Times New Viking

don't wear a band t-shirt to the show. Just a bit of advice.

This band are great.

hey rw:

saturday 31
Missoula, MT The Palace

Anybody else hear the new one yet? Signing to Matador sure hasn't made them any less lo-fi or noisy.

7" sounds good

Yeah, it's good. A little long, maybe, at 33 minutes or so, but pretty kickass in a Demolition Plot J-7 kinda way

A little long, maybe, at 33 minutes or so

how many songs? do they hit a 2-minute average yet?

Yeah, there are plenty of 2 minute + tunes. There are 16 songs, I think. 10 would have been better

love this:
it's like their recording equipment is in new zealand and the band itself is in ohio
-- strongohulkington, Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:01 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Link

tnv sound like they press their records on dryer lint
-- strongohulkington, Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:08 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Link

also this:

no maryland/d.c. area shows = booooo
-- strongohulkington, Monday, April 2, 2007 2:52 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Link

u sad
-- hstencil, Monday, April 2, 2007 3:14 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Link

i like the new one. boy it's loud. they're sort of made for the age of compression, matador just made their red zone bigger. not quite as many tunes jump out at me, but they also try some slightly different things.

"the early '80s" is awesome

I'm hearing the old one for the first time just now... but it's really good! Kind of been avoiding them, thinking they would just let me down anyway. Seemed to cool to actually be any good.

new one rocks, WOW is it mastered loud. seriously ear-shredding.

in general I'm ambivalent about "intentional" lo-fi as an aesthetic choice, "it sounds like ass so it must be authentic!" (as opposed to, say, early GBV where they couldn't afford to make the records sound any better.) but these guys kinda use the grotty recording hiss-noise blast as another instrument, if that makes sense. like the guitar solo toward the end of the first track (Teen Drama), it's not just guitar it's this whole bendy noisy shit-blast. I'm seriously hooked on these guys, all three of their records are great.

but these guys kinda use the grotty recording hiss-noise blast as another instrument
Yes. So, it sounds kinda shitty, but it all sounds exactly like it should. Like, they worked hard to make it sound that shitty. Like the Psychedelic Horseshit record, the fidelity is so low, but the mix is really well defined. You can hear everything very clearly.
The hooks and the lyrics get me every time, I think that they are writing really great songs.

And I love the little asides at the end of songs like "Little Amps" (Pop Sooonnnnngggg!) and the one where he says "pussy pop!" really quickly at the end, can't remember which song it is.

populous is up next-AH

Too bad they kinda sounded like Rainer Maria when I saw them live a few years ago

no hiss = no fun

Yeah, my friend compared their live set to Mates of State.

These dudes fucking annihilated Yo La Tengo last night

1. Teen Drama
2. (My Head)
3. RIP Allegory
4. The Wait
5. DROP-OUT
6. Come Together
7. Faces On Fire
8. Relevant: Now
9. The Early `80s
10. Mean God
11. Another Day
12. The Apt.
13. Off The Wall
14. End Of All Things
15. Times New Viking Vs. Yo La Tengo
16. Post Teen Drama

lol

i liked em live, but in a way they really are a studio band for the reasons dmr sez. the noise is almost orchestrated, hard to reproduce.

Like the Psychedelic Horseshit record

guess I need to hear this, huh. they get mentioned a lot. I think it's their name that's stopping me. I only caught one song of their set when they opened for TNV in brooklyn.

oh dude cmon yeah, youll love it

I just haven't seen it around either. I guess they probably have it at 4c4d3my

rainer maria?!? oh ouch

everyone i know that saw them was really disappointed said they were just like any other indie rock band w/o the production. still i'd like to go see them, love the records.

I liked em fine, they played loud, they covered Pavement for the encore (Box Elder), what more do ya need

Yeah, I think that if you go into it already a fan, you'll like it just fine. People who don't know what to expect are sometimes disappointed.
I had a great time at their show.

lots of the people i know that didn't like 'em listen to more noise stuff and just like the records cuz of the whole production/stiltbreeze lineage type stuff...i mean i dig on GBV and they were full on rock live so i'm sure i'll be fine...i think this band sort of straddles the underground-noise/indie divide in a weird way.

most disconcerting thing for me live was how cute they all were. like a band of arty kids from degrassi high.

also "relevant:now" shows some drone potential. i predict the next album will be one 17-minute song and 17 one-minute songs.

(as opposed to, say, early GBV where they couldn't afford to make the records sound any better.)

don't think that's true. the real early gbv records, like sandbox, were recorded in cheap but quite real studios, and they just didn't like the results. so they eventually retreated into their garage with their four-tracks and memory mans for aesthetic reasons -- they preferred the sound they got by themselves. and i would argue that the hiss/noise/buzz/tape-hiccups they got as a result were very much a part of gbv's aesthetic. it wouldn't have cost a lot of money to find another 16-track studio somewhere in ohio in the early '90s.

the new TNV records sounds like early superchunk with the treble turned to 10 and the bass turned to zero. i like it.

it wouldn't have cost a lot of money to find another 16-track studio somewhere in ohio in the early '90s.

maybe ... but they did jump back to making big studio records as soon as they got on Matador

whereas if anything TNV's records have gotten more fucked-up sounding (in a good way) and they're very consciously going for a 90s lo-fi vibe .... that's all I wuz trying to say really

but they did jump back to making big studio records as soon as they got on Matador TVT

but yeah TNV certainly appear to be going for a very conscious lo-fi vibe

well of course they are! any idiot with a hundred dollar computer could make a "better" sounding record. but where is the fun in that?

love the new one so much. poppier AND grungier. win-win.

after many times through i still think it doesn't have the hooks-per-minute of paisley reich, but it's got plenty of hooks so i'm not complaining. "another day" is practically wistful.

Heh. Paste likes 'em. Paste is weird.

jeez, they're finally playing DC. . . .

Fri, June 20 Austin, TX Emo’s
Sat, June 21 Dallas, TX Club Dada
Sun, June 22 Memphis, TN Hi Tone
Mon, June 23 Atlanta, GA The Earl
Wed, June 25 Washington, DC Rock N Roll
Thur, June 26 Philadelphia, PA Johnny Brenda’s
Fri, June 27 New York, NY Whitney Museum
Sat, June 28 Providence, RI The Living Room
Sun, June 29 Boston, MA Great Scott
Mon, June 30 Montreal, QUE Divan Orange
Tues, July 01 Toronto, ONT Horseshoe Tavern
Sun, July 20 Chicago, IL Pitchfork Festival

the Whitney? lol

theyre playing dc same night as the sun city girls at black cat :(

i seen em in philly and chapel hill before though, so imma hit the SCG thing

umm...sun city girls are playing shows as a duo?

69 i will live blog it on my gchat so you don't miss a thing

umm...sun city girls are playing shows as a duo?

The Bishop bros are doing a tribute tour to their fallen comrade.

sometimes this sounds a lot like bee thousand, especially 'the wait.'

They wish

i'm sure i wrote on this thread that i didn't understand the point of this band. no age as well - what's the point in this tinny inaudible shit? sure, if it were punk or metal i'd appreciate the rawness, but this just hurts my ears something chronic!

If it's too raw, you're too old. Or something.

it IS punk, silly.

the point of this band is the tunes and the rawness

i'm pretty sure i've realized that nu-siltbreeze doesn't do it for me. neither do these dudes. i tried.

also, burying your tunes under shitty recording doesn't really make it something other than chirpy indie stuffs.

I saw No Age & Times New Viking live this week and while I thought No Age weren't up to much, TNV had plenty of tunes.

New Siltbreeze has been hit and miss for me so far. Can't make up my mind where TNV sit. The sound and the songs are OK, but I find the chicks and dude's vocals a little winsome. I ended up seeing them twice this week, and the second time, I realised during the last song (one of the first album tracks) that is was basically Roadrunner (twice). Sounded pretty f'kin great right then. And the chick was looking sehr hottt in a Mondrian print skirt thing. Schwing!

GOTT PUNCH, you don't even dig the Sapat record? That one stands out for me, in that it's less of a "weird punk" thing and more of a homage to classic Kraut moves.

I still haven't heard the Operazione Nafta record, though, and that one's supposed to also be pretty weird. Maybe I will listen to it today.

Sapat was cool, aye.

also, burying your tunes under shitty recording doesn't really make it something other than chirpy indie stuffs.

-- GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:04 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

I think this is my problem with it. It sounds like the crappy recording was done on purpose rather than through necessity.

^ this doesnt really bother me

i'd say that most all low-fi recordings of the last 20+ years have been done on purpose and not out of necessity

it's pretty fun to note how the early tnv records were all produced by mike rep, who is kind of king of lofi rock n roll in my mind.

was their matador record self-recorded or lovingly fucked with?

"chirpy"? I don't get that at all from them. they rock pretty hard live, where fideliry's less of an issue. yeah they're "catchy" but that's what makes it worth the effort to push through the static, they've got good tunes. (and after a while the static becomes part of the appeal.) they hit the same spot as GBV / early Pavement, for me.

fedeliry!

^^racist

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/VirtualContent/86770/20080221152539.jpg

ah, tinny! that's the adjective i'm looking for. ouch.

ouch = my ears

my head
whacha been doin to my head

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my head
whacha been doin to my head

^ love this 1

nu-silbreeze i dug a bunch: sapat, der tpk, time new viking, psych horseshit. it's pretty much the only new indie rock music i even listen to.

ex-cocaine record is pretty sweet

i like the records ok but when i've seen them live it's been nothing special.

i haven't played that one as much. and i didn't find it as memorable. i always forget what it even sounds like until i put it on. and then i forget all over again.

x-post

and i didn't buy the nobbq record or the factums one or the one ian mentioned. the nafta one.

re: tunefulness i get "Not High" stuck in my head all the time

i'm pretty sure i've realized that nu-siltbreeze doesn't do it for me. neither do these dudes. i tried.

the pink reason record was pretty good, sounded like a midwestern joy division covering the syd barrett songbook. sorta.

and that naked on the vague lp is freaking great.

oh yeah, pink reason! i liked that one too.

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I did write this. I mostly stand by it.

GOTT PUNCH, you don't even dig the Sapat record? That one stands out for me, in that it's less of a "weird punk" thing and more of a homage to classic Kraut moves.

ok, well, haven't heard that one. and pink reason was good. so maybe i was a little too hardline there. maybe i'm becoming a siltbreeze reactionary and i only wanna hear "phaser like a block of salt" or operation of the sonne over and over.

they hit the same spot as GBV / early Pavement, for me.

i never really had a "spot" for either of those bands, maybe that's my problem.

wau got this off of emusic a few weeks ago and put it on my portable, but uh is it just me or is it terribly LOUD?

I think I finally got it once I really figured out what they were singing at the end of "My Head"... even though it sounds way too much like black lips' "Dirty Hands" but whatever

this guys are so much better live than on record.
i liked how people who passed by shut their ears in the Siren show.
(amnd i hope that little kid with the annoyed face wont get too traumatic)

Yeah, they were pretty great at Siren. Talked to them a bit after their set too, and they were very cool, nice people as well.

this guys are so much better live than on record.

i've had exactly the opposite experience.

I'd like to attribute their improvement in the live arena to the fact that they are touring with my buddy Cooper doing sound for them now.

soundz like Superchunk

oh man. sapat. finally got it and i'm floatin

i like that their band is TAPAS spelled backwards.

rip it off perfect album

tempting

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probably will be a pretty good show, but i don't know how much energy i'll have after taking the metro north forth & back to connecticut for mothers day.

never realized morbz wished death upon me on this thread. wow. anyway this band still rules.

personally i find it endearing that morbs leaps to the defense of ylt.

Saw them twice this weekend. New songs are good!

new album end of this month

I did the vinyl pre-order on matador. comes with two free 7"s. pretty good deal if you don't already have the Stay Awake EP (I don't).

Do you get to choose two matador seven inches? or what? Really like "No Time No Hope." Looking forward to the record.

Before street date, Sept. 22nd, preorder Born Again Revisited and get the ultimate package of goodies from Times New Viking:

-the new single, Move to California, on 7"

-the epic Stay Awake EP, on 7"

-the Whitney poster from the band's 2008 performance

-a copy of Born Again Revisited, on your doorstep on release day

i like the new album. especially the parts where they kind of sound like the dead c for a second. early dead c. song-y dead c.

I've barely heard anything about the new disc. It was so quietly-released that, at first, I thought it was a collection of b-sides or early singles.

i like it pretty well, tho i admit after a few cursory listens i haven't gone back for more detailed appreciation. i definitely feel my enthusiasm waning, but i don't know if that reflects actual fall-off or just, they're kind of still doing the same thing and it's not as much fun the 4th times.

like, when they first signed to matador i was kind of afraid they'd somehow get cleaned up and made more presentable. but now i'm sort of wishing they would? i don't know. i think i want a darklands to go with their psychocandy.

yeah it's decent and i'm not upset about buying it but when i really want to listen to them i'd always go back to the first two records.

they should slow their output a bit cause i'm thinking some of the songs on the last two really shouldn't have made it through quality control.

Listened to the 7" EP that accompanied the new one, but wasn't impressed enough to buy it or the album. Will try again, but it all felt kinda redundant and none of the tunes stuck with me on the first pass (in sharp contrast to the 1st LP and Paisley Reich). If they want to tread water with the sound, they've got to keep upping their game, songwriting-wise, and I don't think they're doing that.

agreed

Listened to the 7" EP that accompanied the new one, but wasn't impressed enough to buy it or the album

"Move to California" is one of the better/catchier songs on the album imo so you probably made the right call

I like the new one but I will agree that there aren't any particular songs jumping out at me besides "No Time, No Hope."

I like it too but don't love it

I NEED MORE MONEY CUZ I NEED MORE DRUGS

Still LOVE this band, they are GREAT

feeling pretty pumped for the new album after hearing the two new songs on pitchfork. the obligatory "fuzzy band cleans up" album i guess but the new ones sound really focused and good.

really like "no room to live"

is that the one with the animated video? "fuck her tears" is a jam and a fantastic song name as well.

yeah NRTL is the first single. havent heard FHT yet!

Love this new album so much. I know its getting mixed reviews, but this is how I've always wanted them to sound (and much closer to how they come across live).

I just think that they write some of the smartest and funniest songs. Can't wait to pick this one up.

have almost picked this up twice in the last week or so. i do like TNV and loved "no room to live" when it dropped last year as a single. it's a lovely song and exactly the right direction for the band. otoh, i'd all but given up on them prior to that. still on board with dig yourself and paisley reich, but they subsequently fell into something of a rut, imo. while the basic sound remained the same (never my favorite thing about the band), the tunes that lived long enough to make their way through the hiss weren't doing it for me.

mixed reviews or not, i will eventually buy a copy. for whatever reason, i'm in their corner. i want to like what they do, and to see them do well.

nah dont buy it save the money & buy the new uv race & sic alps

or ~omg~ the new gg king!

was some talk itt BEST TIMES NEW VIKING ALBUM

its kind of a shame they failed to catch the bands w lo fi debuts clean up get slick haircuts and aim for the stars wave but its a bit lifeless. the male/female vocals & reminds me of circle pit bruise constellation from last year which is great and everybody should listen to

its kind of a shame they failed to catch the bands w lo fi debuts clean up get slick haircuts and aim for the stars wave

yeah, i felt this myself circa rip it off, TNV missing an opportunity to anticipate the next move. but maybe it's to their credit that they stuck to their guns.

do need that UV race LP...

im sayin

did u get my webmail btw?

um no, but i never check that box (dum of me). going to see...

oh hey, thanks, flops! dling...

i miss this band

it's kinda crazy in retrospect this band got signed to matador