Get Some Perspective: What critically acclaimed records from 2002 do you still listen to regularly?

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Five years on, what P&J-approved stuff still comes out your headphones?

Scarface - The Fix
N.E.R.D. - In Search Of...
Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

Queens of the Stone Age: Songs for the Deaf
Spoon: Kill the Moonlight
Steve Earle: Jerusalem
Soundtrack of Our Lives: Behind the Music

MC, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

There are only three or four albums on that list that I liked at the time - the Sonic Youth, the DJ Shadow, the Missy and the Eminem KINDA. Even then none were favorites of mine, but I think they all hold up pretty well.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

So generic, but Sonic Youth, the Streets, Wilco, Interpol.

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

Wow. I listen to a bunch of those. "Sea Change," "The Eminem Show," "The Rising," "Lifted," "Original Pirate Material," and "A Rush of Blood."

Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

All of none. (I just pulled Electric Circus to sell. I think I listened to it regularly for two weeks.)

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 01:57 (eighteen years ago)

Not a single one (and as it stands I own only three).

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

I think 2002 was around when I decided that most new critically-acclaimed albums sucked.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:06 (eighteen years ago)

From that list, Sleater-Kinney, Spoon and the Truckers. But the best record from that year was probably Lost In Revelry by the Mendoza Line.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

I was gonna say I had no idea Electric Circus got such ink.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

the Boom Selection CD

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

Original Pirate Material's still really great.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:10 (eighteen years ago)

ALWAYS FORGET
http://www.heidieleelocke.com/images/music/heidie33.jpg

gershy, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

Boy, most of the Top 10 is pretty dull.

Mark Rich@rdson, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:17 (eighteen years ago)

uh, Clipse. and Murray Street, once in a while.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:18 (eighteen years ago)

Spoon and Wilco. maybe Interpol, once in a blue moon. I guess Trail of Dead isn't on that list, but if they were I wouldn't listen to them either.

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

god gershy are you posting andrew w.k.'s picture because i get wet is so obviously even more ridiculous in retrospect than beck and sleater kinney and sonic youth and whoever?

i get wet is one of the strongest albums i know from this decade.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

(and I totally loved that Trail of Dead album for a good two or three years after it came out)

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

11. Queens of the Stone Age: Songs for the Deaf (Interscope) 874 (89)
14. Spoon: Kill the Moonlight (Merge) 795 (79)
20. Sonic Youth: Murray Street (DGC) 487 (48)
22. Drive-By Truckers: Southern Rock Opera (Lost Highway) 457 (32)
28. Andrew W.K.: I Get Wet (Island) 374 (38)
31. Scarface: The Fix (Def Jam South) 370 (29)

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:25 (eighteen years ago)

all still okay-to-amazing singles:

1. Missy Elliott: "Work It" (Elektra) 212
3. Nelly: "Hot in Herre" (Fo' Real/Universal) 112
4. The Hives: "Hate to Say I Told You So" (Sire/Burning Heart/Epitaph) 98
6. The White Stripes: "Fell In Love With A Girl" (V2) 72
7. Kylie Minogue: "Can't Get You Out of My Head" (Capitol) 58
9. Rapture: "House of Jealous Lovers" (DFA) 54
10. Tweet: "Oops (Oh My)" (Elektra) 53
11. Queens of the Stone Age: "No One Knows" (Interscope) 51
12. Clipse: "Grindin'" (Star Trak) 50
LCD Soundsystem: "Losing My Edge" (DFA) 29
21. Nas: "Made You Look" (Columbia) 27
24. NORE: "Nothing" (Def Jam) 24
26. Andrew W.K.: "Party Hard" (Island) 2221
32. Scarface: "On My Block" (Def Jam South) 20
33. Justin Timberlake: "Like I Love You" (Jive) 19
35. Cam'ron: "Oh Boy" (Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam) 18

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:26 (eighteen years ago)

beck at #2 does seem pretty funny xpost to tim

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:28 (eighteen years ago)

murray street is my favorite sy album of the last 15 years

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:29 (eighteen years ago)

Shit, that was a good singles year.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:29 (eighteen years ago)

i get wet is probably the greatest formalist piece of art from this decade so far

spoon and qotsa and truckers i listen to less often but still pull them out pretty regular (they've all made better albums)

anyone hating on the fix needs a boot in the ass

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:30 (eighteen years ago)

You left off "Gimme The Light" which is probably my favorite Sean Paul song

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:30 (eighteen years ago)

that's an AMAZINGLY solid top 10 considering

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)

probably the greatest formalist piece of art from this decade so far

: D

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:33 (eighteen years ago)

you, me, and shasta are awk's big ILM defenders i think, tim

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

and tom ewing

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

I kinda like that Dirty Vegas song too, although mostly just for the video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5oqmhVNk3Hg

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

^^ YES

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

NOW HE DANCES TO BRING HER BACK

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:38 (eighteen years ago)

I'll join the AWK club here.

If we're talking about stuff I still listen to regularly (and I'm being honest), there are only 2 out of that list of 40.

I Get Wet and ( )

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:42 (eighteen years ago)

Andrew WK is fantastic, but I don't feel the need to defend him, because I just feel sorry for people who don't get it. Their lives must be devoid of butterflies and sunlight and joy.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

the only album i like on that list is the doves album. but i haven't played it in a long time. i would probably like the andrew wk album too, but i don't own a copy.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:59 (eighteen years ago)

oh wait i liked rings around the world too, but i haven't listened to it since then. which is okay. i wrote a rave review of it at the time. so i must have liked it a lot. though i think i sold my vinyl on ebay. but i think i still have the videos on dvd.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:01 (eighteen years ago)

i liked that blackalicious album for a minute too. then never played it again.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

awk album is definitely great

deej, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

i liked that blackalicious album for a minute too. then never played it again.

Change the bandname around and any one of us has got 95% of the stuff one ever liked covered.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

rave review:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0214,seward,33570,22.html

haven't listened to them since. but i'm okay with that.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

Anrewwk's final single: "took my shot (meant nothin')" with b side: "yesterday forever"

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

still listen to the two gorkiszygoticmynki albums i have though. the acoustic folke one and the one with the soda can on the cover. those are great.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:09 (eighteen years ago)

Sleater-Kinney: One Beat (Kill Rock Stars)
Queens of the Stone Age: Songs for the Deaf (Interscope) (first four songs)
Sonic Youth: Murray Street (DGC) 487 (48)
Drive-By Truckers: Southern Rock Opera (Lost Highway) 457 (32)
Neko Case: Blacklisted (Bloodshot)

...
'twas an insane year for singles

1. Missy Elliott: "Work It" (Elektra) 212
3. Nelly: "Hot in Herre" (Fo' Real/Universal) 112
4. The Hives: "Hate to Say I Told You So" (Sire/Burning Heart/Epitaph) 98
5. Eminem: "Without Me" (Aftermath/Interscope) 90
6. The White Stripes: "Fell In Love With A Girl" (V2) 72
7. Kylie Minogue: "Can't Get You Out of My Head" (Capitol) 58
8. Nirvana: "You Know You're Right" (DGC) 57
9. Rapture: "House of Jealous Lovers" (DFA) 54
10. Tweet: "Oops (Oh My)" (Elektra) 53
11. Queens of the Stone Age: "No One Knows" (Interscope) 51
12. Clipse: "Grindin'" (Star Trak) 50
14. Jimmy Eat World: "The Middle" (DreamWorks) 35
Norah Jones: "Don't Know Why" (Blue Note) 29
Avril Lavigne: "Complicated" (Arista) 29
21. Nas: "Made You Look" (Columbia) 27
22. Dirty Vegas: "Days Go By" (Capitol) 26
26. Andrew W.K.: "Party Hard" (Island) 22
32. Scarface: "On My Block" (Def Jam South) 20
Sean Paul: "Gimme The Light" (VP) 18
No Doubt: "Hey Baby" (Interscope)

milo z, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:11 (eighteen years ago)

the flaming lips and sleater-kinney albums definitely still do it for me. the wilco i can take or leave, but that's probably because i played it to death in 2002/2003.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 03:20 (eighteen years ago)

I also like the Flaming Lips and Queens of the Stone Age albums. Never listen to them, though. I think I wore out Songs for the Deaf, and it's rare that I'm the right shade of melancholy for the battling of pink robots. And, come to think of it, I listen to The Wolf way more than I Get Wet. I Get Wet did keep me from falling asleep and crashing my car on the way home from Ozzfest one year, though, so I will forever be grateful to it for that.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 04:16 (eighteen years ago)

Not like critical acclaim has ever had any effect on my listening habits, of course...

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 04:17 (eighteen years ago)

I've actually been re-discovering and enjoying Super Furry Animals-Rings Around The World. Maybe because they have a new album coming out soon. Also the obvious ones: Spoon, Interpol, Streets; Blazing Arrow by Blackalicious is still great too. Hate to say it but after "I Get Wet," AWK has done nothing for me... :(

pacifikix, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 04:25 (eighteen years ago)

i still love yankee hotel foxtrot. wilco's easy-rock phase got off to such a good start. original pirate material is obv. classic too. i never heard the streets' last album; did it have any hard menacing tracks like "geezers need excitement"?

and yoshimi is one of my fav summer albums.

aaron d.g., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 04:42 (eighteen years ago)

8. Nirvana: "You Know You're Right" (DGC) 57

WORST SONG EVER RECORDED BY ANYONE

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 04:43 (eighteen years ago)

I still like "You Know You're Right."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 05:25 (eighteen years ago)

N.E.R.D. and QOTSA. Surprising, because I didn't think either of those were all that great when they first came out. and I still quite like Original Pirate Material. I should go dig that one out again soon.

Those singles though... a whole bunch of those are still fantastic.

Roz, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 05:49 (eighteen years ago)

Wilco, EC, Spoon, SY. I don't think I heard any of those besides EC in 2002 (maybe Spoon at the end of the year). The only one I used to listen to a bit but don't any more is 2 Many DJ's.

These Robust Cookies, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

that nerd album rules

deej, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 06:15 (eighteen years ago)

Not a single one (and as it stands I own only three).

-- Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:04 (4 hours ago) Link

Which three, Ned?

stephen, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 07:03 (eighteen years ago)

3. The Flaming Lips: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
4. The Streets: Original Pirate Material
11. Queens of the Stone Age: Songs for the Deaf
15. Interpol: Turn on the Bright Lights
25. Sigur Ros: ( )

( ) the most, easily. (I think it's their best)

StanM, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 07:08 (eighteen years ago)

StanM, let me buy you a drink. I think ours is a very small group ("people who think ( ) is the best one").

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 07:20 (eighteen years ago)

I have the Missy, Coldplay, Blackalicious, & Cee-Lo. Under Construction is the only one of those I can picture myself ever listening to again, though it might not hurt to pull out Blazing Arrow sometime. The Cee-Lo album is one of the worst things I've ever heard. As much flack as the Gnarls project gets around here, I'd take it in a heartbeat over Perfect Imperfections. The years to either side fare much better.

Singles (I'm excluding some I haven't really heard since they came out, mall-punk contingent SOL):

Missy Elliott: "Work It" (Elektra) 212
Eminem: "Lose Yourself" (Aftermath/Interscope) 113
Nelly: "Hot in Herre" (Fo' Real/Universal) 112
The Hives: "Hate to Say I Told You So" (Sire/Burning
The White Stripes: "Fell In Love With A Girl" (V2) 72
Kylie Minogue: "Can't Get You Out of My Head" (Capitol)
Rapture: "House of Jealous Lovers" (DFA) 54
Tweet: "Oops (Oh My)" (Elektra) 53
Clipse: "Grindin'" (Star Trak) 50
Norah Jones: "Don't Know Why" (Blue Note) 29
LCD Soundsystem: "Losing My Edge" (DFA) 29
Vines: "Get Free" (Capitol) 29
Nas: "Made You Look" (Columbia) 27
Dirty Vegas: "Days Go By" (Capitol) 26
NORE: "Nothing" (Def Jam) 24
Andrew W.K.: "Party Hard" (Island) 22
No Doubt: "Hella Good" (Interscope) 22
Truth Hurts: "Addictive" (Aftermath/Interscope) 21
Scarface: "On My Block" (Def Jam South) 20
Justin Timberlake: "Like I Love You" (Jive) 19
Cam'ron: "Oh Boy" (Roc-A-Fella/Def Jam) 18
Sean Paul: "Gimme The Light" (VP)

The Reverend, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 07:32 (eighteen years ago)

w/r/t singles:

i dj'd jaxon and mrs. jaxon's wedding and that's essentially the playlist of the party section.

Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 07:41 (eighteen years ago)

still think '02 was the best singles year of the decade so far, but without looking at the albums list I'd say it's been at least two years since I played an '02 album, because I'm busy listening to '07 albums. (this applies for every other year that isn't this one, really, and I'm sure this is true for many of you as well.)

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 07:51 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah that's still a glorious singles list* but the albums list is so lumpen and dull.

*Curious Nirvana anomaly notwithstanding. Hands up if you'd forgotten that You Know You're Right even existed.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 08:15 (eighteen years ago)

*hand up*

Display Name, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 08:24 (eighteen years ago)

andrew wk is fucking vile.

the only album i still listen to from that list is missy elliott.

the singles list is amazing but um what IS that nirvana track in the top 10? did they...reform briefly or something? or is it some lost track they dug up? uh? i am pretty much 100% sure that whatever it is, it doesn't deserve to be higher than tweet.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 08:27 (eighteen years ago)

why are 'gimme the light' and 'addictive' so low down the singles list

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 08:28 (eighteen years ago)

did they...reform briefly or something?

Yeah, sure. That's what happened.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 08:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm no mathematician, but I'm guessing not enough people voted for 'em.

xpost

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 08:36 (eighteen years ago)

Listen to regularly: none

Liked at the time:
11. Queens of the Stone Age: Songs for the Deaf (Interscope) 874 (89)
17. Bright Eyes: Lifted, or The Story Is in the Soil, Keep Your Ear to the Ground (Saddle Creek) 655 (58)
19. N.E.R.D.: In Search of ... (Virgin) 516 (57)
23. Neko Case: Blacklisted (Bloodshot) 455 (45)
26. 2 Many DJ's: As Heard on Radio Soulwax Pt. 2 (Pias import) 414 (34)
29. Super Furry Animals: Rings Around the World (XL) 374 (33)

NERD was actually my album of 2001 but my copy is in a slipcase tucked away somewhere that's hard to pull stuff out of. I am dumb.

I found the AWK album hugely disappointing when it came out, considering that I thought the concept of AWK was pretty genius, but I found this NME 'album of the year' CD at the weekend with Party Til You Puke on and it was kinda great! I think maybe he needs to be enjoyed in one-track explosions

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 08:49 (eighteen years ago)

Neko Case, Clinic, Yeah Yeah Yeahs.

But to some extent, isn't there a natural dip a work here? I have found the following model useful for describing the popularity of popular music:

http://www.ayeconference.com/wiki/scribble.cgi?read=HypeCycle

"Loser" was the Technology Trigger. In 1992, Beck was at the Peak of Inflated Expectation. Now he's in the Trough of Disillusionment (Scientologist, you know...). But he seems like the type who might enter a Plateu of Productivity, along the lines of M.E.S or Tom Waits. Go Beck, number 14 on P&J 2009!

To bring about Slope of Enlightenment, consider: Johnny Cash's cover of "Rowboat."

bendy, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

Best album on that list:

Drive-By Truckers: Southern Rock Opera (Lost Highway)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:40 (eighteen years ago)

the 'best of...' came out and YOU KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT was issued as a promo video / single to plug said comp. not an official single though.

pisces, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

Not a single one (and as it stands I own only three).

-- Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 02:04 (4 hours ago) Link

This is especially bad since Ned is a critic.

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:49 (eighteen years ago)

the albums on the list are boring. the singles are worthy but ever so slightly dull.

Filey Camp, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:53 (eighteen years ago)

I own 13. I like... maybe three?

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:54 (eighteen years ago)

xp Well, critics have an obligation to keep up with new stuff, which reduces the time available to listen to five-year-old records, or ten-year-old records, or 20-year-old records, no matter how much you care about them. I love the Drive By Truckers album and like the Streets one a lot, but it's probably been at least a couple years since I played either all the way through. And I'm not sure why that would be strange -- unless you've only got a few albums, and you're never getting new ones (or buying new old ones), I'm not sure how you can be pulling out all the old ones you love all the time. (Singles are a lot easier, since you can hear those by accident.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:57 (eighteen years ago)

So, let me see if I can twist what you're saying: music is an incredible waste of money, for many of us on par with going to the movies 4-6 times per month AND getting the popcorn and giant coke. And we shouldn't listen to critics because they get their music for free.

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:05 (eighteen years ago)

:-D

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:06 (eighteen years ago)

a lack of interest in the albums on this turgid list = mark of a good critic

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

xp Yeah, that's twisting what I said (into something that has nothing to do with what I said) all right, dean ge. (And I don't even go to half that many movies in a year. But Netflix is useful. And you can listen to whoever you want to listen to, and spend whatever money you want. There's still lots of great dollar bins out there, full of albums as good or better than anything on that list. So go for it.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

I still enjoy listening to music from 2 generations of adolescence prior to my own. If music doesn't last 5 years, I question whether it was good to begin with.

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:15 (eighteen years ago)

xp, I know. I was just having fun.

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:16 (eighteen years ago)

if music doesn't last 5 years, I question whether it was good to begin with.

oh god people still think this

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

Nobody said it "didn't last"; I wish I had time to listen to the DBT album. That was my point.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:20 (eighteen years ago)

if music doesn't last 5 years, I question whether it was good to begin with.

oh god people still think this

"Think this?" All these albums that I heard at friends or at rocker bars, etc. I thought only a few were pretty cool and none compelled me to buy them.

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

For whatever it's worth, most of them were never good to begin with.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, old or not, if you actually like an album, you generally find time to listen to it. Like, right in the middle of a new album, if it's not doing it for you! I put newer stuff in all the time and after about 10 minutes decide it's not doing it for me and then put in something I've heard a million times because I like it. Just like those old guys with their Sinatra. :-)

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

It must be hard to be a critic, because I also play the other side, often feeling that critics are way too harsh with way too high standards.

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah all those Wilco-loving critics with their impossible high standards.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:53 (eighteen years ago)

I drank 4 beers last night.
They were nice
One was kinda hoppy
Today i feel a bit dehydrated
I dont think i'll drink tonite
I just dont fancy it
Perhaps they weren't such good beers after all

Filey Camp, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:54 (eighteen years ago)

2003 albums list is actually a lot better despite featuring the Unspeakable Racist Double Album at #1. I mean, it actually begins to reflect what people were actually listening to that year for a start.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah? Jesus. Look at Metacritic averages - the grading curve for music reviews is INSANELY generous compared to films. Critics are way too SOFT if you ask me. Myself included.

Triple-X.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

The CoM 2002 top ten:

10 CASSETTEBOY The Parker Tapes
9 TWEET Southern Hummingbird
8 THE STREETS Original Pirate Material
7 ROB DOUGAN Furious Angels
6 MY COMPUTER Vulnerabilia
5 DEREK BAILEY Ballads
4 COMMON Electric Circus
3 THE ROOTS Phrenology
2 SUICIDE American Supreme
1 EL-P Fantastic Damage

I'd probably reorder it a bit (Ballads really ought to have come top) but there's nothing I'd sling out and I think all ten albums have stood up pretty well.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

In retrospect, 2002 looks like an especially bad year. I still listen to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, Phrenology, and Rachid Taha's Live pretty frequently, and Blacklisted, and Kill The Moonlight once in a while. My son still loves Yoshimi a lot. If I look at 2001 or 2003, though, there are a whole bunch of things I still listen to. '02 was just an off year for artists I like -- it didn't help that One Beat is the only Sleater-Kinney record I never listen to.

Vornado, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)

My top ten for the Stylus 2002 end--of-year poll;

01. Lambchop- Is A Woman
02. Wilco- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
03. Akufen- My Way
04. Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man- Out Of Season
05. The Delgados- Hate
06. The Streets- Original Pirate Material
07. Queens Of The Stone Age- Songs For The Deaf
08. Idlewild- The Remote Part
09. Elvis Costello- When I Was Cruel
10. Sigur Ros- ( )

I still like about three, maybe four, of them.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

diamond princess by trina was the best album of 2002. i still listen to it loads. the reason y'all think it was a shit year is because you were listening to wilco. like, duh.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

ah i'd forgotten that beth gibbons album! that was great.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

OPM is £1 in the Soho MVE basement at the moment, FYI!

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

and you get a pound back if you take A Grand Don't Come For Free with it.

blueski, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

What I said about Diamond Princess in the selfsame list:

22 TRINA Diamond Princess
She's sassy and takes no shit and this year was better at doing it than some of the people who guested on this superb guttate orgasm of an R&B record.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

My post, now with added coherence:

But to some extent, isn't there a natural dip at work here? I have found the following model useful for describing the popularity of popular music:

http://www.ayeconference.com/wiki/scribble.cgi?read=HypeCycle

"Loser" was the Technology Trigger. In 2002, Beck was at the Peak of Inflated Expectation....

bendy, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps they weren't such good beers after all

Of course they weren't. Alcohol is bad for you and drinking it is being under the illusion it is filling a void in your life. Believing it quenches your thirst is a lie, too. So, they weren't such good beers after all.

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

I knew i should have stayed in

Filey Camp, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

If "fun while it lasted" is how you judge whether or not something is "good," then it's time to Get Some Perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRhHQM4eMXg

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

From the albums, I own Wilco, Interpol, Neko Case, Doves, Linda Thompson, Clinic and Yeah Yeah Yeahs. From the singles, just the Interpol one - I can't say I'm into 'pop'. I quickly burned out on Wilco, Clinc and Yeah Yeah Yeahs but the Neko Case still gets regular playtime with the rest occasionally.

My 2002 list:
Wire - Read & Burn 01/02
Reindeer Section - Son Of Evil Reindeer
Mestar - Porcupine
Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
AC Acoustics - O
Polak - Rubbernecking
Max Eider - Hotel Figueroa
Cinerama - Torino
Wilco - Yankee Foxtrot Hotel
Cary Caitlin - While You Weren't Looking

...and a good year it was. I still love all those records.

Mr. Odd, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

The only one of these albums I've listened to more than once since it came out is Southern Rock Opera. I'd probably put that on more often if it weren't a double album.

DBTs are required driving music for areas of north Alabama I occasionally traverse.

Brad C., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

this was my pazz & jop:

Albums
# artist title label points
1 Opeth Deliverance Koch 10
2 Wipers Wipers Box Set Zeno 10
3 Northern State Hip Hop You Haven't Heard Northern State 10
4 DJ Erik B Club CD Vol. 11 Club Kingz 10
5 Dälek From Filthy Tongue Of Gods And Griots Ipecac 10
6 Knuckletracks XLIII Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles 10
7 Doves The Last Broadcast Capitol 10
8 Non Phixion The Future Is Now Uncle Howie 10
9 Electric Wizard Let Us Prey Rise Above 10
10 Missy Elliott Under Construction Elektra 10

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

i haven't listened to that northern state Ep since then, but i've listened to the other stuff since then. i might not own that northern state thing anymore though.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

"Sea Change", "A Rush Of Blood To The Head" and "Yoshimi" obv.
The Doves one isn't quite as great today as it was when it was new though.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

one record that doesn't get nearly enough credit from 2002 is Richard Buckner's Impasse -- I don't think it was #1 on my list that year, but it may be the one I return to most often. An amazing, amazing album.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

Re-listened to The Private Press and the Sleater-Kinney album recently; they held up just fine.

As others have pointed out, the sheer awesomeness of 2002's singles means they STILL get lots of play on my iPod.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

My top ten for the Stylus 2002 end--of-year poll;

01. Lambchop- Is A Woman
02. Wilco- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
03. Akufen- My Way
04. Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man- Out Of Season
05. The Delgados- Hate
06. The Streets- Original Pirate Material
07. Queens Of The Stone Age- Songs For The Deaf
08. Idlewild- The Remote Part
09. Elvis Costello- When I Was Cruel
10. Sigur Ros- ( )

I still like about three, maybe four, of them.

Akufen and Rustin Man are almost certainly still great but I don't have time for them either :(

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

(Singles are a lot easier, since you can hear those by accident.)

Which is how I've heard what 2002 singles I have again, pretty much. Far more interesting to do so that way than by intent; it often catches me off guard and forces a rethink in some cases.

As for the three albums in the poll I still have -- the SFA, Sonic Youth, Drive-By Truckers. (I think I only owned five to start with.) Chuck having explained the dynamic about not going back to these things, I won't bother repeating it, but this year has been great for me in terms of listening to all kinds of random new things and very obscure old things, so between them caring about albums from five years back that left very little impact is low on my list of concerns.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

I still love Yoshimi and play it along with Soft Bulletin and other FL stuff a few times every 4-5 months or so. YHF holds up pretty well, too. I get excited about the first couple tracks on the Interpol album maybe twice a year, and then tend to get a little bored it and skip around the rest.

StanM, let me buy you a drink. I think ours is a very small group ("people who think ( ) is the best one").

-- Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 07:20 (7 hours ago) Link

I'll gladly take a drink too. I definitely think ( ) is their best. I haven't played it in quite a while, though.

But the rest of that list is a little dull.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

from that list: scarface, spoon, hives

I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that it's been FIVE years. What have I been doing with my life?

will, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

Posting on here, obviously!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

:D

will, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

NOBODY else repping for Orchestra Baobab? Beautiful CD that stands the test of time, and maybe the best concert I saw that year.

Dan Peterson, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

havent heard any of those

, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Ned, I would never have pegged you as a Drive-By Truckers guy. You don't think it sounds a little too Neil Young/Bruce Springsteen/Lynyrd Skynyrd for your tastes?

stephen, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

Of that list, I still own the Wilco, Missy Elliott, Sonic Youth, Blackalicious, and Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Probably the one I've listened to most recently is the Missy - and the one I've listened to the most is the Sonic Youth.

Other albums from 2002 that I've listened to more than any on this list: Ellen Allien weiss.mix, FM Knives Useless & Modern, and Mihaly Dresch and Archie Shepp Hungarian Bebop.

o. nate, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

Ned, I would never have pegged you as a Drive-By Truckers guy. You don't think it sounds a little too Neil Young/Bruce Springsteen/Lynyrd Skynyrd for your tastes?

Bruce = nyurgh and Neil Young is mostly there for me, a couple of songs aside, but Lynyrd I'm fine with -- classic rock hangover of my youth but I won't deny it -- and the whole concept of the 'rock opera' is actually nicely handled, though in ways it was one of the inadvertant heralds of the world that now gives us Decembrists stage shows. That said I probably more admire this album than love it in the end, and it feels like a sound and style's requiem.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

lynyrd skynrd are better than all the albums on that list, and most of the singles

Filey Camp, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Avaunt and quit my sight.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

though in ways it was one of the inadvertant heralds of the world that now gives us Decembrists stage shows.

okay, no

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

stop talking

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

:-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

These four still get considerable play.

1. Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
5. Sleater-Kinney: One Beat
22. Drive-By Truckers: Southern Rock Opera
23. Neko Case: Blacklisted

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

Orchestra Baobab is the only one from that list that I still pull out and play.

If they were all sitting on a shelf in front of me now, I'd either pull out The Roots or Doves.

Of albums not mentioned, Salif Keita's Mouffou still gets played, as does Norah Jones when Old People come round for supper.

A track from the Beth Gibbons album came up on shuffle this morning, and sounded lovely.

Ought to get round to excavating Herrmann & Kleine Our Noise, DJ Shadow The Private Press, Jim O'Rourke Insignificance.

Singles with legs:
doves – there goes the fear
pet shop boys – home and dry
truth hurts featuring rakim – addictive
queens of the stone age – no one knows
frou frou – breathe in
tweet – oops (oh my)

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

I probably play YYYs, DJ Shadow, and Sonic Youth annually or a little less.

Albums I play more from '02 are:

Max Tundra - Mastered by Guy at the Exchange
Ekkehard Ehlers Plays
Sparks - Lil' Beethoven
Wire - Read & Burn 01 & 02
Enon - High Society
RJD2 - Deadringer
Tom Waits - Blood Money

eatandoph, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

I own the Beth Gibbons album. I wind up listening to it about once a year to see if I can figure out why anybody ever liked it. I can't. Or at least haven't, yet.

Vornado, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

I can't see how that DBT album is anything like Springsteen. Then again, I like the Truckers, and think Bruce should be pumping gas somewhere.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

I actually just listened to all of these singles in succession and partied in my chair. It was awesome.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

Was there an ILM poll?

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

i like the new andrew wk okay....it reminds me of if rob zombie and eddie money made a record together.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

While "The Last Broadcast" isn't quite as great as it used to, let me second "There Goes The Fear" as a still excellent-sounding single.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

21. Nas: "Made You Look"

Thread title keeps putting this in my head :/

bnw, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

The ILX Readers Poll 2002 - RECORDS OF THE YEAR

djmartian, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

Things I still listen to:

Sea Change - When it's a sunny day but I want to feel dreary and sad.
Coldplay - When it's a dreary day but I want to feel like I died yesterday.
DJ Shadow - When I want to be reminded of how much Shadow disappointed me.
Common - When I want to be reminded that rapping off beat is annoying
Norah Jones - When I want to be reminded to just listen to some Ella instead.

humansuit, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

Stuff from 2002 that I can recall playing in the last 6 months or so:

the Black Keys - the Big Come Up
Boards of Canada - Geogaddi
Low - Trust
Neko Case - Blacklisted
Spoon - Kill the Moonlight
Wire - Read & Burn 01/02

stephen, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

OH RIGHT, and of course -

Mclusky Do Dallas

stephen, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

Under Construction
Murray Street
Come Away With Me

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

2002 is a hard year for albums as per everyone else in this thread, BUT:

Immer
Original Pirate Material
Under Construction
Textstar
Fever
NEW TRINA! (Diamond Princess)
Murray Street
Finnisterre

Tim F, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

Here's how far behind I am: I'm still looking (not that hard, admittedly) for cheap copies of the Wilco, Spoon, Bright Eyes, Neko Case, Best Bootlegs In The World, and 2 Many DJs albums (just got the Super Furry Animals one shipped to me on Lala today!). Of the ones I have, I probably enjoy The Streets, DJ Shadow and N.E.R.D. the most, but that don't mean I listen to them a whole lot.

Patrick, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

My Pazz & Jop ballot:

Albums
# artist title label points
1 Rocket from the Tombs The Day the Earth Met The Rocket from the Tombs Smog Veil 15
2 Drive-By Truckers Southern Rock Opera Lost Highway 14
3 Lifter Puller Soft Rock Self-Starter Foundation 13
4 Styrenes It's Still Artastic ROIR 10
5 Epop Version_01: Point of View Epic 10
6 Northern State Dying In Stereo Northern State 9
7 Field Mob From tha Roota to tha Toota MCA 8
8 Gore Gore Girls Up All Night Get Hip 8
9 Toby Keith Unleashed DreamWorks 7
10 The Streets Original Pirate Material Locked On/Vice 6

Singles
# artist title label
1 Ty Herndon "Heather's Wall" Epic
2 Faith Hill "One" Warner Bros.
3 Cordelia's Dad "Camille's Not Afraid of the Barn" Kimchee
4 Missy Elliott "Work It" Elektra
5 T.A.T.U. "All the Things She Said" Interscope
6 LeAnn Rimes "Life Goes On" Curb
7 Truth Hurts "Addictive" Aftermath/Interscope
8 Paulina Rubio "The Last Goodbye" Universal
9 Bomfunk MCs "Freestyler" Sony International
10 P.O.D. "Youth of the Nation" Atlantic

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah that Field Mob album is fabulous.

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)

why so little love for the interpol?

walter benjamin, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 07:24 (eighteen years ago)

Interpol are insufficient.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 07:26 (eighteen years ago)

interpol were the last boys-with-guitars band i really liked!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 07:39 (eighteen years ago)

There are hundreds and hundreds of current boys-with-guitars bands that are way better than Interpol.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

There are actually just over two thousand

Filey Camp, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot has grown on me since its release, and I like Kill The Moonlight. I listen to some of the songs off When I Was Cruel occasionally, but it's generally not my first EC choice. As far as albums not on the list, I still play the Cynics' Living Is The Best Revenge, Superdrag's Last Call For Vitriol and the first half of Weezer's Maladroit.

Fitzcarraldo, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

I think the problem with that albums list is that, with a few exceptions (eg Coldplay) it reads like a 'Music Only Critics Like' parody list.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

But A Rush Of Blood was the NME critics' album of the year in 2002!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't get how Coldplay are an "exception."

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

Music Only Critics Like?

Filey Camp, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

You wouldn't know it from the P&J list but 2002 was a really good year. The albums I still listen to didn't make the poll.

The Notwist - Neon Golden
Nina Nastasia - The Blackened Air
My Computer - Vulnerabilia
Rob - Satyred Love
Plush - Fed
Arto Lindsay - Invoke
Nação Zumbí
Out Hud - S.T.R.E.E.T. D.A.D.
Schneider TM - Zoomer
Domenico +2 - Sincerely Hot
Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man - Out Of Season
The Libertines - Up The Bracket
Ampop - Made For Market

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

Angels With Dirty Faces, The Joy of Sing-Sing and You Forgot It In People (out in Canada in 2002) are all great too.

2for25, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

the use of the phrase "boys with guitars" by the lex feels like a diminutive aimed at characterizing rock and roll, in general, as something small - a trifle. rock and roll, at its best, has been anything but small.

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

well, that's the intent

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

it's a pretty weak rhetorical device. but keep on rockin' in the free world, homie.

strongohulkington, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

I listen to a lot of individual songs from those P'n'J albums (and of course plenty of the singles), but Turn On The Bright Lights is the only one I play in its entirety frequently.

da croupier, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

stella i love you!

walter benjamin, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

not from that list but album i still like/love from 2002:

Pedro the Lion - Control
Wilco - YFH
The Notwist - Neon Golden
The Libertines - Up The Bracket
Spoon - Kill the Moonlight
Doves - the Last Broadcast
Sigur Rós - ( )
Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It in People
The Walkmen - Everyone Who Pretended to Like Me Is Gone
Desaparecidos - Read Music/Speak Spanish
Badly Drawn Boy - About A Boy
The Electric Soft Parade - Holes in the Wall
Baxter Dury - Len Parrot's Memorial Lift
John Vanderslice - the Life and Death of an American Fourtracker
JJ72 - I to Sky

Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Doves and (way up high) Wilco are on the list; I'm pretty sure Notwist and Libertines came out in the U.S. (and scored in the P&J poll) a year later.

25 more good ones from 2002 that I don't think anybody has mentioned yet:

Montgomery Gentry – My Town (Columbia)
Copperhead – Live & Lost (Eastwinds)
Dixie Chicks – Home (Open Wide/Sony)
Brazen Hussies – Brazen Hussies (peoplesound.com/artist/brazenhussies EP)
Hurricane Mason – Cast Iron Constitution (DitchBoy)
Daniel Bedingfield – Gotta Get Thru This (Polydor)
Bad Company UK – Shot Down On Safari (BC Recordings/Human Imprint Recordings)
Mushroom With Gary Floyd – Mad Dogs & San Franciscans (Black Beauty)
Lil’ Wayne – 500 Degreez (Cash Money/Universal)
McEnroe – Disenfranchized (Peanuts & Corn)
Ms. Jade – Girl Interrupted (Beat Club/Interscope)
Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso U.F.O.- In C (Squealer)
Jessica Lurie Ensemble - !Zipa Buka! (Zipa! Music)
Tim McGraw – Tim McGraw (Curb)
Morel – Queen Of The Highway (Yoshitoshi Recordings)
Mindy McCready - Mindy McCready (Capitol)
Roscoe Mitchell & The Note Factory – Song For My Sister (Pi Recordings)
Allison Moorer – Miss Fortune (Universal South)
Cordelia’s Dad – What It Is (Kimchee)
Faith Hill – Cry (Warner Bros.)
The Charms – Charmed I’m Sure (Red Car)
Last Days Of May – Inner System Blues (Squealer)
Groovski – Groovski (groovski.com)
Nada Surf – Let Go (Barsuk)
Babasonicos – Jessico (Delanuco)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

Polak - Rubbernecking

...and a good year it was. I still love all those records.

-- Mr. Odd

love that album as well but probably only Mr. Odd and i are the only ones.

forgot a few like Nada Surf and the Delgados, good year.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

the lightning bolt album from that year is one i've kept, too

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

i really like that truth hurts song

max, Sunday, 8 July 2007 05:27 (eighteen years ago)

rakim is very good at rapping

max, Sunday, 8 July 2007 05:28 (eighteen years ago)

rakim is very good at rapping

-- max, Sunday, 8 July 2007 05:28 (49 minutes ago) Link

RONG

deej, Sunday, 8 July 2007 06:19 (eighteen years ago)

jk obv, qft

deej, Sunday, 8 July 2007 06:19 (eighteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

Unlikely revive but I can’t recall what I was looking for that led me here.

To answer the question: Beth Gibbons’ Out of Season is still a classic to me that I play around this time of year.

Artists that released albums in 2002 I was crazy about back then but very rarely feel like playing nowadays: the notwist, boards of canada, broken social scene, iron and wine, murcof, kevin drumm, low, do make say think, clinic, tom waits and derek bailey. I still play songs from their respective 2002 albums, but it’s been years since I play them without breaks or have been really excited about them, yet I played them obsessively back then.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 November 2019 07:01 (six years ago)


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