whitesnake - "here i go again"

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i'm probably wrong to find this, like, an exceptionally moving song, right?

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

this shit is my neon bible

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

Right.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

(in response to original question)

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

it's always the first song on my ipod, and i like to think it'll come on the radio in the car when i'm finally released from prison and on to here knows when.

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Youtube still doesn't have the Ruth Badger version of this.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

you shit the neon bible? dude. the arcade fire are serious dudes i would not fuck with them.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

It's the raging Yang to "Cryin' in the Rain"'s sober Yin.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

everytime i quit a job, i blare this in the parking lot as i peel off into the sunset

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

How often have you quit your job?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

It shows how effective the word "drifter" is over "hobo".

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

YEAH WELL FUCK HER, HERE I GO AGAIN, RIGHT DAVE

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

seriously i love this song

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

so so much

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Dave is very Right.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Terrible! I can't stand David Coverdale's singing or lyrics, sorry!

Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

everytime i break up with a girl, i blare this album as i pack up my box of stuff from her apartment and shuffle off into the sunset.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

norman do you hate SELF-SUFFICIENCY?

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ original "hobo" lyrics

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

we dont always get it right straight out of the gate i guess

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

here you go again on your own, strongo.

andrew m., Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

this song is all the company i need

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

having made up my mind

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

and wasting no more time

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

walkin' down the only road you've ever known.

good tune.

i like whitesnake mostly. slide it in is good. it's a lil' more 70s rock but cool.

i have an vandenberg cassette somewhere, remember liking a few songs off that.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

haha "having made up my mind"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

ha, i've been listening to this song a lot myself.

i love the chorus, it's so gigantic. i love gigantic choruses.

latebloomer, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

strongo, i bet you were born to walk alone

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

(yes, including the chorus from "gigantic")

latebloomer, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

"who among us does not love whitesnake?"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

"watching as mediocrity gets canonised around you in this inevitable, grinding fashion is even more dispiriting than dealing with the monolith of the existing canon of mediocrity"

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

i always heard it growing up as "like a prisoner i was born to walk alone" which makes slightly less sense

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

marcello i think we have some years to go before whitesnake is "canonized"

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

no yeah this song rocks.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

I think the correct phrase here is "cold dead hands."

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

al if you look out your window soon you may see me triumphantly striding off to get a sandwich while listening to this

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

no sandwich has ever seemed more important, more fraught with potential heartbreak

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

Whitesnake are the salmonella of rock.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

maura.com (12:52:11 PM): it's just another pastrami in need of rescue
STRONGO (12:51:47 PM): lol

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

I did actually put this on after being fired once. I also once listened to Hall & Oates "She's gone" after being dumped.

jim, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

tawny kitaen is dancing on that sandwich

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

It's alright. I can almost feel it. I mean, I can feel my way to what I'm supposed to feel, but once I get there, I can't quite feel the thing itself. The thing itself eludes my feeling, a soapy breast.

vals tips for teens, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

"who among us does not love whitesnake?"

Tracer Hand on Tues


They're like a power ballad version of Whitehouse.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

[Removed Illegal Link]

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

(Another hearty "fuck you" to nu-ILX code, etc.)

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

Norman that's a DISGRACEFUL SLUR to INDUSTRIAL PIONEERS OF DARKWAVE CORE

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder who has had more success with women in string bikins: David Coverdale or William "Don't Call Me Paul McKenna" Bennett?

Tom D., Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, BEST FOOTNOTE I'VE READ TODAY:

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/w/whitesnake/here+i+go+again_20146215.html

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Park Avenue is indeed a lonely street of dreams.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

i am shocked -- shocked -- that this seems to be breaking down along british/american lines

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

I would expect Mr Abie has had more success in that field than both of them put together.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Cock-oriented bollocks sung over torpid blues-rock or yelled over puny white noise generator swooshes, take yer pick. Either is better than an indie-rock version of Whitehoise, I suppose.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

i am shocked -- shocked -- that this seems to be breaking down along british/american lines

Haha. My hate springs from selling possibly thousands of copies of their albums when I was in the record shop. I still feel a bit queasy when I see that album cover w/the woman being fucked by a giant snake.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

(xpost) This article suggests otherwise:

http://www.relacademy.freeuk.com/metrofeature.jpg

Tom D., Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

i love that cover!

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

i remember minna used it as a jumping off point for a thread about women's back dimples

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

[Removed Illegal Link]

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=11916

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

God damn this nu-ilx coding.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

they are proof that women are descended from violins

(doorag) on Sunday, 8 December 2002

lol

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

PP, just stop putting in punctuation for your link text for the moment. The 2.1 site has that problem fixed and the code should be rolled out here before month's end.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

I miss doorag :(

Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

I'm more of a "Still of the Night" man myself.

darin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

"is this love?" isn't bad either.

i always wanted to hear that coverdale/page album

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

Now THAT was a bad album cover.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.whitesnakeitalia.it/discografia/immagini/coverdale%20page.JPG

DO YOU SEE etc.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

Ew. A cock with a cock.

("Here I Go Again" = awesome, btw)

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

all i see is a desire on Coverdale/Page to school the youngsters of the 80's on traffic safety. originally they were going to do a whole series of albums with different road signs on them for this purpose. no sinister implications there!

latebloomer, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

a desire on coverdale/page's part, i mean.

or perhaps just plain old desire on their...parts. ewwww.

latebloomer, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

coverdale's whispery breakdown leading into the guitar solo on 'still of the night' is a moment without peer in the world of overproduced '87 pop metal (excepting def leppard--maybe).

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard he's a decent fellow, Coverdale

Tom D., Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

TS: "Here I Go Again" vs "Armageddon It"

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

i'm going to go with here i go again, but if you threw up photograph or pour some sugar on me, i might have a tough time

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

here i go again is better than armageddon it!

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

I was trying to match up the bombast; maybe "Pour Some Sugar On Me" is more appropriate...?

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

(I'd also pick "Here I Go Again" over "Armageddon It".)

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

my favorite def lep song of that era is "animal," though i realize this is a minority opinion

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

"Animal" IS AWESOME

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

the sense of dread mixed w/his cockiness, the inevitability, the sense he has no control, his destiny is fixed whether he likes it or not, his rasp, the gigantic shift in mood between verse and chorus yanking you forward like the opposite of a sunny teen movie that suddenly turns into a horror film halfway through// vs. "are you gettin it (i'm a gettin it)"

"here i go again" x100000000000000000000

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

Deeply deeply AWESOME

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

tracer i love you

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

not as much as i love david coverdale but close

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

I'm getting ready
I'm in the mood to fool around
It's time for action
Now the boys are back in town
So turn up the music
Make it loud and proud
Let's see reaction
Let the spotlite hit the crowd
Don't hide what you feel inside
Don't let anybody stand in your way
Just let the music take you higher
Now are you ready to rock
Children of the Night
Are you ready to roll
Children of the night
You got the fire
I feel your fire in my soul
You got the fever
Cos you were born to rock an' roll
Don't run for cover
I'm gonna show you what I've learned
Just come a little closer
Come on an' get your fingers burn
Don't hide what you feel inside
Don't let anybody stand in your way
Just let the music take you higher
Now are you ready to rock
Are you ready to roll
Are you ready to rock
Now are you ready to rock
Children of the Night
Are you ready to roll
Children of the night
I'm getting ready
I'm in the mood to fool around
It's time for action
Cos now the boys are back in town
Don't hide what you feel inside
Don't let anybody stand in your way
Just let the music take you higher
Now are you ready to rock
Children of the Night
Are you ready to roll
Children of the night

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

i admit that 'here i go again', while lacking some of the glistening urban malaise of 'still of the night', is indeed a compelling study in the delusional destructiveness of a self-imposed solitary existence.

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

there's a feeling in this song that he is CHOSEN - which is both a gift and a burden - yet that chosenness comes from little more than his own will; it's like anti-Calvinism ca. 1710

xposts i love you too you freak!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

for def lep, i wouldn't really put anything on hysteria up against "here i go again"...different beasts...(btw AWESOME post tracer).

i was a little metal kid and i knew instinctively that def lep had left me behind on hysteria. i liked it, or tried to, but they'd evolved into something else, a sorta po-mo pop guitar band. which is probably what ILMers love so much about it, but it felt like a betrayel to me when i was like 13 or whatever. you can do a lot in metal, but you can't be NOT metal....i even liked Turbo by priest at the time, so i wasn't a luddite....even as glossy as it was, "here i go again" felt good to me....it was metal-dramatic even though it wasn't that hard....i guess a better comparison for leppard to "here i go again" would be "bringin' on the heartache" or something like that.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

Actually the one song on Hysteria that I think is completely unfuckwithable is "Hysteria". that song is one of the greatest things ever recorded.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

"Alone" by Heart, "Livin' on a Prayer" by Bon Jovi better than any of this nonsense.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

wtf

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

Every time I hear this song I regret that I went with a Volkswagen instead of a Mustang. Like real tears regret.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

This is probably hopefully the only power ballad video I've ever masturbated to.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I was kidding!

Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry!

Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

TS: "Here I Go Again" vs "Here You Come Again"

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

...on your rug.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

"hysteria" sounds like it was madefor a john hughes movie (in a good way of course)

this has a number of good tunes:
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00000JCO1.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

whitesnake contribution: "is this love"

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

but this thread isn't about ballads i suppose.

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

You Hysteria people are beyond help.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

hysteria rules, not just because of the one armed drummer either

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

"Livin' On A Prayer" and "Alone" both also rule!

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

its not perfect. a little over-long really. i like pyromania better i think.

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

(xpost)

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

(hahahahaha I have been tempted to buy that Monster Ballads album multiple times)

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

every bad boy has a soft side

latebloomer, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

i think a whole generation knows mostly about hair metal sole from those ads

latebloomer, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

i really love "alone" by heart.

there's something spooky about that song....the way the melody goes on the "sometiiimes it chiiiiillls me to the bone" part really gets me. hidden goth.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

solely

latebloomer, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

1. Heaven - Warrant
2. Something To Believe In - Poison
3. High Enough - Damn Yankees
4. Almost Paradise - Mike Reno/Anne Wilson
5. Is This Love - Whitesnake
6. To Be With You - Mr. Big
7. Carrie - Europe
8. Don't Know What You Got Til It's Gone - Cinderella
9. More Than Words - Extreme
10. Headed For A Heartbreak - Winger
11. When I Look Into Your Eyes - Firehouse
12. Wind Of Change - Scorpions
13. I'll Never Let You Go (Angel Eyes) - Steelheart
14. When I See You Smile - Bad English
15. Don't Close Your Eyes - Kix
16. When I'm With You - Sheriff


Worth it for 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 11!

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

xpost: "Alone" is really the pinnacle of nu-Heart; it's the only thing they put out in the late 80s that stands up to their late 70s/early 80s awesomeness.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

that mr. big song suxxx....more than words is good but was probably to blame for robbing the powerballad of its power....campfire singalong b.s. mostly after that. people got afraid to scale the heights

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

so glad i started this

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

Ha M@tt, Mr. Big is the #1 reason why I've been able to resist the siren call of this album!

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

i saw them open for Rush. billy sheehan played bass with a powerdrill!

i love him on the first DLR full length though...i never heard steeler his first band or i think he was in alcatrazz too, but that's more guitar mag type shit which is off topic.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

just to be the one to beeeeee with yooooooou

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

death to false power ballads

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man, Monster Ballads. Ratio of dudes-I-originally-thought-were-chicks vs dudes-that-were-obviously-dudes is like 10:1 on that.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

death to false power ballads

strongohulkington on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:38 PM (32 seconds ago)


word up! five man acoustical jam by tesla gets some blame too....that pissed me off at the time as well, esp. cuz i dug them when they were more rockin' like "modern day cowboy" and stuff.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Was "Wind of Change" the Scorpions song with the emotional whistling?

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

yes

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

the death of communism was hell on hard rock

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

ts: the days when dudes could start bands called things like "I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness" vs the days when dudes could start bands called things like "Kix"

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

well i would almost certainly never eat a cereal called i love you but ive chosen darkness

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

sometimes i look at the listings for all the shitty pop emo bands that play around here every weekend and wonder if a future generation's chuck eddy will write about them like our chuck wrote about kix

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

"I'm Terribly Sorry, But I'm Going To Have To Ask You To Blow My Fuse"

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

I'll admit it. I mean I obviously have no shame I already admitted to ejaculating again on my own on this very thread. I still love "More Than Words". Even with it's shitty grammar ("more than words is all I ever needed you to show that you wouldn't have to say that you would give me a D, teach").

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

i love you but i've chosen the final countdown

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

"This Ain't A Scene, It's Bad Medicine"

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

i thought it would be the fun loving criminals thread that brought us together but i was wrong!

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

i remember a false metal ballad called 'phantom rider' by tora tora (off their album 'surprise attack'). note the missing 'tora'.

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Wanted Dead Or His Name Is Alive

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

they were big around the same time as danger danger

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i remember them....that was sort of when i was beginning to wane on pop metal...seemed like it was on it's last legs....sort of the trixter/slaughter/dangerous toys/etc etc era.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

TRIXTER

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

did they have the midget?

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

aka the hard rock bushwick bill

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

i knew it was all over when this heretefore purist metal dude showed up to wood shop one afternoon wearing a trixter shirt with that awful cover art on it.

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

dan get Monster Ballads. theres a few songs to be skipped, but its totally awesome and uplifting and spiritual.

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

that's around the time when everyone i know started listening to cypress hill

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

i'll admit my knowledge of trixter only runs as deep as full color advertisements in circa-1989 d.c. comics

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

so i sort of group them together with straight-to-video cannonball run knock-offs and cool world

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

wind sof change is probably the pinnacle for me. my grandma had a tape where a native american group that she had heard at the MN Zoo covered Winds of Change.

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

two words: silent lucidity

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

Haha Dangerous Toys. Freshman year of hs, my guitar-shredder friend & I would go to the used cd store and buy whatever looked metal, and this was probably the worst one I ever got. It certainly didn't live up to this:

http://www.hardrockin80s.com/pictures/az_2314_Dangerous%20Toys_Dangerous%20Toys.jpg

Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

sometimes i look at the listings for all the shitty pop emo bands that play around here every weekend and wonder if a future generation's chuck eddy will write about them like our chuck wrote about kix

strongohulkington on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:13 AM (7 minutes ago)

uh oh, don't make me pitch you a thinkpiece on HelloGoodbye

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

gah!!!

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

haha xpost i think

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

jackyl!

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

yeah queensryche was one of the last real metal bands to blow up....empire was like the same time as nevermind, wasn't it?....in 91 everything is on life support....the whole pop metal thing has grown weak from within, except no one knows it yet....skid row's slave to the grind is the last hurrah, waterloo and then it's all over with....it's so fucking weird that queensryche ever got popular in retrospect....

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, that Dangerous Toys record rocked. HEY MAN I THINK I LIKE BEING SCARED.

Also rockin' for sixteen-year old PP: That Tora Tora album cover.

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000002GIL.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

'scared' = one of the all-time great songs of that era, mostly because jason mcmaster didn't get all screechy

i couldn't handle tora tora at all, though.

ps i still have the trixter comic

maura, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

Also rockin' for sixteen-year old PP

hehehehe

latebloomer, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

i think the final nail in the coffin was 'the wild life' by slaughter, which i think debuted at #2 IIRC. it was in 1992, and i know 'nevermind' came out in '91 but i don't think it broke through until '92, probably right after the slaughter album.

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

a few years my brother worked at the movie theater in White Marsh and there was this car he saw in the parking lot every day, presumably belonging to an unidentified co-worker, that was just COVERED in Queensryche paraphenalia and bumper stickers. to this day we often ask each other: "Got 'Ryche?"

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

jason mcmaster

Wait, was he in nerdy tech-metal band WATCHTOWER?

It's scary that shit like this is still in my brain.

Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00008A8JM.01._SS400_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

JET CITAAAY WOOOOOOMAN

lol Queensryche, freshman year of high school was all about Operation Mindcrime

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

The more you know...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/TrixterUndercover.jpg


Undercovers (occasionally misspeled Undercover) is an album of cover songs released by melodic rock band Trixter in 1994. The album failed to chart. It remains, to date, the last recording by Trixter.
[edit]Track listing

Pump It Up - 3:41
Elvis Costello And The Attractions
50 Ways To Leave Your Lover - 4:42
Paul Simon
Terrible Lie - 4:24
Nine Inch Nails
Take the Long Way Home - 5:17
Supertramp
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap - 3:56
AC/DC
Revolution - 3:45
The Beatles
50 Ways To Leave Your Lover (Unplugged) - 4:30
(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party) (Live) - 4:05
Beastie Boys

darin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

what the hell was the band with the midget then?

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

You know, it's funny, I've heard this lots of times and enjoyed it every time but I just d/l-ed because of this thread and the only parts I remembered were the chorus and pre-chorus. They're enough to carry the song. I love hearing this in the car when it's sunny. (And, no, the Tawny Kitaen video has nothing to do with that.)

Sundar, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

Accept?

darin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

(x-post)

darin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

i had "balls to the wall" as my ringtone for a very long time

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

what the hell was the band with the midget then?

Dio?

Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.rockdetector.com/assets/img/covers/12172.jpg

botero, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

That Trixter covers album is crazy.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

have u guys heard the recently released Def Leppard covers album????

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

NO

Is it nearly as deranged as that Trixter album? ("Terrible Lie"????????????)

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drh200/h296/h29649khcg3.jpg

1. 20th Century Boy (Bolan)
2. Rock On (Essex)
3. Hanging on the Telephone (Lee)
4. Waterloo Sunset (Davies)
5. Hell Raiser (Chapman, Chinn)
6. 10538 Overturne (Lynne)
7. Street Life (Ferry)
8. Drive-In Saturday (Bowie)
9. Little Bit of Love (Fraser/Kirke/Kossoff/Rodgers)
10. The Golden Age of Rock 'N' Roll (Hunter)
11. No Matter What (Ham)
12. He's Gonna Step on You Again (Demetriou, Kongos)
13. Don't Believe a Word (Lynott)
14. Stay with Me (Stewart, Wood)

frickin' a!

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

Definitely not Rick Allen in the center there.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard the Waterloo Sunset cover. Sounds just like the orininal, but through a really wet Mutt Lange filter.

darin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

I enjoy the keyboard/singing intro enough that it very much bothers me whenever the radio plays the version that starts with drums right at the beginning. So perhaps I actually do like this song more than I was prepared to admit. I also like the guitar solo, and the "HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH" part.

The 2nd half of the song is kind of a bummer.. it's just the chorus repeated over and over.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

gff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

The 2nd half of the song is kind of a bummer the best thing ever to happen to me.. it's just the chorus repeated over and over.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

this reminds me so much of being a kid, hanging out in the public pool. this was a massive summer hit; i'd wait for it all day. i'm pretty sure 9 year old me stomped around with great purpose whenever it came on the pool PA

gff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

This would have been senior year in high school -- but I really don't have much a connection to the song either way. It was just one of those things on the radio! I was loving Guns'n'Roses and Def Leppard more.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

High school = Queensryche (and aerosmith)

Silent Lucidity (and Wish You Were Here) got a 15-year-old me into playing guitar.

What a strange time.

kingfish, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

what the hell was the band with the midget then?


Accept, motherfucker!

unperson, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

One month I was standing in line at midnight to be one of the first kids in my town to own the Use Your Illusion albums. The next month, I had the Nevermind CD and on to better things. The fall of 1991 for me could be summed up by that cut scene in 2001 where the monkey throws a bone in the air and it turns into a spaceship.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

:-D That's a beautiful description.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

1992 - I made my best friend Jason's older brother - drunk and laughing, in their basement den - piss his pants, playing a cover of "Silent Lucidity" while my other best friend Tyler yanked the whammy bar suggestively.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

One month I was standing in line at midnight to be one of the first kids in my town to own the Use Your Illusion albums.

haha wow i went up to mankato MN to stand in line for use yr illusion too!

later on that year we went up to stand in line for lollapalooza tickets!

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

i never knew about this idea that you had to 'choose' between use yr illusion and nirvana, but maybe we were slightly too young to understand.

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

You don't have to choose. But for me personally, once I heard one of them, it was hard to go back and listen to the other.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

yeah lol kirdt lurn to plae gitar

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

i never knew about this idea that you had to 'choose' between use yr illusion and nirvana, but maybe we were slightly too young to understand.

artdamages on Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:49 (16 minutes ago)


it wasn't like you "had" to choose......but at the same time it felt like things were changing, i was more drawn to other stuff....you had to be the "right age" probably though...i remember some friends of mine, dudes that still liked metal, giving me shit for wearing a beastie boys check yr head shirt.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

"And that friend's name...was Chuck Klosterman."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

i wish paul harvey posted here.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

my dad had nevermind and i dubbed a tape copy. i was 10 in '92.

artdamages, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

i remember some friends of mine, dudes that still liked metal, giving me shit for wearing a beastie boys check yr head shirt.

I remember a guy who loved the Ramones because, as he put it, "They never changed, man."

A certain beauty in that, but not what I'm after.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

I really clearly remember waking up in the middle of the night and wandering downstairs to find my dad howmpfing White Castle burgers, watching MTV - first time I ever heard/saw "Smells Like Tine Spirit" (video). I was all "what's he saying?", and dad was like "what does it matter?".

nickalicious, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

my dad had nevermind and i dubbed a tape copy. i was 10 in '92.

yep i was 16 or 17 which is a pretty big difference at that age.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
HERE I GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH


I really only like that part because of its brilliant absurdity, which you've nicely demonstrated.

billstevejim, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

why does every pop metal thread devolve into talking about nirvana?

artdamages, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

well not just that, every pop metal thread says the SAME THING about nirvana.

billstevejim, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

i know! that's a great bit. i'm imagining it looped over and over again. i could listen to that for, like, a while

gff, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

i remember when we still lived in the old house, i had my entire room wallpapered with posters and cutout pages of circus, hit parader, metal edge, rip, etc....man i wish i woulda saved some of those...i remember i had a sweet one of the iron maiden stage setup for the somewhere in time tour.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

i hear that Nirvana sounded like a lot of bands that existed years earlier than. most of them never sold many records.

artdamages, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

(than them.)

artdamages, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

so let's talk about something else then!

wasn't it weird that nikki sixx was like the only bassist ever who was the coolest member of the band?

i remember being weirded out when i found out that Y&T had been a band since like 1968 or something...they just kept changing w/the times and ended up as a pop metal band.

"night songs" by cinderella holds up SURPRISINGLY well, as does "long cold winter"

does anyone remember the album "No Respect" by Vain...honest to god, I swear it's like the lost classic of that LA glam era.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

what was the deal with D.A.D.? they had this weird scandanavian vibe about them, like i wonder if they used to in punk bands like the junkyard dudes or maybe in a hanoi rocks kinda thing? "sleeping the day away" was a great song though.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

actually maybe geir hongro knows the secret 411 on DAD?

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

honest to god, I swear it's like the lost classic of that LA glam era


You must excuse me. There is only one:

In praise of Pretty Boy Floyd

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

haha that was a great thread!

i'm totes serious ned you should check out that Vain record!

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

I've no doubt it is of the crazed genius.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

just look at it!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006FV648.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

i remember when we still lived in the old house, i had my entire room wallpapered with posters and cutout pages of circus, hit parader, metal edge, rip, etc....man i wish i woulda saved some of those...i remember i had a sweet one of the iron maiden stage setup for the somewhere in time tour.

I used to cut up the CD long boxes and make wall collages out of them. I even manged to work in Tesla's Five Man Electrical Jam artwork into there!

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

i hope this isn't too off-topic, but...

i heard tuff's "american hair band" for the first time last week and almost lost control of the car. wow.

lauren, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

wasn't it weird that nikki sixx was like the only bassist ever who was the coolest member of the band?


Lemmy.

unperson, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Tommy_StinsonGNR.jpg

ghost rider, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

i heard tuff's "american hair band" for the first time last week and almost lost control of the car. wow.


Embrace your inner hesher.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

ARGH you ruined it by using the word "hesher"! This whole thread is repellent now.

HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

i never heard the word "hesher" growing up....i think lifter puller was the first time i heard that....maybe it's not a southern MN thing....people said "dirtballs" or "motorheads"

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

A word is worth a thousand mental pictures?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

hesher is a pretty east coast thing i think.

it's wierd, other than liking this song when i was 9, i really hated this kind of music, at the time! i never liked motley crue or any of that, and EVERYBODY did around me. actually i take that back, i loved "slippery when wet" when i was in 3rd grade, i probably still have that memorized if i ever heard it again.

but now i totally adore pyromania and hysteria, i think those two records really are their own thing, somehow

gff, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

We said "hesher" (or "hescher") in the mid-south.

I was surprised that in Missouri, they called hicks Hoosiers.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

hesher is a pretty east coast thing i think


I grew up in suburban NJ, and the first time I heard it was when my cousins from L.A. came to visit.

unperson, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

THIS THREAD 100% OTM

max, Saturday, 16 June 2007 03:37 (eighteen years ago)

i dont even like this "ironically" I LOVE IT AUTHENTICALLY TAKE THAT YOU POSTMODERN BITCHES

max, Saturday, 16 June 2007 03:37 (eighteen years ago)

another song that is great but very different: peaches and cream

max, Saturday, 16 June 2007 04:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'm happy that the Monster Ballads commercial is on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNCiXKpO94g

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 June 2007 04:24 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

playing this right now.

i love this song.

latebloomer, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

classic song, classic thread yall

Fred Durst. Wat heb ik gewonnen? (Matt P), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

if this doesn't win the #1 of 87 poll i will be SO SAD

ian, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

feeling this song tonight, as per usual, i can't lie

charlie the luna (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 07:05 (thirteen years ago)

s/t lp is the jam. Don't deny!! Even the deep cuts cut deep!!

sug ones (omar little), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 07:11 (thirteen years ago)

i'm just a hobo looking for my tawny

charlie the luna (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 07:40 (thirteen years ago)

Every bad boy has a soft side

let's keep this board about feet, please. (latebloomer), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 08:20 (thirteen years ago)

I remember an older friend gave me this on on tape alone with a frosted pink lip gloss on Christmas and ugh IT WAS THE COOLEST.

This song is one of the greatest ever in the world no question.

ENBB, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

one of my favorite parts of The Fighter was when walberg & bale walk into the ring to this song, singing along and air punching

terrell sug (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Ain't wasting no more time iirc

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

didn't know where else to put this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7gK_wbVAmQ

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 20 December 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago)

two years pass...

"I used to [sing it a lot], because the words, I thought the words fits me. The words makes me feel like, yeah, it's me again. [It goes] "Like a drifter I was born to walk alone, 'cause I know what it means to walk alone the lonely street of dreams." And it's true because it's just dreams. Dreams that I would be home one day, dreams that I would be free, dreams that Guantanamo would be closed."

Shaker Aamer: In his own words

Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Monday, 14 December 2015 07:05 (nine years ago)

two years pass...

this shit is my neon bible

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:30 AM (eleven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

damn, ain't it though

omar little, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)


watching as mediocrity gets canonised around you in this inevitable, grinding fashion is even more dispiriting than dealing with the monolith of the existing canon of mediocrity

― lex pretend, Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:03 AM (eleven years ago)

my vote for the new ILM board description.

enochroot, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)

didn't know until recently that Crying In the Rain was a re-recording of a song they'd already made on their 1982 album Saints An' Sinners

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL27exW4VVk

omar little, Thursday, 28 June 2018 21:50 (seven years ago)

Eleven-year lurker posting for the first time. Ironically, this was the first thread that caught my attention on ILM, due to the "hobo" revelation.

Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Friday, 29 June 2018 01:42 (seven years ago)

Hobo version is also on Saints & Sinners.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 29 June 2018 01:58 (seven years ago)

This song is fine. "Still of the Night" is the best Zep rip outside of Billy Squier's "Lonely is the Night." Everything else I've heard from Whitesnake is garbage.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:12 (seven years ago)

For most of their career before breaking big in 1987, Whitesnake mainly a serviceable Deep Purple w/o the confidence.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:16 (seven years ago)

I particularly resented how "Is This Love" throws solo Robert Plant-in-ballad-mode in the garbage can.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 June 2018 02:17 (seven years ago)

Whitesnake remained a bit less obvious in the Zep ripoff dept than their contemporaries in Kingdom Come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIr9-Gn-SNs

omar little, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:43 (seven years ago)

i liked how Plant called Coverdale "David Coverversion"

omar little, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:44 (seven years ago)

Been singing this shit when reasonably alone since this dumb thread re appeared

calstars, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:49 (seven years ago)

Eleven-year lurker posting for the first time. Ironically, this was the first thread that caught my attention on ILM, due to the "hobo" revelation.

Lolololol
Eleven-year lurker posting for the first time. Ironically, this was the first thread that caught my attention on ILM, due to the "hobo" revelation.


11 year lurker? wtf

calstars, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:50 (seven years ago)

For most of their career before breaking big in 1987, Whitesnake mainly a serviceable Deep Purple w/o the confidence.


No no no. Sorry but WS has nothing on DP

calstars, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:51 (seven years ago)

xpost, that's probably the smartest way to interact w ilx

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 June 2018 03:00 (seven years ago)


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