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Atlanta’s Fox 5 reports that a police SWAT team in conjunction with RIAA anti-piracy agents raided DJ Drama’s Gangsta Grillz recording studio earlier today and arrested both he and fellow Aphilliate Don Cannon on piracy charges. The ramifications of something like this are potentially pretty huge for high profile mixtape DJ’s. The RIAA just disgusts me to the point where I don’t want to ever pay for a retail cd again in my life.
They didn’t seem to mind a year ago when Drama was promoting T.I. and pushing his album to Gold status in a week. And check out the report below and notice how even though the cops didn’t find any illegal drugs or weapons, they were sure to mention how the discovery of such contraband is typical during these raids on "counterfeiters." In the video they are clearly confiscating boxes of Gangsta Grillz mixtapes, yet they act like these guys were in there burning copies of retail albums.

report, which is full of OMG PIRACY FUNDS TERRORISM speculation, is here

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

dat's dat babymomma drama

― Wrinklecause for Applause! (Wrinklepaws), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

"Atlanta is seen as a hub of the Southeast. Authorities say anytime anybody wants a CD they can find it here in Atlanta."

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

who is TI? who is Drama?
I've never heard of these people...

― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hell's Angels Raid Canal Street, Details at 10

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

this is fucked

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

haha I watched this on the news today after American Idol and didn't think much of it, but I guess it's big news, then

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 17 January 2007 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

why dont police go after the real criminals here? like that guy that does the voiceover watermarks on hot 97 promo cds.

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

gangsta

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the major labels/RIAA had an unacknowledged truce with the big DJs.

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

did anyone read Jonathan Lethem's article in Harper's that has to do with this sort of thing?

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

it sort of sums it up well i think

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

im gonna not take your word for it

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

how far back was the article?

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 06:45 (nineteen years ago)

Harper's Grillz

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 07:07 (nineteen years ago)

See, some people would suggest that the RIAA is run by racist motherfuckers. But not me, oh no.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

bump

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

seems this would be a good time for the president of def jam and perhaps his bosses at universal, which is the riaa's largest and presumably most influential member, to stand up and say something.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Like, "Sucks for you"?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

so are they saying their mixtapes are illegal, or that they were fully bootlegging other cds? or both?

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I guess they could make a case for the occasional album track on those mixtapes being illegal, or even the jacked beats from the freestyles, but it sounds like all the CDs they found were Gangsta Grillz discs, not bootleg copies of major label albums. Drama's one of the few mixtape DJs who makes most of his money off of putting together an original product full of exclusives, there must be thousands of DJs who bootleg the hell out of albums (and Gangsta Grillz mixtapes) that they could've gone after instead.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

ok. that news story made it seem like they were bootlegging other cds, and one shot seems to show boots of king but i could be wrong

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i didn't look at it real closely so i could be totally wrong about that myself. i'd be pretty surprised if they were bootlegging King, though! dude basically works for Atlantic and T.I., why would they move units on the low that would hurt his SoundScan?

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

RIAA anti-piracy agents

what in the fuck are these?

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Read on:

The RIAA assists authorities in identifying music pirates and shutting down their operations. In piracy cases involving physical product, the RIAA works with federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies and prosecutors’ offices to coordinate seizures of pirated product. The RIAA-assisted raids have closed down hundreds of U.S. and overseas manufacturing and distributing operations, and significantly reduced illegal CD and cassette vending around the country.

In cyberspace, the RIAA’s team of Internet Specialists, with the assistance of a 24-hour automated webcrawler, helps to stop Internet sites that make illegal recordings available.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

do they still raid record stores that sell a lot of bootlegs? I remember seeing those on the news all the time in the 90s.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

i watched it again and you can see something that says t.i. king but a different cover, its probably some mixtape. the way they keep saying "bootleg" and "counterfeit" purposefully confuses the issue

gangsta grillz are carried in all the record stores i've been in recently

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

considering that the labels are basically using, in a backdoor way, mixtapes to promote artists these days (i mean you can buy dedication 2 on amazon for fucks sakes), if they let drama twist in the wind for this it...well, i was gonna say it tells you everything you need to know about majors but fucking duh, right.

i know kim's in new york got raided a few years ago. i have a feeling most of these raids are just show trials at this point.

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

like prosecuting grandma for having a bellybutton ring and using limewire

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

never. gets. old.

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sure the t.i. record is down with the king, the not-bad gangsta grillz mixtape. and yeah, these records were pretty much sanctioned as far as i knew -- MANY exclusives/"official" leaks, etc. so fucked.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

"i know kim's in new york got raided a few years ago."

Whatever happened with that? Did Kim's just pay a fine and that was that?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mondokims.com/

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

i have to guess that the RIAA is doing this without consulting or warning anybody at Atlantic, and the atlantic management probably can't say much, publicly.

plus i'd also bet dollars to donuts these "piracy agents" are the biggest wanna-be cop-show young g gordon liddy douchebags you'd ever sit across a table from. just a guess tho.

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

you may well be right, geoff, but the RIAA WORKS FOR ATLANTIC (and other labels), not the other way around, so if atlantic management doesn't say anything, that's entirely their own dumb-ass choice.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

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― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

matt sonzala:

O.K. So I spoke to a dude at the RIAA who really didn't want to do an official interview but said he would talk to me and clear up a few things I wanted to know.

I honestly didn't get a ton of solid information on the case specifically but in a nutshell the RIAA representative told me that they don't actively pursue bootleggers and mixtapes DJ's they just respond to law enforcement agencies and determine whether or not a certain product is legal or illegal. In this case he told me that the Atlanta police and police from around the state had been rounding up counterfeit product in the region and a lot of it was traced back to DJ Drama.

No, he would not distiguish whether or not this illegal product was mixtapes or actual bootlegs of commercial cds. He insisted that he was not sure about that.

I stated to him that it seemed to me that DJ Drama was one of the most legit mixtape DJ's in the game because many of his titles are directly tied to artists and/or labels and that when you listen to the tapes it's obvious through the shout outs and such that the artists have cosigned the release. For example, the Lil Wayne Dedication CD's DEFINITELY help propel Lil Wayne up a few notches on the rap scale and certainly did not hurt his promotion or the sale of his legit album last year. It's quite obvious to me, merely from listening to the disc that Lil Wayne was down with the releases, and the fact that he did two of them makes me think that the label was also quite happy with it.

I also "know" what DJ Drama has told a few artists he would charge to make them a Gangsta Grills mixtape. Even though they wear a lot of diamonds, I don't know too many individual artists who could afford to pay for that shit. The major labels, now that's a different story. I don't know everything about what dude does businesswise, but as a casual listener it seems as though the labels were definitely a part of creating a few of his releases.

And hands down, today, being on a DJ Drama tape is some A-1 promotion for any artist. It's valuable because he has made himself and his craft valuable.

Also I asked this dude about some of the "street rumors" that people have been hitting me with via IM, text and phone calls. The main rumor revolves around Houston's BCD Distribution. They are a legit distributor based here in Houston, who recently formed some sort of partnership with J. Prince of Rap-A-Lot Records and they seem to handle/distribute releases from the top mixtape DJs in the game and a lot of underground ones.

In the most recent OZONE Magazine, Wendy Day has an article about The Screw Shop in Memphis being raided and having all their mixtapes confiscated and more. In the article she basically says that the RIAA will go after this little black dude in Memphis, but won't go after the white owned company who sells mixtapes to Best Buy and major chains. Then Drama chimes in and does not name BCD outright but says soemthing like -there's a distributor in Houston who bootlegs my shit and puts it in the Best Buys and such.

I'm paraphrasing here but that's what he said. Everyone knows that BCD gets mixtapes into Best Buy. I have been to the office several times, had long conversations with the owners and they are quite adamant about only handling releases that have total clearance.

How you totally clear a mixtape, I don't fuckin' know, that's another story. I'll touch on it in a couple of paragraphs.

There's also rumors that DJ Drama recently won a court case against BCD but to be honest with you I haven't been able to find out any info on that yet, and really do not want to bother BCD with this bullshit because as far as I am concerned, at the moment, they are not involved. As my investigation progresses I will surely talk to them.

Anyway, people are saying on the street that BCD may have set DJ Drama up and sent the Feds/RIAA to his door. I honestly do not see how this could have happened, but in this business, lets just say me personally, I'm never really surprised by shit.

Keep in mind that I am only relating some hearsay type street rumors that a lot of people seem to be talking about right now.

I asked dude at the RIAA if there was any "outside influence," or if anyone ratted him out or even paid the Feds to come smack him and his people down.

He emphatically said "NO." Take that for what it's worth, but I asked him straight up if some outside entity like maybe a mixtape distributor in Texas sent them people for him and he said no.

That's what we have at the moment.

I also asked him about the Replicheck system I keep hearing about. Its basically a machine that you put the CD into and it will recognize if there's any songs that are tagged with some sort of a copyright stamp or some shit. I said "ok well what if I go and get a Lil Jon CD single, pop the instrumental into my computer as a wav file, run it through Protools, rap a verse on it, mix it and then burn it onto another CD or whatever, will the machine still recognize the copyright?" He said no. Of course not. Once you manipulate it in Protools or something similar it won't be recognized as such.

That being said, if you listen to the disc and hear some fool rapping over Lil Jon's "I Don't Give a Fuck" beat, then that person can say "Hey, did you clear this with Lil Jon?" And no, of course the mixtape DJ didn't. Does Lil Jon mind this? I don't know. I do know however that the mixtape is the #1 promotional tool for any and all rappers from here to Timbuktu. You gotta have mixtapes and you can't hate on them if you're going to function within hip hop.

Mixtapes are essential.

So in a nutshell, dude with the RIAA basically told me that the police in Atlanta "had a reason" to go at DJ Drama and Co. and that their only role was in identifying product that they deem to be infringing on copyrighted material.

All of the above came from a conversation they asked me not to record. They wanted to answer my questions so they could clear up some of the rumors, but rest assured that I am starting an investigation into this. I will be in Atlanta next week to talk to the authorities (I'm supposed to talk to a cop on the phone tomorrow), Drama and crew and some other folks, and then I am going to DC to talk directly to some folks at the RIAA and hopefully I can help get to the bottom of this and bring some clarity to the situation. The mixtape game needs some clarity.

And the RIAA dude also said that they are not at war with the mixtape DJs and do not necessarily target the mixtape DJs. But sometimes the line gets crossed and they have to go after the straight bootlegs.

Anyway, hopefully my work in the next couple of weeks will add some clarity to the situation and something positive will come out of all this craziness.

Just know that things aren't always what they seem. And at this point I don't know shit. Just what I have been told. More to come

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

note especially:

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Is it possible that the majors are doing this because they want to muscle-in on the mixtape action?

I love the way they use anti-racketeeting statutes to help them act more like gangsters.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

needless to say this is some bullshit

i went down to earwax yesterday & they were still selling tapes but most online mixtape spots just switched up to majors & dvds soon as this broke

i got no idea what the fuck business the police got with drama

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://a215.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/l_33217b6b2a74ea51c3be7c6eadbdb02e.jpg

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

MIXSTER: DA NEW MAD LEGAL MIXTAPE SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE DAT DON'T BE CHEATING *DA ARTISTS* YA HEARD?

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

anti-racketeeting

haha, racketeering, obv

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

haha ethan is that on a t-shirt already?

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but the t-shirt printers have also been arrested.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

also lmao @ 'donald cannon'

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

In the article she basically says that the RIAA will go after this little black dude in Memphis, but won't go after the white owned company who sells mixtapes to Best Buy and major chains.

See, some people would suggest that the RIAA is run by racist motherfuckers. But not me, oh no.

-- God Bows to Meth (noodle_vagu...) (webmail), January 16th, 2007. (noodle vague)

so true. feds/riaa never go after the white man.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

mickey's gangsta grillz

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

white man's bellyburden piercing.

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

sorry, sorry.

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

anyways, fbi mission right now is to branch out and attack (no matter how frivolously, or as jess puts it "show trials") all forms of copyright infringement regarding music, movies, software. they have attacked: newsgroups, warez scene, ebay/webpage bootleg sellers, bittorrent communities, and at least 1 random music forum similar to ilm that had pirated stuff on it. why the surprise that they go after mix tape community? there is absolutely nothing surprising about this.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

it's surprising because none of those people are entered into a contract with atlantic records?

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

and none of those people are selling music that major labels are using as backdoor promotional tool?

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

and that none of those people are involved in a scene/community that major labels also use as a bush leagues/majors-style recruitment tool?

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

jess, copyright infringement is copyright infringement. like that long italics dude said who kept talking about "the game," the riaa person he spoke with claimed the doj/police/whatever lead the investigation and they had little to do with it. i suspect this is true. the mythology built up around the riaa makes them into some sort of militia police force, but this is far from the truth. they mostly play a backing role, if any role at all. and if the whole thing is lead by the doj, do you think they pay attention to those nuances? do you think they have any idea about them? no. they care about two things: 1. name recognition, some sort of status within scene/community. 2. copyright infringement. nothing else matters.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not saying the department of justice cares about the distinctions. i'm saying that the particulars of thise case, especially with how it's going to play out in the media and within the hip-hop community, make it different from the fbi busting a bittorrent site.

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

but i will defer to yr insider's knowledge.

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

"the media" won't care about this. look forward to one or two more articles on it, max. they'll most likely be direct copy and paste jobs from a doj press release. how it plays out in the hip-hop community though, i'll leave that to you. i don't care about this kind of music. i'll refer to yr insider's knowledge there on how the pitchfork thug life crew will respond.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

it's got nothing to do with genre, mickey, and everything to do with major label business models. (this particular business model just happens to be hip-hop-related.)

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

only thing i have to add is, after looking at this more, it seems like federal government had nothing to do with it, and it was just local "county" operation. in that case, there's no telling where it can go. federal government has a long enough trail to be pretty consistent and predictable. when local governments prosecute copyright infringement, there's no telling. this may be dropped, this may be 5 years in prison.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

The media care a little since there's already that Kelefa Sanneh article in the NYT (which I thought was already posted here, but maybe it was another thread).

― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

jess you never told me the pfork thug life crew was rolling deep enough to move 150k of trap or die and get dedication 2 in the billboard top 40

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

young jessy

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

but yeah mickeys right this is exactly the same as his dumb ass getting busted as the bitch for w4r3z d00dz

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

This whole thing is really odd. I'm reminded of Nas' video for "Hip Hop Is Dead"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vrzy4Bp_k2Y

Nas really is a prophet.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

mickey, you're a douche.

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

ethan you are sadly confused about how these things work. there is no inside-industry politics here. this is just piss poor managing by police. the same thing that's been going on for years. only difference is this time they nabbed someone with a higher profile.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

there is no inside-industry politics here.

there is when there is a major label knowingly involving itself with the mixtape dj. fucks sake, what is your major malfunction?

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

hey mickey i was responding to you saying theres 'absolutely nothing surprising' about this & comparing it to your admittedly hilarious smalltime piracy ring

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

ban modestmickey

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

i anxiously await your posts to the BUSH ASSASSINATED WTF!?! thread to say theres nothing surprising about this since everybody dies eventually

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

am0n, please work harder at reading comprehension. the police chose to go arrest dj drama because someone higher up ordered them to target mixtape community and for whatever happenstance they landed there. "higher up" means higher up in the police ladder. no white man record label executive ordered this. there is no evidence that the riaa had anything to do with this whatsoever other than they were asked to identify if product violates copyright law. there is no evidence that atlantic records or any other record label had anything to do with this. anybody who believes anything of the sort is an idiotic conspiracy monger.

xpost
ethan, i have nothing in common with dj drama. there is nothing surprising about this when someone knows how the police operate with copyright cases. you know nothing.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

it's chill dude, mickey was just making a cosmic setup so that jess could say "white man's bellyburden piercing," let's all be cool

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

it's especially not surprising since this isn't even the first time police have gone after mixtape community. seriously, ethan, how stupid can you be?

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

when did mickey go from humorous nuisance to douche?

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Was it while I was in the Sandbox?

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno youre the one on house arrest

xpost

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.gold-group.com/images/computer_guy.gif

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

ethan, do you have an elementary school aged child you take your argument style from or have you always been that way?

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Too clever for me again, dudez!

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost)Elementary school aged children still run laps around you, dumbass.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Well he is confined to his house so it's easy enough for them.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

this thread got awesome real fast

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

someone should photoshop mickey's head onto ricci's body in the black snake moan poster

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

you know, the worst part is that i actually wasn't trying to start a mickey flame war!

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

DJ Drama has a bellybutton ring

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

can am0n think of a decent zing after realizing he is actually a fucking moron

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

you people don't even try. jesus. i miss the days when these were funny sometimes.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

cue alex in sf "these are STILL ALWAYS funny lol damn i am the zingmaster"

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

haha but they ARE!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

calling someone a 'fucking moron' = sidesplitting

ps if me and hoosteen are getting in zings give it up

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

haha deej otm

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

maybe the apocalypse crew can bail you out

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

apocalypse thug life crew

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

maybe if you keep trying you can still say something worth pasting onto noise board! keep going, ethan, you can do it! all the rap you listen to and you still can't think of a decent insult? (cue alex in sf "lol ETHAN REALLY GOT HIM!!!!")

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

at least pfork doesnt make ppl wear ankle bracelets... yet

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

untrue

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

btw mickey nobody cares that youre not impressed by their zings

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n4/n20961.jpg

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

btw ethan nobody cares about your existing

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh snap.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

ZING

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Better go post that on the noise board. I mean for a pathetic hairy palmed shut in you that was really a +1 diss.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

dude im not really worried about being clever enough to humiliate a guy who got a felony case for being the e-boyfriend of 18 yr old warez d00dz & then moralized about piracy on a website where everybody hates him & THEN stuck around for like 2 years after that to keep whining about it

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://countrylegends971.com/images/rodeo2003/ll-cool-j(1).jpg

x-post

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

waiting for my cue

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

alex, i'm banned there. you can more than handle the circlejerkery yourself.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Does he even post on the noise board?

― jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

ethan, oh, i see what you're doing. let me try: i'm not really worried about being insulted by a guy who works a shit part time job since his career as a music writer is a miserable failure and he only gets the occasional bullshit published, so he instead spends the majority of his time trying to insult people on an internet message board.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

tho i realize you wanna make about some kinda cutesy give-and-take zing war like ooh you got me! that was a good one! instead of everybody just really fuckin hating you

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm probably banned from the noise board too. I've never been to find out.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

lol xpost oh noes my career as a music writer is a miserable failure!! btw my job is actually full-time & i love it

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

tho if i needed more money i could always get a 2nd job, since im actually allowed to leave the house after dark

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

In the article she basically says that the RIAA will go after this little black dude in Memphis, but won't go after the white owned company who sells mixtapes to Best Buy and major chains.
See, some people would suggest that the RIAA is run by racist motherfuckers. But not me, oh no.

-- God Bows to Meth (noodle_vagu...) (webmail), January 16th, 2007. (noodle vague)

so true. feds/riaa never go after the white man.

-- critique de la vie quotidienne (mi...) (webmail), Today 4:07 AM. (modestmickey) (link)

but yeah mickeys right this is exactly the same as his dumb ass getting busted as the bitch for w4r3z d00dz

-- and what (an...) (webmail), Today 4:40 AM. (ooo) (link)

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

ethan you want to make this whole messageboard into a cutesy give and take zing war with a noise board hall of fame for you to jizz all over. almost every post you do here is for that goal.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Mickey, why DO you post here?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

i guess those would be in contrast with the valid & legitimate reasons you continue posting here

haha xpost

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

he's giving away the fact that he lurks the noise board even after being banned from it

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

When Mickey is acknowledged as the Paul Revere of music downloading for letting us know the riaa are coming, you'll all feel very silly

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

to post things that are not intended for noize board zing wars, e.g. every post he made on this thread before ethan showed up

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

oh no, alex in sf and ethan padgett voted me out of the clubhouse! you two faggots can keep jerking each other off in common cause. i don't have to justify my posting here.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

as if there's anything wrong with lurking on the noise board. funny stuff there sometimes.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

but nice job there am0n, you really got a good scoop!

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

haha the only really "sad" thing about ethan's writing career is that he'd rather spend his time zinging mickey than writing more reviews :'-(

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Haha I'm not voting you out of anything. I am just wondering why a guy who is as detested as you are bothers.

You really just want to be banned altogether don't you?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

id rather spend my time doing neither but afternoons go by slow here

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

i need to get a job where i'm not at a computer all day

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

you could always get a court order that bars you from using one, perhaps through committing some sort of music piracy

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

alex, go ahead, write a petition or something. you two can enjoy yourselves now, i'm meeting someone for lunch. have fun.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

that doesn't seem to have worked, ethan

xpost

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.justusboys.com/images/logo4.gif

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Better let your parole officer know where you're at then.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Mickey, on the serious, I don't think you have to be a conspiracy theorist to think that individual labels, the RIAA, and law enforcement do a lot of coordinating their agendas on copyright issues ... or that any trade everyone's profiting from is probably going to fall pretty low on that agenda.

That doesn't mean there won't be cases where the different groups' aims don't overlap. And in this case, given the "drugs and guns" line coming from police, it wouldn't surprise me if police were using copyright infringement as a pretext to raid through and go fishing for something else they thought they'd find.

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

as if there's anything wrong with lurking on the noise board. funny stuff there sometimes.

-- critique de la vie quotidienne (mi...) (webmail), January 18th, 2007 1:21 PM. (modestmickey)

http://www.vortexzone.fr/Images/Illuminations/Small/Flagellant.jpg

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

cue enraged mickey telling nabisco to get some reading comprehension

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

amon, get better zings... YOU IDIOT!

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

no, i want roast beef...YOU CLOD.

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

i am now going to imagine mickey as a character in a dave berg cartoon

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

The Lighter Side Of... Copyright Infringement

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

"the all...ighty...ollar?"

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Hey guys should we jerk each other now or should we start the petition to get rid of Mickey? My lawyer sez I need to manage my time better.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

So we need to cross this thread with the "I still have not sex" thread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Are you implying that Mickey was born without genitals?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

poor dj drama. remember him?

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

$100,000 bail seems like a hell of a lot btw.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

yeah thats outrageous

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

mickey's guide to quality zings

1. youre gay

2. you fucking idiot

3. you have a failed career as a music writer (i guess this is supposed to hurt?)

4. your insults have been heard by me before

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

i bit this

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1550185/20070118/lil_wayne.jhtml

"Smarten up," Lil Wayne advised mixtape DJs. "Smarten up."

For the past few years, Wayne has seen his entire career shift thanks to his performance on mixtapes. Street CDs such as his Gangsta Grillz classics The Dedication and The Dedication 2 have catapulted him to the lyrical elite in the minds of fans. Last year, he may have been the MC with the most material on the mixtape circuit.

"It's a bad thing," Wayne said of the Aphilliates' arrests, "but you gotta play the game fair. If you don't play fair, all kind of things can happen. You gotta watch people like DJ Clue, watch people like DJ Khaled. They do it right."

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

I Have Never Bought a Mixtape

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

haha "you gotta do it right"?? dude you WORKED WITH THE MAN

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Weird-o.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that seems pretty rude

― geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Lawyers plus new friends = stuff like that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

(btw ethan I'll stop picking on other ilxors. Jon locked that thread on noise board right before I wz gonna post that.)

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

shit like this is so frustrating. there is a specific person who set this in motion, and a specific reason why this happened. i wonder if we'll ever know.

― geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

its cool man, although coming to the thread to get all smug about how this actually really important event is the kind of thing that happens all the time & he doesnt get why anybody cares was pretty much asking for it

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

and gff im thinking more & more it was bcd like everybody is saying

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost)esp. unctuous when he basically admits he doesn't know shit about hip hop and that he doesn't listen to or buy mixtapes.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone want to write rap lyrics for DJ Drama's next mixtape, in which he warns other mixtape DJs about the dangers of illegal mixtapes?

http://i18.tinypic.com/2i12epx.jpg

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

i assumed geoff was talking about Drama

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

i assumed alex was responding to me saying mickey didnt actually contribute anything to the thread

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

no i'm not talking about Drama! not saying "he brought this on himself" or anything.

what i meant is that there's a lot of organizations at play here who look from our perspective like solid, uniform objects. but somewhere in the morass of the RIAA, FBI, Georgia & Atlanta police, there is an actual person who put this together and gave it the go ahead based on some specific pieces of information that were in front so much a complaint about this situation anymore, as much as about, like, the world)

― geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

There's something very Footloose about all this.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

It's Spencer! HE did it!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

whoa i lost some text there wtf

pieces of information that were in front of him at the time. this isn't so much a complaint about this situation anymore, as much as about, like, the world)

― geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

$100,000 bail = most places only require you to put up a small percentage (like say 10%) on condition that you show up for trial, right? (Or is that strictly a bail-bondsman offer?) In either case, it doesn't necessarily require $100K cash on the nail.

I'll be really curious to see what kinds of charges come out of this (especially to see if any non-copyright-related charges get folded in). And curious to see how he'll plead them off. (Though what would be really fascinating would be to see a well-known person actually stand trial and possibly do time as a result of this kind of copyright infringement -- not like I wish that on anyone, but the process would be really interesting.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

thats how bonding places work, dude - the court doesnt let you just pay part of your bail!!

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

They're trying to hit him with racketeering right?

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

not to get all 'i cant believe we're looking up money laundering in the dictionary!' but wtf is racketeering?

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

i mean isnt that like, mob shit?? not dorky ex-neosoul dj shit

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

to wikipedia!

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

On October 15, 1970, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (18 U.S.C. §§ 1961-1968), commonly refered to as the RICO Act, became law. The RICO Act allowed law enforcement to charge a person or group with racketeering, defined as committing multiple violations of certain varieties within a 10 year period. The purpose of the RICO Act was stated as "the elimination of the infiltration of organized crime and racketeering into legitimate organizations operating in interstate commerce." S.Rep. No. 617, 91st Cong., 1st Sess. 76 (1969). However, the statute is sufficiently broad to encompass illegal activities relating to any enterprise affecting interstate or foreign commerce.

Section 1961(10) of Title 18 provides that the Attorney General may designate any department or agency to conduct investigations authorized by the RICO statute and such department or agency may use the investigative provisions of the statute or the investigative power of such department or agency otherwise conferred by law. Absent a specific designation by the Attorney General, jurisdiction to conduct investigations for violations of 18 U.S.C. § 1962 lies with the agency having jurisdiction over the violations constituting the pattern of racketeering activity listed in 18 U.S.C. § 1961. [1]

In The United States of America, civil racketeering laws are also used in their federal and state courts. These civil laws have been challenged for being excessively abusive. [2]

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

It is mob shit. He's up on RICO charges, I believe.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

so basically, a group of people doing illegal shit = racketeering

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

% Krusty bounds to the center of the court, wearing a pair of tennis
% rackets on his ears

Krusty: Hey, hey! What do you think, folks? I hope I don't get arrested for racket-earring! [light laughter] Ahh, what do you want! I'm not gonna do "A" material for charity.

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

(Ah, okay, E -- tho I think some places the bonding's so enmeshed into the system that they set bail high and just point you in that direction.) (In any case I'm sure Drama will be able to cover some kind of bond, at least; I doubt he's gonna make like that Dipset guy and jump bail and be the most-wanted extra in Cam'ron videos and all that.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

i hope this gets covered on O'Reilly.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

i doubt it will, theres 'absolutely nothing surprising' about it

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

i have to brace myself to ask an earnest question, but:

can someone explain the relationship between these djs and labels? i mean, is it transparent or is all the rhetoric about labels backing djs just speculation? i guess i read that dj drama's label or whatever signed as an affiliate to a major, but i don't really know the extent of what a relationship like that would mean.

also, how does anyone know that a pre-king t.i. mixtape helped sell the album? it sounds like an informed opinion, but an opinion nevertheless. didn't he sell records before?

― mike powell (mike powell), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

t.i. & drama's 'the leak' was not a really big tape - i copped it, it shared basically no material with king, and it got overshadowed by 'cant ban the snowman' immediately after

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

the obv reference point here is 'trap or die', where jeezy was basically stuck in def jam limbo with cats like grafh and aztek til they saw he could move 100k in the streets with no promotion & no video play

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

yeah it's kinda funny how people are bending over backwards to point out what Gangsta Grillz tapes have done for T.I. and Wayne's careers, when those guys were basically selling records already and it probably strengthened their fanbases without necessarily making them much bigger, when Jeezy is a much more legitimate example of the effect Drama can have

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

the obv reference point here is 'trap or die'

but i mean isn't this ultimately a huge anomaly for mixtapes, i.e. the artist that really proves his worth in that context (which serves as some reassurance that he could sell 'actual' records)?

i just feel like everyone's getting really huffy about 'what this means for hip-hop,' but aren't the 'trap or die'-type scenarios really rare, esp. compared to floods of tapes that do just artlessly stitch together a bunch of songs from the radio?

― mike powell (mike powell), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

well yeah, people are stressin cuz gangsta grillz tapes were the biggest exceptions to that rule!!!!

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

but aren't the 'trap or die'-type scenarios really rare, esp. compared to floods of tapes that do just artlessly stitch together a bunch of songs from the radio?

-- mike powell (revelator...) (webmail), January 18th, 2007. (mike powell

exactly. there's enough mixtapes that are artless stitches of copyrighted songs that the riaa doesn't like. therefore, riaa views mixtape community as a problem, despite exceptions to the rule such as dj drama, dj clue, and other well known people. riaa educates police & government on mixtape "conspiracy racketeering operations" and police begin investigation. riaa/atlantic steps back, has no input or participation other than their initial lobbying. police meander around for a few years, make poor decision to target dj drama. and that's how it works. the shadowy figure behind the curtain is just some high up police authority with a pretty weak view of how mixtape community operates, just knows this general scene is his target.

the conspiracy mongering regarding racism or whatever inside-baseball type political baby mama drama are very silly.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

no, they're really not

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

show me one good piece of evidence otherwise, and i will apologize for being wrong.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

entirety of american history post-slavery
b/w
the fact that you have no more idea about the motivations and/or power moves going on behind the scenes than anyone else here

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

you really think that last part? really?

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

nothing i can say to that, then. live in your own world. i'm going to work now.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

k bye

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

So from what Mickey is saying being done by the RIAA gives you indepth knowledge of their workings. Are they like Bond villains or something? Once they catch you they reveal their heinous plot?

― jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

and like Bond villains, they've come up with a really inefficient method for getting rid of him - death by zingers on ILX

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 18 January 2007 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

RIAA to mickey: STOP SNITCHIN'

― Bernard Snowy (sixteen sergeants), Thursday, 18 January 2007 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

"entirety of american history post slavery"

america has a history of racism, therefore every time a black man is arrested by a force of people that is numerous and of unknown racial makeup (although likely majority white) it is GOOD EVIDENCE that it was a direct result of racism.

you people are beyond arguing with. take it to michelle malkin or something.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

how much was your bail, whiteboy?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 19 January 2007 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

never jailed. the riaa doesn't go after whiteboys, remember? (p.s. the fact that people here keep referring to the "riaa" busting me is evidence that the mythology surrounding them is ridiculous. they had no idea who i was until i introduced myself. the vast majority of anti-piracy related operations are done without participation by the riaa. you can either believe that or live in deej's fantasy world that is based on watching too many hbo dramas or whatever, i really don't care.)

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

Mickey have you considered that maybe YOU are the one who needs a full-time job?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

alex in sf, you know nothing about my life. don't presume you do.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

I know that you left for "work" four hours ago, because you were dumb enough to presume that everyone on this thread cared.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

We need an Ask Mickey board to confine him to or something.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

oh, so you know about my life and also the inner workings of my psychology and why i say things? how much should i pay you for these sessions?

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

hoosten, you need to shut the fuck up

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

Snappy.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

Man, you left for work less than 5 hours ago and you're back.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

welcome to the world of waiting tables. sometimes it's like that.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

How old are you, Mickey? Just curious.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

Old enough to wait tables but not too old to wait tables. You do the math.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

Really though Hoosteen there were news stories about him posted here and shit we all know what age he is. Do keep up.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

22. i just finished college a couple weeks ago. i'm working on a new job. it is difficult being under house arrest. want any more fuel for your next elementary retarded zings?

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hah, all right. Behind as per always.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

xpost, no. go away. please.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

He's even been in anti-piracy video (which he posted himself, strangely.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

Now that Mickey has appropriately sonned me, exit hoosteen.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

My life is very similar to Mickey's sans house arrest.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

Now to bed I go because this 22 year old is working tomorrow at a job more or less as menial as waitering after just finishing university.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost)So you've been the featured "pasty-faced virgin" in an RIAA video?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

what's your issue? white man riaa holding a brotha down?

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

alex in sf, 1. belly button ring, 2. house arrest, 3. poor luck with girls. this is more than enough to come up with something clever. i am, however, not a virgin. i really hope your child grows up to be similar to you. how you'd despise him and your family would fall apart.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://digitalbattle.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/argh.GIF

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

"i am, however, not a virgin."

Lockdowns a bitch, I hear.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha what the fuck kind of insult "i really hope your child grows up to be similar to you." Yeah I hope they do too obv!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

IT WILL TEAR YOUR FAMILY APART! Ya know just like I have. Dad, if you are reading this PLEASE COME HOME!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

Can you guys, like, stop egging him on please? This is really boring.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha what the fuck kind of insult "i really hope your child grows up to be similar to you."

mickey means he hopes your offspring will also be humorless XXL douchecanoes

― Wrinklecause for Applause! (Wrinklepaws), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

Can you guys, like, stop egging him on please? This is really boring.

tell it, brother

― Wrinklecause for Applause! (Wrinklepaws), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

"mickey means he hopes your offspring will also be humorless XXL douchecanoes"

Oh I'm not that humorless. I'm laughing pretty hard at your haircut.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

It was all worth it for douchecanoes

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

*ding ding* round threee

― am0n (am0n), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

Why is Mickey so mad?

― max (maxreax), Friday, 19 January 2007 05:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha what the fuck kind of insult "i really hope your child grows up to be similar to you."

It's the classic mother's curse to misbehaving teenager! Tried and true.

I totally understand how Mickey gets into bad arguments around here -- being under house arrest and getting a lot of your social interaction on the internet has got to be really frustrating. (And Mickey, that's seriously not snark or an insult: it's gotta be tough, and if I had to spend all my time home with ILX to keep me company, I'd get into some crap too.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

Salutations, this thread is off the hook!

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

max, mickey is not mad at us. his bellybutton is infected and he's just cranky.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I'm serious, though, d00d just kind of went off because no one seemed to believe his claim that he was privy to the inner workings of anti-copyright law enforcement.

― max (maxreax), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

See: every other Mickey thread.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

What a chief.

― max (maxreax), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

fuck u max, i'm part Ojibwa

― Wrinklecause for Applause! (Wrinklepaws), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know anything that's secret. it's all very public. here is the federal government's manual on prosecuting copyright infringement. it even lists the riaa and reasons to contact them.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2904/ilxhg4.jpg

― say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I understand that Drama is charged with state RICO violations. How is it that alleged criminal copyright infringement (which is a federal crime) can provide the basis for a state-law RICO charge? There's something fishy here.

― J (Jay), Saturday, 20 January 2007 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

Well, racketeering, J -- making a business of copyright infringement can just happen to be the particular racket. But like I said, I would so not be surprised if the copyright issue were being used as an entryway to fishing through the whole business as a whole.

― nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 21 January 2007 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

That's definitely what Drama's sister thinks btw if you read the link above.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 21 January 2007 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

hmmm kelefa just finished talkin abt this on WNYC

no real insights abov & beyond anything in thread, except a caller from bk who sed his son ws a mixtape dj nominated for 'rookie of the year' any1 wnt to hazard a guess who? hmm again

― nervous (cochere), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

That's definitely what Drama's sister thinks btw if you read the link above.

Which one? I couldn't find this somehow.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry it was on the other mixtape thread:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=15116190&blogID=218978997&MyToken=f04fd110-fd28-4528-af40-0cd9e124f2c2

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

"AmeriKKKa" aside, that was my first thought too (as I said upthread).

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

^^ Drama standing around trying to project some kind of emotion (happy? lovestruck? wistful?) while Akon sings a cheesy-ass Akon song is A++ hilarity imo

ethan (RIP) and i were just talking about this thread the other day, some classic material in here

― s1ocrates (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 16:48 (seventeen years ago)

lol, i was at that shoot

― lex pretend, Friday, 13 March 2009 16:52 (seventeen years ago)

http://a215.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/l_33217b6b2a74ea51c3be7c6eadbdb02e.jpg

needs to be a gif imo

― czech blastcore and superHOOS culture (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 13 March 2009 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

free domma & andwhat

― s1ocrates (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

it's like why dombag and not saddam?

― note: any and all comma splices in this post are intentional (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 13 March 2009 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

its like the mod is a crul ringmaster

― the ghost of christmas passantino (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

so true. feds/riaa never go after the white man.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:07 PM

mickey's gangsta grillz

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:09 PM

white man's bellyburden piercing.

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:10 PM

― eman, Friday, 13 March 2009 19:24 (seventeen years ago)

― note: any and all comma splices in this post are intentional (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 13 March 2009 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

btw thanks for this revive, I've been looking for the appropriate words with which to describe "Akon singing a cheesy-ass Akon song," and those do just fine

― note: any and all comma splices in this post are intentional (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 13 March 2009 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.thinkbarefoot.com/images/home/mickeys.jpg

― eman, Friday, 13 March 2009 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

i would've called it a cheesy-ass love song but it's not cheesy because it's a love song, it's cheesy because it's an Akon song

― burt_stanton is a habit, get like me (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

i was gonna do stanton like my daddy a while ago

― s1ockit to me (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 13 March 2009 20:34 (seventeen years ago)

― burt_stanton like my daddy (some dude), Monday, December 22, 2008 10:22 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm not proud of myself, i'm just saying

― burt_stanton is a habit, get like me (some dude), Saturday, 14 March 2009 03:23 (sixteen years ago)

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