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What's up with Beenie Man leaving Shocking Vibes? That's kinda surprising.

Confounded (Confounded), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

And it's been out for a while but I am feeling "Come Around" by Collie Buddz, a white dude from Bermuda by way of New Orleans.

Confounded (Confounded), Saturday, 6 January 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Didn't he guest on someone's else record lately--like a big pop/r'n'b singer or something--Beyonce maybe?

I was checking out Dave Stelfox's end-of-the year list on his monthly Pitchfork column as a way of helping me decide how to catch up with dancehall as I haven't heard much in awhile. Dancehall seems to be staying strong although the one-drop resurgance seems to be hanging in there also.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 6 January 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

I just spent forever looking for that Pitchfork list... here it is:

http://pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/39789/The_Month_In_The_Month_In_Reggae_Dancehall

Confounded (Confounded), Saturday, 6 January 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

Collie was on a remix of Beyonce's Ring the Alarm.. they put it on Stalag.

Confounded (Confounded), Saturday, 6 January 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't realize that Noel Ellis record was that good. I've seen a million used copies. Also surprised at lack of Buju on singles list.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

those light in the attic jamaica to toronto reissues are really good alex. well, the two i've heard (the comp & the jackie mittoo)

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

voicemail vs. busy signal lol

am0n (am0n), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

is the '06 one-drop anthems comp any good then??

am0n (am0n), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

Yup. Not as good as '05 though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 6 January 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR0oQwrlZD8

am0n (am0n), Saturday, 6 January 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, who is that dude? Famous UK selector?

Confounded (Confounded), Sunday, 7 January 2007 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

Yup.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 7 January 2007 03:01 (eighteen years ago)

that clip is amazing

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 7 January 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

That's me at 65, no doubt.

Confounded (Confounded), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:14 (eighteen years ago)

if you're lucky

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:31 (eighteen years ago)

What's up with Beenie Man leaving Shocking Vibes?

i guess mgmt. wanted him to clean up his act to obtain superstardom and he said fuck dat

http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20061221/ent/ent4.html

http://www.ttgapers.com/Article1613.html

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:43 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.fingaz.co.zw/stories.aspx?stid=2171

rofl @ "he took a dig at Bounty Killer for failing to make
his former squeeze, D’Angel, who is now Beenie Man’s wife, pregnant? Boasting of his own sexual virility Beenie Man intimated that Bounty Killer has a limping sex life."

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 7 January 2007 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

Hahahaha

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 7 January 2007 05:57 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBWp5jiTnHk

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 7 January 2007 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

elephant man's next album will be on .. bad boy? (working title: "dancehall is dead")

am0n (am0n), Monday, 8 January 2007 04:45 (eighteen years ago)

fishenta

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 8 January 2007 04:46 (eighteen years ago)

I thought I read he signed to Bad Boy in 05?? Oh Elephant Man, help us to understand your muddled ways.

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 00:00 (eighteen years ago)

luciano making a dubplate at killamanjaro:

http://www.peppapot.com/getvideo/391

am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

Reggae Vibes Top 30

http://www.reggae-vibes.com/2006_45s/2006_45s.html

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

i don't think dutty wine is all that great

am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 01:34 (eighteen years ago)

And it's been out for a while but I am feeling "Come Around" by Collie Buddz,

just heard this, the wahwahed bong rip sounds are kinda silly

am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 02:02 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20070110/news/news1.html

Sigh. Kartel shoots up Mavado's barbershop, Mavado shoots up Kartel's studio (and injures his wife.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

good fuckin' lord

cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

These guys haven't learned anything from Bounty Killer/Beenie Man! JUST KEEP MAKING FUN OF THE OTHER GUY'S HOMOSEXUAL TENDENCIES IN SONG!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

i think what i'm most surprised by in this story is that vybz kartel is married

cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

Haha why's that surprising?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

i'm trying to picture him picking up toilet paper and milk on his way home

cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

why is it always a white toyota

am0n (am0n), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Haha well I'm sure he doesn't do that. He has flunkies to do that for him. Vybz is at leastin his mid-20s now, isn't he?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

Wow at least 28 (according to wikipedia, no birth date.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

"Adijah Palmer"

http://niceup.com/stage_names

Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

wow that's great.

haha most of these guys have government names just as good as their stage names.

cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

Alphonsus Cassell!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

... make up ur minds lads

tsk. (mwah), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

their beef is fairly recent i think as vybz broke off with bounty's crew alliance which movado is part of

http://www.ttgapers.com/Article1618.html

"Patricia (Adijah) Palmer come drive pass mi community... Him a fire shot fi look stripe an a graze leg, tell him top shotta nuh miss," said Mavado, referring to the incident which occurred in Cassava Piece, St. Andrew.

lol names

am0n (am0n), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

This whole bleached face thing is really weird.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

"Dickie Rankin' aka Snagga Puss"

!!

am0n (am0n), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

that white mice is ok but not as good as i thought it would be

however just got the first two volumes of

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/k/kingjammyot_kingjammy_104b.jpg

holy shit

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 01:28 (eighteen years ago)

there's 4 vols and each is 2 discs, all old school digital rhythms. seems to pick the best versions of each rhythm and i think it even goes chronologically starting w/ darkershade on vol.1 and ends on punanny on vol.4

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah I saw those. Jesus why did VP even bother with the thing earlier in the year if they were just going to drop this.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:17 (eighteen years ago)

i know. only made it thru disc one of the first volume and am ready to go back to get 3 and 4. nice track-by-track liner notes (no dates though, which is annoying)

vp will probably put out full albums for each of these rhythms next and make all of this redundant

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)

Haha well that's a bit too much for me. I have the first volume of this as well as this and this, but I think I may just sell the first two and pick these up (can't tell if the Maximum Pressure one is made obsolete, guessing not since at least two or three tracks were unreleased dubplates.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

It would be nice if they did something similar for Steely & Clevie.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

i'd keep the maximum pressure one if i were you. as far as i can tell there is overlap mostly with the metro comp.

agreed about steely and clevie

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:57 (eighteen years ago)

that super power comp you linked to is probably a keeper too. i didn't even know about that series

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:00 (eighteen years ago)

.com/file/wg5Pompidoo "Synthesizer Voice"

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

2nd try

Pompidoo "Synthesizer Voice"

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:07 (eighteen years ago)

I love that track. It's on Nice Up The Dance!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:19 (eighteen years ago)

RUUUUF

Confounded (Confounded), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:48 (eighteen years ago)

uhhh...

http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/attack-r.htm

Attack Records is a reggae label from the 1970s given to Morrissey by Sanctuary Records as part of the contract he signed with them in 2003.

:-----(

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

Rihanna - Break it Off!! Higher Altitude riddim!!

Confounded (Confounded), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:14 (eighteen years ago)

Oh shit, and the Bounty Killer/Vybz track too

Confounded (Confounded), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:20 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of producer comps, anybody heard this?

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000026IAV.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Label: Killer Price

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 02:10 (eighteen years ago)

discuss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCyjwt1poWM

am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 02:59 (eighteen years ago)

leftside = dr. evil, btw

am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:00 (eighteen years ago)

"Speaking of producer comps, anybody heard this?"

Yes. Everything on it is amazing, but it's from '91-92 and they've tons of great stuff since.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCyjwt1poWM

of all the verses to repeat twice...

he couldn't think up 16 more bars to dis batty boys?

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 05:06 (eighteen years ago)

Yes. Everything on it is amazing, but it's from '91-92 and they've tons of great stuff since.

Oh okay, I thought we were talking about a comp of early 90s S&C stuff.

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 05:08 (eighteen years ago)

If I like Assault riddim, what other Fat Eyes stuff should I check out?

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 06:36 (eighteen years ago)

"Oh okay, I thought we were talking about a comp of early 90s S&C stuff."

Haha well the King Jammy thing is a bit more than a comp. IT'S EIGHT CDS and like 160 tracks! That's pretty much a boxed set.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

And it's only 5 years amazingly (although Jammy did, Bounty Killer aside, lull slightly in the early 90's.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

lol

http://jahworks.org/music/features/images/vybzandstacy_sm.jpg

Vybz Kartel (b. Adidjah Palmer) tied the knot with his lover of four years, Stacy Elliott on December 22, 2005 in a private ceremony before a marriage officer at the Registrar General Department branch office on Trevennion Park in Kingston, Jamaica. The rudebwoy deejay proposed a week earlier, "Last week, mi just get up mad and decide fi do it, is like mi get a wedding fever from wha day because my babymother's mother got married recently and I was the best man for the groom, so I just decided to do it... It's all good, I am in love, I am happy, this is just glorious," said Kartel. He met his bride at a stage show in Brooklyn in 2001 when they immediately hit it off. Elliott, a 31-year-old bank supervisor, grew up in Kingston until age 8. She currently lives in the Bronx, New York. The couple plans to honeymoon in Montego Bay, Jamaica.

am0n (am0n), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

jammy's vol. 4 @ 320, send me an email

Confounded (Confounded), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

traded some cds in today for that -__-

i can give u the first one if u still need it.

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 21 January 2007 05:40 (eighteen years ago)

also got

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/pop_albums/3/5/b/g35652ljmb9.jpg

i badly need a rhythm id for one of the tracks on this

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 21 January 2007 05:44 (eighteen years ago)

found it http://www.riddimbase.net/view/riddim_%7E529/

am0n (am0n), Sunday, 21 January 2007 06:34 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently Scientists and Jammy have been fighting over royalties forever...?

Haven't had time to really check this out but:

http://www.myspace.com/jammyslies

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

Yes it's been a big issue for eons. Greensleeves is also involved obv.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

Actually more than involved, as they are the ones scamming the Scientist.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

It's so serious they're makin' MySpace profiles about it. :)

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

:(

am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

Mims - This Is Why I'm Hot (ft. Junior Reid & Baby Cham)

Confounded (Confounded), Saturday, 3 February 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt_rXWmrRQ4

Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 9 February 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

gr8 8) 8) (8 (8

i like his voice better than damian

am0n (am0n), Friday, 9 February 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

answer riddim + beatboxing = yes pls

Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 9 February 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

raw

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 10 February 2007 00:22 (eighteen years ago)

I couldn't name one current riddim right now. Sigh.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 10 February 2007 00:24 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know too much bout dancehall, so bear with me.,..I've been listening to a lot of Anthony B lately. Reggae Dancehall? Does it matter? Opinions?

paulhw (paulhw), Saturday, 10 February 2007 01:13 (eighteen years ago)

huh? does what matter? opinions on what? question?

am0n (am0n), Saturday, 10 February 2007 01:24 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
[Pete from MN's questions re King Jammys set ]http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=56455#unread[/link]

curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

[Removed Illegal Link]

curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

Does anyone know anything about a woman named Lexie Lee? She played at my college yesterday. Pretty good set.

The Reverend, Saturday, 3 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...
busy signal "step out" - c/d?

bare tings and full a talk are !!!! but his style overall jocks vybz and beenie a bit too much

am0n, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://wayneandwax.com/?p=123

Wayne Marshall mix and comments on the presence of Jamaica in hiphop

curmudgeon, Sunday, 15 April 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

That's his April 10th posting

curmudgeon, Sunday, 15 April 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

all those extra 'l's' in this thread title make it hard to find with the search engines.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

More Wayne plugging...DId anyone see his presentation at the EMP Pop conference:

"Follow Me Now: The Zig-Zagging Zunguzung Meme"
First appearing on Yellowman's 1981 recording, "Zunguzungunguzunguzeng," the short, memorable melodic phrase which propels the song's chorus has turned up with remarkable frequency in subsequent recordings and in seemingly far-flung sites. From seminal, "hardcore" hip-hop albums to top 40 club anthems to underground reggaeton recordings, the catchy contour has appealed to non-Jamaican performers as well as reggae artists as a means of expressing a rather local sense of place, ironically and significantly, by invoking a symbol of the foreign-but-familiar. As such, the "Zunguzung Meme," if you will, offers an incredibly audible thread with which to trace reggae's global circulation, hip-hop's crucial but subtle incorporation of the dancehall lexicon, and reggaeton's complex cultural politics. Listening to the phrase as it reappears, accruing new meanings in new contexts and recalling connotations of previous occurrences, we can hear the ways that music draws lines of community, affirming as well as revising notions of nation, race, and place. This paper follows the Zunzuzung Meme as it zigs and zags from Kingston to the Bronx to Brooklyn, LA, and San Juan, informing as it reflects local and translocal cultural and social formations. While noting the melody's movement across wide stretches of time and space, I will consider the implications of a reggae-derived figure disappearing into hip-hop's vocabulary and how the melody works as an intertextual -- and often international -- gesture in various moments of production and reception.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:07 (eighteen years ago)

july 1 at crossroads: barrington levy !!!!!

am0n, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:39 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Have you been there lately? All the tv new stories about violence near there have me wondering. I've been to soca and Congolese rumba shows there over the years and felt comfortable parking near there and in the club but am wondering if things have gotten worse.

Collie Budz and Gyptian there June 16th.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 04:23 (eighteen years ago)

guys i fucking love this shit and don't even have any idea where to begin

river wolf, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 05:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.miamiherald.com/219/story/120789.html

Evelyn Mcdonell in the Miami Herald on Bounty Killer's batty men bashing at a festival. Yea, I know there's a whole 'nuther thread for just that subject.

But surely there's got to be new dancehall out that we should check out where we do not have to worry about the moral message.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

"guys i fucking love this shit and don't even have any idea where to begin"

VP's Dancehall 101 series is a great start. For more recent stuff the Greensleeves Biggest Ragga Dancehall Anthems series from 1999-2003 are generally really consistent. For up to date more current than current stuff just log onto slsk and peruse the reggae rooms.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

There seems to be less crossover interest in dancehall from indie-rock websites and alt-weeklies these days (and here as well).

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Well it never had too many fans here on ILM, but yeah it's definitely seems to be going through a slight lull (less singles and less riddims anyway.)

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

also less crossover to rap radio

deej, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

at least locally

deej, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah the hip-hop/dancehall crossover cycle is pretty fascinating. It never entirely disappears, but there are time when it just explodes and suddenly every station is playing two or three dancehall tracks over and over and Beenie Man is guesting on every other tune.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

akon has fulfilled our 'vague carribean' quotient

deej, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Haha I thought he was from Senegal or something.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone just e-mail me when/if a Cecile album comes out? :>

Jordan, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

I was driving around yesterday and wishing that ILX hadn't talked me out of buying that last Beenie Man album.

Jordan, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

"Can someone just e-mail me when/if a Cecile album comes out?"

Hah dream on. The new Lady Saw album's good though.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

he is Senegalese-american

deej, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

epic:

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The Door is Always Open for Lady Saw. . . , April 17, 2007
By Achis (Kingston, JA/Philipsburg, SxM) - See all my reviews

This one (maybe) is for the end of one of the oddest relationships dancehall and all of reggae for that matter, has ever seen. Lady Saw released her first album for VP Records, Lover Girl, when she was just 25 years old and this year the St Mary's native will turn 38 years old. Walk Out marks the seventh `child' of the relationship which hasn't been exactly sparkling at all times. Mixed in the middle was a five and a half year drought which saw the two year delay of the eventual album, Striptease and public discontent on behalf of Saw (and rightfully so) while many of her even less marketable and certainly less talented peers received a big push from the label who eventually signed two different distribution deals (not including a deal with Virgin for Beenie Man) while Saw pretty much set on the sidelines. All this was done while Saw, undoubtedly one of the label's biggest names (despite the stretch of inactivity) continued to maintain a high profile here in Jamaica, performing on some of the biggest stage shows and festivals, and recording for some of the biggest producers and appearing on most of the mixtapes coming down the road. But the reward for those of us who were paying attention the entire time has been Saw herself. Over the thirteen years we've virtually watched Saw grow up, and while countless amounts of the artists she came in with have all but disappeared, shockingly it is Saw with just a handful of others (I.e. the Beenies, Bountys, Capletons and Bujus of the world) who have endured the test of time. Her reward is achieving a level of popularity which can only be described as dancehall ROYALTY. Thus, should she so much as cough on an album, if you are a fan of dancehall, you need to pay attention.

But now she's walking out. After thirteen years her contract with VP has culminated (I'm going to `go out on a limb' and assume that it was more than one contract she signed, I HOPE it was, for her sake) and she (as the cover shows!) is packing her bags in search of greener grass. Its an unusual situation to say the least (although I wouldn't be surprised at all should she keep her bags packed and catch a bus right back to VP and just. . . get a bigger room) in that, without a doubt, there isn't a label, including a major probably, that can give Lady Saw the attention she deserves. She is royalty, as I mentioned, and VP knows it. Thus, you can feel free to check out VP's release schedule and notice that it virtually cleared out a 2 month block (which includes delaying Da'ville's VP debut) since the label's last big release, Richie Spice's In the Streets to Africa and did pre-release promotion for Saw's album. I don't know of a place she can go and get that type of attention for her releases at this point. You'll find reviews for Walk Out in most major urban music publication from the states and down here, you won't walk a country block without seeing a poster somewhere for the album, the bottom line being that when its Saw's time, VP acts like its Saw's time!. . . They just have a hard time deciding when its to be Saw's time and not everyone else's, and only couple of their artists receive such attention outside of Saw, Capleton, Beres Hammond and now, presumably, recent signee Bounty Killa. I HOPE she doesn't go the route of Greensleeves (or even worse Jetstar) and thus even cut that status she enjoys now even more (despite the fact that Greensleeves is getting better), but it'll be very interesting to see where she goes.

With the label taking care of their part when its her time to he shine, even they don't do as good of a job as Saw does for herself and pale in comparison. Lady Saw hasn't enjoyed such a long run for being pretty or for being one of the few females amongst the countless lines of males in the industry, she can actually flow. Not blessed with lethal story telling style of dancehall poet/lyric demon (and close friend who gets a thank you in the liner notes) or the hybrid singing style of dancehall princess Cecile (who also gets a thank you) Saw is from the old school of the early 1990's dancehall when it was about building a vibes and developing a STRICT DJ style, which is what she did, her peers. besides the more well known, are the Terror Fabulous, Mega Banton, Silver Cat etc. of the world. And she held her own as a DJ amongst some of the entirely more hardcore names dancehall has ever seen. Her style was sexual but no more so than any of the rest, she just held the oddity of being a female so she received more attention (and critique) for cutting songs which wouldn't receive any if done by a male artist from a male point of view. She also developed a style of doing like a country style in her music, at first I couldn't stand that, but even now its almost a given when Saw releases an album you'll get at least one or two `country-hall' tracks as a given (Walk Out is no different). Lady Saw has truly been one of the pillars of the dancehall, deserving just as much credit as Beenie Man and Bounty Killa as artists who began in the dance, established in the dance, made their fortune in the dance and STAYED in the dance.

Her latest release, Walk Out, apart from its `historical' significance is, of course, a solid album and actually a bit better than its predecessor, the solid Strip Tease, as its cut down to a trim 14 tracks, as opposed to the 20 track monster which was the Strip Tease album. Its pretty much everything you've come to expect from Saw with one (HUGE) deviation and a few minor twists and turns; solid and world class dancehall delivered by its undisputed greatest daughter. Handling production on her own for Walk Out, Saw has compiled an album which doesn't exactly fit in on the previous era too much (where the albums where pretty much compilations) but an apparent attempt was made to build Walk Out on exclusivity, so many of these tracks have yet to be released (either that or I've been hanging around St Maarten too long and not listening to the radio) and they're not just her over the latest big riddims, although there is some of that as well (though she has historically had a problem with JA radio playing her songs last on the riddim or not at all in some cases), Walk Out appears to have been built for the sake of Walk Out and not just as singles.

By far the most interesting and finest tune on the album is the first single, the self produced No Less Than a Woman (Infertility). Lady Saw touted the tune as being one that was very rare in that it's a song about a woman who has tried for years unsuccessfully to have a child. As a man the vibe didn't really touch me just hearing about it, but as an actual release, the song is DIVINE! Recorded with producer Noel Alphonso, son of legendary late and great JA hornsman and saxophone player Roland Alphonso at her home studio, Saw put her heart and entire energy in the tune and complete with the Ras Kassa directed video. The song is one of the biggest of her career and may be the place where the true strength of Walk Out rests as it has been getting more spins in rotation both the audio and the video than any other Saw tune in memory. The song has also, apparently, been getting quite a few spins stateside and of course throughout reggae-starving Europe. Definitely a big track and one worth the price of admissions alone for Walk out.

No Less Than a Woman is actually the second track in a line of five tracks on Walk Out which keep it from being your stereotypical standout dancehall album. The first of the five, Silly Dreams is actually a pretty straight forward r&b track (with the nice slight one-drop of course, Lenky and Robbie do play on the track after all) which features Ms. Hall pretty much straight forward singing, showing versatility which I just said she didn't have lol; following No Less Than a Woman is complete Sly & Robbie production Not the World's Most Prettiest in which Saw addresses mental and spiritual beauty as opposed to physical beauty. Saw's look has always been one which one wouldn't necessarily describe as `drop dead' gorgeous and things have been said, and again, its very interesting to hear her address such a thing as the subject (and I for one, always thought she was beautiful), but I guess as she's Walking out, she's making sure she completely closes the door on all matters; fourth in the line of unusual tracks is You Need Me. . . You guessed it! The obligatory country-hall track is You Need Me. The track is pretty much what you get and it's a matter of like or dislike, lyrically it's a very solid track about a falling or fallen relationship and Saw does what she does with the vibes (both she and Bushman seem to have this love for country music, they should do a combination!). And lastly rounding out the line of five is the very very interesting Baby Dry Your Eyes, with Alphonso on the boards (as he is for You Need Me as well). This track is a combination r&b/swing era/ska on which Alphonso turns back the clock to his father's day playing with the legendary Skatalites, I love the song, completely something different and unexpected.

But this IS a dancehall album.

The title track is an older track which comes from Shams Baddis Ting riddim, one of my favorite dancehall riddims of the past few years and before when it was just Main Street's Baddis, I love the riddim and now through what is probably a couple dozen different tracks on the riddim overall, Saw's Walk Out is amongst the best and I don't remember hearing it, but that goes back to JA radio's unwillingness to play her tunes, which made a bad thing into a good thing in this situation. Also loving Me and My Crew as Saw absolutely rips Suku's new riddim (which is mad! Suku turning into a genius these days), very very hype track which is actually the second official JA single (with the first being Chat to Mi Back over Roach`s Mad Thing riddim). Saw wouldn't be Saw if she didn't touch the slackness at least a little and does so here mainly in the form of the self produced Power of the Pum a kind of anthem like sounding sing-a-long track about. . . Well you know what its about, but its 100% trademark Lady Saw and none do it better. Lastly, Saw tackles two of her longtime boyfriend John John's riddim with the first effort being the excllent solid Big Up over the riddim of the same name which has an old school appeal and captures glimpses of vintage Lady Saw and the wicked wicked album closer Stray Dog over the well powerful Battlefield riddim.

Overall, I can't help but recommend Lady Saw's Walk Out. Besides the collector's appeal of the album, its really one of her strongest. My favorite version of Saw is that mid-late 1990's style which she absolutely ruled and on Walk Out you don't really get that vibe directly, but its an album which shows she's actually still developing, I don't know if she could have ridden some of these riddims (particularly the Battlefield) just a few years ago during her hiatus, but now she's nearing that same perfection over the modern vibes. This album, however, can center and revolve around the piece that is No Less Than a Woman, such a powerful and revealing tune is not to be missed, nor is the latest piece from a talent which Jamaica regards as one of our finest exports at her highest current level. Biggup Lady Saw, she's Walking Out. . . and wherever she goes, I'm going with her!

Jordan, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Haha wow.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway yeah it's good!

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

Should I get Ragga Ragga Ragga '06?

Jordan, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah it's good. I paid $5 for it. I don't know that it's worth full price (as has been said in regard to the Reggae Gold and Ragga Ragga Ragga series, there are often some baffling choices on them--it's pretty easy to imagine a better tracklist with the same riddims.) I've not heard '07 version though.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, it didn't occur to me that there would be an '07 one out, lol.

Jordan, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah the RRR's and Reggae Gold series come out early/mid year and the Biggest Ragga Dancehall Anthems and Strictly The Bests come out in the late fall/early winter.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

Wow that Achis dude has appointed himself Amazon Official Chronicler of Dancehall, he writes pages on every record!

Jordan, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah you ain't kidding. 347 reviews like that!

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

Ragga Ragga Ragga '07 is crazy nice. Best tracks are Collie Buddz, Firelinks, Mr. Vegas and Busy Signal. I mean Movado's obviously hot, but that track's a lil older than some of the others.

Confounded, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

Have you been there lately? All the tv new stories about violence near there have me wondering. I've been to soca and Congolese rumba shows there over the years and felt comfortable parking near there and in the club but am wondering if things have gotten worse.

Collie Budz and Gyptian there June 16th.

-- curmudgeon, Wednesday, June 6, 2007 12:23 AM (20 hours ago)

no i don't have a car anymore. and i don't watch the news but prince georges county has always had problems with crime and no doubt that area since it bumps against the ne d.c. border but even college park can be sketchy.

i'd go for the elephant man/bobby konders show over collie buttz. i'd like to see levy but its on a sunday, a goddam SUNDAY

am0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 01:41 (eighteen years ago)

not feeling movado either but maybe i'm hearing th ewrong tracks

am0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 01:43 (eighteen years ago)

<i>http://www.miamiherald.com/219/story/120789.html

Evelyn Mcdonell in the Miami Herald on Bounty Killer's batty men bashing at a festival. Yea, I know there's a whole 'nuther thread for just that subject.</i>

"Where was Tanya Stephens, maker of <b>the best reggae album in years?</b> Instead of her wise protest against homophobia, the promoters trotted out Lady Saw, the token female artist who of course mostly toasts about sex."

was it? i thought it was boring

am0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

arschficke!

am0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 01:51 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i've come to pretty much completely resent mavado as an exemplar of everything dull about dancehall these days. perhaps unreasonably! - his one trick did work, once, and that 'dying' tune is okay i guess - but he could never have flourished when times had more bounce about them. everyone else is suffering in this climate; there'll always be wankers who'll be wildly impressed with everything vybz does, but right now he's running on incomprehensible staccato war bluster alone since his quick wit & sly eye for details are clearly gone gone gone, and while busy signal is the best deejay in ragga now BAR NONE, and even though he's ace enough to do quite well on the moody stuff, it's still not half of what he could be up to really.

the other thing mavado represents, conversely, is the abject failure of the 90s badman era revival - some of the wickedest music ever came from then, but no one now's really sexy and menacing like those guys were, at all. mavado is the settling for a vaguely haunting, placid, ambivalent aggression in lieu of anyone actually scaring anyone.

generally, like.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

rrr07 and reggae gold 07 are pretty bad, but i'm not sure i could do much better. like alex says tho, they are always bizarrely selected and patchy - even the 03/04 ones weren't all that, considering - so yeah river wolf should definitely look to the strictlys and anthems first. the strictlys have a lovely balance of reggae and ragga hits, i like them.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

oh yeah beenie's 'reverse di ting' on rrr07 is great fun tho - i love it when jamaicanists get all silly lyrical conceptual, and that one is particularly preposterous. busy signal is great at this too, he totally has a rapper boner.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

"the strictlys have a lovely balance of reggae and ragga hits, i like them."

Haha except now their split into a roots/lovers one and a ragga one so they aren't balanced at all!

RRR16 aka RRR2002 and RRR2003 are the two best (of the recent vintage) in that series. The former is probably slightly more consistent, but the latter has the awesome "Real Badman" w/ Bounty Killer, T.O.K. and Buccaneer. Both are definitely worth buying.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

I still have trouble with the fact that Busy Signal's name is well Busy Signal.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

I love RRR2003 but I'm sick of it, I need new shit.

Jordan, Thursday, 7 June 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

yeah dont get me wrong, rrr03 had some great tunes on there, but it also left twice as many behind. as far as i can recall anyway. and that's true about the strictly's, i forgot. the ragga one still looks like a more thoughtful selection than the anthems somehow.

COMPS SHMOMPS.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

RRR 14 is really good

am0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Dem a pussy inna badman place
When yuh see mi gun inna mi hand or one pon waist
When mi a kill bwoy pon border
Movado a barber weh yuh put powder pon man face

i still like vybz but his flow gets tiresome at times

am0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

rrr14: what's that, like 2001?

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

'99. i think 15 is 2001

am0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah the anthems are not exactly "thoughtfully" curated haha. LET'S GET FORTY TUNES AND JUST STUFF 'EM ON TWO CDS! YEAH! CAN'T LICENSE THAT, FUCK IT GRAB SOMETHING ELSE! YEAH!

Alex in SF, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

ooh look, busy's put my favourite rapper concept tune of his, 'double rhyme', on his myspace there! he's always versioning busta rhymes singles and sometimes even nicking his flows, come to think of it, you can really hear it there i think.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

i'm just happy someone else shares my lust for puns really.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

"i still like vybz but his flow gets tiresome at times"

Yeah I really liked the first album and the next album was. . . more of the same. . . and singles are. . . more of the same. I mean running good ideas into the ground is kind of the hallmark of dancehall deejays, but in the '90s Bounty Killer/Beenie Man/Buju/Capleton/Sizzla seemed a little more adventurous.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

one thing tho: 'vybzy versey love' is in the top 5 greatest tunes of the 00s, and pretty much absolves that 2nd album completely. seriously, i'm not joking, i give it 5 million out of ten. its lack of attention only proves it's just too good for this world. i could go on.

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

the first one i like the least despite some hot tracks (sen on, breast specialist, badda dan dem) but on that album he overdoes that annoying thing where his voice goes up and down, like cartoonishly exaggerated. but then i also hate that nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh shit he does on "realist thing"

am0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

isn't jmt his third album, timeless the 2nd? actually he's still doing it on jmt, like say hello and dutty landlord have that warbling voice he does. it works really well on emergency but it just gets fatiguing on headphones. he needs to do more in the vein of need u girl or guns like these

am0n, Thursday, 7 June 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

badman nuh like tom sawyers
we nuh like spies nuh perpetrators
we put di burner pon a player hater
we sell from certain cor-nerrr, woy

^^ can't get this tune outta my head today. the oddness just makes it so catchy, like since when was tom sawyer supposed to be a snitch?! yr possibilites are:

a/ rhyming slang we dont know
b/ jamaica basing its popular knowledge of literary figures on the league of extraordinary gentlemen
c/ wayne wonder hates all classic breaks

r|t|c, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

the midi horns are good too

r|t|c, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

AND pras is on it now, what more do you need

r|t|c, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

"wah wah no one likes dancehall, all the critics have gone away what do i do now, if its vital go somewhere else, where is st3lfox to guide me"

suit yrselves!

r|t|c, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPBTIERFrg

they want fi war me / so mi send for mi army / bullet a spread dem like ISSEY MIYAKE??!!?!?!?!

r|t|c, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 11:57 (eighteen years ago)

textbook terrible 2k7 tune but seriously, am i mishearing that chorus? or does pleats please really leave badman weak inna knees

r|t|c, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 12:03 (eighteen years ago)

"wah wah no one likes dancehall, all the critics have gone away what do i do now, if its vital go somewhere else, where is st3lfox to guide me"

suit yrselves!

-- r|t|c, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 11:55 (4 hours ago)

what?

am0n, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

i'm saying that 90% of the time everyone's happy to meta-moan about the lack of dancehall love on ilm and beyond for the last year or two, but when it comes down to something as basic as chatting about specific tunes it's zero new answers all day long.

sry to get my knickers in a bunch but i don't really get it

r|t|c, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

what meta-moaning? did those posts get erased or somthing? seems more like ur moaning about people not responding immediately to ur posts. cry me a river to babylon

p.s. Pras is textbook wack!!!

am0n, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

my knickers in a bunch

yes

but i don't really get it

and yes

Confounded, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Anybody seen this?

http://www.vpreggae.com/scripts/itemdetail.asp?IK=VP1761.2

I'm guessing it sucks, but I'm willing to be surprised.

Confounded, Sunday, 22 July 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

Also, what are some tracks produced by Daseca that I should check? I am really feeling the ways he puts together street drama and that dance feel on "Badman Place."

Confounded, Sunday, 22 July 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

GUNS AND GIRLS AND GANJAAAA

deej, Monday, 13 August 2007 08:45 (seventeen years ago)

umm?

Confounded, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

Answered my own Daseca question:

http://www.reggaeid.co.uk/producers.php?producer=Craig%20%22Daseca%22%20Marsh&PHPSESSID=5761ce0405c680dcd6d

Confounded, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

Hey, so this Che'Nelle song...does it just use the beat from R. Kelly's Reggae Bump Bump, or is that tune already jacking a dancehall beat?

Jordan, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

http://a610.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/m_27760abd7d6abe0487e5a569c4f32901.jpg

1. Parental Advisory
2. Angriest Introduction
3. Real McKoy With A Full Clip (With Busy Signal)
4. Weh Dem A Do
5. A Father's Prayer
6. They Fear Me
7. Definition Of A Gangster
8. Dreaming
9. Don't Cry
10. Cassava Piece Radio
11. Dying (With Serani)
12. David's Interlude
13. Top Shotta Nah Miss
14. Joey D Ratt
15. Last Night
16. A Snitch's Eulogy
17. Amazing Grace
18. Touch The Road
19. Me And My Dogs
20. APB
21. Gully Side
22. Squeeze Breast
23. Heart Beat
24. Sadness
25. Born & Raised

am0n, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago)

^ haven't listened to it yet.

i did hear the new mr. vegas "hot it up", pretty good. raging bull feat. overmars is pretty crazy. listen here: http://www.myspace.com/mrvegas

am0n, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

ooh cheers, didnt know that was out. sounding good so far, but my general qualms w/ him will probly remain.

that chenelle is biting the kells alone, yeah.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

Thx. I kinda love that Kells track, btw.

Jordan, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago)

Aidonia - "Ukku Bit" on the Dem Time Deh riddim = *flames*. And "Straight Happiness" on the Inevtiable riddim is amazing as well.

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago)

have you heard slow wind rmx? much prefer that.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago)

I have to check out the Mavado album, "Weh Dem A Do" was one of my faves from last year.

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago)

no I don't think I've heard that. link?

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

haha inevitable riddim is that horrible chav trance number innit? check out earthquake riddim (esp the capleton!), it's kind of a tooled up version of that rihanna/sean paul single along the same lines, but better. i daresay it's rather dexplicit-ish, come to think of it.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

oh the slow wind wz in response to jordan, it's r kelly / akon / sean paul from maybe a year or two ago?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago)

haha yeah it is sort of trance-y/IDM-ish, but I think it's great. "Everybody Dance" by Meritol Family sort of has a similar thing going on. I will check out the earthquake riddim.

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

yeah ,this one. this is still always on uk urban radio even tho it made little splash really.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

have you heard slow wind rmx? much prefer that.

Yeah, I still like Reggae Bump Bump better, it sounds way harder.

Jordan, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago)

meritol! now ur talking. check their 'dutty whine' and 'frog back' from last year immediately

it's kind of interesting that there's like this further level of pure underground boshing dance stuff just for illustrating dances operating below all ur fave artists on riddims - like sample king's bird flu or badman fwd badman pullup

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago)

also brainwasher you shd check beenie man 'heart attack again', which is pretty much the part 2 to my beloved global riddim last year ONLY EVEN HARSHER AND MENTALIST. i heard it coming out of a car outside my house yesterday and it was the greatest sound ever.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago)

have you heard mr. vegas/ overmars - Raging Bull

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago)

will check that out right now.

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

yeah like amon sez, good stuff. it was actually on reggae gold 2007 but i must have missed it in amongst the rest of the shite on that cd.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

plus yknow he is called overmars. can't go wrong with football refs.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago)

The fader has up the new Sean Paul single "Watch Dem Roll" on the Tremor Riddim:

http://thefader.com/blog/articles/2007/08/22/audio-sean-paul-watch-dem-roll

This riddim is pretty sick, other good tunes on it - "amazing grace" by mavado and "from dem dis" by TOK

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago)

hot

Jordan, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago)

the guy who made it is only 16!!!!

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago)

yes but he's also freddie mcgregor's son.

props tho!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago)

shit but that also means he was making proper riddims when he was what, 14? cos i'm sure he's he's been around a bit. crazy.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.yardflex.com/archives/000114.html

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago)

i like that tremor riddim

picked up a couple greensleeves reissues, barrinton levy "englishman" and wayne jarrett "chip in". both are junjo/scientist/roots radics produced. the jarrett is recommended if you like his wackies stuff

am0n, Thursday, 23 August 2007 00:21 (seventeen years ago)

which 1 guy responsible morphology t' words #1st name!? ;]

luriqua, Thursday, 23 August 2007 00:29 (seventeen years ago)

Englishman is good, but I like Shaolin Temple even better. I think both are still on sale at Ernie B's.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 23 August 2007 00:55 (seventeen years ago)

so is "raging bull" also the name of the riddim

am0n, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago)

no, i think it's a one shot. coincidentally what some on slsk list as raging bull riddim is the same as the earthquake riddim i mentioned above.

r|t|c, Thursday, 23 August 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

more myspace riddims pls

Jordan, Thursday, 23 August 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

man i wanna hear other voicings over raging bull!

am0n, Thursday, 23 August 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

This looks amazing:

http://hosted.greensleeves.easynet.co.uk/bio/biogBobby.html

Alex in SF, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

yeah definitely. i saw one of his mixes recently but passed on it. i should go back for it as it looked pretty old.

also want to hear this
http://hosted.greensleeves.easynet.co.uk/bio/biogsaxon.html

am0n, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago)

http://whocorkthedance.blogspot.com/

wo0o0o0o0ooOoOw e__e

am0n, Saturday, 1 September 2007 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

bohhhhh!!!!!

http://dancehallrevival.podomatic.com/

http://www.dancehallreggae.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14

am0n, Saturday, 1 September 2007 02:30 (seventeen years ago)

that wayne jarrett mentioned above is excellent btw. his singing is so eerily similar to horace andy that it's easy to forget it's not him. jarrett is more mid-range, doesn't really go for high notes like andy sometimes does

am0n, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

brick and lace - "love is wicked" = A+++++

impudent harlot, Sunday, 23 September 2007 06:25 (seventeen years ago)

actually wow this entire album is fucking great (mini-album? there seems to be only seven songs on it?)

impudent harlot, Sunday, 23 September 2007 06:39 (seventeen years ago)

promo sampler thing, i think. (hear it here!) brick n lace bring out the same reactions in me i usually get with this kinda stuff ('pon de replay', tami chynn, chenelle, kat deluna 4 instance) - wanting to maintain judicious standardz in the face of the tedious superovervalorization idealism agenda people will instantly spew all over it, and then after a while going 'oh well' and enjoying the randomness. so i cringe at hearing bleeding diwali riddim in 2007 on 'love is wicked', but then... yeah, you know.

'bust a shot' is ace though. reggae psk!!

r|t|c, Sunday, 23 September 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago)

also re kat deluna: erm, have to hand it to teh fader one this one, cos they basically took the words right out of my mouth. song is totally awesome.

r|t|c, Sunday, 23 September 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago)

yeah at first i was kinda like "diwali AGAIN?" but goddamn if it doesn't eternally hit some pleasure-center for me, even like four years after the fact

impudent harlot, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 05:10 (seventeen years ago)

lol@ "is Sean Kingston the black Matisyahu?"

am0n, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 05:31 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

So Paris yielded TOK's Unknown Language and Tanya Stephens' Gangsta Blues for pretty cheap.

But new albums by Vybz, Elephant, Sizzla and Assassin are more expensive.

Given it'd be a bitch to find them in Australia, are any of these worth picking up anyway?

Tim F, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:14 (seventeen years ago)

which vybz and elephant are you talking about

am0n, Thursday, 11 October 2007 02:07 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, the last vybz i know of was jmt from last year. if nothing on there rings a bell it's probably worth it.

the elephant's on badboy, surely not that hard to find? i wasn't feeling it anyway - massive missed opportunity as ever. awkwardly not enough riddims, awkwardly not enough not-riddims. you know what i mean.

sizzla seems to have 5 albums every year, i stopped keeping track. he's not having a vintage year on the riddim front i don't think, but that's been misleading for him before too.

the assassin is a must buy. i haven't heard it, but he appears to be sporting a daring pair of velvet pixie booties with pink ribbon laces on the cover. MUST BUY.

good albums from this year are vegas and lady saw. the mavado i still can't be bothered to get around to, maybe someone else can help out there. finally: sod all that and get the busy signal album. HE IS THE TOP-A-TOP OF HIS PROFESSION.

r|t|c, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

didn't know elephant man's bad boy album had dropped. kinda curious about it

am0n, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago)

Mr. Vegas coming to the Crossroads club near DC Wednesday. Should I regret that I can not attend?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 October 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

he's fucking classic, helluva voice

am0n, Monday, 15 October 2007 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

I just checked out his myspace site and some samples at allmusic. He's a singjay alright.

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 October 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61KxlNRuCBL._SS500_.jpg

am0n, Monday, 15 October 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago)

u_u

anyone heard... anything

r|t|c, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

rip rakkas btw

r|t|c, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

http://iriespot.blogspot.com/search/label/Assassin

also

http://www.roots-archives.com/display_artwork/7793.jpg

out on Equalizer

am0n, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.roots-archives.com/display_artwork/7793.jpg

am0n, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41g97JaykML._SS500_.jpg

am0n, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

wtf @ rakkas on "mad decent"

am0n, Friday, 19 October 2007 18:38 (seventeen years ago)

yeah heard the assassin, didn't do much 4 me. i like 'boring gal' tho, v loose and lively etc

tbf with rakkas it's not so much the label as the influence - actually no, not influence - the freedom they're being indulged in (cos they'd already got progressively more tryhard even before hollerdudes reached out), listen to the clips it's just one blunderingly obvious excess after another

r|t|c, Friday, 19 October 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

that konders oldskool mix is coooooold btw, i never really rated him b4 but yeah

r|t|c, Friday, 19 October 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

Konders is dj'ing tonight at the Crossroads, outside DC. Another last-minute added show there, with Baby Cham. I missed that Mr. Vegas show there the other night.

Kardinall Official (Spelling?) sounded good freestyling with others on a short black and white tv short thing shown during the BET Hiphop Awards btw. It's on again tonight.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

that konders mix has nuff 90s bounty killer so i don't doubt its hotness

i was lukewarm at first about busy signal's 'step out' but that is really the shit. has anyone counted how many references to other tunes are contained in 'that bad'?? best of '07 so far, though i haven't given an ear to the mavado and lady saw yet

am0n, Monday, 22 October 2007 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

that's twice now i've missed cham at crossroads, great

am0n, Monday, 22 October 2007 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

cham's weh dem feel like is classic 07 material in case anyone missed it

busy is probably my favourite mc in the world right now in any genre. (haha, just felt like a big ridic statement there.) but yeah great hooks, great flows and just a tru dedication to switching it up all day long - no one else makes as many crafty playful little one off songs on the side of the usual riddim work circuit, i keep meaning to do some sort of non-album comp cos oh my gosh it would absolutely slay

i see http://www.myspace.com/onebusysignal is pretty up to date for recent busy. 'nah go jail' is already the anthem, but check the mental conversational first verse on 'no escape', and 'pon di edge' and ... yeah they're all super good!!

r|t|c, Monday, 22 October 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago)

also check out his excellent new ones on the shadow and dark again riddims, his one on lenky's swazzi riddim from a few months back, and if you'll gimme a moment... i'll throw up 'my world' myself

r|t|c, Monday, 22 October 2007 03:18 (seventeen years ago)

thanks for that track, he does seem really versatile (i don't know what i was on upthread where i said he was jocking vybz/beenie). 'no escape' is on some kinda ninjaman 'border clash' tip haha.

and that cham is great, hadn't heard that one

what's a good site for tracking riddims as they release? i'd be inclined to bump this thread more often if i had an easy way to follow them. as it is i mostly follow the annual comps and any artist albums. i know at least juno's pretty good for sampling tracks

am0n, Monday, 22 October 2007 07:03 (seventeen years ago)

petty thief riddim from last year is killin me

am0n, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago)

that one's pretty good

Jordan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

jordan you said that last lady saw was good right

am0n, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

weird, greensleeves must have changed the name of that petty thief cos i'm sure it used to be known as man fi dead. anyways busy and buju completely spank that riddim!

i don't know what i was on upthread where i said he was jocking vybz/beenie

nah i thought the same re vybz at first. i guess as the first of the modern rapper generation or something he's always gonna be the reference point for any new deejay that isn't rinsing a particular gimmick. aidonia is another one who came out at the same time that's still labouring under his shadow imo, and i guess that idiotic alliance crew thing bounty killer's wasting everyone's time with is all to do with it too

what's a good site for tracking riddims as they release?

really and truly you can't beat the radio - if you check the robbo ranx, young lion & goldfinger shows on 1xtra and radio1 every week you will be more than sorted, pretty much as the riddims come out online if not before. (konders puts his show up online as well but i never have the time.) everything else is seriously a lot more hassle for not a lot else to gain; in 03/04 i'd have def advocated some interweb cratedigging what with so much going on in the margins, but it doesn't seem necessary now. however: ragga is all slsk's good for, so maybe latch on to some of the big hitters in the reggaegalaxy room (da merel and digitalbashment for instance) and keep checking their files; there's a guy on d3monoid who ups the new riddims pretty clockwork; there's a riddim list thread on dancehallreggae.com forums i think; juno, soundquake and africanbeat are still the shopsites to check

r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago)

also amon if ur on the oldskool tip you should check ward 21's rae riddim (sick new buju on it, cobra's good too) and steelie and clevie's problem riddim that robbo's just started playing (lexxus out of semi-retirement! feels like it anyway)

r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

haha the reggaegalaxy room. i had been looking at soundquake recently. alwasy forget about the itunes radio stations, like bigupradio.com is a good one

diggin on the mavado "gangsta for life". too heavy on the skits...sorry "interludes", but otherwise it's good.

oh and those rakkas samples upthread, the under mi sensi remix alone is terrible and the rest aren't much better.

am0n, Saturday, 27 October 2007 07:15 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79K8MrZwHXI

r|t|c, Saturday, 27 October 2007 10:06 (seventeen years ago)

lmao

am0n, Sunday, 28 October 2007 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

"elbow dem" A++++

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 28 October 2007 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XTf7vH9OL._AA240_.jpg

1. These Are The Days - Busy Signal
2. What We Gonna Do - Bugle
3. Tek It To Them (Rum Ram) - QQ
4. Tek Weh Yuhself - Mr. Vegas
5. Tease Her - Anthony B
6. Bubble Like Soup - Timberlee & Ward 21
7. Product Of The Ghetto - Beenie Man
8. Wha Dem Feel Like - Cham
9. Yuh A Wife - Vybz Kartel
10. Mi Fraid - Munga
11. Crazy Talk - Buju Banton
12. Own Thing - Munga
13. Still Deya - Bounty Killer
14. Hoola Hoop - Macka Diamond
15. Back It Up - Beenie Man
16. Rising - Busy Signal
17. Earthquake - Munga
18. Give It Up - Beenie Man & Barbee

s'ok. from it i learned that #14 macka 'hoola hoop' is good, and that i like the bluetooth riddim wot #12 and one of the mavado album tracks is on. also, timberlee is very underrated.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

nice. isn't QQ like 10 yrs old or something

am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

his name always makes me think of Q('.' Q)

am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF_10IC5R00

am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago)

About This Video

Busy Signals latest release, "The Days", a dramatic piece depicting the struggles and hardships in modern Jamaican society.

^^ indeed

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

btw QQ "Stookie" = !!!!!!

http://www.gofish.com/player.gfp?gfid=30-1063773

am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago)

jordan you said that last lady saw was good right

i think someone else said that but yeah, i like it a lot

Jordan, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

haha, i love the freestyle section in the middle of this one (too bad the bucket drumming is shitty)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hJGLBu94rU

Jordan, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago)

haha i prefer the bit where he goes "TOE tag" and kicks a bodybag

then "escape on bicycle, mi nuh drive"

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago)

LOVE 'silly games' on that lady saw album btw, big soppy musical number oasis in the middle of yr usual pitbull-in-a-skirt antics

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBKowgK41E0

am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GNrbB74y8k

average ass, classic tune

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzFF0mC0xfg

^ lool

am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

gah

xpost

Jordan, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago)

haha why does jamaica love spongebob so much!!

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago)

not saying it doesn't make total cosmic sense, but still

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

hey thread, tell me what blatantly obvious tune ele is interpolating here

http://www.zshare.net/audio/4557383be7e5bb/

it has bugged me like all year

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

(btw amon that timberlee is on the rae riddim i was talking about!)

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

xxpost - dora too

they get similar treatment by b-more club producers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSqOaLA3ogM

am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

that ele is stevie wonder 'part-time lover' i think?

am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

trust b-more club to ruin everything

DUHHH OH YEAAAAAH!!!! THNX!!

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

certainly one of ele's subtler connoisseur efforts

r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

(btw amon that timberlee is on the rae riddim i was talking about!)

ok yea i usually dig ward 21 productions

am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20071021/ent/ent1.html

Dancehall records street law
published: Sunday | October 21, 2007

Krista Henry and Melville Cooke

Dancehall music has often been accused of spreading violence with persons like deejay Mavado, a self-proclaimed 'gangsta for life', spouting lyrics such as "gunshot inna ya farrid". However, on the other side of dancehall, there are artistes who speak to justice in the streets through violence against pedophiles, petty criminals and murderers, seeming to urge citizens to take justice into their own hands.

In the 2005 song Gash Dem, deejay Chuck Fendah advocates that the Almighty 'gash' and 'light' criminals for their actions, seeing fire as the way to pay them back their crimes. He identifies the targets as "a big man like you/rape off a six-year-old baby/a big man like you/pop off yuh gun and put nine pon a likkle ole lady/a big man like you bun dung a school and a talk bout yuh mad sick and crazy". Fender calls on the 'Moses Law', which speaks to an eye for eye rather than leaving punishment to the formal justice system.

Gash Dem came under scrutiny from the Broadcasting Commission, which felt the song was unfit for airplay. However, in a subsequent interview with THE STAR entitled 'Fendah Won't Bow', he said that persons wanted him to change his song to enforce a more legal form of punishment. He said, "Somebody from the RJR Group was saying that a better mi seh 'try dem an hang dem' because at least dat more legal, but wi nah change nutt'n. A suh di people dem love it an a suh it come spiritual. Di song nuh have nuh violence inna it. It deeper dan wah dem a think, but from yuh a carry Jah banna yuh a guh get a fight. If dem want mi tek out 'gash dem an lite dem' outa it mi nah guh do dat. Is a spiritual fire mi a bun. Dis song is a correction to wah a gwaan inna Earth."

As a follow-up to Gash Dem, Fendah recorded Freedom of Speech, which begins "a wah dem a try, a di people dem rights dem a try fi deny?" He continues: "I hope unno see it, seh poor people nuh have nuh freedom of speech."

Long before Fendah's gashing, in Buju Banton's early career on the 1990s he hit the dancehall with Man Fi Dead rasping in one version that "man fi dead/tell yuh seh mi nah save nuh lead/gunshot a buss inna petty tief head".

And after Fendah, came deejay Baby Cham, speaking to survival, crime and how justice is brought to in the streets. In Conscience he cries "what coulda possess a man, fi tun a AK-47 pon a young ooman" and declares "man nuh rape likkle pickney inna Jamaica and nuh dead". In Wha Dem Feel Like he turns his lyrical ammunition on the police, saying that in the ghetto they have no power. He deejays: "Bwoy go run go station/chat till him blue/ sell information on mi and mi crew/ what uh tink di police can do?/ Wha di hell di police can do?" The last line is borrowed from a popular Echo Minott song of the mid-1980s, that song speaking to domestic violence.

Cham adequately speaks to a lack of faith in the police and the formal justice system. It is a belief that has seemed to increase over the years and has repercussions in the number of mob killings in the island. Mob killing usually occurs when a community takes justice into their own hands for a wrong committed on their neighbour, friend or family. In a report by The Gleaner entitled 'Mobs cry for blood - Robber killed by angry Gordon Town residents' it was reported that 20 persons were killed by mobs in 2003, while in 2004, mob-related killings resulted in 21 deaths.

Reacting to the rising level of mob killings, in the article Justice Minister A. J. Nicholson noted, "the necessity for all institutions in the society to give their backing to the forces of law and order." He argued that, "when mixed signals are sent by groups, inside and outside of our society, constantly denigrating the forces of law and order, citizens are encouraged to break the law."

According to Donna Hope, lecturer in the Reggae Studies Unit at the University of the West Indies (UWI), popular culture is used to bring to light issues that are problematic for the people. "I believe the music is a reflection and reinforcement for things that happen. The idea of the informal justice system is more real; what happens around people comes out in the music. There is also a lack of confidence in the formal system of justice. The network of justice in some communities moves much swifter, while court cases takes a much longer time. Informal justice brings for some more satisfaction, even though it's not a legal framework," she told The Sunday Gleaner.

Mob killings are certainly not new in Jamaica. One of the more notorious, relatively recent incidents took place in Flankers, Montego Bay, on December 15, 1995, when an American businessman, John Beckett, was beaten after his car hit and overturned a soup cart at a street dance.

Beckett, who was also robbed of his jewellery, was flown to the United States of America for treatment, but died in hospital.

After two trials, the jury failing to reach a unanimous verdict in the first in 1997 and the judge instructing the jury to return a verdict of not guilty in 1999, the three men accused of the murder were acquitted.

It was a rare instance when a case of mob killing actually reached the courts as, in most instances, no one is even arrested much less charged and put on trial. In fact, there are instances where the act is celebrated.

One such came 10 years after the killing in Flankers when, in April 2005, farmers in Mendez Town, Trelawny, chopped and killed two yam thieves. The Gleaner reported in April 2005 that "jubilation ran high and distilled spirits (rum) flowed freely after the killings, as scores of farmers gathered to celebrate the demise of those whom they said have been causing them misery."

Not everyone was in agreement with the killing and the story continued "according to the eyewitness, he went to look at the men and saw them tied up. He said that he told the mob to wait on the police. But his pleas fell on deaf ears as those who were hungry for instant justice took matters in their own hands by hacking and stoning the men to death."

And there have been times when the police have actually held back those baying for blood, as occurred in Morant Bay, St. Thomas, on February 27, 2006. A suspect was taken into custody for the killing of five persons from one family, Patrice Martin-McCool, nine-year-old Sean Chin Jr., three-year-old Marshall George McCool, nine-year-old Jesse O'Gilvie and Terry-Ann Mohammed, all from Duhaney Pen, St. Thomas.

A mob descended on the police station and The Gleaner reported: "Him fi dead, give we him mek we kill him," shouted members of the angry mob, whose boisterous behaviour forced the police to close the doors of the station for more than an hour."

Mob killing has also spilled over into the realms of higher education, as 23-year-old Ricardo Anglin was killed on the campus of the University of Technology in 2003. Then, on Tuesday, April 4, last year, a man who allegedly made homosexual advances on a male student was chased and saved from an uncertain fate by the police, who had to fire shots in the air to disperse a crowd which had hurled missiles at them as they protected the fugitive

am0n, Friday, 2 November 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

old but holy shit vybz kartel on mudslide rhythm!!!!!

am0n, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.soundquake.com/mp3/135541.mp3

am0n, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

^ them's the days.

listening to steven mcgregor's beehive riddim - beenie, vybz - kinda the epitome of today's general vibe. ie rolling atmospheric martial war business, slight nod to badman oldskool (stink riddim here), maybe a little deejayish/rappish vocal manipulation, quite hype when yr in the ruffneck mood but usually pretty drab and wearying at the same time.

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 November 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago)

first single from bounty killer's alliance supercrew (bounty, mavado, bling dawg, busy signal, wayne marshall) is way better than i thought it'd be. i guess!

only other cool thing bounty's done this year is this, afaik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wr2aeu1vE4

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 November 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago)

hm, don't often hear about behind-the-scenes ragga songwriters:

Serani also crafted the lead phrase on Sean Paul's Billboard smash, "We Be Burning," as well as on singles such as Tony Matterhorn's anthemic "Dutty Wine," Busy Signal's "These Are the Days," Bugle's breakout hit "Exercise," Elephant Man's "Willie Bounce," and Mavado's international hit "Dying," the first track on which he also featured as an Artiste

http://www.yardflex.com/archives/001583.html

dancehall ne-yo! 'she loves me' and munga's 'whine pon it' is such a killer singjay radio one-two right now.

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 November 2007 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

alliance track is sick

i remember reading about how dave kelly, in addition to producing, ghostwrote most of cham's stuff including "ghetto story"

am0n, Thursday, 8 November 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

Mudslide was always one of my faves. I think my favourite version is Assassin's "Want To Be Free".

Tim F, Thursday, 8 November 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago)

hey tim, how'd you get on with yr paris purchases

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

good thread for zsharing.. some tracks on Back Ache, Airwaves and Chinkuzi

http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=863577&page=4

Confounded, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago)

mix

http://dancehallreggae.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131180

Confounded, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago)

well confounded i for one am glad you thought to check the sohh.com ladies room for dancehall.

r|t|c, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

mix

mix i did not enjoy

Confounded, Saturday, 10 November 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago)

I ran out of time to go back and get anything in Paris rtc - I saw the Busy Signal album in Amsterdam but it was 30 euro, so I passed. I have been downloading some of his 07 stuff though - excellent! Can I be rude and ask for your top 5 2007 Busy Signal stunners?

Tim F, Saturday, 10 November 2007 04:05 (seventeen years ago)

In particular (and it may not even be from 2007) i am in love with "Me Nuh Go A Jail Again". So good!

Tim F, Sunday, 11 November 2007 13:03 (seventeen years ago)

killer innit. "and we never gonna fail again / like a ship we a go sail again" gets me every time - it really is like a big homeward bound prison ship the way it rocks gently on, and with the call and response. totally nails that emotional sweet spot somewhere inbetween regret and determination and complicit gangsta pride.

haha only asking for 5 is a bit rude yeah! i'm still thinking. although it's kinda funny, on an out and out 07 bangers list someone like ele would still seem a lot stronger than busy, despite being seen as having an unremarkable year in comparison. maybe busy requires a bit of getting into and contextualization, i dunno.

r|t|c, Monday, 12 November 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago)

"totally nails that emotional sweet spot somewhere inbetween regret and determination and complicit gangsta pride."

Ha ha YES it is so conflicted - could we add "desperation" to that list too? Is that a very slight amount of T-Pain studio fuckery going on too? The way he says "more" and "sure" - "mooueuer" and "shooourer"!

Thing about Busy is, despite the formal similarity to, oh, Vybz with a touch of Wayne Marshall a lot of the time, I suspect the effect of his overloaded vocal over-investment is more like maybe Sizzla at his very best - where he may not make the best cut or even a top 3 cut on a riddim, but the result is totally compelling on its terms.

Tim F, Monday, 12 November 2007 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, it's something a bit stronger than regret isn't it. "you woulda never see me call mi friend fi bail again", oh the shame. and not to mention having next man a plait your hair, of course.

r|t|c, Friday, 16 November 2007 01:58 (seventeen years ago)

anyone heard?
http://www.vpreggae.com/images/catalog_images/VP1810.jpghttp://www.vpreggae.com/images/catalog_images/VP1811.jpg

Confounded, Friday, 16 November 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/4317770a11f3ca/

http://forums.sohh.com/images/smilies/violent_01.gif

am0n, Thursday, 22 November 2007 05:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/5084711339c252/

GUNDELERO... THE NEW NAME FI RUDEBOY!

http://www.zshare.net/audio/5084738e01f610/

PICK A LICKLE TUNE PON MI BAN-JO!

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2007 13:32 (seventeen years ago)

always love the cowboy cobra moments, they seem to catch on some deep truth about him

the noble stoic gangsta of a john wayne

the weary loner's fuck you of a robert mitchum

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

sorry about the busy sig list delay btw tim, i keep getting distracted :(

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

ohh ele had a fabulous cowboy one a couple of years ago, one sec i must find it

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

both of those strictly the best comps are dire. the lady saw track on 37 is great but the rest overlaps with other comps too much. 38 is more about one-drop type stuff but most of it sounds like lite-jazz :'(

am0n, Thursday, 22 November 2007 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

supa hype - uptown driver

am0n, Friday, 23 November 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVUFftId0W4

am0n, Friday, 23 November 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

That's too bad about the STB since the covers this year are really good. I notice Greensleeves cut their end of year comps down to single CD which a mostly useless DVD taking the place of the second CD. Sigh.

Alex in SF, Saturday, 24 November 2007 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

It's The Pitchfork Year in Reggae/Dancehall Everybody!

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 November 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.rototomsunsplash.com/sunny/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/alborosie.jpg

pretty sure that's rick rubin in a gag dread hat

am0n, Thursday, 29 November 2007 23:59 (seventeen years ago)

http://lick-a-shot.blogspot.com/

http://forums.sohh.com/images/smilies/violent_01.gif

am0n, Friday, 7 December 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOCPpJCayNw

am0n, Saturday, 8 December 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago)

awesome ninjaman cameo at the end

am0n, Saturday, 8 December 2007 01:04 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.17northparade.com/

^ vp's reissue label. picked up the toyan 'spar with me', solid junjo rhythms, sound quality is great, bass is real heavy. curious about how the yellowman and little john ones compare.

not sure i get the point of this greensleeves comp.. i guess it's tracks from this years roots/reissues but seems kinda random. that konders-produced chezidek album sounds good judging by the samples. noticed some reissues i didn't know about.. ranking dread, cocoa tea/cutty ranks

am0n, Sunday, 16 December 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago)

lol talking to myself this month

am0n, Sunday, 16 December 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

forgot to mention, 17 north parade also did single-disc reissues of all four volumes of joe gibbs' african dub almighty series

am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 05:22 (seventeen years ago)

bumpaclaat

am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago)

I will be on the 2008 version of this thread. Just didn't have the heart for it in 2007.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

awesome ninjaman cameo at the end

-- am0n, Saturday, December 8, 2007 1:04 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

^^^this beat kills. i'd rather hear someone other than shaggy for most of it, though.

Jordan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PQ2%2BUkpwL._AA280_.jpg


1. Church Heathen Shaggy 4:03
2. The Pastor Ninja Man 3:11
3. Lef Dem To Time (Radio) Elephant Man Feat. Jigsy 2:51
4. Bangin' Tree Red Fox 2:55
5. Love Machine (Radio) Rik Rok & Screechy Dan 3:08
6. Juvenile Ky-enie 3:33
7. Boomerang Nanny Rayvon 2:27
8. Caan Fool Gal No More Goldenchyl 3:22
9. The Gospel Shelly Thunder 2:54
10. In Da Club D'lynx 3:08
11. Gal Alone Wayne Fire 2:59

am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago)

ele's is fire

am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3eumKnznVE

am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago)

sweet

Jordan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

"forgot to mention, 17 north parade also did single-disc reissues of all four volumes of joe gibbs' african dub almighty series"

In a way, I'd prefer the single disc versions to the to 1 & 2 on one disc and 3 & 4 on another versions I have. After 70 plus minutes they get a little wearying and I suspect I've never given 2 and 4 quite the fair shake because of it, consequently.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 27 December 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

and you get to see the the original covers, or at least most of them. the label is putting some sort of stamp on all the reissue covers, kind of annoying but it could be worse.

it'll be interesting to see what they do with the penthouse catalogue.

am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago)

http://reggaefirst.com/music/11-busy_signal-holdin_firm.wma

am0n, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)


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