seefeel thread for discussion of relevant informations pertaining to the "quique redux" 2cd superbonus reissue (and other seefeel matters)

it's a nice enough addition.

So, i just picked up all the Seefeel albums...

_Quique
_Succour
_Ch-Vox

...the other day, as well as the EP collection...

_Polyfusia

...and am wondering, what's the best place to start listening to these albums? Should I go chronologically, or in some other order, and why? Also, what are the highlights of each disc, or what should I be on the lookout (listenout?) for with each one? Any other thoughts on Seefeel in general, or these albums?

Thanks, ILM.

The three Polyfusia releases are cheap on bleep currently - new disjecta ep, autechre remix of spangle and Clifford's new album with Kealoha(?)

http://www.bleep.com/?label=Polyfusia

stephen, choronologically, because they get weirder (and, to me, more interesting). the Ch-Vox is a lot like the Disjecta things on warp rather than Seefeely. Fracture / Tied and Starethrough EPs also essential i think.

Fracture / Tied and Starethrough EPs also essential i think.
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hey thanks!

(by which i assume you mean, those two EPs have some pretty nice exclusives, yes?)

yes, and are also some of the best things they've done. plus i like the cover of fracture / tied - designers republic, nice heavy orange card, silver ink, slight embossing...

also worth a listen:
isan remix of when face was face
http://www.cocteautwins.com/html/discography/discog_23.html (cocteaus remixed by clifford)
2x disjecta mini lps on warp

oh wow! i have that Cocteaus EP, think it's pleasant enough for late Cocteaus material but i haven't given it more than a couple spins really. i had no idea some guy from Seefeel was involved either. i'll have to pull that out tomorrow, then...

thanks!

anyone else?

Listen to them chronologically as there is definitely a development of their sound and it can be divided into two halves: Too Pure releases and post-Too Pure releases. While the first ep (More Like Space) doesn't sound like a rock band, except for the last track, you can get a sense of rock composition from the songs. This gets thrown out the window on Plainsong when they start adding more and more layers and definitely go for a machine vibe. Quique has moments when it sounds like a rock band, but most of all it's the pinnacle of layering and density in the early sound. Imperial is one of my favorite pieces of music ever.

When they switched to Warp (you really should get Starethrough because it's fucking incredible), they started to strip back the elements so that by the time you get to Ch-Vox, it's so sparse, it's almost like listening to sonar blips. There are some fine moments on these records, but I admit I prefer the earlier ones more. Also, if you can locate it, their contributions to the Ancient Lights and the Black Core compilation on Sub Rosa are some of the highlights of their later work.

What Bill said.

Bill, thanks, that's a fantastic summary. I'm really looking forward to these now, more so than before. I checked the 4 songs on Starethrough, doesn't look like there's any overlap with their full-lengths (or maybe 1 track, i forget). watching a copy of that on eBay right now ;-) so i'll try to snag it for a few bucks.

> Also, if you can locate it, their contributions to the Ancient Lights and the Black Core compilation on Sub Rosa are some of the highlights of their later work.

lots very cheap listed on amazon.com. if only i knew a tame american who could pick up a copy for me...

Nope, Starethrough is all non-album material. I remember buying it when it came out and wondering if it was the same band that put out Quique--it's that different from its predecessor.

Also, I highly recommend Mark Clifford's collaboration with Simon Kealoha on Clifford's Polyfusia label. Running Taper is the name. It's much more of a software-processed affair than his other work and sorta reclaims the space between Seefeel and Fennesz.

Otherwise, I think the other side projects are less than the sum of the whole band. There are a few Scala tracks that I like, but they never really did much for me. The first Disjecta album is good (because Looking for Snags sounds exactly like Dubstep circa 1995), but after that until the collaboration mentioned above, I unfortunately found Clifford's stuff hit-or-miss to completely uninteresting. If you can find it, Mark Van Hoen (their engineer aka Locust) put out a really good album in the late 90s called Playing with Time.

I bought the original last week, as it was available used. I used to be a bit ambivalent about Seefeel, but damn, this album is amazing.

http://www.bleep.com/?bleep=FUS005

new release on polyfusia. 4 track ep.

01 - Blue-Fi1 (3:32) - Mark Clifford
02 - Blue-Fi2 (2:58) - Mark Clifford
03 - Prychynna (4:31) - Zaudloka
04 - Rankova (Midnight Edit) (6:49) - Zaudloka

Listening to Polyfusia right now. Completely forgot how stunningly gorgeous this record is.

ah yes, stunning record. i think i'll join you in a spin.

It makes me sad that this band isn't as widely revered as, say, The Orb. They really deserve much more praise than they get.

You'd think there would have been primed for some serious critical re-appraisal about 5 years ago or so, when all those MBV-meets-laptronica bands like (early)M83, Ulrich Schnauss & all the Morr acts started popping up all over the place. That shit has Seefeel's fingerprints all over it.

Haha, I was about to post here saying what Pillbox just said. I finally snagged this reissue over the weekend and hearing it now in 2009 in such a context is breathtaking. But what's interesting is that while it does predate those styles and predicts them, Quique very much is its own sound, and there's things going on almost track for track (like the astonishing bassline on "Industrious") that few of the modern bunch are either able or willing to try.

I listened to this on Spotify and thoroughly enjoyed it. I think I'll listen to it again now.

Still prefer Ulrich Schnauss, mind. :p

This album came out right around the time I started buying CDs (instead of tapes, ya I M old) and somehow I never got around to buying it on CD or on vinyl, even though I had virtually everything else in Seefeel's catalogue on one of those formats. So basically, since all of my tapes are stashed away somewhere now, I hadn't listened to "Quique" in ages before I bought the reissue. And yeah, it was astonishing to hear it again. It sounds so fresh, novel, and unpredictable these days, which is weird because at the time a lot of people dismissed them as MBV/Cocteau Twins rip-off fetishists!

Yeah this is a 10/10 star totally great album, unfuckwithable. I dug out the reissue last week also and listened to it and was of course blown away.

Does anyone rate the stuff that comes after Quique? I like Polyfusia well enough but haven't given much time to Ch-Vox or that other record of theirs that came later...

The Starethrough EP is pretty great!

anything with "starethrough" on it is necessarily gonna be great, but which one? the warp cd one or the white label?

aren't they the same?

Still prefer Ulrich Schnauss, mind. :p
Craziest talk on ILX yet!

Succor remains my favorite Seefeel by a mile.... they've lost some of the shoegazing qualities, in favor of a more ambient/dub/isolationist character. One of the best things Rephlex ever released; still can't understand why this hasn't gotten a reissue.

http://www.discogs.com/Seefeel-Succour/release/3617

there's things going on almost track for track (like the astonishing bassline on "Industrious") that few of the modern bunch are either able or willing to try

Mebbe cuz the Seefeel guys were at one point rockers? Whereas I could never truly accept M83 as a rock act. Most of Seefeel's distinctiveness, to me, from a 2009 standpoint comes from the feeling that the boundaries between electronic music and rock are still porous.

Seefeel fans, set those turntables to stun! Hot off the heels of Too Pure’s revamped reissuance of the late, lamented London quartet’s 1993 opus Quique, we are beyond thrilled to announce that we’ll bringing this outstanding release to your hi-fi as a 4-platter vinyl set early next year. This fabtabulous offering will be limited to 500 copies (100 of them blue) and brought to you in beautiful gatefold packaging. Nearly 15 years after its debut, this daring exercise in ambient glory sounds every bit as ambitious as it did then, so don’t miss this rare opportunity to rediscover this long out-of-print masterwork in fantastic wax.

That was late 2007 on a clairecords newsletter, guess it never happened.

i thought this was pronounced KEE-KAY, like the diminutive of Enrique. Thank you strongo hulkington (RIP) for educating me so i don't make a faux-pas in a hypothetical future Seafeel conversation that I may have.

I prefer the Moby Dick pronunciation of "kwee-kway" but whatever, it's gorgeous.

I was sure it was "Keek", at least that's what I remember.

I have been mentally pronouncing it as "kweekweh" but that is because I keep thinking it's a Latin word like "quisque" or "quoque" and it isn't. But as yet I've never had any call to talk about it out loud.

Whoops, Succour was on Warp (as the link I provided showed!). And MP3s are available on Bleep.com! Let the record show that I'm an idiot.

"Keek" is how reviewers were describing the pronunciation at the time...while we on the topic, how's Tricky's debut pronounced?...Max-In-Kway or Max-In-Key?...or neither?...or both?

had not actually encountered this record before finding it the other day; love the way everything just billows outwards around those basslines.

do you think they'll give the re-ish treatment to any of the other stuff? probably gets a bit complicated when it's spread over different labels.

The last School of Seven Bells EP has a remix by Seefeel ("Chain") - didn't seem to attract much attention?

I recently emailed Too Pure begging them to reissue all the other stuff. Still regard "Quique" as severely underrated

could listen to 'climactic phase #3' all day - like the long, slow-morph patterns that spiritualized were mining circa pure phase.

i was just listening to "succour" this morning, it's weird how their whole career was like their music decaying into its most basic elements. and then on ch-vox they lost EVERYTHING but the guitar.

could listen to 'climactic phase #3' all day - like the long, slow-morph patterns that spiritualized were mining circa pure phase.

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So funny you say that; I've been really into Pure Phase recently and the two share a very distinct connection

definitely my fave spiritualized record. as much as i like the next couple of records, i kinda wish j spaceman had pushed the pure phase envelope a bit further!

New EP coming out on the 21st. "Faults." On Warp. Excited!

http://media.warp.net/images/WARPCD205Packshot_480.jpg

Out 7th February 11
Vinyl, Download & CD
WARP207

Digital Tracklisting

01 - O-on one
02 - Dead Guitars
03 - Step Up
04 - Faults
05 - Gzaug
06 - Rip-run
07 - Making
08 - Step Down
09 - Airless

link

Hmm. Didn't expect that as a cover.

I saw them the other night - my second time since they came back. As support for the NEU - Rother / Shelley thing they were pretty fantastic. As a headline last month at the ICA - meh, not so much.

At the Barbican the other night they were great and I don't think they played many (any?) of the older tracks. The Japanese bass and drums really took over I felt. For the best - loved it. Looking forward to new releases,

Anyone heard the Faults EP? Any good?

Hoooooly shit I'm kicking myself for not having heard it yet. I'm two tracks in right now and it's VERY good; this will probably be in my year-end top 10.

Oh, they definitely played older material at the Barbican. I'm never good with track names but at the very least they did Time To Find Me.

And yeah, that show made me want to hear the new album now.

woah I had no idea these dudes reformed! also: cool EP cover

PS thank you ILM for getting me to buy the quique reissue when it first came out, that was a good choice

ah fuck I used my new display name to post in the thread that inspired it, PARTY FOUL

faults is very good, yes. can't decide whether track 4 (which is a lot emptier) is the best or worst thing on it though.

ooh, new gig date, 31st jan. king's place too.

btw, the warp link above says you can get free copy of Faults ep for signing up to their seefeel info list.

I am not liking Faults so far. I want to, but it just sounds kinda cheesy and bad and not very Seefeel to me.

Just checked the Warp link - you get the song, not the whole EP, if you sign up.

ah, ok, just the track for signing up. down a bit it says:

"Preorder at Bleep now to receive the new Faults EP for free instantly
(offer expires 17 December 2010)"

I see Succour is available from Bleep on CD again... the original release somehow got lost in the shuffle, but it's a really good album!

Succour was too sparse and not textured enough IMO. The best part of Quique was that it feels so dense; you could get lost in it.

Yeah but the sparseness is what makes CH-VOX so great. It's a giant spaceship encased in ice.

Seefeel's original trajectory was kind of like watchin the terminator go from a fleshy bulked up Austrian dude to a metal skeleton.

^^^^this makes me want to dig out the entire Seefeel back catalogue and listen to it in slow motion.

loads of scrapes and whirrs.

sounds good.

are playing london on monday. am tempted.

(description sounds good, that is. not actually heard it, is on pre-order. ep was promising)

their new self titled album is pretty good. 'dead guitars' has that lovely bent note / chord change thing happening.

Is it officially out?

monday in the uk. amazon says mine's in the post...

mine arrived, am listening now. sounds like synthesizers were harmed during the making of this album.

went to warp website to check title and tracknames and it's listed as out on the 7th, which is a week later than previously advertised.

"The addition of **DJ Scotch egg** and former Boredoms drummer E-da... immediately align the new-look Seefeel with the aggressive ambience of Oneohtrix Point Never and Emeralds" - Uncut Magazine

!!!!!

lovely lp, if you like dark fuzzy things.

reminds me, somehow, of burial.

Ooh, I'll be ordering this. I've been playing Succour a ton lately.

New vinyl issue of Quique (with essay by Dave Segal) via http://medical-records.org/.

Want

http://blog.lightintheattic.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/gatefoldblue.jpg

^purchased! Found on ebay for $21.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEEFEEL-QUIQUE-2LP-REISSUE-Shoegaze-MBV-Aphex-Twin-Locust-slowdive-/181214246153?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2a3135f509

A ton of these sold of the exact same listing... always makes me nervous but I have to assume it's legit. Waiting for it in the mail now.

These are in every record shop in Seattle. Bought my copy at Everyday Music on Saturday and got the blue vinyl which is supposedly random and limited to 1000 copies.

New Seefeel track (for charity):

http://audioscope.bandcamp.com/

http://boomkat.com/downloads/1128048-zurich-zurich

(that's perhaps more neil halsted news but hey...

i have that one track, a harsh truth, on a leaf records ep from 1995)

UNRELEASED MU-ZIQ REMIX OF "CLIMACTIC PHASE 3" WHAT?!?!

https://soundcloud.com/mikep/seefeel-climactic-phase-3-ziq-remix

pretty sweet

y'know, I'm ordinarily not really one for post-rock but I bought the Modern Classics Recordings reissue of Seefeel in a fit of LITA brand loyalty but never bothered to play it until just recently. turns out I love it to death; it feels like it'll slot in perfectly alongside PiL and Harmonia and Kevin Bobby Dunn and other stuff like that. it's a really beautiful pressing too - gorgeous blue vinyl, thick card stock sleeve, nice dust jackets; buy it if you have any interest in this album and ever encounter it while out in the wild.

I was tempted to do so thread necromancy a few weeks ago, but thanks to jamescobo, may I just say:

Anyone who loves 90s Seefeel needs to hear the Eaux album Plastics, from 2014. Spotify.

Yes! I love that Eaux album, still kind of mystified that so few people seemed to notice it.

I was a big fan of the Sian Alice Group, but never really seemed to connect with them when they reconstituted as Eaux. Should listen again...

I really like the Disjecta (sp) album, kind of like the seefeel dude working a wheezy ICBYD-era Aphex vibe

there were two or three (?) disjecta albums iirc

seefeel makes me sick, like leftover salad.

hmm i mean this one, anyway: http://www.discogs.com/Disjecta-Clean-Pit-And-Lid-Promo/master/2452

yeah i love that one

i was thinking of "looking for snags" EP as an album i guess

that one has "kracht", massive beat

the cd ep was originally (simultaneously?) two 12" eps. and has 8 long tracks so you could count it as a compilation lp.

there was a later, self-released disjecta ep on polyfusion, same label as put out the autechre remix of spangle. and almost nothing else: http://www.discogs.com/label/14963-Polyfusia-Records

actually, those two mark clifford eps, #003 and #005 are great. and that second was my first exposure to zavoloka who is worth investigating (ukrainian analogue glitch). (004 was advertised, iirc, as a mira calix release. don't think it ever appeared)

there were a couple of other disjecta tracks on compilations that i have. invisible soundtracks #1, er, others. (oh, discogs says that autechre All Tomorrow Parties lp and one i don't have on Sub Rosa)

two hour seefeel special on nts this afternoon, ch2 16:00-18:00 BST:

https://www.nts.live/shows/in-focus/episodes/in-focus-seefeel-12-th-april-2019

I loved that 2011 album, wish they’d done more with that lineup

they played a couple of european dates this february to celebrate the 25th anniversary of quique - not sure who was in the band though

still love listening to Eyes Alpha/Be Together from Scala's "To You in Alpha"

nts thing is on right now btw, just started

i should listen to these records more.

American tour in November:

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/seefeel-announce-first-ever-north-american-tour-again-finally/

Nov 1 – Santa Ana, CA – Constellation Room
Nov 3 – Los Angeles, CA – Echoplex
Nov 5 – San Francisco, CA – Slim’s
Nov 7 – Portland, OR – Star Theatre
Nov 8 – Seattle, WA – Neumos
Nov 9 – Vancouver, BC – Biltmore Cabaret
Nov 11 – Toronto, ON – Adelaide Hall
Nov 12 – Chicago, IL – Empty Bottle
Nov 14 – Brooklyn, NY – Warsaw
Nov 15 – Philadelphia, PA – Johnny Brendas

Some tickets already on sale, others soon to be, so hop to.

Meantime, new live single:

https://seefeelshop.bandcamp.com/album/sp-ga-19

ooh, but also i hope they haven't wrecked this.

If said single is how they're doing their live shows in general, I'm v confident in this. (Almost looking forward to next month's show more than Stereolab next week, just because I've seen the latter so many times and never the former, though I got into both pretty much at the same time in 92/93.)

Doesn't sound at all live to me, sounds like Clifford thought he might put out new remixes of Spangle and Gatha. Or if they are live, they sound mostly like triggered elements of the original recordings. I'm disappointed after the wonderful new directions of the self-titled album, to see them retread the same old same old (which was thoroughly played-out by Ch-Vox, much as I hate to say it).

Is Clifford involved again?

he’s the only constant member

for some reason i thought he was the only one NOT involved in the relaunch (which admittedly I haven't paid much attention to). good work, brain.

Terrific show tonight in LA!

Super excited to see Shigeru and Iida are still in the lineup, they brought amazing power and grind to the sound. Instagram feed showed a recording session the other day - fingers crossed it's a new album, I loved the self-title as much as Succour, my favourite of the first incarnation.

Anyone else seen this tour? Very torn on whether to make the two-hour drive next week.

what was the show like, elvis? curious what kind of material they played

Going to the NY show, looking forward to it

I haven’t listened to the S/T is awhile so I’m not sure what the exact set list was but perhaps half was Quique tracks. Ishihara is definitely the MVP-the low end dub way out in front pulling things along. I wish more bands sounded like this.

were the peel sessions availble before (other than taped off the radio at the time)? they've been released as part of the huge warp box, but are also available separately (digital only?)

https://bleep.com/release/141395-seefeel-peel-session

(reading the link that i posted, they are also on vinyl)

Figured this revive had to do with the show last night. Anyway, they were great! Seemed extremely shy but the tunes themselves were hypnotic.

I wish I went a couple of days ago but sometimes it's really cold out and you just need to sleep. How loud was it?

Pretty loud, but not piercing. Total brain massaging goodness.

i saw them at that empty bottle show! they were great, but to be honest the sound system at the bottle was not quite up to the task. not usually a big deal with a lot of shows there, but a big part of seefeel's appeal (for me at least) is the wonderful quality of the sound that they create, so hearing it (unintentionally) distorted was less than ideal. don't get me wrong, though - they ruled. :)

Only hiccup last night was something not working in the guitar rig on one song, but we wouldn't have noticed if it weren't for him shrugging at the sound guy after twisting knobs on the amp.

Chicago show was great. Definitely not too dynamic on stage but my eyes were closed half the time anyway. Massive basslines a la the Orb maybe, incredible control over endlessly permutating waves of feedback. I'd love to see the signal chain on the guitars, keys, vox. The entire show was nearly seamless. Highly recommended.

just in case anyone needs stuff that strongly resembles Polyfusia

http://rxgibbs.bandcamp.com/album/disclosure-ep

happened across him via his remixes for Dead Leaf Echo, which are strongly worth chasing down.

couldn't find any official announcements on this, but it looks like there are four reissues coming out in may on warped:

Succour (redux) - 3LP vinyl reissue of their second album including bonus disk of unreleased stuff
(ch-vox) redux - 2LP vinyl reissue of their third album including bonus disk of unreleased stuff
St/Fr/Sp - vinyl reissue of the Starethrough and Fractured/Tied EPs on one record
Rupt and Flex (1994 - 96) - 4CD box including all the above material

https://seefeel.bandcamp.com/

i'm not made of money so i'll probably get the CDs - am pretty glad they've done it that way tbh

all mastered by stefan bettke aka pole btw

Ooohhh cool!

Ha! Just came here to post that info! Ordered!

vinyl bundle from Bleep not crazy (ymmv).

Nice t shirt at Bleep too

just to correct my stupid typo because it's bugging me, these are obviously coming out on warp, not warped

the digital versions are £9 each, including rupt and flex which seems to contain all the others. what am i missing?

ha, bit of an oversight there! might be worth contacting the band about that tbh

yeah. like that time i told the local hmv that the autechre ep box shouldn't be £6.99...

i think the trick is to buy it first and then tell them afterwards!

ordered the cds. bandcamp wanted an extra £9 for 'tax and delivery', bleep wanted £3.50.

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiii

came to about US$50 for the CD box set... a little on the high side, but I wanna hear that unreleased stuff!

Only $30 for the 4CD set on Bleep! I haven't bought a CD in years but I'm tempted to buy this one. The shirt on the Warp store is cute, there's also a Quique one on their Bandcamp page I like too, I can't decide what to get. Both are much, much better than the shirts they were selling at their show a few years ago (https://seefeel.bandcamp.com/merch/seefeel-sfl4e-graphic-t-shirt-gold-on-red)

$42 with shipping from Bleep in the US... the t-shirts ARe nice tho

Listening to this set now (was sent promo MP3s). I'd heard this group's name over the years but never actually listened to them before. I wish someone had told me how much they sound like Pole/early Main/various Macro Dub Infection tracks; I would have been all over this 20-25 years ago.

Yeah their shift from being a 'band' in a recognizable but already kinda in-their-own-world sense on the initial EPs and album absolutely ramped up rapidly, in that exact context as you describe.

they were on Too Pure at the time, back when it was full of Faith Healers, PJ Harvey, Stereolab and Moonshake. and i didn't get it immediately, but it grew on me and is now a firm favourite.

they are one of those bands where i wish i knew more bands that sounded like them.

don't sleep on Quique or the most recent (self-titled?) lp either.

(and the two Disjecta lps)
(and clifford's remix of Cherry Coloured Funk)

Unperson - it feels amazing to have missed Seefeel, if you were listening to Pole/early Main/various Macro Dub Infection ... but that's how music is, I guess.

I compiled a playlist last year of music that I think I was listening to around the same time (plus a track that I just wanted to put on there). The dates don't actually quite add up and, in truth, it ought to contain Pole, Main and some Warp stuff:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0WNCUK2moLElB1CeOkMxVm

hahaha, it was 1993 and very easy to miss stuff!

they are one of those bands where i wish i knew more bands that sounded like them.

Main was my first thought, but djh beat me to the punch.

i need to listen to more Pole!

i have the hertz box and motion pool and the odd other thing, but I've never connected the two.

um, maybe seeing a ch-vox comparison, but that's a bit of an outlier for seefeel i think. seefeel's generally more loopy (no pun intended) and dubbier

Two phases really, loops and dub (early works and Quique) then sparse and isolationist (Succour and Ch-Vox). (and then muscular dub with the self title, come on guys make another with that lineup!)

New "ep" of unreleased tracks

https://open.spotify.com/album/3mNZPQiVKNEvKp7mYhRQPd

is there a non-spotify link for that because i'm seeing nothing?

https://thequietus.com/articles/29886-seefeel-four-previously-unreleased-track-reduct-ep

Oh, apologies Koogs, I forget that posting Spotify links won't work for all.

It's a nice pick of unreleased tracks.

it's here. looks a lot like the autechre eps box, but less grey.

There's probably a German word to describe the feeling that everyone else has got their Seefeel box set before you.

eifersucht

Ha! No, something more descriptive than that. Something that captures the curious longing but also the acknowledgement that, all being well, it will probably turn up tomorrow. Maybe Saturday.

seefeelsbadman

lol

well...

there sounds to be a mastering problem on track 11 of disk 2 - i get a glitch. rewound over it several times, same glitch every time

and i think they may've put the usual 2 second delay between tracks of disk 1 even though a couple of them run together - something sounded odd, certainly. (haven't reproduced that, didn't show up when i was skipping to tracks)

I seefeellessbadman about not having received it, now.

Seriously, though, that sucks. Seems such a shame. Like, presumably someone has played a test pressing or similar?

http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/seefeel.png

so here are the two cds ripped as single files and you can see the top one has crept out of sync because of the gaps placed at the starts of the tracks.

and, worse, they've added one where there's a mix into the next track - you can see the tiny bit they've orphaned at the top there. doesn't look much, but sounds terrible.

http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/seefeel2.png

and the other glitch, cd2, track 11, is a gap that shouldn't be there.

yikes

Is this the CD?

yeah.

i made it slightly better using audacity by cutting the silence out and smoothing down the join but it's not that simple. will have another try tomorrow.

wonder if the FLACs on Bandcamp will be corrected?

wonder if the FLACs on Bandcamp will be corrected?

sorry I'm drunk and eating ice cream

cd3, ch-vox redux, sounds great though (and i don't know it as much as i thought i did)

Just ordered the box; apparently the first edition sold out, but importcds had copies for $24 (cheaper than Bleep, and the shipping was *much* cheaper).

so, the things from compilations that are still not collected, a probably incomplete list

Sonics - https://touched.bandcamp.com/album/found-sound-2
Ever Me - https://audioscope.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-a-good-home-3
Is It Now and Ripley - https://subrosalabel.bandcamp.com/album/water-architecture
Lief - Ambient 4 "isolationism"
Phase Maze - Melody Maker Quid Deal cassette
Acrobat - Warp 20 (Maximo Park cover!)
When Face Was Face (isan remix) - Warp 10+3
Air Eyes (In Her Emerald Mix) - Warp 10+3
Spangle (Kid606 Rebootleg Remix) - https://soundcloud.com/kid606/seefeel-spangle-kid606

of which the only one i don't have is the last. less than i thought tbh, but i'm probably thinking of all the little disjecta bits that appeared on compilations and small releases. and the split with zavoloka which was a clifford solo release.

(that isan remix is one of my favourite things ever, they've basically used it as a backing track and written another tune over the top of it)

(i lie. Touched "Found Sound 2" is different from "Touched 2" so that's another one i don't have)

Oh, ta for pointing out that ISAN mix. I own it and love both ISAN and Seefeel ... but somehow I'd forgotten it's existence.

This was on a "Volume" mag/CD: Seefeel – Come Alive (Climatic Phase #1 Mix)

(that was also on the quique redux cd though, so i counted that as collected, just not on the new box. volume 7 fwiw)

Ah, missed that it had been collected.

Time To Find Me (Saturnalia Mix) - The Sound Of Mob Culture
(mp3 here https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/davecinzano/episodes/2006-09-20T12_10_49-07_00 )

typically great Sherburne p4k piece on the reissues

The bass and drums, cornerstones of everything Seefeel had done until now, have momentarily fallen silent; this is a strictly liquid landscape, a vaporous guitar etude that twists like ink dissipating in water. It is the sound of pure electricity, exhausted and forlorn, a haunted dial tone singing deathbed lullabies.

Just picked up the box at my local. Fingers crossed re the glitches (tho I'm not even sure I would notice.)

they are on the digital copies too, if the bleep website is indicative - you can hear the worst right at the end of their clip of Monastic.

i wonder if the second pressing will be different?

I'm guessing someone has actually told Warp??

Hmmm. Maybe I'm not very good at this, but I don't detect any glitches at the end of "Monastic" on my copy.

not at the end, ~54 seconds in

(the sample on the bleep website is 60 seconds long so it's at the end of that)

Ah! Yep, there it is. At least it doesn't skip around, and perhaps this will be something of a collector's item someday, like that upside-down plane stamp.

on disc 2 track 9, you can hear them striking the same rib twice in succession yet they produce two clearly different tones

I emailed Warp on Friday (Aus time) so will see if I get a reply when they wake up today...
I got my copy from Bleep, so the digital copies from Bleep are definitely affected.
You can tell from the track lengths on Bandcamp that they are too.

FYI I made an edit of "Monastic" to get rid of the glitch - used some identical bars from later on.
Don't want to share here because copyright, but if you own it and want to listen properly, DM me? (I'm here so rarely I don't even know how that works!)

Monastic is a previously-unreleased track, no? Maybe the glitch is meant to be there.

raven's fix is nice btw, invisible mending, i was impressed.

i would say from both hearing and seeing that it's not deliberate. it occurs only once and the hole is too ragged, the silence too flat.

Thanks koogs, yeah I've done this before :)
Agreed, it's not deliberate. There's actually part of at least a bar missing, and a tiny bit of pure silence. It's a mistake.

Haven't heard back from Warp yet (but then why would they reply to some random? Well, maybe they will.)

Fairly certain that if you're suggesting something is faulty then they should/would.

They ain't, I'm afraid.
I just posted a comment on Warp's Facebook page to try and get their attention :)

These might be sourced from downmix DATs so could it be a tape dropout/error?

I decided to fire up Audacity and fix the Monastic glitch as well... it's pretty wild that we're at a point where we (well, we're probably more on the nerd end of society than the average) can just kinda casually correct such errors and get on with things... sure the glitch is on the CD, but I listen to the FLACs or mp3s 99% of the time so

So nobody ever got a reply from Warp about this, hey?
They're just gonna slide on, pretending there's nothing wrong?

I read on the Hoffman forum that they are fixing it for the second pressing. I understand they have withdrawn the first pressing for sale. Its listed as 'available in mid July' or something. A manufacturing error that is not on the DATs.

I wonder if that's why I never got my physical copy?

Interesting to hear, ringworm! Wonder if those of us who got the first pressing (at least direct) will get a fix...

I thought if anyone was gonna complain about audio quality/glitches they'd be all over it. Sure'nuff a quick google turned up their thread! https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/seefeel-reissues-may-14-2021.1076263/

Someone pasted this from Bleep, I think
"We are aware of this, yes. I have been speaking to the production team at Warp today and they are hoping to get these issues resolved asap in terms of replacing discs (including for those who have already purchased) and updating the digital downloads where necessary"

Interesting to read in the Simon Reynolds interview that "Charlotte's Mouth" turned into "Starethrough" which then turned into "Ch-vox" – been listening to those for years, but never caught the (pretty clear) similarity until playing them one after another.

new interview here:

https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-glow-070-seefeel

Great interview!

I wonder if Mark and Sarah ever saw this? (forward to 9'59")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLGs41vQ8EU

"Sarah lived in Basingstoke!" was one of my main takeaways from the interview (I also did).

KMRU mix: https://bleep.com/release/257438-seefeel-rapture-to-rupt

(or a free version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFaIBt7Akz4)

call me when they make another album with the self-title lineup

one of the kids on Junior Bake-Off is called 'Quique'

(kee-kay they are pronouncing it, i've always put a w in it, or two)

just “keek” isn’t it? Poor kid.

It's been a name in Spanish for at least a century if not longer, but sounds like ki-kay.

Oh that’s good to know, I just imagined it was some sad dude like myself imposing his idea of taste. Glad I was merely ignorant.

Now his brother Filter Dub...

Any idea if ordering this now gets the corrected CDs without the two issues noted above? Anyone ordered a copy recently?

Mark is interviewed in this RA podcast from a couple of months back:
https://ra.co/exchange/586

23.07.2024 pic.twitter.com/w76kOH6ZRf

— Seefeel (@seefeel_signals) July 19, 2024

And full news up -- new EP in a few weeks:

https://bleep.com/seefeel-everything-squared

I will have a little something more to add about all this myself around then.

> sold-out Cafe OTO show

you what what?

> I will have a little something more to add about all this myself around then.

Ooh!

And now all can be revealed!

https://thequietus.com/interviews/seefeel-mark-clifford-post-rock-interview/

A wonderful chat for sure!

they rerecorded spangle in 2019? did i miss that?

oh Sp/Ga 19, is on rupt/flex

And now you know.

I really enjoyed that. What a thoughtful person. I love reading about the creative process. As an older guy who's been at it for many years, I can kind of relate to some of it, not that I'll ever do it on a professional level. I wonder if he's able to mostly focus on music or if he has a career outside of music.

Our own unperson with a new piece in turn on That There Seefeel:

https://burningambulance.substack.com/p/seefeel

both great pieces!

somehow i am at the cafe oto show rn - will report back

Excellence! Yeah what's the current lineup, is it the same one as back in 2019?

Trio, not sure who was on bass but Clifford and peacock definitely. It was great, and sort of sweet - sort of saw the seams a bit more, felt more band-y and less studio-y. some crushing dubby moments and very unclear connection between what Clifford was doing with his hands and what I heard out of the amps. I was only in London for a night and agog I ended up there

Awesome for sure.

I hope they eventually can get to the states again, that 2019 show was tremendous

I'm certain that Extract from Succour has a sample of your dude dying in Contra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpypHSuuro

Snes death at 1:39

I hope they eventually can get to the states again, that 2019 show was tremendous

Per my interview with Mark, he definitely would love to come back so it won't be for lack of trying.

that new EP is astonishing

also i still play the s/t a lot... only good music in the seefeel catalog

For a second I thought you were saying 'the' only good music and I was going to abjure you.

Haha yeah I was like “…. What….”

haha oops. well i don't think the s/t gets enough love tbf

Aw yeah, new release now up:

https://seefeel.bandcamp.com/album/squared-roots

Is the touring version of Seefeel now just Mark Clifford? I was happy to find out that they're playing in Florence in April in a great space (https://www.musicusconcentus.com/sala-vanni-firenze/). The description here makes it sound like it's him and an A/V guy:

. . . questo A/V live show vede protagonisti il fondatore dei Seefeel Mark Clifford assieme all’artista visuale Dan Conway: uno show unico, capace di immergere lo spettatore nelle atmosfere musicali del celebre gruppo inglese.

If it's Mark Clifford and yer gran on bongoes, it's still Seefeel.

Ha, kinda. When I interviewed him a few months back he didn't give any indication that the general core live lineup had changed much, but I do get a sense it can be a bit ad hoc depending on availability, with Sarah living in Berlin etc.

https://boomkat.com/products/quique-redux-edition-3bddc8d9-0483-45a1-be03-48039bcbbf04

quique redux 2025 remaster?

same tracklisting

(oh, i read march as may, so this is out already)

wait, is this a remaster of a remaster?

oddly the boomkat newsletter today was touting a quique non-redux 2025 remaster.

(which makes 4 versions now)

https://boomkat.com/products/pure-impure-expanded-edition

cd actually cheaper than the two original eps from 94/95