neil young

oh shit decade

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

I voted Time Fades Away

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

I got to get away from this day to day running around

TRANS FTW!

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

Dead Man is actually really really good.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

no "none of the above"????

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

DIVORCEE

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

a 3-way tie this time then.

Fair result.

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

c'est vrai

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

weird

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Dead Man = Neil's best electric work?

look at the bill for this thing
http://www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/cultural-festivals-and-events/event-listings/hal-willner's-neil-young-project-_70660zv.html

I'm assuming thats a different Chris Brown, otherwise o_O

yeah, probably?
a mix of eh, cool! and whaaaa?
Sam Beam of Iron & Wine
Chris Brown
Vashti Bunyan
Robert Burger
Brendan Canning
Fred Cash
Jason Collett
Julie Doiron
Kevin Drew
Sam Goldberg
Shahzad Ismaily
Eric Mingus
Sun Kil Moon
Jenni Muldaur
Ambrosia Parsley
Justin Peroff
Ben Perowsky
Joan as Policewoman
Elizabeth Powell
Bill Priddle
Lou Reed
Alasdair Roberts
Ron Sexsmith
Teddy Thompson
James Blood Ulmer
Andrew Whiteman
Doug Wieselman

hoping for a mingus/blood ulmer/reed jam on down by the river

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j//msnbc/Components/Video/071107/tdy_chrisbrown_song3_071107.vmodv4.jpg

A MAAAAAAAAAID

Yeah, some good names on there and some wtf ones as well. I scanned it quickly the first time and saw "Bill Priddle" as "Mark Prindle".

http://celeb.wohoo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/chris-brown.jpg
can i get a heart of gooooold?

IT'S THE WOMAN IN YOU THAT MAKES YOU WANNA PLAY THIS GAAAAAME!

TAKE IT, ULMER!

haha

wish they would substitute teddy thompson for richard thompson

Neil Young and Bert Jansch, May 24 at DAR Constitution Hall ($83.50-$193.50)

Don't think I want to spend that much to see him on this solo tour.

great bill tho

man i would love to see bert jansch

Neil has always been at the vanguard of steep ticket prices.

geez that is a ridiculous ticket price

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8nveweVvh0

there is a single $248 seat available at the worcester mass show

thank god I have plans that night

i didn't go see neil the last time he was in town because tix were $100 bucks ... i had just bought the archives so I had blown my neil budget for the year, really.

I missed this poll. I realize that there's no accounting for personal taste, but I do find it unsettling that somebody counts Everybody's Rockin' as his/her favourite Neil Young album.

The cheap seats here in Houston are $69 w/service charge. The big problem though is it's a frontgate event and they don't have outlets in town, so you have to either go to the venue (Jones Hall) or purchase online. According to the seating chart, I've got a nice balcony seat.

Not that I'd have voted for it but shocked that Freedom pulled a zero on this one too, esp with Trans pulling in two votes.

ha, didn't even look at these results ... they are a little ridiculous, but what the heck. (Only 1 vote for Zuma?)

Yeah, those too. Everybody's Rockin'-1 and Old Ways-3, and, at the other end, Zuma-1 and Freedom-0--these are all very puzzling. Everything else, even albums I dislike (Trans) or consider overrated (On the Beach), more or less makes sense.

only one vote for harvest 'makes sense'?!

I would say so, yes. I think most people who are going to take the time to vote in a Neil Young poll would choose something else as their favourite. If, on the other hand, you surveyed 100 random music fans, undoubtedly it finishes first.

yeah, i wouldn't vote for harvest as my fave neil young album ... not sure what i'd vote.

You'd think with an environment as committed to scientific results and objectivity as ILM that the poll results would make SOME KIND of SENSE!!

Point taken, sure--but all of that aside, I still find it hard to believe that there's someone who a) cares enough about Neil Young to click on this thread and cast a vote, and b) counts Everybody's Rockin' as his greatest album. It's just funny-weird.

Or maybe it was just meant as a joke, and all my puzzlement is the punch line.

being someone who voted for popeye in the robert altman poll, I get it

and yeah the poll results are wacky but almost a third of all votes went to ditch trilogy releases which is:

a) about right from a macro-career perspective
b) unsurprising for ILM
c) frighteningly consistent with the results of this poll: Best of Neil Young studio records

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a6A6oTFdcw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39VjfTW0Xys&feature=related

Next Young wanted to release Old Ways, a country record he cut in a two-day Nashville session. He felt it was a strong, commercial work, part of a series that included After the Gold Rush and Comes A Time. Geffen felt differently. They rejected it.

"They said it scared them," says Young. "They wanted more rock and roll. Okay, fine. I'll give ya some rock and roll. I almost vindictively gave them Everybody's Rockin'." He greased back his hair, put on shades, and went out on the road with a '50s-styled band called the Shocking Pinks. "I got way into that guy," says Young. "I was that guy for months. He was out there. It was a movie to me. Nobody saw it but me, but who gives a shit."

that Wonderin' video is hilarious

Let me add: "Wonderin'" is fantastic (song and video). I always counted it as Everybody's Rockin''s one reason for being. Discovering, via Archives and Fillmore East, that's it's been around forever was a surprise. And now Everybody's Rockin' may have lost its one reason for being.

yeah, "wonderin'" is a pretty perfect little tune.

<3

anyone catch the neil young trunk show? i feel like that entire set was him working through relationship issues! the shot of the autistic kids. gorgeous "oh lonesome me" and "mellow my mind" on the side. i think i voted 'dead man' in this but with spring and such i'd go with zuma atm.

as a middle finger to the record company it's classic neil tho

like an 80s version of heading for the ditch

xxp

I'm going to the first show of this tour on the 18th- can't wait. I even splurged for the expensive seats! The one other time I saw Young was with Crazy Horse at the end of the Horde Fest in '97 and I wasn't nearly as big a fan as I am now, not to mention I was like a mile from the stage and exhausted from a long day of boozing...

Just back from the Houston gig. Fantastic show of course. He busted out old black and a white gretsch for extended electric segments, included a version of "Hitchhiker"! He did a bunch of new songs that have a weird religous bent. I'll imagine they'll sound pretty interesting once Lanois gets done with 'em.

Saddest thing: no real "ditch trilogy" numbers.

oh fuck, I kinda forgot about Neil!! I was trying to look at the dates in Nashville or Austin for maybe a quick vacation... totally forgot about them as I got caught up in work plus have been spending mad money lately anyway. Wait, Ticketbastard is showing a new date now? July 19th ( a Monday?), may need to try to make that one happen. Probably no Bert Jansch tho? No matter, I can see Bert here in Chicago before he plays the Eric Clapton 'Crossroads' festival the next day....

Roomfull, did you see Bert too? how was he?

oh ,forgot to post.. that July 19th is in Portland .. even better reason...

some him last week, it was really good. i loved the way he built from the acoustic openers up to crazy howling electric stuff. it was much more of a rock show than i expected. "cortez" was A+++.

Suprising to see Time Fade Away, part one of the Ditch Trilogy, getting so much less love than On the Beach and Tonight's the Night.

i'm think maybe a buncha people haven't heard time fades away, since it's barely ever been released on cd. seems more forgotten about by the general public than TtN and OtB, to me

That's true. It still hasn't received a proper release on cd. Probably never will in Neil's lifetime. I grabbed a digital copy of the internet, which is better (or no worse) than giving money to bootleggers for a pirated vinyl transfer to a cdr.

I mean the digital copies on the internet are obviously vinyl rips as well.

there's an hdcd rip out there too - it was prepped for release at some point in the 90s and pulled at the last minute.

Yeah, I read that on the wikipedia page after I posted my comment. They went as far as pressing test cds back in the Nineties. I'll have relisten to my copy on headphones to see if I can tell it's source. It boggles the mind as to why they just don't go ahead and release the thing at this point.

Roomfull, did you see Bert too? how was he?

Jansch was very good. Like most of the audience, I'm not really familiar w/his stuff, but enjoyed what I heard. He did "Black Water Side". He talked a little with the audience and at the end thanked us for not throwing anything at him.

super cool that neil is bringing jansch on tour ... hopefully the audiences are respectful. guess neil and bert aren't playing any songs together though? that'd be interesting.

Neil at the Fox Theater in Oakland=hooray! Tix $90-$200=fuck that. I know Neil loves his big ticket prices, but seriously for 2 people I could get a fucking subscription to the opera for that rate.

ha, i know -- was sort of afraid that he'd schedule a date in my neck of the woods and then i'd have to freak out about whether i could actually afford it. but he hasn't scheduled one yet. amazing that people pay so much for tix to these shows -- i'm a HUGE fan, but I have trouble spending more than $50 for any concert.

yeah i'm kind of realizing i might never see him again because of ticket prices

now you're depressing me ...

$50 + surcharge is as high as I will go for rock n roll.

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

― kornrulez6969, Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:18 AM (2 years ago)

Funny news from the merch table: They were selling copies of the Archives BluRay box for $250.

such a bummer

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/09/BAAQ1G9C6V.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea

yeha, brutal. this will probably set archives vol. 2 back at least three decades.

none of the archives stuff was in this warehouse fwiw

well, for purely selfish reasons, i'm glad! hope nothing totally irreplaceable was lost.

"Yeah, I'd like to declare 3 cars, 20 guitars...a whole lot of posters and stuff...and, uh, all the masters of Times Fades Away, yeah, every damn copy I had...that's the ticket..."

here's the official word:

1-despite the damage, most everything of real value survived.
2-the archives are safe and not there.
3-some video and film was onsite and is ok.
4- Lincvolt was parked over night there and did not fare well in the fire.
5-no precious guitars were on site.
6- I foresee a yard sale in our future and imagine that you will hear abut it
thru me or other official channels.
7- everyone is ok

Happy 65th!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY4U--ACpsE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo6gz1YYVnM

^^^oddly similar melody to Pocahantas

That's just amazing. I looked up the date, and the Pam Dickinson song is 1966. To me, that's a much more credible example of (subconscious, I'm sure) plagarism than George Harrison and the Chiffons. I'm contacting this woman immediately to see if she wants to launch a lawsuit. If she says yes, I'm quitting my job and going to law school.

haha

um the song is written by Carole King

I'm thinking that Neil and Carole are probably good friends; sounds like my lawsuit's a non-starter.

it's just weird - it popped up on this Girl Group Sounds box set and I was like waitaminit I know this melody from somewhere

ha! i've heard that song before, but never made the connection. but yeah, pretty similar.

Dammit, I wanna sue someone. I think I'm going to go after Marlon Brando's estate.

Descendants of Hernan Cortez v. Neil Young & Crazy Horse

More seriously, what do you guys think of "Sea of Madness"? I saw the Big Sur movie on TV probably 30-35 years ago, and it always stuck in my mind; didn't get a hold of it till a couple of years ago, and then it turned up on Archives. I totally love it. The guy dancing at the fifty second mark in the clip above is great beyond words.

love "sea of madness"! i can kind of imagine a motown version of it or something.

I'm thinking that Neil and Carole are probably good friends...

― clemenza, Friday, November 12, 2010 10:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Well they did write "Oh Carole" and "Oh Neil" for each other.

(Or was that Neil Sedaka and Carole Pope? Neil Peart and Carole Bayer Sager?)

It was Neil Sedaka and Carole King. :)

Why do I love being a Neil fan? Because I can hear a song of his hundreds of times and think, "oh this is pretty good" each time, but then suddenly be completely blindsided by how amazing it really is. This happened with "What Have You Done To My Life" this morning.

yeah, that whole s/t album is probably my big neil re-discovery of the last few years. probably pushed its way into top 5 neil albums for me, thanks to that amazing remaster.

that was one of the first Neil albums I bought (80s CD reissue, I think?) but I just HATED the way it sounded and sold it after a couple years. have never gone back to it. maybe I should

i think that's how i first heard it too. it seriously is a major, major improvement. used to sound kinda rinky dink, but now it's big and layered.

It's crazy how much better that remaster sounds, really.

right? the thing just sparkles now, whereas it was pretty flat sounding (even on the vinyl i have). i guess there were a bunch of weirdnesses with the mix when it originally came out.

Yeah, I think having the remaster is a huge reason why the song was such a revelation for me this morning.

hmm searching for a d/l of the remaster is kinda hard...

oh never mind, found it

the claps on cinnamon girls are blowing me away right now, like i never heard the song before

yeah, after a billion live versions, it's easy to forget how rad that song is. where did it come from? cant really think of another song from the 60s it sounds like.

wow this really does sound quite different than I remember. the fuzz guitar tone in particular seems like it must have been difficult to capture correctly

just to jump on the s/t remaster train, it's maybe the best remaster I can think of ("best" as in greatest improvement in sound quality, hearing it in a new way, etc)

just chiming in here, all the remasters sound great but the first album is like a completely new + awesome album

the fuzz attack on stuff like "I've been waiting for you" and "the loner" is flattening

& the wide open orchestration on "old laughing lady" could be off of Bryter Later

the s/t seems like a template for Gene Clark's "No Other" to me now

yeah, true, and it's interesting how neil could've been more of a cult-type artist along the lines of Gene Clark. Kind of similar trajectories in their early days -- Neil just had some hits (and CSNY of course) that turned him into a superstar.

rumored to be playing the bell house in brooklyn tonight w/peggy & bert jansch.

never thought much of the s/t, but the raves itt (esp the gene clark comparison) have convinced me to buy the remaster soon. only 8.99 on amazon!

Let me say a word for "The Emperor of Wyoming," one of my three favorite rarely-talked-about Neil songs (other two: "Country Girl" and "Ocean Girl"). On the downside, "The Last Trip to Tulsa" is interminable, and almost as silly as the Doors at their silliest.

yeah "last trip" is a misstep for sure. though the version with (i think) the santa monica flyers from the 70s is awesome. a lot shorter too.

Making this pretty funny.

"I've been waiting for you" is one my favorite Neil back catalog surprises.

if anything "last trip to tulsa" is a dylan rip

it's slight but he gets some good lines in

It is more Dylan than Doors, you're right.

haaa, that promo is hilarious

The best part is the implication that Neil somehow got separated from his guitar during his Buffalo Springfield days...Had he switched over to cello or something during that time?

add another missing album to the pile -- just read this, never heard of it before:
I woke up in the middle of the night because I’ve been listening to this – it’s a bit of a tangent here, but I’ve been listening to this album called Treasure, which I have in the can that was done in 1985. I’ve been listening to it because I plan on releasing it someday, and it’s a great record. But all of the people – the key people – are all gone. I have this history of these people that are playing the greatest music of our lives, playing unbelievably great, and now they’re gone, and I didn’t continue playing with them. At some point I had to say, “I’ll see you guys later. I gotta go do this. I’m gonna go play with Crazy Horse now. I’m gonna do this or I’m gonna do that.” In that way I am ruthless, but I’m ruthless for the music. What is ruth? I don’t know what ruth is. If I don’t have any of it, you know, I’m okay.”

He's the one artist that *has* to have a "A NEW ALBUM FROM" sticker on his, um, new albums.

"Cinnamon Girl" - double drop D, no? Got to be relatively unusual, though I think he used the same tuning for "Ohio." Perhaps accounts for their striking-ness.

there's a clip from the archives where neil shows a fan how to play it, and yeah, i think it's double drop d.

he did play with peggi last night in brooklyn. looking pretty old

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music/pegiyoungneilyoung/bellhouse/40.jpg

according to the cinnamon girl wiki page:
The song was written in Double Drop D tuning (DADGBD). This tuning is used in several of his most famous songs, such as "Cortez the Killer", "Fuckin' Up", "The Loner", "Ohio", "Inca Queen", "The Old Laughing Lady", "Ride My Llama", "When You Dance I Can Really Love."

it is a cool tuning!

Pity John Entwistle didn't use it on his version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-avGFz3uzlE

Somewhere on Archives, there's an old clip of Neil explaining to some guy in a park how to play "Cinnamon Girl."

This is not that clip, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6sg5OMZ7uM

just wanted to chime in some more about the s/t remaster, been listening to it a bunch lately:

- Last Trip to Tulsa is possibly the worst song in his entire catalog. aimless, formless, terrible lyrics, terrible delivery. practically everything about it is wrong
- the only other track that irks me is Here We Are in the Years, just for the clumsy lyrical sentiment

there's a great (much shorter & electric) version of "last trip" that was the b-side to the time fades away single. and yeah "here we are in the years" is definitely not the best set of lyrics, but it is pretty!

http://www.bigozine1a.com/TRKSD/NYrarities/NYrarities13.mp3 here ya go

haha omg that is SO MUCH BETTER. sloppy groove and a sneer is def the way that song should be

loving the unhinged-ness of this - feels of a piece with Yonder Stands the Sinner

yeah, the song is pretty funny/nasty in that version

This song is atrocious.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/amplifier/88621/canadian-rappers-sample-brutalize-neil-youngs-old-man/

I listened to A Treasure on the way in this morning and I have to say, I think this is finally going to provide a way for me to get into the 80s country era of Neil's career. That's always been a blind spot for me, both because 80s Neil was the last in general I came around to and also because country can be the hardest genre for me to really invest time in. I'd long heard and read about the legendary International Harvesters tours, but the few bootlegs I heard were of questionable enough quality that I couldn't fully commit. This sounds great and, while it may not represent any kind of peak for Neil, I'm really thankful to have it in my collection.

A nice little sign of the times, the crowd reaction to the "there's already too many Toyotas on the road" line in "Motor City".

80s Neil was the last in general I came around to

Trans!!!! It's all about that album

Trans is amazing

Trans was the first (and only) 80s Neil I had for the longest time. Its the less regarded 80s album I took forever to get into.

news from the toronto film festival:
Neil has just completed his first book, a 105,000-word epic tentatively titled Cars I Have Known.

"Underrated Cars I Have Owned"

gonna assume the book is about neil's experiences with Ric Ocasek, Benjamin Orr, Elliot Easton and David Robinson?

It's all about his quest to copy their drum sound in the 80s.

May you live in inneresting times--happy 66th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBOQfr2Lrno

happy b-day!
clemenza, you might be innnerested in this. it kind of works!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Z3Ikwj1xk

Thanks--I like it. With something like "Harvest Moon," which for me is kind of ordinary, I think you've got to do something with it besides a straight cover. Into the folder it goes. Found a picture of them:

http://www.themusicninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Poolside.jpg

cool bros. yeah, i know nothing about them except for this...sort of like that the singer is kind of terrible, it helps!

was just thinking i'd prefer it more if neil was singing over their track tbh

Happy bday neil!

Also the high placement of sleeps with angels on this poll is weird!

That is weird. There are for sure 5-7 albums that could easily jump ahead of it. The most important thing is that it is above the 39 or whatever that could not.

Over zuma, everybody knows, and live rust is crazy

finally got around to buying A Treasure today in honor of Neil's b-day. Here's wising him many more.

Also the high placement of sleeps with angels on this poll is weird!

Troll vote coalition was pretty strong on AIM about 4 years ago.

1 vote for Harvest is some contrarian shite.

or else it's just ILM Loves the 90s

oh shit i didn't even notice harvest...

has harvest somehow become neil young's most underrated album?

hee hee, one vote for Zuma! wacky. i don't think i voted in this poll.

depending on the day i could probably vote for any of neil's first dozen or so records...

these are the NY albums that showed up on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list in 2003, for a decent idea of the canonical view of his catalog:

71. After The Gold Rush NEIL YOUNG
79. Harvest NEIL YOUNG
147. Deja Vu CROSBY, STILLS , NASH AND YOUNG
206. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere NEIL YOUNG with CRAZY
327. Tonight's The Night NEIL YOUNG
346. Rust Never Sleeps NEIL YOUNG AND CRAZY HORSE

Fairly accurate, I'd say, with a built-in Rolling Stone tilt. I think the consensus would be more like Gold Rush or Rust Never Sleeps at the top, followed by Tonight's the Night, followed by Everybody; then some configuration of Time Fades Away/On the Beach/Zuma and Freedom/Ragged Glory. I think Harvest is quite good, but Neil's own ambivalence about it in the Decade liner notes seemed to fix its place as the big-selling album that came between Everybody/Gold Rush and the so-called Ditch Trilogy--it doesn't quite seem to belong. I don't know that Deja Vu fits in, either, even though Neil contributes two brilliant songs (and half a good one).

I think sleeps with angels is way more ilm loves the 90s than a troll vote, it's a really good album

So glad I took a minute to rescan this thread--I've been trying for a year to remember the name of that "Pocahontas" sound-alike Shakey Mo Collier posted, and I couldn't remember the song, the singer, or the thread (there are a number of Neil threads).

Top 3 are right, Comes A Time and Time Fades Away were robbed

huh! http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2012/01/report-new-crazy-horse-album-recorded.html
... Neil Young has been recording with Crazy Horse . One album is complete and they are working on another.

No mention of content or time table.

Sigh.

seems like if they're gonna do one last big crazy horse tour, they'd want to do it sooner rather than later -- look at these old dudes
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kvQ307mWuF8/TPVHDPpBmmI/AAAAAAAAAis/gBwHeXYcgrA/s400/crazy-horse-musicares-2010.jpg

Last time I saw Neil with a band, Molina was playing drums and seemed fine. But then, so did Ben Keith ...

Haha, yeah, my first thought was, "Where's Frank? And why is his dad there?"

xp

a little more on his slamdance appearance. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1677694/sundance-film-festival-neil-young.jhtml
Haunting words: "Mumford and Sons and My Morning Jacket are great bands," Young said. "I love them both and I know them well. I feel good about saying that."

nooooooooooooooooooo

also i hope age hasn't robbed crazy horse of their whiplash, machine-tuned chops!

more "news" http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-young-recording-new-album-with-crazy-horse-20120123

"It's looking good," a representative for Young says.

Multiple fans subsequently posted on Crazy Horse drummer Ralph Molina's Facebook wall to ask if the news was true. His response: "Yes!"

mumfords suck but i could totally see why neil digs mmj, who are awesome imho

yeah it was mainly the mumfords. not a huge fan of mmj, but definitely not in the same league of lameness.

let us not forget that in some ways, our neil is a huge sap! it sounds ok when it's coming from him because we know him. coming from mumfords, the sap is unpalatable at best and totally untolerable at worst. (i do not like mumfords or mmj but agree that one is more of a disappointment than the other!!)

untolerable? intolerable! repulsive, is what i meant.

yeah, he's a sap... and anyway, i reallllly don't look to him for music recommendations in general. not that he doesn't occasionally have good taste, but I think he's always said that he doesn't even listen to that much music in his private time.

I would listen to Neil debate Mumford's with Mark E. Smith

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lybk735dMs1qdf09mo1_500.jpg

“I told Neil, ‘Don’t wear your fringe to the wedding’. He always wore fringes, but he said, ‘Okay’. So he came in a Confederate army uniform. What a guy!” Richie Furay

southern mannnn
so is the buffalo springfield reunion over?

dunno, my brother saw them at Bonnaroo & said it was pretty fun! (obv lol drugs)

into Comes A Time lately but I guess that goes without saying

latest neil i've been listening to is one of those Crazy Horse Catalyst 1984, where he tries to turn the Horse into some weird angular stop-start fuzz monster. with horns!

speaking of which, getting a very NY & CH vibe from the new dirty three record, with violin in place of neil's guitar, of course.

For some reason, that (xp) reminds me of the 1986 (or '87) MTV Year In Rock special which had a brief segment on that year's NY/CH tour. Loder called it "one of the years stranger tours," and footage showed what appeared to be remote-control insects roaming the stage, and Neil talking into a massive telephone receiver.

yeah, it sounds weird -- in a rusted out garage tour, i think. must've felt like he needed to top Live Rust in terms of stage theatrics. this is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od_Im8vaKBQ&feature=related

needs some interpretive dancing from Nils Lofgren

xp Wow, that rocks. The one great song from Re-ac-tor! (unless you count "Shots"...and yeah, I think I do).

shots is an amazing song!!!!!

i think you gotta at least throw "surfer joe" in there as a great reactor song... and hey "southern pacific" too! though that one is better served by the int'l harvesters version.

I actually haven't heard Re-ac-tor in years, but the only songs that left a positive impression were "Shots" and "Opera Star." The rest I either don't remember or are, ahem, "T-Bone."

yeah, it sounds weird -- in a rusted out garage tour, i think.

Some details from Shakey:

"Live from a Rusted-Out Garage" came complete with huge props, a couple of humanoid mice that chattered incomprehensibly and...remote-control cockroaches. In between songs, the band was harassed by Young's "mom" as well as by visits from exterminators. In a large picture window, a psychedelic slide show by Sandy Mazzeo clicked away.

That sounds totally amazing. Wish I'd been able to see that tour.

yeah the bootlegs i have sound cool, if not totally inspired. ecelctic setlists, w/ stuff from landing on water, Life, Trans reactor, etc. lotta stuff he never played live again.

ha, this bootleg dvd sounds wild: http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/neilyoung/rusted-out-garage-dvd-r.htm
Radio Controlled cockroaches, gigantic mice dancing on stage, and a continually barking dog may have been amusing stagecraft at the time, but do tend to detract a bit from what otherwise is a great rock and roll show. Of note is a worthy cameo from Sam Kineson as a pissed off neighbor complaining about the noise. A Geetarz Production. Recommended.

I can see how some of that might spoil the flow of a concert, bizarrely fascinating though it might be. The show I saw in 1991 was pretty stripped-down...which is to say, just the massive Fenders. And if he'd followed "Love And Only Love" with a dancing mice, I would've been pissed.

hey apparently there's some sort of new neil + crazy horse thing streaming on neilyoung.com now! not an album, maybe a rehearsal or something. i can't currently listen on my aged laptop.

thanks for the tip! nice horsing around

almost tempted to say they should just release rehearsal jams, nevermind the songwriting. it'd be like an endless boogie record.

doesn't sound that different from Broken Arrow tbh

I didn't pay much attention to this when someone posted the link on Facebook earlier today, but it's pretty great drone. (From when?) I'm downloading it right now, and should have an mp3 in about 10 minutes.

hook me uppppppp

now into a Cortez jam...hoping they'll tour & do a 3 hour Cortez, endless dancing across the water

that'd be rad. instead of neil + crazy horse play one album from start to finish, it'd be neil young + crazy horse play one song from start to finish.

I'll get it out to you, Tyler. The Cortez segment sounds vintage enough to be right from '75.

whoa, Neil is singing Cortez now

based on Neil's vocal, I'd be surprised if this were 1975, but I dunno, he's sounded like an old man for a lotta years now

I'm only 5 minutes in and it's already streets ahead of Greendale. And I liked Greendale.

thx clemenza!
btw if you didn't see it here's a roundup of neil bootlegs still available via my blog: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/16178035631/shakey-friday-heres-a-roundup-of-still-active

Hello Mr. Soul: Neil Young Covers, vol. 1-3

It Might Have Been: The “Lost” Neil Young & Crazy Horse Album

Sad Movies: A Secret History of Neil Young, 1973-1980

Satisfaction In Every Detail: Neil Young’s Extended Dance Mixes

Neil Young & The Restless: Seattle, WA, 1989

xp

cortez, cortez. what a KILLER!

there is something about that song that makes it very special in the neil catalogue. i think it's the apotheosis of his song art. at the same time it has got this soothing, flowing quality and something devastating and incredibly naive about it. neil in a nutshell.

Thirty years ago, I loved "Cortez" and "Like a Hurricane" equally. As time went on, "Hurricane" lost something, but "Cortez" is as perfect today as it was then.

Damn, I've never heard Frank tear it up like this before!

Clemenza, how did you download this? I've clicked and cursored all around, no go so far.

About 6:19 in--so far, they're vamping on what sounds like the intro to "Rumble," version on The Link Wray Rumble, one my faves of the '70s, which is saying a lot. Never issued on CD, even a boot, far as I know.

Real Player lets you upload it as an FLV video, then I converted it to mp3.

Download, I mean.

Thanks. Now it's def "Cortez", but although I liked it in the middle, getting lulled again...

this is a fucking EPIC JAM

This is fantastic. I take it to mean that the Horse are in recording at the ranch, and Neil has wisely decided that since it could all go to garbage very quickly, why not release a good day's work so folks can hear what he hears? The visuals are necessary -- the Neil's eye view at the end telling.

perhaps tyler could end up sharing clemenza's mp3 for the more technically challenged of us?

am working on a piece about Weld for my (fitfully updated) live albums blogged... first neil record i ever owned (i was 16 or 17, i think), and still remember cortez blowing my mind wide open the first time i heard it - just the way this guy who'd been clanging with such noisy force for several sides could pull back and get super-eloquent and just move me to tears, even before i had the first clue what the song was actually about.

I dream of Michio Kurihara sitting in with Neil and Crazy Horse, even though I know it'll never happen.

perhaps tyler could end up sharing clemenza's mp3 for the more technically challenged of us?

^^^

webmailed both of you -- all thx to clemenza!

this sounds rad

just neil young + crazy horse as a force of nature.

This sounds fantastic!

I was sort of hypnotized by the wandering close-ups of his home studio gear ... some of that stuff looks absolutely amazing.

Can I get a copy as well? Thanks!

One for me too!

...Please! (stupid phone)

There are now credits on the front page: the video is called "Horse Back", and it was made this month. Oh yeah.

I was sort of hypnotized by the wandering close-ups of his home studio gear ... some of that stuff looks absolutely amazing.

Great to see the Whizzer up close (the footswitch-operated dealie that physically changes the knobs on his amp).

me too me too

thx to tyler and clem

gah i want to hear this but it;s not loading on my computer.

check yr webmail

I hope Neil's lawyers don't catch wind of any of this.

They came dancin’ across the water
With subpoenas in their hands
Lookin’ for clemenza
And some rabid Shakey fans

And they served them by the dozens
Tracked them down and then they’d pounce
No more sharin’ files
Emptied out their bank accounts

hope it's cool to pass it around, at least for today! don't think that something that will likely never be for sale is going to be a problem.

I'm mostly kidding (I think). When artists put up something like that on their own website, they can't be oblivious to the fact that if it's something that can be downloaded, it's going to start circulating immediately. Especially tech-savvy Neil, creator of Trans.

hee hee
looks like it is a (very) recent recording:
"Horse Back"
Engineered and mixed by John Hanlon at Audio Casa Blanca Jan 6, 2012, assisted by Mark Humphreys and John Hausman
Video by Ben Johnson
Music by Crazy Horse

It's a spotlight track on Archives IV: due in the year 3000.

Hey tyler? :)

check yr webmail

― tylerw, Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:54 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

might wanna do FB since the webmail i have on this site don't work no more

oh man how did I miss this thread

and yeah someone hook a dude up :)

might wanna do FB since the webmail i have on this site don't work no more

^^^^
Same boat. Can you send it to madmonkvinyl at hotmail please??

Sorry to be a pain in the butt

This is wicked.

And thanks to Tyler & Clem for the hookup.

Thanks again Tyler. Much appreciated.

thx should go to clemenza, he's the wizard who grabbed it! and yes this is wicked.

Yeah, thx guys for getting this out there! Much appreciated on this otherwise crappy Monday morning.

tyler and clemenza! you guys rule!

can someone hook a brother up here

danke schoen!

thx bros

getting a little bit scared that i'm going to like this jam more than whatever new crazy horse album comes out this year!

I'd love a copy of this.

ditto

I want a box of these jams to be the new Crazy Horse record.

yeah, i just want to subscribe to Neil Young & Crazy Horse for the year, where they send me an hour's worth of jams every month.

I just got an email from Canadian Pharmacy - is this one of you guys?

That would be amazing

Ah, there it is - thank you!

lol @ canadian pharmacy. maybe that'll be the name of the new album.

I think that was the name of the Times Fades Away tour bus.

crazy horse jams are like trance music for ppl that wear flannel

truth bomb

o hai how do I get one

I don't even know what it is but everybody's getting it so I want it too

i listened to most of the jam on the neil young site and whereas it wasn't crap, it wasn't genius neither...

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyomwqfVeb1qzrivuo1_500.jpg

it's weird, i guess in the neilyoung.com video you can see lyric sheets for such songs as “This Land Is Your Land”, “She'll Be Coming Around The Mountain”, “Oh My Darling Clementine”, “Oh! Susanna”, “Gotta Travel On (Done Laid Around)”, “Gallows Pole”... all of which seem like pretty bizarre songs for crazy horse to be playing.

I could totally hear CrazyHorse jamming out on all of those! Simply, folkie songs with dark undercurrents? Sounds like the right equipment necessary for Neil to do business. Nevermind that we learned them in kindergarten. If they drop that on us, I bet it'll be haunted and raging.

They're also public domain. It could be that those shots were re-takes, the original shots being yet-to-be-published new Neil songs.

Forgive me for thinking that sounds way less fun than a thomping, fuzz-stricken "Clementine".

more excitement
Neil Young: Steve Jobs and I were working on new iPod
Singer tells technology conference he and the late Apple boss planned audiophile successor to iPod with high-resolution audio
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/feb/01/neil-young-ipod-steve-jobs

the new HD iPod! with crappy earbud headphones

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-young-crazy-horse-to-make-live-return-at-paul-mccartney-tribute-20120201
will they play let me roll it?!

The group is already working on a second album together after finishing one called Americana, Young says. The new album, he says, "has a choir in it that sings with Crazy Horse. A very young choir of children. They're songs we all know from kindergarten, but Crazy Horse has rearranged them, and they now belong to us."

That assessment is consistent with the song titles seen in the video on Young's site, including "Clementine," "This Land Is Your Land," "Oh Susanna" and "She'll Be Coming Around the Mountain."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/new-and-hot/exclusive-neil-young-discussing-crazy-horse-reunion-20120202#ixzz1lGi12FLp

Of course it's a Young choir.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2010-08-16-51quMWhPzgL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Sounds like the worst thing ever. Will pre-order deluxe edition.

(^^^ Neil fan)

any video out there of neil + crazy horse playing "i saw her standing there" at the mccartney tribute last week? cant find any.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Hu_0X0dLkPs

i wonder who won neil's pink cadillac

Not sure if this has been posted or if the link will embed, but pretty great:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdtv39_neil-young-old-laughing-lady-1976_music&start=8

any video out there of neil + crazy horse playing "i saw her standing there" at the mccartney tribute last week? cant find any.

Still haven't found any video, but there's this:
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=215909&stc=1&d=1330756776

"Our next speaker this afternoon will be Neil Young."

cool, didn't know that neil's book was scheduled for release this fall. maybe he's actually turned in the manuscript? wonder what the angle of it is.

Neil Young And Crazy Horse to Release New Album Americana on June 5th

Neil Young and Crazy Horse will release their new LP Americana on June 5th. It's their first album together since Greendale in 2003, and their first album with the full Crazy Horse line-up of Billy Talbot, Ralph Molina and Frank "Poncho" Sampedro since Broken Arrow in 1996. The songs on Americana are all classic American folk songs, including "This Land Is Your Land," "Gallows Pole," "Tom Dooloey" and "Clementine."

awwwww MAN...:(

i mean, classic american folk songs are alright, but

awwwwwww MAN...

tracklist:

"Oh Susannah"
"Clementine
"
"Tom Dooley"
"
Gallows Pole
"
"Get A Job
"
"Travel On
"
"High Flyin’ Bird
"
"She’ll Be Comin ’Round The Mountain"
"This Land Is Your Land
"
"Wayfarin’ Stranger
"
"God Save The Queen"

awwwwww MAN...

Wayfaring Stranger is good?

I guess Judy Heneske finally backed off on Neil doing "High-Flying Bird".

lol, i dunno, if these are blown out crazy horse jams, then i can see it being pretty good. does seem like a weird way to reintroduce neil and crazy horse to the world, but that's neil for you.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m15qvtFAVh1qdf09mo1_500.png
cover is already classic

Same "High Flyin' Bird" as the Airplane, I assume? Never liked it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3i8vtqDpXo

Man that tracklist....well definitely the best record I buy this year with old susanna on it

how awesome would it be if the whole album was a fake out leading up to a 19 minute sex pistols jam?

[x-post]Yup. The Airplane got it off Judy Henske:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBC3cfDZbRo

It was written by Billy Edd Wheeler. In the mid-90s Neil wanted to record a cover, and had his office fax Henske a question about the publishing. Shortly thereafter, Henske saw Neil at a party or something, and she got in his face about recording "her song".

get a job

Oh man ilxor unperson isn't going to be looking forward to this given his FB rant. I'm willing to give it a shot, Horsed up trad folk songs could be cool....

Haha, I saw that. I dunno, when it's time for someone to retire, it's usually because they've run out of ideas. Far from it, in Neil's case: he's just coming up with increasingly batshit ideas (which I am 100% on board with, btw).

Yeah, the thing about it being time for Neil to retire is so wrong, considering how absolutely fantastic (and not to mention, pretty much an entirely new direction) his most recent album was. Also, I thought the supposed concept record about his electric car was going to be pretty lol, but it turned out to have some jams on it too. Neil, please ignore the haters and keep on with your batshit ideas.

writing a straight autobiography seems kind of un-Neil to me

more than most artists, neil young strikes me as someone you shouldn't second guess

Wait, that doesn't say Crazy Horse on the cover, it says CRAZY NOISE

Read an interview (don't remember where, unfortunately) where Neil said there are TWO Crazy Horse records on the way, the Americana stuff and a set of originals, both recorded around the same time.

I love "Wayfaring Stranger"!
There's mention of two albums being made here: http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2012/01/report-new-crazy-horse-album-recorded.html

Read an interview (don't remember where, unfortunately) where Neil said there are TWO Crazy Horse records on the way, the Americana stuff and a set of originals, both recorded around the same time.

phew, because releasing a set of "classics" with a "new angle" on them usually means that the artist is "about to die"

sorry, not trying to be a neil hater, i'm just much, much, much, much more interested in the new material. (and i'll stop hatin' staaaaarting..NOW)

Neil Young has been doing classics with a new angle on them since he was about 16 years old.

wheel out the willie nelson duet

Neil was never destined to be Terrence Malick. From '68 to '83, the only year I can see where he didn't put out anything (if you count Journey) was '71. He's been marginally more sporadic since then. I'd put him in the Woody Allen category: churn stuff out, let history sort it out later. (Having said that, I'm 180 degrees from ZS--I'll never be more interested in what he's doing now than what he did between 1969 and 1975.)

back in the old folkie days amirite?

bwt judy henske is awful sorry folks.

new Neil Young album (with Crazy Horse) doing folk covers coming out in June:

March 20, 2012 - (Burbank, CA) - NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE will release a very special album titled AMERICANA on June 5, 2012. AMERICANA is the first album from Neil Young & Crazy Horse in nearly nine years. Crazy Horse is: Billy Talbot, Ralph Molina, Poncho Sampedro, and Neil Young.

As you'll see from the track-listing, AMERICANA is collection of classic, American folk songs. In their day, some of these may have been referred to as "protest songs," "murder ballads," or campfire-type songs passed down with universal, relatable tales for everyman.

Some of these compositions which, like "Tom Dooley" and "Oh Susannah," were written in the 1800s, while others, like "This Land Is Your Land" (utilizing the original, widely misinterpreted "deleted verses") and "Get A Job," are mid-20th-century folk classics. It's also interesting to note that "God Save The Queen," Britain's national anthem, also became the de facto national anthem of sorts before the establishment of The Union as we know it until we came to adopt our very own "The Star Spangled Banner," which has been recognized for use as early as 1889 and made our official national anthem in 1931. Each of these compositions is very much part of the fabric of our American heritage; the roots of what we think of as "Americana" in cultural terms, using songs as a way of passing along information and documenting our past.

What ties these songs together is the fact that while they may represent an America that may no longer exist, the emotions and scenarios behind these songs still resonate with what's going on in the country today with equal, if not greater impact nearly 200 years later. The lyrics reflect the same concerns and are still remarkably meaningful to a society going through economic and cultural upheaval, especially during an election year. They are just as poignant and powerful today as the day they were written.

Neil has penned brief historical details about each of the songs on AMERICANA that can be found here.

AMERICANA was produced by Neil and John Hanlon along with Mark Humphreys, and engineered by John Hanlon with John Hausmann and Jeff Pinn. It was recorded at Audio Casa Blanca by John Hanlon.

The track-listing is as follows:

Oh Susannah

Clementine

Tom Dooley

Gallows Pole

Get A Job

Travel On

High Flyin' Bird

She'll Be Comin 'Round The Mountain

This Land Is Your Land

Wayfarin' Stranger

God Save The Queen

Oops. I should have read farther upthread.

Hang down your head, curmudgeon

back in the old folkie days amirite?

The air was magic when we played. (Actually, I think of those early Archives recordings from '65 and '66 as the old folkie days; '69 to '75 was mostly lots and lots of feedback, with a little T-bone here and there.)

oh i know i was referring to this new album

if the new album uses this as a template, i'm down with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDV6rD7UCg8

album cover is amazing

The recent jam posted on his site might be a taste of the other album, or a tease, but yknow if they tour, they might well kick oot the jams anyway. Don't remember Airplane's studio "High Flyin' Bird," but they did it great on several live sets, ditto another Fred Neil song, "The Other Side Of This Life," esp on Bless Its Pointed Little Head, one of their best albums. Would like to hear Neil do that, or Fred's greatest hit cover, "Everybody's Talkin'."

Wait, "High Flyin' Bird" was written by Billy Edd Wheeler, but goes well w "The Other Side Of This Life."

I don't understand "God Save the Queen". Why not "My Country 'Tis Of Thee"?

I mean, there has to be some mistake. Other than that, I'm looking forward to this more than the other new Neil album.

he's canadian, so...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IloIoGj5Mj0

hmm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lQzHnDl-QBk

They've borrowed the tune from Venus by Shocking Blue.

subtract the so bad and hated from that clip and i can kind of imagine crazy horse doing a good version of that arrangement.

Yeah, it was a lot better than I thought it was going to be, so who knows?

She'll Be Comin 'Round The Mountain

AWESOME! This song is the effing jam.

Wish he was doing "I've Been Working on the Railroad".

wtf is dave matthews doing at the beginning of that clip???

just doin' that dave matthews thang.

huh that o suzanna is not bad really! but it's not really the song it's just like he wrote a neil young crazy horse song and used the lyrics to the old song

yeah, totally. really, if that is all amped up with distorto guitars and long solos, i can dig it.

what else would a crazy horse album be?

Greendale?

o, yeah. even though greendale is mentioned in all the press for the new one i forget that it was crazy horse.

even though molina and talbot play on it, it still seems weird to call it a crazy horse album.

Without Sampedro (and with Molina using hot rods instead of sticks), it barely feels like Crazy Horse. Good record, though. Definitely prefer it to Living With War.

liner notes
http://www.uncut.co.uk/neil-young-on-his-new-album-americana-news

I'd prefer an album of this stuff to an album of "Greensleeves" variants.

first listen!
http://www.uncut.co.uk/blog/wild-mercury-sound/neil-young-crazy-horses-americana-first-listen

An enticing description, but we can't actually listen? Subscribers Only, maybe--?

If by "enticing" you mean "sneaky, deceptive" description. Fuck John R. Mulvey.

oh ha, it's just that dude's first listen. us little people can't listen yet.

Young and Crazy Horse can be simultaneously horny-handed yet elegiac.

hmm

lol yeah that is a weird britisher expression, i think. not meaning that your hands are lookin' for sex, but that you've been out working in the fields or something. the british!

tbf i wouldn't be surprised if neil was horny-handed in the lookin' for sex sense

Well, I was just skimming, squinting, translating from rockcriticese--looks like it's along the lines of whar I'd hoped for (though hopefully not *too* "elegiac," prob meaning moon-eyed warbly; raunch it up, please)

wait, what does horny-handed mean?!

it's when you have sex a bunch but you never wash your hands, and other people can start to smell it

well kudos to them i guess
at least we know what they smell like
still wonder what it sounds like

i just spent a liiiiiitle too long trying to think of a pun involving sex and ears

A wellknown gnome like pop star, angry that Port had spurned his advances one night at the Whisky, had threatened to have her “taken care of.”

quoted from Shakey. Who was the gnome-like pop star?

You might have to narrow that down a little.

At the point I've read to in the book, that's all they give up. I don't expect it will be revisited. Just wondering if anyone had any insight.

Paul Simon? He *is v v small...

Sonny Bono?

the laughing gnome himself?

Paul williams?

there's also the 'captain crunch' anecdote re: someone macking on carrie snodgress later in the book

Yeah, and "Captain Whoopee", who became Neil's "boat buddy", and bled him for $$$$ while looking for a second boat.

I'm gonna light up some Zuma tonight!

Slowly making my way through Shakey. I’m glad to read that Neil shares my opinion of Tell Me Why.

Yeah - who is "captain crunch"?

Ragged Glory on the deck..

I like thinking that S. M. Collier walks around sharing brief anecdotes about late one night at the Whisky in 1972 apropos of nothing in particular.

http://www.collectorsmusicreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/090908050109.jpg

Not looking so much at this bootleg, but the PICTURE! Did not realize he went through a phase in which he basically established the platonic archetype of a Phishhead.

that flying V looks so tiny

dude he is a giant, he wrote a song and everything

Happy 67th, old man. Been playing this for the students all day (skipping over "Southern Man"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpNdiXLBDC4

3 out of 8 songs in Time Fades Away mention Canada: "back in canada i spent my days", "Now I'm goin' back to Canada", "When we got to Winnipeg"

I wonder if this is Neil's highest Canada ratio

Good call. I'm trying to think of others: "Helpless," "Ambulance Blues," "Born in Ontario" on the new album...must be forgetting a few.

“You took that guitar and you put it in your arm, Bruce."

Oh man, a google image search for "Cowgirl in the Sand" results in some horrific, horrific fucking garbage.

Anyone got a copy of the Liverpool show from '73? My best googling has only yielded broken links.

Try here

Sorry, that's Manchester '73. I've only ever heard the Manchester and London shows from that tour.

Oh wait - I have the Toronto show too.

Just curious--where did he play Toronto in '73? Was it Massey Hall or somewhere bigger?

my info says Maple Leaf Gardens. May not be correct.

yeah he played there on the time fades away tour, i think, not on the later tonight's the night tour. don't think i've heard the liverpool show, just the manchester and london gigs.

and there's a queens college tonight's the night show that would be amazing if the sound quality wasn't awful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3z09VRZ6to&feature=plcp

aw, nice clip. also, insaaaaane model railroad setup. don't know if i've ever actually seen it before.
on the less warm n fuzzy side
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdrhourlTY1rrchtqo1_400.jpg
the 70s!

Love that clip with Neil and his son and the trains. Very cool

They are communicating on a different plane, not by the means you or I might use. I have some friends with kids who have disabilities, and even though it may be a challenge, they would not change a thing.

aw, nice clip. also, insaaaaane model railroad setup. don't know if i've ever actually seen it before.

I think that's actually bigger than the model train set at the Chicago Museum of Science & Industry (which is massive).

Always weird to see Neil not playing Old Black

http://sugarmtn.org/instruments/gretsch_6120/gretsch_6120_1985_2.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2701/4088494197_08f48e7d1a_o.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFFV7B386WeoRGrKhZsj0M-jsQ1-9jKp8WRPF9qaWMtvIFxp2s7w

Believe the Gretsch precedes Old Black by several years.

Yeah, he had that back in the Buffalo Springfield days, right? What an awesome-looking guitar that is. Like the pristine flipside to grizzled, battered Old Black.

Yeah, I guess I meant it's weird seeing Neil with a Fender.

That's for sure. Sort of like seeing Springsteen with anything but a Fender.

The strat pic is the weirdest to me. He looks genuinely unhappy to be holding it.

On the other hand, I really love jimmy page's brief telecaster phase

Not that brief! First two albums and bits of the rest ("Stairway to Heaven" solo, etc.). I think he got the Tele from ... Jeff Beck? I believe Beck was playing a Tele around that time, too, but of course embraced the Strat. Page had his own brief Strat phase at the end. Did Neil play a Strat c. the Shocking Pinks?

Page looks cool in any guitar, but the strat is hard to pull off

I'm glad he had it but Page with a Tele seems so odd. Not to indulge in guitar cliches but it's hard to think of Led Zep as a Tele band at all - maybe tele deluxe/custom? Keith rocked that one. This is basically an image thing tbh.

Yeah, but Page's Tele was painted all psychedelic.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSzUs0PLvxkiOwbaffOLVojS_EA7osfp5Vjs_RnloQCowWFuC9VaQ

Saw Neil Young & Crazy Horse last night in Philly. Holy shit. If he is playing anywhere near you on this tour, GO. I haven't been listening to the boots, so I don't know how this compares to the other dates from this year, but really, unless you're not down with monolithic noise jams, this is more than worth the ticket price. A brief (3-song) acoustic interlude in the middle, but other than that, pretty much relentless heaviness for 2 1/2 hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkGkGFyUxTc

Wow, I think I found a copy of the elusive "Southern California Brings Me Down:"

hxxps://www.box.com/shared/48xvyh8xva

Southern California Brings Me Down

I need someone to live with me
To keep my bed warm
And keep my shorts clean
I need a maid to give for free
And sew patches on my jeans

I dreamed I saw my cowgirl housewife
I was drivin' in my pickup through L.A.
I wanna love you while I can, babe
Before I become an old man

Southern California brings me down
Southern California brings me down
Southern California brings me down

Ooh, I need some place to go
Oh, north Ontario
It's safer than Alabama
It's safer than Ohio, ohh...

Gonna go home now
Where I can grow old
With the cowgirl of my dreams
I'm gonna stay stay stoned now
Just stare out my basement window and scream
Ahhhh.....

Southern California brings me down
Southern California brings me down
Southern California brings me down

Oooh, ooh, gotta get away now
Southern California brings me down
Ooh, ooh, babe
Ooh, gotta get away...

Topanga Canyon freaks, you won't see around no more

haha, this is pretty good.

ha never heard of that, pretty good, they get a lot of neil songwriting tics down pat

i wonder who the musicians are...?

yeah i was gonna say the band & esp the guitar playing is pretty awesome

Thank you, Tony Scheuren for NOT tossing a "wine/whine" pun into this thing.
His song from the 70's National Lampoon "Goodbye Pop" lp skewers the ego behind Neil Young's notion of "A Man Needs a Maid."
It references "After the Goldrush" (with the "patches on my jeans" back cover) and loads up on recognition humor ("Neil" longs to live in "North Ontario. It's safer than Alabama. It's safer than Ohio"). If you don't know "Old Man" or "Cowgirl in the Sand" some lines here won't raise a smile.

Mr. Young had a bit of a crooked grin through segments of the Demme concert film "Heart of Gold," but it's doubtful he was all that amused when this parody came out. What sacrilege, to take a poke at a sensitive singer-songwriter, and even do an elbow in the musical rib over CSN&Y's anthem about four dead students at Kent State.
Scheuren is not just "a comic." He began his career as a musician, and at 19 sang lead vocals with "Chamaeleon Church," a group that did release an album on MGM in 1968. He also toured with Ultimate Spinach and is on "Ultimate Spinch III." For most, his most vivid work remains with the Lampoon, both their discs and radio show.
And remember, unless you live in some still hippie-esque canyon, or behind the gates of a Beverly Hills or Malibu home, you'll agree with the faux Neil here, that...
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BRINGS ME DOWN Si, muchachos, es verdad.

Mr. Young had a bit of a crooked grin through segments of the Demme concert film "Heart of Gold," but it's doubtful he was all that amused when this parody came out.
i dunno, he would probably think it was funny. he likes jimmy fallon's impression.

But would '70s Neil Young think it was funny?

he would've wept sensitive singer-songwriter tears

wau at this

ULTIMATE SPINACH!

Never knew this was online: Greil Marcus's original review of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere for Good Times, August 1969:

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/The%20San%20Francisco%20Express%20Times%20aka%20Good%20Times.htm

Really, it's more of a career overview plus a review of "Cowgirl in the Sand."

cool find!

The only word I have for Stills’ music is “perfect.”

hmmm...wait a couple years their Greil

there

sigh

*imperfect*

Man, I checked out a copy of CSN's greatest hits after reading Shakey. It's pretty astounding to me that they were where Young went to earn his money, just in terms of them being an enormous going concern during the late 60s/early 70s. I couldn't make it through a song without rolling my eyes.

yeah, i'm pretty much with you. every once in a while i go back through CSN (w/ or w/out Y) and try to gain some new appreciation, but it's a struggle. they're not bad or anything but neil young is so, so much better that it's a constant question of "why don't i just divide both sides of this equation by CSN so i can just be left with Y?"

Agree that "the American Beatles" and all that was way overdone--Deja Vu was a bigger story than Loaded in 1970, which now seems silly--but I really think they had a bunch of good to great songs beyond just Neil's on their first two studio albums.

Greil Marcus' Woodstock wrapup from RS #42, 9/20/69 on CSNY:

"Visually they are one of the most exciting bands I have ever seen."

So there's that.

^^Neil wore a great ruffled shirt at that show. Probably contributed to the cited visual excitement.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7rw9uQ1XU1qbm3br.jpg

...along w/Stills' poncho.

show was awesome last night. i know they could get goofy, but shit got REAL goofy during "fuckin up." does neil mime a fart (with appropriate guitar sound) very often?

hahahahaha i've never seen that

neil whispering "poncho.....poncho.....poncho" while poncho does blues loverman shit. why couldn't there be more of that on Psychedelic Pill instead of excerpts from his biography?

that said the psychedelic pill stuff sounded pretty strong live, even if the lyrics weren't his finest

To everyone who loves music –

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Neil Young

yes!

"early 2014 launch of Pono" is Neil-speak for "right after Archives 2 comes out"

i'm not even joking archives is gonna be a fucking pre-loaded Pono mark my words :(

lolling @ Neil writing "And be sure to follow us on Facebook and Twitter for the latest information."

haha esp cuz he was such an asshole on his twitter thing

Neil's LincVolt broke down, and he was stranded in the desert.

do people know about this curio? it's pure canadian cheese, but kind of .. errr ... affecting? margo timmins of the cowboy junkies doesn't get to come to the video shoot proper, but gets to sing backup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7ewuZS49aE

Here's the heavier version, still cheesy, but I think this performance better suits the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVgjD8wdNzo

aw that's sweet

in shakey it sounds like everyone worshipped bachman back in the garage days

My guitar teacher told me that wherever Randy grew up, there was literally one guitar teacher, this jazz cat with serious chops, so apparently Bachman got really technically good really fast, and was the only young guitarist around with any real skills. Which of course he applied to BTO.

Lenny Breau is the dude your guitar teacher was talking about. He's kind of a tragic figure in the 60s Canadian jazz scene, and pretty awesome actually. Bachman definitely could've learned from worse. And then, yeah, BTO was the result, I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limCRMZD1Ec

while we wonder what neil is going to do for his carnegie hall appearances this week ... this shot showed up on Matt Sweeney's instagram over the weekend
http://distilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com/848e307675aa11e3bcb212887d20911a_8.jpg
is neil going to be jamming w/ endless boogie?!

Or just "Like a Hurricane."

matt sweeney's fascinating life continues. right before neil he was jamming with group doueh in the sahara

haha, i know, he seems to have life figured out

Pump organ "Mr. Soul"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNBPmgpFITU

Don't recall Neil being in the middle of a political controversy here--a couple of times in the States, but not here, I don't think.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/neil-young-blasts-oilsands-expansion-launches-fundraising-tour-1.2493638

From Neil's fb today:

Stew
15/01/14

The Chief’s making stew in the crock pot on the bus. Smells fantastic. We’re rolling west after a night of cold clean air and good sleep in Thunder Bay. Nobody’s tired, nobody’s complaining, no downers on this ride – there is a lot of love in the camp. That’s what happens when music and cause come together.

It confuses me to hear people shouting at us that musicians should just shut up and entertain. Where the hell did that lame-ass idea come from? Music was, is and always will be about social condition and cause and change. Music speaks for the oppressed and downtrodden. Music launches revolution. Woody Guthrie and Hank Williams and Bob Dylan and Joan Baez and Johnny Cash and Joni Mitchell and Willie Nelson and John Lennon and Eddie Vedder and Neil Young and all the giants of the art know this. What the fuck kind of
music and musicians are these boneheads actually listening to?

Just wonderin’.
Onward
The Passenger

Is that about the pipeline? I know somebody in Canada who I think was protesting that

Eddie Vedder, giant of the art

It's signed The Passenger, and I thought that was iggy

It's more about the oil sands, and honouring treaties regarding land use consultation with the native population in the area of the oil sands and the proposed BC pipeline.

If you're interested, you can watch him here:

http://www.straight.com/blogra/564946/video-neil-young-condemns-oil-sands-developments-comparing-their-effects-hiroshima

My class is actually in the middle of a Native unit right now, so I played a few minutes of that for them.

He's being interviewed on The National tonight.