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Treacle! Hidden gems! All this and more! And truly, the answer is RAM!

Poll Results

OptionVotes
1971: Ram 12
1980: McCartney II 8
1970: McCartney 5
2005: Chaos And Creation In The Backyard4
1974: Band On The Run 4
1999: Run Devil Run 3
2001: Driving Rain 2
1982: Tug Of War 1
1997: Flaming Pie 1
1993: Off The Ground 0
1989: Flowers In The Dirt 0
1986: Press To Play 0
1984: Give My Regards To Broad Street 0
1983: Pipes Of Peace 0
1971: Wild Life 0
1973: Red Rose Speedway 0
1979: Back To The Egg 0
1978: London Town 0
1976: Wings At The Speed Of Sound 0
1975: Venus And Mars 0


Davey D, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

if i could, i'd vote for II a hundred times.

jaxon, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

ALSO, I'D VOTE YOU OFF THE ISLAND FOR STARTING ANOTHER MOTHERFATHER POLL THREAD

jaxon, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

I love II and hate polls as well. It's been a confusing day.

Davey D, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

"Tug Of War" remains the correct answer, even though it was almost detronized in 2005.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

Ram all the way

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

detronized?

pisces, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

VOTE THE WORST

abanana, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

HI DERE

-- The Amazing Randy, Friday, April 20, 2007 6:22 PM

am0n, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

Boy, if Ram wins this poll...how times have changed!

Tim Ellison, Friday, 20 April 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

people hated it at the time because it was too close to sounding like a Beatles record without having the depth of one, but with hindsight... it's the only one that's close to sounding like a Beatles record

Ram by a fucking landslide

Milton Parker, Friday, 20 April 2007 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

I had never listened to Ram until this weekend while going through some old vinyl. It's been playing nonstop ever since, and the ukelele on Ram On is genius.

oscar, Friday, 20 April 2007 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

"without having the depth of one"

what kind of depth?

Tim Ellison, Friday, 20 April 2007 23:59 (eighteen years ago)

short answer, the depth added by the other three & martin. I love paul's songs on the white album, but if the white album were just paul etc. expectations were still sky high with ram, and when it sounded almost exactly like another beatles album, but with john & george's songs just missing -- people started waking up to the reality of the divorce and were too busy weepin' to get down to his great new record

Milton Parker, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:12 (eighteen years ago)

they also thought it was too cute or shallow

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:26 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, that was the real reason, right? plastic ono band and imagine and all things must pass weren't received like that.

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:33 (eighteen years ago)

I find the problem about McCartney's 70s output, althouh some it it (including "Ram") is great, is his lack of self editing and his exaggerated faith in his own production talent.

There may be shared opinions, but I feel that the form of pop McCartney stands for needs a somewhat polished production to work properly. A rough or minimalist production will leave you with sort of a neither fish nor flesh feeling - But this isn't rock - then why does he have a rock production?

Surely there were exceptions ("Band On The Run" and "Venus And Mars" were both produced in a great way, and they are also my favourite 70s Macca albums)

When "II" (ironically an ILM favourite) failed completely, McCartney realized he needed to bring in outside producers, which he did to excellent effect with George Martin on "Tug Of War", and later with a combination of Mitchell Froom and Trevor Horn/Stephen Lipson on "Flowers In The Dirt". Also, in retrospect it seems people dislike those two because of the production, for me it's the opposite way round. McCartney is a pop artist, his genre is what is nowadays called softrock, and good softrock needs a polished production, or what you might call "overproduction". Musically, he is best compared to Crowded House, Jellyfish, 10cc, ELO or Supertramp, all of which are known for a very polished sound. And that is what works best for McCartney too.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:35 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, disagree. I like McCartney and Wild Life. You can say it "isn't rock," but to me, it is.

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

How is it not?

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and I would doubt the direction of Tug of War was some reaction on Paul's part to a perceived failure of McCartney II (failure even though he had hits with Coming Up and Temporary Secretary?). Failure in whose eyes?

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, that was the real reason, right? plastic ono band and imagine and all things must pass weren't received like that.

well yeah. but neither lennon's or harrison's first solo albums sounded that much like the beatles, they'd already moved on -- so it wasn't as jarring as an album that sounded _almost_ like a beatles record... minus the others. with hindsight he wasn't any more cute or shallow than before, he just hadn't moved on quite yet, but now decades later I like that moment of him not-having-moved-on-from-being-beatle-paul yet to mccartney-the-super-entertainer.

I like a number of his later songs but there's no one album I can make it through, like at all, in fact a lot of it I almost wish I hadn't heard, it really hurts my feelings (I know we differs there good mr. tim)

Milton Parker, Saturday, 21 April 2007 02:06 (eighteen years ago)

how about the self titled Emitt Rhodes album?

jaxon, Saturday, 21 April 2007 02:20 (eighteen years ago)

emmit even

jaxon, Saturday, 21 April 2007 02:21 (eighteen years ago)

1971: Wild Life
1973: Red Rose Speedway
1974: Band On The Run
1975: Venus And Mars
1976: Wings At The Speed Of Sound
1978: London Town
1979: Back To The Egg

should be disqualified.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 21 April 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)

"Tug Of War" remains the correct answer, even though it was almost detronized in 2005.

Geir, your obsession with the idea that Tug of War is this overlooked masterpiece really has crossed into the bizarre.

Besides, if you're going to extol the virtues of McCartney's soft rock sound, you should credit London Town, which at least has the sense to marry that production with worthy material. Or "Arrow Through Me"...

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 April 2007 04:12 (eighteen years ago)

"Tug Of War" has better sound and a more detailed production than "London Town". "London Town" is Barry Manilow while "Tug Of War" is 10cc.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)

I couldn't disagree with Geir more. What I like about early Macca is the tossed-off recorded in the bedroom feel of it. Yes, it has filler and song fragments scattered throughout each release, but that is what makes them different than most Beatles recordings except perhaps Abbey Road. And while I do see Milton's point about Harrison and Lennon moving on production-wise, they used Phil Spector after all, Macca went for a recording style that was more casual and naturalistic than most Beatles albums. Because his songs had begun moving in that direction while still in the band, you could argue that McCartney had moved on from the Beatles sound earlier than any of the others. I’d go so far as to even claim the he invented lo-fi, Elephant 6 bedroom pop with his first solo record –McCartney. While Ram, if it had been released by anyone else, would be regarded as a slice of wonderful, but bizarre pop. Monkberry Moon Delight anyone.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 21 April 2007 12:02 (eighteen years ago)

McCartney is a pop artist, his genre is what is nowadays called softrock, and good softrock needs a polished production, or what you might call "overproduction".

Yeah, I can't agree with Geir either...Don't pidgeon-hole Macca in soft-rock, he's able (or was able) to do almost everything. The problem is that he seems to have lost the confidence to experiment playfully.

Bob Six, Saturday, 21 April 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

If this thread is going to be all about 70s albums, I'll throw in my vote for Venus and Mars (only Paul's songs though--Joe English bah!). But I think the best by miles is Run Devil Run. Mostly covers, but Paul hasn't sounded this intense since the Beatles' Little Richard covers. It was the first record he made after Linda died, and you can feel the pain, and his desire to overcome it, on just about every track.

AKA Mr. Jaq, Saturday, 21 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

The second Fireman album Rushes is a favourite of mine.

Bob Six, Saturday, 21 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

A few thoughts:

1. There's a difference between having the production of 10cc and a GUY from 10cc.

2. London Town is as diverse a record as Macca ever recorded, underrated and almost disarmingly unforced.

3. Agreed -- there's really something to be said for the way Macca approached his first post-Beatles records. The E6 comment is spot on, tho I'd argue it's channeled via Emmit Rhodes in that it's the production, not the songwriting, that sounds like Macca.

Also, just throwing this out there: Red Rose Speedway. Like Ram, it's the fusion of the early homemade style and his more grandiose aspirations. But unlike the former, the gap between the ambitions of the sound/arrangement/production and the songwriting is palpable. It's likely why the likes of Xgau had so many problems with it upon its release, but in retrospect, it's exactly what makes it so daring and interesting...

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

1. There's a difference between having the production of 10cc and a GUY from 10cc.

Except when that guy provides backing vocals, on "The Pound Is Sinking", the result sounds a lot like 10cc.

And I don't see this homemade approach of his early solo albums as anything that could be said about his late Beatles style. Surely some of the stuff on "The White Album", maybe. Possibly also his "Let It Be" contributions before Phil Spector added all the grandeur. But on "Abbey Road", McCartney's contributions are the most polished of all, and the most polished The Beatles ever made. And after all, that was the last album they ever recorded.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, you're saying you can't see the homemade approach to his late Beatles approach except for the fact that you do see it on two of the three albums?

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

the homemade approach to his late Beatles approach material

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

Not on the last they recorded. In the case of The White Album and Let It Be, I see them as nothing else but the worst two Beatles albums, and obvious examples of how badly they performed when they didn't enjoy what they were doing. On "Abbey Road", they knew this was the last thing they did, they agreed to keep it together and work properly to make it a great album, and the result was a lot more satisfactory. And a lot more polished-sounding and "finished".

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

There's a tendency in modernist art to something being "unfinished." You are advocating classicism.

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

I despise modern art.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

"how badly they performed" on the white album? I don't hear it. Yes, they probably had more interpersonal strife during those sessions than they did with Abbey Road. But remember that John didn't like side two of Abbey Road.

Abbey Road, for me, is Paul taking his first steps toward his '70s pop sound that found fruition, ultimately, in GLAM. There is no vision for the production of John's songs and George's songs on that album and they took different and more radical steps in working with Spector on their subsequent solo albums.

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

But remember that John didn't like side two of Abbey Road.

A sense of quality at the time. John Lennon lost all sense of quality after "I Am The Walrus" (his last masterpiece) and didn't quite regain it until after his "housewife" periode in the late 70s.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

I understand that you like certain things about McCartney, but you present it as though the things you like in him define him and they don't (i.e., "McCartney is pop," "a McCartney record should have glossy pop production"). If you don't think he's a modernist, I'd suggest taking a look at his paintings or reading Barry Miles' book.

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

I agree completely, but spare yourself the paintings.

Bob Six, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

Oh Geirpaws!!! Well, I shouldn't be surprised that Geir doesn't like Plastic Ono Band.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

spare yourself the paintings.

Why? Here's one called "Bowie Spewing":

http://www.siwikultur.de/pmc/english/bbspew.htm

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

"The Queen after her first cigarette":

http://www.siwikultur.de/pmc/indexb.htm

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Wrong link. Here's the one:

http://www.siwikultur.de/pmc/english/bqueen1.htm

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

In popular music, as opposed to painting, classisism still exists and is still respected.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

"Monkberry Moon Delight" is my favorite Paul solo track.

London Town is an unjustly overlooked classic. "Cafe on the Left Bank?" "I've Had Enough?" "Cuff Link?" Sheer genius.

Red Rose Speedway also deserves another look; it has the daftest combination of sophisticated songwriting and a tossed-off feel that I've ever heard. It disorients me. The closing medley is one of his finest moments - someone mentioned on another thread that it is an obvious antecedent to Quadrophenia and I couldn't agree more..

Davey D, Sunday, 22 April 2007 10:03 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and has anybody heard Thrillington? Such a guilty, delicious pleasure...

Davey D, Sunday, 22 April 2007 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

Thrillington is really lovely and really points up just how richly detailed Ram is. As someone who loves almost all of the albums open to the poll, I don't think I could vote for any one, but Ram certainly has the edge of the most gestures and textures per square minute of any McCartney record. Glad to see Red Rose Speedway getting some love, though - it's been growing on me over the last few years. Even if "Loup (First Indian On The Moon)" will always be basically lousy, it's a fun kind of lousy, and then you have just utter gems like "Single Pigeon" in there... It was originally intended to be a double album, wasn't it? One trembles to imagine.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

That was a really cool sounding band with Henry McCullough. The good tracks on that album, like "Big Barn Bed" and "Get on the Right Thing" are really, really good! (And, yeah, Dr. Casino, "Single Pigeon" is a beauty.)

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

"Little Lamb Dragonfly," people.

Davey D, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

I copied "Arrow Through Me" onto my iPod for my Seattle trip this weekend (I have Matthew Weiner to thank for teaching me to love it).

I continue to rep for the increasingly bizarre Press To Play (it gets weirder the longer I listen, the older I get, and the more Wings records I acquire).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

I copied "Arrow Through Me" onto my iPod for my Seattle trip this weekend (I have Matthew Weiner to thank for teaching me to love it).

I continue to rep for the increasingly bizarre Press To Play (it gets weirder the longer I listen, the older I get, and the more Wings records I acquire).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

Twin Freaks!

Mark G, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:19 (eighteen years ago)

Huh, thought I posted about this earlier....maybe it ended up on some poor other thread. Anyway: Love "Dragonfly," can't take "Little Lamb" under any circumstances. (See also the vast superiority of "Love Awake" over "Winter Rose"; "Good Times Coming" over "Feel The Sun," etc.)

Yes, Twin Freaks!

I keep giving Press To Play more chances, and certain parts of it keep growing on me, while others (mainly, the self-consciously "rockin'" moments) just sit there on the platter. Would love to swap out those numbers for some of the odder things McCartney recorded and never released in the mid-80s, eg "Love Come Tumbling Down," "Return To Pepperland," "Lindiana" etc... all of which are on my to-do list for my own personal two-disc McCartney covers project (two songs down! twenty-four to go!), to culminate, of course, in "Power Cut"...

Doctor Casino, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)

I understand that P-Mac's next solo record has a big song suite

Dominique, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:35 (eighteen years ago)

and it's a Starbucks release!

Mark G, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

More info, Dom?

Davey D, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

I voted for Driving Rain, I just find it his most emotional and emotionally satisfying work.

Billy Dods, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

Into it!

Davey D, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, that's pretty good. If it had shown up on the last XTC record, I'd probably be saying that Andy Partridge's McCartneyisms are getting out of hand, but when McCartney's McCartneyisms (love that he's back into double tracking his vox) are good, I like them.

Dominique, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

Who did he record the album with? That really feels like a treading water song to me, I'm sorry to say. Someone should play him the new of Montreal and Jennifer Gentle (the one coming out this summer on Sub Pop) albums and then he could just go at it.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

i can't believe he has another solo album already; when did he have the time to do it with his touring and divorce?

akm, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds to me more like Paul McCartney's Partridgisms. Not that it's a bad idea though, sounds like one of his better solo singles to me.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 07:32 (eighteen years ago)

Who did he record the album with?

It was produced by David Kahne who did Driving Rain, which for me doesn't bode well, not an album I've ever got into. Over long and a bit dull. On the other hand, that's the second time I've heard that single and it's sounding pretty good.

cheasyweasel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

"From a Lover To a Friend" is the only song on DR that really affects me -- but it really affects me...

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 11:11 (eighteen years ago)

"Driving Rain" is a very patchy album, but I don't feel like putting down the entire album. "From a Lover To a Friend" is great, and there's also the title track, which is among his better uptempo pop songs.

Not among his best solo albums though.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

II you fules.

jim, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Which one has Temporary Secretary?

filthy dylan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Because, that one.

filthy dylan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

II does. Driving Rain is pretty good.

akm, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

or it is if you turn it off before "freedom" comes on

akm, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

The new album's artwork is not very rad.

Davey D, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:18 (eighteen years ago)

I R corny indie fuXor -- i voted for mccartney II mostly on the strength of "coming up."

Eisbaer, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:18 (eighteen years ago)

Results!

Davey D, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

Ram lol.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

that seems about right -- in any case, top 5 are the ones I still have

Dominique, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

My vote for Press to Play wasn't tabulated. Revulsion?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

I'm surprised Wild Life got nothing. It's actually pretty good - much better than II anyway.

everything, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

Why are you lol-ing, Alfred?

I like Wild Life, too, but it's understandable, I suppose, that no one would choose it as favorite. The only one on the list of zeroes I might have expected somebody to vote for is Venus and Mars.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Five votes for the first album is interesting.

Tim Ellison, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

I went through a period a couple of years ago where I was listening to that first record every day. It's one of those records where I can't honestly say it's great, but the mood it captures (or at least helped me prolong) is really nice.

Dominique, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

Geir totally wrong as usual via presentation of personal prejudices as indisputable truisms... and Ram deserved to win.

Also McCartney likes to rock, and is/was good at it. The whole reason John wanted him to join the Beatles was cuz he could do the Little Richard shout for chrissakes

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

I'm glad that II has become something of a lost classic. The general critical line on it is pretty bleak, which I've never understood.

Davey D, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

Flowers in the Dirt deserved a vote or two; it's much better than Flaming Pie and Tug of War anyway.

DavidM, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

Better than Flaming Pie for sure... not Tug of War though!

Davey D, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

anyone heard the McGear record? very very good. (shhh... it's actually paul's brother)

jaxon, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

back to the egg deserved a vote

akm, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

"Flowers In The Dirt" might have deserved a lot of votes, but not mine. "Tug Of War" is even better.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

(instead, it should have gotten all the votes of "McCartney II", which is rubbish - "Waterfalls" is the only good song on that album")

Geir Hongro, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

Tomorrow on Wild Life is great.

leavethecapital, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

jesus, geir, what about "one of these days"? you have to give him that.

akm, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

Geir's website: WWW.ITSNOTUGOFWAR.CO.UK

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 28 April 2007 03:04 (eighteen years ago)

fantastic interview with him in UNCUT this month all about WINGS and the 70-82 solo era. never heard him talk retrospectively about all that stuff before, really fascinating. he genuinely almost got killed making BAND ON THE RUN by all accounts.

pisces, Saturday, 28 April 2007 03:34 (eighteen years ago)

Link?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 28 April 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

anyone heard the McGear record? very very good. (shhh... it's actually paul's brother)

jaxon, Saturday, 28 April 2007 05:28 (eighteen years ago)

relistened to venus and mars this morning. nope, still terrible (title track aside)

akm, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

email from macca re: new album. most illuminating bit: "I know people are going to look at some of the songs and interpret them in different ways but this has always been the case." ie: "YES THESE SONGS REALLY ARE SLAGGING OFF THAT CRAZY BITCH"

Memory Almost Full out Monday June 4th 2007
By Paul McCartney

I actually started this album, Memory Almost Full, before my last album Chaos And Creation In The Backyard (released September 2005). The first recording session was back in the autumn of 2003 at Abbey Road with my touring band and producer David Kahne. I was right in the middle of it when I began talking with Nigel Godrich about a brand new project (which became Chaos And Creation In The Backyard).

When I was just finishing up everything concerned with Chaos and had just got the Grammy nominations (2006) I realised I had this album to go back to and finish off. So I got it out to listen to it again, wondering if I would enjoy it, but actually I really loved it. All I did at first was just listen to a couple of things and then I began to think, 'OK, I like that track - now, what is wrong with it?' And it might be something like a drum sound, so then I would re-drum and see where we would get to.

I took it from there and built it up. I went through, track by track, making changes as I went along. I fixed things I wasn't too keen on and it just evolved from there. Without me knowing, or really trying, it started to get its own theme, a sort of thread that holds it all together. So I suppose it's about half new stuff and half old stuff from 2003.

In places it's a very personal record and a lot of it is retrospective, drawing from memory, like memories from being a kid, from Liverpool and from summers gone. The album is evocative, emotional, rocking, but I can't really sum it up in one sentence.

There is a medley of 5 songs towards the end and that was purposefully retrospective. I thought this might be because I'm at this point in my life, but then I think about the times I was writing with John and a lot of that was also looking back. It's like me with 'Penny Lane' and 'Eleanor Rigby' - I'm still up to the same tricks!
I know people are going to look at some of the songs and interpret them in different ways but this has always been the case. The thing is that I love writing songs, so I just write and write. I never really get to a point where I start thinking I'm going to write about specific subjects. Inevitably though, what I am thinking is going to find its way into what I'm doing.

The opening track of the album is 'Dance Tonight'. I recently got myself a mandolin and I was just playing about with it and came up with the basis of this track. A couple of weeks ago we made the video, which was great fun. It's directed by Michel Gondry (Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind) and stars Natalie Portman and Mackenzie Crook. I'm not going to give the plot away. You'll have to go and watch it for yourself, but we had a good time doing it.

The album title came after I had finished everything. For me, that's when they normally come, with the exception of maybe Sgt. Peppers, otherwise I don't think I have ever made an album with The Beatles, Wings or solo where I have thought of a title and a concept. I was thinking about what would sum the whole thing up and 'Memory Almost Full' sprung to mind. It's a phrase that seemed to embrace modern life; in modern life our brains can get a bit overloaded. I realised I had also seen it come up on my phone a few times. When I started bouncing the idea round with some friends they nearly all got different meanings out of it, but they all said they loved it. So the feedback helped solidify the title.

After completing the album I then started thinking about the album artwork and how I'd want it to look. I really wanted to make the CD a desirable object. Something that I know I'd want to pick up from the shelf, something that would make people curious. I hope our final concept has done that. The album sleeve itself includes an etching by a friend of mine, Humphrey Ocean. As with the album lyrics, I'm looking forward to seeing how people might interpret the artwork.

Currently I'm just starting out on the promo trail and beginning to get the first bits of feedback about the album and so far so good! It's interesting now as I'm getting to hear what other people are making of the songs and what their feelings are. I'm also talking about the album myself and I'm really enjoying the discovery process.

I really enjoyed making this album with David Kahne and I'm proud of all the songs. We had a great time. I hope that the fun we had will communicate itself to the people who are going to listen to it.

All the best,
Paul McCartney, April 2007

akm, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Found a short clip of "Dance Tonight" on youtube and it's a lot better than that other leaked song. I might actually end up getting this record (last Paul purchase: Run Devil Run, although Blount hooked me up with Chaos and I didn't mind it at all).

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

seven years pass...

Tug of War is alright, you know?

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 16 February 2015 16:08 (ten years ago)

I think the very first solo album is my favorite. Ram is really amazing and all and has some nice tricks but also has a few parts that can really grate on your ears if you are not in the mood. McCartney II is the same way -- Temporary Secretary is forever teetering on the edge of being really annoying. First album is just perfect. The songs never go on too long, nothing is overly produced. You don't really get the feeling that Paul is dancing for you, and it is the most natural thing he's ever done.

I sort of wish Paul had never started Wings and just spent the 70s making home DIY records with Linda.

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Has There Been Any Discussion Of 'Hope For The Future'

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 07:15 (ten years ago)

xpost Much as McCartney II has some great aesthetic moments for some reason I don't think I've ever made it all the way through the whole thing in one sitting. Ram is a big fave in my house.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 11:17 (ten years ago)

excellent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_kkiIXdkuI

piscesx, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 13:11 (ten years ago)

Picked up the Wings at the Speed of Sound reissue and it's not nearly as bad as its reputation. Let'em In, The Note You Never Wrote, Warm and Beautiful, Beware My Love, and Silly Love Songs are all great tunes. Much better than Venus & Mars.

DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 13:51 (ten years ago)

TOW is really damn uneven; some of the fun sounds forced, even musically. But it's tight. It's the next reissue, no?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 14:14 (ten years ago)

Tug of War and Pipes of Peace were the upcoming albums in the insert of the latest reissues, but I believe Paul mentioned in an interview around that time that they may not necessarily be next. There's still no Wild Life reissue.

DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 16:27 (ten years ago)

The Family Way (soundtrack for 1966 film McC scored) is on Spotify - never heard it before today. It's not bad!

Darin, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:29 (ten years ago)

explanation for its uneveness here! http://www.beatlesbible.com/people/paul-mccartney/albums/tug-of-war/

mad detailed that piece. seems it was recorded as a double album at first; in several studios over more than a year in different countries with multiple session guys. they had 2 different drummers (Ringo! Steve Gadd!), Denny Laine was first 'in' then 'out', both Stevie Wonder AND Micheal Jackson worked on tracks for it, somehow the fella from 10CC gets involved, George Martin ends up producing, Wings officially announce a split, Lennon gets shot in the middle of it all.. as chaotic in its own way as the Band On The Run sessions.

piscesx, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:41 (ten years ago)

Several of those tunes ended up on Pipes of Peace.

DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:45 (ten years ago)

tell you what aside from Say Say Say, Pipes Of Peace sucks so bad. according to that piece George Martin cherry picked the best tracks for Tug Of War and the rest went on ..Broad Street and Pipes..

piscesx, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:53 (ten years ago)

boring question: does anyone know who played guitar on 'The Man'?

(Pipes Of Peace is maybe a bit more stylistically homogeneous than Tug of War but I think it's just as good, I don't understand this consensus that it was a massive decline)

soref, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:39 (ten years ago)

My favourite bit in Tug Of War is that spooky little 30 second track. wish it had been longer.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:52 (ten years ago)

I'm listening to TOW now for maybe the first time in 15 years and its actually really great. remarkably consistent compared to how I remember it, especially compared to a lot of other nonsense he was capable.

so other than MC2, BOTR, TOW and Ram, what else shpuld I definitely check out?

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:08 (ten years ago)

for two artists whose careers were getting less and less relevant, What's That You're Doing sounds incredibly vital and funky.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:20 (ten years ago)

Those are the top tier, but CW is, if you like Ram you might dig aspects of Red Rose Speedway (or, considerably more ramshackle and halfassed, Wild Life), and if you like BOTR you'll probably enjoy Venus and Mars. ILM also has an unusually strong fanbase for Back to the Egg (or at least "Arrow Through Me"). First self-titled is a throwaway but charming and underrated.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:21 (ten years ago)

Nothing really succeds TOW, though. Flowers in the Dirt has some great tunes and little that's cringeworthy, but it's not as full-sounding or chockablock with 'moments' and bits, which are really what keep me coming back to this dude. Sometime I guess I really should check out his last, like, four albums.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:26 (ten years ago)

*alfred barges into thread to talk about press to play*

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:32 (ten years ago)

Cheers DC.

One of the only gripes I have with ToW, and later McCartney in general, are his lyrics. It's great that every song is about something. But there are so many songs let down by clunky or embarrassing lines here and there. Here Today, for example, just never rings quite as affecting as it ought to thanks to this.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:33 (ten years ago)

if he'd replaced Angry with Write Away, Press to Play would be just about perfect

soref, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:36 (ten years ago)

I tried sitting through Run Devil Run earlier today, but just couldn't do it.

Darin, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:38 (ten years ago)

"Press" is his best eighties single. Or "Take It Away."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:12 (ten years ago)

I rep for RDR but it's definitely one where context/narrative give inflection and layers to certain tracks that would otherwise just be ho-hum dad-band performances.

The lyrical clunk factor IMO starts rising precipitously after ToW. I don't know if he was smoking less weed or what, but the filler lyrics get less weird or interesting, most particularly where he *tries* to be weird and interesting. His straightforward lyrics on the other hand clearly improve when time and effort are put in (or when he has good collaborators) and he doesn't rationalize it to himself that going with the first crappy line he thinks of makes it spontaneous and Beatles-y.

Best 80s single, I'd have to say ''No More Lonely Nights'' or ''Say Say Say.''

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:16 (ten years ago)

Press
Take It Away
No More Lonely Nights
This One
My Brave Face
Say Say Say

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:20 (ten years ago)

Waterfalls is my favourite 80s single. I like his waistcoat in the video as well

https://40.media.tumblr.com/7ed83edcf76ac9b09b9fa6fcf8b75c75/tumblr_naorvrfARv1r5cmgfo1_500.jpg

soref, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:27 (ten years ago)

I always forget how hairy his arms are

soref, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:39 (ten years ago)

I forget how obnoxious his smile is.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:42 (ten years ago)

My Brave Face is great. The sound/production kinda distracts for me, but it's a heck of a song, deserved to be bigger.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:35 (ten years ago)

FITD was my fist McCartney album, so I'm biased. It's not great or essential but "This One," "Figure of Eight," "We Got Married," "Put It There," and "My Brave Face" are worth downloading.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:41 (ten years ago)

"Figure of Eight" has unexpected chordal shifts; it reminds me a little of the forgotten "Stranglehold," off PTP.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:42 (ten years ago)

I've never listened to Tug Of War and was kind of curious but then I remember that was the album with Ebony and Ivory on it and I just can't

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:49 (ten years ago)

Easy to skip. I have for 19 years. The other Wondersong is far better.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:52 (ten years ago)

btw the Stewart-Linda-McCartney harmonies that conclude "Take It Away" while those horns keep sassing might be his greatest eighties moment.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:53 (ten years ago)

I just realized that I've heard none of these LPs in their entirety.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 February 2015 00:45 (ten years ago)

THIS used to be on YouTube in pieces here and there but seems some genius and friend to humanity has stuck the whole damn feature length thing up in full.
really, SERIOUSLY check this out if you haven't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8oDheFbK-k

piscesx, Thursday, 19 February 2015 01:34 (ten years ago)

I remember thinking about his recent lyric writing in relation to the poetry collection Blackbird that, I think, predates the Driving Rain album a little bit. I think he's really honed in on a new lyrical artistry that can be fairly serious in subject matter.

timellison, Thursday, 19 February 2015 02:02 (ten years ago)

Oh, Alfred, I'm totally on board with FITD (especially with bonus tracks), just felt in the context of recommending things to someone who digs ToW, it should be noted that it's not quite the same the same kind of thing. Less.... warm, and less varied in sounds/styles. I should pull it out again, it's probably been a decade or more.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 February 2015 02:13 (ten years ago)

haven't heard FITD in 25 years. hm.

piscesx, Thursday, 19 February 2015 03:03 (ten years ago)

Suffers from marketplace anxiety. Four producers, etc.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 February 2015 03:06 (ten years ago)

Flowers In The Dirt is without a doubt my favourite McCartney album of the '80s. Tug Of War I think could have been improved by having a couple of its tracks substituted for Pipes Of Peace tracks, IMO: I would have thrown 'Ballroom Dancing' off immediately and included 'Pipes Of Peace', 'So Bad' or 'Say Say Say'.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 19 February 2015 15:44 (ten years ago)

btw the Stewart-Linda-McCartney harmonies that conclude "Take It Away" while those horns keep sassing might be his greatest eighties moment.

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree, it's such a great musical moment and my favourite part of the track!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 19 February 2015 15:45 (ten years ago)

I would have thrown 'Ballroom Dancing' off immediately

;_;

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 February 2015 15:48 (ten years ago)

It's corny as all hell, though, even by McCartney's standards! That and 'Average Person' (from Pipes of Peace) for me is just like... uh, no!!!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 19 February 2015 15:51 (ten years ago)

Oh, no, totally corny, and the country accent he puts onto "BAWL-ruuuM" is ridiculous, but I'm a sucker for jaunty-tuned, credibility-free McCartney. I would never rate it above "Say Say Say" mind you, but it's part of the 'feel' of the album for me.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 February 2015 15:57 (ten years ago)

Ballroom Dancing and Ebony & Ivory def let down Tug of War.

I, (dog latin), Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:18 (ten years ago)

"Get It" was always the biggest dud for me, but at least it's short. Compared to the equivalent duets on other records (especially the two endless ones on "Flaming Pie") that's pretty tolerable.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:20 (ten years ago)

Oh yeah, Get It is kind of bad, although I like the way Carl Perkins' laugh segues so eerily into Be What You See

I, (dog latin), Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:25 (ten years ago)

I'm of the mindset that any missing patches in ToW should have been taken up with filled-out recordings of some of the late, weird Wings stuff that never saw the light of day, like "Boil Crisis" or "Robber's Ball." Would have made it way less of a classicist return-to-George-Martin-form record, and maybe kind of a mess, but I like that in a McCartney album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6kHDR7ysD0

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:28 (ten years ago)

'Get It' isn't one of my favourites, but yeah I'll easily take it over the Steve Miller track on Flaming Pie.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:26 (ten years ago)

Marcello: http://nobilliards.blogspot.com/2013/07/paul-mccartney-tug-of-war.html

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:30 (ten years ago)

two weeks pass...

It's not just a lovin' machine
It doesn't work out
If you don't work at it

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 16:43 (ten years ago)

Listening to Flowers in the Dirt straight through for the first time in ages. The songwriting's really solid, definitely at least Tug of War level. Occasionally let down by the production or performance choices. First three tracks promise a classic but the middle half of the record kinda points up all its strengths and weaknesses. "Put It There" is a wonderful melody and sentiment - doesn't quite need the strings and definitely doesn't need Macca's whispery/"sincere" delivery. "Figure of Eight" and "This One," like a lot of his midtempo 'rockers' from here on out sounds like a wannabe Jeff Lynne production and would have benefited from a straightforward live-band rock sound or maybe even a "new country" approach which might have made a more natural bridge between his throwback rockabilly instincts and the turn of the '90s.

The drums were probably doomed to sound bottled from the beginning, just given the stable of people that would possibly be on McCartney's radar - but a "Cherry Bomb" or "Mixed Emotions" sound would have really suited McCartney and he never seemed to be able to find it. Always a little too clean and precise. "This One" in particular feels like it has the guts of a hit song, lame title aside. Note the filler outro ("some kinda solo or instrumental thing maybe will go here?").

"That Day Is Done" is such a legit kooky idea - ballad from the perspective of a corpse + Fats Domino "prom under the sea" number. Good idea, good songs, doesn't quite work on record. Maybe this one really should have been more of a 50s pastiche. The record kinda falls off after that - "How Many People" is just disposable, "Motor of Love" can't get around its horrid title and wretched Yamaha soft rock ballad sound. It's also a few BPM too slow to let the melody shine. And it's six minutes long! I would probably have a much more negative opinion of this album if I hadn't thought of it as ending with "Ou Est Le Soleil," which is stupid but at least has some kind of energy and the hint of drama on the horizon. All three of the other bonus cuts ("Back On My Feet," "Loveliest Thing" and "Flying To My Home") should have been swapped onto the album, maybe with some re-thinks (wtf is with Paul's singing on the last of those?). "Loveliest Thing" is such an album closer, I mean come on.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:06 (ten years ago)

six months pass...

new remix of Tug.. is just pointless IMO. whole thing sounds like they just added a bit of reverb here or there. it's on Spotify FYI.

piscesx, Saturday, 3 October 2015 13:52 (ten years ago)

Love "This One," despite the outro.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 October 2015 13:55 (ten years ago)

Me too - Flowers In The Dirt, too, is undoubtedly one of my favourite McCartney solo records.

Turrican, Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:05 (ten years ago)

There was some discussion of the Tug of War project on the Pipes of Peace/Press to Play thread. (OK, it was just me reviving it every couple of weeks plus Turrican posting.) We were talking about the amount of treble on the remastered single edit of "Take It Away." My favorite track on the album is "The Pound Is Sinking," so I listened to that. Can't A/B it currently, but I find the amount of treble on it to be causing me enough listening fatigue that I'm not so inspired to listen to other tracks.

Listened on headphones so I'll try it on the stereo and I think I'm going to see what I think of the title track, too.

timellison, Saturday, 3 October 2015 22:47 (ten years ago)

I think that Be What You See/Dress Me Up As A Robber might be my favourite solo McCartney track, the lurch in quality from from the penultimate to the final track on this album is really something.

soref, Saturday, 3 October 2015 23:04 (ten years ago)

is there anybody who will defend Ebony And Ivory? I get the impression that it was treated as a punchline pretty much from the moment it was released? I guess it might work better if McCartney had rewritten it as one of his woolly, non-specific 'why can't we all get along' type songs rather than trying to make it 'about' racism, but even then I thing that Ebony And Ivory would be unsalvageable and I find some of his songs in that vein kind of poignant despite/because of their sentimentality. did McCartney ever write anything else quite so cloying? it gave us the some funny piss-takes, I suppose, the snl sketch with Eddie Murphy and Joe Piscopo, the scene from Everybody Hates Chris

soref, Saturday, 3 October 2015 23:24 (ten years ago)

did McCartney ever write anything else quite so cloying?

"My Love." Lots of early Wings. "The Long and Winding Road" in any version.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 October 2015 23:27 (ten years ago)

I think in a lot of his woolly sentimental songs there is this anxiety and desperation just below the surface which makes them interesting and compelling, there is this dread that something awful will happen that seems to be motivating the desire for ppl to patch thins up/commit to one another etc, something like 'Waterfalls' kind of brings this out and makes it explicit, but it seems to have been more or less smoothed out in Ebony And Ivory

soref, Saturday, 3 October 2015 23:34 (ten years ago)

My Love." Lots of early Wings. "The Long and Winding Road" in any version.

aw, I like all of those, though

soref, Saturday, 3 October 2015 23:34 (ten years ago)

and so may songs about being left, or full of these obsessive assertions that he won't leave someone, or that they won't leave him, I know this is kind of par for the course wrt popular songs, but it seems to be particularly pronounced with McCartney

soref, Saturday, 3 October 2015 23:39 (ten years ago)

Macca is the king of that everyone-bought-it-but-then-everyone-claimed-to-hate-it thing what with Mull.. and ..Ivory and the Frog thing which i swear everyone liked when it was the supporting feature at the Broad Street showings.

piscesx, Saturday, 3 October 2015 23:50 (ten years ago)

"Dress Me up as a Robber" sounds pretty nice. I don't remember the percussion sounding so crisp and live.

timellison, Sunday, 4 October 2015 00:31 (ten years ago)

so...what's next -- London Town and Red Rose Speedway?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 October 2015 00:44 (ten years ago)

it gave us the some funny piss-takes, I suppose, the snl sketch with Eddie Murphy and Joe Piscopo, the scene from Everybody Hates Chris

also KRS One made pretty good use of it iirc

Wimmels, Sunday, 4 October 2015 01:00 (ten years ago)

Ha, the demo of "Ebony and Ivory" is incomplete, but you can totally imagine it as a McCartney II track.

timellison, Monday, 5 October 2015 02:27 (ten years ago)

Man. Basically everything he did in the 1980s would have been better as a McCartney II demo, all hesitant and warm and gentle. It doesn't make "Ebony and Ivory" great, but it at least makes it cozy. The double-disc McCartney II with all the additional fragmentary unfinished ideas is really great too.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Monday, 5 October 2015 02:33 (ten years ago)

What about the weird parts of the video where McCartney dances around with a Stevie Wonder stunt double?

http://i.imgur.com/XEqsPpJ.gif

pplains, Monday, 5 October 2015 02:56 (ten years ago)

Which ones supposed to be macca?

Mark G, Monday, 5 October 2015 06:50 (ten years ago)

Honestly, it goes by so fast in the video, I just assumed the shorter guy.

But now, yes, I notice he's got a pointy beard and wearing a hat...

pplains, Monday, 5 October 2015 13:29 (ten years ago)

they should get together with the dancing John Lennon silhouette from the Too Late for Goodbyes video

soref, Monday, 5 October 2015 13:37 (ten years ago)

Course, now that I think about it...

http://i.imgur.com/MqdZM5v.jpg

pplains, Monday, 5 October 2015 13:40 (ten years ago)

Pipes of Peace demo tracks "It's Not On" and "Simple as That" have to be heard!

timellison, Sunday, 18 October 2015 04:55 (ten years ago)

Looking forward to hearing these. Surprised how much I like the new mix of Say Say Say.

Not much to add here but think "Mr Bellamy" from MAF is a great, spooky underrated track with a lovely melody. Reminds me of a slightly less twee Uncle Albert.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 18 October 2015 16:34 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

so obsessed with "Arrow Through Me" lately. what else is in this vein besides some of McCartney II? Is there more funky Wings??

Captain Maximus, Saturday, 21 November 2015 02:20 (ten years ago)

Kinda no, sadly. At least, that's often sort of a standout Wings track for people who don't really dig Wings. :-/

Frump 'n' Dump (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:26 (ten years ago)

There's an "Urban Adult Contemporary" station here that'll slip "Arrow" in there between Cameo and Chaka Khan.

pplains, Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:36 (ten years ago)

so obsessed with "Arrow Through Me" lately. what else is in this vein besides some of McCartney II? Is there more funky Wings??

― Captain Maximus, Friday, November 20, 2015 9:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kinda no, sadly. At least, that's often sort of a standout Wings track for people who don't really dig Wings. :-/

― Frump 'n' Dump (Doctor Casino),

Was this always the case? When a friend and I discovered it about a decade ago we wondered when a hip hop act would sample it. It took Erykah Badu.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:37 (ten years ago)

'Write Away' from 1985 has a similar sort of feel imo

https://youtu.be/hsRdM8iBHh0

and 'Dress Me Up As A Robber' from Tug Of War which is in more of a McCartney II/Secret Friend style

https://youtu.be/f_kkiIXdkuI

soref, Saturday, 21 November 2015 12:09 (ten years ago)

"Was this always the case?" - Hrm, I dunno? I'm going mainly on ILM posts tbh though I feel like I've seen it get shoutouts elsewhere or show up in playlists or whatever.

Frump 'n' Dump (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 21 November 2015 15:15 (ten years ago)

u guys hear this??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq5KAdWJiWY

there's a clever little tasty surprise waiting if not

piscesx, Monday, 23 November 2015 14:59 (ten years ago)

Ha. Wasn't expecting Paul to go that far with a "Say Say Say (Naked)".

pplains, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:59 (ten years ago)

five years pass...

(this post from 2009 was in the "I hate Paul McCartney so much." thread but it didn't seem appropriate to post what I was about to say there)

A friend of mine was in the same NYC studio while Paul was putting together some of "Memory Almost Full" and his story is Paul was super nice and asked him if he wanted to come downstairs and take a listen to some tracks he was putting down. My friend obliged and once they were in the room Paul proceeded to sit behind the drumkit and overdub some stuff, singing along. After they were done Paul supposedly asked for "your honest opinion" and my friend could only come up with "Yes, Sir Paul, sounds great!" I told my friend he probably wanted to hear "Could use a tighter snare sound" or something.

That is really, really awesome! I'm not sure if François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee) still posts here, but is this Soundtrack NYC? I've been in that facility and know the layout well because I know people who work there. Last time I was there (probably several years ago), I remember looking through some kind of display they had of album covers, and Memory Almost Full was one of them.

At this point, it looks like Memory Almost Full was the peak of McCartney's resurgence. I was hoping for more/better, but what we got is still much better than what I would have predicted. I never thought I'd go to a McCartney concert or get into any of his new music, but all that happened in the second half of the '00s.

I didn't think Memory Almost Full was an unqualified success, and after a month or so I started tweaking the album into something I'd enjoy start-to-finish, replacing the four tracks I couldn't like with the only four I liked from Chaos & Creation (which I found overrated if commendable). I hadn't played the CD-R I made in years but I tried it this morning and still enjoy it:

1. Fine Line
2. Ever Present Past
3. Friends to Go
4. Only Mama Knows
5. Jenny Wren
6. Mr. Bellamy
7. Promise to You Girl
8. Vintage Clothes
9. That Was Me
10. Feet in the Clouds
11. House of Wax
12. Nod Your Head
13. Dance Tonight
(hidden track) I've Only Got Two Hands

birdistheword, Thursday, 16 September 2021 16:26 (four years ago)

No, the studio was NY Noise down in the Meatpacking District. Gone now about 10 years. I worked there so the “friend” stuff = my old boss ( RIP Rick). We had lots of great folks come through and record in that small space - was an amazing experience - but, sadly, I had split for the evening the night Paul dropped by.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:26 (four years ago)

one year passes...

Oh God y'all, I'm listening to Give My Regards to Broad Street for the first time in probably 20 years, probably for the second or third time ever, and there's so many oddball sonic and production choices all over this thing. The "disco" No More Lonely Nights for example, is SO close to being plausible as the seed for another McCartney II level foray into 80s electro-indie pop. Unfortunately for me, for once I'm not buying Paul's nonsense and it all just sounds distractingly unrealized to my ears.

Like, I LOVE "Ballroom Dancing," always have, but the version here is such a disaster. In theory I'm SO on board for Paul wanting to swerve the song halfway through into the land of 80s studio boogie, but it's just so terribly-executed and uninteresting. On many great Paul albums, his random style exercises feel like they come from a genuine interest in new sounds he's hearing, while this sounds like he's striving to do it but doesn't really have a handle on it. "Not Such A Bad Boy" is much more convincing. Not landing like an instant classic or anything, but gives me a pleasant "Live at Daryl's House" vibe. "No Values," later in the album, is very bland, but maybe kind of pub-rocky if I'm using that term right?

The lows are SO low. But I can imagine an alternate-universe version that's thought of like, "oh yeah Paul McCartney's got this kinda cool early-80s album that's his version of Glossed-Up Roots-Rock With a Hint of New Wave; if you dig Run Devil Run or any of the more rock-type Wings songs, you'll dig it." Instead it's pretty widely considered his worst album, or at least pretty high up there (right?). I guess it might just be a case of "the songs weren't there."

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 5 February 2023 15:22 (two years ago)

Marcello:

I really didn’t think we could sink any lower after Bowie’s Tonight, but Give My Regards is a far more actively unpleasant record and a far more painful listen, despite (unlike Tonight) having at least one salvageable track. Why? Because Bowie micturating on “God Only Knows” is one thing, but listening to an artist effectively crapping on his own work brings a level of badness which this tale has not previously known. It is not that this record lacks good songs; indeed, some of its songs are among the best ever written...

No doubt the internet is full of Macca fan sites and message boards whose contributors can see the good side of Broad Street and strive to point out its hidden merits. Good luck to them. I tried, and I could not. The one song worth saving was the most prominent new one, and the single: “No More Lonely Nights” was the strongest song McCartney had written in years, and proved that when he could be bothered to pull his finger out, he was more than capable of bringing back the old magic. Eric Stewart and Linda McCartney’s backing vocals remind us of “I’m Not In Love,” Dave Gilmour turns up to play a propulsive, anguished guitar solo, and it’s all very acceptable in a late 1975 kind of a way (and a far more deserving number two single than “The War Song”).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:44 (two years ago)

i personally think this album is better than it's given credit for but only if you ignore the utterly pointless covers. the original material is pretty good.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:46 (two years ago)

The only time I'd ever favour the Stones over my belov'd McCartney and Bowie is late 1984, and quite drastically too. The Stones released their best ever thing (the Too Much Blood 12" maxi) and Paul and David released their worst ever.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:24 (two years ago)

'orrible wuzzn't it

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:25 (two years ago)

very fa'kin' funny michael

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:26 (two years ago)

So yeah I pass on Regards (though the film has its uses), but I am to some degree a Press to Play defender.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

come sit by me then

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

he's a has been at this point along with bob dylan (his last decent record was 'desire')

CerebralCaustic, Monday, 6 February 2023 03:06 (two years ago)

more caustic opinions plz

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2023 03:07 (two years ago)

More cerebral opinions please

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 February 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

At least one would be a start.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 6 February 2023 16:43 (two years ago)

Chat more chat

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 6 February 2023 18:23 (two years ago)

Oh God y'all, I'm listening to Give My Regards to Broad Street for the first time in probably 20 years, probably for the second or third time ever, and there's so many oddball sonic and production choices all over this thing.


"Ballroom Dancing" is a crappy listen, but does it have Dave Edmonds on it? I feel like maybe that boogie-cum-unnecessarily-loud-brass-arrangement brew all might've made more sense if you were watching the film (ok, that's a lie -- no film Paul McCartney has ever been behind has ever made a lick of sense).

Fake edit: Ok so now I’m WATCHING THE GIVE MY REGARDS MOVIE on YouTube and there is a whole sequence of them shooting a video to this in a ballroom and a West Side Story-esque tussle over a woman. The arrangement does actually make a little more sense when you’re watching it. John Paul Jones, Edmonds and Chris Spedding and Ringo are all playing on it.

Other things, I’m noticing:

There’s a whole sequence at the beginning of this movie with Paul, recording in a studio with Ringo, who is tuning his drums initially, while George Martin is producing. Oh hey look, on trombone is the same guy who played on Sergeant Pepper, who also so happened to teach trombone at my college while I was there.

Tracy Ullman shows up about a half hour into this, I think as the girlfriend of Harry who they think stole the mater tapes. There are actually a lot of pretty good actors in this. I have to imagine a bunch of people just wanted to work with Paul.

Now after some guy break danced through “Silly Love Songs,” with the whole band dressed like some 80s French aristocrats, with shaved mullet wigs and white makeup, we’re on to Live From Paulie’s House where Paul and his band do some rough and ready version of “Not Such a Bad Boy.” Linda is rocking a splendid fedora.

“So Bad” comes next. I’ve always had a soft spot for this kind of awful song. It got a ton of radio play the year before. Eric Stewart is here now looking like Matthew Sweet, as are about 400 overdubbed 10cc background vocals that are clearly not Live From Paulie’s House.

The third song from this section is No Values, which I have zero memory of. It’s a p good rocker.

Well, I guess I am live blogging this now, so I suppose I’ll just keep going.

Now a radio interview followed by straight arrow (thru me) live in the studio versions of For No One and Eleanor Rigby. I actually kind of wonder, when combined with the studio stuff earlier in the movie, Paul just wanted to show himself playing and singing a bunch of these tunes effortlessly but also, with his studious filming of mixing board faders and racked gear, to demonstrate all the craft and care that goes into capturing and promoting this stuff.

Ok so Eleanor Rigby evolves into a show hall performance and then a fantasy sequence with Paul in some Vixtorian era carriage with him and Ringo drinking wine and eating grapes by a lake and rowing boats with swans. Sunday in the Park with Paul and Ringo … but not George (or John, he’s dead).

The pastoral bliss is interrupted when Paul imagines Harry stealing the tape and everyone goes over a waterfall and dies.

Now it’s snowing and Victorian Paul sees a ghostly Linda riding a horse in the sky. Then he’s wandering the streets of London with the whores and drunkards, peering like Jack the Ripper at Harry skulking around with the tapes. Harry tries to hide the tapes but is caught by some Peter Grant looking heavy we met a few scenes earlier in the movie and beats him. Then the actual Jack the Ripper who is a record executive I think shows up in a carriage and stabs him. Jokes on you, Harry – those tapes you stole were from Press to Play! Anyway Harry stumbles back to the steps of a concert hall with all the record execs and dies there. Paul then awakes from his dream.

Paul gets back in his ZZ Top car from the beginning of the movie, which has a computer in it that gives him his schedule for the day. He drives past the Battersea powerstation, listening to the Wings version of Band of the Run.

Now he goes to Ralph Richardson’s house. Ralph has a monkey. Ralph serves him tea and suggests Paul slow down a bit and then looks like he’s about to hypnotize him.

Paul cruises around the streets of London some more in his ZZ Top car, listening to a cheesy Baker Street sax version of him singing “The Long and Winding Road.” Meanwhile Tracy Ullmann laments Harry’s disappearance. Brian Brown, his manager, paces a lot and the shadowy corporate guys walk around with suitcases because they’re going to foreclose on Paul or something if he doesn’t find the tapes in time.

Anyway, Paul drives past the Broad Street rail station and has a revelation and parks his ZZ Top car. As he walks around the abandoned rail station to “No More Lonely Nights” Paul imagines himself as a busker. And then once his fantasy ends, he looks over at the bench next to him and sees his master tape lying there in the rain. And then he hears poor Harry who apparently locked himself in a shed thinking it was a toilet. Mystery solved!

Paul rings Linda from his ZZ Top car to let her know he’s found the tapes and Harry. Brian Brown informs the suits who look sad they won’t be able to foreclose on the McCartney family farm.

Paul then wakes up in his car and realizes he’s been daydreaming whole time. Cue the disco version of “No More Lonely Nights” over the credits which, yeah, I’d completely forgotten and apparently has Anne Dudley on synths. This thing is extended. After doing 1980s versions of all of his songs, it’s legit like he just timewarped back to 1979 for this. Why? No one knows.

This is all ridiculous and meaningless. But it’s a lot easier to watch when you realize Paul’s entire concept is just to do his own Hard Day’s Night.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 02:06 (two years ago)

some of these wings albums aren't half bad y'know

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 02:14 (two years ago)

is the movie better or worse than the 70s sgt pepper one

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 02:15 (two years ago)

better because it's never actually boring except for this bit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3rG4vm06kE - which apparently lasts 12 minutes but feels like 12 years.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 02:21 (two years ago)

Ebert said that when he told Paul his movie was no good, Paul looked like he wanted to kill him.

Magical Mystery Tour is very close to the worst movie of all time with some of the best scenes.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 03:45 (two years ago)

"his movie" i.e. Broad Street

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 03:46 (two years ago)

Magical Mystery Tour would've worked out great had they simply cut out the musical sequences and sent those out to Ed Sullivan, the BBC and other television programs, similar to what they had been doing with their other proto-music videos. It probably wasn't economically feasible though - they needed to recoup the cost of making that film and that wasn't going to happen unless they had an hour-long program to sell.

FWIW, I thought Dylan should've done the same with the 1975 tour footage that became Renaldo and Clara - the film was always going to be a mess and he needed to deliver a live show to NBC anyway, so he should've just ditched his ill-conceived narrative film idea and simply cut together a concert film. In that case, it would've been a far better financial decision had he done so - he ended up spending a great deal of money shooting that Colorado show for the NBC broadcast, and then he poured a ton of additional money into Renaldo and Clara as he kept editing it for another two years, leaving himself buried in a ton of debt (which was the main reason he did those awful Budokan shows - to financially right the ship).

birdistheword, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 04:03 (two years ago)

Ebert said that when he told Paul his movie was no good, Paul looked like he wanted to kill him.

lol yeah it was Siskel, who said McCartney almost threw a glass of OJ in his face.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 10:25 (two years ago)

McCartney not even the best filmmaker in the Beatles.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:11 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gk1tnvl8mo

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:54 (two years ago)

omg that looks so awful.

appreciate the liveblog, NTI.... Wow, I don't think I ever really had a clear sense of what the movie was, just that it looked very uninteresting and uncool, even to a teenage Beatle nerd weighing the VHS box at Blockbuster. I wish I'd been more adventurous, since it does at least sound *memorably* bad. The sheer quantity of dream sequences! He must have thought that the success of MTV was an endorsement for the kind of nigh-structureless MMT model of "there's some songs, and then in between, things happen!" well again: maybe if the songs had been there. but now I'm picturing a 70s version with the Band on the Run tracklist and it still seems pretty wince-worthy.

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 12:13 (two years ago)

I saw this movie in the theater, my pick.

My step-brother leaned into my ear the whole time, going "this SUUUUCCCCCKKKKS."

pplains, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 14:38 (two years ago)

eight months pass...

Paul McCartney's new tour is called Got Back:

https://www.paulmccartney.com/live/got-back-tour

It'll be the first tour under his new name, Sir-Macs-a-Lot.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 14:18 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Did you say you wanted 22-minute retrospective on the Broad Street catastrophe with lots of clips of Macca getting into spats with critics and media personalities that include former classmates? I thought you did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yraq4XV7GE

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 27 July 2025 13:33 (five months ago)

Yay!

I don't know if this clip mentions how Gene Siskel told Paul the film sucked and Paul almost threw a glass of orange juice in his face.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 July 2025 14:54 (five months ago)

It has that bit! But I couldn’t see it was Siskel.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 27 July 2025 15:52 (five months ago)

Whoof, I'd always thought it was a total flop, but figured it was more of a "barely got released and no one even heard of it" affair. Those defensive promo-tour clips... yeesh.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 8 August 2025 10:14 (five months ago)

Rock star vanity projects were a big thing in mid-80s cinema … Purple Reign, Rick Springfield’s Hard to Hold (saw that in the theater). Paul was absolutely at a peak in terms of solo popularity around then and routinely cited as the richest man in England (and maybe the world?). The hubris was strong in this one …

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 8 August 2025 12:52 (five months ago)

It Couldn’t Happen Here too. Better than people remember though, that one.

Surprisingly one of the best ones, The The’s Infected still remains unreleased on DVD/streaming/blu-ray.

piscesx, Friday, 8 August 2025 22:40 (five months ago)

The BFI need to get on that one (and From Dusk 'Til Dawn), a bit like they did with Weekender recently. Maybe they'll finally explain why the 1986 video is an 18.

A lot of the more endearing (if not actually that good) ones are straight-to-video, like the Style Council's JerUSAlem, ABC's Mantrap and UB40's Labour of Love.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 8 August 2025 22:44 (five months ago)


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