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have any record reviews stuck themselves in yr pretty little head?

Ron, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been thinking of this opening line to a review of the "Dude where's my car?" ST:

'There are some killer soundtracks out there, dude, and this ain't one of them.'

This review also contained the following sentiment: 'including Young MC's Bust a Move (Don't just stand there fatso, BUST A MOVE!! Sweet!!!)

Ron, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if we're talking "talking about records", then search: greil marcus in lipstick traces on the "untitled" slits 12". maybe the only piece of music writing to make me feel actually impoverished for never having heard it. (i still havent!) ian penman on tricky (and his missy review in the wire last summer which i'm coming around to the fact that it's a great piece of writing.) uh, ron can we extend this to just music writing in general so i can talk about more stuff?

jess, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

actually here i found the review

http://www.thestranger.com/2001-01-18/cd_revue.html

Ron, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I know I can think of something better but the first two things that came to mind were Christgau slamming Enya last Thanksgiving and Metal Mike Saunders reviewing the second Britney LP awhile back.

J Blount, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Brent D. on KID A!!

keiko, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I remember Smash Hits reviewing an early Simple Minds album, Reel to Reel Caccophony, I believe. It came out before Christmas and they gave it 6 out of 10 and a moderate review. The reviewer came back after the Xmas break and the record was reviewed again. The new review went something like: 'I know I shouldn't do this but I've been listening to this album over Xmas and...' He went on to wax lyrical and 6 had become 9 out of ten!

Daniel, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

tons of them. Christgau tops 'em all, most notably with his first Eagles review, two grafs detailing what makes 'em good at what they do followed by the third graf killer: "Another thing that interests me about the Eagles is that I hate them." (I once read this to a friend over the phone when we were both 13. He accused me of rehearsing my delivery. He was right.) Also, his D'Angelo live review, which seems to have disappeared from the Web altogether, lifted me out of my chair upon contact and still does.

M Matos, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

jess, of course, talk about whatever you will!

(to all)links would be encouraged so I can experience directly what yr referring to...

Ron, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(i should have remembered that with so many music writers around, people would react to the question differently than me, which is of course wonderful :-) jess i saw a penman review of maxinquaye, is that what you were talking about? it's great writing)

Ron, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Frequently I find that Greil Marcus's descriptions of certain songs are more interesting than the songs themselves.

Justyn Dillingham, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

J.D. Considine's entire review of the self-titled debut of Steve Howe's prog wankarama band, GTR: "SHT"

lee g, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Christgau's Consumer Guide on Nirvana's _In Utero_ is several kinds of masterpiece. And as far as actually sticking in my head, I frequently have to stop myself from ripping off his take on the Ramones' _Leave Home_ verbatim.

Also, Monica Kendrick on the Stooges' "Fun House Sessions" box, from the Chicago Reader.

Incidentally, yes, the Slits' untitled record really is that good.

Douglas, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Similar to the "GTR" thing:

"Yes? Maybe." -Lester Bangs, on everyone's favorite prog rockers.

Nate Patrin, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"maybe the only piece of music writing to make me feel actually impoverished for never having heard it. (i still havent!)"

Rough Trade (I think) released a Lipstick Traces album containing many of the songs in the book. After reading the book, which I loved, I bought the album. I've listened to it about three times--on none of those occasions have I heard the Western value system crashing around my ears, unfortunately. The Slits track was particularly disappointing, actually.

This didn't make me like the book any less. But for the most part, I do enjoy Griel Marcus' work more for the writing and the ideas in themselves than for any relation they may have to the music under discussion. (See also: Marcus on Bob Dylan).

Ben Williams, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

since i'm largely broke at any given time and never really paid attention to music writing before i turned 18 or 19, most of my (pre- internet) music writing comes from books. (i.e. i don't have stacks of early 80s NME's or late 80s MM's or Creem's from the 70s, hell even many zines...)

ron, the piece i was thinking of was penman's essay in the wire, which is here. there's also penman's "demolition" of zappa here. simon reynold's on 2- step (one of the best pieces of "scene writing" i've ever read) and UK pirate radio (the transcript of DJ dialogue alone is worth it.) mark s on cecil taylor. frank kogan's Death Rock 2000. Tom and Maura's I hate indie kids rant. Tom on Morrisey. Tracer's piece on peggy lee which may be my favorite thing FT has ever published.

for stuff not online...too much to mention. i am not a fan of richard meltzer by and large, but "vinyl reckoning" is just massive: a cry of loss and pain and resentment across forty years. bangs, blah blah: the usual suspects, "james taylor m for d," "psychotic reactions...," his pieces on Metal Machine Music...

jess, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

lee - i at first thought that you were saying "SHT" was the title of the review! I then realized that's the review. Very Nice!!

Ron, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Another one - Meltzer reviewing Redd Foxx

J Blount, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Presumably the ref. point for "Shit Sandwich". Never knew that.

That Christgau piece on The Eagles is really, really good. Which surprised me a great deal because (something else that interests me about Robert Christgau is that) I hate him.

Taylor Parkes, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

jess thanks for all the links. now im getting curious about people's general feelings about music journalism/ review/ etc. At what point in your life did you become interested in music criticism and writing?? (not just jess but anyone) I had never given much thought to the idea that there were fans of critics, even after seeing Almost Famous. I've also never been a regular reader of the music press, so most of these big names (usual suspects) really dont mean much to me. Ive heard some of the names though. Currently i probably read an average of four short reviews per week. this mainly because the only newspapers I pick up are our local alt weeklies, which never have more than 4 apiece, and sometimes none. I only seem to read reviews that are of names i've already heard and am interested in. I guess im not in peak music consumption mode at this point in my life. in terms of major publications, ie rolling stone, spin, vibe, or whatever i have no interest whatsoever.

Also, we just had this pop music conference at the Experience Music Project here in seattle, and as I was trying to tell anthony the other day, something about the whole thing bugs me, but I can't quite put a finger on it. I thought it might be that I feel that some things should not be analyzed, but now that sentiment doesn't seem right at all. Maybe I feel that in the same way advertising has worked its way into more and more little cracks in society, (i remember feeling so offended the first time I saw an ad at the beginning of a movie!! nevermind that previews are ads) academics are focusing their magnifying glasses in places where they maybe don't belong and I'm getting fried like an ant on the sidewalk. I really don't know what's eating me about this. is it writing about music is like 'dancing about architecture' what are the roots of popular culture as a subject of serious academic concern??

well, yr thoughts are appreciated, i hope i do not offend, im just trying to decipher my emotions on this...

OK, take the Mazinquaye piece. It is very well written and should be admired as such. It has the effect of making me want to hear the Lp, and I did in fact dig it out. But in the end I'd much rather just hear the music than read all of the theorizing about it's relevance, etc. It is very much like how i feel about art books: I buy them because I want to have images of the artwork to look at at my leisure. I do not enjoy reading the accompanying essays, which are impenetrable jibberish most of the time. I don't want to be told what to think about a piece of art. I think I value art (incl. music) more as beauty and self-expression than as cultural expression, so all of the extra baggage is not necessary. i dunno

Ron, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ps where have I heard the phrase 'shit sandwich'???

Ron, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But in the end I'd much rather just hear the music than read all of the theorizing about it's relevance, etc.

that means yr a lot better off than some of us ron, for whom the writing about most music is more exciting than the finished product. call it raised expectations or general disillusionment or too much free time. ;)

i suppose i became "interested" in music crit when i realized that my interest in music was reaching heretofore bizarre and unprecidented levels. also when i realized that writing fiction (until then my main vehicle) was proving more and more unsatisfying. i had always read a lot of punk and indie zines - the usual suspects - and spin and rolling stone in the early to mid 90s. but i never thought much about the writing itself as anything more than news or a sort of hazy buying guide (arguably the two WORST things one can look for in music writing in retrospect). it wasn't until i started -reading- more about music (we dont want to talk about my early, botched attempts at writing about it) that the names of certain critics kept popping up and i began to follow/dig their old work up. it was then that i started viewing the writing not only as writing about music but writing on its own terms. which is arguably when it all went downhill for me. i'd put this at around 19 or 20.

for me - now, these days, although a pop critic/fans main perogative is to change his/her mind on a daily basis - music writing is at its best a precarious ledge between "talking about music" (in any form) and "thinking" (and yes, that can be as broadly defined as you wish.) a lot of my interest in writing about music and reading writing about music does stem from an overarching desire for "understanding" in whatever arena of life/culture. i still think most of the best non-fiction writing is being done via music.

jess, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

also, i think the review format is probably the worst vehicle for music writing, despite the fact that it's incredibly fluid as a "genre." at it's basest, crassest you're getting what some fule thinks you should or shouldn't spend yr sheckles on (aka the "george gossett syndrome".) at it's best - something like some of the things i've listed above, the ones which can count as "reviews"...bangs' "of pop and pies and fun" - it just does a lot of that "thinking" i was talking about: messy, vibrant, contradictory, sometimes foolish, sometimes insightful.

jess, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Does anyone have any idea where I can get a copy of the Lipstick Traces album? I've heard about half of it on mp3 but most of that stuff (like the extended version of "Road Runner") is just impossible to find.

Lester Bangs's piece on Astral Weeks has some absolutely beautiful passages, but the album itself has never done anything for me.

Justyn Dillingham, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ron: "This is Spinal Tap". It was a two-word review of their album "Shark Sandwich".

Nate Patrin, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

thank you!!! that was driving me crazy!! I wonder how many people got that reference. (not me, thats for sure) I have been watching the dvd's of guffman and best of show and guest/levy are always talking about 'i wonder if anyone got that reference' i think this is a strong point of their films - there is such a broad scale of cultural reference that there's probably something just a little too obscure for you, but will keep the just-a-bit-more-clever person in stitches too. there's a little something for everyone!

Ron, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Glenn Macdonald writes some stunning reviews. Especially the Life Without Buildings review (my fave EVER) and the Tugboat review (natch).

electric sound of jim, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Didn't Tanya include the phrase "shit sandwich" in her skewering of Nine Inch Nails?

Prude, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

electricsound, the life without buildings was GRATE. thank you

Ron, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I actually liked the Tugboat one more...I dunno, story reviews are hard to pull off. I've done them once or twice, but usually as jokey dismissals rather than detailed appreciations.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Can't even remember who submitted the world's shortest record review to Creem years ago. Anyway, it went like this: GTR -- SHT.

Who was this pundit? Who, for that matter, comprised GTR? Seems like Steve Howe was a likely culprit.

"Life is like a SHT sandwich. The bread you have, the less SHT you gotta eat."

briania, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

More!! MORE bread = less SHT!

briania, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyway, it went like this: GTR -- SHT. Who was this pundit?

J.D. Considine

dleone, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven months pass...
Any review that starts Total. Fucking. Godhead. can't be that bad. Specially when its about the prophet Spaceman J.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Kogan just penned one for the ages on James Chance:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0314/kogan.php

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Vinyl Reckoning.

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Amen, brother.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, "vr" is certainly "memorable."

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

jess i can't tell if yr. being ironic anymore.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

neither can he.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"sure."

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Xgau's ELP reviews were always good for a larf, but this one has stuck with me over the years:

"Brain Salad Surgery [Manticore, 1973]
Is this supposed to be a rebound because Pete Sinfield wrote the lyrics? Because Certified Classical Composer Alberto Ginastera--who gets royalties, after all--attests to their sensitivity on the jacket? Because the sound is so crystalline you can hear the gism as it drips off the microphone? C-"

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Keith Harris wrote an unfavorable review of Kid A for City Pages which garnered A LOT of reader responses:

http://www.citypages.com/databank/21/1037/article9072.asp

And I just love this Pitchfork review of the first Headcoats record. Very creative:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/t/thee-headcoats/headcoats-down.shtml

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, but the real Keith Harris classic is his summer singles roundup from last year: http://citypages.com/databank/23/1130/article10606.asp

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

most memorable first line of a review: Janet Maslin on Gummo:

"October is early, but not too early to acknowledge Harmony Korine's "Gummo" as the worst film of the year." (October 17, 1997)

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark Prindle's review of Dylan's comeback record began with poetic symmetry: Time Out of Mind? More like "Head out of Ass."

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"Shit sandwich."

Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

haha "Dylan's comeback record"

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

There is only one rock critic worth reading and that is Mark Prindle.

Evan (Evan), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

haha "Dylan's comeback record"

Yeah he didn't say that, actually, I just didn't want to say the album title twice.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

OK OK, two rock critics. Mark Prindle and whoever wrote this ridiculously awesome article ARRRGH! SHUT THE FUCK UP NME!! YOU'RE WRONG!!!. God I fucking love playlouder.

Everyone else sucks.

Evan (Evan), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

it's just such a rock criticky thing to call it, is all

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd forgotten how unbelievably good that meltzer piece is.

dan (dan), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I must confess I've never understood the allure of the In Utero review by Christgau. Probably helps to agree with him, cuz otherwise it comes off mondo presumptuous. I mean, calling Nevermind Blue Baby?

For some reason I find myself quoting Christgau's review of RHCP's Californication whenever discussing the band now: "New Age Sex Maniacs."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, and for some reason I always love Christgau's Subjects For Further Research. Anytime he explains he just doesn't bother with a band.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

the meltzer piece may be good writing but it's piss-poor thinking by an embittered old man

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

wizard's cap

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Gag... NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

That Kid A review is a PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT!! That guy is, like, the worst writer ever!!

Evan (Evan), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

since when does memorable = good?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:25 (twenty-two years ago)

he doesn't call Nevermind Bluebaby, he calls the projected follow-up to In Utero Bluebaby. also, the Kid A review kicks that horrid Smiths thing halfway to China

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

the allure of the In Utero review is that it imagined/took for granted (very well) a future reality that seemed very plausible at the time and now, sadly, aint. Christgau's ELP reviews are ALOT of fun.

no shit sherlock award - "the meltzer piece may be good writing but it's piss-poor thinking by an embittered old man

-- jess (dubplatestyl...), April 1st, 2003 11:27 AM."

One reason Bangs gets off so easy is that he didn't hang around to be so embittered and wrong (although he almost did - "rap is nothing or not enough" and that 81 p&j rant. considering most of his career was spent anticipating and then reveling in punk, things got ugly quick as soon as the revolution moved on, and they were just gonna get uglier for bangs. guarantee he'dve been the worst reactionary 'everything's bullshit man' polemicist reactionary (hell some people wish he'd been around to be just that) out there, occasionally dropping trou for yer sonic youths and the like, but increasingly more and more wrong and more and more playing to 'the legend'.

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

bangs might have just stopped writing about music, like the other two "noise boys" (god how I hate that phrase) already had, more or less, by the time he died. I dunno if his non-rock writing would have been any good, but I like some of the autobiographical stuff in "psychotic reactions" enough to wish he'd been able to write his novel.

I don't think he'd have turned on his past the way meltzer did, but then bangs was always a total romantic, completely obsessed by that whole sappy kerouacian vision of rock (and also tragically aware of how hopeless it was), and the whole point of meltzer's writing is that he quit believing in anything after 1966 and has been haunted by the demons of his idealism ever since.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(For the thousandth time: Roberts on The 3Rs, January 1990)

the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I found this on the interweb the other day and wanted to share it with you.

NEW ORDER 'TECHNIQUE' - from Melody Maker (1989?)
It begins. It thumps with glee, it swirls with lackadaisical intensity. "You're much too young to be a part of me, you're much too young to get a hold on me." And never have veterans sounded so brilliantly arrogant, masters so eager. Jesus. "Technique" is so effortlessly GREAT, so languidly heroic, so vibrant and thrilling despite itself, that one wishes one could weep. As the Austrian philosopher Rose Royce once commented: "I'm in love (and I love the feeling)." That's what this is like. I first hear it on a train from Waterloo and as the power stations and football pitches fly past, I want to get out and race the train to the sound of this perfect, perfect music. New Order know that the times throw a malfunctioning grey electric blanket over our emotion, but also that the slightest wriggle could be the one to turn it on again. They do this wriggle repeatedly, on every jauntily fatigued song, like they've done it many times before. Only on "Technique", they do it more skilfully and confidently than ever. This leads not to plushness or sumptuousness, but to a tumbling pumping river of their strengths, their weaknesses, their glib grandeur. Never have New Order sounded so little like people from Manchester, so much like gods.

It's clear by now that, though they seem able to clean up in any medium, there are two bas(s)ic New Order modes of transportation - the pop one which is like The Cure ripping off New Order, and the disco one which is like Shannon ripping off New Order. Both are severally represented here without any falling between two stools. Their feel is whisker-fine, their surges are princely. Albrecht's fragmented and victimised, but resilient, paper-mache poetry hauls itself up for what stings like one final summation of the shameful agonies of being male, of being prey to love and lust with equal sincerity/severity. Of acknowledging a bewildering sense of futility but still for some reason writing things down. When I say "male" I don't mean to imply that a "female" couldn't have written these simple yearnings and elegies, but that she wouldn't have started from the same angle. Undoubtedly "Technique" is inspired by a vulnerable, peculiarly boyish, somewhat petulant romanticism. from start to finish, from (heart on) sleeve (a cherub) to beaty monster inside.

"I can't find you, I can't find my peace of mind without you." As ever New Order temper Barney's pseudo-metaphysical couplets with a deceptive flippancy. (this is what always made them better and deeper than Joy Division.) "Fine Time " bubbles in, fascistically and facetiously making you dance. "Sophisticated lady, you got style and you got class, but most of all..." We strain to hear the punchline. We want to hear the punchline. We need to hear the punchline. "...Love technique." Ah, that'll be the title then. I am fully prepared to believe the lamb bleating at the end of this track is Christ applauding.

From then on it's irresistible, New Order marching through eight effervescing asphalt plains. There isn't a sub-GREAT moment to be found. When the majestic swooning "Run" "takes it down" you know that if the modernist ensemble come rushing back in with all swooshes blazing before the song fades, you'll start giggling at how marvellous all this is getting. They do. You do. you're sold. you're buying. You're coming out for spring. "All The Way" is gently awesome, precision guitars and rhythms levitating Albrecht's camp grandiloquence: "It takes years to find the nerve to be apart from what you've done, to find the truth inside yourself and not depend on anyone." There are many confessionals regarding strain, age, doubt, determination. "Love Less" and the probable next single "Round And Round" (a shimmering white funk whirlwind, if whirlwinds can shimmer, which I'm sure they can) build an apposite bridge between sentiment and dynamism. The latter is again evocative of travel, of flirting with life's hugeness. New Order are all about those minutes when you feel like a winning underdog and you knew all along you could do it. Of course, there's some miserablism. The beautiful (no other word) "Vanishing Point" and "Dream Attack" allow the lights up at the end of the party and, well, things are really quite manageable. They don't get morose. They get serene. Authentically. Before this there's a snarling "Guilty Partner", a bloodrush rather self-effacingly called "Mr Disco", and the aforementioned and utterly regal "Run", possibly their most poised and potent sculpure since "Thieves like Us". Play it loud and obsessive. Ultimately New Order are a subjective experience. A hundred lines here provoke productive self-examination and the hygiene of the sound encourages more anima projections than "La Boheme". I'm not being indulgent here (not by my standards) but you should be when you listen to it. And it swings, did I say it swings? "My life ain't no holiday, I've ben through the point of no return. I've seen what the man can do, I've seen all the hate of a woman too." Yes Bernard, we're all growing up. England's finest reluctant pop poet. I mean it. When he hits menopause there'll be a hell of a novel in this man. Meanwhile, the propulsion of the grooves is crisper than ice, more active than anarchy, swaggering on crutches. When New Order are this GREAT, this effortlessly, the rest might as well go home and peel onions or something. "Technique" is the state of the embers of the Eighties, mystique and mistakes merging, kissed by the ruby lips of God. "Technique" is a rare and ravishing triumph.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoops I forgot to mention the most important bit - it's by Chris Roberts. I used to cut out reviews like that and pin them on my bedroom wall.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 09:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Nipper: fab synchronicity: I was creating my new thread while you were pasting that!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

that's amazing stuff, I wish I could write like that. ("Christ applauding" = best thing I have ever read in a record review)

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris Roberts was fantastic. That's what I miss, reading reviews like this.

Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Never have New Order sounded so little like people from Manchester, so much like gods.

ugh! that's a little much, isn't it?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)


Nicole - then you must hurry to Pegasus Realizes They're Playing His Tune

the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

ugh! that's a little much, isn't it?

That's exactly the point, though. Give me over the top enthusiasm over jaded hipster cynicism any day.

Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

no shit sherlock award, lifetime achievement division:

One reason Bangs gets off so easy is that he didn't hang around to be so embittered and wrong (although he almost did - "rap is nothing or not enough" and that 81 p&j rant. considering most of his career was spent anticipating and then reveling in punk, things got ugly quick as soon as the revolution moved on, and they were just gonna get uglier for bangs. guarantee he'dve been the worst reactionary 'everything's bullshit man' polemicist reactionary (hell some people wish he'd been around to be just that) out there, occasionally dropping trou for yer sonic youths and the like, but increasingly more and more wrong and more and more playing to 'the legend'.

was anyone even talking about bangs?

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I am in utter and full agreement with the Good Mr. Roberts' review. Right down to the tone and comparisons. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm with Jess in loving Penman's Tricky piece from The Wire - it's by far the most nourishing piece of writing I have ever encountered. However, it's bigging up my boys, I know, but I adore both these pieces, too.

Kodwo Eshun On Nerd
www.hyperdub.com/softwar/nerd.cfm

Mark De'Rozario on Destiny's Child & Missy Elliot
www.hyperdub.com/softwar/funky.cfm

Dave Stelfox, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, that eshun piece is excellent: it made me buy the NERD album on important, something i kind of wish i hadn't done.

anyway, bangs would have a perfectly realized home at the wire, 2003-division, pissing about with david keenan on "squares" and climbing deeper inside his own asshole annotating lathe cut japnoise 10". it'd be a basquiat-warhol relationship!

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Too bad I can't link to it, and I won't quote it cuz you really need the whole thing, but the 'Wire' review of 'Ill Communication' from the 'Wire' (1994, might be April) is still the single most excruciatingly pants-shittingly funny thing I've ever read. (Put it this way, it praised the record in a way that would make Beastie Boys fans put paper bags over their heads and disown the group) I don't want to say who wrote it because it'll look like a vendetta on the guy plus I bet everybody here has written stuff they're embarassed about later, but this one, wow! (The one with D Byrne on the cover if you're cleaning out your attic. That article's pretty good too. "The most striking thing about Byrne is not how conventional his early life was, but how exotic he became!")

dave q, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe this is another thread but how MEAN should critics be allowed to get before somebody throws a bucket of water on them? I'm thinking G Marcus on Spin Doctors, Xgau on Stone Temple Pilots ("the whole band should catch AIDS and die"), stuff like that

dave q, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

critics should only be overly mean when they have the writing abilities to pull it off

critics should only be anything but overtly mean when they have the writing abilities to pull it off

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

The unsung founder of modern rock crit (certainly the Brit variety) was a gurl!

URIAH HEEP, 'URIAH HEEP'

If this group makes it I'll have to commit suicide. From the first note you know you don't want to hear any more. Uriah is watered down, tenth-rate Jethro Tull, only even more boring and inane. UH is composed of five members: vocals, organ, guitar, bass, and drums. They fail to create a distinctive sound tonally; the other factor in their uninteresting style is that everything they play is based on repetitive chord riffs.

According to the enclosed promo information, Uriah Heep spent the past year in the studio, rehearsing and writing songs. No doubt their lack of performing experience contributed to the quality of the record; if they had played live in clubs they would have been thrown off the stage and we'd have been saved the waste of time, money, and vinyl.

MELISSA MILLS ('Rolling Stone', 197?)

dave q, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

that sounds like an early pitchfork review!

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Funniest review of a review is that stupid one that goes 'the Wire review from the Wire', by dave q mccartney

dave q, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

...how MEAN should critics be allowed to get before somebody throws a bucket of water on them?

the bloody obv. answer: 't depends on the critic, pretty often. i'd say, frinstance, the stud brothers in melody maker used to be v.V.V.mean every now & again, but it mostly made for highly enjoyable reading - well yes, rather frequently i tended to agree with their choice of the targets too...

then again, i.p'nman, whose writing i certainly admire, sometimes - s'prise, s'prise? - can't be arsed to back up his "meanness" (if it's to be called that), or so it's seemed occasionally over the few past years

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Glenn McDonald on Marillion:

http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0293.html

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Teller of Penn & Teller wrote a great review of Elvis Costello's "Juliet Letters". The review was so compelling, building the Brodsky collab to be the most haunted, haunting and necessary piece of music ever. So much so that it made me buy the album, which was mediocre. But boy, what a fantastic review. It used to be on their website, but it doesn't look like it's around anymore. What a shame.

Fivvy (Fivvy), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
Revive!

This is the greatest goddamn review I've read in quite some time.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 10 September 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

four weeks pass...
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0440/allred.php

revive, to mention that.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 8 October 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

How can you say the Faust/Dalek bullshit review is great? Useless, obtuse wankery, it is.

stroming, Friday, 8 October 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

the second paragraph has rhymes and is very pretty!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 8 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
To my mind, music journos are the scum of the Earth. Case in point: About twenty years ago the Norwegian mag "beat" (luckily defunct) ran a review of former Chicago member Peter Cetera's debut single that read something like this: "Boring, trite, formulaic. Dear Peter Cetera, couldn't you please do like your former bandmate, Terry Kath, and end put misery?" For your information, Terry Kath died as a result of a self-inflicted gunshot to the head.
This is funny?
Also, the infamous Caroline Coon wrote on the first Eurythmics album: "Would that they die painlessly in a plane crash."
Oh, and I'm STILL waiting for Melissa Mills to turn her promise into action....

Eilert Ottem, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Ayr Unit 'The Moving Finger Writes And Having Writ Moves On'

And the other two tracks are entitled 'Nor All Thy Piety Or Wit Can Lure It Back To Cancel Half A Line' and, yes you've guessed it, 'Nor All Thy Tears Wash Out A Word Of It'. So the question isn't 'does this suck?' It's 'how much'? Well, that's hard to say because this record sucks so much that eventually it prolapses space and enters a reverse-universe where suck rules and rules suck and people walk around on their hands with their underpants on their heads and like the taste of Brussels sprouts and think that Chris Evans isn't a total dick. You dig? It's basically one note that gets ever so gradually louder and more distorted until, eventually, your head just like fucking EXPLODES and your fucking BRAINS shoot out of your EARS! Oh my giddy aunt, it's actually getting louder! AAAAAAAARGH! I'VE STILL GOT IT ON AS I TYPE AND THE PAIN IS ALMOST UNBEARABLE! CAN YOU HEAR ME!? OH SWEET JESUS, IS THAT BLOOD ON THE KEYBOARD! UH! ONE OF MY EYEBALLS HAS POPPED OUT! OH FUCK! THERE GOES THE OTHER ONE! THIS IS BRILLIANT! OH, HANG ON, I THINK IT'S GETTING QUIETER AGAIN! YES, sorry, yes, there it goes. Wow! It's like Mogwai at 2rpm! It's awesome, fantastic, brilliant and I never, ever want to hear it ever again. Ever. Oh, go on then, just one more time... hang on, here it comes... AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
-Steven Wells, NME c.2000

(I went and bought it after reading that, the review is OTM)

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 16 February 2006 10:40 (twenty years ago)

an oldie but goodie:

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/pavement/albums/album/238394/rid/5943554/

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

What am I missing in that Pavement review?

dan. (dan.), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:11 (twenty years ago)

maybe it's just a personal preference, as I bought the record and became a HUGE fan because of this review and stuff

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:13 (twenty years ago)

"of Pavement and stuff"

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

is it wrong to love a review where the reviewer's opinion is the polar opposite of yours?

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:19 (twenty years ago)

of course not

dan. (dan.), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Of course not! This is one of my favorite reviews ever!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

i agree with this one, it sums up everything i felt about its subject. it also finds its author at his v. best (which is really saying something, and i don't just say that b/c i used to work for him):

http://citypaper.com/music/recordreview.asp?id=7614

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Why would reading that Rolling Stone review of Wowee Zowee make you want to buy the album? It's not like he totally panned it; he gave it a mere two-and-a-half stars.

Ahhhhh good old reliable Rolling Stone magazine: where every single album gets either two-and-a-half, three, or three-and-a-half stars (unless it's a reissue in which case it gets five stars no matter what).

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

to 18-year old me it read like a pan of a band i knew nothing about, and the things he called deficiencies stood out as plusses to me

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

i'll "fifth" or whatever the greatness of Mr. Prindle and Mr. McDonald, for totally different reasons

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Swells is such a funny man (This IS Swells, right?):

Hmm. Interesting. The opening track, "The Eye", consists of some vaguely spooky noises over which British foreign secretary Robin "Shagger" Cook rambles on about the historic opening of the Gaza Strip border. Oh, hang on. I've left the radio on. That's better. So, just some vaguely spooky noises, then. How interesting. No, really. How FUCKING interesting.

Moving rapidly along, "Square Rave" doesn't so much "bang" as sort of rattle around like an insecticide-overdosed late-summer wasp trapped in a large paper lampshade. Far out! "Dedicated Loop" is the sort of sucky ambient soundtrack that sucky film students choose for their sucky time-lapse Warhol pastiches. Hilarious! "Tomorrow World" is Enya gone drum'n'bass. Groovy! "Cool Veil" is ten seconds of aimless muso-masturbation. How witty! "Schizm Track #1" is like "The Rockafeller Skank" heard from the bottom of a 200ft-deep shit-filled pit. Great! Oh sweet Jesus! Do we have to go on!?

Look, synthesisers, sequencers, samplers and drum machines are fab, gear and groovy. Hey, the Prodge, Atari Teenage Riot and Fatboy Slim swear by them! But what if this new tecknologie were ever to fall into the wrong hands? What if it were used to produce evil music? Like, music with no balls, soul, energy, aggression, passion, tune, danceable beats or apparent function? You know, the sort of pointless, irritating, self-indulgent, avant-garde-a-fucking-clue bollocks that a certain sort of especially annoying student pretends to be "into" in order to look "cool" shortly before he (and it's nearly always a he) gets a job in vivisection, Conservative politics or the music press? What, in other words, if these wonderful, shiny, new instruments were used to make art-wank jazzzzzzzzzzzz?

Oh, wait! This is a pisstake, right? I'll bet this 'Tom Jenkinson' doesn't exist at all, does he? I bet it's those wacky blokes from The Fast Show who've slung all the ropy cack they recorded for their hilarious Jazz Club sketches onto a CD! Ha! You wags! You really had me going there! For a minute.

I will kill anybody who plays any track off this CD in any building where I am present. You have been warned.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:32 (twenty years ago)

where did that run?

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:35 (twenty years ago)

another OTM review was Ed Howard's take on Tortoise's "It's All Around You" from Grooves Magazine, but I don't think that's online anywhere.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:39 (twenty years ago)

x-post

I found it in the NME's archives. ILM hates on the NME waaayyyy too much. Any magazine that would print a review that funny is OK in my book!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:40 (twenty years ago)

even though i was 14 at the time & didnt know xgau from my own ass i have never forgotten xgau referring to the first lyricist lounge as "secretly ambient"

,,, Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

lol @ this headline

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/red-hot-chili-peppers-im-with-you-is-a-buffet-of-preposterous-noise/2011/08/26/gIQAlumynJ_story.html

didn't bother reading the review

۩ (crüt), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

Can think of a couple. JD Considine review Nelson's "Because We Can:" Still, we would prefer if you didn't. Considine again on Pink Floyd's "Delicate Sound of Thunder Live:" Further proof you can't listen to a light show. Or something close to those.

Also, my friend Mark once reviewing a proggy band with the pithy: "Kind of like Yes, but no."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

xp - i do not want to think about Anthony Keidis in connection with anything I like to put in my mouth.

sarahel, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:37 (fourteen years ago)


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