Best Drum & Bass LP

That Plug album is sweet

No Kemet Crew? No Shy FX? No A Guy Called Gerald? No Congo Natty? No Foul Play?

i guess i was think those were mainly JUNGLE albums, i dunno, i see your point

i also left out things like TORQUE and Renegade Hardware's ARMAGEDDON because they were comps

Of what remains here, it isn't even really close Parallel Universe (despite the meh opening track) is a much much stronger record than anything else on here. You could make a better single disc record out of Timeless, I guess, but unfortunately the single disc version that got released isn't that record and the double disc one is way too long and filler-filled.

Haha I like that Plug is included but NO Squarepusher.

:D

Top Five Single Artist Non-Comp Jungle/Drum-N-Bass LPs

A Guy Called Gerald Black Secret Technology
Blackstar Tribute To Haile Selassie I
Kemet Crew Champion Jungle Sound
Panacea Low Profile Darkness

3-Way-Tie For Five:
4-Hero Parallel Universe
Shy FX Just An Example
Foul Play Suspected

i like panacea in the middle of that early 90s stuff, sticking out like a an angry german's sore thumb. what makes you choose LPD over other heavy dnb albums of that period?

Because it's a LOT better than the rest of the single artist techstep albums from that period (might not be better than Torque or Techsteppin' comps, I guess.)

It's one of the few post-1996 DNB records that I can listen to all the way through.

I LOVE Roni Size / Reprazent, but have never delved into anything else on here except for Timeless, which was just OK to me. Is there something even better than 'New Forms' for a 'New Forms' lover? That would be exciting.

low profile darkness might have held up for me better than torque at this point

techsteppin' is still pretty good for getting weeded

shotgun aimin' at yr chestpiece

Shy FX Just An Example

^^^ ultimate example of creative recycling

it's like dude only owned two movies and a couple yard tapes

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Definitely start with 4 Hero - Parallel Universe, it's a prototype for New Forms. Also try Lamb - Self Titled, Kosheen - Resist, Paradox & Nucleus - Esoteric Funk. None of which sound like New Forms exactly but they have similar elements.

(xpost)HAHAHA you mean you can't tell the difference between 'Original Gangsta', 'Gangsta II', 'Gangsta Kid' and 'Gangsta II: The Final Chapter"!

Definitely start with 4 Hero - Parallel Universe, it's a prototype for New Forms. Also try Lamb - Self Titled, Kosheen - Resist, Paradox & Nucleus - Esoteric Funk. None of which sound like New Forms exactly but they have similar elements.

Thanks for the recs! I do indeed like Lamb, but I didn't see it on the list.

yeah, it's neither the best nor d&b. it is a LP, tho ;)

Well that would explain it then! :P

I've only heard a handful of these in full. never been totally satisfied with any dnb album i guess (more so than with techno LPs). Thought 'Modus Operandi' was a bit boring. I'd probably vote 'Timeless' because it meant the most (to me) as lame as that may sound now. I loved Adam F's 'Colours' for the most part, ditto 'New Forms' and 'Balance Of The Force'.

Alex Reece 'So Far' should've been included.

Panacea would have won this in a heartbeat for me.

I fucking hate that Omni Trio album so much.

C/D the shameful feeling of leaving viable choices out of polls

curse you, gods of nu-ilx, for not giving us edit poll powers!

I heard a new High Contrast track ft. Diane Charlemagne on Radio 1 last night and it sounded alright but as usual NO BIG BASS

xpost - Macallan, it's a good poll and if you edited the choices now it would just piss off the early responders.

If you disagree with my choice: vote for the artist and let us know which album you prefer and why.

(If I were voting strictly on albums in the list, it would be a tough choice between:

//Universe (brilliant, but some of the spoken-word clips get tiresome on repeated hearings)

Timeless (the three-part title track is god-like, and there are other strong tracks, but I agree with Alex in SF that the weaker tracks drag it down)

Plug (I suppose it's noodle-y and not "real" DnB, whatever that means, but hey, I love it)

Roni Size (which I haven't listened to in YEARS -- but it must be a good sign that I can still remember "Brown Paper Bag" so vividly)

If we were talking EPs, I'd go with the Japanese issue of Photek's Hidden Camera. And if the contest were open to compilations, Omni Trio's Next Millenium/Deepest Cut would take the prize.

...and VOTED for Klute...

the only track I don't like much on Timeless (double CD) is 'You And Me'. 'State Of Mind' is as good if not better than anything 4 Hero did in that vein.

I voted for Photek, because it's one of the few dnb lps that I can listen to in big chunks (also the Venetian Snares + strings record). I haven't heard a lot of these, though. :(

another gem that should be up there: Makai - Millenium

The Boymerang LP gets my vote out of that list. Seconding the Alex Reece inclusion, adding Cleveland Watkiss' Project 23 LP & Souljah's Urbanology... and of course Shut Up And Dance's Death Is Not The End!

Also hafta mention Max Rebo Band's Ghost In The Shell for those who (don't) know. Wanted to include some Danny Breaks too but From Beyond Infinity only really has a couple of killer tracks ("Earth Shaker", "Space Maidens") and Dislocated Sounds really goes off the deep end of d&b/breaks. And then after 2001 I'm pretty clueless wrt all of d&b :/

And it's nice to see the German contingent getting some deserved love here

Thought 'Modus Operandi' was a bit boring

Surely not? It's a near masterpiece to me. There does seem to be a general theme on ilx that Photek somehow corrupted jungle's "street" sensibility in favour of a more "intelligent" leaning but I've never agreed with that. Plus has anyone tried listening to the Kemet Crew album from start to finish recently? The passage of time has not been kind.

Timeless is bloated ( although Angel remains a monumental piece of work)but the recent "Malice in Wonderland" as Rufige Kru is a much more succint exercise in danceflor destruction.

Eib, Calibre and Digital are great singles artists (does anyone know 4 Days by Eib?) but I have found their albums dull.

There's something not quite right about Klute to me, I can't put my finger on it and his albums are a little one dimensional. He did, however, produce the magical "Splendour" on Metalheadz and recently had a track with the lovely title of "Most People are Dicks".

I though the Source Direct album was called "Exorcise the Demons" unless it was called something else outwith the UK.

As stated previously in other threads, J Majik's fall from consistent genius to unlistenable bollocks rmains one of the biggest falls from grace by any artist in any genre ever...

Personally, I really like the Flytronix "Archive" LP from 1998: a wee bit conceptual but it features some really nice downtempo stuff and the mighty "Rhode Tune". The recent Makoto album is a lovely summery listen as well.

LTJ Bukem's album and the Big Bud albums on Good looking are also lovely but may be a bit saccharine for some.

But all in all, the genre doesn't suit artist albums - its best moments are found on mix CDs and individual singles.

After all that, I voted for "Parallel Universe" beacuse it changed my whole perception of music - "Power to Move the Very Stars" still makes me tingle...

"Plus has anyone tried listening to the Kemet Crew album from start to finish recently?"

Yeah a probably a year or two ago. Still sounded great to me.

And if the contest were open to compilations, Omni Trio's Next Millenium/Deepest Cut would take the prize.

YES YES YES YES YES YES (except for probably I'd still vote for Panacea but WOW is Deepest Cut about a bazillion orders of magnitude better than the aural shit sandwich that is Haunted Science)

Foul Play for me. It has held up so well.

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There were two Source Direct albums, Controlled Developments released in 1997 and Exorcise the Demons in 1999. Both mine similar territory and CD wins (in my mind) for the final two tracks "Two Masks" and "Capital D" alone

Yay, thanks for putting Haunted Science there, instead of Deepest Cut. I fucking love that album, the way it's so minimalist and moody and deep. I probably wouldn't dance to it, but since we're talking about albums here, that one gets my vote.

Though I might've voted for that Aquasky double album, had than been included. And where's T Power?

Tuomas, why are you voting for a drum-n-bass album that has the emotional content of bland pasta?

Spring Heel Jack, peeps?!

Tuomas, why are you voting for a drum-n-bass album that has the emotional content of bland pasta?

Because to me "emotional content" isn't necessarily the same as "in your face"... But if you fail to see any emotion in Haunted Science I guess it's pointless to argue about it.

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Nah, I'd even mention US drum&weird before them, like Subtropic's Homebrew

where's T-Power?
well, precisely.

Though, to be honest, in my opinion the "bland pasta" metaphor fits Timeless much better. I think Haunted Science cuts it down to minimum amount needed to tug one's strings, whereas Timeless is just water-colour athmospherics and jazz noodling.

Timeless's some week colourless shit, I do agree with that.

Tuomas you haven't listened to Timeless in a while have you? Sure it's got some crap on it, but anything with "Kemistry", "Angel", "This Is A Bad" on it is far from bland.

where's T-Power?

I'm on record in ILM for being a fearless zealot for Self Evident Truth.. and I love Waveforms as well but I just didn't see them standing up to Timeless or New Forms. Too far off the path and zero club play (at least the clubs and parties I went to)

Surprised how little repping Wormholes has received so far, tbqh!

I don't think most people like it!

i listened to wormholes on the strength of vahid's endorsement somewhere. nicely written, vahid. yep. *whistles*

T/F - the album conceit is what killed drum and bass?

False.

Although it didn't help.

I don't think most people like it!

you couldn't go to any dnb night like eclektic and sno core in SF or clandestine here in sj from 98-00 without hearing compound, slip thru, point blank or funktion (which wasnt on the album but was def cut from the same cloth) multiple times a night.

Haha okay I don't think most people on ILM like it!

ok well the reason that i asked the question was because there are some pretty great albums on this list, but i would pick a mix over any of them. first thing that came to mind was kemistry and storm's dj kicks.

"funktion" is awesome.

omg I have Kemistry and Storm's DJ Kicks hidden somewhere in a box, must find it

I played that Photek album a while ago and it's basically everything that Tuomas says the Omni Trio is.

Panacea would have won this in a heartbeat for me.

me, too. and it's cool to see lots of people liked it, didn't seem to be taken seriously when it came out. too german or too dark or something.

also, i would've voted for torque. but i'm just not gonna vote because i don't really know any of the posted albums that well and prefer cheesy one-dimensional DARKNESS.

and of course Shut Up And Dance's Death Is Not The End!

no dnb on this tho, good as much of it is

Peshay's album wasn't bad actually. I love 'Robotics' tho that's an electro track.

waht, you mean SUAD is jungle? Same diff.

practically no jungle on that album either! but yeah, can o pedantic worms...

Okay srsly, how are you differentiating jungle from dnb?

Okay srsly, how are you differentiating jungle from dnb?

One is made by black people from East London, the other is made by posh white boys from the Home Counties. That would certainly be the arbitrary split used by the media

I've never viewed this as meaningful distinction...

i don't even like to recognise the term 'dnb' but as a catch all obv. it's what most people understand.

but the point is listen to 'Death Is Not The End' and you'll hear about 4 rap tracks, 2 techno, 1 ragga, 1 indie, 1 RnB and the remainder a batch of rave tracks at house tempo (to the extent where even referring to them as ardkore seems wrong except). they didn't start making jungle (as we came to know it) until 'Phuck The Biz'* iirc despite laying many of the foundations otherwise and even then at the same time they were still trying to be a pop act with 'Save It Til The Morning After', 'Black Men United' etc.

*not on discogs - none of their mid 90s jungley stuff is listed but I'm sure they did at least one EP (with the aformentioned title) like that?

seems wrong except

meant to say except 'The Green Man'

T/F - the album conceit is what killed drum and bass?

Erm, false - because it's not dead at all.

As mentioned upthread though, very few artists have justified the genre through an album. It's always about individual singles and mixes, always has been, always will be...

The only one of these i still listen to now is "modus operandi" although there are some other drum and bass albums i still like more than the ones on the poll - like "the deepest cut" ffs!

why DO people prefer the sound of 'The Deepest Cut' to Techstep generally then? i guess the former does well to blend general euphoric and happy vibes with tinges of melancholy, whereas Techstep doesn't really bother with either of these and goes for an even more intense but macabre rush - altho people like that with techno so i dunno.

i don't agree with the 'it's not an album genre' thing myself, if only just because i generally ignore LPs across all genres equally.

the length of 'Timeless' never bothered me because it's not like i ever listened to the thing from start to end more than once - after that you just pick and choose what you want when you want as with any album of any length. fuck a 22 minute long opening track tho eh.

a few months back i split 'Mother' up into three parts - partly because the piano in the last third is pretty nice ha. i hadn't listened to it since '98 of course.

actually forget my first paragraph, given that 'Modus Operandi' will probably win this.

I live for the day that one person on ILX agrees with me about the greatness of Dom & Roland's Industry. In some ways I almost do prefer the sound of techstep to earlier stuff, with the proviso that it's techstep done right. Not that much of it was though, e.g. Wormholes is very boring. On the other hand, on the list as presented my next pic would be Controlled Developments. I should check out that Teebee album too.

4 Hero, Goldie, Foul Play, Adam F, Roni Size and Boymerang all also good - Roni Size primarily for disc 2.

I will also defend Spring Heel Jack - There Are Strings was great, and much more straight jungle than people would expect (more so that, say, T-Power's first album)

Haha Steve, I was gonna say it's not so much that people don't like techstep as much as it is people don't like techstep that sucks!

This thread is making me want to pull out all of the albums mentioned in the poll that I own, esp. Source Direct, Photek, Plug and Boymerang.

(To be fair, I think that "Who Are You?" off of Haunted Science is outstanding. I really, really, really hate the rest of the album, though.)

the lack of black secret tech on this list is really a tragedy

i was waiting for that to come up. you know what i think of BST tho.

actually i don't

ha ha i feared you might say that. why does no-one ever listen to meeeee.

well tell us already

the only knocks against it i can think of is the absolutely atrocious mastering

True that. Strongo I take it you heard that Guy Called Gerald tracks only mix by Consumption I think that was doing the rounds a while back. Amazing stuff.

Whenever I put A Guy Called Gerald on comps I mostly use his Can remix and "Mellow Madness", mostly because they sound so much crisper than the album tracks which are of an equivalent quality.

oh yeah, actually that consumption mix is pretty much all the gerald i listen to these days.

an actual LOUD, crisp version of "nazinji-zaka" would stand up with any piece of dance music, from any era and any scene, ever.

the only knocks against it i can think of is the absolutely atrocious mastering

-- strongohulkington, Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:47 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

ugh yes, probably the worst sounding record i own.

there was an old thread where i basically said in not quite so much detail: BST: good concept, radical alien sound signature exciting on paper. radical alien sound signature frustrating in practice generally sounds so strained and distant and kinda cheap, like radio signals in space - but i would prefer it if he'd been able to combine that with better actual drum and esp. bass sounds, would've been even more powerful imo. totally like Derrick May in this respect (awesome style/formula but overplayed). too much of that timestretched chorus effect and it's not really a dancefloor record in my experience (you might argue this of 'Timeless' too, tho that does have the greater sonic depth). so not just the mastering issue. it's a distinctive remakable piece of work but not one i ever wanted to spend much time with.

Anyone else think that Orbital's "Are We Here" is basically a roundabout oedipal A Guy Called Gerald homage?

Steve track down the Consumption mix, it's total dancefloor devastation, or at least in my head!

yeah the lack of bass is frustrating, but the percussion is so remarkably atomized in places that i can't hate. i do agree it's not a dancefloor record at all.

i do get frustrated when i read interviews with gerald where he beefs that he's not been given his due in the history of jungle. maybe you should have spent a few more grand on quality control then, chumpy.

I'm in complete disbelief at the way Shut Up And Dance is hairsplittingly characterized here and I did listen to the album just before posting about it. Surely it's chief among what brought jungle/drum & bass itself into existence! But no, they're "rap, techno, ragga, indie, RnB, rave tracks at house tempo, trying to be pop". Well they are if you deconstruct d&b into all of its' constituent parts, but most tracks on Death Is No The End effortlessly coalesce into a primal 'ardkore soup.

Not most tracks, only about half tops. I just think trying to classify it as a DnB album is silly when it's such an intentionally relatively eclectic work.

"i do get frustrated when i read interviews with gerald where he beefs that he's not been given his due in the history of jungle. maybe you should have spent a few more grand on quality control then, chumpy."

To be fair THAT had more to do with label troubles than any conscious decision to short his mastering budget.

"*not on discogs - none of their mid 90s jungley stuff is listed but I'm sure they did at least one EP (with the aformentioned title) like that?"

SUAD jungle stuff they did on the Red Light label.

xposts re:SUAD,
I think 'intentionally' is one thing but that 'retroactively' offers us a different view.

i don't agree with the 'it's not an album genre' thing myself, if only just because i generally ignore LPs across all genres equally.

Actually, I'm the same and that's probably clouding my opinion.

But I still manitain that no one has ever done themselves or the genre justice over the course of an LP. Take for example Bungle, who has been utterly unstoppable for the last 18 months or so - his recent album really sucks ass and I'm not sure why that is other than there seems to be some concession towards trying to make "songs" rather than "tracks". I remember reading a quote from someone on here once that said (words to the effect of "Oh shutup and stop trying to make music - go back to making a dreadful racket - that's what we pay you for".

I'd like to think that the DEFINITIVE D'n'B LP has yet to be released.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

"I took this seriously and for Klute -- the only DnB artist I can think of who gets better on each successive album-length release. (Not sure if his latest, Emperor's New Clothes, actually tops No One's Listening, but it might. They're both mighty good.)"

Having now heard Emperor's New Clothes I can't agree with this - I was quite disappointed. The beats just aren't that good, and how long can you spend mining the same atmospherics?

For me Klute's never come anywhere close his (often stunning) late nineties work for Certificate 18 - stuff like "Leo 9" and "Silent Weapons".

i don't agree with the "BST is terribly mastered" opinion; it could stand to be a little louder, but that light feathery sound is one of the most distinctive and compelling things about it!

*vip bump plate bizniz*

Voting is closing faster than the clownstep stage at WEMF 2002

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Photek – Modus Operandi 6
Source Direct - Controlled Developments 0

This is wrong.

This whole poll is wrong.

Drum & Bass For Papa WTF?

poll wrongness in abundance

d&b albums?!

hahaha

I am getting bored just thinking of how boring Modus Operandi is.

I guess but New Forms is indeed great.

easily new forms. such a good album. still sounds good today. i think i prefer it even to roni size and crew's 'classic' tracks like 'its jazzy' etc. sort of like what proper jazz-jungle should sound like. but then i dont much like a lot of jazzy (or mellow) jungle/d&b to begin with.

i know everyone says BST but its just too samey really, good as it is. i dont think D&B is really an albums genre though.

Brown Paper Bag!

and pretty much all the remixes on the 12s from new forms were great too!

shame that 2nd album was so awful.

i dont think D&B is really an albums genre though

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I will pick Modus Operandi over New Forms each and every time.

No way.

I don't think I could narrow down "best" but for me it's between:

Omni Trio - The Deepest Cut
A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology
Roni Size/Reprazent - New Forms Disc 2 (not Disc 1!!!)
Dom & Roland - Industry

It wasn't intentional, but I like how the above four offer a reasonable spectrum of the genre (bar ragga and jump-up, which were even less albums-oriented than usual for jungle).

My top four is still the same as above.

Although I forgot about The Deepest Cut up there. That's clearly #5.

I noticed that Steve said this upthread re Black Secret Technology:

"there was an old thread where i basically said in not quite so much detail: BST: good concept, radical alien sound signature exciting on paper. radical alien sound signature frustrating in practice generally sounds so strained and distant and kinda cheap, like radio signals in space - but i would prefer it if he'd been able to combine that with better actual drum and esp. bass sounds, would've been even more powerful imo."

If anything the remastered version goes too far in the other direction - on "Finlay's Rainbow" for example the bass is so loud that it totally swamps the beats. The cleanness of the remastered sound reveals what was obscured on the earlier versions by the crappy production, which is that Gerald evidently never really intended for the beats to be danced to, more to be admired.

I do love the bass sound on the record though, that boomy system-failure bassdrop sound i always associate with Back 2 Basics' "Horns For '94".

(I would take Source Direct over both btw and Panacea's Low Profile Darkness is still my #1.)

(lol obv I wasn't feeling Source Direct as strongly when this poll came up!)

i listened to wormholes on the strength of vahid's endorsement somewhere. nicely written, vahid. yep. *whistles*

― tremendoid, Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:35 PM

this is long in the past now but i am pretty sure i never endorsed this album. i like it OK but it also just sounds like dinosaurs growling at each other.

^^^ haha ouch.

In fairness, that made me want to hear the album!

ram trilogy - molten beats

i always trip on the fact that mike paradinas said this was his favorite d&b LP of all time. i mean ... really?!?

apparently this poll was in the middle of a 2 or 3 week ilx break for me but if i had voted i probably would've voted for either "timeless" or j majik's "slow motion"

"i like it OK but it also just sounds like dinosaurs growling at each other."

In fairness it was rather forward-thinking: perhaps the first drum & bass album to use the exact same beat on every single track.

Hahaha progress.

Spring Heel Jack - There Are Strings + 68 Million Shades are both fantastic DnB LP's.

Sonic Boom on 15th in Seattle has a copy of There Are Strings used right now. it's not that easy to find these days. i've got a 2nd copy too if someone wants to trade.

I had no idea any of their records were rare. There used to be a crazy # of used copies of 68 Million Shades at least at Amoeba.

i browse used cd shops 3-5 times a week and this is the 2nd copy of There Are Strings i've seen used in the last 5 or 6 years. i don't think it would be very expensive online but There Are Strings is much harder to find than 68 Million Shades which, as you say, can be found in crazy #s.

If anything the remastered version goes too far in the other direction - on "Finlay's Rainbow" for example the bass is so loud that it totally swamps the beats. The cleanness of the remastered sound reveals what was obscured on the earlier versions by the crappy production, which is that Gerald evidently never really intended for the beats to be danced to, more to be admired.

Are you talking about the (awful) 1996 remastered version (the one with "Hekkle and Koch" and "Touch Me" as bonus tracks) or the brand new 2008 remaster?

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the Suspensions EP and Versions are also very good. i was a big fan of SHJ until Busy, Curious, Thirsty.
http://www.discogs.com/release/71332
http://www.discogs.com/release/66092

mr snrub, can you confirm that the new remaster is much better than the 96 remaster?

I'm talking about the 2008 version.

The 2008 version is definitely better than the 1996 version, though the difference has been a little overrated in some quarters. Anyone who expects this to suddenly sound like the great lost D&B dancefloor smasher is gonna be disappointed - it's still a surprisingly quiet LP.

I'd say that on the 2008 version the sound quality is a lot better than the 1995 version, but conversely it sounds a lot fuller than the 1996 version.

does dillinja's my sound count? i would have forked over some dough for a comp of the test tracks back in the day.

I'd agree with Tim F regarding the 2008 re-master of BST. Compared to previous editions it is cleaner and the bass is a hell of a lot more pronounced. To be honest, the original copy I had was almost unlistenable to my ears - at least with the new one I can get through it all in one sitting.

Re. Best Drum & Bass LP, I'd have to say Modus Operandi being that it's a permanent fixture on my walkman. As an album it maybe supremely clinical but there's some soul in those beats (somewhere).

What's the difference between the 95 and 97 versions of BST (other than the tracklist)?

it's "remastered"

i've done an A/B with my copies of each (CD) and as far as i can tell it basically just sounds louder

So let me see if I've got this right:

1995 version sounds crappy and quiet
1997 version sounds crappy and slightly louder
2008 version still sounds crappy, but the bass is louder.

the new BST sounds a bit 'punchier' but in that way that a lot of modern remasters sound punchier, as though its been remastered for mp3. not deep or aquatic how it should be sounding.

basically it still sounds a bit 'small'.

I found J Majik's 'Slow Motion' album from 1997. A little bit patchy, but the first two tracks "Subway" and "Gemini" are magnificent: widescreen hyperintricate Source Direct meets Hidden Agenda business.

question for the experts

in 1998 or so I remember seeing DJ Spooky in concert with a live band. overall the music did not come together very well, but I'm still thinking about the drummer. He was basically playing amen breaks live on a regular drum kit, just nailing the grid to the wall -- it didn't swing, he didn't deviate, he was ruthless, and I just basically assumed that within a year everyone would know his name

and probably most people do by now, but I don't! and my googling skills are not up to speed so I thought I'd bring the question here in a wider form -- can anyone on this board recommend recordings of human drummers, unedited, who've basically learned to play drum and bass live? much obliged if so.

ps -- the 1998 drummer, pretty sure it wasn't Karsh Kale -- he had no indian percussion whatsoever, just a straight western trap

likeliest candidate: jojo mayer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh4iK8ZOgDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf3fpULe6Ig

btw this stuff is all over youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b98BJ36K1wo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V-BMhsgNSM

amazing

yeah, pretty much got to be Mayer. I remember moving in as close as I could just to confirm that it really was all coming from him, and seeing how focused and limited his overall bodily movement was, no showboating whatsoever, all the energy was going straight into the focus. but the other players are like that too, it's like you don't have room to move that far if you're going to play -that fast-

thanks jordan!

totally. this is from his dvd, which is pretty much the definitive document on different stick techniques/grips/etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psScSXzqgy0

love that ed rush + optical album so much

at some point I was gonna do a poll of best wormhole 12" and then

sorry to break up the jojo mayer love but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcYtmBbBAY

btw mayer's nerve band never came out with a record when i was checking for one (early '00s when it was still cool to play live d&b). now it looks like they have a couple of dubstep eps out, of course.

mayer reminding me of greg fox from liturgy, dude does blastbeats on a single bass/snare kit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ywPnWF-eDU

The new Klute LP sounds good thus far.

http://soundcloud.com/esppromo/sets/klute-music-for-prophet-lp

I recently realized that my favourite d'n'b LP of all time is this compilation. I have no idea who most of the artists on it are, but the track selection is bloody immaculate!

man I had forgotten that pretty much everything on Drum n Bass for Papa is so hot

just lined up 198 classic era d-n-b tracks to be played in random order with fade in/out to kickstart the weekends excess :

goldie/metalheadz platinum compilations/photek/alex reece/roni size/krust/breakbeat era/grooverider/jonny l/omni trio

i reckon a lot of this stuff still sounds fantastic.

not seen this thread before, so going to check that list out and see what i can pick up from musicmagpie ..

ooh forgot i had that Plug album that ninjatune released of newly discovered old d-n-b tracks which was amazing, and the shy fx album.
237 tracks in the playlist now.