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dont think this has been done yet. ive not heard it so it might well be crap but golden skans is brilliant IMO. got 1 star in the guardian today, but then im not that surprised as the lex doesnt seem to like indie very much to begin with.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/rock/reviews/story/0,,1998743,00.html

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

who let lex review this

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

someone with such a lack of knowledge of music in general should not be allowed to review anything

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

are the klaxons the new EMF?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

being discussed here.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

dont know but it seems odd. sort of like geir hongro being asked to review the latest dizzee album, lol.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

even if you hate the klaxons passing themselves off as nu rave (which they arent doing anymore which should please the hardcore rave massive), i dont know how you can hate golden skans, if you appraise it on its musical merits, not how its been marketed. its like lets dance or modern love meets something from the early 90s.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

plus the video

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Really, to argue that the Klaxons didn't do anything to encourage the whole 'new rave' association is a bit daft... of course the broadsheets are going to go down this route, 'new rave' is the whole reason this shit indie band are being featured in the Guardian at all...

― a nuclear-powered carrot (braveclub), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

blame the NME

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

having never heard them, i thought lex's review perfectly summed up how i imagine they sound. good work.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

I have heard them. It's a perfect description.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

Most unforgivably, there's the appalling production, with its curious emphasis on nasty, screaming treble. Stellar remixes from Simian Mobile Disco and Erol Alkan have shown that the Klaxons' music is redeemable - by removing all trace of the original.

uh, james ford from simian mobile disco produced this

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

i am aware of that.

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

x-post -- Then he should have pulled a Trevor Horn-with-Frankie move and just gotten in the Blockheads and Steve Howe.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

appalling production vs stellar remix by the same person

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

yes

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

one great thing about this review is that its kinda like revenge for all the ill informed reviews of dance/urban acts in the broadsheets.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

Whatever you think of Lex's review, Klaxons are crap, so he got that part right, at least.

They are Gaye Bykers On Acid, and in 5 years time, everyone in the world will realize this.

― the new sincerity (Pye Poudre), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

ive not got a problem with the review, i just linked to it in this thread cos it was the most extreme ive read.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

i think thats because when something is getting the media push all the reviews at this stage are positive. the negative ones get published in maybe august or september

― Frozen Field and Fox (688), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

Nice work, Lex!

― Tom D. (Dada), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

this review reassured me that I'm not just out of touch and that this is an unworthy album. I'm trying to figure out if there are any other hatchet jobs I'd like to see done...

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

dom on lily allen to thread

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

dom on lily allen to fetish porn archive

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

'tis a funny review and, from the little I've heard of the klaxons, accurate in its conclusion that they're shit. although 'unpleasant-sounding overdriven bass' combined with 'nasty screaming treble' actually makes them sound pretty good.

― m the g (mister the guanoman), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

Do the sports writers at the Guardian do their restaurant reviews as well?

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

This is currently my favorite band.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

'tis a funny review and, from the little I've heard of the klaxons, accurate in its conclusion that they're shit.

I'm not trying to be a dick - I haven't even heard this album, but I think that "Golden Skans" song is pretty catchy and sounds nothing like what is described in Lex's piece at all - but, I mean this seriously - what parts of that review are "funny"? Do you mean in an "I don't like this band that magazines are hyping up, and I am pleased to see my feelings confirmed in print" kind of way, or was there something actually funny in this review?

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Not funny, and Lex is dead serious there.

― zeus (zeus), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

I mostly agree with this Uncut review.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

i've not heard the cover but that Grace song is terrible, c'mon.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

Listened to the cover of "not over yet" today. Fuck these guys.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

i've not heard the cover but that Grace song is terrible, c'mon.

Agreed.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

For the sake of remaining open minded w/r/t albums I suspect are shit, but might not be... I listened to this. It's TERRIBLE!

Klaxons in 1992 = Carter/Ned's/Jesus Jones/EMF (except more fashionable, not so good songs). New Rave? New Fraggle more like (except again, not so good!).

I pity anyone except the very naive falling for this shit. Seriously, I don't like feeling old either but I'm not THIS desperate to feel "with it".

Spencer btw also likes Hadouken who are, astonishingly, EVEN WORSE!

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

"But, given the current creative fertility of house and techno music, indie chancers trying to pass this ropey stuff off as a dance revival is insulting and pointless."

Great quote from the end of the review. You know, I hate to say things like, "It's true." But it's true. Most indie DJs here in the US, ready to jump on anything Kitsune or Nu Rave, just come off as a bunch of smarmy bastards trying to avoid the fact that they need Rogaine by pimping this terrible music to 19 year old girls.

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

I *HATED* "Carter/Ned's/Jesus Jones/EMF"!!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

That Grace cover is superbad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHG-Ye0uwhU

However, this song clearly rules:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYQJ9b-C3j0

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

"Magick" was great (best guitar tones since the first YYYs album), but "Golden Skans" made me "fall for this sh*t" hard!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAO1nadsrgQ

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

I know "lol, indie" is a lazy stance. But they're making it too easy for me.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, do they actually sound like Carter?

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

Judge for yourself:

http://www.myspace.com/klaxons

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, I *knew* ILM would hate them.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

these dudes play "dj sets" too. double billing with Tiefschwarz on NYE

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

these dudes play "dj sets" too. double billing with Tiefschwarz on NYE
http://smid.blueprint.org/images/mod16348.png

― jimn (jimnaseum), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

Bloody hell, this stuff is like that dystopian futureworld, where all pop-music is composed by computers rather than real people, that I wrote about for my GCSE English coursework creative-writing piece

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

according to philip's blog, these guys swotted up that KLF manual "How to Have a Number One the Easy Way".

"I literally read that book and put it into practice," said Reynolds when I talked to him. "I took direct instructions from it, if you like. Get yourself a studio, get a groove going, sing some absolute nonsense over the top, but a breakbeat behind, it and you're away! That's what I did! That's genuinely it. I read that, I noted down the golden rules of pop, and applied that to what we're doing and made sure that that always applies to everything we do."

So the story of this band is they are cynical indie dudes who took rave symbols as their gimmick because that's what a manual told them to do. it makes me kinda despise them.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

Haven't heard the album yet and all I've heard so far reminds me of the Inspiral's, which is ok I guess, but not quite the world changing lifeforce it's hyped to be. However the fact that they are cribbing from 'The Manual' makes me warm to them, I suspect they'll never make anything as good as 'Edelweiss' though.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Though if they were following the manual, why would they be using 16 year old rave music as the template for their style?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

I still can't understand who was that idiot who gave this record to Lex to write a review about it. I don't think as a reader I should care for his opinion, which is a default one star review for anyone, who's not Ciara or doesn't have to shave.
How outraged would be everyone here if Geir would write a review about Clipse or Christina Aguilera, but it's just the same.

― zeus (zeus), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

How outraged would be everyone here if Geir would write a review about Clipse or Christina Aguilera

Outraged? I'd be entertained!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Besides, Xtina has melodies.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Outraged? I'd be entertained!

Me too!

― zeus (zeus), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

For a band wanting to attract a young audience, such a review in the Guardian is a good thing, no? "When I were a lad grumble grumble, poor production values not as good as the old stuff etc" means EXCELLENT!

― everything (everything), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Though if they were following the manual, why would they be using 16 year old rave music as the template for their style?

16 year old rave is not the template of their style, bog standard indie rock is. Rave is the gimmick which gets them noticed. From the manual:

"What's your angle? What's going to happen on Top of the Pops? What are
you going to say on "Newsbeat"? What are you going to use for photos
for Smash Hits?" Klaxons (probably confused by all the dance music refs in The KLF book: "Why don't we use that 'rave' stuff? That was popular. We could revive it."

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

N-n-n-n-nosedive karma goin' on...

― the new sincerity (Pye Poudre), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

Everythang's groovy baby nnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooowwww

― everything (everything), Friday, 26 January 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

(a) this is nonsense
(b) it's a review of a band who have strong ties, in both the musical sense and in respect of the circles they move in, to a bunch of music that Lex likes and has written a lot about, so the idea that he's 'unqualified' to write about it is dumb
(c) the album does suck
(d) I'd have given it an extra star for the lyrics, which I thought were mostly quite sweet, but that's just me

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Friday, 26 January 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

it seems that everything the lex hates he hates in exactly the same way.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 26 January 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Bog standard writer writes bog standard review of bog standard album by bog standard indie band.

― everything (everything), Friday, 26 January 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

i know everyone loves a backlash but i think its a bit unfair in this case. again, all i know is the ep and the new single but theyre both shit hot IMO. golden skans sounds like ashes to ashes (not lets dance or modern love ooops) as being done - well partly - by roni size/reprazent (seriously). everyone is saying theyre riding the nu rave bandwagon and didnt ever really like rave, and while im sure theres a certain anoying ironic indie kid bent to their love of rave, i think part of them really likes it too, despite their current 'trying to outgrow the scene they seemingly invented' PR move. cos in their music, i hear quite a lot of ravey influence from the drumming to the bass and even the kinda blissed out melodies/vocals. golden skans even has an almost proto-jungle/hardcore rave-breakbeat sort of thing happening. maybe this IS just them pilfering from indie dance bands from that time (hopefully not EMF as i remember EMF sounding like a bunch of idiots, then again i was probably only 9 at the time), but its still a rave or dance music influence in their music, so its not entirely disengenuous. yes you can say theyre pathetic and backward looking for drawing on dance music from 15 years back, and not whats going on today, but isnt that what indie bands always do, look to the past? its a shame they havent drawn from stuff going on now like grime rhythms, but maybe next time (or in 15 years lol). they could do with sounding less ropey, as lex said, but maybe the album IS less ropey sounding than the earlier singles.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

i dunno how they can be criticised for being too trebly though, thats a million indie bands who are too trebly. there was even a post on ILM about it a year or two back! and klaxons arent the worst offenders of that by a long shot! at least they have a tight rhythm section who are versed in funkier, dancier rhythms (even if they are fucking old funkier dancier rhythms).

what i think i would like is a band like hot chip who draw from more current electronic styles but as dynamic and energetic and melodic as the klaxons.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

ha! none other than grimey man like simey simon reynolds gives the album 4 out of 5 in the Observer

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/10bestcds/story/0,,1992577,00.html

WHAT CAN IT ALL MEAN?

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

"WHAT CAN IT ALL MEAN?"

that old ravers love to see old rave venerated by new (and occasionally properly dodgy) indie rock bands.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

ha@grimey simey

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

It means: just because you can write well doesn't mean you have good taste in music?

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

"bog-standard rock instrumentation"

― everything (everything), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

Have we forgotten his love for the Arctic Monkeys already?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

its a shame they havent drawn from stuff going on now like grime rhythms

MORE GRINDIE

THESE ARE NOT ENOUGH GRINDIES

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)

Great fucking album, TV on the Radio meets Flaming Lips meets a bunch of other shit.

Theres only one song I dont like, the rest is fucking great.

In my opinion

― Erock Lazron (Erock Zombie), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

The thing about sonic primitivism is that it's endemic to a thirty year tradition in music that spans from DIY post-punk through underground '80s college radio music and on into indie rock.* DIY is certainly not immune to criticism for its sonic properties, but there's a difference between someone saying that a bass sound sucks in the context of the music's tradition and someone saying a bass sound sucks MERELY because it has anything at all to do with a primitivist aesthetic. The latter is an easy blanket denial of a whole tradition.

* And "lol indie" is just generally bullshit. Anyway who would say such a thing hasn't been paying attention to the last two decades of great primitivist music that has evolved on a continuous basis out of the post-punk tradition.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

My contribution to Klaxons-Hype and indeed all Nu Rave Hype generally is to have a mild and totally shallow crush on the lead singer. "Golden Skans" or whatever it was looks good on my TV but I couldn't hear it that well.

From what I heard though it didn't sound more dancey than Bloc Party's single, but then I don't think I'd really judge it on that basis alone - if I do want dance music, well, dance music does that pretty well!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:45 (eighteen years ago)

Actually Bloc Party's single is kinda interesting in that post-98 d&b rhythms are not at all what I was expecting these bands to pick up on.

I'm patiently waiting for one of them to have the bright idea of making songs that sound like the Chemical Bros' "Star Guitar". One would have thought this would be an obvious idea.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:50 (eighteen years ago)

Here's the "Golden Skans" video in Quicktime with decent resolution and fidelity.

http://www.partizan.com/partizan/media/clips/666.mov

I'm a little shocked by the strong negative reactions because I think the album is packed with tunes, ideas and original textures (and way more than just nu-rave signifiers). As an American, I'm sure there's some cultural thing that I'm missing, but the music itself strikes me as just really beautiful and mysterious.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:52 (eighteen years ago)

I'm thoroughly confused by all references to dance music and dance-music opportunism with this. To me they just sound like an indie band that's more open than most to playing it a bit pop. The EMF / Carter / Inspiral Carpets references seem appropriate, except that these guys have less to do with dance music, and -- so far as their sound goes -- don't seem to be pretending to. At all. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong singles here, but none of the four I've heard have anything to do with dance music at all (and the comments on their YouTube videos say stuff like "sounds like Les Savy Fav!").

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 27 January 2007 01:13 (eighteen years ago)

Actually to me they sound like if the Futureheads started listening to Prince in the van.

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 27 January 2007 01:15 (eighteen years ago)

Aspects of what I've heard also remind me a bit of Ultrasound, although there are huge difs as well obv. But day-glo production values and fantastical excess never go out of fashion for long.

I think that's maybe what is behind some of people's suspicions with stuff like this - the fact that the strictly musical signifiers are constantly returning, but under different names and in different contexts so as to heighten the hype. But the names and the contexts are important too.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 27 January 2007 01:19 (eighteen years ago)

(b) it's a review of a band who have strong ties, in both the musical sense and in respect of the circles they move in, to a bunch of music that Lex likes and has written a lot about

Who do you mean? David Byrne?

― zeus (zeus), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

Klaxons are a band that show great promise, but are probably at least two years away from actually being a good band that can put out a solid record. The singles leading up to the album have all been inspired tunes that show that the band have stumbled on some interesting textures and can actually write catchy vocal melodies with unique arrangements. But the band is simply too young and green in terms of musicianship and craft. Which isn't really a knock, most bands need time to develop. Klaxons blew up too fast and the press made them into this "Nu Rave" thing, which to be honest they only had a few songs that had any rave or electronic textures in them at all. They are band trying to find themselves... Labels are so desperate these days to find new and interesting bands that they spend major $$$ to sign and market bands that aren't ready for the limelight. Everyone is trying to find the next Arctic Monkeys for better or for worse.

So yes, the Klaxons album isn't very good as a whole. There are some really great songs, namely the singles and now they have been given really great production. I am not sure that James Ford produced the whole thing, but he shouldn't be blamed for the outcome. He's done a lot with very little to work with. Most of the "new" songs on the album sound forced and uninspired. Which makes total sense. It's too early for a Klaxons album. They aren't ready, they need time to develop their sound more and to write better melodies. They are clearly capable of writing great pop songs, but to force a young band to record an album before their ready is career suicide. Poor kids never new what hit em.

― lawrencerock (lawrencerock), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:02 (eighteen years ago)

HELLO I AM MUSIC CRITIC WHO IS "DAVID BYRNE"

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:03 (eighteen years ago)

The best thing on Myths of the Near Future is the most aberrant-sounding: 'Isle of Her', with its Greek mythology-inspired lyrics about seafarers rowing across the Mediterranean in search of some kind of paradise. It sounds like nothing you've ever heard

.... eeeeeeeeeeexcept some bad this heat

― tsk. (mwah), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:42 (eighteen years ago)

Aspects of what I've heard also remind me a bit of Ultrasound

omg UH

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

uh titchy if u want grime indie check out hadouken (tis awful tho) apologies for snideness and flaming @ spencer.. very running out the house contribution here... I do think this band suck prettyhardbut it gives people somethign to talk aboout I guess. yes i an drunk ish

― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 27 January 2007 03:29 (eighteen years ago)

worst review ever

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 27 January 2007 03:33 (eighteen years ago)

i doubt the klaxons are half as shrill and monotonous as the lex's half-baked poptimism

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 27 January 2007 03:37 (eighteen years ago)

So the story of this band is they are cynical indie dudes who took rave symbols as their gimmick because that's what a manual told them to do. it makes me kinda despise them.

haha knowing that kinda reignites my interest in them

― jimbo (electricsound), Saturday, 27 January 2007 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

vahid massively otm, lex is the michael medved of poptimists

― bobby bedelia (van dover), Saturday, 27 January 2007 04:00 (eighteen years ago)

it's just plain bad.

― ()()()---()()() (internet), Saturday, 27 January 2007 04:50 (eighteen years ago)

ILM hates The Klaxons because they're gonna be more successful than The Rapture.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 27 January 2007 07:48 (eighteen years ago)

wow, that big?

― Frozen Field and Fox (688), Saturday, 27 January 2007 08:19 (eighteen years ago)

Exactly.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 27 January 2007 08:26 (eighteen years ago)

Nice theory Nick but... are the people who hate The Klaxons people who loved The Rapture? Or am I reading you wrong?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 27 January 2007 10:08 (eighteen years ago)

i don't really get this thread, it sounds like a lame older unjustifiably arrogant prick-ish older brother to me. this album is awesome.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 27 January 2007 11:19 (eighteen years ago)

btw spencer, glad to see you back!

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 27 January 2007 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

I'm being facetious largely, Tim, but I do often get a sense of "why isn't my band (who I liked first) bigger than your band (who is a fake secondary watered-down copy)" on ILM with things like this. Indie jealousy?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 27 January 2007 11:21 (eighteen years ago)

fwiw, here's a sample setlist from a klaxons dj set:

Klaxons - As Above So Below
Arthur Russell - Hop On Down
Moebius-Plank-Neumeier - All Repro
Mr.Elastic - Justice
Johannes Heil - Artology (Destillat remix)
Zager & Evans - In The Year 2525
Soft Machine - Lullabye Letter
Cluster - Caramel
Josef K - Sorry For Laughing
Hank Williams - Moanin' The Blues
Stranglers - Tank

it's really fun! you can download it from http://www.fluokids.blogspot.com and while you're there why not scroll down to the entry named MDMA and download my latest, you know, dj set....

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 27 January 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

it's the acid girls one

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 27 January 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

wow! their dj set looks great. who'd have thunk it?

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 27 January 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

i quite like 'as above, so below' that starts off the mix. are they into crowley / magick?

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 27 January 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

Sort of- they have quite a set of cribbed influences/namedrops, from Ballard (see the album title, for one) Burrough/Gysin (the latter even gets an all-too-rare shoutout on "Atlantis to Interzone" if my ears don't deceive me), Pynchon obviously, and Crowley gets some attention on "Magick" (lots of "magick without tears" and "do what you will"). The video for "Magick" is kind of hilarious as well.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 27 January 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

How old are they? It's seems improbable that a group of guys who are clued up on both rave and krautrock, and bill drummond and pynchon, would also find time to start up a hot new rock band. I assumed the reason that so many rock bands seemed so myopic and, well, dumb, was that rehearsal time didn't leave space for much else.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 27 January 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

Never mind the Gysin bit, turns out it's "kites of chaos," not "Gysin" something in "Gravity's Rainbow." Wishful thinking on my part, I suppose, he's criminally overlooked...

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 27 January 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

"golden skans even has an almost proto-jungle/hardcore rave-breakbeat sort of thing happening"

Okay I'm crying foul on this titchy. This is a good song but no way does it have a proto-jungle/hardcore rave-breakbeat sort of thing happening. It's just flashy rock drumming. It reminds me of The Dismemberment Plan a bit actually.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 27 January 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

i was going to say, if they were into gysin, maybe they should have championed dream machines rather than glo sticks.

x post

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 27 January 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

Zager & Evans - In The Year 2525

Very pleased to see that one in there...

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 27 January 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

absolutely everything in this thread makes me think i'd really like them. but what i've heard is a bit meh, apart from the odd special "nowt like the original" remix.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 27 January 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

I'm incredibly pleased to see that Lex gave this a well deserved slagging, everything Ive heard off this album sounds like indie-ordinaire (angular records variety). The only thing is perhaps he ought to have given it 2 stars, as that implies a certain lack of studentish vitriol, and a greater degree of rational contempt...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 27 January 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

Kasabian must be pissed at how narrowly they missed the zeitgeist lol.

― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 27 January 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

The only thing is perhaps he ought to have given it 2 stars, as that implies a certain lack of studentish vitriol, and a greater degree of rational contempt...

So the people that "really like" this review and find it "funny" all seem to really be getting off on the same thing: Not the review itself, but how he showed them indie kids - you know, the ones who are too far up their own asses to appreciate all "the current creative fertility of house and techno music."

Again, I haven't heard the record - outside of the singles - but those 3 or 4 songs simply don't sound they way Lex describes the album, sonically.

The main problem with the review, though, and which is glaringly obvious, is that he opens by saying the band have adamantly distanced themselves from the rave stuff that some journo tagged them with; then he goes on to complain endlessly about how this isn't proper dance music and how dare they talk about rave and so on.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Sunday, 28 January 2007 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

I think Lex's description of the album isn't far wrong, but his beating it up for not being something it's not trying to be is unfair.

Whoever said upthread that they wished the band had had a little more time to think their ideas through is right, I think. Listening to it I kept wishing they'd slow down a bit, let some of their images breathe and take the time to put more interesting sounds in. It sounds to me like they're stuck with a template (Brit indie '07, keep it all tight and thrashy for your half-hour live set) that their imagery and inspirations are way too big for: they sound in a dreadful hurry. Definitely something interesting there though, and I found myself hoping this record is a success so they can get the time and space needed for bigger ones.

They sound nothing like EMF or (MORES THE PITY) Carter, but they do remind me a bit of the Inspirals, caught halfway between "Joe" and "Biggest Mountain" (which is sort of the song the Klaxons want to make, except I think they might do it better).

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 28 January 2007 10:18 (eighteen years ago)

There isn't such a good song here as "Biggest Mountain". Also, for me the main characteristic of Inspiral Carpets was the organ of Clint Boon for me, what's missing from this album. But I agree with this hurried thing, in a few years however they can be a really good band. I love "As Above, As Below", though.

― zeus (zeus), Sunday, 28 January 2007 10:50 (eighteen years ago)

are the klaxons any closer to rave than, I dunno, EXTREME ANIMALS? paper rad-literate noise crew to thread!
klaxons tracks aren't too um dancefloor-friendly unremixed; all their fans over here are the britpop-never-died trustfunded holidays-to-the-UK types. mystical britisher DFA1979?

― etc (esskay), Sunday, 28 January 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/emftheband !!

― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:19 (eighteen years ago)

Simon Reynolds (again) http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE7DA163DF933A05755C0A967958260

― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

So the people that "really like" this review and find it "funny" all seem to really be getting off on the same thing: Not the review itself, but how he showed them indie kids

no. to clarify...I found the review funny for four reasons.

1) schadenfreude. what I've heard of the klaxons has been pretty dire, but they have been mostly highly feted in the press. it amused me to see them getting a severe drubbing for a change. I'm not proud of it, but there you go.

2) I was amused by the fact that some of the aspects lex used to signify bad music (particularly 'unpleasant-sounding, overdriven bass') acutally had the opposite effect and made it sound quite appealing, inaccurately enough.

3) this phrase tickled me: "The songs descend the same chords repeatedly and ponderously, as if the band were falling down the same flight of stairs over and over again." simply put, nice image.

4) the grim, foreshadowed inevitablility of this particular reviewer, who is renowned for his unswerving dogmatism, being given an indie guitar band to review - therefore leading to misguided "beating it up for not being something it's not trying to be". spot on.

― m the g (mister the guanoman), Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:48 (eighteen years ago)

I never said that this review was funny, its not. Its also not entirely fair to review a band by its hype, (however with the Klaxons, their is little else TO REVIEW). I've listened to all the singles off this record, they are a little on the messy/trebly side production wise (exception-Golden Skans)-- what they all share though is an ineffably lame dance-rock revival sound which should have been out of date 5 years ago.

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno, perhaps the singles aren't SO bad... it's just kind of puzzling how, for all their research, for all the big talk, in their rush to DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT they've fallen straight into that curiously reminiscent of 1992 pitfall of student rock w/knobs on, assuming that LOUD/ANNOYING/RAMSHACKLE bests all other musical qualities?

It makes them sound hyperactive & nervy, which is probably a great accompaniment to getting pissed on snakebite and falling over.

BUT if they're really trying to merge the worlds of rock and strange electronic/dance sounds and push things out a bit... at least get one competent non-lumpen drummer! Never mind a drum machine. Why are they so completely blind to using rhythms? Why aren't the NME going crazy mad bonkers for the Liars or something? Too hard to manipulate them within a "scene"?

There's also something that irritates about their fetishisation of "golden years" rave & hardcore and old electronics... but nothing inbetween all the way to 2006?? Why is UK indie guitar music (apart from Radiohead?) so completely unable to operate w/r/t the relatively recent/present in music now?

Unless they're being remixed it's like they're actually SCARED of approaching contemporaneousness, it's so much easier, so much SAFER to "bring back" a "better (older) time for music" never fully or accurately remembered by the new audience of course so you can pass off any old tripe as the hot stuff...

Sure there's potential for new creation via bastardization... but US/European acts just seem so far ahead of us now when it comes to making truly engaging hybrids from bits and pieces of the past. The Klaxons don't (yet) seem capable of transcending their influences, none of them do, it's just embarrassing.

― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

I'm articulating poorly today...

It blows my mind that words like "awesome" "mysterious" and "interesting textures" are being thrown around w/r/t them here.

― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

This is ILM. There is absolutely no music that someone here wouldn't try and say was awesome. Seriously, here's a short list of horrendous music that I've seen defended or praised on ILM but never IRL:

Crazy Frog
Limp Bizkit
Paris Hilton.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

oh, that list is VERY short, haha

― timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

It illustrates the point just fine! :(

― jimn (jimnaseum), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

yes, nothing wrong with the list, i was just thinking how long that list could be

― timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, this album is far from classic, but definitely not horrendous. "As Above, So Below" or "Golden Skans" are perfect songs, the two earlier singles are funny too, they seem a bit confused, but perhaps the next album the band will decide, what's next.

Defending Fall Out Boy at ILM seems much more mysterious to me.

― zeus (zeus), Sunday, 28 January 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

FOB > KLAX0NZ.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Sunday, 28 January 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

Cheer up, emo kid!

― zeus (zeus), Sunday, 28 January 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

i heard their remixes today. they were all pretty horrible, leaden and boring, unmelodic, unsongful and just not that interesting really. they were radical remixes in the sense most of the original song had vanished but they didnt really bring anything very interesting to the remnants.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

xxxpost, tim f, yeah i got a bit excited with the 'they DO have ravey bits in their music honest!' angle... there are parts (particularly the intro) though that i swear have fills that sound kinda drum n bassy. but yeah, its not all that diff from say, mitch mitchell on fire or something. still great though.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

I made the early 90s student indie comparison months ago FWIW but I reckon Tom is broadly OTM. I quite like the franticness of the tracks I have heard (Atlantis To Interzone in particular) and you can't argue with the bassline on that track.

I haven't heard the record yet but I enjoyed all their records up to now (most of the remixes are better though). I suspect the album is more enjoyable if you're not reaching to see the rave in there somewhere.

still can't understand who was that idiot who gave this record to Lex to write a review about it.

Well, the Lex is their dance music writer, they've been selling themself as New Rave, so he got it to review IIRC. Klaxons hype bites them in the arse arf. But playing the 'he doesn't know who David Byrne' card is unfair considering they're paying him to review by and large dance music and rnb. Surprised this didn't get the full-page Petridish treatment though.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

But actually "unpleasant overdriven bass" and "nasty screaming treble" sound great to me. I think part of the problem with the Lex's anti-rock arguments is that they often don't progress any further than "what is this horrible sound it hurts my sensitive ears" and this review is exactly that but there you go.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

If there *was* lots of unpleasant overdriven bass that would be a step in the right direction

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:06 (eighteen years ago)

Surely even Lex would know that David Byrne was the guy on the X-Press 2 hit. If he doesn't then he's a bit LAZY doing his research!

*tumbling_tumbleweeds.jpeg &c*

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:06 (eighteen years ago)

As far as the full page Petridish treatment is concerned, they can hardly compete with the TOP THREE DEMOLISHING BEHEMOTHS who are Jamie T and Just Jack.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

I think people tried to point out the X-press 2 connection on the Timberlake thread where this all began, but to no avail. I was just an entertained observer, though

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

i hate that x-press 2 track! katie g made me a talking heads compilation but i haven't got round to listening to it yet cos all my cds are in boxes.

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:14 (eighteen years ago)

what do you mean "all my cds" grandad?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

those 'all my cds' have taken up a quarter of my lounge for...a quarter of the last year.

i only have one cd

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:18 (eighteen years ago)

well actually its a 4cd boxset of western swing

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

i still listen to cds, i don't have an ipod or anything. i'm buying a shiny new laptop today though so maybe my listening habits will change!

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

actually when i say a quarter of the last year, i mean a third.

it feels like those horrible cds are building up to covering a third of the lounge too

shall i burn them, dear readers?

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:20 (eighteen years ago)

first into the fire: ciara, or is that too mean. perhaps i shall start off with one of lexs CLASH cds? or maybe luscious jackson

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:21 (eighteen years ago)

string them together to make sunlight reflectors for your tomatoes

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:21 (eighteen years ago)

you can burn that horrid promo i got the other day, with that vile press release about...whatever it was about, i forget.

you can't burn ciara because i have her in my pocket :)

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:21 (eighteen years ago)

those 'all my cds' have taken up a quarter of my lounge for...a quarter of the last year.
i only have one cd

is your lounge less then one square metre?

― m the g (mister the guanoman), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:22 (eighteen years ago)

i have one cd. it is on a shelf

lex has many cds. they take up one third of my lounge

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

ah, I see. I didn't realise this was a shared lounge thingy.

― m the g (mister the guanoman), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Odd-Couple-Photograph-C10102413.jpeg

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

imelda marcos strikes me as a lex-y kinda gal...

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/comment/story/0,,2000888,00.html

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:29 (eighteen years ago)

"I'd only heard of Asperger's a few years ago," Byrne says now, "when a group out of Stanford proposed a spectrum that goes from autism to Asperger's to sort-of-good-at-math. I thought, 'Wow, I see a lot of myself in that.'

the plot thickens!

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

'...and the home of everyone in this spectrum is called 'ilm''

― and what (ooo), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Yep.

Wonder if Byrne will be making reference to Imelda getting the Beatles roughed up at Manila airport in '66 for not kissing her, um, shoes?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

did she really?! ♥

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Says so in Revolution In The Head at any rate - apparently one of the main reasons why they stopped touring.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

well, i fully approve

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Lex, do you agree with Beyonce's comments in this month's GQ that people growing up in American ghettos don't deserve to be famous as she is becuase they wouldn't know what to do with the wealth?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

aw did b pass up the chance to make it her 'cheryl tweedy moment' wrt lex? :(

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Yea, i will start with one of his Clash CDs

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

SKA IS GAY, REGGAE IS GAY
YOU'RE FUCKING GAY, AND YOU'RE NOT PUNK
YOU SAY YOU HATE CORPORATIONS, BUT YOU WHERE ON NBC
LONDON's CALLING AND THEY'RE CALLING YOU GAY

RANCID SUCKS RANCID SUCKS RANCID SUCKS AND THE CLASH SUCKED TOO
RANCID SUCKS RANCID SUCKS RANCID SUCKS AND THE CLASH SUCKED TOO

IF KENNY G. HAD A MOHAWK, HE WOULDN'T BE PUNK
IF YANNI HAD DUMB TATTOOS, HE WOULDN'T BE PUNK
IF GARTH BROOKS PIERCED HIS NOSE, HE WOULDN'T BE PUNK
IF LIBERACE SOUNDED LIKE THE CLASH, HE WOULDN'T BE PUNK

RANCID SUCKS RANCID SUCKS RANCID SUCKS AND THE CLASH SUCKED TOO
RANCID SUCKS RANCID SUCKS RANCID SUCKS AND THE CLASH SUCKED TOO

YOU'RE GAY, YOU SUCK
YOU'RE GAY, YOU SUCK
YOU'RE GAY, YOU SUCK
YOU'RE GAY, YOU SUCK
YOU'RE GAY, YOU SUCK
YOU'RE GAY, YOU SUCK
AND THE CLASH SUCKED TOO

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

if only Hitler had been a woman, and a fabulous diva eh?

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

Wonder if Byrne will be making reference to Pavel Haas's death at Auschwitz in 1944, preventing him from recording any more of his boring whiteboy symphonic works
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), January 29th, 2007. (nostudium) (later)

did he really?! ♥

-- lex pretend (lexusjee...), January 29th, 2007. (lex pretend) (later)

Petr Ginz

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

With Lex and Beyonce it's an Amanda Platell kind of deal.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

my favourite beyoncé diva story

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

But this is not R&B, and not dance music!

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

the Guardian doesn't really DO those

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Come to think of it we haven't had a Petridish article about the death of dance music for some time.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

that's because of it's current creative fertility.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

Booka Shade Will Change Your Life

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

I see no recent detailed analyses of the Booka Shade oeuvre on Woebot TV.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

fwiw i din't mind the review; like lex, i can't be arsed to listen to this kind of stuff; but that bit about dance music and how the kaxons defiled the memory of rave was bit like 'alex macpherson, dance authority', and that made me all o rly.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

Better than "Petridish, dance authority" though, viz. everyone says that New Rave is the coming thing and that the Klaxons are The Future but I ALEXIS know better Metal Machine Music punchable is that 350 words yet ta

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.razoric.com/games/images/spot_psp.jpg

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

isnt it not so much whether records are given to reviewers in 'their field', but that for records over a certain level of hype/backing/profile etc they no longer have the protection of 'genre reviewing' and potentially sympathetic reviewers and have to fight it out in the open

ie, a small record, let someone genre-familiar review it, for an artist with a higher profile, isnt the subtext that it doesnt get reviewed as what genre it rose from, but just as pop music, since that is what it is now (potentially at least) competing with

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

difference is that Lex thinks Metal Machine Music is the next Gwen Stefani album (xpost)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

lex doesn't review stuff 'just as pop music' -- here's it's explicitly judged against the standard set by contemporary house and techno.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

There's not much temptress/tempted stuff going on with the Klaxons.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

thats not what i mean

what i mean is, records above a certain profile are liable, and likely, to be given to anyone to review. whereas a small record will only be given to a genre-specific reviewer

how they approach the review is up to them

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

I'm so glad people stopped caring about rockism in 2004 so we don't have to have that argument again on this thread.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

Personally I think Lex should take over I ALEXIS's job and judge every new release against the standards set by contemporary house and techno!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

tbh i thought they'd stopped making techno :(

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

He could work the phrase "PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR [x]" into every review, thus leading to humour through repetition

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

otm

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

i still listen to cds, i don't have an ipod or anything. i'm buying a shiny new laptop today though so maybe my listening habits will change!
-- lex pretend (lexusjee...), January 29th, 2007.

Jesus, you're in for a REAL shock as far as "unpleasant overdriven bass" and "nasty screaming treble" on computer speakers!!

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.playlouder.com/review/+myths-of-the/

Perhaps this is directed to ... Lex?

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

rock journalist

yeah definitely Lexbabes

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

"If it's house music you're after then you won't like this because this (sorry to point out the bloody obvious) is something completely different."

otm, xpost, etc.

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

My god, that's a horribly designed page.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

it's ironic dude!

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

am i talking about klaxons or playlouder or lex?

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

I love that the basis of that article is that Lex = GRANDAD.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

haha there is so much irony in that thread!

"rather like listening to some middle-aged pub bore going on about Beyonce not being proper R&B like The Small Faces"

lex all over.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, this is really funny.

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

(and then the article proceeds to go on about the roots of the Klaxons music in grandad fashion)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

'thread' meaning 'review' (jesus)

xpost

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

A confused Lex at last month's Club Poptimism:

ihttp://www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/features/wallpaper/images/1024/clive_dunn.jpg

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Which broadsheet papers is the reviewer talking about in his first sentence?

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

does graun still qualify as broadsheet?

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

"These young pups obviously know more about rave than some of their more significantly older critics."

it's as if playlouder's chap lurked here. the line cuts cos one might wonder whether yer man lex has in fact heard of meat beat manifesto...

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

Doran sounds about 50 himself.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

i love it when ILM* goes a bit 'he may be The Lex but he's OUR Lex'

*ok just me

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

xposts. If he had lurked he wouldn't think the Lex was significantly older than the Klaxons though, so aha!

But yeah, he probably hasnae heard of Meat Beat Manifesto but that's kind of besides the point. If someone decided to make a genre called "New punk" but it had little or no similarity to punk except for a few lazy signifiers and a cover of God Save the Queen you wouldn't criticise someone writing an article decrying them because bro hadn't heard of the Weirdos or something.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

do playlouder pay their writers?

― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

i believe so. i think it's a front for bmg or summat.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

xpost. "Do they pay their web page designer?" is more to the point!

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

They've had some pretty heavyweight writers over the years for an online zine, and yet they still get beaten down something like 13 to 1 when it comes to hits versus Drowned In Sound.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

(i have said this before but my ex-boss (like me useless health bureaucrasy parasite, only he was even worse) wrote for them and made a thing of it. dunno which 'heavyweight' writers you mean dom. heawood?)

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Dom Passantino? lol, joeks ;)

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

playlouder is beggars

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

playlouder is butters

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

Playlouder is buttez?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

loosen up my buttonz babe uh huh

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

so, do you know meat beat manifesto or not?

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

i'd wager you don't

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

lots of other stuff, but.. > Playlouder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drowned In Sound

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

except design-wise (even tho DiS bites pitchfork style)

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

i miss swells rants on playlouder.
have heard of a design overhaul over at playlouder towers, but this was a long time ago, and as yet, nothing has been forthcoming.
they are very aware that the sites ugly and unsearchable, which is a shame as in their archives are some fine articles.

and for all the nu-rave tagline, i have to admit that 3 listens in and i'm falling for this klaxons album ..

― mark e (mark e), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

this is just the new General Levy 'i run jungle' as far as i'm concerned. bun dem.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

ok, i've been asked to post this on behalf of the one and only Mr Doran :

"Hello,

I can't work out how to register but just wanted to point out that if
Lex spent less time posting on this Dungeons and Dragons message forum
and more time listening to records then perhaps I wouldn't have to
punch my fists through the wall every time I read his ill-informed
ravings. (Which isn't too often as he's actually very good when he's
heard of the genre of music.)

Playlouder isn't a front for anything. It used to get sponsored by The
Cartel but now solely by Beggars I think. DiS, it is true, certainly
have better business sense than we seem to, if not always better
writers.

I'm 35 you cheeky cunt.

And the rest of you: get some bloody work done.

All the best John Doran"

― mark e (mark e), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

this Dungeons and Dragons message forum

Saving throw vs. psionic attack.

And the rest of you: get some bloody work done.

I did! I've been reviewing albums even!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

DORANTROLL

SKILL: 4
STRENGTH: 3
STAMINA: 2

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

God if it carries on like this he'll be actually volunteering to review the second Kaiser Chiefs album just for the attention.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

Hello,

A mate of mine just told me why my ears were burning.

And I just worked out how to post myself, so just to prove that I'm not a troll. (I hope.)

I just wanted to point out that if Lex spent less time posting on this Dungeons and Dragons message forum and more time listening to records then perhaps I wouldn't have to punch my fists through the wall every time I read his ill-informed ravings, which is like being lectured on James Joyce by a horse. (Which isn't too often as he's actually very good when he's heard of the genre of music.)

And more to the point it's not like we get paid a lot of money. That was a one star review? There should have been blood dripping down the walls, viscera hanging from the strip light, vitreous humour sprayed right across the page. It's one of the few fun things about this job, putting the boot in when you're sure it's deserved. You can always tell when people don't have the courage of their convictions when it comes to this. For a one star review that was like being mauled by a set of wind up teeth.

I'm 35 you cheeky cunt.

And the rest of you: get some bloody work done.

Hello Marcello. So this is where you spend the rest of your time? SHOUTING about DAMON PANCAKE FACE ALBARN no DOUBT.

All the best, John Doran

― john doran (John D), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

He's no Michael Hann.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

your post would have come across better without the spoiler above

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

good review, though

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

how many one-star reviews do you get in/on Guardian in an average season?

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

My review in Stylus goes up tomorrow. Keep 'em peeled kiddies.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

i was a little too quick off the mark - apologies for the so called spoiler, was just carrying out the request, etc etc

― mark e (mark e), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

dom, we already know what you think, spoiler above

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

centering one's review around someone else's review is bad form, plain and simple.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

lex didn't do this which makes his review better by default.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

Surely that's critical discourse though? One writer puts a view forward, another one puts an opposing one forward, and at the end of the day we discover whether Jessica Hopper or Stephen Merrit have more black friends.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

the more informed review is better by default, dont be a twat

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

Spoiler Doran's review still beats D&D Lex's.

And I bought the album on my lunchbreak for 6 and a half pounds. I wish more of the songs sounded like 'Golden Skans' but it's pretty great so far. The lyrics make for a good time.

In a back room somewhere Black Dice are plotting a graphic design-themed lawsuit.

So, all in all, it reminds me of rave music, only more nu.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

it doesn't carry much useful information itself tho. yeah we know they like Altern 8 big deal. (xpost)

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

ok i'm being a bit harsh, the descriptions of the songs on the albums were adequate. and it's not his fault if none of this compels me to listen to the album (not that lex has either obv.). i just get really irked when people start a review by bitching about some other piece/person.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

i think john was pre-emptively pointing to the trend that most reviewers will follow when they review this album, not necessarily to only lex's review

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

35 and listening to the Klaxons. Interesting.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

only bile i have seen is lex's but ok (xpost)

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

it could be said that reviewing music for a job at any age is "interesting"

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

xgau is actually 8

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

Would explain the shitty grammar!

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

And the rest of you: get some bloody work done.

Just wrote a review about the Klaxon's album in Hungarian!

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

what's big in Hungary at the mo?

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

Fucking shite week when we get to 250 posts about The fucking Klaxons, innit?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

It's January. And it's definitely Arctic Monkeys thread redux.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

what's big in Hungary at the mo?
New rave certainly isn't. Tokio Hotel, yes.

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

...''Unbelievable''
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV1mmggE29I

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone should do what I do in January - ignore new records and just buy headphones instead.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

Nick we've actually had about 12 posts discussing the Klaxons and about 248 about reviews of the Klaxons which isn't very interesting even if Dom's internationally anticipated review turns out to be Joyce fellating Tolstoy on acid.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

I know! That's even worse!

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

I think Lex is the PR machine behind the Klaxons, this thread is the proof!

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

i listened to a song on their myspace. they sounded like a rock band from england....i don't get what the deal is. how is it like rave or whatever?

― M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

Nick we've actually had about 12 posts discussing the Klaxons and about 248 about reviews of the Klaxons which isn't very interesting

i listened to a song on their myspace. they sounded like a rock band from england....i don't get what the deal is.

i want to stand right between these two statements and add that i think it is a pretty okay record.

― mike powell (mike powell), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

35 and listening to the Klaxons. Interesting.

So what, I'm 4rwer.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 29 January 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, my fingers slipped while typing.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 29 January 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

4 rowr?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Foxysomething.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

http://thewirecutters.com/WC/album_mod/upload/bedbecd79751171538aee5d02363547e.jpg

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and 35 and listening to the Klaxons. Interesting. is the stupidest thing said on this thread yet. Impressive!

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

http://filexoom.com/files/2007/1/3/51473/My%20Love%20%28Justin%20Timberlake%20Cover%20-%20B.mp3

What next?

― MRZBW (MRZBW), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Eww.

The "35 and listening to the Klaxons" comment wasn't meant to be bitchy though I'm not seeing it does come off that way. I think it was more to do with the fact that when I see positive reviews of haircut-indie bands decrying fusty, old critics I tend to think it's going to be a young Nathan Barley character writing it.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

now even.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Also I think you're missing out this choice quote from titchy, which has been ingrained into my memory like goatse, in finding the stupidest thing on this thread:

its a shame they havent drawn from stuff going on now like grime rhythms

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

Haha that Timberlake cover sort of works in ways I would never have expected it to. KlaxonBloke's falsetto isn't any worse than Justin's anyway.

Jimn - the thing is, we haven't even started talking about Hadouken yet!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Christ, is this actually real: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=144841230 ?

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

i listened to a song on their myspace. they sounded like a rock band from england....

-- M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (matt@game[remove]informer.com), January 29th, 2007. (Matt Helgeson) (later)

Thread autosummarise.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Hadouken!

There's good news and there's bad news:

The good: those looking for an indie band with more actual rave sounds
The bad: those who hate the Klaxons will *really* hate Hadouken!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgGItLYyBQ0

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

FUCK HADOUKEN

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

i'm opening up for them in march, don't hate me

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

and already opened up for klaxons :/

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

Bend over and open up wide for Hadouken.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

(Sorry).

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Klaxons aren't particularly hateful, just a bit hyped which is always irksome when you don't feel something at all. Hadouken are some next level horror. head in hands.gif material.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

Hadouken vs The Horrors: battle for ILM Britishes' hearts in the 07.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

the NME is the real enemy here, people

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

my band opened for the futureheads. they seemed like pretty nice guys. they were good live, too.

― M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

no, i blame james blunt. wouldn't it be funny if james blunt died?

― hypocritical indie fuxxxxor (Haberdager), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

the human race is the real enemy here

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, fucking hell, yeah, Hadouken!!!!! And nobody has mentioned Enter Shikari!!!!!

Nu-Rave Nu-Metal!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also current NME faves!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4MiC67seUY

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

It's more nu-trance metalcore to be a pedant. The football terrace handclaps are the best bit.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

I keep assuming Enter Shikari are just a massive prank, so I'm not totally aggrevated by them just yet.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

One of them is June "Dot Cotton" Brown's nephew or something, right?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

OK, even I can't deal with this Shikari. It's like nu-metal-emo-rave.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

oh my GOD hadouken how does that shit manage to even EXIST i did not think anything in life could possibly be that bad

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

as for enter shikari i couldn't get past 30 seconds

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

with that attitude, hopefully you'll be bale to review them in the near future

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

Hadouken: The music is good. The singer needs to be slowly kicked to death.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

that attitude, hopefully you'll be bale to review them in the near future

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/uploads/images/may_06/sfc_1147951725_bale.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

The absolute best (or worst as the case may be) thing to come out of all this is the Hadouken remix of "Atlantis to Interzone" which can be found near the bottom of this post on Good Weather for Airstrikes.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

I favour slow poisoning by 200 glowstick suppositories as a torture method.

reading the new NME awards nominations wot dj martian just posted, I'm seeing how the Klaxons might look incredibly exciting IN THAT COMPANY.

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

i'm assuming that is someone named bale?

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

That Hadouken video had me scrambling for the 'close window' button but I'm sort of sheepish to admit I enjoyed the ~Enter Shikari video. They need to make more of the big girly trance bits and and make the rock a bit gayer and they'd be great.

The Hadouken remix of the Klaxons is possibly the only thing I've heard by them that works.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)

I'm still sort of awed by the sheer barefaced tastelessness of all this though. The novelty is bound to wear off soon.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

someone (I'm too young :D (ok, I just wanted to say that once)) remind me what horrors of mediocrity the whole student-rock/fraggle/Neds/other exciting "rock-dance" hybrid stuff was eclipsing in 1992 in the way the Klaxons are poised to wipe the grease of Pete Doherty's face and then slap him sober today??

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

Matt the "sheer barefaced tastelessness" is THE WHOLE POINT!

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

Oh I know, but I sort of felt compelled to listen to some of that nice 60s Xtian soft pop that Gareth sent me in order to cleanse myself.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

the thing that's wtf about it is how it isn't actually tasteless at all, it's really a pretty cynical and refined marriage of SOME bits of indie and SOME bits of neon/trash/rave... but still far much more a further extension of electroclash than it is taking any new sartorial RISKS of it's own.

we haven't seen the new "rave pants" stage yet. maybe the e isn't strong enough.

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure if I'm making myself understood AT ALL here...

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

And so 300 wanders aimlessly and inexorably into view.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

Hadouken vs Lady Sov - FITE!!!

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

maybe the e isn't strong enough

The tunes certainly aren't.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

Wedding Present, Mega City Four: dour mediocrity
Paris Angels, EMF, Jesus Jones: erm, thrilling reactive excitement
Neds, Fraggle, Camden Lurch: mediocrity regroups and revenges itself

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

this is a number of posts too late but i got distracted

http://www.christianbale.net/galleries/psycho/images/ap_672.jpg

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

The Family Cat? The Senseless Things? That stuff makes Doherty sound like Funkadelic.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

HMMM maybe a bit further back?!

The Wedding Present makes me remember... was the whole shambling/twee/c86 thing still pretty big in like 1989? Gosh I miss the Chart Show :( and Smash Hits genre charts and... /rushes to find pipe & tobacco

I'd actually defend Ned's & some of those other groups to some extent too.

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

okay that shikari song is so bad it's actually awesome

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

it's the woofing that does it

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

I can't remember the Family Cat at all (saw them live too, equally unmemorable hours later...) Senseless Things BETTER than people probably remember. ALL these type of groups limped on for far too fucking long though (third album universally = TOO LONG).

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

From memory it took a lot of the C86 bands some time to get round to releasing albums. George Best came out in late '87 I think. Tho it's grossly unfair to lump the Wedding Present in with the dour mediocrity crew, seeing as they were a Pop group with a comedy lead singer.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

seriously the sooner Nth wave screamo bands over here start including completely incongruous trance keyboards the better

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

The Wedding Present were still big in 89 but they were starting to toughen up their sound a little, get Steve Albini in and suchlike.

An brief lineage of British indie-dance:

Age Of Change
Pop Will Eat Itself
Happy Mondays (Oakenfold Remixes)
Primal Scream (ditto)
Flowered Up
Paris Angels
New FADS
EMF
Jesus Jones
Back To The Planet
Senser
[bacillus eradicated by modern science until]
Campag Velocet
[i think i'm missing some attempt at a baggy revival before]
Kasabian
THE KLAXONS!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

Age of CHANCE, obv. Sorry.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

You missed The High.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

what does dog latin have pencilled in for 89/90/91?* I remember a whole giant smear of fraggling, comedy baggy-rock-dance & shoegaze basically dominating sixth form hearts and minds... whilst those in the know of course, RAVED IT UP bigstyle. I was never in the know :(

*I'm suddenly thinking '92 is too late, being Grunge & all that breaking?

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

How soon we forget Sunshine Underground.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

How soon we forget the Chemical Brothers.

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

They were dance-indie not indie-dance.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

And Intastella.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

s/d: bad bands named after great songs

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

i can't keep up with all this

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

what were linkin park?

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

Silverfish... that woman who sang about "I'm a shotgun when you wanna be a warm sun/gun(?)" and other Curve biters...

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

aside from not british

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

An American version of Vex Red.

xxp

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

They were a rap group I think.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

Actually between Senser and Campag you could put "sundry awful Chemical Brothers remixes", they kept the flame alive.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

i'm actually thinking the prodigy smuggled the disease over here on their first major tour and gave us nu-metal

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

having read dom's review i can't say if it'll get this thread up to 500 posts but it's got a pretty sweet punchline.

― pza (elwisty), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

I think the relative merits of Sp!n and Spirea X will have the thread at 500 soon enough.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

maybe the Lo-Fis (xpost 2)

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

Where do Republica figure in all this?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

I always figured nu-metal was the 1st Faith No More album plus Ice T.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

[i think i'm missing some attempt at a baggy revival before]

Space Monkeys?

― zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

Where do Republica figure in all this?

Meh, they're no Olive.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

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― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

You people do know that the Chemical Brothers put out an awesome track very recently?

It's the most blatant Mandarine Girl ripoff I've heard yet but I played it last Monday and the Lex refused to believe it was the Chemical Brothers until the big drums came in.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

i stopped caring about the Chems after the last album

Meh, they're no Olive.

indeed not, totally different!

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

Steve I know, weirdly though they've started being good again. I'm sure it won't last as long as the next album proper though.

Also I think Tom missed out the Regular Fries between Campag Velocet and Kasabian. Or blotted them out.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

okay that track was completely meh until halfway through when suddenly it got totally awesome

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

It's the most blatant Mandarine Girl ripoff I've heard yet

it's neither as blatant nor as great as 'get together'!

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

EBWs were always relatively decent tho

Regular Fries is the right call yes

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

Senser
[bacillus eradicated by modern science until]
Campag Velocet

Haha, how soon you forget... actually, I can't bring myself to say it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

That Petrol Emotion beat lots of those fuckos to the indie dance thing.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:13 (eighteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Junkys

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

oh MC Tunes, how the mighty were fallen.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:15 (eighteen years ago)

I really loved that MC Tunes album :(

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIh5Ywa-LWo

Worst rapping ever.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

Weren't TPE Irish-American?

Anyway I never 'bought' them as an indie-dance act.

(Big Audio Dynamite on the other hand should be at the front of that list.)

Matt - where do Dreadzone fit in?

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

Dreadzone = crusty pop

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

Alabama 3's sound is a self-professed blend of country, blues, and acid house.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

Weren't TPE Irish-American?

Pretty much. (Irish except for the singer, who was from Seattle and therefore invented grunge.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

lol the Eighties: "you gotta agitate, educate, wear a donkey jacket and flog the Socialist Worker in the Student Union"

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

They were from Derry so technically Brits. Steve Mack was from Seattle though.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

Ex-Undertones apart from the Yank, right?

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

Black Grape also (ONE good single?)

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

Who's going to make the Lex a compilation album of all this then?

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

Dreadzone fit snugly next to Transglobal Underground.

Also, if you're claiming there's a mid-90s lull then you're missing the elephant in the room.

http://www.smashingpress.com/bentleys/photos/misc/_764276_bentley_rhythm_ace300.jpg

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

I never realised at the time how much Steve Mack looked like Rik in The Young Ones.

This thread is alarmingly like being in Spiders nightclub in 1988.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

cooledit > remove guitars?

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

being in Spiders nightclub in 1988 > being in Spiders nightclub in 2007

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

I can't go to Spiders nowadays. I feel like a paedo and I probly work with half those kids.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

i suppose big beat was inherently indie dance. Dreadzone didn't really sound at all like TU tho (TU probably closer to Sabres Of Paradise, who are not at all the acceptable face of indie-dance for stoners no sirree)

i'd like to know the deal with the Grace cover at least (reasons for doing it). presumably not ironic in the slightest but it seems such a weird choice either way.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

not enough Ministry, NIN & goth/industrial metal for spiders though...

I haven't been in ages, and I'm never drunk enough to get into any real bother these days anyway EVEN THERE. Moderation kills me :(

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:24 (eighteen years ago)

i'd like to know the deal with the Grace cover at least (reasons for doing it)

Because they wanted to make me very very angry?

xpost

Moderation would be a very good idea right now.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

I need to go to bed now. Is it sad I've enjoyed this thread more than pretty much anything on ILE in like six months?

The Grace cover is actually pretty good by the way, but I think its the song itself doing most of the work and the cover manages not to ruin it.

I've just listened to bits of the album and will work out my thoughts tomorrow morning but a) it's alright and b) the rerecorded Atlantis To Interzone is like awesome.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

That cover reminds me of one of Snuff's comedy covers (i.e. 'I Think We're Alone Now'). They'll be doing 'Kwik Fit Fitter' next, mark my words.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

I think Big Beat is muddying the waters a bit.

Horrible way to spend 3 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FjVjt78iqk

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

Lo-Fi Allstars should be in there before Campag I think. The Pigeonhed teamup even had a grunge 'hands across the ocean' factor 'n junk

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:27 (eighteen years ago)

Big Beat pretty much was the late 90s indie dance tho (xp)

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

I think the lineage from early 90's indie-dance to late is a bit tenuous.

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:30 (eighteen years ago)

Blaspehmest thou not against the indie-dance continuum.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

'Golden Skans' might as well be Hard Fi really. I don't hate it tho.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

Scrapping the shitty bits off the bottom of the indie dance barrel:

Flowered Up - Weekender
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDmc31PjyCE

The Farm - Groovy Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_ws0FPoEKE

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

Scraping even.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

haha, Matt I just figured out who that pic actually was. I'm not going to contest this battle!

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

The pendulum swing is "hip-hop element to our music" to "house element" back to "hip-hop element" and so on.

xpost there is SO MUCH barrel below "Weekender"!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgEw_YtfxYM

World of Twist, a propos of nothing really, just because it's fucking beautiful.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think these indie-dance groups have much to do with the Klaxons.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

agreed!

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

The songs descend the same chords repeatedly and ponderously, as if these bands were falling through the same barrel of shite over and over again.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

I do think indie-GUITAR-dance is of a different stripe to that which was quite obviously reacting to, and absorbent of, proper dahnce though.

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

This is more interesting than the Klaxons tho.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

they're suspiciously similar in intent, influence, sound and purpose.

or maybe the Klaxons are "unprecedented"? (c)NME

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

I think the futurist streak to the Klaxons lyrics is a lot different to any of the old cack that went before. I guess a lot of those bands (i.e. the Farm, Jesus Jones) were celebrating the there-and-then rave moment, whereas the Klaxons are mapping out some sort of Sun Ra-esque future place or something.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

some sort of Sun Ra-esque future place

My head hurts.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone consistently forgets The Space Monkeys!!!!

Who were definitely the most ravey of the proto-nu-rave groups, they even had a song called "Acid House Killed Rock & Roll"

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously Ned, I'm hearing Sun Ra there. Especially all the Atlantis stuff. I dunno, I'm trying to think my self through some sort of booze fug here.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

it's a shame lyrics aren't music

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

All that 'come with me, come with me, we'll travel to infinity' is soooo fucking Ra.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

maybe that is the Rave part after all.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

Tis too, but I guess their coming from the same place. Don't forget Sun Ra played the Hacienda in 1989.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

Nu American Indie Dance

!!! (Chk Chk Chk) - Heart Of Hearts (from Myth Takes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDq8Krv6irE

sounds like across between Max Q, A Certain Ratio circa 1990, The Beloved, Finitribe and Fluke

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

More indie dance revisited:

Spacemen 3 - Big City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQA03ZmynBU

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

seeing this thread just now reminded me that i wanted to check this lot out.

so i'm checking them out.

MY GOD, THEY ARE FUCKING DREADFUL. they have to be a joke. they're a joke band, right? a-ha-ha-ha?

that said, i've not heard golden wotsit yet. if it turns out to be good, i'll come back here and be contrite.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:33 (eighteen years ago)

no, it's fucking dreadful too. it sounds like someone farting into a bottle.

good god.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:36 (eighteen years ago)

this thread = you all deserve each other

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

No it doesn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn1G557fjTo

x-post

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:39 (eighteen years ago)

i really want that to be a video of someone farting into a bottle.

i'm not going to look at it, because i don't want to spoil it for myself.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

oh man!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

having decided to look (and laughed, loudly), i think my initial comparison was spot-on.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:53 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously Ned, I'm hearing Sun Ra there. Especially all the Atlantis stuff. I dunno, I'm trying to think my self through some sort of booze fug here.

Well anyhow, checking out my hunch, here's the Simian Mobile Disco MySpace page with Sun Ra's picture right next to the Klaxons, so maybe I'm not just idly farting through my booze hat after all.

Also Sun Ra's Atlantis album turns out to be credited to the Astro Infinity Arkestra, so yeah, I reckon there is a definite thing afoot there, albeit maybe filtered through the producer.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

...and 400.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:15 (eighteen years ago)

lex hasn't even contributed that much to this thread. i don't know what's gotten into ilx lately!

(lock plz?)

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:16 (eighteen years ago)

Why lock? This has been educational, seriously.
So, for people who like the album, do you think there's another single on it?

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:18 (eighteen years ago)

Well, maybe I was being melodramatic, but it's still been a pointless circular ILM blow-out of the most futile proportions. It's also been educational about the sort of music it's better not to be educated about; the Hadouken video should have signalled the end, IMO... :P

Nah, it's just that this thread has trodden the same ground repeatedly, run its course, and needs to be put to rest ASAP.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:22 (eighteen years ago)

You're new here, aren't you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

Louis you're way off here

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:27 (eighteen years ago)

WAY xpost by the way, I'm a bit confused by this post, did you do a 180 on this stuff Cameron? or am I reading it wrong and you're just agreeing w/Lex about the bandwagonism of said Klaxons and supporters?

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:35 (eighteen years ago)

fwiw I'm still firmly on the fence w/r/t indieclash in general...

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:41 (eighteen years ago)

listen to the bloody thing in full here (for a while)

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

Louis stop making pained requests for threads to be 'put to rest', it won't happen. Especially as there's been very little discussion on the record itself yet and hey this is nothing compared to some of what's out there in the archives.

Listening to the album again on the way in the bits that aren't the four singles or the Grace cover (and Magick is pretty dodgy) are all rub. Like Tom says, rub with potential, but still pretty shonky. Unlike Tom, I reckon its especially so when the tempo drops and you realise the songwriting is really quite weak.

Badly produced as well - Atlantis To Interzone works because of the sheer overload factor and there's actually some bass going on. Elsewhere its way too top-heavy and the dude has a pretty poor voice that they don't do much to save. Simian Mobile Disco are pretty poor producers anyway - they get away with it on their own stuff because the music successfully fills the gap but some of the songs on the Klaxons album highlight the production faults rather than disguise them.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:14 (eighteen years ago)

'Magick' is a dead ringer for the Liars ca. They Were Wrong... isn't it? I think they're a much stronger influence than any trad indie dance nonsense especially in the rhythms and vox.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:24 (eighteen years ago)

Magick sounds like Liars?!

― jimn (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

Es-yay.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:32 (eighteen years ago)

I really don't get the comparison whatsoever. Bunch of snare rolls and open high hat ≠ dead ringer for Liars.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:35 (eighteen years ago)

More indie dance revisited:
Spacemen 3 - Big City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQA03ZmynBU

-- NickB (nic...), January 30th, 2007.

this was on a compilation by... tiga?

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:40 (eighteen years ago)

I really don't get the comparison whatsoever. Bunch of snare rolls and open high hat ≠ dead ringer for Liars.

Well maybe dead ringer is pushing it, but c'mon, it's totally Liars lite. 'Magick' is even the same deal thematically as 'Room on the Broom' or whatever.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

this was on a compilation by... tiga?

Dunno about that. Was originally on the album Reoccuring which was like their nod to the rave scene played through this Suicide/Kraftwerk filter.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

aha

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone consistently forgets The Space Monkeys!!!!

I mentioned them just 324 posts above, but no one cared :(((

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 10:37 (eighteen years ago)

i think even tony wilson has forgotten the space monkeys.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

"Also I think you're missing out this choice quote from titchy, which has been ingrained into my memory like goatse, in finding the stupidest thing on this thread:
its a shame they havent drawn from stuff going on now like grime rhythms"

and what would be so wrong with that? the statik remix of bloc party is one of the best indie remixes i think ive heard.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

Matt are you saying the weak songwriting highlights the production faults? wot a recipe for disaster

never heard of the Space Monkeys
unless they're the same ones who did that dub thing with Gorillaz?

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

grime rhythms stuff going on now lolz

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

perhaps youd like them to get some ideas from 'post-grime' artists like plan b? lolz

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

never heard of the Space Monkeys
unless they're the same ones who did that dub thing with Gorillaz?

No, they were a shitty Madchester-revival band in 97-98. Didn't even get their 5 minutes, nor 15.

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

No Steve, don't think I expressed myself very well there. What I'm saying is that the poor production and poor songwriting bring out the worst in each other.

Simian Mobile Disco tracks are pretty catchy and so chock-full of sound that it hides the fact they're not very good producers. So on this album has James Ford trying and failing to put a gloss on a largely shambolic performance and it just ends up sounding cheap more often than not. The first track is a case in point.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 11:10 (eighteen years ago)

I recalled Space Monkeys being part of Tony Wilson's half assed crack at reviving Factory, about two years before that. He knew what was going on.

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 11:11 (eighteen years ago)

Simian Mobile Disco tracks are pretty catchy and so chock-full of sound that it hides the fact they're not very good producers.

So you don't think the Simian Indie Band stuff was well produced (for what it was)?

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

Don't know, never bothered to listen to them.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

what was the last mainstream/destined-to-go-top-5 album to get 9/10 in NME and 1/5 in THE GUARDIAN do we think?

― pisces (piscesx), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

I seem to remember I ALEXIS was in a foulish mood when he did the last Coldplay album.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 12:16 (eighteen years ago)

i think nm had backed out on ver play by then though?

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 12:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.nme.com/reviews/coldplay/7656 nope.

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

Dom's review is pretty OFF-tm.

Love or hate the Klaxons they've nevertheless managed to position themselves in alignment with both the ACTUAL kids, and actual dance music this time (no matter it's the kind of dance appealing more to the indie-dance demographic than ageing ravers "electro" being so passe already for some...) whether it's cunning, timing, mere NME chicanery or simple dumb luck I couldn't say.

Kasabian, The Music etc were I think selling for more records to old giffers with a taste for The Stone Roses/Oasis/Led Zeppelin... dadrock played "properly" basically. And DFA stuff somewhere in between of all this, but also saddled with the weight of good taste & professionalism.

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Funky "psychedelic" Dadrock.

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

This Enter Shikari thing is hilarious. I can't stop watching it.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

What? What? What?

― jimn (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:01 (eighteen years ago)

Best bit.

Oh, the fact that he has one of those Kaos pads which cost a few hundred quid just to make five seconds worth of crappy diddly noise at the start of the track is pretty special too.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:01 (eighteen years ago)

This discussion is WAY too long for me. Cut to the chase: Is this album worth getting or what?

― brightscreamer (brightscreamer), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:19 (eighteen years ago)

no it's shite

― jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:38 (eighteen years ago)

This Enter Shikari thing is hilarious. I can't stop watching it.
-- Spencer Chow (spencercho...), January 31st, 2007.

There's plenty more where that came from - they have a shitload of stuff on YouTube. I'm not ashamed to say I love it. I downloaded some tracks and it's almost as good of an excersizing soundtrack as Andrew W.K.'s "I Get Wet"!

As for -- brightscreamer (CORPSE.inc@gmail.com), January 31st, 2007.

Yes, it's not a mind-blower, but it's great fun and a handful of the songs are stealthy keepers.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

Weird. That should have been:

As for This discussion is WAY too long for me. Cut to the chase: Is this album worth getting or what?: Yes, it's not a mind-blower, but it's great fun and a handful of the songs are stealthy keepers.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:53 (eighteen years ago)

According to Pitchfork this is going to be UK #1 this week.

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it's about 8k ahead of Jamie T in the midweeks, I'd be very surprised if it doesn't stay there.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

who the fuck are the klaxons?

― king eagle of the Lemon Creek group (skowly), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

ok, i just watched that golden skans video. totally boring.

― king eagle of the Lemon Creek group (skowly), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:42 (eighteen years ago)

Then it's settled!

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

quotes from klaxons taken from blissout.blogspot -

“We wanted to make organic dance music. All the dance bands relied on electronic programming and drum machines. We wanted to take that and give it a human element. The sort of breakbeats that were used in tunes in the early ‘90s, we take those beats and recreate them on drums… It’s about taking an early-90s approach but making that into apocalyptic pop songs”.

and maybe slightly contradictorily -

“We’re looking for that sort of early-90s euphoric feeling, but not necessarily that sound.”

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

i love enter shikari, they deserve their own thread

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

We wanted to take that and give it a human element.

DUHHHHHHHHHHHH

why do some bellends STILL think of 'electronic programming' and drum machines as 'not human'?

fine if you want a 'live' sound for drums or whatever but then if so just say that, not 'human' ffs.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

it's also the sort of thing that bands said ten years ago. super furry animals, maybe even the charlatans.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

errr...maybe because the sound of a human being physically playing drums is very different to the sound of programmed percussion? what's wrong with using 'human' as shorthand for that sound?

― m the g (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

The sort of breakbeats that were used in tunes in the early ‘90s, we take those beats and recreate them on drums

If only they DID! There must be a gazillion metal/noize/thrash bands with competent drummers who could actually walk AND talk this absolute BS into something real.

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

We wanted to take that and give it a human element

This is always, always an excuse for bad music.

― a nuclear-powered carrot (braveclub), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

We wanted to take that and give it a half-assed, stumbling, arrythmic, indie-friendly element

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

. The sort of breakbeats that were used in tunes in the early ‘90s, we take those beats and recreate them on drums…

breakbeats like 'funky drummer', 'apache' and 'amen'?!

― boom! i fucked your hard-drive (don), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

"We wanted to take that and give it a human element"
This is always, always an excuse for bad music.

-- a nuclear-powered carrot (fishohfis...), February 1st, 2007.

i have read so much post-reynolds sludge on human/non-human musics that by now i really couldn't be more bored by BOLD STATEMENTS like this.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Okay that quote.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

I like it, I think.

I mean, the lyrics are a little boring. And all the songs are about 2 minutes too long. But I felt the same way about Roscoe. Also; they do that ridiculous pagan thing that Zeppelin sometimes did that drives me crazy. And some of their lyrics have that stoner wisdom quality that Floyd sometimes did, that also drives me crazy. So... they're like Zeppelin and Floyd. Which is a great thing, right?

It's nice background music. Like if I'm not paying attention. Their voices are kinda annoying though, aren't they? And they keep singing about... touching their hands on "Golden Skans." How can you touch your own hands? I guess by placing your fingertips down against your palm. And that's what I've come away from this album.

I don't like it, I think.

― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 09:10 (eighteen years ago)

"And all the songs are about 2 minutes too long."
as the album is a mere 35 minutes (enough of fucking bonus tracks 15+ minutes after album finishes please) i find this a little mad.
if the tracks were any shorter the thing would be a single.
oh hang on ..

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

Just because it would reduce the LP to an EP doesn't justify prolonging the songs. Is there an argument against them "being too long" other than it would turn the album into a single?

― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 10:07 (eighteen years ago)

The other thing 'Golden Skans' reminds me of, for some reason, is the Future Kings Of Spain's 'Your Starlight'. I'm not saying they necessarily sound the same however.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

i guess its the fact that i believe the songs are worthy of a few minutes airtime, so cant really agree with the statement that they should be cut by 2 minutes. i believe that the songs certainly dont outstay their welcome. ie. in this day and age, a concise album of 35 minutes cannot really be held up as an example where songs are too reckoned to be long.
having said all that - since last weeks constant spinning of the album i have very little urge to repeat the experience.

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 10:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'll admit, I do like the Burrough's imagery. But more because I like Burroughs, and not because I feel they're doing anything interesting with it.

― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

I just can't believe how amazing the Erol Arkan remix of Golden Skans is. Best thing I heard all year. You can listen to it on their myspace.

― Lovelace, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

One thing I didn't realize how much I liked on my first listens - but has really grown on me: the Pynchon and Burrough's references. It makes me feel so erudite to listen to a song called: "Gravity's Rainbow" or "Atlantis to Interzone" and understand the reference. Very few albums have fed my ego as significantly this year. Whether this is a good thing for the Klaxons, or a bad thing... not sure.

― Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha this line ...

why do some bellends STILL think of ... drum machines as 'not human'

... has totally led to me imagining S going home after a long day of agitating for the civil rights of consumer electronics and having sex with his DR-880 wife.

― nabisco, Friday, 16 March 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

one of these days DR-880, BANG, ZOOM, straight to the chorus

― blueski, Friday, 16 March 2007 23:06 (eighteen years ago)

Still loving this.

― Spencer Chow, Friday, 16 March 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

has an indie band ever spawned this many remixes? the convergence of indie dance, blog house, scuzzy french midrange, ugly clothes and cracked copies of ableton live? "gravity's rainbow" alone has been handled by van she, nightmoves, nmedia, joakim, to my boy, kavinsky, soulwax and... todd edwards? key rist...

― jermainetwo, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

crap

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

They've spawned this many remixes because the album itself is so hideously produced that you have to go back to the stems to make it listenable.

― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

all the remixes i've heard (2) are really good!

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

the vocals kill the erol mix for me. there's a dub, but you can't get it on vinyl unfortunately.

― haitch, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

they remind me in places of fun boy three.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 08:24 (eighteen years ago)

im still listening to this album.

still not bored of golden skans, somehow.

i am however sick of seeing their faces everywhere on TV and on magazine covers etc.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 08:29 (eighteen years ago)

Klaxons remixes >>>>>>>>>> Klaxons in almost every single instance.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 08:35 (eighteen years ago)

blog house!!! define this! I think I know it instinctively.

― Groke, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:06 (eighteen years ago)

A good review on Pitchfork of the album.

― zeus, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:06 (eighteen years ago)

Wikipedia has deemed Blog House an inadequate term and deleted the article, but here's a cached definition.

Essentially it goes 'durr durr durr' and has some chopped up Daft Punk noises in it.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:08 (eighteen years ago)

Marvellous, thankyou.

― Groke, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:09 (eighteen years ago)

I like this album even more now after a few months. Great, great fun.

― Ben Boyerrr, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh fuck it:

"Blog House is a term denoting a type of electronic dance music that emerged after (or just before) Justice's Waters of Nazareth EP in 2006. A departure from the French House trend that preceded it, Waters of Nazareth featured a distinctive distorted bassline and powerful overdriven beats. Waters of Nazareth, as well as an extremely popular Justice remix of Never Be Alone by English electro-rock band Simian sparked an explosion of similarly-minded tracks, often circulated by taste-making MP3 blogs.

The term Blog House is a reference to House Music, and more specifically French House. The Ed Banger record label, based in Paris [1] is home to Justice and other like-minded artists that the Blog House tag was coined to describe. Because Blog House artists are so closely associated with Europe and especially France, Blog House would almost certainly be called French House, if the name wasn't already taken. As it is, the term Blog House is acknowledged by many to be at least faintly ridiculous [2] but use of the term persists. What people call Blog House is, without question, a distinctive and and legitimate musical genre, and although nobody really likes the name, nobody seems to be able to come up with a better one.

Sometimes delivered with a negative connotation, the term Blog House is often meant as a good-natured joke at the expense of the online fans that comprise the genre's most enthusiastic support system. Though there's a lot of buzz around the genre, it sometimes seems as if the excitement for Blog House is generated wholly by and sometimes regulated to the Internet. When Blog House's best known track, the Justice remix of Never Be Alone won Video of the Year honors at the 2006 MTV Europe Music Awards, American rapper Kanye West stormed the stage to complain that he'd never heard of it before. [4]

The sound of Blog House is heavily influenced by the French band Daft Punk. Comparisons to the duo appear often in professional reviews of the music, and Justice have been called "The Next Daft Punk" several times, most notably by Spin Magazine. [3] Like Daft Punk, Blog House is notable for it's Crossover Appeal with people who are not typically fans of Dance Music. Many Blog House songs feature Verses and Choruses, Guitar, and Vocals, making them more similar to Rock Music than more traditional House or Techno.

Tellingly, the artwork for the Waters of Nazareth single is made to look like album art for a Heavy Metal band. [5]

The best known purveyors of Blog House at present are Justice and their Ed Banger labelmates SebastiAn, Vicarious Bliss, Mr. Oizo, Uffie, Kavinsky, Busy P, Mr. Flash, and So Me.

Most Blog House artists are based in Europe, and release records on Institubes, Record makers, Arcade Mode and Kitsuné. In the UK, Blog House is finding a home on Namestay, Wall of Sound and on any label that has a Switch remix.

There is an American version of the sound beginning to emerge, including bands like Guns'N'Bombs, Acid Girls, 2 Young Americans, and The Glamour.

Bands from the English New Rave and American Dance-Punk scenes are sometimes lumped in with Blog House because of their rock leanings and dancefloor accessibility. Singles and remixes of songs by bands like Klaxons, New Young Pony Club, and The Teenagers are often considered to be "Blog House".

From the outset, Remixes have been a central tenet of the Blog House sound. Some of the genre's most popular remixers include Mr. Oizo, Feadz, Kissy Sell Out, Van She Tech,Herve, Passions, Surkin, and Yuksek.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:11 (eighteen years ago)

blog will eat itself

― Alan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:26 (eighteen years ago)

'and although nobody really likes the name, nobody seems to be able to come up with a better one. '

really? this has never happened before...

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'll stick with the Haircut Electro term - there's no proper House traits left in it.

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

Not really any electro traits left either these days.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

there's still the general syncopation and heavy electronic/fx sound.

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

and it feels wrong to involve the term Techno (as usual), but involving House seems even dafter (arf).

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:07 (eighteen years ago)

I've seen that thing posted so many times in various places and it is a serious load of bullshit. Is anyone even aware of this sort of music having a greater presence on blogs than any other sort? It's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

When i went to see DJ T/Booka Shade last week it was hosted by One Love, the big haircut house/electro night here. It was kinda painful. Everyone there really is afraid of the middle of their bodies, despite dressing like they're art phags. I got sick of all the mid-range pound.

(it even made me question my love of Booka Shade when they came on to the rapturous excitement of the crowd - like, if these people love this, how can i love this too? Not mature I know)

― Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:15 (eighteen years ago)

haha Tim I feel that way about Vitalic now. Booka Shade I can still stomach.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

Booka Shade themselves were good! Although the detail in their music (which is about 50% of the appeal) was lost in the club setting. And the two new songs were distressingly, er, haircut! What pissed me off is that no-one really danced, they just cheered at the mnemonic riffs and jumped up and down like they were at a rock concert. I was impressed though that everyone recognised stuff like "Played Runner" and "Night Falls" - I was expecting this crowd to like "Body Language", "In White Rooms", "Mandarine Girl" and nothing else.

DJ T came on afterwards and played hard-as-fuck house, like Michael Mayer at his most steroidal but less melodic and less, well, interesting. Seriously the only melody was Crowdpleaser & St Plomb's "18 Years". Maybe it was the sound of the club though. Raudive's "Slave To The Rhythm" sounded like it had no tune whatsoever.

It did kind of undercut your suspicion that DJ T is behind the choice of Dixon for Body Language 4 though.

― Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

Klaxons remixes >>>>>>>>>> Klaxons in almost every single instance.

-- Matt DC

People have said thay about the Happy Mondays and Primal Scream.

Haven't heard the album yet and all I've heard so far reminds me of the Inspiral's

-- Billy Dods (Billy Dods),

Yes, me too. They were always a bit of a puzzle, weren't they? In what sense were they aligned to indie dance, in what sense was their music dance music? Perhaps is a baggy revival with nothing added. I hope I'm wrong, I probably am. As someone said earlier, the Klaxons arrive in the midst of some really creative electronic dance music coming out right now, in various places and styles. Saying they're adding something to this wonderful outpouring of really creative electronic music is a huge and tendentious call. Maybe they'll rise to the occasion.

As a term, 'Blog House' is really not very inspiring. Compare it with 'hip hop', say, or 'rock 'n' roll', or 'funk', or 'electro' or 'thrash', or 'heavy metal'. These are dynamic, exciting, physical names for new styles. They are fun to say, and they roll in a rhythm off the tongue. 'Blog house' - that suggests, onomatopoeically, a humble place where one evacuates one's bowels. 'Just going off to the blog house, love, to hang a cable'. I am exaggerating a little for effect, perhaps, but this is a lumpen, intestinal phrase which was created by someone too heady, too geeky, and too cathected from his body to appreciate the power of the sound of a phrase. Unlike the KLF, say, who always understood such things. I don't know whether they really grasped that Manual. Edelweis was much more like it, as Billy pointed out later in his post.

― moley, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

The sound of Blog House is heavily influenced by the French band Daft Punk

THIS is why i don't like any of it!

except...i find myself bobbing along quite merrily to the new dj mehdi album...oh dear.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

That Van She version of "Around The World" on the latest Mixmag CD is appaling, the rest of it's no better, I was trolled by the cover and fancied a laugh...

― fandango, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

haha i have just got to a SCHAFFEL track on the dj mehdi!

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

They've spawned this many remixes because the album itself is so hideously produced that you have to go back to the stems to make it listenable.

I don't understand this at all! It seems very well produced to me and I love the *sound* of it.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

well it's clearly meant to sound the way it does because simian mobile disco can be, and usually are, very good producers. which is why i think even less of it, why on earth aim for that sound? it's all over the place. this is not a good thing!

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

awful, awful record

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

awesome, awesome record

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

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― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

yourpowersgrowweakoldman.gif

― Alan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

i'm just glad we have our own awful rock bands

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

i'm always a little concerned when i'm siding with the lex on anything, but eurgh

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

I am responsible for deleting Blog House. SUCK ME BEAUTIFUL

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Some of the people mentioned in that *excellent* Blog House write-up are long time ILMers! (Well, at least one).

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

The fact that ILM isn't talking about *any* of the dance music I'm into right now is worrying.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

omg uffie is marissa marchant

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

i knew it!!

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

LOL

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

spencer we are talking about it, this thread has c.500 answers!

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

spencer i'm probably the only person other than you on ilx who defends this shit!!

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

it's like me and you versus the country of england

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

guys, I like Curses!

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Ha! but does it need defending? It's what I hear out every night at different kinds of places.

Lex, I'm actually referring to a raft of hipster dance music that I've never even seen mentioned here (although I noted your "Lip Gloss" appreciation) because people are still going on and on about DFA and Kompakt.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

But maybe I'm just not looking hard enough??

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

"defending" is a slippery slope anyway. nickleback would need defending around here too, and tons of people "out there" loves them some kroeger.

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

but yes, this is what i hear almost every time i go out

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

Nickelback??? Where the hell are you going??

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

redneck bars, mostly

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

and chad kroeger's house

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I don't really hear original Klaxons tracks played out because it's not really dance music - it's *really* excellent rock music with the occasional dance texture. There is humor in bringing glow sticks to watch a rock band.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

Had to look up Chad Kroeger. Is he like nu-Xian-rave?

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

oh come on!!

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

that's up there with dk saying he didn't know who nelson was or basically any lex post '05-inclusive

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

I think this is the most disturbing google image result I've ever seen:
http://images.google.com/images?q=chad%20kroeger

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

WHERE IS DK NOW WHEN WE NEED HIM MOST???

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

i read in the paper today that a nickelback song was the "unofficial anthem" of...something to do with the shooting, anyway.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

i am blog house :/

― cutty, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

you're often my first thought when blog house comes up, yes

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

then again, you're often my first thought

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

i am totally blog house

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

I get more info about dance music from fluokids than ILM, and I can't read French!

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

i'm not sure if this stuff requires all that much disquisition

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

big beat '07

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

But with less bad rapping (note: Uffie is my favorite rapper).

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

my roommate is a blog house producer. also we talk about body glitter

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

big beat X filter house -/- indie rock + p-fork level of engagement with hip-hop = blog house

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm, I disagree about the pitchfork level of engagement with hip-hop. Well, maybe the same level, but definitely a different appreciation (which is more at exoticized, nihilistic *track* appreciation - which is how I have always enjoyed it as well).

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

i mean more along the lines of picking up/using/exploiting the signifiers and the sonic tropes and the fashion

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

i'm thinking of a teki from ttc quote where he said something like "the future of hip-hop is total abstraction," i.e. just taking juelz santana's vocal hook or the way some dude wears his hat

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Lex, I'm actually referring to a raft of hipster dance music that I've never even seen mentioned here (although I noted your "Lip Gloss" appreciation) because people are still going on and on about DFA and Kompakt.

otm

― never acid again, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

(matthew perpetua is "blog shithouse", amirite?)

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

ban fake dom passantino

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluxblog

^ omg

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

Well, at least we'll know which houses to search if he goes missing.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

if this was 'big beat 07' then i would like it more.

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

i means the klaxons and all these other dynamic nu-indie (as opposed to nu-rave) bands there, not Haircut Electro - which i do like some of/some things about.

― blueski, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

the klaxons sound nothing like Kavinsky or DJ Mehdi. Mr. Oizo sounds nothing like Daft Punk. Uffie sounds nothing like Vicarious Bliss, etc. How is it that these artists are all put together under one gigantor umbrella?

― Spinspin Sugah, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

how does nu rave relate to experimental horse

― JW, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

nu rave is a myth that relates to nothing, especially not something as majestic as experimental horses.

― Spinspin Sugah, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

"Lex, I'm actually referring to a raft of hipster dance music that I've never even seen mentioned here (although I noted your "Lip Gloss" appreciation) because people are still going on and on about DFA and Kompakt."

Spencer can you provide specific examples here?

― Tim F, Thursday, 19 April 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

There are a bunch of hardish house tracks that are incorporating old rave sounds at the moment. Mix that with bmore stuff, pop southern rap, random remixes from the low-bee boards of Yelle etc, and whatever they're talking about on fluokids and palmsout and there you go. Basically, what I'm hearing out in LA, and what I know is also being played in at least Paris and NY, is not being discussed on ILM because of?? Corny indie attitude? Hatred of fun? Nu-Rockism? I don't know. Actually maybe I do. Before I even saw them discussed, I knew that ILM would generally hate on Uffie and Klaxons (for different reasons).

Also, I think it's high time that the Human After All thread be revived to discuss it as divine prophecy!

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 19 April 2007 00:36 (eighteen years ago)

The "hatred of fun" meme has got to stop.

― jim, Thursday, 19 April 2007 00:48 (eighteen years ago)

spencer, do you basically mean acid girls-type stuff?

― haitch, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

possibly pertinent to this discussion - suck my deck: simian mobile disco

― haitch, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

Let's get one thing straight the Klaxons are not fun, good or rave.

― JW, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

that's three things but it wouldn't be the first time someone wasn't entirely accurate when talking about this steaming heap

― JW, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:37 (eighteen years ago)

"i am blog house :/

-- cutty, Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:17 PM (7 hours ago)
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you're often my first thought when blog house comes up, yes

-- strongohulkington, Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:17 PM (7 hours ago)
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then again, you're often my first thought

-- strongohulkington, Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:17 PM (7 hours ago)"

this is just so sweet i had to mention it. :)

i like 'as above so below' a lot.

― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

this is a lumpen, intestinal phrase which was created by someone too heady, too geeky, and too cathected from his body to appreciate the power of the sound of a phrase

what the fuck are you on about

besides, the name is a joke

― John Splith, Thursday, 19 April 2007 07:44 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I think it's high time that the Human After All thread be revived to discuss it as divine prophecy!

yeah i know, right, all of this stuff is totally following in HAA's footsteps. but the thing is, HAA was pretty shit as i seem to remember everyone agreeing at the time!

― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 April 2007 07:58 (eighteen years ago)

"There are a bunch of hardish house tracks that are incorporating old rave sounds at the moment."

Be more specific! There are so many things this could apply to.

― Tim F, Thursday, 19 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

the entire simian mobile disco album sounds like it was made by people who'd only *read* about new rave and gone and applied what they thought that meant to dance-pop-songs-in-a-10-track-album-format style.
it's the first peoper actual "new rave" (or whatever) dance album that works hard to please both the old and the new skool.
10 trax, all songs less than 5 minutes long, most under 4 minutes, the whole album could fit on one side of a 45 minute tape and its stuffed full of all the kind of noises that made you love electro, house, rave and dance since yer were born.

IT'S THE *BEAT*!!

― pisces, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

sounds great.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i quite like the SMD album but omg the drum sounds they use are so cheap, i think they're stopping me from loving it as opposed to just quite liking it

― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

I'm fond of the "Pump Up The Jam" synths in "It's The Beat". At first I was like "oh no not another crappy old skool female MC" but then I realised the rapper was a homage to Ya Kid K and all was forgiven.

― Tim F, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

drum sounds on 99% of the current hip-hop i hear are cheap as shit.

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

i know what's good for the goose is not always good for the gander, but STILL.

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

tim did you ever hear the trentemoller rmx of sharon phillips' 'want 2 need 2'. so good, so so good.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

yes

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

i mean yes that was good. i didn't hear it until i bought that Chris Lake Electro Boutique comp.

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

― Telephone thing, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah that remix was great!

Did you like that Chris Lake comp steve? It looked irredeemably haircut to me. But I liked Lake's remix of Dannii's cover of "He's The Greatest Dancer".

― Tim F, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

I think Simian Mobile Disco are pretty mediocre producers even on their own material, but I suppose production isn't really the point there.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

it's not?

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

"the drum sounds they use are so cheap"

aka the prob with grime, and much modern hip hop

― titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

why are they/what makes them sound cheap in SMD's case?

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

I think "Hustler" sounds like US $10B.

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

its not like the producers of the ARCTIC MONKETS cant afford the best. cheapness is neither here nor there - kurt cobain's IN UTERO guitar cost $50.

― pisces, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

thinking of some of my favourite minimal house producers, who make beats which are texturally a gazillion times better than SMD and which i would certainly not call cheap-sounding...but i bet SMD's budget is a lot more than, say, estroe's or dominik eulberg's! though haha both of those have day jobs (nurse and park ranger respectively, they are SO COOL)

― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

but i bet SMD's budget is a lot more than, say, estroe's or dominik eulberg's

don't know about that. it's not a case of budget surely. where are these people getting their bassdrum, hat and snare (or equivalent) sounds from? TR-simulating soft synths? a clipped recording of the autumn leaves rustling across the patio? perhaps some combination of the two?

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

I like minimal house too, and I appreciate extreme precision in recording and mastering etc, but Simian Mobile Disco stuff sounds the way it does for a reason. Remember, the kids are dancing to square synth sounds, encoded as low bitrate mp3s, edited on ableton and then played through serato. It's an aesthetic, but instead of being based on a retro embrace of past technology (garage rock, electroclash), it's a nod to the convenience and immediacy/availability of the new lo-fi (which happily still aims to sound big - just maybe tinny, watery and big).

Also with current software everything can be made to sound pristine, budget doesn't really figure into it (unless you're using a microphone - most beats are purely sampled and/or synthsized).

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

where's the resonance maaaan?

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

yeah well i've never really got lo-fi in dance music, it confuses me somewhat - because dance music is functional as well as experimental, so the cleaner/more pristine beats of a gabriel ananda track aren't just there to be admired, they have the physical effect of...uplift, they make it more fun to dance. SMD goes bang bang bang , pound pound pound and that's ok, but it remains...down all the time, earthed, no movement.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

i don't see why the drum sounds themselves would be more fun to dance to as such or have some greater uplifting effect. this is all determined by the wider structure of the track surely.

but then i have a background of loving dance music with very heavy beats.

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

there's definitely a compression issue tho.

― blueski, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

yeah well i've never really got lo-fi in dance music, it ~~confuses me somewhat~~ indieindieindie *bleep* krffzzzz...

― fandango, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

The "hatred of fun" meme has got to stop.

I mentioned it as a joke.

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

Be more specific! There are so many things this could apply to.

Tim, check out this mix on Discobelle - especially the Larry Tee and Miss Odd Kid remixes. I'm sure you'll appreciate the inclusion Simple Minds' "I Travel"!!!

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

inclusion "of"

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

That Herve (Speakerjunk) remix of Larry Tee feat Princess Superstar in particular - rave synth stab and air horns over a bmore beat with cut up "bad" female rapping.

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

Dear ILM, I just saw them and this is the best rock band around right now.

― Spencer Chow, Sunday, 22 April 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

funny that switch/sinden/jesse rose/dubsided et al is becoming huge amongst the hardcore east london indie fashion set. all the diplo stans have stopped doing bad baille funk mixes of "satisfaction" and our now making bad house remixes of "in the air tonight"

― creme1, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

"the hardcore east london indie fashion set"

WHERE CAN I JOIN PLZ O PLZ

― That one guy that quit, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

HARDCORE EAST LONDON

― That one guy that quit, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

^^you know hes talking about hot girls, right?

― 600, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://orders.mkn.co.uk/mime/footballshirt/hats/swesthamicf.jpg

― That one guy that quit, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.photosleeve.com/d/110030-2/Cass+Pennant.jpg

A Jesse Rose fanboy, yesterday

― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

no i'm talking about guys like this http://www.myspace.com/jamie_eseveneen

― creme1, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

i dunno if you ever go out except to some kate the saint gig or something you'd know what i mean

― creme1, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

lawl

― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

oh, no hot girls?

looks like i was right to stay in the garden with steely dan and shinedoe on the stereo then

― 600, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

that is a truly horrible myspace page.

― That one guy that quit, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

actually i went to this dazed & confused showcase thing and at the end the dj was playing like a mix of big distorted bassline indie dance stuff and dubsided stuff alongside like reggaeton and dancehall and old breaks-y rave stuff, it was pretty good and kinda made sense. i can't remember who the djs were. and there were quite a few girls if that's what you're after.

― creme1, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

lol im gay, but i like some of that music

― 600, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

actually i think the only song that featured a guitar was that jim hendrix thing on dubsided

― creme1, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

actually i sound the lex

― creme1, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

dazed and confused

― That one guy that quit, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

jim hendrix

― creme1, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

ha i was gonna go to that dazed & confused thing but bailed, my friends were there!

― lex pretend, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9961/getrudewar1lj1.gif

― creme1, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

GHETTOTRONICA

― creme1, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

I see Kill Whitey has crossed the Atlantic.

― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

he he

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

zomg

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

hmm maybe i should go.

― blueski, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

the luftwaffe was right

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

"The absolute best (or worst as the case may be) thing to come out of all this is the Hadouken remix of "Atlantis to Interzone" which can be found near the bottom of this post on Good Weather for Airstrikes

-- Spencer Chow (spencermfi), "

OMG I am loving this!

― Alan, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)

i played it 4 times in a row this morning. truly i am without hope.

― Alan, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Love this album. I play it over and over, and haven't done that with a UK rock album is a long, long time.

― paulhw, Thursday, 24 May 2007 22:35 (eighteen years ago)

channel 4 seem to be using klaxons remixes as a 'bed' under every trailer

― Alan, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

c4's use of klaxons for everything is starting to make me dislike this. although golden skans sounds as good as it did when i first heard it. this album is great.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

oh and they OWN teenagers in soaps at the mo

― Alan, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

obv this is because THERE'S A NEW MUSIC TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY

― Alan, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

they were just on J Ross doing 'Not Over Yet' and it was horrendous.

― blueski, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

They were actually *really* good live when I saw them last month.

― Spencer Chow, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

'they were just on J Ross doing 'Not Over Yet' and it was horrendous.'

yep, nothing worked and they looked awful. big mistake.

― Geordie Racer, Saturday, 2 June 2007 06:14 (eighteen years ago)

H&M are selling t-shirts with FGTH/rave style slogans saying "IT'S NOT OVER NOT OVER NOT OVER YEAH"
Is that a Klaxons thing? Is it wrong?

― Not the real Village People, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:59 (eighteen years ago)

C'mon guys, this is such a boring album. Hello, Rapture circa 2001 anyone? and the TB-303-rich remixes don't count, either. How does this type of music surprise anyone anymore? zZzZzZzcity, baby.

― uhrrrrrrr10, Sunday, 3 June 2007 01:03 (eighteen years ago)

I like their drummer and the singles are nice, but I've seen them perform on TV and thought they're just a bit weak really. Put them next to the Arctic Monkeys and see: one's a proper band, the other's just an idea of a band.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 3 June 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

H&M are selling t-shirts with FGTH/rave style slogans saying "IT'S NOT OVER NOT OVER NOT OVER YEAH"
Is that a Klaxons thing? Is it wrong?

-- Not the real Village People, Saturday, June 2, 2007 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

my sister thinks so and she's the right side of 25. it's definitely wrong.

― That one guy that quit, Sunday, 3 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

there could be trouble ahead.

― mark e, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

the Klaxons might still be more interesting than the Arctic Monkeys

― blueski, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

their vocals were terrible when i saw them live on ch4 doing not over yet (i like the album version though).

― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

why is this rubbish still being discussed?

― electricsound, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

Mr. Mark E. Is that Guardian link serious, it reads like a piss take!
We have identified the ring leaders, "Disco meets punk", hilarious.
Watch for flyers in West Country pubs...
Free tablets of Ecstasy with every real ale.

― Debord, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:18 (eighteen years ago)

Must be on for the nineties revival then lucy porter giggle criminal justice bill chesney hawkes tfi friday byker grove upside down shane richie experience eh eh

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

<i>For the most part, though, the album is a mess of clumsy beats that never settle into a groove, lurching shout-along chants more suited to the football stadium than the dancefloor and unpleasant-sounding, overdriven bass. The songs descend the same chords repeatedly and ponderously, as if the band were falling down the same flight of stairs over and over again. Most unforgivably, there's the appalling production, with its curious emphasis on nasty, screaming treble.</i>

OTM, Alex Macpherson.

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

(Sigh)

― Ben Boyerrr, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

she was robbed.

― pisces, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of like this, mostly for all the reasons the macpherson mentions

― mh, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

I agree with Alex on some things, but he really shouldn't have been assigned this review - many of his criticisms are either completely off the mark or are appealing to other listeners (such as myself). It's like those old reviews that criticize disco or house for it's incessant 4/4 beat or something. This is still easily one of the albums of the year.

― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

This is still easily one of the albums of the year.

Mercury Prize 2007

― fandango, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

It was easily the best album nominated for the Mercury, but that says more about Lauren Laverne's cloth-earedness than anything else.

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

― fandango, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Apparently their record company has told them to fuck off with their "dense psychedelic" record and come back with some pop songs.

I have a feeling that dense psychedelia is not the main problem here.

― Hreidarsson The Storm (Matt DC), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

Worst Mercury winner ever?

― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

i don't really like them, but no

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

I think even the Klaxons may have trouble competing with the mighty double-whammy that was Gomez and Talvin Singh.

― Hreidarsson The Storm (Matt DC), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:09 (sixteen years ago)

I'd say that Gomez album was better than this. The Talvin Singh album is... very fucking boring, granted, but... at least it's not offensive.

― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

And Badly Drawn Boy the year after too.

― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

this album sounds even better removed from the hype of nu-rave surrounding its release. would love to hear a psych record from them.

― cutty, Friday, 13 March 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

their album was a little patchier than i'd hoped but the singles are out-and-out classics, and there are some good album trax

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not a huge fan but that Gomez album weren't bad. Sorry to lapse like this but it's true. Also, boooo to Klaxons' record company; let the kids dream! I don't like their music but I'll defend their right to be a little more ambitious to the death. Even if the end results are grisly inna Kasabian stylee

Besides, after Late Of The Pier so comprehensively shit all over them I'm feeling a little sorry for Klaxons

― This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

The Glastonbury set I saw from them (one of two they played that weekend) served as a cautionary tale about not hyping potentially talented bands way above their station from the very first release. They were visibly floundering on a stage they'd been brought to too early.

I have a feeling they'll be consigned to the dustbin of "lol what were we all thinking" around the time they get round to actually making a good record.

― Hreidarsson The Storm (Matt DC), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:28 (sixteen years ago)

(Actually that was a bit of an across-the-board problem with that festival, weather aside. Lol the Killers headlining with their mediocre second album).

― Hreidarsson The Storm (Matt DC), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:29 (sixteen years ago)

And this apparently, is what they said:

But executives at Polydor Records were less than impressed with the tracks' mind-bending sound - and have refused to release the disc until the group reworks the songs.

Frontman Jamie Reynolds says, "We've been asked to re-record part of the album because we've made a dense, psychedelic record.

"We've made a really heavy record and it isn't the right thing for us - I understand and know that.

"First and foremost, we're a pop band. I haven't thought about that for a long time, and now it's in the forefront of my mind.

I really don't know how to react to that.

― sonofstan, Friday, 13 March 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

he sounds like a fella whose balls are in a vice

― This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 51 for "fuck you, polydor". (0.58 seconds)

― This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

OH NOES THE POOR LAMBS

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Friday, 13 March 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe the label told them to get someone really bankable like MIA or Tinchy Stryder on a track?

― Hreidarsson The Storm (Matt DC), Friday, 13 March 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

Do y'all reckon that in -0h, ten years time - ILX will be all a twitter at the imminent release of the great lost Klaxons 'psychedelic' album? is this a long term viral marketing scam?

― sonofstan, Friday, 13 March 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

"Lost psychedelic album"? Who do they think they are, Blur? Fuck off and go away already.

― I made you a Justice bass sound, but I EATED it (Masonic Boom), Friday, 13 March 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

*praying for leak of lost psych mp3s*

― paulhw, Friday, 13 March 2009 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

if they have any bottle they'll release their intended version anyway

― This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

if they have any bottle

See above.

― sonofstan, Friday, 13 March 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Did we talk about this already?

Klaxons Sound Off on New Album: 'The Most Violent British Record to Date'

― Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

This is going to be so, so shit.

― Maraca Son Sistema (Matt DC), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, the signs aren't good.

― Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

"What impressed us the most about Ross was that during our initial interview, he didn't once talk about music for the entire hour, it was all about our discovering our unique energy and essence."

Fucking hell, if I had a pound for every time I've read some shite like this about Ross Robinson I'd be posting this from the Virgin Islands

― Markelby's Greasy Spoon (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

klaxons are alright imo

this will be terrible but it may produce good content in a post-bloghouse dysphoria 'what is to be done' kinda way

― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

i bet it's not going to be as violent as me SHOOTING THEM IN THE FACE FOR HAVING THE TEMERITY TO MAKE A SECOND ALBUM

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

shooting them in the face with the same gun over and over again

― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

I don't exactly know what's wrong with me, but I liked their first album when it came out and still like it.

This new one may turn out to be a disaster, who knows, I may still check it out just in case.

― Moodles, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)

i liked it also

well a good portion of it

tho them working with the producer behind fucking KORN sounds a bit weird

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

it will be retarded if ends up as shit like "magick" instead of "golden skans" which is totally sublime

― funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

this will sound like 'battleflag' off the lo-fi allstars' first record, except shit

― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Of course, the first album was quite good, nevermind The Lex. This second seems a bit risky, but - as Harry Redknapp said - we'll have to wait and see.

― zeus, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

It'll sound like the sort of squally noisy amaterish rock record that indie bands always pretend they want to make, but are actually made to cover up the fact that the great pop tune they once released was a complete fluke.

― Maraca Son Sistema (Matt DC), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

likely otm

― funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

On 25th May 2010, the band's new single "Flashover" was premiered on Zane Lowe's BBC Radio One show. The song was then made available to listen on the band's website: http://www.klaxons.net/ The album is set for a release in the autumn and has a provisional title of Surfing The Void.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF55bRCVqJE

― Bee OK, Thursday, 27 May 2010 04:50 (fifteen years ago)

I had completely forgotten these guys existed.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 May 2010 04:51 (fifteen years ago)

otm

― lemon lime & butters (electricsound), Thursday, 27 May 2010 04:52 (fifteen years ago)

more nu-rave less punk plz

― J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 May 2010 04:53 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

http://www.addictmusic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Surfing_The_Void_sans_sticker_WEB-300x300.jpg

Surfing the Void is the second studio album by British rock band Klaxons, set to be released on 23 August 2010 through Polydor Records. The album was produced by Ross Robinson, and was recorded in Los Angeles, California.

1. "Echoes" 3:48
2. "The Same Space" 3:12
3. "Surfing the Void" 2:37
4. "Valley of the Calm Trees" 3:17
5. "Venusia" 4:08
6. "Extra Astronomical" 3:17
7. "Twin Flames" 4:11
8. "Flashover" 5:16
9. "Future Memories" 3:43
10. "Cypherspeed" 5:08

― Bee OK, Friday, 20 August 2010 02:55 (fifteen years ago)

I like what I've heard so far and LOVE the cover.

― Spencer Chow, Friday, 20 August 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

Wot no Lex review yet?

― Bob Six, Sunday, 29 August 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

three years pass...

hey guys remember the klaxons?
http://www.dummymag.com/new-music/klaxons-atom-to-atom

― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:16 (eleven years ago)

sounds kinda like cut copy tbh

― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:18 (eleven years ago)

more details here: http://www.nme.com/news/klaxons/76597

can't say i'm particularly enthusiastic about hearing it. taken years to make with a bunch of different producers, it all sounds like desperate reinvention after the second record flopped

― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:44 (eleven years ago)

Setting their sights high with a big comeback gig too:

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Mercury-prize-winning-Klaxons-set-gig-2-Pigs/story-20928747-detail/story.html

― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:47 (eleven years ago)

I saw the bass player from the Klaxons in a Vietnamese restaurant in Dalston a few years ago. I refrained from rushing over to get his autograph. Heady days though!

― Angkor Waht (Neil S), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:49 (eleven years ago)

awright!

― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:54 (eleven years ago)

good grief this new record is dogshit

― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:55 (eleven years ago)

I think I'm one of very few people who really like their second album. The more straight up prog rock vibe definitely hit a sweet spot for me. On the new tracks they appear to have dropped the rock side completely and are going for a full on dance vibe with predictably dire results.

― nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 15:15 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

new shitty song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oxZNTvQwCA#t=70

― nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Thursday, 8 May 2014 18:41 (eleven years ago)

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