Neon Neon: Collab. between Boom Bip and Gruff Rhys ft. Fat Lip, Spank Rock, The Magic Numbers and more

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Not content with a second solo album out on Monday and a new Super Furries album out about March, busy bee Gruff Rhys has teamed up once again with the king of laptop-hop, Boom Bip, to form new super group Neon Neon in what could possibly be the most pant-wettingly exciting news of 2007!

Having previously collaborated on the track ‘Do’s and Don’ts’ on Mr Bip’s album ‘Blue Eyed in the Red Room’ to remarkable effect, Gruff and Bryan (as his mother likes to call him) longed to spend more time in each other’s company making beautiful music. That opportunity didn’t arise until last summer, when the two locked themselves away in London and recorded the sessions which have become the bulk of this fabulous concept album.

Concept album you say? But what about? Well, it’s an album loosely based around the life of John Delorean, inventor of the ‘Back to the Future’-staring Delorean super-car of course!

The album features a myriad of special guests, including Spank Rock, Fat Lip, Yo Majesty and Magic Numbers. With rumours abound that Beck is to appear, as well as a couple of other ultra-special additions (the like of which that will see me castrated if I speak their names too soon), this album, due for release on Lex records in the summer, should be one of the events of the year. I’ve heard the Yo Majesty track, and if it’s not a massive hit, I’ll put coins down my helmet for the amusement of Donny Tourette. Believe!

http://www.krugermagazinetest.co.uk/content/view/164/10077/

sjd111 (sjjd111), Saturday, 20 January 2007 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Good to see The View are gonna have some competition for worst album of the year.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 20 January 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Shit's even got Har Mar.

sjd111 (sjjd111), Saturday, 20 January 2007 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking hell.

jimn (jimnaseum), Saturday, 20 January 2007 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

this album, due for release on Lex records in the summer, should be one of the events of the year. I’ve heard the Yo Majesty track, and if it’s not a massive hit, I’ll put coins down my helmet for the amusement of Donny Tourette. Believe!

Yeah, if there's one label I'd associate with being able to produce top 10 hit singles, it's Lex.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 20 January 2007 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

But Har Mar.

sjd111 (sjjd111), Saturday, 20 January 2007 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

The worst track on that Boom Bip album is the Gruff Ryhs Jones one. So of course, make a fucking album.

jimn (jimnaseum), Saturday, 20 January 2007 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

otm

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 21 January 2007 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

The rest of that album was pretty great though.

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 21 January 2007 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really like Gruff's song or any Boom Bip tracks, but I seem to recall Gruff's and Nina Nastasia's songs frequently being mentioned as the album's highlights.

sjd111 (sjjd111), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

The Nina Nastasia Song was great, but then I have a huge soft spot for her. Not that I don't like the Super Furry Animals, its just that it sounded so naff, really unconvincing argument for a reunioun that track. If you ask me... Which they DIDN'T!

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 21 January 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm looking forward to this.

lou diamond phillips (lou diamond phillips), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
There's a track available on the MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/neonx2

Not really my thing, to be honest.

enjoy bell woods, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

This sucks.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

There's a new track out, and it's fucking awesome: http://www.myspace.com/neonx2

teflon monkey, Thursday, 4 October 2007 06:22 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

A very fine record, if you ask me...

Snowballing, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 09:54 (eighteen years ago)

I like that "Raquel" song a lot.

Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 10:03 (eighteen years ago)

Thought there was some good stuff on here, if not mindblowing.

Haha I almost certainly know whoever wrote the blah in the first post

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

"I Told Her on Alderaan" is incredible. I think it could be one of the best songs Gruff has performed on since his Radiator days.

I don't know if anyone's heard the full record yet. Lex hasn't actually sent the finished product out. What they did send was an eight-track sampler.

teflon monkey, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Have at it, by the way: http://hypem.com/track/465621

teflon monkey, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

"I Lust U" is on the myspace now: http://www.myspace.com/neonx2

Features Cate Le Bon on vocals...

teflon monkey, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

Gruff Rhys + electro / hip-hop = surprisingly awesome.

Simon H., Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

They're shooting a video for this in LA on Saturday. I think Lex is going to be stepping up the campaign for this one. Hopefully the final product is more cohesive than the sampler. The rap tracks don't really flow into Gruff's tracks particularly well, although I really, really love Yo Majesty on "Sweat Shop." I can't build much enthusiasm for Fatlip's track, though.

teflon monkey, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

i LUST U

tati1, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 19:22 (seventeen years ago)

You know, this really is pretty good. Anyone want to discuss?

teflon monkey, Thursday, 31 January 2008 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

oh oops.

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 31 January 2008 15:35 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

The full album is now making the rounds, with four more tracks than the promo. "Dream Cars" is amazing.

Weirdly they put all the rap tracks on the promo, there's only that total of three on the album. "Luxury Pool" and "Trick for Treat" are still great, though.

Simon H., Saturday, 1 March 2008 15:07 (seventeen years ago)

Also I am pleased to report no Har Mar and no Magic Numbers.

Simon H., Saturday, 1 March 2008 15:09 (seventeen years ago)

SWEAT SHOP SWEAT SHOP

teflon monkey, Saturday, 1 March 2008 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhOipiXZ9MI

And this'll be talked about more in the coming weeks. Getting rave reviews, as it should 'cos it's awesome.

teflon monkey, Saturday, 1 March 2008 16:39 (seventeen years ago)

Simon H, you're wrong about Har Mar AND Magic Numbers. Har Mar is on "Trick for Treat" and The Magic Numbers do the choral backing on "Stainless Style" and "Luxury Pool."

tati1, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

despite what I said upthread, this album is surprisingly kickass

I know, right?, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

sweat shop is cool, as is neon theme, I need to digest the whole thing more though.

Ooh, dreamgirls

I know, right?, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 22:39 (seventeen years ago)

Some of this disc sounds a little like updated Phil Collins, to me. Shockingly, I like it a lot.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 18 March 2008 22:48 (seventeen years ago)

^^very good description.

I know, right?, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

don't like 'i lust u' or the 'alderaan' one - anything on this more like fc kahuna's 'fear of guitars'?

blueski, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)

i lust you is almost indistinguishable from old ladytron to me, but the album is scary catchy

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 03:51 (seventeen years ago)

(k this is really what i wanted sfa to do after ratw)

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 03:55 (seventeen years ago)

Their live performance intrigues me. I've seen a few clips on YouTube, one of them being a version of "Sweat Shop" with Har Mar on vocals called "Sweatpants".

I hope these guys do another album together. I'd call this LP fairly flawed, but very promising. With more work and a more cohesive vision, they'd have an album for the ages.

teflon monkey, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:44 (seventeen years ago)

And yeah, it'd be nice if the next SFA album were Cian-centric and more in the vein of Guerrilla and RAtW. Truthfully, though, Love Kraft was unfairly maligned. I think it needs to be reassessed...

teflon monkey, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

"I Lust U" sounds like leftover electroclash.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)

the synth hook is really lame imo

blueski, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

would like gruff rhys to sing on something more like that max tundra remix of tunng's 'bullets'

blueski, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

"Belfast," "Dream Cars" and "Raquel" are the standouts anyway. "I Lust U" is a good single, though. "Alderaan" isn't too shabby, either.

"Michael Douglas" has the same sort of chorus problem as SFA's worst-ever song, "Lazer Beam," but the verses and instrumentation make up for it. I also like the nod to "God Show Me Magic!" on the "Gimme a soul implant" line.

teflon monkey, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:48 (seventeen years ago)

The single is megadud. As usual Gruff Rhys drags everything down with his BORING voice.

SFA would be better if he maybe confined himself to writing lyrics and be replaced on vocals by RHYDIAN.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think Gruff's voice would be BORING, just a bit cold.
And this is a very good album, my favourites are "Steel Your Girl" (it is similar to which song???), "Michael Douglas", "Raquel" and of course "I Lust U". Yes, the latter is like leftover electroclash, but who cares, as it's great?

zeus, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 14:47 (seventeen years ago)

Unfortunately it's sort of Brown Sauce trying to do Trans-X.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Mostly said above, but I really love this album with glaring exceptions

"Trick Or Treat", the Har Mar track, is really really fucking bad, and I blame Har Mar or whoever decided to include him. This could have been a great song sung/rapped by anybody else.

"Sweat Shop" and "Luxury Pool" aren't that great either, respect to Yo Majesty and Fatlip.

However, the more 80s synth+guitar pop tracks that feat. Gruff on vocals are ace ace ace. "Dream Cars", "I Told Her At Alderaan", "Raquel", "I Lust U", "Steel Your Girl", "Michael Douglas"... Pretty much all of those are excellent. So, moral is: Boom Bip + Gruff Rhys = great 80s sounding pop, not-great hip hop.

"Steel Your Girl" sounds kinda like "Outdoor Miner", at least the chord progressions and harmonies, not so much matching the original in notes, but in feel.

Mackro Mackro, Sunday, 11 May 2008 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am00B2nwdtE

Richard X remix of "I Told Her on Alderaan"

teflon monkey, Monday, 23 June 2008 21:58 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

Good to see The View are gonna have some competition for worst album of the year.

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My Grandad drinks wine he doesn't drink beer (Maxemillian), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:43 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

No, we had no idea either. A quick delve into the history of the new protagonist suggests that he was born into one of the wealthiest families in Italy in the 1920s, and spent time as a publisher - most notably perhaps for being the first to publish Doctor Zhivago. We'd imagine that the part of his story that's gripped the Neon Neon boys might well be when he took up communism, and spent years as an activist, meeting Fidel Castro along the way and joining the Italian Communist Party. After travelling the world with various guerrilla groups, his story ended when he accidentally blew himself up with his own explosives. It'll make for an interesting final track, then.

Always educational, those NN chaps.

Other things that we think we know about the record; it seems that they've been working with Sabrina Salerno, who your Dad will almost certainly remember for her 1987 Euro-smash, 'Boys (Summertime Love)'. It also looks like they've recorded with an Italian actress, Asia Argento. Taking to her Twitter back in September last year, she wrote; "Today I recorded some vocals with Gruff Rhys from Super Furry Animals for a new project on Giangiacomo Feltrinelli."

http://roundhouse.org.uk/live

Live stream of their set where they're going to play instrumentals off the new album next month. Will be interesting to see who the guests are.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

Neon Neon (Gruff Rhys and Boom Bip) will release new album Praxis Makes Perfect on 29th April via Lex Records.

The standard Cd version and Vinyl are available to pre-order via the lex site here.

Praxis Makes Perfect is inspired by the life and times of Giangiacomo Feltrinelli. Born in to one of Italy’s wealthiest families, Feltrinelli was a left-wing political activist and published some of the greatest literary works of the 20th century, including The Leopard and Doctor Zhivago. He died in highly suspicious circumstances in 1972.

Praxis Makes Perfect features Sabrina Salerno, Asia Argento, Cate Le Bon, Josh Klinghoffer and follows Neon Neon’s 2008, Mercury-shortlisted debut Stainless Style, a concept album based on the life of colourful motoring mogul John DeLorean.

Gruff Rhys and Boom Bip have also teamed up with playwright Tim Price, director Wils Wilson and National Theatre Wales to create unique Neon Neon live performances. An initial run of shows will take place at an undisclosed Cardiff location from 2nd to 5th May. Tickets are priced £15 and on sale here.

neonneonofficial.tumblr.com

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 24 January 2013 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://vimeo.com/58047877

Really think this could be something special...

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://roundhouse.org.uk/live

Streaming live tonight @ 9:30 GMT.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 14:46 (twelve years ago)

Starts in 10 minutes.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:35 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsO0wHzy5c

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:13 (twelve years ago)

One more track @ One hour, 57 minutes: http://bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qzjdy

Seems kind of unambitious, to be honest. I was expecting a little more. Maybe that live interactive theater experience will be a little more interesting.

Well, I'm talking to myself at this point anyway.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 7 March 2013 16:43 (twelve years ago)

is their last album out of print already?

billstevejim, Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)

Don't think the last album is out of print. You can get it quite cheap on Amazon.

Hey Alfred I'm right there with you. I love the first Neon Neon album and have been looking forward to this one for a while.

I really like the single, I though they might try something a bit different but I'm ok with more of the same.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:23 (twelve years ago)

Oops sorry I meant to respond to afriendlypioneer there.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:25 (twelve years ago)

The difference is that there probably won't be any hip-hop tracks. That seemed to be the weak element on the first one, so I guess that's a good thing. It seems like more people appreciate the hip hop tracks these days, though. I find it interesting they've got that guitarist from RHCP in the band. I didn't realize he was on the first one as well.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)

The RHCP guitarist being on the albums is news to me, it's a quite as a shock as they're by far my least favourite band ever, I'll probably just forget I know that to be honest.

You're right the weakest songs were the hip hop tracks, they just didn't work that well. Love everything else on the album, especially Steel Your Girl and Dream Cars.

Just listened to the other new track, really liked it. Really excited for this album. Probably stating the obvious here but Gruff really is one talented guy. Have been listening to a lot of SFA recently, such an incredible band.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:40 (twelve years ago)

Apparently RHCP dude is pretty much responsible for all the music on "Steel Your Girl." It checks out according to discogs. :\

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:48 (twelve years ago)

Oh wow, that's just upsetting.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:53 (twelve years ago)

If Gruff Rhys approves, who am I to complain?

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 8 March 2013 01:12 (twelve years ago)

How's Boom Bip on his own? Never bothered...might've listened to the second or third album, the one with a bunch of collaborations. I'm not really big on that kind of thing. How're his instrumentals?

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:00 (twelve years ago)

I like the way the album cover looks like it could be an OMD album.

I want to get one of these signed copies, not sure if I should go for the vinyl or if the bonus tracks on the double disc edition will be worth getting.

http://www.recordstore.co.uk/recordstore/Signed/Praxis-Makes-Perfect-Signed/2HTA02BP000?back=recordstore%2FSigned%2F

There doesn't seem to be a lot of hype for this yet.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 18 March 2013 23:06 (twelve years ago)

Doesn't seem like there's much interest in anything SFA-related around these parts anymore.

The two songs I've heard are pretty decent. Interesting there's four extra tracks on the deluxe edition.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 18 March 2013 23:51 (twelve years ago)

Yeah it's a shame there isn't much talk about them, I'm happy for us to keep the interest going.

There's just no way of knowing if those bonus tracks are worth getting, maybe they put all the rap songs on a separate disc this time? I think I might just have to pre order the vinyl instead. Not sure how many signed copies they'll have available so want to do it soon.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 00:27 (twelve years ago)

iTunes has got the tracks up, but no previews. I was hoping I could figure that out. I don't think they recorded any rap tracks this time around, though.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 00:59 (twelve years ago)

Really interested in knowing what these interactive live theatre concerts are going to be like.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 00:59 (twelve years ago)

Hopefully there will be some way to find out what those bonus tracks are like before ordering. If they're going to be four extra songs great but if they're going to be little noodles or demos that weren't fit for the album then I won't bother.

Yeah those concerts sound really interesting, that promo clip makes it looks really cool.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 01:21 (twelve years ago)

I mostly like the older Neon Neon album except for the non-Gruff songs. I guess another one is fine but I'd rather have more Gruff solo, really. Hotel Shampoo is really pretty awesome.

I never heard that collab he did with the South American weirdo guy or viewed that documentary... anyone have anything good to say about either of those?

liam fennell, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)

Separado is fantastic. Worth watching as soon as you can. The tour he did with Tony Da Gatorra was great. I saw them play together in London in 2007. One of the best shows I've been to in my life. His stuff sounded amazing with a backing band and Tony Da Gatorra on this thing.

The album, though. It's an acquired taste. I don't listen to it very much. I think there's an audience for it, but not a big one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jyuPR2TVA

I highly, highly recommend Cian Ciaran's album from the last year if you like the last few SFA albums. It's definitely in that vein. Sounds a lot more like an SFA album than you'd expect.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)

And Gruff is doing another documentary. It takes place in Midwest America.

This song from Separado is really great: http://www.4shared.com/mp3/dVHXu8v8/file.html

It's probably my favorite thing about the movie.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 15:52 (twelve years ago)

The "last" SFA song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IujipCTqbU

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)

I like all 3 of those things although Balloon Ride is pretty whatever for a "last" song! Thanks. The Cian stuff does sound pretty great, too, even though I'm not much into piano ballads!

liam fennell, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 19:29 (twelve years ago)

If you really want to get down into the dirt, check out Bunf's new one: http://soundcloud.com/the-pale-blue-dots/additional

He's kind of taken a beating since he started singing SFA songs even though "White Socks/Flip Flops" is one of my favorite ever songs

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)

It's on Spotify.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)

Guto from SFA does a band called Gulp w/ his gf at the moment, they have some good moments. bit of a Broadcast vibe to some of it (cf 'Game Love', a 7" from last year, iirc)

an average girl realizing that leggings aren't helping the cause (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

http://www.rdio.com/artist/Neon_Neon/album/Praxis_Makes_Perfect/

Short album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:00 (twelve years ago)

Going to have to say I'm pretty disappointed.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 21:36 (twelve years ago)

They couldn't have spent much time on this. There are a handful of great songs, but there's also some half-baked stuff that eats into a very short album. I've got "Shopping (I Like To)" burned into my head. I don't know if I'm happy about that.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)

Is the album streaming on that site you posted. It's says unavailable where I am.

Is it really that bad? Disappointed to hear that it's so throwaway.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 24 March 2013 03:08 (twelve years ago)

It isn't "that bad," but it's not good. It's just kind of there to be listened to a couple times and forgotten. A waste of two talented men.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 24 March 2013 23:51 (twelve years ago)

Biggest disappointment of the year so far. The first half is just totally forgettable. There's some good moments on the second half, especially Shopping (I Like To) which is just way too catchy but overall it's just as you said, it sounds so rushed and half baked.

This maybe the weakest album Gruff has been involved with.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 09:25 (twelve years ago)

I don't know if I'd go that far... It's not a patch on Stainless Style, but I can see me playing this more than Candylion and Hotel Shampoo.

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 12:59 (twelve years ago)

I'd probably go that far. I think Hotel Shampoo is a great album that almost kind of proves Gruff no longer needs to be part of SFA. This new one just feels like a silly EP that really need to be released. There are four more tracks coming, so I'll reserve final judgment til then.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 13:04 (twelve years ago)

that didn't really* need.

Why wait five years to release a half-hour album about an Italian communist book publisher when the style of the music doesn't really make much sense and the narrative is cut off way too early? They should've just ditched the synthpop biographer angle IMO.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 13:07 (twelve years ago)

It’s another element that is at once at odds with its predecessor: “When we started talking about the record, it was going to be like a Communist industrial album, but it didn’t quite turn out like that!” Title track aside, I would contend. “Instead, it went Europop!”, Rhys’ voice immediately onomatopoeic. “Though there’s an EP called Years of Lead, which is coming out with the LP and that’s a 4-track release which is more in tune with how we imagined the record was going to be. It’s amazing how music can take you places you really wouldn’t expect! And initially, that happens on a synthesiser but then you find yourself physically taken somewhere by the music itself. For example, I never expected to be recording with Sabrina Salerno [who features on the gloopy Europop bim bloopery of album standout Shopping (I Like To)] in Venice, you know? I never imagined I’d sing a duet with her – it’s something I never imagined would happen to me. It’s beyond any kind of fathomable reality, really!”

"Communist industrial album" sounds way more interesting to me.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 13:48 (twelve years ago)

Anyone out there actually enjoy this? Kind of landed with a thud.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:36 (twelve years ago)

Sunnydaysforme on Lastfm says "I actually really like praxis makes perfect"

I haven't bothered playing it a second time yet, I'm sure I'll get round to it at some point.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 4 April 2013 21:21 (twelve years ago)

I liked Stainless Style a hell of a lot so decided to give this one a chance. I think it's a heap of shit, personally. Bland production values and a serious lack of hooks/decent songs. Nothing on the album struck me as anything I felt the need to listen to again. Thankfully, the album is mercifully brief so I don't think it wasted too much of my valuable time. I wouldn't call it the weakest album Gruff has ever been involved in (that dubious accolade goes to The Terror Of Cosmic Loneliness, the album he did with Tony Da Gatorra), but I'd definitely go as far as calling it his second-weakest. After forcing myself to sit through the borefest that Cian shat out last year and now this, I fear that it's not just Super Furry Animals "the band" that have ran their course. They're all giving me very little reason to give a fuck about them in recent years. They may (individually or collectively) return to form, but I'm not holding my breath.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 14 April 2013 19:45 (twelve years ago)

I agree that is a very poor album but I would never give up on him/them. Dark Days was a fantastic album and I really enjoyed Hotel Shampoo. This is hopefully just a blip from one of the most consistently great songwriters around.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 14 April 2013 22:06 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

Anyone give the EP a listen yet? The whole thing's officially out now.

I definitely didn't think Cian's album was a borefest...

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:29 (twelve years ago)

And I'm kind of surprised this is getting relatively good reviews. It's a total 5/10 for me.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:35 (twelve years ago)

The EP is horrendous.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 15:44 (twelve years ago)

Ha! You're really scaring me away from this one!

liam fennell, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:23 (twelve years ago)

Best song on the album...

http://vimeo.com/65062965

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)

Thanks, I wanted to hear another song from it. 5/10 sounds pretty generous, really, ha. I'm sure I'll get it eventually.

liam fennell, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 11:58 (twelve years ago)

It's actually a pretty decent song and indicative of the quality of the rest of the album. I just find the package extremely underwhelming. The bit at the beginning is off the EP.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:45 (twelve years ago)

http://vine.co/v/bQx73vW1j9L

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 4 May 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)

Daf caused a bit of excitement earlier when he tweeted from the SFA account that they'd be starting to record the new album this week. He meant to tweet from his side project The Earth's account.

He's since tweeted this:

clarification from @furrydaf . not a fucking chance of a new @superfurry album any time soon! was talking bout @TheEarthBand . sorry!

groovypanda, Saturday, 4 May 2013 16:17 (twelve years ago)

Damn, shame The Earth is probably the least interesting of all the SFA side projects. Those songs they're putting out leave me cold.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 4 May 2013 17:23 (twelve years ago)

For reference: http://theearthearthearth.com

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 4 May 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)

Bunf's doing the best stuff, IMO: https://soundcloud.com/the-pale-blue-dots

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 4 May 2013 17:44 (twelve years ago)

I really could do with a new SFA album soon, I still play Dark Days a decent amount. It has seemed strange not having a new album of theirs for so long, I got used to having them put out an album every two years in the summertime.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 4 May 2013 23:01 (twelve years ago)

I can wait, tbh.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 4 May 2013 23:07 (twelve years ago)

Do we know if there's anything specific stopping there being a new SFA album?

The new Neon Neon record is very slight but I enjoy it more than I expected after reading commnts upthread.

michaellambert, Saturday, 4 May 2013 23:15 (twelve years ago)

I've overdosed on The Pale Blue dots today. Bunf's songs are always so infectious.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 5 May 2013 00:44 (twelve years ago)

The live show sounds pretty wicked based on the reviews I've read so far. I guess that was their main concern this time. It's a shame they couldn't wait to release the performance with the album.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 6 May 2013 14:42 (twelve years ago)

The Pale Blue Dots stuff on their soundcloud page is pretty good! Sounds sonically like Hey Venus in the best possible way. The 2 songs I just listened to have a very cool Phil Spector/Pet Sounds vibe.

liam fennell, Monday, 6 May 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)

I'm particularly fond of "Lady Bookworm" and "Aquarium." "Additional" is pretty epic, too. Glad he found his footing.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:18 (twelve years ago)

Putting the Pale Blue Dots stuff in the same bracket as Hey Venus! is a massive insult to Hey Venus!, as far as I'm concerned. I was having a conversation with a friend the other day and he said something along the lines of "The Pale Blue Dots sound like post-stroke Edwyn Collins singing Status Quo songs, but not anywhere near as good as that would suggest"... and I agree! Cian's album and the Neon Neon album left me cold enough, but I think the Pale Blue Dots manage to be even worse. I can't see The Earth (even though Dionne is a very good singer) or Gulp rocking anyone's world, either. Apart from the world of STAUNCHLY HARDCORE SFA FANS who have always been incredibly special and like pretty much everything that these guys shit out regardless of how good it actually is.

I personally think it's a great thing that Super Furry Animals are on hiatus now... even if an hour of the best of what they've been doing individually had been cherry-picked to go on an SFA album, listening to it would be like spending an hour in Hades while having a vasectomy performed on you with zero anaesthetic.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)

If you say so.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:47 (twelve years ago)

I guess the opposite of liking everything they shit is saying laughably hyperbolic stuff like some songs you don't like are akin to getting a vasectomy in Hell.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:49 (twelve years ago)

That 'vasectomy in Hades' comment was meant to be an over the top/humorous (well, to me at least) way of getting my point across... but if this is going to boil down to a laughable hyperbole vs. laughing hyperbole pissing contest, then the way that some SFA fans are praising these recent ho-hum to sub-par solo projects as if their collective/individual "winning streak" never ended (when it did, and many years ago at that) just isn't funny at all. And neither is the fact that the various members feel the need to waste people's time with lazy, utter half-arsed garbage when at the very least between 1997-2003 (their peak) the music that they were making was unbeatable and between 2004-2008 (even though the rot was starting to set in) a lot of it was still at the least very good to decent. By comparison their output for the last five years (collective/individual) has been mostly hopeless.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, ha, I second that if you say so! I personally meant "sonically" in regard to the production values and overall aesthetic of the PBD stuff. I was hardly judging it based on an in depth analysis of the song writing or performances. The very clean lines, the big drums and the precise arrangements are what I'm responding to in my cursory listening... it is very much in line with Hey Venus! on that level.

I personally feel everything SFA pre-2003 is immature! The group only gets really interesting to me with Phantom Power and especially Lovekraft. To each his own, one man's trash another man's treasure, etc. I'm personally very picky about this stuff and Afriendlypioneer is also clearly not at all afraid to look at this music critically. Of course, being fans, our view is biased towards hoping for the best - but so fucking what? We're certainly not pretending to enjoy things! Frankly that is kind of insulting.

I believe he and I have discussed this before in the SFA general thread, we appreciate the different facets the members bring to the overall sound of SFA and looking at their solo works is very illuminating in that regard. Failures, needless to say, can also be very rewarding and informative believe it or not. It is hardly a waste of OUR time. After digesting Pale Blue Dots we can go back to Lovekraft and hear it a little different... perhaps even grow to appreciate it more.

liam fennell, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:43 (twelve years ago)

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that listening to Love Kraft directly after the Pale Blue Dots will make Love Kraft seem like the greatest album ever made - but then again, I suppose the rest of the entire world of music would gleam in comparison too.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:53 (twelve years ago)

Different strokes...

Hey Venus! is my least favorite SFA album, but I really dig The Pale Blue Dots' demos. They have a sound that I enjoy. The other vocalist brings a lot to the show as well.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:09 (twelve years ago)

http://store.gulpgulp.co.uk/track/diamonds-in-the-sky

That's a damn good song, btw...

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:18 (twelve years ago)

Love Kraft: best SFA album

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:20 (twelve years ago)

The other vocalist brings a lot to the show as well.

What, being more in tune than Bunf is!? Putting the quality of the actual songs to one side for a moment, these vocals are pretty painful and thoroughly unenjoyable to listen to, and 'White Socks/Flip Flops' was one of my highlights of Dark Days/Light Years.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)

I just don't think we hear things the same way. I don't really understand how you could react so negatively to Cian's album, but you do. I found that one thoroughly enjoyable, though not perfect. Most people I spoke to did as well, including friends of mine who've made fun of my love for SFA.

I guess you and I kind of agree on the new Neon Neon album inasmuch that we both find it disappointing, although I mostly just find it inoffensive whereas you think it's an assault on your senses.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:33 (twelve years ago)

Well, I certainly think it's crap, and not at all very good from an artist that is capable of so much more and has produced vastly superior work in the past. I guess this applies to all of the SFA members recent projects too, though, not just the new Neon Neon.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:40 (twelve years ago)

Love Kraft: best SFA album

Controversial -- but possible.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 00:44 (twelve years ago)

Dark Days/Light Years and Phantom Power both handily defeat HV and LK.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 14:26 (twelve years ago)

Gruff Rhys has made a career of being different, maintaining a level of interest and surprise in every one of his albums whether with Super Furry Animals, his solo work or various guest appearances. His latest album with Neon Neon, where he combines with American hip hop producer Boom Bip, may be the most experimental project yet.

Their second album ‘Praxis Makes Perfect’ was released on 29th April and across its ten tracks tells the story of Italian publisher and left wing political activist Giangiacomo Feltrinelli. On listening to the record it has all the hallmarks of a classic Gruff piece but the complex storytelling is lost a little between the drifting pleasantness of the tunes and Gruff's often hard to decipher lyrics meaning some of the concepts important narrative is lost a little unless you’re listening through headphones or have the lyrics to hand. Even then, it takes a bit of Googling to fill in the blanks of the story.

All credit to Gruff, as well as the National Theatre Wales, for coming up with a unique and quite brilliant way of making sure the message behind his writing gets through. Inviting fans to purchase tickets for any of 5 performances over 4 days in Cardiff, the location; a warehouse near Cardiff central train station is kept secret until you purchase your ticket. You’re then requested to ‘wear something red and bring a copy of your favourite book to give to a comrade’. What results is a crowd of around 500 intrigued souls gathered around an industrial car park on a Saturday evening, all fascinated by what’s to come.

On entering the actual warehouse to a room which has nowhere for a band to play the level of confusion increases before a screen drops allowing everyone to filter into a larger area where Neon Neon plus supporting band are on a scaffold structure dressed to look like an office with Gruff and Boom Bip on typewriters. For the next hour or so they play through ‘Praxis Makes Perfect’ while a collection of actors perform both during and between tracks, providing a detail and expression of the content which suddenly allows the whole thing to make perfect sense.

Parts of stage are wheeled around the floor for various scenes while the talented cast perform a series of expertly written and performed set pieces which join everything together. There are scenes for how Feltrinelli got the manuscript for Dr Zhivago out of the Soviet Union, CIA interrogations, Gruff and fabulous vocalist Lisa Jen Brown piling up shopping trollies while on treadmills, people climbing out of enormous filing cabinets, leopard faced people with guns, body painting, Che Guevara and Feltrinelli playing basketball with Fidel Castro among many other highlights.

Tim Price deserves massive credit for understanding Gruff’s concept and coming up with a dialogue which tells the story and compliments the songs without taking over the entire performance. The whole show is a bit like being sucked into a music video crossed with a documentary while listening to the album all at the same time. It’s all very cleverly put together and expertly performed.

On completion of ‘Praxis Makes Perfect’ we’re treated to a handful of songs from first album ‘Stainless Style’ including the still brilliant sounding ‘I Lust You’. I wasn’t sure what to expect from ‘interactive theatre’ but this was one of the most brilliant experiences I’ve ever had watching live music. The balance between gig and theatrical show was spot on and everything was performed almost flawlessly. Yet again Gruff is pushing the envelope and yet again he’s got it spot on.

Source: http://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/178839/9#ixzz2SiEbYZuJ

Really wish they'd just waited to record these performances before they released the album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 14:44 (twelve years ago)

Dark Days/Light Years and Phantom Power both handily defeats HV and LK.

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The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:42 (twelve years ago)

All this talk about the best SFA albums makes me want to rank them and hopefully it will encourage people to do the same (I love lists!)

Radiator
Guerrilla
Mwng
Phantom Power
Dark Days
Fuzzy Logic
Love Kraft
Hey Venus
Rings Around The World

They are yet to make a really bad album.

I haven't heard all their side projects but I love Candylion and Stainless Style. Hotel Shampoo is good but I don't go back to that one as much.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 21:39 (twelve years ago)

This new one by The Earth is pretty good, but I like everything the band shits out so don't mind me... https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/04-elektrikity

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:06 (twelve years ago)

Here's half of the dreadful Cian Ciaran album that's as painful as getting a vasectomy in Hades as well: https://soundcloud.com/strangetown-records/sets/cian-ciaran-outside-in

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:10 (twelve years ago)

BTW: I listened to Rings Around the World recently and still don't understand why there's a large minority that thinks it's the worst SFA album.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:45 (twelve years ago)

It's the only album of theirs where the big production sounds like it's trying to cover up a lack of great songs. Juxtapozed, Run Christian Run, Sidewalk Serfer Girl and the first half of Receptacle For The Respectable are the only songs I really like on there these days.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:38 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wsydT0oSRc

Wish I could've gone.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 11 May 2013 02:08 (twelve years ago)

That looks great. Completely uninterested in hearing the album.

charli.xlsx (sic), Saturday, 11 May 2013 04:14 (twelve years ago)

I like that "Mid-Century Modern Nightmare" sounds nothing like it does on the album. It's gloomy and sludgy.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 11 May 2013 14:33 (twelve years ago)

I think it's the best album of the last 50 years

PaulTMA, Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DOalFULgbY

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

I am kind of obsessed with that song right now.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyqI8v7XPrw

:)!

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 11 May 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)

theQuietus ‏@theQuietus 14 May
Dear me this Daft Punk LP is dull as dishwater. If you want arch sophisticated smart electronica, the new Neon Neon pisses all over this.

Damn.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 18 May 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)

Opinions are like assholes.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 May 2013 00:26 (twelve years ago)

The new Neon Neon record is very slight but I enjoy it more than I expected after reading commnts upthread.

I'm agreeing with this three songs in.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 May 2013 03:06 (twelve years ago)

Did you make it to the end? What did/do you think?

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 20 May 2013 14:06 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

After watching the Praxis Makes Perfect gig/show last night, I'm more convinced than ever that Gruff is a genius.

Jill, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 07:54 (twelve years ago)

I've heard nothing but good things about the show. It's a shame the LP lacks that extra something that seems to come with the performance. I wish they'd waited to release a DVD w/ the album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 14:21 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXNt2NoepyM

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 6 June 2013 13:26 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

Debut album by The Earth: http://open.spotify.com/album/1uQr8J15ofUlE8sjYPQUHB

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb1Mp1XdpnY

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 18:09 (twelve years ago)

http://phillipkelley.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/yawn.png

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Thursday, 11 July 2013 00:13 (twelve years ago)

I don't really like it--at all..just putting it out there.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 11 July 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)


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