Seems to me she barely opens her mouth. I don't think any words grabbed me. Though I wasn't listening with headphones.

xhuxk, Sunday, 4 March 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, the high maintenance woman don't need no maintenance man, funny song! And rocking, too. Finally an anthem for Schneider on "One Day At A Time" (plus, the best song about being a stalker since, um, the last one.)

And who am I foolin', I like the lyrics to "These Are My People." And I'm not sure why I'm calling them stupid cliches, since I can't remember any songs that mentioned junior college and church league softball before. Plus I love that it names three great Skynyrd songs. And "the kids that thought they'd run this town/ain't a runnin' much of anything" has some sad truth in it.


xhuxk, Sunday, 4 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

so, is Rodney Atkins' "These Are My People" a companion piece to Randy Newman's "My Country" on Bad Love? I think I'm interviewing Atkins next week sometime for a profile I'm doing. I don't recall being impressed either way with his stuff, and I just got the Going Through Hell CD. He's from East Tennessee and I like the way he wears his white t-shirt on the CD cover. Gotta listen to it tomorrow.
Occurs to me that a song like Tim McGraw's "Two Dollars" trivializes poverty even more than does many another country song about being free and footloose and poor. In fact I find it offensive and a really bad song. Or perhaps it is because I saw the video again today while channel-flipping and then directly saw Barbara Ehrenreich (sp?), author of Nickel and Dimed, being quietly eloquent about the plight of working Americans, on C-Span.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 4 March 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

and, got the Gary Allan best-of. Good selection--"Nothing on but the Radio" is sure a great song. But the new one that's bait and leads it off is pretty terrible, I think, hardly up to Allan's usual high standard.
thought I'd mention, too, that David Cantwell makes an interesting and well-written case for Dwight Yoakam being the artist who really got rock fans and other folks skeptical about country back into the genre, in his essay in the current No Depression. There's also a thing by a guy named Hurt on Bobby Braddock's newly published memoir in the same issue, in case anyone's innerested.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 4 March 2007 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

Xhuxk, xcept for the Paris-bare-ass thing I didn't pay attention to Holly's words, but thought the melodies weren't bad at all. Don't think any stuck out as great, however.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 5 March 2007 04:57 (eighteen years ago)

Still really digging the new Miranda Lambert. The last song is by Guy Clark's better half, Susanna Clark, and Emmylou Harris. Real nice.

One of the less lively tracks on the record (which is the liveliest record I've heard in ages, so figure that into the equation), I think -- which is to say one of four ballads: "Love Letters," "Desperation," "More Like Her" (actually, is that one a ballad? I'm not sure how it sounds, come to think of it), "Easy From Now On." The seven rockers kick ass; the slow ones are taking longer to kick in. Though that may have more to do with me than with Miranda.

xhuxk, Monday, 5 March 2007 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

xhuxk, you convinced me to check Miranda Lambert's myspace, and some of what I heard there (especially "Crazy Ex Girlfriend") has me pretty interested. Great strong singer, and I think I like the lyrics as well. (I don't read this thread, but I skim it.)

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:00 (eighteen years ago)

Also, her new dog is really cute.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:04 (eighteen years ago)

Since there's no rolling sexy rock chicks thread, I thought I'd mention Little Birdy here. (http://www.myspace.com/littlebirdy) Lead singer Katy Steele's a deep-voiced hottie much like Christina Amphlett or Leanne Kingwell; on the single "Bodies" the band revs up the guitars, of course, but also sprinkles her with new wavy blips and sine-wavy waves.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:42 (eighteen years ago)

Don't like their other three mice pace songs nearly as much, however.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

just heard sunny sweeney's album all the way through for the first time today. it sounds soooo 1980s new traditionalist and/but i love it. "next big nothing," which is part buck owens rewrite as edd notes above but also part merle haggard rewrite (chorus melody's pretty close to "okie from muskogee") is pretty much perfect, from the swinging beat to the neat little electric gtr solo to the lyric that's so obvious that someone should have written it 25 years ago except that no one did. i'm fascinated by the line "you won't see my name on mtv," which seems a strange thing for a new-trad honky-tonk singer to be singing. shouldn't it be "you won't see my name on cmt"? or is mtv just a better brand name for general songwriting purposes?

"refresh my memory" has a nice, gentle honky-tonk swing to it too.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 05:43 (eighteen years ago)

Travis Trtt on American Idol last night announcing that Randy Jackson is producing his new album.

mulla atari, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

Just blindsided by a blindfold test over on Poptimists that included the band Oi Va Voi, a Jewish gypsyish Spanishish klezmerish group from London w/ a familiar-sounding lead singer I couldn't identify: thought it might have been Amy Winehouse, turned out to be KT Tunstall, which means Oi Va Voi are relevant to rolling country, which is the first place I ever heard KT discussed. New alb due in April, sans KT, of course. Way prefer this to her subsequent stuff.

http://www.myspace.com/oivavoi

Recommend you scroll down to "Ladino Song."

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

Don't know what screwed up the Little Birdy link (is there some Mod policy against us linking to MySpace? I haven't been checking the Mod thread)

I'll try again:

http://www.myspace.com/littlebirdy (or you can just paste it into the address box).

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

metal threaded first:

Mississippi Mudsharks: Clutzy stodgy muscleman boogie, aiming for "Train Kept A Rollin" (album is called Train Rolls On!) but never quite getting there, though once in a while the clumsy wrestler voice singer inches toward Jim "Dandy" Mangrum territory, and "30 Weight Shuffle" has a decent blues guitar jam at the end. ("Down the Line," hefty guitar-grime instrumental on now, is not bad either, come to think of it.) Only song I really like a lot so far, though, is the Link Wrayed ghoulabilly of "Devil's Road." But we'll see.

Their myspace page:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=158493480

not metal threaded yet:

Also been trying to listen to Two-Car Garage, whose previous album I started to like at first and then it wound up disappointing me. Roy Kasten is a fan, I think he told me. Anyway, so far my response to their new Three is "sounds like the Drive By Truckers, but not as good as when I used to like that band" ("Arson") or else "sounds like the Bottle Rockets. who were never all that great in the first place" ("The Great Gravitron Massacre"). But I like the Dixielandy boppery if not the Waitsy grunting so much in "Epitaph," and "Come Back To Shelby," I think it is, seems to partake in a certain '80s Whiskey A Go Go hard rock influence. (Paste magazine apparently even heard some Quiet Riot in their music, though I wouldn't go that far, not that I've ever been a huge Quiet Riot fan anyway.) So we'll see again.

xhuxk, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)

Oops, Two COW Garage, and Roy actually mentions them above, likening the album to Springsteen, which I'm not hearing yet, and also commending their loud guitars, which don't strike me as all that loud yet. I also don't think they sound especially "garage," though that may well not be the point.

xhuxk, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:32 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, I made the same mistake with their name a year and a half ago!

Also finally played Two Car Garage's *The Wall Against Our Back,* which I think has been sitting on a shelf in my office for a year, yesterday, and found out these Columbus, Ohio dudes (three of 'em) sound more like the Drive By Truckers than even the Drive By Truckers do these days. I had no idea. Press sheet says they cover Bad Company and Billy Joe Shaver live, as well. How come I never heard of them?
xhuxk on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 10:16 AM (1 year ago)

Oops, I mean Two COW Garage. (There's a difference. They say people call Columbus a Cowtown, but they neglect to mention that it's also a College Town.) (Though I bet nobody in Ann Arbor would see it as one.)
xhuxk on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 10:18 AM (1 year ago)

Actually, the two really good songs on the Two Cow Garage CD (also the two most Drive By Truckerlike) appear to be "Make It Out Alive" and "Alphabet City." Some of the rest is probably at least worthy of post-*Fervor* Jason and the Scorchers; some of it's alt-country bleh. They end with a Beatles cover just like Kentucky Headhunters did this year, and their "Don't Let Me Down" (oops ***on promo copy only it says here) rocks OK, just not as hard as the Headhunters' "I'm Down."
xhuxk on Thursday, November 3, 2005 12:50 PM (1 year ago)

But I thought you dint like Drive-By Scorchers? My grandfather had a one-cow, one-family-of-packrats garage. Coulda been a two-cow. (It was a generational townbillies thing, and a Depression thing). But where would they have put their *stuff*?
don on Thursday, November 3, 2005 1:16 PM (1 year ago)

> I thought you dint like Drive-By Scorchers?<
I just don't like the NPR-country balladeers they've turned *into,* Don (plus live they're way too much Replacements and not enough Skynyrd); I still love *Southern Rock Opera,* and I like the one after that and the ones before -- only CD I really didn't like was their most recent one. And come to think of it I guess a lot of the less rocking Two Cow Garage tracks may well sound like that one, hmmmm; the two BEST Two Cow cuts are more Southern-Rock-Operatic.
xhuxk on Thursday, November 3, 2005 1:29 PM (1 year ago)


xhuxk, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:38 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, last 2 tracks on new album = Drive-By TRUDGErs. Which is part of the problem. Though the guitars are okay in a Neil Young kind of way.

xhuxk, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)

Mississippi Mudsharks' "Throw It In The Hole" = more ZZ Top (hence better).

xhuxk, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:53 (eighteen years ago)

metal threaded again:

Mississippi Musharks, on the other hand, have really grown on me--more for the guitars than for the songs, yet the grumbling does have plenty of haw-haw-haw-haw-haw in it. More Billy Gibbons than Jim Dandy or Tom Waits.

xhuxk, Saturday, 10 March 2007 03:22 (eighteen years ago)

So basically, what I decided about the new Two Cow Garage is they mostly split the difference between how Driveby Truckers sounded after I stopped caring about Driveby Truckers and how the Replacements sounded after I stopped caring about the Replacements. Too-plain singer; no noticeable rhythm section; too drowsy in general. Okay Crazy Horse guitar endings. There may well be songs in there (some of the titles do show potential), but I'm not otherwise inspired to dig further and find out. "Camaro"'s chorus sounds like Fleetwood Mac's "Second Hand News" with the life taken out.

xhuxk, Saturday, 10 March 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

Gotta say that Drakkar Sauna have not really lived up to what Don and Frank have said about them, either. After I've spent too much time with all three albums, they still usually hit me as a joke band without the jokes, and the alleged beauty of the harmonies doesn't generally grab me either; really, I guess it's the old folkie problem of I wish there was more music in their music, beyond the harmonies: I keep wishing they sounded more like The Scene Is Now, though I'm not sure I can pinpoint what I mean by that, exactly, though it probably has something to do with needing more rhythm. I've been liking their latest CD Jabraham Lincoln more than the first two because at least now they seem to be stretching out and droning repetitiously more (in "Mongrel of a Halfman Slave Bitch" and "Abandon Love," for instance, and maybe "Teach Me Your Legs" which has a middle-eastern tinge to it that somehow reminds me of '60s folk-psychers Kaleidoscope who I haven't listened to in forever so I'm probably wrong), so hopefully they're improving. And "There's Not Enough Tits On A Wolf" is kind of cute, I suppose. (I wonder if wolf cubs ever agree with them about that.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 10 March 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

Big & Rich's "Lost In This Moment" strikes me as a very good single, though it's rather straight-ahead for a Big & Rich single, isn't it. It's basically just a fairly normal country ballad, though I like the melody. But with none of the clever R&B/funk production or phrasing aspects that marked their first album. Is this relatively typical of the material on their second album (which I've still never heard)? Anyways, it's still one of the best new country singles I've heard so far.

Unrelated, "High Maintenance Woman" is no disappointment at all. I think it's one of the best singles Toby's ever put out (hmm, "As Good As I Once Was", "I Love This Bar", et al.) I actually think I like it better than any of the songs on White Trash With Money.

Greg Fanoe, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Also Miranda Lambert (whose album I just pre-ordered) is supporting Toby Keith on a tour later on this fall, which seems like a must see (or at least 3 dates are scheduled already). Toby Keith is enough of a force of nature that he seems like somebody you'd just have to see live at least once, and Miranda of course has so many great songs.

Greg Fanoe, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

"Lost In The Moment" (which I still haven't heard) is slated for B&R's third album, not their second (which had the similarly titled "Caught Up In The Moment," as I pointed out up above). Second album was not nearly as free-wheeling as their debut (no rapping, for instance), but was also far from generic pop-country fare. (Go back to the 2005 rolling thread; there's lots about it on there). I've heard some intriguing things about their imminent third (due out June 5), but for work reasons I can't discuss them yet (though the likely "You Shook Me All Night Long" cover is already public knowledge.)

I'd say more or less half of Toby's album last year is better than "High Maintenance Woman," but I like the song too, so I'm not going to quibble.

xhuxk, Saturday, 10 March 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

xhuxk, I apparently feel the same way about White Trash With Money as you feel about Jordan Pruitt's album: I liked, but didn't love, every track on the album.

Greg Fanoe, Saturday, 10 March 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

From metal thread, though I'm not sure why:

New Ian Hunter CD on Yep Roc appears to be about 95 percent hookless ballads. This is no doubt an optical illusion, but I still doubt I like it much.
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Actually, the jazzy country backing on track #10 of the Hunter CD has some life to it, at least until he starts singing about not being who he was when he was young, as if we couldn't tell. And a couple songs start out ripping off mid '60s Dylan okay. And it's not like he didn't have an aptitude for great ballads once upon a time. And Brain Capers was a zillion years ago; I really don't expect any metal out of the guy. But he just sounds tired on this thing, like just another singer-songwriter. So yeah, I see why it's on Yep Roc.


(Actually there is some life to Ian's vocal delivery in the Ain't What I Used To Be When I Was Young song; having a rhythm behind him lets him ride it. He was always a pretty good rapper. But not even that song sticks.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

(Said "mid '60s Dylan" stuff, incidentally = harmonicas, pretty much) (or okay, his band pretending like they're going to start playing "Like A Rolling Stone" once or twice. And one time they pretend like they're going to start playing "Walk on the Wild Side," sort of. But then Ian lets everybody down.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

Three way-below-the-radar country bands whose CDs arrived this weekend, all worth a mention though sadly none are even coming close to killing me:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=45647687

The Linemen -- Pals of Roy Kasten (who they thank in the liner notes) from St. Louis; sad serious super-purist Americana guys, probably too purist and Americana for my tastes -- with most of the songs, I've been thinking major-label Nashville production would give the music more life. Not sure if I'm convinced yet that the singer sounds like a "less uptight George Strait," either; George is pretty uptight, yeah, but this music usually feels uptighter (and Kevin Butterfield's voice is sounding thinner, less rich) to me, at least so far. But when the band gets some space to jazz up the rhythm a little bit and Butterfield goes into less-uptight Dwight Yoakam mode (i.e., "This Time Tomorrow," "Wasting Time"), things manage to pick up some. Even with those songs, though, something's missing: Melodies, words? I'm not sure yet.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=134646173

Antsy McClain and the Trailer Park Troubadors -- Pals of Lindsey Buckingham (who plays on three tracks) and Tommy Smothers (who sings on one) and Bonnie Bramlett (who also sings on one) from Kentucky. I'm not sure I'm getting the concept, but given the song titles ("Prozac Made Me Stay," "Cubic Zirconium in the Rough," "I Married Up," "Ron Howard's Brother," "I Was Just Flipped Off By A Silver Haired Old Lady With a 'Honk If You Love Jesus' Sticker On the Bumper of Her Car") and the fact that Antsy looks like if Huey Lewis was a polyester-suit wearing insurance salesman from the Iowa suburbs (not that any Iowa insurance salesmen ever really wear suits like that -- except, you know, on TV maybe), I get the idea it's meant to be funny. There's a certain sub-Rockpile/NRBQ bounce to the sound, and apparently the band's fans are called Flamingoheads. Problem is, none of it is making me laugh. But Antsy's not an awful singer or anything.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/johndeer

John Deer - Apparently they won some award as the best country band in Austria, though the cdbaby page one of the singers (not Dietmar Baumgartner, I assume, but who knows) comes from Australia instead, so I naturally had high hopes for this. So far what's standing in its way is that at least seven out of ten songs are covers, and at least three out of ten are Alan Jackson songs. Two of the covers are of rock songs (one Georgia Satellites --- which country acts like John Anderson have covered before--, one AC/DC -- "Highway to Hell," wonder if Big N Rich have heard it?), which is nice. But I was kinda hoping they'd turn them into Eurodance cheese a la Rednex. Or rock them harder. As is, they seem to do them fairly straight -- with exuberance and energy, but nothing yet that's luring me back for more.





xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, that was Antsy's folkie myspace page; this page should give you more of an idea of what his "musical comedy act" (so-called) is like:

http://www.unhitched.com/home.html

xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

(And by "not an awful singer", I think I mean "better than Rick Moranis.")

xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

I was kinda hoping they'd turn them into Eurodance cheese...Or rock them harder. As is, they seem to do them fairly straight

"Them" = the country songs they cover. (They turn the rock songs into country.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

I think "Brown Liquor" is the only great cut on the new B&R-produced John Anderson. Too many half-assed medium-tempo numbers.

last night (this morning) caught Mel Tillis and the Statesiders at the Midnite Jamboree at Opryland. Mel in fairly good voice--did "Detroit City" and let his kick-ass band do a souped-up "Orange Blossom Special." He has a pedal steel man who's been with him 39 years, his piano player about that long, and his guitar player was merely excellent. Good show--lots of tourists taking pix. The 50-something fiddle player was stationed next to Jennifer Herron, who does the voice-overs for the radio show on the stage, and he seemed mighty enamored of her, and with good reason: she's even more beautiful than her voice. I plan to see Dale Watson there on May 12...

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 11 March 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

(There's a difference. They say people call Columbus a Cowtown, but they neglect to mention that it's also a College Town.)

Well, Storrs, Connecticut, is a college town, but the college (University of Connecticut) had been Storrs Agricultural School back in the old days, which means it was a cow college, hence Storrs is a college town and a cow town. The university still has cows and barns and its own dairy.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 11 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

A friend of mine saw the Strait-Swift-Milsap show recently; loved it; hadn't thought she'd heard much Milsap before but kept recognizing songs as he was playing them. Hadn't realized he was blind. Also was surprised by how tall Taylor was. Said that Taylor was out in the lobby before the show, talking to people and signing autographs.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 11 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

Got Dylan's Modern Times from the library; first impression is that Loud Fast Rules, while Moody Lethargy Deadens. Which means that his raspy old coot of a voice fits well with drivin' gnarled blues numbers while it makes the slow drifting lounge tracks even more stuporific. There is some value in the latter nonetheless, and one of them - an endless bit of eeriness called "Ain't Talkin'" - kind of works anyway, has a feel that reminds me of old spirituals or laments but I can imagine it also being done for strangeness by modern-day Detroit no wave experimentalists such as Child Bite and done for passion by Ashlee-type pop confessional women and done for ghostliness by Ciara/Cassie r&b spectres. Best track by far is "Rollin' and Tumblin'," played in Howlin' Wolf style; an album full of such stuff would probably have outranked Toby and Alan last year. But unfortunately Modern Times is an album full of the slow stuff instead, even more than Love And Theft was, and it's not at all exhilarating to listen to, nor gorgeously elegiac. "Someday Baby" is as good as I remember, "The Levee's Gonna Break" is serviceable ('cept Plant and Page own this song, so why bother?), the rest I'll get back to but I'm expecting that even with great instrumental moodiness I'm not going to enjoy the relistens.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 11 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting, but I find "Rollin and Tumblin" one of the weakest tracks--precisely because it tries for gnarled drive but never gets out of second gear--at least when compared to the faster numbers on Love & Theft--and so actually <i>feels</i> more sluggish to me than the numbers with slower meters.

I've been neglecting this thread--not out of disinterest, just out of lack of hours in the day. Tomorrow I'm heading to SXSW, about which I'll be blargghing for the Amazon Earworm blog; will send link when it's up. Have a great week, all.

Roy Kasten, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Reading bottom to top:

I've been thinking major-label Nashville production would give the music more life

I kinda agree, xhuxk. The Linemen's CD began as demos to get gigs; I'm not sure they fully got beyond that starting point. It was recorded in the steel player's basement, not that that should matter too much. I think they have countrypolitan potential, mostly because I think Butterfield's songs are good, have hooks and melodies, but the production doesn't get them all the away across. But purist? I don't hear that at all.

Roy Kasten, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, although I should add that (cf way up-thread) neither xhuxk nor I seem to know what "major label Nashville production" is!

Roy Kasten, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Good point!

These vinyl records cost me $7 total in Greenpoint this afternoon:

Hoagy Carmichael A Legenday Peformer & Composer (RCA, 1979 -- most of the tracks are actually sung by other people; nice die-cut or whatever it's called cover with a big round hole in the middle)

Ray Charles Wish You Were Here Tonight (Columbia, 1983 -- pop-country album; I remember liking it when it came out)

Juice Newton & Silver Spur Juice Newton & Silver Spur (RCA, 1975, sealed! Record collectors please advise: Do I open it or not? And does the fact that the top of the sleeve is rather scuffed up negate the sealedeness?)


Entire $43 (mostly non-country) haul can be found here:

http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=56394

xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Meanwhile, this morning, before I went shopping, I was trying to catch up on some vinyl that I bought last month at Princeton and last year somewhere:

Bobby Bare The Very Best Of -- He covers four songs by Kris Kristofferrson, one by John Denver, one by Shel Silverstein ("Sylvia's Mother" -- Bon Jovi have a version on youtube, I just noticed!), on by Joe South, etc etc, and two by Tom T Hall. It mostly sounds real good, and the selection obviously says a lot about the ominvorousness of his taste, but I have to say of the two Tom T Hall songs, I like "She Gave Her Heart to Jethro" about ten times as much as "That's How I Got To Memphis." Which is no big deal, except: (1) "She Gave Her Heart to Jethro" is not even close to my favorirte Tom T Hall song, and (2) There was another thread on ILM recently specifically devoted to "That's How I Got To Memphis," calling it one of the greatest songs ever, when there's a good chance I wouldn't even put it in Tom T's Top 40, much less everybody else's. Nothing against the song, which is fine. But I'm confused: Why do people think it's so great?

Crash Craddock Greatest Hits This came out on Capitol in 1983, and for some reason it doesn't call him Billy anwhere on the cover, and I have no idea if these really are his greatest hits (just like I kinda doubt the previous LP discussed was actually Bare's very best), but even still, I'm kind of develping a Craddock theory: So, apparently he had been a rockabilly teen idol in the '50s, right? Or tried to be one? On the first side of this album (unlike the second side, which is more ballad heavy), he sounds like both an Elvis imitator and the blueprint for Billy Ray Cyrus, especially in "Hubba Hubba." He's a lot schmaltzier than I expected, but I don't know what led me to expect otherwise. The version of "Sea Cruise" is servicable, I guess.

Ronnie Milsap, One More Try For Love The synthified 1984 pop production works well with his voice, and though I'm not sure if there are any great songs on here, the open spaces in "Suburbia" are quite apt; you could segue it into the Pet Shop Boys's song of the same name, if you want, or "Subdivisions" by Rush maybe. I also like "Prisoner of the Highway".

xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

Now playing another vinyl find, Release by Henry Gross from 1976, which features his biggest hit "Shannon," about one Shannon (who I always assumed was a dog, for some reason, though the lyrics never explicitly say that) drifting out to sea. I wouldn't have thought of him as country (more like Elton John circa "Country Comfort," maybe? -- though basically he just looks like a mellow '70s singer-songwriter with facial hair), but both the original red version of the Rolling Stone Record Guide (which doesn't like him, and which also says he attempts "Stones-type rockers, Beatlesque ballads, and Lou Reed-styled documentaries) and Christgau's '70s guide (which does like him, to my surprise*) insist country's part of the mix. Anyway, he sounds better than I'd expected! Nice falsetto, which I'd say owes as much to r&b as to c&w. But I haven't paid attention to the words yet. (Judging from the lethargic first three songs on the much rarer Andy Zwerlig album from 1970 I bought, which is playing now, I definitely prefer Gross to Zwerling so far even if Zwerling's got Lenny Kaye playing guitar.)


* -- oops, well, at least he liked one LP by him anyway, and liked it less later apparently (original grade: B+; he doesn't grade the one I bought)

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=henry+gross

xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:57 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno, maybe Zwerling would appeal to Nick Drake fans or Tim Buckley fans or somebody? Neither of which categories includes me. I'm hating this.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

"That's How I Got To Memphis": Again, like I said, a pretty good song. He follows her there, trying to figure out why she ran. Apparently she's in some kind of trouble. But that's all we learn; it's got the beginnings of a good story, but coming from Tom T. Hall, who is one of the best storytelling songwriters ever, it leaves me wanting me: More specifics, more humor, more ironies, more hooks. Plus, it sounds kind of dreary. But yeah, it's okay.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 12:25 (eighteen years ago)

(But maybe people think of it as a lonely Lee Hazlewood-type song? If so, I can kind of hear that. For all, I know, he may have even done a version.) (Assuming he ever did songs other people wrote. Which he maybe didn't.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 12:28 (eighteen years ago)

Posted my conflicted thoughts regarding Tim McGraw's "Last Dollar" over on Jukebox.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

Xhuxk, I think you'll like that song "Bodies" by Little Birdy that I talked about upthread, but here's the correct link.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

I will check it out, Frank, I promise! But tonight I am too busy listening to my Ducks Deluxe LP. ([i]Don't Mind Rockin' Tonite/i]. Which is great. They may not rock as hard as Count Bishops, but they definitely rock harder than Nick Lowe or Dave Edmunds. And as hard as Eddie and the Hot Rods, at least.) (American equivalent of pub rock would be...Brownsville Station?)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

Henry Gross? Chuck, I'd a figured you woulda known about him long ago. Def. country in there...his big hit: "Southern Band," simulated southern band dynamix, "plug me into somethin'" was a catchphrase when I was in highschool down here in Tenn. and then he did a swell one called "Overton Square" after the square in Memphis (where that Eggleston back-cover shot on Radio City was done, with the 3 Big Stars enjoying a gin-and-tonic). pretty prime '70s pop, and "Shannon" was the other massive hit. I always liked him.

Mavis Staples' new Ry Cooder production We'll Never Turn Back has plenty of bite, she sings mainly about the Bad Old Place, Mississippi, and some cool snaky grooves. A return to the sound of the old Staples hits pre-Stax like "The Last Time," and man I have always loved Mavis' voice, and I sure loved Pop's guitar. As Xgau described it, and well, "laggard lick."

And as far as "I Got to Memphis" and Tom T. Hall. I agree w/ Chuck, the song sounds made up. Memphis being the place where Nashvillians go to Get Away and Get Real and dive into the demimonde as it were, like John Prine slurring his way down there to Sam Phillips and Pink Cadillac.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

American equivalent of pub rock would be...

Or maybe the Flamin' Groovies? (Incidentally, Leanne Kingwell tells me that Angel City//Rose Tattoo//AC/DC are still called "pub rock" in Australia, which is interesting.) (And obviously the Brit mid '70s pubnesss did have a c&w element, especially with bands like Brinsley Schwarz, which is why it makes sense on this thread, that and Elizabeth McQueen doing her tribute album in '05. On their album Ducks Deluxe cover "It's All Over Now," which has definitely also inspired country covers by John Anderson etc., plus "I Fought the Law" and Van M's "Here Comes The Night," which should have whether they did or didn't. The Rolling Stone "red" guide also says Ducks do a song called "West Texas Trucking Board," but it's not on my copy. There's definitely a hard rockabilly tinge to some stuff though.)

Now On: Jean Knight's My Toot Toot album on Mirage, 1985. I was under the impression that Christgau gave it a better grade than the B- he gave Rockin' Sidney's EP of the same year and the same name (which I also found a $1 copy of last year, and which it is indeed better than, though Rockin Sidney deserves a B at least; heck, it's an EP with a fun and totally left-field indie label regional-turned-national hit novelty zydeco single -- that deserves a B alone!), but there's no Knight review in his '80s book or on his website. Anyway, I'm liking the all-covers first half of Knight's album ("My Toot Toot," "One Monkey Don't Stop No Show," "Mr. Big Stuff," "Let The Good Times Roll") more, but the second side where she attempts '80s r&b production (in tracks like "Magic") might ultimately be more interesting.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

(Oops, just checked; Xgau graded Rockin Sidney's minor-label LP, not his major-label EP. I've never seen the former. The latter is all the Sidney I need.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:15 (eighteen years ago)

American pub rock? Well, for the combination of return to rockingrollingness and oddball inventiveness, how about The Wild, The Innocent, And The E Street Shuffle? Or the original Modern Lovers? Or Mink Deville (whom I've barely ever heard, but somehow think might fit). J. Geils? Big Star, even?

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 07:10 (eighteen years ago)


Pretty Cowboy
Jason Meadows
100 % Cowboy
http://www.myspace.com/jasonmeadows100cowboy

Meadows is interesting, just the facts before we move onto the single. He grew up in a small town, on a farm, worked with bulls, rode rodeo for a while, and listened to country that was more chart then traditional. (George Strait came immediately to mind.) It's the story, with aw shucks phrasing, and a respect for his roots, that got him on Nashville Star, and every time that he won, every time he was chosen in front of someone else it was because of the traditional phrasing, the polite quietness, and the music that didn't much offend. It didn't hurt that he was tall, with a nice ass, and great eyes. Beefcake that you could take home to Mama. I watched the second season of Nashville star, with mild interest, mostly that it went worked hard at providing a full range of what was considered country, from girl singers to rockabilly to cowboy music to something resembling rock and roll.

Jason Meadows, two seasons after being the runner up, is now releasing an album. The single is out, and the video is available on his myspace page. They are selling him as a someone to ####, there was a pinup published in the Valentine issue of Country Weekly, with him hanging from a barn lintel, eyes low, gazing at the viewer, wearing nothing but a singlet. The photo of him on the CD single focuses on his arms, in a plaid shirt with the arms ripped off. He sings about not wanting to be a pretty boy or a movie cowboy, and he is pushing away from looking good on television. The video is similar,. just another working class man, cowboy being metonymy for cops and farmers and firemen and everyone else who does the scutwork that no one else is willing or able to do.

But he's a rodeo cowboy, so he never really did scutwork, he did hard work, I don't think that rodeoing is easy and he is too self consciously pretty, too careful about his appearance, and too derisive for this to be valid. I expect people who record to be playing with archetypes, to lie to me about where they come from, and in terms of country music, pretend to have a lot less money then they do. But the song you can t ell, comes directly from the rock hard is the new authentic, the genre that gave us Shooter Jennings, who had his daddy working for him, or Jason Aldean, who's signifiers of class and pyschogeographic space seem to be less jarring,. Or Gretchen Wilson, whose story had enough history close enough to the other women, that there is nothing out of place. The single is a failure (the publicity photos will end up under the mattress), but I am really curious to see how he constructs these personae over an entire album, esp. with titles like: Where Did My Dirt Road Go, Farm Girl, and Dirt Clod.



(also, im incredibly fond, intesnely fond, of the new tim mcgraw, because it has a great pop hook, and its simple, hopeful, showcases his voice well, and the childrens choir hasd a kind of bubbly lo fi pentecostal energy, but i dont know what you think of it)

pinkmoose, Thursday, 15 March 2007 07:33 (eighteen years ago)

American pub rock? The Wild, The Innocent, And The E Street Shuffle? Or the original Modern Lovers? Or Mink Deville (whom I've barely ever heard, but somehow think might fit). J. Geils? Big Star, even?

Mink Deville definitely; J Geils maybe (too hard rock? but then so were the Bishops. But if them, why not ZZ Top?) Springsteen: Maybe too much an auteur, even early on? Modern Lovers, I dunno. Big Star, I'll always be skeptical. If them, why not the Raspberries? Um....Earthquake. Greg Kihn. Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes. (Can somebody make a case for them already? Were they ever actually any good? Every $1 LP I've ever bought by them in my life, my high hopes wound up being dashed.) Er... Johnny Cougar. Bobby Seger. Tommy Petty for sure. The whole Robert Gordon to Blasters to who-knows-who rockabilly revival. Lotsa folks, duh.

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

(By "too hard rock" for Geils and ZZ, I maybe mean "too arena rock. Arenas being somewhat bigger than pubs, last time I checked. Though I'm guessing Geils [who I love by the way], at least, may have begun in the latter.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:38 (eighteen years ago)

(And by "too much an auteur" I mean that one requirement for pub rock seems to be that it partake in a certain "I'd just as well be playing softball [or, um, cricket maybe?] right now" demeanor. [So: George Thorogood and the Destroyers, obviously! Who even wore baseball jerseys!] Which is why Springsteen's first album seems less pub rock to me than the way more hacklike Greg Kihn covering songs off of Springsteen's first album, and why Graham Parker and the Rumour seem less pub rock to me than the Rumour sans Graham Parker. And maybe what makes Dire Straits [who came from the right place at the right time, right?] seem less pub rock than the Sultans of Swing they sang about.) (Also: Were Boomtown Rats the first punk-to-pub move, when they turned kinda Springsteeny with "Rat Trap" and "Joey's On The Street Again"? Could be. Definitely a subject for future research.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

dunno, my take on pub rockery is that it's Brits imitating supposed naturalness of Americans. by the time Brinsley Schwarz made "What's So Funny 'Bout" they sounded like Pablo Cruise with a better sense of humor--white-soul-lite. the father of American pub rock has to be Doug Sahm, with Mendocino (one of my top dozen favorite records of all time, all soulful and rickety and half-assed recorded, and just great) being the ur-document. the Flamin' Groovies on their first two records; after that, I like them but regard it as somewhat unnecessary powerpop. Henry Gross would be close, seems to me.
Gave the new Greencards another listen. Boy, that's one fine record, so well made. They cut it almost entirely live--added the strings and some vocal overdubs later. You wouldn't believe that voice would come out of the petite Carol Young. If I've ever met nicer music-biz folks anywhere, I don't know about it. Their first two records are good, too--neither of them plays up Young's voice enough, though, and the pickin' seems less focused than on Viridian. Only complaint I have is that the record is just too fucking compressed like most Nashville stuff. No air in the mix. Let 'em breathe!

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

I highly recommend Anthony Easton analyzing I Wish I Was A Mole In The Ground.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

Anthony, my and several other people's reactions to the McGraw are up on Jukebox.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

I mainly know pub rock by what the pub rockers went on to do; pub rock generated quite a few oddballs - Dury, Lowe, Costello*, Parker, Strummer - which is why the early Springsteen might fit (Patti Smith too, for that matter; the 101ers covered her version of "Gloria")

*don't think Costello was along yet at the pub rock time, but he certainly worked with 'em once he showed up

Frank Kogan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

Billy Swan might've invented pub rock, come to think of it.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Dog-watching for my wife's parents this week, with access to cable TV, saw that Pat Green's "Dixie Lullaby" is #2 on Great American Country's Top 12 "Pure" something or other countdown.
Great song.

Green's "Cannonball" was probably my favorite country album last year--Chuck gave it a few semi-positive mentions on the '06 thread but no discussion otherwise. I'm curious about what you guys think of him (Pat not Chuck.) From some Googling I've learned that he was once some sort of Robert Earl Keen- Texas singer-songwriter, but that his old fans think he's sold out to Nashville.

This may be the only case (that I can think of) of an alt-country artist (if he was ever considered that) going mainstream pop-country (if what he's doing now can be considered that--each of the few times in the past months I've turned on the local country station they played "Wave on Wave" so he must be kind of popular) rather than the other way around.

mulla atari, Saturday, 17 March 2007 06:22 (eighteen years ago)

This may be the only case (that I can think of) of an alt-country artist (if he was ever considered that) going mainstream pop-country

The Warren Brothers with their third album, maybe? (Though it's not like tht one got much mainstream radio play, plus it was sorta more country rock, so they probably don't count.) Um...the Dixie Chicks? Big Kenny? If either of them were ever "alt" in the first place or ever "mainsteam" in the second place. Anyway, good question. I need to ponder this issue more.

I liked Pat Green's previous album to the current one (see my comments below from the 2004 [!] rolling county thread); thought the current one was way spottier but still okay when it came out last year, but maybe I should go back and listen to it again. I've never heard his older allegedly alt-ish stuff, though. But Lucky Ones was #8 on my NashScene ballot in '04.

Here's wot I wrote (preceded by what Matt Cibula wrote, though I still know nothing about Green's Xtn side, assuming Matt's not just making it up):

what about pat green,
is he all crazy-christian
on the new record?
i like the single
but i gave up on him for
scoffing at darwin

Haibun (Begs2Differ) on Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:16 (2 years ago)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I had no idea that Pat Green was ever a dumbass creationist (as a matter of fact, I never even heard of him prior to his new album, to tell you the truth, so I came in with no prejudices positive or negative.) I put his new album on my country list because it expertly pulls off the sound of prime era John Cougar, Tom Petty, Jackson Browne, Kenny Chesney in "Summer of '69"/"Margarittaville" mode (e.g.: the one where he's nostalgic for college), Counting Crows in Van the Man mode (e.g.: the opening track), and, um, whatever '70s soul guys Brooks and Dunn sound like.

chuck on Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:41 (2 years ago)

xhuxk, Saturday, 17 March 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

Last year (I didn't say much!):

pat green album starts out good, gets dull in the second half, still a keeper.
xhuxk (xheddy) on Monday, 4 September 2006 22:05 (6 months ago)

Listening to the new Pat Green & all his Springsteen references (the lovers listening to "Born to Run" on "Feels Just Like It Should" and Pat singing about a 'brilliant disguise' on another track) got me thinking about how the Boss has shown up repeaedly over the last few years in country songs (off the top of my head MontGen's "Hell Yeah", Brooks & Dunn-"She was Born to Run.") .
ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez) on Friday, 29 September 2006 11:49 (5 months ago)

xhuxk, Saturday, 17 March 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

thanks for the love, frank, and if you have dylans version, i wouldnt mind hearing it.

about the mcgraw, the more i keep listening to it--i know its insipid, and stupid, and the lyrics are offensive to the working poor (and at least the video in stealing kisses implicitly talked about wealth, the video was really about estrangement/class in a way the overly arty foto of last dollar isnt), and all of it, at the end of it is indefensible.

but it makes me happy. (i really think that the artlessness of it is what does it--which is absurd, things that pay so much attention to being artless are the height of borgie indulgence, like 10 dollar marmalade or the bottles or organic guava juice or coffee at starbucks, but goddammit, those taste good)

someone else has my tracey lawerence, but i will review it after the move this week.

pinkmoose, Saturday, 17 March 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

& it passes the car test, its really easy to sing loud, with company, blasting on the radio, ive dont it a few times.

pinkmoose, Saturday, 17 March 2007 09:59 (eighteen years ago)

tis also not about the freedom of being poor, its about chucking everything, to be free--and thats kind of a radical message in capitalism, one of volantary simplicity, well not radical, hes not saying if yr poor, then yr free, hes saying fuck the mcmansions and the bordeuxs and the stetsons, and the escalades, you dont need anything but yr women, and even thats to be negoitated.

pinkmoose, Saturday, 17 March 2007 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

I still haven't heard the McGraw song! Maybe I'll poke around for it on line this weekend (and get to that Little Birdy song too, Frank, I promise.)

Meanwhile, Edd: I'll take your pub rock Billy Swan and raise you one Dwight Twilley. (Actually, neither of them ever made more than a single I've connected with, though people rave about the album with "I Can Help" on it. I owned it once, I'm pretty sure.) (Or maybe Creedence invented pub rock?) (As for pub rockers turning into eccentrics, as Frank says, that's a good point. And Ian Dury may be the weirdest of all those guys, but I've never heard his pub rock band Kilburn and the High Roads; how weird were they?)

In re pop-to-alt country moves: Interesting to think of Shelby, Lyle, k.d., folks like that moving in the alt direction for business reasons, since all of them (I assume) wound up shifting more units once they'd stopped aiming for country radio, right? At least long-tail-wise, it would seem to me.

So. Does Rich Boy's album (which I'm increasingly loving a lot of) count as country if he comes from Mobile, Alabama, and raps with an audible drawl? Probably not; I'm not hearing anything countrified on a Sparxxx/Banner/ Field Mob level in the instrumentation anywhwere. But I'm still pretty sure I like "Role Models" and "On The Regular" (and maybe "Lost Girls" and "Ghetto Rich") (and obviously "Get To Poppin,'," duh) at least as much if not more than "Thow Some D's," which is a pretty darn good hit single.

And does Cruachan's Morrigan's Call album count as country if it's the most Irish-jiggy extreme metal album ever made (not to mention the best metal album I've heard this year)? With good songs called "The Brown Bull of Cooley" and "The Old Woman In The Woods," not to mention yet another cover (after Tyr, I think, and the Dropkick Murphys featuring Shane McGowan, right?) of "The Very Wild Rover" (the "very" of which previous coverers have left out) just in time for this snowy St. Patrick's Day, no less?

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xhuxk, Saturday, 17 March 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

And does Mojo Stooges Jukebox (compiled by Iggy, whose new album with his band I still haven't heard and am not particularly looking forward to enduring, though I've noticed Anthony's a fan) count as the best country reissue of the year if it's got Jerry Lee Lewis, Eddie Cochran (whose "Cotton Picker" is pretty irritating, though no doubt that's what Iggy likes about it), Link Wray, Howlin' Wolf, Junior Kimbrough, John Lee Hooker, and Bo Diddley squeezed betweens its Trahsmen and Last Poets and Cannibals and Headhunters and Mothers of Invention? I would think so.

I'm also liking what I've heard so far (at least the Sheryl Crow, Deana Carter, Bryan Adams imitating Rod Stewart, Laura Harding whoever she is, and Rolling Stones tracks, none of which I love as much as "Cool Night" by Paul Davis which is also on here but what the heck) on the reissue of the soundtrack to Hope Floats, an apparent old movie from the early '90s or thereabouts I otherwise know nothing about. Still haven't listened to the Mavericks, Lila McCann, Trisha Yearwood, Lyle Lovett, Gillian Welch, or Bob Seger with Martina McBride tracks, but I will eventually, I'm sure.

Another good Southern rock band are these guys; the fact that "A Little Time" takes its music and "Let Your Love Light Shine" take its words from "Shine" by Collective Soul (which, let's face it, was really not that bad anyway in retrospect) are at least made up by the fact that "Nascar Superstar" takes its groove from "Walking The Dog" by Rufus Thomas. Otherwise, I can surely see why ZZ Top picked them as an opening band, though they're more Skynyrd if anything. They are Laidlaw from Houston:

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xhuxk, Saturday, 17 March 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

(And uh, more Black Crowes than Skynyrd, I guess, but what the hey.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 17 March 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

best metal album I've heard this year

Not counting metal albums that magazines like Decibel might not consider metal that is (i.e, I like Trigger Renegade and some others more)

I like the Mavericks track on Hope Floats! And the Gillian Welch one does not make me sick. And David Grusin's instrumental closer "Justin & Birdie" has a melody similar to "Flamingo Road" by David Johansen. And the Deanna Carter track "What Makes You Stay" (which isn't on any of the three albums I own by her -- was it on her second one, which I don't?) has a melody similar to "I Can't Make You Love Me" by Bonnie Raitt.

Collective Soul influence on Laidlaw mainly rests in the harmonies, I guess.

Rich Boy's "Touch That A**" would be more fun with less retarded words.

xhuxk, Saturday, 17 March 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

I would say Rodney Crowell's whole career has been going back and forth between "alt" and "mainstream" country. Gary Stewart, who would be alt- if anything if he were alive and speeding and drinking today, covered Crowell's definitively proto-alt "Ain't Living Long Like This" in 1977. I don't think Crowell really brought all that much to Elizabeth Cook's new one, which I've heard touted around here as "the record that alt-lovers and mainstream country fans could unite over, if only country radio, those bastards, would play "Sometimes It Takes Balls to Be a Woman." So I dunno, the basic question of who crosses over is a good one; Lyle Lovett and even Yoakam always had feet in both worlds. So did Dwight sell more records once he quit aiming at country radio so much? It's an interesting question to me because I love all those old guys like Moe Bandy and Mel Tillis, and wonder where it is they had to fall back on? Branson.

Anyway, looking at Christgau on Billy Swan, he agrees with me pretty much, the first 3 Monument LPs are strong. But "I Can Help" is '74, by which time pub rock was already almost finished. Or whatever you want to call it. And Chuck, yeah Dwight Twilley, and haven't you expressed yr. love for Moon Martin as well? Andrew Gold? Nilsson? Any number of roots-savvy schmeagles and putzes trying to get around good old macho? In England (he cut some of his stuff in Nashville with Buddy Spicher and Charlie McCoy), Andy Fairweather Low, who would be alt-country today if he'd gone that way for cash, instead of being the secret blues guitar hero and tasty r&b-based sideman he'd always wanted to be. So the blues was his fail-safe crossover place.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 17 March 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oops, it wasn't Anthony who loves the new Stooges album; it's Tim Ellison!

"Boy Looka Here" (cool marching band beat) also fun on the Rich Boy album. And "Hustla Balla Gangsta Mack" has New Orleans (more era than one probably -- the Meters one and the Cash Money one) in its rhythm and some lively gurl responses from Divinity, and "Let's Get This Paper" does ominousness pretty well. But "Role Models," featuring David Banner and Attitude, totally kicks like party-in-the-background frat rock as far as I'm concerned. Least enertaining tracks: "Madness" (which does ominousness shittily), "Touch That A**" (though its spare sound is okay), "What It Do".

Okay, enough hip-hop. Yes I do like Moon Martin. Quite a bit, in fact.

xhuxk, Saturday, 17 March 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

Lyle Lovett track on Hope Floats, a cover of "Smile" (you know, the "Smile" that goes "smile, 'cause your heart is etc etc") is ridiculous, and ridiculously bad--an entirely inept stab at sounding sophisticated, I gather. Sorry, but it is still way beyond me how anyone can take that dork seriously.

Turns out whose "Walking the Dog" "Nascar Superstar" by Laidlaw sounds like is Aerosmith's, whose sound is also fairly hearable in their "Austin City Wendy." "Swan Song (Tribute to Led Zeppelin)," on the other hand, sounds like guess who. In fact I was thinking of them before I even checked its title.

Pat Green Cannonball has been in my CD changer all day, and I have no more to say about it than I did last year. Mulla, what do you like about it so much? Which are your favorite tracks? It sounds okay, but beyond that...?

xhuxk, Saturday, 17 March 2007 22:35 (eighteen years ago)

I am envious of his shirt on the CD cover, though! He sorta dresses like me.

xhuxk, Saturday, 17 March 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

"Way Back Texas" seems the closest thing to a great song on it, which was I thought last year, too. It wouldn't have been one of the best tracks on the vastly superior Lucky Ones though, I don't think. "Feels Like It Should," where he drives around to "Born To Run," is nice. I can take or leave "Dixie Lullaby" -- just one more fair album track selected as a single.

So has anybody heard Merle Haggard's Hillary-for-President song yet? Saw a blurb about it in the Times a couple weeks back; supposedly he's been doing it live. But as usual I've been too lazy to hunt the Internets for it.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

(Basically, I guess you could say Pat Green improves whenever he veers toward '80s Cougar mode; the more country he is, the more a blank he feels. "Way Back Texas" is as rock as Cannonball gets, and therefore as good as it gets. But Lucky Ones was that rock way more often.)

More Hope Floats: Gillian Welch's "Paper Wings" turns out to be a bore as long as she's singing. When she stops, and the guitars come in, it comes to life.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)

chuck, do we have anything in common, cause i love that lyle singing slow and low, smile, so tired and so beaituful.

pinkmoose, Sunday, 18 March 2007 05:07 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, Anthony will be perhaps be happy to hear that I just re-listened to that Lyle track and decided it's maybe not all that horrible. I actually kind of like the jazz backing him up. And his voice is not intolerable in it. There's just something pomopus and too obvious to me about he slows the song toward lethargy, seemingly trying to make it intense or whatever -- Just strikes me as one of the biggest cliches on earth, and I don't buy it for a second. I get the idea he's trying really hard to impress me with his classiness for picking such an old standard to sing, yet he's too detached from the song -- too above it, in some kind of camp way maybe, but who knows -- to actually connect with its emotion. And I know, I know...I'm reading way too many intentions I couldn't possibly know into this, and not only that, I'm assigning what are probably contadictory intentions to it: he wants to make it intense and stay above its emotion; is that even possible? I don't know. All I know is that the performance feels really labored to me, with none of the ease that Alan Jackson or Toby Keith applied to music of a similar ilk (albeit not standards that have already been done to death, which may be part of the problem) last year. Gotta say, though, if that's the "Large Band" on there (that's what they were called, right?), Alan or Toby might consider giving them a call. With a more likeable singer, it's possible they'd rock my world.

Um...okay, maybe that won't make Anthony happy after all. But I'll say this about Lyle: At least he doesn't sing as bland as the guy from Whiskeytown, who also do a song on Hope Floats -- "Wither, I'm a Flower," jeez, though just like Gillian's track it improves when the guitars kick in. In general, though, I've decided that the album has too many tracks I dislike, too many that seem merely okay, and only one (Paul Davis's oldie "Cool Night," which I must own somewhere else, on a K-Tel album or a Rhino CD or a 45, right?) I truly love. Plus, the Seger/McBride "Chances Are" song is not a Johnny Mathis cover. So nope, not worth keeping. Does seem to have been a passingly brave early experiment in linking Nashville to alt-country, though.

(Looking over my Pat Green comments yesterday, they look way more incoherent than I intented. A couple of them, I can barely parse myself.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

...POMPOUS and too obvious to me about HOW he slows the song ...

(among other typos, no doubt.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, is the Whiskeytown guy Ryan Adams? (I'm too lazy to check, but he was in that band, right? I never spent much time listening to them myself.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

And if so, does that make Hope Floats the only album ever to feature both Ryan and Bryan??

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of the land of a thousand dances (see comments referencing Cannibal and the Headhunters and party-in-the-background frat-rock yesterday), Kelefah says this is the craze right about now in Lafeyette, LA. Sure sounds like '60s soul-turning-into-funk (ready to be covered by rockers in a suburban garage) to me; am I nuts? (I have no idea if these links will work; if not, just go to youtube and search "Cupid Shuffle" yourownself)?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ExC1oGN5J28

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-GxidrT5GyU

And Frank: Yes, I do indeed like "Bodies" by Little Birdy.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

i think that lyle gets this ironic tag more often then he deserves it, or this camp tag, and there are times when camp can come into an arrangement of a classic tune, or camp can be the after effect when a country tune turns into a show tune (im thinking about kd ca smoke, still one of my favourite albums, and thats b/c camp is only one effect and anyway she can sing in a way that lyle never managed, kd around torch and twang had too much consort in her), but i dont think that lovett at all is camp (even his genuine and rather tender cover of stand by yr man)

i bought smile:songs from the movies, and its not all good, sometimes his voice doesnt work, and sometimes his jazz band is a little too eager, and sometime i wish that he bothered a little more to swing or to work the melody or to do anything that a more traditional either country or jazz, but there are moments that might make it my country reissue of the year. among these moments that feature lyle (for example the brushed drumso n gee baby, aint i good to you arent his fault, but they are amazing) , are mostly jazz stanrds, esp. mack the knife or summer wind. his cover of I'm A Soilder in the Army of the Lord doesnt mock god, it even takes the awesomeness and the reverence of the divine into account, and ive always liked You've Got A Friend in Me, its that sentimental slush that manages to be carved into something genuine, because i know that both singer and songwriter can be right bastards when they need to be...

all of that said, the highlight for me, is smile. it reminds me of judy garland singing when yr smiling, because judy was insane, she was depressed, and any attempt for her to smile was a cracked out attempt at trying to convince the world that optisim will fix anything at all, and obv. its bullshit, but for 3 minutes or so, the sheer effort that she puts thru the delusion is convining. now lyle is way too laconic to work that hard at working thru an obvious delusion, but it makes it more beleivable. Someone so wry, so often depressed, and even sometimes ironic, who sings this, realises the disney/norman vincet peale shit wont work in the real world, a little delusion goes along way (other people who covered it who might know this: brian wilson, nat king cole, eddy arnold; other people who covered it who obv. had no fucking idea what was going on: michael jackson)

which disney movie does it come from?

pinkmoose, Sunday, 18 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

lyle says that it was written by charlie chaplin, that cant be right?

pinkmoose, Sunday, 18 March 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

so its not disney, it was used in modern times, which kind of i dont know, add a whole new level of pathos to the whole fucking thing

pinkmoose, Sunday, 18 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Btw, speaking of k.d., I got a CD by a group called Lesbians on Ecstasy (which looked like it'd be awful, and which I have no intention to listen to) in the mail yesterday, and their press release called "Constant Craving" (which I have no use for myself) "the lesbian 'I Will Always Love You.'" I had no idea that it had wound up on such a pedestal. What I mainly remember about it is jokes about "Constant Carving With A Butcher Knife" back in Radio On when it came out. Then again, I'm not exactly in the demographic.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

i once went to a news year concert with lesbians on xtc, which featured in no paticular order

1) tequilla shots
2) gin
3) dancing with my shirt off
4) being on the stage and deep frenching a v. straight looking guy
5) fondling the breasts of a fat dyke in a diaper
6) watching my friend rachel and her bf have a reationship breakdown because she made out with a v. attractive scenester
7) inapporiately hitting on a famous toronto gallerist.
8) finishing off a magnum of champagne.

the band was amazing, just loud and fast and raw and v. fun, but not nearly as much fun as the night

pinkmoose, Sunday, 18 March 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Re: Cannonball

Must be my personal taste--I like the slower & mid-tempo stuff (Missing Me, Lost Without You) nearly as much as the rockier tracks that front-load the album. "Wayback, Texas" is the stand out, but the title track rocks too. I've not listened to his earlier albums much (though I own a few now) so maybe this one is a let-down, but I really like his voice on here--Country Soul Man in a less show-offy (less Country? less Soulful?) way than, say, Ronnie Dunn. I dunno--there's something joyful about the whole affair.

Mild criticism--in "Love Like That" the line "See those kids over there in the parking lot/ They're probably drinking beer & smoking a lot" annoys me, a not-so-clever self-edit.

mulla atari, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting how, with Southern rock bands, it always takes me a few listens to figure out whether they belong more on this thread or on the rolling metal thread. Renegade Rail and Glenn Stewart belonged more here, probably. Laidlaw belong more there, it turns out, but I'll repeart this here anyway:

Speaking of funky hard rock protest songs (and come to think of it, the funk is one thing that REO's "Golden Country" had in ways that Journey could never manage, which is part of why they rocked harder, my nervous system says), Laidlaw have a couple of their own -- "Revolution Is Coming" (top song on their myspace page) and "War Machine," both in the great incoherent-but-that's-part-of-the-fun hippie tradition of "Golden Country" and Grand Funk's "People Let's Stop The War." Along with the comparably boogiefied "Austin City Wendy" and "Nascar Superstar," these are two of my favorite Laidlaw tracks, I think. Which is to say I not surprisingly prefer them in '70s rock (plenty of Bad Company in there too) mode to Collective Soul/Black Crowes mode, though I don't mind the latter. (As for their Zep mode, the lyrics of "Swan Song" turn out to be made up entirely of titles of Zep songs, which is uninentionally very dorky, but sort of endearing too.)

Pulled that new Greencards CD back out today to, inspired by Edd's raves about it. Figured I'd kept it just 'cause it was "pretty good for a bluegrass record" (faint praise in my book), and assumed Edd was overstating his case, but turns out the CD is way better than I'd remembered, so maybe he's right after all. It's not a totally consistent record -- the songs Carol Young sings have a definite end over the songs sung by whichever guy it is that sings -- but high points like "All The Way From Italy" and "Travel On" (one of two Kim Richey songwriting credits, which helps a lot) are so catchy and beautiful that they carry the weaker cuts. Plus, the opener "Waiting On the Night" is almost pop, and the second song "Here You Are" is almost prog in its fiddle etc orchestrations. And "Mucky the Duck" is a real good closer.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, the Greencards' guy singer (which one is he?) sounds kind of like Ricky Skaggs come to think of it. Sounds fine in "Lonesome Side of Town."

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

"..have a definite EDGE over..." (not end)

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

[i[lyle says that it was written by charlie chaplin, that cant be right?[/i]

it's quite true. charlie wrote a lot of music, in fact.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 19 March 2007 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

Xhuxk, here's my review of the Stooges' "My Idea Of Fun" (band surprisingly powerful, Iggy unsurprisingly unpowerful). People on the Rolling Snap Thread were savagely but inarticulately disliking the Rich Boy album; I like "Throw Some D's" and love "Get To Poppin'" (my number two single of 2005, wedged between "Since U Been Gone" and "La La"), though more on the basis of the sample than the rapping, and the remix f. Pitbull might be the best version but I only recall it from the local (now-defunct) reggaeton station. Haven't heard anything else by the guy. Like Xhuxk, I thought the previous Pat Green was best at its most Cougarish and when Green was doing the Kenny Chesney thing of celebrating college as a place to drink. Haven't heard the most recent. And I agree on placing the Dixie Chicks in the category Probably Alt Turned Mainstream 'Cept None Of Us Except For Don Has Heard The Stuff From When They Were Possibly Alt. Gary Allan might well be alt turned meanstream, except again I haven't heard him early, and I might be overplaying the fact that he like Yoakum got an early boost from the L.A. punk scene. What about Pam Tillis? (Again, her early rock and punk days are unheard by me.)

Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of Iggy (but not country), I'm listening to and liking Praga Khan's live version of Iggy's "Lust For Life," raw slamming techno - maybe we can call this style bosh punk.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:31 (eighteen years ago)

Dixie Chicks pre-Natalie, right? I can see Gary Allan being an alt-fave under favorable conditions, but have never heard of that happening. I guess it's a who-claims-what thing, with alt claiming honky-tonk & then mainstream saying, Naw, honky-tonk's ours, at least this year. Yoakam, I wonder if he was aiming for the mainstream or the select at the outset. Some artists seem to aim for an alt-audience from the get-go, while others think, why wouldn't everyone love me? And then there's the Maybe everyone would love me if I tried doing songs that sound more like the stuff everyone already loves types.

mulla atari, Monday, 19 March 2007 05:26 (eighteen years ago)

What about Pam Tillis? (Again, her early rock and punk days are unheard by me.)

I've got Above and Beyond the Wall of Cutey (Warner Bros., 1983) on vinyl (on the cover she looks very new wave wacky -- somewhere between Lauper and Benatar, maybe, though closer to, I dunno, maybe Jane Weidlin in the Go-Gos or Suzanna Hoffs in the Bangles {they were they wacky ones, right?} with a funny hat), but as I recall she looks more punk and/or rock than she sounds. Haven't played it in a while; I'll check it again soon and see.

Yoakam, I wonder if he was aiming for the mainstream or the select at the outset.

Not really sure what you mean by "select" here, but my impression when he put out his debut EP on Oak Records (wish I still had my copy on that label, sigh), Dwight was aiming for and getting a Southern California cowpunk crowd; i.e., his fans, I thought, were Rank and File fans and Jason and the Scorchers fans and Blasters fans, and then maybe some L.A. bizzer caught him and thought he could be bigger? I could be completely deluded, though.

xhuxk, Monday, 19 March 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

the Greencards record is really good. better than the Duhks or the Stringdusters or any of those folk(ie)s' records. it is a bit too compressed, aurally, for my taste, but that's 80 percent of Nashville records these days. their first two records got a bit precious for my taste, too much fucking fiddling and mandolin playing. this one puts Eamon and Kym where they belong, in the background, give them each a song or two and let them rip off a solo. (they're really cool, nice people, all of them--I interviewed them for a Nash Scene profile that runs this week.) most of it, like Chuck mentions "All the Way from Italy," is first-rate post-Nashville songwriting, too, and Carol Young has a way about her. this isn't a record I'd return to real often except for the opener and "Italy," both of which are just prime 2007 tracks already on my list, but it's sure nice. and their previous records ain't bad at all--I like them best when they're doing honky blues as on "Movin' Out."

now. damn, if I were a well-paid country songwriter with gonnegtions, I could use that line of Anthony's about "fondling the breasts of a fat dyke in a diaper." great.,

got the new Dale Watson finished CD today. he's looking bad-ass on the cover in a graveyard with a headstone that reads "Country Music RIP." I am not overstating when I say that I love the record, and Yuval Taylor put his "I Ain't Been Right Since I've Been Left," from a year or so ago, on a mix CD. also great.

got promo for new Gretchen Wilson, and plan to listen to it over beers tonight...

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

my impression when he put out his debut EP on Oak Records (wish I still had my copy on that label, sigh), Dwight was aiming for and getting a Southern California cowpunk crowd; i.e., his fans, I thought, were Rank and File fans and Jason and the Scorchers fans and Blasters fans, and then maybe some L.A. bizzer caught him and thought he could be bigger?

i don't know about the LA bizzer bit, not knowing how that stuff works, but when dwight put out that EP (and i still do have my copy!), i don't think it occurred to anyone that you could be a major commercial star making records like that anymore than you could be a major commercial star making records like, say, chronic town.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 19 March 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

the gretchen wilson single is awful.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

Does anyone mind if I chime in here? I've been browsing this thread for a while, but just registered, finally.

On the subject of Dwight, I first saw him opening for Lone Justice at the Palomino, believe it or not, probably at least a year before either had a record out. I'm not a Dwight historian, but my impression is that he made a stopover in Nashville on the way to L.A. and didn't find things to his liking there--but his intention was always to be a country star, or at least mainstream contender. He loved being part of that Blasters/X/Lone Justice crowd, but he sure never envisioned that being more than a stop in the road, I'm sure. I don't know if he had a master plan for how to regain Nashville's attention by being in L.A., but I'll bet he had some backup plans that didn't necessarily involve hanging out with Dave Alvin.

Of course, Dwight IS a major egghead--and I don't mean that in the male pattern baldness sense, though I suppose it applies--so his time in the mainstream was never destined to last.

The new No Depression has a nice lead review (in the reissues section) of "Guitars, Cadillacs" that all but attributes the invention of alt-country to him. It may go a little far in that regard, because I don't think Dwight ever imagined himself being alt-anything, except maybe in the sense that he was forced to find alternatives to having a record contract for a while.

I still have my original EP... Those were the days. Wish I could go to the Palomino on a typical 1984 night tonight.

--Chris W.

Willman, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

big & rich's "lost in this moment" is either a sappy hard-rock power ballad or a lost yacht rock album track or a bruce springsteen love song circa 1998 or an nsync/alabama collaboration with more guitars. and i think it's as bad as the gretchen wilson single.

on the subject of dwight as alt-country inventor, i'll note that he was the first contemporary country singer i ever paid attention to, and i have a feeling that, as a northeastern indie-rock kid, i was far from alone in that. even if his sound and style didn't specifically predict alt-country, the fact that replacements fans liked him, and wanted to explore further, probably counted for a lot.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:23 (eighteen years ago)

Does anyone mind if I chime in here? --Chris W

Welcome, Chris! By all means, you should start posting here all the time. And you should send me a copy of Rednecks & Blue Necks that your publicity person promised me two years ago but I never got, heh heh.

he was the first contemporary country singer i ever paid attention to,

Mine was a couple years earlier: Joe Ely, maybe? Obvious punk connections with him, too. But yeah, Dwight definitely had the new wave stamp of approval in those days. (Hell, I even liked Elvis Costello's Almost Blue back then! Haven't listened to it in decades; was it actually any good?)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

Almost Blue? I saw Elvis the C on that tour and of course had the record. It's not any fucking good is what I think. I'm down on Costello's stuff in general after mid-'80s. I think he did Stax better on Get Happy!!!. Or rather, his band did. By that time when he decided to go country I was already listening to country music and had been, pretty much, but obviously I was more comfortable with Gram Parsons and Joe Ely and that sort of thing. Rank and File. Costello however was good with George Jones, I saw that clip of them doing "Stranger in the House" recently, and that's a kick. Mark Nevers told me that he thought Costello sang better than he has in a while on the new Charlie Louvin record; it's not as strained, I guess, it's OK. But I mean nobody on that record sings as good as George Jones, although I really love hearing Bobby Bare and Tom T. Hall on that one cut. (Bobby Bare Sr., as one must clarify in Nashville.) I think we were talking about pub rock above and it seems to me the early Americana shit and the general canonization of '50s and '60s country partially started with pub rock, because then when you listen to Nick Lowe and Edmunds and those guys, they're direct descendents of the Burritos and all that proto-alt stuff. In that sense Dwight Yoakam was definitely like a punk version of country who somehow made it in the mainstream. Through videos, and Pete Anderson, mainly. Rock crossover move only made possible post-post-punk?

New Ry Cooder is something of a chore to sit through. Various modes of antiquity, some interesting guests like Jon Hassell, Roland White, Van Dyke Parks. Kinda like his early stuff, Into the Purple Valley and Paradise and Lunch. Not sure why he had to make his travelin' hobo a cat or his critique of a world that doesn't appreciate the Solidarity of Labor a fable. Some nice moments, but I never thought Ry's voice bore much real weight. One thing that sounds much like Beefheart blues circa '68. Last one, Chavez Ravine, I thought was actually real good--like he was going back to his L.A. Pachuco-rock roots. Nice package, comes with a book and everything, and I mean Buddy the Cat looks cool, I like cats.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

I thought Elizabeth McQueen's version of "Almost Blue" was one of the best things on her "pub-rock" record. Hard to think that McQueen will ever make a great album, though, unless someone else is totally in charge. She's got a very nice voice, but she seems to lack an artistic killer instinct, so results run from nice to nice, without much else. I've paid astonishingly little attention to Costello over the years, but my guess is that he's somewhere the opposite of McQueen: does have the killer instinct but doesn't have the voice. But then, when I was listening to him back in the "This Year's Girl" days, I thought his musical instincts evaporated when you went beyond his voice and songs; which is to say that the Attractions could jab you but they couldn't rock you, they didn't manage (or the producer - Nick Lowe? - failed to capture) the basic voluptuousness of music. So he was like the Franz Ferdinand of his day. (I like Franz Ferdinand, a funny glammy take on postpunk, but the band's basic herky-jerk undercuts its viscera.) Then, barely paying attention, I got the feeling that Costello was reaching out and embracing a whole bunch of things that his voice couldn't do justice to.

The bits I've read about early Yoakum match up with what Chris said: he was playing honky-tonk in L.A. country bars in the Valley for patrons who'd rather have heard Kenny Rogers; then the cowpunks found him or vice versa and they were willing to listen and applaud.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Sure, Chuck, I will get you a copy. I remember having two conversations with the publisher's publicist about getting one to you when the book was in the bloom of youth, so I don't know what happened. But I bought a stash for purposes just like this. Actually, I should have waited--I see there are now remaindered copies on Amazon going for cheaper than what I bought 'em for from the publisher a few months ago.

Count me in among those who "discovered" country via "Almost Blue" (not counting childhood viewings of "Hee Haw" and a copy of "Cattle Call" that was the one country record in our household). I love Costello--as in, 98% of everything he's done--beyond most standards of reason, so I should probably refrain from defending him to non-fans, lest I just get apoplectic. But "Almost Blue" was probably never one of anybody's most beloved EC records; if any of his LPs should have had "Stiff" on the spine, it should've been that one. But I love it even if it puzzlingly stuck too close to some sort of remembrance of what Billy Sherrill should do for its own good (after the one raucous cut, the opener). And I think "Good Year for the Roses" is still rightfully remembered as a great single, in the UK, where it was a hit. Anyway, "King of America" was Costello's great "country" record, sort of. There's still more material there waiting to be covered by some brave artist, even though Johnny and Rosanne Cash both got to individual tracks.

On the subject of Dwight, last time he played L.A., he raged from the stage about Brooks & Dunn appropriating his "Hillbilly Deluxe" title (though he didn't mention them by name). Made me wonder... does he pick a bone about that every night?

Willman, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, Chris! (Believe it or not, I even put your book on my Xmas list last year, but sadly nobody bought me the copy I'm too cheap to buy myself.)

I personally have never comprehended the attraction of any Costello after Trust, but I've admittedly become lazier and lazier over the years about trying to keep up with the old cuss. Never really connected with Get Happy, either -- if it's Stax, it's Stax with tall he funk taken out, as far as I can tell. (Ha, here's a good question: What is Elvis C's funkiest song ever? I pick "Getting Mighty Crowded," which is a Van McCoy cover, I believe, on the underrated early odds-and-sods collection Taking Liberties, but maybe I'm missing some obvious competition.) On the other hand, I think Frank kind of underrates the Attractions' rocking on This Year's Model.

In fact, so far, I'd say the Attractions rock harder on that album than the Stooges do on their new album. I need to listen more, but so far, I'd say the band sounds almost as thin and drowning underwater as Iggy does. Though maybe I just need to get past Albini's typically self-defeating production muffle, who knows. Either way, though, Iggy pretty much sounds awful. A couple of the songs ("ATM," which may or may not be better than Girls Against Boys' "Cold Cash Machine"; "I'm Fried") do kind of sound like songs though, at least. And I have been loving Steve Mackay's sax blurts in I think "I'm Fried" and the otherwise very shitty and hookless "She Took My Money," which I didn't expect. So far, the track I hate most is "You Can't Have Friends," though competition may emerge as I listen to it more. (On the other hand, I don't get either the people who complain or the people who rave about the allegedly "stupid lyrics." They're just sound like...lyrics.)

This more-or-less random cdbaby Southern-rock CD rocks harder than Weirdness too, as far as I can tell so far. Singer's a little too Steve Earle for my tastes, but "Rebels and Cadillacs" and "Devil Knows His Name" and "I Ain't Him" ["Him" being Jesus] and "Can't Hide the Tears" really kick:

(Oops, cdbbaby down now. Album is Pete Berwick, Last Train Outta Nasvhille. Also liking another new cdbaby CD, by a big-voiced gal named Shawna Corder. Especially liking "Real Good Time" and "Chevy Impala." She tries to reclaim "I Will Always Love You" for country, too, though I get the idea she grew up on Whitney's version rather than the Dolly one herself. I'll post links to these once the site is done doing its Saturday maintenance.)

Also wish I heard a fifth as much rock'n'roll on that new Stooges album as I hear in Neil Sedaka's new The Definitive Collection on Razor & Tie this morning, which is wonderful, way better than I would've expected. I've loved "Laughter In the Rain" and "Bad Blood" and "Breaking Up Is Hard to Do" before, but this album really makes the case for Neil as a great high-voiced pop-rocker. And the closer, "Junkie For Your Love," is diva disco!)

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 March 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, already! Pete Berwick:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/berwick2

Shawna Corder:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/shawnacorder

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 March 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

So far, the track I hate most is "You Can't Have Friends,"

Okay, the band rocks passably on this I guess. But Iggy makes it sound like a Jane's Addiction song, I just realized! I don't know if that's good or bad.

So far, though, nothing on the album except MacKay's sax has come close to kicking my ass. I don't know how much more time I should waste on it.

I am going to shut up about the Stooges album on this thread from now on, though, unless I notice country on it. Future comments: Metal thread only.

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 March 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

More Southern Ohio pretty-gal pop-country! (See also: Shawna Corder):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=48008592

Promo CD single has "I Break", which is first on her myspace page, and which is slow and not bad, at track #2, but much more importantly "Husband 2," which is fast and really great, at #1.

Also listening tonight to 2004 chitlin-circuit cdbaby soul (as in: everything from blues to disco to absolutely unabasedly schmoove-jazzed schmaltz) by Bobby Wayne; "This House is Haunted" sounds the best so far, but "Homestead Greys" (despite sounding curiously singer-songwriterly) rules by virtue of being the most blatant Negro League tribute I've ever heard:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/bobbywayne

And also also listening to the newly released soundtrack to the apparent circa 2003 German movie Schulze Gets The Blues, which compiles all kinds oof apparently unknown acts (Bobby Jones Czech Band! Jackie Callier & the Cajun Cousins! Brachstedter Musikanten! Zydeco Force! Chorgenmeinschaft 'Sang & Klang' Angerdorf! and draws the most explicit connections between
polkas-and-oompahs and zydecos-and-cajuns of any album I'm aware of; I can't find a track listing on line, but these pictures describe the mood nicely:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=schultze+gets+the+blues&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2


xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

Plot summary:

Schultze is a retired lignite miner living in an East German village and a passionate Polka musician on his accordion. One night he listens to a Zydeco tune in the radio, which changes his taste of music radically. Notwithstanding his complete ignorance of the English language he starts a trip into the heart of the Zydeco; to Louisana

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 02:33 (eighteen years ago)

"On The Drift" is Bobby Wayne at his most country; "Time" is Bobby Wayne at his most jazz; and "Dig Yourself" (basically a check yourself before you wreck yourself with some other woman advice-type song) is as good as "This House Is Haunted."

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

From the Joisy/Philly axis, not as "Tex-Mex" or "country-rock outlaw style" as his cdbaby page sez he is. Also way more ridiculous than he probably he thinks he is. Reminds me of Huey Lewis, for some reason. Just not as good:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/jimmielee5

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, I dunno, I'm kinda liking "Saloon Girl," actually -- has a real early '70s Top 40 soft-rock cheese feel. So I won't give up on Jimmie Lee yet.

From Arkansas (via Savannah, Georgia, where she apparently goes to college), seeming bubble-country potential, and some promising song titles ("The Dating Game," "Forever Green"), but something missing: Like tunes, maybe? Or more likely, production. Though her voice is too average, maybe:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/scoutfinch

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, there is some Tex-Mex in Jimmie Lee's sound! I spoke way too soon. "Hey Trina" could be the beginning of "Switchin' to Glide" by the Kings via Joe "King" Carrasco, almost, and it quotes "Steppin' Stone" and has early '60s style cornball Jersey/South Philly Italianate doo-wop backup falsettos. I dig it!! And "Steel Guitars And Whiskey" is really catchy too -- The guy has a way with a hook; no wonder he gets all those girls! I'm still not sure why he thinks his music is "country rock," but who cares??

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

(i.e., the "Hey Trina" chorus reminds me of when the Kings used to go "Hey little Donna, ya still wanna? You said to ring you up when I was in Toronta"; everybody remembers that one on good AOR stations back in 1979, right?)

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

And his "Homewrecker" sounds like "I'm A Girl Watcher" (who did that song?) as covered by George Thorogood, or somebody. (Maybe early '60s rock'n'roll is country rock by now? Plus he does sing about steel guitars and whiskey, and "Saloon Girl" = "Whiskey Girl," maybe? Why not?)

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, he does sound country-rock, in a way. But it's the '70s-pop everywhere there's signs messin up the scenery breaking my mind hitchin a ride gotta get me home to my baby's side she took me by the hand and we made love in my chevy van and that's all right with me kind--which I guess doesn't initally hit me as "country" or even "rock." Though of course it is.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 23:47 (eighteen years ago)

So ha, after all that (which nobody was paying attention to, apparently), I'd now call Layin' Down the Law by Jimmie Lee one of my favorite albums (or EPs, whatever: seven songs; runs maybe 22 or 23 minutes I guess -- perfect!) of the year. I like every song! And supposedly this is Jimmie Lee's dozenth album, or thereabouts! (Well, his cdbaby page actually says "'Layin' Down The Law' marks his 12th CD release this spring
of 2007," and I doubt he's really put out 12 different CDs this spring, seeing how spring is only a couple days old now, but I think I know what he's trying to say.) Though no doubt hiring a producer (David Ivory) who's produced Patti Labelle and Philly sleaze-rockers Silvertide before didn't hurt. But I like Jimmie Lee's attitude, too -- it's sort of like that one song I was talking about above on the new REO Speedwagon album that reminded me of Electric Six: Especially in "Homewrecker" and "Muscle Money and Glory" (an excellent '70s radio style hard rocker like nobody knows how to pull off anymore) this dude's what Dick Valentine only pretends to be. His apartment's very messy, he's got whiskers on his chin, he's gone on country music, and he always plays to win. (Actually, he's clean-shaven. But still.)

xhuxk, Monday, 26 March 2007 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

This thread done died? Again? Sad...

Shawna Corder cdbaby CD linked to above has basically three songs I like enough to probably want to hear again of ten: "Real Good Time," "Chevy Impala," "My Kinda Man" (who cooks her dinner). Don't mind "Home Run" (about running a home, I gather) or the "I Will Always Love You" remake, either. And some of the ballads certainly bust an impressive gut, vocal-wise.

Pete Berwick CD is better; just wish his singing wasn't so Steve-Earle-flat.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)

Great ambient.shoegaze.pop.psychedelic.rock.country record from Courtney Tidwell called Don't Let Stars Get Us Tangled Up. I love this record so much I want to take it out behind the junior high school etc.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

I ain't dead. Trying to finish up a couple particularly challenging pieces this week, and fighting a cold. Filed a profile of Rodney Atkins that oughta run soon, and I interviewed Pam Tillis yesterday, which was interesting. Just as I thought, she consciously made this record to sound like a 1973 Gram Parsons album. She's nice.
Got an LP copy of Buddy Emmons' Sings Bob Wills, from '78. Great playing from all involved, but he's not much of a singer. He's one amazing steel player, though.
The Cortney Tidwell record is real good. I wrote about her last month, saw her play in Nashville. She's opening some dates for Andrew Bird. She belongs on this thread; might've mentioned before that she's a real native Nashvillean--rara avis these days--and that her mother, Connie Eaton, was a minor country star in the '70s, as was her grandfather, Bob Eaton. What's interesting about her record, and a lot of stuff coming out of Nashville's indie scene, is how ten-years-ago it is, like her triphop moves, which I find somewhat unconvincing. (Hands Off Cuba, composed of some of her backing musicians, sounds just like Tortoise in 1997; Lone Official, ditto, sounds just like Pavement or the Sea and Cake or someone. These bands are all influenced by Pavement, and also by the Louisville/Chicago bands of, er, ten years ago.)

xps

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

A livejournal friend linked this the other day:

Dolly and Cher

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

Rodney Carrington's "Show Them To Me" = Not as good as "Boobs a Lot" by the Holy Modal Rounders. (He lost me at the word "funbags.")

Not feeling these guys, though their nation of origin (Norway) and their name (reminiscent of '80s Poguesalikes who I once owned an EP by The Men They Couldn't Hang) led me to have high hopes. But they just sound dull:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/tmtcs

Drawing a blank on so far: New CDs by Jack Ingram, David Lee Martin.

Haven't even put on yet: New CD by Gretchen Wilson.

Liking so far (but not quite country, at least so far): New CD by Mary Weiss.

Also liking so far (but only country in that it's crunk): New CD by Crime Mob.

xhuxk, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

Oops, his name's DANIEL Lee Martin. Apparently.

xhuxk, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I'm supposed to be writing about Mary Weiss but somehow her peeps won't send it.

still haven't found time to listen to Gretchen, or to this tribute to June Carter Cash I got, featuring the usual suspects: Costello, Paisley, Lynn, Billy Bob Thornton...

did attend to Southern Culture on the Skids' Countrypolitan Favorites. They actually kinda make me like them or at least not hate them (the band, not the mostly cool songs they choose to cover, like T. Rex' "Life's a Gas" and "Tobacco Road" and "Te Ni Nee Ni Nu," the latter which was covered far better by Alex Chilton). But it's still just kitsch and I don't see the point of their devotion. Yes, some of us live in houses and others live in trailers but we all share our martinis on Saturday night and then the most adventurous of us slip behind the barn for a snort of moonshine or crystal or Krystals (no cheese) or a girl named Krystal. Kinda tired shtick.

The Alternate Routes' Good and Reckless and True is a species of overstated country-rock; they also sound like a '90s band like the Gin Blossoms, guitar overload, a singer whose very self-involved tenor reminds me of Rufus Wainwright's (don't think they wear anything but jeans, and they're pictured on the CD cover at dusk silhouetted against the sky, but they do have a song called "California" which isn't as good as Wainwright's song of the same name). Some real nice dynamic shifts and pauses and they get off the occasional good line about how they wrote this song on the back of a coaster. Two or three really pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good songs (as Larry David might put it), and the whole thing is a mannerism. "Are You Lonely" does effectively balance a relatively dirty-sounding verse with an intriguing chorus. Pretty good. They seem like one of those bands who, if they'd just cut loose and get looser, would be even better, and I do like the way they simulate straining at the form. And to my ears they demonstrate the influence of that Mr. The Edge-style guitar non-chordal conception on country-rock, big heroic quarter notes and a cool harmonic ambiguity I wish they'd go further with.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and I felt good the other day talking to Pam Tillis, who was nice. My first thought about her new 'un was that it was a direct lift from those Gram Parsons records. First thing she said was that she was consciously emulating the sound and feel of GP and Grievous Angel. Has anyone heard her record of all Mel Tillis-associated songs she did a few years ago? I went back and listened to some of her '90s stuff like "Cleopatra, Queen of Denial." Pretty, pretty, pretty....

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

the mary weiss isn't particular country, but it is particularly good. not to sound like an old man or anything, but it puts all of the current "-ettes" bands to shame. fave songs so far: "stop and think it over," "i don't care."

fact checking cuz, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

liking a lot: tim mcgraw single "last dollar (fly away)," which sounds particularly joe walsh-y.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

The song I'm liking most on this Tim McGraw album is "Put Your Lovin' On Me." It sounds like it might be a typical "Hard Day's Night"-style song about getting' some good lovin' at the end of a hard workin' day, and it almost is. But there's something about the fact that it's about 70% sorrow and only about 30% sensuality that intrigues me. For somebody whose audience is predominantly female, McGraw is pretty good at picking these male angt songs, of which there are several more on the record.

Willman, Friday, 30 March 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

i went to a fundraiser tonite, for a xian ranch, with a singer, who was the worst hat act i had encountered yet, no modulation, fake drums, and mushy stories about the dead. shiver.

pinkmoose, Saturday, 31 March 2007 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

Just picked up a rentacar for a week-long road trip down through Delaware/Maryland/Virginia and back up, and gave cursory listens on the way back from Manhattan (where Avis is) to Queens (where my apt and luggage is) to both Jack Ingram and Daniel Lee Martin, and they were both sounding better than I expected. Ingram actually has more than a little squireely Tom Petty powerpop in his sound, and the Hinder-cover cheating song is okay enough that it makes me wonder if I should go back and listen to Hinder's version, and he does this funky Eagles-I-think-riff rocker where he replaces the word "fuck" with "love" all the way through. Martin's more the rugged outdoorsman, apparently, but I really like the rocker about the girl born into a family whose business is moonshine, and the outdoorsy anthem about why tall buildings in cities are why God made rivers, and the song about it depends which way you look at it with the dark hard opening riff that reminds me that Bob Dylan's "Hurricae" was pretty dark and rocking song, and the pastoral introduction to the John Denver cover which I haven't otherwise listened to yet. First few songs on post-Rancid Poguesalikes Filthy Thieving Bastards' new CD sounded promising too. So I guess I'll take all three of those on the road with me (along with enough other CDs to fill my carrying case.) Kings Of Leon, whose new album I decided didn't sound absolutely horrible but also didn't sound very good (lotsa Counting Crows in it, some early U2, some fake reggae, not a pinch of the Southern and/or garage rock people claim -- okay maybe a speck of Strokes?) will not make the cut.

xhuxk, Saturday, 31 March 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Didn't know there was a new Gretchen but thought her version of "The Midnight Oil" ruled the Mandrell comp, had Gretchen's force without her jabbing elbows. I also quite adore the Eurobosh rave happy hardcore make 'em mokum crazy neofreestyle or whatever it is remix of "Redneck Woman" which I assume is unauthorized and not on the new album or everyone would be swooning or sputtering over it already.

Only've heard the the MySpace tracks and 30-second clips of the rest of the Mary Weiss. Her voice has adult richness, but it also seems a lot more rigid than that of the wailing teen we formerly knew her as. Maybe this is a defensive reaction on my part when rehearing a former flame, to immediately think "Oh, it's not that good" - to get a jump on my own potential disappointment and therefore not really feel the disappointment. So I may take a while before reaching a balance in my appraisal, but I am disappointed. "Break It One More Time" does seem a strong song but weighed down by the singing.

Read in the NY Times that "Last Dollar (Fly Away)" was written by Big Kenny; think it would make more sense for him to have sung it. The words still throw me, maybe 'cause I want for something that evokes both "King Of The Road" and "Like A Rolling Stone" to simultaneously be footloose and care-worn, so an opportunity seems lost.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 April 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

that makes sense about "last dollar." I'm sorry, but I think it's one of the worst and most annoying songs I have ever heard. I'm not a Tim McGraw fan at all, find his voice dishonest and wheedling. And of course, I'm jealous he's got Faith...
catching up after a month, it seems, of stuff designed to keep me from doing what I need to be doing, which is listening to music. I did listen to the new Wilco, which is country-rock, right? I've never been a big fan, but it works. They imitate someone imitating Dr. John on one tune, and there are plenty of cool guitar solos and Tweedy seems to have a sense of humor about his moroseness. Still find myself unmoved by Elizabeth Cook's new one; "Sometimes It Takes Balls to Be a Woman" is kinda great, the cover of "Sunday Morning" is a good idea but I mean they should've done "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" off Loaded.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 2 April 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

The Alison Krauss alb is streamed over on the AOL Listening Party (but so's the new Timbo, so that's where my ears have been).

"What Light," the one song I've heard from the Wilco, makes me sneer at its dull thudding platitudes, and it needs something more tuneful/musical in the sound itself - I mean, it's designed so that you have no choice but to attend to the platitudes - but the singing is reasonably bearable and the playing good. (Haven't totally made up my mind about it, actually, since the platitudes touch on, like, real human issues.)

(Timbo just quoted Kurtis Blow's "The Breaks.")

Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

thanks for the tip on Krauss. as for Wilco, seems like Tweedy has developed some sense of humor about his sad-sack-ass life. his voice is full of self-pity, but someone knows how to construct music that's interesting. I swear, Sky Blue has moments where they sound like the Move, those big lumbering riffs and ridiculous drum fills, just like Bev Bevan on Shazam!. but a lot of the songs start off as strummy folk shit, and I thought, oh, god, this is awful, but then it turns into something else, they even do some twin-guitar moves. so I dunno, he took all his money and bought every Wishbone Ash record and sat around smoking better pot than we can get here these days.

and since I'm here, I thought I'd mention that the Mary Weiss record is a dog, retro, and the songs and the singing just lie there inert. terrible production values. she looks good, though, I mean she's nearly 60 and she don't look a day over 42, and she sounds exactly like Joey Ramone in drag.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 2 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

I don't mind the retro on the Weiss (interesting that she'd try to girl groupify a Yardbirds song), but I think you're right, unfortunately. There's some good songwriting, but her singing brings everything down. (Never was a Reigning Sound fan, either.) Maybe if she'd worked hard and resurrected her chops, or used Auto-Tune, this could have worked, 'cause the character of her voice is OK. And she used to sing in tune.

Btw, some very good singers from the original era had trouble staying in tune - Ronnie never had perfect pitch, and Shirley of the Shirelles could go way off - without this hurting their effectiveness. I wonder why it's sometimes a problem and other times not. Hard rock singers can often be good out of tune, but that doesn't explain how the sweet Shirelles managed it.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

Wrote this on the teenpop thread (in response to Greg's being puzzled by one of my American Idol posts):

"I Who Have Nothing" is nice - not close to being up there with Carrie covering Tiffany and sounding totally Carrie in doing so; but it was a good version of the song

Greg, I meant that Jordin's "I Who Have Nothing" was a good performance of a good song but not nearly the great American Idol moment that (at least on retrospective evidence from YouTube) Carrie Underwood's cover of Tiffany's "Could've Been" was. Carrie really nailed and wailed the song and made it warm and mature without losing its spark and sounded herself even while venturing off her usual country terrain. I've now listened to a whole hunk of Carrie's idol performances, and "Could've Been" and "Sin Wagon" are my two favorites; I like "Alone" too, which you linked above; she did a reasonable job on "Independence Day" but didn't deliver either the terror or self-righteousness; hard to run up against Martina McBride at her absolute best.

(Also, her song choice wasn't so docile. "Sin Wagon" was one that the Dixies hadn't dared release as a single; and I don't think that in early '05 it was clear that singing the Dixies wouldn't have potentially alienated people in Carrie's future fan base. I wonder if this was on her mind at all, and what the fact that she likes songs like "Sin Wagon" and "Independence Day" says about her, whether there's any kind of statement there. She sang "Goodbye Earl" on pre-Idol demos.)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I'm wrong, the Dixies' "Sin Wagon" was a single, but it flopped, stalled at 52 on the country charts, I'd guess because of radio station squeamishness.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Don't mess with Billy Joe Shaver.

Roy Kasten, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

http://community.livejournal.com/poptimists/342793.html

about the new brad paisley

pinkmoose, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 04:50 (eighteen years ago)

I joined in on the Paisley discussion over at Poptimists. I speculated that the song's genesis was Paisley listening to one of those bittersweet recalling-my-first-love teen idylls - "Strawberry Wine" and such, meadows and lakes etc. - and Brad rubbing his chin and musing, "What about insects?" I managed to bring in both Taylor Swift (backroads being the setting for sex, implication being that, 'cause she and her lover are teens, motels and homes aren't available) and meth labs (mom-and-pop operations get busted, leaving the field clear for outside interests - vicious big-time operators - to take over; this in regard to the urban-rural divide and the decline of the countryside).

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

my favorite thing on the new McGraw is probably "Kristofferson," about finding a note from a departed lover and then sitting down and writing it into a song, though it's hard to ignore the irony of it being Tim singing it when he's actually only written like, what, one of his own songs ever? "I'm Workin'" is also great, another topnotch Lori McKenna-penned cut, mostly I just how it avoids an obvious narrative approach and instead feels more stream-of-consciousness in describing the thoughts of a night-shift cop (though I guess it could be a paramedic or something too). I like the funkiness of "Between the River and Me," and "Whiskey and You" is pretty good too even if it's basically the same song as DBT's "Women Without Whiskey" though not quite as stellar.

JoshLove, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

Guys, sorry I haven't posted in so long. Haven't had much time, energy or attention span to spare, re anything country. But this microview of Elana James' s/t solo debut is up now. As Hot Club's E.Fremerman, she could be great, on this or that track, but the albums and live tapes I have are almost random virtuosity, on her part, and she's almost the whole story with H.C. After the Dylan stint, she's really learned how to sequence, and write: http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0714,various,76272,22.html

dow, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

This is probably the only place I can mention that Loudon Wainwright III's Strange Weirdos, the soundtrack to upcoming movie Knocked Up, produced by Joe Henry, is really cute and cutting in that LW3 way. Great guest guitar by Richard Thompson.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Edd on Stax50 and Eccentric Soul: http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0713,hurt,76168,22.html

dow, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

Great to hear about new Loudie, esp. w) R.Thompson again. I'm writing about Andrew Bird now, and he makes me think of Loudon and Rufus, though not so excessive as latter. Any thoughts on A. Bird, anyone? don

dow, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

Finally, one for those who do like or would like to like or like to like to like Keith Urban (more or at all):
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=653

dow, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

Don asked me about Bird before. Never heard the guy. So Mark Nevers produced his record, Don? Bird's playing here April 18 with Cortney Tidwell.
Cursory listen to the new Johnny Bush tells me it's something I'm gonna enjoy down the road. He's playing in N-ville May 26 with some of Ray Price's old Cherokee Cowboys, and 6 of the CCs are doing a panel discussion at Country Music Hall of Fame on Saturday, rare video and audio footage, that sort of thing. Not really enjoying much at this moment, since I chipped a tooth last night and I'm set for a visit to the dentist, not feeling too, er, chipper.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

Chipped a tooth during that all-night writing session, or was that the night before? Hope you're feeling better. As well as the Wainwrights, Bird is like early 70s Cale,re lyrics that can seem too knotty, but a great way with a melody and arrangements, often enough, even some pop smarts. Lots of music on his site, esp. live sets linked from archives.org, which I've really got to check for other artists. His site:
http://www,andrewbird.net

dow, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

dang, sorry! a comma instead of a dot, should be http://www.andrewbird.net

dow, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

My and other people's reviews of Wilco's "What Light" are up at the Jukebox.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 5 April 2007 04:26 (eighteen years ago)

Me and Martin talkin' (along w/ Josh and Blood and Jonathan) about Miranda Lambert's "Famous In A Small Town" over in Jukebox.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, back from the road (spent nights in Annapolis MD, Baltimore MD, Shepherdsville WV [Bavarian Inn on the Maryland border overlooking the Potomac!], Harrisonburg VA, Smithfield VA, Chincoteague VA -- more on some of those eventually); here's some real quick shorthand re: country-related stuff and other stuff discussed here listened to on the road, with more on these and more to come later too I'm sure):

Mary Weiss - decided I like the whole album and love none of it, though I do like some of it more than other of it. Most of the criticisms Edd and Frank have stated ring more or less true. Clearly her voice is not what it once was, though it's still....something. Also, she's no longer part of a group, which is probably an issue. And too much of the material tends more toward cabaret torch than girl group, I'd say. And yeah, Reigning Sound were never great to begin with. Though they're not bad.

Martina McBride- I give up on the new one. I called this "interesting" up thread; actually I said even more than that if you want to go back and check. Interesting to think about, I guess I meant. But after I wrote that, no other thoughts came to mind, and no other songs kicked in. Three or four songs are not bad, I guess. The single, "Anyway," is dull. Won't put the album in the sell pile, in case subsequent singles change my mind, but I am not counting it. Until it happens, album is in limbo.

Miranda Lambert -- Favorite song now on new album, which I still love, is "Dry Town," I think. "Guilty in Here" has an outside shot though. Maybe not as rocking nonstop as I thought at first. But close enough. I get Frank's concern about her taking one aspect of her debut and putting conceivably too much emphasis on it. But it was a great aspect! And the new rockers wail all over the new ballads.

Gretchen Wilson - As do hers. I like the new album. Real good rockers and fairly dull ballads, just like on her probably overrated debut and her probably underrated followup album. In 20 years, all three will seem more or less equal, I'm betting.

Neil Sedaka -- New best of drifts into showtune schlock for a couple songs in the middle, otherwise I still love most of it. Laleana said that all her life she'd assumed that a woman was singing "Laughter in the Rain" -- maybe Carole King, who it really sounds like. (Also, who had the hit with "The Immigrant"? It seems quite timely!)

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)

Filthy Thieving Bastards -- "Phony Drunken Poet" is a pretty great opener, but nothing seems to match it after that. Their ominviorousness rhythmwise (blues, funk, swing) is sort of impressive though.

Richard Thompson -- New album has too suprisingly great songs about the war ("Dad's Gonna Kill Me," "Guns Are the Tongues", the latter of which may or may not be about a 19-year-old Iraqi soldider to match the former's possibly 19=year-old U.S. one), plus a surprisingly great song about temptation ("Needle and Thread") and a surprisingly great dear John letter sea shantey about a couple who cheat on each other ("Johnny's Far Away"). Maybe I'd be less surprised if I didn't stop paying attention to the guy two decades ago, though. Am not surprised that there's also lotsa great guitar.

Daniel Lee Martin - Yeah, an outdoorsman, and kinda rugged, but also a sensitive Tim McGraw type. First riff on album is taken from "Freeze Frame" by J Geils. And he covers "Keep Your Hands To Yourself" by Georgia Satellites, as of other country acts before. What is it a country hit when it came out? I know it was a rock hit, but did it cross over?

Jimmie Lee - Okay, I overstated his case a little upthread. But it's still a really fun EP, I swear.

Pete Berwick -- Lacks a voice for slow songs. But his fast ones rock right through their platitudes. Best one is "Ain't No Train Outta Nashville."

Fountains of Wayne -- Never paid attention to them before. Liked them more than I'd have guessed. "I-95" is a pretty great song to drive on I-95 too. If the rest of the new album was as good as that one or "Michael And Heather At the Baggage Claim" or "Seatback And Tray Tables," I probably wouldn't mind that its powerpop lacks the energy of, say, the new Clorox Girls album. I wish they fleshed the sound out more, 10cc or Steely Dan style, like they do in "Strapped For Cash." Still, it's been a long time since I heard a Weezer or Nada Surf album this good. And for all I know, this could be their worst.

Jack Ingram - The adjective I called him before I left was "squirrely," when I compared him to Tom Petty I mean. He's just as often a Sean Mullins type soft rock sap, it turns out, but "Easy as 1, 2, 3" is very 1979 post-pub-rock new wave, and I love "Great Divide" and still love "Love You," and it's not hard to tell why people find "Lips Of An Angel" irresistible, though Ingram sings it lighter and way better than the Hinder dude, who I heard on the radio a couple times and still don't like much. (People at work seem to think Hinder are sleaze-metal throwbacks; is that because of their image or something? They just sound like more cheerless late grungers to me. On the other hand, I actually liked a Nickelback song I heard on the radio! It was called "Animals," I think, and reminded me of one of Stone Temple Pilots faster, catchier hits.)

The new Tim McGraw single about flying -- Still don't have a concrete opinion about this, or about his new album, which I've yet to hear though I hope to, but the one time the song came on the radio I thought whoever mentioned Joe Walshness in relation to it upthread had made a very good point. Which is to say, at least so far, I'd lean toward approval.

(Too sleepy to proofread everything I just typed, which was hardly "quick" I guess. Or "shorthand" either. Feel free to proofread yourself, however.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)

Damn, spelled my wife's name wrong! (And wrote "too" when I meant "two," among other gaffes.)

Both Lalena and I liked both of these, though:

Gabe Lopez -- Whole album is bilingual, though the first half leans toward English and second half leans toward Spanish. Both ways, the most blatant tejano/country crossover attempt I've hard in years; if Nashville wants to reach a Hispanic audience, he could very well be the guy, though his sound does tend a bit too much toward '80s countrypolitan, I guess. Two CD covers: One for country record stores and one for Mexican American ones, I guess. I prefer his Spanish singing, since the consonant sounds seem fancier. His post 9-11 song "Evil Wind" is pretty awful in any language, but otherwise, his big idea is on the right track:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/gabelopezmusic

Edible Red -- More new wave than country, I guess, but maybe more country than metal or teen-pop, and at least as country as Holly Beth Vincent I suppose. Either way, new album is solid. (I think I'd heard earlier demos, which didn't impress me as much; I wrote Voice choices about them, maybe, but kinda forgot them afterwards.) "2012" is seemingly an early '80s Rush tribute; that one and "At Hello" and "Better Days" might be my favorites. "Hey Ya" is an Outkast cover, and I'd never have recognized it as a cover of anything if not for the CD booklet:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=22167093

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

first half leans toward English and second half leans toward Spanish

Oh yeah, I didn't explain this -- First and second halves have the same songs! Just sung in different tongues. So the album's sort of a double EP, maybe.

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 03:13 (eighteen years ago)

Possibly semi-country oriented thrift store and junk barn purchases in Maryland and Virginia this week (entire list is on recent purchases thread):

Long John Baldry* - It Ain't Easy LP $0.50
Lindsey Buckingham - Law and Order LP $0.50
Jessi Colter - I'm Jessi Colter LP $1.00
Dave Dudley - Keep On Truckin' LP $0.50
Joe Hinton - Duke/Peacock Remembers LP $0.50
Horslips - The Man Who Built America LP $0.50
Horslips - Short Stories Tall Tales LP $0.50
Joy of Cooking - Castles LP $0.50
Lighthouse - One Fine Morning LP $0.50
Hilly Michaels* - Calling All Girls LP $1.00
John Miles* - Stranger in the City LP $1.00
Point Blank - Airplay LP $0.50
Joe Stampley - Red Wine and Blue Memories LP $0.50
B.W. Stevenson - My Maria LP $0.50
John Stewart - Bombs Away Dream Babies LP $0.50
BJ Thomas - Raindrops Keep Fallin On My Head LP $0.50
ZZ Top - Tres Hombres** LP $0.50
(Various) - Hey Love: The Classic Sounds of Sexy Soul triple-LP $0.50 (M'Press Records/Onyx Communications, 1986 -- never heard of this before!)

* - I know very little about these artists, but was curious

** - used to own these before; for some reason I stopped doing so somewhere along the line, but now I do again

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

heard the best of from billie jo spears, and i have no idea who she is,but from the 60s, i would guess,. her blanket on the ground is sexier, racier, and more honest then the ticks song, 35 years later,and mr walker its all over is a nice slab of femminist fuck you.

anyone know abuother

pinkmoose, Saturday, 7 April 2007 07:54 (eighteen years ago)

Nope, but she had a track (maybe the blanket one!) on an $2.00 LP comp called Country Crossovers that I was too cheap to buy in Smithfield. Maybe I should have. (Also, what "ticks song"?? I wouldn't expect ticks to be sexy, just kinda itchy.)

as of other country acts before. What is it a country hit when it came out?

as HAVE other country acts before. WAS it a country...

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 11:17 (eighteen years ago)

brad paisleys new super creepy lets fuck in the woods tune.

pinkmoose, Saturday, 7 April 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

Know nothing about Joe Hinton either (though the Rolling Stone record guide says his biggest hit was a cover of a country song, and compares him to Bobby Bland and Junior Parker, from which I conclude I was right to list him on this thread.)

Joy of Cooking cost $1, actually. Haven't checked to see if it's one of the albums that Xgau loved.

Donnas-like Nashville (and therefore eligible for this thread) myspace band whose demo EP has four okay songs on it that I wish were less generic:

http://www.myspace.com/atomicblonde

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

Filthy Thieving Bastards...ominviorousness rhythmwise (blues, funk, swing)

Also probably some polka rhythms of either the Slavic or Mexican variety or both; cf: Th' Legendary Shack Shakers (who are probably the better of the two bands) at least as much as Pogues.

I have plenty of thoughts, some of them possibly even coherent, about the spread of meth-lab-type culture out past the cornfields where the woods get heavy (or at least out past Sellersville in Bucks County and into Montgomery County, PA) which Frank alluded to in his Paisley ticks song comments, but I'll have to save them for when I have a couple free hours to formulate them; i.e., probably not in the next couple years. (On a related note, was reading Robert Lang's and Jennifer LeFurgy's Boomburbs: The Rise of American Accidental Cities a few weeks back, 'til I kinda got distracted.)

Xgau on Joy of Cooking (LP I bought gets an A-):

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=joy+of+cooking

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 12:26 (eighteen years ago)

AMERICA's Accidental Cities, actually

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 12:28 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, the Richard Thompson album is at least as omnivorous rhythmically (and melodically) as the Flithy Thieving Bastards one, if not more so -- everything from reggae to chamber classical to funk to blues to minor-key droning (almost goth metal really) to, in the song I thought might be about a young Iraqi soldier, a sort of middle eastern lilt to both the tune and RT's vibrato. And it never really seems like he's making eclecticism the main point; it's all in the context of his overall Brit-folk thing. (There are a few other performances, besides the ones I mentioned, that I like a lot on the album. Though there are also at least a couple songs where the performances seem so half-hearted that the attempts at cleverness come off annoying.)

Ingram... does this funky Eagles-I-think-riff rocker where he replaces the word "fuck" with "love" all the way through.

Actually, the riff isn't from the Eagles -- it's from Steve Miller ("Jet Airliner," I think.) Which is even better, Eagles riffs in Nashville country being probably somewhat old-hat by this point.

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

The maybe-middle-eastern-soldier one (where, no matter what nationality the soldier is, he is lured into battle to avenge the deaths of the brother and father of a a woman he's sleeping with; also, he is called "Little Joe"* because his head scrapes the ceiling, I think Richard explains it) also seems to include lyric puns on Suuni (as in "soon he") and maybe Shiite, though those might be my imagination.

*- or John or something

(Most annoying track, probably: "Mr. Stupid.")

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

And in "Bad Monkey," one of two songs on the album to discuss great apes, Richard says he's not going to go on the rollercoaster with you. The song is quite lively and boppy, a real bounce in its sound, but it makes me miss another amusemement park song by him from a quarter century (!!) ago, when he wanted us to take our chances on the Wall of Death.

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

One time thru the Tim McGraw record and I think it might be my 2nd-favorite big-label record of the year behind Macy Gray's Big. I know Edd is smarter and more knowledgeable than I am in just about every way but I disagree about McGraw's voice, I think at this point he might be the best male country singer and one of the best singers in the U.S. At least to my poor withered ears.

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 7 April 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Tim's easily one of the great singers of our time. (Though I've still yet to hear his new one.)

Also interesting on the Ingram CD: "Ava Adele," a spare lullaby, and the brassy closer "All I Can Do."

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

Some of the better tracks on that Todd Snider collection of demos etc (on Oh Boy) are written with and/or for Ingram, and somebody blindfold-tested me on some of Jack's own tracks, which I liked, past my initial dim view of him hitching a ride with the Robison brothers on a live album, and with Coe and other vintage bad boys, on a live CMT thang I prob dicussed on a prev Rolling Thread. Yeah, speaking of xgau ratings, he's always been pretty dependable on Thompson, too. I wanna get some of the live albums from his site, where he does "Genie In A Bottle" and "Oops, I Did It Again," which sounded just perfect for his faux-orientale lilt, when he did them live on the radio. Prob shouldn't call his voice that, more that he said he wanted to extend the UK folk tradion in its natural flow, so why not include Middle Eastern, since the Celts are thought to have come from there. And of course the French connection (he could also do Scandinavian, and every other group that's overrun England!) Really liked Jo-El Sonnier's hit version of "Tear-Stained Letter," and Del McCoury Band's h.v. of "1951 Vincent Black Lightning," or whatever year it was, and appropriate even if you don't like bluegrass. (I could do without Del's voice; my own bluegrass problem is usually with the male vocals). Appropriate cos it's one of the best motorcycle songs ever, incl. comin' round the mountain. Xgau's also good on Joy Of Cooking, all of who's albums are worth check ing out (they also did a good semi-reunion album, unlikely enough, as The Joy, mainly with Toni & Terry or Terri, who also billed themselves under own first names when recording with Nashville cats, to mixed results. Toni tried to go more mainstream country-pop with Good For You Too, but haven't heard that, and Terri or Terry Garthwaite did more folk-rock-reggae-blues-wah-wah stuff, not so typical in late 70s as now, esp. for designated folkies, although Joy were known for their congas etc as well as songs that might harsh your early 70s mellow, like about having babies in trailer parks; they seemed to represent their earlier lives in blue collar Bay Area as much as Berkeley feminists in ponchos etc)(good new Color Guard, xhux, but not country so I better mention elsewhere)

dow, Saturday, 7 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

("all of whom's albums"? Nah, "and all of their albums")And not that "Berkeley feminists in trailer parks" are nec. "just", point is that they rep. that with the bluecollar,not so common then, if it ever has been, musically, in convincing juncture)(if anything, the more collegiate lyrics were less convincing, rhetorical, so they were prob right to try Nashville and elsewhere, beyond the safe West Coast/p.c. collegetown clubs).

dow, Saturday, 7 April 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

"not that Berkeley feminists in ponchos" is what I meant to say that
I did not mean to low-rate, jeez. Also I prob misspelled the town's name, but back to homework (reviewing Eccentric Soul: Twinight's Lunar Rotation for PaperThinWalls)

dow, Saturday, 7 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

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this cannot be. it was the black 'freedom rock' for chrissakes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKu78xJ6g1k

i have both volumes btw(time life still sold it on cd up until a few years ago at least), simply indispensable.

tremendoid, Saturday, 7 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

wow wtf. er, i think i've made my point.

tremendoid, Saturday, 7 April 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

Okay y'all but I have just heard Los Tigres del Norte's new record called Detalles y Emociones and it's even better than I thought it would be. Great excellent protest song "El Muro," about the proposed wall between U.S. & Mexico, written by Cristina Rubalcaba, has a bunch of fire to it -- literally, they threaten to burn it down! Also, a great chanted chorus of "Bush, Bush, don't push!", lyrics in Arabic and French and German as well as Spanish and English, and explicit parallels to Palestine, Berlin, and North/South Korea!

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 7 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe moderators can fix that tremendoid post? (I'd always assumed that when ILM-ers do that they're just being assholes. But tremendoid's followup post suggests it was accidental, which is nice to know.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

yeah sry, afaik i just copied, pasted, and tried to italicize. it did give me one of the nu-xpost warnings, maybe has something to do with that.

tremendoid, Saturday, 7 April 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

Joy Of Cooking, all of who's albums are worth check ing out

Album I bought seems pleasant or better, though more for the instrumentation than for the singing (which generally hits me as merely tasteful to stodgy, but then I never really got Bonnie Raitt either) and the lyrics (which haven't really connected with me, and didn't the last time I tried with this band, I'm remembering). Instrumentation parts I like best are the ones that remind me of Quarterflash a decade or so early. In fact I swore I heard a saxophone on there, and some flutes (did Quarterflash have flutes?), though none seem to be credited anywhere. Either way, more folk-rock bands should feature congas, obviously. LP's nice enough. I'd just like it more if Marv and Rindy Ross were singing (and writing, and Rindy playing saxophone).

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of Marv and Rindy, maybe I should check these out? (News to me; I just googled their names).

http://www.trailband.com/meettheband.htm

http://www.ghostsofcelilo.com/team.html

This is weird, too, since I could have sworn Seafood Mama was their PRE-Quarterflash band:

http://pnwbands.com/seafoodmama.html

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 01:29 (eighteen years ago)

Also pleasant: The Lindsey Buckingham album I bought. Which is also way too reserved, and would be better if Stevie Nicks was singing. I gather it's supposed to be whimsical or something. Could also use way more guitar, oddly enough. It's fine despite its overweening preciousness, I suppose, but it's overweeningly precious nonetheless. Then again, I'm not one of those wackos who prefers Tusk to Rumours or Fleetwood Mac. My favorite track: "Trouble," the hit single (though "Johnny Stew" is a fairly cute "John I'm Only Dancing"-alluding falsetto disco-pop attempt).

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

(I guess thinking of it as "new wave era wackiness" might make it more tolerable, though. So I will.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

Neil Sedaka -- New best of drifts into showtune schlock for a couple songs in the middle, otherwise I still love most of it. Lalena said that all her life she'd assumed that a woman was singing "Laughter in the Rain" -- maybe Carole King, who it really sounds like. (Also, who had the hit with "The Immigrant"? It seems quite timely!)[/i}

From Geoffrey O'Brien's review of Ken Emerson's Always Magic In The Air: "So local do things get that when, for example, the vexed question arises of whether Sedaka and King actually went out together, it is like being dropped in the middle of a spat in a high school hallway, with Sedaka claiming that King was 'a Neil Sedaka groupie... she would neglect her schoolwork to write songs and chase me from bar mitvahs to weddings,' and King responding: 'I went out on [i]one
date with him!'"

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh poo; let's try that again

Neil Sedaka -- New best of drifts into showtune schlock for a couple songs in the middle, otherwise I still love most of it. Lalena said that all her life she'd assumed that a woman was singing "Laughter in the Rain" -- maybe Carole King, who it really sounds like. (Also, who had the hit with "The Immigrant"? It seems quite timely!)

From Geoffrey O'Brien's review of Ken Emerson's Always Magic In The Air: "So local do things get that when, for example, the vexed question arises of whether Sedaka and King actually went out together, it is like being dropped in the middle of a spat in a high school hallway, with Sedaka claiming that King was 'a Neil Sedaka groupie... she would neglect her schoolwork to write songs and chase me from bar mitvahs to weddings,' and King responding: 'I went out on one date with him!'"

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

Listening to the new Lance Miller single, "She Really Loves Me" (which is at least a month old, and I have no idea if there were previous Lance Miller singles or who he is really, and allmusic doesn't have much more than a date of birth (1970) and a tracklist)(oh, a quick Google search shows he's a Nashville Star alumnus). Anyway, a very good voice that sounds like it would have fit in 25 years ago (when he was 12!), like Gene Watson's now* or John Conlee's then, very broad and warm and chewable w/ a rueful twist to it. His woman suggests that he have a drink with the boys after work, that's fine with her, and she's stopped complaining about his strewing his laundry around the floor, etc. and this means either she really loves him or she don't really love him anymore: "But then I really hope/I ain't gettin' all this rope/Just because she no longer gives a damn." It's close to perfect, and the accompaniment would be called traditionalist, steels and acoustics and nary a synth or a rock drum, and it's fine, though a bit of unhappiness in the back of my mind is reminding me that this kind of singing back in its day wasn't traditionalist and so could have had plenty of disco or rock in its accompaniment. (Someone with more knowledge can correct me on this.)

*Gene Watson probably sounded like Gene Watson back then, too, and I presume sounded very good, but I have no idea, having heard so little of country music's past.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 8 April 2007 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

Hilly Michaels LP I bought is a more fun new wave era sideman going solo album than the Lindsey Buckingham album, I'd say. The cover is very colorful, not unlike the Dan Hartman Instant Replay album he'd appeared on two years before (before 1980, that is.) Dancey beats are stolen from Bo Diddley's "I'm a Man," Blondie's "Call Me," and some minor glam-rock hit I can't place, but in a coked-up bubblegum L.A. studio pop-rock context, I guess. Though maybe Hilly was from England, come to think of it. Producer is Roy Thomas Baker; guest contributions come from Greg Hawkes, Davey Johnstone, Ellen Foley, Karla de Vito, Liza Minnelli. G.E. Smith, and Dan Hartman, among others. Rolling Stone Record Guide gives it just one star, dismissing Hilly as a "jive new waver," a "finger popper in post punk clothing," but then again so is Lindsey, who they say sings like a '50s teen balladeer and who they give three stars. Lindsey does sing better, I guess. But Hilly has more energetic hooks to pull off the zaniness. (And less to do with country music, come to think of it.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 12:54 (eighteen years ago)

Long John Baldry on now. Big bad British blooze stompage! (The roots of Count Bishops, maybe.) (With Elton and Rod Stewart helping out, no less.)

Liner notes say he had a Brook Benton/O.C.Smith-type period, in the late '60s, before returning to blues-rock roots. Might be an era worth checking out, and definitely enough to qualify him for a country thread, right? I've never listened to him before, not even once. Song credits here (Tuli Kupferberg and Randy Newman as well as Willie Dixon and Huddie Ledbetter) suggest he's no purist.

Speaking of Brook Benton, first side of that Joe Hinton (who got compared to Brook) LP was great! Hit country cover was "Funny How Time Slips Away," with crazy high notes at the end. (My chronology here may be confused, but did Ray Charles's early country crossover success inspire many proto-soul singers to make country moves? If so, who else?)

B.W. Stevenson does crazy high notes, too, by the way. I never had any thoughts about him before, either. Rolling Stone Record Guide calls him folk-rock (and likes him), but I'd be just as likely to classify him (just like BJ Thomas and maybe John Stewart by the way) as soul-country, though maybe that's only because Brooks and Dunn's cover of "My Maria" convinced me? (Whose version was bigger? And am I wrong, or did Three Dog Night or Blood Sweat and Tears or somebody have the bigger hit with "Shambala"?) Anyway, B.W. looks quite scraggly, even kinda scary, on the album cover, which makes me appreciate Brooks and Dunn's embracement of him more -- he looks like he should be a stoner rock band, or I dunno, looks like Rick Rubin or somebody. And a track or two sound like David Allen Coe. (Maybe "Sunset Woman," written by Dave Loggins, who I wonder if anybody has any thoughts about, come to think of it? "Please Come to Boston" is such a great song. His '72 Personal Belongings album seemed pretty decent too, last time I listened, in a Gordon Lightfoot type beautiful loser who can't settle down way.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

John Stewart by the way

The John Stewart who did one of my favorite songs ever "Gold" with Stevie Nicks (and used to be in the Kingston Trio, right?), not the more recent one on TV, that is. And I mean the album with "Gold" on it (or parts of it anyway) is sort of soul-country. I assume his Kingston Trio era stuff was less so.

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Dullest track on that Baldry LP: "Flying," 6:50, witten by Rod Stewart, Ronnie Lane, and Ron Wood, with gospel parts. Fortunately, it's at the end.

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Long John Baldry on now. Big bad British blooze stompage! (The roots of Count Bishops, maybe.) (With Elton and Rod Stewart helping out, no less.)

origin of elton john's name: he took elton from baldry saxophonist elton dean, and he took john from baldry himself.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 8 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Lalena on B.W. Stevenson: "Who's this grump?" Then, a little later: "He looks like a hippie but sings like a country guy."... He mostly sings in a David Allen Coe baritone, but in his two biggest (only?) hits "My Maria" and "Shambala," over hints of Latin percussion to maybe match their titles, he reaches way up into the big sky with high lonesome Western (maybe even Mexican) falsetto notes. Interesting.

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

John Stewart, on the other hand, looks like Gary Shandling! One thing that's really impressive (though maybe not so surprising if you've heard "Gold") about Bombs Away Dream Babies is how strong -- almost disco -- the beat on so much of it is. Best songs after "Gold" -- "Midnight Wind," which is great, then probably "Over The Hill" -- have a dark witchy woman propulsion that proves once and for all that Fleetwood Mac helped invent goth rock. (How was Stevie Nicks left off that list of Kate Bush influences on that best-woman-singer-of-the-'80s thread a couple weeks back? It's so obvious.) Stevie's only on "Gold" and "Midnight Wind," though Lindsey's on four cuts, including "Over The Hill" and the very dance-soft-rocky "Heart of the Dream," and you can tell.

Henry Gross's "Moonshine Alley" on Release (which I bought cheap a few months ago, see way upthread) is way better than Daniel Lee Martin's "Moonshine Mama" (which I still like.) The Gross song is more a backwoods murder mystery, like CDB's "Legend of Wooley Swamp" or Warrant's "Uncle Tom's Cabin," and sounds spooky enough to pull it off. Then, good dance rock on Side Two, after the hit "Shannon" -- "One More Time," more disco than any country would dare nowadays, and "Something In Between"'s boogie woogie rock starting out like "Spirit in the Sky." Like so much in the '70s, sounds fearless and effortless at the same time.

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

(Though "Something In Between" does start to drift into the kind of boogie woogie mush only muddy Deadheads could dance to after a couple minutes, I guess--also like so much in the '70s, which is part of the problem, no doubt. Otherwise, Gross imitates Elton better than John Miles, who does it okay.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

BJ Thomas, "Little Green Apples": White soul-country guy deftly covers huge hit by black soul-country guy, making what I assume must be the most minstrel-music-worthy line in any chart-topping hit in the past several decades ("when myself iz feelin low") seem even more blackface. Still sounds great regardless, of course. (He also does "This Guy's in Love With You," "Suspicious Minds," "Guess I'll Pack My Things" [who made that one famous? I was thinking it must be Charlie Rich; it's somebody I was listening to recently, but it's not on Rich's reissue CD, hmmm..], assorted Jimmy Webb and Joe South numbers whose titles don't look familiar, and of course "Raindrops Keep Fallin On My Head," which is pretty great even though as a kid I may well have hated it as much as "Candy Man" by Sammy Davis Jr [which may have had minstrel leanings of its own, come to think of it.]) (And I just now realized that I don't know if I've ever heard BJ's "Rock and Roll Lullabye," which critics have forever sworn is genius. Is that possible? Or maybe I've heard it and I just forget what it's like?)

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

Joe Stampley Red Wine and Blue Memories, 1978. Solid honky-tonk for drunks. Two best songs seem to be the first one--the title track--where a woman propositions Joe in a bar and he'd rather just keep drinking, and the last one, "Houston, Treat My Lady Good," where he loses his woman to the big city and people keep calling for her on the phone and he tells them that maybe she'll be back tomorrow even though you know she won't. I also really like "Hey Barnum and Bailey," where Joe calls himself a clown -- didn't either he or Moe Bandy have another song where whichever one called himself a rodeo clown? They were pretty clowny, with ridiculous toons like "Hey Moe (Hey Joe)" and the immortal "Where's The Dress." But apparently sometimes they were sad clowns, too.

"Hubba Hubba" by Billy Crash Craddock appears to be explicitly about cunnilingus. But I'm not positive about this and may have heard a couple lines wrong (especially the line that sounds like "giving head"), and can't find the lyrics on the Internet. But if it is, it'd give the Brooks and Dunn song about going down in memory town a run for its money.

Pam Tillis Above And Beyond The Doll Of Cutey, 1983: Promised I'd get to this, and today (last day of my vacation before returning to work, sigh) I finally did. Definitely a pop new wave album, not a country album. Hiccupping vocals over hiccupping synths (not a lot of either, but enough to get by). Like Pat Benatar in Lene Lovich mood, though probably more like Sue Saad or somebody (except not so rock, except maybe in "You Don't Miss".)...Oh wait, I know who it sounds like!
The Motels. Martha Davis, right? According to AMG (their country guide book; I assume on line too), Pam had fronted a jazz-rock band named Freelight in the late '70s; then she returned to Nasvhille in 1979 and wrote r&b songs for people like Gloria Gaynor and Chaka Khan. Then this lively new wave move with the weird title that means...who knows? Then no country album for a while after, I gather. (Now she'll segue nicely into the two Josie Cotton albums I found for 50 cents last week, won't she?)

T.G. Sheppard, I Love 'Em All, 1981. Bought this last summer; really wanted to like it, wanted it to be as cheesy and silly as its cover, where studley T.G. is being mobbed by all the fawning lipsticked ladies he loved before, but sadly it's a snooze. ("Silence On the Line" is okay, I guess, but not in a cheezy way, and not enough to justify keeping the thing.) I still want to investigate the guy more someday, though, since "War Is Hell (On the Homefront Too)" is one of my all-time favorite dance-country songs, and there's still time for a cover version. (I've heard it only on a K-Tel comp.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

I'm trying and not succeeding in remembering if I once took that John Stewart album out of the library back in my NYC days. Singing with the Kingston Trio Stewart's voice was gravelly; my guess is that Johnny Cash would have been a powerful influence on this.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 9 April 2007 01:41 (eighteen years ago)

"Gold" is so great – is a mainstay at supermarket Muzak stations across the country.

The Lindsey Buckingham album I bought. Which is also way too reserved, and would be better if Stevie Nicks was singing. I gather it's supposed to be whimsical or something. Could also use way more guitar, oddly enough. It's fine despite its overweening preciousness, I suppose, but it's overweeningly precious nonetheless. Then again, I'm not one of those wackos who prefers Tusk to Rumours or Fleetwood Mac. My favorite track: "Trouble," the hit single (though "Johnny Stew" is a fairly cute "John I'm Only Dancing"-alluding falsetto disco-pop attempt

I haven't heard this in years, but I remember it disappointed me: I was expecting a really weird McCartney solo album and instead I got tracks that are rather more conservative than his Tusk tracks.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 9 April 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

(commercial for Talledega 500, I think, in the next room: crashing into the stands? Maybe it's another whack Geico auto insurance commercial?)(but nice contrast with gentle soundtrack: Willie's contemplative western swing cover of ZZ Top's "She don't love me, she just loves my automobile," but no complaints cos she makes nice to him to get next to his wheel--it's from that Top trib I reviewed in Voice with the Charlie Daniels overview, "Sharp Blessed Men" the title, contrasting Top & friends' basically no-complaints Texasentializm with CD's high-strung jazz-rock-country flight to freaked-out fundamentalism--lifers vs. lifers, although not "vs." musically, since CD cranks Top covers pretty awesomely himself, in concert) Lindsay can get very wound up in concert, with Mac or solo. Although, on CMT's Crossroads, Little Big Town didn't spark each other very much, much less help him. Maybe he should always record his solo albums live, but of course he's the studio wizard etc. Someday I'd like to burn together a Great Lost Fleetwood Mac album, with the best and most compatible tracks from L.B., Stevie, Christine, Mick Fleetwood's Zoo, although I've only heard the latter very live, no idea how they were in studio.

dow, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 05:08 (eighteen years ago)

Me and Martin talkin' (along w/ Josh and Blood and Jonathan) about Miranda Lambert's "Famous In A Small Town" over in Jukebox.

"famous" is the leak of the day on idolator.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

This bubblecountry's gal's self-released CD is sounding excellent so far. (Frank really needs to check this album out, I think.) Favorite track so far is the title track, "What U See," absolute Miranda Lambert hard rock with a "Smells Like Teen Spirit" riff; after that so far "Colours" (where she's looking for something in red gray pink yellow orange and bright green chartreuse) and "Butterfly Tattoo" (where dad's gonna kill her if mom doesn't first and nothing says she's 17 like breaking loose -- though actually she's just 14, apparently)--both songs sound really pretty too.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/brandieframpton

xhuxk, Friday, 13 April 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

new tribute to June Carter Cash Anchored in Love has some pro forma moments--cheezoid harmonica and offhand Willie-isms during "If I Were a Carpenter" (sounds like he's smoking a joint and admiring Sheryl Crow's gams during the performance, plus this song needs to be retired until after the magnetic poles reverse back in a few years). "Jackson" w/ Carlene Carter and Ronnie Dunn isn't bad. D.P. McManus shows up on "Ring of Fire"--he keeps trying to sing right but I never think he does it, I have a real aversion to his voice these days. Billy Bob Thornton does pretty good--he just talks-- on "Road to Kaintuck." Basically this is some canned shit--go back to the original June Carter Cash records and you'll find a really underrated singer.
Repeated listenings to Miranda Lambert's record convince me it's some kind of masterpiece. She really sounds like she could take care of any situation--she could probably fix the transmission she complains about in "Dry Town." The sound effects are just amazing. I'm impressed by the way she handles Susanna Clark/Carlene Carter (Routh)'s "Easy from Now On." Flawless record.
And if you want to know how Nashville once did the kind of "fusion" that now is dominated by bluegrass/stringband-meets-studio-rock, with nifty instrumentals, the newly reissued Minors Aloud by Buddy Emmons and Lenny Breau is pretty instructive. Breau spent time in Nashville giving guitar lessons and apparently doing lotsa drugs, died in '84 or so maybe 42 years old. He did some stuff with Chet Atkins here. He was the missing link between jazz guitarists like Tal Farlow and someone current like Bill Frisell or Stanley Jordan. They do Charlie Parker's "Scrapple from the Apple," and Emmons is a wonder. His work with Ray Price alone makes his place in history--check out the album Night Life. Anyway, in 1978 they did Parker when they wanted to Outreach, now it's some pseudo-Celtic bullshit, and you can guess what I prefer.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 13 April 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

John Prine and Mac Weisman, Standard Songs for Average People. Boy, this is just so pretty, and I love the way they do Kristofferson's "Just the Other Side of Nowhere." Perfect blend of good humor and a real sadness underneath it all, as on that song. A lot like the Jack Clement record of a couple years ago, Guess Things Happen That Way, but they sing better than Clement, who's on this one and apparently was the inspiration for them to cover Al Dexter ("Pistol Packin' Mama") and "Sagninaw, Michigan" and Bob Wills and Cindy Walker's "Don't Be Ashamed of Your Age." Weisman cuts Prine's somewhat dry but to my ears just extremely funny vocals. Nice and camp-free.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

"Saginaw, Michigan"

And Chuck, they do Tom T. Hall's "Old Dogs, Children and Watermelon Wine" really nice, too.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

in 1978 they did Parker when they wanted to Outreach, now it's some pseudo-Celtic bullshit, and you can guess what I prefer

But my favorite track on the Miranda is pseudo-Celtic bullshit. (But it's not pretending to that kind of reachout.)

Heard first track on the Brandie Frampton and thought Xhuxk was deluded. Next two turned me around. Don't have time to listen to the rest tonight.

Don, there are three new songs up on Hope Partlow's MySpace.

And - not that it's country (goth agony woman-scorned rock, actually) - but there's a new song up on this woman's MySpace, too.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 14 April 2007 03:12 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Edd, oddly enough, here's what I wrote about that album on this thread two months ago; got tired of trying to like it pretty soon after:

John Prine "& Mac Wiseman (okay, I guess I'd like just about anybody singing "Old Dogs, Children and Watermelon Wine" and "Saginaw, Michigan" and "Pistol Packin' Mama," and these old geezers sing them real purty I suppose, but most of the other songs aren't that good and even the ones I love don't make this any less pointless I don't think);

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 03:24 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I like the Prine/Weisman fine--great early-evening music. I guess the comparison would be with Bare's Moon Was Blue. Jack Clement told me sometime back that his big ambition was to do an entire record of old dance tunes done in his usual strange way, and perhaps this is what he was sort of talking about.
speaking of covers, I am overwhelmed by this new The Sandanista Project I finally got around to listening to about half of last night. The best thing on it so far is Wreckless Eric doing "The Crooked Beat," but there are some country performers here, like Jason Ringenberg and Kristi Rose doing "Ivan Meets G.I. Joe" and the Coal Porters "Something about England." Amy Rigby, and Sally Tims and Jon Langford, who should get an honorary barstool at Tootsie's at this point. But some of it strikes me like revisionist retro, and 37 songs means I'm about as likely to get thru it all as I was the original Clash record--in fact, was that one any good? I can't remember any more.
and, I recommend The Very Best of Wynn Stewart 1958-1962. Honky-tonk morphing into rockabilly and then gettin' scared off or something, and the piano part on "Long Black Limousine" is weirder than the similar piano parts I heard last night on the new Animal Colletive EP.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 14 April 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

Animal Collective. And boy, I've got the Wynn Stewart on right now. Got to be one of the most underrated country singers ever.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 14 April 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

Southern rapper Rainman does a song called "Country Girl" with Lil Flip on his new album, but it doesn't sound very country; he also does a song with David Banner called "I'm a Hustla," but that one doesn't sound country either. The first one is better than the second one, I guess, and neither is as fun as "Mr. Dougboy", where Rainman alludes to nursery rhymes like "Pattycake Baker's Man" and "The Gingerbread Man." A whole album of tracks like that song would be okay, but this isn't it. "Ghetto Gorilla" is kinda goofy, maybe. "Stop The Train" sadly does not seem to reference Scotty's "Draw Your Breaks" (which is to say it is not in the tradition of certain old Shinehad or Beastie Boys tracks, either.) So I dunno, despite Rainman's goofy name and the goofy photos of him on the album cover, I'm gonna pass on this one I think. At least I got to it before I got to Paul Wall's or Timabaland's new albums (and before I returned to Crime Mob's new album, which seemed okay when I listened to a few tracks a couple weeks ago, but which is now apparently a post-Imus Right Wing target for its reported offensiveness that slipped right by me, I think I heard.) Then again, who knows, my hip-hop hearing abilities may well be shot, so who knows? I still think that Rich Boy album is just fine, despite Jess Harvell, I think it was, calling it "shitty shitty shitty" in the Baltimore City Paper, I think it was, when I was driving through their week before last. I'm still not sure what people have against that album. Give or take a couple compilations, it's the only hip-hop album I've made it through this year.

Speaking of rapping, I didn't get much beyond Iron City Joe Gruschecky's embarrassing stab at "Magnificent Seven" on that Sandinista! tribute. The few tracks I did track through (including "The Leader," which was the original's most Joe Ely-as-opening-act-worthy track, wasn't it?) were awful, so I gave up quick. And yeah, I'm somebody who likes the original album a lot, Edd -- the Clash's fourth best (easy to remember since their first album was the first best, their second album was their second best, and their third album was their third best, on and on ad infinitum.)

The Prine/Weisman thing just ultimately hit me as bland folkie revivalism, minus the exotic open space that made that Bobby Bare album (which I still have big reservations about) a keeper. Then again, it's not like I've ever been the world's biggest Prine fan. And I already forget who the other guy was. (And some of the exoticness of that Bare album was just space age bachelor pad kitsch.)

No use for Animal Collective. Even their earlier weirder noisier records, which I kept for a few years, are outta here by now. Never got the appeal of their later attempts at being a pop-song band.

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

(Corrections: "Driving through THERE." "Mr. DOUGHBOY." And pretend I only said "who knows" once, okay?)

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

"Draw Your BRAKES." (Etc.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

"What U See," absolute Miranda Lambert hard rock

Okay, well, she doesn't have Miranda's voice. Which makes a difference, obviously, but then again almost no one has Miranda's voice, and no way am I deluded about this track's rockingness. I don't think. Frank will probably suggest Brandie try "auto-tune," but when people need to be auto-tuned is not something I ever notice (didn't notice it with Mary Weiss or Leanne Kingwell either), and my inclination is to believe that, just like Frank is one of the only people on earth to underrate Funkadelic, he is also one of the only people to overrate autotuneness. Not that I would know, really. (Also not sure which Miranda track Frank's referring to as containing pseudo-Celtic bullshit. I do agree, though, that Celtic bullshit is often fun.) (Especially on punk and metal records, maybe.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

"Dreams" also real good on that Brandie Frampton record. (Interesting cascading melody to that one; recalls some non-country pop oldie I can't place.) ("The Way It Is" by Bruce Hornsby maybe?? Hmmm...)

bland folkie revivalism, minus the exotic open space

Guess I just mean that I wish there was more music in the music, other than two old guys just singing. (But then, it's been several weeks since I put the thing on, so I could be completely offbase by now.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

yeah. good on the clash, chuck. although I like plenty of their later stuff like on combat rock. I would rate london calling over give 'em enough rope myself. for that matter, I love the stuff on the cost of living ep more than almost any of it. as for pseudo-celtic--yeah, it can be fun when the group's not taking it too seriously I guess. not a mode I relate to in general.
listened to the new amy lavere record again. it's cool because it's just all over the place--convincing funk, blues and country of a sort. conversational lyrics that are often charming. don't get a huge sense that she has much of anything to say or write about other than maybe she's broken up with somebody lately and she worries about being a bad girl in the past, not that those aren't valid subjects. nice enough record.
so, the miranda lambert song I come back to is "famous in a small town," which strikes me as real honest and bullshit-free on a very hackneyed subject, and to my ears the music itself is a perfect balance between the usual overkill (massed guitars, eagles-like "oohs" in the bridge, break it down with a hi-hat before killing it at the end as she anticipates burning rubber on the weekend) and something more, shall I say it, "personal," felt even, like she's maybe even thought about the trope, and as on the whole record the drummer is sort of crazy. man I like this record.
and I mean prine and weisman is a bit folkie and revivalist, and since I am not crazy about mary weiss I suppose I should apply the same standards to john prine (who I am a fan of, in a way--I do like his voice, reassuring somehow). it's the same thing I go back and forth with on any number of records right now--is it retro, what is it, and in the case of some country stuff I'm writing about now I have this feeling that everyone might be happier just admitting their ambition to be rich and famous or something, know what I mean? just get it off your chest. prine and weisman have nothing to prove, and I guess neither does mary weiss--or does she? as for bare's moon was blue, I like it and it probably does partake of bach-pad kitsch a bit. as far as a nevers production goes, I still think his louvin record is a minor masterpiece and the lone official record is great--even given the fact that on both of 'em the singer might give some listeners, perhaps chuck among them, fits.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 14 April 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

new amy lavere record

First impressions:
1. I wish she didn't have such a little girl voice.
2. I wish her music's attempt to be moody didn't detract so much from her songs connecting as songs.
3. She does a washing machine song that sort of sounds like a washing machine! (See also: Electric Eels, Five Royales, Traffasi, Pretenders.) Cool!

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

But as spring 2007 laundry-rock goes, Hilary Duff's new "Dreamer," which opens with her at the grocery store than picking up her clothes from the cleaners, is way way better.

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

Or somewhat better, anyway. The powerchords in Lavere's "Washing Machine" give it a real push (though when they shift into blues-rock stodge the song also threatens to turn into mere moodiness. On the other hand, the mood has some meat to it! And the melody has some of that old disco song that goes "think about you all the time, never let out of my mind" in it...who the hell was that? Donna Summer?? Not Minnie Ripperton's "Lovin You," right?)

(Favorite tracks on Hilary Duff album so far, fwiw, since I brought it up: "Dignity," "Danger," "Gypsy Woman," "Never Stop," "No Work All Play," "Between You And Me," "Dreamer"...which is, um, half of the album. The rest might even be better, time'll tell. Disco pop with trouble lurking in the background.)

And okay, Lavere track #6 is a cool polka two-step. Nicely pulls off the Slavic-rhythm Americana trick.

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

old disco song that goes "think about you all the time, never let out of my mind" in it...who the hell was that?

Diana Ross. "Love Hangover." (Duh.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

Edd I really like The Sandinista Project a lot, but I also really like the original album a lot too. I was very trepidacious of the alt.countryism of it all at first, I actually talked shit to the publicist about the whiteness of the participants. And I really don't like Camper Van Beethoven. But I love it after all, "The Magnificent Seven" is a lot more lovable the third time through, Stew's contribution is really weird and cool -- OMG A BLACK GUY -- and I like listening to it while driving.

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 14 April 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

more cdbabies:

Sometimes vaguely Blasters-like rockabillies not half wild or well-sung enough to justify the retro:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/finnsharks3

Surfbillies, more energetic if not always more able vocally; in fact sometimes the guy talks rather than singing, and the Deadhead moments make me nervous. "Last Bottle of Wine" is an okay "Secret Agent Man" rip, though, and "Aztec GTO (Boss Version)" has party voices and girl chants and hot-rod rev-ups inching it towards early B-52s territory. Also, EP-length seems about right so far.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/tmrcreckoning

Popabilly gal; starts with yet another one of those always trusty "Girls Night Out" numbers (subtitled "Wanna Grab A Drink," contains a warm chuckle and a warm harmonica part); has at least one other great track in "You Better Leave Billy Alone," about a quiet kid at school who eats lunch by himself but gets revenge on a bully with "loud mouth, hi hair...retro '80s spikes...drove a loaded Hummer." Haven't listened to this much yet, but I'm really liking what I'm hearing so far. Easily the best (also least consciously "alt") of these three.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/tracydelucia

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

Yikes! Amy LaVere's inexplicably skinny-voiced and not-all-that-much-less-skinny-grooved attempt at funk "People Get Mad" just forced me to replace her in the CD changer with the new American Dog album.

And the Michael Ray Cain Reckoning's recited-like-Jello-Biafra preacher homily "Faith Train" may well force me to do something similar next time it comes up. They're starting to remind me a bit too much of all that Mojo Nixon crap I hated back in the day.

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, chorus of first American Dog song to come up: "Sometimes you eat the pussy, sometimes the pussy eats you...you know it's true." (With Nugent riffs, so okay, they're more metal thread material.)

What the heck though:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/americandog6

xhuxk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

If I'd heard it any time in the last 20 years I might make the argument that Sandanista is better than London Calling (though I love "Brand New Cadillac" and the title tune on the latter).

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

But as I do with Funkadelic, I'm may be one of the only people to underrate London Calling.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:56 (eighteen years ago)

fwiw (and just to even things out a little), "Kid" by Michael Ray Cain Reckoning (good sangin' and twangin' and a tasty melody) > "The Rose" by Tracy Delucia (I never even wanted to see the movie.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 April 2007 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

"People Get Mad" on the Lavere record is just embarassing. But the rest of it has a light touch with swingy country that I like, and the opening song, "Killing Him (Didn't Make Her Love Go Away)" is rivetting. And I love the Dylan cover at the end. I also don't find her voice all that little girlish--at least not by current indie standards.

Roy Kasten, Sunday, 15 April 2007 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

"Miracles Begin" by Tracy Delucia, exlplicity pro-disco semi-billy: "When I was a young girl, listening to the radio, Rondstadt, Whitney, Donna Summer, and a little Billy Joel." (Her cdbaby page also says she was once a huge Mariah Carey fan.) Both this song and "Hands of Time" also talk about being a mom, and sound nicely lively about it.

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 April 2007 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

"Return Of The Magnificent Seven" is verbose, like many songs on Sandinista!, but Grushecky and most others on The Sandinista Project connect with the vitality, especially rhythmic, in those songs. "Return" gets itchy and scratchy, 'til the guitar cuts loose for a while, over that beat. And there's lots of good country, and countrytronica, and Sally Timms and Jon Langford do good offhand country dub on "Version Pardner." You're really missing some fun, xxhuxx.

dow, Sunday, 15 April 2007 05:18 (eighteen years ago)

I can't remember if Roy said he's seen LaVere live but she's totally different--her records somehow edge away from what she does best, which is strictly rockabilly or something like it. Her collaborator, Paul Taylor, has made a record that is like out-of-it powerpop--very muso, very accomplished, kind of a modern Todd Rundgren one-man-band record without the vocal chops. But Taylor is an amazing musician. I too like the closing Dylan cover and her voice doesn't bother me--my take is that she's not being stretched enough and that she's a very strange songwriter who needs some sort of context Jim Dickinson and cohorts might be too set in their ways to devise for her. But she is indeed cool live, and of course extremely easy on the eye--sexy.

Reading the Johnny Bush autobiography. Really gives a sense of how difficult it was for him to compete in the very competetive world of Texas country in the late '50s, and pretty fascinating account of how he struggled to master the Ray Price shuffle beat. Great portrait of Willie Nelson in his early days, one anecdote finds the whole band smoking weed and Willie walks by and says, no thanks, that stuff gives me a headache. Bush took opera-singing lessons after he lost his voice to a somewhat rare affliction that caused him to basically be unable to sing or even speak loudly. And he describes Nashville in the early '60s, when Bush lived in town, as a place where there was nothing for a musician to do if he wasn't on the road--no openness compared to his San Antonio days. Well written enough--transcribed--and nice.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 15 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

A Taylor Swift outtake (or demo), "Come In With The Rain," is downloadable from the Rashid115 blog (scroll down the page). The rip is low quality, but the singing and song are good, gentle sadness, which she does oh so well. "I leave my window open/'Cause I'm too tired tonight to call your name/Just know I'm right here hopin'/That you'll come in with the rain." (I like the phrase "in with the rain" for not quite being a metaphor, just accompanying the sorrow that's there, whether the guy shows or not.)

Here it is on YouTube.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 15 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of youtube, this link just came in from Anthony Easton. War is hell on the homefront, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cAChVVVZaM

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 April 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

The talked part on the Michael Ray Cain Reckoning maxi-EP CD grew on me a little, in a sort of J. Blackfoot/Marty Stuart (on his Native American history album) kind of way, though lighter than either. I guess he's maybe trying to do a Dylan (or Waits?) (or, in "Good Destruction," Barry McGuire?) type thing. Doesn't really pull it off, but I kind of like how his ragged talking voice sounds, except when he goes into Jello mode at the start of "Faith Train," and even that one later builds to some good boogie woogie. (Even his singing is mostly talk-sung, though oddly the one time his singing hits emotional paydirt is when it drops into the sort of goth guy doing Johnny Cash low notes I usually hate in "Kid," then lifts back up and then the guitar twang lifts up higher. "Last Bottle of Wine," which I also like, has a gothabilly edge to it too, come to think of it; his "hyaaah! interjections remind me of Dale Watson in that one.) In the end, not bad.

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

(talked parts, actually. plural.)
(and by "goth guy" i mean "andrew eldritch," maybe.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

there's lots of good country, and countrytronica, and Sally Timms and Jon Langford do good offhand country dub on "Version Pardner." You're really missing some fun, xxhuxx

Well, maybe I'll see if my copy is still out in the hallway somewhere, and if so, I'll give it another shot. But you know, I'm one of those "Why would anybody listen to any Mekons music from the past two decades?" sticks in the mud. Even though they did make mix up real good country dub once upon a time, like in 1981 or so. So I may be a hard sell.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

A Taylor Swift outtake (or demo), "Come In With The Rain"

not bad. the verse melody is fountains of wayne's "all kinds of time," almost note for note.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

"Miracles Begin"... and "Hands of Time" also talk about being a mom, and sound nicely lively about it.

Actually, "Hands of Time" is schmaltz; I must've confused it with something. Other one's good though.

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

(May have confused it with "That Was Yesterday," which is a real rocker but doesn't mention momhood.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 April 2007 23:44 (eighteen years ago)

Also fun is the new Los Straitjackets, where they do 60s Hispanic radio oversions of Top 40 Hits, many of which are improved, although "All Day And All Of The Night" is disappointing, but it's gone pretty fast. (Also some that seem to have been hits only on Hispanic radio, or maybe local/regional crossover, and they're good too.Like "Dejenne Llorar" by Los Freddys.)Cesar Rosas of Los Lobos produces and plays guitar, organ,ukelele, vihuela, and cowbell; Willie C.of Thee Midnighters sings, and so does Big Sandy, who's also on the current tour. Alas, they won't be 'ccompanied by the fabulous Pontani Sisters, but you can see those triplets go-going for the security camera on the Web site (oh yeah, and stream the album too) http://www.straitjackets.com

dow, Monday, 16 April 2007 04:10 (eighteen years ago)

Freddy Fender fans should dig (justification for mentioning it on Rolling Country)

dow, Monday, 16 April 2007 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

i tried to get people interested in that record months ago don, nobody bit

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 16 April 2007 05:17 (eighteen years ago)

The Vince Gill single, "What You Give Away" - The melody is a nice enough old-style rock 'n' roll ballad, but Gill's vocals are locked into a subdued but monolithic Orbison quaver from start to finish (which is pretty much the opposite of how Orbison actually sang, as Roy was always shifting his tones and dynamics). This falls between two stools, "quietly haunting" and "extravagant." The result is boredom. Sheryl Crow is nice on harmony but mixed to low to rescue this. The lyrics are trite; they excoriate a wealthy businessman on the hill for not caring about the homeless.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 16 April 2007 05:40 (eighteen years ago)

mixed too low

Frank Kogan, Monday, 16 April 2007 05:41 (eighteen years ago)

hmm, that's my problem with the lauded Gill 3-disc set--he doesn't ever sound like he cares about what he's singing...about. rippin' guitarist.

as for Los Strait, I've always kinda liked them. I'll have to get a copy of the new one; I'm a fan of the Cesar Rosas solo record from 1999 with the great Ike Turner cover. ("You Got to Lose," not Ike glowering on the jewel case...) But if you want the roots of this sorta thing, Pachuco Soul comp on Vampisoul, 30 tracks, Thee Enchantments doing "I'm in Love with Your Daughter" and the Atlantics "Beaver Shot" and the Royal Checkmates greasing Lee Dorsey's "Get Out of My Life Woman." choice.

xps

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

There was a big article with photos in a DC Spanish language weekly about the Straightjackets new cd. I was surprised to see that.

So tonight:

For the third staight year, Jeff Foxworthy will host the 5th annual Country Music Television Awards which will air live on Monday, April 16, 2007, 8:00 ET from Curb Event Center at Belmont University in Nashville.

Slated to perform live are Rascal Flatts, Martina McBride, Dierks Bentley, Kenny Chesney, Tim McGraw, Carrie Underwood and Sugarland.


Stay tuned ....

curmudgeon, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

Well of course something like Pachuco Soul would be thee one to check first, or ultimately, but Los 'Jackets are the ones touring, and Cesar, Little Willie G., even Big Sandy really bring out the Spanish Tinge, as John Storm Roberts would say, in a bunch of mostly Ango-known moldie oldies ("Hang On Sloopy" gets a juicy transfusion via "Hey Lupe", "Gimme Little Sign"gets "Dame Una Sena," "Dizzy Miss Lizzy" gets "EL Microscopico Bikini"--Los Teen Tops' Armando Martinez did a lot of the creative translations for rocanrol Mexicano combos.) Was Pachuco Soul the one that got reviewed in the Voice, in the form of a police report? Perfect, whoever did that.

dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 02:52 (eighteen years ago)

Although now that I look closer, "Dame Una Sena" is dressed in "brand new lyrics by L'il Luis Arriaga!" And they all credit the original writer, and the Hispanic cover artists, but not the translators specifically; that's what I get for prematurely parroting press release backstory)

dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)

But also, there's a big benefit concert for Scott Boyer, who was in Cowboy, mainly known to me as kind of a country-prog band, sort of like Traffic when on the same bill as dedicated boogie bands like Grinderswitch ("boogie bands" was what we'uns spoke of when "Southern Rock" was still mainly a media term, like "punk" and "metal" and ever'thing else, in the beginning). And for "Please Be With Me," real nice ballad with Duane Allman on acoustic slide. Clapton did it on 461 Ocean Boulevard, still one of his best albums, probably. The other main Cowboy was Tommy Talton, whom I got to know a little bit during his week's set at a local dive, with Bill Stewart, Johnny Sandlin, and a local keybist, Jabbo Stokes, and that was kind of like Jeff Beck and Stevie Wonder, together at last (and not just when they were covering Jeff Beck and Stevie Wonder. I guess they did the countryoid material too, but it was up to the mid-70s high mark, not much nostalgia for Cowboy times, a year or so previous.)Boyer's played with Percy Sledge, Bonnie Bramlett, and in a 60s band, The 31rst Of February, with Butch Trucks and Duane and Gregg, and Butch and Gregg will be at the benefit show at Birmingham's Alabama Theatre, Wednesday night. (There was already one at the Shoals Theatre in Florence.) According to Bob Carlton's article in the B'ham News (which I'd link from al.com, but you gotta register to read it, and yall won't do that), also scheduled to perform are Paul Thorn (wrote "Mission Temple Fireworks Stand" and other interesting stuff; a big-mouth live performer, but keeps getting better at it); "Nashville Star" contestant Zac Hacker (just got a promo of his sister's album; she was also a hopeful); David Hood, Donnie Fritts, Wayne Perkins ('Bama who recorded with the Stones, etc.); Topper Price (singer-harmonicat, recorded with Dickey Betts Band); Rick Kurtz (Delbert McClinton's guitarist, sometimes); Bryan Owings (drummer for Buddy and Julie Miller, etc.) Oh yeah, and The Amazing Rhythm Aces, and whover's in The Capricorn Rhythm Section now, and another band Boyer used to be with, The Decoys, and Bonnie Bramlett too. He's known for doing lots of benefits himself, and he's got a damaged artery, and see http://www.myspace.com/scottboyerbenefit

dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 05:20 (eighteen years ago)

[list]Was Pachuco Soul the one that got reviewed in the Voice, in the form of a police report?[/list]

[i}Pachuco Boogie featuring Don Tosti[/i] actually (great album btw), and the author was David Wondrich:

[list][Removed Illegal Link]

Lots of the '60s garage hits (from "Wooly Bully" and "96 Tears" and "She's About A Mover" on down) obviously had border music deep in their loins, of course, especially probably the East L.A. ones. ("Farmer John" by the Premiers may or may not have, but it's one of the greatest rock'n'roll records ever anyway.) As did plenty of East L.A. doowop and N.Y. garage-like-Joe Cuba boogaloo back then. But I gotta say, the Los Straitjackets and Big Sandy (and, sue me, Los Lobos) etc. stuff I've heard has struck me as totally stiff and timid (and uncrazed despite the Nacho Libre masks that seemed such a dumb campy lookit-us-we've-got-lampshades-on shtick the one time I saw Los Straitjackets live in Philly a few years back) in comparison, so I really don't have high hopes for this record, should I ever land a copy, if I haven't done so already. It's possible I should listen to the band more, but honestly, if I did hear that new record it left no impression at all. (I know I got some aging retro college-radio sillibillies covering old songs in the mail this year, but I'm probably thinking of Southern Culture on the Skids, whose CD I know for sure I didn't get far into.) If I get a copy of the Los Straitjackets, though, I'll try it. (Again?).

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:11 (eighteen years ago)

"Illegal"?? The Village Fucking Voice??

Lemme try again:

http://dev.villagevoice.com/music/0221,wondrich,34958,22.html

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

I gotta say, the Los Straitjackets and Big Sandy (and, sue me, Los Lobos) etc. stuff I've heard has struck me as totally stiff and timid (and uncrazed

By which I guess I basically mean that it's never seemed like their singers and rhythm sections are all that great*. (Though, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't Big Sandy's prior resume' heavier toward the blues/Western swing end of things than, say, the Tex-Mex end? I know I've tried a couple his albums, which basically went in one ear and out the other.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

* - No need to revive Los Lobos debate; it's all here:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=13971

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

In other less contentious news that hopefully won't make me seem like so much of a jerk, I finally decided that the cdbaby albums I recommened above by both Brandie Frampton and Tracy Delucia, despite both having a handful of real good songs, are both more uneven than I might have previously implied.

(In the end, I prefer the new Hilary Duff album to either of them, even though I'm getting the idea from the increasingly crypitc teen-pop thread that some people consider Hilary's new one a forced matrurity/dignity move and hence a retreat for her. I don't hear it that way at all, but then again, I'm still waiting for her earlier stuff -- none of which albums I have around here anymore, sadly -- to connect with me.) (But this isn't country, duh.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

it's never seemed like their singers and rhythm sections are all that great

Also, on records I've heard, they just don't rock as hard as the best '60s garage punks did. (But perhaps I should shut up until I actually know for sure that I've heard the new Straitjackets album. Any album with "Hang On Sloopy" can't be all bad!)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

East L.A. doowop

Well, not doowop, per se. But r&b at least.

Damn I sound like Xhuxk-by-rote in these last few posts. (Sometimes I should just stay out of it.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I dunno. Los Straits are fun live--they don't seem any more or less retro than Big Sandy, for example, of any number of rockabilly dudes I've seen. I remember sharing some herbal sacrament with one of the Big Sandy guys in the parking lot of the now-gone Sutler in N-ville, and the guy tried to scheme on my girlfriend. And Chuck is so right on "Farmer John." I'm fascinated with that whole era in LA music, the zoot-suit riots and all that. Don and Dewey. Don't know how Los Lobos got in there but again, I mean they're really good. Recently in town there was this typical Friday-night bill in East Nashville--a one-man drunken band w/ keyboards called something like Cass Cass Casiotone (he ran off the with tip jar), a strange little new-wave band featuring a blonde singer as good-looking as Dale Bozzio, practically, they sounded like Missing Persons or something, and then a band called Corazon, who apparently have a big following in the Spring Hill section of town. totally cool, big fat guitar player getting all Hendrix-ed out, and they did Bobby Bland's "Farther On Up the Road" good and then essayed some Lobos-style/Santana/idiot-salsa/r&b grooves, not bad at all, but the fat guitar dude tried to sing just like David Hidalgo and you realized, shit, that's harder to do that they make it look. So I don't knock Los Lobos at all myself altho in my less sanguine moments I think of them as the Little Feat of the '90s, and I mean sure I love me some Dixie Chicken.
Kind of into Pam Tillis right now--her new record I decided was actually really good, and not as retro as Elizabeth Cook's. Tillis pulls off the kind of slightly fruity and melodramatic singing and interpreting that I normally would avoid--she picked some great songs and when I say that her band sounds as good as her dad's Statesiders, that's a compliment. I know her Arista singles--she supposedly did a rock record in the '70s. And a tribute to her dad a few years back. To my ears, given the context of early-'90s country, Tillis' "Cleopatra, Queen of Denial" and "Let That Pony Run" sure sound good these days.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

re ? & Mysteriansetc having Latin "in their loins": literally in that case, since ?=Rudy Martinez, and I think the Ms were all Hispanic as well, and yeah, that's what I meant about Little Willie G. and these other guys bringing out "Spanish Tinge, as John Storm Roberts would say," cos of course his book of that title was about covert/unacknowledged Latin elements in mainstream pop & rock (as far as its promotion, overall--although word got around among Hispanics, and certainly about input by their own, as well as Leiber & Stoller's [et al's]admitted integrations of stylistic elements])Not saying it's any great thing, but seems streamworthy, if you follow that link I posted upthread--But! Like I warned, the first track, "All Day And All Of The Night," is the most disappointing, to me anyway. Edd, have you heard Little Feat with that female vocalist? Of course they're a ghost band now, but seems okay enough (speaking of Lowell George, he told an interviewer about replacing Dickie Dodd in the Standells, and at his first gig, was confronted by audience of angry Chicanas, waiting for their hombre: "Where's Dickie, m-a-a-a-n...")

dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

no, last Little Feat record I ever heard was Time Loves a Hero or that live double, altho I've heard a few more recent tracks somewhere or another. What's real interesting are the Cale Paris 1919 outtakes featuring Lowell ripping on slide. btw-- thx, Don, from both me and Duncan, Amnesty is here.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

I bet these guys liked Little Feat (though maybe the Grateful Dead more, I dunno -- also some Don Henley in their singing now and then, at least in the apparent Robbie Robertson cover "Stage Fright", so throw the Band into the equation as well as I guess): Real good new country-jazz/proto-jam/soft-rock/white blues/country boogie/bluegrass/Western swing reunion CD from a quintet of North Dakotans whose local heyday apparently went 1974-1982, and even (they say--haven't verified) made Billboard's country singles chart for a week once. Jazzy opening track is my favorite so far, though I don't think the Thelonious Monk cover has come up in my CD changer yet. The songs otherwise are mostly originals, and mostly sound like songs (even more than, I dunno, Donna the Buffalo's or Tea Leaf Green's jams sound like songs, and those bands are both way above the jam pack songwise in the first place). "Battle the Bottle" is good 12-step-program country; "Bottom of the Band" and "2 O'Clock Shuffle" are lively boogie woogie; etc. etc.:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/redwillowband3

xhuxk, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

speaking of Tea Leaf Green, I never heard their last, live record. Wonder how they are live--kind of interesting to hear a keyboard-dominated jam band...
inspired by the new Prine/Wiseman collab (and Wiseman is definitely one great singer and someone I got to check out--in his excellent ND piece on Wiseman, Barry Mazor mentions a collab w/ Woody Herman, as well as an entire record of Gordon Lightfoot covers), went back and checked out Prine's In Spite of Ourselves, which I missed upon release. Greatest country record ever made about marriage (or men and women) and its joys and discontents? The duets w/ Iris Dement are just amazing.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 21 April 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

I actually got about four copies of that live Tea Leaf Green album in the mail, Edd, but I'm not sure if any of the extras are still around here; if I find one, I'll mail it to you. Here's what I wrote about it on last year's thread (i.e., not much), though I should confess I didn't wind up putting it on much afterwards, for whatever that's worth:

new tea leaf green album, *rock'n'roll band* earns its title. even better than the last one, for its instrumental parts, by which i mean mainly not only its guitar parts. the vocals, still deadhead mellow, don't grab me but also don't really bug me. if there are any other "jam bands" this listenable out there, i'd like to know who.

-- xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:10 AM (6 months ago)


Also, the Red Willow Band are South not North Dakotans, it turns out; wow, hope I didn't offend anybody with that gaffe. (And the Thelonious Monk cover, which finally came up, sounded good.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 21 April 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

New album by David Olney, One Tough Town, is kicking my butt; alternating awesome cynical country songs with Tom Waits-like thumpers which still somehow work even though I'm pretty much over Tom Waits imitators. Guest guitar by Richard Thompson on at least one track, but real star are the actual songs. Title track talks about how Earth is the toughest gig: "They'll put a hole in you they could drive a truck through / And if you don't like it ... " (well he doesn't actually say anything there but guess what rhymes with "truck through"?)

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 21 April 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

I've got the Olney too, I'll check it out. Remember him on Austin City Limits 30 years ago, swaggering through this b-movie-boxer-as-primo-Graham-Parker-of-Nashville thing; the audience was laughing,as he strutted among them spouting 100 words per barline (so in that sense like the Brooce of several years previous, but the voice and arragement were as compressed as GP & The Rumour, only it was a Southern Thing too! WooHoo!)(the band might have been The X-Rays, or maybe that was later) Cool, but somehow I've never picked up (or even seen) an album. Also, last night I heard this song, "No Regrets, " which I thought was Tom Rush, suavely melancholy with early-Joni changes, and Rush was one of the first to record her songs, but turned out to be--Waits! From an album he made in 1969. I'd always thought of Closing Time, from maybe '71, as his first, with "Old '55," which The Eagles covered. Pretty good songs, and not really the faux-Satchmo bit yet, but this '69 bit was even better. (And the DJ said he did cover Joni on there, but think this was an original; anyway, might be worth checking out; fairly often did like his songs, but not the full-on vocal thing, usually). Yeah, Edd, Prine with Melba Montgomery and Iris Dement etc. is prob the keeper. Elzabeth Cook's new Balls is tickling me, for the most part. Just pitched it, so I'll hold my enthusiasm for the moneyshot. Not feelin' the new Dale Watson, he begs comparison with Cash and Waylon, who had more emotional range (Cash's "Sam Hill," snarling on the gallows, but Dale's killers are too nice, at least on this album(BTW, the"Yellow Mama" he mentions is Alabama's electric chair, so named for its paint job and a streak of piss-stain, but he's too nice to tell you that)

dow, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, the Tea Leaf Green live is conventional jam band, with guitar cranking all possible interest for the first half or so; the others pull their weight eventually, but the studio album was much better, more distinctive, with the translucent, android vocals and keybs up front, the guitar like lighting in the background, suitable for the songs about growing up way back in the mountains, and hazards and beauty of that, and of gradually venturing out.

dow, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Good new version of the Rednex' techno-country version of "Cotton Eyed Joe" on the Pretty Donkey Girl album (Pretty Donkey apparently this year's model to carry on the hamster dance/crazy frog zany zoo tradition.) Discussed further on the teenpop thread. Have not listened to "Holly's Farm" yet.

The "D-Bop Radio Edit" of Gretchen Wilson's "Redneck Girl" that Frank burned for me on his most recent mix CD would've fit pretty well on the Pretty Donkey CD, probably, but I still like a bunch of tracks on Gretchen's new album more (closing time boogie "You Don't Have To Go Home," Southern rocker that quotes Billy Idol and Bob Seger "There's a Place in the Whiskey", "Okee From Muskogee" soundalike "If You Want a Mother," "Gold Old Boy"). Basically, again, the rockers. Which are better than her debut album's ballads ever were, and the first album's rockers return the favor to the new album's ballads. Though midtempos "The Girl I Am" and "There Goes The Neighborhood" are fine. She's totally consistent; it's not her fault that fickle fans overrated her when she first showed up.

Tea Leaf Green live is conventional jam band ...the studio album was much better, more distinctive

In retrospect, I would probably agree with this.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 01:24 (eighteen years ago)

"Redneck Woman," I mean.

Biggest surprise on the first few tracks I tracked through on the new Nick Lowe apparently-all-covers-of-songs-I-never-heard-before album: How flat his voice has become over the years. Not sure why I expected otherwise; haven't paid close attention to the guy since 1979 (guess I've listened to a couple albums in the interim to write quickie reviews, but they're long gone from my memory banks), and my assumption has always been that he turned dullard years ago. Well, he still is one. Albeit a tasteful dullard, apparently. And one whose vocal chords have done what most vocal chords do in 28 years. For whatever it's worth, the song choice seems okay (and even his flatness seems passingly pleasant.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 01:42 (eighteen years ago)

(Another possibilty: Yep Roc simply brings out the dullard in people. See: Ian Hunter above.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 01:45 (eighteen years ago)

Haven't heard those particular albums, but might well be the hazards of being a pub rock label, in the sense that pub rock is basically a geezercore thing, though it involves youger art-rowdies too: I like Th' Legendary Shack Shakers and Chatham County Line on Yep Roc, and John Doe too, speaking of geezercore. Ian and Nick seem pretty insular, basically, so at this point the dullard might not need much bringing out.

dow, Sunday, 22 April 2007 03:32 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think Yep Roc is much involved in production.

dow, Sunday, 22 April 2007 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, most likely not (though I wonder if the blandness is part of what attracts the label to these sorts of oldster projects in the first place?)

Anyway, I wish this fellow had more interesting things going on singing-wise, lyric-wise, melody-wise, and rhythm-wise (seeing how he seems to see himself as a disciple of Dylan, or at least his harmonica parts do) but I still think the idea of a concept EP dedicated to the concept of Levittown (the Long Island one, where I've never been, though Billy Joel mentioned it in a song once, not the Pennsylvania one, where I lived when I was in Kindergarten) -- apparently commissioned by the archetypal 'burb for its 60th Anniversary, no less. And it's only eight songs, so who knows, maybe a few will kick in despite their plainness. (I've long been a sucker for suburb rock, though maybe he should've gotten Fountains of Wayne to help him out? Or the Pet Shop Boys, or Rush? Or better still, Faith Hill and Tim McGraw?) I wonder if he knows "Little Boxes" is the theme of Weeds:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/koenigbob

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 12:37 (eighteen years ago)

"I still think the idea of a concept EP dedicated to the concept of Levittown..." is an overdue idea, I meant. (My dashes and parentheses lost me there.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

Also, not an EP -- 12 songs, duh, with only the first two-thirds Levittown-related. (Though my as yet untested guess is that keeping the project pure, just the Levittown 8, might've been wiser.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

Bob K is a really nice guy. He's also written songs about Mineola. And holy cow, he put "Backroad Pond" on the CD. That's from years ago. I play the electric guitar parts.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

He seems like a nice guy! And I will listen to his CD more. But I dunno, right now his sound is seeming antiseptic enough to mirror every ignorant suburbaphobe myth you've ever heard, which might defeat the purpose, since it means he doesn't really bring suburbia to life. And if Levittown is like lots of other first-generation suburbs these days, I'm not really convinced by his bourgeois utopianism, either. Yeah, GIs came home after WWII and bought GE refrigerators. And decades later, where the appliance store used to stand there's now a crystal meth factory, unless the appliance store was on Main Street or it'd qualify as lucrative waterfront property, in which case it's been replaced by a quaint crafts boutique or crab shack. Maybe not in Levittown, but that's what would make make suburbia and exurbia interesting to do a talking blues about now. (Enter here: rant about what some country singers should be singing about these days, from the current Dust Bowl-like flght by Montanta-and-Wyoming-bound Detroiters to high fructose corn syrup spawned by farm subsidies making obesity inevitable among impoverished kids {great piece about the latter in today's Sunday Times magazine}. But it won't happen.) (Are many off-Nashville alt-country guys writing about those sorts of topics lately? That'd be much more likely, I'm guessing. Though their singing might not put the lyrics over, so I probably wouldn't notice.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

(Unless the guys on the G.I. bill got the fridge from the Sears catalog, or a department store in the city, or wherever. But you get my point.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

well, Don, my take on Cook's new one is that she got a little coy about how much she wants to be a star...success narrative...and so you get a bunch of lines like "the options are endless, so it seems" and "I'm not a has-been, I'm still a gonna-be." the guitar playing--the stuff that sounds like rock and roll Fender playing is probably by her husband Tim Carroll--makes some of the record come alive. other times I get not a whole lot from her voice. so I dunno. the uptempo stuff is good and "Sometimes It Takes" a minor classic of sorts, a song Nick Lowe would like. dunno about Lowe's voice these days, or how Yep Roc can make anyone sound bland, can believe it's true from the evidence of a lot of their stuff.
far as Dale Watson goes, Don, I've said this before on here, but I think he's onto something with that record and it might have to do with the aural quality of the thing itself and not the songs. the keepers are "You Always Get What You Want" and "Time Without You" and the rest of it is a bit pro forma, and yeah, "Yellow Mama" is about the 'Bama 'lectric chair but they don't tell ya that so you wonder what sort of miscengenist or eugenecist song it is.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

xp: I'm guessing James McMurtry (in "We Can't Make It Here" and/or elsewhere) has maybe come close to meeting some of the lyrical requests I made in that last rant. I just wish I liked his music more.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

xxpp: Decided I like quiet one "Pain Killer" better than loud one "You Don't Have To Go Home" on the new Gretchen. So my rule does have exceptions. (And D-Bopped "Redneck Woman" beats the latter as well.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Have not listened to "Holly's Farm" yet

It is "Old McDonald Had a Farm." Good version, too! EIEIO's go well with bubbletechno beats, turns out.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

What is the "D-Bopped" "Redneck Woman"? I'm one of those who thought Gretchen's first album was just perfect, so I'm in for inevitable letdowns, but I think I like this one better than the second. I hate the opening track, where she sings about how she never says she's sorry or gives apologies, and "I don't give a damn--I guess that's just the girl I am." I don't like refusing to apologize when it's my wife doing it and I don't like it any more when it's Gretchen. But the album picks up from there. I do hate that it's only 11 songs, which is SonyBMG's CD-era equivalent of the nine-song limit in the LP era. (Only Brad Paisley seems to be able to get a longer song list past Joe Galante.) So Gretchen's album ends with a sad ballad, which would sound okay if it weren't really the only song of its kind on the album and an odd finale. She needs to end her albums with "Pocahontas Proud"-type cappers, not the least characteristic song on her record (also true of the Billie Holliday cover last time, but bothering me more this time for some reason). Then again, I may be one of the few country music fans alive who really gives a shit about album song sequencing. Actually, "You Don't Have to Go Home" is my least favorite, because it pretty much takes one line out of Supersonic's "Closing Time" and makes a whole lyrical hook out of it, as if it were presenting something original and clever. But I like the rest of it, especially "Pain Killer" and the funny one about being her lover's mother.

Willman, Sunday, 22 April 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

The thing I hate most about Nashville songwriting is the repetition of a clever title at the beginning AND end of the chorus, as if people might not get it if they didn't hear it twice in 30 seconds. Which is why I really don't like Elizabeth Cook's "Sometimes It Takes Balls to Be a Woman." She's supposed to have joined the insurgent side now or something, but the song not only plays by that hoary Nashville rule but takes it a step further: She not only begins and ends each chorus with the adorable line but also ends each verse with it, too, for good measure. By my calculations, that's roughly 3,412 repetititions. Is the rest of the album any good? I don't know--I'm "supposed to" like her, I know, but sometimes it's hard getting past one tune that's a major turnoff.

Willman, Sunday, 22 April 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

What is the "D-Bopped" "Redneck Woman"?

Chipmunk/hamster-voiced Eurotechno remix Frank Kogan burnt for me. I'm not sure where he dug it up.

. I do hate that it's only 11 songs,

Ha ha, I almost always prefer short albums. (If I had my way, most acts would just put out EPs.) (One reason I like way more country albums than hip-hop albums at this point in history.)

I may be one of the few country music fans alive who really gives a shit about album song sequencing

Yeah, this wouldn't be me. I hardly ever listen to songs in the order they're on the album anyway.

"You Don't Have to Go Home"...takes one line out of Supersonic's "Closing Time" and makes a whole lyrical hook out of it

Really? That wasn't even the closing time I was thinking of when I said "closing time" up above. I was thinking more that she took a sign about a bar she (or whoever the songwriter was) drank in and made a whole lyrical hook out of that, which seems a pretty dang country thing to do. (Also, the song is way better than anything I ever heard by Supersonic. Whose words I've long forgotten.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Well, last fm has it, at least:

[Removed Illegal Link]

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

(Oh well; it's googlable.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

(Last.fm Has the D-Bop edit, that is.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

And a sign above a bar, I meant. And I have never used last.fm; that was just one of sites came up when I googled "D-Bop" "Redneck Woman," and I was impressed that 24 people had listened to the remix there in the past six months. And I hope this post fixes that annoying italics problem, and maybe a moderator can delete the last few wasted ones.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

The Supersonic song has the line "Closing time - you don't have to go home but you can't stay here," which I always liked. Hearing Gretchen take it and repeat it over and over as the chorus of her song kind of bugged me. Truth is, this line is probably uttered by thousands of bartenders every night, and I just haven't been in enough of 'em at 2 a.m. to recognize it as not original to Supersonic. But I guess in the general scheme of egregiousness, it's not as bad as Merle uberfan Toby Keith naming a song "Get Drunk and Be Somebody," after Merle's "Drink Up and Be Somebody," etc.

Willman, Monday, 23 April 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

Guys, your objections to Elizabeth Cook helped me improve my pitch; thanks! xxhuxx, xxcellent ideas for/challenges to songwriters. Reminds me of a New Yorker short story by E. Annie Proulx, if I've got her name right. (Also wrote the short story basis of Brokeback Mountain.) In the one I'm thinking of, ranchers denounce the trashing of the contemporary West by nouveau riche immigrants from Burbia, without noticing that they're trashing it too. Much amazing detail here, since backed up by my googling, alas. I don't like that it's from viewpoint of Burbian zombies, but hopefully she'll continue to explore this turf. (Has she written lyrics? Maybe for the Brokeback soundtrack? Or am I thinking of somebody else; several novelists turning songwriters these days.)

dow, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know why there hasn't been some sort of biodiesel commune narrative set in West Tennessee with some ex-'60s radicals thrown in there --speaking of country's expanded subject matter. they're doing a lot of biodiesel in West Tennessee, the Coöp newsletter says, big bucks in the making for the right person...
as far as "Sometimes It Takes Balls," I mean it sounds like a typical Nashville songwriter's trick in that they find a few different ways to set that title phrase within the structure of the thing, very formal. I think it's a good song. to me, the whole album is a sort of new wave move, a throwback to hickabilly country music, we're so country we're cool, if not weird, and rock and roll is just a joke to us. yet they're trying to rock in an odd way, it's that old trick. it's a mild record, could've been more urgent but then part of what's interesting about the record is how unsure it really is and how the various games they play attempt to hide that unsureness, and how obviously they fail. insurgent it's not. strange.
xps

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 01:12 (eighteen years ago)

what's with these i-talics?
just thought I'd mention, speaking of insurgents, that the new Johnny Bush record is out of hand--it's out there. big-band shit and horn arrangements and steel guitar. ferocious groove and some great electric guitar. I haven't fully absorbed what he's doing here, but he really pushes his voice, and I mean he sounds like a big-band singer. Moon Mullican's "I'll Sail My Ship Alone" just fucking swings, cat daddies and mommas. the sense of sheer release Bush gets here in his singing puts a lot of what I've been listening to to bed, and the music is dense. pretty great.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 01:22 (eighteen years ago)

[/i]ITALICS BEGONE

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

haha whoops

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

hello

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

sorry it's stuck on italics

by the way this isnt 2007 but i think the nightwatchman album is pretty good for springsteen-derived angry populist folk music

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

aw hell it IS 2007, started to say one thing and said another

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

don't know the Nightwatchman. semi-populist mutant folk music: the new Dave Olney, One Tough Town. the first two tracks are sort of his swamp/Excello/rockabilly move, and his voice is right on the edge. third track uses this dixieland 'bone and clarinet ricky-ticky two-step and he makes like your old uncle jazz singer. "I'll be giving orders from now on/I'm just a chunk of wood/Listen up good/Get yourself together or get gone." Somehow he's convincing on this one, so maybe his rockin' moments aren't him to a T. I don't think he's much of a singer but he tries, and he's going after an avant-blooze thing about ten years too late, or thirty years, since "Who's the Dummy Now?" is like Beefheart's Spotlight Kid. Hard to get a handle on how "literary" his lyrics are--he sounds like the usual hard-boiled Gaelic Shamus. In other words not bad but I fear the inevitable Tom Waits comparisons and frankly I've never much liked Waits' supposedly avant-garde Rudy Vallee imitations. and when Olney sings how love is a long-shot gamble/roll of the dice/you burn with fire/walk on thin ice, I turn the goddamned thing off.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

the nightwatchman album isn't bad but it would help a lot if he could sing. it sounds eerily like dave alvin. who also can't sing.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

Gretchen Wilson's One of the Boys confirms my suspicion this is a deeply interesting feminist moment in country music--strong records from Pam Tillis, Miranda Lambert, Elizabeth Cook and Wilson, and I'd put Amy LaVere in there because she's also one Strong Woman plus she's the best-lookin' of all of the artists I list. I figured out, if she had the voice for it she could blow all the punkabilly female singers (Kristi Rose, and Elizabeth Cook's voice is essentially characterless other than she sounds tough and reeeal country, therefore Pissed Off, except she's not pissed off enough, thus she loses in this particular feminist moment. Carrie Underwood, whose record I still feel is in that odd category of Too Much but whose passion and real feeling for the exhilaration of success I probably underrated a bit (still think Underwood is the greatest interpreter of Diane Warren--and hey, Diane Warren is another strong woman, has done well), is in here too. But anyway, Wilson's record starts off with her shrinking away from herself and from success and she sounds a bit lost on "Pain Killer" and does better with the wordless chorus of the rather strangely non-verbal "One of the Boys" (so, she or someone understands something about rock and roll--cf. the Stones' Metamorphosis, and if I wanted to get cute I'd say this is Gretchen's Flowers or "I'd Much Rather Be with the Boys" move). Plus, is it just me kind of getting off on this particular feminist moment or does a song like "There's a Place in the Whiskey" really take some of those old notions about sleazoid rock riffs turning into something more calculated and turn them on their heads? Anyway, the backing here throughout sounds perfect for the concerns about identity Gretchen is playing off of, with the slightly rushed beginning of "There Goes the Neighborhood" and the relish she sings "mobile home" and the chorus expressing something she can't get to in the songs themselves. So, this is crafty shit and there's not anything as remotely and deeply, fuck-you feminist or unselfconsciously avant as Nashville country, maybe.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

should be, Amy LaVere could blow all those singers away if she had the voice. those parentheses got me, and plus I'm enjoying the Wilson record too much. plus she moves to the city in "There Goes the Neighborhood" and the city people "are playing possum while I'm living high on the hog," which makes me laugh a lot.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

Some songs on the Bucky Covington debut are clicking with me right now. A surprise after hearing the horrible first single "A Different World" which has a guy born in 1977 singing about growing up in a time before all that modern stuff like video games. (Dude, the Pac Man Fever album came out when you were five!) When he was on American Idol I thought he had a nice .38 Special style voice--especially when he was doing Gary Allan & Skynyrd songs--but when I heard the single I thought some producer (apparently someone from Sawyer Brown) had sanitized him beyond all hope. Luckily the single seems to be just an attempt to get Country Radio spins (it's working) and the rest of the album is fairly kick ass Southern Rock.

I sorta like how "Back When We Were Gods" is a rewrite of "When We Were Kings" by Brooks & Dunn, but a generation later (with one of the buddies going to Desert Storm instead of Vietnam.) Speaking of rocking country, it's unfortunate (for him) that his release date is so close to Miranda's, since I'm sure her album blows his away.

mulla atari, Thursday, 26 April 2007 12:54 (eighteen years ago)

has anybody else heard "Good Kinda Crazy" by Amy Dalley? She's talking about her goofy guy dancing around like Mick Jagger and putting on a Latin accent in the bedroom, that he's super-impatient but still waited in line for hours to buy Toby Keith tickets for her and her friends. I went to her web site and so far I've only listened to one other song but it was great too, I think it's called "That's All I Have to Say About That" and it's about her and her friends having a wild night out, doing body shots and seducing mama's boys. Lots of flashing too, apparently. Fun stuff.

JoshLove, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

Amy Dalley had a hell of a single a few years ago called "Men Don't Change." I credit it as the single that really got me listening to country radio (the late KZLA in L.A.). Bizarrely, it and every other Amy Dalley single (and there've been a bunch of them) have never been commercially available. Curb has had an album of hers in the can for years, and I'm sure she's recorded at least a subsequent album's worth of material since then. But until she has a top 5 hit, it's apparently not worth their while to put actual product out there.

Willman, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I just listened to that one too on her Myspace and it was also terrific (there's another great one on her web site called "Gossip" where the rumors in question concern a slutty cheerleader, a grocery store tryst, and exchanging sex for good grades). I found an interview online where she says the album's coming out this year, so hopefully that's a good sign. tracking if and when this record is coming out may end up turning into an obsession.

JoshLove, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

The video, which I wrote about on that year's Rolling Country, seemed perfect, and CMT played the hell out of it, and yes, album's still in the can, and the same thing is happening to Ashley Monroe (they did manage to send out a promo early last year, then noticed it needed some more work, so they did that, and meanwhile the vid kept showing up, and album's gotten pushed back, pulled fwd, last Sony told me, might be this fall)

dow, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever heard an Amy Dalley song! And I clearly need to. Sounds like she'd be great.

Chronic insomnia (no longer a laughing matter, to be honest) has made me fall behind on this thread this week, among others. I'll catch up eventually, I'm sure. Meanwhile, I'm still trying to grasp the appeal of that Amy LaVere record. I mean, it's okay -- or at least "That Beat"'s Slavic two-beat and "Washing Machine"'s laundry rock are okay -- but beyond that, I'm either drawing a blank from it (most of it) or outwardly cringing at it ("People Get Mad" and "I'll Remember You," the latter of which takes her way too pervasive shrinking-violet routine to an extreme I just can't stomach.) (Not sure why Edd thinks she's so gorgeous, either, to be honest -- I mean, she looks comely enough on the CD cover I suppose {actually, how she looks on the CD cover reminds me of Neko Case, which makes me wonder whether her sound should also remind me of Case, who I've never gotten the appeal of either}, but then lots of ladies look comely on their CD covers, right? Martina McBride's a lot cuter, in my book, and I'm still not convinced her crummy new album isn't better, to be honest.) All in all, as folky girly country goes, I'd say I'm preferring the new album by Jan Bell & the Cheap Dates, Songs For Love Drunk Sinners -- especially "January Morning" and "Given" so far, which have a prettiness LaVere just can't touch.

Also in my CD changer this sleepy morning: The Best of Acoustic Jethro Tull (which seems quite useful in this freak-folk/jig-metal age) and Big Al Downing's XM Satellite Radio Live, which I just got, and is the closest thing to a Big Al best-of I own, not that it actually has any competition.

Links to the latter two:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/jbcheapdates

http://cdbaby.com/cd/bigaldowning2

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2007 11:54 (eighteen years ago)

"a doomy prettiness" (in re: Jan Bell, I should say).

As for LaVere, maybe the great songs just aren't coming up in my fickle and picky CD changer? Always a possibility. Which ones are they, Edd?

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I like LaVere's "Overcome" polka, too. Probably a good chance I'll wind up keeping the album despite my misgivings, which means it is probably better than McBride's after all (unless I wind up keeping that one, as well, though it'll take me longer to decide.) And Amy's fetchiness may well me on par, too -- I've never seen her (or McBride, actually) in person, so what do I know?

Also in yesterday's mail, btw: Advance of new Big & Rich album! Complete with Wyclef Jean and John Legend guest spots and AC/DC remake! But it's one of those daunting looking copy-protected and water- marked (so I couldn't file-share it even if I knew how) Warners advances that never play in my stereo, so I haven't even bothered to try to put it on yet.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:05 (eighteen years ago)

(And it should also be noted that Jan Bell's got her own wallflowery vocal tendencies that bug me sometimes as well, so I'm not dead set on the winner of that contest either. I do think, though, that Jan has a knack for dark melodies -- as demonstrated on both her 9-11 single from a few years back and her Maybelles album from a couple years ago maybe more than her new one -- that I'm not hearing from Amy, who does seem to be trying.)

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:15 (eighteen years ago)

i've expressed my disdain for the new fountains of wayne album on their own thread, but seeing them perform the song "I-95" the other night sent me back to the album which made me realize what an utterly fabulous ballad that is, and it sounds very much like a classic country love song. it's full of great local detail, dry humor and longing.

coffee mugs and tees
that say 'virginia is for lovers'
but it's not
'round here it's just for truckers who forgot
to fill up on gasoline
back up near aberdeen


also onstage, chris collingwood switched to an acoustic guitar after two or three songs and said something like, "see, it didn't take very long to go all country on your ass." at which point they played the new "fire in the canyon." which is kinda pretty but also kinda goes nowhere.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:21 (eighteen years ago)

agreed on the McBride, it seems like the ones with interesting words ("House of a Thousand Dreams," "Love Land") are dull musically while the more melodically engaging ones ("Everybody Does," "How I Feel") are lyrically inane.

much much better is Sarah Buxton's album; we covered her in the Stylus Jukebox a couple of months back with the terrific "That Kind of Day," which to me sounded more like teen-pop than country (even though she's at least in her mid-to-late 20s), just typical girl-pop stuff that's rich in specifics, about maxing out credit cards and hearing that mom thinks you've gained five pounds. the rest of the record holds up too - the concepts behind the songs might be fairly generic, but her verses are full of great details and a lot of humor - references to Kansas Jayhawks basketball, grandma watching Sex and the City, not to mention a ridiculously delightful song about crazy dreams brought on by too much wine, chocolate and pizza, one of which involves making mud pies with Kevin Spacey (?!).

she also wrote Keith Urban's hit "Stupid Boy" and tacks on her own version here, which is fine, though Urban's is still better.

JoshLove, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:29 (eighteen years ago)

the latter two:

well, not exactly the LATTER two.

Amy's fetchiness may well me on par

= Amy's FETCHINGNESS may well BE on par.

(blame the lack of sleep.)

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

good to see ya back, Chuck. As for LaVere's record, I guess she didn't really write any of my favorites here--I quite like "Tennessee Valentine" - and Carla Thomas' "That Beat." And Paul Taylor's "Pointless Drinking." the possibility that she just wants to be a comedian has crossed my mind. but yeah, pictures don't quite do her justice--she's a long tall drink of water and extremely striking in person. nice to talk to, unaffected.

anyone heard the Koch Dale Watson release Little Darlin' Sessions? Apparently he did these a while back and he's not happy with the results. I still have to play "You Always Get What You Always Got" from his new Hyena record like once a day. Anybody got a contact for Koch, if you have a second and can hit me offline here, would be great, don't think I've ever gotten anything from them and I'm doing something on Watson when he comes here to the Midnight Jamboree. Which again, if you find yourself in Nashville on a Saturday night and someone like Watson or Mel Tillis is playing out there, it's worth seeing--a slice of country music that you won't see anywhere else.

Listening again to the funk of LaVere's "People Get Mad." Sounds like an attempt to do a Rick Hall-style Muscle Shoals track, they obviously understand a thing or two about the funk but the track just dribbles away with not much of a point.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

O Brother, shut up with that Midnight Jamboree, it's killing me: June 6, at the Ryman, Marty Stuart & Superlatives host Neko, John Rich, Ashley Monroe, Eric Church, Pam Tillis, Porter Wagoner, Charlie Pride...

dow, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Good assortment of new tracks on Amy's MySpace. The conversational delivery is risky; think I'm missing some of the details in the verses, but she's got enough pop smarts to keep the momentum going, without working the choruses to death, as so often happens in pop country (and other approaches). She knows when to shut up and let the "Moroccan" fiddle have its way with Carla's "That Beat."("Moroccan" is what Dickinson calls it in a YouTube discussion of the album, also with Amy's comments, linked from the MySpace; it also reminds me of Scarlett or Scarlet Rivera's playing on Desire, and this song is kinda like those, but probably better). I think Edd originally said she was better live, and I'll try to check her on site archives of Woodsongs, but I remember liking the original broadcast, got a tape around here somewhere. Anyway, i don't see the problem with her so far, and have just asked for the promo.

dow, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

"Morrocon"? That doesn't look right either.

dow, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

"Boogie Woogie Saturday Night" by Big Al Downing = crazy wild-haired Jerry Lee-style rockabilly by a black man who keeps namedropping Reba Mcentire and David Allen Coe, for some reason. Pretty dang cool.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

I quite like "Tennessee Valentine"

I dunno, that one and "Train Is a Train" seem like they'd be a lot better with a more awake singer. But I do hear some semblance of something in those tunes, I suppose. Not sure I get the "possibility that she just wants to be a comedian" part; are you saying there are punchlines in her songs? Compared to, I dunno, Miranda and Gretchen (or even Sunny Sweeney) (or Lantana, or Bomshel, just to name some 2007 distaff country competition) Amy sure sounds humorless, though again, maybe I'm missing something she's hiding. (And then again, I tend to prefer short glasses of water myself. 5'2" is about perfect. But that's just a matter of personal taste of course.)

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

what's that Big Al song on, Chuck?

so finally figured out where I'd heard the name Calvin Owens (he's the bandleader on the greatest cut on the new Johnny Bush, the amazing, amazing big-band freakout "Free Soul," which just kills me). the rest of the record is real good but that song...wow. anyway, Owens was the bandleader for B.B. King for years. I guess I've always been about as immune to claims of Texascentricity as I am to anything else, but Kashmere Gardens makes me take at least some of my skepticism back.

Oh, I guess I mean that LaVere is trying to not take her "sources" seriously, which might also mean that she's a bit half-assed about what she's doing. Like on the CD cover she's holding some kind of spangled gun but she doesn't look threatening at all. In that first song her guy didn't come home until daybreak so she declares she'll have to kill him to make him stay, which the way she delivers it strikes me as some kind of joke. It could be I have just as strange a sense of humor as taste in women, who knows? and as Don points out, the gypsy fiddle in the Carla Thomas song is kind of funny, weird, something. Chuck points out something real interesting about the record I've noticed about other stuff, like the Cook record--the songs might just be better delivered with another voice that was more expressive, I get hung up on the sheer sound of the voices and it distracts me from what the songs might actually be saying. I know that Gretchen Wilson really sounds like she means exactly what she's saying on her new record, and I get the impression Gretchen is holding back in a way she's conscious of as if to say, don't fuck with me because I'm in a good mood and that could change, and if that's not a great trait in a woman--short, tall, bony maronie--I don't know what is. I've listened to LaVere's records a lot lately and my take on them changes every time I hear them. If I were King, I'd make her cut a far more rocking, rockabilly-type record, so this might be some typically out-of-step Memphis take on alt-country. There's some kind of potential there that might be submerged in an attempt to be a torch singer? I mean "Pointless Drinking" could be really grim or really funny and it sort of falls inbetween, if I'm making any sense this late in the day.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

Of course it does, and so does the one about killing her husband! And that's what I like about 'em.But the online bio says she was a punk singer in Detroit, in a band called Last Minute. That's pretty hard to imagine, unless it was really like Blondie or The Go-Gos, and not in their punkier early stages.

dow, Saturday, 28 April 2007 00:33 (eighteen years ago)

I linked to the Big Al Downing album just this morning, Edd; check upthread 15 threads or so.

Punk rock singer in Detroit, ay?? Yeah, pretty hard to believe. Reminds me I need to play the new Gore Gore Girls album that just came in the mail, though.

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 April 2007 00:42 (eighteen years ago)

"I'm not an actor but I act like I am/I might be awful but I act like I'm not...will I unharden and stop showing my ass" (or something like that)--"Pointless Drinking" totally reminds me of either Nellie McKay or Marit Larsen, I'm not sure which. And eh, you know, I'm just not that big a cabaret fan, you know? Detached cleverness for detached cleverness's sake, but not all that clever. I don't hate it or anything. But I really don't get this gal. She just sounds completely constrained to me.

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 April 2007 00:50 (eighteen years ago)

oh why oh why is that johnny bush record taking one million years to get to my house

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 28 April 2007 03:22 (eighteen years ago)

Damn that Big Al Downing album is mad great -- He really does not seem to acknowledge genre distinctions; rockabilly (Jerry Lee style or gospel-turning-Elvis stule in "Don't You Want to Go In Love With Me"), honky tonk cheating and cheated-on laments almost verging on ZZ Hill Southern soul, New Orleans r&b ("Blueberry Hill," "Let The Good Times Roll," an insanely great Professor Longhair style version of "Boll Weevil"), it all comes from the same place, and it all sounds as proudly country as his cowboy hat. "Father Number One" is a tribute to stepdad somewhere between the Winstons one and the Blaine Larsen one; even the patriotic tribute to our boys overseas "Hometown America" is pretty great for three for its first five and a half minutes or so. "Mr. Jones" is about "an old black country farmer" who happens across a family that mostly died in an accident; the white family takes him in as a sharecropper, and he's the only person the boy can turn to when he robs a bank and kills a man in Oklahoma. And his song introductions on the live disc, like the one where he talks about how when he was growing up his mom had 1200 mouths to feed but as you can see (he's extremely roly poly) he definitely got his fair share, are so funny and endearing that I actually think I'll even listen to the interview disc. (A couple times he cites Fats Domino as a big influence, which makes a lot of sense, obviously, and makes Al an anachronism in a very cool way. Or he was, I mean.)

Here is my review from the Voice of an album by him from a few years ago (I believe his last new one before he died, but it was hard to keep track):

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0337,eddy,46856,22.html


New Blake Shelton album in the mail today, Pure B.S. I'm looking forward to putting it on (and didn't even know until I read Jon Caramanica's Miranda Lambert piece in Sunday's Times that they're an item. I am so out of it sometimes.) (Just put the album on; first song that came up sounds great, nostalgia about the Beatles and Johnny Unitas and Martin Luther King and class reunions and disco sucks and ZZ Top that goes from 1963 to 9-11 in a couple minutes, with a melody way more effective than "We Didn't Start the Fire.")

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Second Blake song to come up also sounds great, and rockingly like "Already Gone" by the Eagles until John Anderson and George Jones show up (though what does "this land was our land but now it's their land" mean? Who the hell are "they"? It's called "The Last Country Song" apparently. (But then I put the CD changer back on random play.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

BTW, Country-rock on fine new all-covers Poison CD: "Can't You See", "Dead Flowers" (unless "You Don't Mess Around With Jim" counts -- "from South Alabama come a country boy," so maybe?) (I still need to go back and check what the lineup is.) (Mostly it's glam and powerpop, though. Fave track so far is a cover of Tom Petty's "I Need To Know.")

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

gotcha, Chuck. for a nice piece on Big Al where he talks about himself, chapter on him in Country Music Saved My Life, edited by my pal Yuval Taylor and written by Ken Burke. good book, btw, gets at some stuff most country books don't--the moment when the music takes over, I guess. great chapter as well on Freddie Hart--why on earth you can't get his Kapp stuff on CD is beyond me.
haven't gotten the Shelton record. wonder how the non-Bobby Braddock-produced stuff compares to the Braddock. now maybe we can agree that Miranda Lambert is pretty darned cute? and yeah, I have to admit that LaVere's record is mostly blah, as strenuously as I've tried to hear more in it--which I do sometimes. and D5, I think the Bush record will be worth the wait. I believe it's Johnny Bush Day in Houston this Sunday.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

agree that Miranda Lambert is pretty darned cute?

Let's just say Blake Shelton is a very, very lucky man. (And first track on his album, "This Can't Be Good," about getting caught with the sheriff's daughter dancing with an empty bottle on his car hood, has a TOUGH blues riff worthy of, well, the toughest blues riffs on Miranda's album. So she's been a good influence on him, too, it sounds like.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

So, sad news: First cursory listen (or "tracking through," I guess you'd call it -- I only played a couple of the songs from start to finish, so I could well be missing something) to the new Big 'N Rich album on my better half's stereo (as expected, it wouldn't play on mine) pointed toward a MAJOR fucking disappointment. The Wyclef Jean collab "Please Man" (rhymes with "don't call the policeman") reminded me of some jokey reggae-rap-inflected sub-Sublime '90s "alt rock" act, like, I dunno, Cake or whoever, with rap where Wyclef compares himself to Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson and Kenny Rogers and Charlie Daniels that's so clumsy it's embarrasing. And that's followed by the bluegrassed slowed-down de-rocked AC/DC cover, which I guess is supposed to be cute, and winds up being as dumb as when doofus nonentities like Hayseed Dixie or whoever do the same thing. (I mean, it's not even remotely an original idea for crissakes.) The actual AC/DC-like hard rock riffs in "Loud" and (if I'm remembering right) "Radio" seemed more useful, and also as loud as anything then band's done, yet not half as rocking as they've often been; the momentum (and the songwriting) just didn't seem to be there, though maybe it'll kick in. One of those two had some pretty blatant wah-wah; the other one, unless I'm getting mixed up with a different track entirely ("High Five" possibly? I wasn't taking notes), had a dancey, semi-synthesized beat that suggested mid '80s radio rock of some sort; another cut -- "Between Raising Hell and Amazing Grace, I think -- had a similar post-disco '80s CHR rhythm with a more light-r&b vocal style, I guess. And there seem to be plenty of dull ballads, though none of them as dull as John Legend's acapella intro to "Eternity." Also a gratuitous intro or two where Big Kenny rails preacher-style against "prejudice in music" or whatever, and by now it just sounds forced and tired. As does, at least on first listen, their whole damn shtick -- it's like they're already well on the way to becoming the joke/novelty band that morons and idiots and nincompoops and retards thought they were when they first came out. Unless I'm being a moron myself right now. Which I kinda hope I am.

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 April 2007 23:44 (eighteen years ago)

The slow songs on Blake Shelton's album generally seem a few levels below the fast songs (album would seem to be about 50/50, is my uncalculated guess), but I'm finding the '70s soft/country-rock breeze (Glen Campbell, maybe? Somebody like that) of "She Can't Get That" (as in "a shame she can't get that at home" -- Blake's okay with the girl cheating since she needs it, see) quite stirring. "Don't Care" seems okay, too. Beyond that, I'm not sure, but with the rockers he's basically batting 1.000.

xhuxk, Sunday, 29 April 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, this probably does not belong in this thread, but I respect you guys a lot, so I'm going to lay it on the line here and tell you all that I think the new Ike Reilly Assassination album, We Belong to the Staggering Evening, is fucking amazing. It's got a lot to do with electric Dylan but also a lot to do with country blues and fuzzed-out rock, lovely surprising poetic lyrics sneered out by a non-singer who knows his limitations and turns them into strengths. There's one song where he pulls the old switcheroo on us, a song about sex turns into an indictment of the war like ka-BLOOEY. Oh my god so in love with this record. One of my favorites of all time probably after two listens (small sample size I know but damn).

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

And there seem to be plenty of dull ballads, though none of them as dull as John Legend's acapella intro to "Eternity." Also a gratuitous intro or two where Big Kenny rails preacher-style against "prejudice in music" or whatever, and by now it just sounds forced and tired. As does, at least on first listen, their whole damn shtick -- it's like they're already well on the way to becoming the joke/novelty band that morons and idiots and nincompoops and retards thought they were when they first came out


I get the same feeling from their production of the new John Anderson, which is a disappointment to me--dull ballads and all. so I dunno. I was listening to "8th of November" the other day and I realized what it reminded me of was a Frank Zappa song, sort of like one of those strangely affectless 3/4 time songs on We're Only in It for the Money. overwork maybe, or they're not being Challenged?
D5, you make the Reilly record sound cool...
listening to some Nashville soul right now, this really excellent best-of on Clifford Curry...and saw some amazing Homer and Jethro footage last night, those guys were Compleat Entertainers and Jethro a monster mandolin player, all jazzy and refined...

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 29 April 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

Strange, I actually remember "Bonnie Blue" being a pretty great ballad on the John Anderson album; also really liked "Weeds," "Brown Liquor," and I forget what other cuts off the top of my head. I'll pull it back out this week, but I'm fairly certain it's a whole lot better than the Big'N'Rich album.

My hip-hop single of the year (probably), "Lip Gloss" by Lil Mama, has a country connection, it turns out, since it (along with much of her upcoming album, apparently) was masterminded by James "Groove" Chambers of Nappy Roots, who I think somebody voted for in the Nashville Scene poll once.

Crime Mob do not have a country connection, it turns out, but I like their new album after all anyway. Favorite cut: "Circles," for the sad soul samples, sad melody, and 3-6-Maffia-style st-st-st-st-st-st-st-stuttering production. Lotsa other fun cuts, too many to mention, and the crunk-shout/girl-verses mixture is often quite tasty, and they just seem really good-natured to me in general, somehow.

xhuxk, Sunday, 29 April 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

Now, see, Chuck, if you read EW (not that I'm doing a pitch here), you would have known about the Miranda/Blake thing sooner than if you waited for the NYT. I quoted her a week or two ago to this effect (well, it was all condensed down from this): "Poor Blake—I always tell him, “’Crazy Ex-Girlfriend’ could be your life story, so just know that.” And, when I asked if they'd ever tour or duet together, "We keep our careers really separate. We’re really, really competitive. Actually, I think our records are coming out on the same day, which is interesting. I already told him I was gonna kick his butt. So I’m doing a lot of press, hoping I’ll win."

Willman, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 05:33 (eighteen years ago)

So was I the only one who got the Big & Rich advance and didn't know it had an "A" side (ballads) and "B" side (uptempos)? I sat there for the first half of the album kind of slackjawed with the thought that they were actually putting out an all-ballads album. Well, I did see the AC/DC cover on the track list, so I knew something had to give eventually. Of course if you put it on random play you won't be struck by any such alarm bells. I have mixed feelings about this--as the defender of thoughtful song sequencing, I wonder if it might work better on random after all. (Apparently not, according to Chuck.)

Willman, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 05:38 (eighteen years ago)

Also, if you don't want to hear Kenny in preacher mode, be sure to avoid the new Bon Jovi, which has a random cameo of him doing just that. It's billed as a Big & Rich "duet" (I thought duets had to be two people--what do I know), so I guess that's John Rich doing the harmony vocals on the song to justify the billing. I can't remember the name of the track, but it sounds exactly like you would expect a Bon Jovi/Big & Rich mashup to, except that it's probably a low point for both acts. The duet with LeAnn Rimes also sounds like the parts were recorded in separate universes, and something about the lyrics, where they sing about being in bed together, is icky; I don't know if it's just because I still picture her as 16 or because there is something incestuous-seeming about their past or present hairstyles. I will admit to liking the partner-free opening and closing tracks, even if "Lost Highway" is yet another song title BJ probably shouldn't be lifting from a legend.

Willman, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 05:47 (eighteen years ago)

John Anderson's "Brown Liquor" rules. I got a little unofficial sampler of the then unfinished album last year, with that as track one. It's the kind of track that makes you stand up in your seat--even if you're driving--and say, yeah! So of course on the finished product they put it nearly at the end of the disc, hidden away as part of the Great Track Protection Program. (Fortunately, I like the nine or ten that come before it, too.) Or maybe you could call it "Suds in the Bucket" syndrome, since that classic was also tucked at the very end of a CD in hopes that no one would accidentally listen that long. I mean, quite deliberately.

Willman, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

yes, "Brown Liquor" is the cut. I need to get that Anderson record out again but I remember thinking it sounded vaguely dishonest, compromised, and goopy in the balladry. "Come to Bed" with John Rich works on the new Gretchen record (best stuff there are indeed the Detroit-meets-Charlie-Daniels rockers) in the context of the record I guess but it makes me think that B&R have no talent for the looove ballad. Icky.
did this interview w/ Marty Stuart yesterday as preview for his big collection of music memorabilia that'll be on display at the Tenn. State Museum. got to see Clarence White's psychedelic blue leather vest and his guitar, handwritten Johnny Cash lyrics, Emmylou's boots (no panties), lots more, about 1000 pieces out of 20,000 on display. Marty was cool, talked about the new Porter Wagoner record and "Rubber Room" and suchlike. got a copy of the Wagoner Anti- record and guess I'll spin it today.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

Man I love Marty Stuart, dude is awesome.

Here's a stream of Ike Reilly's first single from this record, "When Irish Eyes Are Burning": http://vista.streamguys.com/jspiewak/ira_irish.wma

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

Jimmy Draper says there are four Miranda Lambert tracks not on the basic release:

--Target's version has: "I Just Really Miss You and "Take It Out On Me"
--iTunes' has "Girl Like Me"
--Best Buy has "Nobody Used To Be"

Anybody heard any of these?

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Think Ike Reilly is appropriate for this thread. The song reminds me of Springsteen in a good way: story teller, open hearted, the romanticism of normal guys in normal fuckups. And lacks Bruce's bellow, fortunately. Don't know yet if I'd say he turns his flaws into strengths, but he does know how to make his nondominating voice have at least some impact. Think the track would have been better without the Irish chorus, the tunefulness of which interrupts the headlong nature of the music.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

But that is his whole thing, interrupting his own flow, going back to his first record, the elegantly fucked-up Salesmen and Racists. Also, "Irishness" rearing its ugly/pretty head at the completely wrong time is the theme of the song, more or less. So yeah, maybe "better," but very un-Reilly.

This is only about the fourth-best track on the record, by the way. It starts with a rockabilly gospel number about how Jesus and the Devil are fighting over him and how the whole thing's gonna end in flames. It also has an instrumental track called "Bugsy Salcido Has Fled the Desert" and a Phil Spector-sounding song about hot plain girls and a song that reminds me of the Del Fuegos covering Nirvana or maybe the other way around.

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

MIRANDA LAMBERT OH MY GOD!!!

i know you've all had the miranda album for weeks (months, maybe) but i just got it and it's the best record i've heard in a long time. of the singles i'd already heard, i kinda like "famous in a small town" and i kinda don't like "crazy ex-girlfriend" -- a little bit too on-the-nose for her -- but neither of 'em came close to preparing me for the album.

favorites so far are "dry town" -- how on earth did that one emerge from the pen of gillian welch? -- "gunpowder & lead," which is kinda like kerosene times three (what's she gonna kill him with on her next album, an A-bomb?), "love letters," which musically is very gram parsons and which i played about 11 times in a row yesterday, and "guilty in here."

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

so, the John Anderson ballads on the new one aren't quite as bad as I remembered, he pulls them off relatively OK. I guess I find Big and Rich's production just cold, somehow, and featureless (although there's a nice eerie steel bit on one of the slower ones). the whole trick of the ominoso fiddle they use I find tiresome, and anyway John Anderson needs to be more soulful--I just find the whole presentation synthetic, in the bad old Nashville manner. but a couple of great tracks. I give it a B.

Lacy Younger's "Still Wild" title track (Big Deal Records) starts off with an obvious Stones rip, a hanging-in-mid-air Keef riff and basic rock and roll chord progression #5, and she sings not like a country singer but she kinda sounds tart like Bettye LaVette or someone. She used to be a tough girl and took the curves at 95. She's still wild, and I suppose this is no Banger Sisters shit, she looks pretty young. Definitely a species of oversinging but it's not bad. I guess she's supposed to be a "mature" rock chick. More rueful self-knowledge on "Here's to You," which is another Stones rip circa Sticky Fingers except she's not on smack or coked out, altho her voice throughout is just ravaged enough. Nice gams on the back and that's a drawing (I think) of a flower around them but at first it looked like barbed wire. Recorded in California and the insert has more pictures of Lacy, another leg shot, one of her running along a pier of some sort at dusk or sunup in shorts and a white sort of underwear top and a crucifix, judging from the gams she runs a good bit. wrote most of the songs herself and tell the truth I enjoy this, just basic rock and roll with occasional cowbell and it sounds like she really wants to be a soul mama. pretty interesting.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

)"Pointless Drinking" totally reminds me of either Nellie McKay or Marit Larsen, I'm not sure which.

Yeah, I was going to say. Of course Marit is way way better: better timing, the fact that she's used to being shy and playing second fiddle so she's developed this skill of flicking drops of small-voiced sulfuric acid at you. I think LaVere has moments where she could half do this, when the song is good ("Killing Him" yes, "Pointless Drinking"* no). The quietness isn't mere restraint, but she needs more nonquietness to play off of. I'm going solely by what's on her MySpace. And indeed I'd class her more with Fiona and Bjork and even PJ than with country, I'd say.

(*As opposed to purposeful drinking?)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

And in the MySpace battle of the Amys, I'm not sure if LaVere loses to Dalley. I'm more moved by Amy Dalley's voice by a long shot, but Dalley doesn't have the songs - I mean, they're good, but not great. (But listening to them now, she clearly does beat LaVere.) Where Dalley's songs go country they're at their weakest, lose impact. Maybe my hearing has shifted, what with all these rock riffs and Sheryl-n-Jewel-voiced singers these days, but when Dalley jumps from the rock to the wailing country chorus in "I Built The Wall," the chorus sounds like just a style she's putting on. (Not quite sure what I'm saying. Maybe I simply think the melodies get wanky in the choruses.)

Haven't heard either of the Dalley songs mentioned upthread, mind you.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

I never really remotely understand what Edd means when he says country albums sound "dishonest" to him (though to be fair he did explain more later about why he thinks the production gets in the way), but you know what? I've been playing the John Anderson album the past couple days, and it's fine. At least as good as, say, the new Pam Tillis album; probably better. And the best ballads on it ("Bonnie Blue," somehow about race and the South and maybe orchestrated too long at six minutes but still lovely; "Weeds," just really dejected == "don't wanna hear how times are hard gotta pull the weeds from my own backyard"; "Something To Drink About," a vaguely calypso-lilting marriage warning -- "if you like the nightlife more than a good wife...") stack up to most of the non-ballads, my favorite of which, yeah, is easily "Brown Liquor" (makes me crazy quicker than an old red fox on the run and I get t-t-t-tongue tied and lose my mind and everything comes undone), but "Easy Money" (what musicians make on the road, which is a lot of hard work) is not far behind, maybe "Funky Country" too. The Hawaiian sound of "Willie's Guitar" almost makes up for its obligatory album-ending-song-about-Willie-why-would-anybody-give-a-fuck pandering, and the only song I come close to actively disliking, I think, is probably "You Already Know My Love," which despite its sogginess at least has half a melody reminiscent of "Easy" by the Commodores. Need to listen to the remaining cuts (especially the remaining ballads) a little closer, still, but all that adds up to a pretty good album in my book--especially with Jawn's honeyed whiskey drawl, which still really hold up to my ears, singing it all. So why complain, guys?

xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

As for "Funky Country" (which to my ears actually isn't as funky as "Easy Money" or "Brown Liquor"), it's still a really good idea, and I'm glad that it exists. And "A Woman Knows," "If Her Lovin Don't Kill Me" (very timid first single choice) and "I Can't Make Her Cry Anymore" are fairly generic, but also all fairly crafty, not bad. (And now I'm realizing that the opening orchestrations of the strange "Bonnie Blue" kinda bring to mind the opening of the admittedly superior "Seminole Wind," another stretched-out song about the south.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, "Funky Country" sort of gets at what I grope toward when I say "dishonest," Chuck, as I sometimes do. there B&R's shtick has hardened a bit--got it. but Anderson rides right over the lyrics, he really makes them come alive. I find the obvious homage to '80s production styles (the piano sound in "Bonnie Blue" for example, and this is also a higher-grade Alabama song that is also somehow good) not to my taste, and the calculated dishonesty of that '80s country shit I hate, like Alabama, seems to me part of Big & Rich's aesthetic, a big part. what's honest about this record, though, is its sentimentality, which Anderson earns on virtually every cut. I mean "Bonnie Blue" actually works, in the end; the high-gloss production overall strikes me as relatively depthless--and that's a complaint about Nashville mastering, really, as well as production I think I'm well justified to make. what made the last B&R record not quite work (for me; I did like the big-beat shit and thought the phased-out pop was also real interesting) was the tension between what they kinda sorta want to be as populists and what they kinda sorta are trying to do that's "subversive" but it's only only subversive by the standards of Nashville, which once kind of rejected them. so I think they're frustrated like subversive '80s artists (or early '90s artists, like Beck or someone) taking their revenge on Nashville. so they compress the vocals too much just to put that idea in your face, and they're comin' to yr. shitty. anyway I've been listening to Easy Money and its overstatement mostly does really work and the goopy ballads aren't really ballads but Anderson's story-songs and it breathes fairly well. just wish there seemed to more ideas than combining a kickdrum with the ominoso fiddle (and "Something to Drink About" does go somewhere even in the arrangement), but I guess that's their idea of sending up or celebrating something or another.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

saw the video for Martin McBride's "Anyway," where she's kind of in this Lynchean blue-lit celestial bar, and it appears she can read the minds of all the yearning searchers she sees from up above. one woman's word baloon is "I want to be famous," a guy's is "I miss her," and so forth. she looks handsome, a gamine of a certain age. so I finally pulled out Waking Up Laughing and it's her big certainty-of-life move and lotsa modal rock guitar on the first two songs, and definitely she's trying hard to be a liberal, trying to find a reason as she sings, but that's about her guy who thinks she uses too much makeup. the opening riff of "For These Times" communicates that bad-news-in-the-morning-coffee fake angst that pop can do so well ("Five o'Clock World" and for that matter the opening to "Ask for Jill" by the dB's, and I mean "For These Times" is like a good Peter Holsapple or Gin Blossoms song, nice warm chord substitutions and a polite mandolin obliggato in there. I think she's saying the Redeemer is the man for these times we live in. boy, she hits some doozies of a note in this one, I mean the breath control is amazing but she also sounds just kind of worried about her artistic direction so she's going all sisterly and serious and soulful (nice female backing vocals on the fade of "For These Times," maybe Mavis Staples could've done it). "Anyway" has childlike piano plinks and sure enough, "one storm could go and blow it all away" just like a house of cards. "Dream it anyway," so that's it, and she is definitely working the Jesus side of the fence here, genteel Calvinsim: "God is great but sometimes life ain't good," but she perseveres. the video is more creepy than the song although the strings are really nice on this, this is better than Coldplay by a mile.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

also, on the closing track "Love Land" McBride renders "modern medicine" paired with "Thomas Edison" and it's a song about how God is the ultimate healer despite all progress, I think, and it's apparently also about her mate? so, a sexy enough Christian if no Amy Grant.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

they compress the vocals too much

I'm embarrassed to say that I've never learned what "compressed" means in the context of recording. Any easy way to explain it?

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 02:45 (eighteen years ago)

My hip-hop single of the year (probably), "Lip Gloss" by Lil Mama

Lil Mama is on the remix of Rihanna's "Umbrella." I like Lil Mama's rapping more than Jay-Z's, these days.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa. Miranda Lambert on the cover of No Depression.

mulla atari, Thursday, 3 May 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, she's all over the print media. I just bought the cd on sale for $10 at Circuit City so I probably do not have any of those extra songs Frank mentioned up thread. Will check later.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 May 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, good piece on Miranda in ND, I thought. just caught the last chords of her doing "famous in a small town" on TV in NYC.

frank, compression in recording just means squeezing the high-low frequencies into a smaller aural "space," just like taking a rubber ball and making it fit into a box too small for it. this makes everything easier to then boost at a later stage, like mastering. makes it easier for radio to deal with, bigger disparities between high-low frequencies don't come across so well on radio. in general, Nashville recording techniques result in music that sounds flat but big, as opposed to spacious but big. the best example of this is the last big and rich record--the vocals are just RIGHT THERE, not exisiting in any offsetting space at all, and also in general one big thing Nashville does is to get rid of that space that old recordings seem to exist in, so there's no contrast. compression and boosting also result in a record like that last Go-Betweens record, where everyhing has been turned into a high-def aural picture in which the various elements sound, simply, too fucking loud. it really screwed up that record.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

This is really the best recent piece on compression, Frank, from the site you've lately been gracing with your presence:

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/weekly_article/imperfect-sound-forever.htm

JoshLove, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

no kidding, Josh, that's just an amazing piece. I'll add that even records that really sound pretty good--a bunch of them coming out of Nashville these days, like the latest Greencards record--are also compressed way more than you would notice, it's just that it sounds different when you do it to voices and acoustic instruments than if you do it to the Stooges or the Go-Betweens (whose last record I love, musically, but it really is kind of wearing to listen to over a superior system, it's just all crashing in there together and too goddamned LOUD. I mean, I'm really no analogue fuddyduddy at all and I like things to sound good, but there's a limit (to limiting).

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

Haven't looked at that article, but does it explain what compression sounds like? Because I doubt I'd know it if I heard it. (I might not know auto-tune either, come to think of it. Hi Frank.)

Wanted to put in another plug for this seemingly unique English language honky-tonk with Spanish langauge Tejano translations album I mentioned a couple months ago. I actually wound up liking his singing, songs, and production more as time went on (though I still can't stomach his song about 9-11):

http://cdbaby.com/cd/gabelopezmusic

xhuxk, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

kind of wearing to listen to over a superior system

Well, Edd, if you borrow my shitty stereo, maybe that'll solve the problem! We can trade if you want.

xhuxk, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

Ha! naw, Chuck, mine is also pretty shitty. I depends upon the kindnessess of my more affluent friends to try to listen to stuff all audiophile and everything. my buddy Blair has like this Rega turntable and some kind of tube-driven pre-amp shit and you hear things you never heard before. on the other hand, that audiophile stuff can make you snide about things and that's not my intention. the best way I can put it, to answer Chuck's question, is that the records don't exist in a recognizable aural space--they're flat and there's no contrast between the different parts of the recording.

my temporarily pressed into service Memorex DVD/CD player does OK but it won't play a bunch of stuff. one point the above-linked piece makes is that "music critics" should listen to music on the best stuff they can afford. exactly. in my opinion, part of what makes Nashville Nashville is this technical stuff, this is the world capital of all that.

if I could upgrade just a little I'd be happy, and I definitely need better speakers. paying my dentist and my phone bill takes precedence, though.

anybody heard Carrie Underwood's Pretenders song "I'll Stand by You" on iTunes?

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

One thing that makes a big difference, and can be less trouble than getting new speakers etc. is good headphones. Mine are Sony MV7, or something like that; anyway, they were highest rated in Consumer Reports, ca. '89. edd, you were whisperin vs. "8th of November," but I like the way the lost patrol goes round and round with the fiddle, like they're hanging on the helicopter getting 'em outta there.Big & Rich are calling and calling, steadfast but alarmed. It's the only post-"Angry American" war song I've heard much on the radio, and of course it's about Vietnam...

dow, Friday, 4 May 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

(Xhuxk: "Umbrella Remix" f. Lil Mama)

Thanks Edd and Josh for the compression info. Like Xhuxk, I don't know if I'd be able to identify compression if I heard it.

Also, I've never been able to tell by listening that something's been auto-tuned, and Eppy's said that when he tried to use auto-tune he found that it couldn't do all that much. So I don't know if I overrate auto-tune or not, since I can't tell when it's being used. But I'm thinking that if it could put things in tune, then there are times when it would be a good thing, depending on whether the people who were using it were idiots or not. (Editing is the writing equivalent of auto-tune, and again, it depends on the editor whether it helps or hurts.) Anyway, what Xhuxk's really saying is that I underrate some out-of-tune singing. (But, like auto-tune, out-of-tune depends on how it's used.)

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 5 May 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

The 1997 remaster of Raw Power reaches an extraordinary -4dB, making it supposedly the loudest rock record

And it was terrible compared to the original version (which had problems too). But my guess is that Iggy blew it in a lot of ways, not just in the compression but in the mixing.

(Don't know if I'd end up agreeing or disagreeing with Nick, if I knew more. In general, I think modern music sounds great. But Avril's "Girlfriend" irritates the hell out of me, despite my basically liking the song, and maybe the way they punched up the volume has to do with my dislike of it. I much much much prefer the sound of the Shirelles' "Mama Said" (for instance) to the sound of "Girlfriend," and I'd always assumed this has to do with music makers having had a better sense of how to do fun and lilt in the early '60s in comparison to how producers and engineers and performers (and audiences) go for fun and lilt now; but maybe the lack of compression has something to do with my preference, too. But I'll bet my preference for noncompression is selective.)

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:35 (eighteen years ago)

Carrie Underwood's version of "I'll Stand By You". YouTube sound, so not the greatest; she sings it nicely, but I have issues with the video, though maybe it was the best way to raise money: it's a charity single. Girls Aloud recorded the same song as a charity single several years ago. (Better vid.)

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 5 May 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

One thing that makes a big difference, and can be less trouble than getting new speakers etc. is good headphones.

If you actually enjoy listening with headphones, maybe (I don't, at all, unless I'm deejaying.)

Ike Reilly album sounds very dull to me so far. Horn parts have more life than the talk-singing, which ickily reminds me more of Dan Bern than Bruce Springsteen. But I've only listened to a few cuts.

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 May 2007 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

Now I wish somebody would explain to me why I'm liking this new Jan Bell so much when Jan usually can't bother to summon up enough energy to even annunciate most of the words in a comprehensible way, plus most of it is done at a near-funeral dirge tempo. (Though "Leavin' Town" is at least a midtempo gallop, and clearly about, well, leavin' town.) Anyway, you'd think I'd hate such stuff. Guess what I like is the melodies. Which I believe are largely minor key, though don't quote me on that. And actually, the whole goth-folk mood of the thing reminds me more of what I like about lady-led European dark metal bands like the Gathering than what I like about anything on this country thread, though the instrumentation and so on are clearly more country than metal. Most goth moment: the spooky witchy background mourning howls and bats in the belfry thumpdy-bumping about in "Miners." Other favorites: "January Morning," "Given," "Ships in the Air." And here's her link again, just in case:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/jbcheapdates

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 May 2007 12:35 (eighteen years ago)

(Just noticed "Snake Song" is by Townes Van Zandt.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 May 2007 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

Guess what I like is the melodies. Which I believe are largely minor key

And which are also largely beautiful, if I didn't get that point across. As is Jan's low-key singing.

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 May 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

Thankfully, I don't know who or care who Dan Bern is!

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 5 May 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

Dan Bern's a sorta Graham Parker-style singer/songwriter, literary division, whose last album Breathe I thought could've been a decent enough heartland kind of thing. wasn't terrible and I detected a sense of humor. I liked it enough to write a brief preview of his Nashville show but not enough to really listen to it afterwards.

I'm in the middle of doing something on Animal Collective, just thought I'd mention that boy were you ever right Chuck, about the difference between their earlier atmospheric/raucous/drunken shit and what they do lately, which hits me like the Beach Boys' Love You gone self-consciously native.

Compadres, the new duets comp with Marty Stuart and friends, is mostly boring. Stuart should sing "The Weight" to himself in the shower and much as I love Mavis Staples (whose new Ry Cooder-produced record was aptly summed up by Soul Brother #3, my buddy Dave Duncan, as "plenty of soul but no funk, so go home"), she can't do it either. But I do like the ZZ Top intro to "One Woman Man" with George Jones. The one sort of inspired moment is the Fab Superlatives and Old Crow Medicine Show doing "I Can See for Miles" off of that country klassic, The Who Sell Out. All it needs is a fake commercial for Ford Trucks or Goo-Goo Clusters or super-tough weed-eater string.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 5 May 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

and speaking of J. Robbie Robertson and songs that sound good when the Band does them but not so good elsewhere (and I mean, try to imagine someone else doing, oh, "Caledonia Mission" off that first Band record--the interplay of the voices and the general angst of the Band seems to be the point, along with the virtuoso ensemble playing), Richard Shindell does "Acadian Driftwood," from the third-best Band record, on South of Delia, which I suppose belongs on this thread. His voice bugs me, it's folkie vibrato, and while the man sounds intelligent and a good person in love with the Planet, and he picks some good songs like "Deportee" and "Lawrence, KS," nothing ever builds here, which means he's not as smart as Robbie Robertson. Loosen up! Still, "Acadian Driftwood" is almost a good song, it's a good song, it's hard to decide because the Band's vocalizing is imbedded in my brain and I'm a fan of Manuel's singing--where the Band sounds natural mourning the counterculture in the guise of History on their version, and can get away with a line like "what went down on the Plains of Abraham," Shindell just sounds kinda dorky. This kind of record just taxes me--I'm allergic to this kind of folkiedom, even when you get high-quality people like Richard Thompson and Victor Krauss helping out, and Thompson's guitar on one track definitely makes it sound better.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 5 May 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

one last thing and then I'm out into the 98% humidity-soup of this day--we need the rain. new Porter Wagoner isn't killing me on first listen, he tells some stories out of the past and the record's framed by an intro that asserts that "the Wagonmaster is coming." sings a little better than Charlie Louvin (they're the same age). haven't heard any "Rubber Room"-style psychodramas yet but maybe they're reserved for the latter half of the record, or maybe I just need more coffee to combat this insomnia that doesn't wanna quit.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 5 May 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

Don't really get the Dan Bern/Graham Parker comparison; here's a song to stream and long discussion (which I partake in) on the guy:

http://paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=104

"When Irish Eyes Are Burning" on Ike Reilly's album does have some momentum to it; sounds pretty good. More cuts like that, and maybe I'll be sold. But mainly he's been striking me as bland and precious.

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

"Fish Plant Uprising" okay too (basically, when he speeds up, I don't mind how boring his singing is.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 May 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

if "it's hard to make love to an american" and "you're so plain" and "let's get friendly" don't sell you on this one, chuck, then you aint never gonna get it

i don't think this is as good as sparkle in the finish but i still think it's got enough for me to love it a lot a lot a lot

sad to say i'm not surprised about marty stuart's album kinda sucking, i hate duets albums and it would seem to bring out all of his worst tendencies

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 5 May 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

oh, Chuck, on some of the last record Dan Bern sounded to me just like Costello or Graham Parker, right down to his vocals. new wave.

the Stuart record doesn't suck--it's just boring, plus Marty isn't the world's deepest singer or anything. Porter's record gets going, some, and there's one pretty good song about a woman who has to hot-wire the world--it's about rock and roll, sort of.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 5 May 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

Bern's got one song on Breathe, "Tongue-Tied," where he sounds like he's trying to sound like John Lennon. It's embarrassing but has a nice melody and is one of the better songs on the album; I'd have a lot more respect for Bern if he sounded like he were trying to sound like Ian Hunter or Sonny Bono. The title song, the one which garnered a subtly critical review in Paper Thin Walls, sounds like he's trying to sound like Dylan on Blood On The Tracks, and is a hair less laughable than "Tongue-Tied," and has a tune.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 5 May 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

anyone know why randy travis spends so much time touring casinos? seems more likely he's preaching to the sinners than he likes the gaming, right?

gabbneb, Sunday, 6 May 2007 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

guess Travis makes big money playing the casinos?

interesting on Dan Bern over at PTWs--I never can understand how publicists get exercised when a critic like Frank nails the appeal of one of their artists. Dan Bern wants us to think he's a fool! An American holy fool in love with baseball, rock and roll--just tryin' to make sense of it all.

xps

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 6 May 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

re-posted from metal thread; putting it here because "sweet potato" sounds sorta country to me for some reason (the melody i guess) and link wray was sort of a rockabilly, right? plus the gore gores, no doubt wanda jackson fans, have done songs named "country man" and "cattle call" in the past. (ps: steve whiteman used to sing for kix; funny money is his new band. just so you understand.)

Gore Gore Girls' new album, though, is even better. I know this at least in part because, when "Loaded Heart" (which might not even be my favorite track on it) came up, I was thinking, "damn this is BY FAR the best track on this Funny Money album," but it wasn't Funny Money even though Amy Surdu's voice sure did sound like Steve Whiteman's at the time. It was those "Cool Jerk"/Motown basslines in a loud rock context that did it for me, I think. Probably the best dance-rock I've heard by anybody this year, on an album that's in the running now with Trigger Renegade and Miranda Lambert as topping my 2007 list so far. Other favorites, some of which appeared previously on an EP and some of which didn't, include "Fox in a Box," "All Grown Up" (which reminds me of my daughter Cordelia), the viciously quotable and partially talked you-don't-own-me song (though I won't quote it) "Pleasure Unit," "You Lied To Me Before," the very hard rocking "Mary Ann," "Sweet Potato" (the most country track probably), and the Link Wray style guitar instro George needs to hear "Hammer Stomp." That's most of the album. The rest is swell, too.

Also listening this weekend to Jimmy Ray's bizarre post-George Michael-doing-"Faith" pompadoured fake funkabilly self-titled album from ten years ago (which produced the top 40 hit "Are You Jimmy Ray"); for some reason, a copy ended up on the free table at work Friday. What an odd, fun, record. As close to Rednex as to the Stray Cats, really, yet not really techno at all. I'm not sure WHAT to compare it to. (Where was he from again? And, related question, didn't the UK have a cheesy fake rockabilly revival in the '80s? How much did Culture Club/Bow Wow Wow/whatever style "new pop" influences fit into that? Hopefully a whole lot.)

"What I Wouldn't Give", ballad on new Blake Shelton album which I orignally thought was way too sappy, has an eerie spacious spare sound that I'm now a convert to. As does "She Can't Get That" maybe.

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 May 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe Jimmy Ray could be compared to "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" by Queen, or "Delerious" and/or "Horny Toad" by Prince? But he's maybe less rockabilly than the former, more than the latter. ("Tired of Toein' the Line" by Rocky Burnette??)

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 May 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

Also in the tradition of early '60s teenybopper fakeabilly by...I dunno, Bobby Rydell I guess? (How rockabilly were Fabian and Frankie Avalon at the time?) (Ricky Nelson is too authentic a comparison!)

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 May 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, "Way Low" on the Jimmy Ray album sounds kinda like if some semi-dancehall reggae guy like Shinehead attempted a rockabilly number with lots of Elvis hiccups in it. (Man, if the Wyclef song on the new Big'N'Rich sounded this cool, I'd be happy.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 May 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

And hmmm, Ray's "Look Inside Your Love" is either a BLATANT "Mmmbop" rip, or vice versa (they were both the same year, 1997! Anybody know which came first?)

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 May 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

So okay, I get it now -- What Blake Shelton is doing in his ballads (the two I mentioned a couple posts ago, and "I Have Been Lonely" too it turns out) is keeping up with the empty-honky-tonk post-Bakersfield sound of, obviously, Gary Allan; maybe some Mavericks and Dwight Yoakam in there too? And the non-ballad "The More I Drink," which I like a lot (guy says that drinking causes him to drink more -- it's self-perpetuating in other words, which is true!), has a little of Toby's barroom Dixieland jazziness in it. I also love "The Last Country Song," especially the bizarre, partially Bobby-Braddock-written this-was-our-land-til-"they"-took-it-away-from-us pathology of it (basically the idea is that "the city" is spreading out into spaces that used to be rural, which is of course true, but the subtext is uh, IMMIGRANTS, obviously -- fucked up especially given the chorus's Woody Guthrie reference), though I could live without John Anderson's and George Jone's gratutious cameos at the end. Also love the Chris Knight-penned loser anthem (featuring arson) "It Ain't Easy Bein' Me" (becoming a jerk is hard work!). Great album, overall - second only to his girlfriend's album as far as country albums this year go, as far as I'm concerned. (Bizarre, though: Up above I mentioned a sort of "We Didn't Start The Fire"-type catologue of baby-boom historical events song, and damned if I can figure out which track it is now! Maybe I just imagined it, or it's a hidden track way after the closer, or the shuffle function of my CD player confused me and it was someobody else entirely?? I keep tracking through the whole CD; where is it??)

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 May 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

And okay, I just figured something else out (when I should have been cooking chicken in the kitchen instead): Track 10 of Jimmy Ray's CD, "Free At Last," more "You Can't Hurry Love" and teenpop than rockabilly is on (actually, probably half of his tracks are rockabilly-free, especially the sort of miniature George Michael blue eyed soul numbers, like "Trippin On Baby Blue" etc), and I realized the real precedent for his bubblebilly is probably early '80s Brit pop stars Westworld, of "Sonic Boom Boy" fleeting fame. I liked them a lot, too! (Though sadly, I don't have their album anymore.)

AMG on Jimmy Ray:

Fusing a neo-rockabilly image with contemporary dance-pop rhythms, singer Jimmy Ray was born and raised in East London, where he grew up on a steady diet of classic Elvis, Cliff Richard and Tommy Steele singles. He later surfaced in a techno duo called A.V., recording an album which went unreleased; upon mounting a solo career, Ray was signed by manager Simon Fuller, the same impresario who launched the Spice Girls to superstardom. His debut single, "Are You Jimmy Ray?," was issued in the UK in late 1997, becoming a hit both at home and in the U.S.; a self-titled LP followed the next year.

AMG on Westworld:

Led by the other one from Generation X (not Billy Idol or Tony James, but guitarist Bob "Derwood" Andrews), Westworld also included American vocalist Elizabeth Westwood and drummer Nick Burton. Named after the 1973 Disneyland disaster film, the trio applied pop sensibilities to the punk and post-punk forms Andrews had been immersed in, and hit number 11 on the British charts with their 1987 single "Sonic Boom Boy." The group's only subsequent Top 40 success was "Ba-Na-Na-Bam-Boo," later that year, another single from the Westworld debut album Rockulator. Second album Beat Box Rock 'N' Roll followed in 1988, but 1991's Movers & Shakers was the trio's last.

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 May 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

And beyond that of course there's the whole dang rockabilly-party-on-saturday-night '50s revival coursing back through Brit TOTP pop at least as far back as glam rock, duh. (This is having less and less to do with "country" as I go on, isn't it? Sorry.) Hey kids summertime blues jump up and down in your blue suede shoes. (Wow, I just realized I don't think I've ever heard a Shakin' Stevens song.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 May 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

From teen-pop thread (where I should probably shift my Jimmy Ray talk to, now that I think of it):

Plus I just noticed that Jimmy's "Goin to Vegas" contains references to both "White Lines" by Grandmaster Flash (via "Let's Dance" by Bowie?) and whatever jump-blues song said "take it right back to the track, Jack" ("Choo Choo Ch'Boogie" by Louis Jordan, I think?) (So the mid '90s Cherry Poppin Daddies "swing revival" might figure here as well.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 May 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

One thing that helped his popology, liked it helped mine: he also managed a record store, I think, but didn't recruit his clerks for his band, unlike Hungry Chuck Cleaver or Whatchamacallit that ran The Coolies. What I like best about the song is that his chorus girls ask him, "Are you Link Wray? Are you Johnnie Ray?" or anyway drop their names, and he's somewhere in between those two (although not as intense as either), who are fave raves of mine.And both had something to do with country, in dif ways. Mentions a bunch of other Rays, but leaves out Barry Hannah's Ray, which is quite possibly the greatest novel ever written about or set in Tuscaloosa(how's that for classical qualified hyperbole)

dow, Sunday, 6 May 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

(listening to a song on the radio: haven't quite yet got who's doing what to whom, but it's a quietly shapely tune about stoned beauty, in the sunshine of your oblivious love, some velvet morning by your gate, and on TCM, Paul Newman's just met Piper Laurie, they're sitting in a booth in the bar in the gray daylight, they're talking and he's watching her get wasted, although she's getting her courage up, the stoned song baby's been there done that)("Morphine" something by Gillian Welch and David Rawlings, and this is a live show, they're way better live, has always been my impression)

dow, Sunday, 6 May 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

(Bizarre, though: Up above I mentioned a sort of "We Didn't Start The Fire"-type catologue of baby-boom historical events song, and damned if I can figure out which track it is now!

That's funny--when I'd finished listening to Pure BS the first time, I thought, "I must have missed that history song Chuck wrote about."
It would be interesting to hear something like that from someone other than Kenny Rogers--pretty much every line of that song makes me wince, particularly the Eminem reference. The Blake Shelton album is pretty great anyway.

mulla atari, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:49 (eighteen years ago)

well, the label won't send me Pure BS or for that matter the finished John Anderson record. So I haven't heard Shelton yet. So Bobby Braddock is anti-immigrant, or what, in "The Last Country Song"? He's saying somehow that "immigrants" are causing city to slop over into country? Where I sit, people of color have nothing to do with it except for the dirty work--in this rural suburbia I'll be leaving soon, I see like at least 80 houses being built, big McMansions out in the middle of a field and they're laying sewer lines and there's a new Mexican joint with the usual mediocre fare. All these people living out here and there's nowhere for them to go, and nowhere for them to walk, run or do much of anything that you can't do in a car. A few black families, from Ft. Campbell, but it's almost all white and if there are any "immigrants" I don't know where they are, certainly not in any of these new McMansions. So I got to hear that song, if they'll deign to send me the records.


in the US, wasn't the first big wave of rockabilly revival in the very early '80s? Buzz and the Flyers and the Panther Burns? As for modern country, the best rockabilly-influenced record I've heard in ages is Shawn Camp's Fireball from maybe 2 years ago.

xps

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 7 May 2007 08:35 (eighteen years ago)

"Last Country Song" really doesn't say anything about immigrants (though the chorus--"This land was our land, but now it's their land" could surely appear out of context in a Pat Buchanan screed). It's about a roadhouse being torn down by some developer from the city, and all the folk come together to sing the place out in style. There's talk of the city getting closer everyday, but doesn't city tend to signify African-American culture?--as in "Play Something Country" when the DJ plays P Diddy and Ronnie doesn't want to hear "something bumpin' from the city."

mulla atari, Monday, 7 May 2007 09:02 (eighteen years ago)

though the chorus--"This land was our land, but now it's their land" could surely appear out of context in a Pat Buchanan screed).

Yeah, that was my point - I mean, obviously, this is the line you'd yell along to if you drunkenly heard the song on the bar in a jukebox. The other lyrics are more subtle; not even sure I got the roadhouse being torn down part until Mulla explained it. Anyway, I'm not saying Bobby Braddock or Blake Shelton or anybody else is anti-immigrant, or racist, or anything else. (And I do agree, the incursion of "city" culture might imply more black people than Hispanic people.) My point is just that, intentionally or not (and hey -- Braddock's a smart guy; hard to think he didn't know exactly what he was doing) that chorus has the potential to push some very real butttons, at least when taken out of context of the rest of the song, which really wouldn't be difficult since the chorus really stands out. Whatever, either way, as I said, it's a great track, and a great idea for a song. When we were on the road last month, urban commuter sprawl from Washington DC had spread all the way to Shepherdstown, West Virgina, on the Maryland border. It's getting very hard to get away from it!

xhuxk, Monday, 7 May 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I just solved the "We Didn't Start The Fire" song mystery! It wasn't Blake at all. It's "Just Yesterday" off this (previously unmentioned here) cdbaby album by self-released Southern rockers Ed White and the Next of Kin, which just happened to be in the CD changer when I initially put Blake in. Sorry! Now I gotta figure out what I think of the rest of the record. ("Just Yesterday" gives a stately sort of comfort to its headline-reading, but it strikes me as a bit subdued. The headlines themselves seem cliched yet kinda move me anyway):

http://cdbaby.com/cd/ewatnok1

xhuxk, Monday, 7 May 2007 11:24 (eighteen years ago)

OK, the Shelton song makes sense now. As for another great roadhouse song in recent country, Jamey Johnson's "Ray Ray's Jukebox" I think is the title off his The Dollar (he's since been dropped by his label!).

Saw Blake in this CNN segment, out in L.A. Nobody knows who he is in L.A. and he's wandering around in bistros saying "I'm Blake Shelton." Talked a bit about his divorce last year but not about Miranda. So given that, Chuck's take on the new record (trying to do some Gary Allan-style post-Wynn Stewart California country) makes sense as well.

Got to get that Gore Gore Girls record!

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 7 May 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of Bobby Braddock, saw an ad for his book ("A True Story"): Down In Orbundale, subtitled A Songwriter's Youth In Old Florida. Lee Smith (good novelist, collab with Marshall Chapman and others on musical): "A fabulous read...he brings oldtime, smalltown Florida back to vivid life." Alice Randall (African-American Music Row songwriter, author of Supreme-Court-case-winning The Wind Done Gone): "A must read for anyone who lives the South, country music, or crazy people." No Depression (author not specified): "Stands along side the work of Flannery O'Connor and Robert Penn Warren." H'mmm, but it is published by LSU, as in Confederacy Of Dunces, The Neon Bible, and a Josh Clover poetry collection, the title of which I'm blanking on, but it's great: http://www.lsu.edu/lsupress

dow, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

should be "anyone who loves the South, country music, or crazy people," but "lives" fits even better,stresswise.

dow, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

No Depression (author not specified): "Stands along side the work of Flannery O'Connor and Robert Penn Warren." that'd be me on the book in No Depression, actually.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 23:42 (eighteen years ago)

Looks like Miranda's going to debut #1 Country & #5 Pop. Blake will be #2 Country, #7 Pop. The Country top ten is looking the best (quality-wise) as it has in awhile, with the McGraw on there, Underwood still reigning too. Too bad Rascal Flatts will seemingly perpetually hold a place.

mulla atari, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

So Ed White and the Next of Kin (the cdbaby act who did the "We Didn't Start the Fire" song I mistook for Blake Shelton) have some apparently good songs on the two CDs I heard No Broken Hearts and Angels and Demons -- not just ""Just Yesterday" (which is actually on both albums) but "1935," "Real Old Country" [which actually sounds more like David Allen Coe than REAL old country, which I don't mind at all] "Nobody's Ugly After 2 A.M.," "Phoenix, Arizona," etc. -- but it's basically impossible to hear them through the lack of studio technology on those two records, which sound so quiet and small they might as well have been recorded over one of those hand-held tape recorders we used to tape things with in the mid '70s. With a decent professional production job, and probably with a real band (though maybe the band's already there -- it's hard to tell), I have a feeling I'd like these guys' CDs just fine. (Except maybe "Nouveau Country," which would still frustrate me by not sounding nouveau enough, since the words set it up to new wavey or something. For all I know, it could have been written in 1981.)

In other news, here's Metal Mike Saunders via email:

there's a loooong Dylan piece up on rocksbackpages that's pretty new and it must be by Ian MacDonald. if i pull it up to read it (meaing, whenever i have time since i dig through the weekly additions in sequence formthe e-mail lists, don't skip around) i'll try to remember to cut/paste it. he has some pretty new/interesting theories spanning "entire career" about mr Bob's modum operandi.

i have a theory no one else is insane enoguh to even imagine.

The Turtles rocked the fuck out of "It Ain't Me Babe" and bobby never got over it. the fuckin' Turtles man! stupid former surf band (the Crossfires) from the terminally unhip South
Bay! trumped johnny cash, trumped the Byrds' covers, jeeesus. to this day Bob goes meltdown if anyone even intimates they're goiong to say the forbidden "T" word -- Turtles. yeah, and their version really IS that good.

history eventually revealed that they had another Dylan song on the table to cover for the followup, but they decided to do P.F. Sloan (two straight two, ie Let It Be and You Baby) instead. oooh.

my theory is at least consistent with my preferences re recorded Bob-output. by a mile i'd rather hear the 1962-63-64 recordings (pre electric) than the 1965-66 crap (no band is >>> to horrible nashville rednecks dozing zzzzzz along cluelessly), and the 1964 band (Bringing It All Back Home), well, huh, that's not even really a band is it? just a ragtag bunch of pickup mooks. dylan's best electric vocals/tunes might be on that one, but that band is a real tough listen.

not to be confused with the most boring band ever, the BAND. man that bob knew how to pick his backing musicians. seriously, if the guy'd had any balls after the fake motorbike accident ( = a metaphor for his dopey marriage i guess) left him clueless and shoeless --

he'd have bought full on Marshall amps/stacks, worked up some old Stanley Brothers brothers songs for the "new sound, man" and played the Fillmore East doing same. power trio, bob and maybe the Vanilla Fudge rhythm section. hell yeah, i'd pay to hear the 18 minute version of "Man Of Constant Sorrow" with fuzz guitar sorrows. fuck this Visions of Johanna shit and songs about joan baez. stomp some fuzzbox onto some old Bill Monroe jams!

xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 02:05 (eighteen years ago)

erm, probably not something new(ly written) by Ian MacDonald, since he's been dead for years, and Highway 61 was pre-"redneck." I wouldn't mind hearing The Turtles sing Dylan, since I always liked Flo and Eddie (on other people's albums, since I never heard their own post-Turtles sets). Wonder how The Hollies' Dylan album is?

dow, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

oh wait it was on rocksbackpages, but pretty new addition to archives, so doesn't have to be newey-new! Ya got me!

dow, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 04:07 (eighteen years ago)

that's some hilarious wishing for rejiggering of history MMS does there! at the time Dylan and the Band must've seemed inevitable or something. I mean the Band was only good on the Basement Tapes and then for about a year or two on those first 2 LPs, but they could really play and all that. I mean, the Band's very first song on their very first album is boring, slow, like 5 minutes about how children should be nicer to their parents, so that should tell you something right there. The Turtles were great--PF Sloan's songs were fake Dylan and Sloan to this day hasn't ever gotten over Dylan and in my opinion remains as confused about his (Sloan's) talent as he was in 1967. for that matter, who NOW has the balls to rejigger (why that word popped up in my addled brain, who knows, but I like it and must use it in print soon) country as Meta Metal Mike suggests? who in 1968 had the moxie to rejigger country the same way Cream (who have to be as boring as the Band) took a second-rate version of Skip James' "I'm So Glad" (by James himself, who awoke with testicular cancer in a Mississippi hospital bed in the mid-'60s, looked around to find six dudes with long hair and guitars by his bed seeking to glean the secrets of James' drop-D tuning, and decided he could Shuck the 1960s) and made it even more pointless than its creator already had? the blues was one thing and country another.

Don, Hollies Sing Dylan has its moments--it's funny but you realize that Dylan's songs don't suit them as well as the efforts of semi-hacks like that guy who would end up praising rubber bullets and Norman Mailer in 10cc. but the Hollies doing "Quit Your Low Down Ways" is pretty frenetic and pretty great.

Caught up, sorta, and tomorrow will delve into the new Brad Paisley, which just came. 5th Gear, it's called. I love the way Nashville sends the complete lyric sheet with their new stuff, so in case I needed to make sure Paisley's singing about "chicken kabobs" in the first song (he is) or that he's kinky as on "Ticks" where he wants to check this chick for them, or that Brad's thinking about how some people misrepresent themselves on MySpace (taller, don't live with their parents) as in "Online," I can.

Should have a review of the LaVere running next couple of weeks--I know we talked about this one a lot, but listening to it again I was struck at how essentially Victorian the damned thing is, like on "Cupid's Arrow," which isn't a bad song at all, and the whole record is an attempt to gloss over a busted relationship of some kind. Don't know if anyone here has ever listened to Lee Wiley, a pop-jazz singer from the late '40s and '50s--husky voice and a pretty sexy image, kind of smoky-voiced, real good--but LaVere kinda reminds me of her, but not as good. So in an earlier era, I wrote, LaVere would've probably been a big-band thrush, maybe that way she'd learn to do the one thing she doesn't ever do, which is sing OVER and AROUND the songs instead of just murmuring. You're sexy, baby, you're sexy, now time for the hard sock sell and the shout chorus.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 07:49 (eighteen years ago)

oh, and got to mention that I was privileged to talk to Johnny Bush yesterday, from his home in San Antonio. a gentleman and a spirited conversationalist, sounds as big-hearted as his voice implies and I never had a better time interviewing anyone. as you might know, he's suffered from spasmodic dysphonia, which renders you essentially unable to sing or speak for long periods, and he's been successfully treated for it with injections of botox, which apparently they inject small amounts of into the muscles that control the vocal chords. so I mention that Richard Thompson's ex, Linda, also had s.d., and Johnny says, "yeah, I always liked her when she was on Hee-Haw." naw, Johnny, she's English. oh hell, then I guess I'm thinkin' of someone else. but seriously, spasmodic dysphonia is no joke, especially if you're a singer...and at 72 Johnny sounds pretty darned good. Mr. Bush'll be playing here in a few weeks and I'm looking forward to it immensely, and his new one is up there with Dale Watson's, Miranda Lambert's and the Greencards as my best '07 so far.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 07:59 (eighteen years ago)

Now, I'd like to hear Richard with that Linda, she who inspired the immortal made-for-TV movie, Elvis And The Beauty Queen, and later married Bruce Jenner (but she's way past him now, good for her). We've talked before about RT's contributiions to the country hit parade (Jo-El Sonnier's "Tear-Stained Letter," Del McCoury Band's "195? Vincent Black Lightning," etc.), but he should get a closer--he doesn't have that much to do with anybody but other Brits, collaboration or guest-shot-wise. But his versions of "Oops, I Did It Again" and "Genie In A Bottle" totally work; maybe he should cover some country teenpop? A duet with Ashley Monroe, that's it. Everybody I knew, incl. a local country scholar/bandleader/DJ, thought Johnny Bush had died of throat cancer, and then he popped up on Fresh Air a few years ago (Terry Gross sounded pretty startled by this). He said he'd lost his voice for a while, so had worked in other people's bands. Glad you stopped fighting Amy. Some kinds of country have a lot to do with some kinds of blues, but you and I we've been through that.

dow, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

Band For Sale!

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

And due to the highly characteristic nature of the music, the songs of Rednex often participate in films.

Zoilus, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

(that shoulda been in quotes)

Zoilus, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

"anyone who loves the South, country music, or crazy people," but "lives"

How about "anyone who loves the South, country music, or crazy people, but lives"?

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

Haven't heard the new Gore Gore Girls but enthusiastically concur on the greatness of "All Grown Up," a Greenwich-Barry nonhit from who-knows-who that the Gore Gores rampage through as if they're the Raw Power era Stooges, except rawer (and not quite as powerful, but close enough to win a cigar).

Blake Shelton's "Some Beach" had a moment of gratuitous pandering and xenophobia, where it's some foreign-car driving dude who gives him the finger, and another foreign-car driving dude who rooks him out of a parking space (as if drivers of American-made cars can't be supreme assholes themselves). (But I love "Some Beach" anyway, and hope to hear the new alb.)

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

"How about, 'Anyone who loves country music, the South, and crazy people, but lives'?" Should go without saying that anyone who loves all that really lives, no buts about it.(Plenty butts though.) In other news, Oakley Hall continue their para-early Airplane/Fairport/showing-Cowboy Junkies-how-it's-done gallop and canter, on these unreleased tracks: http://www.daytrotter.com/daytrottersessions/143/free-songs-oakley-hall

dow, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

The Very Best of Little Texas: Live and Loud, which apparently came out late last year on Montage Records, whatever that is, is the best album I've heard by them, and still not good enough to hang on to, I don't think. Definitely better than Missing Years, which seems to have come out at approximately the same time on approximately the same label. I dunno, the idea for these guys seems pretty good on paper -- sweet, undeniably poppy, almost bubblegum at times, country rock with just a pinch of attitude to it or whatever. Plus on the live album there are plenty of background party shouts from the crowd to kick the thing into gear (especially in "Kick a Little," actually. Though "Amy's Back In Austin" is still their one and only great song, as far as I can tell.) But damn are they ever wimpy. I mean, they make Sawyer Brown seem like Montgomery Gentry in comparison; they make '80s .38 Special seem like '70s ZZ Top; they make Firefall seem like, uh, The Eagles.

On the other hand, I am absolutely loving the more country/folk parts of this new reissue of The Ultimate Prophecy by J.D. Blackfoot (insane 1970 proto-metal psych obscurity; consult Stairway to Hell for more info if necessary.) Which country/folk parts I'd forgotten were there.

xhuxk, Friday, 11 May 2007 12:06 (eighteen years ago)

Honestly, probably what Little Texas are really missing are better songs. (The riffs are there, sometimes. The hooks are barely halfway there.)

xhuxk, Friday, 11 May 2007 12:09 (eighteen years ago)

new Clientele, recorded in Nashville, has pedal steel but isn't country; they sound like the Pretty Things and baroque-o '60s pop, like the Go-Brethren or Pretty Scarlitti or something. the dude singing sounds just like Green Gartside. the new Ghostfinger single, "Born on the Moon," is more twisted country-rock except they're from Murfreesboro, so if Nashville is the new Brookyln then I guess they're from Providence or Atlantic City.

"Bonnie Blue" on the new John Anderson has got to be the I-love-the-South song of the year...deceptive. Is he singing about the Civil War, post-Katrina New Orleans, when he says "They taught you wrong from right" and then goes on to say "not much difference between black and white"? I was talking about the Band above, and this is the song Robbie Robertson would've traded his Coke spoon to have written back in the mid-'70s. brilliant, actually. So I really did underrate the Anderson record, what seemed like goopy ballads turn out to be the best things on the record, and the atmospherics of "Weeds" proves that Big & Rich don't need no stinkin' Daniel Lanwaa to go all Swamp Eno. There's one of the best marriage songs ever, two great drinking songs one of which also has a marriage in it, and even Big & Rich's patented freakbus sentiments in "Funky Country" are enlivened by Anderson's voice.

can't recall liking a Little Texas song but Chuck I remember your bit about Blackfoot in the metal book, there's another reissue I got to look for.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 11 May 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

supposed to be getting the finished Anderson, btw, next week along with the Blake Shelton, which I still haven't heard. If I had credits for the Anderson I lost 'em--anybody know who wrote what on Easy Money? the WB website just says "cowritten with various members of the MusikMafia."

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 11 May 2007 12:30 (eighteen years ago)

My JA advance copy doesn't list songwriters either, Edd. But yeah, the ballads "Weeds," "Something To Drink About" and especially the totally mysterious
"Bonnie Blue" (which I see you've come closer to deciphering than I have) are right up there with "Brown Liquor" as far as I'm concerned.

Meanwhile, I tried listening to the new Gourds CD this a.m. Still don't get what people hear in them.

xhuxk, Friday, 11 May 2007 12:39 (eighteen years ago)

Yet more wild 'n' crazy schtick, but they can play, which always helps (re Homer & Jethro, etc.) Sometimes flat, but they go for the gusto when kidding "roots," and get points for freaking out semi-creepy folkie host of Public Radio's Woodsongs via live broadcast citation of gourds as penile sheaths (pre-jock cups for our working hunter-gatherer ancestors, speaking of roots). To be fair to host, you never know what Bush appointees to CPB board are going to get too interested in.

dow, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

"Bonnie Blue" seems to be about the South, Chuck, as far as I can tell, and what threw me about this really fucking magnificent record was that sonically it reminded me way too much of '80s country. like some of the piano sounds. but they really re-imagine that stuff and give it some historical awareness, plus Anderson sings just great on all of it. Like you, maybe, I listen to a lot of stuff on the changer and kinda go, hmm, that's interesting, but once I got down to really listening to what Anderson was singing about on "Bonnie" I was blown away. I take the line about "showed us wrong from right" coupled with "not much difference between black and white" as a comment on North/South abolitionist stuff. (Don't think that John Rich or Big John has read The Metaphysical Club, but that book gets at something pretty disturbing--that the North was just as fucked as the South in pre-Civil War days, because the North was so hung up on being morally absolute about slavery that it helped push the country into a war it could've avoided...that's simplified but the book is about Pragmatism and how that philosophy arose after the Civil War, and how Moral Absolutes can be dangerous).

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

from the rolling metal thread:

Phazm does have catchy songs! Crazy blackened rock 'n roll with a country twinge.
-- Jeff Treppel, Friday, May 11, 2007 12:42 PM (Yesterday)

I noticed a couple people calling that Phazm record "country", and I really couldn't figure out what sort of country music they were talking about...The Birthday Party kind, maybe? Actually, who they slightly reminded me of was the great French band Noir Desir (whose singer murdered his girlfriend, allegedly, a couple years ago), but not as good. Didn't hear any "country" in it, though it would be cool if I did, so I could consider it for my Nashville Scene poll ballot at year's end. Still liked them OK, though. I need to dig that CD back out.

-- xhuxk, Friday, May 11, 2007 4:45 PM (Yesterday)
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completely unrelated to metal, that Miranda Lambert album is indeed awesome.

-- A. Begrand, Friday, May 11, 2007 4:55 PM (Yesterday)
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What little girls are made of: gunpowder and lead (which is a metal, right? Or maybe not.) (and I think Miranda's drummer used to play in metal bands, too.)

xp Maybe "country" means "gothabilly"? (Except Phazm don't sound all that gothabilly to me, either.)

-- xhuxk, Friday, May 11, 2007 4:57 PM (Yesterday)
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By "a couple people" I assume you mean me. I suppose you know more about country than I do, but the better tracks have sort of a rustic hillbilly swagger (despite them being French, of course). I used "country" as a shorthand for that.

-- Jeff Treppel, Friday, May 11, 2007 5:02 PM (Yesterday)
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Yeah, I may well have meant "a couple Jeff Treppels".

And I think you use "country" the way Martin Popoff does, actually (which is perfectly valid, and kind of interesting, actually, even if it has no connection with any country music that human ears have ever heard.)

-- xhuxk, Friday, May 11, 2007 5:11 PM (Yesterday)
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Could be alien country music! And with Phazm, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

-- Jeff Treppel, Friday, May 11, 2007 5:14 PM (Yesterday)
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Hey Chuck, this is a bit of a weird question (not sure if this should be on the country thread), but can you recommend some good country records that would appeal to a hard rock/metal fan and educate me on what non-Popoff country sounds like? Besides Johnny Cash and various Southern rock bands, I haven't done much exploring in that area.

-- Jeff Treppel, Friday, May 11, 2007 6:22 PM (Yesterday)
Hank Williams III kind of kicks ass.

Also: Scott H. Biram.

-- novaheat, Friday, May 11, 2007 7:46 PM (Yesterday)
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I've yet to hear any Hank III that doesn't suck ass myself. But then again I've never been fan of toe-the-line hardcore punk bands, and who knows, maybe his good stuff has passed me by. Seriously though, Jeff, try the rolling country thread[s], and check out whatever appeals to you from the descriptions there. I'm not sure where else to start you, give or take stuff I've already posted about upthread. (Okay here: If you haven't already got all five Montgomery Gentry albums, you could do worse than checking for them in used CD bins in your locale. Best one is Carrying On, one of the great hard rock albums of this decade, no question.)

-- xhuxk, Friday, May 11, 2007 9:40 PM (Yesterday)
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Hank Williams III kind of kicks ass.

Oh bullshit. Damned by faint praise. Seek: The David Allen Coe reissue of Penitentiary Blues from last year. Avoid: The David Allen Coe with Dimebag Darrel collaboration right before he was shot thing which doesn't have a memorable tune on it.

Fundamentally, if you know good hard rock albums when you find them, you certainly don't need modern country albums, because most good hard rock albums have some country in their sinews. You'd be better off getting the CCR catalog, or old Humble Pie, or just listening to the Stones and old Beatles records.

Sifting through modern country for hard rock is like panning for gold in a stream where the bed of sand is iron pyrite grains. It looks and sounds neat and seems to yield some good stuff but if you're not getting the records for free, it's a waste of time.

Arena country does hard rock in the way Bad Company ca. Holy Water did hard rock. It's hooky and often a couple songs will be really good, but -- ya know, no one who liked hard rock buys the Bad Company records that have Brian Howe and a couple of hacks on them in place of Paul Rodgers.

Speaking of which, the second Bad Company record, which is country-inflected hard rock and metal, pretty good for British guys.

Let's see -- Shania Twain's song, "If You're Not Ready For Love [Then I'm Outta Here.] You could buy the last Bon Jovi record -- poor man's Mellencamp with loud guitars big in countryland. Or the first Sugarland record.

I've no use for any of it other than it sounding good on the radio as singles -- occasionally, before you burn out on the repetition of it.

There really isn't a shortage of people doing good hard rock in the States and overseas. It only seems that way because it doesn't get on TV or mentioned in popular mags and newspapers, so when a vid from one of the country pop music cripples with semi-loud guitars and thumping drum figures goes into heavy rotation, or winds up being on the big stage at the country festival that followed Lollapolooza in California last week, then some pop music critics start writing ad nauseum about how Miranda Lambert is a tough girl who empowers women, a recruiter of a kicking band -- which are dime a dozen -- sharing a tour stage with some other "Git R Done-type" guy who quotes Skynyrd and says were so neat they smoked dope, to appreciative roars.

Jeezus H. Christ on a stick.

-- Gorge, Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:47 AM (5 hours ago)
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...and says [his parents] were so neat [because] they smoked dope, to appreciative roars.

-- Gorge, Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:51 AM (5 hours ago)
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I've yet to hear any Hank III that doesn't suck ass myself.

I thought "Straight to Hell" was pretty good. I haven't heard any of his other stuff.

If that's what you were referring to, though, I'd be interested in hearing why you think it's so terrible. I mean, it's not groundbreaking or anything, but "sucks ass?" Dunno about that.

-- novaheat, Saturday, May 12, 2007 2:23 AM (4 hours ago)


Maylene and the Sons of Disaster pull off the whole "southern metal" thing pretty well. You kind of have to have a tolerance for metal-core-ish vocals (the singer used to be in Underoath...), but I'll be damned if their new album hasn't grown on me.

-- novaheat, Saturday, May 12, 2007 2:26 AM (4 hours ago)
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George has a point, of course. Hank III is a dumb novelty act without a singing voice and apparently without songs; if you really need to be spoonfed that kinda hickcore shtick you might as well go with one of its originators, like maybe Antiseen on the Drastic/EP Royalty CD. But right, if you really want to hear country in hard rock, you'd really well be better off buying old Nazareth albums or pulling out Aerosmith's "Chip Away At the Stone" rather than anything coming out of Nashville now (though, I dunno, if you can't hear any rock in "Daddy's Farm" by Shooter Jennings or the Kentucky Headhunters collection Flying Under the Radar or their gospel-country blues-rock side project the Mighty Jeremiahs, you're deaf.) I can't really speak for the later hack Bad Company era George is referring to (blocked that from my memory a long time ago though damn, when they went disco-Foreigner on Desolation Angels that was pretty neat) but the hard rock that Nashville is obsessed with right now is the '80s -- reports from the Stagecoach fest a couple weeks back had hit country acts encoring on stage with "Crazy Train" and "Paradise City"; Big N Rich do a very lousy bluegrass version of "You Shook Me All Night Long" on their sadly crummy new album. And that kinda thing has been threatening to happen for a long while now -- Montgomery Gentry covered (now hit country act) Bon Jovi's "Wanted Dead or Alive" on a professional bull riding compilation, like, seven years ago or so; MG's hardest rocking track ever may well be their cover of ZZ Top's "Just Got Paid" on the excellent Nashville-filled Sharp Dressed Men: A Tribute to ZZ Top comp a few years ago (best tribute comp I've ever heard, by the way.) And yeah, there's a sense that unreconstructed '70s hard rockers might scoff at MG or Miranda or Shooter and opt for cdbaby nobodies like Copperhead and Cargun (who are really good) instead; maybe in real life everybody who listens to Montgomery Gentry on a motorcycle wears a tie to his day job; how would I know? Though I'm sure you'd find a few aging Humble Pie and Creedence fans in the audience of this summer's Hank Jr/Skynyrd/38 Special "Rowdy Frynds" tour (with dates only on Friday and Saturday nights!), and I doubt they'll be sleeping during the Hank Jr (who rocks harder than his kid and always will) set. And sorry, Montgomery Gentry and Miranda Lambert still make better albums than Cargun or Copperhead, and better albums than Bad Company ever did (even the first one), for that matter, whether the MG and ML count as "real" hard rock or not. Though then again, I liked hair-metal power ballads, and the idea of country music rooted in "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" and "Gypsy Road" (why haven't any Nashville acts covered those, for crissakes?) (and actually, I still say Miranda's sound sounds more rooted in Screaming Blue Messiahs, somehow) strikes me as pretty damn cool. Would Montgomery Gentry appeal to Pantera or Clutch fans? Honestly, who the hell cares? The problem with recommending current country to fans of current metal, frankly, is that fans of current metal have pretty shitty taste, for the most part. And yeah, again, along those lines, that Maylene and the Sons of the Disaster CD has some not-awful moments (that instrumental jam toward the end or whatever -- got rid of my copy a few months ago, so I'm probably getting it wrong), but until bands like that figure out they need a singer, fuck 'em.

-- xhuxk, Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:16 AM (7 minutes ago)
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(Re current arena-country: As George also briefly suggested, a high tolerance for '80s Cougar [+ Seger/Petty/etc] does help a lot. For me, not a problem. If it sounds like "Jack and Diane," as Shooter's great "4th of July" did, count me in.)

-- xhuxk, Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:23 AM (0 seconds ago)

xhuxk, Saturday, 12 May 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

P.S., I dunno, Don, the Gourds sure sounded more mild 'n' lazy than wild n' crazy to my ears. Hmmmm.

xhuxk, Saturday, 12 May 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

No, I didn't say they actually were wild 'n' crazy, I said that was their schtick, though yeah, they do seem too lazy to pursue it all that diligently, which is good. Wild 'n' crazy or whacky 'n' tacky's just something else to mess with, like rootsy 'n' rowdy, but they can be as fun as they think they are sometimes, like say Cheap Trick in their prime. Haven't heard the new one, but the previous (Rusty Ornaments? Why should I waste energy on looking it up; they wouldn't) was pretty bracing, for the most part (though when they tried to play it too straight, got sappy, as with most wiseasses). if anybody cares, I'd say Sir Douglas, among Doug Sahm incarnations, did a lot of interesting country-meets-rock stuff, like "Baby, It Just Don't Matter" may be the first good country metal, and still doesn't that much competition. But yea, Coe's Penitentiary Blues, which Gorge mentioned on Rolling Metal not long after it was finally reissued, and I'd say Rebel Meets Rebel, even though xxuxx hates it and yes it involves Panterans with Coe instead of Anselmo. Hank III's Risin' Outlaw is ligher than his old man's stuff, but affecting too, just as Hank Jr's The Almerea Club is lighter or smoother than some of his other, but soulful and funny like the best of his son's stuff. I reviewed both of those in the same Voice piece, but for once I won't bother with inserting a plug-link. Also, still speaking of Hank Jr.,I'd start with Hank Williams Jr And Friends and Whiskey Bent And Hell Bound and others from the mid-70s, but Stormy is another good later one with rock appeal. Edd's right, The Metaphysical Club is a hell of a book, just read it last week.

dow, Sunday, 13 May 2007 03:34 (eighteen years ago)

And yeah Shooter (wonder how that live album is? Montgomery Gentry kill live, at least when I've seen/heard steaming chunks on TV/Web) And Jessi Colter's Out Of The Ashes, with that calm voice and rumbling keyboard.

dow, Sunday, 13 May 2007 03:56 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/14/AR2007051401683.html?hpid=features1&hpv=local

Big Miranda Lambert interview in the Washington Post today, and tonight:

The 42nd ANNUAL ACADEMY OF COUNTRY MUSIC AWARDS, honoring country music's top talent as well as the industry's hottest emerging talent, will be broadcast live on Tuesday, May 15 at 8pm et/pt. It will take place at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas for the second year in a row

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

Performing on the show: Rodney Atkins
Brooks & Dunn
Kenny Chesney
Miranda Lambert
Reba McEntire & Kelly Clarkson
Tim McGraw
Brad Paisley
Rascal Flatts
George Strait
Sugarland
Carrie Underwood

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

interesting take on Miranda and alt-country in current Village Voice "Status Ain't Hood."

right on Don, "Baby, It Just Don't Matter" is pretty rocked-out, nice sludgy guitar riff and cool solo, Sir Doug getting down.

saw Dale Watson the other night. classic stripped-down country band, the drummer played a lot with a stick and a brush and knew how to play with real dynamics, and Dale and the pedal steel guy provided all the color. very good indeed. I like him better when he gets over his Cash obsession, but I like him a lot.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

I might go see Dale at a brew pub next week, that'd be fun.

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, go see Dale. he's way better at minimal shit than Lou Reed!

listening to Johnny Bush on Stop in the '60s. "Daddy Lived in Houston" is one of the greater country-meets-city-and-likes-it (so much that Daddy don't come home to his family after the war!) songs, sort of like that Tony Joe White stuff pre-'68 where it's like mediated local color with Glen Campbell-like post-folk-rock guitar stuff, except Bush's operatic baritone really gets tortured. Great stuff, if a little repetitious.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Lookit this, John Legend singing "Lost in this Moment" with B&R on the ACM awards! This song is OK yet anemic. And the sound quality of the performances on this show is way way below American Idol (I just watched that). My Lord, Rascal Flatts's background vocals sounded like a freakin' Henry Partch record.

dr. phil, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

Harry Partch? Toby Keith was hairy!

dr. phil, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

lookit this, sugarland pretending they're ok go, performing on a moving, treadmill-like floor.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

I theorize they dropped whatshername from the lineup so they could be nominated for Best Vocal Duo.

dr. phil, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:35 (seventeen years ago)

where they're guaranteed to continually lose to brooks & dunn? surely they're smarter than that.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

So Miranda Lambert beat out Taylor Swift for best new female artist. I guess Miranda is still considered 'new.'

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago)

So I taped some of the award show and will watch it later. Anybody else watch it?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

i watched the last half. kelly and reba duet underwhelming; kelly didn't quite hold up her end vocally. tim mcgraw soldier ballad obviously scripted to be the show's heartstopping, pin-drop moment, maniuplative as fuck, and it actually was good, a really moving performance.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

brad paisley was wearing one weird-ass t-shirt. at least i think it was a t-shirt.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

I saw Toby Keith and Big & Rich perform. the former was good--was that Keith Urban playing guitar on that song?--the latter, bleh. Reba looked as scary as I've always thought she was.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

oh, and I was making a joke about Martina McBride and her makeup--she's handsome, but on her new record and in the video I saw she's got on tons of makeup, really over the top--and I saw her interviewed by someone and they asked Martina about her love of makeup and whether or not she would wear so much even if she weren't a star, and Martina said that she would no matter what. I find that really interesting.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago)

Vince Gill played some really smokin' guitar, but it wasn't fancy licks, it was mostly just repetitive stuff that was really rhythmically exciting. I wish there was more of that on his box set. And I blame Kelly's performance on the sound techs! I think she was singing high harmony (I could be totally off), but whatever, the vocals were mixed so the harmony overwhelmed the melody--or at least was equal with it--and it didn't sound good.

dr. phil, Thursday, 17 May 2007 01:37 (seventeen years ago)

I timed Vince's guitar solo--it was exactly a minute and a half. Yes, some repetitious stuff... but, coming at the end of the show, it forced them to cut off the Kenny speech that immediately followed, so... Sorry, petty of me.

I was wondering about Kelly's muted performance, too. It was weirdly deferential for what was billed as a duet. Has anyone heard the studio version, which I think went to radio this week, to hear how it compares? I got a notice of having an electronic version of it in my inbox, but darn if I can remember how to log into that new system.

In the backstage area, I found a copy of a tech sheet that gave the order of presentations and performances, and it helpfully listed which acts were playing entirely live and which were singing live to tracks. Of 20 performances, six were all-live, and the rest had the band members miming. Anyone want to guess which were which?

Anyway, it listed "Comin' Home" as the Tim McGraw song. Having actually heard his new album, I knew damn well that wasn't "Comin' Home," even though it seemed like the title of it might be "I'm Already Home"--but there are no dead soldiers on "Let It Go." I asked around backstage, and no one seemed to have a clue (or care, for something that was supposedly so tearjerking in the front of the house). Anyway, I finally got it confirmed today that it's a new song that he hasn't recorded, cowritten by McGraw (which makes, what, only about his fourth credited cowrite) with the Warren Brothers. "If You're Reading This" I think is the real title.

And how about Rascal Flatts paying homage to the Virginia Tech victims and their families? But I don't know how you're supposed to feel if you're a family member of a Virginia Tech victim but don't agree with all the other sentiments espoused in the song and accompanying video footage (like, it ticked God off to take the 10 commandments out of the courtroom, etc.).

Wanted to like the new Faith song, because it reminded me of the time she fought the CMA producers and won to get to sing "Breathe," which was then not yet released, on a CMA telecast. But this was no "Breathe."

I wrote a blog entry again praising "Famous in a Small Town"--which for me may be the country single of the year (at least until they get around to releasing "Dry Town")--and people wrote in responding that it has no hook. Shit, I know it's a little convoluted, but how can people miss the hook(s) on that? It makes me fear for how it's going to fare at radio.

Actually, what makes me fear for Miranda most at radio is the massive critical pile-on. Seems like just the kind of thing that could prompt a backlash: Oh yeah, she's the darling of the rock critics--more proof that she really isn't for our audience. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

Willman, Thursday, 17 May 2007 03:34 (seventeen years ago)

"Country boy, country like LeAnn Rimes"
--Lil Wayne, on David Banner's "Speaker"

(Think there's a blanked out word in there, possibly "nigga.")

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:57 (seventeen years ago)

listening to the jerry lee lewis last man standing duets album, its mostly a shoddy attempt at myth making (and why the hell didnt tehy get tosches to do the catalog essay), however the patrotic anthem old glory, w. toby keith, is almost perfect, toby knowing how to modulate his voice so it works in the context of lewis. the strongest are the country tracks, but the toby and lewis are the best i think. song of the year material. (other stand out tracks: lost highway, what made milewauke famous, so songs that use his exhaustion, as opposed to his fever, because he doesnt seem to have much fever left)

i hope to get my review of the (now old) mcgraw up and running w/i the week, but here are my thots on last dollar:
Last Dollar:

• The song mentions, “I don’t have to worry about things I don’t have, because if I don’t have nothing, I have nothing to hold me back”. The guy has something, millions of dollars, property. He’s the number one singer in the states on pure volume, so it sounds deluded. Same thing when he talks about having nothing to tie him down, and how he is glad that the subject of the song “is here today” because “tomorrow he has to fly away” For someone who is married, and has been married for a decade to a super star, and who has made a career with her, there is obvious things to hold him back. But he’s talking in character and maintaining a radical position. Voluntary simplicity, rejection of capital, rich men and camels and eyes of the needle, pleasure before all: how ever you want to phrase it, it’s the story of the rambler who’s first priority is to his own autonomy.
• The interesting thing then, is how much the music of the song fits the lyrical message, and even more so, how the video ties it all together. The song is produced to the hilt, it has a children’s choir and a section where the slick edges drop off into something resembling Carter Family era noise, and some really nice smooth sections as well. It is an excellent example of studio craft, but it doesn’t seem like one, it seems raw and half put together, and kind of rambling. The same thing with the video. IT begins with a test pattern, then the brackets of a film, scratched out frames, dusty frames, sections that are heavily polarized, black and white bits that look like a redneck Cocksucker’s Blues, and the like. The video looks like the song sounds, i.e. like shit on purpose, purposefully decayed to match the ambiguity of the songs call to pleasure. It’s an excellent introduction.

pinkmoose, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

that all sounds fine but I still think it's a weak song because it accompllishes "shit on purpose" a little too well.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:25 (seventeen years ago)

I think of "Last Dollar" as McGraw covering Big & Rich. They can get away, usually, with cliched hippie lyrics because it's just part of their vibe--but McGraw? I believe him more as a cop working the night shift.

mulla atari, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, I think the point about critical backlash on Miranda is a good one. I mentioned the Voice Status thing on her and the No Depression piece, and that piece seemed to me to summarize the confusion people can have over what comes out of Nashville. I think it goes too far to say that Miranda is some kind of alt- act; she's not. She covers a song written by Guy Clark's wife, sure, but it's a straight modern country commercial record. A good one. The guy in Status catches something I also mentioned in my review of it when he said something like the sound effects are obviously planted, not accidents, so, feigned naturalness. I think she's pretty smart and I also really like "Dry Town," might be my favorite thing on the record, and maybe the big thing is that she's normalizing wildassness or wilding up normal. But it's interesting, Gretchen sings better, I think; she's a really good even subtle singer, and I kinda think some of the material on that record is too machine-tooled, like the stupid song about moving to Hollywood. She seems more abused than Miranda does and whether or not that's more country, I dunno. I only caught a bit of the show the other night so I can't say about the taped-not-taped thing, but what I heard didn't sound all that great, sonically....

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

Hello, ILM. Just thought I'd pop in to mention that the forthcoming Brad Paisley album, 5th Gear, is the best thing I've heard all year, in any genre.

Jody R., Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago)

i want that one, and the miranda,

pinkmoose, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

That Paisley album IS good. Listening to it as I drove back to L.A. from Vegas after the ACMs the other day, I was struck by the seemingly contradictory thoughts that (a) it's almost too goofy for words and (b) nearly heroic, in its fashion.

Willman, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

Lyrically goofy but brave?

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

I love the Miranda Lambert record and disagree with Hurt (and with Breihan--who I guess gets points for declaring his ignorance of his subject in his first sentence) that it's a straight modern country record. Who else is cutting Gillian Welch and Patty Griffin (Dixie Chicks granted being a very big exception)? And the guitars on "Gunpowder & Lead" do claim alt-rock turf with great drama. Nor am I sure that using sound effects in an artificial way is more a modern country or pop trope than it is modern and not-so-modern indie trope (employed by every ND-feted band from Wilco to Vic Chesnutt). Hell, actually such artifacts have been part of country production since at least Porter Wagoner, and probably way before, so I'm not sure they're all that relevant to Miranda's self-fashioning. OK, she's not a traditional purist or whatever, but since when is that news and since when does that have anything to do with anything alt or not alt?

Roy Kasten, Friday, 18 May 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

surely i'm not the only one here who fails to see a significant difference between "straight modern country" and "alt country," and who fails to care. if miranda lambert is "alt," then so is green day. which maybe they are. but how do you tell the difference?

repeating my question from way way upthread, how on earth did gillian welch write a song as great as "dry town"? does anything in her own catalog sound anything like it? or is everything i like about the song entirely miranda's doing? 'cause i can't remember liking anything gillian has ever done.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 18 May 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago)

Alt country, to me is something like Freakwater, with traditional, often mountain-y (pre-bluegrass) tunes and harmonies, but mordant wit and morbid atmospheres and vivid imagery and a catchiness too: a song like "Queen Bee" could be covered by Miranda, could even be leftfield hit, but would need resetting of the persona, new talking points, etc. But it depends on the song, more than the artist being covered. Tim McGraw's cover of Ryan Adams' "When The Stars Go Blue" goes down easy as pie. But Willie Nelson featuring Ryan Adams and The Cardinals is pretty non-standard, in mainstream terms, although Willie's known for his quirky approach. "Non-stsndard" seems like a useful term, and indie country too: indie like small label, small budget, independent spirit, but maybe pop sense too, and pop hopes. Yeah, that Gillian song I mentioned upthread, the one about her stoned baby, is good, and like I said, she's usually a lot better in live sets like that; haven't made it through one of her albums yet, though I haven't tried 'em all. But Emmylou and others have covered her effectively; she can write.

dow, Friday, 18 May 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

Not that there isn't a lot of bad alt country.

dow, Friday, 18 May 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

Well, Roy knows a lot more about this than I do. I do hear the sound effects in Crazy Ex- as integral to the statement, just like the thwopping overstated drum attack is. The one thing I totally agree with Tom at the Voice about is the sense that that stuff is planted in there and that it's an attempt (successful) to make her appeal to whatever, the rock audience or the indie audience or the alt- audience. I mean it caught me. Breihan goes way too far in ascribing what are essentially bad or at least really squinky motives to a certain magazine, though, and I don't see the tone of No Depression as defensive. The Mazor piece is superb and perhaps the point to be taken is that indeed as fact checking cuz says, the distinction between the "Texas singer-songwriter" and "Nashville" worlds is irrelevant, except that in the business of Nashville music, these things matter when it comes to fashioning image, which I still think is the heart of what Lambert does and which I think is totally conventional--success narratives and all that and being real in the face of the big city and not forgetting your raising and so forth. I would almost argue that the Welch and Griffin and Carter songs are a realness move just like when some white dudes cover soul or blues material; and in rock and roll, I guess people get and have gotten uptight about that, too. It's a fine record and perhaps as usual I underestimate the media-statement aspect of what she is doing, which seems to be working since we're talkin' about it.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 18 May 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

mordant wit and morbid atmospheres and vivid imagery and a catchiness

you're not actually trying to argue that mainstream country can't have mordant wit, morbid atmospheres and vivid imagery, and be catchy, are you?

fact checking cuz, Friday, 18 May 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

Wait, I haven't read Tom's thing or Barry's thing (and I've barely read the last few posts closely), so maybe I'm totally Rohrschaching, but are people saying Miranda's album is an alt country record? If so, how? What alt country records have ever rocked like that (including, right, records by the alt country gals she's covering?) It's a county rock album, like Blake Shelton and Toby Keith and Montgomery Gentry make country rock albums. She sounds nothing like schoolmarm Gillian. Or does she? To my ears she sounds closer to Taylor Swift or Carrie Underwood. So if somebody is doing one of those "this album goes against the bland Nasvhille grain" moves, wow, I don't know what to say. (Or am I totally missing the point here? Probably.)

xhuxk, Friday, 18 May 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago)

I was just responding to cuz's questions, haven't read the Breihan. Thanx for the discs, xhuxx, just got 'em! Thanxx also to Whisperin' Edd for the Bobby Braddock book, another new arrival.

dow, Friday, 18 May 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

What's "alt-country" these days – anything that sounds like Uncle Tupelo? If so, bless Miranda Lambert for treating it like a crazy ex-girlfriend.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 18 May 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

in the Mazor piece I just dug out from a pile of recently moved stuff, he says, "Lambert is more than aware of the implications of her own success, its significance as another step in the real expansion of the possibilties for mainstream country music (my italics) in this surprising decade." Fair enough. Also, "Lambert arrived in Nashville with all the interest in fashioning hit singles that an alternative country act has traditionally mustered. Which is to say, of course, very little at all." And quotes her, "I was kind of opposed to it, almost, like that 'Texas singer-songwriter' referring to a 'Nashville' single." In Texas, she says, people would chant, "Nashville sucks! Nashville sucks!" And then she says, "My goal was never to stay in Texas and sing about beer and burritos." And Mazor refers to her as someone who has a "workable, emulation-free handle on how the once-warring sides in the country/alt-country divide have come together in 2007, and how it's possible to make the most of both alleged worlds (my italics)." All sensible, and right, I mean who represents alt- more than Guy Clark, who's written big hits for people like Ricky Skaggs? My take on it is that she's simply found a way to get good songs and write some good ones and get them recorded and she doesn't worry about it because her musical values were formed by listening to Steve Earle and other Nashville rebels, yet she wants to be a star, who wouldn't? My take on it is that Nashville operates in terms of songwriting to such a huge extent that the divide between alt- and "mainstream" matters not so much in the ceaseless search for suitable material--the town embraces the singer-songwriter ethos, you might say--but that it does matter when you're talking about making records, which is a related but ultimately different thing. Miranda's record might have some good old singer-songwriterly alt- things on it, but to my ears, it's the record that matters as much as does the song.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 18 May 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

I guess no one other than Willman and Rosen have gotten the new Paisley cd, so someone can explain to me what Willman means saying that it is "goofy" and "brave." Or maybe when Willman checks back in he can clarify it for me.

As for Lambert, would the No Depression folks like her if she had not covered Gillian Welch and Patti Griffin? She does not sound like those acts do or like Neko Case. If Miranda can get the No Depression folks to open up to the mainstream, and the alt types to recognize value in the mainstream, more power to her.

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

I got the Paisley but just haven't listened to it yet.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 18 May 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago)

Kinda stumped so far about what people are hearing as so great on the Paisley record. Most of it, again so far (could change) is seeming fairly meh to me in the way Brad usually seems fairly meh. The extended (five minute) Lonnie Mack or whoever style guitar instrumental at the end, "Throttleneck," is pretty cool. "Online," about a middle-aged web nerd (maybe web perv?) who lives in his mom's basement and tells lies about himself to girls on his Mac after mom fixes him a snack, struck me as sort of funny until Lalena pointed out that the character in the song is a way-too-obvious cliche done way funnier by Weird Al last year. "Mr. Policeman" has some okay so-what auctioneer-spiel-as-chase-scene momentum I guess, but still seems pretty pro forma all the way down to its "In the Jailhouse Now" (Mississippi Shieks etc) quote at the end. And there are some fulminating cleancut down-get-any-on-you guitar parts at the ends of some songs, but in general I'm shrugging my shoulders like I usually do with this guy. Not sure I'm even impressed by "Ticks" yet (again, guitar ending seemed better than the song), though that may change after I've heard it a few times. Carrie Underwood ballad seemed like a snooze; "If Love Was a Plane" and maybe "Some Mistakes" seem like okay semi-ballads; 16 songs is way too long for a country album, though I'm no doubt missing some good ones. (Two of them feature the "Kung Pao Buckaroos," which is apparently Little Jimmy Dickens, Vince Gill, and Whisperin' Bill Anderson; if I heard those, they went right by me.) I dunno, probably lots of the songs will grow on me. But today the imminent Columbia debut by Cole Deggs & the Lonesome (which I'll post about soon) was sounding a whole lot more exciting. (Weird coincidence, though: First song on Brad's album is "All I Wanted Was A Car"; chorus of fist song on Cole Deggs etc.'s album goes "all I wanted was the girl next door." Who apparently does reckless things with her car, and with Marlboros.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

DON'T-get-any-on-you guitar parts, I meant. (In general, I'm not yet a convert to the Paisley guitar cult; I think I'd take Keith Urban over him, easy. Though "Throttleneck" does help in Brad's regard.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

got an early paisley out of the library, with a 4 minute bluegrass instruemtal called nervous breakdown, its kind of awesome

pinkmoose, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:46 (seventeen years ago)

Have read the Breihan, not the Mazor. A wrong assumption is (or isn't) that "alt" is the only alternative to "mainstream." Miranda is a bit left field for Nashville country, just as Big & Rich and Cowboy Troy are left field. But it's a different field from alt's. Is too bright and poppin' for alt. But Miranda is the sort of non-alt that alt types'll like, owing to the blatancy of the twisted-revenge tales and the, well, hard rock of her stomps.

The critic embrace will probably neither hurt nor help her airplay. She's not gotten much airplay for her previous album, either.

Not sure why I think her rock is more "rock" than, say, Montgomery Gentry's rock is, since MG rocks at least as hard as she does.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 20 May 2007 05:18 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, more thoughts on more stuff:

COLE DEGGS AND THE LONESOME -- Looks like country "bands" (who apparently sometimes play actual instruments) are on the verge of becoming more visible in the next couple months. Not sure I've heard Emerson Drive yet; liked Lynville Train's track or three on the Broken Bridges soundtrack last year. Didn't know what to expect of these guys, and my first reaction was somewhere in the neighborhood of "lite southern rock so what" or maybe "Rascal Flatts so what." But a bunch of tracks are really starting to grab me -- "I Got More," jazzy in the tradition of Marshall Tucker Band; "Huggin' in the Blacktop," beautiful desert-at-dusk ballad that might have as much Gary Allan in it as anything on Blake Shelton's album; "Do You Think of Me," with a nostalgia mood somewhere between Night Moves and Against the Wind Bob Seger; "I Haven't Stopped Hurtin," jazzgrass soft/hard rock that might match anything on the last Dierks Bentley album; "Out Of Alabama," another good lonely road song (like Dierks, that seems to be these guys' specialty) and possibly the best song to call Alabama the Crimson Tide since Steely Dan's "Deacon Blues." "Girl Next Door" appears to be a pretty sweet pop-rocker -- sounds like the single to me, and it'd be a good one (basically mom and dad try to keep fixing him up with respectable marrying types but he's always been in love with the wild girl who grew up in 305 whilst he grew up in 303 on the same street). "Everybody's Beautiful" is a sappy one for the ladies and maybe James Blunt fans, but the girl in the song works in an office (her job is very boring she's an office clerk?), and working woman rock rules (plus this one has cool mandolin fills or something). And that's just be the start.

THE PLAIN DEALERS -- Northern Exposure country rock from way up in Edmonton (Anthony, you're up near there somewhere right?), and maybe even a better shot that Cole Deggs etc. at being a Marshall Tucker Band for our time, judging from their great EP, one of the best cdbaby releases I've heard this year. Apparently the people in the band were prog-rockers before they went hard country, so they've definitely got chops, but with a way jazzier groove than most prog ever has. Singer sounds like a tough guy but that somehow doesn't bug me -- reminds me of Dale Watson, I think. Now all I have to figure out is why they're named after a daily newspaper in Cleveland.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/theplaindealers

CAROLINA COTTON - "The Yodeling Blonde Bombshell"; recorded and did a radio show between 1946 to 1952; now her daughter runs (or at least has a connection to) a recording studio in Bakersfield and has put together a CD of Bombshell Mom's work and put it up on cdbaby. "Western Swing," we're told, but I'm not sure how much swing I hear in the actual instrumentation; I need to listen more to figure that out. Western Swing's definition then might be wider than my definiton of it now. But Carolina's signing has something that, say, Anita O'Day or Keely Smith or Rosmeary Clooney had (I am no expert on that kinda stuff, so those are probably far from the best comparisons), and they were jazz vocalists, right? So maybe that is the swing part. Also, she yodels. A lot. I'm not sure how much yodeling I can take; 19 tracks (including a long segment from her radio show, complete with banter and jokes with guys and snippets of songs like " Red River Valley" all through it) might be a bit of an endurance test, but I am trying. Lalena swears by "You And My Old Guitar" already; I gotta go back and check that out.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/carolinacotton

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 13:23 (seventeen years ago)

COWBOY TROY -- New album is kind of depressing me so far, so I took it out of my changer a week ago and haven't put it back in. The old old old school DJ Hollywood type rapping in "Blackneck Boogie" seemed kinda fun I guess, but Troy's idea of hard rock seems to be Limp Bizkit stick-up-the-butt gnu-metal (though John Rich I believe has said this album sounds like "Motorhead on a horse," which sounded really promising!) Proggy parts in "Paranoid Like Me (Tis the Season of Discontent)" might be a Metallica attempt. "Hick Chick" has an obvious Gretchen Wilson lyric connection plus some redneck wimmin singing in the background. "Buffalo Stampede" has Avenged Sevenfold on it but has left no impression at all so far. There is also a "Barn Dance Mix" of "I Play Chicken With The Train", I just noticed. We'll see. It can't be as bad as it's seeming so far, can it?

COUNT BISHOPS -- Been playing Speedball + 11, released on 1995 on Ace Records UK and containing EP and outtake tracks recorded by the hardest-rocking band in UK pub-rockdom, mostly in 1975, when they were just starting out. Man, they totally just wanted to be early Stones then, I'm realizing, and they were great at it -- "Route 66," "Teenage Letter," "I Ain't Got You," "Cry To Me," "Sweet Little Sixteen, "Carol," "Mercy Mercy," "Reelin' and Rockin," "Down the Road Apiece" (most country track here, and it's awesome), "I'm a Man" -- how many of those songs (including three Chuck Berry ones, right?) had the Stones done first? A bunch I think. Frank Kogan would probably know off the top of his head. Anyway, this might just be my favorite Bishops CD of the large pile I've been delving into lately.

KORPIKLAANI -- Finnish hummpa/folk/forest-metal, getting ever more beautiful as it gets ever jiggier. Last track "Nordic Feast" is like a great Pogues instrumental circa "Red Roses For Me." "Vesilahden Verajilla" on now, just tearing my heart apart.

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 13:39 (seventeen years ago)

"Huggin' in the Blacktop,"

No "in". The blacktop is what is being hugged.

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

JOHN EDDIE -- Oh yeah, wanted to ask if anybody had an opinion about this guy. Too bad Rob Sheffield isn't here; I'm pretty sure he has a John Eddie opinion somewhere. Anyway. Jersey guy, I think. Cool last name, but he spells it wrong. Mid '80s album (just reissued on American Beat Records) features Max Weinberg, Ian Maclagan, Mitchell Froom, Nils Lofgren, and David Lindley, but it just sounds like a sub-sub-John Cafferty/Corey Hart hack Springsteen imitation, and doesn't hold my attention at all. But "Jungle Boy," which went to #52 on the pop chart apparently though I don't think I've ever once heard it on the radio, is weird! Not nearly as good as "Tarzan Boy" by Baltimora from around the same time, which I'm sure some people must have confused it with back then, but still: A blatant Gary Glitter "Rock and Roll Part Two" rip via Bruce, basically. What the hell? It would not be hard to make a Jimmy Ray connection, if I really wanted to.

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago)

if you were on the jersey shore in the mid-'80s -- and probably other parts of the northeast -- you heard lots of "jungle boy" on the radio. and even a little bit of "pretty little rebel," from the same album.

started out as john eddie and the front street runners, who i think were more of a south jersey/philly club phenomenon than a jersey shore phenomenon, but the springsteen/southside/beaver brown fans looooved them. eventually dropped the band name and settled on the shore, where he hit with those two songs immediately and then was never able to follow up. his biggest weakness, i think, was his bland, powerless voice. but he kept trying, with a bit of a kinda sorta dance album if i recall correctly, and at least one country/folk/acoustic/singer-songwriter album, speaking of this thread. at least until recently, he was still playing the shore fairly regularly.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 20 May 2007 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

and, oh yeah, since you were seeking an opinion: "jungle boy" and "pretty little rebel" were very much the peak, and not much of a peak, though they were fun summer beach songs back in the day. the sundry followup attempts weren't anything to write homoe about.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 20 May 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago)

home. d'oh.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 20 May 2007 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

I had Paisley on while cleaning the house, and it struck me about like the last one, except I didn't hear anything as undeniable as "Alchohol." He still likes the nice deliberate waltz and he still comes across to these ears as Sly Shmeagle With Trick Guitar, don't underestimate this man or he'll give your girlfriend a back rub, invite his country friends over for Kung Pao and then leave you with a frozen pizza, and drive away in a bigger car than you can afford. Mild pleasures. Excellent guitar playing.

Went to see the Porter Wagoner 50th-Anniv. show at the Opry last night, got to go backstage. Dolly was there reading off the teleprompter, Little Jimmy Dickens had a very tall beautiful blonde with him who could've just picked him up and carried him like a bowling ball. Good enough. Porter sang a couple and had Dolly Parton sing "I Will Always Love You" to him. Porter looked his age but got out there like a trouper. As to the new Porter record, Wagonmaster really does re-create the sound of stuff like "Rubber Room" and it's grown on me some. The voice is a bit shaky but hell the man's nearly 80 and he's had some serious health issues. I like the uptempo numbers and "Committed to Parkview" and the stories and recitations. Stuart and band get the loopy and harder-than-you-might-think-bub sound of the originals well enough, but then I listened to the original of Wagoner's "My Many Hurried Southern Trips" and the new one sounded a bit superfluous.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 20 May 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

Danny Flowers' Tools for the Soul belongs here--first cut is a harmony duet with Emmylou Harris and throughout he balances rockin' folkieism with something a bit darker. He's a Nashville artist who's in his 50s, I think, and at first listen I think, another folkie. But actually he's got a voice--some would say he sounds like Clapton but I hear Andy Fairweather Low and maybe even some Ronnie Lane or for those of you who remember this obscure but fine record, Coulson, Dean McGuinness Flint's Dylan songbook Lo and Behold, from 1973. Something English folk-rocker and modal about him, and he does play good guitar in a style somewhere between folk and country blues. Maybe a little bit like Buddy Miller, too, in religious preoccupations. It's a pretty nice little record, and for what it's worth it's better than Richard Shindell's superficially similar South of Delia, because you can hear what Flowers is trying to express right up front in the voice.

I'll mention that I have a piece on the great Johnny Bush coming out in the Nashville Scene this week. I really admire Bush and have been listening to his Stop singles and to some of his comeback stuff from the 00s, and it's all pretty damned good, and his RCA stuff ain't bad either. The original version of "Whiskey River" might be an interesting thing to hear if you only know the innumerable Willie versions.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 20 May 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

The Best of The Count Bishops (Chiswick/Ace, including seven tracks recorded "Live at the Roundhouse 18/02/78") in the changer now, and it might be even better than Speedball + 11, come to think of it. Their best regular issue LP is Choice Cuts from 1978 (which I now own on both CD and LP), edging out The Count Bishops from 1977. Honorable mention: Rollin' With The Count Bishops EP, Ace reissue w/outtakes, 2006.
My favorite song by them overall is their version of "Somebody's Gonna Get Their Head Kicked In Tonite" by Fleetwood Mac, which Cowboy Troy should hear. It really does sound like Motorhead on a horse.

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

Oops, Cross Cuts, I mean.

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

Now that you develop, Edd, or maybe now that I read more carefully, I don't disagree with you at all.

Saw Ray Price Thursday night at the casino in St. Charles MO. I had fears. He sounded creaky and lost on that pointless geezer-weed-party-cash-in Last of the Breed. Thursday night he was stoned stoned stoned--but his voice! Lord that voice. Cool and warm and uptown soulful. His band read off charts all night, probably because he's doing the hits twice as fast as he should--and it's not a Ray Price shuffle if it's too fast--but that's ok, because that way he fit more in to a set without going all medley crazy. He's 82 or something, so don't don't don't miss him.

Roy Kasten, Sunday, 20 May 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

Cuz, I didn't mean to imply that "mordant wit" etc. can't be found in mainstream, just that a mainstream/"major" label would prob get nervous about it, esp. re young female artist, esp. if it's in a song from writer perceived as "out," to any degree. (Notice that young female artists always to include a song about how family and hometown will not be forgotten, not that guys don't have to do that too, at some point, but it's required for female debuts, seems like)Not that handleers wouldn't let her do it,esp. after "Kerosene,"just that would want some image-tweaking. Notice the first single, which she didn't look too thrilled to be performing on TV lately, and think it was Edd she mentioned her reservations to, first-single-wise. Lo And Behold is indeed excellent!

dow, Sunday, 20 May 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago)

Andy Fairweather Low too, at least his 70s albums; haven't heard him much since then. Speaking of UK country-folk-rock (although Andy did other stuff too), anybody ever heard Ronnie Lane's Slim Chance?

dow, Sunday, 20 May 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, Ronnie Lane's Slim Chance is good, I've heard that stuff. the Count Bishops stuff sounds fantastic. good you saw Ray, Roy, I've been off into Price's Night Life for some time now, and the whole Ray Price mythos vis-a-vis the Cherokee Cowboys and Johnny Bush, and wondered if he could still cut it at 82. They're all up there who have survived: Porter's 79, I think, and Charlie Louvin will be 80 this summer, Ray, Mac Wiseman...so he was swinging fast, Ray Price was?

the Lambert record, yeah, it is definitely something to make the whole alt- vs. mainstream discussion moot. I'm not a huge Gillian Welch fan, dunno if she's a schoolmarm as Chuck says (schoolmarms can be sexy!), but Miranda really does her song up, that works great, and "Dry Town" and "Famous in a Small Town" really work together, I mean she doesn't sound stupid doing that usual small-town country trope, she sounds kinda real to me and that's what matters. Now back to watching the extra scenes on this DVD of Desperate Man Blues, as great a character study of collectormania and fruitful tunnel vision as I've ever seen.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 20 May 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago)

KORPIKLAANI "Vesilahden Verajilla" on now, just tearing my heart apart.

Guess it doesn't hurt that its melody is largely swiped from "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" (or whatever pagan tune ancient Goth Christians stole "God Rest Ye...") from, also utilized by Faroe Island Viking metallers Tyr last year and David Banner a few years ago. Then at the end the melody changes to "Fade to Black" by Metallica, and if you want a sad metal melody, that's about the best one you can steal. But most of the rest of the new Korpiklaani album is a great drunken swirl, polkas round and round the campfire in the middle of the snowy Finland woods, with your trusty and loyal wolf by your side. First song (and one of the few English titles) pretty much sums up the mood: "Let's Drink."

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago)

Best sampled with ale in a stein made of wood:

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xhuxk, Sunday, 20 May 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago)

And the more I play their EP, Edmonton cdbabies the Plain Dealers turn out to be somewhat more leaden and alt-country than I stated above (and also less jazzy, though "Before The Fire" is almost Marshall Tucker-worthy in its cowboy guitar uplift and "Away From the Trains" has a good railroad rhythm with twang sounds serving as whistles blowing), but I'd still recommend them to fans of the Bottle Rockets.

xhuxk, Monday, 21 May 2007 00:05 (seventeen years ago)

Heard the studio release of the Reba "Because Of You" and her singing is heavy and weepy and inflexible; Kelly C., who harmonizes and who sings lead on the second verse, is great as ever, and the song now overwhelms me with feeling anyway, no matter what; but I doubt I'll find much reason to listen to this version.

(But note that Anthony and I were saying last year that this song belonged on country radio.)

Frank Kogan, Monday, 21 May 2007 04:37 (seventeen years ago)

I've italicized the Count Bishop songs in Xhuxk's list previously covered by the Stones:

"Route 66," "Teenage Letter," "I Ain't Got You," "Cry To Me," "Sweet Little Sixteen, "Carol," "Mercy Mercy," "Reelin' and Rockin," "Down the Road Apiece" (most country track here, and it's awesome), "I'm a Man" (perhaps the Stones also covered "Reelin' and Rockin," but I may be confusing that with "'Round and 'Round," which they definitely covered).

Frank Kogan, Monday, 21 May 2007 04:49 (seventeen years ago)

Song I almost defintely overrated on the Cole Deggs & the Lonesome album: "Do You Think About Me," the one I compared to turn of the '80s Bob Seger. And it might not be alone in overratedness, and at least three tracks ("Twelve Ounces Deep," "The One That Got Away," "Girl Like You") pretty much draw a blank. So caveat emptor. But I still think it's a very solid album, much better than a Paisley record, and I'd say it has a fairly good shot of making by Nashville Scene top ten at the end of the year, especially if a few songs really sink in as hits.

xhuxk, Monday, 21 May 2007 12:16 (seventeen years ago)

And actually, a few of the guitar parts (e.g., in "I Got More") remind me of Tom Keifer's explorations on Cinderella's Long Cold Winter. (A compliment!)

xhuxk, Monday, 21 May 2007 12:20 (seventeen years ago)

Their mice pace page:

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xhuxk, Monday, 21 May 2007 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

Is it just me, or does Jason Aldean have no definable personality, on record, at least? I'm about to go on record saying as much, but I really wonder if I'm missing something.

Willman, Monday, 21 May 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago)

I wouldn't have a problem reading that take on Aldean--never have figured out where the guy's coming from, if he's coming from anywhere.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 21 May 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.lefthip.com/review_detail.php?reviewID=740&PHPSESSID=4dcbcd65d9783bd1c3952e3e761149e0

pinkmoose, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 23:49 (seventeen years ago)

So, Anthony's description suggests to me that the escapism of "Last Dollar" is meant to be understood as another moment in the life of a restless, sometimes unsettled guy, who's determined to express each mood, go with it, but delve into it too. "Live like you were dying" in a more observational, less "inspirational" way. Like Womack went from "I Hope You Dance" to a more earthly mode, but with mixed results, commercially (and otherwise). Just heard xgau's review of Last Of The Breed on NPR. He said they def aren't last, there's plenty of geezers peddling new CDs "to the download-impaired," but he thinks this is some of the freshest geezer-bait he's heard in a while. Most of the excerpts he plays feature Merle most prominently, but lots of voices; I hope it doesn't have the old cowboy backup chorus all the way through. Fun and contemplation and good song choices etc, he says, and excerpts do seem to bear this out. I couldn't get into the last Willie & Ray set, Run That By Me One More Time, but with Merle this sharp, hey.

dow, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago)

can someone explain Like Red on a Rhodes to me? I see these smooth jazz references upthread, but what I heard first was Garth, which made me feel funny.

also, I see him as a very subtle, cagey mostly good guy, but then again I think everyone I like is a liberal who would agree with me most of the time, and the facts differ

gabbneb, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

I guess my take on Anthony's contextualization of "Last Dollar" (which he doesn't seem that thrilled with),could be summed up with his line about the video's texturing: "Shit on purpose." Shit but signif shit, re the many moods of the narrator, when you hear it on the album, or so I hope.

dow, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago)

to get further into Alan Jackson, start with his volumes of Greatest Hits, or any singles you can listen to online, cos he seems like more of a singles artist, at least before this album.

dow, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago)

i'm already into him; i meant can someone explain this album in the context of his prior body of work (tho, ok, i mostly know the hits)

gabbneb, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago)

Just heard the Gretchen Wilson. Unlike the Lambert, it doesn't have a lot of obvious standouts*, but it still feels really nice all the way through, might even be a steady-going wonderful like last year's Toby Keith and Alan Jackson, and I like her a lot more now that she isn't jabbing her demographic elbows into everyone's ribs all the time. Probably her best album, even if there's no "When It Rains, I Pour."

*Though the Lambert has so many standouts that they don't really stand out (on the alb, that is; would on the radio).

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 24 May 2007 00:17 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, I've checked with someone who would know, on a personal and musical level, and it has been affirmed for me: Aldean = lights not on and nobody home. Settled, at last!

Willman, Thursday, 24 May 2007 03:40 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not even sure I've ever heard any other Jason Aldean songs besides "Hick Town," though I probably have. (Oh wait, I think I heard "Johnny Cash" on the hotel room TV when I was on vacation.) Those two songs are both good. How typical are they for him?

Definitely I heard weak spots on Gretchen's new album, though I agree it's at least as good as her other two, if not better. I should pull it out again.

Have to write a review of the new Cowboy Troy album for work this week, and I wound up liking it more than I thought I would, now that I've listened to it more. Give or take the '70s prehistoric-school DJ Hollywood/Fatback/Bohannon rap over '70s funk-rock guitar and disco strings (and rhymes of "record exec" with "get a crick in your neck") in "Blackneck Boogie," which is probably my favorite track, the roots of his rap flow seem to triangulate somewhere in the area between Coolio, Crazytown, and the Fun Lovin' Criminals, as far as I can tell. Which makes him kinda clueless, but so what? And I overstated the gnu-metal influence earlier; the album isn't really oafish in a Bizkit all that often. ("Lock Me Up" is the worst offender, I guess.) "How Can You Hate Me?" is a well-meaning rap-ballad response, I guess, to racists who've threatened Troy on the web or whatever; he actually talks about lynching and getting dragged behind a truck, though I wouldn't say he makes that much out of it. "Take Your Best Shot Now" is another ballad ("I never lived in the 'hood but I used to work there"!?), similar sonic vintage. "Man With the Microphone" is a drowsy and vaguely depressed piece of pysch-pop in Big Kenny mode; not too bad. "Paranoid Like Me," the proggy parts of which I compared to Metallica above, is actually sort of pretty as pop ominiousness goes, with a nice guitar solo. Outside of "Blackneck Boogie," my picks are probably the crazy-froggy Eurosynthdanced remix of "I Play Chicken With the Train" and "Cruise Control," a hazy days of summer picnic basket blaster in which Troy does his best Shifty Shellshock imitation. Last couple have plenty of Kid Rock in them, too. Second half of the album is better than the first. All in all, not as fun as the debut, but too silly a mess to complain about.

xhuxk, Thursday, 24 May 2007 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

Shoot, I fucked that up -- a bunch of words got erased. "Cruise Control" is the summer one, but also has shout-outs to Guns N Roses and John Anderson and good funky 16th note drums at the start; "My Bowtie" has the Shifty Shellshockish part, but also a convincing '70s hard rock riff. Or something. (And the more I read my descrption of the album, the more I realize how ambivalent I am about it all. But I don't hate it. More people should make albums this scattershot; the world would be a better place.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 24 May 2007 12:11 (seventeen years ago)

I'll admit Aldean's debut won me over, thinking he was developing a rather winning persona as a sorta shlubby, sweetly faithful, nose-to-the-grindstone kind of Everyguy.

This new one though is utterly charmless. I should've expected it after "Johnny Cash," which I know some people like but I think is one of the most hilariously cliched, witless hits to come down the pike in some time. I could only make it through about half the record before losing interest completely, but all I heard were endless crappy platitudes, the inevitable song about his own unlikely rise to fame, and some soggy relationship stuff that wasn't nearly as endearing as his debut.

Gretchen's album is way better, but I don't understand Frank's claim that "I like her a lot more now that she isn't jabbing her demographic elbows into everyone's ribs all the time." If "There Goes the Neighborhood" doesn't fit that bill to a T, I don't know what does. "You Don't Have to Go Home" and "There's a Place in the Whiskey" sound equally generic, but there's some dynamite stuff here too like the title track and especially "If You Want a Mother."

JoshLove, Thursday, 24 May 2007 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

xp: I also just realized that barely a single word in my Cowboy Troy album description had anything whatsoever to do with country music! Well, there are fiddle fills in some (if not most) of the songs. And "Blackneck Boogie" has Troy saying do-si-do bow-to-your-partner; square dance calls were rap before rap existed, after all. Elsewhere, he calls out to redneck women and dixie chicks. And there are sort-of-country-ish background voices -- James Otto in "Cruise Control" is probably best. (Uncle Kracker fans, if any exist, would totally love that song.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 24 May 2007 12:51 (seventeen years ago)

Johnny Cash," which I know some people like but I think is one of the most hilariously cliched, witless hits to come down the pike in some time.

This might be true. Having only possibly overheard it one time in a hotel room, I probably shouldn't have claimed it to be a good song; how the hell would I know? Though I'm pretty sure it sounded okay at the time. (On the other hand, I was on vacation. Lots of crap sounds good when you're on vacation.)

Maybe I just liked that it didn't try to sound like Johnny Cash! Which was probably a pleasant surprise.

xhuxk, Thursday, 24 May 2007 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

anybody out there heard this Beverley Knight record? Music City Soul? I saw a little piece in a recent Billboard on her, she done it here and I think at Mark Nevers' (another one). apparently it's UK-only at this point.

just got the Big & Rich advance, finally, so once I get time today that's the first thing I'll put on. I've been writing about the new Porter last couple of days, listening to his old shit like "Rubber Room" and "Carroll County Accident." on some of those circa-'70 songs, Wagoner sounds like a prophet of acid consciousness straight out of a vintage American International dope movie. Great stuff, and the comp, The Rubber Room, covers all that prime material and even reproduces the wild cover images from those albums, where Porter is a cuckold, a bum, a convict, a farmer a lech (can't see his hand in a shot with Dolly but I bet I know where it is) and in triplicate, twice, on some decent acid but still wearing the same clothes.

so this guy I know here had hiccups, for a day, and it was getting worse, nothing helped, and they tried everything: scare tactics, ice cube on the neck below the ear (that almost always works). what eventually cured them was the ultimate scare tactic: a montage of Amy Winehouse close-up photographs, some with fangs drawn on them, others just as they are/she is. scared the hiccups right out the guy, for real, the curative picture is up on the wall at Grimey's Records in Nashville, so if you have hiccups that won't go away or just need a jolt in general, check it out. I'm still trying to figure out the appeal of Winehouse myself.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 24 May 2007 14:05 (seventeen years ago)

Gabneb, there was a lot of discussion of Like Red On A Rose on Rolling 2006 Country, and maybe the beginning of this one.

dow, Thursday, 24 May 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

Josh, I didn't say she was never jabbing her demographic elbows. You're right about that song, but she doesn't sing it nearly as obnoxiously as she would have a couple of years ago. Her singing has gotten better - less blaring. The reason I like the Eurobosh remix of "Redneck Woman" so much is that it transforms an assertion of identity into a chimpmunk-voiced woman making it sound like it's a lot of fun to be a redneck chipmunk.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago)

New Kelly Willis album Translated From Love: Don't dwell on the synths (much as I love them here): this isn't new wave Americana pop: this is just a Kelly Willis album, but one on which she has more fun with phrasing, sounds more alive, so gets more out of her voice (which I'll soon argue in print is one of the most purely fetching voices in country) than she ever has. It's also a Chuck Prophet album, which means I like it 100 times more than the Nels Cline Wilco record.

Roy Kasten, Friday, 25 May 2007 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

did Jim Dickinson produce a Chuck Prophet record, or cover some of his songs? on the Wilco, twin guitars rule! I wish they'd just done it as an all-instrumental record, maybe with some Jeff Tweedy Singers doing a few ooh-la-las.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:54 (seventeen years ago)

So Cold Eggs is a weird name for a singer, isn't it?

Pulled Gretchen's new one back out in light of Frank's rave, and I'm still not convinced it's all Frank says it is -- not sure how she's singing better (she sounds pretty much the same to me), and her ballads are as dull as they've always been. Why do her slow songs never have hooks in them? I don't get that. Other people's do, sometimes. Hers just go right by me, leave no effect at all. I don't get if her singing just always winds up sounding thinner when she slows down, or that's when producers turn her into a purist bore, or what. Well, "Come To Bed" and "Painkiller" are okay, I guess. I can live with them. But though "You Don't Have to Come Home" might read dumber, it definitely sounds a lot better -- I'd take it over those two on the basis on its beat alone. (Also, I mentioned before that "If You Want a Mother" sounds exactly like "Okee From Muskogee," right? And "Place in the Whiskey" sounds a lot like "Call Me The Breeze," Skynyrd version at least. Don't think I ever heard J.J. Cale's own version.)

Posted this on the metal thread this morning:

Finished getting though the Count Bishops pile, and finally decided that, although tons of the tracks are great, they were also too samey to make for truly great albums. I'm happy to own everything I've got by them, but over album length, the tough r&b cover after tough r&b cover gets a bit wearing, and kinda stodgy too. Someone wrote on some other thread a few days ago that some Dr. Feelgood album I'd never heard was the best pub-rock album ever give or take Eddie and the Hot Rods, and I realized that, if I'm gonna be honest, I might like the one Feelgood album I own (Malpractice) and the two Eddie and the Hot Rod ones I own more, not to mention the one Ducks Deluxe album I own, more than any of the Count Bishops albums I own. They were just sort of one-dimensional. Though it was a very cool dimension.

xhuxk, Saturday, 26 May 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

"You Don't Have to GO Home"

Okay, "Come To Bed" on now. It's nice. Breakup to makeup song, take the grand tour. And yeah, there's some semblance of a hook. But it still doesn't tear me up, which is what it's aiming for, and fighting-during-marriage should do it easy. (I actually like it less when John Rich shows up).

xhuxk, Saturday, 26 May 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

Or maybe it's just that, whenever Gretchen does her more rocking songs, she totally sounds like she's having a blast, whereas when she does the ballads, she just sounds to me like she's fulfilling some kind of moral obligation. (Not sure what sonically convinces me of that, but that's how she feels.) Bottom line is, I have no interest in her being tasteful -- I almost want to say that the crasser is she is, the better she is. Which might be the exact opposite of what Frank's been saying, I'm not sure.

xhuxk, Saturday, 26 May 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

Saw her on the Tonight Show recently, while I was busy, so din't catch many of the words, but def insinuating, "Things are okay tonight, but let's not either of us take it for granted, babe." Good, but her balladering does seem to be rubbing some the wrong way. Voice's Nate C. compared it to Hambuger Helper, which I like, but not on ballads.(Nor does he.) But I haven't kept up with her since the first album, so who knows. So what is your Ducks Deluxe album like? Intrigued by the song Elizabeth McQueen covered.

dow, Saturday, 26 May 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago)

I think "If You Want a Mother" is the masterstroke on the Gretchen record. think she sings good but sounds a little confused in some basic way.

saw Johnny Bush this afternoon, with a great band. Roy upthread mentioned Ray Price. Bush is in the same league--he tore it up with the insouciance of a jazz singer, Buddy Emmons ripped off some amazing fills and solos and Pete Wade played guitar. did Moon Mullican's "I'll Sail My Ship Alone" just fine and he did "Whiskey River" as a thank-you to BMI--who was there to present him with a certificated saying "Whiskey River" has been played a million times on TV and radio. just damned excellent--he should do the definitive Sings Willie Nelson record, he's the man to do it.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 27 May 2007 01:04 (seventeen years ago)

Agree about "If You Want a Mother" being the best song on the Gretchen record. Somewhere, in some alternate universe, there is a DJ playing that and Robbie Fulks' new live version of "I Want to Be Mama-ed" back to back.

Willman, Sunday, 27 May 2007 05:07 (seventeen years ago)

I sort of agree that it's cool that "Johnny Cash" doesn't sound remotely like Johnny Cash and sort of don't. Did anyone see the interview Holly Gleason did with Aldean for the L.A. Times? It opens with him admitting he was never a fan of Cash. I guess that's slightly even more brave than it is stupid on his part, and I would give him kudos for his honesty if he seemed like he might be smart enough to be a real fan of any other deserving legend. Anyway, as long as he gets John Rich to write his leadoff singles, people may think he has a personality. But once you get past the "take this job and shove it" sentiments of the first verse of the first song, you're pretty much finished with the "attitude" on the album. Again, not that that's bad--but when he does conventional Nashville tuneage, it doesn't seem like any of the town's finest gave him a song they wouldn't rather put on hold for Kenny or Tim. I don't know why he is sticking in my craw so much, when there are so many worse records coming out. I hardly hold it against people who don't write their own songs. But there's something about the way he carries and presents himself that says: I am the kind of renegade who is realer than all that other stuff. Anyway, woe unto anyone who hears the "screw you, man" in the single and imagines that he is someone who would do anything but bend over backward for the boss.

Willman, Sunday, 27 May 2007 05:17 (seventeen years ago)

I really, really loved the first Cowboy Troy album. I cannot tell you how much ridicule and scorn I got for that. When I mentioned to colleagues that I was toying with the idea of putting his album on my top ten list for the year, I honestly felt like there might be some petition started to fire me before that could happen. So, all that said, this followup strikes me on first listen as deeply bad, so much so that I am tempted to imagine that everyone who excoriated me the first time around was right and I was deeply deluded. But I think what I was responding to most the first time was the settings, even though I liked Troy personally; it was like a great melange of vintage pop stylings that just happened to have this other gimmicky hybrid on top. But this time, it seems like they gave the heave-ho to the pop and just put the gimmick on top of a much more obviously nu-metal-derived bed. And that was kind of why "I Play Chicken with the Train" worked, but the fiddles and power chords thing is already becoming its own cliche. Anyway, does anybody else have that same experience--you stand up for something, and then the next time around, dislike it so much that you wonder if you were hypnotized before?

Willman, Sunday, 27 May 2007 05:26 (seventeen years ago)

Whisperin' Edd: Can't believe you don't get Amy Winehouse... can't believe anyone doesn't... though it may be instructive for me to figure out what the turnoff (or indifference) factor is. The record more and more feels to me like a classic, or as close as we come this century. But I can also say that she was one of the less rewarding-feeling interviews I've ever done. Whenever I hear somebody trot out the maxim "Don't meet your heroes," I usually say that I've been lucky enough to really never regret meeting anybody I respected. But Amy is the rare case where we didnt click to the point that I can sort of say I probably would have been better off enjoying the mystique from afar... Sorry, off-topic I know (though there is probably some country-inclusive discussion to be had some time about whether interviewing your faves generally enhances the listening experience later or leaves you disillusioned).

Willman, Sunday, 27 May 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago)

(in reply to your "self-deluded after all?" query re Cowboy Troy first vs. second album)Yeah, but have you listened to the first album again, since you had this reaction to the second? Might be just another case of second album slump. I just saw a pretty amazing 50-odd minute Dixie Chicks set on Austin City Limits (more on PBS.org, but I had to catch my breath first. Chamber met arena, and they rocked that chamber like ringing a bell. Mind you, they were deadpan, white faces over black armor (well maybe it was polished cotton, but still), and business-like as much defiant or steadfast, but the music streamed around and from them, more effective for contrast, even though they sang a bit too stolidly sometimes. Think it was all from the last two albums, so no direct competition with the mostly excellent and better-rounded live album, but then that had a few older tracks that sounded sung-out; this set's got its own conhesion and momentum. The Fleetwood Mac influence runs deep (and/or touching on the Mac's own influences), and a certain Subterranean Homesick Tombstone Blues inflection in some of the picking and vocal phrasing (also maybe like late Move/early ELO, when Roy Wood was semi-Lennon vs. Jeff Lyne's demi-Mccartney ick) factor?)But hardly a pastiche, and even "Not Ready To Make Nice" kills (like it always tried to), in this context. Sorry, I know we've spent the best years of our lives gabbing about the Chicks,or I have, but damn!

dow, Sunday, 27 May 2007 06:08 (seventeen years ago)

I liked the firt Cowboy Troy album too! Not top ten worthy, but certainly more top ten worthy than most of what wound up on peoples' top tens that year. And yeah, it's occured to me in the past two weeks that it may not have been quite as good as I thought. But Chris, I think it's more likely you hit the nail on the head when you said the new one seems to forfeit the pop element -- a lot of it just sounds dreary, and "serious." ("Cruise Control" and "Blackneck Boogie" are exceptions.)

Amy Winehouse's retro schtick, on the other hand, just seems ridiculous to me, neither enjoyable to listen to nor remotely convincing. I don't like her voice, I don't hear tunes. As soul music, it stinks. And to be honest I never listen to old Billie Holiday records in the first place. I talked about Amy somewhere up thread. (My thoughts about Ducks Deluxe are possibly up there too, or maybe on last year's rolling thread when I bought that LP. When I have more time, I'll do a search.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 27 May 2007 13:34 (seventeen years ago)

In unrelated news (though somewhat related to the Willowz' blooze-mama schtick maybe), I just listened to and couldn't stand the Amy Winehouse album (or the parts of it I could make it through before I gave up, anyway.) Strained-vocal "fine taste" "soul" malarkey from the UK; comes complete with obligatory Billie Holiday comparisons. Huge over there, apparently; could well hit here. Let's hope not.

-- xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, January 14, 2007

Too late, I guess! (400,000 units sold in US and counting, last time I checked.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 27 May 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

tonight I am too busy listening to my Ducks Deluxe LP. (Don't Mind Rockin' Tonite. Which is great. They may not rock as hard as Count Bishops, but they definitely rock harder than Nick Lowe or Dave Edmunds. And as hard as Eddie and the Hot Rods, at least.) (American equivalent of pub rock would be...Brownsville Station?)

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On their album Ducks Deluxe cover "It's All Over Now," which has definitely also inspired country covers by John Anderson etc., plus "I Fought the Law" and Van M's "Here Comes The Night," which should have whether they did or didn't. The Rolling Stone "red" guide also says Ducks do a song called "West Texas Trucking Board," but it's not on my copy. There's definitely a hard rockabilly tinge to some stuff though.)

-- xhuxk, Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:08 AM (2 months ago)

Uh, didn't say that much I guess. More someday, one would hope...

xhuxk, Sunday, 27 May 2007 13:42 (seventeen years ago)

From teenpop thread:

So, can one of the Brits out there explain why Amy Winehouse (whose album comes out in the States in March) is something more than, like, the new Des'ree or Dionne Farris or something? I mean, I get it, I think: "Authentic soul" tedium for grownups with "good taste", and her single is about not being able to stop drinking or taking drugs, apparently, so that makes her Billie Holiday. And what makes her authentic is that her singing strains all the life out, so see, she's obviously on her last legs and therefore highly moving. Why should I care? I couldn't get through four songs on the CD yesterday.

-- xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, January 15, 2007 2:35 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link

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I like Amy Winehouse, she's funny. She's not asking for your pity, she's asking for a blimmin pint, right now mate and she'll probably give you a wink and a smile if you oblige or maybe even if you don't. She's always been rude and obnoxious and looked a bit like she might start a brawl at any moment but there're also some nice little confessional-without-being-pathetic moments in her music and I think it's genius. She's saying she doesn't want to go to rehab because she thinks it's a load of old bollocks, not 'ooh poor me I can't get off the booze.' Amy certainly wouldn't want your pity, although she does seem to be in something of a state, judging by the less reputable gossip rags, she's always immaculately turned out on stage, bar the fact she has a large tattoo of a woman with her breasts out on one of her arms.

I wrote something about her current album here, if you're a)interested or b)very bored.

-- Hazel Robinson (Moggy), Monday, January 15, 2007 6:21 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link

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...and then of course there's always this!

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i'm really bored of the "amy winehouse is grown-up authentic fake soul for the 12-CD-a-year brigade" criticism, sorry chuck, it's just that there's so bloody much of it already over here. (i mean, in these circles alone: the mainstream press loves amy's music.) she mines the past but polishes it up at the same time; her voice is naturally quite bluesy or whatever (i don't think it's an affectation). these may help her appeal to the 12-cd brigade but she's much more interesting once you, y'know, listen to her songs and stuff, rather than just skim them.

"Authentic soul" tedium for grownups with "good taste"

yeah she's pitched as this to various quarters because that helps her shift units. doesn't mean that's what she is.

and her single is about not being able to stop drinking or taking drugs, apparently, so that makes her Billie Holiday

no one's claiming she's billie holiday, and the single isn't so much about how she can't stop drinking boo hoo, it's that she's not going to stop drinking fuck you. ie what hazel said. (a side point about the drinking: i think we're pretty much past the moral censure of famous women who get pissed, in the uk, apart from the more right-wing newspapers. when chaz church and girls aloud go on benders, it's reported luridly, but there's a sense of "good strong healthy specimens of british womanhood" about it all. with amy winehouse it is different because...well she's probably approaching lohan levels of self-abuse here. there's no "apparently" about any of it, girl does need help.)

And what makes her authentic is that her singing strains all the life out, so see, she's obviously on her last legs and therefore highly moving.

the singing in 'rehab' is jaunty and jolly and cocking a snook at everyone who thinks she should be on her last legs! at no point does winehouse even try to move us with tales of alcoholism - the booze is incidental to what she does try to move us with, the heartbreak and vague self-loathing. she succeeds because she's genuinely witty - not waving a big HELLO I'M COMEDY sign around a la lily allen or mike skinner, but smart and self-aware and self-deprecating and assured. listen to the way she sings the couplet "i don't ever want a drink again - ooh, i just need a friend", the wink-wink at the audience of the first line undercut so effectively by the pathos of the second. and 'you know i'm no good' - which is basically my favourite song right now if only because it's a spot-on depiction of a situation i was in a while back - is all about how harmed/harmful she is, but it's full of references to, like, chips and pitta and stuff.

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I guess my problem with Winehouse is that, no matter how "funny" Brits seem to think she is (which I get the idea from the posts above has as much or not more to do with her public image as her music -- though Lex and Hazel do note the latter, admittedly), her singing sounds completely humorless to me. Which is to say Hazel's Lauryn Hill imitations absolutely ring true to me: The NPR tedium is right there in her sound. But who knows, maybe I'll change my mind as the year goes on. More likely, there's a language gap. I'm guessing that Americans won't pick up on the humor of it, even it's there; they'll pick up on the impeccable taste of it instead. (As for others making the same criticism as I have, that's news to me; I've barely read a word about the woman, here or elsewhere. So actually it's encouraging to hear I'm far from alone in my opinion.)

-- xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:29 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link

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did you like lauryn, chuck? it's maybe a good comparison in that you can hear all these signifiers of tastefulness, the ways in which both would appeal to a white middle-class radio 2 audience (i don't know what npr is - i'm guessing our radio 2 is the equivalent). (amy's a lot less ambitious than lauryn though.)

but unlike others of that ilk, joss stone et al, both lauryn and amy i think are much better than that. (not that i think there's anything wrong with coffee-table diluted soul: i love me some sade.)

americans might not pick up on amy's dry humour but they'll probably pick up on the "boozy british chick" thing, which is if not humour than certainly black comedy.

-- lex pretend (lex pretend), Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:39 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link

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(for the record i love lauryn.)

-- lex pretend (lex pretend), Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:39 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link

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(for the record, i don't.)

-- xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:44 PM (4 months ago)

xhuxk, Sunday, 27 May 2007 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

well, Willman, Amy Winehouse. Sometimes you gotta go with what's being presented you, that's what they want you to notice, and that damned video where AW is in the tub lolling around looking all skanktified (as we say on Sunday mornings)--that just makes me crazy, and the spread in EW makes her look even worse. I mean she makes videos so I'm judging her on that. She's not doing Remedial Billie (Holiday) as much as that, to my ears, typically misguided English soul trip. I don't much care for Joss Stone either, altho she's better-looking (and would Joss be a star if she looked like Mama Cass or Phoebe Snow, both pretty good singers actually)? I mean geez, I listen to soul music all the time and I find Amy W. just bland and forgettable, I ain't buying into any of it and don't remotely care. But she really does cure hiccups.

So far, the new Big & Rich is really really disappointing. The ballads, yuck, and the uptempo songs seem devoid of inspiration. So, to answer Willman's question about loving something/defending it, yep, I found much to admire in the last Big & record (and think John's production of the new John Anderson fantastic), but the new one just kind of lies there.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 27 May 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

happy, too, because yesterday I went into Lawrence Brothers on Lower Broad in Nashvegas and found for $9 American an LP of Willie Nelson's Face of a Fighter, '60s demos collected on a late-'70s LP that I don't think has been reissued. good stuff.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 27 May 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

I'm finding the Mekons' imminent (and supposedly inspired by "the wilds of the English countryside") Natural (due out in August) supremely lazy and lackadaisical and annoying, even more so than most of the other stuff they've put out in the nearly two decades now since I stopped caring about them. I mean, I know half-assedness and sloppiness and not being able to sing on-key were part of their raison d'etre from the gitgo, but there is a point when such flatness stops being charming and starts being a boring crutch, and I swear for these guys that happened not too long after, I dunno, Edge of the World I guess. I know some people believe they've made great albums since then (just re-read a great piece about them that Luc Sante did for me back at the Voice in his great new collection of essays book, and even he says so), but I've never heard it. Regardless, I'm having trouble believing that anybody is going to fall for this new one, though I don't doubt I'll be proved wrong. Jon Langford sounds approximately as tired as Nick Lowe and Ian Hunter have this year, if not more so. Worst cut I've noticed: An emaciated attempt at reggae called "Cockermouth" that I find downright painful to listen to. And once upon a time, the Mekons did reggae, or at least dub, and mixed it into the Brit death-folk, real good. But somehow, somewhere along the line, their Brit-folk lost whatever beauty it once had, and forget having the rhythmic jig energy to inspire any actual English dancing masters; that went by the wayside years ago, too...Though who knows, I suppose it's possible a Martian landing in his spaceship would have a hard time distinguishing this stuff from Fear and Whiskey. But what the hell do Martians know? For such a proudly unproffesional act, this band long ago turned into the moral equivalent of wheel-spinning pros, and on the new album, they seem to matter less than ever. (On the other hand, I don't doubt that there are many words referencing world-historical events from the past few years. As if that could ever be enough.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 27 May 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago)

Re. Johnny Bush: I've really been enjoying Kashmere Garden Mud this afternoon. Just a real solid country record. Also: of all the great singers--Elvis, Price, Arnold, Robbins--who've tackled one of the greatest and most demanding songs in the English language--Marty Robbins' "You Gave Me a Mountain"--Bush's version is the one.

Roy Kasten, Sunday, 27 May 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago)

Everybody's got the Sante book except me. I guess I'll have to wait 'til it actually gets published.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 27 May 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago)

I don't have it either, although when I asked him about Tintin (comic strip character, not band/artist), he sent me a dandy essay, which he said would be in this book.As with your book, prob publisher limits list to those who might actually get to review and/or blurb it, not us music types. He also sends excellent mulitmedia resource re his current exhibit, The Museum of Crime and the Museum of God:
http://www.apex.org/exhibitions/sante.htm

dow, Sunday, 27 May 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago)

That is, us music types who are not among the most high Ancient Headz, like xxuxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

dow, Sunday, 27 May 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

I didn't get sent one! I got it off the free table at work (where there's also a book bizness magazine.)

Did get sent the new All Access: Big & Rich book, though, oddly. I prefer it to the new album.

xhuxk, Sunday, 27 May 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

Listening to one xxhuxx sent me, Gachupin's s/t, copyright 2005: "Irish Juju" sounds just like I hoped! Wonder if King Sunny Ade's heard it. Some spaghetti dub touches, via Tony Maimone's bass, Frank London's trumpet, and other nice things. Some others have a trans-Carribean thing; Buffett should freshen with this. thanxx

dow, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:09 (seventeen years ago)

What I wrote about them on the whirled music thread:

Good world jazz (better when it veers toward African reggae in "Irish Juju" and "Green" or dub-metal in "Las Armas Secretas" than when it sticks toward more relatively straightforwardish funk harmelodia in "Preza" and "Freakonomics") featuring Tony Maimone on bass plus sundry Flaming Fire and Klezmatics cats, and based, well, apparently a couple blocks from my own apartment in Sunnyside Queens (I'm on 39th Place; the return address on the envelope they sent me was on 41st street, potentially closer than the grocery store I just walked to though I'm not sure what avenues they're between. Still the closest cdbaby band I've liked):

http://cdbaby.com/cd/gachupin

xhuxk, Monday, 28 May 2007 02:40 (seventeen years ago)

willman, not only did i put the first cowboy troy album on my top ten, i put a single on my singles top ten and wrote like 6k words about it

pinkmoose, Monday, 28 May 2007 05:19 (seventeen years ago)

couldn't agree more about the ickiness and tedium of Winehouse, though I suppose it says something that she elicts such strong responses - I gave the record zero stars in a daily newspaper review a few months back and it set off a minor firestorm (as much of a firestorm as any review published in a paper in Raleigh, NC can set off), culminating in a colleague penning a column in Philadelphia Weekly that imagined me being in hell getting sodomized by famous critics for my apparent crimes against rockwrite.

fwiw, I still feel the same about her as I did then - namely that her artistry feels 100% calculated and predictable while constantly and desperately trying to reassert its "realness." Contrived transgressiveness is even more lame than contrived purity in my book. Take away the potted drug references and she's Joss Stone, who's equally dull as a singer but infinitely less irritating as a personality.

JoshLove, Monday, 28 May 2007 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

my review of the winehouse mostly talked about critical reception, i think i was too praiseful of the album itself, its a bit too perfect a pastiche, that said, rehab sounds new, and the sentiment has a commitment towards pleasure that i love

pinkmoose, Monday, 28 May 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

--Big Miranda Lambert interview in the Washington Post today--

The Miranda Lambert interview I wanted to see but didn't so one was custom jerry-built.

I'd link to the LA Times sunday edition on rock musicians crossing over into country but it was just an anthology of the standard cant and year-old leftovers. Jon Bon Jovi! Country audiences like him! He sang with Jennifer Nettles! This sword cuts both ways! Fiddles and mandolins next to guitars! Wanted, dead or alive! Beggars can't be choosers!

Gorge, Monday, 28 May 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago)

Joshlove, what Raleigh paper do you write for? I've written a fair amount for Charlotte.CreativeLoafing, but never gotten such a passionate response. I'm so jealous! It's so hard to find anybody who's bad in an interesting way. (Although that Bobby Conn thing for PaperThinWalls did turn out pretty bad for good.)

dow, Monday, 28 May 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

(bad album for good review, that is.)(I think I'll go toward spoonfeeding the reader this year, little bit.)

dow, Monday, 28 May 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago)

I have decided that I Ike Reilly is a really verbose guy, who actually gives his music a sense of energy sometimes, and who no doubt has very good politics. Sometimes he sounds okay when he's on -- usually when he speeds up. The three songs Matt mentioned as his favorites upthread all sound okay when they're on, and I like some other tracks better than those. Problem is, Ike Reilly is also apparently completely incapable of grabbing me, even for a word at a time, and he has a lot of words, so it really shouldn't be that tough. He's missing something (maybe a band? or maybe a stronger voice? or maybe a producer to give his music more punch?), and I've invested too much time already, so I am hereby giving up. I apologize.

xhuxk, Monday, 28 May 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago)

I bet he has a sense of humor, too (not that he ever makes me laugh -- just seems like he'd have one), and he clearly knows how to put details (fish plant uprisings and Valentine's Days in Juarez) in his songwriting, though following them takes work. There's something happening in there. But he needs a Heartbreakers, or an E Street Band, or a Kenny Aranoff. Or maybe just better melodies. As is, as often as not, he irritates me -- Sounds like he's simultaneously trying too hard and not hard enough.

xhuxk, Monday, 28 May 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago)

the Raleigh News and Observer, dow. it was one of my prouder moments I must say, though I think it's kind of shitty the guy didn't even bother to contact me and open up any kind of actual dialogue before he wrote the slam. if his piece had been any good I'd be really upset and embarrassed, but fortunately it was hysterical crap.

JoshLove, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago)

I still have Ike Reilly's album as my fave rave all-genre album of the year, but there are some others knocking on the door: the 2006 Company revival, Vusi Mahlesela, Los Tigres del Norte, Cortney Tidwell, Macy Gray, Loudon Wainwright III, the Noisettes, Traband, Yellow Sisters, Sean Noonan, Battles, a ton of others. Still though, I've been on the Ike Reilly train since the beginning, I love the verbosity and I feel the hooks, yeah his band could be better maybe but I don't care much. I LIKE working hard on records, and he makes me laugh a lot -- on the new record, I especially like the point where he starts going "I love the ladies, I love the ladies..." and his band comes in with "He loves the ladies, he loves the ladies PLAIN!"

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

June is national accordion month, for what that's worth.

It's also national Frank Kogan month, in that I've now got a regular column (2x a week) in the Las Vegas Weekly.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 2 June 2007 07:33 (seventeen years ago)

Er, that's national accordion awareness month, and national Frank Kogan awareness month.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 2 June 2007 07:34 (seventeen years ago)

amazing musical moment for me today, and im calling it country, because i dnot know what esle to call it, walking by the park today, after an art opening, downtown. hearing some noise, adn some handsome men in white shirts and black ties, and women in modifed bee hives, going towards teh front, its 10 women w. accordians, a gospel choir, a brass band, and this one guuy on the cymbals and a preacher, whos wors were rolling, whose cadences were tight, and he had this fantastic rythym, the band would play, then he would speak, and the one guy with the cymbals would get the best clanging, rollicking noise, that managed to undergird everything...

the weirdest thing, was, at the end of it, though he spoke against all my favourite things (booze, sex, shacking up, communism), and he had these awful lurid examples (hundreds of bodies, in the back allies of chicago, dead by booze, doctors, lawyers, dead in the gutter, covered in flies), the music was so happy, so earnest and passionite, and dedicated to something both practical and cosmic, that i walked out of that park, happier then when i left it.

my favourite musical expereince of the year by far.

pinkmoose, Saturday, 2 June 2007 10:29 (seventeen years ago)

Wow.

So Miranda Lambert's gonna tour with Toby Keith. I don't think the No Depression article on her adhered to all the standard themes that were bugging George

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 June 2007 04:24 (seventeen years ago)

Anthony's favortite musical experience of the year so far is one of my most favorite posts on this whole thread, with Edd's recent riff on Porter Wagoner (more about Porter in Edd's excellent Marty Stuart feature in this week's Nashville Scene, and also check him on Johnny Bush last week). "Brand New Kind Of Actress": just heard this on World Cafe, and fit with the best Zevon tracks they played last hour (in between interviewing his ex-wife Crystal and son Jordan: she's put together a book titled I'll Sleep When I'm Dead, incorporating some fairly harrowing material from his journals, going way back, and Jordan's put together Preludes, demos and other prev unreleased) Anyway, I was liking the Zevon at his most stomp-stomp heavy-country rock, when the lyrics and other were at their most cogent, with no slightly maudlin and/or otherwise too-distractingly contrived "lyrical" whiffy bits, and thinking whoever did "Brand New Kind Of Actress" really had studied his Zevon discriminatingly, and his Drive-By Truckers too (since they tend to have the same strengths and weaknesses as Z.), and turns out it was--Jason Isbell, who's quit the Truckers, and is finally releasing his solo album! (produced by Patterson Hood, I think)

dow, Sunday, 3 June 2007 04:49 (seventeen years ago)

Are we sure Isbell quit the Truckers? Sounded like a did-he-jump-or-was-he-pushed mystery.

Willman, Sunday, 3 June 2007 06:22 (seventeen years ago)

speaking of warren zevon, there is a long ode to him in paul muldoons horse latitudes that might be worth picking up.

a little ramble about dead paper songs up on poptimists.

pinkmoose, Sunday, 3 June 2007 08:26 (seventeen years ago)

not paper, babies

pinkmoose, Sunday, 3 June 2007 08:27 (seventeen years ago)

Dead babies can't take care of themselves. Dead babies can't take things off the shelf. I don't think I know any country songs about dead babies, actually. But jokes about them were big in 7th grade.

Got the new album, Burnt Toast Offerings, by Gretchen Peters, who apparently wrote "Independence Day" for Martina McBride. "England Blues" seemed promising but I couldn't get into the rest of it.

Also couldn't get into this guy's album, though I suspect I'd think it was better than anything I've heard lately by Steve Earle (who he reminds me of) if wasn't "mostly recorded in my bedroom" (in L.A., apparently) with just his "tex mes Fender strat & a big tex acoustic and a Gibson SG." He needs a band. And I don't know, maybe he'll get one -- this stuff has clearly come out pretty quick, since the album is already "dedicated to victims at Virginia State 4-16-07." Anyway, it's Hippie In A Redneck World by Eddie Cunningham, and two of the songs were written with Kim Fowley, who he has apparently also recorded with, and he says his country-rock groups Cowboys & Indians were signed to Atlantic between 1987 and 1990. I never heard them; has anybody? And I do hope to check out his less-demo stuff someday; hard to heard Hendrix influences on bedroom tapes.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/ecunningham5

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 June 2007 12:08 (seventeen years ago)

"Hard to hear," I mean. And Cowboys & Indians were only one country rock group, not more than one.

The country-oriented cdbaby CD I have been loving this week (actually there's two, I'll get to the other one momentarily) is called Hip Hop Country Rock by The Xchange, from New Jersey (white guitarist guy/white singer gal/white bassist guy/black drummer guy), and it blows both the new Big N Rich and the new Cowboy Troy album out of the water, combined, but so far I'm thinking the country might be more in the trappings (the lyrics, which talk about frontgal Tracey Lande being an urban cowgirl a lot, though I suspect she's really more a surbuban cowgirl when you get down to it since this is Jersey after all, plus her cowboy hat) than in the actual sounds of the music. Her voice has actually got plenty of oomph and sweetness to it, and no doubt there's a Gretchen Wilson tinge in there somewhere, but for the most part I'd say her inflections are more r&b than c&w. Though then again, since r&b inflections are something c&w needs, I'm not complaining. And there's some country in the music -- especially maybe "Hit The Floor," which might be the most realized fusion of line-dance two-step and crunk I've ever heard and defintely has actual twang in its guitar hook, and "Don't Let It Get Away," where Tracey starts out singing like Amy Lee from Evanescence for a couple seconds and then the hippity-hopping kicks in over a great and very smart and actually quite beautiful sample of Ennio Morricone's "The Good the Bad and the Ugly" (have rappers sampled Morricone at all since Bambaataa days?), which counts as country or at least western in the spaghetti sense I guess. And the album finale, "Urban Cowgirl and Reprise," I think might mention working 9 to 5 and definitely pronounces the world "cowgirl" in a vocodered way highly reminscent of sometime country star Kid Rock saying "cowboy." So there's that. But one track ("Eyes Don't Lie" I think) also sounds a lot (melody wise) like City High's "What Would You Do," one of my favorite r&b hits of the '00s. Overall, it's all (or almost all) good though. Also really like "Good Girls Gone Bad," which is very attitudinally Gretchen. Forget how "New Sheriff In Town" goes right now, but I'll spend more time with this thing:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/thexchange

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 June 2007 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

And the other new cdbaby CD I've come across, believe it or not, is by Joy of Cooking! I haven't even put on the 1972 live concert live in Berkely on the second disc yet, but the '68-72 studio recordings on disc one have been grabbing me in ways that that the couple vinyl albums I've heard (at least one of which I talked about upthread after buying it on the road a couple months ago) never have -- most likely because Joy of Cooking's relaxed but energetic Celtic Latin folk jazz boogie-woogie breakouts make more sense sinking in casually in the background the way random CD changer play allows but less "passive" (I guess) LP play never really makes possible. Or maybe they were just reigned in on the albums I've heard -- I guess that's possible too. Anyway, I've been loving the piano and harmonica etc swing of tracks like "Summer Fire" and "Flying Saucer Blues" and "Trippet"; if they're proto-Quarterflash, the Quarterflash they're most proto too is the fusion-folk experiment "Williams Avenue" on Q-flash's first album, which is one of the best things that band did. But they (or at least Terry Garthwaite) are also clearly post-Janis, maybe post-Big Brother. And I like the Dylan cover "Love is Just a 4-Letter Word" a lot, though I can't recall off hand how Dylan's version goes, and the solo jazz croon "Song in Blue" is real purty too. (I also have "Look Back" marked as a favorite -- I put a star next to its title, but no note.) And I only just begun. Plus, how many cdbaby pages start with a recommendation from a music review by Ellen Willis?:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/joyofcooking

xhuxk, Sunday, 3 June 2007 12:40 (seventeen years ago)

from the metal thread; guess I should post it here to since this is where I dissed the new Mekons album, plus sheep farmers as country too, right?:

...New Zealand's Pumice, who I think are my favorite indie rock (in the sense of being twee) band in the world right now seeing how I loved their previous album too; how come indie rock fans never mention them? They totally keep the drunken off-kilter Flying Nun post-Velvets sheep-farmer kiwi-folk prettiness alive, and "Greenock" sounds like the new Mekons album should (i.e., it sounds like the Mekons did 27 years ago), and "The Only Doosh Worth Giving" and "Onion Union" might be the two most beautiful tracks of improvisatory style noize racket I've heard this year (Dead C influence, I'm guessing, but I haven't listened to enough Dead C to know -- hence I guess they qualify for a metal thread, in some way), and then they close with a placid instrumental called "Pipi" that goes completely in the opposite direction. New album is called Pebbles; the one last year was Yeahnahvienna; I recommend both even to people who usually hate all the other music I recommend.

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xhuxk, Sunday, 3 June 2007 14:11 (seventeen years ago)

there is a long ode to him in paul muldoons horse latitudes that might be worth picking up.

Everything by Muldoon, such a great poet, is worth picking up. Along with mad-genius-roustabout Chris King, I'm working on scoring his long poem Incantata. Last year about this time we recorded Muldoon reading the whole thing from beginning to end in my apartment, but I think all he wanted to do was dig through my records.

Roy Kasten, Sunday, 3 June 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Since writing with Zevon, Muldoon has started a band, and at least judging by the little clip I saw on the Web, and his comments on there, he seems more interested in playing guitar than emphasizing his actual-poet lyrics. Didn't really grab me, but was pretty brief, so who knows. Yeah, I don't remember Willis writing about JOC, but they def had the same appeal and sensibilty, re the self-made bluecollar collegetown "post-Janis" picking-up-the-pieces early 70s point of embarkation.

dow, Sunday, 3 June 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago)

Not that they didn't actually "embark" earlier than that, and what joy it was to find EW cookin' in The New Yorker of all places, in its Daddest, endless-rumination days, but pickin' up the pieces certainly seemed like more of a priority in early 70s, so EW and JOC (esp. Terry, and continuing on the few solo LPs I heard) were reassuring to wobbly kiddos like me.

dow, Sunday, 3 June 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago)

so have Big & Rich become sad philosophers of the road and of their own excess? sonically the record has some real moments, I like the strings and they work variations on the standard hard-rock changes. what they're singing about, I have no real idea except that it sounds like the usual piety successful artists adopt round this time in their career. how much partying are they doing to sound so sincere, between hell and amazing grace? they're worried about not giving enough back, not utilizing enough black people, what? I really do approach them like I'd think about Zappa or George Clinton, a big philosophical backdrop that's self-consciously inclusive (or exclusive as in Zappa, although he championed the common man's ability to be as weird on his own terms), thus the actual musical product can seem self-indulgent, contrived, false unto itself (since the record mentions religion). Strange shit, and how do two savvy songwriters come up with something as tenth-generation as "Man in the Mirror," from the title to the song itself? So they're just accepting banality as first principle and saying that can be its own weirdness, everybody join in but let's make it all overstated and easy? I don't know, but I love the opening of "Radio."

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 3 June 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago)

No love for the new Ryan Adams?

Two(With Sheryl Crow on backing vocals) is playing on his myspace.

http://www.myspace.com/ryanadams

The rest of the record is fucking good too.

MRZBW, Monday, 4 June 2007 00:02 (seventeen years ago)

<i>Scott explained that metal fans like it because they enjoy thinking about very classic Big, Serious Things, like death, and war, and gods. It seems faintly ridiculous now but these are what people thought about all the time not so long ago, or at least Serious Men did.</i>

That's me quoting Mike Barthel paraphrasing Scott Seward in my LV Weekly column followup that gets posted today unless it gets posted tomorrow. And then after-the-fact I checked with Scott to see if he ever actually said anything like this and he said "guess i'd go along with that. like sci-fi fans, a lot of metal fans are interested in the, uh, metaphysical and good/evil realms. or stuff that is beyond the mundane/everyday at least. like 70's rune-rock fans of yore."

So. Listened to the Dale Watson, and I decided that, in the above sense:

Dale Watson = death metal

Or, anyway, Great Themes. Justice. Suicide. The Endless Struggle. Authenticity.

It actually works well, feels observed rather than pretentious. Had trouble with the deep voice at first (same trouble I have with Marty Stuart) but by the end of the album I was doing OK with it.

Is definitely on the western end of country & western.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 4 June 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago)

"Have you ever noticed that? The monsters are always such nice guys," sez one of Sam Shepard's characters, and then there's Nelson Algren's Book Of Lonesome Monsters and Frankenstein etc, but Watson needs to make his bad men scary and bad as well as drawing us into or toward degrees of empathy or sympathy (the degree of *being* drawn in *is* the experience of their power and thus our empathy re the slippery slope and crossroads and valley of decision) they're just too nice and boring on this album, though maybe I'd like others more (got the Little Darling Sessions but Edd says Dale's disowned it, so I haven't listened, though I will). So how faintly ridiculous it is to think about death and war, how faintly ridiculous is everything else, la-dee-dah.

dow, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago)

It's like way into Watergate, Greil Marcus heard Charie Rich dedicate "Feel Like Going Home" to Richard Nixon, and then sang the hell out of it, and made Marcus feel a sympathy for the Old Nick he never, ever (ever) wanted to feel---and the equally excellent Garry Wills wrote Nixon Agonistes and I'm sure somewhere Nixon's stll digging those hits, glamorous ol monster that he is (tough shit about his victims). C'mon, Dale a little ol' teenage girl like Mary Shelley did it, you can do it too!

dow, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

The Xchange MySpace page. As Xhuxk described, songs melodies and arrangements are basically r&b (and rock&b) but there're some country licks. One of the guitarists wears a cowboy hat. "Urban Cowgirl" starts with the lead singer chanting the phrase "urban cowgirl" through a vocoder. A funk song, but with harmonica, guitar picking, slides. And rapping. "Sounds like: Black Eyed Peas, Gwen Stefani, Prince, No Doubt, Kid Rock, Madonna, Missy Elliot, Lenny Kravitz, Nelly, Mariah Carey, Big + Rich, Snoop Dogg, Shakira, Sheryl Crow, Shania Twain, Lil' Kim, Coyote Ugly, Lynard Skynard, Joan Jett, Pat Benatar, The Eagles, Britney Spears, Lil' John, Janis Joplin, the CRUNK!, Aerosmith, AC DC, KISS, Eminem, Diddy, Beyonce and Destiny's Child, Michael Jackson, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Gretchen Wilson, Usher, Lisa Marie Presley, Notorious BIG, Jennifer Lopez, Kylie Minogue. Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, Joni Mitchell, Janet Jackson, Jay Z, Mary J. Blige."

On first listen they sound weaker than I want them to, though competent.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago)

apparently, Dale Watson is going to re-cut some of the Little Darling songs. He wasn't happy with that record at all, or with Koch, from what Watson told me when I talked to him last month. (Was going to use a quote or two from Watson on his relationship with Johnny Bush, but ran out of space.) I see Frank's connection to death-metal, and certainly Watson's song about the 'Bama electric chair is pretty hardcore. Live, Watson is pretty hot but the songs sort of betray him. I count two or maybe three good ones on Cradle and the rest are pretty weak, actually.

Went back one last time to listen to the June Carter Cash tribute. Genteel and nondescript; altho Grey De Lisle does OK with "Big Yellow Peaches" and I still dig Billy Bob Thornton deadpanning his way thru "Road to Kaintuck" (note: you probably won't make it because of the Injuns). Phoned-in backing, but man, Patty Loveless sings purty. What's kind of a ripoff, though, is that the tracks on this tribute echo almost exactly those on the Dualtone '05 comp Ring of Fire: The Best of June Carter Cash, plus that record features her take on A.P. Carter's "Cuban Soldier," a real good political number.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 4 June 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

don't see anything here about Toby's newest. some interesting stuff going on even though ultimately it's not appreciably better or worse than his last couple of records, frequently excellent but also maddeningly uneven (the title track and "Hit It" are two of the worst songs he's cut).

still, lots here to like and marvel over. maybe I should've been tipped off by the surprising contriteness of "Love Me If You Can," but it sounds like Toby's been listening to two of the Right's biggest boogeymen (and I know Toby's not 100% "Right" but still) - namely Bruce Springsteen ("White Rose") and Steve Earle ("Pump Jack"). "High Maintenance Woman" also reminds me explicitly of something, and it might be Springsteen but I'm not sure. As always, I'm impressed by his songcraft and effortless lyricism, but wish his grooves had a little more oil in the joints.

JoshLove, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 12:15 (seventeen years ago)

i still mantain that the best thing about the lewis duet album is that toby duet, where he manages to be sad and tired and humble but still hold his own againt the fire of the killer

pinkmoose, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 00:58 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't heard Toby's new one, but his previous one was as un-uneven as any album released last year.

Dale Watson's new one just sounded ponderous and leaden to me (after loving his previous one, which had way more bounce). So given how plenty of metal sounds ponderous and leaden as well, Frank is right.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

(Though that Toby album last year did have that one horrible pro-school-prayer/anti-choice song or whatever it was. But that was just one bad song on an album otherwise quite good from start to finish.)

(Dale's album last year had plenty of humor, too. New one is the rare example of a 25-or-whatever minute record that seems like it lasts a whole hour.)

(But I've said all this stuff before, I think.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 01:44 (seventeen years ago)

idk, the bus songs on White Trash with Money were fun I guess, but I never really had the desire to hear 'em more than once or twice (except possibly "Hell No," that one was a cut above the other two). I also thought "Note to Self" was pretty generic, and definitely "Ain't No Right Way" was idiotic. the first half of the record, on the other hand, is consistently terrific, definitely.

JoshLove, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago)

Still seems like he's peaked, album-wise, with Pull My Chain. And since then, the singles have (more gradually) gotten hit-or-miss, quality-wise. xxhux, you say "the previous one was as un-even as any album released las year," but in the next post you say,"...an album otherwise quite good from start to finish," and you seem to be talking about the same album--? Xgau in Stone likes Elizabeth Cook, Miranda Lambert, is disappointed in Blake Shelton and John Anderson (says over-reliant on "over-extended" John Rich). Dang, and xgau was the one who got me into Anderson, like 20 or more years ago. He also enjoys several new Dolly Parton reissues, to some extent, ezpecially Coat Of Many Colors, which is the best described (so the one he's most into, it seems), with "Travelling Man" (Mom steals him from Dolly), and "Before I Lose My Mind" (Hubby talks Dolly into trying the swingers' scene,like wifeswapping and other 70s pursuits, apparently). I had never heard of either of these. As Rev. Jerry Lee would say, "Mercy!"

dow, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

you say "the previous one was as un-even as any album released las year," but in the next post you say,"...an album otherwise quite good from start to finish," and you seem to be talking about the same album--?

Nope, I say UN-uneven. Double negative intended. I still think White Trash is his most playable album (and I do like the bus songs ["Hell No" is in fact is my least favorite of the three] and think "Note To Self" is fine.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

"Runnin' Block" has replay value.

I just found out that Tracy Byrd did that "Johnny Cash" song Aldean has out now a few years back--dunno when, but it's on his Greatest Hits CD which came out in '05.

mulla atari, Thursday, 7 June 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

I thought I'd call people's attention to "Goodbye Nashville, Hello Camden Town," a new two-disk pub rock anthology.

http://www.amazon.com/Goodbye-Nashville-Hello-Camden-Town/dp/B000MTOSD4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-8209677-6688418?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1181405956&sr=8-1

It's 49 songs deep, I've heard about half of it so far, and only in the background. If I can generalize, it's only intermittently rocking, more Burritos than Stones. But it's uniformly pleasant. Good chops, good tunes, fine blokes, and a chance to hear a lot of bands I'd only seen in discographies. I hope the second disk turns up the heat a little bit.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 9 June 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago)

Other people on the teenpop thread, re Miranda:

Don't think Miranda Lambert was - or quite is - in Favorite Artist category, but "Kerosene" was in Favorite Song category, and her new album is not a disappointment, even if it has no "Kerosene." (There is something missing, however; something that doesn't infuse the roles she's playing with... er, not sure what; she's got personality galore, but the personality itself seems to be a role... or I want something to shine through the roles, in the way that role players like Jagger or Astaire had a Jaggerness or Astaireness that was simply there... I don't think I know what I'm saying, actually. Maybe the Miranda-ness <i>is</i> there and it excites me but doesn't warm me. Still the best album I've heard this year.)

-- Frank Kogan, Friday, June 8, 2007 3:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

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Frank - My initial instinct after I heard the Miranda album was that it was a good album but that it lacked real standout, great tracks. Then I realized that ALL of the tracks are so good that NONE stand out and particularly great. It's a good problem to have. Agreed that nothing on there is as good as "Kerosene", but there's like 4 or 5 9/10 tracks on there, to me.

-- Greg Fanoe, Friday, June 8, 2007 3:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

It might be that Miranda has a "type" she can be heard as conforming to -- can hardly mention her without talking about, say, Gretchen Wilson to use a current example (at least not in the press -- and vice versa, don't know if I've seen anything about either of them without mention of the other) -- whereas someone like Ashlee or Dylan or Jagger or, uh, Marit Larsen, though they might have their derivatives, don't have a clear precursor or "path" they followed. So that even though Miranda does what she does really well, you get the sense that she's not the only one who could be doing it. Miranda's my #1 by some margin right now, but a more unique and personal-connection type personality would beat it pretty easily. But that album doesn't come along every year, so she could conceivably stay on top. (Conversely, R. Kelly has an album I rate pretty highly almost entirely because I can't imagine anyone else making it, even though the album itself isn't fantastic -- just very good -- overall.)

-- dabug, Friday, June 8, 2007 7:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

OK, have my people get in touch with Xhuxk. I've got this really great idea about Miranda Lambert, I like the wording, and the next idea is great too, I just want him to, like, connect the two, you know, a paragraph transition; I can't seem to avoid using the word "anyway," but I've used it three times already and need something else.

-- Frank Kogan, Friday, June 8, 2007 7:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

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Funny, I've never thought of Miranda in connection with Gretchen (whose new one is her best, by the way; hilarious song where she tells the hubby, OK, if you want someone to mother you, these are the new rules). As for the way Miranda sounds, she's like a stray-cat version of Natalie Maines (that's an incredible compliment, by the way) [um, get Xhuxk back on the phone; need a new phrase that can do the work of "by the way"]. Maybe she's one of the "Goodbye Earl" girls twisted beyond justification and self-satisfaction. But really, she's a Cops girl. (A friend of mine once described her sister's marriage as being a Cops marriage; i.e., the sort of household that the police visit on Cops to break up a domestic disturbance.) [Er, call Xhuxk again; I'm not sure about the parallelism between "marriage" and "household." What? He says it's OK? Like ice cream and cabbage?]) I can picture Miranda's P.I. dad telling stories of the messes his clients get into while teenage Miranda doubles over in laughter.

-- Frank Kogan, Friday, June 8, 2007 7:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND MIRANDA LAMBERT: She'll bite your fat neck. George Smith envisages the epitome of the Miranda Lambert interview.

-- Frank Kogan, Friday, June 8, 2007 8:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

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Didn't know anything about Miranda's background, actually, and haven't listened to her all that much (had the IKerosene album, which I liked but not as much as the new one, since late 2006 and just bought her new one at a used CD store)l. I liked the characters she was creating in the songs in the new one, but jeeeeez those Dick Destiny highlights are rough. (Yeehaw? Admittedly re: Gretchen, I guess.) I might have assumed she grew up in a small town before going off to Nashville (plenty of teenpoppers do this too), but other than that she's not exactly wearing her day-to-day "rough and tumble" life on her sleeve. I mean, the first coupla tracks are like (great) novelty tunes! ("COPS girl," weirdly enough, doesn't nec. suggest to me a real person at all -- even though it's a reality show.)

-- dabug, Saturday, June 9, 2007 1:20 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Link

xhuxk, Saturday, 9 June 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago)

xgau's review of the new Miranda album from the latest RS (if anyone's interested):

Garth Brooks fan turned Nashville Star discovery Lambert stormed the country charts with the incendiary "Kerosene" in 2005. Now she tops herself on what will likely remain the country album of the year. Just twenty-three, Lambert plays the rebel girl, revving up the mood of the Dixie Chicks' "Goodbye Earl" and Gretchen Wilson's "Redneck Woman." On the lead track, she waits on an abusive boyfriend with her shotgun; on the title track, she leaves her pistol in the car and wades into the bar barehanded. Lambert does have a thoughtful side, but the violent moments define a little lady who also cites the Rolling Stones' "Under My Thumb" and rocks a Patty Griffin cover. Smoking.

ROBERT CHRISTGAU

(Posted: May 30, 2007)

JN$OT, Saturday, 9 June 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago)

(In my Miranda comments I was riffing off the Billboard day-in-the-life profile of Kara DioGuardi where someone from "the Ashlee Simpson camp" phones Kara and says Ashlee wants her help in writing a transition into a chorus.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 10 June 2007 02:39 (seventeen years ago)

Gave the new Mary Gauthier a spin in the background while doing some work. On most of the album she mutes the growling abyss in her throat that I'd found so absurd on her last album. And you know what? I miss it. Or miss something. Or maybe there are just fewer good songs. However, the opening track, "Snakebit," gets her balance right. A crawling blues, good growl, slow burn, exhaust funes. A stereotype just as much as Amy Winehouse is a stereotype - you know, the slurred rack of darkness. But not one I can't respond to.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 10 June 2007 02:47 (seventeen years ago)

TOBY KEITH -- First impression of his new one, surprise surprise, is I am loving the rockers (the truly rock'n'rolling almost Jerry Lee style boogie woogied "Big Dog Daddy," heavily powerchorded Cougar circa Uh Huh style eight-ball anthem "Hit It," and of course "High Maintenance Woman" -- maybe "Get My Drink On" and "Pump Jack" too but I'm not positive about those since the thing has been playing in the background since yesterday and I haven't been paying 100 percent attention all the time so it's possible they're non-rockers for all I know but I think they're not) and reacting in a comparatively "meh" manner so far to slower stuff like "Walk It Off" and "Wouldn't Wanna Be Ya" and "Love Me If You Can," the latter of which is apparently the token politically incorrect chain-puller. (He sometimes thinks war is necessary but dreams of peace on earth and he gives his money to the homeless but feels every able-bodied man should work, doncha know.) "Burnin' Moonlight" seems pretty good, though. And "White Rose," a eulogy to a long-gone gas station that was once the one horse in a one horse town, is the one ballady track that I absolutely love already. Some others will kick in soon, I'm sure, given Toby's previous track record.

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago)

MORE THOUGHTS ON THE EXCHANGE WHO FRANK UNDERRATES BY THE WAY: (1) Frank will deny this, but there is audibly at least a little bit of (I'm guessing unintentional, but who knows?) Teena Marie to some of Tracey Lande's vocal inflections in "That's How We Roll," "Eyes Don't Lie," and "Dontcha Go." (2) Teena was not only a much better singer; she was also a much much better rapper, but that's okay. (3) The band's secret influence, unacknowledged on their myspace as far as I can tell, and maybe entirely unconscious, seems to be early '90s Europop -- and oddly, I hear this more when one of the guys (Ernie Davis, I think) is rapping than when Tracey is. The duet sound of "Run Away" is somewhere between Roxette/Colorhaus/One 2 One and OMC ("On The Run" I think) to my ears, and Ernie's vocal in "Dontcha Go" reminds me of Bob Rosenberg in Will To Power. This may have more to do with trying to do r&b/dance stuff and not getting it right, but it is very cool, and in the best cuts they do it quite gracefully. There's another track (one of the last couple on the record, I didn't write down which one) that goes into a melody that sounds a lot like Real McCoy's '90s Euro version of Redbone's "Come And Get Your Love." And interestingly, the two cuts I might well like least ("New Sheriff In Town" and the way too heavyhanded "Hip Hop Country Rock" title track) are two of the ones where the band seems to try hardest to play up their nearly nonexistent country influence. But they have a good chance of making my Nashville Scene top ten at the end of the year regardless --they're country 'cause they say they are (and as I said above, they do have country moments, even if most of them seem to hark back to country stars like Kid Rock and Ennio Morricone.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 14:14 (seventeen years ago)

(Er, Will To Power were from Florida, Colorhaus from Australia, OMC from New Zealand, One 2 One from Canada I think. But they all sounded Euro.)

Speaking of sounding Euro, has anybody listened to this supposed pyschobilly trio Tiger Army on Hellcat, who have a stand-up bass player and are apparently topping the charts on KROQ in L.A. right now? I'm actually liking them okay, but damned if I can tell where the "billy" is in their sound. There's definitely some Misfits in there, but as K.Sanneh (who called them psychobilly himself) pointed out in the Times this week (this is the Euro part), "Spring Forward" sounds a lot more like New Order. (Lalena asked if it was the Smiths; same difference.) And "Forever Fades Away" is the Cure via A Flock of Seagulls or something. So: '80s haircut music. But not even the Stray Cats kind.

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

MORE THOUGHTS ON JOY OF COOKING -- They really stretch out on the live disc on that reissue I spoke of above, playing up their Latin percussion influence way more than on any of the studio recordings I've heard. "Dancing Couple" is basically a straight salsa track. At the beginning of "Laugh Don't Lie", which is nine minutes long, they could basically be the Incredible Bongo Band (honestly, some hip-hop song should sample those beats before somebody else does), and it eventually turns into Santana. "Brownsville/Mockingbird," even longer at 11 minutes, is blues-structured piano jazz with a major Bo Diddley element (if the billy goat don't float Bo's gonna buy you a mockingird or however it goes.) Otherwise, the folkie vocals know how to mesh really well, though there are moments (in "Humpty Dumpty" for one) where the hippie looseness gets a bit too loose, and almost falls apart. Also, back on the studio disc, I want to mention "How Deep The Dark," maybe the most avant-jazz cut here, but with a real melody to it. And all in all, I think I'm understanding more what Christgau and Willis loved about this band. I'm not sure it ever came across on their regular LPs, but I could be wrong.

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, there's at least bit of a little wide-open spaces gothic western feel to "Pain" on that Tiger Army album. I like this! Dark but not dragged down. And Nick 13's voice is easier to take that Danzig's ever was. ("Hotprowl" is straight hey-hey-hey-shout Misfits, though, and I'm sure it's not the only track like that here. And though I never cared about the Misfits, I have cared about blatantly Misfits-inspired hey-hey-hey bands like Naked Raygun before.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

Or maybe I mean woaaagh-woaaagh-wooagh bands.

And both "Big Dog Daddy" and "Hit It" are more '70s Southern rock than the Jerry Lee/Cougar comparisons above imply, I suppose. Also, "Hit It" blatantly quotes "Knock On Wood." And "Big Dog Daddy" turns into a great band workout, though I'm not especially interested in how big Toby's dog is (it is, though, another in the line of his boisterous boasts about size and mastery. Very hip-hop of him, really.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago)

The Xchange...have a good chance of making my Nashville Scene top ten

More like "an outside chance" (there's lots of competition already, and lots more coming, I just realized), but I still do like them.

Also, I spelled their name wrong in the last post -- They're filed under "X", not "Ex."

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

Toby's "Get Your Drink On" sounds a lot like "Indian Outlaw" by Tim McGraw.

Toby's "White Rose" (written by Fred Eaglesmith, who Robert Christgau always said I should listen to but I never got around to it, and with a dark melody that makes me think "minor key" though musicologists might argue that that makes me an imbecile) sounds alot like "City Of New Orleans" by Arlo Guthrie.

New album seems to be merely good Toby, whereas his previous album was great Toby. Great Toby being jazzier than the new one even attempts. But good Toby still being pretty darn good.

Morrisey affectations over rote pop-punk hopscotch in "Afterworld" and emo leanings in "Where The Moss Slowly Grows" are not marks in Tiger Army's favor.

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago)

And Toby's "Pump Jack" is even more Uh-Huh Cougar than "Hit It" is! Guitar sounds very "Authority Song." It pumps! Half songwriting credit to Bobby Pinson, whose albums always sound like demo tapes to me, but that doesn't mean the he can't write words.

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago)

Toby's "White Rose" (written by Fred Eaglesmith, who Robert Christgau always said I should listen to but I never got around to it, and with a dark melody that makes me think "minor key" though musicologists might argue that that makes me an imbecile) sounds alot like "City Of New Orleans" by Arlo Guthrie.

the first song that came to my mind when i heard that one was (kinda appropriately!) billy joel's "the great suburban showdown," which shares one small bit of melody -- the part where i think toby's singing "now there's plywood for glass" -- and is an entirely different kind of suburban lament. (actually i guess toby's/fred's is more a rural lament.)

as for the tonality, the chorus of "white rose" centers on a B minor, whereas the verse lands on a D major. i'm not smart enough to know what key that makes the song, but the chorus certainly acts like it's in a minor key, and the verses go through a minor VI and a minor III on their way from I to IV, so make of that what you will. sounds dark to me too.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 10 June 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

Interestingly, the Miranda Lambert thing on my blog has a steady stream of readers from Google searches, usually off people looking for some iteration of -- miranda lambert tattoo. People want to know about it. Google Analytics says they all read it to the end. Since comments are moderated, I'm spared the imprecations from wounded teenagers and twentysomethings.

I'm telling ya, if you're a delver of web analytics, it'll crush your faith in humanity overnight.

Watched "Shut Up & Sing" a couple times last week and liked it. Not quite enough to be a constant fan of Dixie Chicks music. However, with it on Pay-Per-View and far enough removed from the journalistic cant that surrounded them, it was a good watch. I thought it was neat the way everything was kept in indicating they didn't know how bad the tidal wave was going to get even as it was beginning to sweep over them. The pr person blowing her stack and having a meltdown was amusing, too.

Other points in the movie's favor: It kept framing discussions and interpretations by pop music journalists out of the loop, except for two brief ones, and both of the people came off looking crabbed and vile. Made me want to see the act live.

Gorge, Sunday, 10 June 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago)

Metal threaders on Tiger Army below (Spanish song is "Hechizo De Amor," a laid-back sort of border desert croon. I'm liking "Ghosts Of Memory" alright, too; another moody slice of vibrato gothabilly):

That Tiger Army disc is like a perfect amalgamation of everything a Southern California mall-punk kid would like - a little punk, a little rockabilly, some overt Cure and solo-Morrissey ripoffs, and even a song in Spanish for the Mexicans in the crowd. It's a good disc.
-- unperson, Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

I have one of the earlier Tiger Army CDs, and it sounds pretty -Billy to me. That may have changed, though.
-- Jeff Treppel, Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:32 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago)

speaking of gothic western etc., the first three tracks on Ananda Shankar and his Music are stolid, but the rest are strong post-Bollywood/Morricone (not as over-the-top)romantic bluescapes, from '75, reissued with typically good Fallout sound.

dow, Sunday, 10 June 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not sure why I said Frank underrates the Xchange; he'd merely said they were weaker than he wishes they were. They're probably weaker than I wish they were, too, which doesn't necessarily mean they're weak per se'. Just wanted to clear that up.

Tiger Army's "Forever Fades Away" actually starts out morose gothabilly, then turns into A Flock of Seagulls, which it's possible nobody has ever done before. And the other gothabilly tracks I mentioned above, "Ghosts of Memory" and "Pain," actually have plenty of hop to their rhythm; their moodiness doesn't detract from their energy. And "As The Cold Rain Falls" may well the cut that Kelefa compared to New Order; it certainly sounds like New Order to me. Anyway, I like these guys' lack of boundaries, and fearlessness about sounding cheesy, by which I mean fearlessness about beauty and the beat. Now I'm wondering to what extent their new album is a leap forward -- I never spent more than minutes with their earlier records, but those struck me as forgettable. Their PR folks insist the new one will be their breakthrough; the summer will tell.

xhuxk, Sunday, 10 June 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago)

TOBY KEITH -- I am loving the rockers ("Big Dog Daddy," "Hit It," "Get My Drink On" and "Pump Jack" )but reacting in a comparatively "meh" manner so far to slower stuff like "Wouldn't Wanna Be Ya"

That was abridged, but I just wanted to say that I think "Wouldn't Wanna Be Ya" is now my favorite of these four. See, I told you slow ones would sink in.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 12:05 (seventeen years ago)

oops, five not four, duh.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 12:06 (seventeen years ago)

And I'm liking all four of those rockers (and/or semi-rockers) more than I'm loving them.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

So I was listening to and pondering the new Big N Rich album, wondering what explanation might be possible for it sounding even worse to me the more I play it, not to mention what explanation might be possible for so great a group making so lousy an album, when the trusty old "cocaine theory" came to mind. Shrugged it off (what they hell do I know about their personal lives?), until I heard Big Kenny say the word himself in the man-in-the-mirror song, "When The Devil Gets The Best Of Me." So there you go, maybe. Or maybe the reason that (as Lalena says) they sure don't sound like they're having much fun anymore is that now this is a job, where, a couple albums ago, it was just a hobby -- Christgau always used to talk about how impending professionalism could kill creative musicians' spirit, and I've rarely bought that, but these are tough times for the profession, and I work at a trade magazine now, and somehow with this guys it seems like it might ring true, for once--and not just because Big Kenny looks like the singer from Nickelback in one of the inner sleeve photos. Now I'm wondering whether their great albums are just done, forever (it's happened to other acts before, after all), or whether this is just a temporary lull. For whatever it's worth, I decided that "Lost in the Moment" (which has at least a smidgen of r&b in it, though probably a lot more Lonestar in it) and "Please Man" (the Wyclef Jean collab, which is just too ridiculous to hate) are not absolutely awful, and I actually do like "Radio," the new-wavey powerpop of which would indeed sound okay on the radio (as for its music-without-prejudice intro, I like the music of it and still agree with the sentiment of it but am tired of the shtick, which I don't really buy anymore.) The Steve Tyler-style shriek at the start of "Loud" is okay, too, though from there the track is as much as decent riff with no song attached as anything by the Fucking Champs. And the cocaine in the mirror song gave me chills for a second, not that I'll want to hear it again. But besides fleeting moments where their harmonies click, the rest is just plain dull. And very sad.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago)

speaking of the new Big & Rich, I think it's a confounding record--some reviews I've read talk about the "inept" sequencing, but obviously they wanted it this way, so they could earn their good times. in interviews I've heard John Rich say that "we're exactly where we want to be, right now" and reference a meeting with, er, Eddy Arnold who told them to do their own thing and so forth. I'm always interested when someone takes AOR or whatever their middle-of-the-road things are, and makes that first principle of inclusion. they do accomplish some weird sort of bland experimentalism that is unlike anything I've ever heard; the strings obviously equal Class; there are a few moments where you just have to wonder what they were thinking, like the sickening yaw of the strings on "Eternity," and wonder if they're just playing at being two ordinary guys with access to a Party Bus that makes them all unhappy despite the presumably free-flowing booze, women and party favors on the bus. the devolved reggae of "Please Man" is as annoying as any devolved reggae, the banjo in that song is their idea of a joke, and so on. and I find their harmonies sort of annoying, too, the folkie quaver of the mix of their voices is just plain strange the more you listen to it and think about it, so I suppose they think they're in some tradition of country duos like the Louvins? so yeah, it could well be blow that got 'em here but I think they just crave respectability like everyone else, I don't totally knock that impulse because obviously I share it myself. But it should make for something more ingenious than "Radio" which is a song about how you should listen to this song. They're Big & Rich and you're not--you can't afford this graphic designer we got but that's cool, we're all in it together.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

If the Xchange are stronger than I think they are, then I am underrating them. I hope that clears it up.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 02:49 (seventeen years ago)

Had the new Richard Thompson on in the background, had the impression that the songwriting is catchier than usual (not sure what I'm counting here as usual since I don't think I've heard a full LP of his in years) and that his voice is manly and fine, and that these virtues probably will not overcome the Melinda Doolittle effect he always ends up having on me, even on Shoot Out The Lights - which is to say yes, this is done expertly, there's a lot here, but I end up not caring. (This was not the effect that Unhalfbricking had on me, however.)

Don will surely have smarter comments than I do.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 02:54 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, a little deft CTRL-F action and I see there has been some Richard Thompson commentary already. Seems as if Xhuxk is as clueless as I about the man's recent work - though I did hear Thompson give a concert here in Denver about seven years ago; it was rousing, veered towards Velvet Underground stomp, it was loud, at age 46 I was one of the youngest people in the audience, and actually it ended up a bit more grating than inspiring but I definitely did not say that to Naomi, whom I went with and who adores Thompson. Also come to think of it Naomi must have played one of his recent albs for me around then, though if she did it obviously left little impression.

(Notice the trenchant musical analysis in the previous paragraph.)

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 03:03 (seventeen years ago)

How'd we get back to heeyum? Although reading about Big & Rich first reminds me of course of what I wrote about them in Nash Scene comments, the year of their debut album (seems so long ago) archived at thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com: how their sanctimony finally went over the top, with walking around in the street last night, and they met a man who said he was Jesus and that was alright, and now they meet a boy who wants to go meet Jesus, and that's alright, cos they met him last night and that was alright,in fact they sound like they might want to lead the way, except they've got miles to go and contracts to keep, and 'member what I wrote about Big K's solo album, how he's The Confidence Man, but a good one, so they at least sound like they've hypnotized themselves with their harmonic fixations, and they're like the Two Wisemen (Three counting the boy they're now with)in Richard and Linda Thompson's Sufi robes, spinning and singing "Loose my mind and dance forever, lose my mind and dance for-ever,turn my wor-ld, a-round," execept in their own copyrighted words of course). Meanwhile, the Raincoats send "Monk Chant" round the mountain, and 5.6.7.8's send "Cuckoo" off it, in a Japanese Sandcowgirl way of knowledge (get it, mountain, know-ledge), and there's other countryonica heritage of the Monks I didn't have room for in this week's Voice, where also Edd and Porter Wagoner take a little trip (point ov departure)

dow, Thursday, 14 June 2007 06:39 (seventeen years ago)

I like the new Richard Thompson well enough, he always plays good electric guitar. I've rarely been interested in anything he's had to say since, oh, Shoot Out the Lights or his great collab with French, Frith, Kaiser in the late '80s. In fact I will probably say this to Thompson if and when we meet on the ledge--his first solo record Henry the Human Fly remains in my book the one really great Thompson effort, greater even than I Want to See the Bright Lights or Hokey Pokey. That one, he sounded actually young and not especially sure about what that old shit was gonna be about, except that some people weren't going to come out OK. Maybe "Wall of Death" is as great a song as "Nobody's Wedding" or "Old Changing Way," and certainly Linda Thompson had a great voice and losing her must've been tough--but those early songs have an unforced verve most of his later stuff totally lacks, unless you're just interested in Mitchell Froom zoom effects.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:14 (seventeen years ago)

Bob Lefsetz discovers current country:

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2007/06/07/new-country/

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2007/06/12/more-country/

xhuxk, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago)

interesting comments on the Doobie Brothers and how Joe Walsh gave the Eagles iconic status. He's right. Not sure why anyone would actually want to worry over Jeff Tweedy's lyrics, though.

So this Gretchen Peters project Burnt Toast and Offerings (coulda called it Burnt Offerings and Toast if you ask me) is pretty good singer-songwriterdom just like in the olden days. She has had some trouble with men, cities and lousy beach-bum waitress jobs, so she doesn't like summer. She doesn't seem to deserve it but what do I know? She photographs well from the side she chooses to show--she looks pretty good full-face too as in the spread in the middle. Some really fine string writing and lots of cool subtle things like her voice echoing on "Breakfast at Our House." The pennywhistle in "This Town" means that the town she idealizes is where, in Ireland? She's already gone to London in one song, "England Blues," which starts off with a Big Sid Catlett swingin' rockanashville beat, pretty good actually. Her voice seems a little calculated and sometimes annoying, arch, but that's part of the whole thing she's doing. Self-pity is apparent, sometimes, like when she sings about how "he let her music go unheard." Some pretty good ideas, all round, a few relatively wordless moments she needs more of, but "The Lady of the House" has some fancy chords in the middle that work fine. What's always struck me is how overdramatized these singer-songwriter records can be, and how the level of everyday observation could be higher, but of course it's all a metaphor for her breakup or whatever happened to her. Classy stuff right down to the George Harrisonisms of the strings on track 12. I often think that some talented singer-songwriter like Gretchen (and why didn't she change the lyrics in her cover of "One for My Baby" from "I'm a poet" to "I'm a well-compensated songwriter," I don't know) should make a record about how music itself has driven her and her baby apart, so she makes one last record and quits totally, at least for a while. So, you know, I like this pretty well and think Gretchen would be a good lunch date--observant, gently or wryly humorous, and I bet she doesn't eat that much either.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago)

Terri Clark's My Next Life. Was just nattering on above about Gretchen Peters' new 'un (friend on hearing Gretchen: "the best Jackie DeShannon record I've heard in a while!"), and on Terri's, Gretchen co-writes one called "Nashville Girls" featuring Reba, Sara Evans, Martina McBride). That's a harem, but the song itself really disappointed me. "June Carter kept Johnny in line--top that, Madonna!" is a representative line. Oh well. Terri co-writes 3, the ubiquitous Rivers Rutherford one. It's not as arty, and maybe not as good, as the Peters record, which might be a function of the songwriting, which strikes me as something like second-pass stuff. "Never Say No" seems the best song and "Tough with Me" a close second--clever one about how Terri's guy comes home after bustin' balls all day on the job and Terri comforts him by telling him "Let your troubled mind go free." A nice little section of power chords asserts her sexuality: you're off work, baby, so let's fuck all night. On "Dirty Girl" it's obvious Terri knows her way around a socket set, and could even help you replace your water pump on a hot day side of the road. "Look What You've Done to Me" is sorta arty, double-tracked vocal, folk-rockin' guitar, and a "Desire" da-da-da-boom-da-da rhythm. And the title track, which promised what I thought was gonna be a concept record about how she's single and lovin' it (halfway gets there), sets you up to think she's going to change her ways, never smoke, perhaps never date musicians, but then it's really about how she's just gonna enjoy life right now. Pretty good, actually. I like the ache in her voice, she sounds tough, but I think the material just might defeat her in some way, although she's enough of a singer that "Never Say No" works for me because there's some emotion in her vocal that's not totally controlled and which overwhelms the competent but rather puny song that David Frasier and Craig Wiseman have cooked up for her. Gretchen might be artier but the material is really better--her own--and Peters' production is also arty but I think it beats the rather standard Nashville-isms of My Next Life.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

Let's see, did Gretchen write my fave Gretchen Wilson song, about racing chariots in Heaven with Granpaw? I know she's written other notables, I'll have to refresh my memory on Allmusic. Oh boy, Terri's really had some kind of probs with material in the last several years, some career anxiety, like when she said on her site she was postponing her honeymoon (or was it her wedding?) to be on this blah CMT duets "special," cos it was important for her career. This one was a long time coming, good by somebody else's standards, pretty uneven by hers,but def has its moments:
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0550,allred,70886,22.html

dow, Friday, 15 June 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

Los Angeles Times Calendar tried to hop the Big & Rich train today. Boy, Big & Rich, they're not like old country and they're coming to our city! Their first album was the best seller but this one debuted at #1. Mandatory knee-jerk mentions of Wyclef, how they like melody (and everybody in the genre doesn't?!) rebellion, Gretchen Wilson, Cowboy Troy (not by name) and midgets.

Prescription of stupid pills needed to get anything out of it. No link because I don't do linkage to Calendar, it being the worst section of the newspaper.

Gorge, Friday, 15 June 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago)

Didn't Terri Clark used to write more of her own material? Or did I just imagine that? Press release for the new one trumpets that she cowrote three of the songs, like that was some great achievement instead of a step back (?). But maybe it was just one album in particular that I'm remembering that was mostly her?

The Big & Rich piece in the L.A. Times was written by Holly Gleason, who is getting back into freelancing and has been doing a number of the Times' country pieces lately. I'm guessing they won't let her do the inevitable forthcoming Kenny piece.

Willman, Saturday, 16 June 2007 05:10 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, Holly exists in that grey area netherworld between "publicist" and "journalist." Word is she's doing more for the country magazines as well lately.

Listened to the new CD reissue of John Anderson's quite-possibly-best-album-ever John Anderson 2 (on American Beat Records) in the rentacar on the way to my daughter's high school graduation in Bethlehem, PA, the other day, and it totally holds up -- like, eight great songs out of ten (the other two, "I Love You a Thousand Ways" and "The Same Old Girl," aren't too shabby either.) I'm partial to the more rambuntious stuff like "I'm Just An Old Chunk of Coal" (writen by Billie Joe Shaver) and "Chicken Truck," of course, but the song that really blew me away, listening to it for the first time in a few years, was "July The 12th, 1939," about a teenage farmboy accused of rape of a girl whose family has more money than his. I remembered the story, but what I'd forgotten (if I'd ever noticed before) was the slow, repetitiously building drone of the music, which I wonder if Frank would compare to the Velvet Underground -- it goes back to Dylan, and to old folk music I'm sure. Anyway, what a chilling song.

posted this on the metal thread earlier, though I just realized they're more country than this lets on:

HAWK - Stonesy and radio-ready (especially in "Get Back Home," both lycially and soncially a great car song about listening to Exile, Revolver, and Back in Black while driving all night back to Oklahoma) Illinois cdbaby hard rock, with riffs blatantly and efficiently swiped from AC/DC (in "How You Feel") and Tom Petty ("Not Get Down," possibly a better use of guitars from "Free Fallin'" than "Free Fallin'" itself), and their cdbaby profile suggests a self-knowledge about all those influences. "Janey" is a good jangling hard pop track; "(Tao) The Way" the eight-minute long ethereal closer to help you decompress at the end:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/hawkrock

xhuxk, Saturday, 16 June 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, I was wrong, Hawk's "Not Get Down" is definitely not as good a song as "Free Fallin'." But it's still cool that it steals the riff. (And it's better than the cover of Petty's "Listen To Her Heart" on the new Pietasters album, if not the cover of Petty's "I Need To Know" on the new Poison album.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 16 June 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, Holly exists in that grey area netherworld between "publicist" and "journalist."

The LA Times Calender section's country piece on Miranda Lambert was also full of cant and beat-to-death repeated wisdoms. Offhand, I don't recall who wrote it and the hardcopy went out in the paper pile a couple weeks ago. I'd like them to do more if only to furnish material for rewrite.

E-mail of the week:

Dick,

My name is Jessica and I am interested in knowing your
sources regarding Ms. Lambert's quotes. Also, her back
ground information. Is this article written to be a
serious insight to Lambert, or is it written as a
sarcastic parody?

Gorge, Saturday, 16 June 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago)

more from metal thread:

Actually, though Hawk do have moments of alt-country vagueness ("In You," especially, but even the less-than-assertive vocals of their good hard pop song "Jamey" and their Petty rip "Not Get Down"), more often (especially in "Suzie China" and "Take My Love") they sound more like the Black Crowes. But I don't think the Black Crowes ever made an album as good as Rock'n'Roll. Next to "Get Back Home," best track is probably "Rock Star Thing," built on a more propulsive Bon-era AC/DC rip than "How You Feel" (that one turns out to be as much Stones as AC/DC riffwise, under whiney singing that sounds like Dinosaur Jr in Neil Young mode.) Also "Rock Star Thing" says they're trying to make Angus proud and then they're going to California because there's a girl waiting there with flowers in her hair. Riff in "So Rock N Roll" comes from "Beast of Burden" but then the music gets way too slow and the compliments they're giving some girl get way too pat; sometimes they really could afford to be more pretentious. But just as often they're just unpretentious enough.

xhuxk, Sunday, 17 June 2007 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

"July the 12th, 1939" definitely the early Anderson standout, and if I didn't write Xhuxk a letter about it sometime in the '90s I should have. Written by Norro Wilson, who I guess has written and produced scads of records, and you guys probably know way more about him than I do.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 18 June 2007 04:14 (seventeen years ago)

Though the way I remember it (can't find my copy, could well have gotten lost in various moves) the kid is accused of a rape that was <i>committed</i> by another kid whose family has money. Or maybe it was left ambiguous.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 18 June 2007 04:17 (seventeen years ago)

Back to my AI comparisons. Terri Clark is the Katharine McPhee of country: she sings intelligently and in good voice, doesn't oversing but doesn't underplay, solid arrangements, and there's always something missing. (But I've only heard her recent work.)

Frank Kogan, Monday, 18 June 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago)

Wrote this on my MySpace yesterday:

Jack Ingram "Don't Want To Get Hurt": I had Ingram's alb playing in the background while I washed dishes. Pleasant Cougarish quasi-country, not sure if it would stick - then this track comes along, a slow stomp, fingernails dragging through the gravel. Song holds to that for a relentless minute, Ingram's voice a husk, suppressing the melodiousness of the melody. Then bright chiming guitars enter, and we're in a kind of emo-pop country. Very nice; pretty and sad, though doesn't live up to the low-scraping beginning.

(Thus far I'm so-what about him overall, however.)

Frank Kogan, Monday, 18 June 2007 04:25 (seventeen years ago)

So not hating the new Little Texas album, even the annoying possibly-racist pro-Lonestarstate song, "Texas 101," which at least acknowledges that Texas includes both the Dixie Chicks AND George W. Bush. The tunes are sub-Mellencamp but that's okay, good enough lyrics, this singer is better than their last singer, they're not Raskalll Flatttts, I vote "okay."

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 18 June 2007 04:30 (seventeen years ago)

I've got both some Ingram comments and some Little Texas comments way upthread, though nothing on that particular Ingram song, or that particular Little Texas album--assuming it is The Missing Years, which I assume it is -- That's the one that's been on the chart recently, or its title track has at least. When I picked it up off the free table several months ago I guess I assumed -- from its title and because the indie label its on also compiled an album of live tracks -- that it was old outtakes. Is it not? Apparently the band's back together again; they get mentioned in a roundup of country-bands-on-the-charts that runs in the magazine I work for this week. As do some of the bands that Bob Lefsetz raves about in his latest country dispatch:

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2007/06/16/b-level-country/

xhuxk, Monday, 18 June 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago)

Norro Wilson did some stuff under his own name in the early '60s, including apparently some covers of John D. Loudermilk songs. Charlie Rich did "July 12, 1939" on one of his Epic LPs--The Fabulous. Great version.

Amy Cook's The Sky Observers Guide on an Austin label--her own?--called Root House. I could only get thru about half of this, but she does some roots-rockin' powerpop moves, a few nice tricky guitar moments, on "The Answer" and some of the rest of it I heard is atmospheric and pretty, so not bad, but her voice makes me weary, although she might really be weary herself. So maybe I'll listen to the second half and see if either one of us perks up.

Saw where Elizabeth Cook's Balls recently entered the Billboard country chart, it's somewhere down there with Sara Evans' last one.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 18 June 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago)

"The Missing Years" is a new studio album that takes its title from one of its better songs.

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 18 June 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago)

In reverse order, til I fall over: speaking of a Texas song that W. and the Chicks might both get into, I thought about that re Jerry Jeff's "Keep Texas Beautiful,"("keep it free"), one of his saddest and most beautifullest ever: http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid:52232 No, it's not can't-we-all-just-get-along, he doesn't do that. Another poetic curmudgeon (more poetic, more dourtoned, both most of all via guitar) is Richard Thompson, that old son of a cop (speaking of Miranda saying she gets songwriting ideas from her parents' private eye files; we'll see how far she takes it, like writing about what she found in your wallet, a la RT) Doesn't always work, but the lifers do tend to have dry spells. Frank, you say you've only heard Terri's recent; try Pain To Kill and Greatest Hits, maybe/prob the latter first. But I always have to get used to her again, like with ska. Yeah, you did write some letters about that song, and about Norro, and I think you commented on the song in that Voice you did of the last album he did before the current one, long ago (said his voice was almost too beautiful, "too rich and chewy" for your taste). Edd's take on Porter Wagoner, upthread and in last week's Voice, reminds me that, back in the early 70s, PW made Creem's Androgyny Hall Of Fame: with his pop surreal songs, like Edd describes, and his glitter cowboy suits, his sharp, tanned and/or pancaked features (on syndicated TV show, anyway), and plush blond pompadour. Surely some Drag King Porter must have appeared with (TV co-host) Queen Dolly, on some galactic hayride or two?Keep Texas Beautiful!

dow, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 05:05 (seventeen years ago)

The Frank review I mention was of John Anderson's "last album he did before the current one," not Norro's (how was Norro as a performer, Edd?)

dow, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 05:10 (seventeen years ago)

I'm wondering what folks here think of Emerson Drive--since they had the number 1 single last week (now #2) with that song about the guy about to jump off a bridge until a homeless man emerges from a box & tells some stories about The War & childbirth. On the 2006 thread someone here nominated "Coutrified" for worst album of the year. Are they really that bad? I could be persuaded that this is Country's version of Nickelback.

mulla atari, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 03:40 (seventeen years ago)

"Countrified"

mulla atari, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 03:41 (seventeen years ago)

i did, they are unlistenable.

pinkmoose, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

<i>No love for the new Ryan Adams?</i>

Listening to "Halloween Head," and it's a pleasing poppy almost-emo angst thing where he's disparaging or celebrating his own compulsive mental processes, and he yells "guitar solo" and it's actually funny (though not nearly as funny as when Dick Valentine did it on the first Electric Six album). And he's kinda square and clumsily dorky in the way that he's all enthusiastically emphatic in his delivery, which is rather endearing, even if <i>he's</i> not aware of the squareness. Problem is that not only is his clumsiness endearing, it's also clumsy, and brings down what could have been a great little single. Might make a good Tom Petty song.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago)

Speculative purchase of Big & Rich at BestBuy. Comes with DVD advertised as "uninhibited all-access, entirely true story of how Big y Rich are taking over country music." No exclamation.

First tune made me think of a Don Henley solo album. Title track is prob'ly the one I like best, so far. Half the appeal is in the production. "Radio" is so-so, the intro to it is better. But don't they already have an "intro song" in "Coming to Your City"?

"You Never Stop Loving Somebody" sounds like it has Petty's Heartbreakers as the backing band, copping the descending riff off some TP tune. Fine with me because you can never get enough big B3 Hammond and Vox-y guitars.

Two points: (1) I'd been made to think they were a lot funnier than they are here; and (2) for guys who talk about liking their music turned up loud so much, they sure could stand to put more thump into the songs on this thing that allege to fit the bill.

No use for a bluegrass version of "You Shook Me" and I'd disbelieve anyone who says they do. I like "Please Man" lots more than "Loud" even with Wyclef Jean and I no more believe he composed the lap steel and country stuff than he could fly to the moon. Song aches for someone to digitally edit out his break in the middle.

Gorge, Thursday, 21 June 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

Bon Jovi's Lost Highway initially givin' me the impression I don't like it as much as the Big & Rich LP. Maybe because I like TP & the Heartbreakers a whole lot and this album wouldn't exist without a wholesale cop of the style. It's a game of micron differences between great and just workman-like but those microns add up and BJ is just a bit short on first listen.

"Everybody's Broken" and the title track are the closest it comes to getting it just right. Jon is now phrasing and yelping like TP and Richie's traded in the Marshall stacks for Vox Top Boosts, AC-30s and Matchless amps. One for old time's sake is done on "We Got it Going On" when Sambora breaks out the talk box.

"Till We Ain't Strangers Anymore" rips some of Henley's "Heart of the Matter" (what is it with the Don Henley rips today!?) to set its stage. And Don Henley wouldn't write lyrics like 're in this one. Neither would TP. Too trite even for people who love trite.

Doesn't bring the rock as much as it ought. (Too my ears, a lot of this genre stuff doesn't even when it's insisting it does, so maybe it's me.) If you like were Bon Jovi's been going, you might like this, though. It's pleasant.

"I Love This Town (Say Hey!)" -- gosh, Jon, some don't though, though. Song title really telegraphs it.

Gorge, Thursday, 21 June 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago)

Leann Rimes shows up to duet with Jon BJ for "Till We Ain't Strangers" which is where the autotune shows up on J's voice. Which would probably have to be done for anyone dueting with LR.

And "Last Night" is the Henley rip. I was looking at the computer read out and there's some odious, as usual, copy protection shtick on this thing and it makes a hash of the sequence menu.

Gorge, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago)

Consensus upthread is that Travis Tritt is a blue-collar growl guy whose antislick shtick doesn't rock any harder than the slick stuff he's supposedly anti, and his mush stuff is total mush (don't know if that was said upthread, but anyway his mush is total mush). So in general way more potential than achievement, 'cept he's had occasional moments of greatness intense enough to stop the sun. So anyway his new single isn't a skystopper but it's a very nice job, covers a cannily rueful Richard Marx song, "You Never Take Me Dancing" (as in you give me all I want of your money but...), the Marx tune in its time fitting into adult contemporary be-good-to-your-woman land but is just as good now at being a genial country aren't men goof's when they don't understand what women want, which is always. Tritt deepens the blues in the music without losing the song's humor or its modest.

(Other current rock tracks I'm liking, Yellowcard's "Light Up The Sky," which kind of makes me want to kill them for the too-standard pretty emo-boy wail in the chorus, but on its way through the verse, before my homicidal urges take over, there's a rather good catchy walk through the agony of being a young man with, you know, feelings. I also like Daughtry's "What I Want" where Daughtry and guest guitarist Slash heave dark armloads of soil into ear ducts.)

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago)

The thing about Bon Jovi's new style is that his yelp (or whelp or whatever it is) flattens everything emotionally, the same half-yearning pang on one song after another. So even if he were singing "Since U Been Gone" or "Come Clean" or "Nobody 'Til You" he'd probably turn them into something half-pleasant and half-irritating and negligible. (And "It's My Life" and "Have A Nice Day" and "Complicated" were viable enough tunes along those lines; maybe Clarkson or Duff or Lohan could have made them very good, though the material Martin and Shanks actually gave those three was better.)(And bear in mind that so far I've only heard the title track on the new Bon Jovi.)

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 21 June 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago)

"We Got It Going On," BTW -- the most old Jovi on the Bon Jovi is cowritten and performed with Big & Rich. It's one of the few tunes where they drop the big jangle and go for the old stadium rock. Lost Highway is a bit too much. Could have been two-four songs shorter. They should have settled for less when the playbacks started sounding the same. The duet tune with Rimes, for example, being not that great beyond her great tone.

Gorge, Friday, 22 June 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago)

I'm going to have to have it explained to me why the new Big & Rich isn't so hot. The first two numbers sound great. I don't get any sequencing problems on it. It all sounds very warm and sincere.

And I surely miscalculated when saying bad things about the Bon Jovi and Rimes duet. I was temporarily out of my mind when I said it wasn't so hot. It's really nice.

Gorge, Friday, 22 June 2007 06:39 (seventeen years ago)

Man, George, you're making me want to go back and listen to the B&R again, which I didn't think would happen. Maybe I missed something? (I will say, though, that the stuff about them being funny just doesn't apply to the comparatively staight-faced new album, compared to stuff they'd done in the past-- especially the debut, which had tons of punchlines.)

Meanwhile, though, I'm re-evaluating the new Brad Paisley, which I wasn't liking last month and I am liking now. Not sure what changed between now and then, but "Ticks" and "Bigger Fish To Fry" and "I'm Still A Guy" (for starters) are quite entertaining (and, in general, a lot funnier than the new B&R.)

xhuxk, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:25 (seventeen years ago)

(I mean, if what George says about the B&R album is true, maybe that means they're going the Kid Rock route, where they wind up bypassing the overwhelming persona they started with and stop making jokes and just settle on being crafty country-rock journeymen. Which could be a respectable move, in its own way, and maybe even a route to a more long-run career. Far from convinced this is what's happening myself, but the possibility alone does give me some hope.)

xhuxk, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:17 (seventeen years ago)

I've never contributed to the rolling country thread. Hi!

I hate to sound like a shill, but I'm digging this woman Stacie Collins. She just put out her disc, The Lucky Spot. It's kind of a honky tonk/Chicago blues/Stones thing. It's a bit on the vintage side, but it's not full blown retro. The band is just rocking. Both Dan Baird and Warner Hodges play guitar. they give the music a bit of that trashy roots rock vibe from the 80s. http://www.staciecollins.com/music.html

QuantumNoise, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

crafty journeymen, yep, that's what Big & Rich seem to be, and they are putting their heart into their ballads or slow ones or whatever you call them. I don't have the heart to put on this Hayseed Dixie thing, Weapons of Grass Destruction--they're wacky!!--but I suspect the cover of "Strawberry Fields" is about as worthwhile as Big & R's AC/DC cover. But I mean, you know how it is when artists have supposedly gone Out There as did the Beatles and then they came back to earth (with "Lady Madonna" or "Back in the USSR" or whatever, Rock tunes liken in the olden days)--and that's what I think Big & Rich are ultimately doing. I find a few more things to admire about the record but they're still basically sonic things, arrangements, and not related to the songs or the performances themselves, and they really do sing like some weird version of folkiedom gone wrong, which theoretically I admire, too.

As for some weird shit from Nashville, this new, basically self-released CD by a duo called Ode Hazelwood is some kind of take on '20s and '30s vaudeville blues/jazz, as if Memphis Minnie and Grandma Dixie Davis got in a studio with some trombones, kazoos and parade drums and did these songs about how the '20s were sexy, fun and ultimately very scary. One song is about how the singer wants to make it in the big old world but finds herself on the 13th floor, another one is about how crossing the river from Kentucky to Indiana is a terrifying prospect. Produced by the same guy who did Paul Burch's last one--which I liked when he was rocking out, by the way, in the manner of the sloppy Faces--and full of pretty accomplished music--so the weird revisionist songs full of 2/2 oompah actually mean something and they (husband-and-wife duo who met at Belmont University and bonded over love for jug-band and Bessie Smith and so forth) actually say something about what could have been merely retro. Good; the singing is also good and once you get acclimated to the somewhat campy aspects of their vibratos (both sing--Joseph and Raven Hazelwood, they call themselves), it all flows right smartly. it's called Radio Noise, they've been playing around town here.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

Took time out to watch CMT yesterday. Primarily, for its top 20 countdown but I also noticed they're still burying viewers with reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard, billed as a "farewell tour" which seems to mean the channel is determined to air every episode at least one more time.

Anyway, the lead cut from Big & Rich was in at 10. Bon Jovi had "Make a Memory" at 11 -- one of the tunes I just skip past on the LP, and Lambert was around 9 with "Famous In a Small Town." But what surprised me most was John Waite at 5 with the remake of "Missing You." I'll have to go and check out that album.

Gorge, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

New Paisley album is just really uneven; I'm pretty sure that was my problem with it before. Most of the ballads -- especially the Carrie Underwood duet, surprisingly enough (since I like Carrie Underwood) and the gospel one, are as deadly dull as his persona has frequently hit me before. ("Letter To Me" has a fairly interesting talking to his younger self lyric, though, and "Some Mistakes" at least has him singing part of it in a pretty high register.) a And as K. Sanneh suggests in his oft pereptive Brad-and-Toby-can-be-funny-guys piece in this weekend's Sunday Times, Brad's punchlines (for instance in "I'm Still A Guy," which is pretty good but often too dumb and platitudinous to be great -- ditto "Online" and "Mr. Policeman") frequently fall flat and aren't as clever as they pretend to be. My favorite songs are probably "Ticks," "If Love Was a Plane" (best slow-to-midtempo one -- just a really good melody), "Better Than This" (not to be confused with "It Did", which has a chorus that confusingly goes "It doesn't get better than this"), "Bigger Fish To Fry" (which would be better without Little Jimmy Dickens and the other Kung-Pao Dingbats as surely as Big N Rich's "Please Man" would be better without Wyclef Jean) and the awesome closing instrumental "Throttleneck," still the only time I'm truly convinced Paisley's as great a guitar player as everybody says he is. (Speaking of the Kung-Pao Poo Poo Platters, what's with this "Previously" track? If it's the beginning of country albums insisting on have hip-hop skits, I'm pissed off.) Anyway, a good album, sure. But hardly a great one.

xhuxk, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago)

"insisting on having..." (among other typos etc.)

"Bigger Fish To Fry"'s conceipt by the way is that Brad has plenty of venial sins but there are lots of people with mortal sins out there for the devil to spend his time concentrating on more. Except Brad's not nearly as Catholic about it as I just was. Again, a really great song -- just would have been better without gratuitous asides by Brad's buddies.

(Kelefa's John Mayer analogy for Paisley -- i.e., heartthrob with guitar chops -- made a lot of sense. But right, Mayer's otherwise much-evidenced sense of humor has yet to show up in his music, apparently.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:25 (seventeen years ago)

im looking forward to the new paisley, because of his jesus shit. the sex stuff, and the nostaliga stuff ive always found toxic, and he doesnt realy hve a sense of humour, though he thinks he does, but man does his realtionship to jesus is brilliant.

watched best little whorehouse in texas on cable last night, and im always suprised at how good it is, like a cornpone, fosse number, with some of parton's best material (esp sneaking around on you and hard candy christmas)

pinkmoose, Sunday, 24 June 2007 00:30 (seventeen years ago)

Decided I'm not digging the remake of "Missing You" with Alison Krauss so much. She's a better singer than John Waite but it takes the edge off the original version. He tries to shovel it back in but only has half the face time. Still a good song but I'll keep the oldie.

Gorge, Sunday, 24 June 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago)

There's better stuff than that on Waite's new album though George (as Frank and I both suggest upthread):

FRANK:
Just posted this on my mice pace profile as my song of the day (loved the Babys cover as well; thought the "Missing You" duet with Alison Krauss
was tepid, though not bad):

let's just end with the song of the day for February 16, 2007, John Waite's "Highway 61 Revisited." It's a full-scale Chess blues reimagining of the song, as grimey and forceful and funny as a Muddy Waters track, but of course w/ Dylan's collage-and-paste comic terror words, sung by Waite with no attempt to sound the least bit Chicago but instead using the same late '70s-early'80s high-pitched hair-rockpop delivery he'd used back in his late '70s-early '80s high-pitched hair-rockpop heyday. So it's impassioned and ingratiating while the blues grinds away underneath. He lets loose with "Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah" at the end. Inspired. I can't say I was expecting this.

[Not that I ever paid enough attention to Babys-Waite-Bad English to have fully formed expectations anyway]

CHUCK
That John Waite album is pretty good. And yeah, the Babys updates "Isn't It Time" and "Head First" rule. I think I also liked "New York City Girl," "St Patrick's Day", and especially "The Hard Way" (which sonically earned its title as I recall), none of which I'd ever heard in any version before. But I think I marked the tracks I liked most on the advance copy I sent to Frank, so I can't be completely sure.

CHUCK
John Waite album sounds like if Keith Urban liked Johnny Thunders, I decided. (JW even hears JT's "You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory" on the radio in "Downtown"!)..well, *solo* Thunders. I prefer the Heartbreakers, but I'm not complaining. (Also, Urban and Thunders might even have certain addictions in common.) High point of "New York City Girl": guitar solo. High point of "St. Patrick's Day": When you can hear the marching band drums in the background.

xhuxk, Sunday, 24 June 2007 01:15 (seventeen years ago)

The "Previously" on the Paisley album is a recap of some of the Kung Pao skits--this is at least his fourth album in a row (including the Christmas album) to have one. I was listening to this one and wondering why George Jones didn't make it this time. (Clearly I have too much time on my hands.)

Willman, Sunday, 24 June 2007 02:12 (seventeen years ago)

Well, now you have my interest. I like my Babys records and "Head First" and "Isn't It Time" come off the best of them. "Union Jack" is due for a revival, too, although it might be to British. I've written for a Brit pub for a number of years though so the concept of getting banged up to "'allo, 'allo, 'allo" in a chorus of a mini-rock opera has always been pretty neat.

Gorge, Sunday, 24 June 2007 05:24 (seventeen years ago)

Wading through a large pile of unsigned or indie country-leaning Southern/roots/dad-rock; could take weeks or months to develop concrete opinions about any of these, but anybody who wants to jump the gun by listening to the websites should be my guest:

Black Angel from California: New album O'Santabarbara supposedly even more Stonesy followup to their quite Stonesy and quite good and confusingly similarly album-covered-and-titled O'California, which I wrote about upthread. 17 songs, including a bunch over five minutes long, so this one will defintely take a while to get to:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=122952494

Catfish Willie from Missouri: Jim Morrison vocals in a very tough John Lee Hooker riffed biker-country context? Beyond that, I dunno yet. 16 songs, so it could take a while. "Piece of It All" and "Road Dog" sound real good so far. This is the band here I'm most interested in George's opinion about, I think.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/catfishwillie

Chooglin' from Minnesota: So far I like their "I'm Your Man"-style hard garage burner "Treat Her Right" and their lovely "Free Bird" style garage jam "You Sucked The Life Out Of Me Baby" better than their James Brown rip "Do It Do It," but we'll see. Only 10 songs, so not that much work. Name via Creedence:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/chooglin

Dollar Store from ???: On Bloodshot Records with some connection to the Waco Brothers, who I've never seen what the big deal was about, plus Replacements comparisons, so usual alt-country concerns apply. But "Twisting in the Wind" sounds like a decent little Tex-Mex farfisa tune so far and "In The Gravel Yard" is a nifty Jason and the Scorchers facscimile about prison and "Star" has a serviceable chorus and "Dying Light" a good dark guitar opening, so these cowpunk revivalists seem kinda promising:

http://www.bloodshotrecords.com/album/dollarstore/307

Shoestring Strap from California: Haven't put this on at all yet, but Mudgrass is a good title:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/shoestrings2

Tumbelweed Junction from Arizona: Put this on briefly a couple weeks ago, and it struck me as weaker than I'd hoped, though maybe that just means they need a bigger production budget. I have hopes since their guns on their CD cover look outlaw indeed and the clothes make them look like they'd be a bad-ass norteno group. But "Hot New Country" just seemed like the usual whining about how country was better in the old days, ho hum, especially since plenty of hot new country kicks harder than this:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/tumbleweed2

xhuxk, Sunday, 24 June 2007 13:50 (seventeen years ago)

On second thought, I'd say Dollar Store definitely aren't gonna cut it. Just your usual alt-country and Westerberger lukewarmness, for the most part. Though their Tex-Mex track "Twisting in the Wind" does have a little bit of Skynyrd's "What's Your Name" in its intro, I just figured out. But their Jason and the Scorchers stuff sounds closer to the Scorchers after their great debut EP than Scorchers on said debut EP, and usually they don't even scorch that much.

Shoestring Strap aren't impressing so far, either: Too much hokum, not enough mud, in their bluegrass, and as with Dollar Store, their singer is no great shakes. But "Don't Forget Who You Are" by Tumbleweed Connection (opening track on their CD) turns out to be a decently stern and dark attempt at Montgomery Gentry standing-one's-ground as a cold one comes on.

xhuxk, Sunday, 24 June 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

Tumbleweed JUNCTION I mean. (Isn't Tumbleweed Connection an old Elton John LP? Which reminds me that I heard a little bit of Elton oubucking the broncos in the rodeo-do crocodile rocking in the boogie-woogie of Toby Keith's new album a few weeks ago, and didn't make note of it until this second.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 24 June 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago)

Catfish Willie -- kind of like Omar & the Howlers without the major label production.

I'd have edited/tossed four or five tunes for the CD. Less is more and since Catfish is one of those tuneless singers (I've no problem with tuneless singers when it fits the style and this does) with one affect --the slow numbers, or anything meant to convey weariness or emotion, don't do anything for me.

I like the fast clippers -- he's best at frenetic -- and intro instro -- Why Come? Ditto for Catfish Stomp. City Dump, Let Me Pass, Piece of It All in descending order.

Accurate in the vintage sound for raw Chicago R&B play it fast through a Fender Bassman turned all the way up. It's a real stretch to compare it to CCR, not so much Black Oak Arkansas meets RL Burnside.

Gorge, Sunday, 24 June 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago)

new Terri Clark pushed back until next year--as I thought, they seem to have realized they didn't zackly have the tunes. I still like "Tough with Me," though.

they've been having these Saturday afternoons with country songwriters, at the Country Music Hall of Fame downtown, and yesterday it was John D. Loudermilk. In his old '60s pictures, he wore big black horn-rimmed glasses and looked like a cross between Peter Sellers as Claire Quilty and Stan Frieberg as a Southern hipster. Now he looks like the hippest Baptist ex-pothead you could imagine. He talked a little bit about his career, spirituality and Edgar Cayce, and when he played his "Break My Mind" and "Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye" you heard not only where Gram Parsons and Kristofferson and Newbury and those guys got a lot of their shit, you could also hear the '50s turning into the '60s--the sheer charm, specificity and freshness of his songs is really quite remarkable. And he did "Tobacco Road" and made it sound sinister--he never was poor but he did hang out in the red-light district in Durham, N.C. where he's from. Pretty amazing, him and his guitar. Dylan really didn't have too much on John D.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 24 June 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

tumbleweed connection is the best of the elton goes country expriments, and one of the better anglonashville confections

pinkmoose, Monday, 25 June 2007 04:42 (seventeen years ago)

Tumbleweed Juntion are growing in on me, or at least the first half of their album or so is, especially "Don't Forget Who You" are and its fellow Monkey Gentry pinch-hitter "Girl Why" and the fugitive song "I'm On The Run". Their album seems to lose steam after the sixth song or so, though; diddyboppy "Hot New Country" (where they miss Hank and Willie and Waylon, but say at least there's some pretty girls now and that's okay) just sounds tired.

Liking at least a couple select tracks on the Shoestring Strap CD, too: "I Ain't Right" dances a perfectly serviceable hoedown, and "Memphis At Midnight" sounds convincingly, sweetly strung-out. So maybe the rest will grown on me, or maybe not.

Meanwhile, been tentatively dipping my toes into the new White Stripes album. I definitely approve of those wacky new outfits they're wearing, for whatever it's worth. Some of the album is better than the rest; details eventually (or anywhere else you look this week I'm sure). All I want to say now is the melody in "Effect and Cause" sure does sound a like the "two-step quick-step and a bossa nova" dream sequence of "I Can Dance" by Leo Sayer to me.

xhuxk, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:35 (seventeen years ago)

"will groan on me," I didn't mean. (And I also didn't mean ingrown toenails, though they do seem to be some kind of subliminal typo theme in that previous post.)

Shoestring Strap are actually sounding better in general, the more I play them. Good sense of jig rhythm, in general, and if they don't sound like they roll around the mud like their title suggests, they also don't sound as squeaky clean as most bluegrass hits me. Drive-all-night cocaine country of "Memphis At Midnight" is still the key track, I think.

xhuxk, Monday, 25 June 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

Have had Willie Nelson's Songbird sitting in my apartment for the last seven or eight months without listening to it, since everything else I've heard by him this decade has bored me, and I don't even know the classic Willie all that well, so maybe I just don't get him. But I spun Songbird today and like it quite well. Maybe the guitars have more bite, maybe the material is better, maybe his voice connects to the material more deeply, maybe I connect to his voice more deeply. Didn't realize the title track was the Fleetwood Mac song - may never have known the name of the Fleetwood Mac song, actually, even though I own it, since for me Fleetwood Mac (Lindsey-Stevie era) has five songs I care about and I don't notice the rest, even though I usually like the others well enough.

As for what's grabbing me about Songbird... er, his thin friendly voice is the same as usual... not sure, really.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago)

saw elizabeth cook last night at the living room in ny. her album balls didn't do much for me -- her voice sounds annoying on record, which i think has been mentioned by multiple posters above, and the production is kind of lifeless -- but she really came alive in person, and her songs came alive with her. it's exactly as retro as advertised, but it's got a good ol' rock and roll bar-band kick to it, which was helped tremendously by tim carroll's telecaster playing last night. she's got an easy, graceful way with a ballad. and she can tap dance. which you just don't see a whole lot of these days.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago)

maybe his voice connects to the material more deeply

That was my experience. Adams should get credit for setting the stage and tone for that to happen, if not for picking the songs, can't remember if he did that or not, though I'm guessing he did.

In other news: Bon Jovi has the number one album in the country. I haven't heard it. Should I?

Roy Kasten, Thursday, 28 June 2007 02:35 (seventeen years ago)

Roy: No.

By the way, BJ wouldn't have outstripped the competition (White Stripes, Paisley) by such a country mile if they hadn't pulled this stunt where fans were forced to buy a digital copy of the album to get the first crack at seats for the upcoming tour.

Willman, Thursday, 28 June 2007 08:17 (seventeen years ago)

You want a Tom Petty LP and can't wait for a new one, get Lost Highway. As I said upstream, it's not bad. Could have cut a few tunes for the sake of tightening and the song with Leann Rimes on it is very good. I don't understand the choice of video single. The single isn't one of the better ones on the LP and it's mopey compared to the general sound of the whole thing.

Gorge, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Another good Petty (as written and performed by someone else) is Jason Isbell's "When The Well Runs Dry," which may or may not have something to do with his marriage and time in Drive By Truckers (both over). Dated 2006, with the whole band, apparently outtake from A Blessing And A Curse, which coulda used it. Also good tracks from his solo debut, my review of which will show up soon. Bloody good, much more consistent than their last couple albums (at least), although most of 'em perform on it (kid's got some hooks):
http://www.myspace.com/jasonisbellmusic"> http://www.myspace.com/jasonisbellmusic

dow, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:11 (seventeen years ago)

speaking of Drive By Truckers, the upcoming Bettye LaVette collab with them and David (father of Patterson) Hood and some other Muscle Shoalsians sounds really interesting, all about how Betty(e) wished her Child of the '70s Muscle Shoals record from the early '70s was shelved and what it did to her career. Heard a song off it, and it might actually be the best thing I've ever heard her do. the record is set to be called The Scene of the Crime...

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

should be, wished her Child had not been shelved...

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago)

I posted this on an RL Burnside R.I.P. thread but in case you missed that, I am adding it here:

http://www.nmshillcountrypicnic.com/07_press_release.htm

2nd annual North Mississippi Hill Country Picnic celebrates the legacies of departed North Mississippi blues legends including R.L. Burnside, Junior Kimbrough, and Othar Turner

Extended to Two Days, June 29-30, 2007

Last July’s inaugural North Mississippi Hill Country Picnic was a resounding success, drawing over 1,000 people to a rural site in Potts Camp in Marshall County. The festival demonstrated the vitality of the contemporary blues scene in North Mississippi, and in light of the tremendous public response this year’s event has been extended to two days. Potts Camp is located off of Route 78, about halfway between Memphis and Tupelo.

The festival celebrates the legacies of departed North Mississippi blues legends including R.L. Burnside, Junior Kimbrough, and Othar Turner, and the festival will once again feature many of their children and grandchildren. These include Duwayne Burnside, and his band the Mississippi Mafia; the Burnside Exploration, featuring Cedric and Garry Burnside; David Kimbrough; the Rising Star Fife and Drum Band, led by Othar Turner’s 17-year-old granddaughter Sharde Thomas.

Other "second generation" acts returning to the event include Kenny Brown, R.L. Burnside’s longtime guitarist and "adopted son;" and the Reverend John Wilkins, son of pre-WWII recording artist Robert Wilkins, whose song "Prodigal Son" was covered by the Rolling Stones. Also returning to the festival are soul-blues legend Bobby Rush, Jimbo Mathus and Knockdown South, T-Model Ford, Cary Hudson with Blue Mountain, Jocco Rushing with Fried Chicken & Gasoline, and John Barnett.

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago)

100% agreed on the Isbell, dow, I just got it a few days ago but I'm already thinking top 10 for the year possibly. he's just such a creative lyricist (I love the premise behind "Shotgun Wedding" and "Dress Blues" is beyond-words good, hard to think of too many better songs about soliders EVER), a fine singer, and unlike Patterson Hood and (sometimes) Cooley, he can write a damn tune.

JoshLove, Friday, 29 June 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago)

Indeedio on all counts, Nashville Scene Top Ten for sure, and strong possibilty for others. Not many songs continue to unfold in thought like his.While writing the review, I went back and listened to the ones he contributed to Truckers albums; all good, but the breakthrough to current level seems to have been "Goddammed Lonely Love." Actually, he may be past that now: no actual need for every line to jump at you, like in "G.D.L.L.," cos of unified effect. Could use a little more noise, but maybe that's just me. I don't think anything ends too abruptly, like several songs on A Blessing And A Curse (The title track, for inst). was just thinking about the album where they back Betty, Edd, and I think she's the one I heard interviewed, who grew up in a bawdy house or something, and who makes a point of a secular POV, and further adapts (changes words of)contemporary material to accentuate: the opposite of Blind Boys' adaptations of Waits, etc.

dow, Saturday, 30 June 2007 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

As somebody who once used to have to wear dress blues to certain parades and other formal officer functions (and who hated it), I'll be surprised if I don't like Isbell's soldier song. And as somebody who has had very little use for everything the Drive By Truckers have done post-Decoration Day, I'll be surprised if I wind up liking the rest of his album much. But (if and when a copy falls into my lap), I hereby promise to keep an open mind.

Otherwise, I wound up like Tumbleweed Junction more than Shoestring Strap. Even though their song "Hot New Country" makes me cringe as much as any country song, famous or otherwise, I've heard this year, TW get a real Montgomery Gentry-like mean-old-neighbor get-offa-my-lawn gravitas into most of the tracks on Outlaws Forever, and hard guitar chords to match (though better recording would make them kick harder), and they sing convincingly about being working men and getting laid off and then getting lazy and trying to get their wives to go back to work instead, not to mention running from the law and whatnot. Shoestring Strap are a lot more laid back and apparently emotionally healthy, and it seems the only time they're running is when they're running down the road trying to loosen their load (though it's never that exciting, and you don't get the idea they drive too fast), and the only workingmen they seem to aspire to be are the ones on Workingman's Dead, and there are moments when that influence helps their strings and slides jam almost as fluidly as say Tea Leaf Green, but more often they get too laid-back ethereal indie-rock alt-country for their own good. Though again, I do like the strung-out cocaine song. And they also have a 20-second regional Mexican snippet called "No Estoy Correcto (Ahorita)," which is gratuitous but nice.

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 July 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago)

(Not to suggest that being strung out on cocaine is emotionally healthy, but maybe I like them better when they hint they might not be.) (And speaking of apparent drug fiends, this has nothing at all to do with country, but I've actually been liking the new A.R.E. Weapons LP, after hating their second one.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

I aspire to be like the workingmen on Working Man's Dead too, insofar as that involves customized Porches and Hippie Chick Nation (As for the rest,"Heroin's something to look forward in the rest home," said Garcia, after he supposedly got scared straight.)Otherwise, I'd probably like Tumbleweed Junction better. Holy carp, this You're Gonna Miss Me soundtrack is basically a lazyman's trip to the canon, in terms of familiar titles, but listening grabbed me by the neck and slung me down the bowling lane, one more tyme in thee be here NOW. (80s tracks keep invading 60s and unidentified decades, in a totally effective way.) "Two Headed Dog" or "Bloody Hammer" would be perfect mixmates with "Dress Blues"(even though the latter is country), in terms of all the frustration and futility and blood in the corner of the eye of everything, and soulfulness too, busting of the country(As in genre and we the people.)I gotta go see Roky on tour. (That collection, on Trance Syndicate, maybe? Came out a year or two ago, seemed to make a case for him as a father of acid folk,in terms of 12-string tapestries of anguished devotion detoured into itself, but plenty moving)

dow, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:59 (seventeen years ago)

"customized Porches"? "Porsches"? Ah'll take either.

dow, Sunday, 1 July 2007 03:02 (seventeen years ago)

Found it: on Shout!Factory, I Have Always Been Here Before, two discs, and it includes "You're Gonna Miss Me" etc. etc., as well as the compulsively privatized (yet musically attractive)outreach mentioned above.

dow, Sunday, 1 July 2007 03:41 (seventeen years ago)

hi everyone, happy Freedom Day! Don, I had the Roky 2-disc a couple years ago, and you know, I like the Elevators stuff but frankly found most of the later Roky kinda like John Fogerty with no money--certainly no Porches or hippie chix (altho the doc makes it clear that he and his mom were pretty, er, bonded). but then I hear he's terrifying, and good, live, still is. but maybe I am wrong about the later stuff.

enjoying Bluegrass Elvises by Shawn Camp and Billy Burnette. They pull this off, rock on out, and I guess actually remind us forcefully that EP turned into everything and nothing but was specifically post-country in '54 except no one talked like that back then. They sing great, and they don't really sing bluegrass, and they play blues licks, great ones, on stuff like "Hound Dog," so perhaps I like it simply because it doesn't try to be bluegrass. The CD insert features a shot-out TV set.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

I actually prefer Roky's metallic turn of the '80s stuff (circa "Bermuda"/The Evil One/The Runes) more than anything but the very greatest (i.e., "You're Gonna Miss Me" or "Fire Engine") 13th Floor Elevators songs, but he lost me after "Don't Slander Me" in '85 or so, and I never really got his Buddy Holly/Tex-Mex type stuff. That 2-CD set is useful though, if only because I stupidly purged too many of his earlier records whilst previously moving.

Playing new Gogol Bordello now; sounds really good, and I was under the impression that they'd started to spin their wheels. Maybe not, or maybe they're just spinning them so fast and drunkenly that I don't mind. Favorites so far include "Wonderlust Kids," "Alcohol," "American Wedding" (Eugene Hutz seems perplexed by crazy American tradition of having to get up so early to prepare) and twirling dervish East-European instrumental "Super Taranta!" I'm still waiting for a Borat collaboration, however.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago)

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Speaking of Nugent, another Tom Werman-produced act from the salad days of arena rock, Molly Hatchet's Flirtin' With Disaster -- Live is halfway decent. Considering half of the original band's dead. But the leader, Bobby Ingram, who wasn't in the original line-up but who discovered Danny Joe Brown, has taken over and carried on the name, which was apparently not very nailed down. Kind of proves it wasn't so much the personnel as the style and vibe. Find someone who can still do Frazetta-style covers and you're set.

Comes with a DVD, so you can see the audience, middle-aged white people, no one under 21, shot through with a share of the kinds of chix who always respond to show-us-your-tits (although none do here, it's family entertainment) recommendations. Dave Hlubek, who must weight 350-lbs., still plays guitar, his size seemingly not getting in the way.

They play all the hits perfectly and the middle includes some material veering into old Marshall Tucker territory so this could be just as well on the country thread were it not for the wall of guitar attack. Heavier than new Skynyrd, less corny which wasn't the case originally, and if someone wanted to take a chance on CMT, which they don't, MH would be Crossroaded with Big & Rich or Montgomery Gentry or maybe Keith Urban who professes the great love for playing gee-tar.

Grubbier than some of the melodi-Euro metal I've been hearing this year. Hit list: Whiskey Man, Flirtin', Bounty Hunter, Beatin' the Odds, Dreams I'll Never See.

-- Gorge, Wednesday, July 4, 2007 7:12 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

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Molly Hatchet seemingly made for a July 4 festival, the singer going into the pledge-of-allegiance at the end of one song, much to the hysteria of the Kentucky audience. Plus they play Dixie and the theme from Pier Gynt.

Gorge, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

Ha, Eugene Hutz and his handlebar mustache singing about "My Strange Uncles From Abroad" on now, neato!

Black Angel's O'Santabarbara (called O'SantaBabylon on its back cover) turned out to be either as good or better than their O'California from a few months ago, making them probably the first band I've come across to put out two great albums of new material so far in 2007. Also, I can't think of anybody who has ever pulled off such a dead-on and single-minded approximation of late '70s country-leaning (think "Dead Flowers"/"Wild Horses"/"Fool To Cry"/"When The Whip Comes Down"/"Far Away Eyes") Rolling Stones. Highlights of the new one include "Waylon's Song (You Can't Keep A Good Man Down)", "Brown Califonia Hills" (in which early on the singer requests "a Heineken, I like those the best), "I've Been Bad," and "Chemical Man" -- the latter of which is a 7:46 epic that starts out "chicks like you shouldn't worry about the ozone layer" and then talks about the MTV Top 20 and Madonna's new hairdo in People magazine. That said, the album is really really way too fucking long -- 17 songs, including two more over five minutes. At very least, they should have canned the three completely gratuitous and pointless Stones covers ("Honky Tonk Women," "Stray Cat Blues," and "Brown Sugar"), not to mention most of the equally gratutious parts where lady soul singers chime in the background just, seemingly, so the band can say, "hey, we know some black girls" -- I swear, that's how it seems, and I didn't even get that feeling from Mellencamp circa Lonesome Jubilee, so I have a high tolerance. On the other hand, it's nice that the band knows some black girls, I suppose. And for the most part, the album's great.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

(Oops, Sticky Fingers not late '70s, obviously. But I think people know the sound I mean.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago)

Was it 70s at all? (Hey fellow geezers, did yall see the current Rolling Stone 40th Anniversary Issue, with xgau and Fricke on the Top 40 Albums of '67? Surprised to realize that all those were from that one year, and embarrassed to realize I'd owned almost all of 'em, mostly pretty soon after they were released! What a spoiled little shit I was. But those were all good-to-great, except I later decided John Wesley Harding gets over more on its consistently good-to-great gloss of Harry Smith's Anthology and prob those records Dyl stole from Paul Nelson, and what he'd learned about banding from The Hawks-to-Band--more on the music, I mean, than the words, with a few brilliant exceptions.Still haven't heard The Hollies' Evolution, or the first Procul Harum; how are they?) Dave Hlubek, briefly/intriguingly interviewed in Creem, once got to display his Florida-Polish-All-Amercian-Catholic steadfastness (Pro-proto-metal, anti-"Satan Shit!") "Dixe" and "Peer Gynt"! Aye, and so Jewish Ukraine Gypsybillies are true Rolling Country you betsky (lots more good music on the You're Gonna Miss Me DVD, which also way updates the film, and also adds more Mom Gothic and Roky's spoken-word bullseye, the unedited version of "I Know The Hole In Baby's Head.")

dow, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

"Jewish etc": that is, Gogol Bordello, to those who haven't checked 'em out--do so!

dow, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

I've never owned the first Procol record, Don, but I believe it's the next one, A Salty Dog, which is the best--they rewrite "Whiter Shade of Pale" as "Pilgrim's Progress" and it might be just as a good a song. The Hollies' Evolution is real acid-in-your-teacup stuff, some of it just dreadful, a couple-three good straightforward songs like "The Games We Play" which is all about wanting to, er, sneak-fuck a female who is perhaps too young to s-f, thus dramatic tension is introduced.

Osantabarbara sounds amazing--3 Stones covers! I will track this one down.

Good summer reading is Colin Escott's Roadkill on the Three-Chord Highway. Y'all might know this one already, but I just read it, and just amazing pieces on Wynn Stewart, Orbison, even Jim Reeves. Funny, a little cynical, and well reported to boot.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 5 July 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

Listening to Darryl Worley's Here and Now since one of the cable music video channels was playing his Nothing But a Love Thang and I decided to bite. Reminds me of a Georgia Satellite record, more dumbshit-and-meathead lyrics which makes it unintentionally funnier and more entertaining than the Satellites past album #1.

"Jumpin' Off the Wagon" about playing drunk and getting admonished for it by label. Advocacy of going back to smelling of strong drink being better for the career. Reinforced by "Whisky Makes the World Go Round" and a drunk joke sound effect.

"Free" is the best hard rock tune, hitting that Bad Company Holy Water greatest-standard-mean-equals-hard-rocking-modern-country style. xhuxk might like about half of this thing.

Still has the Do You Remember-for-the-vets shtick, too. Is it possible to make a country record like this without genuflecting to the military?

Gorge, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, I see, big album from -2006-. Next.

Gorge, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

that Worley record had a jumbly geetar-mix thing happening, kind of blues on a Thursday nite in Dyersburg, Tenn., after a few beers, this kid has a good little band. nice dueling blues guitar effect, and "Just Came Back from a War" turned out to be a not-bad, sorta naturalistic even, war song.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, you're right about the -geetars.- Mostly why I like it, I think.

Gorge, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago)

I still need to hear that Darryl Worley album. (Actually, don't think I've ever listened to any Darryl Worley album all the way through -- may or may not have ever owned one, even overnight. I thought the word is that he'd become cynical about the war since the days he was equating Bid Laden with Hussein at the top of the chart; is that wrong? Either way, the geetar descriptions sound enticing.)

New Gogol Bordello album just sounds better and better -- possibly even their best ever, and I've been listening to them since the beginning, when they were on Rubric Records or whatever it was called and Eugene Hutz was cosack-dance deejaying until the wee wee hours at the Bulgarian Bar 416 B.C. on the corner of Broadway and Canal every Saturday night. Or maybe I just never listened close enough the songwriting on their earlier albums? More likely, he's either his writing or the way he puts songs together or both have gotten more coherent -- I just don't remember ever connecting with so many of his words before, and it doesn't seem like it's because he's wimping out singer-songerwriter stylesky or anything. First line of opening song starts "there were never any good old days," and the rest fulfills the promise and the Ukraine-rock stomp rarely lets up: song about woman wanting to be a model ("Zina-Marina"), song about not reading the bible ("Super Theory of Super Everything"), more or less self-explanatory "Harem in Tuscan," "Forces of Victory" which appears to be Gogol Bordello's idea of mythic pomp-and-circumstance viking-style metal, "Your Country" which gets its funk from "Tramped Under Foot" by Led Zeppelin and tells how your country will go down the tubes like all the other countries (sounded excellent on 4th of July!), "American Wedding" which turns out not to be about getting up early to prepare as suggested above but it's 1 a.m. and people are still on the dancefloor staring at their shoes even though they have to get up early the next morning and "she has a boyfriend" though Hutz never says who "she" is (the bride? one of the bridesmaids) and either way it's just a notch or two lower on the wedding-song ladder than "You Never Can Tell" by Chuck Berry or "I Knew the Bride" by Nick Lowe. And otherwise the more I listen, the more I'm hearing.

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 July 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago)

I was playing Worley and the Foghat Live II thing last night and they went together like mustard and a hotdog, or a shot and a beer, or something. Worley apparently had his tour underwritten by George Dickel so he sneaks in a reference to the brand on one of his drinking tunes.
They are not, thank heavens, about being a sensible tippler although he endorses the whisky maker for promoting responsible drinking in the fine print.

For some reason, I found this quite hilarious.

Gorge, Saturday, 7 July 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

Lotsa typos as usual in my previous (Bin Laden, Tuscany, listen close enough TO , extra he's, etc.)

Anyway, I'm not saying there are no comparative slow spots (not necessarily tempo-wise -- "Alcohol" is slow and good) on the new Gogol, and remember I can tend toward hyperbole in such raves, so caveat emptor as usual. But I can't think of a previous Bordello LP (not even the Tamir Muskat J.U.F. dub one, though perhaps I should go back and check that out again) that had a shot at my top ten, and right now this new collection of back-in-the-U.S.S.R. two-beat oompah-rock fiddler-on-the-rye Balkan-beat gypsy-punk tanz party muzik sure does. Honestly, this is how Tom Waits would sound if he was any good. Also better than any Legendary Shack Shakers album I've ever heard, for what that's worth. Also, I left out that there are lyrics about pickled herring and "scarecrows in hometowns."

Also been liking Blasters-like Boston eclectic roots trio Cold Cold Heart's cdbaby album Blue Collar Attitude these past few days, even if their more jumpbluesabilly cuts "That's Not Fair" and "Eight Days in Dallas" have a bit too much Royal Crown Revue '90s swing revival in them, and I'm still not sure what being "a white collar worker with a blue collar attitude" means, especially when the apparently middle-aged band members are standing in a garage in the CD booklet (yuppies playing biker on weekends, on "street machines" as next song says?) Favorites so far are the better-than-Los-Lonely-Boys (who I kind of like) mariachi-horn soul of "Walking Away Wounded" and the uncharacteristically dark "Sergio": They seem to be better downbeat.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/coldcoldheart

xhuxk, Saturday, 7 July 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago)

Gogol made my Top Tens a couple times, but Tamil Muskat Vs. J.U.F. was half brilliant, half slack (the drummer suddenly remembered he was from a band called Big Lazy). Can def see how Eugene's J.U.F. subsets made for reportedly killer "interludes" in the midst of Gogol gigs, and this is still an EPworth of greatness. OMG, on LiveEarth: Keith Urban's doing the oooo-oooo intro to "Gimmee Shelter," on his guitar! Aleysha (sic) Keyes is singing the Merry Clayton "Baaabe, BURN ON, it's just a shot away" part; Keith: "Floood, threaten the very Earth to-day"--yeah, and drought too, in Europe as it is in the Heartland (now they're doing something else that's more like Bon Jovi, but he's playing better than Sambora--when will he do a live album? Getting toward toward Dickey Betts' more lyrical moments now. How was his band, The Ranch, or something like that, before his solo career?)

dow, Saturday, 7 July 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

Now on LiveEarth, stompin' with bluesy electric fiddle, sax, bass, drums, geetar: Nanatuk, five scientists, live from Antarctica, and good too.

dow, Saturday, 7 July 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago)

"Nunatak," that is.

dow, Saturday, 7 July 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

Charity case stuff, not even much liked by penguine, from Antarctica. What happened in Anarctica should have stayed in Anarctica.

Pitiless flamenco dancing by Gogol Bordello guy on Madonna stage answers my question on whether or not I'd like them.

Gorge, Sunday, 8 July 2007 23:14 (seventeen years ago)

Wouldn't particularly expect you'd like Gogol Bordello, George (and sometimes I surprise myself that I do.) But I will say that Sergio Leone pomp interludes of "Dub the Frequencies of Love" on their new album (which song is not reggae or dub, really, though it is apparently about the music of one small island taking over the world, and the drums sound vaguely Caribbean) bring to mind the band Babe Ruth at least momentarily. There's also this cornball stage-musical aspect to a couple of the new album's cuts ("Harem in Tuscany," I think, and maybe "My Strange Uncles From Abroad") that I find a bit disconcerting. Most of the rest, I like. But yeah, I can see why others might find them irritating.

Dan Colehaour's Straight To the Highway showed up in the mail with Springsteen and Mellencamp comparisons in its press bio, and I was skeptical -- he's from Iowa, looks like a folkie -- but turns out the album sounds real good, like the midpoint between John Waite's Rounder album and the last Keith Urban maybe; same sonic space as the last couple Pat Green albums as well -- plus some Jackson Browne in his singing, actually. No idea why he's being billed as a singer-songwriter, seemingly for the NPR crowd -- If he staked a claim in Nashville, he might actually have a shot. Some good details in the lyrics, too, like the pregnant girl in "The Likes of Us," I think it is, whose uncle in Dearbon Heights gets her a job that gets her out of the milltown. (Dearborn has perhaps the biggest Arab-American population in the United States, by the way; not sure about Dearborn Heights.) And the singer goes to jail for "Another Man's Crime" in the song of that title, and the kid in the "Quarry Town" joins the Army. Gets too sappy too often (in "My America" -- guess that's the Mellencamp influence -- as anybody could predict; in "Your Secret's Safe With Me," though that's the one where the guitars kick in.) But there's a good voice, hooks, melodies.

Hmmm, actually, according to his myspace page, he IS based in Nasvhille now. Which seems a smart move:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=20188269

Tom T. Hall's Sings Miss Dixie And Tom. T has dead small-town soldiers (in "A Hero in Harlan," a real good one that's about how people romanticize the war but doesn't do so itself) plus another song about a funeral ("A Headstone for Harry"), and I'm really liking "Pretty Green Hills" and "Once Upon A Road" and especially "Leaving Baker County" too, and the part in "Jimmy Martin's Life Story" where you're not allowed to sing hard-drinking blues songs at yet another funeral, and Tom T is generally in good voice (talking more than singing, but he's always been a great talker) after all these years. Some of the rest is just bluegrass where Tom's going along for the ride, or old folks complaining about not fitting in with young folks anymore, but that's okay.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/tomthall

"Walking Away With You," the song I compared to Los Lonely Boys on the Cold Cold Heart album I mentioned a couple days ago, actually sounds more like the Drifters, which is good. (Its mariachi horns also quote some famous oldie explicitly, but I can't place it.) Album also has a good droney prison doom folk song called "Warden Please." Whole CD is nice, though it does grate a little when they go into Cherry Poppin Daddies mode in "That's Not Fair," which is about having a bad credit rating I think.

xhuxk, Monday, 9 July 2007 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

And oh yeah, "Street Machine" and "About Next Weekend" on the Cold Cold Heart are decent rips of some classic-rock-radio blues-rock classics, blatant enough for me to recognize that something's being ripped but not enough for me to identify what it is.

xhuxk, Monday, 9 July 2007 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

I wrote a Nashville Scene piece you can probably find somewhere that talked about Worley's last one and Dierks' too, in light of the guitar interplay, basically. Band dynamix. The Worley record seemed obviously post-blues, West Tennessee if you will; the Bentley seemed post-bluegrass, East Tennessee. Or something like that.

How did the Tom T. Hall sneak by me? Is it him relaxing bluegrass-style or what? He sang on the Charlie Louvin record, you can hear him briefly on "Blues Stay Away." Sounds OK to me.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 12:33 (seventeen years ago)

Is it him relaxing bluegrass-style?

Yeah, mostly. It's brand new; just out this month on an invisible label. And the album seems a little too thin -- too often, Tom relaxes too much -- but maybe half of its 12 fairly short songs are real good.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 12:48 (seventeen years ago)

Was that really Eugene with Madonna? I like Gogol's albums a lot more than him plus her. Maybe if she did a guest shot with them, or a mashup of their and her music (or if she did a J.U.F. mix with them?), that could work. Good to know Tom T. is back. Josh Love and I were talking about Jason Isbell's (which I'm mailing you today, xhuxx), and here's my review (the "Try" guy is "antihero," not hero, and a couple other things got dislodged during shipment, but on other hand, he came up with "character actor," which made me think of "b-movie beatitudes," so basically cool).http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0728,allred,77190,22.html

dow, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

Darryl Worley had one, think it was self-titled (I wrote about it, should remember), that was strikingly sober, with the non-fretful but sanely apprehensive "If Something Should Happen," the relentlessly logical "I Drink", lots of others way past the hideously maudlin early hits like "I Miss My Friend" and "Have You Forgotten." What I tastefully dubbed The New Unease, as in "YEEHAWWW, we re-elected Bush! Uh-oh...." as the war continued downhill, for inst. This of course got to the point where the taxidermical Uncle Dave Lee Roth figure in Trick Pony 'splained to the CMT interviewer, "Aww, ever'body else had a corpse in their video, so we had to too." But good to know Darryl is still doing his thing, judging by yall's descriptions. So are Area Code 615, ca. 1972 A.D., judging by a track I just heard, "Devil Weed And Me." Much more urban and even urbane '72 than I expected, esp. with that title; anybody heard their records? On the dayjob, they were A-list Nashville Cats, rat?

dow, Thursday, 12 July 2007 05:20 (seventeen years ago)

the 2 Area Code 615 records were repackaged around '73. good stuff, instrumentals, one of their songs got used by Old Grey Whistle Test, the UK music TV program. they were A-list sessioneers, some from the first Muscle Shoals rhythm section, like David Briggs and Norbert Putnam. Buddy Spicher, who fiddled with Ray Price's band, was in it, Mac Gayden, Wayne Moss...
have we talked about the Sarah Borges record, Diamonds in the Dark? I'm really enjoying this. I was expecting another Boston half-folkie, half-country record, but she really owns a big and complicated voice, and has something to say about the life of a musician, too. her band plays it big but not too loose, and every song actually has a big, to-the-point hook that seems poised perfectly between sincerity and self-parody. as on "False Eyelashes," a country sorta song about how she had one song that got played on the radio in her home town, everyone thinks she's in tall cotton, but of course it turns out she's down at heel, drives a clunker, but she does own a nice pair of false eyelashes. real nice.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 12 July 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

I'll have to check her out online. So far, despite Gothic Americana tag, what I've heard on Marissa Nadler's micespace makes her seem like a hardy immigrant, whatever she preys on. So far, Billy Joe Shaver's forthcoming Everybody's Brother tends to seem a bit drawn out, even when I like the writing (songs to his wives, in Heaven and on Earth). Duets with John Anderson are also little long, but worth hearing for Anderson, one with Johnny Cash if you like Cash (and the backing band is pretty reliable).None of those songs are all that hot, though. One with Marty Stuart steps smartly, still a little long (despite being like 2:37!)One with Bill Miller's Native American music starts strong, also too long. One with Kristofferson is a disgrace; K. sounds like he's doing a *bad* imitation of Leon Russell's beard-chewing Hank Wilson familiar. Best duet (both voices, writing, arrangement) is the droll, Noo Orleens-tonk "Played The Game Too Long," with Tanya Tucker. "The Tough Get Going," where he mentions cracking a vertebra at his recent Las Vegas wedding, is his best (or funnest) solo. He doesn't allude to the dude he shot, but there's a thread about that (he does get the faith-as-fuel bits in, and they sound more engaging here than on the attempts at straight-up, slowed down professions of faith, etc)Basically a pop guy(art-pop or not) or that's the forte of his old-schoolin', as much as anything.

dow, Friday, 13 July 2007 23:51 (seventeen years ago)

Basically, he shouldn't rely on the words so much,even if they are re J.C. Have more faith in the music. Listen to the Staple Singers, dang.

dow, Friday, 13 July 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, after much convincing arguing from George, I finally returned to the Big & Rich record, and guess what? George is right, sort of -- the album, or a lot of it, is much better than I gave it credit for; you just have to think of it as studio-rock craft and stop looking for punchlines or Cowboy Troy or whatever. You need to forget whatever once seemed to make Big & Rich an unheard of proposition, and just listen to the dang songs. B&R do show off their skills on this thing, though, and I'm starting to like more than I ever expected I would. Some notes: (1) "Lost in the Moment" is a waltz sung explicitly as blue-eyed soul; my Lonestar comparison above was basically bullshit (unless Lonestar were more soulful than I'd remembered); (2) My favorite songs are probably "Between Raising Hell and Amazing Grace," "You Never Stop Loving Somebody," and especially "Faster Than Angels Fly," which must have thrown me at first by not flying fast ("some souls only know one speed," and the speed B&R mostly know on their new album is slow), but now its Coronado Street and crucifixes made in California gold driving Mother Mary insane over a subtle Latin lilt are sounding real Catholic to me and somehow sort of reminding me of something Warren Zevon might have done in the '70s. George's Tom Petty and Don Henley comparisons are ringing true for many of these cuts as well. (3) Then the album gets too sluggish for me, with "Eternity" -- is that the one Christgau calls the wedding song? I'm guessing it is but it still hasn't held my attention enough for me to make sure --- and "When Cocaine In the Mirror I Mean The Devil Gets The Best of Me," so I tend to skip those. (4) "Radio" is still real catchy, though I can still take or leave its intro, and "Please Man" is real catchy too though I can still take or leave Wyclef, preferably leave. (5) "High Five" is okay, I guess, and the album ends fairly lamely. Though the AC/DC cover is at least a great song even if it's done pointlessly and "Loud" is at least loud if ditto.

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 July 2007 01:10 (seventeen years ago)

But but but, here's the weird thing....Big & Rich album of the year (more beautiful two-part harmonies, weirder and more rocking rock, funnier punchlines, higher spirits, more fluid rhythms, and almost entirely about being caught between raising hell and amazing grace, so they can smell Saturday's liquor on your breath when you're in the pew on Sunday and all that) turns out to come from, get this...THE BELLAMY BROTHERS! Who really did set the template for B&R; they put out a frigging album called Country Rap in 1987, for crissakes! Anyway, how can I start explaining Jesus Is Coming? How about with "Grandma's God," a five-minute Middle Eastern psychedelic drone-rock epic (think the Byrds or Yarbirds, in the way their music was updated, say, in "Pepper" by the Butthole Surfers, which I swear this song reminds me of), with a lyric that quotes both "Eight Miles High" and, at the end, for the hallulujahs not the hare krishnas, "My Sweet Lord," and talks about growing up in the '60s on the Beatles and Stones and philosophy and psychology from Socrates to Freud (rhymes with void) and sorting through lots of other gods (rhymes with did not spare the rod) before settling on the diety Grandma worshipped. Similar theme: update of "Old Hippie," a character which I just realized is to the Bellamys what Rabbit Angstom is to John Updike, only this time it's "Old Hippie (Saved)," which sounds creepily unpromising but they actually pull it off, and not just because "he won't be preaching to you like some born-again old fart." Meanwhile, "Jesus is Coming and boy is he pissed" about what's happening to the homeless and the planet and all the lawyers and politicians on the make, over an explicit reggae rhythm with gospel choruses, and that one segues into a reggae-riddimed "Gospel Mix" (ha!) of "Let Your Love Flow." And there's more. "Spiritually Bankrupt" has a real good '70s Jackson Browne mood and I think melody and a dark lyric about all the times they should have died; "I Ain't Going To Hell" is a real holy roller stomper about all the cities they're going to go to instead of Hell; there's a lovely version of "I'll Fly Away" (a bluegrass standard the wife tells me but I'm kind of clueless about it) and uplifting originals called "Wings Of The Wind" and "Faith Came Back To Me," plus oh yeah "Lord Help Me Be The Kind of Person (My Dog Thinks I Am)," where your pooch buries your hooch in the backyard. And I didn't even mention "Drug Problem" yet! As Christian-country moves go, this is astounding, and absolutely unexpected. One of the best albums they've made; could make my top ten.

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 July 2007 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

(Don't mean the Butthole Surfers comparison to be at all misleading, and I'm honestly not being perverse by making it -- it's not "Grandma's God"'s lyric or its personality that remind me of "Pepper"; it's the drone itself. It sounds like "Pepper", somehow. Though no doubt that means the Bellamys and Buttholes just have some similar sonic influence -- again, the Yardbirds and Byrds come to mind, but uh, the Beatles and Stones did that sort of thing too, right? Not sure who invented that particular drone.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 July 2007 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, "Jesus Is Coming" has a waltz rhythm, not reggae, oops. Still real good though: "Soon the love in his heart will the rage in his fist." But he's pissed for excellent reasons, as far as I can tell --the Bellamys' Jesus is clearly a liberal, which is cool. Maybe even an old hippie.

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 July 2007 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

will BE the rage in his fist.

Okay, we're going to go find an Irish bar with a Latin DJ, so I can stop anal-compulsively correcting myself every two seconds. But first I want to quote my favorite lines from the new Luke Bryan album:

"Your little ipod loaded up with Hoobastank/Don't be a tapeplayer hater honey, we're groovin to Hank."

(I may be wrong about the "honey" part, but who cares. It still made me laugh out loud.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 July 2007 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't heard the Bellamy Brothers album--though I'm completely intrigued now--but are you sure Jesus is a liberal on it?

I'm thinking of this press release from a couple years back:

NO LOVE FLOWING HERE:
THE BELLAMY BROTHERS ARE MIFFED BY THE USE OF A RE-RECORDED VERSION OF THEIR CLASSIC 1976 HIT “LET YOUR LOVE FLOW” ON TV ADS RUN BY CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE PHIL ANGELIDES
* * *
The Florida Based Legendary Country Duo, Loyal Republicans Who Have Performed The Song Numerous Times In Support Of President Bush, Have Offered To Perform It Live For Angelides' Opponent, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger

Legendary country duo The Bellamy Brothers may be registered to vote in Florida, but they've offered to perform their classic 1976 pop hit “Let Your Love Flow” for Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in response to its unauthorized use in TV ads for Scharzenegger's opponent Phil Angelides.

David and Howard Bellamy are lifelong Republicans who performed the song for President Bush in support of his campaigns in 2000 and 2004 and at other times for Vice President Dick Cheney and Florida Governor Jeb Bush. The siblings are upset that Angelides, California's Democratic nominee for governor, is using an unauthorized, re-recorded version of the song in an ad that takes the state's voters through the highlights of his life and career.

“We don't mind our song being used for political ads,” says Howard. “We just wish it was by our own party's candidate. A real winner would have used the original version.”

David adds, “We're not California voters, but since we have been associated with the race with our song, we'd have to say we throw our support behind the Terminator.”

In response to Angelides' commercial, The Bellamy Brothers emailed Governor Schwarzenegger's office on Wednesday to inform him that the ad was a re-recorded version of “Let Your Love Flow” using different singers. They made clear that they do not endorse Angelides for governor, and have offered to perform the song live for Schwarzenegger at any time during his campaign—“the original version by the original artist.”

Although The Bellamy Brothers song makes the TV ad shine, Angelides couldn't have picked a bigger supporter of President George W. Bush to highlight his campaign. The band performed at multiple rallies for Bush in 2000 and 2004, and sang the National Anthem at the Liberty Ball during Bush's 2005 inaugural. The Republican Party of Florida honored the band for supporting Bush in 2000 and 2004.

Willman, Sunday, 15 July 2007 04:45 (seventeen years ago)

Interesting. I had no idea about the Bellamys' party leanings til now, but yeah, their Jesus (at least relatively, compared to the sort of Jesus I've tended to detect in country songs over the past few years) sure seems liberal (not that that's a prerequisite for me liking songs about him, but it still strikes me as refreshing). He's not even complaining about, say, being left out of public school curriculums, for instance. There are of course all sorts of possible explanations for the seeming discrepancy (maybe the Bellamys' party allegiances have shifted like lots of other Republicans recently, since that article was written; maybe they're smartly bending over backwards to present a Jesus who might reel people to the left of them in instead of repelling those people away -- though I don't hear "being over backwards" in the music, that's for sure, even if there's nothing especially perceptive or risky about saying that homelessness or the trashing of the earth or lying politicians are bad things; maybe they're just really really moderate Republicans; maybe something else.) But it is interesting, yeah.

And actually, the current country current-events song that's been pissing me off for its wishy-washiness is "What Happened," on the imminent Merle Haggard album The Bluegrass Sessions -- as in "what happened to America?", as in the country doesn't really exist anymore, and the best reasons Merle can come up with are that gas prices and taxes have gone up and there's "crap" (he uses that word) like Howard Stern on the radio and Wal-Marts have replaced five-and-dimes. I dunno, I have no idea what party Merle votes for these days, but he's done a couple smart songs about the war and the Patriot Act in the past couple years; you'd think he would have mentioned Guantanamo or something, but he just sounds to me like he didn't want to offend anybody. (I do kind of like the line about waking about that morning to see the towers fall then going back to bed and dreaming of hell, though -- not easy to do any song remotely about 9-11 these days that doesn't make me wince, and he did okay there -- so I may be underrating the rest of the song so far, I suppose.)

But even then, it seems to be one of the better tracks on what's hitting me as a fairly dull album.
A couple blues, a couple redone old songs of his ("Mama's Hungry Eyes" -- what period of Merle is that from anyway? I barely remember it -- and "Big City" from the early '80s, which I'd forgotten how much I love, though maybe it's just that right at this moment it mirrors how I feel about wanting to get out of the big city myself, though this still isn't the version I'd prefer to hear), a lot of lackadaisical sounding stuff where you have to sit through boring Marty Stuart mandolin breaks or whatever. Maybe the problem is that I just don't like bluegrass much, but if anything, it's because the noodling keeps me from hearing enough Merle on the record, and he just doesn't sound like he's on the top of his game anyway. Not nearly as songful as, say, the new Tom T Hall bluegrass record (which seems a fairly comparable item to set it up against). I do kind of like "I Wonder Where To Find You," though, where Merle's trying to stalk some woman he's no longer with, checking every honky tonk in town at closing time, then switching to Joe's coffee shop when the last honky tonk closes. Maybe some other songs will click too, but I doubt I'll have the energy to give them much more of a chance.

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 July 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

I'm liking the basically pro-forma dumbass Nashville hackwork of that Luke Bryan album (coming out on Capitol) a lot more, actually. Just a lot of songs where fairly hard, fairly funky beats give a kick to the lies about how everybody in small towns lives on dirt roads and rides in trucks and carries around grandpa's tacklebox and gets muscular arms while working on the farm, if you don't live on the farm you wish you did. (How come there's never any country songs about growing up in a small town and hating to go fishing and hunting, or thinking grandpa's boring to spend time with? Because country songwriters are chickenshits, probably.) Anyway, these are all fun tracks: "Country Man" (the one I quoted about with the funny "tape player hater" line -- then a couple songs later he says "don't believe the hype": finally, country acknowledges Public Enemy), "We Rode In Trucks", "I'll Stay Me" (I think that's the one with the real cool Dixieland skiffle funk beat), "All My Friends Say" (trying to get home at night from the club where you say her with some other guy), "Over The River" (and through woods etc.) And there's an okay slow one where the girl you like is in the car in front of you, and another one about how you've only liked "Sweet Home Alabama" and "Tuesday's Gone" and "Working Man's Blues" before until she plays you your first love song (but wait, isn't "Tuesday's Gone" already a love song, sort of, or at least a song about loved somebody once? That doesn't really make sense.) I'm not sure if this is Luke Bryan's first album or not -- if he's existed before now, I never even noticed.

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 July 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

fascinating, fascinating. I totally agree about Big & Rich's record, except for me it's the sonics and the arrangements I admire, at a distance. My favorite song is definitely "High Five." I think the wedding song Xgau and others have mentioned is "Lost in the Moment." And I still think the John Anderson record is the best thing John Rich has put his name on, to date. And sure, I could hear Big & doing the Bellamy's "Let Your Love Flow." As for Merle, recall that Chicago Wind had a fair amount of filler, even notebook-page stuff he just throws out there, but that I also admire Merle's plain old ornery casualness. But that was also his studio-country move with Reggie Young and others on expert backup, pretty slick.

Mike Farris' Salvation in Lights overdoes the white-boy gospel shit but isn't bad, altho I never want to hear again already his "Oh! Mary Don't You Weep."

As for my country record of the year so far, it might just be the Sarah Borges thing, which really does what Elizabeth McQueen nearly did a while back, but with more muscle tone. Not that McQueen's pub rockery wasn't wonderful, but that Borges just outsings about anybody I can name at the moment, and she makes her own the old Dolly Parton album track--from Parton's first RCA sessions in late '67--"False Eyelashes." Completely takes over X's great "Come Back to Me" and the blues, which I think Canned Heat did a version of, "Open Up Your Back Door." Comparisons to Wanda Jackson and rockabilly in general are on the money but inadequate; there's a depth to what she's doing that's way beyond revivalism of any kind, and her band suggests a mythical house band at Stiff Records, with Attractions-style pumping bass and guitar that makes Dave Edmunds' rockabilly shit sound a bit anemic. And writes great stuff on her own that makes this a concept record about a reformed party girl smart enough to mock herself but not too smarty-pants to reveal some of her soul, all that.

Arthur Alexander's Lonely Just Like Me: The Final Chapter fits here, country-soul done in Nashville shortly before Alexander died in town after a performance in the summertime. How to describe his voice? It's resigned, ghostly, beyond tired and cynical into that zone where all ambitions are thrown out like yesterday's beer bottles. It seems effortless but it's big and just shaky enough, the sound of a big man (he was tall) who's been cut down to size, a very mannerly voice that hides some anger in there but never cuts loose. My favorite is "Mr. John," where Arthur goes to meet the man in the title, who greets Arthur with a gun, and who would not let Arthur's war buddy, who didn't make it home alive, marry his daughter. Of course, Arthur wants to see the daughter to determine just how beautiful she was and is, but that doesn't seem to happen. So, Arthur's doing his bit for Memory but can't resist the desire to peek beneath the Muse's skirt. This is the original Nonesuch record released in the '90s with, apparently, the restored track order.

I guess this kinda belongs here, too: Turbonegro's "Hell Toupée." on Retox. A sort of Quiet Riot/Molly Hatchet rocker, and a song about touring and the coming apocalypse and how rockers hate to go bald!! "I spent my life fighting off the pigs/Drinking beer and smoking cigs/Stealing riffs and blowing gigs/But now I'm stuck googling for wigs," and, "The other night I was doing a bump/Then I found myself taking a dump/It gave me time to contemplate/The state of my hair and its terrible fate." And, "My bio-clock is ticking away." Touring=expending all your testosterone=alopecia="night is falling, heads are rolling" and "the genocide of my hair today." Incredible, and the music's just as great.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 15 July 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

xp, starting with corrections of my Luke Bryan post:

where you SAW her with some other guy.
HAVING loved somebody once.
etc.

a couple other things about past folks:

COLLIN RAYE -- Never paid attention to him before; he was on the country chart a lot in the '90s, apparently. New 6-song Selected Hits EP (two new songs and four older hits played live) suggests why I never paid much attention; i.e., he seems to do a lot of ballads with watery melodies that remind me of either Mike and the Mechanics or Peter Cetera or some sapmongers from the '80s like that. Which is potentially interesting, but I don't have time now to work up an interest. There's something mid-60s Dylan-dream-like about the cadence of "That's My Story (And I'm Sticking To It)" (the one hit by him on here I actually remember) though. It's not bad.

RODNEY CROWELL - Gave the American Beat Records reissue of his self-titled (debut I guess) album (from the '80s I guess, too lazy to check) a chance. It's pretty boring, just like pretty much every other Rodney Crowell album I've ever given a chance to. Theory: people who overrate Vice Gill (who helps out on guitar apparently) overrate Rodney Crowell equally; am I wrong? Anyway, the opening cut "Stars On Water" is okay -- some Ronnie Milsap or whoever type r&b smokiness in that one. Then a bunch of nothing songs I had trouble even sitting through once, including "Blame On The Moon," which Bob Seger wound up covering only slightly less boringly a few years later. But then it ends with "Old Pipeliner," which I always seem to like no matter who does it (favorite version I've heard might be the one I used to own on LP by forgotten '80s country family band the Whites), though I don't think I've ever heard the original, if there is one. (Written by Ray King and Tommy Hill; who are they again? Is the song from the actual rockabilly era, or earlier, or later?) Anyway, that "one eyed cat peeping in a sea food store" line sure is raunchy, isn't it? Filthy. Like something Harmonica Frank Floyd would have come up with. But that line is in other songs too, right?

LOU ANN BARTON -- Old Enough, another reissue on American Beat, also from the '80s. CD cover says she was was in the Fabulous Thunderbirds and Stevie Ray Vaughan's Double Trouble and Roomful of Blues, and Rolling Stone gave this album, which was produced by Jerry Wexler and Glen Frey, four stars. I sort of remember that review, and I remember the LP cover, on which Lou Ann looks pretty enough, but I don't remember the music. She's got a fairly rich, husky voice that she doesn't do anything partiularly interesting with. There's lots of bluesish songs of various tempos which I assume had been done by other people years before Lou Ann. "The Sudden Stop" seems like an okay ballad with a musical onomatopoeia in it where Lou Ann suddenly stops singing whilst talking about somebody suddenly stopping caring about her after she cheats on him. Or something. One of the other songs has a hint of synthesized percussion; more of that would have helped. It's not clear to me what people heard in this LP otherwise. (Christgau gave it a C+, which sounds about right):

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=lou+ann+barton

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago)

Just posted this on the chitlin circuit thread:

Pretty good EP from a lady from Tennessee, though the best part of it might be the Bohannon/DJ Hollywood style proto-raps done by some guy at the start and end of her "Southern Soul Picnic," which is my favorite of the three songs even if "bring your own BYOB" is a redundant line (sort of like "ATM machine"). "Telling It Like It Is" has a decent proto-disco groove to it under Miz B saying the other woman might get his honey but Miz B will still get his money. Actually found the warning song "Jody's 1st Cousin" somewhat disappointing, but that may just be because Jody songs get my hopes up:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/mizbtunes

xhuxk, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago)

Went and bought B&R's Comin' To Your City to A/B with Between Raising Hell etc and found I still like the new one more. Not coming to B&R first from the so-called "rap," crippled midget as prop fetish and novelty aspects of the act, the second didn't sound radical in terms of anything -- TO ME --per se. Found the freak parade bouncing-ball routine whimsical, always have liked the title tune, Soul Shaker, the ragtime Filthy Rich (a lot) and almost everything else at least a bit, though.

The new one isn't mastered as loud. Didn't put it in my louderizer measurer but it isn't as hard limited, which befits the first few tunes.

I thought B&R could have easily tossed the John Legend intro to Eternity which is a pussy-footing waste of time before getting to the actual number. That's minor, though. I take the CD out when it gets to the AC/DC cover.

When "Lost in the Moment" and the title tune or stripped of the production for the short live DVD that comes with the retail piece, they still sound great.

Gorge, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

I just loved that Lee Ann Barton album when it first came out. But I think you're probably right that she doesn't do that much, as a stylist, with the attractive voice she has. I was possibly just deeply in lust at the time. She and Martha Davis were my two early-'80s femme fatale crushes.

On "one eyed cat peeping in a sea food store": I didn't even remember that that appeared on a Rodney Crowell album--I have to pick up that reissue. But it comes from "Shake, Rattle and Roll." Some Googling produced this amusing aside about the filth:

"'"Shake, Rattle and Roll' was a big R&B hit and was covered by the then-country group Bill Haley and the Comets. The suggestive lyrics of the song were changed by Haley for the white market, although the most risque line in the song, 'I'm like a one-eyed cat peeping in a sea food store,' wasn't changed because Haley didn't know what the line meant."

Willman, Monday, 16 July 2007 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

"Old Pipeliner," which I always seem to like no matter who does it (favorite version I've heard might be the one I used to own on LP by forgotten '80s country family band the Whites), though I don't think I've ever heard the original, if there is one. (Written by Ray King and Tommy Hill; who are they again? Is the song from the actual rockabilly era, or earlier, or later?)

It was a hit for Red Sovine around the time of the Beatles' first US hits, probably mid-'64. I believe, on Starday or Starday/King or King. That's the version I know. There's Moon Mullican's "Pipleliner Blues," which is from the '50s. Your theory, Xxk, about Crowell and Gill: I would think Rodney is taken more seriously by people, as he's made various political statements and did that one, The Outsider, where he goes after Mammon pretty smartly I suppose. Whereas, Vince Gill seems more like he just likes to play golf and look at dirty pictures. about the same level of being overrated but different levels of pretension. they're both pretty overrated. Lou Ann Barton, you know I always kind of got her confused with Marcia Ball; the Lou Ann record, was that some kind of notoriously underwhelming Jerry Wexler pet project of making another great smoky soul record by a woman? She was all right looking, pretty sexy if I remember; but I remember I had friends who said the exact same thing about Marcia Ball, who I think has the better name.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 16 July 2007 02:50 (seventeen years ago)

plus, Marcia played the piano, too.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 16 July 2007 02:52 (seventeen years ago)

Tommy Hill, who co-wrote "Old Pipeliner," was sort of a Nashville rockabilly guy, a songwriter who worked for Starday Records in Madison, Tenn. He recorded with Elvis and he wrote "Teddy Bear" for Red Sovine. I think he was originally from Texas. Came up to Nashville and worked with Ray Price for a while, in the '50s, and toured with Buddy Holly. He also helped start Stop Records, for whom Johnny Bush recorded his best stuff. (By the way, finally tracked down and got a CD copy of the pretty hard-to-find Johnny Bush Stop record, Sound of a Heartache, '67 featuring Jerry Reed on guitar and Buddy Emmons on steel, one of the classic great country albums of all time.)

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 16 July 2007 03:02 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, Lou Ann looks sexy on the CD cover, at least. Not sure about otherwise. Best track, I just remembered, is probably her cover of "Brand New Lover" -- Marshall Crenshaw's, unfortunately, not Dead Or Alive's, which didn't exist yet, but she does Crenshaw's fine, maybe even better than he did, for all I know. Still not as good as Pat Benatar covering John Cougar's "I Need a Lover" on her own way more entertaining (and way more sexy) debut LP.

Thanks for all that historical context, Chris and Edd; I've definitely heard that Bill Haley story before. And I think "Old Pipeliner" and "Pipeliner Blues" may well be basically the same song under two different titles -- with slight variations, no doubt.

So Edd, who put out that Sarah Borges record? I want to hear it now. Peeped her myspace page, and the cover looked familiar, though, so maybe I got sent one, gave it a cursory listen, was less than impressed (vaguely remember thinking more "NPR folk" than "pub-rockabilly"), and it's out in a box in my hallway already. I'll have to go out there and hunt.

Still don't know if I've ever heard Area Code 215 (not even "Stone Fox Chase"), but this has always made me wanna (and it might not be a complete list):

http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=area+code+615&type=0

And Don, I got the Jason Isbel you sent; thanks! (Already had a copy of Schultze Gets The Blues -- posted about it upthread, in fact -- but I'll pass the burn onto somebody who might like it.)

xhuxk, Monday, 16 July 2007 11:03 (seventeen years ago)

To wit:

And also also listening to the newly released soundtrack to the apparent circa 2003 German movie Schulze Gets The Blues, which compiles all kinds oof apparently unknown acts (Bobby Jones Czech Band! Jackie Callier & the Cajun Cousins! Brachstedter Musikanten! Zydeco Force! Chorgenmeinschaft 'Sang & Klang' Angerdorf! and draws the most explicit connections between
polkas-and-oompahs and zydecos-and-cajuns of any album I'm aware of; I can't find a track listing on line, but these pictures describe the mood nicely:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=schultze+gets+the+blues&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2

-- xhuxk, Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:04 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Link

Plot summary:

"Schultze is a retired lignite miner living in an East German village and a passionate Polka musician on his accordion. One night he listens to a Zydeco tune in the radio, which changes his taste of music radically. Notwithstanding his complete ignorance of the English language he starts a trip into the heart of the Zydeco; to Louisana"
-- xhuxk, Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:33 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Link

xhuxk, Monday, 16 July 2007 11:06 (seventeen years ago)

Oops, Area Code 615 I meant. (215 is Pennsylvania!)

xhuxk, Monday, 16 July 2007 11:17 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't played it in a couple of months, but the Sarah Borges album struck me as fun, if ultimately underwhelming. It's almost as much the kind of female-fronted power-pop band I might have seen and enjoyed at the Whisky in 1981 as it is a roots-rock thing. I do remember one song that really annoyed me, though--a lament where she sings a chorus that goes something like "I'm the one they want to dance with but never the one they want to take home." As if she were singing about being somebody guys will sleep with but not marry--but instead, she really seems to be saying she looks good enough to dance with but not good enough to sleep with. And I'm thinking, Sarah, sweetheart, that bar has got to be lower than you think it is. Maybe I was misunderstanding it somehow?

All right, here is my choice for the most annoying commercial country single of the year so far. It's Halfway to Hazard's "Daisy," coproduced by Tim McGraw. The lyrical hook of the song is that the title woman "must bean angel, because she loves the hell out of me." First that phrase is used in the sexual sense, then in the religious sense, and finally in the literal sense. You see, the narrator's wife actually dies in childbirth, and then he names their daughter "Daisy," as well. If this were some gothic period piece, okay. But is it at all common for women to die in childbirth in 21st century America, other than to fulfill the mawkish needs of a shitty country song? Perhaps it is. But if my wife dies in childbirth, please remind me not to name our daughter after her, especially if I'm still busy having erotic reveries about her late mother.

These are my Song Complaints for the day.

Willman, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:50 (seventeen years ago)

A guy I know who runs a used record store in Philly where a few copies of the Borges album have shown up says only its first song struck him as rockabilly per se', though he liked the rest of it too. Said its music reminded him of NRBQ. I still want to hear it, though I'll be surprised if I wind up loving it.

Meanwhile, am not loving the Jason Isbell album so far. Man, the guy just sounds dreary and comatose to me -- and I know, I know, he lost his wife and his band; I should feel sorry for him, and I do I guess, but that doesn't make me want to hear him mumble. I get the idea he's going for a Neil Young thing, but he doesn't seem to have either a singing voice or melodies beautiful enough to pull it off, and so far the rest seems quiet and bleh. How many times, and how close, do I have to listen to "Dress Blues" before its supposedly genius lyric grabs me (when Tom T Hall's new "A Hero In Harlan," which I gather has a similar plotline, grabbed me the first time out)? I do like how the guitars in "Brand New Kind Of Actress" build up in a way that reminds me of the band Television, but other than that I'm actively disliking this thing. But I'll keep trying; maybe after a few listens under my belt, it'll sink in.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:23 (seventeen years ago)

Hmm..."Shotgun Wedding" is a bit more upbeat, I guess, in a late Replacements/solo Westerberg semi-powerpop way. I tend to find late Replacements/solo Westerberg irritating, in general, but this is okay. Can't stand "The Devil Is My Running Mate" though.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:53 (seventeen years ago)

As for Merle, recall that Chicago Wind had a fair amount of filler, even notebook-page stuff he just throws out there, but that I also admire Merle's plain old ornery casualness.

Actually, the only album of Merle's '00s comeback that I've thought was really worth playing all the way through was Like Never Before, from 2003. The one before that -- If I Could Only Fly in 2000, the one that scored in the Pazz & Jop poll -- tuckered out pretty quickly after "Wishing All These Old Things Were New," the song about "doing a line" that it opened with, as I recall. So my copy of that's already in the storage bin. Chicago Wind never really clicked for me in the first place.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, we've batted this one back and forth before, Xhuxk, on Merle. I dunno, I find If I Could excessively listenable, myself, really even-handed, just right.

I'm a fan of the Sarah Borges record. Partly because she does Wanda Jackson-style slightly aggrieved "rockabilly" and "blues" better than anyone I've heard do it in a long time, partly because she, is my opinion, a really fine singer who shows just as much vulnerability as required, and partly because I think the band really does it up, esp. the guitarist, Mike Castellana; there's an energy to this record that doesn't let up, and I think it just sounds fresh, no NRBQ boppin-mama bullshit or fake-country or retro. And sure, she has great taste, picks good songs, too, which doesn't hurt. To me, she sounds like a person with an actual sense of humor and of, yeah, rock history or something, but way juicier than Dave Edmunds, you know, or even Elizabeth McQueen (whose record I loved). It's on Sugar Hill, by the way; she apparently came to Nashville to play at the Americana Festival and then came back and impressed the folks at the label enough to sign her; she's got a CD out on a small label, I think it's called Blue Corn, that I haven't heard yet.

the plot summary--Those Ol' Lignite Miner Blues, perhaps done Moon Mullican-style--sounds fantastic! I haven't heard the Isbell. But the various Truckers who back up Bettye LaVette on her new one, they did a good thing: by far, her best record ever, no blues-journeywoman shit here, just about like hearing some (admittedly) sorta second-tier jazz singer making an Unadorned Statement, but the record's clichés sit there proud to be clichés, and they do achieve real flow with simple materials, so I like it very much.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago)

I'm also not much liking the new Isbell--serious case of the mid-tempo blues and, with the exception of the terrific "Brand New Kind of Actress" ("put the piece away, put the piece away, put the piece away" is nearly as great as JB's "please, please, please"), very unhooky. The two, I think it's two, anti-war tunes have some force, but they're light years from "Decoration Day." C+ (docked a grade for bad drum sound).

Roy Kasten, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago)

Aren't country songwriters aware of the multiplicity of fine pre-prepared foods available to the recently kicked-out bachelor on the prowl, as described in Sarah Johns' "The One in the Middle"? The song mentions "TV dinners," but what about that Zatarains' pre-packaged, microwaveable (in a minute flat) Jambalaya With Sausage? They also have a blackened chicken one but not enough chicken. The varieties of frozen pizza are endless; those complete meals you heat up, with some water, in a big pan, usually pasta dishes, are also good. There are a million of them and I don't know how "TV dinners" is still allowed in a popular song of this era; I mean everyone I know is eating, like, New York-style Pita Chips (Sea Salt) and artichoke-garlic hummous. The bachelors I know, that is, some of whom are sulking away sans chick.

Anyway, "One in the Middle" is pretty cool, on Johns' Big Love in a Small Town. She used to clean tour buses--says you found the damndest things on them. She has a high, clean and somewhat hysterical voice. But "Middle" starts out with a real glam, Marc Bolan-style riff and these great "ba do do dow, da-dow, da dow-dow" vocals that remind me of those cat choruses, on garbage cans, in old cartoons, pining away for a thrown-out TV dinner, no doubt. The song mentions "skank" and rocks out, sorta. The vocals dip in and out, and it's a pretty convincing song about hand gestures. Good. The other interesting one is the last song, "It's Hard to Be a Girl (In a Young Man's World)," which finds Sarah so horny that she can't even leave a message. Big strings, lush chord changes, stiff upper lip. "I don't want to appear too forward," she begins, and she seems overly concerned with her own identity as a woman throughout, as on "When Do I Get to Be a Woman" and the next one, "If You Could Hold Your Woman" (not in subtitle: like you hold your whiskey).

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 02:41 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, that Sarah Johns looked intriguing. I need to get to that, Travis Tritt, Terri Clark which I guess isn't coming out, Stephen Cochran whoever he is...

As for Jason Isbell, I'm not even sure what its second war song is ("Down in the Hole" or "In A Razor Town," which just sound dead in the water? The lounge schmaltz Muscle Shoals attempt "Hurricanes and Handgrenades"?). "Dress Blues" has okay lyrics if you concentrate really hard on them, but Tom T Hall and Richard Thompson have both written and recorded way more compelling songs about boys in the war this year, and their war songs don't waltz at such funereal tempos that they seem to last eight minutes when they really only last four; anyway, if a livelier singer with an actual rhythm section covered "Dress Blues" and made it sound like something more than a demo, I might even like it. As is, the only track I'm really enjoying on the Isbell album, I think, is "Try," with its Crazy Horse guitars (and a lyric asking men how they deal with women that connects right away); even "Brand New Kind of Actress" is no great shakes until the very end. The prefab purism pop of "Shotgun Wedding" -- as much Ryan Adams or Matthew Sweet as late Westerberg, probably -- wound up getting on my nerves. Beyond that, the set strikes me as even more uneven and less fun than the last couple DBTs.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago)

Terri Clark isn't coming out until next year.

Spencer Moore's Spencer Moore arrived yesterday. On the same label--Tompkins Square--that released Charlie Louvin. Moore is 8 years older than Louvin, from northwestern North Carolina, and apparently performed some with the Carter Family in the late '30s. Alan Lomax recorded a few songs of Moore's in the '50s, but this is Moore's first record. He sounds pretty spry on guitar and does stuff like "Cumberland Gap" which actually sounds pretty weird, weird guitar stuff happening that I like. Rough-voiced but charming and some really harsh material from god knows where like "The Lawson Family Murder."

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

the relentlessly logical "I Drink"

Is this the Mary Gauthier song (also covered by Blake Shelton, though I'm still waiting for Lindsay Lohan to do it justice)? If so, is indeed relentlessly logical and is the best song on the two Gauthier albums I've heard. I think upthread I said that Gauthier oversings ridiculously, doing the abyss-is-in-my-throat thing, Vincent Price parodying Patti Smith, but that now on the new album where she soft-pedals the anguish I discover I miss it, want her to chomp down harder on the scenery.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago)

Listening to Sarah Borges on her MySpace. I think I agree with Chris, has the feel of early '80s power pop w/ trad-grit leanings. On "The Day We Met" she seems to be pushing hard through the nasal passages in a way that sounds searing rather than snotty - reminds me of Rihanna a bit, though not nearly as powerful. Like a lot of early '80s power pop the music is lacking a killer instinct, too happy in its home in the pleasant bar light - but that vocal pressure promises something stronger, and I wonder what she'd be like with a band that gave her more than an amiable clatter. I do like this, and I understand Edd's comparing her to Elizabeth McQueen: they both have a touching "nice girl who wishes she were wilder" feel. 'Cept it'd be even more touching if the music had more propulsion. I'm thinking of two nice girls Aly & A.J. and the force they get out of their studio slickness: they've got their gloss and still manage to run roughshod across the beats.

On her MySpace Borges describes the music as "Cambridge no-wave hard-honk. Yeah!" I don't know what she thinks is no wave about this - I hear how her nasal passages could lend themselves to skronk, but these tracks sound skronk free.

My guess is she's someone who could really rip it live, and I see she's playing tonight here in Denver. But I've already got plans.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:01 (seventeen years ago)

Jack Ingram "This Is It:" If Bryan Adams isn't making records I like anymore, I might as well do one. Not a bad ambition to have.

"Love You," written by a Jay Knowles and a Trent Summer sounds like it was written by a Jim Vallence. Good way to sneak a curse into play although they ought to play it more on GAC and CMT. As it is, "Measure of a Man," which is fine if lachrymose and not grinding or rollicking like the former, gets a bit more time.

Actually, this album only seems mildly country as compared to true blue singer/songwriter and pop rock. "Great Divide" is paean to Texas flatland, friday night football, the land of his people, real people just like you and I, everybody's dirty, the Mexicans work the fields and the sky goes on forever. Wave the flag to the arching slide and lap steel solos. Wow, sounds nice enough but really piles it high.

Needs a summer blockbuster to attach "Love You" or "Measure of a Man" starring Kevin Costner and Ashton Kutcher in a buddy pic where Kutcher is becoming the man Costner used to be. This was done, but in Alaska, so it tanked whereas if it had been set in Texas, it might have flown.

Believe it or not, I like this record.

Gorge, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago)

Store bought copy of Keith Urban's Love, Pain etc tried to kill my CD/DVD drive. It contains some manner of actively or passively malicious copyright defending technology that made the drive do things it wasn't supposed to. While not having time or inclination to inspect it at length, if let in a drive like mine, it would damage it, which is something of a personal first. I don't expect my CDs to try and bite me.

Worked fine in the car stereo so it's obviously aimed at stuff which can connect to the Internet.

Probably doesn't misbehave obviously for everyone, but it will on certain equipment. If you have a copy and it works in your PC, I still wouldn't trust it. That just possibly means something was put into your system maliciously without your hardware making groaning sufficiently for you to notice it.

Gorge, Friday, 20 July 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

From the metal thread; I'm sure these guys have crossed over to a few Montgomery Gentry fans by now (plus, I think they drive a pickup truck in some video I saw once):

And yeah, I mentioned Nickelback. Somehow a copy of All The Right Reasons mysteriously fell into my lap this week -- an album which I believe has sold something like 5.9 million copies so far and is at something like #12 on Billboard's album chart after something like 93 weeks, and which an Internet search suggests has spawned something like seven hit singles (or "airplay tracks", or whatever -- "Photograph," "Animal," "Far Away," "Savin' Me," "If Everyone Cared," "Rockstar," "Side Of a Bullet" -- only a couple if which I remotely recognized, but then again I almost never listen to the radio these days, and even if I did I seriously doubt I'd ever brave putting on a commercial "active rock" station.) Anyway, out of curiosity and/or professional responsibilty, I decided to play the darn thing, having never consciously listened to Nickelback before in my life. And my verdict is: I don't totally hate it. Just most of it. Favorite cut is undoubtedly "Photograph," the power ballad, which is no Def Leppard but which is still about yearning for the small town arcade and high school the singer (whose old self would hate him now) says he never graduated from and wonders if they'd let him back in; really, a country-rock guy like Jack Ingram (who redid Hinder's "Lips Of An Angel" and made me like it) should cover this in a less plodding way, and it might sound really good. I also don't hate "Animals," which is probably the least plodding song on the album (actually kind of speedy), and also turns out to be about, uh, getting a blowjob while driving a car fast ("Got your head between your knees/Got both hands on the wheel," jeesh). And "Next Contestant," which I'm kind of surprised isn't a "hit" since it's pretty catchy in a Stabbing Westward bubblegum-Nine Inch Nails way, has the singer daring guys to hit on his girlfriend again so he can beat them up, what an asshole. "Rockstar," a very vaguely Southern rock midetempo, actually tries to have a sense of humor about wanting to be a rock star (with, you know, drug dealers on speed dail, getting washed up singers to write all the songs, staying skinny because you never eat) but of course Chad Kroeger moans it with no sense of humor at all -- maybe I'd like it okay if Joe Walsh sang it. (He could even get the Shop Boys to back him up, maybe). And "Someone That You're With" is clearly about being jealous of the guy she's with, duh. Honestly, in total, the topics of the songs are pretty easy to figure out most of the time, which does count for something. But most of the rest is the expected constipated bleh -- "loud mush," as Chris Cook once called Pearl Jam, but in a fifth or sixth generation version. (I was surprised to note on AMG that Nickelback have a bunch of albums, too -- Shows how much I've paid attention to them over the years; for all I knew, this could've been their debut record. As is, though, it almost counts as a Greatest Hits.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 July 2007 13:25 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, her head is between Chad's knees, not her own.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 July 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

And speaking of Jack Ingram, I went back to his album after George mentioned it, and yeah, this hadn't occured to me myself, but his '80s Bryan Adams analogy is dead on -- Jack even kind of looks like '80s Bryan on the album cover (which, as George suggested in an email, along with Keith Urban's CD cover are clearly pinup posters meant for the ladies. Showed both CD covers to Lalena, and she said yeah, their disheveled rugged handsome five-o'clock-shadow faces are shown really close up, teen-magazine style, so you can kiss them if said urge might arise. Now I'm wondering if my youngest sister Emily the high school math teacher, who totally loved Adams/Cougar rock growing up in Michigan in the '80s, would like Ingram or Urban if she heard them, or maybe if she already does; she seems like she's basically the target audience for such stuff. Maybe I'll give her copies for Christmas.) Anyway, I'm now loving a whole bunch of cuts on the Ingram in an Adams Reckless meets early Tom Petty kind of way: "Measure Of A Man," "Love You," "Easy as 1,2,3 (Part II)," "Great Divide," the Hinder cover. Album's way uneven beyond those, but the more midtempo semi-ballads aren't bad, and I like the horn parts in "All I Can Do," and consistency is overrated anyway -- This is one of the most playable country albums I've heard this year, no question.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 July 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

I definitely believe majors would benefit from two-pronged art for Urban and Igram, etc. One cover for guys, with dudes holding guitars or maybe just a photo of Jack or Keith in a superpickup truck. (Igram obviously has product placement for one in the video for "Love You.") The cover they usually go with, the face shot for the ladies to get twisted up over, for girls. I bet they'd squeeze more walk-in sales out the stuff, guys being sometimes put off imagining they'll be thought of as sissies or poofs if seen reaching for it. Urban tries to throw in a few cues with photo of him with old Marshall amp and his favorite geetar inside, but still.

Jason Aldean skirts this by just being slightly pug-ugly and born with a naturally belligerent-looking visage. 'Course, he's a lot more boring, too. Doesn't seem to vary from the legs akimbo, shove the big acoustic guitar out in the air stance for his video singles, which always sound cut from the same rhythm tracks to me.

Gorge, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

The guy whose imminent album I'm surprised to determine is geared largely to women (though he probably always had a certain beefcake appeal about him, and I can see why he might decide to emphasize that in the Trace Adkins era) is Travis Tritt. Most audacious cut on The Storm (an album which by the way I believe Randy Jackson is said to have played a major role on) is "Rub Off On Me," borderline porn-for-housewives that I swear might as well really be called "Rub One Out On Me," since that's what it seems to me about; that parody boy band from a few years ago 2Gether would be very impressed. It's this sort of slow funk bump-and-grinder (funkier than the also soul-sistered funk-flirting single "You Never Take Me Dancing," to my ears) where Travis tells this woman to get it off her chest, and at the end the music just drops out for a while to a spare beat and r&b singers repeatedly chanting the title over and over again -- takes its time finishing, in other words. The other songs I really like on the album are the Skynyrd/CDB-style swing-funk two-step (which namedrops "Gimme Three Steps") "High Time For Gettin' Down," plus somewhere between two and four slow intense Southern rock bluesers: cheating in the next room song "The Pressure Is On" (which opens with a pastoral Led Zeppelin lick); kicked out of the house song (his clothes are thrown all over the room and his credit cards are gone and so is she and his wallet's in the yard) "Should've Listened" (but instead like he learned from his Daddy everything she said went in one ear and out the other and now he's paying for it), and maybe "The Storm" and "Somehow, Somewhere, Someway." "Something Stronger Than Me" (= Jesus or liquor) is an okay gospely thing; "Doesn't The Good Outweight The Bad" is a boogie kept fairly light with some tra-la-las, and most of the rest (the stuff that doesn't grab me) is sentimental stuff for the ladies. But all in all, better than I expected.

Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure that my favorite track on recent Nashville residents the White Stripes' dullest album Icky Thump is the lovely fake Scottish highland folk with bagpipes thing "Prickly Thorn, But Sweetly Worn." Also kind of like the fake Spanish bullfight folk with horns thing "Conquest," plus "Icky Thump," "Rag And Bone," the Leo Sayer tribute "Effect And Cause," plus assorted riffs here and there remiscent of Led Zeppelin. So now I can file it, and I will probably never put it on again.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 July 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

Hey, where did everybody go? (Including me, for the most part?) Anyway, my favorite track by far on Sarah Johns's Big Love In A Small Town is "He Hates Me," where she meets a perfect guy and stalks him because his big brown eyes drive her crazy and he winds up getting a restraining order. Hilarious, and super catchy. Second favorite, surprise surprise, is a slow one -- "It's Hard To Be A Girl (In A Young Man's World)," mentioned by Edd above, though Edd says she's too horny to leave a message and I thought what happened is she does leave a message so if he hasn't got her message by now (note double meaning) he's not calling back. "The One In The Middle" is about flipping some deserving person the bird, but mainly about the acapella twangbar imitations repeatedly done by a male voice who sounds like he should be in an '80s L.A. glam-sleaze-metal band. (Edd hears T. Rex in its opening part, which I don't really but who I'm sure many glam-sleazers were familiar with). And "When Do I Get To Be A Woman" is her working-woman song, and in "Touch Me" (in which she requests kissing upon every inch of her body, not that she names said inches per se') she's horny for sure, and in "That's Just Me Getting Over You" (another fave) she's on the rebound from you and hence leading on other guysbut not following through, and "Big Love in A Small Town" which is not about polygamy with John Cougar in Utah but rather about raising beans and babies in the boonies where you can see the city lights in the distance (so they must not be too far out in exurbia, right?) is a likeable if generic sounding two-beat, and "Muddy Water" is what Kentucky daughters get baptized in, if I'm recalling the words right. (Could be Tennessee.) Also, in the great tradition of Kellie Pickler (and Shania Twain I bet), I'm pretty sure a couple lines show up somewhere about shopping for shoes. So: good album.

And meanwhile, Mindy McCready's having a bad week:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/ap_en_ce/people_mindy_mccready

xhuxk, Thursday, 26 July 2007 11:49 (seventeen years ago)

Haven't posted here in a while, but have been continuing to absorb country music lately. I'll post brief thoughts below:

Charlie Rich - Behind Closed Doors a classic, of course, and really deserved. What a great album, I feel like a chump for not listening to it earlier. What's worth checking out beyond this album?

Blake Shelton - 2nd best country album of the year, after Miranda, and I do even like the ballads. "The More I Drink" is probably my favorite track.

Sara Evans - "As If". No discussion of this here? I've always really enjoyed Sara Evans' singles (and "Suds in a Bucket" is a classic), so I'm really looking forward to the greatest hits collection. I enjoy this song, but it's below her best work. Very sunny and fun. Still one of my 10 or so favorite country singles of the year to this point.

Keith Urban - Really great! I really enjoy his latest album, and he's been a pretty solid singles artist all along, apparently.

Greg Fanoe, Thursday, 26 July 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

hey, I've been catching up on work and doing some last-minute things that ought to turn out pretty interesting. I'll have to listen to Johns again but I thought she couldn't bring herself to leave a message. she does sound horny, of which I approve. as for Tritt, I think he's kind of actually underrated, for his '90s stuff. listening to Jim Dickinson's latest, Killers from Space, which is good; great version of Doug Sahm's "Texas Me" leading off, Chris Scruggs guesting on guitar, and many country-flavored, hoarse moments...

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 26 July 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago)

Greg, I've heard a little of the Charlie Rich catalog and I want to hear a lot more. I highly recommend the two albums he did in the early '60s for Smash/Mercury, which I'd basically call "white soul" (well, that's what John Morthland called them).

Keith Urban - What I've heard of his stuff up to last year's album (which I've not heard, but the word on these threads is that it's real good throughout) has been hit or miss, with his guitar playing usually having more bite than his singing. The playing reminds me a bit of Lindsey Buckingham on Urban's breakout hit, "Somebody Like You," which topped the country charts for eight weeks in 2002 (and which I'm listening to right now). A piece of info that will interest you about that song: the songwriting credits are Keith Urban, John Shanks.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 27 July 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

I think there was discussion here earlier in the year of a new Charlie Rich comp, but I haven't seen it in the stores yet. I recently picked up his "Complete Singles Plus, The Sun Years 1958-1963" which is pretty great, though doesn't sound anything like "Behind Closed Doors."

mulla atari, Saturday, 28 July 2007 11:08 (seventeen years ago)

I guess the comp I'm talking about is the two disc The Essential Charlie Rich though I can't figure out if its a re-release of the 1997 album of the same name, or when or if it was released this year.

mulla atari, Saturday, 28 July 2007 11:18 (seventeen years ago)

Lots and lots about Charlie Rich upthread, and on last year's thread too I believe. And yeah, judging from the track listing, the new Essentials appears to be a repackage of a previous reissue (mentioned by Roy below) that I've never seen.

Anyway, here's just a little of what's up there; if you do a search, you'll find plenty more:

CHUCK:
"Since I Fell For You" by Charlie Rich on now: soul music. Third to last track on new two-CD *Essential* set, which is the best album I've heard in 2007 by far if reissues count. This is going to sound completely nuts, but I actually think the opener "Lonely Weekends" is one of my *least* favorite songs on this thing; it's totally great, but strikes me (is this idiotic?) as a fairly blatant Elvis rip, where Charlie doesn't really seem to develop his own real vocal personality until a few songs in. I guess what I'm saying is that, judging from this collection, I prefer him doing soul, blues, jazz (even "Pictures and Paintings," on now, which people on the ILM thread seemed to have mixed feelings about), countrypolitan, maybe even gospel, than rockabilly. In general anyway. Or maybe I just like him doing grown-up music more than teen music. Not that "Lonely Weekends" is (obviously) necessarily a teen song. Anyway, I could go on and on. Didn't notice til today that "I Washed My Hands in Muddy Water" is about breaking out of prison. Wonder what is wrong with Charlie's baby (and in turn Charlie) in "When Something's Is Wrong With My Baby" (am I confusing things, or did Marsh or Marcus or somebody say this was a sexual dysfunction song once? Could be.) Wonder if anybody put "River, Stay Away From My Door" on any Katrina playlists. Wonder if there are countrypolitan-hating purists stupid enough to hate "Behind Closed Doors" and "The Most Beautiful Girl." Etc. But the song that really gave me a quiet storm's worth of chills today was "Nice 'N' Easy." which I seemed to recall somewhere deep in my subconscious hearing ages ago, but I'm not sure where (okay, it was on a Charlie CD than Edd burned for me last year, but why do I feel it was something more than that? Like I heard it as a kid or something? Whitburn tells me it did not cross over pop.) Anyway, even more than lots of stuff here, it is what Alan Jackson and Toby Keith want to be, I think.

ROY:
Is this Charlie Rich Essential different from the 2 disc on Columbia/Legacy: Feel Like Going Home which came out in 97? Amazon and Allmusic don't list any new Essentials... Also, you're not completely nuts about "Lonely Weekend" sounding like Elvis; he was tagged with the Elvis soundalike thing for a very little
while. Didn't take long to leave that in the dust. You gotta get the Complete Smash Sessions, which documents how he did that most awesomely.

Anyway, my copy of The Essential clearly says copyright 2007 Sony BMG Entertainment on the back, though that doesn't mean it ever actually wound up in retail outlets I guess. Follows that with "Compilation 1997," more evidence that it repackages an earlier catalog title. Label is Epic/Legacy now, though.

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 July 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago)

I'm in Houston this weekend, by the way, for the better half's high school reunion. "Happy hour" last night was at a joint called the Firehouse Saloon, where an okay country-rock band (didn't catch their name; they weren't that good) started playing toward the end. On the way out the door I picked up a couple free newsprint publications -- really like the fanzine-sized (23 pages, including eight or so pages of surprisingly coherent 250-to-300-word album reviews) Country Standard Time; they really tear into the Bon Jovi album, like the first half but not the seocond of the Big N Rich (though they overrate the AC/DC cover); like the Cowboy Troy okay but say it's not really country; include the new Graham Parker album among their reviews; etc. Things I learned: (1) Gary Allan has a greatest hits CD out (I should hear that, since I don't really know his first few albums, before the last three or so, very well); (2) Dale Watson has an apparent outtakes-covers collection called The Little Darlin Sessions out on Koch; (3) Merle Haggard has a different new album (six new songs and six rerecordings of old ones) out through Cracker Barrel as well as his bluegrass thing; (4) The Greencards consist of two Australians and one Brit. So here's the website:

http://www.countrystandardtime.com/countrymusic.asp

Also picked up Best In Texas Music Magazine: Way less coherent, especially the useless and barely literate (sub-publicity-release) review page, but there's an intriguing two-page feature about Stillwater, Oklahoma's "Red Dirt music" scene, which I'd never heard of before. Draws a trajectory from Bob Wills in Tulsa through a self-released 1972 album called Moses Live by future Tractors lead guy Steve Ripley through the Great Divide (who I don't remember, but who apparently charted with a couple country-rock tunes in the mid '90s) and Garth Brooks and on through to Cross Canadian Ragweed (who have have never sounded as good as I wish they did.) The article is by one John Wooley, who writes that "Red Dirt Music is a little like Darwinian evolution or the Epstein-Barr virus -- some poeple simply refuse to believe it exists." Interesting, huh?

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 July 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago)

Their website, but I'm not seeing that Red Dirt piece:

http://bestintexasonline.com/

xhuxk, Saturday, 28 July 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

this afternoon, on the dread NPR (All Things Considered the program), heard Smokey Hormel's big plain plains voice delivering the Brazilian chesnut "Asa Branca," in English. He didn't sound anything but country, and that fit perfectly. He was with this group, Forro After Dark, who I didn't hear much of otherwise (see 'em in New Yorker listings sometimes). But that reminded me of a great comp, Forro Etc., one of the best in the Brazil Classics series. Forro, from "For All," apparently, is one of the most cosmopolitan Brazilian styles, but it's also mainstream country, mainstream-with-a-regional-identity, as Bob Wills, Carter Family etc. once were,starting about the same time as forro pioneers (although they may well have a more Burbtown variant now)Sounds "Latin," meaning Spanish as well as Portuguese, but also African, French, English. Easy to visualize well-fed couples, married and single, dancing at harvest and in spring; sun, moon, birds, clouds, trees, horsies, cows, tractors, crops dancing too (kids and other critters running though, as the percussion gets more impulsive at times)Translated lyrics read great, though not nec. to enjoy. Somewhere I've got a tape from an Afropop Worldwide broadcast (more Public Radio, look out!), with Ned Sublette and Brazilain musos talking and playing records, telling the Forro story up to that point (it gets a bit techno about then, at least some artists do)( this episode is prob archived on the site, or somewhere else online)

dow, Sunday, 29 July 2007 05:43 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, "regional identity," not just "image," from when the performers and their audiences mostly lived and worked in the areas they were associated with, but "a little travelin' music," as Bob Wills would call it, was part of the appeal too (Nobody's stuck out here, could head out if we wanted to, and maybe we will sometime; meanwhile we got radios, with dials on 'em, for mixing and drinking and thinking a bit, for dancing around, anyway)

dow, Sunday, 29 July 2007 05:57 (seventeen years ago)

Totally maudlin song that seems to get played as much as every other song put together on the country radio station (or at least one of the country radio stations, if there's more than one) in Houston right now: "Tough" by Craig Morgan. I'm already sick of it, but then again maybe I haven't been listening to it very closely; just checked its lyrics on line, and had no idea it was a husband singing about his wife's bout with breast cancer.

Second to last song (and only recent song) played at Lalena's high school reunion in Houston last night (right before the closing "Rio" by Duran Duran): "Cupid Shuffle" by Cupid. Interesting. I had no idea that it was a line dance; shows what I know. Turns out it's the new "Electric Boogie," judging from all the people who got up there for it. Is that happening nationwide? (Also weird: Music played at the happy hour Friday night was all country, but at the reunion itself, not a single country song was played. Lots of new wavish '80s MTV videos at first, and then when the DJ came on, lots of mostly '80s funk and r&b and pop hip-hop (Michael Jackson, Salt N Pepa, Beastie Boys, Digital Underground, Wild Cherry, Prince, the Time, etc. Also "Pour Some Sugar On Me" and Love Shack" and "You Shook Me All Night Long," and "Yeah!" by Lil Jon and Usher.)

But in the reunion directory, where alumni talk about their "favorite 1987 performer and song" then "favorite 2007 performer and song," lots of their tastes clearly turned in a more country direction in the past 20 years.

xhuxk, Sunday, 29 July 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago)

I'd say that's because they perceive it to be where mainstream classic rock went, particularly if they watch any of the county music video channels on cable. Twentysome years ago the Keith Urban and Jack Ingram CDs would have been in the undifferentiated rock section in record stores.

I saw the Hinder record with Lips Of an Angel on it in BestBuy and it was in the rock section. But I was suspicious from the pic that they weren't as good as Jack Ingram or as efficiently rocking and globally tuneful and passed on the spec buy. Are they any good beside the one song?

Gorge, Sunday, 29 July 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

Bon Jovi's record company, incidentally, bought a full page ad for the album in the LA Times about a month ago. Which is about when I stopped listening to it. Kept subdividing it into tunes I liked, coming up with less and less. And I don't like the Make a Memory thing at all. Mystifyingly, it is lways on the music vid channels

Gorge, Sunday, 29 July 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago)

I'm getting thru the 4 discs of Vee-Jay: The Definitive Collection before turning to the new Van Zant and this Tracy Nelson record. The blues stuff I mostly knew on the Vee-Jay is great, Jimmy Reed and Elmore James and Snooky Pryor, but the revelation is how detailed, crazy and just plain experimental many of the doo-wop songs are.

As for the Koch Dale Watson record, Chuck, Watson has pretty much disowned the record, saying he was rushed and he didn't get to pick the material. I interviewed Dale when I was doing my Johnny Bush piece a while back. Apparently, Watson's recording with Lloyd Green (pedal-steel player) and says the result will be what Little Darlin' set out to be.

Country blues: the Moaners' Mississippi-recorded Blackwing Yalobusha, which has its moments of effective post-blues splay, lotsa slide guitars keening over energized bits of slightly dissonant guitar trickery. Not bad, and one song is about Pam Grier as Foxy Brown and another has leader Melissa Swingle extricating the Moaners from a bad gig in a biker bar by "calling up a fake boyfriend."

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 29 July 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago)

George, I've only heard one track from the Bon Jovi; I'm wondering how you think the following tracks stack up against the album as a whole: "Lost Highway," "Summertime," "Whole Lot Of Leavin'," "The Last Night," "One Step Closer." Those are the ones co-written by producer John Shanks. I've fingered him as the best melodist of the '00s but that's pretty much for his work with Michelle and Hilary and Ashlee, while his stuff with Bon Jovi and SheDaisy (not to mention Sheryl and Alanis) has generally made me shrug [though I did think the tracks he cowrote on Have A Nice Day were generally better than the others].

Frank Kogan, Monday, 30 July 2007 11:04 (seventeen years ago)

Favorite album of the year so far is Aly & A.J.'s Insomniatic, which I'm not claiming is remotely country, but it does have one track (a bonus track, available only if you buy from the right store), "Tears," which sounds very Renaissance Faire - I'm sure I'm using the term inaccurately, but what I mean is that it's got folky droniness (like 2005's great "Rush") but with vocal interaction that frequently makes me think "madrigal" (another word I'm sure I'm using inaccurately).

My top two albs - the Aly & A.J. and the Miranda Lambert - both manage to disappoint me: each is way more consistently good than its predecessor but each seems more generic, somehow. By "generic" I don't mean "ordinary" so much as "uses stock characters and stock situations" - which can be fine, 'cept the earlier albums seemed more touching the more personal they were. This isn't a general rule of course, either that personal is more touching than generic or that the generic can't be made personal (and there's a genre called "singer-songwriter" where you're required to appear personal). But "Charlie" in "Me and Charlie Talking" seemed more real, like someone you might know. Of course I'd say he's a type too, a stock figure, the kid with wanderlust, but Miranda made the relationship between narrator and Charlie feel real, whereas on the new one she seems to be happy to have the roles feel like roles, maybe so that she can go over the top with them. Aly & A.J. seem to go stock so that they can enjoy their own wordplay - like they've decided to be Ira Gershwin, suddenly. Nothing wrong with that, and I'd say that for the Gershwins (not to mention Astaire and Sinatra) their character revealed itself in the execution not the romantic stereotypes they took as a given. But when Aly & A.J. and Miranda go personal (what appears to be personal), the stakes seem higher, and the emotions rise with them.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 30 July 2007 11:52 (seventeen years ago)

Tracklist for the 1997 Charlie Rich compilation Feel Like Going Home: The Essential Charlie Rich on Columbia/Legacy:

1 Lonely Weekends Rich 2:07
2 Break Up Rich 2:32
3 Who Will the Next Fool Be? Rich 2:23
4 Sittin' and Thinkin' Rich 3:07
5 There's Another Place I Can't Go Pockriss, Tobias 2:38
6 Let Me Go My Merry Way Rich 2:26
7 River, Stay 'Way from My Door Dixon, Woods 2:45
8 There Won't Be Anymore Rich 2:22
9 Big Boss Man Dixon, Smith 2:33
10 Mohair Sam Frazier 2:06
11 I Washed My Hands in Muddy Water Babcock 2:39
12 A Field of Yellow Daisies Rich 3:04
13 Down and Out Rich 2:15
14 You Can Have Her Cook 2:53
15 No Home Rich 2:34
16 When Something Is Wrong With My Baby Hayes, Porter 2:45
17 The Milky White Way Rich, Sherrill 3:50
18 Feel Like Going Home [demo version] Rich 3:43
19 Set Me Free Putman 2:31
20 Stay Rich 2:15
21 I Almost Lost My Mind Hunter 2:34
22 I Miss You So Henderson, Robin, Scott 2:41
23 Your Place Is Here With Me Rich 3:04
24 Nice 'N' Easy Bergman, Bergman, Spence 3:00
25 Why Oh Why Rich 2:31
26 Don't Put No Headstone on My Grave Rich 2:09
27 Have a Heart Rich 3:05
28 Peace on You Rich 3:57
29 You Never Really Wanted Me Rich, Rich 2:24
30 A Woman Left Lonely Oldham, Penn 3:12
31 Life's Little Ups and Downs Rich 3:36
32 Behind Closed Doors ODell 2:54
33 The Most Beautiful Girl Bourke, Sherrill, Wilson 2:42
34 Since I Fell for You Johnson 3:03
35 Pictures and Paintings Pomus, Rebennack 4:22
36 Feel Like Going Home Rich 4:46

Frank Kogan, Monday, 30 July 2007 12:16 (seventeen years ago)

(And the most personal and haunting - and one of the best - on the new Aly & A.J., "Blush," seems to have been removed from the official release, though apparently versions containing "Blush" have made it into stores, so I don't know.)

Frank Kogan, Monday, 30 July 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

Jeff W. says "Blush" is on the store versions of Insomniatic but not the iTunes version. He also said that the first thing he thought when he heard "Tears" was of Brit-folk group Prelude.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 30 July 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

By "generic" I don't mean "ordinary" so much as "uses stock characters and stock situations" - which can be fine, 'cept the earlier albums seemed more touching the more personal they were.

Of course, in that sentence I'm using the word "personal" generically, in that the personal-seeming lyrics could have been based on experiences and attitudes that the songwriters made up, while the stock characters and stock situations could have been drawn from life.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 30 July 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

Back in Queens now, sigh. And the biggest surprise about listening to country radio in the car in Houston over the weekend is that I was liking Houston r&b radio more. Best song on I heard on the country stations (I was listening to two of those) was...I forget. Or I never knew in the first place, since songs never get back-announced these days, but it was a woman singing a bunch of verses in rhythm (almost "rapping" them), and I'm pretty sure "Got" or "Get" or both was in the title, maybe both words. Figured I'd get back here and check the Billboard country singles chart and the airplay chart on Mediabase and the title would jump right out to me, but I'm not finding it; think I've heard it before, though, so maybe it's not new? I realize I'm not giving much to go on. Also heard Sammy Kershaw's calypsofied (mid '90s?) version of the Amazing Rhythm Aces' "Third Rate Romance," and just wanted to note what a awesome song that is -- just really mocking about the sleazy middle-aged one-night-stand it chronicles, but in a really empathetic, non-moralistic way, somehow. Realized I don't know a whole lot about either Kershaw or the Amazing Rhythm Aces (though I think I have some CD collection by the latter in storage), so if anybody wants to school me about either artist, for sure feel free.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 00:39 (seventeen years ago)

I recently picked up his "Complete Singles Plus, The Sun Years 1958-1963" which is pretty great, though doesn't sound anything like "Behind Closed Doors."

the (great) rockabilly-ish stuff for sun in the '50s also doesn't sound anything like the (great) "white soul" (phrase borrowed from john morthland via frank k, above) he cut for smash in the '60s, which doesn't sound anything like the (great) smooth countrypolitan classics he cut for epic in the late '60s and early '70s, which don't sound anything like the (not nearly as great) jazz vocals he cut just before he died.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago)

xp Beyond those songs, though, the country stations were kind of drag. I heard Paisley's silly Weird Al imitation "Online" a few times, and it was okay. Aldean's "Johnny Cash" kicked hard; "Teardrops on My Guitar" never sounded as good as folks on the teen-pop thread, especially Frank, say it is. The new-(ish?) Trisha Yearwood single about "Heaven Something" has a decent gospel element to it. But mostly the stations were playing mushy stuff by guys.

(Wait, Mediabase says "Different World" is by Bucky Covington? Is that the cornball nostalgia one about how there used to be only three TV stations and you had to get up to turn the channel and you just had your friends and they were outside and when the word "satellite" comes in the voice saying it has some kind of cool Telstar sound effect, like something ELO would do? I thought that was Tim McGraw! Or did Bucky cover it? Or is this a different "Different World" Or am I wrong about Tim doing it? Anyway, I like the one I'm thinking of.)

Meanwhile, the r&b station had "A Bay Bay" and "Party Like A Rockstar" and "Same Girl" and "Pop Lock and Drop It" and "Beautiful Girls" and that one about "your weave ain't like your hair" (is the Nina a/k/a P by the Pound? whoever, it cracked me up) and the one I LOVE that starts out like Trouble Funk doing this super-propulsive D.C. go-go chant that goes something like "got my ring on bitches I be wrestlin'" (though I'm probably totally getting the words wrong) and that that girl rapper comes in and starts saying "get up get up pick up pick up" with a slightly dancehall-inspired cadence though I'm pretty sure she's not Jamaican. Who does that one? Gorilla Zoe, maybe? Lil Boosie?? Hell if I know. Either way, I was cranking it loud every time.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 00:55 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, google says this is Bucky. He sure does sing like Tim though (which is a compilment, by the way):

We were born to mothers who smoked and drank
Our cribs were covered in lead-based paint
No childproof lids
No seatbelts in cars
Rode bikes with no helmets
and still here we are
Still here we are

We got daddy's belt when we misbehaved
Had three TV channels you got up to change
No video games and no satellite
All we had were friends and they were outside
Playing outside

I don't think that go-go-into-girl-rap song is Lil Boosie or Gorilla Zoe, though, judging from google searches. Maybe it's some local Houston hit? Hmmm. But I'm fairly clueless about r&b hits these days, so it could just as well be huge and national. (Not that it has anything to do with country either way.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 01:45 (seventeen years ago)

(It should also be noted here that I don't have the foggiest idea who either Gorilla Zoe or Lil Boosie are, or what they sound like. I mainly just looked at the r&b chart, and liked their names. As for the song that probably isn't them, the Trouble Funk song its obsessively repeated-several-times deep voice chant reminds me of is "Hey Fellas," if that helps.)

Meanwhile, back in country album land, I've been enjoying the Halfway to Hazard album (due out soon on Mercury}. Favorite track so far is "Die By My Own Hand," which has a dark but uplifting melody and pick-up to it that reminds me of some early '70s AM radio soft-rock hit that I can't yet pinpoint, but that probably rocked despite its soft-rockingness. (The mushy single, "Daisy," is one of the cuts I like least so far. "Cold," "Country Til the Day We Die," "Burn It Down," "Welcome To Nashville" have been sounding good. The latter's a novelty tune, with Eddie Rabbit via Big N Rich-style talk parts about how Nashville is bad for music and forces everything into a three-minute single--you know the drill. "Cold" is gloomy and concerns arson, albeit metaphorically. "Country Til the Day We Die" has big powerchords slightly reminiscent of "My Sharona.")

xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

(Er, "Burn It Down," not "Cold," is actually the gloomy arson one. Which could perhaps have been easily inferred from their respective titles, duh.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

Actually (not sure if I got this point across), there's something smug about "Welcome to Nashville" that bugs me -- it's not half as funny or edgy as it pretends to be, and it feels like they're patting themselves on the back. Seems like the kind of complaint that could have come from by some semi- energetic alt-country band who'd never get played on country stations -- Bottle Rockets fans might like it, but the Rockets might be less hacklike about it.

On the other hand, the adjectives I'm using to describe "Die By My Own Hand" aren't doing it justice. Doesn't seem to deal with suicide, per se', despite the title's implication, but the undercurrent's there, more in the world-weary sound than in the lyrics. Right now I'd slot it somewhere in the general neighborhood of Glen Campbell or Gordon Lightfoot, but there are certainly more fleeting early '70s antecedents its melody mirrors -- Vanity Fare? Five-Man Electrical Band? Nah, not them, but somebody who got played around when they did, maybe.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 12:02 (seventeen years ago)

And oh yeah, Halfway to Hazard (who may or may not do a song actually about Hazard -- they should have covered the great Richard Marx one, they'd have done a good job!) are a duo not a self-contained band, by the way, and they're clearly shooting for a Montgomery Gentry real-men-standing-our-ground 'tude and crowd, and they pull it off really well. The single "Daisy" actually sounds better the more I hear it: good Southern rock buildup to an implied gospel climax where everything but the singing and drumming falls out. And the lady background vocals at the end of "Burn it Down" make the gospel/soul climax stuff explicit, which is very MG too. "I'm Tired" is about this old heart of the singer having seen better days, and has some Black Crowes in its chug. "Got Back Up" -- which has a bar fight with somebody who's bullying a woman in the first verse, a coal miner whose back gives out and he winds up in a wheelchair in the second verse, and the singer talking about when he's dead and buried in the final verse, where the musical atmospherics get twinkly and almost prog-rockish -- is macho winners-never-quit stuff, stodgy and proud. I like these guys.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 13:05 (seventeen years ago)

Influences listed on their myspace page: "Bad Co., The Eagles, Hank Williams Jr., Garth Brooks, Foreigner, Dwight Yoakam, Travis Tritt, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Stone Temple Pilots, Aerosmith, ZZ Top, Led Zeppelin, The Black Crowes, George Jones, Live, Jude Cole, Ozzy, Charlie Daniels, Merle Haggard, Foo Fighters, Steve Earl, Lenny Kravitz, Cash, GNR, Soundgarden, Keith Whitley, Little River Band, Alabama, Pink Floyd, Kris Kristofferson, Whitesnake, SRV, George Strait, Poison, Brooks and Dunn, and Bryan Adams."

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=31252798

xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

I finally got the forthcoming Bettye Lavette w/ DBTs album. First listen = Holy shit this is good.

Roy Kasten, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 03:16 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, Edd was telling me how good that is, and the Truckers turned out to be a good backing band on Jason's album too. Heard an interview with her on American Routes, I think it was, several months ago, and she made a point (no brag, just fact) of establishing that she is one blues(in the Post-WWII Southern sense, which includes Southern and downhome-sounding R&B)singer who never did sing gospel. Her parents' living room sometimes paid rent as a club, licensed or otherwise, and maybe have been certain other social activities; anyway, when she customizes her covers, she's coming from pretty much the opposite direction of Blind Boys Of Alabama (when they discreetly sanctify Dylan, Stones, Waits etc) Haven't heard the whole Aly & AJ,though I like what I've heard but although the Gershwins weren't mainly performers (not that George's restored piano rolls and rediscovered live radio shows aren't frequently amazing), even their midlevel stuff tend to leave Aly & AJ behind (unless, say, Fred Astaire is trying to sing their stuff, or a bunch of retro-come-latelys--but even so, Gershwin songs often seem performer-proof, basically, long as the notes are basically, you know,hit). But George prob shouldn't've bothered with Rhapsody In Blue etc, especially since he ran out of time, so I hope Aly & AJ will wait til they're rich old farts like Paul McCartney before they go so "legitimate." (That track list pretty much is The Essential Charlie Rich indeed! Wonder if Margaret Rich is still around? She co-wrote many of his best.)

dow, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 04:45 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Chuck
I wrote on here a while back about how much I hate that Bucky Covington single. The rockers on his album are good though, and "American Friday Night" is one of my favorite songs of the year.

Also, re:"Tough" by Craig Morgan. Salon.com had a story a month or so back about the trend of "Cancer Country." Kind of interesting though the writer seemed to prefer "Tough" to "Live Like You Were Dying" purely on the grounds that the McGraw song might make a sick person who isn't up to go blah blah point seven seconds on a bull named Fu Manchu feel like a loser.

mulla atari, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 12:21 (seventeen years ago)

Other than some decorative twangy guitar on "Who Says," I've not heard anything close to country out of Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montana - that is until "See You Again," which is head, shoulders, and torso above anything else she's ever recorded. A disco-ball arrangement of rockabilly menace music* (that is, closer to Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison, Chris Isaak than to Elvis and Jerry Lee), doomy reverb, except the lyrics are all sweet girl crush, Miley anxiously but optimistically falling in love! And there's this great bright thwomp-thwomp-thwomp disco pop chorus about being shy and tongue-tied, though with a promise of better things to come: "The next time we hang out/I will redeem myself."

*The tune reminds me of "Bad Things" from last year's Jace Everett alb, though the style is standard enough that I should be able to think of fifty better-known examples, 'cept my memory is Swiss cheese today.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 2 August 2007 06:08 (seventeen years ago)

The site's probably a fake, but right now "See You Again" is the second song posted on this MySpace.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 2 August 2007 06:20 (seventeen years ago)

More Halfway to Hazard notes (partly clearing up some misconceptions I conveyed earlier):

1. They actually do mention Hazard (and being halfway to there), in the first line of "Cold."
2. The climax of "Daisy" is not just vocals and vocals; sounds like there's light guitar strumming and an organ in there, too. It's soulful.
3. "Welcome To Nashville" is better than I said above, and probably also better than most songs that I've heard by the Bottle Rockets, even if parts of it do make me wince. Really, what it is, is funny/cynical warning about the music industry, in the tradition of "Don't Call Us We'll Call You" by Sugarloaf (though not nearly that good, or funny, admittedly.) Has an excellent list of cities and Canadian provinces that they suggest you stay in and play your local bar because you'll make more money there than if you transfer to Nasvhille, which is a city full of soft-rock wannabees, they say, not to mention a city where the suits will dress you up in panty hose and force you to play free shows. Etc.
4. "Devil and the Cross" is their obligatory between raising hell and amazing grace themed number.
5. First line of the great "Die By My Own Hand" refers to sex in the city; rest of the song has the singer taking responsibility for his own fuckups.
6. "Countrified" is a good, kicking, funky Southen rock opener, with some pretty decent howling in it.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 August 2007 11:39 (seventeen years ago)

(not just vocals and drums in the start of "Cold," I meant.) (Though yeah, not just vocals and vocals either, I guess.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 August 2007 11:40 (seventeen years ago)

Also, fwiw, the label their album is being released on is not Mercury, per se', but rather Stylesonic, which is Tim McGraw's new imprint, on which the new Lori McKenna album is also being released.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 August 2007 11:44 (seventeen years ago)

(not just vocals and drums in the start of "Cold," I meant.)

No, I meant at the start of "Daisy." Guess I hadn't woken up yet.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 August 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

(hey xhuxx,Frank did those re-sent Lady Tigra links work?) Listening to Peggy Young on Fresh Air now, anybody heard her album? Without knowing who she was, saw and fairly well liked her on TV recently (thinking she sounded and looked like Gayle Garnett, whose finally-legit-reissued Sausolito Helioport Edd and I were discussing on here). Got that mid-60s somewhut dreamy country-folk-pop thing going on (comparableto the Gayle I've heard, which doesn't incl Sausolito), like a Glenn Campbell times Jimmy Webb thing too, and the song, which I think is called "That's How Much I'll Be Loving You," is by Spooner Oldham, she's saying now, and I think he was involved in production--which also may be why it seems a little too reverent re its own sensitivity (background singers come in, overselling): one of his lesser-known, and deservedly so, but basically she pulls it off, which is impressive, and now she's singing another that adds country sitar to a boxcar snare, "Who hasn't felt 'You'll come back to me'.."

dow, Friday, 3 August 2007 00:32 (seventeen years ago)

(Don, got the Tigra links [got the original PR email] but haven't followed 'em yet. Was disappointed by her single from several months back - Lil Mama's "Lip Gloss" totally crushes it as a novelty hip-hop track - though recall liking stuff on her MySpace a bit more.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago)

Continuing to listen to Peggy Young on Fresh Air, while Terry Gross adeptly led the show between music and conversation about family medical problems, and dealing with them: Ben's cerebral palsy, the rise of The Bridge School; Neil's aneuryism and the album he made, while waiting for the operation that might repair it, impair or kill him--was glad that non-tearjerky narrative was unfolding when I got the call that my aunt had just died. She was a hell of a musician, much-honored teacher too.

dow, Friday, 3 August 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago)

"aneurysm." A good book about that experience (and the way all sorts of wild journalistic and off-screen experiences lead up to and away from the present waiting room) is Jimmy Breslin's I Want To Thank My Brain For Remembering Me.

dow, Friday, 3 August 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

Re to Frank upstream: "Lost Highway" is the only song that still sticks in my head of the Shanks contributions. Some line about "...plastic dashboard jesus, hey, hey!" Then the fiddles come in. "Summertime" was just annoying. "Sum-sum-summertime!" You go, guy!

Gorge, Friday, 3 August 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago)

Don, sorry to hear about your aunt.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 3 August 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

Anyone know anything about Candie Payne? Young singer from Liverpool. I've heard one song, "By Tomorrow," which is a song with great heart. It could be 1967, white soul going psychedelic while still having that sweet '60s pop pang, "The Beat Goes On" by someone with a nicer voice than Cher's. But of course in 1967 no one was creating this particular combination, and the drums wouldn't have been so prominent. Not that this song is as good as "The Beat Goes On." But I'm impressed how Payne carries a track loaded with a whole lot of stuff. Also, "Candie Payne" is a great soul name.

OK, I'm now listening to the tracks on her MySpace, and I recognize "I Wish," and on that one and on the other three MySpace tracks her singing is as winsome as on "By Tomorrow," but now I'm getting really irritated by the arrangements, all the sound her voice has to compete with. It's a great voice; thin, actually, but the thinness helps it to cut through. I think the "neo"-ness is a trap for her, as it is for lots of people. She sounds a bit lost in the overall sound. Lost in the world. Worth paying attention to, however.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 3 August 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago)

Got ahold of the Confederate Railroad all-covers album from earlier this year (on once-upon-a-time reggae/world/roots label Shanachie, just like Daryl Singletary's almost-all-covers-album from earlier this year), and a few cuts seem like your usual fulfilling-the-label-mandate-so-we-can-make-mortgage-payments slackadaisical perfunction, but I wound up liking a surprising amount of a lot of it, esp. when the band lets themselves gets jazzy, in the ragtime minstrelled Billy Joe Shaver song "Honky Tonk Heroes" (better than CRR's version of his oft-covered "Georgia On A Fast Train") and in Lynyrd Skynyrd's "I Know A Little," which in this rendition anyway (I need to go back and check the original) starts out sounding like Glen Miller just like Charlie Daniels's "The South's Gonna Do It Again" does. But the CDB song Confederate RR do instead is "Trudy," which is also really jazzy, but more in a funk way. Also really like "Hard Livin" (by D. Halley, it says, but didn't Joe Ely do a version of this once?), "Whiskey On Ice" (by Hank Jr -- goes with women on fire by the way), and Dave Loggin's eternal "Please Come To Boston," which always knocks me out no matter who does it, though I guess I never really got before (since maybe I never really paid close attention before) that the ramblin' boy who won't settle down in the song keeps moving around (to Boston, Denver, L.A.), and his number one fan gal is back in Tennesse, begging him to return there, instead -- right? But how is there gold in Tennesee? (As in "there ain't no gold and there ain't nobody like me"?) Not sure I get that part. (Er...gold for country singers in Nashville??) Also, did Dave Loggins ever write any other songs anywhere near that good? I've got his 1972 LP Personal Belongings on vinyl, and it's fairly moving in a sensitive lonesome '70s post-hippie beautiful loser bachelor moved to the mountains and living off the land and feeling sorry for himself singer-songwriter kind of way (not remotely country, I wouldn't say), but there's nothing else on "Boston"'s level on it.

Also spent lots of time the past couple weeks with Tommy Conwell's 2-albums-on-one-CD reissue Rumble/Guitar Trouble on American Beat, and if Jack Ingram can count as country now by sounding like Bryan Adams, then I guess Tommy Conwell can count as country by now too, right? I'm pretty sure George has plugged Philly guy Tommy's Guitar Trouble before; I might be wrong, though, and I'd say Rumble (with "Half A Heart," hard rockabillified "Workout," very Bryan-like "Everything They Say Is True", "Tell Me What You Want Me To Be," maybe "Walk on Water") has more songs on it that I really like a lot than GT (with the sorta rockabillified "Nice N Naughty," Good Love Gone Bad" which sounds like Bryan Adams trying to be Bad Company, plus the great "I'm Seventeen," which I put on my Pazz & Jop singles ballot the year it came out and could still count as my favorite Replacements song since 1985 if you want to count it as one). No songs about Hazard, but Robert Hazard (wasn't he connected with the Hooters in some way?) has two partial songwriting credits on the CD, as does Jules Shear, who some powerpop nuts mysteriously consider a great songwriter (wait, did both he and Hazard also write early Cyndi Lauper hits maybe? Or am I totally confused?), but I've never really understood Jules's appeal after the second Jules and the Polar Bears album in 1979 or so (which probably wasn't as good as their debut LP).

xhuxk, Sunday, 5 August 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

(ps: I'm pretty sure that Robert Sheffield once pointed out in print that, while Richard Marx once wrote a song about Hazard, Robert Hazard never wrote a song about Marx.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 5 August 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

(And actually, maybe Dave Loggins's LP and his one huge hit were sort of sonically country. What I meant was that I don't imagine anybody considered them country at the time, though I could be wrong.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 5 August 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

So at my aunt's funeral, an African-American-sounding (words maybe filtered through the 18th/early 19th Centuries hymnists? but "arr. Alice Parker")"Come Away To The Skies: "Come away to the skies, my beloved arise, and rejoice in the day thou wast born." "Wast"? Never heard that , or any of it before, amazing (and graceful, yes). She, once called "the Dolly Parton of classical and Baptist music," in B'ham, anyway, was remembered by the preacher, who's also a musician: "She played forte. One member complained, and she asked what she should do. I said, 'TURN IT UP.'"

dow, Monday, 6 August 2007 02:56 (seventeen years ago)

as does Jules Shear, who some powerpop nuts mysteriously consider a great songwriter (wait, did both he and Hazard also write early Cyndi Lauper hits maybe? Or am I totally confused?), but I've never really understood Jules's appeal after the second Jules and the Polar Bears album in 1979 or so (which probably wasn't as good as their debut LP).

i've never liked any of jules' albums, with the possible exception of an acoustic disc he did with marty willson-piper, and it's been decades since he had even an ounce of power-pop in him, if he ever did, but he has written a handful of great songs, almost all of which sounded better in other people's hands tommy conwell was the first to record his "if we never meet again," i believe, and cyndi lauper made way more of a song out of his "all through the night" than jules himself ever did.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 6 August 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

Conwell was hot stuff in southeastern PA when I was there. Saw him quite a few times promoting Rumble which was essentially a major label redo of an independent LP put out by his management a couple years earlier. Same songs, produced by Robert Hazard and Fran Smith of the Hooters. Conwell's management hoped the same thing would happen for him but it never quite happened.

The album did OK. "Half a Heart" was my favorite from it. "Everything They Say is True," maybe second. Hazard, the Hooters and Conwell were all managed by Steve Mountain. He ran the three Cabarets in the Philly burbs. Are they still in existence?

As for the more frenetic songs on the LP, like "Workout" and "Walking on Water," they never did as much for me as the ones mentioned earlier, which were cowritten by either Hazard, one of the Hooters, or someone named Marcy Rauer.

Columbia kind of silly-fied his and the band's image. Last time I saw Tommy Conwell was as an opener for George Thorogood at the Spectrum. He was wearing a raccoon or fox tail, ala Ted Nugent ca. Tooth, Fang & Claw.

CMT had three hours of concert from Summerfest in Minneapolis. Rather, they had one hour of commercials, and two hours of show from Sara Evans, Sugarland and Big & Rich. On balance, I'd have to say Sugarland was the best. Jennifer Nettles just has THE voice. She has a powerful notch she works relentlessly off all the lyrical ahs and I's (which turn into ahs). I liked the current single more watching them do it than attached to the fruity video of her and Christian riding carts in the supermarket.

Big & Rich didn't devote any time to country, except for the wedding song, which I thought was pretty amusing for CMT. They even did "Loud." It made them come off like a heavier version of the Steve Miller Band, that is if Steve had something like "Rollin'" to close the show, as opposed to "Jet Airliner." Rich loves to riff on his Flying V.

CMT must be the most annoying network on cable. Not only do they sometimes do almost as commercial time as actual broadcast, the reality shows are the worst. One had this 400 lb. truck driver set up on a blind date with a 250-lb. matron. Fifteen minutes of them loathing each other, riding in his semi, eating at the local diner and then going to the pool hall, a true spoiler of your mood. Yesterday, a home video of a fat guy playing hoops with a bowling ball. I'd make foreign students watch it if they wanted to get an idea about why it was so easy for the US to charge into Iraq and blow the war on terror, only it makes us look even worse than things actually are. Outside of the music, it's easily the most disgraceful TV I've seen this year, insulting to a lot of the artists they play, if only by association.

Gorge, Monday, 6 August 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago)

Summerfest is Milwaukee, not Minneapolis. Just so you know.

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 6 August 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

Robert Hazard wrote "Girls Just Want To Have Fun." Saw him prancing around the stage, singing it in a Robert Goulet baritone, on that mid- 80s show, The Hot Spot (The USA Network, looking to go prime time, past their late night success with New Wave Theatre, Snub, etc--younger people think I'm hallucinating when I say the USA Network used to flaunt such, but they did, before they went to an all-shit-movies format; they've had a few good country concert specials in relatively recent years, like the stage version of the ZZ Top trib album I reviewed in Voice, and Willie& his armies of Friends) Anyway, The Hot Spot just set up shop in various cities for a week at a time, filmed the hottest local acts, mostly (guess Hazard was hot hypewise, and Gorge indicates). The Hooters, at that point(at least on that night), were this awesomely, offhandedly perfect mod-pubrock-reggae act, melodicas, fake Small Faces accents, rooster haircuts and all. Also the band Dick Tracy, which Maria Tessa finally got me some info, via one of her friends; they were hot New Wave, as much as that's possible, but no other Philadelphian has ever known who I was talking about.(They didn't record much.)

dow, Monday, 6 August 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

Ha, I remember Dick Tracy -- they really blew.

A guy who was a grad student in chemistry at Lehigh while I was there managed a bunch of Philly bands on the side. Dick Tracy was one of them. He also did Quincy -- a band in the same vein who had one major label record, also awful. And Johnny's Dance Band, who were good but essentially over by the time Hazard and the Hooters established themseles although both had been around for years.

I used to have a tape of a Hooters concert at Stabler Arena. My ex-wife recorded it with a lecture cassette recorder hidden in a pocket. It was good a laugh or two because for a short period of time the Hooters had a kind of Beatlemania-esque fanbase of thirteen year old girls. They sold out venues and drowned out the band with their uncontrollable mass shrieking and that's all about you could hear on the cassette made at Stabler.

There was a type of Philly bar band sound and style which I only liked intermittently. It was changeable and trendy. Part of it was you had to write songs which appealed to the girls who came out to the Cabarets. The Hooters and Hazard were a big part of it. The A's were also big locally. Saw them quite a few times and they recorded two decent LPs and one not-so-decent EP, I think. Never caught on outside the southern PA/New Jersey shore circuit.

Gorge, Monday, 6 August 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

One you might like: Handful, by Betty. 1971, from Sierre Madre ("Lee Marks appears courtesy the U.S. Forest Service") Forced Ex/Shadoks press sheet calls it "hard psychedelic boogie biker rock," but seems like, with crusty vocals and frequently fuzzy guitars *plus* bouncey bass, drums, guesting keybs (fuzz with organ is good), it's--biker pop? was there such a thing? Reminds me of Ronnie Van Zant saying "We're more commercial than the Allmans," and these guys are like second- or third-tier in that direction, also maybe (more)like when the Doobies were reportedly biker mascots early on. Fairly uneven, esp. considering the whole thing's only 34 minutes, but I especially like "Good mornin', how do you do, I'm lookin for a man runs a sawmill, name of Harley Perdoo." The victim of bill collectors turns the tables: "He's gonna know how it feels to get paid." But what could really make this a forerunner of current old-rock-as-mainstream-country is the last track, "Lights Gonna Shine," where they finally let guitarist Mike McMahon sing ("Everything is cyclin'"), in the kind of baritone that's usually over- and underdone simultaneously. (His name seems familiar...)

dow, Monday, 6 August 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

Lots of records to hear, not enough money or inclination. Chris Goes immediately ripped it off onto the Internet which must bug Shadoks mightily. I'm surprised even bother's to rerelease these LPs on their own dime, things being what they are. There can't be much of a following for the Betty's of the world and when someone immediately puts the entire LP up for download....eesh.

Gorge, Monday, 6 August 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

Don, sorry to hear about your aunt. taking a brief working vacation near Boulder, Colorado; we're enjoying the view of Steamboat Mountain, and a relief from the scorching 97-degree days in Nashville recently, air quality alerts. Lots of magpies, stellar jays and some sort of big-ass woodpecker around.

Speaking of cover records. the Derailers' <i>Under the Influence of Buck</i> works pretty well; they get the credulous but canny tone of Buck down quite well, and everything goes by the book, right down to the skilled imitations of Don Rich and the comic accents by the drummer. Occasionally, they rip off a really good, slightly skewed guitar solo or fill. "Who's Gonna Mow Your Grass" and "Big in Vegas" are my favorites; they also do "Tiger by the Tail" and "Love's Gonna Live Here" and "Sam's Place," quite well. There's a mildness to it that is weird, and I guess I feel the same way about Owens. The version of "Johnny B. Goode" sort of does sound big in Vegas in, again, a very weird way. Anyway, well done, which Owens always was (often brilliantly) and pretty innocuous, which Buck at his best was not. So, coulda used a song or two like Buck's great "Waiting in Your Welfare Line."

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks, Edd. Jennifer Nettles' voice most often reminds me of industrial solvent, and not nec. music industrial, except its pungency is def *country* (though usually prefer the scent of Patty Loveless, when my nose is that far open). But sometimes she gets it just right: like, on "Everyday America," this spudsong sure needs some radical seasoning (to ketchup with the Real Everyday America, of disasters and orgasms and whutnot). So she, with shining waitressface,is more'n' happy to oblige (and, though the video is kinda blah in execution, as Gorge says, still the concept is very appropriate, with spuds and rides in shopping carts and gleaming aisles and country music streaming in)

dow, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago)

Anybody heard the new Gene Watson? Oldies but goodies.

Roy Kasten, Friday, 10 August 2007 13:17 (seventeen years ago)

so far I like the slide guitars on the new Van Zant, My Kind of Country. "These Colors Don't Run" doesn't make me sick--there's a directness to the delivery I like--but so far, this sounds pretty uninspired. And I do recommend the Derailers' Buck record, ultimately; above all, it reveals Owens as one genuis songwriter, a normal guy keeping wild wimmen and other career-threatening situations at bay with a strict but humane musical formalism. So, the uptempo stuff starts to wear in its chirpiness and "Crying Time" comes along and slows things down just enough, and I really like "Big in Vegas" (more justified optimism) and "Who's Gonna Mow Your Grass" (Buck's hippie waltz). Haven't heard the Gene Watson, Roy.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago)

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dow, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago)

Just posted this on my MySpace:

Blake Shelton's "Back There Again": just heard this for the first time five minutes ago. Strong-voiced ballad, seems to be following the plot of "By The Time I Get To Phoenix," Blake driving far along the road, his mind back to the woman he's leaving, imagining her just waking up, sheets entangled, alarm jangling, and Blake recalling she'd never ever believed him all the times he'd told her he'd leave. But he's never going back there again. Except there's a twist, when you find out why he's leaving, which I won't spoil by telling, since it's worth your feeling the feelings yourself, when you hear it.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 12 August 2007 03:42 (seventeen years ago)

At this point the Blake Shelton Cd is my album of the year. Miranda's just hasn't clicked in the same way as Kerosene though I keep trying. Tim McGraw's is probably number two.

I got a promo of Putamayo's Americana sampler. Hmm. Not as unlistenable as I'd have expected. Don't know if these songs were made specifically for the disc or pulled off of existing records. I have to imagine that in the next few months more people are going to hear Robert Earl Keen in coffee shops and bookstores than have heard him in his entire career to this point.

mulla atari, Sunday, 12 August 2007 05:06 (seventeen years ago)

Don, I never got around to offer condolences to you about your aunt. Hope your family's been carrying on okay...

My country album of the week is, uh, a new reissue of George Thorogood's Bad To the Bone from 1982, an album I'd never listened to before, possibly because I don't care for beer commercials during TV sports events all that much. Turns out the title cut (which, on a purely objective level, i.e., like if I was a Martian and could divorce it from the world, probably isn't really all that bad) is one of my least favorite tracks on the thing. Favorite is undoubtedly his cover of Dylan via Johnny Cash's "Wanted Man" (see? country!), which I'd forgotten that a guy I went to college with put on a mix tape he sent me when I was in the Army in the early '80s. (It was a good tape, if very proto-NPR/Starbucks! Also had "Spanish Stroll" by Mink Deville, "33 Millimeter Dreams" by Garland Jeffreys, pretty good songs by the Roches and McGarrigles and T-Bone Burnett, I forget what else.) On Bad to the Bone I'm also really liking "Back to Wentzville" and "Miss Luann" (both driven by saxes in the music and specifics in the words), the cover of the Isleys via Human Beinz's "Nobody But Me" (where Geore says nobody can do the hustle and pogo and wop like he can) (honestly, I can't remember if I've ever heard the Isleys' version -- I'd forgotten the Human Beinz didn't invent it), and the John Lee Hooker cover "New Boogie Chillun" -- George always uses obsessive Hooker rhythms to stretch out rap-style. "No Particular Place To Go" is okay. (Reminds me though that the first time I ever heard "Move It On Over" and "Who Do You Love" and "Nadine," they were Thoroogood versions on the AOR stations in Detroit circa 1979; I didn't hear the Hank and Bo and Chuck originals 'til later.) Also, he does a song called "It's a Sin" that isn't a Pet Shop Boys song but must be a blues cover because both of the songwriting credits go to guys last-named Reed, but its music is as much Bobby "Blue" Bland soul if you ask me. And one guy in the band has an Excello shirt.

Also had to review the Travis Tritt album for work this week; hadn't realized when I posted about it above that "Should've Listened" is a Nickelback cover (yet more evidence of a country connection fro them) or (even though Frank had mentioned it earlier) that "You Never Take Me Dancing" is a Richard Marx cover, and must have forgotten that "The Pressure is On" is a Hank Jr cover even though the Hank Jr album it's the title track of is on my shelf and has one of my favorite country single of the '80s (= "All My Rowdy Friends Have Settled Down") (speaking of TV sports events) on it.
Others featured in songwriting credits on Tritt's new album: Rob Thomas, Kenny Wayne Shephard, Diane Warren (twice, and Richard Marx gets two as well.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 12 August 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago)

Just put on the new Van Zant today, and yeah, "These Colors Don't Run" doesn't sound completely heavy-handed -- or not all of it does anyway. Liking "Headed South" too, and the very '82 Cougar/'84 Adams "Goes Down Easy", and "That Scares Me" where the singer's kids grow up and he starts getting grey hairs. (Speaking of hair problems: Edd, I posted about Turbonegro's new album on the metal thread; won't repeat it all here, but mainly I'm not liking it much -- really getting tired of their being a joke band who usually aren't all that funny, and whose riffs really don't stick to my ribs as much as they used to back in Apocalypse Dudes days. "Hell Toupee" {= hell to pay} is sorta cute, I suppose. Or at least it's cuter than "Stroke the Shaft" or the one about gals liking chubby guys.)

New Buck 65 isn't country at all, as far as I can tell, and also isn't as exciting as the more country albums he was making a couple years ago (as in Talking Honky Blues), but I still like most of it. It's supposedly a concept album about 1957, and its best when you can tell, as in, er, "1957" (Buddy Holly, Thelonius Monk, felonius punks, the KKK, hello Sid Vicious, goodbye Brooklyn Dodgers, satellites in outer space, Spy Vs. Spy, Buster Crabbe, hula hoops and frisbess and pink flamingos, Arthur Miller and Marilyn Monroe, Humphrey Bogart is dead, no joke hit the low note we all go to heaven in a little rowboat); "The Rebel" (Gene Vincent, Eddie Cochran, Winstons, broken bones, pinball, drag races, running from the law, breaking the law); "The Beatific" (Charlie Parker, Che Guevara, the beats); "Ho-Boys" (= hobos out of the Army). Also like "Shutter Buggin," which basically has the same theme as Van Morrison's "Blue Money" or the Fabulous Poodles' "Tit Photographer Blues," and "Mr. Nobody," which is probably better than the Beatles' "Nowhere Man" for whatever that's worth (divorced, working for a mininum wage, collects old records, hates kids in the supermarket, hasn't had sex in two years). Actually I'm not sure how all that stuff necessarily qualified as being about 1957, but I'm sure Buck does. Sadly the music isn't as memorable as the words, but at least "Lipstick" seems to start with a good sample of drums from Thin Lizzy's "Johnny The Fox" (lots of the rest feels too much like a movie score.) (The promo-CD voiceovers are commendably unobtrusive, though -- for a while I didn't even notice they were there! They sorta blend right in.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 12 August 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago)

PS: Van Zant's "Train" = more rap-like (in beat and vocal cadence) than Thorogood's "New Boogie Chillun" if not than Thorogood's "One Bourbon One Scotch One Beer." (Or more talking honky blues, anyway.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 12 August 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago)

Blake Shelton's "Back There Again":...there's a twist, when you find out why he's leaving, which I won't spoil by telling, since it's worth your feeling the feelings yourself, when you hear it.

Just played this song all the way through twice trying to concentrate the whole time, but I've got A.D.D. apparently, and it's one of the most understated -- and, as far as I can tell, one of the dullest -- songs on the album, and I'm still not quite sure what Frank's referring to here beyond the obvious (whatever "the obvious" is.) The part that did catch me off guard was the Iraq metaphor toward the almost-end: Something about they say you shouldn't cut and run, but I know I'm not a coward, and I'm not going back again. Wow. Tried to google the lyrics to get the exact line, but the lyric sites all have firewalls or something. I'm not sure if that's what Frank's referring to, but I think not.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 11:24 (seventeen years ago)

And fwiw, this song that Frank talked about upthread on the Jack Ingram album is also one that has never once jumped out at me, that always goes in one ear and out the other. (And I love both the Ingram and Shelton albums otherwise, oddly.) So: Any hints on how to retool my ears for understated ballads?:

Jack Ingram "Don't Want To Get Hurt":...this track comes along, a slow stomp, fingernails dragging through the gravel. Song holds to that for a relentless minute, Ingram's voice a husk, suppressing the melodiousness of the melody. Then bright chiming guitars enter, and we're in a kind of emo-pop country. Very nice; pretty and sad, though doesn't live up to the low-scraping beginning.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 11:46 (seventeen years ago)

As for Van Zant, I'm thinking that, on the new album at least, I like them more when they sift their Skynyrd through jolly good-natured Confederate Railroad boogie in "Train" and "It's Only Money" etc. than through serious-minded Montgomery Gentry mode in "These Colors Don't Run" and "Headed South" etc. Whole album is pretty dang good, though. Rhythm of "Train" is, duh, a train rhythm, which as has happened in country and other places before, gives the drums permission to get quasi/semi-synthesized post-disco dance-oriented-rock on us, which makes them totally propulsive. "It's Only Money" is about how you might as well spend out 'cause you can't be buried with it, and it's a brothel boogie where the singer actually orders calimari and escargot, possibly a country first. Healthily powerchorded "My Kind Of Country" threathens to take you out back but my favorite line is the one that rhymes camouflage with hunting dogs. "That Scares Me" opens with the singer doing something to the shoe of a field goal kicker from LSU, on a bet, and then he gets scared about how life without his wife would be like, and it chokes me up. "We Can't Do It Alone" is Southern rock for God with Allmans guitars and soul singers at the end, and totally beautiful. "Friend" is a love song to a guy; "It's All About You" is a love song to a wife, with car-stop gridlock and sales-on coupons. "Headed South"'s about being on tour. But my favorite song is still "Goes Down Easy," the one that sounds like John Cougar when he was great.

And okay, can I talk about the new Black Lips album here? Normally I'd talk about it on the metal thread, but I don't want to piss off the lead singer of the Mountain Goats. (If that's crypitc, check said thread to see what's been going on there this week.) Plus the album does have some old-time yodeling country moves on it, so it kinda fits here. Anyway, I think it might be their most songful and funniest and most rocking album, which I totally didn't expect especially giving how their live album earlier this year didn't click for me like their three previous studio albums had. The advance I have doesn't have song titles, and neither does the press release I kept, but I'm really loving their use of almost-doowop bassman-and-high-voice switchoffs in tracks #8 and #4, the latter of which is all about good luck and bad luck and superstitions. Also really like #1, which is trippy and appears to be called "C'Mon Trip" or something; #5 I guess it is (having trouble reading my notes) which is sort of their exuberanly politically incorrect and totally war-whooping version of "Indian Outlaw" (or Don Armando's 2nd Ave Rhumba Band's "I'm An Indian Too" maybe?) with every wigwam peace-pipe tomahawk cliche in the book and possibly the longest laundry list of Cherokee Navajo etc etc Indian nations in any song ever, and maybe especially #6, which has to be one of the most blatant "Louie Louie" rewrites in history, except they do it as "L.A. L.A." as far as my ears can tell, with plenty of party in the background voices tossed in. The Dylany sea-chantey tunes rock and roll, too. As does the yodeling.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

Their myspace (which I notice they lead off with a song called "Katrina"; not sure if that's one of the songs I just talked about, or not):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=3188377

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago)

it's been a good week here in Colorado, listening to the Boulder progressive alternative radio station, they play a lot of neo-funk I don't recognize and plenty of Ry Cooder, Richard Thompson, Prefuse 73, and so on and so on. Gorgeous today and just cloudy enough--they're keeling over in Memphis, Nashville and Birmingham from the heat.

Yeah, Xhuhk, Turbonegro's joke has worn a bit thin, but I still think "Hell Toupee" and the last song, where they get all theoretical about the difference between pop and rock, is pretty good. Boogie-shlock that could be better, sure. Sharon gets annoyed when I play the Van Zant. I'm liking it more and guess I'll have to smuggle it outside so I can listen to it. Waiting for some promo stuff to make its way up here, including a bunch of demos from a Nashville (actually Murfreesboro) band called Those Darlins, who are kind of a punk-country outfit composed of three teenage girls. Also listened to some of the new songs the Peasall Sisters have been doing, on their myspace page--I did a Nash Scene critics pick on them in this wk's issue--and one called "Not That Kind of Girl" is about how they're not gonna have sex, or at least how the oldest, Sarah, who's now 20, ain't gonna, nope, not until the Lord says it's all right. It's actually a pretty good song. They can sound a little weird to me and hard for me to separate the quaintness from the good stuff, but they're still the best thing on the recent June Carter Cash tribute--a record I thought was a total waste of time, just as I suspect the new Billy Joe Shaver Christian record is, too. I mean go duet with Jesus if that's what it takes, Billy Joe, but the rest of us are doing OK without him. Heard some more of the Kelly Willis record Roy so eloquently wrote about in the last ND, and I think it's good, but not earthshakingly so. Supposedly, the label is sending me the new Chuck Prophet record (he produced Kelly's), which he cut in Nashville.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

and, big piece in this week's Denver Westword on Isbell and his split from the Truckers. Says it really was that cliche, "creative differences." Just mentioned the Peasalls and the June Carter Cash tribute, and Boulder radio is playing it right now. That one and "Peaches" are the only things I can tolerate on that record, altho Patty Loveless sings good. Apparently, you pronounce the Peasall's name as "pee-a-saw."

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

Xhuxk, nothing super special about the idea in "Back There Again," which is that he's leaving her because he doesn't want to keep fucking her up, except that the song had set me up to expect he was leaving her because she was fucking him up (which might be owing to my hearing the beginning as an echo of "By The Time I Get To Phoenix," which might not have been deliberate on Blake's part).

Haven't absorbed the album deeply. So far nothing's hit me with the immediacy of "Some Beach" and "Good Old Boy, Bad Old Boyfriend." I smiled at the one where not only she don't love him but she don't hate him anymore.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago)

And I'm sure it's not a metaphor for Iraq, but it would make an interesting one, since I haven't generally heard polticians from either side of the "leave now" vs. "don't leave now" debate say "We need to leave because we're screwing them up by staying."

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago)

That last verse is pretty loaded: "tour of duty" "hero" "coward" "cut & run." Reminded me of reading in Rednecks & Bluenecks that many of the songwriters are more librul than the artists. Maybe Tom Douglas, who also wrote Martina's "Love's the Only House," was sneaking in a certain sentiment. But since he's written songs about alcoholism before and there's the line here about a "slow motion suicide" it seems more like her momma was telling his drunk ass to take a hike.

mulla atari, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago)

Xhuxk, I skimmed the interchange between you and D4rni3lle, didn't seem like he intended to learn anything from it. But I've worked out that all music is either teenpop or country or some combination of the two, so don't worry about it. (Though most of the teenpop discussion seems to have migrated to poptimists or bedbugs.)

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 16 August 2007 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

"Love's the Only House" transcends politics, transcends sanity, transcends transcendence. "We got teenagers walking around in a culture of darkness living together alone"! Weird thing is I understand what it means.

I've probably quoted that line on this thread before, as well as the opinion that the melody was lifted from Springsteen's "Incident On 57th Street," which he lifted from the Tremeloes.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 16 August 2007 00:15 (seventeen years ago)

All music is metal, just to varying degrees of heaviness.

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 16 August 2007 00:17 (seventeen years ago)

Jack Ingram "Don't Want To Get Hurt":...

Okay, I'm liking this now. Very powerpop, really, though maybe a kind of powerpop that's from after I stopped liking powerpop -- I bet Matthew Sweet fans would like it. Or Bodeans fans. Or, I don't know, Del Amitri fans? Somebody. But though I don't like those acts (maybe I should?) I do like this. Plus the chiming guitars that Frank mentions at the end remind of famous metal band the Byrds (or at least some powerpop mimics of them -- the Records maybe? Let me out of your starry eyes and be on my way.)

Black Lips, on the other hand = wig wam bam, bam-sham-alam. Hiawatha didn't bother too much 'bout Minehaha and her tender touch.

xhuxk, Thursday, 16 August 2007 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

Speaking of which, tracks # 6 through 9 on Ted Nugent's excellently titled new Love Grenade (which I haven't listened to yet, and which probably belongs more on the metal thread than here, whether I happen to be boycotting that one at the time or not) go "Geronimo and Me"/"EagleBrother"/"Spirit Of The Buffalo"/"Aborogini." Yikes. Best song title, though, may well be "Bridge Over Troubled Daughters."

xhuxk, Thursday, 16 August 2007 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

tracks #8 and #4, the latter of which is all about good luck and bad luck and superstitions

And the former of which seems to be about "bad kids" who live out on the strip and take all the pills and have hissyfits and don't give a shit and draw penises on the walls of the bathroom stalls and get bad report cards in the USA like you and me oo-wee.

And oh yeah, Ted's been hanging out with Toby Keith in recent years, right? So: Country may be possible.

xhuxk, Thursday, 16 August 2007 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

Oops, an occupational hazard of using random play on the CD player: That "L.A. L.A."/"Louie Louie" song (in which Hollywood High figures prominently) isn't track #6 on the Black Lips' Good Bad Not Evil at all; instead it's #6 on the 2004 Bomp! CD reissue of Stiv Bators's 1980 L.A Confidential which I've also been listening to. The other song on there that I'd been assuming was Black Lips is "It's Cold Outside," one of a bunch of '60s-style powerpop numbers with actual power on Stiv's CD. Also, I like his version of the Sonics' "Have Love Will Travel" better than his version of the Damned's "Neat Neat Neat", which is just okay. And none of which has anything to do with country. Though track #7 on the Black Lips album -- which I'd been thinking of as a Dylan sea chantey, but which is really more like a Hee-Haw/Ray Stevens novelty tune about how do you tell a child that someone has died, with spoken verse parts to kids bewtixt the choruses -- is country for sure. (Now, though, without those Bators cuts, I'm less sure that the Black Lips album is their best one ever. But it's still really good.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:45 (seventeen years ago)

Trace Adkins "I Got My Game On" -- He's wearing his Armani suit, flashing his platinum card, going to the ballet, impressing ladies, but I'm not sure why. Can't tell if the lyrics are making fun of the protagonist or not. Some semblance of a not-horrible rock riff comes in a couple times past the 3/4 mark, but otherwise, there's not much of a hook. So: no "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk," or "Swing" even. And half-assed enough that it doesn't kill my theory that Trace is better when he's sincere (in "Stubborn Man," say, or the great "I'm Tryin'") than when he's trying to have fun, which he is merely competent at.

xhuxk, Thursday, 16 August 2007 12:08 (seventeen years ago)

("The Stubborn One", I mean. About his grandad.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 16 August 2007 12:09 (seventeen years ago)

Also, since the song's now been brought up, my review of "Love's The Only House" can be found here:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0010,eddy,13072,22.html

xhuxk, Thursday, 16 August 2007 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

Hi, Frank, I've been reading your last couple of columns. Considering what you get from Ashlee, I wonder if you like The Magic Numbers? What I just wrote about them doesn't come out til next week, but I'll say now that they're equally obsessed with poposcopic delvings into relationships--compared to Mamas And Papas, or I'd suggest a scruffier ABBA, who play their own instruments, which isn't nec. a good thing, except when The Magic Numbers do it (they also dig Guns N Roses, Leonard Cohen, Guy Clark, and their sometime gigmate, Brian Wilson). Studied their F.Mac, their Smith (or was it A Group Called Smith), prob their Howard Tate, or anyway there's a bouncey, bluesy thing, like his pre-Joplin "Piece Of My Heart," esp. on their s/t debut. The 2006 Those The Brokes (sic) just got a US release, with a couple new tracks, incl an unlisted that starts like "Holding Back The Years," but then goes its own way. Both albums have some downhome Eurocountry, which is part of the scruffier (and better-fed) ABBA reference.

dow, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

Am listening to Candie Payne again. Startling presence to her singing, but she stills seems trapped behind glass - as do Neko Case and Jenny Lewis and Nicole Atkins and any number of strong-voiced singers I end up classifying as "indie" or "alt" in some way. This is not a very useful thing to say, as it doesn't explain why I feel they're trapped behind glass, except it's a Kogan cliché to say such things about indie and alt. But I'm not saying this because they're indie or alt. Rather I'm thinking of them as indie or alt because they're singing is the sort of thing that inspires me to say they sound trapped behind glass. In contrast, I'm now listening to Megan McCauley's "I Will Pay You To Shoot Him" (Fefe Dobson and Jena Kraus absolutely adore their dads, I've decided, compared to Megan McCauley, that is), and she seems to fall between genres - goth or heaving-bosom pop or heaving-bosom rock [I'd have had no trouble calling her rock a decade or so ago but since then a lot of rock has been run out of "rock," kind of in parallel to what happened to Xhuxk on the metal thread], anyway she loves Janis and sounds like Kelly C. and even did a track with Max 'n' Luke that she's repudiated - but she most definitely doesn't feel behind glass, and most definitely isn't indie or alt, though I really don't think there's a difference in kind between her pipes and Candie's-Neko's-Jenny's-Nicole's. Ah, and now I'm listening to Heidi Montag's blank so-what pasted-on voice singing the silly electro discopop "Body Language" and the vocals have more presence and less distance (is that the word?) than those of anyone I've mentioned in this paragraph except Kelly C. (I did not know that Heidi existed until today but apparently she is Paris-like in the way that mention of her name brings out the warmth and cuddliness in the populace; her voice is far more anonymous than Paris's, however.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 17 August 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago)

Don, I'm now listening to my one and only Magic Numbers number, "Undecided." Ms. Numbers has a slightly bruised soul timbre in her voice, not unlike Candie, which is interesting given that the Magics are playing discursive, recessive eclectic janglepop or neopop or formalist semipop or something. Anyway, they sound more recessive and less energetic than Ashlee does (but then one can say the same about 99.99% of the world's population). Pretty interesting, and it's not played gently, but it does seem to scurry away from attention, maybe 'cause there's so much going on. I'm not taking in their lyrics yet, except right off she says, "This house of cards would be a false alarm from the start," which I'm assuming is deliberately and exuberantly bad and signals a willingness to take liberties, which when done well could be great but usually isn't done well. I'm bad at concentrating on words right off, but I'm not hearing lines that casually and un-self-consciously pack in information the way Ashlee does with, "I spelled my coffee/It went all over your clothes/I gotta wear mine now." The song does seem to delve into the complication of an ambiguous situation (he may love her, he may be bullshitting her, something about him crying and waiting, and her not believing him, and she's heard it all before), no ice-axe-to-the-temple lines on the order of Ashlee's "I'm the one who's crawlin' on the ground/When you say love makes the world go 'round." The Numbers are a different species from the Her Ashness, I'd say, which means that it'll play to the coffee-table crowd (not that I shouldn't be part of that crowd and pay attention to 'em, and my hope for my Ashlee pieces is that some coffee-tablers would to their surprise recognize themselves in this pop phenom girl).

Mira Craig just came up on the playbox, singing, "I'll rip your head off if I get mad: I'm obese!"

(Er, she actually says "I'm a beast," and I'd be surprised if she were obese, though I've never seen a picture.)

Ah, now an Ashlee B-side, "Now you know what it feels like to bite your tongue/Now you know what it feels like to be the one/Who walks around with knots in his stomach/I've been there, and I've done it/And now you know what it feels like to always be afraid/Of everything you wanted to say/Who's sorry now, who's sorry now, WHO'S SORRY NOW?" Not ambivalent/ambiguous this time. "All this time I've been saying I'm sorry; but why should I be sorry for all of your mistakes?"

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 18 August 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago)

FYI, my two new Ashlee pieces. I like the second half of the first and the first half of the second. The second refers to country lyric writing, differentiating Ashlee's use of detail from country's use of detail, giving an oversimplistic account of the latter.

The Rules Of The Game No. 10: Embracing The Ashlee Whirlpool

The Rules Of The Game No. 11: Toothpaste And Coffee

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 18 August 2007 00:31 (seventeen years ago)

"they're singing" should be "their singin," "spelled my coffee" should be "spilled my coffee," etc.

c-o-f-f-e-e

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 18 August 2007 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

First impressions of this year's Travis Tritt album: I've been saying that in general he's good doing Southern rock, all over the place (good-to-terrible) doing contemporary rock-pop country, and when he's mushy I gag and he usually gets a hit. The first two thirds somewhat reverses the pattern: the Richard Marx cover is good and fun and the choral singers give it a rush, though it doesn't quite hit the home room; the mush gets extra warmth and richness from his old-hewn bluesy voice; whereas when the rhythms veer towards rock and blues, weariness besets my heart. Finally around track nine he starts with some blues-based passion that's actually good, finally ends with a 12-bar ripper that almost justifies its length, and a couple tracks preceding it he does a slow scorcher - "Should've Listened" - that reminds me of why I got excited about him in the first place.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 19 August 2007 00:16 (seventeen years ago)

OK, now let's see how my Tritt opinions stack up with Xhuxk's. The musher that I quite like is "What If Love Hangs On," the rub-one-out number would've been OK if it hadn't held its gospel climax for six hours, "The Storm" outlasts its passion by about as long, "I Don't Know How I Got By" is serviceable mush, "I Wanna Feel Too Mush"... er, "I Wanna Feel Too Much" is better mush, "Something Stronger Than Me" is mushy angst and not bad, "The Pressure Is On" raises the pressure nicely, I didn't realize that my fave "Should've Listened" was by Nickelback (whose super-gigantic hit early in the decade was actually fairly moving, and whose super-gigantic hit last year made me want to turn off the radio, but now I suppose I ought to pay Nickelback actual attention, something I've never previously had the urge to do), "High Time For Gettin' Down" is good boogie lite ("hey senorita there's a lonely margarita with your name on it"), "Doesn't The Good Outweigh the Bad" is by Richard Marx and is definitely outweighed by "You Never Take Me Dancin'." (These are initial reactions, mind you.)

Think My Honky-Tonk History had more sparkle in its sparkling moments and more dark agony in its great moments of agony, and worse mush, though I'd have to relisten to confirm.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 19 August 2007 01:05 (seventeen years ago)

This guy's horny Western Gothic obsessions have a lot to do with country, in his own peculiar way; the feature track is skiffle-poppier than usual, but combined with sandblasting voice (turned down a few notches)=fried ice cream etc:
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=974

dow, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

Am I the only one who didn't get that "Brand New Kind of Actress" is about Phil Spector?

Roy Kasten, Saturday, 25 August 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

"You little greasy guy, I don't care what you did, back in '65, just put the gun away, put the gun away, just put the gun, aw-a-a-ay, hey"--I think you're right! Hadn't thought specifically of him. Wish Zevon could've heard this album, it's great.

dow, Saturday, 25 August 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

that sounds like it's about the Tycoon of Teen, to me.

Found the Deadstring Bros. Silver Mountain pretty sluggish and strained Stones rip #400,001. couldn't get into it at all.

on the other hand, Red Stick Ramblers' Made in the Shade sounds great, really rocking, one of the liveliest records I've heard so far this year. Title track is about drinking bootleg whiskey.

Choice cut on a record that has something to do with country, at least this song you could hear Faith Hill doing maybe: Chuck Prophet's "Small Town Girl" on Soap and Water. I'm waiting to get a copy of the Kelly Willis (I heard it at the record store in N-ville one afternoon, most of it), which Prophet produced. Anyway, Prophet's is a good calibrated pop record with some cool chord changes...

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 25 August 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago)

Red Stick Ramblers' Made in the Shade sounds great, really rocking

Yeah, I've been playing this a lot, too. Fave tracks so far are probably the title cut (cajun rockabilly style about rock critic Arsenio Orteza's hometown Opelousas, LA); Hoagy Carmichael-style "Don't Cry Baby"; and almost-ten-minute country jazz jam "The Smeckled Suite." (There are a couple thin-sounding ballads, though -- "Unsentimental," for instance).

http://www.redstickramblers.com/

Also been liking the new Lori McKenna Unglamorous (expected it to be an NPR-ready demo-tape-like thing where I'd wish Faith Hill was singing all the songs, but "I Know You," "Unglamorous," and "Written Permission" have more energy than I would have guessed); new Trikont German import comp Motel Lovers: Southern Soul From the Chitlin Circuit (maybe my album of the year, if it counts -- I'll go into detail about it someday soon probably); couple-year-old Trikont German import comp Krazy Kats: Louisiana Swamp Pop + Rock (might go into detail about this sometime too); new Banda Pequenos Musical album on Fonovisa (pretty when they're slow but best when they speed up and get crazy, for instance in "Nana Con Medda" which starts out like a regional Mex version of "Conga" by the Miami Sound Machine -- I like this better than the Los Rieloros or El Tri or Grupo Extermindor albums that came in the same Fonovisa package. I already have a couple good Exterminador albums, but to me they sound pretty interchangeable; not sure how many I need to keep).

Initial quick tracking through a few cuts of Ryan Bingham's border-Tex swamp-country songster set Mescalito on Lost Highway suggested promising things as well. Live Billy Joe Shaver bored me, though (probably I need to get a best-of by him in his prime, if such a thing exists); leaning toward not liking Jason Meadows album much though keeping my ears open; haven't put on Jeff Coffey yet (not even sure if he's country, but he looks country -- press bio suggests more soft hard rock singer-songwriter with some distant Hootie and Bad Company and possibly boy-band connection though); Alan Jackson 16 Biggest Hits looks fairly useful and keepable judging from its fairly modest and nicely obvious track listing (what I need since I never kept any of his albums until the last one).

some links:

ryan bingham

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=62873462

banda pequenos musical

http://bandapequenosmusical.com/

motel lovers

https://lightintheattic.net/buy/item.php?product_id=414&c_id=7&page=1

krazy kats

https://lightintheattic.net/buy/item.php?product_id=296&c_id=7&page=6

lori mckenna

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=34915393

xhuxk, Saturday, 25 August 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago)

Jeff Coffey (haven't listened to a note of him, yet; he may well stink, but I kinda like the CD cover):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=1928843

Jason Meadows (a snooze so far but who knows):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=75798815

xhuxk, Saturday, 25 August 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago)

xhuxx, do you still play tapes? I could dub you a set from this radio show called Bayou Boogie, used to come on down hyah, mebbe still does in some markets.

dow, Saturday, 25 August 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago)

Nah -- Metal Mike and Scott both have sent me a couple cassettes in the last couple years, but I don't have a not-in-storage tape player at the moment, sadly. (Thanks, though!)

xhuxk, Saturday, 25 August 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

Am I the only one who didn't get that "Brand New Kind of Actress" is about Phil Spector?

Only heard it once and paid no attention to the words. Will pay attention in the future. I just naturally assume that everything is about Lindsay or Britney.

So, I've listened to the Isbell once, like "Actress," was thinking through track three or so that Xhuxk was wrong to be so dismissive, though obviously Jason needs to fire himself as a singer and get someone who can actually project something, anything (such as music, meaning, personality). But by track seven a great weariness had settled upon the landscape: nutrients were fleeing the soil, flowers were crawling down into their stems, and I had to will myself not to turn the thing off. Maybe I'll try it on random shuffle next time (if there is a next time).

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 26 August 2007 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

Also listened to Voices From The Siren Nation, a compilation to benefit the Siren Nation Women's Music & Art Festival, all performers on the alb from Portland. Found something to like on pretty much every track, despite my obviously not being the target audience and still thinking that the sound could have used some more head-butting and butt-kicking (somewhat provided by chart-toppers-in-England the Gossip). I liked some of the wanderingly poetic folky singer-songwriter tracks, though I forget who did what. My reason for bringing it up here, though, is that several tracks - e.g., Flat Mountain Girls' "Meeting In The Air" and Ashleigh Flynn's "Deep River Hollow," both good, are old-timey country womened up along the lines of Jan Bell. Neither has close to the mad-eyed energy and inventiveness of, say, the Holy Modal Rounders, but each does have the sense of, We're Doing Old Country Which Means We Can Sound Like Zonkers. Is this now a common trend in women's music?

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 26 August 2007 02:43 (seventeen years ago)

Album I left out of my list above that I've been listening to in the past couple weeks: American Beat reissue of John Anderson's self-titled debut album from 1980. Christgau (who correctly said in his review that its second half wasn't as good as its first, but incorrectly decided that that meant the album was only worth a B+) named "She Just Started Liking Cheating Songs" as one of his top ten singles that year, and it's definitely really good, but there are three songs I like even more: "Havin' Hard Times" (gloomy old-timey almost-folk about toiling in the mines and on the line); "Shoot Low Sheriff" (crazed rockabilly about John fighting the law and the law winning); and "1959" (another real sad one where a war vet keeps going back and reading an old letter from a girl who once upon a time loved him.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 26 August 2007 03:04 (seventeen years ago)

You guys are so wrong about Jason. His voice is suavely poignant, like Ronnie Van Zant's he's got hooks and tunes and bounce and heft (cranks guitar, well-aimed piano)piano)deft lyrics, the more I listen and think about them. Mischief and mercy in his tales, plausibly so. I think Van Zant might've done stuff like this if he'd lived a few years longer, maybe gotten into Zevon (but no "Carmelita"-type tearjerking here). Right now, I'm listening to songs from Rachel Herrington's The Bootlegger's Daughter: nice spooky midnight journeys up the river, and she sounds a bit like Emmylou. She's in the studio (on a usually boring public radio show, River City Folk, but this one's worth checking their archive for), so don't know how her own studio might sound, but here she does fine with just her own rhythm guitar and a mandolinist, who's pretty catchy, not fluttery. Album's on rachelherrington.net and CDBaby, she's saying now.

dow, Sunday, 26 August 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/flatmountaingirls

(Not all that zonkered, actually, but does have a casual giddiness.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 26 August 2007 03:14 (seventeen years ago)

TS:

Red Stick Ramblers "Katrina" vs. Black Lips "Katrina"

(not sure which one I prefer myself -- they both sound pretty good.)

In another interesting Red Stick coincidence, Krazy Kats: Louisiana Swamp Pop + Rock also has two songs about Opelousas, LA. Which is weird, since before these two albums, I'm not sure if I've ever heard a song about Opelousas in my entire life.

Two more notable things nobody here has talked about yet: (1) Garth Brooks is going to cover Huey Lewis's "Workin' For A Livin'" (with Huey's help) on his new best-of collection; (2) Rissi Palmer this week became the first African-American female to place a single on Billboard's country chart in 20 years. (Haven't heard her yet myself; album's due in October, and she is listenable to on myspace now):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=45153100

Speaking of African-American female country singers, the new Miko Marks CD sadly didn't sink in with me like her previous one Freeway Bound did, but I'm still rooting for her; here's the cdbaby link:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/mikomarks2

xhuxk, Sunday, 26 August 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

man, the Trikont soul comp looks great--Mel Waiters! In the same general vein (he was on another fine soul comp from a few years back: Chitlin Circuit Soul, and he died on Aug. 21, 2005), Sterling Harrison, whose posthumous South of the Snooty Fox reveals him as a way-better-'n'-average soul singer with interesting taste in material, including Jerry Ragovoy's "Ain't Nobody Home" and Bobby Womack and Jim Ford's "Surprise, Surprise" and Tom Waits' "House Where Nobody Lives" and my favorite, one called "Don't Mess with My Money." Maybe the rather minimal production (done to reproduce SH's club sound) doesn't always breathe, but I like this fine. Hacktone does some nice stuff--the Arthur Alexander reissue they just put out is great, great singer, check out his Sound Stage 7 stuff sometime from the late '60s.

I remember McKenna from her "Bible Song" on Sara's Real Fine. I just got the CD Friday, came with lotsa press materials including a Paste feature on Lori. She seems real sensible and maybe Nashville has done her up right.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 26 August 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago)

xp So has anybody ever heard Dona Mason, who was the last African-American female to chart, with "Green Eyes (Cryin' Those Blue Tears)" in 1987? I don't think I've ever even heard of her before, and I'm finding basically nothing else on the Internet about her. I wonder if she ever recorded a whole album.

xhuxk, Sunday, 26 August 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

Google shows an LP, Danny Davis Nashville Brass & Dona Mason, on a couple sites, all I've seen so far.

dow, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

Decided, ultimatley, that Banda Pequenos Musical just have too high a slow-song-to-fast-song ratio to hold my attention, and despite some intermittently interesting incorporation of what sound like reggae and salsa rhythms into the regional Mexicanness, the slow songs are just too indistintive to hold my attention. (Frank or Matt, correct me if I'm wrong, but originally didn't banda groups do almost all uptempo songs? If so, when did that change? Or did the definition of the genre just get wider?)

xhuxk, Sunday, 26 August 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

For faster banda, try Jenni Rivera or Banda El Recodo (especially earlier stuff); the influence of Los Tigres del Norte, Intocable, and other ranchera/norteño groups has spread into banda because...and this should not be a surprise to you...Everyone Wants A Power Ballad Radio Smash!

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

Banda El Recodo's earlier stuff is like speed-metal: serious BPM, horn and woodwind lines curling all over each other, drummers basically playing 2/4 thrash beats except on one snare drum.

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:42 (seventeen years ago)

Lori McKenna's Unglamorous. I like the relatively bare-boned arrangements and the sentiments expressed, and one pretty great drinking song. She does well with resignation, "just one coffee." The arrangements build nicely. What I don't much like one way or another is her voice, which sounds just defeated to me, tired. Not much of a voice, and the words are good while the music is pretty standard-issue. So I dunno, canny enough. It's just not a voice I want to spend much time with. On the other hand, it struck me that she's about as good at her territory of domesticity as Amy Rigby is at hers of what I guess is a hipper nursery. Rigby doesn't sing any better, but Rigby has something of a broader palette as a creator of music. So I give it a B-plus, and glad she got a chance to make her record. I mean I like it when she sings about how she can fall in love in the afternoon with the TV blaring in the next room, but as usual, I find it just another singer-songwriter moment done up in the Nashville fashion by people who just are not interested in music very much. And which means I like her.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 27 August 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago)

listened to Garth Brooks' "More than a Memory," from his forthcoming Ultimate Hits. Easily the best Elton John record in many a moon. Really excellent dark-night-of-the-soul song, strings, horns, mid-tempo 4/4 piano. Canny, too, because this song mentions "dialing 6 numbers" (to get the woman he can't get out of his head, and the conceit of the song is that it really is just a memory, but Garth is so goddamned sensitive and feels everything so much that it's physical, man, more than a memory. So friends tell him he must get on with his life.). Also, as usual he makes it universal, "you look like hell but you just don't care," he says, and it's got a nice curling little guitar cry as the piano kicks in, and at the end he whispers "it's gonna take some time but I'll forget," but not for 3:25. Just excellent, well-sung, very high-quality stuff with interesting overtones, and I mean it's about as good as the almost-best stuff on Tumbleweeds Connexion or Piano Player Cross the Pond or whatever those Elton records were, which I love. Garth's good.

Sharon agrees with me on Lori McKenna ("depressing") but it actually is good and a valuable document, and I enjoy it in small doses. She should make a duets record like the one John Prine did with Iris DeMent and all them, about marriage. Or like the George Tammy stuff I've been listening to up here. Butane Variations is this weird little package, New Yorkers doing the inevitable recasting of Notorious Byrd Brothers, overtly experimental country-rock and some very nice textures and shifts and pedal steels and odd noises, and serviceable singing. Nice enough, reminds me of American Primitive, by Warm in the Willows (?) was it, an Athens, Ga. group? Warm in the Water? Anyway, they sounded like Butane, also freaky-folk experimental with pop overtones.

New Robert Plant and Alison Krauss looks interesting, they're doing Gene Clark and it looks like the Everly's "Gone, Gone, Gone."

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 27 August 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

obviously, that's the George AND Tammy stuff. Nice piece in No Depression on Lloyd Green, the pedal steel guy who spruced up all those Little Darlin' sessions in the '60s. Pretty cool, Lloyd recounts how Faron Young chastisted him for his (to Faron) not appropriately first-rate pedal steel, when Lloyd started out with Faron. Faron says something like, "This makes the great Faron Young very unhappy, son." There's a comp of the Little Darlin' stuff, which is mostly great what I've heard, my buddy David Duncan got at the Country Music Hall of Fame gift shop, which I also need to get myself. Anyway, as Lloyd says in the ND piece, proper Nashville looked down at its nose at the Little Darlin' recordings when they were being made, but they sound spare and fresh, at least to me, these days.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 27 August 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

Warm in the Wake, that's it.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 27 August 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago)

"Warm in the Wake" sounds like "Somebody Peed in the Pool".

My fave country of the year is still, unsurprisingly, Los Tigres del Norte. A great album.

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 27 August 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

oooh! Some truth in that, especially when the winsome little voice gets a little too cozy with the "deep" lyrics. But I do like some of the keyboardiness, esp. as it trundles away from vocals. Rec to those who like Tea Leaf Green's Taught To Be Proud, although it's not as good (or is it? Give 'em a ride on your CD carousel, Unca xhuxx!) Haven't played it lately, but I think Pablo's Half The Time might be a better off-Broadway-rehearsal-pianist-spins-a-stoned-indian-summer-Sunday-in-the-park (early 70s style, poised to crush the young Billy Joel--only ever seen as a promo in the 99c bin ca. '73, and stuck in my back room ever since)(actually, it just came out, but got that kind of sound)

dow, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 00:09 (seventeen years ago)

(some truth to Warm In The Wake/Peeing In The Pool, that is.) Right now, expanded Wattstax is playing Aztec soccer with my skull and soul. Several sets by certain artists (no medleys, no fades, no fixes in the mix, sounds like). Staples Singers get the longest set, but even if they just did this version of "I'll Take You There," be the whole Wattstax at once (well, except for Richard Pryor). Also, remember when you wrote "The Real Black Metal," xhuxx, and I asked you what the Rance Allen Group might be like, and you didn't know either. Sure wish I'd checked 'em out, they're the other genius set here, with only two songs, like Black Album-era Prince, in '72, though. "In 1972, we know what to do", says Carla Thomas, who also has a good-to-great set, Rufus Thomas kills, so do the (re-tooling) Bar-Kays and Emotions (Isaac Hayes, Johnny Taylor,get one awesome track each several lesser lights get one each as well)(more obscure, but not nec less talented: Deborah Manning gets this moment, before bizzed and back to being a secretary). Not neurotic enough to be country, at least not the good kind, but.

dow, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago)

The first Stax comps I ever owned were three LPs on Fantasy that had most of the great stuff, the post-'68 material all mixed in with the Otis-era music. Rance Allen are pretty good, gospel with rock-band dynamics. I didn't know that Isaac Hayes had a stroke last year; a recent account of a Stax show says that he's not in very sharp shape, which is sad. I finally got the finished copy of Sarah Johns' debut. I think it's as good as Lori McKenna's major-production debut, for sure.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago)

yeah this new wattstax is real nice, but they should have included more isaac hayes because just one song is bullshit, also yeah any reminder that mavis staples was patti labelle before labelle even labelle'd is important

i dont think i am getting any more country cds at all which is fine by me but there are countrified moments from this year's umphrey's mcgee album that are really nice for a non-country jam band -- yeah, i decided to not hate jam bands anymore, the final frontier --, they are really good and somewhat adventurous as these things go

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

Which Mcgee are you referring to? I got something with a bunch of rarities, I'll have to dig it up.They frustrate me a lot, but real good sometimes. The Rance Allen incandescence may be a fluke, for all I know (in the booklet, Rance says he's never performed that first song before or since.) Yeah, the booklet also mentions technical problems, so some recordings were unusable, but doesn't explain why so little Johnny and Isaac on there (mentions that they did do sets, not just one song each). Maybe saving the rest for live albums on each artist, I hope. Isaac was so great live in the Respect Yourself doc on PBS(DVD out soon, with bonus reunion footage, h'mm). Made me wonder if he and Miles Davis weren't listening to each other quite a bit at that point. Isaac just flamed out didn't he? Not that I really kept up, hope I'm wrong about that.

dow, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago)

Posted this over on rolling teenpop:

But anyway, JORDIN SPARKS. Yes, I was rooting for her, to the extent I was rooting for anybody this year. So, "Tattoo," I like the singing quite well, it combines sweetness and heft; song is like Faith Hill pop country but prettier, no big fuss to it, but I wish it had some hook or twist; nothing about it is lodging in my brain after it's gone, at least not yet. And nothing in it approaches the mammoth emotion she got out of "I Who Have Nothing" last March on Idol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFd39ogKITE)(though I don't suppose it's trying for that).

("Tattoo" not nearly as good as the Britney or rough-draft Ashlee tracks that leaked yesterday, but I can't claim that either of those are Faith Hill pop country, so won't talk about them here.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 31 August 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

Strait, Paisley Lead In Country Awards
Singers Receive 5 Nominations

Associated Press
Friday, August 31, 2007; C05

NASHVILLE, Aug. 30

George Strait, who had his 55th No. 1 single this year and was recently inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame, returned Thursday to the Country Music Association Awards with top nominations including entertainer and male vocalist of the year.

Strait and Brad Paisley led with five nominations each. Strait also was named for musical event of the year, for a performance with Jimmy Buffett and Alan Jackson; album of the year for "It Just Comes Natural"; and single of the year for "Wrapped," his 55th No. 1 single.

Paisley is nominated for entertainer, male vocalist, his album "5th Gear," best single for "Ticks," and best music video with "Online."

Kenny Chesney, Rascal Flatts and Keith Urban rounded out the entertainer of the year category. CMA industry members have nominated only male entertainers of the year since the Dixie Chicks got a nod in 2001.

The Chicks, who have had a troubled relationship with the country industry since Natalie Maines's derogatory comments about President Bush in 2003, got their first nomination since then for best vocal group.

Chesney picked up three other nominations, for male vocalist, video for "You Save Me," and vocal performance with Tracy Lawrence and Tim McGraw.

"And I've known Tracy and Tim practically since I got to Nashville," Chesney said in a release. "Those old boys struggled with me, took off before me and never forgot who their friends were."

Josh Turner joined Chesney, Paisley, Strait and Urban with nominations for male vocalist of the year.

Bluegrass star Alison Krauss was nominated for female vocalist of the year, along with Miranda Lambert, Martina McBride, Reba McEntire and "American Idol" winner Carrie Underwood.

The top nominations were announced on ABC's "Good Morning America" by Sara Evans and Sugarland's Kristian Bush and Jennifer Nettles. The rest were announced at Nashville's Sommet Center by duo Montgomery Gentry and 17-year-old Taylor Swift, who was nominated for the Horizon Award for new artists.

curmudgeon, Friday, 31 August 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

I am starting to like this new Sara Evans single, "As If." It may be the least country sounding thing she's ever recorded, and that's saying something, but the transitions in and out of the chorus really hook me.

Roy Kasten, Friday, 31 August 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

So I went through the current Top 60 Hot Country Songs chart in Billboard and pulled out CDs I could find in my apartment that had songs included on the chart on them, and tried to listen to them all with fresh ears, and this is the order in which I liked them. Some definite surprises here (for instance, I would have thought Miranda and and Blake and Ingram and Urban and Van Zant and Toby would've finished higher). Anyway, here goes; Taylor Swift was pretty clearly the winner and Jason Michael Caroll and Billy Ray Cyrus and Trace Adkins (the only songs here I actively dislike) clearly the losers, but otherwise it's really close, so the rest could conceivably reverse tomorrow if I listened again (or as I live with Rissi Palmer and Brooks & Dunn and Billy Ray more, or obviously as I hear new songs by people like Tim McGraw and Carrie Underwood and Kenny Chesney and Flynville Train and Gary Allan and Whiskey Falls and Little Big Town and Crossin Dixin and Danielle Peck and Joe Dee Messina and Keith Anderson and Leann Rimes -- and Mark Chestnut, who is now on the chart now with a Charlie Rich cover, "Rollin' With the Flow" by the way -- that I still haven't), but here's how they stood today:

1. Taylor Swift - Our Song
2. Pat Green - Wayback Texas
3. Rissi Palmer - Country Girl
4. Dierks Bentley - Free And Easy (Down the Road I Go)
5. Miranda Lambert - Famous In A Small Town
6. Big & Rich - Between Raisin' Hell and Amazing Grace
7. Sarah Johns - The One In The Middle
8. Montgomery Gentry - What Do Ya Think About That
9. Rodney Atkins - These Are My People
10. Van Zant - Goes Down Easy
11. Jack Ingram - Measure Of A Man
12. Keith Urban - I Told You So
13. Travis Tritt - You Never Take Me Dancing
14. Brooks & Dunn - Proud Of The House We Built
15. Luke Bryan - All My Friends Say
16. Blake Shelton - The More I Drink
17. Toby Keith - Love Me If You Can
18. Keith Urban - Everybody
19. Trace Adkins - I Got My Game On
20. Jason Michael Caroll - Livin' Our Love Song
21. Billy Ray Cyrus - Ready Set Don't Go

xhuxk, Saturday, 1 September 2007 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

(I just realized I missed "Online" by Brad Paisley, which would probably finish somewhere between 15 and 18 on the list above. May have missed others, too. Judging from the one time I heard "Heaven, Heartache and the Power of Love" by Trisha Yearwood, it would likely finish pretty close to where "Online" would.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 1 September 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago)

Entertainment Weekly's making a big deal about Springsteen going to see Kenny Chesney. Also, in the EW review of Chesney's latest it is noted that Chesney chose songs with more introspective lyrics(did not write much of any himself on this one, fwiw) but they still sound like what he has offered in the past. Haven't heard it yet, and have never been that excited about what he has offered in the past.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 1 September 2007 14:05 (seventeen years ago)

My favorite Chesney albums are When The Sun Goes Down and No Shirt No Shoes No Problems, at least of the ones I've heard, but I have to say that I've suprised myself by not making a concerted attempt to keep up with him in the past couple years. Which might mean I don't like him as much as I thought I did. Or maybe he's just the kind of guy for whom a couple LPs will always be sufficient. (My hunch, though, is that he might be spinning wheels. Weren't "introspective lyrics" the concept behind Be As You Are: Songs From An Old Blue Chair a couple years ago? Liked that one, but it went to the storage bin a while ago, and I haven't missed it.)

Brooks & Dunn sound like they might be spinning wheels on their new one, too. I tend to like it more so far when they toss in some Stones/blues riffs ("Chance of a Lifetime"); "Drunk on Love," which does a sort of Blonde on Blonde/Georgia Satellites "Keep Your Hands To Yourself" talking thing, might be my favorite. But those sorta sounds aren't new for them, and they were more exciting doing them back on Red Dirt Road or maybe even earlier. "American Dreamer" (with namedrops of Merle, Martin Luther King, Neil Armstrong, vietnam soldiers praying for peaces while cleaning their weapons) is very late Bellamy Brothers, and not so great at it. "Cowboy Town" starts out sounding kinda Celtic. The rest....I dunno yet. (By the way, even though I didn't rank it super high on the list I just made, I liked the Celtic/funk mixture of Urban's "I Told You So" when I went back to listen to it last night. I guess one thing I might say about Urban is that I generally like the sound and production and guitars on his records, but his songs still rarely stick with me much, for some reason.)

Given how meh the rest of the Rissi Palmer album is sounding to me so far, I'm already wondering whether I overrated "Country Girl" on the list above. But listening to the tune last night, I was feeling a really excellent soul-(almost disco)-country dance groove, maybe worthy of KT Oslin or Terri Gibbs. (And okay, it just came on again, and it's sounding real good -- the rhythm is totally propulsive. But now I'm realizing that what it really reminds me of is some of the funkier country grooves on Shannon Brown's debut album a couple years ago. Album-wide, though, Rissi seems more bland than Shannon did.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 1 September 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago)

I like Suzy Bogguss' "Rosie the Riveter" on Song of America--I think I like that better than Elizabeth Cook doing the Louvin Brothers' "Great Atomic Power." So far, the Bogguss Sweet Dangerisn't killing me but she navigates the sophisticated whatever it is those songs are ("If You Leave Me Now," yeesh). At the same time, she sounds maybe recessive and even a bit dazed on some of this, which might be the point. And heck, she doesn't sound all that out of place on the nine millionth lite-bossa attempt by a North American, "Everything."

Brooks and Dunn's Cowboy Town, which amused Sharon fifteen seconds into "Cowboy Town" and "God Must Be Busy" made her laugh at the very title. But actually, "Put a Girl in It" is pretty good and ditto the fake tension of the intro to "Johnny Cash Junkie (Buck Owens Freak). "You ain't livin' a good life until you put a girl in it," they sing on "Put a Girl," and plumping for girls instead of cold beer and a nice pair of skis and, even, another one a God's creations, a great sunset, is real fun. Somehow we were talking about how some guys try to date really Christian girls and it can be problematic, so I think there should be a song called "Buddy, Jesus Got There First," which could be racy. Anyway, I think I like Cowboy Town and they show real feeling for stoners on "Ballad of Jerry Jeff Walker." "Hey, Kix, that was '76," RD sings...so, feeling for nostalgia too.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 1 September 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago)

thought I'd mention that I got to interview Bettye LaVette this week. Of all the people I've ever interviewed, she was right at the top, in terms of honesty and complete absence of pretense. I suppose other artists admit to a crippling jealousy and resentment at the success of others, but Ms. LaVette came right out and said it. Obviously, Atlantic's decision in 1972 to not release Child of the Seventies hurt her. Listening to that one, damned if I can figure out why it didn't get out there. Perhaps the harshness of her vocal approach put off the execs. It was cut not at FAME in Muscle Shoals, as some reviewers seem to think, but at Muscle Shoals Sound in Sheffield. (She cut her new one at FAME; Muscle Shoals Sound got sold as part of the sale of the publishing associated with that studio; by the time it was sold in '05, the studio was kinda, not worthless, but not worth all that much.) Anyway, it's hard for me not to admire someone who had a hit at 15 and then saw it all get taken away (Johnnie Mae Matthews, who has two cuts on this excellent 2-disc Blue Rock label comp I have, and appears on various Detroit-centric mixes of '60s r&b, took all BL's money, LaVette said.) And then went into the trenches, singing standards at places like New Orleans' Absinthe Bar in the early '80s, when even the French didn't care about her. Very admirable, and I think her new The Scene of the Crime is a brilliant record, definitely one of my ten best of year so far.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 1 September 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago)

xp More Saturday morning updates, of less chartbound stuff:

LORRI MCKENNA -- Yeah, I overrated her; she's an NPR folkie after all, and Amy Rigby is probably a good comparison, though I think I like the production on Lorri's record more, not that I have any Amy albums around anymore to compare it to. Lorri's definitely got her moments, though -- Even the Suzanne Vega/Natalie Merchant/Ani Difranco type spinach of "Confetti" is tolerable. But I have to say, for someone who is considered such a quality songwriter, it's not like any lines are particularly reaching out and grabbing me, either. So I guess I'll wait and see which songs Faith Hill covers after all.

RYAN BINGHAM -- Totally overrated this guy when I gave him my first cursory listen (noted above) last week. Mostly his album just sounds really dreary and serious and stodgy; I'll trust what I said about initially noticing some moments of swamp-funk, but I don't have the energy to figure out where they are anymore. Sounds like a guy who worships '00s Bruce and Dylan, never a great sign.

JEFF COFFEY -- Not country, unless everybody who sometimes sounds like Bryan Adams and John Waite counts as country these days. And he doesn't sound like Adams or Waite enough, though "Ordinary" is fairly excellent crunchy hard pop (which actually opens with what sounds like an Offspring rip) and "Gone" has a nice guitar break and "Remember" is an okay power ballad. And it's considerate of him that he limited his album to just nine tracks (with just eight songs, since track nine is an unplugged version of one of the earlier ones.) But across the board he sounds too Clear Channel-mushy too often, for my ears. (George might like okay; I dunno. I definitely recommend "Ordinary," though.)

RED STICK RAMBLERS -- Not much more to say about this, but it's a solid album, even if they do slip into Lyle Lovett territory on occasion. "Tes Parents Ne Veulent Plus Me Voir" is another good country jazz jam, six minutes long. "Les Oiseaux Vont Chanter" starts out Celtic; is that rare in cajun music? (Assuming these guys actually count as cajun; they're self-conscious eclectics, is what they are.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 1 September 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago)

BLUE CHEER - Believe it or not, their new album What Doesn't Kill You..., which I like a lot but is generally as heavy as you'd hope, actually has a country song on it -- Or at least a country-Stones (turning into Allmans maybe) song, like something Black Angel would do: "Young Lions In Paradise," which checks in at 6:45, and it's real good. Otherwise at least two songs (including the 9:26 pachyderm-blooze stomp closer "No Relief") mention gypsys, and at least one "Just A Little Bit (Redux)" has a bassline that sounds like "Cool Jerk" as done by Grand Funk Railroad (or perhaps Blue Cheer).

M.I.A. -- This has nothing to do with country, I don't think, but I have to get this off my chest anyway, and I don't feel like wading throught 4,000 posts on a thread about nothing else but this album: It's a good record, but I don't think it's nearly as good as her first one, or the mix CD that preceded her first one for that matter. Sometimes there are cool wacky sounds ("Bird Flu," which a lot of people inexplicably love as a single, is nothing but cool wacky songs, with no song I can discern attached to speak of, and "Paper Planes," which if I remember right is counted as another single, has cash registers like Pink Floyd's "Money" or something), so that's nice. But I'm not hearing many mind-blowing hooks on the new one. "Come Around" is okay until Timbaland (who I usually like) comes in, but I'm not hearing much M.I.A. personality in it. My two favorite tracks might be the two most conventionally post-Boney M/Euro Asia/world-pop ones (whatever that means) -- "Jimmy" which has a real Bollywood beauty to it, and "XR2." I have a feeling nobody agrees with me on that; actually, I'm not even sure what the consensus is, since I haven't been paying attention to the discussion. Either way, no way is this one gonna make my top ten this year.

xhuxk, Saturday, 1 September 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago)

I meant:

"Bird Flu"...is nothing but cool wacky sounds

xhuxk, Saturday, 1 September 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

they show real feeling for stoners on "Ballad of Jerry Jeff Walker." "Hey, Kix, that was '76," RD sings...so, feeling for nostalgia too.

Okay, yeah, I'd missed this one, and it's indeed great. And I'm just now noticing "Drop In The Bucket"'s fast country funk. So the the new B&D CD may well be more fun than I'd thought. Which is good.

xhuxk, Saturday, 1 September 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, the title hook of "Drop In The Bucket" sounds a lot like the one in "Coconut" by Nilsson.

xhuxk, Saturday, 1 September 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

I think Lori McKenna's might be one of the most overhyped of the year. And I don't mean that in a spiteful way; she most certainly deserves her time in the spotlight and the various profiles I've read on her paint her as a really grounded, nice person. still, the best record from a person in the Boston area is Sara Borges', and yeah, I probably overrated that one just a bit. As I think I said upthread, seeing her live--man, she holds her own with anyone singing in Nashville, and makes it look easy. what I get from Borges is that she's not revealing herself at all (which of course reveals plenty right there), so her story doesn't make for such good copy as Lori's (about whom one might ask: what is she revealing?). but Lori's drinking song is almost as good as Gautheier's "I Drink."

finally got a copy of the new Tritt. the mechanized-sounding drumbeats on track one and the percussive organ licks are cool, and he moans to slide like Sun Apartment the great delta bluesman. "Tryin' to learn the things I thought I never had to know," and then he just moans some more. Perhaps a belated disillusionment brought on by 9/11, global warming, or perhaps just it's his woman is "impossible to please" and Travis don't like to go dancing enough. Credible as hell as a blues singer and in the press kit he makes something of being from Georgia: Nashville to the north, Missisippi delta to the west. but then it's fuckin' Diane Warren on "(I Wanna) Feel Too Much." Again, he's burnt out and wants to feel something and Diane is there for him. I'm in a place where people come to "stand up to a mountain" (interesting recent story about burnt-out or traumatized Iraq soliders who've lost buddies and have come to Colorado to climb outward bound and get right with themselves, which of course I approve of), but the reality of even a place like this is a bit more prosaic, you come out of the foothills of the front range here and it's King Sooper's supermarket and discount tobacco stores and all that in Longmont, which is totally suburban. But I kind of love Diane Warren, is the thing, she often grabs me with a chord change that's unexpected. I'm not made of stone and this isn't a bad song. Clickety-clack drums on "Doesn't the Good Outweigh the Bad," a swingin' shuffle co-written with Richard Marx for Chrissake. As with a lot of this record, it's right at the edge of hokey but really works, the effort of honest crafstmen (and what does the melody of this one echo? something very familiar) who got the blues. the strategy is, as others have pointed out, rockin' paired with reflective, and he makes it work. Two Diane Warren songs and the record works, just like Carrie Underwood's Warren-fueled debut. just listen to the way they finesse the middle section with the strings and all on "I Don't Know How I Got By." So the guy's learned something and not even Randy Jackson can fuck him up. all I want to know is, what's the writing on the shirt Travis is wearing in the photo where his eyes are closed, thinking about Diane Warren's famed veggie tofu fried chicken dinner she makes every time she grosses another hundred grand?

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 1 September 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

oh, and "Should've Listened" is one of the best limits-of-macho macho songs about how he's really not going to change but he's getting a fairly great song out of it, ever. "Where the hell's my credit card," whoops, man, you better get on the phone pronto before she cleans your ass out. and then that's got to be Charlie Daniels on fiddle on the rewrite of "The South's Gonna Do It Again," "High Time for Gettin' Down." they should've played this one on the great episode of Reno 911 I saw on tape last night, when Junior's brothers all come out to Reno and they spend the whole episode drinking beer to the drone of NASCAR (no words, just endless drone of laps) and then, when one of the drivers says something like "Had me some bad moments on the 112th lap," they all spring up to go the bathroom and Junior himself looks around and turns it over to South Park. A man has his limits for having fun and Tritt really gets it.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 1 September 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

Xhuxk, just listened to Billy Ray Cyrus "Ready, Set, Don't Go," liked it enough to say that I don't actively dislike it: warm-voiced, easy feeling. Don't know if I'd seek it out, particularly, but I don't think I'd flee it if I heard it on the radio (which I might if I ever start listening to Radio Disney again, where it's in the second-tier at 33 spins over the last seven days; several spins ahead of Rascal Flatt's "Life Is A Highway To My Vein Which Leads To A Center In My Head" (er, that's not what it's called, actually), which has been on the Disney chart for a year I think). Lyrics to "Ready, Set, Don't Go" are ambiguous enough to either be about a departing lover or a departing daughter, though the video sure makes you want to think the latter (though one might note that in real life daughter gets to live out her dreams of stardom on the same set as her dad).

If Miley Cyrus's "See You Again" is released as a single it's probably my country song of the year. For what it's worth, she co-wrote it with Antonina Armato and Tim James, the songwriting producing duo who worked with Hoku at the turn of the decade and are working with Aly & A.J. now.

Two very good "Should've" songs: Travis Tritt's "Should've Listened" and Taylor Swift's "Should've Said No." Both should've been singles (and maybe will be, but I wouldn't bet on it).

Frank Kogan, Monday, 3 September 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago)

Edd, speaking of totally suburban, have you ever been to Highlands Ranch? If not, you should ask Sharon about it. It's down near or in Douglas County, I think, but it's the Emerald City of suburbia - like ocean waves upon ocean waves of tract housing. I actually gaped when I first saw it.

I don't think I've ever been to Longmont; I'd have assumed it's suburban tracts intermixed with grazing fields, much like Arvada. Does it function as a satellite of Boulder?

Frank Kogan, Monday, 3 September 2007 03:26 (seventeen years ago)

The Ryan Bingham seems to be going for quiet intensity, and kinda gets there on tracks five through eight, at least well enough to be worth returning to in a while to see how it holds up. But the quietness sabotages him, ultimately; or maybe not the quietness, maybe just that unless you're a genius at achieving intense pressure with a couple of chords, as the Velvet Underground were in the Sixties, and Lou was on Coney Island Baby, you need to form your music into songs. Where the Bingham was working I kept wanting to pull its vamps into something truly intense, like Sheryl Crow's "It Don't Hurt" or Fleetwood Mac's "The Chain," but it never got close.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 3 September 2007 03:38 (seventeen years ago)

So, when not barbecue-hopping in Brooklyn, here's what I've actually been mostly listening to this weekend (much of which borders in country in a polka or schlager or folk or gypsy or rockabilly way):

Mostly German Old Used 45s That Metal Mike Saunders Mailed To Me

xhuxk, Monday, 3 September 2007 14:02 (seventeen years ago)

the Mostly German thread is amazing. I had to save a couple of those album covers, esp. Chicory Tip where the keyboardist is wearing that yellow helmet. I e-mailed it to one of my friends who called me howling with laughter. The Harlekin cover features what Sharon says is the world's sexiest German housewife. And yeah, Frank, we've been to Highlands Ranch when I lived here in the early '00s. As for Longmont, it's pretty much suburban, but with some open space here and there. It is definitely a satellite town for Boulder--for the people who probably work there but can't afford to live in the People's Republic. The most charming place near here is a one-square-mile town called Hygiene, named for a TB clinic that was once there (the building still is). Farms, small tracts of land and nice people; it was once a stop for getting the sandstone cut in the Lyons area to market in Denver. Just lovely. Lyons is the closest place to us and it's a really interesting little tourist town with a joint called Oskar Blues, which we had visited back in 2000 or 2001. They make one of the best beers I've ever had--Old Chub Scottish Style Ale, which comes in a can and which is plain delicious. Speaking of sandstone: apparently, new rules for registering legal aliens who have been coming here for years to cut the sandstone (hard work) are making it impossible to get the labor force necessary to do this work, which the locals don't or won't do. Something to do with the total number of workers allowed in without having them go thru the registration process again; they must return home (to Mexico) after the end of the season. There's a country song right there.

Only thing I listened to over the long weekend was the new Birdie Busch. Penny Arcade. I liked her first, loopy and surprisingly funky record, and this one is much the same. She seems to have a feel for rhythm and for rock and roll, and I just find it charming. It fades some, but her cover of Steve Miller's "Wild Mountain Honey" is pretty fine.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 3 September 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago)

Edd I'm totally impressed by / jealous of your meeting Bettye Lavette, and I remember thinking how bizarre it was that those Atlantic sessions didn't come out back then (with the exception of a couple of singles, their first release was on some French label five years or so ago, right?). But I wonder whether they weren't a bit last-year's-model in 1972, still rocking a gospelly-country-soul feel when the soul world was taking a grittier, funky turn. Then again, my chronology of that stuff's sketchy at best.

I do think that her string of sides for Silver Fox a few years before those Atlantic sessions are amongst the very best country soul of all. And I'm struggling to think of any recording of a Neil Young song I like as much as her "Heart of Gold". Making Neil Young bearable, now there's a trick.

Anyway, will you post a link when it's published?

Tim, Monday, 3 September 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

So the new Brooks & Dunn (and, to a lesser extent, the new Rissi Palmer, who seems to have a certain smokey sort of Bobby Gentry or at least Shelby Lynne soul-country thing going on now and then) were slowly but surely growing on me this week when I switched gears to the new Gary Allan and the new Kenny Chesney. The Chesney definitely has some parts I like (time-goes-by-fast-especially-if-you're-a-parent heartwrench insta-hit "Don't Blink" choked me up the first time I heard it but less so thereafter, so I'm not sure where it will end up; "Demons," about how Kenny is chased by some, doesn't sound demonic enough probably but has him hitting what might be the highest falsetto notes of his career toward the end, effectively I think so far; "Wild Ride" with Joe Walsh isn't as wild as it thinks but is still kinda fun seeing how it has Joe Walsh and all; "Dancin' For Groceries," about a single mom dancing for the sleazy businessmen in a strip bar to pay her credit card bills, is definitely singular at least), but the album didn't last real long in its initial shift in the changer -- It'll be back, though. Weirdest thing I noticed, though, given something I said on this thread a few posts up: not only is its supposed theme the same, but the CD cover looks almost as exactly the same as Be As You Are: Songs From An Old Blue Chair -- maybe he thought he didn't get it right the first time?

Gary Allan album was sounding merely good at first, but as often happens with Gary Allan albums, is quickly inching toward greatness. Favorites so far are "She's So California" and the very powerchorded (especially at the beginning) blatant bid for the Bon Jovi/country crossover audience "Like It's A Bad Thing" (when people say you're crazy or whatever), which to my ears has more power than the more blatantly hard-rocking "Living Hard," about, uh, rolling like the Stones and looking like Dylan, whatever that means, and living hard on the road. "Half Of My Mistakes" is growing on me too, and I like the single "Watching Airplanes," about looking at the sky and trying to figure which plane contains the girl you just broke up with. There may be better tracks; those are just the ones that keep coming up via random play, or jumping out at me.

New Michael Hurley Accidental Swamp didn't cut it; I always want to like his albums since he used to be so awesome and since his album covers (full of dirty-minded cartoons of hippie animals) are always so entertaining, but it's hard to keep me awake when you don't bother to wake yourself up before recording. Which is no doubt Michael's point, and if it keeps him happy, that's wonderful, but it's been decades since an album's clicked with me.

Also listened to a five-song sampler from the new BJ Thomas album. Best song is a hard rockabilly cover of Travis Tritt's cover of Elvis's (apparently, though I can't remember ever actually hearing Elvis's version) "Trouble" (you know: "There goes T-R-O-U-B-L-E"), but the rest is a lot schlockier, theoretically interesting when BJ goes into Luther Vandross mode, less so when he goes into Tom Jones mode, but not enough to hold my attention either way.

Also been listening to a new chitlin-circuit soul album Rump Shakers by this Florida fellow:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/bobbybowens3

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 September 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago)

Last Sunday, Toby Keith was on Breakfast With A&E (for the many those who haven't seen it in years, A&E is not very genteel anymore, relying heavily on Dog The Bounty Hunter's reality show, Criss Angel Mind Freak, Gene Simmons' reality show, lightly censored Sopranos re-runs, CSI:Miami re-runs, Intervention [addicts' reality show] etc). Nevertheless, he diplomatically stepped back just a bit from the kind of endorsement he got from Ted Nugent, 'llowing once more as how he nevr got the war in Iraq, but is no general (footage of solo unplugged setdown "Who's Your Daddy" for troops: sounded a bit like Jimmie Rodgers-era riverboat vaudville, as does Toby's early "Close, But No Guitar"). "Whiskey For My Men", with his band in the A&E studio, sounded really good with no Willie to highlight some of the words. Almost subliminal backup woman singer and horns on chorus, Toby's slight drone with the confident but non-rowdy guitars let the words and notes rise a little and sink back into the chords, ridin' easy but alert. Kinda stoic too, take or leave it. No (excess) macho posturing bothered with. But "Love Me If You Can" or whatevr it's called, about all the folks pickin on him (just because he used to wave giant posters of Dixie Chicks as Saddam's Angels, while singing "Angry American", yeah fight the real enemy Tobe, thanks for reminding us) Sounded like a crybaby there. Which wouldn't be so bad if he weren't copping a plea, or (maybe)if hadn't followed that particular rendition of "Whiskey For My Men."

dow, Saturday, 8 September 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago)

Those Uncle Earl girls can shred a five-part yodel.

roxymuzak, Saturday, 8 September 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago)

Actually new Hurley is called Ancestral Swamp (better title than Accidental, but no dinosaurs in sight, as far I could tell. But little green men, maybe -- though I know that from the CD cover and song titles, not from the actual songs.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 September 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

who else likes LeAnn Rimes 'Nothing Better To Do' then? i didn't know where else to post this question

blueski, Saturday, 8 September 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

Brooks & Dunn's song about Jerry Jeff Walker is reminding me, somehow, of "Saturday Gigs" by Mott the Hoople, of all things (or at least the "hey Kix, that was '76" part does.) "Cowboy Town" (title track) also sounding great, and those guitar riffs in "Drop In the Bucket" totally cook. (Between this song and Gary Allan's "Like It's A Bad Thing," it's pretty clear that country has yet to start retreating on the let's-see-how-rock-we-can-get-away-with-being front.) So yeah: growing on me for sure.

xhuxk, Sunday, 9 September 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago)

Was about to say that Elvis's "Trouble" was a different "Trouble" from the Tritt, but then I checked allmusic.com and see that Elvis did two different "Trouble"s, and indeed one of them has the same writer (Jerry Chestnut) as the Tritt. I haven't heard it (the Elvis that is).

My favorite "Trouble" is Shampoo's. Wish Tritt would cover that one. (Better vid but worse sound here.)

In Jessica Simpson's video for "These Boats Are Made For Walkin'," she's playing the trouble girl from Tritt's "Trouble."

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 9 September 2007 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

Boats = Boots

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 9 September 2007 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

xpost roxymuzak: yeah, female vocals do ripple the bluegrass and mountain music, better than the male, seems like(although--while ago I was listening to what I thought was Jimmie Rodgers homage times bluegrass, hey great concept, well-done--but it was--Bill Monroe, 1936!)blueski: yeah, seems like Leanne Rimes gets so taken for granted, waved by the guard shack, but I've liked her more in the past couple years than ever; seems like she's really growing into her voice, though obv. still quite young. Will she ever say later for this smug old country no-love, and go mainstream? Or just start having kids and phase out the career--she's been at it since, what, ten or something.(Why taken for granted, I guess.)

dow, Sunday, 9 September 2007 03:08 (seventeen years ago)

who else likes LeAnn Rimes 'Nothing Better To Do' then? i didn't know where else to post this question

Ha, I happened to catch that video when I remembered that I had a TV and was going from channel to channel looking for a reason to watch it. I thought it was a pretty good song. I definitely liked her singing. That's someone I should probably look into. (I was searching this thread earlier for comment on her, but didn't see too much.)

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 9 September 2007 03:15 (seventeen years ago)

I should probably mention that there are lots of songs on the Brooks & Dunn album that aren't clicking with me -- nothing really horrible, I don't think, but lots of stuff that's basically so-what/who-cares: "Proud of the House We Built" (the single), "Johnny Cash Junkie (Buck Owens Freak)" (by-the-book kiss-ass ho-hum pandering in which, I they talk about staying true to their country roots and bleeding red white and blue and whatnot), and the last two songs, "American Dreamer" and "God Must Be Busy", which seem to be the obligatory "important statement" songs. And there are a few that have sufficient energy but not much in the way of a song attached -- Might even include "Drop In the Bucket" (which half the time just hits me as really cornball despite its tough guitars) in that caregory, also maybe "Drunk On Love" (starts out as early Randy Newman "Mama Told Me Not To Come"-style blues-pop but never quite kicks in) and "Tequila" (which despite its gratuitous hints of Tex-Mex organ always just makes me wish I was listening to the real "Tequila.") "Chance Of A Lifetime"'s mid '60s Dylan via Georgia Satellites rock is better than those, but its lyric, which is about how she runs away to Bahamas with his credit card, always makes me wish I was instead hearing "Sunspot Baby" by Bob Seger, which was about exactly the same thing except 1000 percent more detailed and and more swinging about it. And "Put a Girl In It" has okay hooks, but also has a cutesy cornball quotient I have trouble getting past. I dunno; maybe some of those will kick in with time, especially if they become hits. But for now "Cowboy Town," "The Ballad Of Jerry Jeff Walker," and probably "Cowgirls Don't Cry" seem like the best tracks on the album. Which, as Brooks & Dunn albums go, is a pretty good but not great one.

"Wrecking Ball" is another big rocker on the Gary Allan album, and "Living Hard," the more I hear it, rocks really hard (seems to take its riff from some '70s boogie classic I'm having trouble placing; it'll come to me, though.) Allan really seems to be aching for the rock audience now. And oh yeah, in "She's So California," he turns a couple lines into a hilariously blatant Tom Petty homage.

First song on that Bobby Bowen Southern soul album, "She Got a Lump For a Rump (Rump Shaker)," steals its horn riff from "Mr. Big Stuff" and words from "Brick House." Later on he does a rewrite of Kool and the Gang's "Get Down On It" and doesn't even bother to change that title (though I think it's not meant to be a cover, per se'), and another good one is "Your Love is a Tower of Power," though never having listened to them much I have no idea if it actually sounds like Tower of Power. And there are spoken parts on the album (by him and some lady) that make me think of Richard "Dimples" Fields and Barbara Mason, though maybe not intentionally. Some good '70s bubblegum funk too -- real fun record.

xhuxk, Sunday, 9 September 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

In that same vein--well, maybe not quite bubblegum funk, but covering H.Wolf and J.Brown next to each other and his own stuff, while not bothering to imitate them: doing the lighten up but not the liten up--is a chitlin soul ("blues" it would be called around here) set by Eddie Cotton I heard on Beale Street Caravan recently, wonder how his albums are. I'll have to check that new Blue Cheer, and can well believe it's country-relevant, as their own rollin' in the loft aspect emerged full-blown, so to speak, before the Southern Rock bandwagon took off (perhaps Elvin Bishop and Black Oak Arkansas were listening to BC).

dow, Sunday, 9 September 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

Been a long week, and getting ready to leave Colorado for Tennessee. There's a big hardware/ranch store near here you can spend hours in, and we noticed that George Strait has his very own line of cowboy boots. Big picture of him when you walk in. Got the new Chesney yesterday, listening to that one this afternoon.
As for LaVette, Tim, the Muscle Shoals Sound recordings she did with Brad Shapiro in '72 were first released in 2000 in France as Souvenirs. I got hold of them via burns from friends and then shelled out Rhino Handmade price for the Child of the Seventies set, which collects some other '72 tracks along with a few of her early leased-to-Atlantic singles. I think the problem with the famously unreleased record is that the material, much of it by Shapiro, is second-rate, like the dire "Soul Tambourine," one of those inane feel-good brotherhood songs from the era. I mean everyone was doing that sort of stuff back then, Candi Staton comes to mind. Not sure if it suited LaVette, especially. But on the other hand, the opener, "It Ain't Easy," is fine indeed. So why didn't Atlantic release the record? I think they just didn't hear a single, or any real commercial potential, and I think LaVette's voice needed something the producer couldn't give her. Or maybe her great subject is simply herself and her travails, which is why I think her new one is her best, Willie Nelson cover and muted pedal steel and Drive-By Truckers and all.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 9 September 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

Rockist and Don, from what I've heard of recent LeAnn Rimes - which is hardly complete - her dance and pop stuff crushes the country but her last album pop album only got a European release. She can't chuck the country because she can't get played as anything else here.

Anyway, here are Headphone (the YouTube person using it to back up a homoerotic video, so not safe for work) and the even better And It Feels Like with a quite good video though the rip here is out of sync. I though that Nothin' Better To Do was so-what when I first heard it, but I was wrong. It's tough, it's hot, she's doin' the jailhouse stomp. She does tend to get entangled in the richness of her lower register, however. (I said this last year in regard to her disco, too, which is still better.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 9 September 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, Blueski, didn't mean to leave you out of that response - forgot that you were the one who first asked the question.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 9 September 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks! Blueski was originally referencing one of her country singles, though, and I like those too, but I'll check out the others for sure. Speaking as xhuxx was of Brooks & Dunn's not great but pretty good song about Jerry Jeff, here's where I briefly raise a glass and panama to Jeffy mysef, he's still not great but pretty good after all these years, affectingly enough:
http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid:52232

dow, Sunday, 9 September 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

And speaking as xhuxx was of Bob Seger, here's a (reasonably) expanded Charloaf bio-critique of Seger, from the mid-60s to mid-00s, re- titled "Turn The Page And Other Delights (Pts.1&2)" (just posted today, so you'll see it up top)
http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com

dow, Sunday, 9 September 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago)

Fwiw, now that I've heard the other songs, I still like "Nothin Better to Do" better than "Headphone" and "And It Feels Like." She sounds fine in the other two, but "And It Feels Like" really drags for me. I find it hard to pay any attention to it after about a minute (but I'm probably more ripe for getting into more country than getting into more pop, at the moment--not to say I don't get that they can overlap). So have any of you gotten copies of her new album due out next month? any impressions? (I think it's kind of funny that blueski, who I assume does not regularly post to this thread and probably doesn't listen to much country, posted about this song that I happened to come across pretty randomly, and liked.)

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 9 September 2007 23:47 (seventeen years ago)

Excellent Seger thoughts, Don. I only own one Seger alb, Ramblin' Gamblin' Man, which functions half as a hits alb (has also got "2 + 2 = ?") and half as a Michigan attempt at sprawling psychedelia. I haven't listened to it in 15 years, so might be time to dust it off and take it for a spin.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 9 September 2007 23:49 (seventeen years ago)

Haven't heard the new Rimes (or its single), or last year's previous import pop one. Liked 2005's This Woman, though, and loved lots of 2002's Twisted Angel -- especially "Life Goes On," which made my top ten singles list. I've never taken much time to explore her early more country albums (i.e., before her music started heading toward the dancefloor), but 2003's Greatest Hits has been useful as a good place to start cathing up.

New Gary Allan turns out to have its share of mush ("We Touched the Sun," "Learning How To Bend," two or three or four other tracks), some of which will probably eventually prove itself as quality mush; I frequently do tend to underrate ballads early on. Still, looks like it's shaping up as another more-good-than-great album, but with a few great songs.

xhuxk, Monday, 10 September 2007 00:08 (seventeen years ago)

xpost

A funny live performance video with a faster, louder remixed "Headphones" on the soundtrack though the visuals are obviously another song!

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 September 2007 00:09 (seventeen years ago)

Vintage LeAnn autobiographical flashdance pop ("Wound Up"). She goes a little crazy sometime. (I like the poignant curtailment suggested by "little" and the singular "sometime.")

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 September 2007 00:27 (seventeen years ago)

Life Goes On

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 September 2007 00:31 (seventeen years ago)

(In which she uses the phrase "daddy mack")

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 September 2007 00:33 (seventeen years ago)

And my favorite LeAnn ("No Way Out") (warning though: it's even slower than "And It Feels Like," and this isn't the greatest sound rip).

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 September 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago)

But that's one thing that makes her voice more impressive, the way she handles the slow ones, at least the slow country ones (must catch up with your links!)(thanks and oh yeah, Seger wasn't that thrilled with Ramblin Gamblin Man, and his bandmates getting uppity when they suddenly had a hit past local radio)

dow, Monday, 10 September 2007 00:55 (seventeen years ago)

A great few seconds at the start here, an ace impression of the Elvis (Lieber-Stoller) "Trouble." The rest is, um... (Well, far worse than um.)

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 September 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago)

Rockist and Don, from what I've heard of recent LeAnn Rimes - which is hardly complete - her dance and pop stuff crushes the country but her last album pop album only got a European release. She can't chuck the country because she can't get played as anything else here.

-- Frank Kogan, Sunday, 9 September 2007 18:45 (Yesterday) Link

Her last album was available in the US (and still is) at all the big retailers from the day it was released "in Europe." And though it usually has a sticker that calls it an 'import' it's not priced any higher. Seems the record company is saying, we're not promoting this in America, but you can still buy it.

mulla atari, Monday, 10 September 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago)

so I do like Chesney and Strait on "Shiftwork" which is pretty interesting Carribean/New Orleans groove out of "Sick and Tired" filtered thru Jimmy Margaritaville. "A big old pile of shit," I mean "shift" work. Also think I like his song about single moms who dance for a living, the guy has a nice feel for banality and for girls who play softball and for working for a living. Is he a poet or a pirate, I dunno. Something banal if felt in his voice, though, so what carries the record for me is the guitar, which fits his mini-dramas, which are like those films of natural events that speed up processes so you see birth, life and death in 60 seconds or three minutes.

whisperineddhurt, Monday, 10 September 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago)

I'll take 60 seconds, thanks, esp. when Chesney's present.

dow, Monday, 10 September 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, "Shiftwork" ("7 to 3/3 to 7/ll to 7" and a convenience store clerk gal who gets mad at a jerky customer 'cause he doesn't pay for his gas) and "Dancin' For the Groceries ("in sequins and laces/she dancin' for the braces") really kicked in with me this morning, though the former must have one of the lightest Caribbean lilts this side of the Kingston Holiday Inn lobby. (Actually, I have no idea how the light the lilt of the lobby's band is-- so, unfair joke, but you catch my drift.) And yeah, great minds think alike -- before Edd posted his post, I was thinking how the latter song reminded me of Kenny's "Big Star" from a few years ago, about the girl who was a karaoke star at her neighborhood strip mall (the other kind of strip from "Dancin' For Groceries") or wherever it was in her off-time. He may well be the king of working women's rock. But I still don't believe him when he tells me he "got a little crazy last night." Like, maybe he had a beer.

Meanwhile, time to update your book, Greil:

TV ADVISORY: JOE PERRY OF AEROSMITH
PERFORMS WITH TOBY KEITH
FOR ABC-TV SPECIAL
“ELVIS: VIVA LAS VEGAS ”

Joe Perry, lead guitarist of AEROSMITH, joined Toby Keith's concert August 24 in Buffalo , NY to perform a rendition of Elvis Presley's "Mystery Train." The performance will be part of the upcoming ABC News special "Elvis: Viva Las Vegas," airing Tuesday, September 18 (9:00-11:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. For the 30th anniversary of Elvis' death, ABC is examining how the King re-invented Sin City and how it re-invented him.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 02:28 (seventeen years ago)

EMP Conference to thread!

dow, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 04:26 (seventeen years ago)

I just hope the ABC special talks about how El bombed in Vegas when he wuz startin out. We watched one of those cinema-verite docs recently, El in about '72 or '73 when the rot really set in. God he was stoned.

Been listening to a lot of Bobby Braddock songs lately, wrote a little blurb about this appearance he's making in Nashville this Saturday. (If you're there, it's at the Ford Theater at the Country Music Hall of Fame downtown.) Apparently, there are several Braddock/Blake Shelton tunes in the can that Worley and company took off Pure B.S.. The strategy has not seemed to work, since this record's singles have done worse than the singles from the prev. 3. Anyway, I'm pretty amazed at Braddock's '76 George Jones hit, "Her Name Is," which is er uhhm meta-composition, the guy in the song is fucking around and is scared the husband of the woman he's screwing will kill him, so every time he gets to the part where he has to describe her this clavinet (played by Pig Robbins?) kicks in. "Her name is...burble...her measurements are...skeeronk."

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago)

Claimed I had tags that couldn't be parsed click "Ignore" I did, still wouldn't post, so anybody who wants to see comments on watching a lot of LeAnn, drop me a line.

dow, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago)

Try again: spent the morning with Frank's Rimes links and where they led me. "Wound Up" has the sort of beat against which she can relax a little. the formalism of her flights starts to re-inforce the industial-rhetorical yachtrock,as country and crossover,and Euro-variants of some other tracks) Choice of material still dicey, although these are all singles and bonus tracks; hopefullu the albums are better-rounded. A oh el has 20 videos, incl interviews and stand-alone versions of the A oh el concert, which you can also view all at once. It shows several of her strengths and most of her limitations..Another one that suits her, cause got all these little changes and blow-ups in it, at least compared to the autopilot stuff, is her current "Nothin Better To Do"--than to get in trouble, that is, and video's fine Women In Prison takeoff on Jailhouse Rock movie performnance of the title song. This is prob my country Top Ten this year, and maybe other Top Tens. Also the original video of The Sailor Moon Live Action visuals of "Wound Up" led me to other SMLA, most relevant here is hooked to "I Belong To You," by Eros Ramazzotto & Anastacia, where he yowls and scrounges, while she carefully enunciates, her outward decorum not obscuring connection to his cowboy stoner:he's extention of her secret, if carefully calibrated, degree of freedom.Meanwhile back on AOL, the one that got me originally is her "Probably Wouldn't Be This Way," or is it "...Would Be This Way"? Can never remember, it's more about the sound and the verses, the story, which doesn't seem to depend on would or wouldn't, which might even be the point.

dow, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago)

Nashville, Tenn. (Sept. 11, 2007)--Country music superstar, Miranda Lambert, will honor music legend Elvis Presley by performing "Jailhouse Rock" on the upcoming ABC news special, "Elvis, Viva Las Vegas," which will be broadcast on Tuesday, Sept. 18 at 9:00 EST.

Thirty years after Elvis Presley's death, an ABC two-hour TV event in High Definition will examine how the King of Rock-and-Roll affected Las Vegas. Hosted by ABC News' "20/20" anchor Elizabeth Vargas, the special, produced in cooperation with Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc., will incorporate rarely seen footage of Elvis performing in Las Vegas, revealing interviews with those closest to him, and special performances from some of today's top recording stars singing Elvis' Vegas classics.

Lambert is part of a star-studded lineup which includes unique duets from Toby Keith and Aerosmith's Joe Perry performing "Mystery Train" and Chris Isaak with the hot new artist Brandi Carlile performing "Love Me Tender" (filmed on the former site of the Aladdin Hotel, where Elvis and Priscilla were married). Some musical artists talk about the influence Elvis had on them and others perform covers of their favorite Elvis songs. Artists include: 50 Cent, Beyonce, Daughtry, Celine Dion, Faith Hill, Paul McCartney, Willie Nelson, "The Rock," Patti Scialfa and Oscar winners Three-6-Mafia.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

The artist list is complete chaos. I love it.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, and I really wanna hear Three-6-Mafia (music *and* talking about Elvis's influence on them).

dow, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

666 Mafia will talk about how Memphis has changed since the good ole '50s.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 00:41 (seventeen years ago)

Some more thoughts about Kenny Chesney's album:

1. My Kingston Holiday Inn line was stupid. For one thing, "Shifwork"'s groove has more to do with calypso than reggae, so I picked the wrong island. Secondly, the more I listen to the song, the groove is actually not bad at all -- just subtle. Edd might even be right that there's some New Orleans in there. And the whole "shifwork" = "shitwork" conceipt is funny. Just entered the country singles chart, too, which makes me happy. And I am not even much of a George Strait fan. But here, he's good.
2. In "Never Wanted Nothing More," I keep thinking the girl Kenny's with is also called Kenney! Which would be weird. But I think she's Katy instead.
3. "Got a Little Crazy" (about waking up with a hangover after imbibing some mysterious rum concoction, and after a one-night stand who is still sleeping next to him) is better than I implied, too.
4. I like the fact that the girl he falls for in "Just Not Today" is a third baseman. "A thing for a girl in a uniform" - wacky Gang of Four reference!
5. "Wild Ride," the song with Joe Walsh on it, turns out to be written by Dwight Yoakam. Did he ever do it? Either way, it's okay workaday hard-rockishness.
6. "Scare Me" has an interesting title and a potentially interesting spare sound, but so far I kind of hate it, since it sounds like "You Decorated My Life" by Kenny Rogers with the tune taken out.

Some more thoughts on Bobby Bowens's new album:

1. The girl-moans in "Scratch My Itch" are straight out of "I'll Take You There" by the Staple Singers, and oddly, there's also a title called "Let's Do It Again"--i.e., same title as another Staples hit.
2. "Reaching For the Top" is probably far-and-away, over the top, the most blatant old old old school style hip-hop track I've heard all year. (Eat your heart out, Cowboy Troy.) Very 1980! I love it.
3. "Let's Do It Again" is more 1990: New Jack Swing!

xhuxk, Thursday, 13 September 2007 11:59 (seventeen years ago)

I should add though that there are at least two 2007 songs about hangovers that I like better than "Got a Little Crazy" -- both of them by late '80s-style. Hanoi Rocks-inspired glam-sleaze-rock bands (which, as country incorporates more hair-metal, might well qualify for the country thread themselves by now.)

"My Hangover" by the Cosmosonics, from Pittsburgh:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=3535319

"Hangover City" by the Greatest Hits, from the state of Washington:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/greatesthits

Best hangover song of 2006 was "Hair of The Dog" by Shooter Jennings, who has been known to incorporate '80s sleaze-metal into his sound as well. It's not a Nazareth cover, though his new single is reportedly an '80s Dire Straits cover ("Walk of Life," a song I've always hated, though maybe Shooter will make me like it.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 13 September 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago)

Also, the Chesney feat. Strait title is "Shiftwork" obviously (I spelled it wrong twice in the same post! Not sure why.)

Subject for future research (like, maybe I need to read the lyrics): Does "Cowgirls Don't Cry" off the new Brooks & Dunn album say something interesting or new about the parental relationship between fathers and their daughters? (I'm not saying it does, necessarily, but I think it might. Not sure what.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 13 September 2007 12:41 (seventeen years ago)

Anthony said something predicting that Chesney beats both Fiddy and Kanye out of the box, but that's not happening. Preliminary Soundscan projections have Kanye not only clobbering those two, but outselling Linkin Park's first week so having the biggest first week of the year.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

(Off topic, but my favorite of the handful of recent Kanye I've heard is "Barry Bonds.")

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 13 September 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.farmaid.org has it so you can click on any set of the recent concert, or play the whole thing. Eventually, it'll be members only, but rat now, check it out.

dow, Friday, 14 September 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, average projections from sales reps at the four majors (not to be confused with the building SoudScans) estimate Kanye finishing at around 781,000 for the opening week, 50 at around 603,000, and Chesney at around 456,000. (Where did Anthony predict Chesney would win, though? I missed that.)

Anyway. Here's what's said about Alan Jackson's 16 Greatest Hits at countryuniverse.net:

Track Listing: Chattahoochee/Gone Country/It Must Be Love/Midnight in Montgomery/Chasin’ That Neon Rainbow/Don’t Rock the Jukebox/Mercury Blues/Here in the Real World/Pop a Top/That’d Be Alright/I Don’t Even Know Your Name/Gone Crazy/I’ll Go On Loving You/Little Man/Who’s Cheatin’ Who/Summertime Blues

It’s a tough call to make, given that every track here ranges from very good to legendary, but Alan Jackson already has two excellent Greatest Hits collections on the market, with a stunning 20-track first volume that covers his early career and a second volume with another 18 hits. Sure, this is the first compilation that covers both eras, but it doesn’t do it particularly well. Five of these sixteen songs are covers, which is far too many for a collection by one of the genre’s best singer-songwriters. And they didn’t have the courage to really include all of the biggest hits: “Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning)”, “Drive (For Daddy Gene)”, “Livin’ on Love”, “It’s Five O’Clock Somewhere” and “Remember When” would be needed for this live up to its title.

Well, I agree that the CD would be better if “Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning)”, “Drive (For Daddy Gene)”, and “It’s Five O’Clock Somewhere” were on it; I'd toss in "The Talkin' Song Repair Blues," too. But no way does "every track here range from very good to legendary," sorry. In fact, the only track I really really love is "Little Man," about big-money capitalism unseating the grass-roots mom-and-pop kind in a small town (though even in that one, the specifics about what items the store shelves are stocking don't always make a whole lot of sense). "Gone Country" (basically about folk singers and serious composers etc. selling out to Nashville) is better than I used to think (good characters, but that repeated "here she comes" hook still gets on my nerves); "Chatahoochie" is probably not as good as I used to think; "Don't Rock the Jukebox" was never all that great to begin with, but sure, they're all true hits. Lots of the other stuff is shrug-worthy though ("That'd Be Alright": zzzzzz), and yeah, too many covers -- "Pop A Top" is not bad, but "Mercury Blues" is pretty limp, and I seriously doubt anybody has ever hit with a lamer and more sexless version of "Summertime Blues." Otherwise, "Who's Cheatin' Who" and "I Don't Even Know Your Name" are mildly energetic at least (still weird hearing Alan say "I've never been too good at all those sexual games"). What's intersting, though, is that some of the better stuff I'd never thought much about before ("Midnight in Montgomery," "Gone Crazy," "I'll Go On Loving You") is sort of dark and understated in a way that prefigures Like Red On A Rose, still the only great Alan Jackson album I've ever heard. Not sure how it all adds up to Alan having any kind of personality, though; mostly, it convinces me he was born without one, which is what I've always thought. Still, I'm glad to own the best-of. But I could've made a much better one myself, and it would have had fewer than 16 songs on it.

xhuxk, Saturday, 15 September 2007 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

average projections

well, averaged projections, to be more precise

"Chatahoochie" is probably not as good as I used to think

But that's mainly because I used to think it was truly great -- like, Creedence Clearwater Revival great, if I remember what I first wrote about it in Radio On, where I probably gave it a half-point or so more than it deserved. But it's still probably my second-favorite song of the best-of's 16. Cool surf riff -- If, I dunno, the Black Lips or somebody like that covered it, it still has the potential to turn into a great record someday.

"better stuff I'd never thought much about before ("Midnight in Montgomery," "Gone Crazy," "I'll Go On Loving You")

The latter two of which are not all that memorable, regardless. But they sound decent when they're on.

xhuxk, Saturday, 15 September 2007 11:42 (seventeen years ago)

so, I managed to catch some of the Fox Nashville show last night, with Chuck Wicks. They showed like ten seconds of his Showcase at 12th & Porter (closed down for a while this summer because they didn't pay their liquor tax or something, it used to be a nice club and still one of the nicer-sounding rooms in town), so I couldn't get much of a sense of whether he was good or not, I mean it sounded pretty generic to me. But there was Joe Galante in the audience and very many pretty girls. The best moment before we turned it off was a party where someone asked everyone what they did. In turn: "singer songwriter..I'm a singer-songwriter...singer-songwriter...I'm a singer-songwriter too." So they guy got his deal. Nice shots of Nashville. Then we watched the Stax Revue live in Norway, which was interesting. Al Jackson was definitely the greatest rock drummer, or soul drummer, or both--complete control, total style. Arthur Conley was embarrassing doing his hit and those of others, Sam and Dave seemed to feed off their apparent dislike for each other, and so on. Invaluable document, better than the actual documentary on Stax, which did cover some of the more troubling aspects of the company's history but had weird gaps--like, they show William Bell and Marvell Thomas doing "You Don't Miss Your Water" (which is my out for including this on the country thread, since that became a country standard of sorts when the Byrds did it), but never explain that this was the first real Stax standard or that it went on to have another life, etc. And they never say that Al Jackson got murdered, that I saw. The lamest bit was the "explanation" of how Stax was different from Motown--the answer is, of course, that Motown was organized and Stax just happened...and that Stax was in a town that could have cared even less about them than Detroit did Motown. Anyway, you get Rufus Thomas saying "Motown was slick but Stax had the funk," which is just stupid and serves history not at all. Motown was pretty damned funky.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 15 September 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago)

It's pretty possible the Chesney will eventually outsell Kanye & 50, not that anyone will care by then. That album from 2005 (The Road & the Radio) is is still selling well, and still producing hit singles this year. I kinda doubt there will be any tracks from "Curtis" on the R&B/Hip-Hop charts in summer 2009.

mulla atari, Saturday, 15 September 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

Edd, I know what you mean, and it's not like Stax wasn't slick either. But, come on, it's Rufus Thomas! Give dude a break for speaking his mind in a general sort of way.

Plus I think he might just be right. It's not stupid to say that; Stax was a lot more funky (for better or worse, whatever that means) than Motown and you know it. Proof: Geir Hongro's fear and terror at the mention of Stax. Motown's funk was just a part of the equation, whereas Stax was BUILT on the stuff.

I am very far away from even wanting to listen to country radio right now, and no one sends me CDs anymore since I stopped freelancing. So right now my top country record of the year is probably Jenni Rivera, or Johnnie Taylor, or maybe UGK, or perhaps Chingo Bling. Hell, maybe M.I.A.

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 15 September 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago)

A couple of other good Alan Jackson tracks with dark themes: "Monday Morning Church, " about disruptions of faith (in God, in faith)after your wife dies, and his cover of ZZ Top's "Sure Got Cold After The Rain Fell," on that trib I reviewed ("Sharp Blessed Men," Voice). Mebbe all his good tracks have dark themes? Not that he doesn't have a propensity for "humblin' you to death," as he even noted and apologized for (so even *that* frakking umble!), as I noted in review.

dow, Saturday, 15 September 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago)

But seems like, judging from an interview I read a long time ago, some of that comes from a really poverty-stricken raising, a sense, maybe, of what Rodney Crowell's called his own "sharecropper's mentality," a hat-in-hand approach, which messed up his father's career a lot more, coming as they did, from a tradition of hard-scrabble economic migration, Appalachia to Arkansas to Port Houston, yuck. Obviously a lot of persistence and chance-taking at whatever level, but some beatdown perspective to overcome as well, and the shock of rising above (above the precedent and usually the follow-up of any other family members) that prob affected orientation of Elvis, Cash, a bunch of others. Nowadays a country star's background might be more suburban and/or collegiate, relatively more often?

dow, Saturday, 15 September 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

I think of Alan Jackson's great "That'd Be Alright" as a pretty dark song, ultimately.

Willman, Saturday, 15 September 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, so. Time to talk about Phil Vassar, who I'm thinking might be least country star in country music right now. Cover of his best album, the self-titled one that came out in 2000 (with huge hit "Just Another Day in Paradise," high school reunion song "Carlene," and his best song "Six Pack Summer") has him and his piano in this perfectly lighted and shadowed...well, on the cover it looks like an opulent Manhattan studio apartment, and inside the CD booklet it's a house in the process of being built, and neither time does it look remotely rural. Also on the cover he's got on an unbottoned long sleeve shirt with a black T-shirt underneath, but what it almost looks like if you don't look really close is a bathrobe, which reminds me of Nillson, who like Vassar was as well-known as a songwriter of other people's hits as his own. Okay, then, a couple years ago, Vassar has a huge, ubiquitous country hit with a sleazy song about making out in a hot tub, or something like that. (I don't actually own a copy, and changed the channel whenever it came on CMT, but that was more or lest the gist of it, right?)

So now he's got a new album coming out whose title, Prayer Of a Common Man kinda makes me gag, but I like the record, but I swear most of it sounds closer to '80s "Addicted to Love" Robert Palmer or Elton John (or maybe Phil Collins -- or am I just confused because Phil had an another-day-in-paradise song, too?) The themes mostly seem to revolve around the plight of affluent exurban married couples, or at least that's the mood they give off. ("Around Here Somewhere," about love being lost somewhere in this big house they built years ago, like maybe behind the couch, sounds majestic and forlorn and uplifting in all the right ways.)

Most of the more upbeat cuts are underpinned by roiling, frequently boogie-woogiefied piano rhythms of some kind of other, inching toward Latin music or New Orleans at least twice -- in "Why Don't Ya" (with Los Lonely Boys), and "The World Is a Mess", the latter of which also has diversions that sound almost middle-eastern, plus enough complex time changes for prog-rock song (well, at least a pop-leaning one -- Genesis right before they became huge in the early '80s? But it also kind of reminds of pre-Born to Run Springsteen, for some reason -- maybe that's where the Latin influence comes from? Or maybe certain old Billy Joel songs; that might make more sense.) Vassar's generally pretty energetic, but never gets too raucous -- even "Baby Rocks," where he keeps going into "wooo! wooo!" train whistle hooks and saying his baby rocks him like the Rolling Stones and she's a backstage beauty with a booty tattoo ultimately sounds pretty polite despite all its honky-tonk badonkadonking.

Album starts with "This Is My Life," a fairly heavy-handed populist statement that's also a sort of rap (in the Toby Keith "Let's Talk About Me" if not quite first Big N Rich album sense, though the line about not caring if they're Reublicans or Democrats is right off the latter.) "I will not go quietly," Phil says, and if we all yell loud enough "it might just come tumblin' down/Spread all that wealth around." Cool. And "sticking it to the middle class/Well, you can kiss my price of gas" is sort of cute. But "want a chance to do my job/Pledge allegiance to my God"...well, whatever.

Lots of ballad schmaltz, too, and some of it ("Let Me Love You Tonight") has the feel of quiet-storm '80s r&b for making out to (for some reason I keep thinking Brian McKnight, but I honestly have no real idea what Brian McKnight sounded like, or even if his hits were mostly '80s, actually. Nashville seems to like him for some reason, though.) And like I said, another reference point seems to be Elton John after Elton had crossed the line from pop genius to competent hack. But country? Not so much.

If anybody else has ever given more than a second thought to the guy, I'd be curious what those thoughts are. (Also, what I wrote about "Carlene" in the Voice a few years ago can be found here):

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0018,eddy,14516,22.html

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 September 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago)

(I guess part of what I mean is that I think Phil might be the current country star who goes out of his way the least to present himself as country. So the populist "common man" tropes are kind of confusing, because he's never seemed to care that much about coming off common. Unless common men can afford hot tubs. I sure as hell know I can't.) (But maybe he just means "common" as "the guy you wouldn't even notice as the grocery store, since he wouldn't even have a cowboy hat on" or something.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 September 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

Looks below like "I'll Take That As a Yes (The Hot Tub Song)" wasn't as big a hit as I thought, though "Just Another Day in Paradise" was (and I don't remember ever hearing many of these others, which might mean they went in one ear out the other):


1999 Carlene Hot Country Singles & Tracks 5
2000 Carlene The Billboard Hot 100 45
2000 Just Another Day in Paradise Hot Country Singles & Tracks 1
2000 Just Another Day in Paradise The Billboard Hot 100 35
2001 Rose Bouquet Hot Country Singles & Tracks 16
2001 Rose Bouquet The Billboard Hot 100 78
2001 Six-Pack Summer Hot Country Singles & Tracks 9
2001 Six-Pack Summer The Billboard Hot 100 56
2001 That's When I Love You Hot Country Singles & Tracks 3
2002 American Child Hot Country Singles & Tracks 5
2002 American Child The Billboard Hot 100 48
2002 That's When I Love You The Billboard Hot 100 37
2003 This Is God Hot Country Singles & Tracks 17
2003 Ultimate Love Hot Country Singles & Tracks 41
2004 I'll Take That As A Yes (The Hot Tub Song) Hot Country Singles & Tracks 17
2004 In A Real Love Hot Country Singles & Tracks 1
2004 In A Real Love The Billboard Hot 100 38
2005 Good Ole Days Hot Country Singles & Tracks 22
2005 I'll Take That As A Yes (The Hot Tub Song) The Billboard Hot 100 89
2006 Last Day Of My Life Hot Country Singles & Tracks 2
2006 Last Day Of My Life Hot Digital Songs 72
2006 Last Day Of My Life Pop 100 75
2006 Last Day Of My Life The Billboard Hot 100 47
2006 The Woman In My Life Hot Country Singles & Tracks 20

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 September 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago)

Brian McKnight, meanwhile, had no hits before 1992. (I'm not sure why I'm under the impression he's respected in Nashville. Maybe he was mentioned in an interview I read once, or something):

http://wc07.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=BRIAN|MCKNIGHT&sql=11:hpfuxqt5ld6e~T51

First line of Vassar's new album, fwiw (after a sort of orchestrated little intro part): "Fat cats just gettin' fatter/Linin' their pockets, what does it matter." So hmm...maybe he's bucking for an '88 presidential campaign theme song for somebody?

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 September 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago)

(Er...Just cut and paste that link, I guess.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 September 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

"My Chevrolet": "Big bright moon shinin' on the road/And 'Night Moves' on the stereo." But yeah, here too, I'm hearing as much Born To Run bombast as Seger. (Vassar's gutbusting shoots for them both, and piano pomp sounds very Roy Bittan.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 September 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

"Big yellow moon on a country road," I mean (unless he changes it.) May 28, graduation day, they head out to see the U.S.A. "Those were the days." Song ends "roll me away," another Seger reference.

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 September 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago)

It's pretty possible the Chesney will eventually outsell Kanye & 50

Yeah, that makes sense, given that the country audience actually pays money for albums rather than stealing 'em off the Internet. Carrie Underwood's album finally outsold Breakaway. Doubt that Chesney, Kanye, or Fiddy will outsell Daughtry or HSM2 this year.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 17 September 2007 06:47 (seventeen years ago)

Most (okay, probably only) country song on the new Einsturzende Neubuaten album Alles Weideroffen is "Nagorny Karabach, which has a very recognizable Lee Hazelwood (R.I.P.) clippity-clop to it. Lots of repetitive electronic factory clang to the rest of the album, often building gradually into something tangibly if Teutonically identifiable as a groove, with repeatedly chanted harangues on top, which slow-building sometimes makes me more impatient than other times. Faves are opener "Die Wellen" (reminds me of Faust), humorlessly titled and minimally starting "Let's Do It Dada," nine-minute "Unvollstandigkeit," and "Ich Warte" (maybe their most danceable track since Adrian Sherwood produced "Yu Gung" for them 22 years ago.) Part that sounds like "bacon bacon bacon bacon" in "Von Wegen" is also neat. Didn't know they still had it in 'em.

xhuxk, Monday, 17 September 2007 11:13 (seventeen years ago)

They did Hazlewood's "I Am Sand" too. Speaking of nitty gritty substances, Steve Cropper's guitar (live in Respect Yourself: The Stax Records Story and The Stax/Volt Revue Live in Norway, 1967 DVDs) keeps squeezing out these little bursts of blues acid, in the mind-expanding and more basically corrosive senses. Can't get over alll these little variations and internal dynamic the whole combo grows in every song, without disturbing the money groove at all (the Norwegian beardos 'n' babes feel it too, cracking up or bursting into applause while bouncing right along with the beat) Jack Casady and John Cale had nothing on Duck Dunn, who keeps seeming like he's about to go into "White Light/White Heat"( and come to think of it, the Velvets had an instrumental,"Booker T.," which they used as the backing to Cale reading his short story, "The Gift," and I think the instrummental can be heard by itself on the Peel Slowly And See box). The live disc keeps freezing during Arthur Conley's set, and never resumes, but up through the Mar-Keys, yow. Brian McKnight sold a ton of records (to my Southern customers) in the 90s and a fair number in the early 00s, haven't kept up since the store went under, though he certainly helped to keep it afloat (did seem like he'd peaked or entered a dry spell, though). I think he did do some kind of Nashville move, on some duet sets and/or tribs.

dow, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 00:25 (seventeen years ago)

Lots of Youtube clips out there of Sugarland covering Beyonce in concert.
Here's one of them.

That could be a monster single.

mulla atari, Friday, 21 September 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

Very cool. Wasn't aware they were covering that -- and of their youtube performances I tracked through, that seems to be the best one. (What do people do, take camera phones and, um, tape recorders or something to shows now? Or do the phones have their own recorders? Sorry, I am so out of it when it comes to that kind of stuff. Lots of them you just see a bunch of heads and can't hear the band for th audience.) Anyway, even despite the unforgiveable sin of rhyming "minute" with "minute" it's a great song (one of the best ones I've ever heard Beyonce' sing), and though I haven't played them back to back, my inclination is to believe that Jennifer Nettles is a much warmer singer. (But then, so are most cyborgs. Though admittedly Beyonce's way less an ice queen doing "Irreplaceable" than she usually is.) My missus points out that Nettles has a weird accent though (i.e., how she says "claw-set"); we looked it up and, oh yeah, it's small town Georgia. Pretty great singer, still. Though I'm still pissed at Sugarland for kicking the bigger dykey-looking gal out of their band; until somebody proves otherwise with quantifiable concrete evidence, I will believe that was some sleazy marketing move.

Also, I still haven't heard their second album, though I should. (New albums from 2007 [most of them not-country] I still haven't got around to hearing but I'm still curious about, fwiw: Tim McGraw, Sir Lord Baltimore, Rose Tattoo, Modest Mouse, Andre Ward, The Casanovas, Manu Chao, Kelly Clarkson,
Times New Viking, Sarah Borges, Rihanna, Keke Palmer, Dropkick Murphys. Among others, no doubt.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

Otherwise, the Rissi Palmer album, which I dissed as bland here a couple weeks ago, has been really really really growing on me. She can sing really tough, it turns out ("I'm Not Of This World"), and "All This Woman Needs" has a prettiness that reminds a lot of pre-braindrain Dionne Warwick; also, the melody of "Leavin On Your Mind" is almost doo-wop-(ballad)-ish. And her vocals are beats in "Mr. Ooh La La," which might turn out to be an even better dance song than "Country Girl." Plus lots of decent cuts done in Shelby Lynne/Alison Moerer mode. So, pretty versatile. It will be interesting to see to what extent country radio warms to her. (The first single--which is a real stomper, did I mention that?--never caught fire, and has already dropped out of the country singles chart, which doesn't bode well for future success.)

Also spent a lot of time this week listening to the intricate pastoral acoustic Scandinavian Celtic chamber jig prog bluegrass mandolin nyckelharp violin 12-string and so on folk of Mike Marshall & Darol Anger's With Vasen (imagine umlaut over the "a" in Vasen.) From Sweden, I thought from the CD package, but their myspaces place them in California, which I will try not to hold against them even it decreases their mysteriousness factor. I think I tend to like them better in jig mode (i.e., "Yew Piney Mt") than Penguin Cafe Orchestra mode (i.e, "Misch Masch"), but both sound good. "Os Pintinhos" (which appears to have tango parts, or something) is defintely another favorite of mine:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=61582380

Also, Chris Kenner Land of 1000 Dances reissue on Collector's Choice is fun. I know, like, zilch about him -- third or fourth level New Orleans r&b dude, basically a one-hit-wonder with "I Like It Like That," right? Probably I should read the liner notes. Anyway, album is consistently good ("Land of 1000 Dances," which I pretty much love by anybody, is actually one of the less notable cuts), and now and then ("Packing Up," which somebody should put on a mix tape with the Holy Modal Rounders' "Moving Day"; "Come See About Me," Chris at his most Huey "Piano" Smith-like; "A Very True Story," which seems to concern a dad wanting his rock'n'roll daughter to lead a healthier life) pretty great. Background vocals, thankfully, frequently seem drunk.

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 September 2007 12:56 (seventeen years ago)

"All This Woman Needs" has a prettiness that reminds a lot of pre-braindrain Dionne Warwick; also, the melody of "Leavin On Your Mind" is almost doo-wop-(ballad)-ish

Actually, a very specific doo-wop ballad melody (assuming the Drifters count as doo-wop -- they really don't, do they?): Namely, "This Magic Moment."

And sometimes "All This Woman Needs" does sound bland. So the jury's still out on that one. The Warwick smilarity is vocal inflections, I think.

Also, speaking of juries still being out, the Marshall/Anger/Vason may well ultimately succumb to the bluegrass "this wank sounds good when it's on but it has so little personality than when it's not on I don't really care about it or remember why I thought I liked it so much" rule. So: caveats. Links to Tony Trischka types on their myspace pages also make me uneasy (about my own taste, among other factors.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 September 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago)

Chris Kenner: he had three hits. "Sick and Tired," which Fats Domino did for an even bigger hit; "Land of 1000 Dances" and "I Like It Like That." And, "Something You Got" was a big hit in New Orleans and went on to be redone by Alvin Robinson and all sorta other people. So, four songs. The stuff on the Collectors' Choice reissue (which I recently wrote something on that'll appear in print soon) was all cut for Instant in '61-'63 and then, when Cannibal and Wilson Pickett had hits with the refurbished "Land of 1000" (Cannibal and the Headhunters added the "na, na na na na" bit), Atlantic issued the singles. He had also cut for smaller labels like Ron ("Rocket to the Moon," about how the modern world was confusing with its rockets flyin' around, how can a man in New Orleans enjoy a good gospel-laced drink when all that shit keep happenin). Later on, he cut some great stuff in the mode of "Packing Up" (which Chuck rightfully points out as a great one on the reissue, and right, "Very True Story" is all about how a well-brought-up young woman in New Orleans could embrace the world of rockets flying around and rock and roll itself, and not worry about the coming apocalypse; she says she'll be "rocking in a rock and roll band" when the "saints come marching in," which seems to me a quintessential New Orleans line, and the great touch in that one is that Kenner ends it with, "And I'm her lovin' man," bang, the track ends cold; and that's my girl features a teenybopper Chris loves, she's a real handful, and then "Popeye Joe" steals her and Chris is disconsolate but then he goes out to the dance and finds her and takes her home for drinks and sloppy fucking).
Later on Kenner made records for weird labels in NOLA, for the fascinatingly named Sax Kari, including this stuff I've got on this totally obscure Belgian comp of alternate takes and so forth, one song being called "Fumigate Funky Broadway," which isn't quite as good as the title, but what do you want? And, my favorite song of his: "They Took My Money," where all Chris' friends have borrowed from him or ripped him off, or maybe it's about how Chris drank up all his royalties (a very true story). Anyway, this is where I think Kenner is first-rate totally, I mean if we're gonna worship someone like Iggy Pop then we got to do the same for Chris Kenner. The four songs I mention above are all rock classix of the first rank, whether or not anyone knows Chris Kenner wrote them, and please don't tell me that Iggy Pop's idiocy, or his voice or his "conception" or whatever, is any more "rock and roll" than Chris Kenner's. It's not. I mean Chris Kenner was no careerist--he was a drunk and apparently had some problems with young women that landed him in Angola in the late '60s, around the time young Jimmy was taking Mandrax and enjoying peanut butter without the bread in Ohio and Ann Arbor. Equally as rock and roll as Iggy and Kenner had the grace to die in 1976. Anyway, "They Took My Money" is about how he's fucked up, and he plans to fuck up those who took it, with "a butcher knife, a axe and a saw," and also, in one of the great lines in rock history, he says "I done posted every cop from here to Rome," thus commenting on the Catholicism of New Orleans and its relationship to the bigger world quite nicely, I feel. Kenner sang in a drunken, quavering voice and I don't hear the backing vox on Land of 1000 Dances (first-ever reissue on CD, I paid $50 for a Japanese LP of it in New Orleans once, and there's an Ace reissue of the LP plus more great shit like "Johnny Little" and "Shoo-Rah" and "Ain't I'm the Greatest" (where Kenner sings, "You heard me sing I was 'Sick and Tired,' I took you crosst the tracks, I took you to the 'Land of 1000 Dances,'" and of course, he's the greatest) you can't get any more. And the weird Belgian comp, too, and now this. Maybe not as first-first-rate as Huey Smith or Domino, but I dunno, better than Benny Spellman or maybe even Smiley Lewis. And certainly more truly rock and roll, fucked up, unintentionally profound, than any of them.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 22 September 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago)

of course, should be "That's My Girl," and I meant, I don't hear the backing vox on the reissue as so much drunken as endlessly amused,sardonic, perhaps even mildly bored; perhaps the singers were pissed they were on this session with this fat, greasy, drunk little guy with his fucked-up little songs that Allen Toussaint had to come along and spice up, no sweat. they could sing rings around Chris Kenner. I think, obviously, it's a brilliant, endlessly listenable record, right down to the gospel shit like "Time" which makes the very true storyoof Kenner and his squandered royalties and life seem all the more sad, when you think about it.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 22 September 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

New albums from 2007 I still haven't got around to hearing.... Among others, no doubt

E.g.: Chingo Bling. And Flynnville Train. And, uh, oh yeah, Kanye West. (The latter of which I predict I won't get around to for a few years, since right now it reminds me too much of my trade-magazine job.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 September 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

Man, I just got that Chris Kenner CD a couple of days ago (much thanx for hipping me to it on some other thread, Chuck), and it's definitely a stone blast. (Also, probably nobody else could have written about it as vividly as Edd does upthread. Anyway, certainly nobody on ILM, I don't think. Nice.)

JN$OT, Saturday, 22 September 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

Hmmm...maybe Kenner does the drunken background voices himself? Either way, very eloquent, Edd. I hereby consider myself Kenner-Edducated.

Re: Marshall/Anger/Vasen -- Vasen turn out to be the Swedish ones, a trio (5-string violino grande, nyckelharpa, 12-string guitar). But yeah, ulimately a bit to jamgrassish for my unjamgrassish tastes.

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 September 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago)

"Leavin' On Your Mind" on Rissi Palmer's album sounds very early '60s soft girl-pop (Connie Francis? Nah, probably not, but somebody in that genre); good use of space, and the melody somewhat echoes "Crying in the Chapel" (which counts as doo-wop too if you start w/ Orioles and Platters, right?)

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 September 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago)

Hmm...Now I'm wondering which songs they cut:

Phil Vassar’s scheduled October 30 release date for his Universal Records South debut Prayer Of A Common Man is now scheduled for a March 2008 release. Vassar and producer Mark Wright recently added a few songs, while omitting others to the recording and they are excited about the changes. Please disregard the current WATERMARKED disc you recently received. The new versions will be sent out in the near future.

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 September 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago)

Can't say this new Reba Duets album is especially thrilling me. Starts out okay, oddly enough -- listenable-or-better collabs with LeAnn Rimes then Ronnie Dunn then Kelly Clarkson (the Dunn one, "Does The One Still Blow in Oklahoma," one of those early '70s country-pop style "moving to the bright lights of the hectic big city namely L.A. which is contrasted with the missed small town" songs, sounds as good as lots of stuff on Brooks & Dunn's new album). But then, after those three, the album really seems to go downhill, and how good it is frequently seems to be directly proportional to the extent to which people other than Reba are singing at any given time. By the time you get to the Justin Timberlake duet, he's hardly there at all, as far as I can tell. (Also, I guess Reba creeps me out a little bit these days, and mostly this album just strikes me as one big ego stroke or something. And I'm not all that convinced that her ego is especially earned -- Like, I know she's had a lot of country hits, but she's had fewer and fewer lately, and even back when she was having them all the time, how many were truly great? "Whoever's In New England" obviously, I'll give her that one -- That whole album was pretty decent. A handful of others, maybe. But mostly her taken-for-granted-as-icon status seems like another symbol of Nashville patting itself on its own back for mediocrity.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 23 September 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago)

"Does the Wind Still Blow in Oklahoma"

xhuxk, Sunday, 23 September 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

My friend Inskeep told me the other day that Target was sold out all last week -- he thinks he may be her biggest seller in many years.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 23 September 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

Agree with Xhuxk that only the first three on the Reba Duets jump out immediately as keepers, though the Carole King collab is nice and bright and poppy and the Timberlake is pretty listenable too, despite the dearth of Timberlake himself, though maybe the instruments carry that one. Most of country history being an unknown to me, most of Reba history is unknown as well, though I think her sentimental blatancy might make her "Fancy" even better than Bobby Gentry's impressive original version. I think I said either upthread here or over on rolling teenpop that her voice now (or maybe always) seems like an aural fright wig; it works well on "Because Of You" despite her not being nearly as warm or as good as Kelly C. Her heavy-footedness makes that song extra blatant and it wasn't exactly unblatant to begin with. Yet the Duet version rock harder than the original, somehow. Still not better.

"When You Love Someone Like That" is dominated by LeAnn Rimes, but not to the detriment of Reba, whose frozen quaver is given a lift whenever LeAnn swoops and smokes all over the sky above her.

(If and when I decide I've finally got enough money built up from my LVW gig to go shopping for records, in a few months probably, the LeAnn Rimes catalog might be where I start.)

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago)

her voice now = Reba's voice now

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago)

Orleans r&b stuff. Lousiana Music Factory (google-able), a store in NOLA I used to frequent run by two of the nicest, most knowledgeable guys I ever met (plugging them because they probably need the business, you know), has all the Kenner I know of--including a CD on the Valiant label that contains the outtakes and early shit I referred to upthread.

Getting to the new Sara Evans best-of later today; in the meantime, thought I would just mention that I kind of underrated the latest Suzy Bogguss record. Kind of. Sharon still maintains it's dishwater, but there are a few moments when it's so obvious the woman is, or can be, a great singer. "Even If That Were True" is sort of Karen Carpentering woodwork of the fake-grained '70s variety but actually quite good, and not as overdone as much of the record. The arrangements and songs (the latter, many by her husband, as Alan Partridge would say, "A-ha!") don't do her any justice most of the time, but she's got something in that voice that really good songs and production not stuck in the '80s would bring out beautifully. So, kind of a waste; she sounds pretty fine on the recent Song of America comp doing "Rosie the Riveter."

new 3-CD comp from Tompkins Square, who say they have a new Charlie Louvin live record out this fall, of disaster songs and murder ballads. People Take Warning!--some amazing shit, like William and Versey Smith's '27 "When That Great Ship Went Down," about the Titanic. I truly don't know how to describe this performance except to say that it's blues of a most peculiar and futuristic sort, surreal, two voices, stomps along, fatalism, crude, sophisticated, I dunno. Lots of other stuff including one about Wiley Post and Will Rogers that mentions Eskimos and Oklahoma in the same song, and a country version of "Casey Jones" that points out just how brilliant Furry Lewis' original is.

finally, before I get out of here for the afternoon, thought I'd mention as well that Don sent me a burn of the new Speck Mountain CD, Summer Above, which I just love, and it's country in the sense that it shimmers like folk music but isn't folk music, and if I've heard a better song this year than "Girl Out West" I don't know what it is. Plain beautiful stuff.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago)

Jimmy Draper says that the intro to Lori McKenna's "Unglamorous" reminds him exactly of Hole's "Malibu." The notes are different and the Malibu intro (not to mention the middle and the outro) has more eerie melancholy and more general intensity, but the strategy is the same: a basic chord with a wandering note highlighted, so the strumming moves into then out of then back into dissonance. I definitely prefer Courtney to Lori, 'cause Courtney's more glamorous.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 27 September 2007 06:21 (seventeen years ago)

Speaking of glamour vs. un-, I've never totally warmed up to Beyoncé's gloss, which she's been somewhat willing to roughen and crack through recently anyway, but I way prefer her "Irreplaceable" to Sugarland's. But I like the Sugarland version too. Just after a while the basic generic roteness of the Sugarland singing is, well, generic and ordinary. But I feel the song in either version. The phrase "to the left, to the left" has a feeling of being forced out through a darkness, even though it's far prettier than most r&b melodies. Maybe one of you can explain to me what's going on with the vocals on that phrase in harmonic comparison to the basic accompaniment. I mean, the melody is just using sol and mi there (and then sol and do in relation to the next chord, I think, if I'm hearing this right), which aren't strange notes at all. But something's going on there that makes it feel rich.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 27 September 2007 06:40 (seventeen years ago)

Song I really wished worked on the Reba Duets album, since it's about divorce and joint custody of kids, but the participants turn it into hookless show-tune sap: "Every Other Weekend" with Kenny Chesney (which is also apparently a cut that radio stations have been giving considerable airplay to.)

Song that's finally getting enough airplay to sneak onto the country singles chart this week, more than a year after its album came out and more than nine months after I placed it on my Jackin' Pop and Nashville Scene top-ten singles lists last year even though it wasn't actually a single: "Cleaning This Gun (Come On In Boy)" by Rodney Atkins.

xhuxk, Thursday, 27 September 2007 12:01 (seventeen years ago)

you mean the Rodney song about how he's gonna take this girl out and her dad's cleaning his gun and invites him in to sit a spell--"ya know, anyone try anything funny with my daughter, I dunno what might happen..."? and Frank, I'm not even sure I've ever heard anything by Robert Earl Keen...

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 27 September 2007 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

Yep, Edd, that is indeed the correct Rodney song, and it is a doozy.

Right now I'm sort of perplexing myself with my song selection on Sara Evans' Greatest Hits, which strikes me as both a pretty decent album and a disappointment. Okay, let me me see if my accounting is right here (it may well not be -- somebody should check my math): Only one song from her first two albums ("No Place That Far," maybe the worst song on the best-of), back when people weren't paying attention to her like they should have (and none from her very good debut, not even "I've Got A Tiger By The Tail" or "The Week The River Raged.") But it includes the first four tracks from Born To Fly (probably her best album, so who needs the redundancy?) and two from Restless.
I never heard her last album, so I assume the rest of the tracks are either from there or are stray singles or would-be singles she's put out since.

Overall favorites are I guess "Born To Fly" (which has really cool drumming at the start), "Perfect" (which I always thought had a fairly wacky rhyme scheme --rhyming "perfect" with "perfectly," wtf?), "Cheatin'" (which I'd never heard before -- wow, she gloats that the dude she used to be married to doesn't have cable anymore? uh, neither do I, Sara), "Suds In The Bucket" (which still might somehow be trying too hard), and maybe especially "I Keep Looking," which seems to have the most to do with what little I've heard about Sara's love life (or her ex-husband's accusations thereof) plus its sentiment is the exact opposite of "I Could Not Ask For More" (which is not bad). Anyway, I guess my point is, a lot of other tracks, in general, seem to be merely okay, which doesn't seem like it should have happened with a Sara best-of, but I'll take RCA's word that these are her biggest hits if that's what they're telling me. Still, "Saints And Angels" turns out to be quite pretty in an '80s-style faux-alternative post-Byrds jangle-pop way, and "Love You With All My Heart" is sort of dark at the beginning. I dunno. It's a good record. Could have been better.

Here's what I wrote about her second album in Rolling Stone when it came out (I think I'd reviewed the debut in Request or Spin or somewhere, but I can't find that one on line):

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/saraevans/albums/album/122552/review/6067865/no_place_that_far

xhuxk, Friday, 28 September 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago)

Have heard only recent Sara Evans and on those I think melodies and arrangements are way too placid. (But I see that Rolling Stone will actually let you play the early alb that Xhuxk reviewed, if you register.)

When did parents start dropping the h from Sara(h)?

So far have had one shot at Sarah Johns' "Big Love In A Small Town," and she's got a great big twang that gets my immediate attention though the alb doesn't get going until halfway through and my ultimate judgment might be that, same as with Sara Evans, the songs let her down.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 28 September 2007 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

Sara's best-of isn't what it could be in my opinion, either. For one thing, what I think is her best song ever, "Backseat of a Greyhound Bus" (which was enough of a hit off a Restless, her best record, I'd judge--made #16), ain't on there. And while I think that Pete Anderson's production of her first album was perhaps a tad uncessarily reductive, it was still indeed a fine record (I listen to it more these days than I did a few years back, plus she's got better everything than Pete's other client Dwight Y.--but I digress). 4 songs from Born to Fly. Restless, 2 if I'm counting right here: "Perfect" and "Suds in the Bucket." No Place That Far, 1 song, the title track. The last record, Real Fine Place, 3 songs not including one they could've larded it with, the best song on the record, Lori McKenna's "Bible Song." and then 4 new songs. "Coalmine" was a single off of the last one, too, and that's a good 'un. So, the charts dictate and nothing wrong with that for a greatest hits, but RCA still could've included "Backseat" and "Bible Song" and made it, gosh, 16 tracks and 55 or 50 minutes (didn't time it but surely they coulda made room).
anyway, here's my take on the Career up to the last one, from the Voice a couple years ago:
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0543,hurt2,69152,22.html

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 28 September 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

shoot, Sara's greatest hits is actually 58 minutes. all the more reason to go ahead and use the limits of this CD technology and made it 70 minutes or even 75, a Quality Artiste deserves the overview. So, "As If" contains the line "we don't need to have this conversation" which I find interesting in light of her courtroom battles. Good song, actually, Sara in optimist mode watching her guy's butt in "worn-out bluejeans, walking around in the warm sunshine." But wait, can this actually be a bit of sarcasm: "unless there's something I missed, as if, as if"? Hmm. Plus just like I remembered a couple years ago, I hate the drum sound and overall squinky-clean uptight sound of "Born to Fly," quite a contrast to the warmth of most of the other stuff here, to my ears. Of the new ones, "Love Me With All Your Heart" seems a bit blah, suburban drama at its most bland. Although glad to know she seems to want to pretend neither of the peoples whose hands are touching in whatever van or mall have a "reason to pretend" they don't know what's going on. Hmm again. Sounds weird on "Pray for You" but great spare arrangement quoting Doris Day and Sly Stone, nice country moment and perhaps it's about her husband. "He wasn't who he thought he was/And I can't believe he stopped loving me." Hell, I can't believe it either but her fans and Sara herself know something about it all I probably will never know.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 28 September 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

finally, return to roots move at end of Sara's Greatest Hits. Making coffee, off to work, gotta go, husband stuck in shitty job but Sara promises untold wonders after clearing the table. "It's so good to know that love still remains," and the chord change reminiscent of "Real Fine Place," fiddle = country, and then second verse seems to reference a woman who can't love her guy any more. "World keeps turning and moving so fast," can't be sure what will happen in geopolitical sense and otherwise. So, a sop in a way to her fans who have been concerned about Sara's head--she's been thru the ringer and she acknowledges this, and the music drops out for re-emphasis of the doubts she storms thru. Who's that second voice saying "ain't you glad," a female Michael McDonald? Pretty good; I saw Michael McDonald perform in Nashville recently and he looked terrible, really bloated, so Sara needs to take up with him and get him on this Nature's Path Organic Optimum Zen Cranberry Ginger For Inner Harmony cereal I've beenn eating--not enough cranberries but good stuff. The comp works conceptually, a keeper but I still miss some of the deeper stuff they left off, but it's just like the cereal, enough ginger to make up for the lack of fruit.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 28 September 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

So, while listening to Paula Adbul's deeper-and-more-consistent than Sara Evans's '07 Greatest Hits CD this week, I came up with this fuzzy theory that Paula's "It's Just The Way That You Love Me" ("Ain't the Bahamas/It ain't Monaco/Honey I ain't impressed/With all the places we go") -----> Shania Twain's "You Don't Impress Me Much" ----> Sara's "Perfect" ("If you don't take me to Paris/
on a lovers' getaway/it's alright, it's alright"). but I'm probably just imagining things. (Not imagining how self-consciously wacky -- but wacky nonethless -- "Vibeology" sounds, though. Or that "Ain't Never Gonna Give You Up," which I don't think I'd heard before, is a blatant Motown homage.)

Watched the 1980 movie Cruising, reissued this month on DVD, via Netflix last night (Pacino pretty great; rest of the flick, uh, frequently problematic), and what really blew me away (has anybody ever pointed this out before?) was the music. After the first gay-leather-bar-scene song, "Lump," by Jerome Bailey's P-Funk spinoff Mutiny (which made me wish I'd kept my copy of that Mutiny on the Mamaship LP), pretty much every song, at least in the course of the movie itself, sounds like early AC/DC! But they're not (and they're not by Angel City or Rose Tattoo either) -- google search suggests that most of them are by Mink Deville, Rough Trade, or some band I never heard of called the Cripples, all of which acts I am suddenly way curious about.(I'm guessing either Rough Trade -- Canadians, right? - or Deville did the French song I blinfold-tested as Metal Urban or somebody.) Oh yeah, a Germs song, too, and almost everything's produced by Jack Nitzsche. Not what I'd think of as turn of the '80s leather bar music, but hey, what do I know -- I'm sure Udo Dirkschneider would've liked it all. But anyway, what does this have to do with the country thread, right? Well, one of the most AC/DC-sounding Bon-Scott-talk-rhythm songs, I thought, was one called "Spy Boy" by John Hiatt, who later mellowed out and had country crossover hits or hints of them anyway. I remembered a noble if not entirely successful ZZ Top imitation or two on his OK mid '80s Warming Up to The Ice Age, but this morning suddenly I'm really wondering about his early, new wave era stuff, when people were calling him the American Elvis Costello. Was it a lot better than people have ever led me to believe, or what? (Though wasn't he beloved by Trouser Press, at least? Rolling Stone Record Guide seems ambivalent about him, and Christgau suprisingly seems to think he had a few moments in the '80s):

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=john+hiatt

xhuxk, Saturday, 29 September 2007 12:51 (seventeen years ago)

Other stray thoughts about stuff:

Favorite song so far on Terri Clark's now-postponed My Next Life is "Dirty Girl" -- where Terri gets, uh, dirty. By which she may well literally mean off-roading in a recreational vehicle (I'm not sure yet, really), but you definitely get the idea Terri's up for more dirtiness than just that.

Most country song on Billy Squier's quite good (if more hackworklike than his first couple) albums --recently reissued on American Beat Records --Emotions In Motion is "Keep Me Satisfied," which basically sounds like Aerosmith doing rockabilly. Most Bryan Adams-like track is "She's A Runner."

Hardingrock's Grimen (on Candlelight USA) is often beautiful Celtic folk-goth metal via Norway:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=192928551

And finally, after three decades, I finally realized in a doctor's waiting room yesterday that "Like A Rolling Stone" and "Baker Street" (which even calls somebody "a rolling stone") are almost exactly the same song (or at least they're about the same stuff).

xhuxk, Saturday, 29 September 2007 13:02 (seventeen years ago)

Another random Hiatt question, for Mekons completists: Is the alleged "John Hyatt," who appears with Jon Langford and other Mekes on the Three-Johns-like country-punked-Detroit-rock-tribute-as-I-recall (I liked and probably even reviewed it somewhere at the time, but sold it eons ago) 1988 Jelly Bishops EP Kings of Barstool Mountain mentioned in the below link, actually John Hiatt?

http://www.mekons.de/tom1.htm

In unrelated news, one of the less exciting songs on the still unreleased Bomshel album (Lorrie Morgan-style-mushed "The Power Of One," opening verse about Rosa Parks and all, at #60) and one of the more exciting songs on Eric Church's album ("Sinners Like Me," a waltz about carrying on the family tradition, at #58) also enter the lower rungs of Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart this week. And Rissi Palmer's "Country Girl," for some reason, re-enters at #56. (Atkins's cleaning-gun-for-when-daughter's- boyfriend-returns-from her-date number is at #54.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 29 September 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

Ha, so I just realized that that means Church has been on the country chart with both "Guys Like Me" and "Sinners Like Me" this year! (Lots of people like him, apparently.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 29 September 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

Most of Terri Clark's new album is striking me as pretty meh..."Gypsy Boots" is an okay hard, somewhat funky blues with backup singers quoting "Papa Was A Rolling Stone" (and mom was a hippie, apparently) though. And "Live From America (It's Saturday Night)" takes its melody from "Whenever I Call You Friend" by Kenny Loggins, for whatever that's worth.

Stacie Collins' The Lucky Spot, despite the usual cdbaby could-stand-for-more-professional-quality-control caveats (= voice, production, songs), seems better, and way more consistently tough and kicking. Favorite track so far is the Hank Williams-infused rockabilly thing "Ramblin." Ex-Georgia Satellite Dan Baird seems to help a lot:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/staciecollins

A smart and proper ten-just-ten songs just like Collins's album, but a whole lot better -- one of the best albums of the year I'm thinking so far in fact, is from Show Dog Nashville (= Toby's label) signees Flynville Train. Great rhythm section, and maybe funnier than Kentucky Headhunters, which is saying a lot. Plus they look like scraggly long-haired turkey hunters. The guy with the goofiest hats could almost be in Dr. Hook's Medicine Show, or the Muppets band or somthing. Almost every cut is sounding great to me so far, and I haven't even started getting to the bottom of the lyrics; faves include "Honky Tonk Jail," "Red Nekkid," "Tequila Sheila," and the very Rockpile-like "Truck Stop In The Sky." Curious what George would think of their Savoy Brown ("Tell Mama") and Beatles ("Baby's In Black," partially sung in fake Limey accent) covers. Might be some other covers too; lots of variation in the songwriting credits, and other copyrights dating back to 2001. (Album's at #53 and single "Nowhere Than Somewhere" on #57 on the country charts this week. "High On The Mountain," their great track from Broken Bridges soundtrack, included as well):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=91076708

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 September 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

And wow, this new Trikont German comp Dirty Laundry: The Soul of Black Country is fucking incredible, and a whole lot more playable and less academic than Warner Bros. (still nonetheless great and indispensible) three-disc From Where I Stand: The Black Experience In Country Music from 1988. Pick hits so far are from Candi Station, Clarence Gatemouth Brown (who I've never really explored before, but who does this great swampy cajun cross between Bo Diddley and Creedence's "Up Around the Bend" called "Mama Mambo"), Andre Williams, and Solomon Burke. But I've only just begun to listen:

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6833866/a/Dirty+Laundry:+The+Soul+Of+Black+Country.htm

And finally, the rockabilly track I mentioned on Billy Squier's Emotions In Motion I mentioned above, "Keep Me Satisfied," also sounds exactly like "Smokin'" by Boston. Album's best Zep-funk workouts are "One Good Woman" and the title track (the latter of which, along with "Everybody Wants You," was one of two good radio hits from the album back in the day.) Overall way better than I expected.

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 September 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

(Candi STATON, obviously. Who does "Stand My Your Man," btw.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 September 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

"Stand BY Your Man." Jeez.

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 September 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago)

And that Warner Bros black country box set was 1998, not 1988. And I spelled Flynnville Train's name wrong. (Man, I should just quit while I'm ahead.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 September 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

And oh yeah, yet another good album track just now entering the country singles chart (#59): Kelly Pickler, "Things That Never Cross A Man's Mind."

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 September 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

those guys in Flynnville Train look amazing--especially the guy wearing the Superman shirt. I've got to check this one out. Here's the Nashville Scene's Michael McCall on FT and others,
from August:http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Arts/Music/2007/07/19/A_Little_Bit_Country_a_Lot_Rock/index.shtml

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 30 September 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

Talking of country soul, today I'm excited because I read that Kent are putting out a CD called "Swamp Dogg's Country Soul Girls" which looks like it contains the entirety of Sandra Phillips' "Too Many People In One Bed" album, which I've never managed to lay my hands on.

I recently picked up Kent's Charlie Whitehead reissue, which has all of the Raw Spitt LP, which was (according to the sleevenotes and my ears) something of a companion piece to Swamp's "Total Destruction to your Mind". Good old Kent. I'm so happy that they've taken on the country soul stuff instead of concventrating so heavily on Northern stuff which is fine and all, but I get bored of it so easily.

Tim, Sunday, 30 September 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago)

Ha, so I just realized that that means Church has been on the country chart with both "Guys Like Me" and "Sinners Like Me" this year! (Lots of people like him, apparently.)

This might be the best single he's released so far--though it sounds a lot like Steve Earle's turn of the millennium stuff (with the Celtic nonnie-nahs)--but has he released "Pledge Allegiance to the Hag" as a single yet? I figured that for a kick ass jukebox sing-a-long--especially with every other song these days name dropping Haggard or Cash--certainly a better one than "All My Friends Say" which seems the current reigning champ of that kind of thing.

mulla atari, Monday, 1 October 2007 03:37 (seventeen years ago)

Checking AMG I see that the previous singles were "How 'Bout You" and "Two Pink Lines." Church tried too much in the latter to sound like Rush Limbaugh's favorite phony soldier and in the latter to sound just enough like John Cougar.

mulla atari, Monday, 1 October 2007 04:31 (seventeen years ago)

But "How 'Bout You" has a real stubborn kick to it (not to mention its own Cougar quotient) and a good chip on its shoulder, though! My inclination is that that's still my favorite of the Church singles, though they're all good. Someday I'll play them back to back again and make sure, not not time today.

Re that Michael McCall piece Edd linked to:

Great first line; wish I'd thought of this myself, even if it's not always precisely true per se':

Like all good Southern rock bands, Flynnville Train look more like roadies than rock stars

Otherwise, a nice roundup, and I agree with him that Flynnville Train are the most fun of the three bands, though I apparently like Cole Deggs and the Lonesome and Halfway To Hazard more than he does. Neither band struck me as especially dreary or humorless, and their albums seemed pretty solid to my ears, though I should go back and check them out again and make sure. Also wasn't aware that Cole Deggs and the Lonesome were so dependent on studio musicians. Though I don't hold it against them.

xhuxk, Monday, 1 October 2007 11:37 (seventeen years ago)

(Between Cole Deggs and Halfway to Hazard, I'm also not as sure as McCall that the former sound the more Cougar/Petty and the latter sound the more Hinder/Nickeback/emo of the two; they both absorb all that stuff, and plenty of hair-metal, too. But McCall does make a good case for how he hears them.)

xhuxk, Monday, 1 October 2007 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

Opening lines of the Flynnville Train album are a classroom example of the Gladys Knight and the Pips rule, where you undermine profundity with mundanity:

"There's wars and insurrection
Trouble comes in all directions
Hair loss and indigestion
You only pump after you pay."

After that verse (does the last line concern going to a prostitute?), opening song "Last Good Time", one of the best songs and quite possibly the hardest rocking on the album (which means one of the hardest rocking by anybody this year) goes on to include hey! hey! hey! gang shouts, vocally recited whammy bar parts, and somewhat Big & Rich-reminiscent instructions to "get your supercalifragilistic freak on" via the use of substances drunken and smoked.

Album is a probable shoo-in for my top ten. And a possible number one for the year. At least this week.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, so I went back to both Cole Deggs & the Lonesome and Halfway to Hazard for a couple-months-after-I-first-heard-and-liked-them bonus round, and decided that lots of stuff on both (often especially the more "rocking" songs, interestingly enough) is more run-of-the-mill than I'd first taken it for.

With both of them, what mostly jumps out at me is the darker, more emotional, more world-weary songs: With Halfway to Hazard, best cut by far is "Die By My Own Hand" (Glen Campbell via Journey maybe?), followed by "I'm Tired" I think; Cole Deggs basically sound great whenever the melodies and (studio musician-played, I gather now?) guitars veer toward Marshall Tucker cowboy jazz territory -- "I Got More," "Out Of Alabama," maybe "I Haven't Stopped Hurtin'," maybe "The One That Got Away," and I think especially "Huggin' The Blacktop." Most of the rest of the cuts, on both albums, are still pretty good, and often really crafty and well-written, but truth is, only select songs really grab me. Cole Deggs is the better of the two, I think.

Neither will make my overall top ten for the year (though both have at least an outside shot at my Nasvhille Scene top ten, and will easily make, say, my overall top 50.) It wouldn't shock me if lots of people considered them marginal, though.

xhuxk, Thursday, 4 October 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

Hey, where did everybody go, again?

If tracks # 6, 9, and 12 are indication (no titles on my advance, but I'm tentatively calling them "Novacaine," "Firebird Fly," and "Hell Has No Fury," based on their choruses), the Little Big Town album could easily (already) give Flynnville Train (and Miranda Lambert etc.) a run for my album-of-the-year money. I really regret not putting their breakthrough album (which wasn't technically a debut, right? didn't they have some self-released thing before it?) in my top ten a couple years ago, and so far this followup is sounding like a quantum leap in confidence. "Novacaine" (w/ handclaps and party voices and boy-girl harmonies worked into the expert rhythm) could wind up being the country-music dance song of the year, and "Hell Has No Fury" is almost funk, at least in the Beatles "Come Together"/Don Henley "Dirty Laundry" sense, but with "Life In the Fast Lane" powerchords (and very Henley-sounding vocals eventually turning high and lovely, and I hope that doesn't scare Eagles-haters away.) "Firebird Fly" pretty much splits the difference between Eagles and Fleetwood Mac, and so far strikes me as a pretty great road song; in fact, so far, I'd say they're taking all those Fleetwood Mac for modern times rumours to heart -- very cool.

Speaking of dirty laundry, the black country comp of that name that I mentioned here a week or so ago turns out to be more of a mixed bag and not quite as consistently perfect as it at first seemed, but after a week it's still in my changer and I'm still liking all of it, which counts for a lot. Joe Simon's "Chokin' Kind" is a weird song (about, uh, choking?? I'm not sure) with cool percussion beneath; Betty Lavette turns Kenny Rogers' First Edition into funk; Stoney Edwards sings a lot like Merle Haggard; Andre Williams...okay, his cut's got Jack White on it and is called "Jet Black Daddy Lilly White Mama" and it's closer to blues-punk for Williamsburg hispters than country but that's okay; James Brown tears "Your Cheatin' Heart" to pieces (in fact lots of the cuts seem to be covers of country covers that don't really sound county anymore); Curtis Mayfield "Dirty Laundy" is prettier than Don Henley's; and Solomon Burke's "I Can't Stop Loving You" makes me think I should listen to more Solomon Burke. And I should probably investigate James and Bobby Purify while I'm at it, right?

Reissue of Fraser & Debolt's tuneless and lethargic alleged lost 1970 classic album with Ian Guenther on Fallout, though, convinces me I'm never going to appreciate freak-folk, so it's time I quit trying.

xhuxk, Saturday, 6 October 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago)

And okay, so. The new Bruce Springsteen album. I've already probably spent more time trying to figure out what people like about this one than any Springsteen album in the last two decades (since, like, Tunnel of Love). And who knows, it may well be his best album of that time period. But I still don't like it much, and I'll be damned if I can comprehend the "return to rocking" claims people seem to be bandying about. There's basically, as far as I can tell, one decently rocking cut out of 12 -- "Livin' In The Future", a good, sort of Tex-Mexish garage thing that I actually like a lot. (Its melody bizarrely reminds me at some points of Bowie's "TVC15," which reminds me for the first time in 23 years that when I first heard Born In the U.S.A/ in 1984, one of the songs sounded to me like "Rebel Rebel," though I'll be damned if I can remember which one right now.) Anyway, besides that song, I'm just not hearing Bruce's band (some augmented verion of E Street, apparently) kick in, Pearl Jam pal Brendan O'Brien's production touches as often as not sound like some kind of late-U2 anthems-with-the-rock-gravity-taken-out movie soundtrack mush, most of the songs seem lazy and half-written and devoid of the characters Bruce used to regularly bring to life (or the sound's so dreary I'm just not noticing them), and his gut-busting is generally unbearable -- totally deserving of the "colon blow" accusation Anthony Miccio just made on another ILM thread a couple hours ago. "Girls In Summer Clothes" (title from "Paint It Black"?) actually has a pretty good, duskily moody melody, but I hate his codeined singing in that one -- at the beginning, it sounds like a 45 being played at 33, almost. His voice sounds really clogged in "Radio Nowhere", too. Those ones and "You'll Be Comin' Down" and "Long Walk Home" (which seems to pull off a little early-E-Street type drama --or, okay, a little "Streets of Phiadelphia" drama at least) and a couple others aren't awful. Which, yeah, is better than I can say for most Springsteen albums I've tried to listen to in the '90s and '00s. At least it's halfway competent -- good for him. But anybody who believes this album rocks honestly owes it to themselves to turn on a random 2007 country station for ten minutes: Van Zant imitating John Cougar imitating Springsteen, or Jack Ingram imitating Bryan Adams imitating Springsteen, or Phil Vassar (or, outside of country, the Hold Steady for that matter) just plain imitating Springsteen, blow pretty much any song here out of the water on hooks or melodies or riffs (or usually words) alone. I'm really curious, though, to hear what people think I might be missing with this thing.

xhuxk, Saturday, 6 October 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, "Gypsy Biker" has some drama too, I guess -- in the guitar parts, at least. And it reads okay on the lyric sheet. But Bruce just sounds too muffled or under water or something to put the lyrics over.

Most Catholic verse I noticed on the lyric sheet:

"Pour me a drink Theresa
In one of those glasses you dust off
And I'll watch the bones in your back
Like the Stations of the Cross."

Okay, that's not bad, in a Rescue Me kind of way, I admit. But reading lyrics sheets is cheating.

Most Catholic verse I noticed on the lyric sheet so far of the also-so-far-disappointing (because seemingly too straightahead so-what thug-punk, with not enough Irish bagpipe folk and blue-collar hard-rock drama and melodies working as counterpoint) new album by Dropkick Murphys (who Bruce apparently took his son to see last month -- and I think I heard somewhere that he's been going to see Hold Steady and Jesse Malin* shows in the past few months, too):

"Young kids in Catholic school
Elderly parents living under your roof
You pay the bills and you pay the price
You don't back down and you won't play nice."

* -- Whose album this year struck me like a bad solo Paul Westerberg snooze or in that general vicinity, but I haven't cared about Malin since D Generation's debut, which I overrated at the time regardless.

xhuxk, Saturday, 6 October 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

(And okay, I don't know if any of Vassar's more-Bruce-like stuff has actually made it onto country stations, per se'--especially since his album's been postponed. But there are tons of other examples you could stick in there, probably, from Jamie O'Neal to Kenny Chesney to Pat Green, where country people seem to understand what used to make Bruce's music great a lot more than he does himself these days.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 6 October 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago)

(And actually, "Fairmount Hill" on the Murphys' album -- "a Boston take on the traditional tune 'Spancil Hill'" -- turns out to be very good, very Irish folk, and very Catholic: "came their duty to fulfill/at the parish church on Thatcher Street/a mile from Fairmount Hill." So maybe I just need to spend some more time with the new album, and it'll kick in beyond the bullyboy-to-snarling-dude vocal switchoffs that seem to happen in every other song, and that are starting to seem pretty old-hat by now.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 6 October 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago)

ah, I'm in the middle of helping Sharon move, trying to get stuff done and written. I'm not going to weigh in on Springsteen--not a fan, altho I like odds and sods by the Boss. I already started a thread on Bruce re the Pitchfork assertion that he's an "indie ideal." I dunno, that sounds like...crazee talk to me. Just sounds like some indie folk are gettin' older and thinking sincerity is OK. Fuck.

Went back, after reading Christgau's review of Lori McKenna--A minus, I think, "eye for detail," etc., to Lori's record. I still don't hear it. Glorified demos. much.
Decided, tho, that Sarah Johns' record is kinda fine. Maybe, the best debut of the year. I was asked to pick same for Nashville Scene recently, and Johns' record is the one I came up with. I like the way they rip off Duane Eddy licks on "One in the Middle" and she sounds conflicted to me, not overbright but was Tammy Wynette? Or Lynn Anderson? Inadvertent feminism at its best, and perhaps the generic quality of it all is what makes it work. Dunno. I like the record. Listening to Peter Case's tribute to blues and Sleepy John Estes--so far, pretty boring. More later, back to packing...

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 7 October 2007 00:58 (seventeen years ago)

meant to say, re Lori, as much as I respect her achievement, I cannot enjoy it very much. apparently, she played the Ryman last week and it was an event. I don't get it, but I don't worship the songwriter like we're supposed to in Music City.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 7 October 2007 01:00 (seventeen years ago)

his gut-busting is generally unbearable... his codeined singing

Er, is codeined gut-busting even possible? Might be a contradiction, I dunno. Somehow, though, he sounds both full of himself and reigned in -- Maybe O'Brien wanted him to sound like Eddie Vedder or something?

As for Dropkick Murphys, there's gratifyingly more Catholicism than I thought (first song, which basically sounds like Rancid, mentions convents, rectories, sacristies, parochial school, and the Bells of St. Mary's), but I'm still increasingly convinced it's their most ignorable album of the last few. Sometimes when it slows down ("Echoes on A Street," which has a promising title) it just sorta hopscotches like pro forma pop-punk. Only songs I really like so far are both apparent public domain resurrections (more evidence that the Murphys' best melodies have usually been the ones they didn't write themselves) -- aforementioned "Fairmount Hill" and "Johnny I Hardly Knew Ya," which is basically an updated-I-guess "Johnny Comes Marching Home" (though I'm not sure which of those trad titles came first), a street-punk staple for almost two decades now, ever since "English Civil War" by the Clash in 1978.

More good tracks on that Dirty Laundry: The Soul of Black Country come from Arthur Alexander, Bobby Womack, Etta James, Pointer Sisters, Freddie North. Don't think I've even heard of Freddie before.

Just realized that the song I'm calling "Novacaine" on the Little Big Town album also sounds quite a bit like Sheryl Crow. In a good way. Most Stevie Nicks track might be the one I'm calling "Evangeline." There's also some mellow folk-rock beauty on the album, some mellower late-Eagles-ballad hackwork that's good but not great, and at least two tracks (including the one I was called "Firebird Fly" above, though it's more likely "Fly Bird Fly") where Arizona seems to figure prominently in the lyrics.

xhuxk, Sunday, 7 October 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago)

(So I wonder if anybody ever considered having Freddie North record with Joe South. Might've made for a good matchup, and also a good album title!)

xhuxk, Sunday, 7 October 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago)

I'm still here, but one of my computers has my password locked in and one doesn't, so I can only post on the one that remembers it for me...

I wanted to love Sarah Johns, really did, because her heart is obviously in the right place, and her talent is at least halfway there. But with the exception of "The One in the Middle," which I'll stand up for, a lot of her songs trip over themselves. Like "When Do I Get Time to Be a Woman"--great idea for a song, but it's so proud of itself that it repeats the title over and over, just in case you missed the point the first 50 times. And her bio makes a lot of hay about her bucking recent Nashville tradition as a neo-traditionalist, but she does that contemporary Nashville songwriting thing that is the bane of my existence, which is thinking that she has to both begin and end every chorus with the song title, just in case the callout research people accidentally pick the wrong seven seconds, I guess. And I played this thing a LOT, trying to convince myself that I liked it well enough to make a case for it getting space in my magazine's increasingly cramped review section. I just couldn't, but I'm still rooting that she makes good on her promise and makes a superior second album. (Ha! As if there are any second acts in initially failed mainstream country lives.)

Willman, Sunday, 7 October 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Michael McCall, in Nashville Scene, asserts that Sarah Johns, Carrie Underwood and Sarah Buxton--whose record I have yet to hear--represent a trend in Nashville that makes hay out of the real experiences of young women. (He cites some other acts, none of which I know much about, who were alos young women but whose songs were written by men, so they failed because they weren't authentic enough.) And I agree with Willman--some of the songs on Johns' debut repeat more than necessary. I like her sass and her voice; she seems raw to me beyond what you'd expect. I guess I've done enough of my own complaining about the banality of much of Nashville songwriting that I just accept it a bit more now. It's like complaining about the way Nashvillians drive--if one more person eases into the goddam turn lane on a busy street and then makes his move into the flow of traffic--I'll write a song about it. Which no one wants to hear.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 7 October 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

Last time I heard the Sarah Johns album, I liked "He Hates Me" and "It's Hard to Be a Girl (In A Young Man's World)" even more than "The One In The Middle," which I like a lot. So I dunno....to me, it's a good album. And in general, I guess I'm oblivious to the repeated title-line phenomenon that Chris is complaining about: seems to me that's usually just what I'd probably call a hook. And I don't notice country songs out of Nashville being any more consistently banally structured than any other songwriting out there these days. When you get down to it, in fact, on balance, compared to most non-Nashville songwriting I come across (country or non-country), I usually hear just the opposite. But then I tend to like hooks to have immediate impact, which I don't have to work too hard for.

Dropkick Murphys album (sorry I keep going back to it) is fine, really -- plenty of rousing shoutalongs fine for hoisting a pint or punching a face to, which is what they're here for. And a big obsession on family now, which is nice, if maybe predictable as the big lugs in the band get older. Just a lack of great cuts, compared to their last few albums.

xhuxk, Sunday, 7 October 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

Sarah Johns' "When Do I Just Get to Be a Woman" and Elizabeth Cook's "Sometimes It Takes Balls to Be a Woman": The same song?

Now, I'm not accusing anybody of anything. But for me, they might as well be. Look:

http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/johns-sarah/when-do-i-get-to-be-a-woman-22853.html

http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Elizabeth_Cook/Balls/Sometimes_It_Takes_Balls_To_Be_A_Woman/257146.html

Both these (critically acclaimed) songs have that thing I'm talking about that automatically turns me off to a singer/songwriter. And it just dawned on me that the title catchphrases have pretty much the same meter or number of syllables. If you asked me to sing either one of them right now, I'd sing the same tune, even though they're probably not nearly as interchangeable as I think of them being right now. But going back to my pet peeve: It's sheer laziness and/or cravenness to not only open your song with the title phrase, but use it to end some of your verses, and use it at the beginning AND end of your chorus.

I'm trying to think if some of the great old songs did this and I'm just conveniently forgetting them. And there must be examples. But I try to think of something like, randomly, "Help Me Make It Through the Night." Wouldn't it be a much better song if, instead of "Take the ribbon from your/my hair," it said "Help me make it through the night"? Followed soon after by, in place of "I don't care what's wrong or right," the much improved "Help me make it through the night"?

I'm off on my rant! Well, clearly I need to hire a plane and just drop leaflets outlining my objection all over Music Row, and get it off my chest. And when I do put together my rant, I will make sure that each paragraph begins and ends with a reprise of my thesis sentence!

I'll give you a break from my hectoring before I return to try to convince you why "Magic" is the Greatest Album of the Last Fifteen Years (Or So).

Willman, Monday, 8 October 2007 03:45 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, I feel a need to amend my last post, because I know it will be easy to come up with examples of a thousand great songs that repeat the title endlessly. Going mentally through the classic songbook, I thought of "A Good Year for the Roses," the chorus of which begins and ends with a variation on the title--but at least there's a slight difference between "What a good year" and "It's been a good year," and it doesn't show up in the verse or at the beginning of the song as well. But then there's something like "On the Road Again," which is a really extreme example of the thing I'm claiming drives me up the wall, and of course, I love it. So what I'm really thinking of specifically is the kind of song title that means to impress you with its cleverness, and which may even be clever... but which deprives you of the delicious suspense of waiting for it at the end of each chorus by endless hammering it at you throughout the song.

"...Wait for it!" Now that's a catchphrase I wish they would drill into their heads in songwriter school, if there were such a thing. Because I love hooks as much as you, Chuck. That's one of the reasons I've turned into more of a mainstream country guy than an alt-country guy over the years: because I am all about the hooks. But I think there's an art to the tease of making the listener actually be on pins and needles waiting for it to come back around again, instead of dreading it. I'm also willing to admit that I may be the only guy alive who feels this way anymore.

Willman, Monday, 8 October 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago)

Shooter's new album has a few hooks, esp. the sinuous chorus about a transcendant babe, with horns Doug Sahm and Herb Alpert might both approve, for once (?) And the next one brings storms to the garden, brothers and sisters! (flashback: Kid Rock brought "The Jeeezus of Rock N Roll" to Letterman last night, with Twisted Brown Truckerettes, Sliver Bullets etc--Creem's J. Kordosh on Michigan: "Jesus! The Land Of Blue-Eyed Soul!") So Shooter's best is still fine, but more often just okay (though growing on me). But also relies a bit too much on charm, and some of it's way too dinky, the good ol boy radio bait seems almost shamefaced (which he isn't when admitting to more than self-destruction; he's pretty straight-forward about that--leaves mellerdramer to the arrangements, good and bad). Been touring with Earl Greyhound and Govt Mule, so why not branch out a little more on disc, like he's done previously--especially considering this note on continuing decline of the "majors," and turn-around of Big Machine, to some extent, esp with Taylor Dane (also Jeff Black with a song about downloads etc); http://www.npr.org/template/story/story.php?storyId=15127365

dow, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

by Craig Havighurst

All Things Considered, October 9, 2007 · Country music album sales have dropped 30 percent at midyear, according to Nielsen/Soundscan — a dramatic drop for a genre that seemed to be weathering the overall drop in album sales that's afflicting the rest of the music industry.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15127365

Not too big of a shocker. Walmart and Best Buy carrying less cds is part of the story.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 04:06 (seventeen years ago)

Have we talked about the Swedish alt-country scene? I'm right now listening to this Swedish group, the Lancaster Orchestra. It's a guy named Carl Mathson, who sings a bit like Will Oldham. Sharon says their music reminds her of Souled American, whom I don't think I've ever heard. Anyway, their second record is the one I like less--pretty doleful and not all that tuneful or texturally interesting. Never Cried Once When I Could Have. Their first one, With Help from Absent Friends, I like better, it's a bit more experimental, sort of like Lambchop but Carl sings prettier. He sounds depressed, pretty much, on every song, but it's uncannily accurate as far as this stuff goes. They're coming to Nashville for the Americana Music conference. So anyway, there are apparently more people in Scandanavia in this vein, including the marvelously named Thomas Denver Jonsson. Who I hear sounds more like M. Ward, but I haven't checked him out yet.
I wrote earlier that I didn't much like Peter Case's Let Us Now Praise Sleepy John, but you know, he sings OK, not even too self-indulgently or I'm-a-road-warrior-with-the-eye-of-poet (which the record is kind of skirting the whole time), and it pretty much works as an accomplished primer of acoustic guitar styles, mostly not blues, with lyrics about how the rich get out of paying for their crimes (well, they pay a million dollars in bail), and various examinations of loserdom. Richard Thompson guests on one tune, Duane Jarvis on one--my favorite, "I'm Gonna Change My Ways," which has an actual catchy chorus and is actually sort of rock and roll or pop. Much better than I originally thought, lyrics well-observed and I'll give the guy credit, he sings like he's under pressure to get the shit out, which counts for a lot in this kind of music. On Yep Roc, naturally.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 11 October 2007 03:01 (seventeen years ago)

and, the kicker as far as Lancaster Orchestra goes--the lyrics are in English and he almost always gets it right. But my favorite almost-got-it-right betrayal of idiom moment is when he sings "I'm like a stray cat in the staircase/I'm like a guy who's lost at the tracks." I heard it as "a guy who's lost on the tracks," like railroad tracks. So the dude hasn't made it to Churchill Downs yet like that guy in Pavement--he will.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 11 October 2007 03:08 (seventeen years ago)

Come to think of it, I thought of this as country (and def alt-Swede, though all Swede is alt eh?) Despite title, it's the kind of romantic moment that's cruel with beauty and the candlelit need-to-know something which may well harsh your mellow, podner (stream track, mebbe read review)
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=810

dow, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago)

Dang! Substitute 840

dow, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:54 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, it (and the rest of the album, in my P&J/Idolator Top Tens,though the rest isn't as country-minded as this [vocalanguish and lyric,more than tune/arrangement]is)correct link this time:
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=840

dow, Saturday, 13 October 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

I will have to give the Swede country idea more thought. I probably have some somewhere, no doubt...

Meanwhile:

LITTLE BIG TOWN -- Album of the year, I'm pretty sure. Saw them live and acoustic at Housing Works Book Cafe in Soho Tuesday, and they killed, especially on the new stuff. Karen Fairchild (the short girl with dark hair) is clearly the Stevie Nicks of the group, and sings the two most Fleetwood Mac-like songs on the album -- "Fine Line" (with its chorus that sounds like "Go Your Own Way," which the band apparently performed with Lindsey Buckingham on Crossroads, though I haven't heard or seen that) and "Evangeline." She also sings "Lonely Enough," most theologically doubting song on the album, with a melody that I swear reminds me of "God" by XTC (which I've always kinda hated) but turns it into something agnostically useful. Her husband, Jimi Westbrook, who sings "Fury," is the one with the Don Henley voice. Phillip Sweet is the hippie of the band, and he sings "Vapor," which has one verse about Jesus (not mentioned by name) and sounds like "Old Man" by Neil Young and concocts a chorus by switching around "Paper in Fire" by John Cougar Mellencamp, who Little Big Town turn out to have collaborated quite a bit with (on either his current or next album, neither of which I've heard.) Lalena says "Firebird Fly" (also sung by Sweet) reminds her of "Listen To The Music" by the Doobie Brothers. Songs on the album I love a lot: "Fine Line," "Evangeline," "Vapor," "Fury." Songs I love just a little less: "Novacaine," "Firebird Fly," "Lonely Enough" (which is subtle and slow and may well grow on me.) Song I like: "I'm With the Band" (the single.) Songs I'm on the fence about: "That's Where I'll Be," "Only What You Make Of It." Only song I don't like much: "To Know Love."

BILLY JOE ROYAL -- Sings better on his new album Going By Daydreams than B.J. Thomas did on the sampler I heard of his new album. Understated, but nice. But I'm not hearing any great songs. I guess the title track and "Under The Boardwalk" cover are okay, and probably a couple others. "Where Did the '60s Go" is completely ridiculous, but has an okay sound. Album's not really a keeper, though.

COYOTE UGLY soundtrack, 2000 -- Give or take classics by Snap, EMF, and Chrlie Daniels (and Don Henley and INXS? nah, I don't think so), the best songs are the trio of flashdance stomps by Leann Rimes it opens with. Though I also like the goofy apparent boy-band number "Boom Boom Boom" by Rare Blend. I like pretty much any song with boom boom booms (and bum bums and bom boms -- see Trio, Jimmy Castor, Pat Travers, Paul Lekakis, etc.) in the title, I think. Also like the Euroschlock dance pop closer by Mary Griffin. I never heard of Rare Blend or Mary Griffin (or Tamara Walker, who does an okay country-ish number) before. Good album, overall.

SARAH BORGES -- Finally got this; a mixed bag. Sometimes rocking, sometimes very boring. Edd (or somebody), what are all the supposed pub-rock tracks, again? So far I've got "The Day We Met," "Open Up Your Back Door," "Diablito," and maybe "Lord Only Knows" marked as possibilities, though I could be completely wrong about those. Definitely can't stand her cover of "Blind Love" (much less remember who did it in the first place. In fact, I don't think I'd even realize it was a cover if my friend Pat, who runs a record store in Manayunk, Philly, didn't tell me it was. He also said somebody told him that her band sounds like NRBQ. Which sounds fair. In her more pub-rockabilly songs, she herself reminds me of Carlene Carter.)

TIM MCGRAW -- Finally got his new one, too. Not sure what I think of it yet. What are the great songs supposed to be? I'm pretty sure I heard at least one in the background, but didn't take note of which one it was. Plenty of okay ones, though. But the line in "Kristofferson" about how lines don't have to rhyme is all wrong--because, duh, it rhymes!

xhuxk, Sunday, 14 October 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago)

(And when I say who sings what Little Big Town song, I'm talking about who sings lead vocals. They do four-part harmonies pretty much all the time.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 14 October 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago)

And "A Place to Land" (the title track, left out of the list above) would count as "a song I like".

Here's what Jane Dark wrote about the single (which, if what he's saying is true, maybe be better than I thought) and Little Big Town last month on his blog:

perhaps we have seen the new Miranda Lambert as well: are you up to speed on Little Big Town? "Boondocks" sort of took folks by surprise in 2005, showing a reach beyond the conventional confines of contemporary country. But the final two singles from that album,The Road to Here, — "Good as Gone" and "A Little More You" — were even better, and each better than the last, with a delicate mix of back country changes and co-ed Nashville harmonies. Their latest single, "I'm With The Band," the lead from new album A Place to Land, is the best one yet, a song that the Elton John of Tumbleweed Connection, and the Skynrd of "Ballad of Curtis Loew," would have been delighted to have cowritten.

http://janedark.com/2007/09/bakers_halfdozen_the_unexpecte.html

xhuxk, Sunday, 14 October 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

Sarah Borges: compare her take on X's "Come Back to Me" with any of the slower but still funny and in-love-with-its-own-disaffection re homilies on how love and real emotion can make you whole, on Brinsley Schwarz's Nervous on the Road. Same feel. And in general, her band sounds like maybe the B-list Stiff Records house band, if Stiff had had one.

Lots of stuff this week. Amelia White--have we talked about her? She has two or three records out. She's another East Nashville singer-songwriter, and Black Doves, which came out last year but I'm just getting around to it, definitely shows the influence of Lucinda Williams in the phrasing and the offhand feel of the whole thing. But Amelia has a nice pop sense and knows how to write a hook and a bridge; the record can seem like a glorified demo, with some truly awful drum sounds you'd think someone would've axed. Still, a couple of good rockers including one called "Sleeping Poppy" which nicely Gene Clark-like. I like her way with music better than her way with words, I think; the title track is about the Iraq war and elsewhere she talks about how pushers and lowlifes are knockin' on her door, but I get the impression she wasn't asleep to begin with.
The Hackensaw Boys' Look Out! is fun. They play fast and one song is about how this guy is losing his girl, her father says she's not there but he knows she is. So he decides he'll buy her a black SUV and then sink it into the sea. One about how California is too cold and Portland, Oregon too far but the Blue Ridge Mountains are just right...they're from Charlottesville, Va. For this string-band shit, really good.
Flying Burrito Brothers' Live at the Avalon 1969. Two discs, remastered, they found it while toking up in the vast vaults of the Dead's vast archives under one of the Pyramids. A show where the Burritos open for the Dead, in April 1969. I'm a Parsons fan but don't listen to him any more, so this was interesting. The best things are the covers--"Mental Revenge" (Mel Tillis), "Undo the Right" (Johnny Bush), "She Doesn't Live Here Any More" (George Jones, '62). And they do a nice shuffle on "You Win Again." Also, two versions of "Hot Burrito #2," the song on Gilded Palace that in my opinion really does what Parsons' idolators say he did, marries country with psychedelic pop a la Todd Rundgren, only Todd hadn't quite done it yet. Maybe that's not what his clones and epigones say Gram did, but that's what I like about the stuff, mostly. Anyway, great taste in covers, what can you say, and he doesn't sing all that well but then who can match Johnny Bush let alone the Possum? And he definitely was a smart singer; you can hear him calculating in the versions of "Hot Burritos #2" and sometimes he decides to talk and sometimes he just sing. What I find interesting is the way Sneaky Pete's single-note screeching psychedelic steel matches the voice the way Buddy Emmons did Johnny Bush on those Stop recordings. Apart from a few details like the pot leaves on the Nudie suits, the money Gram had and the inability of Michael Clarke to play drums (but I find it charming and it works, somehow), straight country music. So he succeeded after all, and whatever else his idolators can say, he was one great songwriter who, you know, worked on his craft to make the things sing, as the '69 run-through--not quite worked out as finely as it would be three years later-- of "$1000 Wedding" demonstrates.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 14 October 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

I described Little Big Town w El Buckingham way upthread (he left them in the dust, not like drowning them out, but just quality of his and Mac's songs vs LBT's, and also stage presence, although they were decent backup singers. They sound okay sometimes on their own, but should never ever be in the same stage with any Macs, or illusions if similar power will vanish "outside the confines"--ha, no they took the affirmation times wartime subliminal misgivings of so many songs then (Ira of One Trick Pony in CMT interview on cover of "Nothin' But A Heartbreak": "Aw, ever'body else had a stiff in their video, we hadda do it too") to such an atmospheric given, that's when I started wishing for the return of countrypolyesterolitan, if not Kenny Rogers. (Instead, this will prob be my most alt/outcat/geezerific Top Ten ever, though I still mean to check out Miranda's latest--saw a good live clip of her and Jack Ingram doing "Concrete and Lead," and then there's that ton of Rimes vids I mentioned upthread, still gotta sort through that again) Good to know about that live Burritos. I never cared about any psych-country ambitions, if any (he described what he was going for as the Stones times Buck Owens, and some say he wrote "Wild Horse"--wish he'd recorded that with Emmylou--Grievous Angel is one of the most soulful-cosmic albums ever, but more in an Every Brother-and Sister way than anything Stonesy, though some nice sly Ronnie Van Zantude around the edges--and yeah, a smart singer, esp there, he just kinda slippeda around the narrative, bringing her farward--don't think she'd recorded before, except for that Pieces Of The Sky she disowned real quick--the live set they did is great too, and incl better version of J. Geils Band's "Cry One More Time" than on the relatively sedate GP album--live version of it, Sneaky Pete's steel innovates, before Lloyd Maines on Joe Ely's Live Shots.

dow, Monday, 15 October 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago)

Um, "Everly Brother-and-Sister" is what I meant, although "Every Brother-and-Sister" as working-together ideal also applies. (and "Wild Horses" of course. He sounded really creepy on the expanded re-re-reissue of Sweetheart of the Rodeo,though, with his McGuinn-mixed-down lead vocals reclaimed--between a sneer and a tear, Mr. Bad Vibes---but it's been a while since I heard that--International Submarine Band's Safe At Home was pretty good, with "Miller's Cave" especially--singin bout bones in caves suited him then--so glad he met Emmylou--! Still some creepy-blah stoned glee between songs on the live album, broadcast from Long Island late night Fm--an influence on Ryan Adams in sev ways, then)(but before he made donkey comments on World Cafe live, Ryan with Cardinal

dow, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry, power interruption--just to finish that last, re a live set on World Cafe, Ryan Adams and the Cardinals (who on other thangs posted here and there have reminded me more of Gram Parsons and the Fallen Angels live, although minus EmmyLou) managed a combination of Broken Arrow Crazy Horse-type lurch and American Beauty G.Dead-type tightness (popness)that really worked (haven't heard the studio set of this material, Cold Roses, though reviews weren't very enthusiastic)

dow, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

Wound up loving three songs on the new Tim McGraw album, liking a few more pretty well, and being able to tolerate most of the rest. Not convinced I'm not missing something in it, though; I swear upthread somebody called it the best album of the year, which I find totally perplexing -- seems less consistent than most of Tim's his last few to me, but who knows? Anyway, two of the best tracks, from my vantage point, are covers -- of Eddie Rabbit's (I guess) "Suspicions," which McGraw does as a totally jazzy, smooth-funked five-minute-plus '70s Atlanta Rhythm yacht-rock jam; lovely, and makes me wonder whether I should investigate Rabbit more. (He had the hit with it, right? If nothing else, he's one of the songwriters.) The other cover I love is the hardest-rocking song on the album, "Hazard"/"Ode To Billie Joe"/"Knoxville Girl"-style (except I think the victim is male not female) murder-mystery-by-the-waterline guitar-drama doomster "The River And Me," which sounded really familiar and I couldn't place but then I googled and remembered it was on an otherwise unjustly ignored Warren Brothers album I reviewed for the Voice a couple years ago. Third great cut is "I'm Workin," about working the nightshift and hoping nobody dies while you're doing it; somebody said on that Sasha Frere-Jones thread that McGraw was making a John Prine move on this new album; is this the cut they meant? (I don't know Prine much, to be honest, but it's the only one I can imagine being like him. Christgau gave it a "choice cut," I just noticed.) After that, I'd say "Nothin' To Die For" (about how being a matryr is not what it's cracked up to be), "I Need You" (Faith Hill duet where his lyrics start off mawkish but wifey's vocal cooks), "Comin' Home" (pretty in a Glen Campbell wannnabe way), maybe "Shotgun Rider" (nice metaphor for staying by somebody's side, in bed)...okay, there's plenty of decent stuff I guess. Lots of songs just go right past me, though. And "Kristoferson" either tries too hard or doesn't try hard enough, from its "Help Me Make It Through The Night" opening melody on down. What am I missing?

My old Warren Brothers review, fwiw:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0422,eddy2,53934,22.html

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 October 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago)

Sarah Borges halfway kicked in, too. At first I swore all her fast songs were kinda fun (more because of her band than her singing, which struck me as fairly generic and interchangeable) and all her slow songs were kinda dull, but eventually it sunk in that she might have something going on. Still like the most energetic stuff most -- "The Day We Met" rockabilly, "Stop and Think It Over" sub-Gore Gore Girls girlgroupabilly, "Open Up Your Back Door" bawdy barrelhouse come-on, the cool shuffle bounce of "Diablito" which moves real well despite Sarah's gospel affectations. But some of the slow stuff is not bad; at least in something like "Belle of the Bar" and maybe that waltzy X cover "Come Back To Me" (which at first I was convinced took all the personality out of a song that wasn't one of X's best to begin with) she gets the lounge-kitsch moodiness across in a way that's less irritating than when, say, Amy Winehouse tries it. Also don't hate "Modern Trick" despite it being sorry-for-self Suzanne Vega singer-songwriter sap about it being Saturday night and seeing the party lights and not being invited and when you do go to parties guys want to dance with you but not take you home. (Okay, potentially a great topic when Claudine Clark does it, but with Sarah I'm not really buying it -- does she go to parties or not? The girl really needs to make up her mind if you ask me. Sounds kinda sweet regardless though.) (And okay, maybe I'm confusing a couple of the slow ones? What's the one where the radio station static shows up in the middle and you can hear somebody from her band? That one's not bad.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 October 2007 12:51 (seventeen years ago)

My local country station has been playing Luke Bryan's "All My Friends Say" a lot, and it's standing out to me as a great song. xhuxk, I read what you said about Bryan back in July---how is the album holding up now? Is it overall worth my cash, or should I just stick with the single? Anyone else on Bryan?

Euler, Thursday, 18 October 2007 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

Stop and Think It Over" sub-Gore Gore Girls girlgroupabilly

originally done by the compulsive gamblers, recently redone by mary weiss (whose album was largely written/produced by compulsive gambler greg cartwright). mary's version is a lot more garagey than sarah's. naturally. sarah's is a bit more on key.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 18 October 2007 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, I got the Borges record and really loved "Stop and." Kept thinking, I've heard this before, I've heard this somewhere...and then finally realized it had been done by Mary Weiss, whose record I found completely blahsville and never listened to again. I saw Borges live, doing that song, and she nailed it then too. I like Greg Cartwright's songwriting.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 18 October 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

New Carrie Underwood album Carnival Ride due 10/23, can be streamed at CMT.com: http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/underwood__carrie/2073930/album.jhtml

Sounds pretty rockin', people.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 18 October 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago)

Oh man, "Last Name" is going to be a huge huge huge huge huge hit. It's a perfectly written funk-metal-country song, and Underwood sings the holy shit out of it.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 18 October 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

Anyone else on Luke Bryan?

I think he writes most of his own stuff--also he wrote that "Good Directions" song that Billy Currington had a #1 with a few months back.
I've only heard his album once through though, but it sounded pretty good.

mulla atari, Thursday, 18 October 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

Please stop linking to parody news items that are way too over the top to ever be believed. It's just a waste of -- wait, what? It's real? This god damned fucking story is real?

*jumps off building*

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 18 October 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, but is this for real??

CELEBRITIES TACKLE THE CHALLENGE OF THEIR CAREERS
IN THE NEW CMT SERIES “GONE COUNTRY”

NASHVILLE – October 18, 2007 – Known for pushing the limits of mainstream country music with the genre-bending Muzik Mafia, John Rich, of the hit country duo Big & Rich, takes on his biggest challenge yet in the new CMT series, GONE COUNTRY. Premiering in January 2008, this six-episode series takes seven established performers from every realm of the entertainment and music industries and immerses them in all things country for a chance to break out as the next big country superstar. Production is currently underway in Nashville.

The series features an eclectic cast of performers including:

· Bobby Brown – R&B singer, former member of New Edition

· Carnie Wilson – singer/songwriter, former member of Wilson Phillips and author

· Dee Snider – radio personality, lead singer Twisted Sister

· Diana DeGarmo – recording artist, Broadway actor and American Idol finalist, 2004

· Julio Iglesias Jr – pop singer

· Maureen McCormick – singer/actor, “The Brady Bunch”

· Sisqo – R&B singer, former member of the group Dru Hill

GONE COUNTRY uproots these seven musical celebrities and moves them into a Nashville mansion together to embark on a two-week adventure, hosted by singer/songwriter John Rich. Each celebrity will be paired up with some of Nashville's finest songwriters in an attempt to prepare them for a career in country music. In each episode, the cast competes against each other in challenges that will test them musically and physically to adapt to a country music lifestyle, both on and off the stage. At the end of the two weeks, the artist that is most prepared to impress a country audience, as determined by Rich, will record and release a song.

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 October 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

Prediction: DeGarmo wins

mulla atari, Thursday, 18 October 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago)

I wonder if Sisqo singing C&W at a club in Nashville will provoke a similar crowd reaction to that of a white guy in a suit & tie singing "The Thong Song" at amateur night at the Apollo.

mulla atari, Thursday, 18 October 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

Anyway, Euler, I'll need to pull that Luke Bryan album back out again; I haven't played it much since July. My guess is it's not bad, but also probably not one of the 30 or maybe even 40 best country albums of the year. (But then, it's a great year.)

By the way, not country -- not even from this country --- but have I mentioned that I kind of like "1973" by James Blunt, at least a little bit? It always reminds me of Al Stewart; with more of a dance beat, it could almost be the Pet Shop Boys. Plus he namedrops "I Can See Clearly Now." But what I don't get about the chorus ("As time goes by I will always be/in club with you back in 1973/singing here we go again"), is, what is "Here We Go Again"? That was way too early for Whitesnake, I know that. (Plus that pronoun was singular, not plural, right?)

xhuxk, Friday, 19 October 2007 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, thanks---that Luke Bryan song has stood out to me, but that's all I know of him.

Euler, Friday, 19 October 2007 02:50 (seventeen years ago)

But what I don't get about the chorus ("As time goes by I will always be/in club with you back in 1973/singing here we go again"), is, what is "Here We Go Again"? That was way too early for Whitesnake, I know that. (Plus that pronoun was singular, not plural, right?)

rhapsody lists several hundred songs called "here we go again," including a poco song from the (country-relevant) 1973 crazy eyes. or maybe james blunt is referring to one of his own songs.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 19 October 2007 05:24 (seventeen years ago)

And okay, so, can I talk about Modest Mouse here? It may or may not surprise people to learn (if they care at all) that I actually think their album that came out at the beginning of this year is pretty good. In fact, almost all the albums I've heard by them have sounded pretty good. (Though not as good as the album by their spinoff band Ugly Casanova a few years ago.) And they can do a decent backporch strumming folk-rhythm thing sometimes, which means they halfway qualify as semi-country once in a while (i.e., at the start of the new album's "Spitting Venom," though that one also inspired Lalena to ask me "Who is this? It's very indie. Sounds like Dinosaur Jr." Which I guess it does, sort of.)

Anyway, I was sort of surprised on that Sasha Frere-Jones thread when somebody singled out Modest Mouse (well, Isaac Brock) as big part of the reason indie rock is so bland and white and arhythmic these days -- like, saying he's the most influential indie rock singer of the decade or something; to me, these guys have actually seemed among the least modest and mousey and stiff of '00s indie stars. (I really hated their name when I first heard of them, but thankfully they did not live up to it.) I actually think they do rhythm pretty well, for the most part -- better than, say, Pavement ever did. Am I nuts?

And even if I can hardly ever tell what the words are supposed to add up to, their new album has lots of compact, memorable, catchy, interesting, bouncy songs -- often kind of funky, at least in mid'-80s sort of David Byrne or Peter Gabriel kind of way, but more palatable than those comparisons usually otherwise imply. Favorites are probably the single "Dashboard" (which I assume concerns listening to the car radio), "Fire It Up," "We've Got Everything," "Education." And "Parting of the Sensory" builds to a decently dense acapella jam part. The other band I'm realizing they remind me of a lot now is the Pixies, who I've always had mixed-to-annoyed feelings about, and sometimes (i.e., in album closer "Invisible") their forced and stilted Black Francis style franticness can get on my nerves -- like, it's trying too hard to sound "wild and crazy" or something. But even when they irritate me, they usually do it in a fairly lively way.

xhuxk, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:50 (seventeen years ago)

Frank Kogan seemed to hear a sort of rustic (if not country per se') thing going on in Ugly Casanova in his Voice review a few years ago, fwiw:

Ugly Casanova's Sharpen Your Teeth seems deliberately vague. He's dreaming along a back road, and the wind is rising. Each instrument is looking for an excuse to go its own way. A couple of singers rasp in the distance, sometimes to a pre-blues ring-shout type shuffle. You think you're relaxing along with the lazy beat; then you realize it's got you by the throat. Recombinant blues-rock shuffle, and it can be as compelling as anything by N.O.R.E. and Missy Elliott.

xhuxk, Friday, 19 October 2007 12:15 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, they(Mouse/Casanova) sort of remind me of the better lineups and albums of Pere Ubu--and that same vibe Frank describes also pertains, in a way, to the big gray sky biker ballads on Josie Cotton's Invasion of the B-Girls, theme songs from b-to-z-movies, which I just put on a Halloween mix for my friend, with a bunch of Roky songs(with the same vibe): "We Sell Soul," "Slip Inside This House," "The Wind And More," "Cold Night For Alligators," and so on. Yall!

dow, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago)

Ubu's more urban country moments, re the kind of soil in and around demolished buildings, backsteps by tiretracks,etc. (but not too far from convenience stores, emergency rooms, record stores)

dow, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago)

Favorite song on Tim McGraw's 1995 album All I Want is "Renegade," which seems to at least partially share a chord progression with the Stooges' "I Wanna Be Your Dog," just like Montgomery Gentry's "Hey Country" a few years later, though I guess it's possible they took the chords from Lynyrd Skynyrd's "The Needle and The Spoon" instead (assuming those are the same chords.) Oddly, my second favorite song on the McGraw album, "You Got The Wrong Man," has a certain pomp and drama that at least slightly reminds me of a different "Renegade" -- the one by Styx -- though its metaphor is more false-arrest than fugitive. It also sounds more like "Indian Outlaw" (which had its own pomp parts) than anything else on the album, and that reminds me that, like, say, Beck or Eminem (who also did a song called "Renegade," with Jay-Z), McGraw actually first hit with what seemed, at the time, like a novelty song. If I remember right, when Christgau reviewed the album with "Indian Outlaw" on it, he made a Chief Nock-a-homa joke, which was pretty funny (Tim's dad -- or stepdad maybe? -- was Tug, remember), and what's even weirder is that, in All I Want's biggest hit, the very cloying "I Like It, I Love It," Tim mentions not being able to see enough Braves games. (I used to hate the song; now I don't mind it that much -- if nothing else, at least it references "Chantilly Lace"; how many songs can you say that about? Which reminds me: Does anybody here know anything else by the Big Bopper? Was he any good? Because in "Chantilly Lace" he sounds like total dirty-old-man lech, with a real sense of humor about it all. Don't think I've ever heard another song by the guy, though.) Elsewise on All I Want, "The Great Divide" is an okay (if far from original) marital strife metaphor, and there's a chord change in "I Didn't Ask and She Didn't Say" that reminds me of a different Detroiter, namely Bob Seger in the early '80s Against The Wind era, and when Tim mentions those weekends up at Crystal Lake it reminds me of Bob going down to Fire Lake, and Tim also mentions Jackson Hole -- and I forget where that is, but didn't Springsteen mention it on The River or somewhere? And finally "She Never Lets It Go To Heart" is a prototype of Tim's potential-cuckold mode, a mode he's proven quite skilled at over the years, and for good reason maybe, since when you're in love with a beautiful woman, it's hard. Everybody wants her, everybody loves her, everybody wants to take your baby home. But you gotta have faith.

xhuxk, Monday, 22 October 2007 00:32 (seventeen years ago)

Also listening this week to these old-school hard-rocking semi-country-leaning bar-band dudes from Portland, Oregon, The Smokes, who seem to pull off a halfway decent Stooges via "When the Levee Breaks" (or at least "Bullet the Blue Sky") groove in "Sister", and who open their nine-songs-and-its-title-says-so album with an escape-to-California number called "Runnin' For the Coast"; other peaks are "Grand Hotel" and "It's All The Same." Singer is merely competent, as is the production, but with stuff like this sometimes competent is good enough:

http://www.myspace.com/thesmokesmusic

xhuxk, Monday, 22 October 2007 00:41 (seventeen years ago)

(Actually, they sort of remind of me of Feedtime sometimes, though I haven't heard Feedtime in about 15 years, so maybe I'm wrong. The chugginess and chunkiness factors outbalance the stodginess factor.)

xhuxk, Monday, 22 October 2007 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

One of my favorite Tim tracks was always "Please Remember Me," which also sounds like a great Seger homage on the chorus, the way he starts it by squeezing his voice so eloquently. (Think it was written by Rodney Crowell.)

dow, Monday, 22 October 2007 03:17 (seventeen years ago)

it can be as compelling as anything by N.O.R.E. and Missy Elliott.

And to prove this, I put Ugly Casanova on a mixtape right in front of "Nothin'" and "Get Ur Freak On" and... um, it isn't actually nearly as compelling as those two, but still, it's got a good sneaky, catch-yer-feet groove.

(I like "Dashboard Confessional," haven't heard the album.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 26 October 2007 05:53 (seventeen years ago)

(Mindslip typing booboo: The Modest Mouse song is just "Dashboard," not "Dashboard Confessional." Fortunately.)

This afternoon I heard the first two-thirds of Deana Carter's The Chain, which is covers of songs by people her dad did session work for, some of whom (don't remember exactly, but I think they include Dolly Parton, Jessi Colter, Paul Simon, George Jones, Willie Nelson, Lil Wayne, Akon) actually show up here in guest spots, as does her dad. Album starts with a tremendous, spare, totally engrossing version of "Crying," follows up with similarly strange arrangements of the other tracks, most of which, on first listen, puzzle me more than grab me. Deana's playing these deliberately pale keyboard sound layers unobtrusively in the back, little slabs of artiness, which I'm not usually against in her case (her "stylish" splashes of tonal color on The Story Of My Life were beautiful; she is incredibly touching going middlebrow), but this time through, other than "Crying," I'm just not connecting. They all sound good, but at a distance. And "distant" is about the opposite of what I think of when I think of Deana Carter.

This is after less than one listen, mind you.

Even if I'd loved these versions, I still would rather hear new Deana Carter songs, Deana Carter's own words.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 26 October 2007 06:18 (seventeen years ago)

(And I've got to stop with the Lil Wayne and Akon gags, already.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 26 October 2007 06:19 (seventeen years ago)

the Murphys' best melodies have usually been the ones they didn't write themselves

Don't think I've ever liked a melody they did write themselves; that's why I never could get into them, despite the force of the playing. If you're drawing on Clash and Pogues and Rancid and you don't have melodies, the deficiency is glaring. Even Japanese Dopkick girlfans Thug Murder had a few good melodies.

Back in the day - '62 or so - there was a Chad Mitchell Trio track where they combine "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" and "Johnny I Hardly Knew Ya," iirc implying in pious pre-song patter that the "Hardly Knew Ya" version was the real one (so that antiwar precedes war), though I wouldn't necessarily believe them.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 26 October 2007 13:54 (seventeen years ago)

Listening again to Deana Carter's The Chain; it came through at the end with a strong version of Neil Young's "Old Man," but my basic problem with the album remains: a kind of hovering hush in the background (I'd implied this was all done by keyboards, but it's general, some reverbed picking, or floating electric steel, or violins). I think this might have worked better had the songs been shorter, mood snippets rather than one long hush. Paul Simon's "The Boxer" was beautiful as it started but the beauty lost impact as the song stretched beyond four minutes, five minutes, six. I do kind of like the incongruity of hearing John Anderson's "Swinging" trying to quietly gain momentum.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 26 October 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

I have a million things to talk about (Deana Carter and Dropkick Murphys, sure why not, plus new Shooter Jennings and new Carrie Underwood and the Cicadas and yet more old Tim McGraw and Faith Hill's best-of and Mojo Presents Cigarettes and Alcohol and who knows what else), but this is turning out to be a busy and hectic weekend, so it might be a while before I get to all that stuff.) I do, though, want to correct a couple things I said in my last Little Big Town post: First, "Evangeline" is lead-sung by Kimberly Roads, not Karen Fairchild (according to the sheet I got from the band's publicist, anyway, though I sort of have trouble believing it), and second, the XTC song I compared "Lonely Enough" to is actually called "Dear God," not just "God," duh.

More later, maybe...

xhuxk, Saturday, 27 October 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, so I have a brief window of time now before we head out the door (Matos is in town and holding court). So. A few things:

Dropkick Murphys: Could Frank be right about them having no good melodies of their own? I honestly don't think he is, but surprisingly enough, I'm not ready right now to make a coherent case otherwise -- partly because (even though I'm the one that brought up the idea that their best tunes seem to tend to be covers) I haven't paid that close attention to which melodies they wrote and which ones they've borrowed. So: future research necessary. "The Dirty Glass" on Blackout (featuring Stephanie Dougherety on dunken duet vocals) (hence, conceptually sort of their version of the Pogues' "Fairy Tale of New York," except not about Christmas and okay, not as good) does come to mind, though. And God, there must be others, right? My favorite albums by them, at least in my head, are probably Sing Loud, Sing Proud; then Blackout; then Do Or Die; then The Warrior's Code. Which yeah, okay, are probably all more uneven than I tend to usually give them credit for. When blokes are this hearty, maybe I cut them a little bit of slack, I admit it. But still.

Deana Carter -- Yeah, I was playing her new covers collection a couple weeks ago before I shelved it, and it was pretty much drawing a blank. In fact, here are the notes so far on the post-it note on the cover of her CD: Track 1: OK. Track 3: OK. Track 4: OK. Track 10: OK. Track 11: ? Not bad. Track 12: OK. That's it. So, um, I guess the album wasn't exactly inspiring me in any particular way. And her previous album made my top 10 too, by the way. But I'm pretty sure this is another case of country-gal-competently-covers-the-most-obvious-classics-on-earth-and-I-really-have-trouble-giving-a-shit. Sort of like that Martina McBride album a couple years ago. So: Not OK.

Kim Kline -- 8-song mini-LP/maxi-EP/demo/whatver by LA local. Sometimes she does some okay Taylor Dayne style belting. Worth mentioning more because "No Fool" (sadly not on her myspace page) is a passable Fleetwood Mac rip. CD's not quite a keeper though (in fact, honestly, I didn't get through the thing) (and okay, she's not country per se but so what, but the first song on the new Carrie Underwood album sounds like Heart, so Kline is close enough by now):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=13984746

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago)

Er...actually, uh, "No Fool" turns out to be the first song on her myspace page. (And come to think of it, double duh, Little Big Town can count as country by sounding like Fleetwood Mac, which is why I decided Kline belonged here in the first place.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 00:15 (seventeen years ago)

dunken duet vocals

I mean dunken donut vocals. No...actually I mean drunken duet vocals.

Speaking of donuts (as in "every picture tells a story donut"), there are definitely donuts in one of the songs on the Cicadas album that just got reissued on Noble Rot Records after ten years (though if they are cicadas, shouldn't it have been after seven years instead, or is my entomology off? same kinda bug as locusts, right?). I'm not sure which song has the donuts though -- something around track 6 or 7 or 8, first line of the song I think. Anyway, it's a nice pub rock album -- I like "When Losers Rule The World" (he'll he king since he's the biggest loser of all) (plus the song sounds like Nick Lowe), "Blonde Ambition" (about changing hair color) (plus the song sounds like Dave Edmunds), the very kicking version of "Tobacco Road," the guitars at the end of "We Want Everything", "Our Little Town" (which is not as good as Paul Simon's "My Little Town" but still good and jangly), "Wish You Were Her" (which was written by T-Bone Burnett and Bono and you can sorta tell from its not-as-clever-as-it-thinks-it-is-ness -- well, you can tell T-Bone anyway -- so I kind of hated it at first then I changed my mind), "Nobody's Gonna Tear My Playhouse Down" (see also George Jones and Graham Parker I guess), and how the guitars in "Still Learning To Fly" rip off Link Wray. And -- here's the surprising thing -- this was a sort of one-off band put together at the time by Rodney Crowell, who I've never really found any use for before (including the used CD I bought earlier this year which I talked about somewhere upthread.) I don't really recognize the other guys in the band, but somebody else might.

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 00:43 (seventeen years ago)

Did a collegetown show preview on Murphys, something like,"What's the difference between a stereotype and an archetype? If you forgot, ask your professor, while you're both bellowing along with 'Kiss Me I'm Sh*tfaced,'which kicks cliche Irish rowdies over the moon. Since '96, Boston's folk-punk Dropkick Murphys have had their way with a yowl and a yarn and a testimony, epsecially the first. "It's all about living in tnhe moment and not taking your loved ones for granted", says DM's Al (Something, I'm typing from memory) You want noise with that? You got it!" Message to those thinking about attending, based on several over the top live shots on Youtube (Also, their video with footage from The Departed, which apparently they're in, looks good--anybody see that movie? Seemed to disappear pretty quickly, for Scorcese) If had room, would've mentioend vid, and songs like "Fairmont Avenue, " which earns its line, "I stepped into a vision," although may be "onto a vision," like Fairmont itself (Fairmont "Hill"? The noise factor again, on both counts, not that I'm not blind) Sho, Rodney (occasionally cranked it out too dry, too for money or artiness,as he's acknowledged, but also for inst, wrote that Tim McGraw classic I cited above, and also see "The Sorceress's Apprentice," though Blogger won't give exacto link, so you'd have to scroll slightly down past a certain "Postcard From Brussels": http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2006_03_archive.html

dow, Sunday, 28 October 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago)

xp Alvin Lee -- "Anytime U Want Me" and "Got A Lot Of Living To Do" on his new Rainman Records Saguitar count as Dave Edmunds/Ducks Deluxe-style pub rock too, I think. (The former more Elvis rockabilly mode; the latter more countrified Chuck Berry mode.) Didn't expect to like this album nearly as much as I do, either. Guitar figures and/or melodies in parts of "The Squeeze" and the gloomy "Blues Has Got a Hold on Me" seem to echo Alice Cooper's "Is It My Body" and Hot Chocolate/The Stories' "Brother Louie," too, and "The Rapper" is an actual rap over a ZZ-style boogie-metal-funk groove that almost works until Alvin starts to devolve his rapping into icky Rush "Roll The Bones" territory til the end (also, the electrobeatbox beats are more stiff than the guitars and hence come off extraneous). Good riff in "Only Here For the Ride," tthough, and closer "Rocking Rendevous" rock and rolls itself into a good healthy jam of a groove.

Marah -- I've heard people (Scott Seward once, anyway) call these Nick Hornby/Stephen King-beloved Philly regular-dudes pub rock before, and maybe they were once, but their new one, Angels of Destruction, due out in January on the justly much maligned Yep Roc label, is bland as all fuck. I guess they're supposed to have a late Replacements/solo Westerberg type appeal or something? I remember seeing them once in Philly, probably a decade or more ago, before anybody had ever heard of them, and if I remember right they covered Hank Jr's great "All My Rowdy Friends" and they weren't bad. Some people say they got worse a few years ago when they hired Oasis's producer and tried to sound Brit-pop, so maybe I should go back and check out the early stuff someday. Anyway, as far as this new one guys, I don't get it -- they don't even seem to have tunes for the most part, and the singer sounds barely awake. Also, there are two songs with the word "Angels" in the titles (first On A Passing Train, later Of Destruction), which is perhaps meant to be meaningful but I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. First and last listed tracks, "Coughing Up Blood" (which, um, mentions "angels of mercy" in its lyrics) and "Wilderness" (which after ending is followed by some okay Irish folk pennywhistles or something and then a shitty hidden bonus track) both have some energy, though, so it's not like these guys aren't capable of sounding alive. Maybe there are a couple other okay tracks somewhere, too, but I don't know if I'll have the patience to find them. (Also, notes on the promo CD refer to the band's "new sobriety, new members, and of course new songs." They could afford to sound a lot more drunk.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

Also, sounds like in the title track Marah are trying to go for some Bruce-style piano drama? And "Can't Take It With You" is some sort of kitsch attempt at old-timey ragtimey nostalgia. I don't know; there's a wee bit of roughness in the grain of the singer's voice I guess, but he just sounds so reserved. Maybe that's supposed to make him intense? Maybe Nick Hornby can come here and explain?

And Alvin Lee's album does have its moments of draggy blooze stodge ("Smoking Rope" for instance), so I'm not saying it's all perfect or anything.

Re Carrie Underwood, I decided that "Flat On the Floor", the wild-haired opening track of Carnival Ride, is actually more Cher (incl. direct rip from "Dark Lady" or "Gypsys Tramps and Thieves" in there somewhere) than Heart, the more I listen. I guess what make me think "Heart" was the "baby baby baby" Zep thing she goes into at one point, and ladies doing Zep always equals Heart in my book. The two other songs I'm loving so far are "Last Name" (which opens with a metal guitar riff and in which Carrie leaves some club with some guy at 3 A.M. and does stuff that her Mom would not be proud of her if she heard about it though I don't think Carrie ever spells out what) and "Get Out Of This Town" (just a really good escape from small town song -- I'm a sucker for those; even wrote a book chapter about them once -- very hair-metal.) Beyond that, though, lots of it seems to be coming up dry to me, and the apparently meaningful-message-oriented closer "Wheel of the World" appears to be a real stinker. "All-American Girl", about a teenage girl falling for the town football hero (and maybe other stuff I didn't notice yet) has possibilities. And I'm sure there are a few tracks that haven't come up in the changer yet that I'll end up liking. But so far, most of the slow ones are making me snooze, and I am hereby predicting that I won't like it as much as her debut CD, and it also probably won't sell as many copies.

Twiggy -- "Carries On" on recently reissued Donna Summer/Juergen Kopppers-produced / partly Bruce Sudano/Pete Bellote-penned 1979 Heaven In My Eyes: Discoteque album I never heard of before (Sepia Records) is better countrified '70-style California soft rock than anything I've noticed so far on Carrie's new album. And in general Twiggy does not sound nearly as anorexic as her physique might suggest. Also really like "Sugar Daddy", a sad lonesome one that sounds like Teena Marie in quiet-storm mode, and "U Bin Lyin" and "My Baby Don't Call" (which sound close enough to 1979 Donna Summer to count, even if Twiggy is obviously no Donna.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

Best country songs on conceptual Mojo promo (free with subscription I guess?) CD Cigarettes and Alcohol: "Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (The Cigarette)" by Tex Williams; "Drinkin' Wine Spo-Dee-O-Dee" by Jerry Lee Lewis. The rest is mostly pretty great, too. I'd forgotten how much I like "The Bottle" by Gil Scott-Heron, I'm surprised how New Orleans Mardi Gras "Drinkin' Whiskey" by Laurel Aitken sounds (wasn't he a ska guy?); I like the Dinah Washington track ("Smoke Gets in Your Eyes") better than the Nina Simone track ("Give Me A Pigfoot and a Bottle of Beer" -- by the way, did people really used to eat pig feet with beer? Serious question.) Worst track by far: "Four Cigarettes" by Malcolm Middleton ("one half of Arab Strap," Google is telling me.)

And okay, maybe "Just a Dream" on Carrie's LP has possibilities, too. (And "I Know You Won't" appears to be her adult-contemporary Celine melisma move.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago)

(Lots of typos in last few posts; sorry about that.)

(And looking back over the thread, it turns out that old Crowell album I didn't like had been an American Beat reissue, not something I'd purchased used.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago)

U Bin Lyin" and "My Baby Don't Call" (which sound close enough to 1979 Donna Summer to count

Actually closer to 1977 Donna Summer (as in the more spare and austere I Remember Yesterday or Once Upon A Time more than the rock hybrid of Bad Girls), come to think of it, if you want to quibble. And "U Bin Lyin" is actually called "U Bin Lyin 2007," which I gather makes it an updated remix of album opener "You've Been Lying" (that title should have bin a giveaway -- nobody except Slade spelled that bad in the '70s), though so far I haven't noticed that being detrimental (even though generally "updated" remixes of old disco tracks by present-day producers strike me as pointless.) (None of which has anything to do with country, obviously.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

I'm surprised how New Orleans Mardi Gras "Drinkin' Whiskey" by Laurel Aitken sounds (wasn't he a ska guy?);

Yes, and didn't ska develop in part from Jamaicans listening to New Orleans music...

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 October 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, the story is that Jamaicans heard New Orleans r&b through the radio static, so they played the rhythm backwards or something, and that is how ska was born. An urban myth, possibly--but a great one.

Back to country, some thoughts on the new Shooter Jennings album (which, as I briefly mentioned on the Shooter thread that John Darnielle started a few days ago, I like, though so far not as much as his previous two studio albums -- I've never heard his late '06 live one -- and I haven't noticed any songs as great as "4th of July" or "Daddy's Farm" or "Little White Lines" or "Hair of the Dog" on it yet): (1) Shooter seems to be talk-singing more and pretending he's actually able to sing less, which theoretically is probably a smart move, i.e., in the opening biker-rocker "This Ol Wheel" feat. Doug Kershaw, but his talking is not completely pulling me in, though it is reminding me that I also haven't heard the new album by Waffle House arestee Kid Rock yet; (2) Second song "Tangled Up Roses" seems to be at least partially built around a riff that reminds me of "Sweet Jane"; (3) I used to think "Walk Of Life" by Dire Straits was one of the lamest rock hits of the '80s, and Shooter has not fully managed to convince me otherwise with his cover version; (4) mariachi parts in the onomotopoetically train-rhythmed "Slow Train" feat. Oak Ridge Boys and the title track are certainly welcome; (5) "Higher"'s country swamp-funk is reminiscent of old country talk-singer Jerry Reed; (6) "Blood From A Stone" has some weird electronic stuff wafting through (which reminds me that that Alvin Lee rap song I mentioned a couple posts ago sort of reminded me of ZZ circa El Loco); (7) "She Lives in Color" has a mildly beautiful hippiefied melody to it appropriate of its title; (8) Closer "A Matter of Time"'s waltz for drinking men would undoubtedly sound good on a bar jukebox and (as John D pointed out) does contain an amusing "9 to 5" reference, specifically when Shooter refers to a nosebleed from being punched.

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, the funky opening riff and rhythm in Alvin Lee's "Rapper" has a lot of "Train Kept a Rollin'" in it, come to think of it. The song is much better when Alvin is not trying to rap than when he is. And his rapping would be better if he had more of Billy Gibbons's humor and personality. And when the synth beat takes over, the track pretty much falls apart.

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 October 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

Tim McGraw, Not A Moment Too Soon (1994): His breakthrough album (the self-titled debut, from a year before, had been a flop I think -- I've never heard it, never even seen it). And what I'm thinking is that "Indian Outlaw," whatever you think of its silly racial stereotyping, took country in a completely different and weird dance-prog direction, and nobody ever really picked up on it, Tim included, which I think is a shame. Maybe it was too audacious to be anything other than a dead end, or maybe people have trouble hearing "novelty" songs as "innovative" (even though lots of times innovation is what makes them novelties in the first place). Or something. I'm not saying Tim would have wound up better than he is if he had made "Indian Outlaw" the basis of his career, but I still kind of wish somebody else did. Anyway, the other song I always liked here was "Refried Dreams" (which is on the B-side of my "Indian Outlaw" 45), which helped kick off the just-as-stereoytpical trend of country guys going to Mexico in their songs (and, very tentatively, in their rhythms) and lazing the day away like all those friendly Mexicans having siestas all the time. Otherwise, you basically hear Tim playing the role of big country stars of the decade that came before: Opener "It Doesn't Get Any Countrier Than This" (where he tells his Mom about this girl he's skinny dipping and rolling in the hay with -- would Mom really want to know??) is lively Confederate Railroad barrelhouse bawdiness; "Give It To Me Strait" is upbeat Garth doing George; "40 Days And 40 Nights" (how long it's gonna rain now that she's gone) is a John Anderson-style faux blues, and they're all pretty good, though it's also obvious listening to this how much more thought is put into country albums in general in 2007 than 13 years ago. Otherwise, "Not A Moment Too Soon" has a "Missing You"/"Every Breath You Take" bassline without a memorable song attached, and "Don't Take The Girl" was a big sappy hit, though I still don't get why little Tim doesn't want his Dad to take the girl fishing with them, and that scene seems to somewhat diminish those girls with leukemia or whatever later.

xhuxk, Monday, 29 October 2007 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

did I miss the talk about the new Gary Allan? because some of that stuff is just really great and raw, and the rest is at least not anything less than pretty damn good

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 29 October 2007 05:32 (seventeen years ago)

What I wrote about it upthread:

Gary Allan album was sounding merely good at first, but as often happens with Gary Allan albums, is quickly inching toward greatness. Favorites so far are "She's So California" and the very powerchorded (especially at the beginning) blatant bid for the Bon Jovi/country crossover audience "Like It's A Bad Thing" (when people say you're crazy or whatever), which to my ears has more power than the more blatantly hard-rocking "Living Hard," about, uh, rolling like the Stones and looking like Dylan, whatever that means, and living hard on the road. "Half Of My Mistakes" is growing on me too, and I like the single "Watching Airplanes," about looking at the sky and trying to figure which plane contains the girl you just broke up with. There may be better tracks; those are just the ones that keep coming up via random play, or jumping out at me.
-- xhuxk, Saturday, 8 September 2007

(Between ["Drop in the Bucket" by Brooks & Dunn] and Gary Allan's "Like It's A Bad Thing," it's pretty clear that country has yet to start retreating on the let's-see-how-rock-we-can-get-away-with-being front.) So yeah: growing on me for sure.
-- xhuxk, Sunday, 9 September 2007

"Wrecking Ball" is another big rocker on the Gary Allan album, and "Living Hard," the more I hear it, rocks really hard (seems to take its riff from some '70s boogie classic I'm having trouble placing; it'll come to me, though.) Allan really seems to be aching for the rock audience now. And oh yeah, in "She's So California," he turns a couple lines into a hilariously blatant Tom Petty homage
-- xhuxk, Sunday, 9 September 2007

New Gary Allan turns out to have its share of mush ("We Touched the Sun," "Learning How To Bend," two or three or four other tracks), some of which will probably eventually prove itself as quality mush; I frequently do tend to underrate ballads early on. Still, looks like it's shaping up as another more-good-than-great album, but with a few great songs.
-- xhuxk, Monday, 10 September 2007

xhuxk, Monday, 29 October 2007 10:39 (seventeen years ago)

"Indian Outlaw," whatever you think of its silly racial stereotyping, took country in a completely different and weird dance-prog direction, and nobody ever really picked up on it

Unless "Wild West Show" by Big & Rich counts, maybe?

how much more thought is put into country albums in general in 2007 than 13 years ago

By this extremely unformed thought, I guess I mean overall songwriting craft, variety, production, constructing the album as a cohesive unit, revolving songs around artists' personalities, working more to avoid filling 80% of albums with tossed-off tracks that just take up space and will be immediately forgotten, etc. Not sure how much I can prove country albums are taking more care in these areas nowadays than in the early '90s, but it's sure a feeling I get. Maybe the gigantic success of Shania and Garth changed how things are done down there?

xhuxk, Monday, 29 October 2007 10:53 (seventeen years ago)

is denver a big country hub or something? while the red sox had john williams and james taylor sing the national anthem in world series games 1 and 2, the rockies invited carrie underwood and trisha yearwood for games 3 and 4. and lonestar did god bless america in game 4.

or do other teams just think country music might be the red sox's one weakness? the indians countered red sox ace josh beckett's second start in the AL championship series with an anthem by his ex-girlfriend, danielle peck. but the sox won that game, as well as both games in denver.

(for my money, old boston fogey james taylor did the best anthem of all of 'em.)

fact checking cuz, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago)

But, but, but... (from a press release):

The Dropkick Murphys played at Fenway Park Sunday night, right before Game 7 of the American League Championship Series - It was the 6th time in which the band has played at Fenway, before a game and what's the Red Sox record in those six games you ask? 6-0! The luck of the Irish is clearly on the Red Sox side. The band sang the National Anthem and then launched into fan favorites "Tessie" (the song of their 2004 World Series run) and Departed Theme/Jonathan Papelbon entrance music "Shipping Off To Boston" on a stage setup in center field right before the start of the game

xhuxk, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

my brother, who goes to many more red sox games than i do, what with his living in boston and all, says the dropkick murphys are easily the best fenway band, because they are the most rocking and rousing. i was there on thursday, and though i liked james taylor, his was not exactly the kind of rousing performance to stir up homeruns and 98-mph fastballs. (and, hey, maybe that's why neither team hit any homers that night.) the red sox have been trying for a long time to get neil diamond, whose "sweet caroline" is their unofficial theme song, to perform at a game, with no luck.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

(oh yeah, i wrote about Shooter's new album on Oct.9, pretty much what you said; also as well as depending too much on charm, which prob works better live, though I haven't heard live alb either, depends too often on arrangements over writing, and some of the arrangements sound stupid, when gets into the yeehaw bits, not that he really sounds into that) Didn't Alvin Lee make kind of a country(blues etc) album with (his onetime protege, or Alvin was kind of his unofficial sponsor, as they call it in rehab, only they weren't really in a program together)Mylon LeFevre, or Myron? Was a member of gospel-singing group the LeFevres, and supposedly had a great voice, and was marketed to crossover rock etc around the time of Delaney And Bonnie & Friends (who incl Duane Allman George Harrison etc), that whole hot roots thang. M. seemed to disappear pretty quick, but just wondering about him and Alvin, also maybe Alvin did some other sort of country in that sort-of-country early 70s nexus, or since?

dow, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

Porter Wagoner just died.

dow, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago)

john rich comes out in favor of fred thompson and against gay marriage.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago)

Launch Yahoo is playing Mandy Moore on Yahoo Pepsi Watchamacallit Exclusive turning "Umbrella" into a dirge, Mandy being a damp towel and dull mop and at the start feels it necessary to explain that though she doesn't listen too much to this music (pop music) there are sometimes superbly good songs (when is this woman going to stop compensating for the fact that they once made her do "Candy," which is a good song, for fuck's sake?)(actually because of all this I severely underrated her single "Nothing That You Are" when I reviewed it on jukebox: is smooth-seeming w/ subterranean bumps and she builds to anger while never raising her voice). But like, come on, I can name 11 (or is it 12) singles this year that are better than "Umbrella"; it's like "Umbrella" is the pop song this year that everyone is allowed to like. None of this has anything to do with country, I just don't feel like changing threads and then returning.

Xhuxk, the Deana alb is distinctive as a covers alb, definitely has its own identity; it's just not that good.

Decided that the Carrie Underwood has lots and lots of good songs but no great ones, and the good ones lose impact because there is just too much sound in the arrangement, too much accompaniment, too much double-tracked singing. This means the thing could be a grower once my ears adjust, but right now the tracks are having trouble lugging around their own weight. I actually like "Wheel Of The World" for its prettiness; the funny rockers - the one where she wakes up and doesn't even know the name of whoever it is she was with last night - she was with someone, she remembers through a haze - and then sees a new ring on her finger and realizes she's in Vegas and now doesn't even know what her own name is, and the one where the more guys she meets the more she loves her dog - these could have been good snappy rockers but again they're dragging around too much instrumentation. There's a nice melody but the words get in the way on the one where the dad wants a boy and gets a girl and she wraps him around her finger and grows up into a totally boring cliché whom everybody loves. The dead soldier home is affecting but not as good as the Dixies' "Travelin' Soldier," but this might be a keeper. "Get Out Of This Town" is a good wailing catchy pop song, might be the best on here. "Twisted" is pretty. There's more good stuff, which might reveal itself better on the radio than on CD, where everytmakes everything sounds too much the same.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

Dick Destiny comes out againstbombing Iranand for Pennsy Dutch shit jokes.

Gorge, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago)

The weird thing to me is how many reviews have singled out "Wrecking Ball" as the worst song on the Gary Allan album, and way beneath him, when it was close to the only song I found appealing on first listen.

Willman, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

You seriously listened to that whole record and only liked "Wrecking Ball"? Wow.

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago)

Oh my god I can't believe how much I like the new Little Big Town album.

Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 02:41 (seventeen years ago)

this year is going to go down as the year I fell back in love with country music.

Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

I don't love Gary the way I'm supposed to or want to. I hate to say it, but I wish he wrote fewer of his own songs these days. He has some good ideas as a writer but some seriously hackneyed ones, too.

Now, I do love the Little Big Town. And to be honest, they probably employ just as many cliches as Allan. But they tie their hackneyed stuff to undeniable hooks.

Willman, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:59 (seventeen years ago)

Agree Gary's got his hackneyed moments (some of which I detailed above); just not sure how that makes him any different from anybody else in this (or any other) genre...

"Only Here For the Ride" on the Alvin Lee album grew on me some more -- just sounds so darn chunky, yum. Also like the tuckered-out old-guy-still-endlessly-on-the-road gloom of "Motel Blues." And like Shooter, Alvin's got his own chugging train-rhythm boogie about trains, namely "Midnight Train."

Meanwhile, wanted to like these heavily boogiefied Edmonton, Albertans; the guitarist sounds good. But the rhythm section can't quite carry him, and (like hundreds of indie punks trying to pull off '70s rock before {which is what these guys sound like, even if they're not} -- Rye Coalition, Nashville Pussy, REO Speeddealer, honestly I don't even remember most of those bands' names anymore, but you get the idea), they really need a less so-what singer. They actually sound a lot less clumsy slowing to a crawl ("Rock & Roll is Down") than when they try to race at Motorhead tempos, which is sadly most of the time:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/fatdavecrimewave

xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 12:06 (seventeen years ago)

(The "country" part is that their cdbaby page refers to their alleged "thick & creamy southern rock/blues groove" and compares them to Skynyrd and ZZ Top, neither of whom they sound particularly like, to me.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 12:13 (seventeen years ago)

Also I'm not sure which songs on Gary Allan's new album (which I also agree is somewhat uneven) he did write. My favorites are probably "She's So California" and "Like It's a Bad Thing," then I guess "Watching Airplanes," "Wrecking Ball," and the seriously hackneyed "Living Hard". Who wrote those?

xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago)

What AMG says:

1 Watching Airplanes Beavers, Singleton 4:03
3 She's So California Allan, Hanna, Randall 3:21
4 Like It's a Bad Thing Hobley, Martin, Thrasher 3:23
7 Wrecking Ball Freed, Gattis 3:49
11 Living Hard Allan, Blackman, DiPiero 3:54

xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago)

xxxxk otm about 'she's so california,' that is one great song. i also really love 'trying to matter' (esp the smoking guitar work) and the payoff to 'half of my mistakes,' in addition to 'watching airplanes' which is a perfect opener and admirable
first-single.

i think carrie underwood is getting a raw deal because she made a good solid country music album instead of, i dunno, some amazing genre-busting psychedelic mindfuck. the songs are very solid and she sings the hell out of them. she's young yet, there's plenty of time for her to bust down the doors later.

my new favorite country song of the year is "Minas Piedras," a duet between Juanes and a singer named Calamaro; it's on the new Juanes album and it is beyond beautiful. i didn't realize what a great guitarist he is...he plays every guitar on the record, even the weepy pedal steel on this song.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago)

xpost

Haven't seen the new Alvin Lee record but it sounds by your description as more modern than the last I heard, In Tennessee.

Of it, I wrote:

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Alvin Lee used to be famous, but now he's unpopular like [Robert Kidney.] His new CD, In Tennessee, puts him together with Scotty Moore and what amounts to the Sun rhythm section. They're on board to play either slim-and-slam dancing tunes or rockabilly and rapid-fire blues jams tacked onto minute ravers harkening back to Lee's "Hold Me Tight."

Lee and company are ductile and pointed, though they deliver one or two five-minute selections too many. In Tennessee closes satisfyingly with "I'm Going Home." It doesn't collapse into clichés, Lee's calling card getting solid revivification from a much-less-is-a-way-lot-more treatment.
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The lo-fi'd version of "I'm Going Home" didn't last for me. The best material on that album sounded like "Going Back to Birmingham" which
was the only good song on one of the last old TYA records, "Positive Vibrations."

Lee's done a lot of country-fitting material, usually spread out over solo records no one can remember anymore. Country in the way Link Wray was country, only with a different guitar style, obviously.

Gorge, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

Decided, surprise surprise, that I initally overrated the more rocking songs and underrated the more mellow songs on Carrie Underwood's new album. I'm so predictable! Anyway, like Frank says, it's mostly all pretty good, but mostly not all pretty great, and yeah, the escape anthem "Get Out Of This Town" might well be the best track, though I've also been really liking "The More Boys I Meet" (...the more she like her dog, which therefore I can't help but now associate with the dog-is-man's-best-friend anthem "Broadside" on the new Ted Nugent album, though my favorite on that one is the one about saving buffalos. Also when Carrie talks about some guy with oversized pants and an oversized ego I keep thinking that Carrie threw him out til he gets some pants that fit, she just don't approve of his strange kind of wit.) Also, the melody of "Just A Dream" reminds me of "Come Undone" by Duran Duran (my favorite song by them.) And okay okay, "Wheel of the World" is not as awful as I gave it credit for.

Best country song on Cactus's Fully Unleashed: The Live Gigs Vol. II" is "Token Chokin'," easy.

xhuxk, Monday, 5 November 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago)

Growing on me on the Flynville Train album (which I'm still not convinced anybody else has actually heard): "Tell Mama," "Nowhere Than Somewhere." And the Rockpile approximation "Truckstop in the Sky" gets even better when you pay attention to the words (which concern how kids grow up loving trucks and eventually wreck them and wind up in heaven.)

So that album stays steady near the top of my year-end top ten, even as Aly & AJ and Trigger Renegade both loudly pass Miranda Lambert on the left.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

I'd like to hear Alvin Lee In Tennessee, based on Gorge's description. And speaking of him and Link Wray, a similar vocal sound (re Link's links to country, I like his cover of Tony Joe's "Backwoods Preacher Man"--you can sure tell it's Link, even though it's acoustic--that's on his Epic release, The Link Wray Rumble, one of my favorites of the 70s, or anytime) Also in that mode (sour but poignant vocals, "Ah remember yewww..."), is Blue Cheer's recent "Young Lions In Paradise," with female backup warbling on the chorus; like early 70s blue denim gospellish rock-country, should be on country radio now(or fairly recently) with Van Zant,etc.

dow, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

So are any of the rolling country regulars watching the Country Music Awards? (I thought Miranda Lambert looked kind of nervous, and her voice sounded not quite up to strength or something.)

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 8 November 2007 01:10 (seventeen years ago)

I forgot it was on! Just now finally found the station (it's ABC, right? I oughta know; I edited a three-page feature about it last week), just in time to catch Big N Rich doing "I Like It Loud" with a horn section. It rocked. Kid Rock seemed to like it.

Don't know how long I'll stick around watching this, though (reminds me too much of work.) Maybe I'll just keep the sound turned on with metal on in the background unless something looks interesting. Jason Michael Caroll sure does look like a girl with facial hair. And now Rodney Atkins is doing "These Are My People," which kicked harder on his album.

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 01:57 (seventeen years ago)

I actually dropped out already since I wasn't enjoying most of the performances (although at least they keep them coming without a lot of b.s. in between).

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 8 November 2007 02:05 (seventeen years ago)

(I did catch most of "These Are My People," which oddly I've seen before--odd because I hardly ever watch TV.)

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 8 November 2007 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

Carrie U bored me -- big yellow dress; big ballad; I headed into the kitchen and finished up the dishes.

Eagles sounded good, though I got the idea Henley's voice hasn't held up. Still gave me the idea that I should look around for a Wal-Mart. (Gorge complains that there aren't Wal-Marts where he is in Southern California, which is interesting -- makes me wonder how many more sales they may have missed out on. Though, by all accounts, they got plenty regardless.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 02:11 (seventeen years ago)

Brooks and Dunn, "God Must Be Busy" -- well sung, well meaning (war in the Middle East, twisters in Oklahoma, jobs lost to overseas), well I don't really care that much. George Strait clapped respectfully in the crowd. One of the dullest songs on their album, which hasn't done well saleswise so far. Maybe it would do better if they'd release one of the actually interesting songs on it as a single.

Jason Aldean, "Johnny Cash," sounds like Southern rock. Sounds nothing like Johnny Cash. Fine with me.

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

Sugarland look legitimately surprised, and very dorky, winning Vocal Duo of the Year. They seem like nice people. No mention that they used to be a Trio.

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

Martina McBride, "For These Times" (supposed Rick Santorum's daughter's tears tribute) w/ big all-African-American gospel choir: Not bad, actually. And Martina is very cute, and winds her waist well. She wants to know what love is. But I got the idea the choir was singing better than she was. And I wasn't really paying very close attention the words, so who knows. (I get the idea it's sort of the same theme as the Brooks & Dunn song -- These are hard times, but we can make it through with God's help.)

Keith Urban, John Waite soundalike "Everybody Needs Somebody" or whatever it's called: not enough guitar.

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 03:01 (seventeen years ago)

Geez country people, how have I missed this thread all this time? You are like a little awesome club inside a bigger, snobbier club.

Anyway: can we talk about Robert Earl Keen? I am afraid to mention him on the main page for fear of indie-bhangra-electro-dance-punk-rap retribution. Anyway, I have been really into him for the last week or so for some reason. Even "Merry Christmas From the Family", which used to annoy the shit out of me. Turns out that is a quality, quality song. Not to mention "So I Can Take My Rest", "Levelland", "Blow You Away", "Not a Drop of Rain", etc etc.

doctorfunktronic, Thursday, 8 November 2007 04:35 (seventeen years ago)

I liked Taylor Swift's poppy song on the award show and Brad Paisley with the marching band wasn't bad. Idolator.com live blogged the event.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 November 2007 06:03 (seventeen years ago)

I didn't like the Brad Paisley song too much, but I thought he was a good performer, so I came away impressed with him, although I wouldn't necessarily search out his music.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 8 November 2007 13:08 (seventeen years ago)

Kelly Pickler cried during her number. I might have cried, too, if my ear monitor had malfunctioned, fallen out and hung right above my left collarbone like a snail for the entire performance. Consequently, most of the camera work went to distance and angle shots.

John Waite was sitting beside Krauss for the entire thing.

The recent issue of Guitar Player has Paisley on the cover. The story is mostly about how he's fanatical about his gear and, therefore, his guitar tone. Fifth Gear being a good guitar album, this makes sense. Uses a Way Huge Aqua Puss, a pedal which is an analog delay. Way Huge went out of business over a decade ago and the stuff sells for ridiculous prices on the used market, which is what he can afford to play. Whether it sounds better than other things which mimic tape delay and slapback is hard to ascertain.

I'm somewhat persuaded to get the Taylor Swift LP.

Rascall Flatts with Jamie Foxx bombed badly. You could hear the guy singing flat -- his range wasn't up to the song, the performance of which ate it, anyway. I just couldn't get Foxx out of my head as the QB in the Oliver Stone movie about pro football doing the rap song about being Steamin' Willie Beamon. Someone should have hit him over the head with a club and dragged him off.

Kid Rock was fairly sloshed when he got the mike. Lots of tight smiles in the audience.

He's also heavily into Class A/Vox amplification which is kind of the opposite of what country used to be although that's certainly changed in the last few years. Now you see and hear a lot of Class A tone happening. Think British Invasion -- early Beatles/Stones.

Gorge, Thursday, 8 November 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago)

"He's also heavily into Class A/Vox..." would be Paisley, not Rock. Somehow the messager diced my upload.

Gorge, Thursday, 8 November 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

Jamie Rake asked me this question, which I can't answer because I've never seen Hee Haw:

earlier today I hit upon the notion - from only the Lord knows where in the circuitousness that is my thought process sometimes - that the eefing, that country/rural-based vocalizing that Jimmy Riddle made known nationally on Hee Haw (and on Joe Perkins' 1963 near-hit, "Little Eefin' Annie," which I know from mid-'70s K-Tel novelty records compilation Looney Tunes) gave some kind of culturally osmotic inspiration to human beat-boxing, especially that practiced by the late Darren Robinson of The Fat Boys and his equivalent in Connecticut rap contemporaries The Skinny Boys. I'm thinking especially of those deeply wheezy, gutteral sounds those beat-boxers made. Am I on to something, or am I 20+ years late in my observation (Riddle died in '82, about a year or so prior to The Disco Three/Fat Boys dropping their first single)? Just as there's a largely unacknowledged black American audience for commercial country music, were there black kids who might've grown up watching Hee Haw and later gravitated to hip-hop, adapting the eefing they learned from that TV show into something of their own? Apart from the lingually and labially frictive mimickry of drum machines, where did those early beat-boxers come up with those deep wheezy sounds?

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 November 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

Wow, I haven't thought about "eefing" for at least 30 years (and I doubt I ever thought about it 30 years ago, either; in fact, I guess I never knew it actually had a name, but the mention of it does stir up memories -- I know exactly what you're talking about; can even sort of picture it, and it's not like I was a huge Hee Haw fan growing up. Definitely watched it a few times, though, if nothing else was on.) At any rate, was it really all that different from scat-singing? Though I can for sure see how a human-beatbox connection makes sense.

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago)

Wow:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_8NOxoZ3rZc

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

Didn't they used to frequently play the spoons on Hee Haw, too? And if so, how does "Spoonman" by Soundgarden fit into the equation?

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago)

>>Am I on to something
>>those deep wheezy sounds?

No. The old-timey Smith household watched Hee-Haw. This manner of expression isn't the intellectual property of Hee-Haw, Jimmy Riddle or whomever. It's something anyone who has a voice can come up with.

Christ, I used to see stuff like this on Captain Kangaroo, the Gene London show and other Saturday morning entertainments. And I'm sure they learned it elsewhere when they were younger.

Gorge, Thursday, 8 November 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago)

That said, spoons-playing on What's My Line, fwiw:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BUUGOD8yR1Q

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

I think you're going to have to go back to when the spoon was invented to determine when playing spoons was invented. That would seem to be well before video, film and YouTube. How sad. Young people won't be able to see the first spoon-player, ever, all over the world from their lap or desktop.

Gorge, Thursday, 8 November 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

Next, making farting noises with your hand and armpit. Who do you think invented it on TV in the sixties and wuz those Fat and Skinny Boys watching?

Gorge, Thursday, 8 November 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

Interestingly, for CMA, the guy who was doing all the hot guitar fills for the Eagles was the hack they hired to replace Don Felder, not Joe Walsh.

Gorge, Thursday, 8 November 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago)

OTM Gorge on over-mystifaction of ye folke process. There are enough real mysteries in it, without cranking up the fog machine. As for Robert Earl Keen, I always thought of him as more of a songwriter than a singer (or otherwise impressive performer), but did notice that we always sold a toyboatload of his albums after a show, which is isn't always the case, even with your more flamboyant types. But recent reviews indcated that he was trying to extend the range of his live sets, past the sardonic, prime-of-Buffett-times-Zevon ditties like "The Party Never Stops" and the xpost "Merry Christmas From The Family," and getting loud requests from drunks as a result. Hard to balance the humor and other, once you're known more for the former.

dow, Thursday, 8 November 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

Xhuxk, am I right in assuming that <i>Billboard</i> is counting each sale of the Eagles alb as two units since it's a double-LP (a policy of <i>Billboard</i>'s that I've never liked)? It still outsells the Britney* and is still impressive since it's not widely available.

*I was going to say "unfortunately," since I love (though in places don't like) the Britney album, but I haven't heard the Eagles alb so I shouldn't be prejudiced. I mean, I'm not expecting anything even half as good as "Life In The Fast Lane" or "Lyin' Eyes" or "New Kid In Town," but what if it's really good?

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 November 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago)

But Jamie's not asking about the "folk process," but rather whether you think the Fat Boys etc. took something from Hee Haw. No need to be sourpusses.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 November 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago)

"Don Henley's voice hasn't held up"?! When did it ever? Although, when their tracks worked, the shitty, thin, strained, wasted vocal sound (tired and lazy and professionally observant and auto-self-pitying all at once) was part of the point, if not ultimately *the* point (life in the cheese factory of "Hotel California,""Life In The Fast Lane, " but was that also true of On The Border, which was their most consistenlty listenable, or was its appeal irrelevant to their truly significant work? Ditto the tracks on The Long Run where they kind of let Walsh do his thing? Subjects For Further Study, as xgau would say--in other words, I better shut up and go listen)

dow, Thursday, 8 November 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

doctorfunktronic, we're the real snobs around here.

Have never heard Robert Earl Keen but some friends of mine like him (say he writes drinking songs for Texans), saw him when he played here in Denver last month.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 November 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

Xhuxk, am I right in assuming that <i>Billboard</i> is counting each sale of the Eagles alb as two units since it's a double-LP

Well, I'm away from work this week, so I'm out of the loop as far as the whole, weird Eagles/Britney story goes. But basically, what you're describing, as I understand it, is an R.I.A.A. policy, not a SoundScan policy. And since SoundScan started tracking sales in 1991, it's what determines chart placements. (And store exclusives -- not just Wal-Mart ones, but, say, Hot Topic or Starbucks ones, or albums sold only from a band's website -- are not generally eligible for the main album chart). But the Eagles are a unique case, obviously. So at this point, I'm not really sure how to interpret their numbers. I'll find out soon enough, though, I'm sure.

As for Robert Earl Keen, I've tried him, but never connected. I know Texans who swear by him, though.

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago)

iCande ("eye candy" I assume) aren't country but rather girl poppers who include hip-hop and r&b but not the typical synthesis in that the bubblegum isn't subdued for the sake of the rhythm and blues. The reason I mention them here is that their CDBaby page identifies their writers/producers (Kirsti Manna and Bill Warner) as Nashville people who've contributed stuff to Big & Rich and Blake Shelton as well as doing the Simlish version of Cowboy Troy's "I Play Chicken With The Train." Excellent pedigree there.

You can download some of their tracks for free from their MySpace.

xpost - sorry for blaming Billboard about the double-counting.

(My understanding is that on Tuesday Billboard shifted policy in general in regard to counting store exclusives, not just as a one-shot for Wal-Mart/Eagles. It was just that the boffo sales of the album forced their hand. And I think they made the right choice, but I have a feeling they're now going to have to figure out how to do it.)

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 November 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

Well, one of the biggest problems is that stores like Wal-Mart frequently don't report sales to SoundScan (say, with their previous Garth Brooks exclusives.) So I'm not sure how that's going to be rectified, either. (And what I said about band websites may have been misleading, since sometimes digital sales from band's websites, say, do get reported. But frequently, in those cases, the album is also digitally available on iTunes.) At any rate, across the board, this is suddenly becoming a major issue. Time will tell how it's going to play out.

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 November 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

Well, to truly gauge popularity they will need to use my nifty new Illegal Download Counter, which they can do for a fee.

(Meaning that the way things are it's probably getting harder and harder to get a handle on popularity, with no real simple measures.)

[xpost, it turns out iCande disabled the download mechanism on their MySpace.]

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 November 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

I'd think Wal-mart's motivation is to use the Eagles to get people into their shitty places where they will buy many other things, carts of poisoned and defective slave labor goods made in China, millions of pounds of hamburger due to be recalled for E. coli contamination, etc.

However, Wal-mart was pretty much made persona non grata in southern California during the earlier part of this decade. So the last time I actually paid for something from Wal-mart, it was one of the bonus discs promoted off the last Def Leppard covers LP. I had to phone my friend in PA, tell him to get a copy and I'd reimburse him. But I'm not going to do that for the Eagles.

That the Eagles would be in bed with such a repellent part of business America isn't too surprising. It's where a big chunk of money is. I'm sure it's where a lot of their middle class/lower class and white trash audience shops. But it's not obviously where ALL their audience shops.

And since their signature tunes -- "Hotel California" and "Life In the Fast Lane" are pretty much about places which DON'T have Wal-mart -- are even adamantly anti-Wal-mart -- because of the drubbing the company has taken in the media and in documentaries over the last five years, it is interesting in an idiosyncratic way.

Oddly, when I was a kid you could buy an Eagles album in every record store in Schuylkill County, even in Pine Grove before the small mom-and-pop variety store burned down. Now it's much more difficult to get an Eagles album, thirty some years on in the so-called bestest country in die Welt.

Gorge, Thursday, 8 November 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

The reviews I've seen (which agree that new album is kinda okayish overall, with some moderately enjoyable tracks[true even in Rolling Stone, by Fricke, who rarely writes leads, and even more rarely is so lukewarm], and xgau gave it a middling Honorable Mention) all mention irony of Eagles decrying corporate greed and Bush while sucking up to America's Store, although aren't they selling it as a download also?

dow, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry, I don't know how I got the delusion that xgau gives it an Hon Mention, now I don't see it on November Con Guide (on
http://music.msn/music/onsumerguide2 )

dow, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago)

except of course it's
http://music.msn.com/music/consumerguide2 Typing is fun!

dow, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago)

Buy some 'ludes and the Eagles new CD at Wal-Mart Special!

Not only can you get the Eagles new CD, if you're quick you can buy up some Aqua Dots, the toy beads set that turns to GHB in your stomach.

Even better use: Invite that girl who has been denying your advances over for a listening party. Put a couple beads in her drink while she's listening to the Eagles in your living room. Soon she'll be as pliant as putty!

Aqua Dots, one of the number one Christmas toys in the nation -- made by slave labor in China. Buy 'em with The Eagles' pop rock, not yet poisonous or made by slave labor.

"Last month, Wal-Mart named its 12 top toy picks for this holiday season. On the list were Spider-Man action figures, Elmo, a game based on “Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader” and various other toys. And, unfortunately, the “Aqua Dots Super Studio,” which it said combines “creativity and crafting to create multiple designs — just add water!” --Wall Street Journal

You'll be feeling real creative upon listening to the Eagles and popping Aqua Dots. Actually, the trash who shop at Wal-Mart get what they deserve. Aqua Dots probably turn to GHB because Wal-Mart asked its Chinese vendors to lower the price so much they wound up substituting a toxic but really cheap chemical that converts in the stomach as a finish.

Aqua Dots a Wal-Mart top pick

Gorge, Thursday, 8 November 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago)

Listening to new Little Big Town on the AOL Listening party.

Don't like it as much as some of you do, but I like it. Gets better as it goes on. Girls better than boys.

That's happening throughout the world of music. Girls better than boys. Why? When I was young, girls sucked.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

Listened to the new Van Zant. This was last week, actually, but this is what I remember.

Guitar sound and general rockingness = good
Melodies = pretty good
Singing = adequate
Lyrics = pandering bullshit, not even imaginative for pandering bullshit, just bullshit

Of course, I don't really pay attention to lyrics on first run throughs, really, so maybe it was just that the pandering bullshit jumped out at me. A lot of it jumped out at me.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago)

Haven't heard their latest, but looks like a continuation, with pandering up a notch (they used to have *some* okay lyrics, or so it seemed). Oh, you said you'd never seen "Hee-Haw"; followed the "Laugh-In" template (same producers, I think), only without an equivalent to go-go Goldie, alas, a lack of a lass in that dept., but had some purty 'uns more stationary and clothed. Double entrendres: optimistic (looking up git it)

dow, Friday, 9 November 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

Listening to the Hives album, which they're streamin in full on their MySpace, good, rousing, though not virulent. (Don't know why I would think lack of virulence is a fault, and who would expect the Hives to be virulent anyway?) Not country at all, just mentioning it because I recall Xhuxk saying something nice about it somewhere (I thought it was on the thread, but apparently not). Also agree with Xhuxk about Aly & A.J. passing Miranda noisily on the left. Have yet to hear Trigger Renegade, who I'm also assuming are not country.

So that's the latest not-country roundup.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 11 November 2007 03:44 (seventeen years ago)

Just heard Bobbie Nelson's Audiobiography, and so far I'm totally smitten. All solo piano, except the first and last tracks have Willie on vocal and guitar, with Jody Payne on second guitar. She does a ballad(standards: Willie, Hoagy, etc), then a boogie-woogie (or related);so far it's the ballads that really get me ("Stardust"!), the way her momentum doesn't disturb the lyricism, but adds to it, so she doesn't really need the up-tempo stuff, but they're good too (thus from the parlor to the front room in Silver Ceety), and "Down Yonder" is a much of a trip as I'd hoped, having read that it was one of Jerry Lee's original inspirations (gotta hear his muse, Del Wood, but I've never found one of her records in playable shape, better check those newfangled CDs)

dow, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 00:39 (seventeen years ago)

In chart news, Britney's album's sales crashed 70% in its second week, which is too bad, but this is more than made up for by the fact that it rose from third to second on my personal ongoing albums list, passing Miranda Lambert on the left, on the right, and in the center. Back on Billboard, right behind Britney is Taylor Swift, who after 55 weeks has finally entered the top ten, at number 8, which - I'm sure this is no coincidence - is exactly where she was on my Pazz 'n' Jack ballots last year. Not sure whether I prefer the Britney or the Taylor, indicating that so far this year is worse than last year in the Albums That I've Paid Attention To category. But then, as of this time last year I hadn't yet heard the Taylor Swift or my number nine alb, Cham's Ghetto Story.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

As for the highly regarded Kogan Country Charts for 2007, um, my favorite country song is Miley Cyrus's "See You Again" which isn't a single, its nonsingleness normally indicating my continuing alienation from country radio, except that even if it were a single it wouldn't get onto country radio, so its nonsingle status merely underscores my growing dislike of the Radio Disney top 50. However, my second favorite country song of the year, Travis Tritt's "Should've Listened," also isn't a single, and my favorite 11 songs on the Brooks & Dunn album aren't singles, and my second and third favorites on the Taylor Swift album weren't singles (my first favorite was, but that was last year), and my second least favorite is a single, and my first five or sixth favorites on the Miranda Lambert aren't yet singles, and... oh this is getting depressing. Anyway, my connection to the country popularity pulse, which was never strong, is weaker than ever this year, and I'm not sure I've got anything like a top ten country single list for this year. How about this?

Taylor Swift "Teardrops On My Guitar"
LeAnn Rimes "Nothin' Better To Do"
Reba McEntire f. Kelly Clarkson "Because Of You"
Gretchen Wilson "One Of The Boys"
Gretchen Wilson f. John Rich "Come To Bed"
Eric Church "Sinners Like Me"
Rissi Palmer "Country Girl"
Tim McGraw "Last Dollar (Fly Away)"
Carrie Underwood "So Small"
Toby Keith "High Maintenance Woman"

I guess that's ten. (Counts: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Yup.) In defense of country music, I haven't been listening to country radio much, so I don't have much idea what's out there. I hope to make up for that deficiency this week.

The Miley Cyrus song is as good as I say it is, however, and it's as country as anything on the actual country charts.

(Wait, has Miranda Lambert's "Gunpowder and Lead" just been released as a single, or is its jump to forty-nine (49) spins nationally entirely owing to her singing it on that awards show? I'm guessing the latter, or it'd be getting more than 49 spins.)

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago)

And here is my country albums list, which, even though there are only seven so far, isn't half as depressing, since everything I've listed belongs there (I'm probably underrating the Brooks & Dunn but have only heard it a couple of times so far; have only heard the Little Big Town once, streamed on AOL, and wasn't as impressed as you all but it would probably be listworthy if needed, and if I had to I could probably round out with various Ingrams and Underwoods and even Carrolls, but I probably won't have to if my exploration in the next month-and-a-half of the Ross Broadway branch of the Denver Public Library proves aesthetically satisfying).

1. Miranda Lambert Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
2. Ashley Monroe Satisfied [which hasn't been released yet and for all I know may never be]
3. Travis Tritt The Storm
4. Gretchen Wilson One Of The Boys
5. John Anderson Easy Money
6. Brooks & Dunn Cowboy Town
7. Blake Shelton Pure BS

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago)

Finally got around to this year's Cowboy Troy; if I hadn't already read Xhuxk's and Chris's disappointment I'd have been disappointed with it myself, but as it was, I was pleasantly surprised. Problem is that Troy himself sounds tepid and tired in comparison to his great buoyancy on "Rollin' (Ballad Of Big & Rich)," which is still by far the best thing to ever have his name attached to it. He was helped by the buoyancy of that song, it's true, but he himself was rollin' with the waves (is why they call him Cowbuoy Troy), whereas this time he's just laying back with what I suppose could be called a dark, drawling razor's edge delivery except that there's nothing dark or razor's edge about the guy. It works on a couple of tracks especially the new Barn Dance remix of "I Play Chicken With The Train" which is sort of banjo techno, which means the banjo seems ominous and his menace seems menacing.

I like the nu-metal tracks as tracks, even though Troy's voice isn't up to 'em. Needs someone like whoever it was who guest-shouted the raps on Evanescence's "Bring Me To Life." The pretty singing part on "How Can You Hate Me?" takes the song over, and despite the nongripping vocals on "Buffalo Stampede" and "Lock Me Up" I respond to the basic crunch of 'em. I'm still a sucker for the power-chord-'n'-fiddle shtick, I guess. Also like the brief Diamond Princess-type brat-rap of Angela Hacker on "Lock Me Up."

But I'm not hearing energy in the Xhuxk-recommended "Blackneck Boogie." Got a good funking bottom but it needs more top from the man with the microphone. "Man With The Microphone" has nice phlegmy singing, and "Paranoid Like Me" does well with its restraints, being paranoid an' all.

So that's a good half of the album with at least something to grab me, and I don't think there's anything that's not worth hearing, but I'm not likely to be relistening much except for the "Train" remix.

I understand how Chris was feeling upthread, committing himself to a performer everyone's sneered at and then having the performer fail him. But also, once you feel committed, it's natural to notice every flaw. I'm sure when the new Ashlee comes out (February?) I'll be grimacing at every gaucheness and each cliché. (Last I heard she's gonna call it Coloring Outside The Lines. Jeesh.)(Though what I'm really worried about is with Timbo on the dials she'll just subdue herself into the current R&B template, which I can't imagine will suit her.)

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

Also finally gave a listen to Brad Paisley's 5th Gear, which is pleasant just like everything else he does. Got some guitar-pickin' speed rips that are supposed to have the automotive zip that the album title promises, but the only track that really gets moving for me is the all-instrumental "Throttleneck." It samples and seems based on an old operatic track about which I know nothing except that the chords are the same gorgeous ones that Shadow Morton used on the Shangri-Las "Remember (Walkin' In The Sand)" and "You Can Never Go Home Anymore."

So, do any of you know what that song is he's sampling? My promo has no credits. (The song is credited to Paisley and co-instrumentalists Frank Rogers and Ben Sesar.)

I like the Carrie Underwood duet, "Oh Love," which is a quiet storm ballad that has nothing to do with the rest of the album; also like the words to "Some Mistakes" (some are worth making twice) and I smiled at "Online" ("Even on a slow day I can have a three-way/Chat with two-women at the same time"). Mainly gaped with disbelief at "Ticks," whose goofy pickup line is bizarre but just not that funny, and as for romance... well, it's not meant as romance, is it? Just goofy. Got my attention the first few times I heard it but... (Obviously, thousands of radio listeners were enthralled, damned if I know why.)

Hard to dislike the guy (though yawn yawn yawn to "I'm Still A Guy" where he makes a point of holding fishing poles and not getting a manicure), but as usual he rarely takes it beyond pleasantness.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago)

Frank, what is it about the Miley Cyrus song that strikes you as country? I've been listening to Miley/Hannah a lot... enough that I've probably broken some kind of statutory-whatever law in several states... because of just attending (and enjoying) one of her shows. But it never would have occurred to me that any of her songs could or should be on country radio... even though, as I wrote, she does have the SPEAKING voice of a middle-aged Tennessee barmaid.

I just read somewhere that "Gunpowder and Lead" is Miranda's "next" single, though it apparently isn't official yet. It seems to me to be something that has very little chance of success, just because it's in the same vein as "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend," which they put out as a single before the album came out, and then, when it flopped, denied was ever intended as the single and claimed "Famous in a Small Town" was the OFFICIAL first single. Anyway, "Kerosene" was the one single of hers that made the top 10, so I suppose someone is thinking of "Gunpowder" is being in that (hit) vein instead of in the "Crazy" (flop) vein.

Willman, Saturday, 17 November 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

"Dry Town" would be a better single.

mulla atari, Saturday, 17 November 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago)

So, though lots of these could easily shift around, my top country albums list for 2007 would probably look something like this right now:

1. Little Big Town – A Place To Land (Equity Music Group)
2. (Various) – Motel Lovers: Southern Soul From The Chitlin’ Circuit (Trikont)
3. Flynnville Train – Flynnville Train (Show Dog Nashville)
4. Taylor Swift – Taylor Swift (Big Machine ’06)
5. Miranda Lambert – Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (Columbia)
6. Jack Ingram – This Is It (Big Machine)
7. The Bellamy Brothers – Jesus Is Coming (Curb)
8. Blake Shelton – Pure B.S, (Warner Bros)
9. Black Angel – O’California (Outsiders Record Company)
10. Toby Keith -- Big Dog Daddy (Show Dog Nashville)

11. Black Angel – O’Santabarbara (Outsiders Record Company)
12. The Greencards – Viridian (Dualtone)
13. Jimmie Lee - Layin’ Down The Law (Leeco EP)
14. Bomshel – Bomshel (Curb unreleased promo)
15. Cole Deggs & The Lonesome – Cole Deggs & The Lonesome (Columbia)
16. Brooks & Dunn – Cowboy Town (Arista Nashville)
17. Sarah Johns – Big Love In A Small Town (BA)
18. Shooter Jennings – The Wolf (Universal Records South)
19. Halfway To Hazard – Halfway To Hazard (Stylesonic/Mercury)
20. Big Al Downing – XM Satellite Radio Live (Crazy Music)

21. Richard Thompson – Sweet Warrior (Shout! Factory)
22. Glenn Stewart – Glenn Stewart (Floodzone Ent. Group)
23. Laidlaw – The Foam Box Sessions (Yessir)
24. Gretchen Wilson – One Of The Boys (Epic)
25. John Waite – Downtown—Journey Of A Heart (No Brakes/Rounder)
26. Travis Tritt – The Storm (Category 5)
27. John Anderson – Easy Money (Warner Bros./Raybaw)
28. Big & Rich – Between Raising Hell And Amazing Grace (Warner Bros,)
29. Brad Paisley – 5th Gear (Arista Nashville)
30. Rissi Palmer - Rissi Palmer (1720 Entertainment)

31. Carrie Underwood – Carnival Ride (Arista)
32. Tim McGraw – Let It Go (Curb)
33. Gary Allan – Living Hard (MCA Nashville)
34. Alvin Lee -- Saguitar (Rainman)
35. Lantana – Unbridled (BGM)
36. Sunny Sweeney – Heartbreaker’s Hall Of Fame (Big Machine)
37. Pete Berwick – Ain’t No Train Outta Nashville (Shotgun)
38. Van Zant – My Kind Of Country (Columbia)
39. Phil Vassar – Prayer Of A Common Man (Universal Records South unreleased promo version)
40. Confederate Railroad – Cheap Thrills (Shanachie)

A few of them (especially the soul compilation at #2, and Waite and Thompson and both Lees) might be marginally eligible, genrewise. I didn't include Gogol Bordello; if I did, they'd probably make the top 20.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 00:30 (seventeen years ago)

Frank, what is it about the Miley Cyrus song that strikes you as country?

The reverb, the chord pattern, the melody. "See You Again" only, not any of her other songs, which at the most (like "Who Says") will have a guitar twang but nothing else country. But "See You Again" uses template number 8 from the rockabilly songwriting handbook, though more Cash or Orbison or Chris Isaak than Elvis or Jerry Lee. Embarrassingly, I can't name any Cash-Orbison-Isaak songs in particular that follow that pattern (though I'll bet they exist), since I don't own any of their records, but for instance go to Jace Everett's MySpace and listen to his single "Bad Things" from last year and listen to him singing "I wanna do bad things with you" and then go listen to Miley singing "Now I can't wait to see you again," and they're exactly the same except that Miley is in A minor and Jace is in E minor.

By the way, "See You Again" is now the first song posted on Miley's MySpace, and therefore I declare it a single no matter what Disney decides. She cowrote it with Antonina Armato and Tim James, the duo who are working with Aly & A.J. and who once worked with Hoku, neither of whom have done anything country. They also wrote "East Northumberland High" my third favorite Miley song. My second favorite, "Start All Over," was written by Scott Cutler, Fefe Dobson, Anne Preven, two of whom I'd never heard of, one of whom I have.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago)

Under influences on his MySpace, Everett puts "Mom and Dad, Jamesons Irish Whiskey, Christianity, American Spirit Cigarettes, Spinal Tap, existentialism, Buddhism, Right wing nut bars, Left wing flakes, the sins of my past, the hopes for my future, and of course Taylor Swift...."

Not sure if he's being sarcastic or not about the Swift, who I think is wonderful but doesn't seem to be Everett's type. Also, I gather that he was dumped by Sony, since under label he puts "Unencumbered by the tryanny of capitalism; broke!" and he says it's an "indie." Seems like a cool guy, even if his voice is a bit cookie cutter. Both "Bad Things" and "That's The Kind Of Love I'm In" were in my country top twenty last year.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:00 (seventeen years ago)

I can't justify the Gogol Bordello as country, even if the lead Gogol is from the old country, but it'd make my list for sure (might even make my Pazz & Jop).

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:03 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, if I can influde Motel Lovers (which is a compilation of recent, but not current music), I probably should have included 2007 best-of CDs by Sara Evans, Faith Hill, Travis Tritt, and Alan Jackson in that top 40 albums list (and maybe the brand new one by Keith Urban, which begins with a good cover of Steve Forbert's "Romeo's Tune", and ends with three songs with the words "everything," "Somebody" or "everybody" in their titles that keep seeming interchangeable to me even though it's possible only two of them sound like John Waite I can just never remember which two), but I didn't.

Trigger Renegade, who I'm also assuming are not country

Right - they're New Wave of British Heavy Metal. From California!

In chart news, Britney's album's sales crashed 70% in its second week, which is too bad

But which is actually not too rare anymore -- not for albums that have real big opening weeks, anyway.

So, do any of you know what that song is [Brad Paisley is] sampling [in 'Throttleneck']? My promo has no credits

My copy has credits, but doesn't seem to list a sampled song, as far as I can tell.

"Crazy Ex-Girlfriend," which they put out as a single before the album came out, and then, when it flopped, denied was ever intended as the single and claimed "Famous in a Small Town" was the OFFICIAL first single.

This seems to be happening with record labels more and more -- in r&b as well as c&w. It's horseshit.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

Radio Disney finally sees sense:

Number 26 on the KDIS playlist for the last seven days is Taylor Swift's "Teardrops On My Guitar."

OK, Mr. Big Machine Record Company, that means you can release "Should've Said No" as a single. And then "A Place In This World." OK?

Billy Ray Cyrus's "Ready, Set, Don't Go" is number 24 on Disney. Carrie Underwood's "Ever Ever After" is number 10.

And speaking of girls-night-out songs (which we were speaking of in December 2005), Miley Cyrus's "(GNO) Girls Night Out" certainly qualifies. "'Cause it's a girls night, it's all right without you/I'm gonna stay out and play out without you/You better hold tight, this girl's night's without you." I won't claim that it qualifies as country. But it's pretty damn catchy.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

My top 20 country singles list (no doubt omitting plenty of singles I didn't think of, including some Frank named especially ones by Gretchen Wilson, since I haven't consistently kept my list up to date) would probably look something like this:

1. Toby Keith – “High Maintenance Woman”
2. Taylor Swift – “Our Song”
3. Pat Green - "Wayback Texas"
4. Rissi Palmer - "Country Girl"
5. Dierks Bentley - "Free And Easy (Down the Road I Go)"
6. Miranda Lambert – “Famous In A Small Town”
7. Gary Allan – “Watching Airplanes”
8. Big & Rich - "Between Raisin' Hell and Amazing Grace"
9. Sarah Johns - "The One In The Middle"
10. Eric Church - "Guys Like Me"

11. Kelly Pickler – “Things That Never Cross A Man’s Mind”
12. Kenny Chesney Featuring George Strait – “Shiftwork”
13. Cole Deggs and the Lonesome – “I Got More”
14. Brad Paisley – “Ticks”
15. Taylor Swift – "Teardrops On My Guitar"
16. Eric Church – "Sinners Like Me"
17. Montgomery Gentry - "What Do Ya Think About That"
18. Rodney Atkins - "These Are My People"
19. Van Zant - "Goes Down Easy"
20. Jack Ingram – “Measure Of A Man”

If Sugarland's version of "Irreplaceable" was a single, it'd probably make the top 10, but I'm pretty sure it's not. (Maybe it will be a ringle someday.)

As for Miley Cyrus, she is on country radio, isn't she? (In a duet with her dad.) I haven't really kept up were her and/or Hannah Montana this year, but I really like the (non-country, as far as I can tell) "Start All Over," which Frank burned for me on one of his legendary mix CDs.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 02:09 (seventeen years ago)

Jimmy Draper says:

"'see you again' is the hanna's/miley's #1 song seller on itunes, fyi"

So I'm counting it as a single.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

See You Again" is now the first song posted on Miley's MySpace, and therefore I declare it a single no matter what

By this definition, "One Beer" by Black Angel qualifies for country singles list. So I'll probably bump Allan's "Watching Airplanes" from the top ten.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 02:45 (seventeen years ago)

Or the Big Rich song. Or Eric Church song. Or something.

By the way, nobody's got a Nashville Scene ballot yet, have they? (Because I know I haven't.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 02:51 (seventeen years ago)

In the category "country albums I probably won't get around to playing much until I have to turn my ballot in, given their seasonal nature," you would so far find these:

Taylor Swift Sounds of The Season (NBC/Big Season EP, sold exclusively through Target stores)

(Various) Hear Something Country (Sony/BMG Nashville -- artist list goes Carrie Underwood, Brad Paisley, Alan Jackson, Kenny Chesney, Kellie Pickler, Blaine Larsen, Keith Anderson, Terri Clark, Montgomery Gentry, Phil Vassar, Sara Evans, Brooks & Dunn, Martina McBride, Johnny Cash, so somewhat promising)

Merle Haggard Hag's Christmas (Capitol/EMI --okay, a reissue of a 1973 album, so it wouldn't qualify anyway, but it has "If We Make It Through December" on it, which I bet will count for a lot.)

Also definitely won't get through all four discs and 110 tracks of this Diesel & Dust Art of the Field Recording box set before the year if not decade is over, but "Disc 4: Instrumental and Dance" sure sounds cool so far, especially the tracks where people hoot and holler while chasing foxes, not to mention "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" by Buford Boyd.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 03:03 (seventeen years ago)

Love "Girls Night Out"... As for "See You Again," I'm trying to hear the rockabilly influence, but I mostly hear Giorgio Moroder.

My 7-year-old is going back and forth between favoring Hannah and Taylor. But despite our doing to the Hannah concert last week, Taylor has taken over, because of the Christmas album. (We haven't even played the new tracks on the deluxe edition yet.) Weird hearing your little girl sing the greatest hits of George Michael and Eartha Kitt... that is, "Last Christmas" and "Santa Baby."

Willman, Sunday, 18 November 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, the reason that "Teardrops on My Guitar" is getting airplay on Disney, most likely, is that the song is being officially pushed at top 40 now. It has been "most added" at CHR for two weeks in a row, per R&R. I'm told that the label is not making a big deal out of this because they don't want to piss off country radio. But I think they're gonna find out eventually, guys!

"Dry Town" would make a great Lambert single, but I'm sure it's considered in that deadly too country for country category.

Willman, Sunday, 18 November 2007 04:07 (seventeen years ago)

xpost xhuxx "Diesel & Dust" is a great name for something--mebbe the next, post-Big & Rich stage of duovolution? Or the song/the album/the book/the movie! (the video game?) But the label you mean is Dust-To-Digital http://www.dust-digital.com Also the name for a process which "major labels" seem hailbent on reversing, as far as they and their artists are concerned.

dow, Sunday, 18 November 2007 05:50 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't gotten a Nashville Scene ballot yet. I think right now that Charlie Louvin's record might actually be my number-one record. Something unassuming about that one I return to more these days. Hear there's a live Louvin, cut at a Cincinnati record store, but haven't gotten it yet.

Catching up here, I finally listened to Deana Carter's covers record, The Chain. Nice guitar work! She does good on Dolly's "Love Is Like a Butterfly" and actually slowing down "On the Road Again" sorta works for me. But her voice isn't rich enough for this stuff and anyway, why she covers "The Weight" is beyond me, maybe her dad told her it used to mean something back in the lysergic comedown era.

Heard most of Dolly Parton's upcoming Backwoods Barbie. The title alone is evidence that someone is really thinking hard about concept...ha ha. She seems too old to be comparing herself to Barbie but what do I know about what it's like being Dolly? Anyway, one pretty good Celtic-faux tune called "Only Dreamin'" and a couple featuring some venerable Nashville session guys (Lloyd Green, Pig Robbins) that are ringers for '70s Astro-Turf-sawdust-floor country, one allows as how Dolly will always hate roses because love has flown. One super-optimistic one called "Better Get to Livin' " that is about Dolly's secret of life, and the title track. And she covers "She Drives Me Crazy" and "Tracks of My Tears." Overall, pretty not-something, but what do you expect at this point? And OK, I interviewed Dolly and found her earthy, direct, little-girlish, sharp as a tack.

As for the Americana festival a couple weeks ago, I missed some of it, but did see Amelia White, who struck me as pretty good, a kind of more pop, rocking version of Lucinda Williams with better hooks and a nicely streamlined delivery. The awards show was a loong 3 hours, and it was nice to see Lyle Lovett play a little and Rodney Crowell did too, with Emmylou Harris. Nothing tremendously exciting. Jim Dickinson got an award and told a funny story about coming to Nashville the first time and meeting Shelby Singleton, but then Amy LaVere veered off in the general direction of the pitch on her song "Pointless Drinking," which just has to be one of the most...pointless songs ever written or recorded.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 18 November 2007 13:51 (seventeen years ago)

"Diesel & Dust" is a great name for something

Like...maybe a Midnight Oil album! (Which is what it is. I must have gotten some brain-wires crossed -- a few other typos showed up in yeterday's posts, too, but that's definitely the most entertaining one.)

By the way, Frank mentioned that he hadn't heard Trigger Renegade (whose album will easily make my overall non-country top 10, near the top of the list); despite they're not being remotely country, that is still possible, see below--best song (and title track to their album) is "Destroy Your Mind":

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=7433916

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago)

Also:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/triggerrenegade

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago)

Muddle-headed article about how those of you who are putting Crazy Ex-Girlfriend on your best of lists hate Carrie Underwood

The Malec Minute: Why Miranda Lambert is Overrated

Jim Malec | November 14th, 2007

When I sat down to write this column, I had every intention of avoiding the “O” word. But in this case, there’s no way around it.

Not after two-plus years of listening to the traditionalists and the fringe anoint Miranda Lambert the genre’s savior. Not after watching a string of tacky, out-of-control performances, including her appearance on last week’s CMA Awards. And definitely not after watching Stylus magazine name Crazy Ex-Girlfriend the second best album of 2007–in all genres.

Miranda Lambert is overrated, and her rabid popularity is as musically unfounded as, oh, I don’t know, let’s go with Carrie Underwood’s.

Yeah, I said it. Did everyone else forget that Lambert’s big break also came from a TV talent competition? Lambert and Underwood sit at two opposite ends of the same continuum, and are so adored by their fans for the same basic reason–what these two artists represent is far more important than the quality of the music they make.

Underwood’s fans, for example, will often be heard saying things like, “I like Carrie because she’s new Country. She’s not that old-style twangy stuff. I hate that twangy stuff.” But Lambert’s fans will often be heard saying things like, “I like Miranda because she’s not that new, pop-Country crap. I hate that fluffy, pop-Country crap.”

And therein lies Lambert’s big draw. She’s (definitely) not that “fluffy, pop-country crap”. Whereas Underwood, the small-town sorority girl/girl next door/everywoman, represents the young, pop-based movement of the genre, the movement that says, “this ain’t your daddy’s country,” Lambert represents the rebel; she’s the outlaw, the bad girl. It’s trendy and cool to like Miranda Lambert because she falls outside the boundaries of mainstream, and because she stands as a monument against the Underwood-esque artists who are so derided, by indie snobs, for supposedly lacking talent and artistry.

For those who believe that contemporary Country music exists in a perverted form, that it’s been hijacked from its rightful owners and heirs by a group of rock ‘n roll hooligans who have no business singing in the same genre as Merle Haggard or His Majesty Cash, Lambert is as much a symbol as an artist. She’s the chosen one, who has come to prove that “real” country music still exists.

See, there’s a brotherhood among traditionalists, elitists, and the like—they revel in the relative obscurity of their favorite artists, and they take solace in the idea that their favorite artists are shunned from radio because they “aren’t commercial enough”, aren’t willing to “sell out”, or are just too damn artistically brilliant to be appreciated by the lower levels of the music society–all the sheeple who will flock to whatever cookie-cutter product the evil major label empires are promoting this week.

And I have no problem with that. Everyone deserves the right to define themselves by the artists of their choosing. I do, however, have a problem with the undue amount of praise awarded to Lambert, and, specifically, to her songwriting. I have a problem with it because I think those who praise her so profusely, especially my fellow critics, are looking for reasons to love her. Because without artists like Lambert they would have no example to use when so harshly judging less traditional, or less edgy, artists (who they reject, out-of-hand, as less artistically credible).

So they build Lambert up, and they try their hardest to convince their readership that she’s the second coming.

But she’s not. Oh, don’t get me wrong–she’s good. She’s damn good. She might even be great. But we don’t know that yet, because she’s only released two albums–two albums that show two very different artists–and to call her great before she’s proven herself to be so is just as irresponsible as six million people shelling out fifteen bucks for a copy of Some Hearts

Kerosene was a solid record which featured truly excellent songwriting. “Mama, I’m Alright”, “What About Georgia” and “Me And Charlie Talkin’” all make use of specific, concrete imagery and sharp, poignant storytelling, while songs like “There’s A Wall” and “Love Your Memory”, while not necessarily brilliant or groundbreaking in any sense, are still both tightly constructed melodically and focused lyrically.

And Kerosene shows the complicated emotional conflict of a young woman striking out on her own; there is sensitivity and fear evident her her lyrics and her voice, and even when she shows her temper (on the title track), it plays more as cute than violent, because we see this woman in the full context of the human condition.

But there’s a sharp movement away from almost all of these attributes on her sophomore effort Crazy-Ex Girlfriend, a record that comes off as artistically stale after the energy of Kerosene, and which, I think, raises the question of whether Lambert will be able to consistently meet the standard she set with her debut.

Dispense from Crazy Ex the three songs not written by Lambert (three of the best, in my opinion)—“Dry Town”, “Getting Ready”, and “Easy From Now On”—and we’re left with eight originals. Two of those eight (“Gunpowder and Lead” and “Crazy Ex-Girlfriend”) are aggressive, violent, and pander directly to Lambert’s newly-constructed, and ironically commercial, bad-girl image.

Restraint, however, is a much more difficult achievement in songwriting than unfiltered abrasiveness, and both “Gunpowder” and “Crazy” come off as self-indulgent and one dimensional. There is anger, maybe hatred, but there is no complication, and the emotional undertone of these songs lacks sophistication—these songs are about only the action that they detail. But who cares “what little girls are made of” if we don’t care about little girls? Lambert gives us an outpouring of emotion but never any reason to sympathize with her characters, and the situations in these songs are so unrealistic and unflattering, respectively, that we either can’t see ourselves in the narrator’s place, or wouldn’t want to.

Lambert corrects this in “Famous In A Small Town” and “Desperation” which both demonstrate excellent control of tone; but elsewhere the album is riddled with cliché lines like, “You promised the truth and you told lies,” (from “Love Letters”), and “He took my heat and he broke my soul,” (from “Down”).

Those are the kinds of lyrics that litter internet songwriting message boards, composed by soccer moms and high-school juniors who dream of being “discovered”. Those are the kinds of lyrics that anybody can write—anybody—because they don’t rely on a fresh perspective or vivid, resonating imagery. Those are the kinds of lyrics that we might hear from a contestant on a TV talent comp…oh…wait.

And Lambert has yet to master the craft of the hook. Many of the songs on Crazy Ex dissolve into an abstract and anti-climactic statement or phrase…especially troubling since a song’s hook is not only the thing that makes us remember and sing along, but also the culmination of the lyrical narrative (one of the fundamental aspects of most people’s definition of Country music). The hook is what the lyric works towards and supports, and to be effective it must draw on the verses to, ultimately, make the song’s “point”. Without a solid hook, we feel like we’ve read a novel only to discover that the final chapter is missing.

And that’s where Lambert’s writing all too often leaves us. When she sings, “I guess I should’ve been more like her” (“More Like Her”) it’s clear that she’s sad, and we can put the events of the story into some kind of literal context, but we don’t really know what the story is about at a deeper level.

Is there emotion behind all of these songs? Yep, you bet, and Lambert often sings the hell out of them. And does the record tap into better lyrics then the ones I’ve pulled out here as examples? Of course. But not often. Not often enough, at least, to justify the boat-loads of superlative praise the album has earned; not often enough, at least, to disregard the fact that half of Lambert’s catalog is decidedly lackluster.

Many artists release an excellent debut–but great artists release excellent albums consistently. And great albums are always–always–made up of great songs…songs that would be great if forced to stand on their own; songs that would be great if sung by someone else; songs that would be great if sung fifty years before, or fifty years after. And are we really willing to say that about Lambert’s songs? I’m not. And does her music really come anywhere close to that of her oft-cited heroes? No. Not yet, anyway. And to claim otherwise is to put style over substance, to say that because she walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, she must be a duck. To claim otherwise is to say that because she talks about Merle, and sometimes sounds like Merle, that she deserves to be spoken of in the same breath as Merle. And she doesn’t. Not yet.

(slightly edited to reduce extreme length)

mulla atari, Sunday, 18 November 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

Mistakingly neglected to include this on my top country albums of the year list; it'd probably boot Black Angel from the top 10 (and I'd keep Toby Keith in there):

(Various) – Schultze Gets The Blues (Normal/Filmkombinat)

Also, Kenny Chesney – Just Who I Am: Poets & Pirates (BNA/Sony BMG Nashville) would almost definitely belong in at least the lower reaches of the Top 40.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago)

couple other things I've been listening to lately:

Amanda Shaw - Pretty Runs Out (Rounder, 2008!; yeah, it comes out in January so I don't have decide for a whole year whether it belongs in a year-end top 10 like her 2004 I'm Not A Bubble Gum Pop Princess, which made my Nasvhille Scene country Top 10 a few years ago) - Sweet-voiced New Orleans cajun-fiddle-music teenager who doesn't mind trying out catchy new wave bubblegum (album-opening title cut, about how even if you're pretty now you probably won't always be pretty), goth (closer "Easy On Your Way Out," an eerie Nina Hagen sort of thing with spacious pop-Zeppelin parts and a Celtic-like break in the middle), and Nasvhille style country-pop ("I Don't Want to Be Your Friend") (plus she even joyfully covered songs by the Ramones and Clash on that earlier album), and whose square dance/barn dance/hornpipe/jig/reel/whatevers (i.e., "McGee's Medley", "Reels: The Gaspe Reel/Sam's Slammer/Imogen's Ridge") rock regardless. Plus I think I hear a pinch of Natalie Maines (Stevie Nicks? Tiffany, at least?) in her vocal in "Garden of Eden," which has a title that would have put it in my second book if she'd put it out several years ago. She'd been primed to be a Disney teen-pop star, and decided otherwise -- but she seems to have no interest in being a boring roots purist either. Anyway, an really nifty album. Here's her website:

http://www.amandashaw.com/AmandaShaw/Welcome.html

Tumbleweed Junction 100 Mi. Of Hard Dirt Road (Junction, 2005) Wanderlustful and decently rhythmic Arizona country-rockers; talked about a 2006 album by them upthread somewhere, and this previous one is just as good, though like lots of such self-released records it would probably kick harder with a bigger production budget. "Deep Morning Blue" has a funky swing underneath that reminds me of "Hush" by Deep Purple; "The Circle" is some lovely Marshall Tucker style Southern rock; also like the ones about growing up on Skynyrd, living your life like a tumbleweed, and how "you've got an unnecessary attitude so don't take it out on me" (the last one partly because the word "unnecessary" makes it sound like one of the most polite insults ever):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=107512789

Pittsburgh Slim "Girls Kiss Girls" (Island Def Jam, 2007) Nothing to do with country, except um, he's a white kid. And this is supposedly a hit on youtube. I don't like it much. Had hopes since I guess he's from Pittsburgh, plus opening new wave disco twerp synth burbling tease you into thinking this is maybe going to be a novelty worthy of the Bloodhound Gang singing about mammals on the Discovery Channel, but he doesn't have any Bloodhound Gang worthy jokes to go with his dirty mind, which isn't dirty in any particularly original (or even all that dirty) way.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

Amanda Shaw on myspace (oh yeah, that song "Chirmolito" is real catchy, too):

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=272787729

Weather Channel (!?) documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk2lce5USCI

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

Thought I had possibly underrated the Greencards on my Top 40 country album list a few posts above, but today I've been playing it to see if it would belong in my country top 10, and I'm deciding that, if anything, I overrated it. Most of it's kinda meh, though there are a couple songs I still really like.

Tentative country reissues list for this year:

1. Charlie Rich – The Essential (Epic/Legacy reissue)
2. John Anderson – 2 (American Beat reissue)
3. John Anderson – John Anderson (American Beat reissue)
4. Jethro Tull – The Best Of Acoustic (Capitol/EMI reissue)
5. (Various) – Mojo Presents Cigarettes And Alchohol (Mojo promo reissue)
6. Sara Evans – Greatest Hits (RCA reissue)
7. Joy Of Cooking – Back To Your Heart (terrygarthwaite.com reissue)
8. Tommy Conwell And the Young Rumblers – Rumble/Guitar Trouble (American Beat reissue)
9. Faith Hill – The Hits (Warner Bros. reissue)
10. Chris Kenner – Land of 1000 Dances (Collectors’ Choice Music reissue)
11. Alan Jackson – 16 Biggest Hits (Arista Nasvhille Legacy reissue)
12. Travis Tritt – The Very Best Of (Rhino/Warner Bros. reissue)

That's a working list. Maybe Tull and Conwell and Kenner shouldn't be eligible for genre reasons (or Cigs and Alchohol, since less than a plurality of it truly counts as country); maybe Evans and Hill and Jackson and Tritt aren't eligible since the music on them isn't old enough (doesn't Nashville Scene use the 5 years or older rule for reissues? I forget -- if not, the live radio Big Al Downing album, which was recorded in 2004, could qualify); Keith Urban's best-of and Merle Haggard's Xmas reissue and that Field Recordings box set may or may not have shots depending on what I decide; I doubt I'll want to vote for John Anderson twice; etc.

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 20:06 (seventeen years ago)

Also, I could probably get away with counting either of these as country reissues, if I really wanted to. Do other people have ground rules about borderline cases like these? I feel mine change year to year, depending on whichever lists needs the albums most:

(Various) – Motel Lovers: Southern Soul From The
(Various) – Schultze Gets The Blues (Normal/Filmkombinat)

And this one would make my country reissue for sure if didn't technically come out in 2005; maybe I should decide to cheat and include it anyway, since it takes that long for German imports to get here:

(Various) – Dirty Laundry: The Soul Of Black Country (Trikont ’05 reissue)

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago)

oops, (Various) – Motel Lovers: Southern Soul From The Chitlin’ Circuit (Trikont) (obviously)

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

They'll have to take away my credentials as a Rolling Country Threads completist, since I didn't bother finishing that Jim Malec article.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

Listening to the Sara Evans hits album. I still love "Suds In The Bucket," about a level-headed dutiful Miss who lifts her skirt and dances away from her clothes line, lighting out for fun with a man from the motor trade (or something), the song being a good match for the subject matter, steady and demure but then kicking up its heels as smoothly and easily as running a brush through its hair - just about perfect (more so than "Perfect," which is just OK). Also suds and buckets are a nice little sexual metaphor, if you want them to be.

But I'm not getting nearly enough lift from the rest of these songs. Her voice is warm and controlled but the singing kind of just sits there for me, and when the voice rises in passion there's no lilt rising with it. I don't know. Haven't heard her that much, haven't heard most of these in their original context, and maybe this isn't that good a selection, but I had the exact same feeling about Real Fine Place after I got it out of the library last year.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago)

Greencards...there are a couple songs I still really like.

Namely, "All The Way From Italy," "Lonesome Side of Town," "Travel On," and the instrumental "Mucky The Duck." So the Greencards are still the Duhks of the year. But the Duhks were more consistently lively and imaginative and willing to challenge jig-music genre boundaries, and so is Amanda Shaw. Even those songs I like tend to be more subdued than I wish they were (also, three don't show up until the very end of the album, which wasn't a very good idea.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago)

"It's Christmas Time In Detroit City," Redhill:

http://www.myspace.com/REDHILLCOUNTRYROCKPOP

Commendably jazzy (at least in a '90s swing revival meets homemade country-pop kinda way), I guess, but nowhere near as good as the much darker "Christmas Time in The Motor City" by Was (Not Was) from 1981.

Also nowhere near as good as every cut I've noticed so far on Taylor Swift's Xmas EP (which seems great).

xhuxk, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago)

On the other hand, Evans' this-year's hit, "As If," is one of the better tracks; doesn't do double flips, but it's got a better dance to it than most; I like the bright sound she gives to lyrics that the more attentively you listen to 'em the more pessimistic they seem. "Let me believe that you're perfect at least for a little while" pretty much stands on the conviction that things are going to look worse in a while.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago)

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Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago)

On third listen the Brooks & Dunn has more ass-kissing than usual (genuflecting to Hank and Hag and Buck and Cash and this is so boring boring boring boring and praising cowgirls and cowboys), or maybe I'm just in a more-sensitive-to-ass-kissing mood, but I feel an affection for the totally muddled theology of "God Must Be Busy" (you know, even all-powerful dieties must get sorta not all powerful at times; or maybe the song is ironic; I can't tell anymore). Also the album kicks hard all the way through, strong tequila song (song is strong that is), strong drop-in-the-bucket Stones song, strong Mellencamp rocking on "Cowboy Town," good stumbling-up-the-stairs floompfing on the Jerry Jeff Walker duet, in general I'm pleased with it despite wanting to tune out the meanings here and there. Surprised it isn't higher in Xhuxk's standings.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 19 November 2007 01:11 (seventeen years ago)

Cedar Hill -- Poverty Hill Put out with Tom T and Dixie Hall's help (on Blue Circle Records, on which he put out his own bluegrass album earlier this year, so I gather it's own imprint; also, said couple wrote a few of the songs), with help (vocals and mandolin in one basically forgettable track) by Vince Gill and longish liner notes by Rhonda Vincent, supposedly "hard driving" bluegrass according to their CDbaby page. But to my ears it doesn't even starting hinting at driving hard until the last couple songs, and even then, the hardness is only relative to the earlier easieness. "Wasting My Time," probably the best cut, is pretty speedy I guess. I want to like the Tom T. and Dixie-penned title track, but nothing in it is telling me it says anything intersting or new about being poor (well, I think it says Daddy's drunk at one point, which I doubt is that much more common among poor than rich people); I bet I'd like it more if Tom was singing it. "Blood Stained Bible" at the end seems good, but by the time I get there I'm too tired to notice:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/cedarhillbg2

xhuxk, Monday, 19 November 2007 11:54 (seventeen years ago)

Speaking of Motel Soul, there's a link on robertchristgau.com to his NPR review of that and several other somewhat similarly inclined r & b items, and I wanna thank Edd for talking me into requesting a promo of Bettye Lavette's The Scene Of The Crime. There's an implied (but not strictly enforced) timeline of a couple who are as much the victims of their (own and each other's) vitality, as much as craziness, and by vitality, I mean not just lust for life, but tenacity, and sheer endurance (genetic, in no small measure): old school--don't most assholy couples nowadays eventually kill somebody, or just go staggering off and start practicing on somebody else, or perhaps retire to a bus locker? She adapts other people's songs, mostly, changes lyrics:adds, subtracts, bends, stretches, squeezes syllables, words, phrases, while repeating then, and slowing them down, which is risky--sometimes my thoughts are cirling her twists and turns, sometimes, who knows where the time goes, and whether it's her or me (some of both)--but her reworking of Elton John's "Talking Old Soldiers" keeps her and me perfectly focussed (ditto Spooner Oldham's piano, David Hood's bass, John Neff's steel guitar, but the voice, words, piano are what I'm most aware of, yet the focus does seem perfect with those three elements way up front). The terror, the eagerness, the cough/laugh, all part of the twilight ritual, reeling around one more time, makin' the rounds--and right after that untoppable spot-on spotlight, "Before The Money Came" can well afford to splatter its notes around, without blurring at all, and the latest reunion "I Guess We Shouldn't Talk About That Now" also knows the best of avoiding exactitude yo. Not that the violence isn't as least as likely to be in the nerves as the police reports, but nerves are physical enough. Backup band is mainly the Drive-By Truckers, calling more than ever on their increasingly excellent/signifying rhythm section, Shonna Tucker and Brad Morgan, but with the confrontational songs that A Blessing And A Curse avoided too often, if not all together, except for Jason's (incl the unreleased "When The Well Runs Dry"),but oops they flushed him, just a coincidence. (Their new album, the first without him, comes out Jan. 22, I think---Patterson did co-write "Before The Money Came" with Bettye, and says on the press sheet that he was totally blown away by her transformation of the Elton song--yeah, that's the best, when somebody spots that kind of potential in some out-of-the-way place, *and* knows how to summon it forth--hallelujah! Wonder how else he/they were affected by working with her, will it help their next? Ehh, maybe--anyway, the downhome neurosis of this def seems country to me, and prob Top Ten)(she also adapts Eddie Hinton, Willie Nelson ["Somebody Pick Up My Pieces," first time I've heard that), Frankie Miller[!]'s "Jealousy," "Choices," which was orig recorded by George Jones, I think)

dow, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 02:15 (seventeen years ago)

"assholy couple" (also if you ever saw that early Pink video, in which she and her lover trash a department store full of Christmas shoppers before getting back togehter, awww how sweet)--but on Bettye's album, I'm drawn in much further than I'd allow or in most cases be capable of, on this side of the speakers--having dealt with such romantics in far too many fine establishments where I have worked, and several friendships (and maybe a few more personal detours, but I didn't make myself at home there, like some people do--but there but for fortune, and lack of energy, etc.)

dow, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

So did anybody else read this piece about northern Texas/southern Oklahoma "red dirt music" in the Times the other day? I still don't think Cross Canadian Ragweed are all that great (at least on album, where they actually sound a lot wimpier than plenty of the Nashville music their fans apparently dismiss as wimpy), but this article was interesting:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/arts/music/18beau.html?ex=1353128400&en=51eafde12487911d&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 12:43 (seventeen years ago)

(Upthread I talk about a feature I'd read in a freebie little Texas publication about the same phenomenon, and I mention a band called Renegade Rail doing a song called "Red Dirt Music" where they take swipes at Lonestar. Also just remembered that Brooks and Dunn's probable best album is called Red Dirt Road; I wonder if that's an accident.) (And yeah, Frank, I'm a lot more ambivalent about the new B&D than their last few, though I think it's got a couple really good things about it, along with some utter snoozers. Again, details way upthread.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 12:55 (seventeen years ago)

I am hereby selecting not to listen even once to Trace Adkins' Greatest Hits Volume II: American Man, as it does not have either his great "I'm Tryin'" or his very very good "The Stubborn One" on it, and the latter is on his previous album which also has "Swing" and the video mix of "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk." (Just wanted to get this on record, for future reference, and in case anybody wondered.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 November 2007 00:36 (seventeen years ago)

Rachel Williams = Too much like Lucinda Williams; i.e., too much heavy "emotion", not enough tunes. Or something. Gets slightly better when she gets slightly more pop; never really clicks, at least in whatever portion of her album's too many songs (16) that I actually managed to make it through. Too bad, because I really wanted to like her, thanks to the fact that she's cute and claims "Motor City rhythm and blues" (which I don't hear) among her influences:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=31520016

Burgandy Brown -- Or 13urgandy 13rown, as she is referred to on the cover of her new My Lucky 13 album. Looks like Gretchen Williams. Occasionally ("Lady Like") sort of sounds like Gretchen Wilson, or at least adopts her schtick (that is, she claims to like football, NASCAR, and the WWF). More often seems to be trying too hard to sound like late P.J. Harvey; i.e., she lacks tunes, too, and comes off muffled. Though sometimes an okay flamenco guitar lick or hard strum will come in. Songs sound aimless, though, and often rather dumb:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=33809006

Merle Haggard, Hag's Christmas -- So yeah, it has "If We Make It Through December," which is among his best songs ever, which is saying a hell of a lot, even though, sorry Merle, December is not "the coldest time of winter," and never was (okay, maybe metaphorically it is, which is maybe his point, but temperature-wise January and February are almost always chillier in my experience.) The rest of this, well....He sings "Winter Wonderland" beautifully. No idea why he bothered with "Jingle Bells," and Taylor Swift does "White Christmas" and "Silent Night" better. "Homemade Christmas Card" is a talked recital, like that old "Deck of Cards" thing by, um, whoever did it, and is vaguely interesting once. (The homemade card is from Grandma's, and the only one his family keeps from year to year.") "Bobby Wants a Puppy" is not as horrible and maudlin as the title suggests, since it's actually about Bobby living on a farm in the middle of nowhere where he can't find friends and no cousins ever come to visit (or something), but the chorus kind of makes me gag anyway. "Santa Claus and Popcorn" also has better verses (one of which refers to Bing Crosby, also Jesus is in there somewhere) than its chorus, which is maybe supposed to be ironic (we've reduced Christmas, which was this great solemn holy occasion to, um, popcorn -- hey, could've been in the popcorn chapter in my second book), but I still don't like it much. (Actually, being ironic wouldn't make it better. I have nothing against popcorn. But maybe it would be better if Merle said "hot butter say what" more.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 November 2007 01:25 (seventeen years ago)

Gretchen Williams

WILSON, duh.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 November 2007 01:43 (seventeen years ago)

Keith Urban Greatest Hits is indeed pretty great. Favorites (though I could possibly be convinced otherwise) are probably "Romeo's Tune" (does this make Keith Urban the Steve Forbert of country? -- anyway, it was great fake-Dylan new wave powerpop in 1979 and it still is), "Stupid Boy" (which I didn't like when it came out but now I love how it builds and the guitars kick in), "One In A Lifetime" (more good guitar pop), "Where the Blacktop Ends," and "Somebody Like You" (not to be confused with "Everybody" or the icky "Your [sic?] Everything," which surround it on the album but don't sound as much like Bryan Adams.) Then maybe "Days Go By" (w/ Big Country midsection, i.e. guitars that sound like bagpipes), "But For The Grace of God" (neighbors fighting). And "You'll Think of Me" has a good clippity clop rhythm, and "Making Memories of Us" and the huge hit "You'll Think of Me" (where I assume Keith crossed over to the James Blunt crowd and where I know he definitely crossed over to my grocery store's P.A.) are mush.

The Steve Forbert Game

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 November 2007 03:21 (seventeen years ago)

Steve Forbert, yeesh. And Tom Moon was the Steve Forbert of rock critics, right? (According to the SF Game.)Somebody who sounds like Keith Urban could sound if his musical abilties were more directly connected to other parts of his brain, is Protest Hill, with The City Echoes Our Hearts. As you might suspect from the title, he's a soap opera cowboy, an urban cowboy of (hey babe in your bed)chamber music (prog) soap opera cowboy, sometimes, sort of like earlier Scott Walker, when Walker sounded more American and much less cryptic (he *is* American, but more recently American like Henry James and T.S. Eliot, only even more cryptic---but still a soap opera cowboy, in his way.) Not that Hill (whose real name is *Ryan,* perfect for his role) gets fancy on every track (one of which can still be heard in my PaperThinWalls review--he'll be on my Country Top Ten this year if the review was this year?)

dow, Thursday, 22 November 2007 05:20 (seventeen years ago)

Well, I'm not saying Urban's a brilliant lyricist, though he's...um, functional. And I don't really know what I mean by claiming his best-of is "great"; as always, for instance, I wish there was more guitar. But still. There's something about his music's hacklike serviceability that somehow matches the laid-back Aussie himbo with the surf-swept hair persona. He's a real good tunesmith, if never all that consistent (though the inconsistency matches the persona, too -- he's such a slacker! And he's been more consistent lately.) He might be more interesting if, say, the problems that led him into rehab showed up in his songs more, but there's no guarantee of that. I like him better than the Scott Walker stuff I've heard, either way (which isn't to suggest I wouldn't check out Protest Hill, annoying name and all, if given the chance.)

Speaking of good guitar players who I wish had better songs attached, I've also been listening to the soundtrack for The Great Debaters this week, and I like some of the stuff on it by blues guy Alvin Youngblood Hart (whose '05 Motivational Speaker was a keeper); the 7:44 opener with Sharon Jones, "My Soul Is A Witness," gets a good hard repetitive extended drone going. Too many reverent covers of old blues songs done better before, though, and I'm sorry, in general, Sharon Jones's schtick strikes me as compleltely ridiculous, in the Amy Winehouse sense almost, and with a voice as unremarkable soulwise as Amy's in -- especially when trying to get spiritual in "We Shall Not Be Moved" and especially especially especially when trying to swing her wing dang doodle in the entirely unconvincing "That's What My Baby Likes." ("Wild About Thing"'s bawdy barrelhouse is slightly more tolerable.) Alvin's got some good guitar parts on the album, though. And I actually think the couple (just as reverent as anybody else here) excursions into old timey Delta riverboat jass by David Berger & the Sultans of Swing sound pretty not-bad. And "The Shout" by Art Tatum (who I've never explored, though maybe I should) is pretty fantastic.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago)

not saying Urban's a brilliant lyricist

Or that the people who write for him (i.e. - Richard Marx in "Better Life" and "Everybody", Charlotte Caffrey and Jane Wiedlin in "For the Grace of God"--so wait, was that a Go-Gos song?) are, for that matter.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

Prediction for the best 2007 country album I didn't get around to hearing (or even seeing) yet: Leann Rimes. (I've kept up with '07 country way more than metal or teenpop, at least in terms of albums-I-feel-I-may-have-missed. See those threads for specifics.)

Looker "After My Divorce"/"Master's Gone Away" is a real good 7-inch 45. The band says they're not making their music available on CD anymore -- music will just come out digitally and on vinyl. I talked about their full-length upthread somewhere, way earlier this year. Anyway, this one isn't remotely country except emotionally, possibly, and the fact that Primitives-style (see: "Crash") new wave jangle-powerpop with plenty of pretty girlish harmonies isn't all that far from where some country stands these days, and in the divorce song the singers move from many places (Nashville among them, sounds like) to New York (where Looker are based, though they are apparently about to appropriately open some dates for the Undertones in the U..K.), and in the B-side they get furniture (which I hope does not contain bedbugs) off the street, and repeatedly say "Jimmy crack corn and I don't care at all": country indeed.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=3425560

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 November 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I'd like to like Urban for more than a song, or in some cases a guitar solo, at a time; mebbe a live album would do it? I'll have to see if he's in that AOL concert series that did right by Nelly Furtado (seemingly simple, like a camera recording, except much better)I'll send you Protest Hill; it's not great, but I think you'll see what I was trying to describe.

dow, Saturday, 24 November 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago)

So, here's something nobody has pointed out, even though the album entered the album chart at #1 a month or two ago, apparently without anybody actually listening to it: The new Kid Rock album is actually surprisingly good -- way better than (to name the only things I can really think to compare it to), say, the new Shooter Jennings album or any album Drive By Truckers have put in the last several years, not to mention, probably, the best Kid Rock album since Devil Without a Cause. It's also got his funniest songwriting (or at least his best punchlines) since Devil -- most notably the closer "Lowlife (Living the Highlife)", which (after its funky "Bang a Gong"/"Long Tall Woman In A Black Dress" riff) starts out "I've got my Cat Scratch Fever eight-track/My best friend's in my gun wrack/I owe everybody money/I think racist jokes are funny" then progresses from there, fucking your wife and keeping cocaine on the nightstand and siring kids he's never met with 17-year-old mothers and watching porno on his TV and spending his rent money on a Kiss tattoo and making black music for the white man. Plus, it rocks, a lot, as does most of the rest of the album. Right now I'm leaning toward my favorite track being "All Summer Long" (late-'70s-Seger-style teenage deflowering in northern Michigan in the days before the Internet reminiscence with a excellent groove that keeps moving back and forth between "Werewolves of London" and "Sweet Home Alabama," the latter of which the lyrics repeatedly reference), but it's got plenty of competition: opener/title track "Rock n Roll Jesus" (very early-70s-Seger-style, as in "Nutbush City Limits," hard funky Midwestern wah-wah rock); "New Orleans" (second-line r&b grooved homage to gumbo and the Neville Brothers and "Hey Pockaway" with good sax and a maybe too subdued vocal but it's nice to hear Kid trying to take it easy that way); "Blue Jeans and a Rosary" (possible early Springsteen attempt girl-who-almost-saved-him power ballad cornballism that I'm obviously an immediate sucker for given the Catholocism angle). Most country track per se' is probably "Half Your Age," reportedly aimed at Pamela Anderson, and it's pretty amusing in an assholish David Allen Coe kind of way (i.e., he replaces her with a younger woman who doesn't bitch about what he don't have). Most nu-metal-dumbass tracks (maybe for folks who've noticed that Nickelback's somewhat great "Rockstar" sort of sounds like Kid Rock) -- smack-dab in the middle of the album -- are "So Hott," which starts out with a perfectly spare Ram Jam "Black Betty" drumbeat then eventually a "Satisfaction"-gone-fratboy-Clear-Channel-rock riff comes in and the groove's good enough that you can ignore the lunkhead lugnut words if you want, and "Sugar," which has some okay Steve Tyler-type screeching and a couple funny race-baiting lines ("Kiss my Anglo-Saxon ass," "I like stars and bars but I ain't no Nazi"). Probably my least favorite song, which seems to be aiming and failing somewhat miserably at hitting the socially conscious post-Temptations-doing-"Ball of Confusion" hippie side of early Seger but it's got a good hair-metal guitar part in it anyway, is "Amen" ("simplify, testify, identify, rectify, and I get high stop being so uptight"), which is also sort of a gospel attempt, and thereby somewhat commendable in its own special way; also, those two black girls Kid's sandwiched between on the cover and in the booklet sure do have impressive Afros. Three other songs (a couple more power ballads, another brag where he likens himself to Cool Hand Luke and Bad Bad Leroy Brown), and they're competent throwaways -- as I've said before; Kid's a pro, proud to be a journeyman like his heroes; that's part of the point. And it's enough.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 November 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

"..and if I get high stop being so uptight..." , I meant.

And the ballads ("Blue Jeans and A Rosary" especially) have real good swaying melodies too, for what that's worth.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 November 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago)

Also: "Long Cool Woman In a Black Dress." But you know the riff I'm talking about right? And so on.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 November 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago)

Anyway, if there's anything that would keep Kid out of my year-end overall top 10 (he's a shoo-in for my country top 10), it's his singing voice. He sort of still doesn't have one. But I usually don't mind.

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 November 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

(He does sing better than the Nickelback guy, though. And if he did "Rockstar," he'd do it faster -- and better.) (Actually, I'm not sure it does sound like him, though its words and its cadence might. So whenever I hear it, I imagine him singing it.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 November 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago)

In my latest Rules Of The Game column I write about a bunch of country songs, repeating some of what I've said here and saying some new stuff too. I've got a lot about Eric Church.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago)

Based on the two songs I've heard, Xhuxk's right about the Kid(d) Rock alb. Hilarious, blatant, slimy, silly, and rocking.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago)

Also, in that controversial Sasha Frere-Jones piece about the lack of "miscegenation" in modern-day indie, for some reason Sasha thinks Beasties and Vanilla Ice and Eminem are relevant to the subject of whites seling big by doing hip-hop but Kid Rock not, even though Devil probably outsold any album by the rest of them. (I'm not sure he outsold the Vanilla Ice.)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago)

For the record, Devil Without a Cause outsold all the albums by all those other artists you listed, though The Marshall Mathers LP is within a couple million.

Greg Fanoe, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago)

Country fans! Today we'll be talking about and playing some country music on the Lollards of Pop, on Resonance FM.

http://www.resonancefm.com

2pm EST, or 7pm if you're in the UK. If you're in London, you can pick up Resonance at 104.4.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 09:27 (seventeen years ago)

If, like me, you missed the Lollards thing, you can listen to it or download it at Freaky Trigger.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago)

I listened to the 30-second clips of LeAnn Rimes' Family on one of her Websites, and decided that I'll probably love about a third to a half of it and the rest will put me to sleep. "Nothin' Better To Do" is streamed there in full, if you haven't heard it, and it gets better the more I listen. Pulls off what Kylie's "Two Hearts" didn't do as well: builds and builds on a groove.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 30 November 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago)

Anyway: can we talk about Robert Earl Keen? I am afraid to mention him on the main page for fear of indie-bhangra-electro-dance-punk-rap retribution. Anyway, I have been really into him for the last week or so for some reason. Even "Merry Christmas From the Family", which used to annoy the shit out of me. Turns out that is a quality, quality song

I'd never heard it before (in Keen's own version or anybody else's), but Montgomery Gentry cover it on BNA's otherwise mostly useless new Hear Something Country comp, and holy shit is it great -- would make my country top ten singles list if it was a single, easy. Is Keen's version famous among, like, Texans or somebody? Maybe I should check him out more. Only other track on that Xmas comp that would really be worth keeping is another non-carol-standard thing, Phil Vassar''s sort of smoking jacket and hottub-quiet-stormed grown up seduction number "Let's Make A Little Christmas Tonight"; I really do think Vassar's underrated, and someday maybe I'll make a convincing case for why.

Otherwise, pffft....Brad Paisley does a good "Winter Wonderland," Terri Clark does an okay "O Little Town Of Bethlehem" and Carrie Underwood an okay "Do You Hear What I Hear" (maybe she's even covering the Whitney Houston version?) I guess, and I can tolerate Blaine Larsen's "Away in the Manger" though preferably not the spoken parts about Jesus. Johnny Cash's "Silent Night" is silent enough -- I get the point; can see how it might be stirring in the right habitat. Kellie Pickler's "Santa Baby" sounds way too celibate, somehow, up against Taylor Swift's version from her EP, much less Madonna's. Etc. etc.

Lots of other stuff to talk about someday: Jason Ringenberg's double-CD career comp (very spotty, but occasionally scorching as is claimed), Goodbye Nashville Hello Camden Town double-CD pub-rock compilation (amazing, though someone spotty itsownself), new Drive By Truckers (just now getting around to it, no idea what I think), Chris Cagle 10-song press sampler (couple great songs, not as many as I'd hoped), not-always-awful rustic indie twerpiness from Shortstack and Crooked Lake (the latter of whom intermittently remind me of the early Meat Puppets and Modest Mouse, though less good), more maybe. Someday, when I'm not buried in work, I'll get around to talking about some it, perhaps.

And oh yeah, Tim McGraw's smooth-jazzed yacht-rock cover of Eddie Rabbit's "Suspicions," which has been on the country songs chart for a couple weeks now, may well wind up as my country single of the year.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:00 (seventeen years ago)

Also, some parts of Kid Rock's new album -- notably his social consciousness move "Amen" and his "I Used to Love Her"(by GnR)-reminiscent Pamela Anderson dis "Half Your Age" -- are better than I thought and other tracks are not as good as I thought, but I still expect the album (as of now anyway) to squeak in at #10 on my year end top ten. Best song is "Lowlife (Living the Highlife)." "Blue Jeans and a Rosary," which I'd compared to Springsteen for some reason, is more like hair-metal power ballad, and a good one -- reminds me of something that could have been on, say, the second Faster Pussycat album.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:25 (seventeen years ago)

What Keen-via-MG's "Merry Christmas from the Family" actually reminds me of, in a way, is songwriter/ music-critic Davitt Sigerson's "It's a Big Country" from the Ze Christmas album 26 years ago, though Keen/MG are actually less reverent about the holiday than even Sigerson was. But a similar mood, somehow.

Here's the words to the former, fwiw:

http://www.lyrics007.com/Montgomery%20Gentry%20Lyrics/Merry%20Christmas%20From%20The%20Family%20Lyrics.html

xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

xhuxk didja get that Protest Hill I sent, huh didja? I keep thinking about Johnny Bush's Kashmere Gardens Mud more than my Top Ten selections. It's too uneven for Top Ten (Albums), or is it? They can be uneven--but this 'un's subtitle, A Tribute To Houston's Country Soul, seems a little too appropriate so far: like "Johnny Bush Presents," he's very dignified, not cold, but formal-seeming, carefully enunciated, carefully placed baritone, closer to Hank Snow than Willie, who steals the show on "Send Me The Pillow You Dream On," although their version of "Pancho And Lefty" is the first I've gotten into (Willie times Merle times Townes times Pancho times Lefty times all the Federales was mebbe too many Legends in one song for me--Johnny's journeyman equiv of "transparent prose" thins the atmospherics just enough) Also a good duet with Floyd Tillman(!) on "They Took The Stars Out Of Heaven," and the opening title song, remembering bleak early homestead, and Momma leaving Daddy (more than the kids? inferential kid concern there: "is it my fault? What can I do to fix it?" ) Followed immediately by "I'll Sail My Ship Alone" (and if it goes wrong I'll blame you), jaunty with little stagger-steps, the Western Swing drunk starting to get his glow on, looking for somebody to fuck and fuck with (Johnny Gimble, many excellent players, bands! But the blues orchestra tracks bring out the formalist again, esp. and ironically, considering the title, "Free Soul")But"I Want A Drink Of That Water" ("he turned into wine" eventually syncretizes the Saturday night and Sunday morning themes, though he never leans too heavy on the latter, or the former, for that matter)Mixed results on "These Hands" begins with intriguing vinyl excerpt of his uncle(cowboy singer) Jerry Jericho, who, like Willie, is a hard act to follow, though Johnny kinda does--and but "Born To Lose, "Family Bible," "Bloody Mary Morning" have to compete with well-known,definitive versions--still for a museum tour, not bad, and several well-worth listing as Top Ten Singles/Featured Tracks.

dow, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago)

And now Miley Cyrus's "See You Again," which

(1) is her best song,
(2) has never been played on Radio Disney,
(3) I insist is country though Chris disagrees,
(4) is by a Disney artist so it's in a category that barely or never gets played on Top 40 even when the song is by Aly & A.J. or Hilary Duff,
(5) has no video, and
(6) as far as I know is not even being pushed as a single at all by the record company, in fact a different Miley track, "Start All Over," has just been added to the Radio Disney playlist,

is being played by twenty-three Top 40 stations, which is not a large number (less than Aly & A.J.'s "Potential Breakup Song" got at it's not very high Top 40 peak), except that one of those stations is in New York City. (Another is 60 miles up the river in Newburgh. Another is in Ft. Myers, Indiana. Another is in Charleston S.C.) It's also being played by at least one adult contemporary station, though I haven't been able to pin down which.

So, anyway, perhaps the song is being pushed to Top 40 by Walt Disney Records (but not to Radio Disney), but why is it getting anywhere? Is it connected to some TV commercial? Or is this, simply listener demand? But why Top 40, a format that usually ignores Disney teens? As far as I know (again, not having paid consistent attention), no previous Miley/Hannah track has done anything on Top 40.

Maybe this is genuine audience demand. It's weird to call a kiddie sitcom star's airplay the result of bottom-up grassroots enthusiasm, but something is going on out of the ordinary. The song is getting good iTunes action, as well - in fact, it's my guess that the iTunes action is what started the airplay.

Anyway, I don't mean to keep harping on this song, but I genuinely am curious if any of you has any insight as to why this song seems to be breaking the rules.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

"Even "Merry Christmas From the Family", which used to annoy the shit out of me. Turns out that is a quality, quality song"

i was just listening to this the other night. i only have the Keen Live At The Ryman album and I love it a ton. I like it so much that I'm afraid to try another album of his cuz I'm afraid I won't like it as much. The live album is near perfect. I'd never even heard of him before I heard that album. I'm wondering if the Hold Steady guy is a fan. They both love their place names. actually, playing Lifter Puller made me pull out the Keen album the other night.

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago)

they actually made a video for the live at the ryman version of xmas:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=P37xPiRz1sg

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

Montgomery Gentry version

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago)

So in the Keen video (which is pretty great), is it my imagination, or are Brother Ken's identical twins from his second marriage actually several years older than his three kids from his first marriage? And if so, how is that possible? (Also, that champagne punch looks way too glutinous, hence not at all appetitizing. Do people actually drink punch that gooey? Not that I've personally ever been a big punch fan -- or champagne fan, for that matter.)

Don, I did get the Protest Hill burn CD, and thanks. But unless something suddenly kicks in, I'm guessing we're going to hit another impasse on this one, and agree to disagree -- Sometimes there are some echoing production touches that sound okay to me (in "Matches" for instance, I guess), but the music and singing are just hitting me as amorphous, sleepy, really lethargic indie-rock-more-than-any-kind-of-country-I'm-aware-of snooze -- Doesn't pull my attention in for me to figure out whether there are actually songs there. But maybe this is just my weird subtletyphobia at work again -- I've never understood the appeal of Johnny Bush (if that's who you're comparing Protest Hill to) either (not that I've spent a ton of time trying, admittedly, though when I did, I kept thinking "demo singer.") Either way, I definitely prefer Keith Urban, no contest...

Speaking of snoozy, the five-song covers EP by apparent "Americana" band Shortstack doesn't hit me as horrible -- They're clearly going for Nick Cave and Neil Young folk dirge buildups in their Kinks and Captain Beefheart covers, respectively; they don't convince me at all, but at least I can see the point. And the version of "Commotion" by Creedence (one of CCR's most energetic songs) has energy to it.

I like the Crooked Lake album better. Like I said, a sort of vague, muffled, lyrically incomprehensible but often melodically engaging early Meat Puppets via Modest Mouse rustic clippity-clopping indie two-step to much of it; the more it jigs the better it gets (i.e., track ten -- hard to figure which title is which, from the way they're jumbled on the cover), though too often it just, uh, shambles or something. Also made me think (in its more shambly moments) of Grandadddy, Fruit Bats, and Sixth Great Lake stuff I heard and kind of liked before, though probably not as good as any of the above (and it's been a while since any of those wimps grabbed me.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 6 December 2007 13:00 (seventeen years ago)

Oops, actually I guess The Goodnight Loving is the band's name, and Crooked Lake is their album title. They are Wisconsinians. Here's their myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/thegoodnightloving

And here is Shortstack's (from D.C.):

http://www.myspace.com/shortstackmusic

xhuxk, Thursday, 6 December 2007 13:14 (seventeen years ago)

And actually, come to think of it, the last time I tried him, Johnny Bush (who, now that I reread Don's post, I don't think he was really comparing Protest Hill to at all) probably hit me as more a "dreary, stodgy bore" than a "demo singer" (the latter of which would imply I actually heard songs with potential, which I'm not sure I did.) But again, that was a while ago. And it's quite possible I didn't give Bush the time his dreariness requires.

xhuxk, Thursday, 6 December 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago)

I met Johnny Bush this year and caught his act three times. I regard his Stop records, from the late '60s and very early '70s, as classic sorta post-Ray Price Texoid shuffle starting on the seventh of the chord, and he had a big, full-throttle baritone itching to become a tenor. I think they called him the Country Caruso, down in Texas. Anyway, I'm halfway pleased with my Nashville Scene piece on him that ran back in May. My love for Buddy Emmons' steel pickin' I've made clear up in here, too, and for my money the Bush/Emmons pairing on classix like "Undo the Right" and my favorite, "Sound of a Heartache" (definitive Texas jazzoid change in there on the chorus, deep country sophisto-sleaze at its most emblematic), is one of country's great singer/instrumentalist pairings. Kashmere Gardens Mud showcases the deterioration of Bush's voice (which for sure could be a bit overripe even at its best, plus he had spasmodic dysphonia, a curious singer's ailment that also afflicted Richard Thompson's ex-wife and maybe listening to Thompson's dour voice had something to do with it?), but also his phrasing. I think he's a Texas Tony Bennett, maybe, or pick your jazz or soul or jazzily soulful or soulfully jazzy semi-famous singer of choice, Johnny Adams or Al Hibbert or whoever. It is a Texas thing but I like it and he wasn't bad at all on RCA briefly in the later early '70s. (I talked to his producer, Jerry Bradley, who said basically that he thought Bush coulda made it had he not lost his voice right when the RCA contract kicked in and Bush had already written "Whiskey River." "If he coulda gotten some of those ol' Nashville, good ol' Nashville songs, why, Bush coulda been bigger 'n Texas..." Bradley told me.

The only place you can get the Johnny Bush stuff on Stop--and there are CDs of Sound of a Heartache ('67) and one called 1968-1972 in the Texas Legends Series, plus a live '79 date that's pretty swingin' on the definitive version of "From Tennessee to Texas" which ought to be Bush's theme song--is the Ernest Tubb Record Shops, far as I know.

Carrie Underwood's new one scared me, ran over me. As with the first one, what a goddam overheated aesthetic, what pinpoint-precision Southern-rock riffs all deployed to comment on the action. One song, my notes said but I can't find them, was a dead ringer for Jellyfish circa Spilt Milk, and in general, a very bright, intelligent and near-perfect record. I like the uptempo stuff better but I think she does well with her sad tales of the Life She Left Behind and the killer is "Last Name," where she goes to Vegas in a Pinto, gets drunk, takes the Pinto and what happens in Vegas, stays with her except she can't remember the name of the guy she married. I guess what I like about it is partly her--what a voice but it's kinda anonymous actually--but more like the way she fits right into the vision of the people behind the scenes, she's a drama queen for up-and-comers who switch from Wal-Mart to Target because they recently finished up that college degree at age 30 and just moved into the city. A pretty hip record when all is said and done and maybe "better" (if lacking the killer singles of) than the first one.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 6 December 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

This year I have even less clue than usual what's likely to win - or even place - in the Nashville Scene's country critics poll. Well, Miranda will make the top ten, but I would be shocked if she won, even if she's ruling our part of the Internet world. Except I don't have any idea who else would win. (It sure doesn't seem like, for instance, Mary Gauthier's year.) Other than the Miranda, I'm not sure what else I'm likely to vote for that will place (Bettye Lavett, perhaps, but I need to give it more listens to decide if it's in the running for my ballot). I hope John Anderson places high, but I'm not counting on it. Gary Allan usually places (haven't heard it yet). I heard the Neil Young Live At Massey Hall 1971 and might vote it as a reissue, though I don't know how many other people would, given that many won't consider it country.

Is there any single that people are really going "Yes" to this year? I can't imagine that "Ticks" will do better than "Alcohol" did two years ago. (Well, I can imagine it - my imagination is vivid, like the time I had a dream where I was Inspector Clousseau underground in WWII disguised as a famous surrealist - but I would be appalled if it happened.)

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 6 December 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

Oh well, Johnny Bush's album will prob be an Honorable Mention or something. A couple more goodies would have put it in Top Ten, but I can't big up something that's only half good (although some of the good is awesome)Right, I wasn't comparing him to Protest Hill, the later is more my idea of how Keith Urban (or some other suburban soap popery cowpoke) should sound in the studio (though K.U.'s live shows often get great reviews, by writers who mention how surprised they are, having dozed through his albums--surprised all over again, in some cases). Just as Pam Tillis's Rhinestoned is my idea of a good pop country album, with A-list Nashville Cats supporting her lush, overcast but ruefully lucid musings, testimony,speculations (runs into an old flame, from younger, less resposible days, they're getting kinda het up while shaking heads at their olden bolden) pineywoods atmospheres(in the park, but still).Is this just infatuation? Just got the ballot... Here's what I wrote about Protest Hill, and yall can still hear the spotlight track (only one allowed for posting by label, and not as striking as "Matches," which even xhuxx liked a little bit, but still good, and see funny Comments after)
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefilw/item?id=653

dow, Friday, 7 December 2007 02:48 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, without the typo:
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=653

dow, Friday, 7 December 2007 02:52 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, I am clearly Johnny Bush illiterate, and I should just keep my mouth shut (which doesn't necessarily mean I'd like him more if I heard more.)

Well, Miranda will make the top ten, but I would be shocked if she won

Why shocked, Frank? I'd be fairly surprised if she doesn't win country critic polls this year. She's clearly crossed over to alt-country/adult-alternative type critics -- for instance, her album finished #18 in Paste magazine, and "Dry Town" was the #13 single, even though it's not a single. (Gauthier finished #28, ,though Patty Griffin's "Heavenly Day," which I've never heard and doubt I'd like, was the #7 single.) I suppose some albums that finished higher could be considered country -- Springsteen, White Stripes, Modest Mouse, Wilco....maybe the Avett Brothers? What do they sound like again? -- but I doubt there will be a consensus that any of them should be.

xhuxk, Friday, 7 December 2007 03:40 (seventeen years ago)

By the way, what probably surprised me most about that Paste list (besides the existence of some acts I never heard of before -- which, really, is not a surprise) is that Linda Thompson's album (which I didn't realize exists, not that I really care) placed and Richard Thompson's album (which was really good, best one by him I've heard in decades, not that I've really made a point of keeping up) did not. Which makes me wonder whether there is some kind of backlash against that record by stupid people who liked the boring albums he's been putting out for the last several years. But maybe not. (Really, though, is a Thompson fan contingent who dislike that record? And if so, why, I wonder?)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago)

(is there a Thompson fan contingent etc etc)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

Other possibily borderline country albums that Paste critics put on their list, fwiw:

23. Black Lips (not very borderline, but it has one or two country-ish songs, just like Modest Mouse, and I wrote about both of those albums on this thread)
24. Patty Griffin
25. Over The Rhine
28. Mary Gauthier, as I said
36. Joe Henry maybe? (Hell if I know.)
45. Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings maybe? (probaby not)
49. Carolina Chocolate Drops? (seemingly somehow connected with Sharon Jones and they back up Alvin Youngblood Hart on that Great Debaters soundtrack, though otherwise I know nothing about them)

(Some other albums on there that I've never heard of may have country elements unknown by me too, of course.)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

Just starting glancing at the Harp and Mojo lists on the 2007 poll thread, though, and I see Steve Earle and Jason Isbel (and Oakley Hall, do they count?) (+ Betty Lavette/Mavis Staples/Sharon Jones) (among other things?) on the Harp list, and Plant/Krauss (among other things?) on the Mojo list. Maybe Isbel or Plant/Krauss could challenge Lambert, country poll wise? I kinda doubt it, but who knows. (Not sure I ever heard anybody talk about the Earle album. And wasn't Lavette's big album with AAA/NPR type crits her previous one? But maybe I'm wrong.)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 December 2007 13:57 (seventeen years ago)

Linda but not Richard T made the Mojo list too, looks like - wtf? (Also, people really like those shitty Nick Lowe and Ian Hunter LPs that much? Ouch.)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 December 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago)

Any thoughts on Miranda Lambert not getting a Grammy nomination for best album? I would think she'd be more popular in that kind of not (by any means) purely country poll than she would be in, say, that Nashville poll you've been talking about.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 7 December 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

(Not that I understand how the Grammys work or know anything about country music.)

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 7 December 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

Hadn't thought of it, Rockist (even though I spent seven or eight hours yesterday editing a Grammy nominations story.) Yeah, it's curious she's missing.

Looks like Patty Griffin is on the Harp list, too, by the way. So maybe she has a country-poll win shot?

(Also, I hereby apologize for by inborn and/or inbred inability to spell Bettye Lavett -- whose album I've never heard, though maybe I should have.)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 December 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

(And I also apologize for my inability to spell "my".)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 December 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

I'd say Miranda's record will be #1 on the Scene poll--Vince Gill is gonna be up there, he got a Grammy nod looks like. for my money, John Anderson's record is the best country I heard this year.

as for Richard Thompson--I myself have always loved his very very first solo record Henry the Human Fly and I like some of his mid-'70s shit. but as far as his other stuff goes, all I can say is, great guitarist. he has plenty of fans at least around here, but I find most of his work stupefyingly boring.

as far as Johnny Bush goes--a great minor artist, probably, but I do love that Stop stuff. it's florid but clearly, given the man's attempts to be hip (check out the hairdo and the Native American sun-design medallion and leisure-suit he sports on the cover of the 1968-1972 Greatest Hits), it all worked for him, a great ass or leg man I'd venture. that's country.

speaking of asses and legs, I keep seeing the promo for LeAnn Rimes and Joss Stone on CMT Crossroads, which seems to air tonight (Friday). they sound good together and who's more sexy? it's a tossup.

Don writes convincingly about Bettye LaVette above; I gotta say that the allure of that record has faded some for me, it's just kinda, well, arty or forbidding or something. scary. I think I'll be hauling it out whenever I want to muse on the tribulations of the Artist in Exile or something. I suspect that one will be up there in the Country poll Himes does just because she covers Willie Nelson?

finally, before I attempt to run my run this morning in the granular fog and mist of Tennessee December (weather crazily see-sawing between cold and wet and warm and humid, so I feel like I'm almost sick but never quite get there), I'll mention the reissue of Redwing's '71 self-titled record, originally on Fantasy. pretty good country-rock in the Springfield/Moby Grape vein with some CCR austerity and a good "Bo Diddley" ripoff. not half bad at all.

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 7 December 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

and, as far as Scene poll goes, the Porter Wagoner record will rank way up there. I don't think it's as good as the Charlie Louvin record, which as far as I am concerned is Mark Nevers' greatest achievement so far, me being a fan of Nevers--excellent producer and one of my favorite Nashville Figures, always fun to talk to. Jewly Hight wrote about Mary Gauthier in the Scene not long ago, so I dunno, maybe it's good. don't forget that Lori McKenna record, either--to me, a glorified demo in the vein of Amy Rigby's stuff (actually, Amy's records sound good enough). to my ears, the most overrated record all year. or Gretchen Peters' last one, which at least had some neurotic shit about how she just wants to be able to walk to the store and come back to hours of fuckin', marriage is for the birds or whatever--New Urbanist angst, not bad, actually kinda good and one actual rockabilly moment where she flies to England and gets the hell outta whatever suburban enclave she's in, in Nashville. obviously, singer-songwriterdom, and the eternal Scene Poll Question: where does that crap end and Real Country begin? Himes also asks, per usual, where does, say, Otis Taylor fit in...? well, Otis uses the banjo a lot on his new one but it's more scared-slave narrative, propulsive enough in its way...but is one of his protagonists going to be noticed running thru someone's lawn in Williamson County? Yes they will--Otis lives in Boulder, where everyone is on foot or bicycling if they can help it, and that ain't country no matter how they spin it. Real Men uses trucks to get places, fuck some damn bicycle...

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 7 December 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago)

I doubt the Vince Gill record will do well in the country critics' poll, just because it was a 2006 release, and though I haven't looked it up, surely it must have placed fairly high last year?

Willman, Sunday, 9 December 2007 05:42 (seventeen years ago)

"Merry Christmas from the Family" is a great song. I, like a lot of people, knew it from the Jill Sobule version before hearing any of Keen's versions. However... the Montgomery Gentry version is shit. It makes me angry beyond words. Why? Because they don't have the balls to say the word "tampons," so they changed the lyrics. Real men can say "tampons." Fuck them.

Willman, Sunday, 9 December 2007 05:44 (seventeen years ago)

I was in midtown Manhattan at 3 a.m. last night, walking down a deserted street, and there was a street repair crew out with the radio on playing Miley Cyrus' "See You Again." That made me happy.

Willman, Sunday, 9 December 2007 05:47 (seventeen years ago)

Speaking of "Merry Christmas from the Family"... I made a list of the 100 greatest Christmas bummer songs, which you can find here. Lots of country included:

http://www.ew.com/xmasdowners

Anyway, some people have asked why I didn't include "Merry Christmas from the Family." My answer: it's essentially a cheerful song. If that's people's idea of depressing, they really need to get out less, or something.

Willman, Sunday, 9 December 2007 05:51 (seventeen years ago)

Wow, great list -- even though I haven't heard the vast majority of those, I admit. (Most promising title, I'd say: Bobby Bare, "Christmas at the Jersey Lily Lounge". I obviously need to hear that one.)

Maybe if I was waiting for tampons and didn't get them, I'd be pissed off by MG's Keen cover too. But as I said, I'd never heard the song before, in any form. And they sing it better than Keen does (in that youtubed Ryman version anyway), and give it more punch (so if, as I believe Jon Pareles said in the Times Friday, it's possibly the hardest-drinking Xmas song ever -- though, after seeing Chris's list, I'm far from convinced of that claim -- they make it sound harder-drinking still). I expect they out-punch and out-sing Sobule (whose version I've never heard), as well. (I've never much liked her at all.)

I've been wanting to mention this double CD Jason Ringenberg comp on Yep Roc, Best Tracks and Side Tracks: 1979-2007. I stopped paying attention to the guy fairly quickly after the first couple Jason and the Scorchers EPs (including the 7-inch with "Broken Whiskey Glass," which is stupidly not included here and the 45 is also stupidly no longer included in my record collection), and the comp convinces me I didn't miss all that much. There's at least on great song, though -- "Tuskegee Pride," a dark, fairly epic folk ballad which seems to be about black airman winning the war against Germany, though I could be misinterpreting it (and history for that matter.) "The Life of the Party" is a good Stonesy (pre or post?) Georgia Satellites type roller; "Punk Rock Skunk" is silly and fast (and, I predict, either from his very early years or his later kids' record years when he seems to enjoy singing about animals -- "Moose on the Loose" is kind of goofy fun too, but there are no liner notes in my advance detailing chronology); there's a version of "Help Like a Fire" here but it's not nearly as good as the one on Fervor. And a few other tracks are better than bleh, but most of them, sadly, are not. (Also not sure whether the concept here is all solo stuff, as in Scorchers-free. I did like I one song by him in the mid '90s a lot -- put it on a mix tape I made for myself when I sold the promo copy, but the tape's in storage now, and damned if I can remember what the song was.)

In other news, Goodbye Nashville Hello Camden Town: A Pub Rock Anthology will definitely make my Nashville Scene ballot reissue list, and Dr. Hook's Greatest Hooks probably will as well. Someday perhaps I'll spell out why, but not today. Neither album is perfect (the pub-rockers are sometimes so-what, and Dr. Hook is sometimes awful), but I love the great parts enough to make up for it.

And Edd's right -- Wagoner (especially now that he's passed away) and possibly Louvin both have a shot at winnning that poll, I guess. (I never actually heard either album -- didn't get copies in the mail, and I never found the energy to seek them out. Maybe I should have, but you can only hear so much stuff.)

Chuck Wicks album (out on RCA early next year, whoever the heck Chuck Wicks is) seems extremely dull, but, on first listen anyway, "When You're Single" is a warmly sung tune with a good fake calypso lilt to it and good bittersweet words about coming home to an empty house after the divorce.

Finally, I've learned to expect nothing out of the Drive By Truckers by now, "Bob" on the new album is a good talked one. (Wait, did I hear that right? "He used to watch 'Weeds' but he doesn't anymore"? Ha.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 9 December 2007 23:28 (seventeen years ago)

I meant Wagoner or Louvin possibly have a shot at winning the albums (not reissues) category, that is.

And to fix a few Ringenberg typos:

ONE great song... about black AIRMEN winning the war against Germany... there's a version of "Help THERE'S a Fire"

xhuxk, Sunday, 9 December 2007 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, on next listen, I realized that what the Bob in the Drive-By Truckers song doesn't watch anymore is the news, not "Weeds." Which makes more sense, though "Weeds" would have been a lot funnier. Still a really good song though, I think. (Bob also never got married, and still takes care of his mom.)

Also, it didn't take long after I wrote that Chuck Wicks was boring me that I noticed more songs on his album that don't bore me -- especially "She's Gonna Hurt Somebody", a catchy swinging pop-rocker (she's putting on her lip gloss and there's gonna be a heartache tonight and it hurts so good) and I think "If We Loved" (where Chuck sounds to me like Brooks & Dunn at the same time, unless one of them is doing a guest vocal). Maybe "Good Times," too. Having trouble stomaching the sap in "Man of the House" though (about a kid who fixes Cap'n Crunch and washes dishes for his apparently single mom when all the other kids his age are playing baseball or video games). And the scales still generally seem tipped toward big bland ballads full of icky emo.

xhuxk, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:23 (seventeen years ago)

(Actually the one title is "Good Time Comin' On.")

xhuxk, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

The Tuskegee Airmen were very belatedly honored for their part in winning WWII. Charlie Daniels Band's Deuces has some pretty good tracks, basically in their first-class bar band mode, covers and their personal chesnuts. No ZZ Top songs like on Tailgate Party, but "Jackson," with cool wailin' Gretchen Wilson, has a sleek stomp, a la ZZ. Descending bass notes rushed by tambourine-like rhythm gtr on "Signed Sealed Delivered I'm Yours," with Bonnie Bramlett. Yep, it's Charlie's duets set, and the expertly harnessed (not too tight) speediness is also in his voice, his nervous energy, though Gretchen and Bonnie (and Brenda Lee!So "Let It Be Me" is more poignant for the briskness)--they, Ah say, know how to soothe him just enough, bring out the brio over the brittleness, without getting in the way--like Vince Gill does on "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down"(eeeuuu). And the Scruggs brothers kinda do on "Maggie's Farm"; they should shut up and play, like Daddy Earl does. But Charlie and Darius Rucker have a fine time zinging the hapless, on "Like A Rolling Stone"--like Perez Hilton and Michael Musto, only with better lines. The joke's on Charlie in "Evangeline" "I hear your laughter in the rain"), with the Del McCoury Band, and Del himself sounds swell, in part because also like Elmer Fudd (a supporting role, and he knows it). "Long Haired Country Boy" is best of the superfluous, with Brooks & Dunn staying out if the way (but not too shy) of the don't-tread-on-me undercurrent. And the line about the preacher on TV goes fine before "God Save Us From Religion," with Charlie's fellow believer Marty Stuart (title line is from a "barroom philosopher," building a castle of cans, but Charlie and Marty concur) It's another okay superfluity, though, as is "Daddy's Fiddle,"with granny-as-urchin chirpin' Dolly; this could have been better with more actual fiddling. But rousing "Drinkin' My Baby Goodbye" with Montgomery Gentry, and there def should be more than one instrumental, "Jammin' For Stevie, " with Brad Paisley: Southern Rock guitars harmonize, then call and respond (mebbe they can get Keith Urban to pick some of that next time).Reminds me, do Volunteer Jams still occur, Edd?(They were usually if not always in TN, I think.) Oh yeah, and it starts with "What'd I say," featuring Travis Tritt, h'mm. But another Honorable Mention.

dow, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:29 (seventeen years ago)

<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y1nqMG3swOc";>"Merry Christmas from the (Natalie and Rosie) Family."</a>

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, sorry, here's the link.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago)

The reason I was doubting Miranda's victory is that there's always some Vince Gill or Rodney Crowell type who released an album I had no idea existed who ends up high on the list. But I'd be even more surprised by Louvin or Wagoner winning the poll (not that I've heard the albums).

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago)

Anyway, listening to lots of records in preparation for polls (both P&J and Idolator have Dec. 21 deadlines, don't know if I'll hear a copy of the LeAnn Rimes by then; based on the clips I'd say she's potentially Top 20 but not Top 10, but she could make my Nashville Scene list, but I've got 'til Jan 3 on that one).

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

Er, clicked "submit" too soon on the previous post. Listened to Lavette while doing the dishes and there's something too in one ear and out the other for me about that kind of soul, unless there's a strong hook. I'll try again. Nothing else in last weekend's listening is country as such (not even in the way that I insist that "See You Again" is country as such), but Paula Cole's "Courage" starts with a strong country drone guitar and a gospelly prayer that could easily be on any contemporary country singer's album. Excellent song, too. Well, musically; the words tend towards the abstract and platitudinous, but are fairly effective nonetheless. ("Lord make me an instrument to sing away the pain." Seems to me that some guy from Assisi said it more eloquently.) The album's basically adult contemporary, with jazz leanings, where it's generally at its worst, but it does well when it's leaning towards singer-songwriter rock; a good one called "14" ("My heart is a POW tangled in my chest/I don't know how to communicate in a cardiac arrest": That's bad poetry, but the sort of bad poetry I feel warmly towards, even if I could imagine someone like Xgau standing in the background and sneering at me for tolerating it).

Vanessa Carlton isn't country at all (unless your idea of country is Suzanne Vega), she's piano-lessons-and-lace girl poetry, but "Spring Street," the best track on her Villains and Thieves, has lyrics on a subject that's a current country obsession (Montgomery Gentry, for instance): kids leaving their parents and coming to understand how it is that their parents feel. Vanessa is as goopy about it as you'd expect ("I moved out of the city to start a family of my own/And when I look into my daughter's eyes I don't feel so alone/And as I walk her down to Spring Street and she holds onto my hand/Mother, you knew my eyes would be wet with tears and now I understand"), but this is a warm, gorgeous song, better singing than on recent Avril or Mandy or Michelle records. (Still trying to make sense of the fact that Carlton is on Irv Gotti's label. Ja Rule doesn't guest on any of these tracks.)

Tori Amos American Doll Posse, also not a country record, though as you've no doubt read she embodies five different personas on it: Fashion Girl and Preppy Girl and Country Girl and Glamour Girl and Boho Girl. Er, wait, that's Girl Authority. The roles Tori plays... um, I haven't figured them out, actually, though in one of the poses on the cover she's holding a rooster and looks more frightened than it does. Booklet has the lyrics in tiny colored type on a gray-green background and I can't make them out even with reading glasses and a magnifying glass. The music is clogged and ripe and arty no matter what role she's playing; I'm not really telling 'em apart, but when she goes to ring shouts and two-steps (e.g., "Big Wheel" and "Body and Soul"), she gets her whole overfilled Toriness swinging nicely.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

That Paula Cole song, the prayerful one that leads off Courage, is "Comin' Down."

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

she's potentially Top 20 but not Top 10

That is, LeAnn is potentially in my Idolator/P&J Top 20 but not my Top 10. No way is she placing in the Idolator or P&J Top 20, or Top 40, unfortunately.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago)

Speaking of Southern Rock (xpost Charlie D and friends, esp. "Jam For Stevie" with Paisley, and wondering if Volunteer Jams still happen), the latest newsletter from Hittinthenote.com (orig Allmans; fan mag/store, now branched out, with musos famous and esoteric, and some both)announces that they're now selling the first DVD of Marshall Tucker Band's original lineup, Carolina Dreams Tour 77, though what kind of shape they were in by '77 I dunno. (Mebbe Netflix will have it?) Intresting way of achieving realness effect is combination of cuteness and terseness in Chesney's song about "It's a bunch of shee-ftwork. Big pilie of shee-ftwork. Workin' 7 to 3, 3 to 11, 11 to 7, at the round the clock place." And when he finally saves enough money, he goes to party "at a round the clock place, 7 to 3..." So now he and/or his suppliers are studying the *better* Buffett songs. Reba and Kelly can barely peel their eyes away from each other in that video (distracts me from the song, but seems to fit the its context, basically)

dow, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

Lex says over on Poptimists:

<i>Tori's frightened expression = metric ton of botox innit.</i>

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

speaking of Marshall Tucker, the Jones Street Boys' "Oh Night" is a cooled-out version of one of those great Tucker twilight-falling songs like "Can't You See." Brooklynites with a feel for the novelty song, as "Argentina," about a loser who takes a boat to a South American country, or "Grand Canyon," which waffles on creationism re the work of God or the Colorado River. Overcome isn't half bad--they're kinda like the goddamned Avett Brothers (what hath the dumb deadpan of O Brother? wrought in terms of energetic bands of doofuses w/comedy routine songs?) but more commercial, at least to my ears. Danny Erker is a good songwriter, actually--this is fake-lonesome stuff complete with wistful harmonica parts and harmonies that aren't quite as loutish as they could be. Covers: Robbie Robertson's "Twilight" (OK) and John Hartford's "Tall Buildings" (perfect for these wistful, Mayberry RFD transplanted Midwesterners who now must toil in the Big City).

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

and, the Volunteer Jam has been going since '74, but Starwood Ampitheater closed down this year, so the Jam is a touring proposition these days, Charlie goes out w/the Tucker Boys.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

Cool!:

Burlington, MA – Rounder Records is pleased to announce that the multi-talented and dynamic 17 year old New Orleans-based fiddler, singer, songwriter, bandleader, and actress Amanda Shaw will be opening for country superstar Taylor Swift on January 25 at the Family Gras Festival in New Orleans, LA. Shaw, whose high-energy rock and roots sound is attracting an ever-growing audience, will be releasing her debut CD, Pretty Runs Out, on January 8.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago)

(Except it is not actually her debut CD.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago)

Reuters - Singer/songwriter Rosanne Cash has undergone successful brain surgery to correct a benign condition, and is expected to make a complete recovery.

The 52-year-old musician, the eldest of late country icon Johnny Cash's five children, is resting at her New York home, two weeks after her operation at New York-Presbyterian Hospital, said a statement from Manhattan Records.

She was diagnosed with a Type 1 Chiari malformation, a rare structural defect that affects the part of the brain that controls balance.

The EMI Group-owned label said Cash would return to the recording studio in early 2008 before hitting the road in the spring and finishing a book scheduled for publication in early 2009.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 13 December 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

have we talked about Wink Keziah & Delux Motel's Working Songs for the Drinking Class? Wink says that his dad "drove his car into a building trying to run me over" and his dad served time. He's from Charlotte, N.C. I think his voice is a bit marginal but he sounds a little drunk sometimes, and he and his band look pretty cool in the bar shown on the cover. "Hot Woman and a Cold Beer" is a good road song--he's grinding it out, and something about this is as, thankfully, generic as good BTO. Two great titles right together are "That Ain't Me" (he will not be a big star in Nashville, the millionth rewrite of "Act Naturally" except in reverse) and "You're Talking 'Bout Me," which has great harmonica and a nice steel break and some very well-executed feints with the harmonica making a foil for Wink's voice.
"You're talking about the way I talk, the way I walk/The way I watch TV," he sings, so domesticity has its problems for this road warrior. Anyway, I like this fine, and if someone got Wink to lay back just twenty percent and not yell so much in the general direction of the note, and he had a few better songs, he'd be real good.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 15 December 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Heard a good song on nu-country radio at work the other day, don't remember much of it except the chorus had a line like "the best drink you ever drank' or something - anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 16 December 2007 01:22 (seventeen years ago)

Finally listened to the Ike Reilly Assassination LP. His voice is weak and clogged up so he seems always pushing the music out of his throat. This works well on "Irish Eyes Are Burning," though I wish he wouldn't undercut himself by putting on a Dylan-Springsteen voice. It can't come across as anything but mannered. I like a couple more songs OK: "It's Hard To Make Love To An American" is slow, the voice weakens its swing, but the vocal strain gives the song an emotional push. I think the lyrics are humorous, but on one listen I didn't figure out the joke. "Bugsy Salcido" finesses the vocal question by being an instrumental. There were several more songs I liked, but the singing didn't break them through.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 16 December 2007 04:39 (seventeen years ago)

Found Gary Allan's Living Hard at the local library. It's good, of course, but at least initially it's not hitting nearly as hard as the previous three albums - this even though it's got three or four songs that kind of bash you on the noggin with the fact that they're really hard rock. Right now I'm listening to "Learning How To Pray" (not one of the rockers); he's doing an excellent job, swooping unpretentiously into an easy falsetto, twisting and bending words at the end of lines, and as on. But he's giving the song more than it's giving him. He's employing the usual set of good songwriters (three cuts have Odie Blackmon in the credits). Mark Wright is producing - one of Wright's skills is to dump a whole cartload of musicians into a track without losing the melody to clutter. But I think that on some of these Gary would be better off with less stuff in the tracks - less harmony, fewer steel guitars. I thought Tough All Over was at its most intense when sparest. And I thought See If I Care was best when he was easing along on nice little rock 'n' roll weepers. But on the rockers here his easy mastery is self-defeating, making him not commit to the ferocity of "Wrecking Ball" and "Living Hard." A track that really works for me is a "She's So California," a lighter rocker with California guitar licks and deceptively sweet little steel-guitar curlicues that form themselves into Chuck Berry riffs; "Like It's A Bad Thing," which has vague, platitudinous lyrics about living wild ("They say I'm proud of my scars/Each one tells a story, got guts and glory/Down to an art" [but notice the interesting rhyme scheme]), fortunately also maintains a good balance between spare buildup and jam-packed payoff. Another nice track is "As Long As You're Looking Back." Its lyrics are wanky - too much moral and not enough story - but the music has a good ominous quiet pulse, reminds me a bit of the Police's "I'll Be Watching You."

The words on this album bug me more than usual. He's always tended towards stock situations and standard ideas ("Alright Guy" being a great exception), but he's usually chosen songs that tell or at least hint at an interesting story. "Watching Airplanes" has a novel metaphor for romantic obsession (he's watching airplanes, trying to guess which one she's on, and why she doesn't love him anymore), but the rest of these (the rest where I noticed the words, at any rate) tend towards vagueness and simplicity. (I do like the series of metaphors in "Wrecking Ball": "She's a tornado, I'm a trailer house." "I'm a wreck, she's a wrecking ball." Etc.) It's a good album and the guy's a superb singer, but I always feel he could be greater.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 16 December 2007 05:17 (seventeen years ago)

Tried the Wreckers' Way Back Home: Live From New York City (the CD, not the DVD -- I almost never get around to watching DVDs; does anybody?), and mainly it makes me remember why I almost never like live albums since you can barely hear any of the songs, but at the same time it's clear that there are tunes buried underneath all the muffled, uh, live (at the Bowery Ballroom) stuff. Makes me realize I still need to hear their studio album from last year. Thought "Damn That Radio"'s rockabilly sounded especially promising. Detected some faux Fleetwood Mac potential here and there, too; how well do they pull that off in the studio?

Wrote this on the metal thread about a couple country-oriented tracks on (the otherwise often surprisingly good but not otherwise country) (though it is very oi!) TKO Records 2007 Free Sampler:

Antiseen (legitmately exuberant Bishops-like bulldozed hard pub-rock cover of Dave Dudley's oft-pub-rock-covered {see also '70s Brits Chilli Willi and the Red Hot Peppers and I believe '80s Aussies Celibate Rifles} "Six Days On the Road," and at album's end but not annotated on the cover there's also an oafish cover of David Allan Coe's "Longhaired Redneck" done GG Allin-style, i.e., words changed to "Scumbag," not sure who's doing that but I suspect it might be Antiseen too but the Dudley cover is better at least partly because in that one they don't toss out the tune or try to turn it into a joke that's not really funny)

Also wrote this, which I expect I'll expand on before long (there's a lot more than metal on that Truckers' album, of course -- and the "metal" generally means "Neil Young and Crazy Horse"):

there are plenty of parts I'd call "metal" on the great new Drive-By Truckers album (first one I've liked by them in years) and the upcoming album Breakfast Special by often-Count-Bishops-like upstate New York hard rockabilly greasers Finn and the Sharks (who cover Zep's "Black Dog" for instance).

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 December 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

faux Fleetwood Mac potential

I.e., vaguely Buckingham-like guitar part in "Tennessee"; general lush folk-rock sound elsewhere

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago)

Otherwise, I seem to have accidentally fallen into a bit of a rockabilly kick in general the past few days. For instance Stacie Collins, who I may have briefly mentioned before, and who has a kicking Georgia Satellites-doing-rockabilly type band (feat. ex Satellite Dan Baird), and the album actually could have been pretty great with a less shoestring production budget, and as is it's still really good. Best tracks are the most rockabilly, too -- "Long Gone," "Lucky Spot" (good man-chasing waitress song), "Baby Sister" (who if I heard it right is just out of jail and raring to go.) Elsewhere hard blues, boogie-woogie, Jerry Lee type hiccups, Hank type hiccups, etc, and only two slow songs (out of an economic 10) -- "Sorryville" and "Do You Miss Her," which are weepy and sluggish but still not bad.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/staciecollins

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=41759247

Devil Doll The Return of Eve ," is a lot raunchier and also kitschier, sometimes like a more dirty-minded but also more rock'n'roll Amy Winehouse, but I like it (and Devil Doll Colleen) better than Amy. Like Stacie Collins, so far at least, she seems best when she's most rockabilly, and she's got a band with the oomph to pull it off and make the rockabilly rock -- especially in the great apparent Old 97s cover (so says Lalena anyway) "Doreen," where Colleen seems to have been betrayed by a woman. "St.Patrick" starts slow, turns into fast cranking rockabilly, goes back and forth, and winds up sounding Irish. "Lord's Prayer" has a chorus that seems to go "God please don't fuck me on this one," the "one" being a guy, and in the next song "Sexy" Colleen gets fucked over by another guy, and switches back and forth between Courtney Love tantrum and lounge-jazz nostalgia, and it works better than you'd guess; "Heads or Tails" goes back and forth between sleepy and cranked to. And even the lounge jazz kitsch parts have musical weight to them, at least when the saxes come in. Also, "Man In Black" (related to "Girls in Black" off new album by Aussie AC/DC mimics "Airbourne"?) may or may not be about Johnny Cash, but sounds rather funky either way. Liking this album so far (Colleen and her band -- named for an X song, I gather? -- are rocking way more than they did on their first album a few years ago, or when I saw them live at Southpaw in Park Slope around then), but I need to listen to it more:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/devildoll2

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=952885

And finally, Finn and the Sharks. Wasn't crazy about the more recently recorded stuff on Built to Last, which I think I mentioned somewhere upthread, but apparently the stuff on Breakfast Special was recorded in the early '80s, and it so far it seems to be finding a fairly excellent middle ground between, say, where the Blasters were around that time (in more purist stuff like "Down For The Count") and where Motorhead had been a few years earlier (in more powerchorded stuff like "I Don't' Wanna Die Unknown.") Which is to say they can rock the rockabilly really, really hard and fast -- "Something Goin' On" and "Fed Up" are definitely Count Bishops worthy, maybe Johnny Burnette and Rock and Roll Trio worthy (though these guys are a quartet, not a trio). "At the Crossroads" works a good "You Can't Hurry Love" Motown rhythm and eventually whittles down to just the rhythm, which sounds really cool. Also, oh yeah, they also seem to do four-part harmonies in some songs. (The closer, track #20, unlisted on the CD cover, appears to be some kind of traditional gospel number about going down to the well.) And they do a good "Black Dog":

http://cdbaby.com/cd/finnsharks4

Finally, not to beat a dead horse, but I realized that when Montgomery Gentry neglect to go pick up a box of tampons in their version of "Merry Christmas From the Family," they pick up a box of Midols instead. So it's the same time of month, at least.

xhuxk, Sunday, 16 December 2007 23:55 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, it occurs to me that the hybrid Devil Doll is trying to pull off isn't far from the hybrid that Sarah Borges tried to pull of earlier this year. So far, I've been preferring the Devil Doll version.

xhuxk, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:58 (seventeen years ago)

...for instance, they both seem to be fans of X (a song by whom Devil Doll gets her name from, and whose "Come Back To Me" Borges covers.) But they both suffer from priveleging the lounge schtick over the far more fun pub-rockabilly shtick. I guess what gives Devil Doll the slight edge, to my ears, is a richer, more in-your-face voice, and a tougher, more grooving band (which may or may not be the same band that joined her on her less memorable first album, I'm now realizing). All told, she strikes me as less reverent, and also funnier than Borges. Which isn't to say that she doesn't also fade into the woodwork when she tries to get "jazzy," since she definitely does. But "The Curse" is a commendable Little Richard attempt, and "The Way You Do" and "Queen of the Road" are deep and visceral enough attempts at roadhouse blues (as in the Doors -- Devil Doll are from L.A., after all, and X covered "Soul Kitchen" and hung around with Ray Manzarek, remember) chugging. "The One That Got Away" stomps good, too, at least til it slows down, at which time, again, the sax sounds warm enough, and it's even got a pinch of squiggly new wave synth later. Not sure why her bonus track is a cover of "Fever" (would it've been possible to pick a more tired and obvious song?), and too bad "Sweet Lorraine" is not a Uriah Heep cover. Still, good album (and the lapsed Catholic motif doesn't hurt matters, though I notice it more in the trappings and song titles than in the actual music and songs--and X had their own confession booth and crucifix obssession of course).

xhuxk, Monday, 17 December 2007 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

And oh yeah, "St. Patrick" (one of the better songs on the album) opens with a tinge of reggae, as well. And, to the Devil Doll band's credit, all the myriad musical turns and shifts that the songs take manage to seem relatively seamless. (I should note here, though, that I may be slightly underrating Sarah Borges's band, the Broken Singles, in comparison; I thought their playing was more compelling than her singing, actually, and I believe I said so upthread.)

xhuxk, Monday, 17 December 2007 13:57 (seventeen years ago)

Next topic for discussion (but not for now; I have to get out the door): Why the Drive-By Truckers didn't end their new album after track 16, when the three songs (adding up to 15 minutes) that come after are probably the three dullest tracks on the whole record? I don't get it. Still, like I said, I like a lot of stuff on this album, and will talk about it eventually. (I'm wondering whether there may be one of their singers who bores me more than the other one(s), but I can never keep their voices straight. Also, this time they seem to have a gal singing a couple songs. She sounds pretty good.)

xhuxk, Monday, 17 December 2007 14:05 (seventeen years ago)

High voice: Patterson Hood (tallest, most prolific, guitar/some keys) Deep voice: Mike Cooley (most photogenic, guitar) female: Shonna Tucker (has sung bits of backup on prev. couple albums, like "Never Gonna Change", this is first time they've recorded her own songs, bassist)

dow, Monday, 17 December 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

Can't wait to hear the new one, but 19 songs? Sheesh.

Wonder how much the loss of Jason will hurt 'em. I'm hoping it's not a 13 by Patterson, 2 by Shonna, 4 by Cooley kinda thing. Patterson is great but when he's bad ("Careless," "Tornados," "Sands of Iwo Jima") he sounds like he's making up the melody as he goes along.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 17 December 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago)

Me on Black Angel's "One Beer" (which is not technically my favorite song of the year, or maybe even one of my ten favorite country singles of the year, but I really don't mind that much if the band says it is on their myspace page, which they now do):

http://paperthinwalls.com/feature/mixtape2007/?review_id=46

xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

I'd def cut some new Truckers songs, and start with "I'm Sorry Huston"--Shonna's voice and writing is lovely! What a shame she couldn't get the spotlight when Jason (now ex-hubbie) was in the band: h'mm, three or four each from her, from him, from Cooley, less from Patterson...ah well. Back in the realer world of wishes 9I'd also cut the songs between her "Purgatory Line" and P's "You And Your Crystal Meth." But (so far), I think I would/will keep the last three. "Away from the comforts of home, walk around this Monument Valley." Yeah, they should get of their trucks and other preoccupations more often.

dow, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago)

"are lovely" too, gees whizzes!

dow, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

Wait, I don't have my complicated song-by-song schematic here (I'll get to it eventually, I promise!), but why would you cut the Houston song (which I like -- is it really spelled Huston, though?) if her writing and voice is lovely, Don? I'm not following you....

"You and Your Crystal Meth" (track #16, right? and the last one that doesn't bore me) is at least short (like, not much over 2 minutes), and spare, and seemingly synthy--sonically reminds me of similar pleasant departures on the Replacements' Hootenany and Urge Overkill's Saturation, for some reason, though I'm not going to look up their titles right now. And it's about time somebody did a halfway decent crystal meth song. So yeah, that one would make my cut, though it's definitely not one of my favorites.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago)

Upon first listen (while doing other shit) Cooley's songs sound as great as expected...

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

I like the narrative energy of Brighter Than Creation's Dark (lousy title). They're taking a retrospective look at the scene that created 'em or at least Muscle Shoals, and probably the song that gets me the most is on "side 2," "Self Destructive Zones," in which they're "caught between a generation dyin' from its habits/And another thinkin' rock 'n' roll was new." Which might or might not reveal the limits of their own thinking, since that's a kinda great couplet but also simple-minded. Anyway, I like the discursive, fuzzy, hurtful tone of a lot of this, and the way the skein of the song is hung on a (to my ears) uninflected beat that turns out to be, I guess, just what they wanted to hang narrative on.

"I'm Sorry Huston" falls into the category of songs that almost work, but I mean Shonna oughtta project more. that might be the rub, they feel like they've earned the right to be suggestive. they reference John Ford and that's cool--another myth-maker in love with a very specific landscape. the populism seems earned enough, too--as on "The Righteous Path," about being marginally financially secure. I suppose the slide guitars and the general fourth-hand air of it all (recorded on two-inch analog tape, says here) say as much as the words.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago)

xpost, Black Angel's "One Beer": yeah, cool, and one beer for the Rossington-Collins Band too! If Dale ever did a duet with a guy. Jeez, xhuxx, you're always misreading me: I'd cut *to* "I'm Sorry Huston," and start the album with that.

dow, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

I'd also cut the songs *between* "Purgatory Line" and "You And Your Crystal Meth" and keep them: the scene we're in the midst of seems to be heading to some place worse than Purgatory, but so may Purgatory itself. Yeah, edd, the music supports and invades the words better than usual, even on P's songs (especially his, cos he's the one who always needs it most, and I think all my cuts are his songs). And yeah, Cooley's cool as usual. "Lisa's Birthday" deserves Merle, but doesn't need him; Cooley sounds fine.

dow, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

That is, the "Meth" scene we're in the midst of seems to be heading etc. etc.

dow, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago)

Posted this over on my livejournal:

<i>LeAnn Rimes Family: LeAnn delivers emotion from all angles and many genres. A deep warm diva voice that can hit peaks even from the middle of her range; problem sometimes is her taste for middling songs that are too fast to be ballads and too slow to be dance; another is that country producers will try to swathe her in too many countryisms. Except sometimes these aren't problems at all, as her voice sets mounds of sound in motion. Five total burners here: "Family" (a deep droner from mountain shades, becomes a brutal stomper when it hits the chorus), "Nothin' Better To Do" (crazy roughneck's daughter ignores Mama's advice, takes her idle hands to the devil's workshop, ends up rocking the jailhouse, as demonstrated in this excellent video), "Doesn't Everybody?" (voice of sad molasses tells us we want love), "Upper Hand" (swamp boogie; humidity doesn't dissuade LeAnn from throwing flames), "When You Love Someone Like That" (midtempo lament stokes sorrow).

Five scorchers are plenty for an album; the rest have her in good voice even when not to my taste. This is a definite on my country list and has a shot at P&J.</i>

(Also, not that this is relevant to country, but despite my having heard Girls Aloud's "Sexy! No No No" quite a few times and Nazareth's "Hair Of The Dog" many more, I didn't notice that the former samples the guitar riff from the latter until I read in Wikipedia that it did so. And even then I seemed to be suffering from the aural equivalent of red-green color blindness (though this was Sexy Hair Dog Differentiation Deficit), in that I still couldn't pick the riff out from its Girls Aloud surroundings for about ten more listens until I finally recognized it. Something about the Girls Aloud version seemed to have rejiggered tonal centers or rhythm in some way that created trouble for my attempts to locate the riff.)

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

Here's what my country year-end lists look like at the moment. Very tentative, and some of these I haven't played in months. I now possess the Little Big Town but haven't listened to it yet.

Singles:

1. Miley Cyrus "See You Again" (Walt Disney); 2. Taylor Swift "Teardrops On My Guitar" (Big Machine); 3. LeAnn Rimes "Nothin' Better To Do" (Curb); 4. Miranda Lambert "Gunpowder And Lead" (Columbia Nashville); 5. Reba McEntire f. Kelly Clarkson "Because Of You" (MCA Nashville); 6. Gretchen Wilson "One Of The Boys" (Columbia Nashville); 7. Eric Church "Sinners Like Me" (Capitol Nashville); 8. Sarah Johns "The One In The Middle" (BNA); 9. Rissi Palmer "Country Girl" (1720 Entertainment); 10. Tim McGraw "Last Dollar (Fly Away)" (Curb); 11. Carrie Underwood "So Small" (19 Recordings/Arista Nashville); 12. Sara Evans "If" (RCA); 13. Toby Keith "High Maintenance Woman" (Show Dog Nashville); 14. Big & Rich "Between Raising Hell And Amazing Grace" (Warner Bros.) 15. Sarah Buxton "That Kind Of Day" (Lyric Street)

Albums:
1. Miranda Lambert Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (Columbia Nashville); 2. LeAnn Rimes Family (Curb); 3. Ashley Monroe Satisfied (Sony Nashville) unreleased; 4. Travis Tritt The Storm (Category 5); 5. Brooks & Dunn Cowboy Town (Arista Nashville); 6. Gretchen Wilson One Of The Boys (Columbia Nashville); 7. John Anderson Easy Money (Raybaw/Warner Bros.); 8. Blake Shelton Pure BS (Warner Bros.); 9. Taylor Swift Sounds Of The Season: The Taylor Swift Holiday Collection (Big Machine); 10. Schultze Gets The Blues (Normal import) soundtrack; 11. John Waite Downtown - Journey Of A Heart (No Brakes/Rounder); 12. Carrie Underwood Carnival Ride (19 Recordings/Arista Nashville); 13. Richard Thompson Sweet Warrior (Shout! Factory); 14. Bettye LaVette The Scene Of The Crime (Anti-); 15. Van Zant My Kind Of Country (Columbia Nashville)

Reissues:
1. Neil Young Live At Massey Hall 1971 (Reprise); 2. The Stanley Brothers The Definitive Collection (Time Life)

(Schultze Gets The Blues seems to have come out in 2005 at the same time as the movie and then been rereleased this year.)

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 00:32 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, here's my song-by-song new DBTs CD schematic; if I prefer one of the singers to the other, it would be great if somebody could tell me; thanks:

1. "Two Daughters and a Beautiful Wife": Quiet, slow, passable enough melody; singing doesn't grab me. I assume the daughters and wife are surivors, and this a funeral song? But maybe I'm wrong.
2. "3 Dimes Down": "Stonesy," but in a fairly pro forma way. Quotes the title of Bob Seger's "Rock and Roll Never Forgets," I think. I love rock'n'roll, so this sounds okay to me, but kinda forgettable. No idea what it's about otherwise. Mentions a junkyard.
3. "The Righteous Path": Great. Cadence is totally Neil Young's "Rockin' in the Free World," but with more kick to it. The lines really snowball at you: Gotta whole lot of debt, gotta whole lot of beer, gotta stay focused. This is the main reason Don is wrong to wish the album started with the next song.
4. "I'm Sorry Huston": She does say Houston, right? My wife's from Houston, so I have soft spot for songs I think are about the city. Sounds pretty.
5. "Perfect Timing": Okay, nice, lackadaisical, ???
6. "Daddy Needs A Drink": Again, okay I guess. I can relate to the words. Singer does not put them over ---- wow, album doesn't sound "great" so far, does it?
7. "Self Destructive Zones": Yeah, I love this one too. Chords at the beginning remind me of "Lodi" by Creedence. Seems to concern nostalgia for 1990, if I'm hearing it right? The girls all took our posters down, and the boys all cut their hair, and eventually all the young folks turned to karaoke.
8. "Bob": Another great one; mentioned it up above. I've actually played this one a few times in a row. Talked lyrics, and I love all the details -- he had more dogs than he ever had friends, and he goes to church every Sunday when the fish aren't biting, and he's not afraid of women, he just has his own way to live, and every day his Mom hears about men who got taken away by other women, and he keeps her yard straight. I've met people like this. Not far from the character in Brad Paisley's dumb satire "Online" (which Xgau justifiably went off on Slate today), but here the character seems sympathetic. And human.
9. "Home Field Advantage" -- I assume this is Shonna again? She's no belter, but oddly, I really don't have a problem with her projection or lack thereof; strange, since Edd usually has a much higher tolerance for timid alt-country-style-folkie-demo voices than I do. But I'm not hearing her as having one. In fact, here I hear her as almost sounding like high-voiced guy, doing modern Nashville style hard pop, not far from James Ingram or Keith Urban.
10. "Opening Act" -- Thematically "Lodi" more than musically "Lodi," I guess; i.e., clearly about a struggling touring band, though it's okay because they're on the guest list in the next town? Or something like that. Slower than I wish it was, but salvaged by being pretty and even a little jazzy, and I like when it slows down into that talked part, and then when the singing returns it's dawn and the van's radio is tuned into a Christian radio station.
11. "Lisa's Birthday" -- Yeah, great honky-tonk saying hello to a bottle of Jim Beam, and I totally agree with Don's Merle comparison. "Lisa's had more birthdays than there are sad country songs about trying to love two women and taking one girl home."
12. "The Man I Shot" -- Excellent heavy repetitive Neil circa Re-Ac-Tor drone, about a murder.
13. "The Purgatory Line" -- Another Shona one? Um...
14. "The Home Front" -- Another one about survivors after a funeral, or are my notes messed up? Sorry; I guess I see some themes recurring here and there, but I always have trouble following concept album narratives, assuming what Edd's saying is true. This is okay, though, I guess. Mentions flat screen TVs; how many songs do that? Sounds sorta like "Everybody Hurts" by R.E.M., a song I've always hated almost as much as its retarded video, but this isn't awful. Album might well be better without it, though.
15. "Checkout Time In Vegas" -- Sad, okay melody, not memorable, and I'm starting to understand what Don meant about chopping songs between #13 and 16.
16. "You and Your Crystal Meth" -- See above.
17. "Goode's Field Road" -- Zzzzz.
18. "A Ghost To Most" -- Zzzz too, but at least I detect a sort of drone in this one, trying to lure me in, but too flimsy to actually pull said job off.
19. "Monument Valley" -- Zzzz, but vaguely pretty?

So yeah -- 10 songs probably would've been better (as long as they were the same 10 songs I'd pick.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 20 December 2007 02:13 (seventeen years ago)

Oops...JACK Ingram, not James. (Duh.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 20 December 2007 02:20 (seventeen years ago)

I really don't have a problem with her projection or lack thereof

On the other hand, you'll notice that exactly zero words Shona actually sang stuck with me. So maybe projecting more would be a good idea after all.

xhuxk, Thursday, 20 December 2007 03:07 (seventeen years ago)

"Bob" is about a typical good old boy--he loves his mama, keeps her yard cleaned up, takes her to the store. Really affectionate song. And "Perfect Timing" is a song about songwriting, the sources of their Art, etc. "I used to hate the fool in me/But now I tolerate him all day long." I'm still not quite sure I understand "I'm Sorry Huston" but it does seem to be about a guy and not the Texas city, since she sings "I promised Huston I'd try." I dunno. Like any band of veterans--I remember seeing them in Memphis in '98 or '99--they're about a way of playing as much as songs at this point, so the record kinda reminds me of the latest Wilco record as an exercise in pure style, which is indeed Exile-esque. Slightly out-of-tune, slightly oblique, turned in on itself. "And the pawn shops were packed like a backstage party" strikes me as self-referential in a way that suggests they think the party's really over. I don't get much sense that Spooner Oldham adds much to the thing, myself; it's a guitar record. (He didn't add much to their playing on the LaVette record, which I greatly admire but from a distance these days; what an arty record.)

The achievement of the record is that you really gotta listen to the words, and the words ain't bad at all. Very Southern, but they've Seen It All. Now I have to go put on headphones and really figure out what "Huston" is all about (not John Huston, certainly, altho that would make a nice complement to the John Ford reference, and maybe they've been watching Wise Blood on VHS when they're off the Road...?).

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 20 December 2007 03:22 (seventeen years ago)

I mentioned John Ford in a letter I wrote to Lollards today at their request (Brit radio show w/ Tom Ewing (who started ILM), Kat Stevens, Tim Hopkins (who sometimes posts here on rolling country), Mark Sinker; Elisha Sessions doing the engineering and reading my letter aloud (chosen to read it I presume because he's from the USA; did it very well)), said that John Ford did his best work at the end of his career and this seemed to make him different from modern-day popsters and rockers, who have trouble extending their talent beyond their late twenties. Anyway, at some point you'll be able to hear the show on podcast, which I'll want to do because when I was listening live there was an electric hiccup in my building, just long enough to cause my computer to reboot, and I missed most of Tim's discussion of Lori McKenna's "Unglamorous." Tim was saying that the song seemed to have three meanings going on at once without actually chosing one: that the narrator was celebrating her lack of glamour, that she was accepting and coping with her lack of glamour, and that she was bitter about her lack of glamour. That's when the electricity hiccuped, took me away from the show for several minutes.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 04:14 (seventeen years ago)

chosing one = choosing one

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 04:14 (seventeen years ago)

Rather unfortunately, our regular method for generating a podcast out of our little radio show didn't work out this week. I'll post up a link if we manage to find a podacast from another source.

Until that time I can claim to have been both interesting and well-informed.

Tim, Thursday, 20 December 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago)

(Question: Is it legal in Britain - as it isn't in the U.S. - to broadcast the uncensored version of "Girlfriend"? If not, you perhaps don't want there to be any recordings of the show.)

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago)

(um, why isn't it legal frank?)

CarsmileSteve, Thursday, 20 December 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

Frank this is Britain! The best-selling newspaper in the country has a topless lady on page 3 every day. And the BBC has just bowed to public outrage over the voluntary bleeping of certain words in "Fairytale of New York".

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 December 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago)

So here's the podcast if you're interested:

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/lollards-podcast/2007/12/freaky-trigger-and-the-lollards-of-pop-series-2-week-6/

Actually it's there whether or not you're interested. Obv be very careful about clicking on this if you are concerned about hearing sw34ry 4vril.

Tim, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago)

Is illegal in U.S. because it uses the word "princess" in a less than reverent setting.

(Seriously, the FCC will fine your ass thousands and thousands of dollars if you play the word "motherfucking.")

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

First listen to Little Big Town's A Place To Land. Am genuinely puzzled that Xhuxk and Chris like it so much, in that the four killer songs from the previous LBT alb kill anything on this. Didn't hear one I liked until the fourth track here (about poor Evangeline who suffers verbal absue in silence and denial) and I wasn't really whomped with emotion until the final two tracks: "Lonely Enough," where Karen Fairchild asks God to bring her dead lover back to life, and "Fury," where the band finally makes like the southern rockers they always have the potential to be. Maybe the whomping came from the cumulative effects of the rest, so more feeling to come on a second listen, perhaps. But Eagles and Fleetwood Mac were more scintillating in their California harmonies, and I still don't understand why Little Big Town choose to diddle around on acoustics when they've got potential monster hooks. I did enjoy the totally muddled theology. Seems to me that if you're the all-knowing and all-powerful God you would know what it is like to feel lonely, especially since Karen insists that the Almighty can do anything. (I myself can't figure out how an almighty being can know what it's like to be uncertain and lonely, but then I'm not an all-knowing being; maybe the big guy sent his son to feel such things and report back.) I was amused by Phillip Sweet's modest ambitions in "Vapor": "He was here only 33 years but his life changed the world/And he gave up all he had/I want to leave a legacy like that." Well, work on your harmonies and get some people to chronicle your life and maybe you'll have a shot.

Didn't notice any deliberately funny metaphors this time, nothing like the last one's "You plowed me like a tractor/And you used me up and put me out to pasture/And I'm left to eat your dust," though I wasn't following the words with great attention on this first listen, so I could have missed some. I think "Firebird Fly" - which rocks pretty well - was meant to be metaphoric or parable-like in an amusing way, but I didn't manage to get the gist.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

Wow, this might take a while, Frank, if I haven't explained why I like the album already, but I'm really shocked you don't like the opening co-dependency anthem "Fine Line", which might be my favorite song on the album not to mention the best Fleetwood Mac approximation ever, period, by anybody. I'm not going to diagram the verses now; only quote them, and say what mostly makes the album great is that it's soft rock that might rock harder (and with better melodies) than any hard rock I heard all year. Anyway:

completely complacent
So decidedly vacant
I keep waiting for something to give
But that something is
always me
You consume what you’re able
I get crumbs from your table
You call this comfortably normal
But I call it getting by
Baby, it’s a fine line
I’m holding on, you’re holding back
Baby, it’s a fine line
Can’t you hear me knockin’ at your door?
But you’re taking your sweet time

And so on...

xhuxk, Thursday, 20 December 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

(Well, okay, maybe it doesn't rock "harder" than the hardest-rocking parts of Flynnville Train or Trigger Renegade or Kid Rock or the Gore Gore Girls or American Dog or Ted Nugent or even a couple songs on Miranda Lambert's album. But I do think it rocks better, somehow. And those are all really good albums.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 20 December 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago)

still don't understand why Little Big Town choose to diddle around on acoustics when they've got potential monster hooks.

Because they can get hooks more monster than anybody else's around out of the acoustic diddling (and harmonies to go with it, and stuff?) And because they get as much energy out of those as when they go "Southern rock" like everybody else does (which is not to say they're not good at it -- "Fury" is great. The "harder" stuff is just not what makes them distinctive.) Anyway, looking over all my notes above about Little Big Town, I realize that maybe I'm haven't made a case for why I love them; I do a lot of "this song is cool because it reminds me of this old band" stuff, which I realize doesn't cut it. Someday I will, but probably not in the immediate future; I'd need to sit down with it and take notes more. Still my album of the year though. And I have to say that Frank's skepticism about it somehow reminds me of his initital skepticism about Guns N Roses' Appetite For Destruction (of all hair-metal bands, why pick them? They're just a blues band!), which wound up being his favorite album of the '80s. So I suspect he'll come around.

xhuxk, Friday, 21 December 2007 12:29 (seventeen years ago)

Ha, Leann Rimes "Nothin' Better To Do" on now; it's got comparable energy to the best tracks on Little Big Town's album (a real elephant stomp, may well make my Nashville Scene singles list), but doesn't have a tune comparable to the best tracks on Little Big Town. And unlike their harmonies, which generally hit me as really graceful, Leann's voice is maybe too heavy for the song; weighs it down somehow. Still good though!

And speaking of GnR, this has nothing to do with country, but has anybody pointed out that Britney's "Piece of Me" is sort of her version of GnR's "Get In The Ring"? A lot better though. But not nearly as good as "Positively Fourth Street," and it won't make my (overall) top 10 singles list because I like the idea of it more than I like the actual record; I feel like it's better in theory than in actuality. Also, I wish she enunciated the line "I'm Mrs. Extra Extra This Just In" better; that line was driving me crazy -- kept hearing it as "extra delicious icious" or some thing. (Honestly, maybe this is obvious, but who it really reminds me of is Eminem. They would have made a lovely couple. Can't think what song of his is the most obvious equivalent, though. And I have no idea why I'm posting this on the country thread.)

xhuxk, Friday, 21 December 2007 13:00 (seventeen years ago)

And okay (bringing it back to country), probably another one of my problems with "Piece Of Me" is the same problem I had with the Dixie Chicks' "Not Ready To Make Nice" last year, where you totally have to understand the artist's back story to understand the record. And I know, I know, it's fairly impossible not to know Britney's back story. But maybe that impossibility is what bugs me; maybe I wish I could get away from the back story. (And so does she, I'm sure, which is part of the song's point -- This gets complicated!) And maybe in five years I'll think "Piece Of Me" is as great as, say, "Public Image" (the lyrics of which, though, I'd say, are less dependent, specifics-wise, on knowing precisely who Johnny Rotten was, though maybe I'm wrong.) Also, I'm not sure why the "back story knowing" requirement never seemed to bother me with certain Eminem songs; on the other hand, it's not like I've really gone back and listened to those lately either, so maybe they weren't as great as I thought they were at the time. And I have no doubt that Britney is the real Slim Shady, all the other Slim Shadys are just imitating. But I'm still not voting for her single this year (or, so far anyway, searching out her new album to hear.)

xhuxk, Friday, 21 December 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

Xhuxk, that was never a problem for listening to Eminem, tho, was it?

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 21 December 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

Heh. I glossed over your post too quickly. You admit that.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 21 December 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

Question: Does anything /rock/ harder this year than Miranda Lambert, Grinderman, and Kala?

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 21 December 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

Sure, a few things, at least-- see a few posts up, and add in a Gogol Bordello or two to be named later. Among other things. Like, um, Joetown. And Witchcraft maybe? Etc. (But then, I didn't get Grinderman at all -- Sounded like Birthday Party to me, but not nearly as good. Sort of like Nick Cave's equivalent of that lousy new Stooges album. And Birthday Party's backwoods blooze codger schtick was always too sludgy to rock all that hard to begin with, to my ears.)

xhuxk, Friday, 21 December 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, a lot of that TKO Records compilation I mentioned a few days ago rocks pretty hard. (And yeah, I'm aware of the utter subjectivity and ultimate pointlessness of "this rocks harder than this" claims. Harder doesn't always mean better, anyway. Though sometimes it's still why I listen to stuff.)

Honestly, if I were to award a "hardest rocking album of 2007" award, it would probably go to American Dog's appropriately titled Hard--which, at last count, was my 45th favorite album of the year.

xhuxk, Friday, 21 December 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

The Ted Nugent album rocks pretty hard.

Country acts to make my Idolator/P&J ballot:

Miranda Lambert, Travis Tritt, Gretchen Wilson, Neil Young (if he counts as country; I put him in reissues), The Stanley Brothers (reissues).

And I voted Miley Cyrus in singles, though I'm not claiming she's a country act, just that the song is country.

Album I most wanted to hear but didn't get hold of: Kid Rock's.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 21 December 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

Country releases that made my P&J/Idolator ballots:

Albums:
Little Big Town A Place To Land Equity Music Group
Various Artists Motel Lovers: Southern Soul From The Chitlin Circuit Trikont
Flynnville Train Flynnville Train Show Dog
Taylor Swift Taylor Swift Big Machine
Miranda Lambert Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Columbia
Kid Rock Rock n Roll Jesus Atlantic

Singles
Tim McGraw Suspicions Curb
Toby Keith High Maintenance Woman Show Dog

Reissues
Charlie Rich – The Essential (Epic/Legacy)
(Various) – Goodbye Nashville Hello Camden Town: A Pub Rock Anthology (Castle)
(Various) – Dirty Laundry: The Soul Of Black Country (Trikont)
(Various) – Art of Field Recording: Volume 1 (Diesel + Dust)

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 December 2007 02:06 (seventeen years ago)

Unlike in previous years, I haven't gotten an email from the Voice acknowledging that my ballot went through. Have any of you guys gotten one?

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 22 December 2007 06:23 (seventeen years ago)

nope, Frank, no e-mail confirmation that my ballot went thru, guess it did.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 22 December 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago)

I think if you return to your link, and click on it after you've sent your ballot, it will give you a confirmation page where you can view your ballot. (I did that once when I filed a few days ago, but I have since deleted the email with the link on it.)

So, Joe Nichols's album, which nobody much mentioned here (I've always thought he was pretty boring myself), made K. Sanneh's Top 10 album list in the Times; Martina McBride's "Anyway" made his top five singles. (Acts on zero out of four album lists: M.I.A., Miranda Lambert. Act on four out of four albums lists: Feist. I wouldn't have predicted that.)

Having finaly temporarily gotten the need to keep up with current music off my back now that I've filed my year-end ballots (not my Nashville Scene ballot yet, but that can wait a little), I am playing all old-used-vinyl-that's-been-stacking-up while wrapping presents today. Just played: Sir Douglas Quintent's excellent Border Wave (which has a song called "Sheila Tequila," not to be confused with "Tequila Sheila" on the current Flynnville Train album. Also Kinks and 13th Floor Elevators covers, and soul music, and a couple good songs about the border.) On now: Joe "King" Carrasco & the Crowns' Synapse Gap/Mundo Total, which I am liking though not as much as his first couple LPs.

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 December 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

Kind of surprised Xgau gave that '82 Carrasco album an A-! The synthy '80s touches and slowed tempos and too-much-reggae definitely mark an energy dip from the crazed Tex-Mex on the first Crowns LP from '80 and the '78 El Molino LP to me, but Bob says it's just as good. Maybe just needs to grow on me a little.

Played Rosie Flores's '87 Reprise debut, another Xgau A-, after that. First side struck me as strongly sung but fairly generic; didn't seem to put over much of a personality. Energy really kicks in on side 2, though, especially the train rhythm in "Heartbreak Train," which reminds me of Roseanne Cash's "Runaway Train." Good record, but a real side-splitter (not in the sense that it's funny, but in the sense that it's, um, split via its sides.)

Jean Knight My Toot Toot, Mirage '81, next. First side's great -- "My Toot Toot" (better than the Rockin' Sidney version), "One Monkey Don't Stop No Show," semi-rapped "Mr. Big Stuff" update, "Let The Good Times Roll." Side two starts with a "Toot Toot" sidealike, and then Jean opts for the sort of electrofied '80s pop production that sold for Aretha and Tina and the Pointer Sisters. Interesting, I guess. Just not as good as the less '80s sounding cuts. Still, the best album of these three, I think.

Now S.O.S. Band Just The Way You Like It, 1984. Maybe Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis should have produced the second side of that Jean Knight album; i.e., this sounds just as mid '80s, but way less clumsy. "Weekend Girl" is great! Guy asks her out on a date, but she says nope, not during the week, because she has a job and needs to sleep at night. But dinner and a movie on the weekend will be okay!

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 December 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

(Oops, that Jean Knight album is '85, not '81.)

Mother's Finest, Mother Factor from '78 on now. Sounds flimsy, like they were trying to go pop-funk, and not great at it. (Not hooky enough, and nothing distinctive about the singing or anything else.) Their metal stuff was apparently earlier.

But this is moving away from country now; sorry...

xhuxk, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

Anyone else diggin' the Dwight Yoakam album where he covers all Buck Owens tunes?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 22 December 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago)

Finally have gotten ahold of the Kid Rock. I'm truly torn as to whether I can count it as a country album. There's one track that's definitely country - though too rough for country radio - and several more that are the sorts of tracks that make it as nonsingles on, say, Shooter Jennings albums.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

The sorts of <i>sleaze-rock</i> tracks that make it as nonsingles on, say, Shooter Jennings albums, that is.

And then there's "So Hott," that if I could rationalize it as remotely country would easily make my country singles list, but I can't rationalize it as remotely country. (Sounds like <i>Funhouse</i>-era Stooges taking on massive Deep Purple riffs and Slade poppiness and echo effects, as a goof. I love it.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 02:41 (seventeen years ago)

This time with the correct coding:

The sorts of sleaze-rock tracks that make it as nonsingles on, say, Shooter Jennings albums, that is.

And then there's "So Hott," which if I could rationalize it as remotely country would easily make my country singles list, but I can't rationalize it as remotely country. (Sounds like Funhouse-era Stooges taking on massive Deep Purple riffs and Slade poppiness and echo effects, as a goof. I love it.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 02:43 (seventeen years ago)

What's the 'rap' to 'non rap' ratio on the album, Frank?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 23 December 2007 02:52 (seventeen years ago)

Not much rap; two or three songs with raps in them, none rap all the way. (Except I was half asleep when I listened, so my recall isn't perfect. So maybe there were more raps. Or fewer.) It's a rock album, basically.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 03:36 (seventeen years ago)

You guys need to give me ideas as to what to put on my Scene ballot as best country songwriters and best new acts in country. For that matter, whom are you going to list as best duos-trios-groups?

For best songwriters I could put Taylor Swift, Miranda Lambert, and after that I don't know. Maybe Sarah Buxton, who co-wrote Keith Urban's "Stupid Boy," which I love, and her own "That Kind Of Day," which is nice, and beyond that I have no idea what she's done. (Well, the BMI site lists 42 songs by her, but they make it a real pain in the ass to find out who performed which songs when you search by songwriter, so I don't know whom she's worked with.)

When they merit it I do like to vote for people who write for others, but I don't have much of an idea who wrote what.

Sarah Johns and Rissi Palmer are the only new acts I can think of right now. Who else is new?

For duos, trios, or groups the only ones who come immediately to mind as possible ballot picks are Brooks & Dunn and Little Big Town and Big & Rich (I mean, yeah, Montgomery Gentry were on the charts with singles from last year's album, but not really with a this-year's impact on me). However, I don't really want to reward Big & Rich for a mediocre year.

But I could put Rich in my songwriting category for his work with Gretchen Wilson and John Rich. However, Rivers Rutherford was on the credits of more of the songs of hers I loved than Rich was. Maybe I'll vote for Rutherford as a songwriter, if I find out what else he did this year. The John Rich tracks on the Anderson album are consistently good.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 03:40 (seventeen years ago)

Rivers currently has the following songs climbing up the country charts: "These Are My People," performed by Rodney Atkins,"I Got More" by Cole Deggs & The Lonesome, and "Sunday Morning in America" by Keith Anderson.

Several years ago he wrote my favorite Brooks & Dunn song, "Ain't Nothing 'Bout You." And this year he wrote Rihanna's hit single "Shut Up And Drive," the one that uses the riff from "Blue Monday." Er, no, he wrote Chely Wright's "Shut Up And Drive."

(Here is 30 seconds of his demo for "Ain't Nothing 'Bout You." Brooks & Dunn (and Mark Wright etc.) came up with a much more interesting rhythm than he did, but he wrote a good song, and the steel-guitar riff is on his demo too.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 03:58 (seventeen years ago)

Did you guys get your Scene ballots? Does that mean I've been officially de-certified? AWESOMES.

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 23 December 2007 04:16 (seventeen years ago)

Who else is new?
For duos, trios, or groups....

Seems to me Flynnville Train, Cole Deggs and the Lonesome, and Halfway to Hazard are eligible for both of these categories. (Jason Michael Carrol as a new act springs to mind, too. And Luke Bryan, maybe? Was that a debut record? Though those two might not be good enough, and Frank may well think Halfway to Hazard and Cole Deggs aren't good enough, either.)

And yeah, Kid Rock's album only has one really country song, and only slightly more rap. But I'd also say his rock songs have tinges of both rock and rap (the latter since his vocals as often as not work as rhythm). I guess if I left him off my country ballot it could clear room for somebody else, but by now I figure he qualifies as country (besides the fact that he does occasional country songs and appears as a presenter on country award shows and is apparently pals with Hank Jr and Gretchen etc.) by mere virtue of pretending to be Bob Seger (and doing it better than Bob Seger has in a quarter-century), if nothing else. These days, the only mainstream genre where it's possible to pretend to be Bob Seger is country. (And Kid's music in general sounds closer to Flynnville Train's -- or, yeah, Shooter Jennings's --than to, say, Fall Out Boy's, to my ears. Hard to think Shooter wouldn't qualify for a country ballot just because he's absorbed some hair-metal. Hell, these days Bon Jovi is country. What's the difference?)

xhuxk, Sunday, 23 December 2007 04:35 (seventeen years ago)

I see that Josh Love mentioned Sarah Buxton upthread; she had an EP this year, and a couple of singles. From her Website:

"I suggest EVERYONE sit down and try to write a quick and honest assessment of their life. Can you say 'therapy'?"

"I never had a problem making friends, but I did spend a lot of time feeling like I didn't fit in. I wasn't cute and I didn't like P.E. class..."

(Calling Brie Larson.)

"Stevie Nicks' lyrics were like poetry, so I started to write poetry of my own... full of angst and confusion, mainly related to my poor mother."

Four of the five songs from her EP are up on her MySpace page, including "Stupid Boy." Her version is pretty great, really emotional, though the one by Keith Urban has that extra frisson when you realize that Keith as narrator is directing the song at himself, implying that he himself is the stupid, critical, spirit-destroying boy.

Great line from "That Kind Of Day," inspirational verse for compulsive debtors and spenders everywhere: "When times are tough it's time to shop/And your credit card will buy a lot/What's another bill to pay/When it's that kind of day?"

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 04:39 (seventeen years ago)

xp

I meant Kid Rock's "rock songs have tinges of both country and rap."

xhuxk, Sunday, 23 December 2007 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

Matt, I'll send you a copy of a ballot. They do it all by email, none of those electronic gizmos that Idolator and the Voice use to keep out imposters. If you send one in, Geoff will probably think he sent you one. Maybe he did, and it just never made it to your inbox.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 04:45 (seventeen years ago)

(You're right Xhuxk, I am liking the Little Big Town album more today than I did yesterday. But remember, I was the first kid on my block to hate Crosby, Stills & Nash, and when "Take It Easy" hit I felt the same hatred for the Eagles that Xgau famously did. (I later was won over by "New Kid In Town" and "Lying Eyes" and "Life In The Fast Lane.") So I definitely have a number of James Taylor Marked For Death moments when listening to Little Big Town.)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 04:49 (seventeen years ago)

Jon Pareles: "Leslie Feist's gracious voice make 'The Reminder' a pop album, but never a shallow one."

Jeesh.

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 05:15 (seventeen years ago)

(M.I.A. got a singles pick from Pareles. The only overlap between my ballot and the four Times lists was both me and Sanneh voting for Linda Sundblad's "Lose You" - though I did vote for the Rihanna album, and a couple of the Times critics chose "Umbrella."

Two Times picks for the Krauss/Plant (from Ratliff and Pareles).)

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 23 December 2007 05:32 (seventeen years ago)

No, you're right, Frank -- Little Big Town are not as good as Fleetwood Mac or the Eagles at their best. But then, nobody else in 2007 was either, so when it comes to picking the best music of the year, not being as good as Fleetwood Mac or the Eagles is sort of a moot point. (Also, those co-dependency lyrics of "Fine Line" I quoted above are sort of mush. But I like them anyway, and I especially think the "I'm holding on, you're holding back" dichotomy is pretty clever, and the line about "You consume what you'e able/I get crumbs from your table" sort of turns Michael Jackson's they-eat-off-you-you're-a-vegetable on it head, and as with the other songs I love on the Little Big Town album, I hear plenty of hooks in the emotion and emotion in the hooks. (And someday I will die without understanding why so many people hate the Eagles so much, and even then I will believe that what's hated is what they theoretically stood for, and has nothing to do with their music.)

Other country artists who put out good albums this year who may or may not qualify as "new" for Nashville Scene ballot purposes: Lantana, Sunny Sweeney, Laidlaw, Glenn Stewart, Pete Berwick, Daniel Lee Martin. Lantana and Laidlaw would also qualify as "duos, trios, or groups." But with that list, I'm not sure off hand if all the albums those people put out this year were debut albums. (I could check, but I don't have time.) Weirder, though, is the fact that even if they are debut albums, they might not qualify, since the Scene poll defines a new artist as "any artist whose first album with national distribution (i.e. on a major label or on a major independent such as Sugar Hill, Rounder, Bloodshot, etc.) was released in 2007." Since a few of those acts put out albums that apparently don't have major label distribution, maybe they have to wait until later in their careers to qualify as "new"! Which doesn't mean I might not vote for one or two of them anyway. (I voted for Bomshel as a new artist last year, and they're a group too, but their album never came out. And then there's Sarah Borges and the Broken Singles -- she may or may not qualify as her own, or as part of a group, not sure.)

Another thing that makes Kid Rock country: One of the songs on his album steals its riff from "Sweet Home Alabama." And in 2007, music that sounds like Skynyrd is more country than rock by definition, even though it probably rocks more than rock does.

xhuxk, Sunday, 23 December 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, though, come to think of it, there is at least one band whose 2007 album I never got around to hearing that may have been as good as the Eagles at their best, and that is, duh, the Eagles themselves. If their previous full studio album The Long Run had come out in 2007, it probably would have deserved a spot on my top ten, so who knows, maybe someday I'll hear The Long Road Out Of Wal-Mart and be surprised. Not that I really expect that, but the song I saw them play on the CMA Awards seemed halfway decent, actually. (Best Billboard headline I ever wrote, fwiw: "Life In the Express Lane.") And come to think of it, there still is much to despise about the people in the Eagles. (Well, except Joe Walsh; I can never hate him.) But I've never seen how that's stood in the way of their music (which may well stink now.)

Album that came out in November which might possibly have qualified for some of my 2007 country lists (including new act and group categories) had I heard it earlier, but I didn't hear it until this week, so I think I'll save it for my 2008 lists instead: A Million Yesterdays by Mechanical Bull. Myspace below; more comments one of these days, no doubt:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=87087289

xhuxk, Sunday, 23 December 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

looking back (and spending yesterday listening to some truly weird mid-'60s/late-'60s Nashville Liberal Art Music--Bobby Bare '66 song suite w/ Jack Clement called A Bird Named Yesterday and John D. Loudermilk's Open Mind of J.D. Loudermilk, the latter where Loudermilk sounds like the guy from the Beau Brummels [who recorded in Nashville], while the Bare is also folk-rock w/ recitations inbetween where Bare plays Everyman and the songs are about the Corporations coming to town), I voted for Elizabeth Cook's "Balls" and Miranda Lambert's "Famous in a Small Town" as singles; the albums themselves just seem overrated to me now. Lambert's is listenable, more so than Cook's, but neither one ultimately makes it for me, altho Lambert's does indeed "rock." I dunno, it just seems simulated to me, meta-music or something like that.

Borges made one pretty fair record previous to her Sugar Hill effort, on Blue Corn label. Sarah Johns gets my vote for best debut record, though--she looks like a waitress and sings like one and that's fine and even sexy and good enough for me.

Jim Lauderdale's Honey Songs has some ferocious pickin' from the likes of James Burton. Lauderdale's a good songwriter, a bit thin in the vocal dept. Chalk this one up to honorable genre effort.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 23 December 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

re Yoakam, the No Depression reviewer did his and the Derailers' Buck tributes together, giving Dwight the nod. I haven't heard it. But the Derailers do well by Owens, real well, sound just like him. I like it. And yeah, I despised "Take It Easy" even when I was a teenager; I despise the Eagles except for Joe Walsh, right, but do like not "Lyin' Eyes" (which isn't bad cocaine music) but "Take It to the Limit," their best single ever, country-soul at its most deracinated. Beyond that, and maybe shit like "James Dean," I hate 'em, hate their spirit--only a fool would deny that they made great records or were (are) great players and singers.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 23 December 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think I've ever hated a performer where my hatred didn't have something to do with what he or she stood for.

My Idolator ballot, if you're interested. My ballot's rather hate-free this year.

Edd, I've complained a bit about the Miranda Lambert lyrics (and voice too, I guess) containing stock characters, and nothing on this year's Lambert is as touching as 2005's, so I'm guessing I have a sense of what you mean about "simulated"; but the driving rhythms and the fierce singing and the tunes and the songs and the wit of the lyrics overcome my wishing for something warmer. "Down," "Guilty In Here," and "Getting Ready" are a great blazing, brooding three-in-a-row to almost close out the album.

Just realized that if I'm going to vote for Ashley Monroe's unreleased album this year, I can also vote for her as best new artist; I voted for her single "Satisfied" last year, when it was actually promoted to radio.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 24 December 2007 05:03 (seventeen years ago)

(I meant to say that Miranda's driving rhythms etc. overpower my wish for something warmer - or, for that matter, overpower my liking for something warmer, e.g. the LeAnn Rimes album, which just doesn't have enough great songs to beat Miranda. But I would have liked the Miranda album itself to be warmer. It's still better by a good deal than her previous album, despite that one's warmth.)

Frank Kogan, Monday, 24 December 2007 05:07 (seventeen years ago)

>>Honestly, if I were to award a "hardest rocking album of 2007" award, >>it would probably go to American Dog's appropriately titled Hard-->>which, at last count, was my 45th favorite album of the year.

C'mon now, how do you tell? Are the distinctions in centiles? Ergs? I thought five or six years ago I should keep a piece of paper in my pocket and put a strike on it beside the name of every album I played for every play. Then I figured I could do it my head.

You should know that one piece of working scientific wisdom concerning memory handling and numbers, is that if you're among the best, you can keep seven in your head at one time. And if you can do that, you're good abstractly and logistically with numeric values and their places in slots. It also jives with the way I have always filled out my end of year ballot, which was to go with the things I played the most. And that filled out 70 percent of a Top Ten with little error every time.

But 45? You're a way better listmaker than I.

And, no, I didn't get no confirmation from VV on the net interface, to answer a different question.

Plus American Dog's Hard made my Top Ten even though no one would let me review it. Big surprise.

Gorge, Monday, 24 December 2007 05:54 (seventeen years ago)

>>Two Times picks for the Krauss/Plant

The knee-jerk ass-kissing of the upper middle class music journalist. How did John Waite get no credit? Someone might have noted that as for duets with a rock singer, Krauss was definitely second class next to Mr. Waite.

Gorge, Monday, 24 December 2007 05:58 (seventeen years ago)

Gorge, you could prob get Rob to check on your ballot; I did that last year, and he responded pretty quickly. If Assholes, haven't heard the whole Dwight singing Buck set yet, but the tracks I've heard sound like a natural fit, and pretty sure the single, "(I Don't Care) As Long As You Love Me," will be on my Scene ballot. Xhuxx, I think the Big Machine re-release of Sunny's album happened around the first part of this year or close enough, Himes ain't gonna fine you, and even if he does, she's worth it. Frank, what are your thoughts on the Neil Young live album you've apparently committed to, or do we have to wait for publication?

dow, Monday, 24 December 2007 06:25 (seventeen years ago)

I'm sure it's fine. If not, que sera sera.

Gorge, Monday, 24 December 2007 08:10 (seventeen years ago)

a few of those acts put out albums that apparently don't have major label distribution

I meant "national" distribution here, not "major label" (as Geoff Himes expressly stipulated "major independent" labels.) Doesn't matter anyway; I gave my three "new artist" votes to Flynnville Train, Cole Deggs & the Lonesome, and Sarah Johns, all of whom do have actual major label distribution.

how do you tell? Are the distinctions in centiles? Ergs?

Nah, the metric mainly tends to revolve around quantitatively verifiable measurements such as "hunches." But I'm the guy who wrote Stairway to Hell, remember; I've been doing the "is the 343rd best album or merely the 344th best" thing forever -- doesn't even take that long if you, say, keep a running tally through the year, then print the list out, maybe at the end do some half-hearted relistening, then decide "Travis Tritt seems like he should be higher" or "Einsturzende Neubauten seem like they should be lower" (both of which actually happened this year.) And of course, five minutes after I send such a list in, I'll inevitably second-guess it. But that's my own neurotic cross to bear.

the way I have always filled out my end of year ballot, which was to go with the things I played the most

Yeah, that's more or less how I do it too -- though "how much sticks with me from the last time I played it" and "how much do I like what stuck with me" figure in too. Anyway, the "records I played most" rule is what Lester Bangs always claimed to have done with his top 10 ballots, too, and now I actually get the idea (esp. with singles lists) that the method is becoming more popular, since download and social networking sites frequently do keep precise count of how many plays X and Y tracks get. But that just seems cold and clinical to me -- seems like it would take the fun out of a list. At very least, I should have the leeway to guess what I played most, and fudge a little.

xhuxk, Monday, 24 December 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

I think, back when I played more for recreation than review-bait, some things were mainly default: not that I didn't continue to enjoy them, not that they were just background music, though they could (usually)work as background music, because they weren't too involving, just like they weren't too boring--and judging by how many items are so very handy for such default, at least for a while, it seems like a favorite aspect of marketing, a favorite of major and minor labels (not the only favorite, caos you gotta have the OMG Elvis Beatles etc to reboot overall interest periodically)

dow, Monday, 24 December 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago)

Caroline Kennedy, promoting her Christmas book on MSNBC, showed a letter from JFK, to a little girl who worried about Santa getting nuked over the DEW Line: "I just spoke to Santa, he's fine." (Quoted by Barry Goldwater, during the Cuban Missle Crisis: "So you want this fucking job.") Ho-Ho-Ho, 1962 was a fine time to be a child, or an anything, as I am reminded by th hovering tremolo of Roebuck Staples' guitar, of the Staple Singers' blues gospel harmonies, on re-issued The 25th Day of September. Foreboding and joy, and the pleasures of warmth in winter, of light from the GE bulb in the crib. The spookiest, slowest, most savored-by--Mavis "Go Tell It On The Mountain" ever.Get it while you can, thouh also good to know their music was still developing, some hits ahead. But right now, this is good. Mostly p.domain I hadn't heard of, arr. by Roebuck Staples, who also adjusts "O Little Town of Bethlehem","Silent Night," Thomas Dorsey's "The Savior Is Born," and some R. Staples originals. Saw Toby Keith and Miranda Lambert do a pretty good "Go Tell It On The Mountain" (in the familiar, more upbeat tempo)with Miranda Lambert on CMT, an except from his Christmas special.

dow, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 01:21 (seventeen years ago)

Frank, what are your thoughts on the Neil Young live album you've apparently committed to, or do we have to wait for publication?

Not many thoughts. 1971, back when Neil wrote good melodies all the time, sang in the same quaver he did before and does now, "Down By The River" sounds just as bent on acoustic as it does on electric, "Ohio" got long sustained applause, the last two remind me irrevocably of high school, this much madness is too much sorrow, four dead in o-high-o.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 02:23 (seventeen years ago)

Top 10, Z-100 in New York
LW TW Artist Title TW lw +/- Reach/Mill
4 1 RIHANNA Don't Stop The Music 95 74 21 8.7413
2 2 ALICIA KEYS No One 92 95 -3 8.5443
1 3 CHRIS BROWN Kiss, Kiss (f/T-Pain) 78 95 -17 6.9371
7 4 MILEY CYRUS See You Again 78 57 21 7.4272
11 5 ENUR Calabria 2008 (f/Natasja) 63 43 20 6.0612
5 6 PARAMORE Misery Business 62 62 0 5.9815
6 7 FERGIE Clumsy 57 60 -3 5.4613
10 8 FLO RIDA Low (f/T-Pain) 51 44 7 4.5005
13 9 JORDIN SPARKS No Air (f/ Chris Brown) 49 40 9 4.4648
12 10 JORDIN SPARKS Tattoo 48 43 5 4.2235

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 05:51 (seventeen years ago)

(Er, meant to post that on Rolling Teenpop, not here; but note Miley at number 4.)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 05:52 (seventeen years ago)

I finally really attended to Cole Deggs' record. The song about how he's got to get his woman back from Florabama beach to Texarkana truckstop--but he allows as to how he ain't got nothin' against Alabama per se, but he would like her back if you don't mind, and I will kick 'Bama's ass if it comes to it--is choice.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

murder, insanity and terminal loneliness are all bubbling under the 5 John Anderson reissues from Collectors' Choice. fills out his '80s WB stuff, with John Anderson, 2 and Wild and Blue already out there. except for Countrified, obviously cobbled together from what they had lying around (and with a cover of a Tony Joe White song about sex with the aid of garter belts that might show the limits of Anderson's poetic erotics), all great records. I Just Came Home to Count the Memories really establishes his distance from his roots and rolls out one piece of haunted Southernism after another; definitive New Traditionalism with brains. All of the People Are Talking is his pop move, and the closest I can get to an analogous record is Lee Dorsey's Night People, where the geniality is mixed with something colder and even saturnine, yet the pop moves are totally assured. Tokyo, Oklahoma is his, I guess, Tallulah (with All the People his 16 Lovers Lane)--more distance, more quick narrative, and, hard to judge in such a consistent artist, but perhaps his greatest song ever, "Down in Tennessee." There are hints of George Jones and Levon Helm in his singing, but you get the sense that Anderson is just laying back so that he can stretch out every now and again and surprise us. This is some of the most perfectly judged singing in country history, in every respect, on these records.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

now, why'd you have to make that Go-Be's analogy???

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, so, a whole buncha ketching up to do:

KIM RICHEY: Took me months to get to it, but Chinese Boxes is really really pretty, and Kim still manages one of the clearest pure-pop guitar jangle-melody sounds on the planet. I like when her lyrics free up and get a little less straightforward, like when she compares somebody to "chinese boxes, one inside the other" in the title cut (which is probably my favorite cut, just great clippity-clopping upbeat summer pop), or when she starts out "I Will Follow" (not the U2 song) with "I saw you in a dream I had/Doing dishes at the laundry mat." "Not A Love Like This" verges on rockabilly (and sounds good doing it), but most of the songs are slightly slower. But except in rare cases where they start to drift a bit too listlessly (for example in "Drift," the title of which at least suggests a self knowledge about it), they're lovely and often really sexy in a grown-up way. "Something To Say" ranks with the most effective sad songs I heard all year, too. One of the best singer-songwriter records I heard in 2007 (also, short -- just ten songs), and Metal Mike Saunders is a fan (he's said he hears Tom Petty in Kim's sound before, which makes sense), so she's not pretentious, either!

WILLIE NELSON -- Tracked through his new one, which is produced by Kenny Chesney of all people. I like his cover of Big & Rich's (mostly Big Kenny's, I assume) "The Bob Song" (from B&R's unjustly ignored Super Galactic Fan Pack EP from a few years ago) -- song's kinda dorkey, about how we're all eccentric monkeys in our way; I can see Jimmy Buffet fans who fancy themselves being free-thinkers when they're on vacation from their investment banking jobs enjoying it, but it makes me chuckle anyway (and I don't even like margaritas). Willie also covers Randy Newman's flood song "Louisiana" and Dylan's born-again song "Gotta Serve Somebody" -- competently, I guess. They're both good songs; he's a good singer even if he does sing almost every song exactly the same (which is one reason I never connect with his albums, probably.) But I said almost: He actually employs his rare low register when interpreting the Dave Matthews Band's "Gravedigger" (which tracks from their gravestones the birth and death years of three apparently unrelated individuals who died in the 20th Century, and they all ask to be buried in shallow graves so they can feel the rain, and then there's a ring-around-the-rosey-pocket-full-of-posies plague part); Willie probably improves the song, but I haven't heard DMB's version in years (and only once or twice then), so I'm not really sure. It's okay, I guess; interesting words. (I've always assumed Matthews is a smart guy; he's just never made me care about his smartness.) Beyond that, not much on the Willie album drew me in -- there's one sort of jazzily sung and instrumented cut in the middle (maybe "Keep Me From Blowing Away"?) that had some jauntiness to it, and "When I Was Young and Grandma Wasn't Old" is a halfway decent memory song....but beyond that, shrug. Given all the covers, I'm wondering whether this a Johnny Cash style critical respectability for the country legend move. If it is, I guess it's not an awful one. But I can't imagine I'll be playing it again.

CHUCK WICKS -- This one grew on me. "If We Loved" has lyrics that are vague utopian bullshit about how much better the world would be if we all got along, but it's got a melody worthy of a great Brooks & Dunn ballad, and singing to match. "Good Time Comin' On" is a sexy song about taking a summer road trip with a girl you're just getting to know and making moves on her while you're driving; his hand's on her knee; he's rounding second and heading for third. And Wicks knows his way around big aching ballads, and even the mushy tearjerker about the 12-year-old boy (or however old he is) who takes care of his single mom while his dad only calls on weekends got to me after a while; maybe my hormones were acting up that day, who knows. Still don't get "Stealing Cinderella," which is the actual hit single on the thing, but maybe that will sink in eventually, too. (For some reason, the album reminds me of Jason Michael Carol's debut from a year ago, which seemed to have a similar mix of sap and okayness to it.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 27 December 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago)

DR. HOOK, Greatest Hooks -- I voted for this in my #5 reissue spot in my Nashville Scene ballot, even though their coked-up schmaltz is frequently unbearable. But "Cover of The Rolling Stone" is one of the funniest songs ever written anywhere and therefore what Nickelback's "Rockstar" (which has nonetheless been growing on me even more since I saw its goofy video) should be, and "Sylvia's Mother" is like OutKast's "Ms. Jackson" only better, and I honestly think Dr. Hook's later country-disco sellout-sleaze period (best exemplified by "Sexy Eyes" and the very funkily riffed "Baby Makes Her Blue Jeans Talk", though the Ray Parker Jr. imitation "Girls Can Get It" is cute too) may stand up as a completely original hybrid that should have turned into its own genre but somehow never did. Otherwise, "A Little Bit More" appears to concern sexual stamina, "Sleeping Late" appears to concern masturbating, and "A Couple More Years" appears to concern being older than your partner (not that she's a little teenage blue-eyed groupie or anything of course.) But I'm pretty sure she dumps him anyway.

FINN AND THE SHARKS -- Weirdly, the the last song on Breakfast Special, an apparent gospel singalong apparently called "Down to the Well" or something, opens up with guitar chords from "Cover of A Rolling Stone," but then it always lets me down by not being "Cover Of A Rolling Stone." "Rhythm and Ruin," meanwhile, opens with guitar chords from "Smokin' In the Boys Room," so I guess these seeming Teddy Boys actually grew up on '70s AM radio (I bet Fonzie and Sha Na Na were inspirations, too). Also, some of the better tracks ("Tell Your Mama," especially, and "Growing Up Evil") are really more dark sleazy AOR blues-rock than rockabilly, and "I Don't Want To Die Unknown" has a monster hard rock riff and reminds me of the MC5, and "Drugstore Cutie" sounds like a '70s hard rock band going new wave in 1979, always a good thing. But some of the more obvious greaser-jitterbug revival stuff ("Rockabilly Bop," gawd) is more so-what, and "Every Day" annoys me even more by reminding me of the Cherry Poppin' Daddies/Royal Crown Revue '90s swing revival (which reminded me a little of the Blasters itself, so that kinda makes sense.) Still, more hard stuff ("Fed Up" is another fast tough one) than wussy stuff here, and the Led Zeppelin cover kills.

xhuxk, Thursday, 27 December 2007 14:25 (seventeen years ago)

ATOMIC BITCH -- Tuneful self-released La.-via-L.A. band, led by a strong-voiced gal named Ursulla, plenty of glammy '80s Cali pop and glammy '80s Cali rock color in their sound (I liked the EP they put out in '06 too); not a lot of country on Promnite, but one of the best songs (at least partially about lemon merengue pie and getting tied up) is called "Hillbilly Swing," and it has a bit of a twang to it (along with some Bowie glam in the high notes), so that's a way in. I also like "Suspicious Hair Dryer," which is a good fuzzy dancey song (with some Blur or Pavement in its woo-hoos but not in a bad way) about a household appliance (possibly used as a weapon), with brand names (Maytag, Sunbeam) and pink hair curlers adding speficity. And in another song Ursulla shares a leather jacket with a boy, and in "Easy There Tiger" she tells a boy to slow down. And "Rock'n'Roll High School" is not a Ramones cover but that's okay, as is the fact that the hooks might pop out more if they were more slickly produced.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=3619977

ELIZA NEALS -- Husky-voiced self-released rustic-soul pop singer from Detroit via N.Y.; I liked her previous record as well. Triangulates somewhere between Sheryl Crow, Joss Stone, Melissa Etheridge, maybe. "Motown legend Barrett Strong Jr." gets a few co-songwriting credits. Melodies partially come from "Ain't No Sunshine" (in "About Her") and "To Love Somebody" (in "Let Go"). The cover of Neil Young's "Southern Man" has a really cool guitar buildup. "Forgotten Town" seems to be about homeless people abandoned on Detroit's desolate streets. Hard powerchords in "Snakes," some jazziness in "U Can Bet," but I still wish the songs were hitting me more; nothing here totally grabs me, at least so far.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=27994940

xhuxk, Thursday, 27 December 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

>>since download and social networking sites frequently do keep precise >>count of how many plays X and Y tracks get

Doesn't align. Too much pooching, the oxygen of the Internet, going on.
How many people stick around on their own sites, logging in through anonymous servers, or just deleting their browser caches, to pump up their numbers? Everyone. Those who say they don't are liars.

Plus, I've found that if I actually take the trouble to download something I want to listen to, I don't listen on the PC, I burn it and play it in the stereo later. That means downloads can get played hardly at all before I delete them, depending on my opine.

And then there's the phenom, unquantifiable but common to all parts of the digital world, of downloading free and pirated stuff just for the sake of having a big pile of stuff. And lots of that doesn't get listened to much at all, if at all, I reckon.

Gorge, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

Xhuxk, I do like Cole Deggs, or, that is, liked him when I played months ago and instantly forgot him, then liked him again when I played him again this week. He has a light touch on fast rockers that doesn't prevent the guitar lines from whipping out at you, and he can also do some gentle jazz-tinged smoochers; oddly, that description makes him sound like Toby Keith, whom I find not-the-least forgettable. Anyway, I think Deggs needs more good songs. His lightness is fine, when lightness is what I want, but he probably could use more distinctiveness. Or maybe he just needs more listens from me.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

"not-the-least forgettable" = I never forget his stuff

But a lot of people on this thread seem to be forgetting Toby this year, as Xhuxk's the only one who's had much to say about the record. So I only finally searched it down today. And I think it's good. The single is strong, so are the rock-along rock 'n' rollers (though oddly this year's most intense Chuck Berry move comes from Rihanna on "Lemme Get That," which is one of the most ambitious-strange songs I've heard this year). I'm listening to "High Maintenance Woman," and one of the reasons I like it, I'm realizing, is that its riff reminds me a lot of Cinderella's "Gypsy Road" (which Xhuxk once listed in Radio On as his number one single ever, iirc), a fierce but cheery guitar line.

Problem is that last year's White Tra$h With Money was lovely from start to finish, whereas I'd call this one likable most of the way (with a couple of dull spots), and it doesn't elicit nearly the same passion from me. But "Walk It Off," which Xhuxk was rather meh about upthread, achieves a bit of the slow storm loveliness of White Trash, without losing its walk. Nice album. Don't know if it'll make my chart, though.

I'm realizing that, unlike last year, I've got more than ten country albums I want in my top ten list. There's also a lot of parity; last year my number seven album was Montgomery Gentry's very good Some People Change but there was no way it was interchangeable in quality with the albums above it, whereas my number seven at the moment for this year, John Anderson's Easy Money, could easily rise to number two, or fall off the list altogether. Last year I included a Totally Country comp to pad the list. This year I'll probably declare Ashley Monroe ineligible (given that her album never was released) to free up an extra space, but there are four or five albums that could compete for that one space (Toby, Little Big Town, Kid Rock (but I'll probably declare him ineligible), Black Angel (whom I'm deciding are eligible as "country" because it's not like there are a lot of <i>other</i> markets for their Stonesish choogle-groove)(not that country is a market for them either), and all those albums from earlier in the year that I've forgotten what they sound like (John Waite, Richard Thompson, Jack Ingram).

But anyway, my real puzzlement is singles. It's not that I can't find ten I like, but that I get the feeling that there's a lot more out there.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

Also, a question similar to one I posted on the teenpop thread (except there it wasn't about country):

What surprised you in country music this year?

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

My lack of interest in it, to be honest. But that's not really a helpful answer.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago)

Sugarland. I never thought I'd like their record more than just about everything else I listened to this year. There were only two other "new" pieces I probably enjoyed a bit more. Foghat's Live II -- which isn't strictly Foghat but which nontheless killed -- and The Sirens' More is More.

Gorge, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago)

I like the Sirens (though they push the competence-envelope; good groove though, especially their Slade cover)! I can't remember when last I heard Foghat. I haven't heard this year's Sugarland, but I'm skeptical.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

Another Christmas album I've been playing is from late last year. Especially good when the ritual visitors keep trickling in (last blast on New Year's Day, whoopee)(deadlines trickling in, but so is my diligence): Christmas Time Again, by the The dBs & Friends. It's been reissued several times, with bonus tracks of quality trickling in too. Moody, vibey, horny in several senses, Jack Daniels in the eggnog if you please. And simpler sugars. Big Star and solo Chilton: one track each, familiar enough and available elsewhere, but that's part of what we got at (and gave for)Christmas. Just a bit of low-budget Spector echo (with girls up front, and Stamey gets them twice!); Don Dixon doesn't overdo the Prima bits; stray Whiskeytown re letters in the attic (Ryan without much Caitlin, and about the best from him or them I've heard); good self-pity from Marshall Crenshaw; you can read more about it and still hear the spotlight track:
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=373

dow, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago)

On that same page is a link to a rat nice 'un Gorge picked last year, "Pease Daddy Don't Get Drunk," by Kelly Willis and Bruce Robison:
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=357

dow, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago)

Jessica Simpson Going Country On New Album
Jessica Simpson

Billboard, December 28, 2007, 11:15 AM ET

by Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.

Believe it: Jessica Simpson has decamped to Nashville to begin work on her debut country album, due sometime in 2008 via Columbia Nashville.

Simpson declined to name songwriting collaborators, but tells Billboard.com she will most definitely be involved in the creative process. "Writing is a release for me," she says. "It's a way for me to tell my story. That's not to say I wouldn't record a song that I didn't write. It's just that it has been a while since I have opened the book."

But why country, and why now? "I am a country girl," she says. "I grew up in Texas, and country music was what I listened to. I always wanted to make a country album, but I wanted to wait until the time was right."

"I think there is a strength in female country artists," Simpson adds, citing Martina McBride, Shania Twain, Faith Hill and Reba McEntire as some of her inspirations.

Asked what has surprised her most since starting the follow-up to 2006's "A Public Affair," Simpson says, "Nashville is a very warm city. The people are friendly and kind. There is a sense of community, which thrives on music. There is no animosity ... only respect for one another's talent."

It's unclear if Simpson will hit the road in support of the as-yet-untitled country project, but she says, "Since the record is in the beginning stages, there hasn't been much talk about a tour just yet."

Frank Kogan, Friday, 28 December 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

Is there nothing Jessica Simpson cannot do? I can only hold my breath until she decides to take on global warming, malaria and the tragic problem of raging obesity in American school children.

>>The people are friendly and kind.

Particularly so when you pay them.

Gorge, Friday, 28 December 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago)

But she couldn't help the Cowboys beat the Eagles. (Maybe she was secretly in cahoots with the Eagles.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 28 December 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago)

Country stuff that surprised me this year:

1.) Better Bellamy Brothers and Kid Rock albums (assuming the later counts as country) than I'd ever thought I'd hear again in my lifetime; John Anderson too, I guess. (Maybe I should throw in Drive-By Truckers' imminent early '08 album too, but I'm bored by a lot more of it than I thought.)
2.) Better Travis Tritt and Brad Paisley albums, this late in the game, than I'd ever heard before period (and I still don't like Travis's anywhere near as much as Frank does, or Brad's anywhere near as much as lots of other people seem to.)
3.) Country bands (though not all of them are technically as self-contained as I at first thought) on major labels, with hints of having hits, almost.
4.) Big N Rich surprised me twice -- first, by making a worse album than I'd ever expected they would; then second, by making me like it anyway.
5.) Most recent surprise: Listening to Amanda Shaw's new album (which, granted, doesn't come out until January '08) again the other day, I realized that who she really reminds me of (at least in her more new wavey moments) is Rachel Sweet, who also put out her nationally distributed debut when she was 16.
6.) Also wound up liking the '06 albums by Alan Jackson and Taylor Swift more than I'd expected I would when '06 ended. Voted for Taylor, who accrued most of her sales and chart action in '07 anyway, on by Idolator and Pazz & Jop ballots (but not my Nashville Scene ballot, since their release date requirements are much more strict.) Didn't vote for Alan Jackson this year; that would have been silly --I just lamely came late to it, is all. If I had to do my '06 ballots over, though, it'd probably be on there. (And since Alan had never even hinted at doing anything even approaching that level of ease and warmth and beauty and humanity and playability before, Like Red On A Rose still ranks as one of the country surprises of the decade, easy.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 29 December 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

Mentioned Mechanical Bull a few paces upthread; like them even more now. Advance CD sleeve shows a young hipster looking guy (apparently Adam Widoff on guitar/bass/ drums/B3/clavinet/shaker) and young hipster looking girl (apparently Avalon Peacock -- great name, or annoying one, take your pick) from Woodstock, NY; so maybe they're considered a duo, but the cover credits also list six more musicians (on mandolin, pedal steel/dobro, guitar, guitar/vocals, dums, banjo/sax), plus John Medeski (jazz/fusion/jam band guy from Medeski Martin and Wood who I've never really listened to, right?) playing B3 on the song "Luke Warm Coffee," which is one of the ones Avalon sings, or rather purrs, and is an attempt at a seedy sort of smokey-lounge torch ambience ("lukewarm coffee and a filter cigarette" -- I don't smoke, but doesn't that just mean one you didn't roll yourself?), and therefore cornball by definition, and one of my least favorite songs on the album, but that said I still like it okay; it does the ambience as well as, I dunno, Amy Winehouse or Devil Doll or Sarah Borges do, maybe better.) But on this album, it is also, fortunately, atypical. And Annette (who does ethereal to the male singer's earthy -- good match) only sings a few of the songs (incluing "Desert Air," where she manages a good Grace Slick quiver amid some ominous spaghetti western psychedelia and the chants turn almost Gregorian by the end, so yeah, they get a good desert sound indeed); the rest are sung by a guy, who I had been assuming was Adam until right this second but I just noticed that "vocals" are not among his credits, so maybe it's Chase Pierson? Need to check, I guess. Whatever; whoever it is has a good deep voice with plenty of gravity -- reminds me of Cooley in the Drive By Truckers (yes, I am finally able to tell the DBTs' voices apart; sorry it took me so long.) And Southern Rock guitar jams like "Crazy Lady" would doubtlessly appeal to Truckers fans, too, but the other act the male voice and songs keep bringing to mind are much less authentic Brit techno-country collective A3 (at least on their late '90s-ish debut album that had the Sopranos theme on it), except without the techno. (The hipster boy/girl duo acting rustic thing might also put Mechanical Bull in the White Stripes/Kills/ Raveonettes genre, whatever that's called these days, but I don't really hear sonic similarities to any of those acts.) Anyway, songs I like I a lot (1) "Debts" ("...that no honest man can pay" -- that's a cover, isn't it? Though here, like most of the other songs, it's credited to guitarist-vocalist Chase Pierson, who okay, if he writes the songs, I wouldn't be surprised if he sings them too, and maybe that's even him not Adam in the photo, which is really confusing seeing how Adam's name and all his multitudinous credits are right under the photo); (2) "The End" (existential country -- I just made that probably meaningless subgenre name up; it also includes certain early Joe Ely songs like "Bhagavad Decree" and "I Think I'm Gonna Go Downtown" and yeah some A3 too, okay? -- about how you're good at starting things but not finishing them); (3) "Find A Home" (more existentialism about how "I don't look for trouble/trouble finds me on its own," very Cooley actually and the guy ain't got no home); (4) "Biggest Nerd In The Class" (closest thing to a blatant novelty joke here, except it's not, really; concerns the eternal high school popularity contest and the kid who gets picked last for kickball and carries the big bookbag falls in love with the girl who doesn't pay attention to what anybody thinks of her and they both wind up attactive people; very Revenge of the Nerds obviously and maybe Nada Surf's "Popular" too I'm not sure and okay there's probably some connection to White Stripes' walk-to-school songs on their first couple albums too come to think of it); (5) "Left Turn in Jersey" (= nearly impossible just like understanding the girl the singer is singing to: great metaphor, and "you've got your barbs in me like a porcupine" is a great line; anyway, this two-step is the second most blatantly "funny" song on the album and it's funny to me anyway and by the way did I say that these mostly all have really good melodies? well, they mostly all have really good melodies -- with hooks and energy and plenty of prettiness attached); (6) "Million Yesterdays" (good wistful memory drone with more Gregorian sighing in it; Avalon is watching the children in the park going round and round on their merrygoround while she herself goes round and round on the windmills of her mind and voices in her head as tears go by -- too bad Lee Hazlewood died; he would have liked this song I think); (7) "Goodbye Woodstock" (nice summers but harsh winters there and every year is the same so where will they move now? -- reminds me a little of that song on the new Vampire Weekend debut album, only song I like on there really, where they leave Cape Cod, but this song is better). So anyway, those are my notes, and sorry there are so many of them. Good album. Their myspace page, again:

http://www.myspace.com/mechanicalbullpen

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 December 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago)

(Actually, those two songs I call Joe Ely songs are quite possibly actually Butch Hancock songs, but Ely's versions are the ones I know, assuming Hancock ever actually sang them. Also, with the Bhagavad one -- assuming I even spelled it right -- I realize that conflating Eastern religion with existentialism may well be a contradition in terms, but so be it. It still feels existential to me, somehow.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 December 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago)

And okay, Mechanical Bull's myspace page (which for some reason also only shows two people in its photo) says the lead male singer is definitely Piersen:

Band Members CHASE PIERSON-Lead Vocals/Guitar CHRIS ZALOOM-Steel Guitar/Electric Guitar ADAM WIDOFF-Electric Guitar/Bass/Drums DAVID MALACHOWSKI-Electric Guitar GEORGE QUINN-Electric Bass JBIRD BOWMAN - Drums/Vocals AVALON PEACOCK-Vocals

Influences Dysfunctional marriages, alcoholism and the american dream

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 December 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

By the way, I also noticed yesterday that Sarah Buxton, who Frank was raving about last week, also is the person who dueted with Cowboy Troy on "If You Don't Wanna Love Me" on his debut album a couple years ago. Does that mean she is a Muzik Mafioso too?

And I've also been wanted to proclaim my love, or at least like, here for the upcoming early '08 album by the Horror Pops, lady-led Eurogothskasurfabillies on Hellcat; as with labelmates Tiger Army earlier this year, they'd never hit me before but somehow seem to have finally come into their own. Good glam-rumble bottom underneath, and the singer (sorry, don't have her name in front of me) does a good Lene Lovich hiccup on top, and she likes exciting movies (as evidenced by the excellently surf-guitared "Thelma and Louise" and the somewhat torch-kitsched but still real good big ballad "Hitchcock Starlet" as in "tonight I'll die in black and white like a Hitchock starlet") and other tales of girls living or at least driving fast and dying young ("Highway 55," probably my favorite), and "Missfit" has cool Madness "Our House" quotes and "Boot To Boot" has cool oi! shouts and "Horrorbeach Part 2" has cool Link Wray style guitars and "Kiss Kiss Kill Kill" has a cute '80s modern-rock melody, and the schtick dates way back to the Cramps at least but all told I sure don't recall No Doubt ever being this much fun. (Qualifies for thge country thread thanks of course to the rockabilly element, which No Doubt lacked.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 December 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago)

Apparently the singer's name is Patricia Day; HorrorPops is only one word; they are from Denmark but currently based in L.A.; and have Warp Toured:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=6058446

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 December 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

This Is Chris Cagle, 10-song press promo best-of; I wonder how many of these Captiol sent out, and of those, how many writers they actually expect to listen to the thing, especially this time of year, and especially when Chris supposedly has an actual album coming out soon even though now I'm wondering whether his tabloid headline a couple weeks ago might postpone said record. (Wikipedia: "On December 13, 2007, Cagle was cited by Tucson, Arizona police for assulting a man after a benefit concert at a local Tucson night spot. After the concert, Cagle signed at least one autograph for the man's girlfriend. She became aggressive after he declined to sign anymore for her, which led both the woman and her boyfriend to call Cagle names. The boyfriend declined to press charges and police reported that Cagle and his manager were both cooperative with the investigation.") Anyway, who cares; it's a good record, probably the best Chris Cagle album you'll ever hear if you ever manage to find a copy. (Though how would I know? I've only heard a couple of his albums. Just a hunch.) Opener "My Love Goes On and On" sounds a lot like John Anderson's "Black Sheep" and while it doesn't rock as hard (or smart) as said song it rocks hard and smart enough; "Laredo" isn't as good as Joe Ely's Laredo song but is stil Western border cowboy country with nice windswept guitar; "Chicks Dig It" is another rocker about playing the fool and maybe even auditioning for Jackass (not that he says that explicitly) by crashing into mailboxes (ghost ride the whip!) because, uh, that's why ladies find attractive (a deluded theory, I'm guessing, but who cares, demolishing mailboxes is always worth writing songs about): "Hey Y'All" (tough heartland rhythm-rock about blasting Skynyrd and saying "hey y'all")/"Wal-Mart Parking Lot" (high school social geography lesson about competing cliques etc.)/brand new "What Kinda Gone" (another tough heartland rhythm-rocker wherein Chris talks about the many competing and ambiguous definitions of said adjective) sound real good one after the other. Most of the rest is fairly competent ballads I have trouble caring about, some of them building up with a smidgen of oomph and at least one of them ("What a Beautiful Day") with intriguing orchestrations and lots of three-digit numbers (counting blessings or days since he met somebody I gather) in its lyrics, but it's still a good batting average. No copies on amazon.com or ebay.com (I just checked)--so: a collector's item!

xhuxk, Sunday, 30 December 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

i just got the new trisha. xcited.

Surmounter, Monday, 31 December 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago)

I got the Cagle too. Like the uptempo numbers, not so hot on the slower ones myself, just like Chuck says. I haven't heard whether his little contretemps will delay the record.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

Conversation continues on the Rolling Country 2008 Thread.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:33 (seventeen years ago)


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