grunge revival: real or imagined?

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silversun pickups: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaIT82a7VjY
the ponys: http://www.theponys.com/
boredoms reissues:
iha-less smashing pumpkins reunion: http://www.spin.com/features/news/2007/04/070423_spumpkins/
dinosaur jr. reunion: http://www.dinosaurjr.com/
new early seattle comp: http://www.birthofgrunge.com/
pearl jam headlines lollapalooza '07: http://www.lollapalooza.com/default.asp?fd=1

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

the ponys don't sound like grunge

i'm not sure smashing pumpkins were really considered "grunge"

boredoms have never been remotely "grunge"

i've never heard silversun pickups.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

imagined, since only about half of those are even tangentially "grunge"

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

or right, what matt said

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

the ponys sound a lot like grunge now.
the smashing pumkins were considered grunge.
boredoms are unclassifiable yeah but became well-known because they were championed by nirvana.
maybe you should click the link for silversun pickups.

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

more specifically, the new ponys is a lot like grunge-era sonic youth.

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

are you, by any chance, a member of silversun pickups?

the ponys are pony.

― CharlieNo4, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

grunge-era sonic youth != grunge

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

i beg to differ, but if you're going to define grunge as strictly Tad or something then I guess you're right

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

by right i mean right about your wrongness, not right about reality

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

no i'm sorta defining grunge as sludgy metal songs played punk rock stylee

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

aka, you know, what it is/was

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

you don't even have to bend over backwards so much as to include the Pumpkins, SY, and Dinosaur Jr. as "grunge" to make a case for this, considering that most of the bands you hear on active radio formats these days are warmed over Nth generation Pearl Jam/Alice In Chains ripoffs. grunge never left!

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, honestly, who's more nu-grunge, Silversun Pickups or HINDER?

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

i really don't see how referring to pumpkins, sy and esp. dinosaur jr. as grunge is bending over backwards. at the time anyway, to deny they were generally considered to be grunge bands in the early/mid-90's is totally revisionist history.

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

i'd argue that grunge included a lot of stuff that wasn't "sludgy metal songs played punk rock stylee" like for instance breeders, sugar, sebadoh, lemonheads, buffalo tom, pavement, etc. even mudhoney - the quintessential grunge band at one point - was more than that.

the identification of it as strictly for knuckledraggers came later

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

grunge-era ~~sonic youth~~ dinosaur jr != grunge

^ also true

― stephen, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

even if I give you a pass on who you consider grunge (which would seem to be anybody who was on alt-rock radio in that 5 year period), I'm still gonna have to go with "imagined," just because i'm wary any time someone attaches revival/trend status to the fact that bands from a certain bygone era are still around or appreciated in any capacity (even if, for the most part, that capacity is far far less than what it was at their commercial peak during that era).

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

any alternative or underground music released between 1991 and 1995 is grunge. don't you people know that the world revolved around grunge. nothing existed without grunge. grunge was the alpha and the omega, the blessed ground from which all flowers grew. also, kurt cobain listened to the raincoats, so raincoats = grunge. get with it.

― Edward III, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

boredoms are unclassifiable yeah but became well-known because they were championed by nirvana.

so that would make devo grunge LOL

― braveclub, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, if the next Pumpkins or Dinosaur or Pearl Jam albums sell anywhere near what they sold in the early 90's, then we'll talk "revival" and not "hey look, they haven't all died or retired from music." (xpost)

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

breeders, sugar, sebadoh, lemonheads, buffalo tom, pavement, etc.

I believe this may be the elusive musical genre known as "lol indie rock".

― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

fwiw, wikipedia agrees with me that "grunge" = Seattle bands and just a handful of others (L7, Stone Temple Pilots, etc.):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

to deny they were generally considered to be grunge bands in the early/mid-90's is totally revisionist history.

the, uh, "grunge revolution" hit me hard back in '92 and early '93, and I honestly don't remember considering the Pumpkins grunge. The heads who turned me on to Gish were basically neo-hippie, jam band types who dabbled in the alternative nation. I mean, sure, they appeared on the Singles soundtrack, but so did the sisters from Heart.

As for the band's Siamese Dream days, well, they definitely were part of some thing often call the "alternative rock revolution," but not grunge, really. In fact, by the end of '93, I don't remember anyone really using the word grunge anymore.

― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

yeah "alternative" was the catch-all buzzword for most of the decade, whereas "grunge" was the catch-all buzzword for a year, two tops.

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

maybe defining the word "grunge" as some pervasive genre tag that tons of kids used back in the day is actually revisionist history.

i mean, outside of mainstream media and parents trying to be hip, did kids even take the word grunge all that seriously? we knew it was a sham; cobain and vedder told us it was -- which kinda sounds silly, but it's kinda true, too.

― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

I remember babbling about this somewhere before, turns out it was here:
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=47847

Prior to the Seattle explosion in '88, the "grunge" term was already in use, and it referred to any band that aped the slower rhythms and dirty guitar sounds of classic rock - bands like Kilslug, Raging Slab, Halo Of Flies, The Bastards, and Dinosaur. Even Butthole Surfers and Scratch Acid were described as "grungey". This was a pre-existing strain in the underground. Sub Pop just positioned it as a defining style, and like the true marketing geniuses they were, branded Seattle as grunge central.

I'd agree with the perception that there were grunge bands who looked towards Stooges, Sabbath, etc as inspiration (Mudhoney), and those who aspired towards more of a Led Zep / BTO orientation (Mother Love Bone, and by extension Pearl Jam). Once it got into the mainstream all these subtle subcultural differentiations melted and anybody wearing plaid and playing a guitar was grunge.

apparently grunge now includes the boredoms and sonic youth. I learn something new every day!

― Edward III, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

as a person that owned several flannel shirts in the 1990s, i think i get to decide what grunge is and isn't.

this thread is wrong.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

and nirvana championed all sorts of stuff! are the vaselines grunge? are the raincoats grunge?

sonic youth were already a pretty established thing way before grunge even happened.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

i bet i owned more flannel shirts than u

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

sonned in a flannel beef!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

the fat kid's friend!

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

The real question is why anyone would ever want a grunge revival in the first place.

― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

[insert genre]: real or imagined?

could go far....

― fandango, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

Nu Rave?
Fidget House?

― fandango, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

Real! Don't forget My Chemical Romance.

― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

wow, there's some serious grunge denial going on here, as there was at the time.

are you guys seriously arguing dinosaur jr. and sonic youth had nothing to do with the genre of music widely known as "grunge"? come on.

<I>i mean, outside of mainstream media and parents trying to be hip, did kids even take the word grunge all that seriously? </I>

judging from the hair-splitting defensive responses on this thread, it seems some former kids still take it all too seriously. jeezus.

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

there's a difference between hysterical denial and everyone pretty much agreeing that you're wrong. yeah, of course SY and Dinosaur didn't have "nothing" to do with grunge, but you're crazy if you think it isn't almost universally agreed on that those bands are either not grunge or at least 'less grunge' than Pearl Jam/Nirvana/etc.

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

didn't have "nothing" to do with grunge

oh al, no.

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

i take grunge mad seriously son. get yr mind correct. shit is real.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

what's wrong? the double negative? the scare quotes? I was just saying, duh, they both toured with/were friends with Nirvana, etc., so it's not like there's no relation at all.

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

(xpost)

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

fwiw, alex, the same wiki entry you refer to above says:

"Such Northeastern bands as Sonic Youth and Dinosaur Jr. are considered important influences on the grunge sound and both groups championed many Seattle grunge bands."

(as if wiki proves anything anyway)

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

the double negative

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

influences being the operative word [xpost]

― braveclub, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

somewhere the member of the toadies who was a former english major is crying

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

hairsplitting being the operative word

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

are considered important influences on the grunge sound
are considered important influences on the grunge sound
are considered important influences on the grunge sound
are considered important influences on the grunge sound

xposts

― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

does anyone else constantly flash back during conversations like this to the MTV News segment where they asked every band on Lollapalooza that year what "grunge" was and they all gave vague or sarcastic answers?

(xpost - i'm not denying influence/association! it would be pretty dumb of me to insist that Sonic Youth and Nirvana resided in completely seperate universes)

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

do not feed the flannel-clad troll everyone

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

I've honestly never considered Sonic Youth and grunge together in the same sentence. Arty New York noise vs. hairy Seattle buttrock.

― Dan Peterson, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

don't talk about Tad like that. (xpost)

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

Is it 'hairsplitting' to suggest that Muddy Waters was not a rock'n'roll singer?

― braveclub, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

threads like this do make me remember the day cobain died and my mother earnestly asking my sister and i if we needed to "talk"

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

everybody always denied the existence of grunge! it's actually very grunge of you guys to continue to say these bands weren't grunge.

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

I've honestly never considered Sonic Youth and grunge together in the same sentence. Arty New York noise vs. hairy Seattle buttrock.

-- Dan Peterson, Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:57 PM

I just did a double take and thought that the drummer from Mudhoney showed up in this thread to weigh in.

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

somewhere the member of the toadies who was a former english major is crying

I've been needing (FUCK YOU ENGLISH) to hear "Possum Kingdom" at least once a day these past 2 weeks.

Next week, I'm gonna start stalking Vitamin C.

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

ok chris, to clear this up, basically your definition of "grunge" actually is anything that got played on rock radio in the early-mid 90's, right?

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

looks like it

breeders, sugar, sebadoh, lemonheads, buffalo tom, pavement, etc. even mudhoney

― dmr, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

but hey he was right about 1 out of 7

― dmr, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

not at all... off the top of my head I would define grunge as any band that ever had a member who used a distortion pedal while wearing a ski hat.

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

hm what about a fuzz?

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

LUCYS FUR COAT YALL

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Fretblanket RIP 0_o

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

we're making progress

anyway I don't think the thread is totally off base as we've been talking elsewhere about all the Amrep type revival bands (Pissed Jeans Clockcleaner etc)

and the Ponys do sound v.v. '90s on Turn the Lights Out

but to take something as broad as you wanna define it and say "it's back" .... kinda meaningless

― dmr, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

The real grunge revival occurs at the end, after ten minutes of silence.

― M.V., Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

WHERE IS BUTT TRUMPET

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

Stop me before I GIS for Priority Records ads.

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

everybody always denied the existence of grunge! it's actually very grunge of you guys to continue to say these bands weren't grunge.

-- chris, Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:58 PM (7 minutes ago)

if a grunge band played in the woods, would we hear it?

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

a real grunge band would be chopping those fucking trees down, man

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha i forgot about this pedal:

http://elderly.com/images/new_instruments/135N/DG.jpg

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

"hey ZR that solo in the second section sounded great on the playback but could you do it again AND TURN UP THE GRUNGE ON YOUR GRUNGE PEDAL."

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

sorry bro, no boss metal zone no cred

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

big muff to thread

― dmr, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

Is the guy from Bush still a musician or does he just take care of Gwen's kid all day?

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

google image searching "wax" did not give me the responses i had been hoping for

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

I HAVE ONE OF THOSE GRUNGE PEDALS!!
IT MAKES ME SOUND LIKE SONIC YOUTH, THE BREEDERS, TOAD THE WET SPROCKETT, AND BOYZ II MEN!!

― Fetchboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000002AV1.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_V46447093_SS500_.jpg

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

i love the grunge knob on that grunge pedal. what does it sound like if you turn the grunge down to zero?

as far as what grunge means, ridiculous as the label has always been, I also kind of think of the soft-loud Pixies dynamic thing be as much of a definitive stylistic thing as the sludge metal-punk thing. I also think of a kind of tuneless wavering boyish male singing voice over "heavy" guitars a la Thurston + J. Macis but I guess that wasn't all that common. and girl bass players, of course.

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

Out of print:
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51BTBJT8AKL._SS500_.jpg

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

i love the grunge knob on that grunge pedal. what does it sound like if you turn the grunge down to zero?

Warrant?

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

THRUSH HERMIT omg

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

Your search - "krist novoselic in a dress" - did not match any documents.

― Fetchboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

THE GOOPS

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

Clerk soundtrack had "Chewbacca"!

― nickalicious, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

Also Clerks sntrk

― nickalicious, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

we really have yet to consider the full impact that Gruntruck had on the modern development of western civilization

also, it's time to revive the thread about crap early/mid 90s soundtracks, just for bringing forth all the bad memories of undergrad life/high school

― kingfish, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

I also kind of think of the soft-loud Pixies dynamic thing be as much of a definitive stylistic thing as the sludge metal-punk thing

to sort of get back to the topic at hand, when i hear a description like that i think "alternative rock," not "grunge," although you might consider that hairsplitting. it isn't, though! they're related and there's certainly crossover, but there are legit differences.

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

screaming trees always seemed like the most grunge band to me.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

it's because they were fat

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

only two of them were fat

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

how many members were there?

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

4 (?)

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

pleasantly plump then

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

by mass

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/08.08.96/gifs/lollapal1-9632.jpg

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

it gets no grunger:

http://www.historylink.org/db_images/ScreamingTrees_1983.jpg

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

now that's grunge!

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

corporate magazines still suck:

http://www.washington.edu/alumni/columns/dec96/screaming_trees.gif

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

that band with the dude from the first "Real World" -- they were grunge right? their hair was definitely grunge.

― tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

wait what where they called? soundbox? riverfish? candlefinger?

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

REIGNDANCE

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

plz drive up here and shoot me in the face right now for knowing that

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha ha look at his other band names

Andre Comeau (b. 1971) is a singer and songwriter who gained notoriety as one of the original cast members of television reality show The Real World.

He graduated from Clarence M. Kimball High School in Royal Oak, Michigan. His musical influences were the Beatles, The Rolling Stones, and Bob Dylan. His band, Reigndance, moved to the New York area in the early 1990s. He had a friend who was interviewing for The Real World and recommended Andre to the casting director. The casting director called Andre and after making a video, he was selected to be on the show. Andre and Reigndance were excited as they felt that it would be a great way to showcase their band. After viewing the first few episodes, they discovered that it wasn't what they had in mind.

After the season, the band felt overexposed and changed their name to Makeshift Gleam. They released their 3rd and last album after securing a publishing deal. Andre moved to Los Angeles and in 1999, formed his new band, Milkweed. The band became successful playing at several Southern California venues.

During the 10 year Real World reunion special, a protest of castmembers broke out. Andre participated in the protest on the basis that royalty checks for songs written by Reigndance wasn't properly credited and that he wasn't receiving royalty checks. During the original season, they would play music from Reigndance, but they would credit the songs' writers as being "unknown". After a lengthy discussion, Reigndance began receiving royalty checks for their music being played on The Real World.

After a few albums with Milkweed, Andre dropped his band and went solo in 2004. Going back to his musical influences, he now sings folk/bluegrass music.

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

MAURA.COM (3:12:52 PM): i have that cd
STRONGO (3:12:18 PM): omg

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

can we break the ban on YSI links on ILM just this ONCE?

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.kungfunation.com/images/SON58.jpg

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

she has reigndance?????

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

oh maura

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

wait...what the FUCK?

Going back to his musical influences, he now sings folk/bluegrass music.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

plz drive up here and shoot me in the face right now for knowing that

-- strongohulkington, Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:11 PM

i would say that's a bad statement to make when someone else on this thread is right across the street, but i knew that too

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

the picture on their myspace page is a spiderland homage

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

strongo rip :p

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

wait...what the FUCK?

Going back to his musical influences, he now sings folk/bluegrass music.

-- M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:16 PM (1 minute ago)

Obviously, folk/bluegrass was an early grunge protoype.

DUH.

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

stone gossard & the foggy mountain boys

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

aka Mad Season?

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

u mad season

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

was flatt or scruggs the one that was in Brad?

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

Problem Factory
Reigndance (Artist)

Track Listings
1. Second Time Around
2. Temporarily an Eternity
3. No Room
4. Why Divide?
5. I'd Tell You
6. Lazy Bones
7. You're Wrong
8. Things Will Be Different Now
9. Luxury
10. Out of the Question
11. Open Arms
12. Better Than I

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ "Problem Factory"

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

why divide, guys, huh? why?

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

Problem Factory is a wholly owned subsidiary of Frustrated, Incorporated LLC

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

Is Flickerstick the new Reigndance?

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

oh ffs Matt :)

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

but who could forget Candlebox

I could, until 5 minutes ago

― dmr, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

see, Reigndance (haw haw) is the sort of band I think of when I think "grunge." Other bands I think of when I think "grunge": Alice In Chains, Candlebox, Stone Temple Pilots...I don't know, it may be that these were the bands that I first heard referred to as grunge. In short: I hate grunge.

― tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

vedderbird.jpg

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

actually when i think of grunge i pretty much just think of dave and al

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

man this thread got so rad

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

alternative rock threads always bring us together! i've been saying this for years.

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

I "remember" all those bands with near-identical names that I used to see on phone-pole posters around Seattle in the early 90s: Candlebox, Hammerbox, Crackerbash, Stickerbush...

― Dan Peterson, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

Prickerdash

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

Stickerdick

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

Chuckerbuck

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

Crackerbarrel

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

haha, i already found this for the ile thread about carbonated beverage slang, but it fits here too:

http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/hist100.96/elc/grungehoax.gif

― kingfish, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

yesssss! stick it to the man, megan!

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

that has to be fake

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

it was not. i mean, the list was. it was like that doonesbury strip where zonker hoodwinks roland hedley jr. come to life

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

"peyote and clam dip!"
"really? together?"

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha that is totally fake!

http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/hist100.96/elc/baffler.html

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

i think i might start using "bound-and-hagged," actually

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

do that and you're dead to me

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

can it lamestain

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

i want to read that doonesbury storyline now.

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

NOTED COB NOBBLER MR. QUE

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

cob nobbler is amazing.

i remember hammerbox being pretty okay.

i think they had a song on the Road Rash soundtrack.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

lamestain!!!!! ha ha was that your grunge band in high school?

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

all time classic hoax

― dmr, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

i didn't have a grunge band i couldn't afford the pedal ;_;

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

you still practiced in front of the mirror with a bag of oregano and a tennis racket i'll bet

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

j/k

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

I like that "Tom Tom Club" and "swingin' on the flippity-flop" didn't raise any alarms. All hail the critical thinking of rock journos.

― kingfish, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

Hammerbox actually were pretty good, powerful female vox and very effects-heavy guitar; not grunge at all really. (xpost)

― Dan Peterson, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

omg bag of oregano

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

u r doug from the state

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

"big bag of bloatation" is my personal fave

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

"son bob dylan isn't dead - i produced his last album."
"oh, you mean uncle robert?"

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Did they get the label wrong, or did the chick from SubPop just lie about it?

― kingfish, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

there was a grunge band at my high school called Blindside. Or Blindspot. Or Blindstain. Can't remember.

― tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

according to wiki they got it wrong

― dmr, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

I need to dig out my ancient Doonesbury collections.

"Casual sex?"
"You know, blue jeans allowed."

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

lol my boss was in Crackerbash

― will, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

"roland, that's a lilac bush."

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.timeforlight.com/cp-1988withdonna.jpg
the trees rool.
they printed that lexicon of grunge in the daily mail when i was a kid.

― stevie, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

FYI, the meat puppets have reformed and are touring again

― kingfish, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

alternative rock threads always bring us together! i've been saying this for years.

-- strongohulkington, Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:32 PM (25 minutes ago)

u_u

― and what, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

FYI, the meat puppets have reformed and are touring again

so are the stooges, bad brains, and throbbing gristle. GRUNGE IS BACK.

― Edward III, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

REGGAE IS BACK

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

BLUEGRASS IS BACK

― Edward III, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

EXPERIMENTAL HORSE IS BACK

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

THE ORIGINAL KINGS OF KLEZMER

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

klezmer aint dead

― and what, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

BIG BAND NEW JACK SWING

― David R., Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

FOURTH-WAVE SKA JUST AROUND THE CORNER

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

THAT'S THE IMPRESSION THAT I GET, MILO

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

laff it up, lamestains! don't say i didn't warn ya when the value village is sold out of flannel shirts with the built-in hoody part. catch you on the filppity flop and Rock On!

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.westernsafety.com/dutchharborgear/SW301.jpg

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

the 90s were a good time to grow up poor

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

also not a bad time to be funny-looking and/or baked iirc.

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

kind of a golden age really

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

beavis & butthead aired nightly

― kingfish, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

THAT'S THE IMPRESSION THAT I GET, MILO

anyone else instinctively sing the horn line?

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

i am imagining cher horowitz dancing with the gay dude

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

echobelly was one of the key grunge progenitors

― félix pié, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

also: galaxie 500

― félix pié, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

and das-efx

― félix pié, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

RONG

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

shocking blue as well, who were covered by nirvana

― félix pié, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

the future of ska

― Fetchboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

it's never a bad time to be baked, folks

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

CAT BUTT

― latebloomer, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

REM was not grunge

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uha8G2_kqFY&mode=related&search=

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

monster was REM's wannabe "grunge" effort right? anyway, speaking of grunge/alternative era videos, i was up last night watching VH1 Classic's "alternative" block of videos and i noticed how hilarious Live's "I Alone" video is. with the sound on, it's kind of unbearable, but muted, the shirtless ed kowalchek-the-night-stalker-singer-guy-or-whatever-his-name-is running around shirtless with that retarded hare krishna braid making goofy faces, his band trying to outdo him..fucking laff riot man.

also a Paul Westerberg video from the "Singles" soundtrack came on, it had jeremy piven and some other people from the movie in it. it was really corny.

― latebloomer, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

not as hilarious as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAExj4-bZrA

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

oh live

the beauty of gray

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

I am so happy I grew up in the age of alt-rock radio.

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

wait are these the real lyrics

10: Freaks
If the mother goes to sleep with you
Will you run and tell geraldo
If the mother bears your children without tears
Without the usual costs of labor

If the mother goes to bed with you
Will you run and tell the neighbors
Will you hide behind that get up that you wear
Or will you take the first ear that comes into contact with your blade like peter did on the hill

Will you call her a freak?
Will you call them freaks?

If the mother goes to bed with you
Will you run and tell the papers
How she picked you from a line up in downtown philadelphia
With a cigarette hangin' out of your mouth and henry miller in your back pocket
You little fucker

If the mother goes to bed with you
In the bowels of the cathedral
Will you render her asunder with what she really needs
Or will you crash that beautiful silence with some talk about finding yourself in you mother's arm
s

Will you call her a freak?
Will you call them freaks
Or will you call them gods?
Will you call them freaks?
You know you sperm is weak
You never looked, so high
To ever find her so low
You did not have to go, that far
To show her you were holy

Now you know they're gonna come for you
And drag your silly name into the mud
If the mother bears your children without tears
And without the usual costs of labor

Will you call her a freak?
Will you call them freaks
Or will you call them gods?
Will you call them freaks?
You know you sperm is weak
You never looked, so high
To ever find her so low
You did not have to go, that far
To show her you were, show her you were holy
To show her you were holy
To show her you were holy
To show her you were holy

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

11: Merica
Looks like america's dropped her load
She was ready to explode
I could not see her from up here
Cuz she was lyin' in the road

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

her placenta falls to the floor, y'all

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

so wait, america took a shit in the middle of the road?

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

better claim to grunge-ness than all the bands in the first post - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm9At8eMVcE

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

x-post

no, Live did...AND STAYED THERE!

― latebloomer, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

MIGHTY K.C.!!!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

did you guys ever feel like you sorta had to "choose" between being a nirvana fan and pearl jam fan? i was a nirvana person. but i did buy the pearl jam records, i just didn't feel like i was a part of team pearl jam.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

grunge, the dying gasp (aka mom-grunge): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbotrJJQWEw

― milo z, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

you know your sperm is weak

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

the real really real grunge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASisLT5XHtg

― chris, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

ed kowalchek-the-night-stalker

latebloomer you are a treat

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

pearl jam/nirvana was the stones/beatles of our generation

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

see also big/pac

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

i wonder if chris considers toad the wet sprocket grunge?

― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

Classic scene from growing-up-in-the-Alternative-Nation: 1st freshman year roommate programmed his tv to wake us up to Mtv. Every morning I got to hear "Zombie" followed by the Offspring. every fucking day.

Fortunately, I changed rooms on MLK day.

life in late 1994: Bill Clinton, Kennedy, and the Contract with America

― kingfish, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Of course, the devolution of "grunge" into "Alternative" was troubling, but those were the heady times we lived thru

― kingfish, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

one day, we would get:

Electronica

― kingfish, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

it went

modern rock --> grunge --> alternative --> pop-punk (bit of an overlap here) --> ska --> alternative pop --> (electronica detour) --> rap-rock --> nu-metal --> emo

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

how to get from big audio dynamite to fall out boy in 347 easy steps

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

what about "college rock"?

― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

can someone put up an mp3 of "against the 70s" my mike watt/eddie vedder? i used to love that song...

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

i think college rock was before modern rock?

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

what about pissed jeans and clockcleaner? what about comets on fire? i mean, if screaming trees and dinosaur jr get to be grunge... were the tar babies grunge?

― ian, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

modern rock --> grunge --> alternative --> pop-punk (bit of an overlap here) --> ska --> alternative pop --> (electronica detour) --> rap-rock --> nu-metal --> emo

Big Bad Voodoo Daddy is gonna be pissed.

― C0L1N B..., Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

This thread is like a weird American rock parallel version of those dance music threads where Doglatin used to come on and call everything under the sun minimal house in that hope that he'd eventually hit the nail on the head.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

i really need to work out some sort of actual diagram

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

cuz, you know, i don't have enough work to do

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus --> the dude from live

― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

what about pissed jeans and clockcleaner?

TOO SLOW RESPONSE, GRUNGE REVIVAL HAS PASSED YOU BY

anyway I don't think the thread is totally off base as we've been talking elsewhere about all the Amrep type revival bands (Pissed Jeans Clockcleaner etc)

-- dmr, Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:06 PM (4 hours ago)

― dmr, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

seven mary three-------->nickelback

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

Walter Raleigh -----> "Meet Virginia"

― ghost rider, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

FOMA

― strgn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9196/rockchartdb8.png

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

hahahahahaha

― strgn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

i'm sure i forgot something

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

haha awesome!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

THE 90S

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/images/applause.gif

― ghost rider, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

roflz

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

"Sabotage" video OTM

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/struggin/rockchartdb8.png

― strgn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

The Nixons are one of the few bands hailing from Norman/Oklahoma City, but the foursome has nothing in common with the twisted psychedelia of the Flaming Lips or the transvestite punk of the Chainsaw Kittens. Its debut, Foma, is soulless, generic grunge. The album takes its title from author Kurt Vonnegut's phrase for meaningless lies that people live with to make themselves feel better-appropriate for a band that, given a different commercial environment, would probably sound like Poison. --Jim DeRogatis

― strgn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

pearl jam : nirvana :: "hippies" : "punks" ?

― strgn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

fisheye how i miss you

― strgn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

omg my chest hurts

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

i hope to god there was a grunge band called 'fisheye'

― strgn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.adequacy.net/images/feature/39-1.jpg

― strgn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

next time i think ilm is a waste of time, i'll remember this thread

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

i love that monsterland album - i even wrote some 'undiscovered treasure' piece on it in NME. i met greg vegas at SXSW a few years back and told him of my love for his old band. he look unsettled by my fervour.

― stevie, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

I was in the Soundgarden fan club, and they sent us all a three-song cassette promoting this "new band from Seattle" Pearl Jam ("Alive"/"Wash"/"I've Got a Feeling"). They shared the same management, Susan Silver. I thought it was cool, thought they sounded like Bad Company.

― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

I freakin love the Screaming Trees, man they had a good run.

someday I will Leonardo my compilation of all the B-side covers from their Sony period (including epic cover of "Freedom" by Buffalo!)

― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

when watching the pearl jam unplugged, my step-dad was insistent that eddie vedder sounded like richie havens. being an irascible 14-year-old, i would hear none of this

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

maybe i'm on drugs and i don't know it, but jackson c. frank's "yellow walls" sounds like proto-pearl jam circa "Daughter"

― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

hm, I can see the Richie Havens thing.

― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

a little bit

― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:47 (eighteen years ago)

keep in mind my step dad listened to almost nothing but smooth jazz and sports talk

tho he did own a hot tuna album

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

WAIT

WHO IS STRGN

IF HE IS NOT STRONGO

― David R., Friday, 27 April 2007 02:05 (eighteen years ago)

I had never bothered to listen to Silversun Pickups before - good lord what a shitty band

― Hurting 2, Friday, 27 April 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)

WAIT

WHO IS STRGN

IF HE IS NOT STRONGO

-- David R., Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:05 PM (Yesterday)

it's a tiny mini-me version of strongo. it kinda looks like that dancing baby from ally mcbeal.

― latebloomer, Friday, 27 April 2007 08:23 (eighteen years ago)

someday I will Leonardo my compilation of all the B-side covers from their Sony period (including epic cover of "Freedom" by Buffalo!)

that wld be AWESOME

― stevie, Friday, 27 April 2007 08:38 (eighteen years ago)

WOW I DID NOT THINK THIS WOULD BE SO HARD, strgn = struggin from old board = matt, SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION

― strgn, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

I want to see grunge fashion comeback. Maybe not all these examples...
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7486/untitled11ka8.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2029/00240mrd7.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3765/00070mzo4.jpg
I would buy into grunge fashion if I had the time and money to care about what clothes I wear.

― CaptainLorax, Friday, 27 April 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)

Don't call it a comeback, I been here for years.

― I eat cannibals, Friday, 27 April 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

When the Ultimate ILM Quiz Bowl is finally assembled, there will totally be a category called "Grunge or Not Grunge?"

And the first question will be: "St. Johnny."

― nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

they came up on my shuffle the other day!

I'd say not-grunge.

Put 'em under "SY disciples" along with that band Cell.

― dmr, Saturday, 28 April 2007 01:26 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

so how's this revival going?

― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

The Fluid sold out the Bowery last week IIRC

― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

dang, I thought you were serious J0hn. that's cruel, I thought that somehow I'd missed 'em again -- flew out to Seattle for their Feb '09 show but totally missed their Denver June '09 show because I didn't even know about it :(

but I check their Facebook page regularly and no New York shows posted. However, just checking the Bowery website just now -- holy fuck, Caetano Veloso playing tomorrow @ Terminal 5! Apparently he's doing a five show tour of the states?? dang, waay too late now to make travel arrangements / get off work, etc. How can it be that I find out about crap like this so late? Even reading ILM regularly? I expect to see all news here i guess. must be doing something wrong

― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 8 April 2010 04:07 (fifteen years ago)

Lorax is trolling iirc

― ksh, Thursday, 8 April 2010 04:08 (fifteen years ago)

yeah no shit. thanx for the info. but John's post seemed at least possible, since they are actually reformed and playing, and I think they did sell out the Neumo's show in Seattle last year (granted that is Seattle.) No idea how many people were at the Denver show.

― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 8 April 2010 04:23 (fifteen years ago)

my comment was not directed at you

― ksh, Thursday, 8 April 2010 04:24 (fifteen years ago)

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